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June 2, 2025 48 mins

THE WAR ROOM WITH STEPHEN K. BANNON, JUNE 2ND, 2025

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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Significant developments this morning in Ukraine's efforts to hit back
against Russian aggression. Ukraine launched a massive drone attack deep
inside Russian territory. The New York Times calls it a
coordinated operation that targeted sites from eastern Siberia to Russia's

(00:26):
western border. A source in ukraine security service tells NBC
News that more than forty Russian bomber planes were targeted
in an operation nearly three thousand miles away from Ukraine.
The mission, code named Spiderweb, is estimated to have cost
Russia more than two billion dollars worth of damage to

(00:49):
its plane two billion. The attack was planned over the
course of the past year and a half and involved
a meticulous method of first smuggling the dry owns deep
into Russia and then disguising them so they could be
activated remotely. Sounds like a movie. NBC News cannot independently

(01:09):
verify the claims made by the Ukrainian source. However, Russia's
Defense ministry confirmed the attacks.

Speaker 2 (01:21):
He's right there, he's not.

Speaker 3 (01:49):
Everybody get back.

Speaker 2 (01:50):
Everybody get back, everybody get He's right there.

Speaker 4 (02:00):
We're just.

Speaker 5 (02:07):
This guy.

Speaker 6 (02:09):
First, as Savary is behind bars or Solomon rather is
behind bars right now on ten million dollars Bailey as
a courte as you said, one point thirty the time.
They're in Colorado, so we'll be looking forward to see
what happens there. We know that there are multiple felony
charges that he has booked on, including murder charges, though
we have not learned from officials of any of these
victims dying, so we're waiting to hear what that means

(02:32):
for those charges. As John's described and you just heard
from witnesses there, it was certainly a chaotic scene as
these you know, this is a weekly event that happens
with this group of people. They go they to support
the hostages that are held in Gaza by Hamas and
this person, Solomon, according to police, showed up with his

(02:52):
makeshift flamethrower with Molotov cocktails. Witnesses describe how he was
just dousing people the end trying you know, people were
running to their aid, trying to basically put out the
flames with water bottles.

Speaker 7 (03:05):
Were told four.

Speaker 6 (03:07):
Women, four men injured in this, all brought to hospitals
too or actually had to be air flighted. As John mentioned,
one of those victims a Holocaust survivor, We've.

Speaker 8 (03:16):
Now seen the president this administration come out and say
that they are very frustrated that China is not really
following the commitments that it agreed to after US and
Chinese officials met in Geneva last month. Now, we did
hear many of his different advisors talk about this as well.
What I'm hearing also behind the scenes is that they
are actively trying to set up a direct call between

(03:39):
President Donald Trump and Chinese President she Shin. Paying his
advisors reiterated that this weekend, take a listen.

Speaker 6 (03:47):
Well, we will see what the consequences are.

Speaker 7 (03:50):
I'm confident that when President Trump and party Chairman she
have a call that this will be ironed out.

Speaker 5 (03:57):
Donald Trump and President she our president understands what to do.

Speaker 3 (04:02):
He's going to go work it out.

Speaker 7 (04:03):
By President Trump, we expect is going to have a
wonderful conversation about the trade negotiations this week with President Sheet.
But the bottom line is that we've got to be
ready in case things don't happen the way we want,
because if we have canons but not cannonballs, then we
can't fight a war.

Speaker 8 (04:22):
So a few things to take note of all of that, Kate.
One is that The President has been saying for months
now that he believed that he could help settle this
by talking to Shixhin Pan, but they have been unable
to get the Chinese leader on the phone thus far.
So they are moving toward actually having this happen this week,
and really, for my conversations with Trump administration officials, they

(04:42):
do believe a call between the top two leaders of
both countries is necessary to kind of unlock where they
are right now, this status of not really sure how
to move forward, and there's other moves. I am told
that they can take on China if they do not
respond in turn. I was also told that they are
not expecting to reimpose the tariff figure on China, that

(05:05):
there's other tools at their disposal. But this is really
going to be a huge week for those talks with Beijing.

Speaker 9 (05:12):
President Trump said that Ukraine doesn't have good cards. Well,
Russia's much bigger and has a lot more people. I
get that, But the world has a lot of cards
against Russia, and one of those cards that we have
is about to be played in the United States Center

(05:32):
in America. You have more than one person at the
card table. We have three branches of government, and the
House and the Senate are poised to act. What would
change our mind if Russia came to the table agreed
to cease fire.

Speaker 10 (06:02):
Sure, speaking to you from Warsaw, Poland, where there was frankly,

(06:22):
almost a redux of the election Trump Biden or Trump Harris,
in the sense that you had a highly international, progressive,
multi lingual, on media savvy candidate on one side and a

(06:42):
candidate who represents the Poles who feel that they've been
left out of the economic miracle of modern Poland and
are reacting against the capital. That is the presidential election
that happened in Poland yesterday with Carol Nebrotsky, the Conservative winning.
In many ways, the Trump administration was directly involved in

(07:05):
this election in the sense that they sent Cabinet member
Christy Nolm, the Secretary for Homeland Security, here last week
the headline a SEAPAC conference in Warsaw to send the
message that President Trump is with krol Nevrotsky, who is
the victor. So it's very much a political win. But
the important I think takeaway for President elect Novrotsky of

(07:29):
Poland is whether he can get into the ear of
the top Trump foreign policy team in a way that
his predecessors have not been able to because the Poles
simply have not been at the table when it comes
to negotiations between Ukraine and Russia. Despite being holding the
presidency of the European Council. Kerl Nevrotsky is one. It's

(07:53):
a political win also for the Trump administration. Ken Nevrotsky
convert that into closer ties with the top Trump team.

Speaker 11 (08:00):
We shall see.

Speaker 3 (08:54):
This is the climal scream of a dying regime.

Speaker 12 (08:59):
Prayer enemies, because we're going to medieval on these people.

Speaker 3 (09:04):
Here's not got a free shot. All these networks lying
about the people. The people have had a belly full
of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I
know you tried to do everything in the world to
stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's
going to happen.

Speaker 7 (09:15):
And where do people like that go to share the
big line?

Speaker 13 (09:19):
Mega media?

Speaker 12 (09:20):
I wish in my soul, I wish that any of
these people had a conscience. Ask yourself, what is my
task and what is my purpose?

Speaker 14 (09:30):
If that answer is to save my country, this country
will be saved.

Speaker 13 (09:36):
Or use your host, Stephen K.

Speaker 1 (09:39):
Bans.

Speaker 12 (09:45):
It's Monday, two June in the over Lord twenty twenty
five and the world is on the cuss President trumpers
we remember talking about the three verticals. Number one to
use all his efforts to stop the kinetic part of
the Third World War which we are in the beginning of.

(10:07):
Number two was to seal the border and deport at
least thirteen million illegal alien invaders came here in Biden's watch.
Number three was the sort of entire mess of the
commercial relationships of the United States and the world. Bring
manufacturing jobs back, get tariff revenue, start to cut the budget,
figure out how to finance this entire mess, the entire

(10:29):
economic equation. And Jilli and Tet the other day kind
of picking up on one of the themes of the
War room, that this is what we call geoeconomic. It's
a convergence of national security, geopolitics, trade and finance in
a new, more sophisticated way looking at the world. Folks,

(10:52):
we are not closer this weekend and this morning to
achieving the first in central priority of President Trump. I
understand the ceiling the border and deporting people is absolutely central.
He promised that, but the connecting part of the Third
World War continues on it will escalate. And once you

(11:14):
get escalation a situation like this, particularly on the Eurasian
land mass, as two major conflicts in the twentieth century,
World War One and World War Two, they will turn
into wars of annihilation. Okay, they do in vengeance, and
we are heading to a very dark place, and we're

(11:34):
heading to a very dark place very quickly. A massive
come from behind victory in Poland for the MAGA forces.
Want to give a hat tip to Matt schlap Jack, Pasobic, Mobanon,
everybody associated with SEAPAC that went over there and I
think provided the necessary energy to push that over the top,

(11:56):
or at least to show people that the world is
watching massive victory in Poland. I would love to see
that in Korea because tonight we're gonna have the Korean
team on. They started voting early voting aarady in Korea tomorrow,
and if Korea falls, I don't think she's gonna have
a lot to say. And God blessed Scott Vessant and
Hassett and Lutnik and all this. I'm not so sure

(12:20):
she's gonna have a lot to say later in the
week about about a trade dealer or anything else.

Speaker 3 (12:25):
Because he's gonna say, hey.

Speaker 12 (12:26):
My political warfare, I put a major asset in my pocket,
and now I have a knife. That's right Thererea has
always been coming off the original Landma, I have a
knife at the heart of Japan and Taiwan.

Speaker 3 (12:39):
What do you got?

Speaker 12 (12:41):
As these rehearsals for an invasion continue on, but most
important and most disturbing is what happened in Ukraine. Remember,
we've never questioned the valor or the toughness of the
Ukrainian military or armed forces.

Speaker 3 (12:57):
We have.

Speaker 12 (12:58):
We have been against this war from the beginning, and
we told you we were going to get there. Folks,
You've got to understand something in the entire history of
the United States and the Soviet Union about strategic forces
in the Cold War, the triad intercontinental ballistic missiles, the
underwater ballistic missile submarines, the boomers in the third leg

(13:21):
of the third leg of the triad, strategic bombers. The
United States never laid a glove on the Soviet Union ever.
For the strategic bombers do Ukraine. I think of one
hundred and forty strategic bombers, Ukraine took out forty one.

Speaker 3 (13:40):
It's not just the two baion dollars cost. It is
the psychological shock.

Speaker 12 (13:45):
That is the moral equivalent or the military equivalent of
putting a carrier battlegroup at the bottom of the sea
in the Taiwan Straits or the South China Sea in
some sort of kinetic conflict against the Chinese Communist Party.
That's the psychological damage. That was a big hit. One
of two things. The White House said they didn't know

(14:05):
about it, were giving no heads up. That's a problem.
You see Lindsay Graham over there stirring things up, saying
the House and the Senate got a lot to say
about this. The White House saying they didn't know about it.
That's a massive problem. An even bigger problem is and
this is consistent with my discussions over the weekend with

(14:27):
the IC community.

Speaker 3 (14:29):
They believe it's impossible.

Speaker 12 (14:31):
It goes back to that New York Times article from
twenty four It's impossible for Ukraine to have worked eighteen
months and not have American intelligence inextricably linked for target acquisition,
for fire control solutions, for all of it on these
drones with our artificial intelligence. Short commercial break, we're going

(14:52):
get into all of it next in the war room.

Speaker 4 (14:57):
In America US from Poland, where a conservative challenger has
won the presidential vote runoff after the Knife Edge election.
Official results released earlier on Monday showed Carol Navrotsky the
winner with fifty point nine percent of the vote. His rival,
Warsaw's liberal mayor Rafael Tchaskovsky, earned forty nine point one percent,

(15:21):
but earlier exit polls were neck and neck, and both
candidates declared victory at different points during the night. The
post of president in Poland is largely ceremonial, but Navrotsky's
victory now sets them up for.

Speaker 12 (15:34):
A shoga the German. The Germans not taking this well, Germany.
Mertz is here on Thursday. They just set that up
over the weekend. It came after TASS, the official Russian
news agency, and you got to take tasks, you know,
with a big Russian grain of wheat, because it's pure propaganda. However,

(15:58):
they're the ones that lead that the Russian military was
targeting Berlin this assault. Jack Bisobic, I'm gonna get to
the Polish situation a second, but given your intelligence, you're
a naval intelligence officer, it was absolutely stunning. First off,
had tip to the Ukrainians. Never nothing's ever been done
like this before, folks, three thousand miles inland. This makes

(16:21):
the hamas and remember we said hamas for eighteen months.
The Intel services had to know about that, the musclim borlhood, training, financing,
educating logistics on that attack on October seventh.

Speaker 3 (16:33):
This is to the tenth power of that.

Speaker 12 (16:37):
Major first time ever strategic bombing forces have been investrated.
This is worse than catching MacArthur with the fighter planes,
not the bombers. The fighter planes tip to tip in
Manila in nineteen on December seventh, nineteen forty one, December
seventh and eighth Jack two things, and neither one of

(16:58):
them were good. Because this is a strike into Russia,
to the strategic forces, this is a major act of war.
So one of two things, either, which the New York
Time has been reporting now for over a year, with
that great report they did back in twenty four with
the intel our intel community inextricably linked with THEIRS, with

(17:19):
target acquisition, with fire control solutions, with artificial intelligence, all
of it, that planned this thing out for eighteen months.

Speaker 3 (17:26):
There's no way the Ukrainians did this on their own.

Speaker 12 (17:29):
However, the other alternative, which the White House said, hey,
we just found out about it. That's almost worse because
if I'm Bbe, I'm sitting there going hey, if Zelenski
can do it, Hey, line them up, let's let's go.
Next stop Persia. Jack Bosobek put it in, put it
in perspective for.

Speaker 5 (17:45):
Us, Well, Steve, what we saw here, this massive drone
swarm attack in Russia. Of course, it remains to be
seen exactly what the battle damage assessment is. I know
the Ukrainian forces and their intelligent and services have been
seating this, these numbers and this narrative throughout Western media,
and that's been percolating in that system. The Russians, of course, understandably,

(18:08):
are trying to downplay this and act as if it's
but they have Jack.

Speaker 3 (18:12):
They haven't. They haven't Jack, Jack Jack. They haven't totally
denied it, And some footage is out there. These guys they're.

Speaker 5 (18:21):
Saying that the damage is not as they're saying that
the damage is negligible and that many of the planes
are in fact still usable.

Speaker 13 (18:29):
So again damage as.

Speaker 12 (18:31):
If you if you took out one plane, if you
took out one Jack, if you took out one plane,
this is an act of war.

Speaker 3 (18:38):
Deep if the United States is involved here in your Russia.

Speaker 12 (18:42):
And by the way, the Russians hit back with a
drone strike last night, but nowhere near with the power.

Speaker 3 (18:47):
And they've said, hey, wait, we're going to be all
over this.

Speaker 12 (18:50):
If you're sitting in Moscow, that this is as bold
an act of war that's ever happened between the United
States and Russia since we were allies and World War
Two and then had kind of a breakup afterwards.

Speaker 4 (19:02):
Sir.

Speaker 5 (19:04):
The question now is when this act was taking place.
These drones are set, so they're telling us that they
were put in place eighteen months ago. So eighteen months
ago is in the beginning of or the midst of
what I guess you could call the Auto pen administration.
So who was it on the American side that either
gave the green light to this or provided the initial

(19:27):
intelligence targeting? And is it possible then that these targets
were even guided by American targeteers at some point. We
know about this base Vizboten, Germany, the US Army garrison
where they have and New York Times has reported this, Steve,
as you just said, they have this gymnasium that's set up,
and you've got the Ukrainian officials right there with NATO forces,

(19:51):
which means, guess what us, the Americans sitting right there
providing targeting, was a target package at any point given
to the Ukrainians from Americans for this And as such,
do the Russians take that as an act of war
from the United.

Speaker 13 (20:08):
States on Russia proper?

Speaker 5 (20:11):
Because this idea of a proxy war, it's starting to
get a little bit blurry along these lines. And we
already saw the German Steve What were they all saying
last week? The long range strikes into Russia? The long
range strikes into Russia. Now boom, we have what's interesting,
a deep strike into Russia. But it is not from
long range missiles. It's from these short range drones. And
by the way, there's some indication that the operators of

(20:35):
these drones might also have been more locally, locally placed
than all the way back in Ukraine or even in Germany,
so they could in fact have target to your cells
of Ukrainian forces that are inside Russia operating right now.
So what we need to understand is twofold number one,
what information did the intelligence community have about this at

(20:56):
any point? And was the President of the United States
Donald Trump brief on this, and if he was not
briefed on this or Secretary of Ratcliffe excuse me, direct
CIA Director Ratcliffe or d n I Gabbertt, then we
got a problem. We got a really really big problem
with our intelligence community, the same way that we did
when President Trump is an administration the first time this
problem to Our forces are vulnerable to this as well.

Speaker 3 (21:20):
Hang on exactly we're going to do that a second?
Hang on, Boone Cutler is going to join us.

Speaker 12 (21:24):
I get Ezra Cohen maybe later Ben Harnwoh, here's my problem. Well,
I've got many problems on this. This is why you
have to I don't see any investigation going with the
deep state. Ratcliffe actually said a couple of weeks ago
there's going to be no political involvement in the CIA.
The thousand agents are just guys retiring. He's not going

(21:44):
to fill the billets. There has to be Taulci, gabbartt
and Ratcliffe should be in the Oval office this morning,
like right now, and the question should be yo, what
happened here? Did you guys know anything about it? And
if you didn't know anything about it, there's got to
be a major investigation like, immediately, we've got to stop
playing foot seat with the deep state. We had ax
Jones on last week, Prosobic, You've been talking about this NonStop.

(22:08):
They have an apparatus inside this government. It's going to
do what they want. And so two things, one or
two things, both of them off of either number one,
they worked with the Ukrainians to get this done, which
is basically impossible if that didn't happen. However, the other
one is you're telling me that our intelligence service didn't
know about this, that the White House is totally caught blind.

(22:30):
If I'm bb I'm out there today saying hey, IDF,
get the bombers, let's go, let's roll right. If they're
blind to that, pasobic. Both of these are terrible. And
then the third Zelensky didn't give the President of the
United States a heads up to say we're going to
do a deep strike into strategic forces of Russia, which
is going up the escalatory ladder as quickly as you can.

(22:53):
On the day before you're meeting at Turkey, and Ben
Harnware informs me the meeting took thirty minutes and this
big media you're going to have in Turkey a day
thirty minutes and then they punched out because there's nothing
to talk about. This war is expanding and this war
is getting tougher, and President Trump's number one priority was

(23:13):
to de escalate that get Russian rob Prochemont since post
So you and I talked with this since May seventh, eighth,
and ninth, since she went to that commemoration event for
the eightieth Commemoration of Victory in Europe day from the
Russian angle, and for those three days there was she.

Speaker 3 (23:33):
The Chinese have walked away from.

Speaker 12 (23:35):
The negotiating table on trade, and the Russians are trying
to escalate everything with bombing strikes, and now you've got
Zelensky going back and not give the White House a
heads up. We're their biggest sponsor. Didn't give us a
heads up, the White House saying we didn't know anything
about it. We saw it when it went up on
Drudge mac Daddy. How do you square these things?

Speaker 5 (23:54):
Brother, Well, Steve, it's very clear the CCP is mueling
so much of this chaos and so much of this instability. Remember,
the CCP is a major arms supplier right behind Russia
and right along with Iran, and there drones They're enjoying
the instability just as much as anyone else, because it's

(24:16):
the status quo that is being destabilized right now. And
so their rise, the rise that they want of bricks,
the multi lateral world unipolarity being completely ended in the
United States, which by the way, it already has. So
they want the instability to rise to put Trump in

(24:38):
a situation where he's got to deal with all of
these things rather than deal squarely with them. And so Zelenski,
what's he doing? This is meant to derail the peace negotiations,
the peace process. And look, Steve, I think it's time
that we all start to look very seriously on this.
This has to be a deal between the US and Russia.

(24:59):
It simply has has to be done that way. You're
not going to get peace any other way. They want
the big deal. Everything has been rejected by both sides.

Speaker 12 (25:07):
And if we did hang on, if we didn't know it, Okay,
I got that, Okay, good, I like that you, then
then the White House has to condemn this immediately and
pull all support and till Lindsey Graham come home.

Speaker 3 (25:20):
Are We're gonna put you under a restaurant? You come home?
You're stern it up.

Speaker 12 (25:23):
Lindsey Graham's over there saying, hey, forget Trump, I got
the house in the Senate.

Speaker 3 (25:27):
We're gonna we're gonna pass them. You see something.

Speaker 12 (25:29):
A couple of days, remember that he's stern it up
over there, he's telling me the guy backing. If they
did not give us a heads up on this all
full stop and no minerals deal, walk away from all
of it, they're irresponsible and they're dragging us into a
kinetic third World war. As we said us we're getting
dragged in now or the deep State is driving us

(25:50):
in there.

Speaker 3 (25:51):
Either of these are not good.

Speaker 12 (25:53):
Tulca Gabbert's got to let us know did anyone in
an intel at all have anything to do with this?
Did anybody have a heads up that anybody? And if not,
who the hell's running the Ukraine desk? Who's running the
Russia desk? Same thing with Ratcliffe. This is why Cash
and Bongino and Pam Bondi. You got to clear out

(26:13):
the deep state. This is a ticking time bomb. And
you see what they're gonna get us into because now
we're now inexorably we're being drawn into this.

Speaker 3 (26:25):
If we didn't know about it.

Speaker 12 (26:26):
The President, to me has got to condemn it and
got to say we're not gonna give it any more
support because these people cannot be trusted. You're supposed to
be in Turkey today talking peace, not three thousand miles
into Russia blowing up their strategic bombers.

Speaker 3 (26:40):
Short break.

Speaker 13 (26:59):
Here's your Stephen k Ba.

Speaker 12 (27:04):
You don't think Russia Kate and all the phone and
crap they came up with in those early days in
the nullification project they got rid of, They got rid
of General Flynn, all of that to make sure we
can never have any type of strategic dialogue with the Russians.
You're seeing this is their payoff right now with the
deep state Boone. Cutler joins us. Boone, you were the
co author and fifth generation warfare with the general with

(27:26):
General Flynn. What's your take on this. President Trump's efforts
have been NonStop to get ready to lay their guns down,
and from the Ukraine to to Israel to the Red Seat,
get them all lay of their guns down, Calm things
down in the Straits of Taiwan. Everybody put their guns
down and let's have peace and let's have prosperity. Drive

(27:49):
peace is that working out, Boone.

Speaker 14 (27:52):
I think we're learning that the art of the deal
in business is a little bit different than the art
of the deal in geopolitics. It's not working out. I
don't think anybody's listening. I don't think he's getting the
support that he needs. I don't think the decisions being
made are being based upon, you know, the actual situations
that are happening around the world right now. I think
it's a little bit too idealistic based upon other.

Speaker 3 (28:13):
Frames of reference.

Speaker 14 (28:14):
And I think we need to get very, very oriented
to our operational environment right now because things are ready
to kick off. Look at Taiwan, look at Ukraine, Russia.

Speaker 7 (28:23):
A Ran.

Speaker 14 (28:24):
I mean, everybody's amplifying, they're not calming down.

Speaker 12 (28:30):
We have flash points all over Let's let's we'll come
back to the United States internally, because there's flash points
all over here also, but throughout the world. Given President
Trump's great efforts, and given what happened in the Middle
East and all of his efforts in the Middle East,
this is why it's so outrageous what the Ukrainians did.
And I'm not commenting on their the brilliants, the valor,

(28:54):
the audacity, all of it, but geopolitically, where we stand today,
this is going up the This is scampering up the
escalatory ladder at the exact moment President Trump wants to
get everybody off the escalatory ladder.

Speaker 3 (29:09):
Your thoughts about these flashpoints, sir.

Speaker 14 (29:12):
I think the flashpoints are many, and I don't think
they've been this heightened in quite some time. I mean,
we're looking at you know, we're looking at situations in
nuclear in Russia. We're looking to the situations that are
nuclear with Iran. We're looking at the expansion of the
CCP going into Taiwan. In order to do that, they
need to neutralize our deterrent threat with nukes. I think

(29:35):
that this game is getting escalated very very quickly, with
the drones, with the AI, with the cyber I think
everything is escalating very very quickly, and I'm not exactly
sure how things are going to calm down.

Speaker 3 (29:46):
And I'll put this out there.

Speaker 14 (29:48):
I do believe, in my heart of hearts, if Putin
thinks he's going to lose and he's going to die,
I think he's going to start hitting other countries inside
of NATO, not just not just Ukraine, and then we're
going to have an escalation yet again, which was precipitated
by what just happened with Ukraine inside of Russia. These

(30:10):
things are not going to go away quickly or easily.
I don't think anybody's trying to buy a better position
for some sort of peace settlement. I think they want
all out war, and I think they're going for a
full blown, full blown Third World war that's going to
involve just about everybody that's on the China team and
everybody that's on the US team. And I think it's

(30:31):
going to be ugly, and I think we need to
definitely reinforce what we've got going on in our own
country as far as.

Speaker 13 (30:37):
Our strategic security.

Speaker 12 (30:41):
Jack Bosobic Strategically, Boone is talking about the size being
chosen right now. President Trump has worked like crazy, NonStop
to Gary put their guns down. That's in fact not happening,
and it's just not the kinetic part. It's also the
very smart political, psychological economic warfare. Politically, tonight, we're going

(31:04):
to start the evening show at six o'clock in Tokyo.
Excuse me, in Korea. Tokyo is already a mess because
of the financial implosion. They've got inability to sell bonds,
but right now political warfare, the culmination of a twenty
or thirty year project is that the Chinese Companies Party
get actually win at the ballot box tomorrow with a
puppet government that basically threw Korea into a crisis by

(31:28):
throwing out the Conservative a.

Speaker 3 (31:29):
Couple of months ago. Pasobic thoughts.

Speaker 5 (31:34):
Well, Steve, what you're seeing China do is a sort
of non militaristic version of what Japan, I believe in
nineteen forty coined as the Greater East Asia co prosperity sphere.
So when we talk about the first island chain, that's Japan,
that's down through Taiwan, that's down to the Philippines, the

(31:56):
South China Sea, that's all the first island chainversion for it.
China views that as their quote unquote sphere of influence.
And so they're just working slowly but surely as the
dragon in circles the entire sphere. If you look at it,
it's kind of almost like a circle if you look
at it on a map of the westpac that.

Speaker 13 (32:17):
This is what they want to be their sphere of influence.
So what do they have? First? They have Hong Kong.
It's now theirs.

Speaker 5 (32:23):
We saw that twenty nineteen, the protest, but then COVID
came around and suddenly Hong Kong was put completely under
their thumb. It was given back very foolishly in ninety seven.
Now Taiwan they're working on that. North Korea, of course,
has already been there since the fifties. They took that militarily,
they were pushed back across the thirtieth parallel, but they

(32:43):
still maintained the rest of the country until now. Now
South Korea will fall to a pro CCP. It is
likely to fall unless the Conservatives pull it out. Pro
CCP party later this evening in Seoul. So now you've
got South Korea and North Korea, and then next will
be well, guess what the CCP influence is thick. They're

(33:03):
fighting an insurgency out of the North Philippines, certainly by
the way, giving a wink in the nod to to
the Southern Philippines and communist Taiwan's Taiwan.

Speaker 12 (33:16):
Twenty five percent of the people in Taiwan support the CCP.
You got a fifth calumn there, that's huge.

Speaker 5 (33:20):
Well, stay generational, right, they're pushing, they're pushing unification. They say,
we are all. It's it's pan China, and then after
that comes Pan Asia. So we want we want all
of China to be connected.

Speaker 13 (33:33):
What do they do. They isolated Taiwan internationally.

Speaker 5 (33:36):
They cut them off from finance, They cut them off
from commerce, they cut them off from markets, they cut
them off from diplomacy. Jimmy Carter very foolishly gave the
diplomatic recognition, switched it from the Republic of China Taiwan
at the United Nations gave their seat to the Chinese
Communist Party back in the nineteen seventies, and so this
set up a situation where they could diplomatically isolate Taiwan

(33:58):
from the rest of the international community.

Speaker 12 (33:59):
Forget the moral you know, democracy, forget all that, put
it aside, put all of that aside.

Speaker 3 (34:06):
In real polytique.

Speaker 12 (34:09):
And we've tried to cut them off from access to chips,
kind of like cutting Japan off from oil in nineteen
forty one. You've got to be ready to roll right now.
We lose we lose the chip plants in the R
and D and all of that in Taiwan, the American
economy drops twenty five percent.

Speaker 3 (34:26):
You can't run the economy.

Speaker 12 (34:27):
We have today without those chips, it is a strategic necessity.
What's happening in Phoenix and all this and high it's
all great. It's a decade await at least in probably
twenty years till you're up to the types of production
levels you need to fuel advanced economy, particularly with artificial intelligence.

Speaker 3 (34:44):
Jack, we don't have any choice. Cleo.

Speaker 12 (34:46):
Pascal is going to be with us tonight we kick
off coverage and sold. She's on the third island chain
and she's going to tell you she's warned all those
islands we fought for eighty years ago. Taraa, Pella, Loose, Saipan,
all of it, right. I think she's in the app.
The Chinese commanies party is there and they're spending big bucks,
and they're what we fought for and gave our blood for,

(35:08):
is the protection of the United States.

Speaker 3 (35:09):
Strategically, they're all over, folks.

Speaker 12 (35:12):
We are hurtling down this when task reports that they're
doing targeting in Berlin, and hey, maybe that's what they're
sending a signal, but they're not hiding what they're doing,
and the Ukrainians are not hiding what they're doing, and
either the deep State, in fact Pasobic. Is there any
possibility that they could have pulled off this thing over
eighteen months that didn't have active and big involvement by

(35:36):
either D and I, you know, the intelligence agencies under
Tulsi Gabbard or the CIA, Sir.

Speaker 5 (35:46):
There's no way that our intelligent services could not have
known about this. We've had intelligent services that have been
on the grounds as we know prior to the war,
that are directly embedded, direct imbeds with Ukrainian Intelligence Services
and Ukrainian Secure already services. There's no way this could
have been done. And by the way, that's their job.
Their job is to pay attention to what's going on

(36:08):
in the rest of the world and pay make sure
that we know.

Speaker 13 (36:10):
That's what their budgets are for.

Speaker 5 (36:13):
That's why we pay for them, That's what the that's
the black letter text of the billet. So if our
intelligence services didn't know about this attack, this is an
even bigger problem than if they knew and simply misinformed
the president. However, if they knew and misinformed the presidents,
that's a problem for them, and it's highly unlikely that

(36:34):
this could have been done, that this could have been
coordinated and planned without some knowledge of the American intelligence.

Speaker 12 (36:42):
Services, Okay, besides knowledge, and they didn't give the president
because YO said, yesterda, we didn't know anything about it.

Speaker 3 (36:48):
What about the involvement actually to do it?

Speaker 12 (36:50):
Do you believe the Ukrainians could set up something this
sophisticated three thousand miles and across many airfields. So by
the way, the Russians are saying eight and they can
all be repaired. Don't believe that, Okay? Could they have
done something this deep a strike, this sophisticated over eighteen
months and kept it from the Russians knowing unless you
had direct involvement in the execution of this plan by

(37:15):
either dia CIA or any of the ones that Tulci
Gabbert runs.

Speaker 5 (37:20):
Sir, Well, see if it's just it's just not how
these units operated.

Speaker 13 (37:25):
It hasn't been how they've operated.

Speaker 5 (37:27):
They would have asked for the target packete that Ukraine
doesn't have the type of satellite technology that America has.
Ukraine doesn't have the same type of sophisticated NGO or
NRO networks NNGA or NRO networks like America has. They
don't have satellites all of the world looking at every
Russian base know when the jets are there. How would
they know when the bombers are there if they don't

(37:48):
have the drone up in the air over the base.
They would know that from satellite imagery. So where are
they getting the satellite real time data from to be
able to conduct the a when knowing when the bombers
are there, when the wings are not heated.

Speaker 13 (38:02):
Don't tell me they got a couple of.

Speaker 5 (38:03):
Guys with pair of binoculars, you know, or mark one
eyeball sitting out in town, sitting in an uber or something.

Speaker 13 (38:08):
They were a y index car.

Speaker 5 (38:10):
No, they would have been using satellite technology and imagery
up to the moment, and they only could have gotten
that from their one significant intelligence partner in this entire fight.
And that's been going all the way back ten plus
years now, and that's the United States Military hanger.

Speaker 12 (38:27):
A second, we're we go back to boone about what's
happening in the country and was to Grant Kevin?

Speaker 3 (38:31):
Is Kevin Kevin?

Speaker 12 (38:32):
So but Kevin, A massive part of this was you
guys over there Seapack to give urgency. You your brother
Jack Matt schlapped the entire team Mo Bannon. They had
all the big uh, all the guys in the Polish
right there.

Speaker 3 (38:44):
How big a stunning come from behind victory is this, sir, hey, Steve.

Speaker 15 (38:49):
Great to be with you guys today. It was in
incredible victory last night. It was down to the wire.
We had about you know, many all night, just back
and forth, back and forth, had to have and yeah,
we pulled away, pulled away there. Just over fifty percent
of the voters came in and it was about I
think a three hundred thousand vote difference.

Speaker 13 (39:12):
At the end there.

Speaker 15 (39:13):
But yeah, I think it came in around four four
am here that they said one hundred percent was called.

Speaker 13 (39:20):
It was a great time.

Speaker 15 (39:21):
I got to meet with the Vrovsky briefly at the
election party. But however, as I was reporting last night,
it was a little different in that opposed to the
American watch parties, everybody kind of went home because nobody
participated in the exit polls like they do in America,
and everyone figured the call would come in the afternoon,

(39:42):
if not potentially get stolen. But that wasn't the case.
That's what we can attest to paper ballots. You know,
they don't use the DOMNU voting machines. Over here at all,
and of course the population is many, many times smaller
than America. But but yeah, come from I'm Victory, and yeah,
I'm in Warsaw. Now you can see a great, great

(40:04):
view downtown behind me. There aren't any celebrations just yet,
as it's more of a liberal city. But I'm going
to go out onto the town later today we'll see
what we could get get into. But yeah, very high
spirits here. I'm coming to you live from Republic of TV.
They've been generous enough to give me the setting for

(40:25):
joining the warroom this morning, and yeah, yeah, it's been
a great time so far. So we're getting for.

Speaker 3 (40:33):
Kevin.

Speaker 12 (40:34):
Hang on for a second, we're taking We're gonna take
a short commercial break. Kevin Pasobic in Warsaw, Jack Pasobic
with us, Boone Cutler's with us. A lot going on
here in the US. We're gonna have Harnwell from Rome.
I think Edra Cohen's going to join us. Rudy a
little later. We're trying to get Mike Lindella for the
Trial of the Century. I think he did a press
conference and then he's in the Trial of the Century. Anyway,

(40:54):
short break back in a moment.

Speaker 13 (40:58):
Here's your host came back.

Speaker 3 (41:03):
I think things are gonna be a little turbulent going forward.

Speaker 12 (41:06):
Particularly President Trumps made such an effort to end the
kinetic part of the Third World War directionally. I don't know.
He's got the Germans end this week. He's supposed to
talk to Sheen later this week. I'm sure he's working
the phones. But we got to get control of this thing.

Speaker 3 (41:23):
Number one.

Speaker 12 (41:24):
We got to get control of the deep state. This
is why we've been arguing for a special counsel. Let's
get into this thing and start tearing it apart. It's
either totally and completely incompetent, So why do we even
have it, or are there an active participant.

Speaker 3 (41:39):
In in our demise?

Speaker 12 (41:43):
And if they knew about it and hit it from
the President that all the deep staters should be forced out,
turfed out. They either worked on this thing for decades
and or for years and or they knew about it
and hit it from the President, take it, pick them,
take your choice. They got to go. They've got to go.

(42:04):
This started the very beginning of Trump's first term. This
is all about General Flynn, This is about Russia Gate,
this is about the Nullification project. These people are evil, okay,
and you see what happened, and Russia's just not gonna
sit there and take.

Speaker 13 (42:21):
It in the in the in the in, the.

Speaker 12 (42:25):
Attack was audacious and bold and brilliant. That's also not
the point, birch Gold, the end of the dollar Empire.
Part of this is all heading towards Brazil, uh Russia, China.
Three of the big bricks those are the guys meeting
in uh In in Moscow during the eighties commemoration and

(42:48):
everything's changed since then. That's the railhead of everything changing.
The Russians being much less engaged in actually ramping up
in Ukraine, the CCP and she particularly saying we're not
so interesting trade deal and actually talk bestn't admitted they
kind of walked away from the table. They walked away
from everything they agreed to in Geneva. That's a quote
from the Secretary of Treasury birch Gold dot com slash Bannon.

(43:12):
End of the dollar Empire, more now than ever, the
Rio reset get up to speed.

Speaker 3 (43:16):
Understand it remembered.

Speaker 12 (43:17):
It ain't the price of gold, it's the process of
how that price gets there and what it means over
time and where it's hitting over time. The Birch Gold
people are there to teach you to think for yourself. Also,
take your phone out Bannon at nine eight.

Speaker 3 (43:32):
That would be me b A. N n At nine
eight nine eight nine eight.

Speaker 12 (43:36):
The Ultimate guide totally free of investing in golden pressures
metals in the age of Trump, not the era Trump.

Speaker 3 (43:42):
Jack Posobic.

Speaker 12 (43:44):
Your thoughts about how big Poland was or is in
this entire equation and exactly what does this mean for
us geostrategically, sir.

Speaker 5 (43:54):
Well, Steve, It's it's very interesting because I read an
article in Political Let's come back to the timeline here.

Speaker 13 (44:01):
I go to Poland about a week ago.

Speaker 5 (44:04):
Today Seapack Poland kicks off incredible event. Matt Schlapp, the
entire Seapack team, President of Poland, the current president of
Poland who's term limited Outnavrowsky.

Speaker 13 (44:16):
He's there.

Speaker 5 (44:16):
We're campaigning in the most conservative so it's effectively a
rally in the most conservative area of southeastern Poland, which
just so happens to be a little spot of Poland
where a family known as Pasobic comes from.

Speaker 13 (44:32):
So we're right down the road from where all.

Speaker 5 (44:34):
My cousins and my family lives. My ancestral hometown in
leja Ice, Poland, and the main city was Jeeshov where
we were holding the event. And that's like the Texas
of Poland. These guys, I mean, they vote like crazy
for conservatives down there.

Speaker 13 (44:50):
So that's the idea, drive out the conservative vote.

Speaker 5 (44:52):
And then Politico runs this article on Saturday saying, oh, Maga, candidates,
they've hit their ceiling, They've hit their they can't go
any further. Steve Bannon was running around Europe back in
twenty seventeen, twenty eighteen try to get something going. He
couldn't get it off the ground. And all these sea
packs are going off and they can't win ever anything.
And so the German owned propaganda of Politico ran an

(45:18):
election interference article the same way that Obama and Soros
and Ann Applebaum, who, by the way, the crown princess
of the globalists over at the Atlantic, who is married
to married to the current Minister of Defense Raddick Zikorski
of the Liberals in Poland, and she had up and
her husband puts all a mission accomplished, mission acomplishment. Let

(45:40):
me guess, let me tell you something, and apple Bomb,
the mission was accomplished.

Speaker 13 (45:44):
You lost.

Speaker 5 (45:47):
Obama lost, Soros lost, Apple Bomb lost, the globalists lost.
What won God, country, faith, homeland, culture, That's what won.
That's what was on the ballot. And the Polish people said,
you know what, We're sick of it. We're sick of

(46:07):
having Brussels and all the rest of it jammed down
our throats. We're sick of being told that we need
to open our borders and replace the people of Poland
with people who are not Polish, people who don't share
our ways. And we're done with it. And this candidate Nebrovsky,
when he ran Steed, he won. And let's explain why.
Number one excellent candidate in his own right, forty three
years old. He's a former boxer, he's a guy who's

(46:28):
been operative in intellectual circles as a conservative, and he
runs a World War II remembrance museum in Poland. Poland's
got a long history, and World War Two in Poland
isn't that long ago when you think about it. That
his job was to stand up and say, this is
how we survived World War Two, the horrors of that,

(46:49):
and then the horrors of the Soviet occupation.

Speaker 13 (46:51):
For eighty years, for eighty years, and how did Poland survive.

Speaker 5 (46:55):
It was by maintaining their borders, their language, their culture,
and their faith. And so this victory when they sent
everything they said. I was on this show two weeks
ago saying how the globalists were going all in on
Poland because this is the key lynchpin to Ukraine.

Speaker 13 (47:12):
How did he win?

Speaker 5 (47:13):
He won by moving to the right and to shore
up the right wing support in the party across the
very Poland's got a multi party democracy moster Bean country.

Speaker 13 (47:23):
So he wins that.

Speaker 5 (47:24):
He wins by moving right, says, no Ukraine and NATO,
No Ukraine and the EU. We're going to push for
the peace deals, he said. We support Ukraine's right to
self defense, but we want peace. Why because stability was
what we need, not war.

Speaker 3 (47:38):
The global one.

Speaker 12 (47:39):
The globalists sent Obama over the paym a million bucks.
They had this phony conference a week before the I
think it was the first of the week before it,
with Valie.

Speaker 3 (47:49):
Jarrett and all of them. They're all in on this.

Speaker 12 (47:51):
Hey, the Poles saved they said himself, the Pole saved
us in Vienna right at the beginning of this whole thing.

Speaker 3 (48:00):
Jack, I know you've got to bounce.

Speaker 12 (48:01):
Where do people get your content, social media podcasts, Real
America's Voice, all of it.

Speaker 5 (48:08):
We're gonna be up at two pm. Of course here
at two pm Easter. And I'm back in the US.
And what can I say, Steve. They may have sent Obama,
they may have sent Valerie Jared, they may have sent
an Apple bamb But you know something, When the post
O Bros. Show up in Poland, you know it's about
to go down. We're never gonna forget where they're from.

Speaker 12 (48:29):
Hey, Boone, Cutler's gonna stick with us, Kevin, Butsobik's gonna
stick with us. We're going to Rome. We got Harnwell,
maybe Ezra, Cohen, Rudy, all of it. Stick around, Jack,
Thank you so much, Take your phone out. Bannon nine
eight nine eight nine eight. The Ultimate Guide for investing
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