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Speaker 1 (00:02):
This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray
for our enemies because we're going to medieval on these people.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
You've not got a free shot.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
All these networks lying about the people, the people have
had a belly full of it.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
I know you don't like hearing that. I know you
tried to do everything in the world to stop there,
but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
And where do people like that go to share the
big line?
Speaker 4 (00:27):
Mega media?
Speaker 5 (00:28):
I wish in my soul, I wish that any of
these people had a conscience.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
Speaker 6 (00:38):
If that answer is to save my country, this country
will be saved.
Speaker 7 (00:44):
Worry use your host, Stephen ca Ma.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
It's Thursday, twelve June in the year Verlert, twenty twenty five.
A pretty intense day on many many fronts in this
in the Third World War, particularly the home front. What's
happening here in the United States. I've got an incredible
team that's going to walk us through. We're going to
talk about the deep state, so much agriculture, big agg
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some mixed messaging from the President United States. So we'll
get to, but I got to start with this situation
in Persia as we call it, or Iran as the
CIA calls it.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
It's quite it's very confusing, so much going on.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
So I've got Congressman MTG is on with us, but
I want to start in Constantinople or Istanbul as some
would have it.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
With Kurt Mills of American Conservative Kirk.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
Can you walk through exactly just the fact pattern of
what's happened here over the last twelve to twenty four hours.
We lost you, MTG. You've got by the way, we
just lost our linker and try to get back up.
Congressman Green, you've been pretty adamant. You're a big defender
of Issuel, but you've been pretty adamant on social media.
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You don't know what's going on here, but you're very
confused or concerned about the war toxins, sounding about potential bombing,
runs of military conflict in Persia, your thoughts about this man.
Speaker 8 (02:12):
Just to clarify, Steve, I'm America first, all the way,
and I don't know anyone that wakes up and thinks
about bombing I ran, I honestly don't. I haven't talked
to anyone that thinks that's a good idea, or even
it doesn't even occur to them because it feels like
no threat to their life. What we do know is
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a threat to America is the current war that we
are seeing waged by the Democrats, by the foreign nationals
waving Mexican flags, and by the anarchists, communist anarchists that
are being funded by major leftists been likely linked to
the CCP, people like Neville Singham, which we are investigating.
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And so these are the things Americans are concerned about.
And see just got to a step further. You know,
of course we stand with our allies. Of course we
we we stand with Israel and all of our allies. However,
we've been told for as long as I can remember,
twenty maybe thirty years now, that Iran is on the
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verge of having a nuclear weapon any day, any day,
and we constantly hear that scary threat to us. But
we've heard it too many times, and Americans are just
fatigued and they're sick of it, and we really want
to focus on the self inflicted problems that we've created
and fixed them right here at home.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
Do you you get concerned when you hear all these
news flashes coming across that we're taking people of the
out of the the embassy in Iraq, and that they're
these small bases we have still in Iraq are subject
to retaliation. So they're telling they're sending the families home,
any families over their families in the the golf enders
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against in Q weight. And then you have the President
come back out and saying, hey, I don't support any
military action. I've got a team negotiating it. Does it
strike you as odd? I mean, I don't remember Taiwan
doing that or other people. Does it strike you as
odd that it seems to be some sort looks like
we're being forced into this without doing any of the
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economic sanctions that.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
Clearly you should do. Go up the esclatory ladder, that
might take you a year or so. Does that strike
you as odd?
Speaker 8 (04:30):
It strikes me is extremely odd. I don't think anyone
has any business going into the President's office and trying
to talk him into a war that we should have
nothing to do with. I think that is extremely concerning.
And whoever those people are, they're not on our team,
and I think we.
Speaker 9 (04:48):
All find that to be a big problem.
Speaker 8 (04:50):
I'll tell you some things that really concerned me, Steve
is Iran is a member of the Bricks group that
is becoming more powerful every single year. And Iran and
Russia just signed a defense deal months ago, so that's
a defense deal that those two countries have together. And
also Iran supplies ninety percent of their oil to China,
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and so we know China has an invested interest in
the safety and security of the oil that they buy
from Iran. So these are concerns to me. The United
States has driven the war in Ukraine against Russia, so
I imagine Russia is pretty sick of the United States. We
know China is pretty sick of the United States. They're
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upset about tariffs and how much we've been beating them
with trade ever since that has happened. And so these
are two major nuclear countries that have a lot of
reasons to be unhappy with the United States. And this
could be it could be. You know, it's like it's
kind of like the final straw, and I hope it
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isn't that because the American people don't want any of this.
The American people didn't want to support the Ukraine war.
The American people don't want to deal with China at all.
We'd like to do it ourselves and not have to
deal with that country a single bit. So I think
we're looking at a situation where I don't see those
countries messing with Israel. I just don't see that happening.
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But they could say we've had enough of the United
States of America and all of our foreign intervention.
Speaker 10 (06:27):
MT.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
I think we've got Curt up now in Constantinople, Kurt.
Why does it seem like we're inexorable? I mean, Congressman
Green just mentioned the oil. It's twenty two percent OF's
intake on oil. Who's the existential threat we face? It's
ninety percent of the Ranian oil and it's you know,
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it's part of a forty year deal. They are part
of bricks. They're meeting in Rio de jion Are on
July sixth. They're trying to destroy the US dollar. But
why does it seem like everybody's talking a military option
when I don't think, and maybe I'm wrong, you know
all the details here that we haven't really even started
the escalatory ladder that we had in President Trump's first term,
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when we had the mulas backed up to the wall,
much less real uh, stopping of all shipments to China.
Speaker 7 (07:17):
Sir.
Speaker 4 (07:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 10 (07:19):
I mean, look, I think base case and this is
this is fast emerging, and it's very bizarre, frankly, to
telegraph an attack. You know, if you're going to any
sort of attack, you're going to tell someone that you
were going to bomb their house, you wouldn't give them
twelve to twenty four hours leeway. But I still think
base case we are looking at and is rarely only
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attack on Iran in the coming days and hours. You
know it is overnight here in Turkey. It will be
sun rising Iran in seven hours or even less. And
you know that that is the prime movert. Now who
is the prime mover? The Israelis want to make a move.
The is really government, I should say, now whose own
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domestic credibility is on the line. He survived a coalition
near a collapse this week. There's polling that indicates that Netna,
who could relinquish power in Jerusalem to his arch rival,
and that Tully Bennett, the former prime minister, And that's
what's driving it. Additionally, I think the lobby, frankly, here
at home, the well known Fox News on Prossario, Mark
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Levin had a launched last week with Trump in the
White House, and I think it had some effect.
Speaker 4 (08:32):
So the president is under pressure.
Speaker 10 (08:35):
But the reality is there are still ongoing negotiations this Sunday,
this weekend in Oman in Moscow with the Iranians, and
there's a deal to be had here. If as Trump himself,
as the President himself said openly today, if the Israelis
don't foil it, Let's.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
Talk about Levin and the Fox. You know, Mark Levin's
one of the smartest guys around. He's had a very
successful show. He's an icon of the conservative movement. He's
a guy that doesn't get his fact wrong. Why would
Mark Levin go into the President's office. He's been a
support of the president at least since the first term.
Maybe not in the primaries in sixteen, but in the
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first term. Why would Mark Levin go in and give
and give false information? Given he's a smart guy and
he knows the stakes here, sir, yeah.
Speaker 10 (09:24):
Now questioning his intelligence, but questioning his information, I mean,
per all reporting. Levin directly contradicted the sweeping conclusion of
America's fifteen plus intelligence agency's held by dn I Telsea
Gabbert that Iran does not have a nuclear weapon, and
as the congress woman alluded to, I think quite eloquently,
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Iran has been on the verge of a nuclear weapon
for two decades now and still no Dice and Levin
at this lunch. It has been widely reported instead that basically, yes,
I said.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
That, yeah, go ahead, go ahead.
Speaker 10 (10:04):
No, I mean, I mean I he basically said that
there there are you know, it's it's one hour to midnight.
Speaker 7 (10:09):
Uh.
Speaker 10 (10:10):
And I just don't think that's accurate. There's there's no
evidence of that there me.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
From my sources tell me that whereas D and I
maybe has the point point you laid out that the
c I A and my understanding is the CIA was
actually represented Sunday at Camp David at this meeting, the
c I A has a different take on things, and
that they may actually support the Mark Levin. Have you
heard that or would you strike to strike you as
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odd at this huge meeting that D and I didn't
even wasn't even invited or didn't show up.
Speaker 4 (10:43):
I have not heard that.
Speaker 10 (10:45):
Again, you know, technically, through the government channels, D and
I oversees C I A, and D and I is
the wrangler.
Speaker 4 (10:51):
It's the war on terror.
Speaker 10 (10:52):
UH job effectively is the wrangler of all of America's
intelligence agencies, most of which you don't hear about it,
and their universal conclusion as of the spring is that
Iran does not have it and wasn't particularly close. If
there's new information, UH, it's it's always possible, but as
of now, you know, the most common sited source was
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a very obscure sort of domestic intelligence agency in Austria.
I believe they said the Iranians were close. The universal,
the near universal conclusion is they're not close. And I
think the evidence is how far down the Iranians are
willing to go on in Richmond because their cards are
that shaky.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
Hang on one second, Curt, I need you to stick
around with you. I know it's late there, Kins mcgreen.
You've been at the forefront of trying to stop our
involvement in the Ukraine War, of trying to get an
accounting on the Ukraine War.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
Your ask aren't aren't that huge?
Speaker 1 (11:48):
I don't think you've ever got an answer, aren't most
of your most of the folks in Congress, in the House,
don't they really support the Mark Levin school of thought
and that you're kind of with a handful of other people.
A little bit of a lone wolf here, ma'am.
Speaker 8 (12:03):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely, they definitely support the Mark Levin and
the Fox News Rupert Murdoch's line of thought. That's that's
definitely the way that many of them want to go.
But however, I think that the truth always comes out,
and the truth.
Speaker 9 (12:20):
Came out quickly with Ukraine.
Speaker 8 (12:22):
You know, they told us in Congress early on that
Vladimir Putin was going to quickly take Ukraine, Poland would
be next, and that he would steamroll across Europe. Well
none of that ever happened, and uh there was I
could find no statement anywhere that Putin had said he
was going to do that. So I know for a
fact that they'll lie to us in Congress to get
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our agreement on something. And I think, I think maybe
that's what's going on here.
Speaker 9 (12:49):
I'm not sure.
Speaker 8 (12:51):
I haven't been briefed on the intel on it, but
I have something called common sense, and when I've been
told over and over for over two decades, it's that
Iran is on the verge of having a nuclear bomb,
but yet they've never had one, even though twenty years
ago it was days away.
Speaker 9 (13:08):
I think it's pretty clear.
Speaker 8 (13:10):
We know what the motive is here and the secular
government of Israel, and I think that's really important for
Christians to understand the secular government of Israel and Benjamin Nttanna,
who maybe wants to bomb Iran, but it's not I
don't think it's a popular thing. He's having trouble in
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Israel himself. So we'll see how that works out.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
We want both of these stays through the break real quickly.
We got about a minute on this side. Congressman, back
home in your district, you're pretty close to the folks
back there. Where do they stand right now on a
military involvement or even allowing our ally to go bomb
Iran right now?
Speaker 8 (13:53):
You know, I think people back at home just think
Israel should handle their own business, and they want our
American military to defend our United States border, and they
would love to see our military go after these foreign
nationals waving Mexican flags on our own land and the
communist Antifa, the anarchists that have declared war on our government.
That's what people back at home think our government should
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be doing is taking care of our own enemies right
here on our own homeland.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
Kis you stick around. You had a massive wind to
day with your Doge vote. I want to get to
that after shot commercial break, also some artificial intelligence. You've
been the cutting edge of that. And the big beautiful
Bill Kurt Mills is going to stick with us. Tom
Fitton is going to join us. We got a lot
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Speaker 4 (15:00):
Here's your host, Stephen k Man.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
Okay, remember the Watchford in the war room is there's
no conspiracies, but there's also no coincidence.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
Far be it for me to say because MTG's.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
In the A block on the afternoon War Room, President
Trump just tweets out on Iran or puts a true
social out I'm quoting. We remain committed to a diplomatic
resolution to the Iran nuclear issue. My entire administration has
been directed to negotiate with Iran. They could be a
great country, but they first must completely give up hopes
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of obtaining a nuclear weapon. Thank you for your attention
to this matter. First off, MTG Congressman, your thoughts on
that which was put up in the middle of your discussion, ma'am.
Speaker 8 (15:51):
I wonder if the President is watching War Room today, Steve,
that would be my first thought. I think the president
is completely aligned with his campaign promises. That he told
America that he wanted to end the foreign wars, and
that truth right there shows that the president is still
committed to that. It also provides some insight into.
Speaker 9 (16:15):
Where he is at and what.
Speaker 8 (16:17):
He is directing his entire administration to do, regardless of
those that come into his level office and try to
talk him into something else. So I'm very pleased with
that tweet or true who is our true?
Speaker 7 (16:27):
Social posts?
Speaker 2 (16:29):
Curtent Mails your interpretation of this, I.
Speaker 4 (16:33):
Think it's a profound statement.
Speaker 10 (16:34):
Frankly, I mean he amidst all the hurly Burley, amidst
all the helter skelter. He may think two things very clear.
One everyone in the administration. I mean that feels like
a shout, a shot across the bow. He wants close
ranks on this, everyone on the NEGO, everyone in the
administration should be committed to the negotiations. Number one, Number two,
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he said, the goal is to prevent around from obtaining
a nuclear weapon. This is very critical. He says nothing
about the specifics of enrichment. The zero enrichment line has
been one that potentially could be.
Speaker 4 (17:10):
A spoiler or a deal breaker worth the Iranians.
Speaker 10 (17:13):
Now there is the possibility of a zero Richmond agreement
through this civil nuclear compendium, compendium with Saudi's and the Emirdis.
But the two things that he's driving home here is
everybody else in the administration.
Speaker 4 (17:27):
Fall in line.
Speaker 10 (17:28):
And then two, let's not lose sight of the goal here,
which is no nuclear weapon.
Speaker 4 (17:33):
And for what is worth the Iranians.
Speaker 10 (17:35):
The Foreign Minister himself in Rachi says, if all the
goal is is to have no nuclear weapons in Iran,
you have a deal. And they're meeting again this weekend
amidst all of this talk of a strike, and they
could ink a deal as soon as this weekend.
Speaker 4 (17:50):
I think this is extremely bullish.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
Kurt hanging around for a second. Congressman Green, You've got
a very big win. Just a little while ago, the
first Doze package. Really, I guess the recisions package of
nine point three billion dollars including money for PBS and NPR,
which you had the hearings, are just passed.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
You want to walk us through that?
Speaker 9 (18:12):
Yes, very excited.
Speaker 8 (18:14):
I chair the Doge Subcommittee on Oversight, and we held
some very powerful hearings this year, two of which were
on Usaid and defunding NPR and PBS. Well, we finally
made some headway, even though it was really hard. I
cannot believe Republicans that vote know to this stuff, but
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we finally passed the Doge recisions cut, the first one
that cuts over nine billion dollars, and I really.
Speaker 9 (18:42):
Think that's a drop in the bucket.
Speaker 8 (18:43):
Steve, I think the American people deserve a lot more,
but I think they should pay close attention to any
Republicans that don't want to make these Doge recision cut votes.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
It's stunning, and we'll deal with that maybe the next
week or two. One question I get from the audience
all the time, you had a masterclass in a subcommittee
that you chair, the committee you chair in grilling witnesses,
can you please confirm that those horrible people from NPR
and PBS are not going to be with the cut
of the billion dollars in each that they will no
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longer be employed as federal employees.
Speaker 4 (19:18):
Ma'am.
Speaker 9 (19:19):
Yes, the details of it is.
Speaker 8 (19:22):
Unfortunately twenty twenty five was already funded. They will be
defunded in twenty six and twenty seven with a spending
cut for this fiscal year. Steve again, I think we
should defund them permanently as well as USAID.
Speaker 9 (19:37):
Very dangerous program.
Speaker 8 (19:39):
I don't like the idea that it can be left
open and taken into the state department. We've already seen
what a Democrat state department can do. But we have
to keep pushing. And for people watching at home, I
have to tell you we had four Republicans vote no
to this. We had six, and two of them pulled
back their votes in order for this to But no
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Republicans should be voting no. And so I want you
to know it's an incredible fight up here. But I
tell you what you know. There's a good reason to
put out and for people to see how Republicans vote,
because it gives people a reason to pay attention to
primary season and that's coming well.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
I remember I tell people at the time and back
in the summer twenty three, you were up at two
and three in the morning fighting for these cuts, back
then being overridden by Republicans, not even Democrats. The Republicans
wouldn't even bring this out a conference. You've been at
the lead of this artificial intelligence. Today, there's a report
that Altman, the head of chat GPT, which by the way,
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I think has has something like seven billion downloads or
seven billion hits, is actually said he's of the This
is a report that he's talking to people he thinks
artificial general intelligence may already be here.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
Can you get people up.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
To date of your battle on the big beautiful bill
to insert federalism in here and about the States being
able to step up and do something about artificial intelligence?
Speaker 9 (21:08):
Yes, thank you for asking me that.
Speaker 8 (21:10):
So Sam Altman came out today and said that he
thinks that AI may have surpassed human intelligence, that we've
already crossed over into an area where AI can get
ahead of us. And I think that's I think I
find that terrifying. Here's what shocked me is I could
not believe, under a Republican controlled House that we had
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a small provision inserted in President Trump's one big, beautiful
bill that was only supposed to be about taxes, energy,
and border security, and they put one clause in there
that literally destroyed federalism for ten years and telled states
they cannot regulate or make laws on AI for ten years. Steve,
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And here's let me tell you the dirty little secret.
Republicans in Congress up here, they have no plan on
the federal level. There is no legislation that's been introduced,
there is no legislation.
Speaker 9 (22:02):
That they've talked to us about on.
Speaker 8 (22:04):
How to regulate and make laws on the federal level.
But they want to go ahead and preemptively tie states hands.
And we have Sam Altman coming out and saying that
AI is already smarter than people. And we haven't even
added in to what will happen when AI is controlling
robots and AI can control all kinds of things. And
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there's no future that I want to see America living
in and my children especially, and future generations where AI
can replace humans replace their jobs, because we're looking at
a possibility of poverty we can't even comprehend. We've never
seen in the history of America. We're looking at the
highest unemployment that could be possible because AI can replace
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so many sectors of jobs, especially when you add in
what robots and robotics can do. And I think this
is just outrageous and irresponsible that Republicans can do this.
And I never saw President Trump campaign on that. Not
one time did I see that man stand on a
rally stage and say to the American people that he
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wants to tie States hands for ten years to make
laws and regulations on the future of AI.
Speaker 9 (23:20):
But that got put in there.
Speaker 8 (23:21):
That was on the Energy and Commerce Committee that Brett
Guthrie is the chair of. And Jay Olbernalty of California,
who has spent the past almost two years now chairing
and investigating, wrote a big report on AI. That was
the provision that was put in along with the AI lobby,
and now they're trying.
Speaker 9 (23:42):
To fight to keep it. And Steve, I'll just I
know this is long.
Speaker 8 (23:44):
I'll finish up real quick. It's in the Senate right now.
The one big, beautiful bill is in the Senate, and
I can talk about this as much as I want
because it's going to come back to the House for
another vote, so we get another bite at the apple.
And in the Senate, the parliamentarian needs to take it
out because under reconciliation, the rules are the bill cannot
create policy, and that is absolutely creating a policy that
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states can't do anything for ten years. So the parliamentarian
really needs to take that out.
Speaker 9 (24:12):
And then the.
Speaker 8 (24:13):
Second warning I have is Ted Cruz introduce an amendment
and I don't know where it is right now. He
introduce an amendment that would change this one provision a
little bit and tie it to broadband money.
Speaker 9 (24:27):
It's under the Beads under Beads which.
Speaker 8 (24:29):
Is a program where states can get money for broadband
because many rural red states don't have broadband, and so
it's really dangerous. And if they take the money from
the Beads account, then they self impose the moratorium for
ten years. With they self impose they give up the
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ability to make regulations or laws for ten years. And
that's the amendment that Ted Cruz is putting in. I
really don't want to see that amendment pass. I want
to see the Senate parliamentary and take it out, and
I want to see Republicans do this publicly and do
it the right way for the American people to see.
Instead of a provision that got snuck in the bill
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and we only had less than twenty four hours to
read over one thousand pages.
Speaker 9 (25:13):
So long description.
Speaker 8 (25:16):
But it's a serious issue, and Steve, we have to
keep hammering on this one huge issue.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
I know the folks back home are very concerned about it.
But what's going to do for jobs and everything else?
I got a lot of upside, but unlimited downside MTG.
Social media. Where do people go to keep up with you?
Speaker 9 (25:33):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (25:33):
Follow me on Rep MTG and I really appreciate it, Steve.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
Thank you, ma'am. Great, Thank you, Kurt Mills. I'm gonna
hold you just through the break. I got one more question.
I want to ask about what people should focus on
since President Trump just put this truth social also some
mixed messaging today we'll play a little you know, Tom
Finton's going to come up.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
We've got some issues with the deep state.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
There's actually some I think a couple of the senior
admirals I think into pay coom in. Another general actually
went to the Builderberg group. What and some people from
the White House.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
Is going on?
Speaker 1 (26:11):
The globalists don't need to hear from us. They can
watch the War Room. Don't need to go give them
my ideas unbelievable. Kurt Mills is with us from Constantinople.
I think that shirt I had the Christmas gift free
Constantinople is like they had more hits than anything we've
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Speaker 7 (27:00):
Saying, President Trump hire to hurt on immigrations. What made
you change your.
Speaker 3 (27:05):
Mind about targeting in California farmers and people in the
hotels and the leisure business.
Speaker 6 (27:13):
Well, we're not targeting. In fact, if you look today,
I put out a statement today about farmers. Our farmers
are being hurt badly by you know, they have very
good workers. They've worked for them for twenty years. They're
not citizens, but they've turned out to be you know, great,
and we're going to have to do something about that.
We can't take farmers and take all their people and
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send them back because they don't have maybe what they're
supposed to have, maybe not. And you know what's going
to happen, and what is happening. They get rid of
some of the people because you know, you go into
a farm and you look and people don't they've been
there for twenty twenty five years and they've worked great,
and the owner of the farm loves them and everything else,
and then you're supposed to throw them out, and you
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know what happens. They end up hiring the people, the
criminals that have come in, the murderers from prisons and
everything else. So we're we're gonna have an order on.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
That pretty soon.
Speaker 6 (28:03):
I think we can't do that to a farmer's and
leisure to hotels. We're gonna have to use a lot
of common sense on that.
Speaker 1 (28:14):
Okay, that I think was reversed a little bit later
with a later truth social the President put out. But
like the one on the rant, maybe it's open for interpretation.
But all I can say is, Yo, mister President, we're
in the fight of our lives right now. I don't
think it's not to be wobbly with interest groups of
hotel operators and particularly farmers big agriculture. If you look
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at what big, big agriculture has done to these small
towns at the country by hiring illegal alien labor, they've
turned it into the Third World. This is one of
the things we're fighting for. And I know people in
the White House are getting to you and getting your
additional information, but we cannot cow tew to to uh big, big,
big act.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
We can't do it. We're going to fight now.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
We we gotta lock ranks, and hey, the watch for
it is because there's reasons or excuses for everybody. But hey,
the thing is they all got to go now. I'm
not saying the thirty or forty million, we have to
deal with that later. The ten million that came here
on Biden's watch have to go. That's ten million people.
It's a massive undertaking, and we're fighting now a war
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in every city, in every big city, every democratic hellhole
in the country. So I know people are going to
be talking about this and getting into it. But my
strongest recommendation is now not the time to put in
an executive order that clouds the situation. This is all
the Democrats are looking for and the Democrats.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
Are getting more and more violent.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
He had a US senator today that actually I think
got hostile to a Cabinet secretary. We're going to get
into that in a second, but this is getting as
serious as possible.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
Tom Finton.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
Part of this, and the part of the Iron thing,
and even part of this, part of the the deportations,
the border, the deep state, the real apparatus that runs
this government. With all the great efforts President Trump's doing,
the economics are coming through. You saw the bond market today,
Scott best and selling bonds. Inflation numbers are down. I mean,
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we're winning on every front. But when the deep state
gets involved, we make very little progress. And this is
the thing in Iran. I'm not convinced that the CIA
is on our side.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
I'm just not.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
Here's the question, did the CIA know anything about the
Ukraine a situation of attacking Russia.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
We're not at war with Russia. The American people are
not at war with Russia.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
McConnell yesterday's calling out people in the Pete Hexath and saying,
is this going to be a victory for Russia America.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
We're not engaged in that war.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
We're just not And This is what the Deep State
is trying to force it and asually into that war.
It's something in more in the Middle East. They want
to get back into the Middle East. We have to
fight this. Do you think enough's being done right now? Tom,
You've been You're very close to Cash, You're very close
to Dan Bongino and other top Pam Bondi, everybody. Do
you think enough is being done right now to start
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to take apart the deep State? Because this may be
the most important of all the different verticals. We've got
a problem is President Trump has to solve. If we
don't solve this, it may not be worth it because
they can just come back. They can come back as
soon as someone else's president.
Speaker 5 (31:23):
Sir, Well, you know, on a foreign policy issues you raise,
I'm more hawkish than you are, but I think we
would both agree that the deep state's approach to Ukraine,
Russia on Iran is not to solve any problems.
Speaker 7 (31:38):
It's to manage problems, right.
Speaker 5 (31:40):
And you know, Biden didn't want Russia to win, but
I also didn't want Russia to lose, which to me
is a wild abuse of the citizens caught up in
a war like that, And same thing with Iran, either
we want them to have nukes or we don't. Let's
not manage their nuclear program. We're not in a position
to do so. And that's what the deep state specializes in,
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creating problems that have to be managed rather than solved.
And I know that's not a Trump's general approach. Now,
all these issues related though to the agencies themselves. I'm
not quite sure why we still have a CIA, given
their failures, their documented record of failures over the decades.
There's not a dawn thing the CIA does that the
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military agencies can't do, the intelligence agencies can't and shouldn't,
and certainly the State Department can take up a lot
of the slack as well. And you know, and my
colleague Michael Morrison had a really strong analysis of the
situation that Cash and Donner in that dann are in
in the in the FBI. You know, are they you know,
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the title was are they hostages of the deep State?
And I think there's a strong argument that they're hostages
of the deep state consensus. And on top of that,
as Mica points out in the piece, you've got the
inertia of just bureaucracies, you've got the political calendar, and
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in many ways, in my view, they're distracted from their
core responsibility, I think, which is to dismantle the FBI
and protect the republic. I mean, the left tried to
kill President Trump last year. They tried to throw them
in jail. They've been fomenting an insurrection. We had right
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now a political leader of the Democratic Party, a senator
from California, assault law enforcement as he was disrupting a
press briefing. They're putting the country on the precipice. And
I would submit this insurrection. It's the other side of
the coin to the lawfare against Trump. And you get
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these folks an inch, they will take a mile, and
it's about protecting the republic in the end. And the
FBI is an instrumentality of those who would destroy the republic.
And Dan and Cash maybe running it for now, but
organizationally and institutionally, I don't think they're redeemable. And in
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the least, you know, give us the documents be transparent.
Speaker 7 (34:18):
I'm not seeing that.
Speaker 5 (34:19):
It's been months, Steve, and I'm sorry, it's a long time.
Speaker 7 (34:25):
You know.
Speaker 5 (34:26):
When the January sixth prosecutions happened, they immediately bolted out
of the Gate. Remember the left targeted everyone, prosecuted, rated,
you name it. Trump was in sites for jailing within
minutes of Biden taking office, even arguably before then. And
I'm just not seeing the urgency look in the Senate.
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You know, I know, Senator Thuns, people probably don't like
the fact we tweeted this out, but.
Speaker 7 (34:53):
Conservators are upset.
Speaker 5 (34:54):
They've got one hundred Trump appointees languishing on the floor
of the Senate.
Speaker 7 (35:00):
The committees have done the work, but.
Speaker 5 (35:03):
They can't be bothered the work five days a week
to move the nominees past the floor. These are not
nominees that are going to be waylaid that you know
they're going to lose. They just got to stay in
session to vote on them so that Trump has a
team in place to deal with these deep state issues
we're talking about. No one in Washington thinks anything is
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important enough to get in their way of their time off.
Speaker 7 (35:33):
Certainly that's true on the Hill.
Speaker 5 (35:35):
It's all about managing how much time they can get
away from town, not to do the work, but to
just not do work.
Speaker 1 (35:44):
Your recommendation. I agree with you on the CIA. I
kept Curt around to follow up with him on the FBI.
Speaker 2 (35:51):
You're a man of action.
Speaker 1 (35:52):
What is the one action you would recommend the Cash
and Dan take to start to take apart the FBI
that you would feel comfortablebout that you would see some
movement in this.
Speaker 5 (36:02):
They need to start firing people on mass. They need
to do a riff big time in the least. Look
to see what would happened over at USAI. D follow
Secretary of McMahon's leadership at Department of Education. And you
know they made me direction and buy in from the
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President to do this specifically. But there's not a duty
and responsibility the FBI that other federal law enforcement agencies
can't do. And I tell you, if these agencies, and
I've complained to leadership in Congress about this, if these
agencies are basically the same size with no curtailing of power,
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not even much in the way of budgetary haircuts, after
four years, Trump will be targeted for prosecution and everyone
around him, including you, including me, will be worried about
our freedom again. Within a second of the opposition coming in.
Speaker 1 (37:01):
Present Trump people, President Trump and his family will be
if we don't take this deep state down, they'll be
in prison. They manufacture stuff They're gonna come after President Trump.
They're going to come after President Trump. There's no doubt
about it. Look how livid they are now. Look at
the hate. The hate right now you see among these
people is greater than the worst, the worst in his
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first term.
Speaker 2 (37:23):
Worse. They're rabbit now.
Speaker 1 (37:25):
And as we go through the deportations of ten million,
it's going to get worse.
Speaker 2 (37:29):
Tom. We got to bounce.
Speaker 1 (37:30):
I got to have you back on I'm going to
drill down on this, maybe on a special where do
people go to get all your I agree with you.
This has got to come to the top of the stack.
It's got to be a priority. We've got to start
with the FBI and the CIA. The CIA is a
total complete disasters, led this country into these forever wars
that never needed to happen. All the intelligence is always wrong,
(37:52):
always wrong. And I say that as somebody that has
looked at the intelligence, sat there every day and say, hey, guys,
what do you got here? They always get it wrong,
and that you.
Speaker 2 (38:02):
Don't You can read the Washington Post.
Speaker 5 (38:04):
You don't need this.
Speaker 2 (38:05):
You can read the Washington Posts. You don't need the
c I A the lane.
Speaker 7 (38:08):
That's when they read before they go in, they go
to judicial.
Speaker 2 (38:11):
Wives dot Org.
Speaker 5 (38:12):
We're all over the internet, you know, social media, Twitter, Instagram.
Speaker 1 (38:16):
You name it, your your, your, your videos you put
up are amazing, Tom Fitton, thank you. We're gonna we're
gonna press this. We got to Tom's right, if it
exists at the budget.
Speaker 2 (38:27):
Levels and the size at the end of.
Speaker 1 (38:30):
President Trump's second term, we haven't done anything.
Speaker 2 (38:33):
We haven't done our jobs.
Speaker 1 (38:35):
Curt Mills, do you think we're do you think we
can take down the c I A.
Speaker 10 (38:38):
Sir, You know, I thought that was a fascinating segment.
So Fitton just said that he is more hawkish than you,
and so, you know, I think compared to me, that
makes him a dragon. And I think he said, uh,
that one he's committed to no Iranian nuclear weapon. But
he said too that he's not interested at all in
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Trump managing the details of Iranians of Iran's nuclear program,
and then he linked it to the CIA, which is,
you know, very very interesting. And as Green Congressman Green
linked at the beginning of the program, she said that,
you know, the Iran nuclear program has been a sort
of bugbear, has been a sort of scare tactic of hawks.
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And deep state operatives for going on twenty years. And
she's right. The reality here is the goalpost keeps getting moved.
First with Iran it was no nuclear weapon, then it
was no enrichment, and after in this you know, hypothetical
horror show scenario where there is regime change in Iran.
Speaker 4 (39:45):
I'm sitting in Turkey right now, and I would flag.
Speaker 10 (39:48):
There was an article in the Atlantic magazine this you know,
the Jeffrey Goldberg magazine that Mike Waltz unfortunately potentially was
a a correspondent with I'm sitting here in Istanbul, and
there was an article by a gentleman named Raoul Mark
correct of the Foundation for the Defense of Democracies earlier
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this spring that argued that it's time to be looking
at Turkey. Even if the US was to give the
Hawks in Washington, the operatives within CIA, in the Deep State,
and many of our petative allies in Jerusalem what they wanted,
even if we were to give them an Iran war,
you know what would be next, the Turkey war. So
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it really is if you give a mouse a cookie,
and I think, you know, if Trump doesn't want his
legacy to be just doing the will of these people
being forgotten in American history. If he wants to have
fought for the last ten years for something more than this,
he's got to put his foot down here and that truth,
as we discussed minutes ago, is an indication that he's
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in that direction.
Speaker 2 (40:55):
Hangover saying I want you to give you social media.
Speaker 1 (40:56):
On the other side, confuse your host, Stephen Kba. I
know you've got a lot of the media to do tonight,
but thank you for saying up in the wee hours
in Constantinople.
Speaker 2 (41:11):
Kurt Mills, where do people go?
Speaker 1 (41:12):
By the way, our good friend, a guy I think
the world of Josh hampers coming after Kurtwu. We'll deal
with that, if not over the weekend early next week,
because we think a lot about Josh, and we think
the world you and Josh is saying, I don't know
you're the magazine.
Speaker 2 (41:27):
Publisher from cutter or something.
Speaker 1 (41:30):
Where do people go to get your content something can
make their own decision.
Speaker 10 (41:35):
Well, obviously Josh's claim is an abjact lie, but I'll
let him speak for himself. I'm happy to plug our stuff.
The magazine is the American Conservative. We are founded in
two thousand and two by conservatives and friends against the
Iraq War. A call I think safe to say we
got right was founded by path You, Cannon, Scott McConnell,
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and Taki, and it is ww dot the American Servative
dot com. We also have a print vertical if you
care to subscribe, and you can find my own personal stuff,
uh you know, representing the magazine at at c U
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Kurt Mills.
Speaker 1 (42:12):
Thanks Steve and and Kurt is breaking information as you
go and aggregating information about this entire situation in Persia. Kurt,
thank you so much for joining us tonight. I appreciate
you and sticking around. Let's play things are things are
heating up and not.
Speaker 2 (42:28):
In a good way. Let's go ahead play this clip
on bringing Steve Cortez.
Speaker 7 (42:32):
Sure, sir, hands up.
Speaker 11 (42:35):
I have questions for the secretary because the fact of
the matter is half a dozen criminals that you're rotating
on your.
Speaker 7 (42:52):
Doctor.
Speaker 5 (42:55):
I love.
Speaker 7 (42:57):
The ground on your back.
Speaker 1 (43:05):
Let me jump in here. QUOTEZ this whole thing about
violent criminals. And I've got a US senator that's a
senator trying to get violent and really, I don't know,
attack a cabinet member is given a press conference.
Speaker 2 (43:16):
This thing is starting to look pre Civil war, is
it not, sir?
Speaker 3 (43:20):
It looks pretty insurrection y, doesn't it. No, indeed it does.
And look, Padilla is a clown who is searching for relevance.
I think when the bad ombras of the country, including
his home state, see that tape, they're going to say,
that's a that's a pioso right there, that's a clown.
Speaker 7 (43:37):
By the way, note that he's in Los Angeles is
where that happened.
Speaker 3 (43:39):
Okay, so the biggest city in his home state, and
yet no one seemed to know who he was. That's
how unremarkable he is. In addition, of course, he did
not look and did not act the way that a
US senator should. It's also remembered, by the way, he
wasn't elected to that position. He was appointed by Gavin
Newsom to replace Kamala Harris. So talk about an awful,
unholy trinity Kamala Harris, Newsom and padea of three very
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self absorbed but.
Speaker 7 (44:05):
Totally unimpressive people.
Speaker 2 (44:07):
You know.
Speaker 3 (44:07):
But to the substance here, which I think is important,
Let's remember that only eleven months ago, Donald Trump was
shot Donald Trump bled.
Speaker 7 (44:17):
In Butler merely months ago.
Speaker 3 (44:20):
So the idea that Padia thinks that he can accost
charge the stage rant and heckle the director of the
Secretary of Homeland Security, one of the most sensitive national
security positions in the entire United States and get away.
Speaker 7 (44:34):
With it is simply ludicrous. It's a good thing that.
Speaker 3 (44:37):
Those agents acted quickly and with force, because they should.
Speaker 7 (44:40):
As a matter of.
Speaker 3 (44:40):
Fact, he's lucky that they didn't act with even more force.
You know, I mentioned the bat umbers by the way, Steve.
You know I do a lot of polling. We're in
the field right now. Polling.
Speaker 7 (44:49):
Were almost done with a poll that we started on Monday.
We've been doing all weeks.
Speaker 3 (44:52):
So we started it after the worst part of the
LA riots and after Trump and Newsomb really started going
at each other.
Speaker 7 (45:00):
And in this polling, guess what has happened so far?
Again not quite.
Speaker 3 (45:03):
Finalized, but support for mass deportations rising even further on
a national basis. Looking at all demographic groups, it's about
two to one in favor among Hispanics on a national basis,
about plus twenty in favor of mass deportations. We also
ask specifically about arresting people who who have engaged in
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violence or who are interfering with law enforcement.
Speaker 7 (45:28):
Federal law enforcement deportation operations.
Speaker 3 (45:31):
Support for those arrests and for convicting those credence. That
is about three to one overall and plus forty percent
among Hispanics. So I'll get you the final exact numbers
when we have them. But the point here is there
is a preponderance a super majority of Americans who believe
in law and order and who reject these kind of
clownish antics that are dangerous for this country, not just foolish,
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but actually dangerous.
Speaker 7 (45:55):
For this country. From people like Alex.
Speaker 1 (45:57):
Badia Steve about mass deportations. We mean mass deportations every
night now on TV. Trump lied, he just talked about criminals.
Trump never just talked about criminals. He talked, He's talked
they one about mass deportations. This gets to the situation
about agriculture. I'll do more about that tomorrow. But the
we got we got to make sure we have a
concise message and we stick to that message, particularly now
(46:20):
when it's going to this weekend, it's going to get
violent all over the country. This is spreading. Uh, what
is your what is your rejoinder to these Democrats? And
I was saying, he just said there was violent criminals,
and yet he's going in and started to port the people.
What is your response or what is your polling show?
Speaker 3 (46:35):
Sure, well, you know again the pull the polling clearly
supports mass deportations using that exact phrase. Now, in terms
of priorities, of course, you're going to get the most
dangerous people out first. Of course I support and I
think it just makes common sense to prioritize those who
just invaded under the open door of my Orcus and
Biden and Kamala Harris. That makes sense. But that doesn't
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mean that the others are excluded. That the other tens
of millions of the legal migrants who trespassed into our country,
who broke and entered into our own land, it doesn't
mean that they get to stay.
Speaker 7 (47:08):
No, not at all.
Speaker 3 (47:09):
Look, every person who came here illegally is unwelcome and
has to go.
Speaker 7 (47:15):
Now.
Speaker 3 (47:15):
I think Donald Trump has been very generous President Trump
and his administration by saying, those who self deport, we
will incentivize it for you. We will pay for your
plane ticket, we will give you a small amount of
money courtesy of the American people you can reapply. That's
incredibly magnanimous and merciful. If you choose to self deport
so that we don't have to come get you, so
that we don't have to send federal agents into dangerous situations,
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into expensive operations to find you.
Speaker 7 (47:40):
I think that's as merciful as we should get.
Speaker 3 (47:43):
Quite frankly, Steve, I think it makes sense that that incentive,
But that's to me, the limit of mercy from American
citizens toward those who broke and entered into our homeland.
Speaker 1 (47:54):
You've got documentaries that we get everything. Where do people
go for your social media and to your website?
Speaker 3 (47:58):
Yeah, please find me Cortes and Investigates dot com on Twitter.
Speaker 7 (48:02):
I'm at Cortes Steve.
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