THE WAR ROOM WITH STEPHEN K. BANNON,JUNE 16TH, 2025 (EP.#4562)

THE WAR ROOM WITH STEPHEN K. BANNON,

GUESTS:
ERIC TRUMP 
CATHARINE O'NEILL
MIKE LINDELL 
TUCKER CARLSON

 

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:08):
Woman, Why did you launch this operation now?

Speaker 2 (00:24):
Because we were facing an imminent threat, a dual existential threat. One,
the threat of Iran rushing to weaponize. They're enriched uranium
to make atomic bombs with a specific and declared intend
to destroy us. Second, a rush to increase their ballistic
missile arsenal into the capacity that they would have thirty

(00:46):
six hundred weapons a year, new weapons within three years,
ten thousand ballistic missiles, each one weighing a ton, coming
in at mock six right into our cities as you
saw today, and then in twenty and years twenty thousand.
That's a no country I can sustain that, and certainly
not a country the size of Israel.

Speaker 3 (01:06):
So we had to act. It was the twelfth hour.

Speaker 2 (01:08):
We did act to save ourselves, but also, I think
to not only protect ourselves, but protect the world from
this incendiary regime. We can't have the world's most dangerous
regime have the world's most dangerous weapons. We're protecting ourselves,
but by doing so, we're protecting many others.

Speaker 4 (01:26):
Now, we have significant military assets in the region. We
have significant military assets in every region. So the isolationists
who are peasers, who will get us all killed. They
believe we should just pull back from everywhere NATO, Europe, Africa,
Middle East.

Speaker 5 (01:42):
What are we doing there?

Speaker 4 (01:43):
We're protecting ourselves, that's what we're doing there. They're forward bases.
We have allies like Israel who are fighting wars that
really help us too.

Speaker 5 (01:52):
With a base in Qatar, Israel didn't put it there.
With a base in Iraq, Isral didn't put that one
there either.

Speaker 4 (01:59):
We have locals and bases throughout the Middle East that
have absolutely nothing to do with the State of Israel
or even defending the state of Israel.

Speaker 5 (02:06):
So what should we do? Should we withdraw?

Speaker 4 (02:10):
Say, you know what, China, North Korea, Russia, Iran, all
the terrorist groups, you can have the Middle East, you
can have the oil, you can have the navigable waters.

Speaker 5 (02:21):
We're out of here.

Speaker 4 (02:23):
Really, I'd love to see the plan of the isolationists
and the pacifists and the APPEUSA, I would love to
see it. They don't have a plan. They'll get us
all killed. So we need to protect our basis. And
so people are saying, what Israel shouldn't defend itself because
the enemy might attack some of our bases. Does that
make sense to anybody? Wouldn't it be better to take

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out the enemy?

Speaker 6 (02:47):
Nor Wow Wow.

Speaker 7 (03:08):
Tulcy Gabbert testified on Capitol Hill saying that everything had
been suspended since two thousand and three and had not restarted.
That the nuclear program had not been restarted by the Iranians.
So did something change from end of March until this week?

Speaker 1 (03:24):
Was the US intel wrong?

Speaker 2 (03:27):
The intel we got and we shared with the United
States was absolutely clear, was absolutely clear that they were
working in a secret plan to weaponize the uranium. They
were marching very quickly. They would achieve a test device
and possibly an initial device within months and certainly less
than a year. That was the intel we shared with

(03:48):
the United States. I think we have excellent intel in Iran.
I think we've proven that, and that is something that
we couldn't possibly accept, whether it would be six months
or twelve months or thirteen months as the material. Once
they go that route, it's too late and we will
not have a second Holocaust, a nuclear holocaust. We already

(04:08):
had one in the previous century. The Jewish state is
not going to have the Holocaust admitted on the Jewish people.

Speaker 8 (04:13):
It's not going to happen.

Speaker 3 (04:14):
It's never again. Is now and we have to act now.

Speaker 9 (04:17):
As President Trump said just yesterday, it's his movement.

Speaker 10 (04:21):
He helped create and shape.

Speaker 9 (04:23):
And direct the make America Great Again movement. He's the
one that's defined the contours of the America First foreign policy.
He's the one who was elected by the American people.
It's like five hundred and thirty five members of Congress
were elected by the American people to make these decisions.
Not so called influencers or podcasters. No offense, but they
don't have authority and accountability under our constitutional system. So

(04:47):
President Trump is right that he's the one that sets
the course for foreign policy. Congress has its say obviously
as well, and that we simply cannot trust the Iatolas
of Iran to have the nuclear weapons. Maybe one day
the meek will inherit the earth Mark, but until then,
the strong have to protect it. And if the lion
isn't to ever lie down with the lamb, it's still

(05:07):
much better to be the lion.

Speaker 11 (05:21):
This isn't.

Speaker 4 (05:23):
I Well, no, No, America must continue to stand behind Israel.

(05:48):
They need to finish the job. It's going to take
several weeks. Their bombs simply cannot penetrate all of these
nuclear sites with one, two, three, five runs, they need
several runs. And so that's the way it goes. They're
the ones taking the incoming. The Israeli people are paying
the price. And the Israeli people want to live in peace.
They want to be able to enjoy their parks, their playgrounds.

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They want to be able to enjoy their schools, their cafes,
their restaurants. They want to be able to go to
synagogue and church.

Speaker 5 (06:18):
They want to be.

Speaker 4 (06:19):
Able to live like free people like we do, without
a nuclear weapon pointing at their head, without ballistic missiles
pointing at their head, without looking in every direction, being
surrounded by terrorists.

Speaker 5 (06:32):
It's hard to believe than any piece of paper can
prevent that. And if you can show me any time
in world history that it has, I'd love to see it.

Speaker 4 (06:40):
I don't think the Founding fathers, as brilliant as they were,
could write a document, a document that would contain evil.

Speaker 2 (06:48):
No.

Speaker 5 (06:48):
Unfortunately, at times it takes force.

Speaker 8 (06:53):
This is the climal scream of a dyning regime.

Speaker 12 (06:58):
Pray for our enemies, because we're going to medieval on
these people.

Speaker 8 (07:03):
There's not got a free shot. All these networks lying
about the people, the people have had a belly full
of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I
know you've tried to do everything in the world to
stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's
going to happen.

Speaker 5 (07:14):
And where do people like that go to share the
big line?

Speaker 10 (07:18):
Mega media?

Speaker 8 (07:19):
I wish in my soul, I wish that any of
these people had a conscience. Ask yourself, what is my
task and what is my purpose?

Speaker 4 (07:28):
If that answer is to save my country, this country
will be saved.

Speaker 11 (07:34):
War Room, use your host, Stephen k Man.

Speaker 12 (07:42):
It's Monday, sixteen, Junie ul or twenty twenty five. I
would say since the last time we chatted at the
Great Military, the two fiftieth anniversary of the United States
Army at about eight o'clock Eastern daylight time on Saturday,
a lot of transpired.

Speaker 8 (08:01):
We're going to get to all of it today.

Speaker 12 (08:02):
We've got a very special guest that's coming in the
war room in a little while.

Speaker 8 (08:07):
I'll announce that.

Speaker 12 (08:08):
A little bit later, we're going to actually go to
Trump Tower at ten point fifteen with Don Junior and
Eric a big announcement from the Trump Organization. Our own
chain circle is there. David zears there. It's ten years after.
Yesterday was the tenth anniversary of President Trump coming down
the Golden Escalator and changing the arc of American history.

(08:31):
Remember General Washington was here for the birth of the nation.
Father Abraham Lincoln was here for the rebirth of the nation.
And President Trump's here for the reclamation of the nation
and return to her former greatness. Those three of the
three most important presidents leaders as nations have overhead in

(08:53):
President Trump's arrival on the scene ten years ago. Remember,
at the top of the escalator, President Trump was in
seventh place I think polling it o, I don't know,
three and a half four percent. He had just gone
to Seapac I think ninety days beforehand roughly, and finished
I think seventh at three and a half percent.

Speaker 8 (09:10):
That was at the top of the escalator.

Speaker 12 (09:12):
After the amazing talk to the American people remarks he
made to the American people to kick off his campaign,
he sprinted to number one on the flash polls that
were done and never looked back. I think the closest
was that doctor Ben Carson came a little bit close
to actually tying him, But besides that, it was President

(09:32):
Trump the entire way which is pretty extraordinary.

Speaker 8 (09:35):
Why did that happen?

Speaker 12 (09:37):
President Trump talked to the American people in a very
straightforward vernacular, very straightforward, no political talk. He talked from
the heart and from the head. What did he talk about.
We had to have sovereignty, We had to have a border.
We couldn't allow the country to be overrun by illegal
alien invaders. Right that, we had to stand up to

(09:57):
China and started to bring manufacturing jobs back.

Speaker 8 (10:01):
And we had to end forever Wars. Remember those three things.

Speaker 12 (10:04):
I think that's kind of the platform for MAGA for
America person for the Mega movement. It is get out
of Forever Wars, no more forever Wars. Immigration, We're gonna
get sovereignty back. We're going to seal our borders. We're
gonna make sure the only people come in the country
are people we want to come in the country.

Speaker 8 (10:23):
And we're going to.

Speaker 12 (10:23):
Deport people there here illegally, in other words, people that
did not come through the process and are not actually
American citizens. Also, we're gonna set things right with the
Chinese Counties Party and with China. We're going to bring
manufacturing jobs back to the United States of America. Oh
and we're going to the deep side. There's many other
corollaries of that and things, but that's the three.

Speaker 8 (10:44):
That's a big three.

Speaker 12 (10:45):
And Mark Levin is, you know, one of the most
brilliant guys who ever met about the Constitution. I think Mark,
when we talk about evil and we got to slay evil,
and we got to do this with evil. The Founding
Fathers and the Revolutionary generation had a pretty good I
think it was General Washington. Don't go overseas looking for
monsters to slay. There's unlimited you know, with since the

(11:10):
Fall in the Garden, right of eden Man's descent right
into kind of depravity, there's plenty of evil in the world.
I would actually say that you can't compare the Moulahs
as bad as they are right to the Chinese Communist Party,
and yet we're business philosophy has a pardoned with the

(11:31):
Chinese comumtis at least on Wall Street and tech. But
I just want to make sure that and I want
to play the BB thing. Can I play BB's laid
it out? Well, we'll play a little bit later in
the show, he said, And this was Brent Baar just
asked a question, didn't ask a follow on after that,
but he said Taulsea Gabbert said in March right in

(11:53):
front of the I think it was Senate Intelligence Committee,
there's been no change to to the weapons of mass
destructure of the new weapons program by the MULAS. Nothing
had changed, It hadn't restarted it, and it wasn't going
where President Trump had a negotiating team that was negotiating
supposed to be a muscot Oman on Sunday. So what changed?

(12:14):
When al BB tells us two things? They had tremendous
intelligence that they shared with us. Everything that's been reported
by the wall Stree Journal, New York Times is that
we actually gave them intelligence that was exquisite. But we
haven't heard anything that countered. No one's come out and
said we've seen anything that counted Tulsa Gabber, which she
said publicly, that hasn't been brought out.

Speaker 8 (12:36):
And what did Netnya who say?

Speaker 12 (12:39):
Netanya who said, oh, there, you know it's ballistic missiles
now and they're running to get a weapon, and they're
going to get a weapon. It's and I'm quoting him
twelve to thirteen months away. So what initiated this? Why
did this have to happen now? Why did you Why
did they decide to go on a unilateral decision that
immediately depended upon on American air defense?

Speaker 3 (13:02):
Right?

Speaker 12 (13:02):
And since they've now and I'm just going Summer four
in the New York Times and many other sources, it
really is not a decapitation of the scientific and the
nuclear power, but it's actually a decapitation of the regime.
In fact, President Trump had a step in and said, no,
I don't want the Ietola assassinated, right, I don't even
assassinate it. What drove this now and was it straightforward?

(13:29):
Did you tell the United States that you were going
to try to decap decapitate the actual leadership of the country,
including all of its military command, things unrelated to its
nuclear weapons program.

Speaker 8 (13:42):
Israel is a sovereign nation.

Speaker 12 (13:44):
I'm a big supporter of visual, big support of nationalism.

Speaker 8 (13:48):
It's a sovereign nation.

Speaker 12 (13:49):
It has to make decisions that are right for it,
as it should, as all nations on Earth should do.
But when you start making decisions that are predicated upon
the assumption that America is going to come in not
just for defense but for offense. Because the same crowded
Fox all weekend has been sounding the war toxins.

Speaker 8 (14:09):
America's got to go on offense. We have to go
on offense. We have to support.

Speaker 12 (14:13):
We've got the equipment, We've got the pilots, we have
the refueling. We have to help them take out Ford
or the second and the most you know, the one
that's more secure in the mountain side.

Speaker 8 (14:24):
We have to be there now.

Speaker 12 (14:26):
We have to make decisions that put America first. This
has to be thought through. This Pearl Harbor type attack
on the Mulas is fined for Israel, but is right
for the United States when we have ten million illegal
alien vaders just on Biden's watch in the United States,
particularly in our major cities, which President Trump comes out

(14:48):
last night and says We're going to double and triple
down to get them out. That's the war we face.
Short commercial break, going to Trump Tower.

Speaker 11 (14:56):
Next America.

Speaker 4 (15:15):
God's gin Away.

Speaker 11 (15:24):
She's Gone. Was one.

Speaker 12 (15:40):
Welcome back ten years after one of the most monumental
events in American political history. As I said at the
top of the show, You've had General Washington at the
Birth of the Nation, Father Abraham Lincoln at the rebirth
of the Nation, and Donald John Trump at the Reclamation
of the Nation.

Speaker 8 (15:57):
The three greatest.

Speaker 12 (15:58):
Presidents of this nation has ever had, and a man
who has risen above all personal imperfections, because we're all imperfect,
to reveal true greatness and what greatness is, particularly in
the cauldron of having to make decisions as commander in chief,
as the chief executive officer of the United States Government,
and as chief magistrate and treat chief law enforcement officer.

(16:19):
No individual in the history of this country. When the
election of twenty twenty was stolen, he went back to
mar Lago in those months, those three four or five
six months, when he knew that if he was to
return and really set things right of the stolen election
from the illegitimate Biden regime, they would try to destroy
his family, destroy his business, bankrupt him, smear him, put

(16:39):
him in prison, and eventually try to assassinate him. You
talk about John Kennedy's profiles in Courage, Read the entire book,
read it twice. You can add it all up and
triple it, and you will never see a profile and
courage of what President Trump did in those actions to
come back and say I've got to set things right.
Like I say, He's the American Cincinnatus, like the great

(17:00):
Roman general return from his plow to save the Roman Republic.
President of Trump returned from mar Lago to save the
American Republican.

Speaker 8 (17:06):
We're in it now.

Speaker 12 (17:08):
These ten years, the triumphs and the tragedies, the highs
and the lows, the victories and the defeats, are only
a preamble for what's happening now, because now we're in it.
Honored to have Eric Trump join us. Eric at the
top of the escalator, I know you guys had talked
to your father, had talked it through. Did you ever
think in a billion years that this journey would turn

(17:31):
out like it has so far?

Speaker 13 (17:32):
Sir, We'll see those beautiful open and no, not in
our wildest dreams. Actually started about two days before that
escalator ride. My father called us all into his office.
Some of his office is actually literally ten feet above
my head right now, I'm in Trump Tower, and he
called us up there and he goes, you know, kids,
I'm going to do this. Let's do it, and by
let's everything we had ever done we had always done

(17:53):
as a family, and we didn't done the apprentice, we
did the real estate thing. Everything we had always done,
we'd always fought together as a family, and he goes,
you know, we're going to get hit harder than you've
ever possibly imagined. They're going to attack us in ways
that we can't even fathom, and we're going to learn
who our true friends were. And I'll never forget those words,
and I've uttered them many times, but I mean, the
intuition of the man was incredible, and sure enough, two

(18:14):
three days later, he comes down that escalator and the
rest is history. They tried to impeach him twice. They
took out you know, they try went after a Supreme.

Speaker 10 (18:21):
Court justices ruthlessly.

Speaker 13 (18:23):
They the Russia hoax, which you've talked about more than anyone, Steve,
the dirty Dossier's, the subpoenas. I mean, I became the
most pointed person arguably in American history, as a way
to get to my father. Right, they couldn't get him
in the executive branch of what did they do? They
came after me like I was a dog. They tried
to bankrupt our company. They tried to put us out

(18:44):
of business. They tried to take him off the ballot
in Colorado obviously in Maine, right, I mean, they took
away his free speech, They took him off of Twitter,
and Instagram and Facebook. They literally tried to deprive him
of his First Amendment right. They tried to kill him twice,
quinc And then they had every single ultra left wing

(19:04):
you know, AG and DA in this country prosecute the
hell out of him for doing absolutely nothing wrong whatsoever.
And despite that, he gets off that stage. He puts
his hand in the air with blood coming down his face,
and plenty of other times where it wasn't blood, but
you know, he was battered and bros. And he goes,
we're going to fight, and we're never ever going to stop,

(19:25):
and we're going to fight for this nation and we're
going to get our country.

Speaker 10 (19:27):
Back on track.

Speaker 13 (19:28):
He's the toughest guy I've ever met my life. He's
the greatest father you could have ever had as a person,
and I am I'm so honored. I was probably the
first person on that stage with him right when he
came down that escalator. There were very few Steve at
the time, you know that, And by the way, even
the ones that were, most of them deserted us. In
the kind of twenty twenty one years, I've never been
more proud to be by somebody's side, to stand on

(19:50):
this stage to fight with a man, and look what
he's done for our country. Look what he's done for
modern politics. He's become the greatest runn hunter in the
history of the world. I mean, the neocons of the
Republican Party are all extinct. And you look at the
cabinet that we have now. You look at the way
that they're fighting, you look at the things that they
believe in, you look at the things that they're doing.

(20:13):
Republicans ten years ago would have thought that none of
it was possible because they had lost hope.

Speaker 10 (20:18):
And we're going to be a better nation for it.

Speaker 13 (20:19):
So incredibly proud of him, incredibly proud of this journey
and special with Special Day.

Speaker 12 (20:26):
We lost hope because the Republican Party had been part
of the problem, the controlled opposition. We didn't have a leader,
We didn't have a leader that had the moral qualities
of your fathers, and we didn't have a family that
would not shatter. You guys have gone through the cauldron
of this. A huge announcement today in Trump Tower on
the tenth anniversary. Walkers, You guys are developing into many,

(20:46):
many different business lines. Talk to me about this huge
announcement today, Sir Well Steve.

Speaker 13 (20:51):
Over the last couple of years, we got into really
kind of the digital space, right, the technology space.

Speaker 10 (20:56):
We had to do that. We developed truth socially.

Speaker 13 (20:58):
You know why, because they literally shut down our ability
to communicate through censorship, right through taking away my father's
first Amendment right. And so we've developed truth social which
allowed us to communicate to the entire country. And it
was incredibly successful. Sure enough you as a guy who
runs the Trump organization, all of a sudden, they started
deplatforming us, debanking us. The biggest banks in this country
came after.

Speaker 10 (21:18):
US, sent us letters.

Speaker 13 (21:19):
We had perfect track record, never any problems, had great
relationships for thirty years. Sorry, we're canceling all of your
bank accounts. The biggest buildings, the biggest hotels, golf courses
gone because they didn't like the fact that, you know,
the ultimate owner war hat that said make America great
again and was read. And today we started trum Mobile,
which is going to revolutionize the cell phone industry. And

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it's going to really shake up the cell phone industry.
They've done a terrible job. It's become too expensive, everything's overseas.
We want out product that's made in America. For Americans.
We want customer service to be in the United States
of America, and we're going to bring it back, and
we're going to massively disrupt the industry.

Speaker 10 (21:59):
And I've never been more excited.

Speaker 13 (22:00):
So when you combine kind of the cryptocurrencies to again,
you know, take on the big banks that otherwise deplatformed US,
and those ventures are going so well. When you take
on again these voice boxes that we have to counter
the attacks on our First Amendment right as Americans. Uh,
and then obviously when you take the hard tangible product,
I think where we're creating technology company and as a

(22:22):
branch to the Trump organization that I think is really
going to be second to none.

Speaker 12 (22:26):
Now, are you going to oversee this? Are you going
to oversee this venture?

Speaker 10 (22:31):
Yeah?

Speaker 13 (22:31):
Well, we have wonderful partners, partners that have built some
of the biggest cell phone companies. You know in our nation.
You would know the names of every single one of them.
And so I'm obviously I'm very involved. I'm very into it.
I love the notion of doing this. I love security
benefits because listen, Steve, neither you nor I trust talking
on our cell phones at any point, and so that's
that's something seriously, where where we're going to, Where we're

(22:53):
going to seriously you know, be running toward and in
the coming months, in years because that and then you know,
forty seven dollars a month, you've got you know, free calling,
unlimited calling, unlimited text to over one hundred countries around
the world.

Speaker 10 (23:07):
We're really really doing this right.

Speaker 13 (23:09):
And guess what, when you call up because you need
service on your cell phone you want to adjust your plan,
you're calling somebody in Saint Louis, Missouri. You're not calling
somebody in Bangladesh. You're not calling somebody in you know,
in India. You're calling somebody in our country. And I
think that's also really important from a security standpoint. I mean,
there's not a week that goes by where there's not
another data breach because one of these call center sells,
you know, people's personal information. And we saw that last

(23:30):
week with a major US company. And so we're incredibly
proud of what we're creating, and we're doing it right,
and it's a made in American product for Americans, and
you know, we're honored to be doing it.

Speaker 3 (23:41):
Eric.

Speaker 12 (23:41):
Where do people go today to find out more information
about this? They what's the social media. They have a
landing parent or a website.

Speaker 13 (23:47):
Very simple, Trump mobile dot com, Trump mobile dot com.
And the phones are beautiful. We even have a limited
edition phone that's a polished gold, which is kind of
meaningful to the whole escalator eye. I didn't you know
everything that kind of we stand for. But obviously you
can get a SIM cards. So if you want to
get on the Trump lan literally go on Trump Mobile,

(24:07):
get an a SIM card. You can convert your existing
phone over instantaneously. It's really an easy processes. So we
can't wait to on board a lot of people. And
you know, we're going to protect people and we're going
to I think we're going to change really change the
industry in major, major ways, and we're very excited to
be in the space.

Speaker 12 (24:28):
Fantastic. By the way, the gold phone is on brand
real quickly. I would love to have you come back also,
war room myself. All the people close President up are
all deep bank credit cards cut, sometimes even insurance trying
to be cut. I'd love to have you back on
and spend a little time to walk through that. I
don't think even MAGA understands what they try to do
to President Trump to bankrupt you guys and cut you

(24:49):
off from all lines of credit and cash and even
to get your own bank account.

Speaker 8 (24:53):
That's a story that's not been told.

Speaker 12 (24:54):
Also, the war room posse loves your wife, loves the show,
and they under regards Eric.

Speaker 10 (25:01):
What's your social media? People would absolutely love.

Speaker 8 (25:04):
People catch Trump.

Speaker 13 (25:06):
At Eric Trump on every single one of the handles,
obviously X, Instagram and Facebook and love social media. It's
our way of beating back on the unfair media. And
it's worked. You know, Steve, We've won the battle. We've
really won the battle. We'll continue to win the battle,
but we've won the battle and honored so and thanks
for all your support. You've been true kind of champion.

Speaker 10 (25:25):
In this war.

Speaker 13 (25:26):
And they didn't let you get pushed around, and you
fought like hell against the most unfair people in the universe.

Speaker 5 (25:32):
And the world.

Speaker 13 (25:33):
And we're back on top of my friend, and we
appreciate you very much.

Speaker 8 (25:38):
Thank you, brother, I appreciate you.

Speaker 12 (25:39):
The battle hardened Trump family announces Trump Mobile today.

Speaker 8 (25:42):
Thank you for so much, sir.

Speaker 12 (25:43):
Let's get it up Grayce and Mo if you can
push it out in social media everywhere so people know
where to go. Eric Trump Lara Trump that her show
on Saturday, I think are showing Saturday's doing two and
a half million people on a Saturday night.

Speaker 8 (25:55):
Pretty impressive.

Speaker 12 (25:57):
A woman that's got smart, tough, and a little quality
lacking in the modern world. She has class for a class,
A very nice A lot of discernment. Okay, we've got
a lot going on. We've got special guests in the
second hour. We're lating things up here. The big war
is the war here. The number one priority. We cannot

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take our eye off it for anything. That is the
ceiling of the border and the deportation of a minimum
of ten million illegal alien evadors here on Biden's watch.

Speaker 8 (26:31):
Much more to do there.

Speaker 12 (26:32):
But the President last night reiterated he's doubling and tripling
down on ice raids in sanctuary cities. Also with some confusion,
I think about agricultural workers, all of it. President Trump
came out shortly the aftert saiday, twenty.

Speaker 8 (26:46):
Million illegal aliens.

Speaker 12 (26:48):
I think his numbers are probably more accurate than mine. Right,
gotta go, and they're going to go short. Break back
in the warm in a moment.

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We actually put on a party afterwards, a Butterworths or threem.
I was a no show. I just I said, Hey,
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Then back back then back during the wee in the
morning yesterday morning, and then I was trying to get
back here earlier yesterday, but American Airlines had some other plants.
Great ug a great panel down there, great panel discussion.

Speaker 8 (30:48):
Thank you, you're good. You ready now?

Speaker 12 (30:50):
I got about ten things and we yell at you
ad after the show. Start with the merch site. Now
I'll wait on that, wait on that, to get on
top of you and grace. You guys doing a great job.
Katherine O'Neil joins us. Catherine. You know, Catherine, you ran
a little hot in the sixteen campaign. You ran a
little you know over the State Department. They were trying

(31:12):
to bounce you out all the time because you were
an advocate.

Speaker 8 (31:14):
I think it was religious.

Speaker 12 (31:15):
Freedom right, and then at the White House and then
on the second campaign, you've been to Maga Trump Hoplight
for a long time.

Speaker 8 (31:24):
You've been running a business.

Speaker 12 (31:25):
You decided, Hey, I'm going to be an entrepreneur like
Tage Gill and others we know Trevor Constock, people that
are MAGA or Make America Healthy Again that have decided, Hey,
the way we're going to build this, Like Eric Trump
said today with their new adventure.

Speaker 8 (31:38):
You know, Eric's not really in politics.

Speaker 12 (31:39):
He's an advisor to his dad, but he spends his
time building building businesses. But over the weekend you kind
of took a look at your business and you took
umbrage with something that was coming out from the administration.

Speaker 8 (31:51):
And I think it's been reversed already.

Speaker 12 (31:54):
Walk me through, because this tweet you put up, ma'am,
has I think four million hits on it.

Speaker 8 (31:59):
What did you say?

Speaker 12 (32:00):
And if we can get the tweet up, tell me
what was in that tweet that got you know, made
a go megaviral, ma'am.

Speaker 15 (32:07):
Yeah, Steve, so you know, I'm the CEO of Merriweather
Farms and as you know, the war and posse has
been very supportive of US. And what happened over the
weekend is that the Trump administration issue to a stop
order on the ice raids for hotels, farms, meat packing plants,
et cetera. Because a lot of these big corporations, these

(32:30):
big food corporations, hire and exploit illegal labor. And I
just wanted to make it clear that we at Merriweather Farms,
all of our employees are US citizens and we are
we can make an example that farmers can do it
without exploiting illegal labor, and meat packing plants can do
it without exploiting illegal labor. So I wanted to make

(32:53):
that point clear to the country.

Speaker 8 (32:58):
DC Drno's got up. We got a post up to
have a big AG.

Speaker 12 (33:01):
He says, Big AGA pays the illegal aliens on like
twenty thousand bucks a year, right, and that leads to
the schools being destroyed, the health services being destroyed, the
communities being destroyed, law and order in which big AG
doesn't pick up any of the tab for that.

Speaker 8 (33:16):
Is that correct?

Speaker 15 (33:17):
Absolutely no, Because typically schools are funded through property taxes.
So if they're not paying property taxes, they're not contributing
to the school system, so they're allowed to hire you know,
these individuals at slave wages, while people like us who
do it the right way, we pay, Like I said
in my tweet, we pay all of our full time

(33:39):
employees have full health care period, end of story, which
is unusual for a company like us. But you know,
we're blessed and we're vertically integrated, so we're able to
do that. And I don't expect everyone to do that,
but we've made a point to do it ourselves. And
so why is it that these big multinational corporations are
paying these individuals slave wages. Well, we're doing the right

(34:02):
thing as Americans.

Speaker 12 (34:06):
Where do people go to find out more about this
and more about your thoughts on this, because this is
a direct response for not doing the raids at agriculture,
at hotels, at all of it. You respond, and of
course MAGA wants it to go. Now, the President put
out something he's on triple down on ice raids in
the inner cities to get the sanctuary cities. I know
you're you're a big advocate of doing all of it.
Where do people go right now? In your social media?

Speaker 15 (34:28):
Yeah, you can follow us at Merriweather Farms. You know,
I when you're running a business, you don't really have
time to tweet and to put things out, but you know,
and I'm a mother too, so that's my first priority.
But I figured, you know, we need clear voices in
this space, and we need clear examples of how to

(34:49):
do it the right way. And I hope that my company,
Merriweather Farms, can lead the example for others in the industry.
So find us at Merriweather Farms. We're on Twitter, we're
on Getter, We're on Facebook, on Instagram, all the socials,
and then we're also offering a special today if you
go to our website. You guys always off ask for
the burger blowout, So go to our website Meriweatherfarms dot

(35:11):
com and you'll see it right on the homepage.

Speaker 12 (35:14):
You have turned to an entrepreneur. You sit there, you're
ripping on them from not doing the rage. You're saying, Hey,
I'm giving them healthcare, I'm paying them a decent wage,
and here's how you buy my beef. Katherine O'Neil, you're
a warrior. You've been with us from the beginning. President
Trump I know loves you. Thank you so much. Appreciate
your man.

Speaker 15 (35:29):
Thanks Steve, have a great day.

Speaker 8 (35:32):
What a day I've got.

Speaker 12 (35:33):
We've got Eric Trump and now we've got d Tucker
Carlson in the war room.

Speaker 8 (35:39):
Brother, thank you, it's good to see you.

Speaker 12 (35:41):
This is, by the way, you were here years ago,
Andrew Bryport. When Andrew Braiport lived here, you were up at.

Speaker 8 (35:46):
The top I was doing today it opened, and yes,
it looks exactly the same. I can't believe you're still here.
I mean those fifteen years.

Speaker 12 (35:54):
Anyway, fifteen years to twenty even fourteen years going on
fifteen to ten. What I know since you left DC,
you're very hesitant to spend a lot of time here. Yes,
you're this is not your favorite town anymore.

Speaker 8 (36:07):
I spent my whole life here. I have family here,
I have close family here, so I come back to
see them and not not very often. Why are you
in town? You're gonna spend a couple of days in town,
which is quite I'm interviewing various people. The president's gone,
but I'm seeing a bunch of people, and you know,
there's a lot going on, and I feel like there
aren't many people representing the Hey, let's have less violence

(36:30):
and focus on America's side of things. So it's worth
coming just to say that out loud. Of course you're
hated for it. It's crazy how the people who are
against killing are the criminals all of a sudden. It's wild.
And I thought the other day this is accelerating. And
I was hearing all this, you know, going to war
with Iran, and I was at party and was like, oh,

(36:51):
I'm not really gonna do that. After we have this election.
Who's or point was, Hey, can we just pay attention
to this amazing nation that we have that's suffering and
people are taking loans out to buy groceries, and like,
we need attention and money.

Speaker 12 (37:07):
And micro payments they buy now and they paid. Micro
payments are for timebo.

Speaker 8 (37:11):
For food, but hey, let's pay for somebody else's missile defense. No,
so I start to think. I start to hear this
stuff and I'm like, this can't be real. But that
it becomes obvious to me that it is real, and
I think that is the last conversation I want to
be part of. I have zero interest in this conversation
at all. I know it's all downside for me. It's

(37:32):
like I'm going to get you know, rich, and make
more friends, trying to stop. Why is the argument that
you're making.

Speaker 12 (37:40):
I'm making a slightly different argument, but it's trinity to
why are you being vilified? So maybe we just had
Tom Cott, we played clips of where he got here.
We had Mark Levin, Tom Cotton, and we had baby
Bibe said last night to Brent Bear, Oh, it's twelve
to thirteen months away from you know, we're there. Was
supposed the bomb is supposed to be on Friday or Saturday.
Now he's telling Brent Bear on Onday. Really we got intelligence,

(38:01):
but it's twelve to thirteen months away, which is something
they've been saying forever.

Speaker 8 (38:05):
Wh how funny that Bebe's more honest about it than
than his water carriers here in the United States, Like
you would never get Berry Wise or Tom Cotton to
admit that, well, Tom Cotton took a shot. They said that,
you know he's met a BB. Now BB's no, no, no,
he took a shot. He took it. He took a shot.

Speaker 12 (38:22):
The same podcasters and influencers, right, or don't have the
accountability the responsibility here?

Speaker 8 (38:27):
You know, yes, I really try. I've spent a lot
of my life being cruel and really cruel, and I'll
have to answer for that someday and at times to soon.
What do you mean cruel just going in thin people
those weaknesses. No, that's my instinct always. I mean, I
grew up as a debater, and I'm nasty in some ways.
And so I look at some of the players in

(38:48):
this whom I've known since they got to Washington since again,
I'm from here at breakfast the Menchro Paul Club this
morning alone, and uh, you know, it's like my city, right,
my dad worked for the government. This is where we're from.
And and I look at these people who I've known
since they you know, came in from the provinces, including
the senator you mentioned, who's from state I used to
live in. And you know, you could really be mean

(39:10):
about it, and they are mean. You know, they've attacked
my family and all this stuff a lot. But I'm
trying not to respond that way. My interest is really simple.
I don't want the United States I meshed in another
Middle Eastern war that doesn't serve our interests. I saw
that last time I covered that war. I had a
friend killed in that war.

Speaker 12 (39:28):
Talk about Iraq, because Iraq is saying some of the
same voices that the Fox platform.

Speaker 8 (39:32):
Who was so you know, the Fox platform is just
it's so disgraceful. What's you know, there's so many good
people at Fox. I work for the Murdocks for you know,
all in over twenty years. I always like them. I
like them now I'm not attacking them personally. And tons
of people at Fox are my friends. And there's a
lot about Fox that I love. And they were kind
to me always, even when they fired me, they were nice.
I just want to say that. But the one theme

(39:55):
that runs longitudinally through the history of Fox is the
promotion of wars that don't helped the United States. And
I know why is that its the owners are committed
to that vision and they are elaborately polite and nice people,
you know them, Rupert and Lachlan. I mean, they were
sitting here, there's no chance you wouldn't like them. And
they're interesting and they're smart in there, just nice. They're

(40:17):
super nice. But we disagree fundamentally on that. And the
clause really come out at moments like this. You know,
most of the time it's you know, it's fine, but
when it really comes down, when it's a question of
whether US military power will be exerted, on behalf of
a foreign country thousands of miles from here. They are
all in and anyone who stands the way will be destroyed.
I don't think it's personal. By the way, I like

(40:39):
Tom Cotton, I always like Barry Weiss Berry West, very
charming person. I like all these people. I always like
Mark Levin, like I got along with him. I mean
he's blow hard, sad personal life and all that. But
I was never met at Mark Levin or Hannity or
I like him brand constitutional guy. Yeah, there are great
things about all these people. I don't think they hate
me personally. They know I'm not working for guitar, though

(41:02):
I feel like maybe I should be working for guitar,
Like what the hell at this point, I've never taken
a dime from any foreign country or anybody. Actually.

Speaker 12 (41:09):
In fact, you just bought out I think it was
announced you bought out your investors.

Speaker 8 (41:12):
They're not a money guy. I mean they're projecting. If
you could see my house, like I've made more money
than I deserve, but I've not gotten rich and I
don't live like a rich person. Everyone knows that their
money people. That's why they're projecting. Or they're people with
opaque motives. My motives are I'm like autistic about my
whole life. I just I'm totally happy to tell you
why I'm doing what I'm doing, and I want to

(41:34):
be transparent, and I think pretty much I am. They're
the ones who have these weird, complex motives, and so
they project onto everyone else the same. Oh you're getting
paid by somebody, You're not sincere. You don't really think
that you're saying it in order to get clicks or
it's also dumb, and in my case, I'm true. You
may dislike my views, and you may have good reason

(41:54):
to dislike my views, and I understand that, but they're
totally sincere. Anyway, in a moment like this is to
go low and to note that a lot of the
people pushing for this stuff have really empty, tormented personal lives,
that's true of many in Washington, and that this is
a way to kind of feel powerful. I mean, nothing
makes you feel more powerful than killing other people. That's

(42:17):
the ultimate power. And we talk so much about money
and sex, and those are drivers of human behavior. Of course,
those are powerful impulses in people to accumulate more of both,
but really the ultimate power, the Promethean power. The core
power is the power to kill. And when you deny
that to people, or you seek to deny that to people,
or you raise the point that actually you can't kill people,

(42:40):
and that when you do, you will suffer for that,
as you said the other day, And I just I
love to die. Meditated on it in that moment in Matthew.
And it's not just in Matthew, it's and John. It's
in a number of gospels where Jesus scolds Peter for
raising the sword in his defense. They're hauling off Jesus
to torture him to death for no reason. Oh, and
it was healed people and his closest disciples seeks to

(43:03):
defend him with violence, and Jesus scolds him and then
gets hauled off to him.

Speaker 12 (43:07):
By the way, they could have made a break, They
would have stood up, and Jesus wouldn't have been seized,
and it had all gone on. But he told him
right there, lived by the sword, dive.

Speaker 8 (43:15):
By, and he scolds him. It's unbelievable. He's mad at Peter.
It's just incredible. Anyway, whether or not you believe in Christianity,
whether or not you're a Christian, it doesn't matter. It
is true that people who espouse violence suffer in the end.

(43:35):
They do. I have seen it a lot, and I
grew up in a world that have espoused violence. That's
what the US government does. My dad was involved in it,
and I just believe that. And maybe you don't believe that.
That's fine. That is my core belief. I sincerely think that.
But why the hate towards someone is just like, hey,
I'm not hard if you think, and I said this

(43:56):
to it is really official. If you think I'm anti Israel, man,
you are your blooks the plots on. If you think
I'm your enemy, not at all. I like Israel. Are
you kidding? I've spent a lot of time there. I
continue to like it. I pray that Jerusalem is not damaged.
I feel so sad for the Israelis who've been killed

(44:16):
in the last couple of days and the Iranians who've
been killed in the last couple of days. We had
nothing to do with any of this. But the point
is if you think that saying, hey, let's focus on
my country where I was born, where my family's been
for hundreds of years. That was the promise of the
last election please do it. If you think that's hate,

(44:36):
you know, you've really lost perspective, I guess, is what
I would say. But they do think it's hate, and
I and what's happened is what I knew what happened,
which is just like, oh, a tax I don't want
to deal with that are affecting personal friendships that I
care about. The vicious and the dishonesty is almost unbelievable. Anyway,
not to whine. I never whine about stuff like that.

(44:58):
It's just that I knew this was going to happen.
I didn't want to talk about it at all. I'd
much rather talk about immigration. I'd much rather talk about
keeping the dollar stores out of rural America. They're all
kinds of much rather talk about people taking out loans
to buy groceries. These are the declining life expectancy in
this country. Fentanyl. I mean, someone else I know just
died of fentanyl last week. It's like all of that

(45:19):
is now ignored because a leader of a country who
does not have a majority support in that country, probably
thirty percent support, wants a course of action that includes
the United States. And I just disagree. And anyway, I
think it's going to happen. I don't you know who
cares what you think that? Do you think we're enjoining
the combat offensive combat up? Well, we have to. We

(45:40):
have to. We can't see never the product of like,
look we have the stuff. You've actually helped run the governments.
I don't need to tell you. You've been there. Decisions like
this are never explicitly made. They just sort of happen, yes,
sort of like living with your girlfriend, like you you know,
you wake up hungover one morning and she's there, and
then she just kind of doesn't leave, and then next
thing you know, you can't married, nap kids Like That's

(46:01):
how most people make decisions, just sort of on the
basis of facts on the ground. And these things move
inexorably toward what they're moving to now, which is full
scale war that includes lots of other countries, either explicitly
or not. But the effect is the same. It's a
world war. It's a war in which the world is participating.

Speaker 12 (46:20):
Well, I think we're in the kinetic park from Ukraine.
But today they just move the carry battlegroup from the
South China Sea. The Nimits is heading toward the North
Arabian Sea. So they've got the tankers have flown over there,
so we're pre positioning the assets, of course, to get involved.

Speaker 8 (46:36):
And you think that this is going to happen. There's
no way we can stop It's two. I mean, I
think there are ways to stop it. Oh, you are
such a nice person. Sorry, I needed the sacred beverage. No,
of course, there are ways to stop it. It's just
that unless you take it's like gaining weight, which I've
lived with. It's like, unless you are a crazy person

(46:57):
devoted to being thin, you will get fatter in your fifties. Like,
you have to take active steps to prevent the inevitable,
something that is inevitable otherwise, and in this case, what's
inevitable absent those active monomoniacal steps towards preventing it is
is a much large word. It's too easy to pull
the United States into we have too many assets in

(47:18):
that region, We're too dependent on the energy from that
region international markets. So I mean, there's so many things
that could go wrong. Actually is horrifying as the lat
the exchange between Israel and Iran has been horrifying in
the sense that innocence have died, which let me remind
you is horrifying always and everywhere. No tell me, we
have to hit Tyran's got hit. Civilians are dead in
both places, And if we don't think that that's sad,

(47:41):
then we're not fully human. Like you have to believe
that's said, and you have to really mean it, whether
or not. You know, you can hate the Iranian government.
I'm not for the Iranian government. But if you don't
see the death of innocence anywhere is sad, then you
are gravely diminished, certainly as a Christian whatever. But there
are so many ways to pull the United States into this,

(48:05):
and the incentives to pull the US in are so profound.
I guess if I could just say one political thing,
the watching Donald Trump, who, of course you know very
well who I think at core is sincere about peace time, Yeah,
big time, big time. I mean that's that's real, watching
him done so wrong. The lies, Oh he knew all along.

(48:30):
You know that the peace process was faked. Steve Wikoff
was playing a lot. That is a lie. That's a lot.
I know, that's a lot. Those guys meant it. It's
a total lie. And all these people that that Mark
Levin and all of the minions who are running cover
for a foreign government. They're all telling that same why.

(48:51):
And I just I feel for President Trump and I
think I don't know this, I'm just guessing, but at
this point I feel like he just has to kind
of roll with it. You know, what do you say?
You dont want to get an argument about that right
in the middle of a war.

Speaker 3 (49:02):
No.

Speaker 12 (49:02):
I think he reiterated last night that we got to
get back to the peace part. They got laid down,
They go crying about him.

Speaker 8 (49:08):
He's sincerely even now, he sincerely believes whether he's writer
or not, I can't say, but that this could be
a predicate to a peace deal. What we're seeing now,
he really thinks that and wants that. And the other
side is just like, no, we a peace deal. It's
the other side. But the other side also has the
apparatus here. This is what happened when Ukraine attacked. When

(49:31):
Ukraine attack, we still haven't asked Ratcliffe was the CI
involved that the zero probability Ukraine could attack out deep
into rush ox with without without some involvement here the
exact same thing. Why was Taucy Gabrett not invited to
the camp David meeting all day.

Speaker 12 (49:45):
You know what why Tausy Gabrett still to the American public,
has said the last public statement is that the program
was not back up and running.

Speaker 8 (49:55):
And now we have from from.

Speaker 12 (49:56):
Bibie by himself on Fox by Brent bhar that the
thing was twelve to thirteen months away. It wasn't this weekend.
I know now, and this is by his own thing,
And we also know that it was a decampitition. As
we said on Friday, it wasn't just about the nuclear program.
It's a decapitation of total leadership. So this is a
total regime change, which, by the way, you may have
a plan for regime change, is fine, but you've got

(50:17):
to bring the American people on.

Speaker 8 (50:18):
Let me go back by the way, I said that
publicly last week. This is the point of this is
regime change. I know everyone involved. I know I'm telling
the truth. I have no weird motive here at all.
Don't hate Israel. I'm not. Once you know the players
and you and we know the Iraq situation. This isn't
a regime change effort, and why not just say that?
But oh, you're a holocaust and I are for saying that.

(50:40):
Stop let's have a rational conversation about what our aims
are here, and maybe you can convince me that we
need to support a regime change war in Irun. Tell
me how that plays out in a country of ninety
million people. Have you thought it through? Do you even care?
And the answer is no. We have a economic and
political and demographic crisis in Europe because of US backed

(51:03):
Israel backed Syria wars in the Middle East. That's what's
destroyed Europe, where my ancestors came from. And I spend
a lot of time there, and I love European culture,
which is Christian culture, and it's destroyed that. And you
shut up. You're not allowed to care who's making the
rules here. You know, I don't hate anyone. I don't
see conflict with anyone at all. I have no weird biases.

(51:24):
All my biases are out in the open. But I
really resent being told who my enemy, especially with foreigners.
Some foreigner shows up and tells you who your enemies are. Really,
I've been here a long time. I live across from
my parents' graves. You can't tell me who America's enemies,
or at least I have a right to weigh in
on that also, Oh shut up, says Mark Dubowitz or something.

Speaker 5 (51:47):
It's like, are you are you in from here?

Speaker 11 (51:48):
What do you even?

Speaker 8 (51:49):
Who are you? Anyway? This is so bonkers. I don't
hate Mark Dubowitz. I don't hate his agenda. What I
hate I disagree with his agenda. I'm not mad at
I'm not mad at any of these people fundamentally. But
what I seek is an honest, open, transparent conversation about
what we're doing and why. And I don't think that's

(52:09):
too much to ask for, considering it's my tax dollars
and my money that you're seeking to use to achieve it.
If that's radical, then you know we've distorted the terms
beyond recognition.

Speaker 12 (52:19):
If you look at the debt nine trillion dollars associate
with Iraq and Afghanistan. I want to go back to
rec we played on Friday. We did the whole opening
thing of the bombing, everything going, everybody on TV beating
their chests because at that time it looked like Israel
was telling, Hey, this thing's over now, people jumping in.
And we finished with Shock and Awe from March nineteenth
to two thousand and three, and I said, hey, look

(52:39):
if you go back in that time, they were all
beating their chest then in the march up country to Baghdad,
and they couldn't be better. Remember they're throwing roses on
the ground all that. And it was twenty years later
a complete fiasco. Because it's always the law unattended consequences,
that's what we face here.

Speaker 8 (52:54):
This thing has not been thought through right, It does
not have the commitment of the America. But we have
to bring them. The American people are not there to
get into another war right now. And why is the
Congress not actively debating this. There's one person, Marjorie Taylor Green,
is like the only oh and now Levin says this morning,
she's not maga okay, all right.

Speaker 12 (53:14):
Now, truly in the last scene available, she's just she's
just some tiny congressman from world Georgia.

Speaker 8 (53:21):
Some liberal from suburban Atlanta. I mean, it's also mind bending,
And I have to say, you know, the the level
of unanimity, the sort of instantaneous response from five hundred
and thirty five members of Congress that we're going to
do this one thing, no debate. Anyone who says otherwise
is evil. It does make you wonder, like what is
this system?

Speaker 12 (53:41):
Are you an a piesa You've been called now an
appeaser and a pacifist, a pacifist?

Speaker 8 (53:49):
Why why have they thrown what?

Speaker 11 (53:52):
Literally?

Speaker 8 (53:52):
What have you said? Family?

Speaker 12 (53:54):
What have you said here in the last seventy two
hours as a factual matter that would make you an
appeaser and.

Speaker 8 (53:59):
Make the American above all. I am not a genius,
I'm not a profit I've been wrong many, many times,
and it's possible i'm wrong now. But my motives are transparent.
I love this country. If nowhere else to go, I
will not go anywhere else. And I just want what's
best for it. We can debate what's best for it.

(54:19):
But to tell me that I'm working for a foreign
nation is like by people who are literally working for
foreign nations. It's like so nuts. I will say this.
Our political system is paralyzed in the face of this completely.
It's not doing what it was designed to do, which
is channel the views of the people through the apparatus
of government. It's not doing that at all. It's short

(54:40):
circuiting and ignoring their opinions. And you have to kind
of wonder why. And I don't fully understand it. I
know that our system is not working. And I don't
think there's any country in the planet looking at us
saying oh I want that system. Oh wow, that version
of democracy. I think if you look at Trump as.

Speaker 12 (54:56):
That trade deals to bring jobs back, seal the border,
and deport the illegal aliens, and no more forever wars
as the basic planks in November of last year, that
won I want to sweep. It is at least working
at that level that the message can get out. And
we have a new coalition. We have African American men,
Hispanics families. You know, Star County, Texas, the most Hispanic

(55:18):
county in the country, ninety some percent hard bitten, blue
collar Hispanic citizens. We lose, but Tailory by sixty points.
Trump wins in November by sixteen points. It's coming our
way in this new coalition, including even the summer, and
I get limited appetite from even the tech bros in
that crowd. It's a new coalition like nineteen thirty two,
right where FDR had professors at Harvard and cracker Democrats

(55:40):
down down South and ranchers out west and people in
inner cities and Irish and Italians and all that. A
new coalition that could govern for fifty loss one boss,
but it's something that could govern for fifty years.

Speaker 8 (55:52):
That's out.

Speaker 12 (55:53):
Now we're into the governing of it where those are
the priorities, and particularly President Trump is now tripled down
with the ice raids and saying, Hey, these sanctuary cities
are gonna go.

Speaker 8 (56:02):
We're gonna get these people out of here.

Speaker 12 (56:04):
That to me is the top battle in this Third
World war. That we've have ten million illegal analys just
on Biden's watch. Is it not able to go? We're
able to win elections, but not able to govern?

Speaker 8 (56:14):
Is that the issue?

Speaker 9 (56:16):
You know?

Speaker 8 (56:16):
I really don't know. There's something really wrong. There are
certain red lines that you can't cross, and they're almost
all foreign policy related. I do think that, you know,
the people pushing hardest for American involvement in a war
with iron really hate Trump's domestic agenda. Mark Levin was
a never Trumper in twenty sixteen. Of course, they all

(56:37):
do that, Bill Crystals. They all hate what Trump is
trying to do in the United States, which is populist economics.
They hate it. They hate it. That's exactly right. We'll
see this in the Times pained for Trump. With Trump,
I gave up. This sounds so whunny, but like grouse season,
which is my favorite time if y're in October, and
left my dogs at home suffering like where are you
and went on the road with Trump. And I loved it,

(56:59):
and I was with it. I was staying right next
to many one. I have a picture on my phone
of that, which I would never show anybody else, but
I look at it because it was one of the
happiest moments. It was the happiest moment in politics. And
I've seen a lot that I've ever participated in. And
of course governing is really hard and you're never going
to do everything you promised you would do. But on
the big things, it's really important that they not get
totally subverted because it makes people lose faith in the system.

(57:22):
And I do. But the systems run. This is the
deep state part of it. What is this? We barely
have a grip.

Speaker 12 (57:27):
We have two good guys, Cash Betel is like a
brother to me, and Dan Bongino, great guy. We have
two people at FBI. We barely have a grip there.
We have a handful of people Justice, we barely have
a grip there. We have two people at Ellis and
Ratcliffe at CIA. Right, we have a handful of people
with Tulsi on this security. We have Christy and Corey

(57:47):
and a couple other people you know, the home and
at DHS. But DHS is still getting people out here
the old fashioned way. That's why they're burning through cash
in these central apparatuses of the deep state.

Speaker 8 (57:59):
We barely have a grip on it, and they're running
the deal. The Kennedy files out sixty two years later.
And by the way, somebody murdered the President of the
United States and lied about it for sixty years, Okay,
and we still can't get those files that we There
are thousands of documents that have not been released as
of today, and everyone.

Speaker 12 (58:19):
Seems to all of it related to somehow CIA activity
or CIA suppressing information.

Speaker 8 (58:24):
With CI, not just CIA. Okay, So until look, we're
living in a post coup country. Everything that happened after
the post nineteen sixty three, every elected official, certainly every
official elected at the national level, lives with that hanging
over him. They took out this guy, and whoever did

(58:45):
it is so powerful that we can't even know today.
When John McCone is fifty years in the grave, a
CIA then everyone's gone and we still can't find out
exactly what happened to day sources and methods. They don't
even say that anymore. They don't say anything there. It's like, oh,
we were released all No, you didn't, you lie? You lie.
I know. I'm from here, I you know, I know.

(59:06):
So I do think there's a sense in which some
of our leaders feel the presence of a physical threat.
I don't think that I know it so well to
what Trump is two assassination attempts, well, at least two,
and you can't have not from Iran. Two that were
from Iran. And for for bb' it's much. I mean,

(59:27):
I do think that Netahu could make his case by
telling the truth. I don't think there's any reason to lie. Again,
that's a lie. He knows that Iran and then he
Breckbear pressed him and he's like, oh, three proxies anyway.
But but the point is the point, you know, as
a high school debater, I know, but the point is
over here, it's three guard MONI, it's the gypsies, you know, Okay, No,

(59:51):
Iran did not try to assassinate the president during the
last election. And by the way, if Iran did try
to assassinate Trump, and we know that, then why are
we not at war with Iran? What are you saying, Boebe.
Are you saying that the president of the United States
is such a cuck that a foreign country can try
and murder him and he won't do anything about it,
is what you're saying. I mean, if the administration believed

(01:00:12):
Iran was behind two assassination attempts against Donald Trump, trust me,
we'd nuke the country. You can't do. You don't know
how to murder an American president. So that's not true,
and everyone knows it's not true. But what is true
is that the American president was murdered and we're still
not allowed to know who did it and why. And
I just think until that is cleared. And I've never

(01:00:34):
been a Kennedy obsessive or whatever, not interested in the
Kennedy's especially I'm not Irish. But as a matter of
like governance, how can you have a president or a
senator who truly does his best uphold the core idea
of a democratic republic, which is like the people's opinions matter.

(01:00:55):
You can't have that because he's worried about getting killed.
That's just true, and nobody says that. I don't know,
why don't they say that. If this were happening in Liberia,
you'd be like, it's not a real government because whenever
the president try and you know, strays outside the pre
prescribed boundaries, he gets murdered or worries about getting murdered.

(01:01:16):
Pretty much the same thing. You would not describe that
as a functioning democracy. And yet we just pretend that
this is not happening. But it is happening, and boy
do you see it on foreign policy it's the only
issue they care about. You really think that the Mark
Levinn like cares how many Somalis are in Minnesota. No,
not at all, No more the better. All he cares

(01:01:37):
about is the projection of force, using American service personnel
to fight far away wars that have no material benefit,
in fact, have massive downside for the United States. That's
his whole orientation. But why is that the platform of Fox? Though?

Speaker 12 (01:01:51):
It's just not Marl, But why is Fox like all weekend?
It's just cheerly, it's the same. It's exactly. You can
play side by side Iraq in two thousand and three,
I was there and here, and what's happening today?

Speaker 8 (01:02:02):
Why is it? Why is this apparatus? Well, Evince the
funniest because he's terrible on TV. And again I never
had any problems with him at Fox. He kind of
controls Hannity in this weird way. I never understood what
that was about. I never really cared to learn. Sean
was great to me, always nice, and so was Levin,
so I just like kind of stayed away. But they

(01:02:24):
didn't want to put him on TV because he's like
screechy and he's just not a coming president TV. Like,
I'm look, you're literally floating in and out of consciousness
and the attendant has taken the remote to go have
a cigarette. You're gonna flip the channel. When gets on TV,
it's like listed to your ex wife scream about alimony payments.
It's like not appealing. So they wouldn't put him on TV.

(01:02:45):
And then you know, Sean pushed and they gave him
some kind of weekend show that nobody watched. Now I
don't have a TV, but someone was just who hat
owns the TV was just telling me that he's like
all over prime time? So what is that? That's not
by popular acclaim. It's not like their viewer surveys, like,
you know, we need a lot more Mark Levin, less
Jesse Waters, more Mark Levin. What they're doing is what

(01:03:09):
they always do, which is just turning up the propaganda
hose to full blast and just trying to, you know,
knock elderly Fox viewers off their feet and make them sub.

Speaker 12 (01:03:22):
This is this is where the This is where the population,
the voters are ahead of the political class in the media.
The American people do not want any more engagement in
a foreign war. They just they saw Iraq, they saw Afghanistan,
were just out.

Speaker 8 (01:03:33):
I think, why a racist? I think is that what
you're saying? They're just bigots? So why is why does
Fox continue to pound that? Because they really really mean it,
and you saw they really mean it. I mean, there
is a kind of sincerity there that I respect. It's
I don't know why they fired me, but I think it.
No one ever told me, And I just want to say,

(01:03:54):
for the fifth time, they could not have been nicer
when they fired me, and they could have been you know,
more friendly. Talk to them recently, to the owners recently,
because I still like them even though we disagree, So
I'm not whining about them. As people. But I think
they can me from Fox or shut down my show
because I criticized Lensky and Lensky's close to the owners

(01:04:14):
of the company. It's like, well, how did that happen?
Why is Lenski? I don't know. I don't understand. There's
a lot I don't understand. All I know is that
it's not just Fox News, it's the American media generally.
It's it's government institutions, it's this city, it's the people
I used to live next to on Chambridge Road, northwest
in DC. They are deadly serious on the subject of

(01:04:35):
projection of force abroad. That is the one they have
no sense of yearing about at all. They'll lecture you
all day about the Gaze and the black people, and
you know, in this house we believe in science. They
don't give a short science or black people or Gaze
or Transger. What they care about is the projection of
force against their enemies on the other side of the globe.

(01:04:57):
That's why, depending on has a trillion dollar budget in
the country is protected by the Atlantic and the Pacific.

Speaker 12 (01:05:02):
And President Frum strategies a hemispheric defense. What then, are
the steps that you're recommending if the if the program
is we must take down the deep state, or at
least make some effort at it.

Speaker 8 (01:05:13):
What would be your recommendation, got a pro CIA under control?
And how would you do that? By adding the number
of political appointees? You know, I think CIA has a
you know, it's a federal agency whose budget we don't know,
of course, and it's.

Speaker 12 (01:05:29):
Not just if the president and I say this in
all serious is a special government employee. Where you still
had your podcast, you still had your the Tucker Cross
the network. Would you go assist the president like Elon
did with Doge. Would you go assist him to say, hey,
give me one hundred and twenty days.

Speaker 8 (01:05:44):
I will give you advice.

Speaker 12 (01:05:45):
Now the whole thing, CIA, Pentagon, DIA, the d and
I all FBI, DJ just say hey, look, here's the
battle map, here's what we have to do, or we're
not going to have We don't really have a constitution, republic.

Speaker 8 (01:06:02):
I mean, I'm unable to organize a sock drawer. So
I don't think that I have the temperament. I don't
think I have the skills for that I'm doing. Do
you have the insight to do that? If he had
other people grew up around it. Yeah, I know a
lot about it, and I think this has to happen.
And I'm being very serious. He killed immediately, of course,
I mean think you would be a subject to assassination.

(01:06:24):
I think that would be perils. I would do it.
I would do I feel like what I'm doing now.
I love Trump, and I mean that I've never just
Trump frustrate you. Of course, yep, certainly, but through that.
But my dog's frustrating, when my kids frustrated. I mean,
you get frustrated when you deal with people you love it.
But I'm my core feeling about Trump, and I think
it's obvious in the way I talk about him, and

(01:06:45):
I didn't don't. I don't need any more money, I
don't need anything from anybody. If I don't like Trump,
I just say so. I actually really love Trump. I
think he's a deeply humane, kind person. And I am
saying this because I'm really afraid that my she's going
to be further weakened by this. I think we're going
to see the end of American empire. Obviously, other nations

(01:07:06):
would like to see that, and this is a perfect
way to scuttle the USS America on the shoals of Iran.
But it's also going to end I believe, Trump's presidency
and effectively end it. And and so that's why I'm saying,
what do you mean by that? That's that's coming for you,
that's you get. Look, I knew Bush. I knew George W.
Bush with you know, family connections to Bush. I knew
Bush personally. I still see Bush sometimes and you know,

(01:07:31):
of course he hates me, and he does because I
criticized him on Iraq and that war is the sum
total from historical perspective of his administration. But I knew him,
and he had all kinds of plans for the things
that he wanted to do, but one domestically, domestically to
improve the country. And you may agree or disagree, but
like in his mind, he wasn't just about the invasion

(01:07:54):
of Iraq in March of Oh.

Speaker 12 (01:07:55):
No, No, he was going to redo social security into care
of the entitlements issue.

Speaker 8 (01:08:01):
And he really thought it was gonna work. And you
could laugh at that or whatever, but the point is
the second you get emeshed in a real war, not
a fake let's go bomb the villagers and declare success.
Though we don't even have a good track record like
Whyle the Hooth, He's still there. This a whole other question,
which is how prepared is the US military for a
real conflict? And the answer is totally unprepared, scary unprepared.

(01:08:23):
I don't think people understand that. But anyway, the only
reason I'm saying any of this is because I really
really care and it's been what a disaster for me personally.
I mean, it's like the last thing I wake up
in all these texts. Why I can't believe you're so
evil you hate this or that. I just want to
restate I don't hate anybody, and to the extent I

(01:08:45):
do hate people, I try to repent to it. I
don't want to hate anybody. I really don't. I just
don't want my country to be further weakened or destroyed
by another one of these wars. And boy, if you
can't connect the dots after twenty five years this year,
you're either too dumb to participate in the conversation or
your like Mark Levin, just a liar who doesn't care.

(01:09:06):
I know you got a bounce. We're going to hang
out this afternoon.

Speaker 12 (01:09:09):
One question, if you were able to see the President
in the next couple of days when he gets back.
What would be the two or three things you would
tell him, mister President, This is my this is my
heartfelt advice about where we are right now.

Speaker 8 (01:09:20):
I cannot tell you because I think I try to
speak exactly the same one. Will you know me? I
speak exactly the same in private, I use the F
word more, but in general I say the same things.
And I would say to him, like, you're the only
person who can bring peace. You should continue to try

(01:09:41):
and do that. It's difficult, it takes a long time,
but your timetable is the only timetable that matters. Don't
get bum rushed. You don't need to fix this because
there's political turmoil in BB's coalition. That's not relevant. He's
at approval, is not your problem. Yeah, just because some
ultra orthodox party doesn't want to be conscripted or whatever's
going on in as real these are longtime problems that

(01:10:01):
that country has had that's not relevant to our plans
or to your plans as the leader of the free world.
A B. If you get involved in a war that
includes American troops and force, if you're lobbing missiles from
submarines into Iran.

Speaker 12 (01:10:19):
Or combat sorties. You're doing combat sorties. You're I actually
say we're combatant now, but I mean you could basically
argue maybe not what they are.

Speaker 8 (01:10:26):
I just want to pretend we're not, because of course
we are. But I want to pretend we're not because
we're in the final stages of being able to pull back,
and pretty soon there's no pulling back. You know, we're
still sending money to Ukraine to fight Vladimir Putin? Like,
how did that happen? It happened because nobody just stopped it.
Nobody said, hey, Zelenski, you're not even elected. You're a dictator.

(01:10:49):
Off the stage run in Switzerland, you know, get.

Speaker 12 (01:10:51):
Out of The intelligence services are helping from Wiesbaden to
plan the three thousand miles strike into their strategic ass
you know.

Speaker 8 (01:10:59):
The US Central Services also fully aware of the many
assassinations and assassination attempts against opponents and critics of the
Ukrainian regime, many including someone I know. So this is
super dark man. The more you know about it. It's
like the US, the ICE American intel community is aware
that the Ukrainian intel community is murdering people, including Americans like,

(01:11:25):
how can that even happen? So there's a lot. But
last thing I'll say is the second that I've seen it. Second,
the killing starts, the calculations change. Who will become much
less principled, much less reasonable, much less able to and
they can't see their own interest clearly, And so don't
don't go there. And you think right now we're on

(01:11:46):
the cusp of that. I'm an optimistic man, and I
think that we could. I think we could pull back.
And I wish the President wasn't in Canada. I don't
wish a trip to Canada to anyone because I think
it's a really dark country. I hope he gets home
soon because you don't want any of that Canadian to
rub off on you while you're there. But yeah, I mean,

(01:12:06):
I think that this can be can be stopped, but
it's going to require a really tough step, which is
to say to our client state, we love you, we
want to help you. We don't think you're acting in
your own interests. But you know, we could debate that,
but we're not going to do is imperil American national security,
or the American economy, or America itself on your behalf.
We're not going to do that because that's that's immoral

(01:12:29):
for us to do that. Our population doesn't want it.
And we're saying this with love. But no, no, as
you would say to a child. I mean, you've got
a bunch of kids. You say no to them. Of
course you do, because you love them. It's okay to
do that. And you know their proxies in the United
States and Barry and that Levin character will jump. Why
you hate them, donate them at all? I like them?

(01:12:49):
This is crazy. What's the endgame here? The endgame, of course,
is to topple the regime and just have this ninety
million person civil war and further destroy Europe in the world.
And you know, it's like, we're not doing that again.
Already been through this, We're not doing that again. And
this is big boys stuff. This is not Gaza. And
I you know, I never say anything about Gaza because
I really tried, very offended by it. They blow up

(01:13:10):
a church in Gaza with my money. I'm a Christian, Like, no,
how about no, I said one thing about that. Man,
I've never heard the end of it. But I've tried
to stay away from Gaza. But now We're talking about
a huge country, talking about Southwest Asia, one of the
biggest in an ancient civilization. This is not so since
you're not going to convince me that the Iranians I
don't like. I'm not a schieite. I'm not like on

(01:13:30):
the side of the Shi Clerics. I'm a freaking Episcopalian,
settled down. However, you're not going to convince me that
the Iranian people are my enemy. Again, we're going down
this here. Here's who you're required to hate. It it's orwell, man,
I'm a free man. You're not telling me who I
have to hate. I'll decide who I like and don't
like on the basis of my values and when I
believe my interests. Are they spent you know, five years

(01:13:51):
telling me Ladimir Putin is her enemy? No he's not.
I'm not mad a flat of our Putin tell me
why I should be. I'm met at you.

Speaker 11 (01:13:58):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 8 (01:13:59):
This is like, it's also fake.

Speaker 12 (01:14:02):
I'm not playing along and here you're gonna be doing
interviews to take this actually take it up on a
couple of notches.

Speaker 8 (01:14:08):
I really just want to get away from this topic
because it's one of those topics that intersects with a
lot of other things. So it's not like Belgium is
getting frisky with Liechtenstein. And like, I have an opinion
on that this is a country that's the you know,
at the very center of the three biggest religions in
the world, that is, you know, a Jewish state, so

(01:14:32):
whatever that means exactly. And so it has an emotional
resonance for Jewish people in America, some of whom are
my close friends. That is different from any other country.
It's not like, you know, when things happen in Sweden
or the UK, where my ancestors are from, people aren't
quite as emotional. It's very emotional. So I don't want
anything to do with it at all. I don't want
to criticize Bibe. I don't want to talk about Gaza.

(01:14:54):
I don't want Look. I feel completely backed into a
corner here where it's like like we are on the
cusp of entering a war on behalf of a political
leader in a far away country that's going to really
hurt my country. I've got four kids, I wanna have
grand kids, Like are you even joking? Stop? And I
tried to be like quite about it.

Speaker 3 (01:15:15):
I don't.

Speaker 8 (01:15:16):
I don't want to get involved in any of this
because again, people are so emotional. How could you? I mean,
you should see my text this morning. I got threatened
by someone this morning, actually who I.

Speaker 12 (01:15:24):
Threatened as by a friend, a colleague or somebody that
just came to say, it's too much.

Speaker 8 (01:15:31):
It's very careless what you said. It's very careless, careless.
I was like, hey, asshole, I know what you're saying.
I got it very careless. Anyway, whatever I don't want
to get I'm not whining. I'm not aoc oh I'm
under such threat. I'm not under threat. But what I'm
saying is I don't want to be involved in this
at all, and I think most Americans don't. And it's

(01:15:52):
only because we're actual really getting drawn into a war
a tiny and by a tiny minority of people like
I know a million people who are pro Israel and
Jewish or pro Israel and not Jewish like me, I've
always been pro Israel who are like, I don't think
this is good. It doesn't like, why do we allow
three percent of the participant or the participants in this conversation,

(01:16:14):
so like define the terms, you know, if you are
okay with any and you know Iranian enrichment at all.
You're for the Iatolas and you're against Israel at what.
Shut up. No, I'm not going to allow you to
define the terms. You're a total liar. I mean these
are liars, Like for real, we'll say anything. I'm working

(01:16:37):
for a guitar. Trump was actually pretending to go through
a peace process and no, that thing was terrible. And
Steve Wikoff, who's like who I know very well, who's
one of the most pure hearted people, whether you agree
with him or not. If you're calling into question Steve
Whitcoff's motives, like Wicoff doesn't need any of this, He's
just doing it because he wants to help. That's it.
That's the only he's paying for himself. And if you're

(01:16:59):
telling me that Steve Cough is working for Katar, that's
what set me over the edge because I know Whitcough
well and I really love Steve Wikoff and I think
he's no agree with him on everything, but I think
he's like a decent man who wants what's best for
Donald Trump, his best friend in the United States, and
that's enough for me. Like I see his motive as pure.
It is pure. I know him well, and when they're

(01:17:19):
calling him an anti semi, it's like so nuts. That's
when I was like, ah, I can't believe I have
to get involved in this. But because it's too much,
it's just too much. You can't let that go unresponded to.
You have to stand up and say, I'm sorry, that's
just not true. That's a lie. And you know it's alike.
But you're not going to back down from this. You're
gonna say I want to it down immediately. I just
want to get away from this. I want to go back.

(01:17:41):
You know, I'm missing a lot of my favorite things
and a lot of my favorite people. I don't want
to argue a butt Israel of all subjects, oh my gosh.
And I don't want to become I'm not going to
become a crazy person or a hater. Part of the
dynamic here is you become the things they accuse you
of being. Like I've seen this happen to many people,
not many, but I have seen it happen where they

(01:18:02):
say you love putin that to me for years now,
and then one day you're like, I love putin Okay,
I just I mean, I actually I kind of I
think Putin's an amazing leader. I'm not I've always thought that,
but I'm not like a close friend to Putin's. They
can drive you to become a worse version of yourself
by accusing you of being it. You sort of grow

(01:18:24):
into the attack. And there's no chance I'm not that
happened to myself. There's just no chance. I'm not gonna
become a hater, not become obsessed with Israel. I just
want to get away from the topic. A lot of
other things going on. Just stop trying to drag my
country into war. That's it.

Speaker 12 (01:18:38):
Tucker Carlson, thank you so much for coming back. Just
in the neighborhood drop by, Tucker and I would be
hanging out this afternoon.

Speaker 8 (01:18:46):
I guess well, I can't wait. I'm gonna ask you
lots of hard.

Speaker 12 (01:18:49):
Questions, lots of hard question is. Hopefully I'll have some answers.
Let's take a short commercial break. We've got a rolling break.
Let's go and take a short commercial break. Tucker, thank
you for coming back.

Speaker 8 (01:18:57):
Thank you, Oh my gosh, I love it. We'll see you.

Speaker 12 (01:18:59):
Thank you for remember the old days at all. It's
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