THE WAR ROOM WITH STEPHEN K. BANNON (EP. 4565)

THE WAR ROOM WITH STEPHEN K. BANNON - JUNE 17TH, 2025

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
There aren't many people representing the Hey, let's have less
violence and focus on America's side of things. I think
we're going to see the end of American empire. Obviously
other nations would like to see that. And this is
a perfect way to scuttle the USS America on the
rules of Iran. But it's also going to end, I believe,
Trump's presidency.

Speaker 2 (00:20):
In an interview with The Atlantic, Trump hit back at
some of these critics, saying he is the one who
came up with America first in the first place, so
he gets to decide what it means. This is all
I mean, we were just talking about peace, right Like Trump,
it feels like he's a little bit at war with
himself because he said all the time, I mean, he
wants to be known as the peacemaker, the deal maker,

(00:41):
the guy who ends wars. And yet here he finds
himself defending another war.

Speaker 3 (00:46):
Well, I don't think Trump's defending the war.

Speaker 4 (00:48):
Trump's defending Israel's actions. And within a week or two
he's going to try to find an offramp to bring
it to peace. And as for Tucker Carlson, has he
been and they do not define what the mag or
the conservative base is there's two idiot conspiracy. There's the base,
the magabase, the conservative base believing they're all behind Trump,
and that's it. He's the one that calls the shots
on what kind of defines you know, that magabase. And

(01:08):
he's not trying to get us into a war.

Speaker 3 (01:09):
He's trying to get us out.

Speaker 5 (01:10):
Of that that war.

Speaker 4 (01:11):
And yes, and he understands the political ramifications if it
goes too long, if it doesn't work out. So that's
why I think he's back in DC doing everything they
can to kind of cut a deal to end VIDE.

Speaker 6 (01:21):
Then the Governor's give him credit for meaning. I think
that this is really a divisive issue within MAGA. I
don't think everyone in MAGA is saying, Okay, you know,
we're with Trump on this. I think they're a number
a good number of high profile MAGA figures who are saying,
this is not what we signed up for.

Speaker 5 (01:39):
Now.

Speaker 6 (01:39):
Does that mean they're going to stop supporting Donald Trump?
But but it means that on this issue, we're seeing
a fracture that we have not seen up to this
point within MAGA world. And that's that is a big deal.

Speaker 7 (01:53):
South Carolina Senator Lindsay Graham, Senator. You know you were
praising the President for his patients and seeking peace and
going back to the table and back to the table.
You can't say that he didn't try to give them
an out, an opportunity, knowing what the eventual outcome was
going to be. And you know he said, I told
them it's a shame, it's a waste of human life.

(02:15):
They can't have a nuclear weapon, and everyone should immediately
evacuate Tehran. How do you interpret that.

Speaker 8 (02:21):
Sir Well. I take President at his word. He gave
Iran sixty days to do a deal. On sixty the
sixty first day, we are where we are. There's two
ways to stop Iran from having a nuclear weapon. One
is diplomacy, the other is force. I think the headline
tonight is we're moving into the land of force. I

(02:42):
think Iran has allowed themselves to be fooled into thinking
they could manipulate Trump. Same old tactics with the wrong
guy when.

Speaker 3 (02:53):
It comes to Trump.

Speaker 8 (02:54):
To all those who voted for President Trump and guide
him in office, God bless you, He's the right guy
at the right time. These are dangerous times. Why do
we say no nuclear weapon for Iran? They're a religious theocracy.
They're built around the extreme version of Islam. They want
to destroy Saudi Arabia and the Sunni branch of Islam.

(03:15):
They want to kill all the Jews in Israel and
come after us. That's what their whole country is built upon,
a theocratic view that there's nobody else in the world.
But then when it comes to worshiping God, if they
had a nuclear weapon, they would use it. Israel believes that.

Speaker 1 (03:30):
I believe that.

Speaker 8 (03:31):
So here's the task at hand. Be all in President
Trump and helping Israel eliminate the nuclear threat.

Speaker 9 (03:39):
If we need to.

Speaker 8 (03:40):
Provide bombs to Israel, provide bombs, if we need to
fly planes with Israel, do joint operations. But here's the
bigger question. Wouldn't the world be better off if the
IE totals went away and replaced by something better? Wouldn't
Iran be better off? Tom Cotton is coming on.

Speaker 7 (03:56):
He made a great observation.

Speaker 8 (03:57):
The Endless War is a run seventy nine. They've been
attacking the entire region, channing death to America, death to Israel.
Since they're very fine founding, it's time to close the
chapter on the Iran In Iotolin, his henchmen, let's close
that chapter soon and start a new chapter in the Mideast,
one of tolerance, to hope and peace, well specifically, is.

Speaker 3 (04:17):
Better than a C.

Speaker 1 (04:18):
S fire?

Speaker 5 (04:18):
What are you looking for here?

Speaker 3 (04:21):
And a really nasire?

Speaker 5 (04:24):
And so something that will be permanent or or.

Speaker 3 (04:28):
Giving up entirely. Is it's okay to are you close?

Speaker 8 (04:31):
There is ho?

Speaker 3 (04:32):
Are you possible? Is that possible at a twenty four
White High? Certainly impossible? Complete give up?

Speaker 10 (04:39):
That's possible, the President saying he would be in the
White House Situation room this morning, and he also posted
this after touching down, quote I have not reached out
to Iran for peace talks in any way, shape or form.

Speaker 11 (04:55):
According to the Washington Post, ICE officials told agents they
must continue to sw keeps after hearing from DHS leadership
that the White House does not support an exemption policy.
An assistant secretary for DHS said yesterday, quote worksite enforcement
remains a cornerstone of its immigration crackdown efforts, and there

(05:18):
are no quote safe spaces for industries. The paper also
reports White House Deputy Chief of Staff Stephen Miller, an
architect of Trump's immigration policy, privately opposed carving out exemptions
for certain industries that rely heavily on workers without legal status,
according to two people with knowledge of his advocacy in

(05:42):
recent days.

Speaker 9 (05:43):
So let's explain this too. There may actually be even
more to this politically for domestic politics, MAGA politics, more
than anything else. Tucker Carlson going on Steve Bennen Show
yesterday and again saying that Donald Trump going along with
that Yahoo could not only destroy the American Empire, but

(06:06):
also destroy his presidency. We've heard other people, other Fox
News commentators and others out there in the right wing
MAGA sort of media sphere talking about the civil war
that's coming domestically inside saying that Donald Trump's going to
destroy his presidency.

Speaker 3 (06:24):
So is that what he's saying?

Speaker 9 (06:26):
Donald Trump supporting Israel is really America first, and that's
why people need to just you know, people in magabase
need to go along with this.

Speaker 12 (06:36):
Yeah, that's the subtext here.

Speaker 13 (06:37):
There's been a real divide the last couple of days,
and it really exploded yesterday, as you said, so almost
a civil war within.

Speaker 3 (06:44):
The MAGA movement.

Speaker 12 (06:44):
There's the Tucker Carlson.

Speaker 13 (06:46):
Wing that is saying don't be involved in Iran. You
know when Donald Trump first ran for office ten years ago.
Yesterday he pledged to no more, not be involved these
forever wars, no more Middle East entanglements and the like
America First, much more of an isolationist few. Then there's
the other side of this, Mark Levin, Charlie and some
of the Raber, Murdoch and others members of that wing

(07:07):
who say no, now's the time to where Iran is weak,
the US should be involved, if not directly, but at
least support Israel's efforts. And there is a schism here,
and President Trump well aware of this schism. He in
fact called Tucker Carlson Kouki last night and in a
social media post after Carlson called him complicit in what
we're seeing in Iran right now. And I am told
by people close to the President he's mindful of trying

(07:30):
to satisfy both bases. And that's why we're getting a
little bit of a waffling, as he's not quite sure
how to navigate this very fast moving situation.

Speaker 14 (07:39):
In the least Israelis are on edge. The Israelis do
field that they have the upper hand. They have the
upper hand militarily, as you've been talking about the Israeli
Air Force says it now has complete freedom of operation
over Tehran. But the Iranians are still firing some missiles

(08:00):
at Israel, but last night on a relatively small scale,
not this massive attack that they had been threatening. And
one thing, Joe you mentioned earlier about the concern that
these early military successes at Israel's having, will it give
it a false sense of security? Will it lead to

(08:20):
more action?

Speaker 12 (08:22):
Is there a two.

Speaker 14 (08:22):
Thousand and two dynamic here? And that is exactly what
many senior officials across the Middle East who I'm speaking.

Speaker 12 (08:29):
To are worried about.

Speaker 14 (08:31):
They're telling me that this all feels like two thousand
and two all over again, That there's a discussion of
redrawing the map of the Middle East, changing the mentality
of the Middle East, regime change in the Middle East,
allegations of weapons of mass destruction imminately being ready and
eminately going to be used in a variety of locations,

(08:51):
and not here necessarily in Israel, but across the Arab world.
I'm hearing this on a daily basis. People are worried
we back in two thousand and two? Are we back
in two thousand and three all over again?

Speaker 12 (09:07):
This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray
for our enemies, because we're going to medieval on these people.
He's not got a free shot. All these networks lying
about the people, the people have had a belly full
of it. I know you don't like hearing that.

Speaker 15 (09:24):
I know you tried to do everything in the world
to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.

Speaker 12 (09:27):
It's going to happen.

Speaker 3 (09:28):
And where do people like that go to share the
big line? Mega media?

Speaker 6 (09:33):
I wish in my soul, I wish that any of
these people had a conscience.

Speaker 15 (09:38):
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
If that answer is to save my country, this country.

Speaker 3 (09:47):
Will be saved. Or here's your host, Stephen K.

Speaker 15 (09:51):
Math It's Tuesday, seventeen, Junior Year of a Lord. Twenty
twenty five. President did come back from Calgary from the
G seven, obviously to deal with the situation in the
Middle East. Also, I think he was getting pretty bored
hanging out with those guys. You could tell, you know,

(10:13):
he's not a fan of a couple of three of
those guys, starting with the President of France. The uh,
we're on the on tenter hooks it's is there going
to be some sort of military engagement by the United
States and what's going on in Persia? Or is President
Trump going to have Steve Witkoff one more time give
him my Hey, here's the deal. Either do this deal.

(10:35):
You can't have a nuclear weapon. I can't emphasize enough
how much President Trump has been emphasizing this since he.

Speaker 12 (10:41):
Got on the plane last night.

Speaker 15 (10:42):
He's told the Persians they can't have a nuclear weapon.
They're not going to have a nuclear weapon, and we'll
see if they go the route of trying to make
a deal. Although I'm not so sure how much outside
of photo or I'm not so sure how much of
their actual nuclear infrastructure even exists. Israelis have the DF,
the air force has air superiority. I would actually say

(11:03):
air supremacy. I think over over Tehran and they're they're
essentially firing at will, or it seems like that. So
this is going to come. Who knows how long this
regime even lasts. In fact, there's all this discussion. Has
the Israeli plan started with taking out the nuclear capabilities?

Speaker 12 (11:23):
Has it been regime changed?

Speaker 15 (11:24):
We said on Friday morning, it looked like it was
a decapitation move of everything except the religious leaders, but
certainly the military and President Trump.

Speaker 12 (11:33):
There's reports President Trump said, no, we're not going to go.

Speaker 15 (11:37):
After I'm not going to allow you to go after
the assassinate the religious leaders. Who knows of that has changed,
Who knows if even many of those guys are still alive.
President Trump's been pretty adamant that the negotiating team at
the senior level that Wikoff was supposed to meet with,
I think he said publicly they're all dead, right, So

(11:57):
I'm sure they have other people, Deputy, but obviously President
Trump is pretty adamant they're not going to have nuclear weapons.
He's been adamant from the beginning, as we in the
war room have been adamant. We think there's a way
to go about it that uses economic warfare and allows
the Persian people to overthrow the Mudlis because the Mulis

(12:17):
are there's no question whether they're bad guys or not.
They're essentially very bad guys. President Trump now I think
weighing and measuring what's going to happen here. Is he
going to continue on try to make a deal and
have them give up their nuclear weapons? And he was
pretty specific that we could go in and tear it apart,
break it down, which is very much different than the

(12:38):
verify the verification prospects they were talking about. And President Trump,
I think says, hey, I had to deal with you guys.
You had the deal, you could have signed the deal.
You did, and you got what you got. There's obviously
a lot of pressure. You saw Lindsay Graham last night,
Tom Cotton, the whole Fox network, you heard it from
Tucker yesterday.

Speaker 12 (12:58):
The Fox Network.

Speaker 15 (12:58):
Has been relentless us in pressuring, trying to pressure President
Trump to get in here and actually give which would
be essentially air assets, combat air assets, both refueling possibilities,
the bunker busting bombs, particularly American combat sorties into into
persia that all hangs in the balance of the President

(13:20):
United States. I believe is either have already met at
least on an inner basis with his National Security Council
as top national security advisors, and or is going to
do that shortly. And I'm sure in and out throughout
the day they'll be they'll be doing that, and President
Trump will be will be weighing and measuring what he's
going to do. And we'll see how this day proceeds.

(13:41):
But right now, I can tell you there's a tremendous
amount of pressure on President Trump. You saw from Lindsey
Graham last night. In fact, I might play that clip again,
but I'm afraid that some of the warm positively I
look at the live chat may have heart palpitations. Hopefully,
you know, somebody rises out of South Carolina to charge

(14:02):
to challenge Lindsey because he's been the tip of the
tip of the spear both in Ukraine and now in Persia.
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Speaker 12 (14:58):
Mike Lindelle up next.

Speaker 3 (15:00):
New York.

Speaker 16 (15:01):
Look, I understand America first. I don't understand America dead.
That's what these people want. They chant death to America.
So we're doing something that is in the service of
mankind of humanity, and it's a battle of good against evil.
America does should and does stand with a good That's
what President Trump is doing, and I deeply appreciate his support.

(15:23):
John Carl joins me.

Speaker 7 (15:24):
Now, So John, what else did he say about President
Trump and how he wants the US to play a
role here or did.

Speaker 17 (15:30):
He well, well, look, he praised President Trump over and
over again in this interview. He knows that he needs
the United States support, at least in terms of doing
what the US is doing now, which is helping Israel
defend itself from those retaliatory attacks from Iran. So it
was all couched in. I thank you, President Trump, You've

(15:50):
been Israel's best friend. But he made it clear that
he would like to see more. He didn't come out
and directly say it in those works, in those ways.
But what you heard, what you played right there, I
understand America first, I don't understand America dead. He is
really speaking to those in the Trump movement, those in

(16:12):
the MAGA movement who are adamantly opposed to the United
States getting involved in another Middle East conflict. And as
you know, Kier, there are some prominent voices, supporters outside
advisors of Donald Trump, who are saying, don't get involved.
The United States can't be involved. You campaigned against Forever Wars,

(16:33):
people like Tucker Carlson, Steve Bannon, Charlie Kirk. Those are
close supporters of Donald Trump who are saying that they
don't think the United States should be involved in this,
and net and Yahoo. It seemed to me by using
their language, I understand America first, I don't understand America dead.

Speaker 3 (16:51):
Was speaking directly.

Speaker 17 (16:53):
To Donald Trump and to his supporters who are critical
of what Israel is doing.

Speaker 12 (17:00):
Okay, here's what we'd like to do.

Speaker 15 (17:01):
An next tried it last night, but in the live
chats because we have you know, so many people in
these live chats, all of them you know, get or
rev the telegram. Of course, the bruisers over at Rumble.
I love the Rumble crowd. I love all the crowds.
The Rumble will tell you what they think quickly. Give

(17:22):
us a response right now, like to hear what's your
thoughts on Netanya, who's it's it's not America for ust
it's America dead. I'd like to have your response to that,
because he's addressing you. So let's get some feedback on
that as we go. Like I said, President Trump weighing
and measuring what's going on. I think to Beturn, I
do report that the rapper response. I think over at

(17:45):
the White House has put out a something by General
Krilla over at over at Scentcom.

Speaker 12 (17:53):
I'll put that up.

Speaker 15 (17:54):
In the in the chat right now so you can
see it, and we'll address that in the next thing.
His his looks like his intelligence or his estimate is
a little different than d and I and Tulsi Gabbert.
In the entire crowd over there, we really haven't heard
the CIA pitching. Although Tulsi Gabert is supposed to collect
and collate all that as D and I and you

(18:16):
would assume the CIA's analysis will be in there. So
we will obviously stay on top of this as the
morning progresses. And I will just tell you I think
there's a lot of activity going on.

Speaker 12 (18:29):
We're here because of the stolen twenty twenty election. You
know that.

Speaker 15 (18:32):
That's why President Trump's hardest court supporters. You were with
him in the breach. There's an awful lot of people
I notice right now saying how their true maga, and
they're pure MAGA. I don't think anybody at Fox can possibly.

Speaker 12 (18:46):
Be true MAGA and hardcore MAGA.

Speaker 15 (18:48):
And the reason is, to be brutally frank, when President
Trump had the election stolen from him and had the
White House taken away and he went back to mar
A Lago for that year of twenty twenty one. Because
everybody at Fox takes a paycheck from Murdoch. You all
supported to Santas and Nikki Haley and whoever else came
along right as an opportunity to take and replace President Trump.

(19:10):
So if you work at Fox, by definition, you can't
be true maga.

Speaker 12 (19:15):
Just it's impossible. We were here, We remember this audience.

Speaker 15 (19:19):
There was a couple of very lonely days weeks and
months before President Trump I think, took the sea pack
in Orlando and went back and gave that amazing speech
that he was coming back and had thought it through
in a month and a half, and we knew he
would always come back. But you had his back in
the darkest days because you believe in President Trump. One

(19:39):
of the most important things is happening. And one of
the things I'm concerned that doesn't get the attention right
now is President Trump has really come out and doubled
and tripled down on the ice removals of mass deportations.
This is in the in the middle of a firestorm
against him on that President Trump is hanging beyond beyond tough.
In fact, I think it's the I should POSTA has

(20:00):
a huge article how there's been a reversal already. Steven
Miller and the team over there have reversed this policy
of the I think coming from the Agriculture Department there,
we're not going to be any ice raids and agriculture
and hotels and restaurants all that.

Speaker 12 (20:15):
That's that's not the case at all.

Speaker 15 (20:17):
In fact, President Trump, in a series of true socials
number one said the other day twenty million illegal alien
evaders that are going to be mass deportated, deported Number one.
He also said the ice raids, particularly in sanctuary cities,
and he means La, Chicago, New York, all these sanctuary cities,
these inner cities run by these radical Democrats.

Speaker 12 (20:37):
They're going to triple down on ice rates, triple down.

Speaker 15 (20:40):
On ice rates, going, you know, going to ratchet it up,
not going to back off, going to ratchet it up.
And then last night this reversal of this ag policy
that DHS had for I think less than twenty four hours. Obviously,
when President Trump got to focus on it with somebody
because he's got the way the world on his shoulders
right now reversed, that's so very very very very important.

Speaker 12 (21:02):
Mike Lindell.

Speaker 15 (21:03):
Uh So, the mainstream media tells me you lost the
defamation case yesterday and you owa guy two and a
half million bucks, although my pillow was excluded from that judgment,
and therefore, you know, the company still exists. What's the reality,
Because I've seen your your statements and your messages, that
was actually a victory for you. You don't have to
pay anything. You're an appeal just walk us through exactly

(21:25):
what happened.

Speaker 18 (21:27):
Well, first of all, everybody, we were up against a
judge that said right away she said you did commit deflamation.
So she had They had like thirty statements that were
made or more than that, I guess, and each one
the jury had to decide she had already ruled. It
was a very strange way to go into court. You

(21:50):
were already of course, it was Denver and it was uh,
we went at this very different, different kind of court
that I'd never seen. Was you know, everything we everything
we brought.

Speaker 3 (22:01):
Forward was overruled, overruled, and overruled, and so we were
up against that now. But the biggest thing is my
pillow was.

Speaker 18 (22:13):
Sued and by three different companies, the machine companies and
their affiliates.

Speaker 3 (22:17):
And this is what I've been upset about for four years.

Speaker 18 (22:20):
If you're going to sue a company that advertises somewhere
and something set or something's done, you're not going to
have any advertised in our country. Well, my pillow came
out victorious. We're the first ones that went all the
way to jury trial. Everyone else, but back then when
they sued over one hundred companies and businesses, and I
mean companies and people. We're the only ones that took

(22:40):
it all the way to jury trial with your health
war room polse and and we won. It was unanimous
all the way, every single thing that they when they
brought up my pill, one hundred percent victory. Now the
media is coming out and saying, well, you owe all this,
Mike Lindell, you all this.

Speaker 3 (22:56):
Well, that's what appeals are.

Speaker 18 (22:57):
For, Steve and the I was very happy to come
out the way it was the way the way it
came out, because they've been wanting to destroy my voice
since the beginning, since back.

Speaker 3 (23:10):
In twenty one.

Speaker 12 (23:11):
Yeah, but hangar a second. Appeals are only on points
of law.

Speaker 15 (23:16):
What specifically in points of law are your attorneys pointing
to that? Because appeals almost it almost never gets appealed
to overturned.

Speaker 12 (23:25):
On at an appellate level.

Speaker 15 (23:26):
Sometimes it does where there's major breaches in the law.
But your attorney's telling you there's been a major breach
in the law here, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (23:34):
There's been. There's been. We have a laundry list of it,
to be honest with you.

Speaker 18 (23:38):
And uh, but also they never one of the things
that's truly important.

Speaker 3 (23:41):
They never proved.

Speaker 18 (23:42):
Any uh any loss, any any any loss. I mean
it was like, uh, they had to prove that there
was uh, you know, two million dollars in loss somewhere
that the uh that the uh the plaintiff god and
uh and it.

Speaker 3 (24:00):
Down to Steve too.

Speaker 18 (24:01):
It was two statements of myself two One of them
was when they made a dirty deal with Newsmax so
I couldn't go on there or and talk about my billow.
And the other one was when I was served on
the steps of the state Capitol. But after your company
or anybody's company's attack like that, I shot back, I'm
not going to sit and take it and just oh, okay,

(24:22):
that's okay, you go after my employee, own company. And
but we've got a lot of Steve won't have reports
this week. I know they're working hard on that. They
want to get something done here in the next seven days.
But one of the things is damages. They there was
no damages shown. They really focused on you know, they're

(24:42):
the twenty twenty election, overturning the twenty twenty election, And
there was so many things they didn't let in that
I wanted to bring in, then my lawyers wanted to
bring in.

Speaker 3 (24:51):
It was block block block block block.

Speaker 18 (24:54):
So I think that might be some of the some
of the things, because every time that happened, I'd go
into kind of a panic, and they're going, Mike, this
is all if they do this and it comes out run,
this is all part of the appeal appeal process. So
I'm I think it's a great victory for my pill,
for our country. It's the first victory involving his twenty
twenty election. And I'm going to tell you, Steve, while

(25:17):
it was there, you know, this all came out of
Colorado media where it's going all over the country that
you know, Mike Lendell lost and all this rubbish. I
feel very much that it was a great victory for
us in our country. And a week ago, our great
president they requested from Colorado, which is the tip of
the spear right now, of all the stuff that happened

(25:39):
in the twenty twenty election, and he requested all the
cashpot records and the data records from the twenty twenty election,
twenty twenty two and twenty twenty four. Well, I'll tell
you what, They're not gonna have anything.

Speaker 3 (25:51):
From twenty twenty and twenty twenty two.

Speaker 18 (25:53):
Colorado deletes stuff and gets rid of stuff faster than
they're printed.

Speaker 3 (25:58):
So that came about.

Speaker 18 (25:59):
I was arguing with the Colorado media there it was
guy was there for almost a month.

Speaker 3 (26:04):
It was a battle every day with them.

Speaker 18 (26:06):
I came protesters first hand that we're coming out for
me and.

Speaker 12 (26:11):
Mike, hang on, hang on for a moment.

Speaker 15 (26:14):
I want to hold you through you because I want
to ask about these to the gree you and answer
these other cases that you got come I think from
the machine companies themselves. Mike Lindell claiming victory in Colorado
is going to appeal whatever turn against him.

Speaker 12 (26:28):
But I guess, uh my.

Speaker 15 (26:29):
Pillow came out free and clear, so he lives to
fight another day. We're gonna take a short commercial break
world and turbulence could get more turbulent this afternoon. I
think we just got a posting on the is that
just happened on the White House that this just happened,
just get posted. Trump has always been clear Iron cannot
have a nuclear weapon. Certainly missed the President fully understand it.

(26:53):
We're going to get into that he just posted I
think at the white House dot com short commercial break
back in.

Speaker 12 (26:57):
A moment, her Stephen K Bas.

Speaker 15 (27:04):
Okay, Charlie Gasparino, who you know, gets a lot of scoops.
Let me just put this up breaking top Wall Street.
Market watchers, I e CEO's economists, and the government affairs
officials are closely reading the tea leaves on the possibility
of Trump Green Lane the Bunker busters on Iran for
its obvious market implication. Sources tell me they read from

(27:26):
the at White House. This is the what we just
said has been put up and came up a little
earlier this morning, but it's a whole litany of President
Trump's over and over again telling the Iranians they cannot
have a nuclear weapon. They read from the at White House.
They say, is that no decision has been made, but
Trump is warming up to the idea if Iron doesn't
engage and talk soon to end its nuclear program. This

(27:47):
comes amid intense opposition from some quarters of the MAGA
coalition to the US involvement. The IVY short term market
implication is on oil, US stocks dollar story developing. We've
always been a huge supporter of President Trump, and Iron
cannot have the Persians can't have a new colew upon
no doubt about that. His I thought strategy of hammering

(28:08):
them and negotiating with them, and we still had not
gone up the escalatory ladder on economic warfare, which brought
them to the knees.

Speaker 12 (28:14):
Remember when the regime over there had a problem, I.

Speaker 15 (28:17):
Think in twenty two it was because of the sanctions
President Trump had put in, and those weren't anywhere near
the sanctions that could be put in today.

Speaker 12 (28:26):
Really economic warfare.

Speaker 15 (28:27):
Remember the regime, not that they got overthrown, but for
the first time in the streets, you saw a real
uprising of people and you saw the which is the
way that regimes I believe, have to be overthrown by
the people. If you can exacerbate that by economic warfare,
just you know, making sure they don't have access to
capital markets and don't have access to commerce, as is

(28:49):
your wont because you've got to you know, it comes
through things that you control, then therefore you can do it.
This is what the sanctions program has been in the
economic warfare. I'm still very upset that I don't know
they state a million and a half or one point
six million barrels. I think it's closer to two and
a half. People say it's maybe three. When they do
the Black market. They're basically giving I believe the Chinese

(29:11):
Commans party twenty two percent of their total energy intake,
and to me, that's always been unacceptable. I don't know
why we haven't cut that off. You've got three carrier battlegroups,
you have two carrier battle groups and the nimits steaming
from the Pacific through the Straits of Malacca to head
across the Indian Ocean to get to the North Arabian Sea.
It seems to me it wouldn't be that big a

(29:32):
difficulty to block at President Trump, I do believe is
given the Iranians, Hey, you got a shot here to
make a deal. It's not He's not looking for a ceasefire.
He's not looking for peace date. He's looking for your
eradication totally capacity of your nuclear weapons. And I think
if they take it and jump on it and meet
with Witkoff and try to figure something out quickly, basically

(29:54):
sign a document that he gives them, maybe with very
little changes, there's a possibility he won't age and combat operations.
But people have to understand that is being considered. So
just take that and take it on board today and
begin to think about it, like to hear more response
on this, BB. It's not about America first, about American

(30:15):
dead your response to that, because that was addressed to you, okay,
as much of the propaganda that comes out of Fox
is propaganda, so BB was hitting you right between the
eyes with a little love tap. So answer back, Mike Ndell,
is this going to have any isn't the bigger issue

(30:36):
here is not the defamation suit by this individual but
really the bigger suits that that Fox and others settled.
I think Newsmax are you still entangled? Are you still
entangling that.

Speaker 12 (30:48):
Or are they have they eased up?

Speaker 15 (30:50):
And what are your lawyers telling you about what happened
in Colorado towards that towards those cases?

Speaker 12 (30:57):
Sir?

Speaker 3 (30:58):
Well?

Speaker 18 (30:59):
Interesting you bring that up, Steve, because the lawyers for
at least two of the machine companies were there, and
the one of them is why are you here? Well,
you know they're watching everything close and because that breakthrough
that my pill had that we broke.

Speaker 3 (31:15):
That wall down and uh.

Speaker 18 (31:17):
And then you combine that with what our great president's
doing and with his executive order Tolci Gawer coming out
with all the stuff down that's going to be found
in the twenty twenty election. The stuff's all going to
get exposed to Eve. As you know, I'm never going
to stop the media was there now, Mike, are you
you know you've been here for a month. Are you

(31:38):
going to stop now? You know you're just relentless. I said,
absolutely not. We have to secure our election and save
our country so our great presidents. I promised him. I said,
we can't let the four years, these great, these next
four years be in vain. We've got to secure elections now.
And they but those machine companies sat right in that
courtroom the whole time.

Speaker 3 (31:58):
And that is the bigger picture everybody.

Speaker 18 (32:00):
And remember they also sued my Pillow for using promo codings.

Speaker 3 (32:05):
This is my business model.

Speaker 18 (32:06):
They went after my Pillow employee owned company, and you know,
just to suppress their voice. That's what lawfair is all about.
Everybody just came up in the courtroom where I believe
it was Alan Derschwitz had set it back in January
of twenty one. Lawfair had not been used this widespread
since the seventeen hundreds. I mean, they sued over one
hundred people and platforms and sent threatening letters out to

(32:30):
over one hundred and fifty people. And it's all about
suppressing our voice. There were very few places that I
could go and talk about our securing our elections and
that and Steve, it was your show most of you know,
they most of the time back in twenty one, when
we were all by ourselves and going, hey, there's problems,
there's problems. And I really think we broke that when

(32:53):
I went in there with prayers and put everything we
had into the into this fight out in Colorado. My
prayer was that my pillow. We had to have one breakthrough,
and my pillow was it. And I think that's gonna now.

Speaker 15 (33:07):
Like I say, Fox, when did Fox stop allowing you?
They stop booking you as a guest, because you were
all over Fox as an advertiser. When did they stop
booking you as a guest?

Speaker 18 (33:20):
They did it actually when Smart Manic sued Fox News
on February fourth of twenty twenty one.

Speaker 3 (33:27):
But Newsmax was the key to this case.

Speaker 18 (33:30):
What they did is they stopped having me on a
guest even to talk about my pillow. And that was
in April and early May of twenty one.

Speaker 3 (33:39):
That's when this guy that worked for this.

Speaker 18 (33:41):
Company here, this Komber, when they made this deal with Newsmacks.
I was never able to go on and talk about
my pillow giving money to the hurricane victims or the
flood victims, or you know, we tied ten percent.

Speaker 3 (33:54):
Of all our money at my pillow. That's written in
our bylaws.

Speaker 18 (33:57):
And to not be in hiring veterans and hire people,
me being an ex attic, hiring ex attics that giving
them second chances. I could never go on newsbacks any
more to talk about those things. And since that time
that got brought up in court. It cost my pill
over twenty million dollars over four years. And because they

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wanted to suppress my voice, so to me, they came
at me from every angle known to man. They canceled
all the box stores on my pillow, the shopping channels.

Speaker 3 (34:25):
They came at at every angle.

Speaker 18 (34:27):
Let's just destroy Mike Glendell and and my pillow. And
they almost succeeded, but we won. We we've broke it.

Speaker 3 (34:36):
That's right.

Speaker 15 (34:38):
Well, we got your back, by the way, That's what
I'm saying. Anybody says they're pure Maga and true Magan
been there from the beginning. Anybody took a paycheck from
Fox during that time. It just it's obvious because they
they turned on everybody to supported President Trump on the
big steal, which is essential. What did President Trump say
the reason he came back and ran? He said, this

(34:59):
is Charlie Kirk's turning point conference in Phoenix in December
of last year. He came in and he said. What
President Trump said is the reason he's still gonna say.
He said, the reason that I ran is because I
knew they had stolen the election and I had to
make things right. And this is why we got to

(35:20):
get to the bottom of the formal investigation of this.
You're not gonna You're not gonna do this until you
adjudicate this. Mike, Uh, we're burning daylight here. I got
to bounce. But sell me a pillows as a as
a congratulations for your victory, he sent, And you meet
a couple of dollars to pay your pay your fine
to this guy or whatever that you don't get an

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Speaker 15 (37:31):
Steve, Thank you brother. Look for you this afternoon. Glad
you're back from Denver. There's so much good going on,
you know. Miranda Divine on our new podcast of the
Great Marina Divine is interviewed our own Scott Besson, currently
the Secretary of the Treasury, in an exclusive interview. You're

(37:53):
going to play it when I talk about so many
good things are going on that are being distracted by
this by this war and understand war and peace. And
as I said from the beginning, we look at the
three verticals, the one that he's going to focus on
first and has to get done is to lay down.
Everybody lay down their guns on this kinetic part of
the Third World War which we're in. And President Trump
has tried to move heaven and earth on this thing.

(38:16):
And now that war has expanded, it's just you got
to call, you know, you got to call, like say,
it has expanded. President Trump's trying to shut that down.
White House is coming out and reiterating President Trump has
always said they can't have a nuclear weapon. I think
that's pretty consistent with everybody. President Trump's method of doing that,
which is going to be a combination of diplomacy but
not really opponents negotiation, using leverage, that leverage being economic warfare,

(38:41):
and it had to be, you know, eventually kinetic after
he ran out of every other option. He was adamant
though that he can't you can't have a nuclear weapon.
That's that's pretty state. But there's so much good stuff
going on. Number one is that there's an exclusive. We're
gonna get to it in a second. After the break,
blue collar wage growth under Trump see's largest increase in

(39:02):
nearly sixty years. Scott bess And lays it out to
The New York posta day into Marinda divine also on
the major front of this war, because one of the
three things is one is get our sovereignty back sealed
the border, which he's done hasn't we haven't gotten the
the hard material ceiling of it. But he's done it
with troops and with refocus of executive orders by customers

(39:26):
and border. But the mass deportations of folks people that
are here, the illegal alien vators that were brought here
and invited here by the Biden the illegitimate Biden regime,
because it all goes back to the stole election of
twenty twenty and on that with a little you know,
kind of oh my gosh, can we do this? President
Trump reiterated what's been happening in LA and I totally

(39:50):
agree with Stephen Miller. You can argue the future of
the country is going to be determined by what's happening
in the streets of Los Angeles as we go through
more mass deportation. Not simply the criminals and simply the
insane asylums, the bad ombras, but the mass deportations of
people that are here are not citizens. You know, Morning
Joe This Morning on MSNBC. Last night's CNN they're sitting

(40:12):
there going, oh, this is you know, terrible. The economy
is going to go down. Either have a country you don't.
And President Trump is hanging in there in this reversal
of the Agriculture Department trying to insert itself about the
mass deportations of agriculture workers and hot hotel works as
a restaurant work as well as we see in that
town in Nebraska when they've put out the help wanted,

(40:34):
it looks like it's being flooded with American citizens, as
Steve Cortez said, many of whom speak Spanish, right, they're Hispanics.
His polling yesterday is still blow away. Still it's about
mass deportations, not about immigration, about mass deportations, and the
support of the American people is simply overwhelming.

Speaker 12 (40:53):
Short breaks back in a moment.

Speaker 11 (40:58):
The good news, haven't you about blue collar wage growth?

Speaker 3 (41:02):
Blue collar wage growth?

Speaker 19 (41:03):
The only other time it's been this high, wait for it,
was during President Trump's first term. Huh, So we've seen
real wages for hourly workers non supervisory workers rise almost
two percent in the first five months.

Speaker 5 (41:19):
Why is that no president has done that before? And
why is that it's a president's emphasis on manufacturing. I
think there's also likely a component of whether it's twelve
or twenty million illegal aliens coming out of the workforce,
and Joe Biden opened the border and it was flooded,

(41:44):
and that we're working Americans. That's a disaster because it's
it's pressure on their wages.

Speaker 15 (41:54):
Wow, two percent wage increased murdered twenty nineteen for the
year I think of wages of the differential was huge
between blue collar and white collar, right between non college
graduate and college graduate.

Speaker 12 (42:07):
That was the time that the working class really got
a break.

Speaker 15 (42:11):
And now you see and part of this, we've even
just started the investments here from the companies to bring
manufacturing jobs back. Is it perfect, No, it's not perfect.
It ain't going to be perfect because this is called
the world that we live in. And what do I
mean by that. The concentration of power that took those

(42:32):
plants overseas and took those jobs overseas was a combination
of Wall Street of capital not just Wall Street, but
capital markets in the city of London, throughout Europe also
Asia to drive the to make an opportunity for the
Chinese companies party basically say hey, we actually have living
slaves right the law Baijing. That will work for nothing,

(42:55):
and we can just trash our environment because we're in
control here and you can make a ton of money.

Speaker 12 (43:00):
Just bring your factories over. And that's what happened.

Speaker 15 (43:02):
People know this bringing those back is a process, but
both bringing those back in the start what President Trump
is doing, in addition sealing the border, in addition starting
the deportations. Folks should know on the good news on
the major front of getting our sovereignty back. It's being
reported that one million and as Scott said, between the

(43:25):
twelve million and the twenty. Look, I'm only focused right
now on what came on and Biden's dreaming, Let's get
let's get those that was the invasion. Let's get that
out of here, right, Let's get those folks out of
here and we can deal with the rest. The rest
is could be up to forty or fifty million. But
we got to do this one bite at a time
and be focused, focused, focused. But look at the good
things are happening. Wages are starting to rise from blue

(43:47):
collar workers. That's the central part of this new coalition
we've put together. The old Republican Party was country club Republicans.
In Wall Street and all that crowd, right, they can't
win national elections. You have to put together new coalition.
We've put that coalition together. That's why President Trump were
in the tenth anniversary week. Aren't you still feeling the buzz?

(44:10):
And really want to thank Eric for coming on yesterday.
It was great to have him there and talk about
what it was like before they came down the escalator.
It's one of the biggest risk I think it's the
biggest risk personally any businessman has ever taken to actually
get into the cauldron, particularly with his personal Other businessmen run,
but I mean somebody with the that brought the media

(44:31):
stature of Trump and already the controversy of President Trump,
even the time as a meet for he was beloved.
But you know, Trump was Trump even then the apprentice,
things he had done in the casinos, things he had
done in the media landscape in New York. He was
a major personality in the in the eighties and nineties.
He dominated kind of the the the not just the

(44:53):
social scene, but the media sphere in New York City.
So he came as a large personality, came with huge
names recognition. Remember even with that name recognition. He was
on the top of the escalator in seventh coming down
after the speech to the American people, which he talked
about guess what, bringing Johns back from China and most

(45:14):
importantly sealing our border and stopping the invasion.

Speaker 12 (45:17):
That's the centerpiece of our movement.

Speaker 15 (45:19):
And we can only get those done if we're not
dragged into forever wars. We understand what the apparatus wants
to do. We understand their gravitational pull is always that,
that's always in everywhere. That's why you still have a
award that has been concluded in Korea. Remember what a

(45:40):
seventy year armistice on that. Now having an armists it's
just kind of a stand down. In Vietnam, all the valor,
by the way, the valid career unbelievable. You read those stories.
The valor in Vietnam incredible. If you saw the parade
the other day, one of the most moving things I
thought is when the Hueys came across everything those workhorses

(46:01):
had done in Vietnam and the memories that brings back.

Speaker 12 (46:04):
And floods people with the memories.

Speaker 15 (46:06):
Then you look at the first golf War, You've got
You've got the war, on global war and tera Iraq
and Afghanistan, all of it, all of them kind of
up in the air, not really brought to a conclusion.
And this is where President Trump his aim in Persia
was they cannot have nuclear weapons, full stop. Prepared to

(46:28):
negotiate with them.

Speaker 12 (46:29):
To do that.

Speaker 15 (46:30):
But at the end of the day, if you're going
to get there and they're going to laugh in your
face and spit in your face and not do it,
President Trump will use every tool in the toolbox.

Speaker 12 (46:39):
So that's where we are on this Friday.

Speaker 15 (46:41):
But to get back to the heart of it, the
heart of it, you see the economics start to kick in.
Big beautiful bill is being is being laid out. There's
some issues with that. The Senate Science Centater Josh Hawley,
who's kind of our one fire breathing populist in the Senate,
is to be here with that and other things.

Speaker 12 (47:02):
John Solomon.

Speaker 15 (47:02):
I was going to try to get Solomon up in
the beginning, kind of tea up, Mike Lindell, because he's
got a story.

Speaker 12 (47:08):
That will not amaze you.

Speaker 15 (47:10):
It will amaze you about why it's only coming out
now because I know you believed it in your heart
of hearts and that is the Chinese Communist Party was
engaged and involved in efforts to steal the twenty twenty election.
Why was that because they knew they had a new
sheriff in town, President Trump with Leitheiser and Navarre negotiating

(47:30):
for two years really from the spring early summer of
twenty seventeen until twenty nineteen Maya, twenty nineteen.

Speaker 12 (47:36):
In twenty nineteen, with a full.

Speaker 15 (47:38):
Deal negotiator for two years that would take care of
all the seven original sins, as we said, the Chinese
Commis Party economically would fold them into a global economy.
They ripped it up, spitting Trozen Trump's face and said
no deal. Shortly thereafter, some sort of flew a hit
in the military games around in Wuhan, the city of Wuhan.

(47:59):
That was in August and September of twenty nineteen. Then
in twenty twenty, the pandemic fully blew up around the
around the globe. Their effort was always to remove Trump
from office. The Chinese Communist Party and John Solomon is
bringing the receipts courtesy of cash btelit the FBI, which
I think released this last night. Okay, short commercial break

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