July 5, 2025 • 48 mins
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BEN BERGQUAMBEN
HARNWELL
PETE THIEL
DOC CHAMBERSP
HILLIP PATRICK
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Correctional rainfall dass Kerr County, Texas, Friday morning, causing flooding
from the Guadalupe River. The death toll has now risen
to twenty four people, and one death was also reported
in Kendall County. Rescue teams have been working through the
night to find survivors as more than twenty people remain
unaccounted for from a summer camp in Hunt, Texas. NBC's
(00:23):
Ryan Chandler is on the ground with more.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
In Central Texas. A catastrophic flood emergency.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
Is going to be a mash casualty event.
Speaker 4 (00:34):
Forties saying fourteen helicopters are in the air.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
One rescuer dangling from a shopper appearing to help someone
up in a tree as flooding rages below. Cars lifting
off the ground, swept away by the powerful waters. These
steps leading to a house that's no longer there.
Speaker 5 (00:52):
This is our house.
Speaker 4 (00:52):
Rider, another push down the road. The water started to
rise very ira and the Iravel along the river.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
A series of summer camps, the La Junta camp for boys,
posting that everyone is safe, but some girls at Camp
Mystic trapped.
Speaker 6 (01:07):
Now they're twenty some that aren't accounted for We're praying
for all of those missing to be found alive.
Speaker 7 (01:16):
You can feel the anxiety here as parents are waiting
to hear a word about their child. We're told that
these children are being transported by helicopter, the only way out.
Speaker 8 (01:26):
Of the camp.
Speaker 4 (01:27):
As parents wait to hear they return safely.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
The county judge pressed on why the camps weren't evacuated.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
We knew all Why were.
Speaker 9 (01:35):
These chance evacuated?
Speaker 4 (01:37):
I can't answer that.
Speaker 9 (01:38):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
These camps weren't Arm's way.
Speaker 8 (01:40):
We knew the flows.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
We didn't know this flood was coming. That's sure.
Speaker 4 (01:45):
No one knew this kind of flood was coming.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
The tight knit Texas towns across Kirk County are popular
recreation areas. Lenn clenden In and Rory Higgins were camping
asleep in their cabin when the water started rushing in.
Speaker 5 (01:58):
Everything happened so terribly fast.
Speaker 6 (02:00):
There was mobile homes, travel trailers, cabins.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
Vehicles, people in the water.
Speaker 8 (02:08):
It was It was devastating.
Speaker 4 (02:10):
They took this video showing a building from the.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Campground washing away their beloved Border Colie Ripper is still missing.
Speaker 4 (02:18):
Blood threats were.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
In place because drenching rain flooded the riverhead. Massive amounts
of water got pushed downstream. At one point National Weather
Service data showing the water rising nearly thirty feet in
one hour. This region near the Guadalupe River is no
stranger to floods. In nineteen eighty seven, rapidly rising water
killed ten people that stalled out and the.
Speaker 10 (02:42):
Water was sud that starting.
Speaker 11 (02:43):
It was real nat So we were going to try
to get out and get to the road clean, going.
Speaker 4 (02:47):
Too far back and.
Speaker 8 (02:50):
It started washing people away.
Speaker 4 (02:52):
It was supposed to be a holiday celebration is now
a nightmare.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
This came a night before and dead.
Speaker 8 (03:01):
Please play food.
Speaker 9 (03:04):
Original forecast that we received on Wednesday from the National
Weather Service predicted three to six inches of rain in
the Concho Valley and four to eight inches of rain
in the Hill country. We worked with our own meteorologists
to fine tune that weather statement, and as many of
you know, and many of you in broadcast journalism indieurology,
you can go back and look at your own forecast,
(03:26):
and the amount of rain that fell in this specific
location was never in any of those forecasts.
Speaker 11 (03:30):
This rain event sat on top of that and dumped
more rain than what was forecasted on both of those forks.
When we got the report, it was about seven feet
or so on the South Fork, and within a matter
of minutes it was up to twenty nine feet and
all of that converged at the Guadaloupe and that's where
we saw those very quick rise and flood.
Speaker 4 (03:50):
But listen to everybody.
Speaker 9 (03:51):
Got the forecast from the National Weather Service, right, you
all got it. You're all in media.
Speaker 4 (03:56):
You got that forecast.
Speaker 9 (03:57):
It did not predict the amount of rain that we saw.
Speaker 5 (04:03):
This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray
for our enemies because we're going to medieval on these people.
You've not got a free shot.
Speaker 6 (04:14):
All these networks lying about the people, the people have
had a belly full of it.
Speaker 5 (04:19):
I know you don't like hearing that. I know you
tried to do everything in the world to stop that,
but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen.
Speaker 4 (04:25):
And where do people like that go to share the
big line?
Speaker 8 (04:28):
Mega media?
Speaker 9 (04:29):
I wish in my soul, I wish that any.
Speaker 8 (04:32):
Of these people had a conscience.
Speaker 12 (04:35):
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
If that answer is to save my country? This country
will be saved.
Speaker 8 (04:45):
Worry use your host, Stephen.
Speaker 5 (04:47):
K Bas Saturday, five July in the Year of Our
Lord twenty twenty five. Normally, as you know, when we
do fourth of July and then fourth of July weekend
is always the fifth we carry over our coverage talking
about the foundation of the country and also the revolutionary
(05:09):
war that was upon the signers. So much pressing business today,
we're not even We had a cold open all set
for the great Signing ceremony and the flyover and the fireworks.
But there's many big stories that I know this audience
needs to focus on, including I think a rapidly expanding
(05:33):
war in Ukraine and also this biblical level tragedy down
in a Cerrville, Texas and around the Guadalupe River. We've
got a whole team down there. Ben Berkwam is on location.
Let's go to Let's go to Ben Ben. You just
informed us is going to be another press conference because
(05:53):
information coming out is very sketchy. We found out last
night that there were twenty three I think young girls.
I think forty people missing overall, but twenty three I
think third graders from the bubble ind over at the
Mystic camp that we're missing. It's kind of sketchy. Some
things have been up on line this morning about how
many of those children have been recovered. I haven't heard
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of any being rescued. There's gonna be another press conference also,
I wanted to include. I thought it was important our
producers did. There's already so there's a search and rescue.
All this equipment's coming in. These brave individuals. We had
Colonel Chambers Doc Chambers on last night. You've got people
running to the sound of the guns to find these children,
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to rescue them, and others adults and also then livestock
all of that. But there's also already accountability finger pointing
whether it was the weather forecast, wireland close. So we're
going to cover both these. Ben get us up today.
You rushed there from Iowa and it couldn't celebrate Fourth
of July with your family. Really appreciated. What do you
(06:58):
got for us this morning? Okay, we don't.
Speaker 13 (07:08):
Have been hooked up on Yeah, Steve, Yeah, I was
actually on my way home Fluid Houston was driving up
almost to text Arcana and got the message from you
and turned around rerouted down here. Got a lot of
friends in this area.
Speaker 5 (07:20):
And so we went to the location.
Speaker 13 (07:25):
I just want to get out of the shot here
for a second, just to show you how you know
the level of devastation, and we'll talk more about the details,
but this is right downtown Currville, and I was just
gonna turn the camera just show you so that where
I'm standing right now, I'm about twenty feet above the river,
and I would have been underwater. This entire area here
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was underwater. Turned back this way towards one of the bridges,
you could just see. And this is what they're going
through right now. Rescue efforts. They're having to comb through
all of this debris, all the trees down.
Speaker 5 (08:01):
You know, the closest thing.
Speaker 13 (08:02):
I could equate it to is what I saw in
North Carolina and.
Speaker 4 (08:09):
Tennessee.
Speaker 13 (08:09):
Not on the same scale, but when you see just
trees snapped like twigs, and just a reference point to
give you an idea of the water level. In some
areas it went over thirty feet. But that tree right there,
you can see it snapped. Where some of the limbs
are broken. The top where that the bark is ripped
off is basically where the water line was. And what
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we're hearing is the major disaster. You know, it's really
it is. It's really a tragedy on multiple levels. Finger
Pointing is gonna happen. It always happens in these things.
The rain totals, the estimates seem to be a little
bit low. They got over five inches here. Some areas
are reporting over eight inches, some ten inches. Just a
(08:58):
massive amount of water. In fact, that storm is still circulating.
Austin's getting hammered right now and that's going to continue,
and it looks like it's actually going to come back
down this air to this area over the next twenty
four hours. So we're keeping an eye on that because
all of that hampers the rescue efforts. The last numbers
I heard, and I will be at that press conference
at ten am. Just down the road. Mystic Camp is
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about twenty minutes up the road. It's inaccessible. It's about
an hour now because you have to go out and around.
It's all shut down for the rescue efforts. But that
recovery effort still ongoing. But it's still ongoing all the
way down here. The problem is they don't know how
far people wash down the river, So we're talking about
a several hundred mile swath and those are the people
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that they know about. Last numbers I got from somebody
involved with search and rescue last night was twenty are
still missing. Twenty children. That's total, that's not just from
the Mystic camp. That's total for Kerr County. And then
thirty to forty adults as well. That's the most up
to date number I have. That will probably change. Hopefully
we get a better update at ten am Local time
(10:01):
eleven am Eastern.
Speaker 5 (10:05):
Yeah, we'll cover that live. Here's the thing is that
what has been reported as the river rose because it
is different than Appalachia and then western North Carolina and Tennessee.
But the river rose twenty six feet in forty five minutes,
and then it continued to rise I think overall forty
(10:26):
to forty two feet within like an hour to two hours.
So the rise and you see there from the thing,
it just caught everybody surprise, and I guess the pre
dawn hours of three to five o'clock in the morning.
But the rise of the river so rapidly was really
like a wall of water coming down on the Guadaloupe.
And that's what washed out the question about should these
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things have been evacuate all that what they're saying, Hey,
it was the middle of the night. They're pointing fingers
to the National Weather Service, of pointing fingers to other
weather forecasters, et cetera. Do we at ten o'clock or
they going to have a bigger because whatever he's focused on,
obviously is this these children from this camp. It was
reported there were twenty three nine year olds. Do you
(11:10):
have any update nine year old girls? Do you have
any update on that?
Speaker 13 (11:14):
Yeah, the most up to date numbers I have are
what I just said, twenty total is twenty plus, So
I heard anywhere between twenty four and twenty six. Now
I hope those are old numbers. The guy spoke to
is involved with the rescue efforts. That's what he told
me last night. We're anticipating getting updated numbers this morning.
I think the big thing they don't want to give
false information and then have to come back and say otherwise.
(11:37):
You know, when this first happened, you were messaging me
and saying, hey, we're hearing one hundred kids are missing.
And that's the problem with a lot of these disasters,
as you start getting speculation on top of what's already
a tragedy. And so I think they're being very careful
about making sure whatever numbers they give out as are
accurate numbers. Yeah, as they should, as they absolutely should.
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And then look, just going back to this, what happened.
You know, it's just the perfect storm. It just happened
to be eighty percent of the year. The way that
this river is set up, the way that most of
the communities are built up around here, Hill Country is
used to flooding. This is just you know, they're talking
about this being one of the one hundred year flood scales.
This is massive. It was unexpected. It kind of came
(12:20):
out of nowhere with the storm. I mean, we knew
a couple days in advance, but the way it just
sat over here again kind of similar to what we
saw in North Carolina and Tennessee. That storm just sat
on top of them. Nobody expected the amount that they had.
And then the big, the big concern they had was, well,
now that we know that the river's rising so rapidly,
do we try to do a mass evacuation and then
(12:41):
potentially have more fatalities, more injuries because people are trying
to drive through flooded areas, or do we keep people
sheltered in place and so it seems like there was
some confusion understandably during those first few minutes and hours
on who to have shelter in place and who to
have evacuated, and then how to reach those people and
(13:02):
which places were the most devastated. We do know this,
the Texas Emergency Management team was already on site. They
had the swift water or rescue boats on site, They
were ready to go. They knew something could happen. They
just nobody anticipated the scale that it would happen at
and the quickness that this happened at. And the saddest
part of this is it just happened on the wrong
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weekend where most of these camps are in operation. Everybody's
coming down here to celebrate the Fourth of July, and
so it was just, you know, it's just a terrible,
terrible tragedy. And now they're what they The requests that
I've been given by emergency Management, by Sheriff here in
Kirk County is if you are not a part of
the rescue efforts, please don't come.
Speaker 5 (13:44):
You know, one of the problems.
Speaker 13 (13:45):
We get in a lot of these disasters is you
get some of the you know, people just coming down
to take a look, they end up clogging the roads.
They had problems yesterday people blocking roads to take pictures
and to film. And just if you're not a part
of the rescue efforts, please don't come right now until
they find every one of these missing children and missing adults.
That is their number one focus.
Speaker 5 (14:08):
Doc Chambers are going to try to get Ben if
you can stick around, If you can still get to
the I'll talk to you in the break. If you
still get to the press conference, Doc Chambers is going
to also join us. He's saying that there's been one
hundred and twenty rescues since the press conference last night,
so we'll We've got Doc Chambers up I think the
Congressman ship boy is down there, even Jason Jones, who
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lives in the areas down there. So we're going to
try to get some folks up here and get some details.
Ben Berkham is with us heading to the press conference.
Short commercial break. Philip Patrick's going to join us at
the bottom of the hour from Rio about the Rio
reset and the de dollarisation program of the Bricks Nations.
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All next in the war room.
Speaker 14 (14:52):
Briens of Rules by Freedoms, last the Marry.
Speaker 8 (15:00):
Here's your host, Stephen k Back.
Speaker 5 (15:08):
Okay, welcome back. We cut Ben berkwom loose of Ben
berkwhomb can get to Kerville and actually get to the
press conference that's going to take place at eleven o'clock.
The one last night was actually I thought pretty informative
given the lack of a lot of information. They had
one thing, you can tell already to some debate between
what the forecasts were and what was told to people.
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So we're gonna make sure we get to all that. Also,
Doc Chambers, who was with us last night. We're going
to try to get Doc Chambers on here in a
moment soon as we can get him up. Also, Peter
Theo is one of these rescue groups that rode to
the sound of the guns immediately. Peter Theo is going
to also join us, and we're going to get some clarification,
(15:52):
particularly on the search and rescue right now kind of
up in the air. I think search and rescue is
still twenty plus of the children. Now they're saying that
maybe all the children not just from the camp, but
all the children lost in this tragedy on the Guadalupe River.
As I said, a rain still for the Hill Country
Texas area has just heard of Ben Burkham maybe doubled
(16:15):
back on Curvell. I think what the question is is
what you know this river twenty six feet in forty
five minutes is nothing short of biblical. You've seen some
of the footage how it came ripping through and not
just expanded the width of the river, but the depth
and the velocity of water going down was nothing short
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of biblical. Then they said forty two feet I think
in an hour and an hour and a half. And
so that's where you see this tragedy unfolding before you.
Like I said, Peter t O and Doc Chambers, as
soon as you get them up from the Field's tough
getting a signal down there, but we want to make
sure we're on top of this because I think it's
one of the most important stories in the world. Also,
(16:58):
Ben Harnwell is going to has been up, has been
up yet correct production team. The Ben's going to join
us President Trump in this kind of victory after victories,
had win after win. President Trump was had a call
with putin the other day of which he was working,
(17:19):
you know, to whip the vote. He had a call
put another day and it didn't go very well. If
he read the axios, I think had the most accurate.
It's that at the end Putin told Trump, he said, hey, look,
I want to have a bide lateral I want to
have a bide lateral negotiation here and essentially butt out.
President Trump said later was not a good call. President
Trump had already stopped the Pentagon, had stopped additional weaponry
(17:41):
because we're after the Israeli situation with the Iranians. The
Persians were down THAD missiles I think twenty five percent
the Patriot missiles that were used in Qatar to shoot
down and also the patriots who gave Israel were down
Patriots and were taken him out of Korea. In the Pacific.
We told the Ukraine we can't you know, we can't
draw down our stocks anymore now because of the phone call,
(18:04):
and also the battering of Kiev by the battering of
Kiev by the Russians the other night. I think the
most brutal of all the bombardments, drones, missiles, aircraft strikes
in Kiev was the other night. I think it was
Thursday night.
Speaker 4 (18:22):
Brutal.
Speaker 5 (18:23):
Today the Atlantic magazine, Ben Harnweld joins us from Rome
The Atlantic magazine has an Apple bomb who is no
fan of the war Room, no phan of Maga, no
fan of America first non intervention, and particularly she detests
Donald Trump. She's got a piece in the Atlantic Band
that says Trump is switching sides, and we're going to
(18:45):
ask you how she drives that. But she does have
a buried leader that with Poso has been talking about
Putin's actually, and this is supposed to be for an
army that was beaten. This is what the media has
told us, a summer offensive of six hundred and seventy
five a thousand combat troops for a massive front in Ukraine.
Ben Harnwell, can you gets up to speed on everything
(19:08):
is happening? Because I think this one, as much as
President Trump's trying to step in and haveever you put
their guns down, I think this one could be rapidly
spinning out of control, sir, Okay, Ben, You've got it
on mute? I think okay, do we have Ben? Okay,
(19:31):
We're gonna get these right eventually. Ben Harnwell, you off mute?
Are we set up? Okay, We're gonna get Ben. Put
back up? Okay, Ben Harnwall, are you there?
Speaker 11 (19:47):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (19:47):
I'm here. Can you hear me loud and claim?
Speaker 10 (19:50):
Have you got me?
Speaker 5 (19:51):
I can hear you next time unhooked? Mute either Denver
or Rome, take your pick. Okay? Is Ant Applebaum right?
Are the Russians getting ready for six hundred and seventy
five thousand man off summer offensive? Sir well, I think
she is right on that, Steve. But let's just quickly
do the chronology if I may.
Speaker 10 (20:10):
On the night before US Independence Day celebrations, it's just
as you say. Thursday, President Trump had an hour long
phone call with President Putin, and let's go textually to
what he said. President Trump said, it's a very tough situation.
I was very unhappy with my call with President Putin.
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He wants to go all the way just killing people.
It's no good that, Steve contrasts with the phone call
that he had with President Zelenski, which he actually basically
agreed to pretty much to all of President Zelenski's requests,
that is, to increase Ukraine's air capacity to vent itself
at the air cover, specifically providing the US Patriot missiles,
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which he alluded to about ten days ago, which he said,
let's see if we can get them these missiles which
they're going to pay for. So this would very much
tie into that position. And then Steve, you've got this
situation that the six ninety five thousand troops build up
on the Ukraine border.
Speaker 8 (21:13):
Steve, my hesitation here.
Speaker 10 (21:15):
My issue with this here is that President Trump is
already being dragged into this, as he has been being
dragged into this really by both sides in this war,
specifically Ukraine, since the inauguration. I look at these timings
of these dates and really from what I can gather, Steve,
within a few moments of his phone call with President
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Putin finishing President Putin, this is, as I say, on
Thursday launched the largest drone and ballistic missile attack to
date on Kiev and Ukraine.
Speaker 8 (21:51):
And this isn't very.
Speaker 10 (21:52):
Good, I think for President Trump, who's trying to be
the deal maker, he's trying to get be the man
of peace, but he's finding himself ground in between these
two cogs. And therefore, as we've been covering on the
wound for the last few days, he is in this
situation which has a certain escalatory as far as the
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US is concerned.
Speaker 15 (22:14):
Momentum, Ben, talk to me, then, do you think, how
do we avoid being dragged into this even more?
Speaker 5 (22:25):
I mean, President Trump want to stop this. Twenty four
hours he admitted it was more complicated than that. He
now it looks like he made a decision that, hey,
we're going to tell both sides that we took a
shot at this, but we're not going to re arm
the Ukrainians. We're going to make the Europeans rearmed the Ukrainians.
President Trump goes to NATO. The entire five percent, let's
(22:47):
be brutally frank about this, going up to five percent,
is directly tied to NATO into their fear of Russia.
We haven't forced the Europeans right now, are we getting
as non interventional and Ukraine being even I think a
higher priority of getting out of than the Middle East,
although we don't want any, you know, no more regime
(23:08):
change in the Middle East and press Trump's kind of
a great job of that, in fact, telling the Israelis
were shutting down Gaza. Are we getting sucked into this
moment by moment and we're getting sucked in by Putin?
Speaker 10 (23:21):
Well, it's difficult to know. I don't think Putin is
trying to suck America in. I think it's Ukraine, and
it's not really in Putin's interest to get you guys.
Speaker 8 (23:30):
Sucked in, but you are getting sucked into this war.
Speaker 10 (23:35):
And in answer to your question is to how to
de escalate the situation and to de escalate America's involvement
in this situation. Really, President Trump, I think has to
fulfill his commitment in the campaign, which he now claims
to have been sort of sarcasm. But many people who
supported him in the in the election campaign didn't take
our sarcasm and supported him for that. And that is
(23:57):
basically to withdraw the United States within twenty four hours.
If it's not possible, Steve for President Trump to act
as the peace boker here and negotiate a ceasefire, the
next best thing he can do is to stop this
war continuing, and that is by stopping to supply one
of the two sides, which is to say Ukraine. Now,
(24:18):
last week he did say that he was stopping some
weapons and some missiles, and he threw the justification to
that to depleting US stockpiles, but it wasn't a total
closure of US provision. Of course, what he was going
to continue to provide or not hadn't been defined, and
(24:39):
it looks as if what he is going to continue
to supply is the Patriot missiles. This is not a
de escalatory path, Steve. That's the issue here. This is
not a de escalatory path. If President Trump really wants
to achieve peace, then you know it's America that is
keeping this war going, right.
Speaker 8 (25:00):
I think President.
Speaker 10 (25:00):
Trump has to fulfill what he said he would do
in the campaign. Stop arming Ukraine definitively, and then the
Ukrainians will see since when they realized that that.
Speaker 8 (25:09):
The munitions, but we're just stop committed. But I negotiate.
Speaker 5 (25:13):
But he tried. He tried. By the way, I'm gonna
have to go back to the We're gonna go back
to Kerville and the next thing. Then we got real,
I need you to stick around because I've got to
drill down more. President Trump had the conversation with Putin
and then that night they unleashed the worst bombardment on
the KIV after the President said, hey, I need you.
(25:33):
It was like BB hitting the the Persians after they
announced the ceasefire, and then Putin announced us to Trump
on the call, Hey I just want to do this
by lotterly. I don't need your involvement. They've jammed. They
put the President United States, who's trying to be a
peacemaker and try to be fair to both sides. They
put him in a terrible situation, just a terrible situation
(25:54):
for the simple fact of after you have a conversation
with him and then you do the biggest bombardment. Anyway, Ben,
hang on, I'm gonna get to you after the eleven o'clock.
Our very jammed. Today. We're going to go to Rio
for the Bricks conference. We got a press conference coming
up from Kerrville. We have Peter Theal and Doctor Chambers.
Not that Peter Theal, but the head of operations one
(26:14):
of the rescue groups is going to be with us.
And we also have Doc Chambers from last night, the
former the retired lieutenant colonel, and the Green Berets all
down there on search and rescue and helping folks out.
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Speaker 14 (26:52):
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Speaker 8 (27:00):
Use your host, Stephen K.
Speaker 5 (27:02):
Bat Okay, let's go down back to Doc Chambers. Doc,
we had you on last night before the press conference.
Press conference, good information, kind of depressing. Can you give
us an update on where we are in search and rescue?
Speaker 6 (27:17):
Sir Roger That, Yeah, we had over two hundred and
sixty rescues yesterday. This is a positive note. Obviously, we're
looking at one hundred and some of those were hoists,
so this is what we call a JP jungle penetrator type.
The old comes down from the helicopter with a operator
at the bottom of the line. Somebody pulls them up
(27:38):
through the tree line. Because this is triple canopy in someplace,
there's lots of foliage in the area. So that's a
positive note. Unfortunately, you do have to report that we're
at about twenty four right now unconfirmed, twenty four to
twenty six deaths reported expected to rise till twenty five
missing expected to rise, but we're nearing those numbers down
(27:58):
as we speak, so those are just unconfirmed that they
are close to the right numbers.
Speaker 5 (28:04):
What is of the twenty five? What's the status of
the Mystic Girls camp They were saying last night twenty
to twenty three. Is that still an accurate number that
had not been the search and rescue had not located.
Is that still been accounting?
Speaker 7 (28:17):
We have.
Speaker 6 (28:20):
No because over the ninth we were reporting all the
way through zero three hundred. This morning, yeah, there were
about seven that I saw that were sent to me.
I have not got those numbers yet. I'm on my
way to Mystic. We've had a lot of stops along
the way. Understand, this is still going on. It's the
Geen area, Lake mcqueeney. Is that there's a deluge of
rain down from us, so it's adding to the problem set.
(28:43):
But we're controlling what we can here and then we'll
continue to move to that location. But first I'll hit
Mystic and be out there conducting some support out there,
ministry support with some of the families.
Speaker 5 (28:55):
Let's bring a peat teal. Hang on, doc, let's got
a peat teal from the minute Man disaster relief I
think joins us by phone. Oh no, there we have him, Pete.
Can you give us an update on a disaster relief,
search and rescue, anything you know.
Speaker 16 (29:10):
I agree with what what the previous guy said. I
was at the operations center there were they were did
the operational briefing this morning. I don't have any additional
numbers to what he said. Those are are in line
with what I'm aware of.
Speaker 5 (29:27):
When you say in line, this is I just the
question last night I think they said. I think they
reported at Mystic, at the Bubble End or one of
the sub camps at Mystic, that there were twenty to
twenty three nine year old girls. Is that was last night?
Not the correct answer. That's what the media is been,
that that had been unaccounted for. Where there are there
(29:48):
still twentys this morning.
Speaker 16 (29:52):
I don't want to say that definitively because I can't
tell you sure, but yes, that is my understanding. I
was an eight nine year old camp and a couple
of the the camp buildings were swept away. Is what
I understand.
Speaker 5 (30:05):
What is search and rescue still going on? Correct?
Speaker 16 (30:10):
Yes it is right now. I believe I'm probably on
the same highway as Lieutenant Colonel is. There are a
number of state police and ambulances, number of game warden
trucks just ro by me here while I was talking
with you. The sturch and rescue is still going on,
although I think at this point it might be more
recovery than the search and rescue.
Speaker 5 (30:28):
Unfortunately, where how tough has this search and rescue been?
Given the the biblical nature of this flash flood? How
tough has it been? Pete Teal.
Speaker 16 (30:43):
I have not been involved in the search and rescue personally,
but just trying to turn around in a truck. The mud,
the mud and muck is is unbelievable. The level of damage.
I I this is like a hurricane. There are thousands
of trees that have been stripped, there are mattresses in trees.
(31:07):
There's the height of the flood level. This is unbelievable.
They have been using jeeps, they've been using dogs as
much as they can with the mud. I mean, every
asset is being used. There was an offer this morning
from a group that has assessed the three thirty seven
(31:28):
with search and rescue package with infrared and everything. I
don't know if that's coming over, but every asset the
state has, I believe, has been pushed here. The number
at the staging area, the incidente command post that we're
probably three hundred vehicles of people that are here that
are state officials rather than just volunteers that we're for
search and rescue. The magnitude of the response from the
(31:50):
State of Texas is amazing. This is what makes America
great is that people come help each other.
Speaker 5 (31:58):
Dot Chambers one of the questions last night about people
being notified, and one of the officials said that, hey,
this area has a history of flooding in your memory,
is this the biggest has happened recently? Twenty years, thirty years?
The biggest in memory? I mean, how big is this
compared to other events that this area has had the Guadalupe.
Speaker 6 (32:19):
River great question, twenty years, this is the highest one
in record now, but understand this is the longest in
the corridor of the Guadalupe. We're looking at probably seventy
miles as the crow flies, hundreds of miles one hundred
and twenty miles of river as it curves. So we're
looking at all those low laning areas. And remember all
these camps that were plussed up for Fourth of July holiday,
(32:42):
that was the evacuation problem set and now when we're
spreading those forces thin as Pete was mentioning I'm out
here with them, and these guys are running up and
down the roads. So are civilian groups. You know, the
Cajun navies coming in from Louisiana. There's some great folks.
This is what we're dealing with. The thermals are the
key for the night time and daytime. The problem set
for some of these areas further down is the is
(33:04):
the amount of rain that they're still receiving, deluge of
rain over Lake mcqueeney so that they won't be able
to work there. But from their back yes, there will
be up with those fixed wing and rotary wings.
Speaker 5 (33:18):
Doc Chambers, where do people your sit reps have been amazing?
Where do people go that weren't in the audience last night?
Where do people go to keep up with this? Understanding?
Your heading up to the mystic camp right now? So
how do people keep in touch with you on social
media to get your sit reps? Affirmative?
Speaker 16 (33:34):
Sir?
Speaker 6 (33:34):
Well, what you look is Doc Pete Chambers on X
and then I have the Remnant Ministry TX dot org.
That's what we'll be totally posting things as where well,
but on X is the primary right now. I'll be
doing probably probably every couple hours as I can. Just
a short thirty second spot.
Speaker 5 (33:56):
Okay, perfect, thank you, we'll post those up and make
sure we stream thank you, Doc, appreciate you, yeah, pe
teel before we let you go. Anything to make our
audience smart as the day they look at social media
or continue to follow the stream here on Real America's Voice.
Anything to make us smart about how this search and
rescue is going, Sir.
Speaker 16 (34:19):
I don't have anything in particular. Miniman Disaster Response is
an all volunteer group that helps people clean up after
major events. We have not done a full deployment yet.
We're down here assessing the situation to see if we'll
be going. So, I mean, just the the level of
damage here is is just it's overwhelming. But I we
(34:42):
don't have a public web page where we put sit
reps on. Uh, so I can't add on that.
Speaker 5 (34:49):
Do you have do you have social media? You guys
on Twitter, We're on Facebook.
Speaker 16 (34:55):
I believe we're on Instagram. It should be this Mini
Man Disaster Response. I don't know about Twitter. Kay, Well, just.
Speaker 5 (35:03):
We'll send everybody over well, so that's okay. We'll send
everybody over to your Facebook or your your Instagram Pete,
thank you so much for joining us. I know you're
busy this morning, so thank you for taking a few minutes.
Speaker 16 (35:15):
Yep, thank you. Goodbye.
Speaker 5 (35:18):
There'll be a press conference at There will be a
press conference at at eleven o'clock eastern daylight time. We
will jump into that and get some updates on this.
Jason Jones is down there, the congressman trip where is
down there? We'll get some other input in the second hour.
Let's go to as soon as we get more information.
Obviously we'll inform everybody. Let's go to Brazil to Rio.
(35:41):
You know, yesterday on Drudge for the entire day of
fourth of July until late in the day after President
Trump signed the signed the big beautiful bill and had
this amazing ceremony Philip Patrick. The headline the Drudge lead
was dollar has worst opening six months I think in
history twenty years, you know, the drop of the dollar.
(36:03):
You're at the conference, and I'm sure that came from
the d dollarsation movement of Brooks. What exactly has gone
on down in real What are the bricks Nations organizing?
We're getting ready to kick off this conference. You've been
down for a couple of days get us up to speed.
Speaker 3 (36:18):
Yeah, look, it's interesting. It's hustle and bustle. We've been out.
We're watching dinners between Chlie's delegates and Brazilian real estate developers.
Deals are happening all over the place. The dollar is
certainly a topic of conversation, as you rightly point out,
a worst start for the year since nineteen seventy three,
(36:38):
since we came off the gold standard, dollars lost ten
and a half percent of its purchasing power, So you
know it's looking primed for the bricks and their plans
longer term. We had a very interesting interview with an
economics professor yesterday heavily involved in the bricks leadership, and
learn a lot in that conversation about different motivations for
(37:02):
different bricks companies countries, sorry, particularly Brazil. So there is
a feeling here of excitement and that things are moving forward.
Speaker 5 (37:16):
Is explained to the audience. We know during Biden's time,
is this flow over from Biden? Because President Trump puts
out the big, beautiful built and clearly it has some
defenits in there. They've asked for a five tree dollars,
a lift to the to the debt, ceiling, But the
global capital markets kind of took this. The ten year
treasuries slightly down, Gold's been kind of stable, the stock
(37:39):
market's on a run again. Why explain to the audience
why does the dollar keep losing value relatives some of
these other currencies, Because this is one of the things
the bricks are saying. If we can't do another currency,
we've got to figure out some way to dedollarize, Right,
We've got to get away from the dollar being the
center of world currency trade. So why has the dollar
(38:01):
contained terry? Why have we had the worst six months
since we came off the gold standard under Nixon?
Speaker 3 (38:08):
Look, I think there's a number of reasons. Right. It
started in twenty twenty two with Biden's weaponization of the dollar,
and ultimately it showed nations around the world that they
have risk. But I think what I'm learning here is
people misunderstand what the bricks really are. Right. The argument
that I always hear is, look, they're not politically aligned, right,
India and Trya can't agree on anything. And the sort
(38:33):
of acceptance of that on the ground I mentioned. I
was interviewing an economics professor and he said, look, you
know the idea of viewing them as a political unit
is the wrong way to look at it. They are
not a block, right. They don't have a chairman, they
don't have a CEO, they don't have a board of directors,
and importantly they don't have agenders to vote on. What
they are instead is a group of countries that have
(38:54):
come together to basically help one another out right with trade,
development projects and love. There's a feeling here of mutual
cooperation because I think on the whole Bricks nations feel
snubbed by the West and now they with China leading
the way, they have a lot of clout. Remember they've
got bigger GDP now than the G seven. So they're
(39:14):
not politically aligned, but they are aligned in one area
and that is and this is a direct quote from
the from the professor himself, and he was not anti Western,
I want to be very clear. But the aim here
in their mind is to diminish power of the West.
And it was very shocking to hear until he started
to explain the background right and from an inside of
(39:38):
Bricks perspective, it started to make a lot more sense,
and that is that BRICKS members want different things. Right
for China, it's all about power, right. They don't want
a direct economic war with the West or Europe. They
still do a lot of business with US, but they
do want to become a global leader, and they do
want to recover Taiwan. The question is how much of
their wealth do they want tai up in US dollars
(40:01):
when they try that. So they're very motivated to break
dollar dominance. For Russia, it's about economic security from sanctions. Right.
For Brazil, in his mind, it was a little more nuanced. Right.
They still harbor resentments about deals offered by the IMF
when they were struggling in the eighties and nineties, essentially
loans with too many strings attached. Right. Those difficult experiences
(40:24):
during times of crises, I think make them open to alternatives.
They see themselves, as the professor himself says, as a
bridge between the global north and south, right, to act
as a moderator, balancing between China and the West. This
is basically their opportunity to seize a global role. The
point being they all want different things that they united
(40:47):
around the.
Speaker 5 (40:47):
Common hang on, hang on one second, that common purpose
is diminished to West sharp break Philip Patrick Coromrio.
Speaker 8 (40:56):
Next Warrior confuse your host.
Speaker 5 (41:01):
Stephen k Maat, Okay, thank you. We were covering Rio Curville, Texas.
We're gonna go there momentary are going to be a
press conference. We're also covering the kickoff to the Great
Election Integrity Conference. They heard Hotel Mett Mech and the
team in Las Vegas. I'll be giving the closing remarks
(41:22):
tonight eight to eight thirty Eastern daylight time five five
thirty out there in Las Vegas. Also we have Philip
Patrick and Rio. So Philip, the mechanisms that they're talking about,
we understand they want to diminish the power of the West,
although they each have individual agendas. We also understand although
the black hand of the Chinese Commis parties in back
(41:43):
of this, we understand that they are not fans of
the US dollar being the prime reserve currency for many reasons.
So what are the mechanisms that you're hearing the conferences
A couple of days, you're in breakout sessions, You're getting
you know, interviews with the top people there. What are
you learning about the mechanisms of how Because the audience
(42:03):
needs to understand this not just for the geopolitical and
geoeconomic direction of the country, but also for their own
personal financial use. Sir.
Speaker 3 (42:13):
Yeah, it's been very interesting, right. You know, for me,
it was always the plan was de dollarization. But what's
becoming clear is de dollarization isn't the plan. The plan
is to diminish the power of the West. That's the
ultimate endgame, and de dollarization is a means to an end.
But you see it clearly when you look at the
systems that they've created, because the systems are set up
(42:35):
to combat their weaknesses. For example, the bricks don't have
political unity, right, there's a lack of mutual trust between
their governments and their central banks. So what are they doing?
Massive central bank gold buying. Remember last year gold has
become the number two global reserve asset, so gold is
replacing the dollar as a store of value in central
(42:57):
banks reserves. Essentially, gold is becoming the national savings account
if you will. Right, they need cross border trade, that
sanction and Western oversight resistance. What have they built? They
built swift alternatives, one open source, one propriety, firewalled from
US control. They want to use local currencies for trade, right,
(43:20):
but they don't want to keep them right enter Mbridge.
This is a digital clearing and settlement network which allows
nations to trade in currencies local currencies, but then settle
trade imbalances with gold. Right, the idea being Russia doesn't
want a pile of rupees or rand at the end
of the year, so they use currencies and they settle
(43:41):
in gold bullion, zero trust required, So gold essentially becomes
the savings accounts and national currencies become the checking accounts.
Cost border trade becomes easier once they've sold the currency problem.
And what are we starting to see? Massive bilateral trade
deals happening in local currentencies. What happens is that one
(44:02):
by one they chip away at the dollar's primary source
of demand. And guess what we're seeing it already, Like
I said, numerous bilateral trade agreements signed in local currencies.
This was unheard of a few years ago. Now, I
don't see this as being a binary situation. I don't
think on July eighth the world's going to be turned
(44:22):
upside down. But what I do think is the combination
of fewer dollars in national checking accounts, fewer dollars in
national savings accounts combined, they erode the dollars dominance on
a global scale, and that slowly opens the door for
longer term dollar destruction and for an alternative to appear.
Speaker 5 (44:43):
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I just want people understand when they come to Birch Gold,
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I think an informed customer is a customer that makes
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Speaker 5 (46:23):
I'm really proud. Bloomberg Television, the Wall Street Journal, CNBC,
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I'm so glad that we'd made the decision collectively to
have you guys go down and do interviews of meet people.
So I think it's turning out quite well giving the
information you're already garnering ahead of the market.
Speaker 3 (46:58):
Thank you for the opportunity, Steve, I'm glad to be
thank you.
Speaker 5 (47:01):
No, it's not the price of gold, sir, it's the process. Hey,
you get to the price. Remember gold's about value, not
about price. Philip Patrick, thank you so much, honor. Have
you on here, smart move. We made that decision months
and months and months ago. It's turned out well. You
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(47:44):
see what's happening right now, the bricks nations coming together.
Their number one thing they got to figure out is
how to take power away from the West. That means
the United States of America and how to take power
away from the United States dollar. Okay, and Taraz takes
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(48:10):
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briefing of Kerville. We're also going to try to pick
up a little bit of this amazing conference in Las
Vegas for Election Integrity. Got Ben Harnwall and try to
(48:30):
get back Meghan Kelly is going to join us. The
second hour is a little jammed, but we'll figure it
out in the war room.
Speaker 14 (48:37):
Every young May, some future days of coral ustarasters of honey,
our fleet shall speak in thunder to England, France and
Spain nations over the ocean spread shall tremondo
Correctional rainfall dass Kerr County, Texas, Friday morning, causing flooding
from the Guadalupe River. The death toll has now risen
to twenty four people, and one death was also reported
in Kendall County. Rescue teams have been working through the
night to find survivors as more than twenty people remain
unaccounted for from a summer camp in Hunt, Texas. NBC's
(00:23):
Ryan Chandler is on the ground with more.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
In Central Texas. A catastrophic flood emergency.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
Is going to be a mash casualty event.
Speaker 4 (00:34):
Forties saying fourteen helicopters are in the air.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
One rescuer dangling from a shopper appearing to help someone
up in a tree as flooding rages below. Cars lifting
off the ground, swept away by the powerful waters. These
steps leading to a house that's no longer there.
Speaker 5 (00:52):
This is our house.
Speaker 4 (00:52):
Rider, another push down the road. The water started to
rise very ira and the Iravel along the river.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
A series of summer camps, the La Junta camp for boys,
posting that everyone is safe, but some girls at Camp
Mystic trapped.
Speaker 6 (01:07):
Now they're twenty some that aren't accounted for We're praying
for all of those missing to be found alive.
Speaker 7 (01:16):
You can feel the anxiety here as parents are waiting
to hear a word about their child. We're told that
these children are being transported by helicopter, the only way out.
Speaker 8 (01:26):
Of the camp.
Speaker 4 (01:27):
As parents wait to hear they return safely.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
The county judge pressed on why the camps weren't evacuated.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
We knew all Why were.
Speaker 9 (01:35):
These chance evacuated?
Speaker 4 (01:37):
I can't answer that.
Speaker 9 (01:38):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
These camps weren't Arm's way.
Speaker 8 (01:40):
We knew the flows.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
We didn't know this flood was coming. That's sure.
Speaker 4 (01:45):
No one knew this kind of flood was coming.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
The tight knit Texas towns across Kirk County are popular
recreation areas. Lenn clenden In and Rory Higgins were camping
asleep in their cabin when the water started rushing in.
Speaker 5 (01:58):
Everything happened so terribly fast.
Speaker 6 (02:00):
There was mobile homes, travel trailers, cabins.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
Vehicles, people in the water.
Speaker 8 (02:08):
It was It was devastating.
Speaker 4 (02:10):
They took this video showing a building from the.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Campground washing away their beloved Border Colie Ripper is still missing.
Speaker 4 (02:18):
Blood threats were.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
In place because drenching rain flooded the riverhead. Massive amounts
of water got pushed downstream. At one point National Weather
Service data showing the water rising nearly thirty feet in
one hour. This region near the Guadalupe River is no
stranger to floods. In nineteen eighty seven, rapidly rising water
killed ten people that stalled out and the.
Speaker 10 (02:42):
Water was sud that starting.
Speaker 11 (02:43):
It was real nat So we were going to try
to get out and get to the road clean, going.
Speaker 4 (02:47):
Too far back and.
Speaker 8 (02:50):
It started washing people away.
Speaker 4 (02:52):
It was supposed to be a holiday celebration is now
a nightmare.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
This came a night before and dead.
Speaker 8 (03:01):
Please play food.
Speaker 9 (03:04):
Original forecast that we received on Wednesday from the National
Weather Service predicted three to six inches of rain in
the Concho Valley and four to eight inches of rain
in the Hill country. We worked with our own meteorologists
to fine tune that weather statement, and as many of
you know, and many of you in broadcast journalism indieurology,
you can go back and look at your own forecast,
(03:26):
and the amount of rain that fell in this specific
location was never in any of those forecasts.
Speaker 11 (03:30):
This rain event sat on top of that and dumped
more rain than what was forecasted on both of those forks.
When we got the report, it was about seven feet
or so on the South Fork, and within a matter
of minutes it was up to twenty nine feet and
all of that converged at the Guadaloupe and that's where
we saw those very quick rise and flood.
Speaker 4 (03:50):
But listen to everybody.
Speaker 9 (03:51):
Got the forecast from the National Weather Service, right, you
all got it. You're all in media.
Speaker 4 (03:56):
You got that forecast.
Speaker 9 (03:57):
It did not predict the amount of rain that we saw.
Speaker 5 (04:03):
This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray
for our enemies because we're going to medieval on these people.
You've not got a free shot.
Speaker 6 (04:14):
All these networks lying about the people, the people have
had a belly full of it.
Speaker 5 (04:19):
I know you don't like hearing that. I know you
tried to do everything in the world to stop that,
but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen.
Speaker 4 (04:25):
And where do people like that go to share the
big line?
Speaker 8 (04:28):
Mega media?
Speaker 9 (04:29):
I wish in my soul, I wish that any.
Speaker 8 (04:32):
Of these people had a conscience.
Speaker 12 (04:35):
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
If that answer is to save my country? This country
will be saved.
Speaker 8 (04:45):
Worry use your host, Stephen.
Speaker 5 (04:47):
K Bas Saturday, five July in the Year of Our
Lord twenty twenty five. Normally, as you know, when we
do fourth of July and then fourth of July weekend
is always the fifth we carry over our coverage talking
about the foundation of the country and also the revolutionary
(05:09):
war that was upon the signers. So much pressing business today,
we're not even We had a cold open all set
for the great Signing ceremony and the flyover and the fireworks.
But there's many big stories that I know this audience
needs to focus on, including I think a rapidly expanding
(05:33):
war in Ukraine and also this biblical level tragedy down
in a Cerrville, Texas and around the Guadalupe River. We've
got a whole team down there. Ben Berkwam is on location.
Let's go to Let's go to Ben Ben. You just
informed us is going to be another press conference because
(05:53):
information coming out is very sketchy. We found out last
night that there were twenty three I think young girls.
I think forty people missing overall, but twenty three I
think third graders from the bubble ind over at the
Mystic camp that we're missing. It's kind of sketchy. Some
things have been up on line this morning about how
many of those children have been recovered. I haven't heard
(06:16):
of any being rescued. There's gonna be another press conference also,
I wanted to include. I thought it was important our
producers did. There's already so there's a search and rescue.
All this equipment's coming in. These brave individuals. We had
Colonel Chambers Doc Chambers on last night. You've got people
running to the sound of the guns to find these children,
(06:37):
to rescue them, and others adults and also then livestock
all of that. But there's also already accountability finger pointing
whether it was the weather forecast, wireland close. So we're
going to cover both these. Ben get us up today.
You rushed there from Iowa and it couldn't celebrate Fourth
of July with your family. Really appreciated. What do you
(06:58):
got for us this morning? Okay, we don't.
Speaker 13 (07:08):
Have been hooked up on Yeah, Steve, Yeah, I was
actually on my way home Fluid Houston was driving up
almost to text Arcana and got the message from you
and turned around rerouted down here. Got a lot of
friends in this area.
Speaker 5 (07:20):
And so we went to the location.
Speaker 13 (07:25):
I just want to get out of the shot here
for a second, just to show you how you know
the level of devastation, and we'll talk more about the details,
but this is right downtown Currville, and I was just
gonna turn the camera just show you so that where
I'm standing right now, I'm about twenty feet above the river,
and I would have been underwater. This entire area here
(07:47):
was underwater. Turned back this way towards one of the bridges,
you could just see. And this is what they're going
through right now. Rescue efforts. They're having to comb through
all of this debris, all the trees down.
Speaker 5 (08:01):
You know, the closest thing.
Speaker 13 (08:02):
I could equate it to is what I saw in
North Carolina and.
Speaker 4 (08:09):
Tennessee.
Speaker 13 (08:09):
Not on the same scale, but when you see just
trees snapped like twigs, and just a reference point to
give you an idea of the water level. In some
areas it went over thirty feet. But that tree right there,
you can see it snapped. Where some of the limbs
are broken. The top where that the bark is ripped
off is basically where the water line was. And what
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we're hearing is the major disaster. You know, it's really
it is. It's really a tragedy on multiple levels. Finger
Pointing is gonna happen. It always happens in these things.
The rain totals, the estimates seem to be a little
bit low. They got over five inches here. Some areas
are reporting over eight inches, some ten inches. Just a
(08:58):
massive amount of water. In fact, that storm is still circulating.
Austin's getting hammered right now and that's going to continue,
and it looks like it's actually going to come back
down this air to this area over the next twenty
four hours. So we're keeping an eye on that because
all of that hampers the rescue efforts. The last numbers
I heard, and I will be at that press conference
at ten am. Just down the road. Mystic Camp is
(09:19):
about twenty minutes up the road. It's inaccessible. It's about
an hour now because you have to go out and around.
It's all shut down for the rescue efforts. But that
recovery effort still ongoing. But it's still ongoing all the
way down here. The problem is they don't know how
far people wash down the river, So we're talking about
a several hundred mile swath and those are the people
(09:41):
that they know about. Last numbers I got from somebody
involved with search and rescue last night was twenty are
still missing. Twenty children. That's total, that's not just from
the Mystic camp. That's total for Kerr County. And then
thirty to forty adults as well. That's the most up
to date number I have. That will probably change. Hopefully
we get a better update at ten am Local time
(10:01):
eleven am Eastern.
Speaker 5 (10:05):
Yeah, we'll cover that live. Here's the thing is that
what has been reported as the river rose because it
is different than Appalachia and then western North Carolina and Tennessee.
But the river rose twenty six feet in forty five minutes,
and then it continued to rise I think overall forty
(10:26):
to forty two feet within like an hour to two hours.
So the rise and you see there from the thing,
it just caught everybody surprise, and I guess the pre
dawn hours of three to five o'clock in the morning.
But the rise of the river so rapidly was really
like a wall of water coming down on the Guadaloupe.
And that's what washed out the question about should these
(10:48):
things have been evacuate all that what they're saying, Hey,
it was the middle of the night. They're pointing fingers
to the National Weather Service, of pointing fingers to other
weather forecasters, et cetera. Do we at ten o'clock or
they going to have a bigger because whatever he's focused on,
obviously is this these children from this camp. It was
reported there were twenty three nine year olds. Do you
(11:10):
have any update nine year old girls? Do you have
any update on that?
Speaker 13 (11:14):
Yeah, the most up to date numbers I have are
what I just said, twenty total is twenty plus, So
I heard anywhere between twenty four and twenty six. Now
I hope those are old numbers. The guy spoke to
is involved with the rescue efforts. That's what he told
me last night. We're anticipating getting updated numbers this morning.
I think the big thing they don't want to give
false information and then have to come back and say otherwise.
(11:37):
You know, when this first happened, you were messaging me
and saying, hey, we're hearing one hundred kids are missing.
And that's the problem with a lot of these disasters,
as you start getting speculation on top of what's already
a tragedy. And so I think they're being very careful
about making sure whatever numbers they give out as are
accurate numbers. Yeah, as they should, as they absolutely should.
(11:58):
And then look, just going back to this, what happened.
You know, it's just the perfect storm. It just happened
to be eighty percent of the year. The way that
this river is set up, the way that most of
the communities are built up around here, Hill Country is
used to flooding. This is just you know, they're talking
about this being one of the one hundred year flood scales.
This is massive. It was unexpected. It kind of came
(12:20):
out of nowhere with the storm. I mean, we knew
a couple days in advance, but the way it just
sat over here again kind of similar to what we
saw in North Carolina and Tennessee. That storm just sat
on top of them. Nobody expected the amount that they had.
And then the big, the big concern they had was, well,
now that we know that the river's rising so rapidly,
do we try to do a mass evacuation and then
(12:41):
potentially have more fatalities, more injuries because people are trying
to drive through flooded areas, or do we keep people
sheltered in place and so it seems like there was
some confusion understandably during those first few minutes and hours
on who to have shelter in place and who to
have evacuated, and then how to reach those people and
(13:02):
which places were the most devastated. We do know this,
the Texas Emergency Management team was already on site. They
had the swift water or rescue boats on site, They
were ready to go. They knew something could happen. They
just nobody anticipated the scale that it would happen at
and the quickness that this happened at. And the saddest
part of this is it just happened on the wrong
(13:24):
weekend where most of these camps are in operation. Everybody's
coming down here to celebrate the Fourth of July, and
so it was just, you know, it's just a terrible,
terrible tragedy. And now they're what they The requests that
I've been given by emergency Management, by Sheriff here in
Kirk County is if you are not a part of
the rescue efforts, please don't come.
Speaker 5 (13:44):
You know, one of the problems.
Speaker 13 (13:45):
We get in a lot of these disasters is you
get some of the you know, people just coming down
to take a look, they end up clogging the roads.
They had problems yesterday people blocking roads to take pictures
and to film. And just if you're not a part
of the rescue efforts, please don't come right now until
they find every one of these missing children and missing adults.
That is their number one focus.
Speaker 5 (14:08):
Doc Chambers are going to try to get Ben if
you can stick around, If you can still get to
the I'll talk to you in the break. If you
still get to the press conference, Doc Chambers is going
to also join us. He's saying that there's been one
hundred and twenty rescues since the press conference last night,
so we'll We've got Doc Chambers up I think the
Congressman ship boy is down there, even Jason Jones, who
(14:30):
lives in the areas down there. So we're going to
try to get some folks up here and get some details.
Ben Berkham is with us heading to the press conference.
Short commercial break. Philip Patrick's going to join us at
the bottom of the hour from Rio about the Rio
reset and the de dollarisation program of the Bricks Nations.
(14:51):
All next in the war room.
Speaker 14 (14:52):
Briens of Rules by Freedoms, last the Marry.
Speaker 8 (15:00):
Here's your host, Stephen k Back.
Speaker 5 (15:08):
Okay, welcome back. We cut Ben berkwom loose of Ben
berkwhomb can get to Kerville and actually get to the
press conference that's going to take place at eleven o'clock.
The one last night was actually I thought pretty informative
given the lack of a lot of information. They had
one thing, you can tell already to some debate between
what the forecasts were and what was told to people.
(15:31):
So we're gonna make sure we get to all that. Also,
Doc Chambers, who was with us last night. We're going
to try to get Doc Chambers on here in a
moment soon as we can get him up. Also, Peter
Theo is one of these rescue groups that rode to
the sound of the guns immediately. Peter Theo is going
to also join us, and we're going to get some clarification,
(15:52):
particularly on the search and rescue right now kind of
up in the air. I think search and rescue is
still twenty plus of the children. Now they're saying that
maybe all the children not just from the camp, but
all the children lost in this tragedy on the Guadalupe River.
As I said, a rain still for the Hill Country
Texas area has just heard of Ben Burkham maybe doubled
(16:15):
back on Curvell. I think what the question is is
what you know this river twenty six feet in forty
five minutes is nothing short of biblical. You've seen some
of the footage how it came ripping through and not
just expanded the width of the river, but the depth
and the velocity of water going down was nothing short
(16:36):
of biblical. Then they said forty two feet I think
in an hour and an hour and a half. And
so that's where you see this tragedy unfolding before you.
Like I said, Peter t O and Doc Chambers, as
soon as you get them up from the Field's tough
getting a signal down there, but we want to make
sure we're on top of this because I think it's
one of the most important stories in the world. Also,
(16:58):
Ben Harnwell is going to has been up, has been
up yet correct production team. The Ben's going to join
us President Trump in this kind of victory after victories,
had win after win. President Trump was had a call
with putin the other day of which he was working,
(17:19):
you know, to whip the vote. He had a call
put another day and it didn't go very well. If
he read the axios, I think had the most accurate.
It's that at the end Putin told Trump, he said, hey, look,
I want to have a bide lateral I want to
have a bide lateral negotiation here and essentially butt out.
President Trump said later was not a good call. President
Trump had already stopped the Pentagon, had stopped additional weaponry
(17:41):
because we're after the Israeli situation with the Iranians. The
Persians were down THAD missiles I think twenty five percent
the Patriot missiles that were used in Qatar to shoot
down and also the patriots who gave Israel were down
Patriots and were taken him out of Korea. In the Pacific.
We told the Ukraine we can't you know, we can't
draw down our stocks anymore now because of the phone call,
(18:04):
and also the battering of Kiev by the battering of
Kiev by the Russians the other night. I think the
most brutal of all the bombardments, drones, missiles, aircraft strikes
in Kiev was the other night. I think it was
Thursday night.
Speaker 4 (18:22):
Brutal.
Speaker 5 (18:23):
Today the Atlantic magazine, Ben Harnweld joins us from Rome
The Atlantic magazine has an Apple bomb who is no
fan of the war Room, no phan of Maga, no
fan of America first non intervention, and particularly she detests
Donald Trump. She's got a piece in the Atlantic Band
that says Trump is switching sides, and we're going to
(18:45):
ask you how she drives that. But she does have
a buried leader that with Poso has been talking about
Putin's actually, and this is supposed to be for an
army that was beaten. This is what the media has
told us, a summer offensive of six hundred and seventy
five a thousand combat troops for a massive front in Ukraine.
Ben Harnwell, can you gets up to speed on everything
(19:08):
is happening? Because I think this one, as much as
President Trump's trying to step in and haveever you put
their guns down, I think this one could be rapidly
spinning out of control, sir, Okay, Ben, You've got it
on mute? I think okay, do we have Ben? Okay,
(19:31):
We're gonna get these right eventually. Ben Harnwell, you off mute?
Are we set up? Okay, We're gonna get Ben. Put
back up? Okay, Ben Harnwall, are you there?
Speaker 11 (19:47):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (19:47):
I'm here. Can you hear me loud and claim?
Speaker 10 (19:50):
Have you got me?
Speaker 5 (19:51):
I can hear you next time unhooked? Mute either Denver
or Rome, take your pick. Okay? Is Ant Applebaum right?
Are the Russians getting ready for six hundred and seventy
five thousand man off summer offensive? Sir well, I think
she is right on that, Steve. But let's just quickly
do the chronology if I may.
Speaker 10 (20:10):
On the night before US Independence Day celebrations, it's just
as you say. Thursday, President Trump had an hour long
phone call with President Putin, and let's go textually to
what he said. President Trump said, it's a very tough situation.
I was very unhappy with my call with President Putin.
(20:31):
He wants to go all the way just killing people.
It's no good that, Steve contrasts with the phone call
that he had with President Zelenski, which he actually basically
agreed to pretty much to all of President Zelenski's requests,
that is, to increase Ukraine's air capacity to vent itself
at the air cover, specifically providing the US Patriot missiles,
(20:56):
which he alluded to about ten days ago, which he said,
let's see if we can get them these missiles which
they're going to pay for. So this would very much
tie into that position. And then Steve, you've got this
situation that the six ninety five thousand troops build up
on the Ukraine border.
Speaker 8 (21:13):
Steve, my hesitation here.
Speaker 10 (21:15):
My issue with this here is that President Trump is
already being dragged into this, as he has been being
dragged into this really by both sides in this war,
specifically Ukraine, since the inauguration. I look at these timings
of these dates and really from what I can gather, Steve,
within a few moments of his phone call with President
(21:37):
Putin finishing President Putin, this is, as I say, on
Thursday launched the largest drone and ballistic missile attack to
date on Kiev and Ukraine.
Speaker 8 (21:51):
And this isn't very.
Speaker 10 (21:52):
Good, I think for President Trump, who's trying to be
the deal maker, he's trying to get be the man
of peace, but he's finding himself ground in between these
two cogs. And therefore, as we've been covering on the
wound for the last few days, he is in this
situation which has a certain escalatory as far as the
(22:13):
US is concerned.
Speaker 15 (22:14):
Momentum, Ben, talk to me, then, do you think, how
do we avoid being dragged into this even more?
Speaker 5 (22:25):
I mean, President Trump want to stop this. Twenty four
hours he admitted it was more complicated than that. He
now it looks like he made a decision that, hey,
we're going to tell both sides that we took a
shot at this, but we're not going to re arm
the Ukrainians. We're going to make the Europeans rearmed the Ukrainians.
President Trump goes to NATO. The entire five percent, let's
(22:47):
be brutally frank about this, going up to five percent,
is directly tied to NATO into their fear of Russia.
We haven't forced the Europeans right now, are we getting
as non interventional and Ukraine being even I think a
higher priority of getting out of than the Middle East,
although we don't want any, you know, no more regime
(23:08):
change in the Middle East and press Trump's kind of
a great job of that, in fact, telling the Israelis
were shutting down Gaza. Are we getting sucked into this
moment by moment and we're getting sucked in by Putin?
Speaker 10 (23:21):
Well, it's difficult to know. I don't think Putin is
trying to suck America in. I think it's Ukraine, and
it's not really in Putin's interest to get you guys.
Speaker 8 (23:30):
Sucked in, but you are getting sucked into this war.
Speaker 10 (23:35):
And in answer to your question is to how to
de escalate the situation and to de escalate America's involvement
in this situation. Really, President Trump, I think has to
fulfill his commitment in the campaign, which he now claims
to have been sort of sarcasm. But many people who
supported him in the in the election campaign didn't take
our sarcasm and supported him for that. And that is
(23:57):
basically to withdraw the United States within twenty four hours.
If it's not possible, Steve for President Trump to act
as the peace boker here and negotiate a ceasefire, the
next best thing he can do is to stop this
war continuing, and that is by stopping to supply one
of the two sides, which is to say Ukraine. Now,
(24:18):
last week he did say that he was stopping some
weapons and some missiles, and he threw the justification to
that to depleting US stockpiles, but it wasn't a total
closure of US provision. Of course, what he was going
to continue to provide or not hadn't been defined, and
(24:39):
it looks as if what he is going to continue
to supply is the Patriot missiles. This is not a
de escalatory path, Steve. That's the issue here. This is
not a de escalatory path. If President Trump really wants
to achieve peace, then you know it's America that is
keeping this war going, right.
Speaker 8 (25:00):
I think President.
Speaker 10 (25:00):
Trump has to fulfill what he said he would do
in the campaign. Stop arming Ukraine definitively, and then the
Ukrainians will see since when they realized that that.
Speaker 8 (25:09):
The munitions, but we're just stop committed. But I negotiate.
Speaker 5 (25:13):
But he tried. He tried. By the way, I'm gonna
have to go back to the We're gonna go back
to Kerville and the next thing. Then we got real,
I need you to stick around because I've got to
drill down more. President Trump had the conversation with Putin
and then that night they unleashed the worst bombardment on
the KIV after the President said, hey, I need you.
(25:33):
It was like BB hitting the the Persians after they
announced the ceasefire, and then Putin announced us to Trump
on the call, Hey I just want to do this
by lotterly. I don't need your involvement. They've jammed. They
put the President United States, who's trying to be a
peacemaker and try to be fair to both sides. They
put him in a terrible situation, just a terrible situation
(25:54):
for the simple fact of after you have a conversation
with him and then you do the biggest bombardment. Anyway, Ben,
hang on, I'm gonna get to you after the eleven o'clock.
Our very jammed. Today. We're going to go to Rio
for the Bricks conference. We got a press conference coming
up from Kerrville. We have Peter Theal and Doctor Chambers.
Not that Peter Theal, but the head of operations one
(26:14):
of the rescue groups is going to be with us.
And we also have Doc Chambers from last night, the
former the retired lieutenant colonel, and the Green Berets all
down there on search and rescue and helping folks out.
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Speaker 14 (26:52):
Next by Freedoms, last the Mary.
Speaker 8 (27:00):
Use your host, Stephen K.
Speaker 5 (27:02):
Bat Okay, let's go down back to Doc Chambers. Doc,
we had you on last night before the press conference.
Press conference, good information, kind of depressing. Can you give
us an update on where we are in search and rescue?
Speaker 6 (27:17):
Sir Roger That, Yeah, we had over two hundred and
sixty rescues yesterday. This is a positive note. Obviously, we're
looking at one hundred and some of those were hoists,
so this is what we call a JP jungle penetrator type.
The old comes down from the helicopter with a operator
at the bottom of the line. Somebody pulls them up
(27:38):
through the tree line. Because this is triple canopy in someplace,
there's lots of foliage in the area. So that's a
positive note. Unfortunately, you do have to report that we're
at about twenty four right now unconfirmed, twenty four to
twenty six deaths reported expected to rise till twenty five
missing expected to rise, but we're nearing those numbers down
(27:58):
as we speak, so those are just unconfirmed that they
are close to the right numbers.
Speaker 5 (28:04):
What is of the twenty five? What's the status of
the Mystic Girls camp They were saying last night twenty
to twenty three. Is that still an accurate number that
had not been the search and rescue had not located.
Is that still been accounting?
Speaker 7 (28:17):
We have.
Speaker 6 (28:20):
No because over the ninth we were reporting all the
way through zero three hundred. This morning, yeah, there were
about seven that I saw that were sent to me.
I have not got those numbers yet. I'm on my
way to Mystic. We've had a lot of stops along
the way. Understand, this is still going on. It's the
Geen area, Lake mcqueeney. Is that there's a deluge of
rain down from us, so it's adding to the problem set.
(28:43):
But we're controlling what we can here and then we'll
continue to move to that location. But first I'll hit
Mystic and be out there conducting some support out there,
ministry support with some of the families.
Speaker 5 (28:55):
Let's bring a peat teal. Hang on, doc, let's got
a peat teal from the minute Man disaster relief I
think joins us by phone. Oh no, there we have him, Pete.
Can you give us an update on a disaster relief,
search and rescue, anything you know.
Speaker 16 (29:10):
I agree with what what the previous guy said. I
was at the operations center there were they were did
the operational briefing this morning. I don't have any additional
numbers to what he said. Those are are in line
with what I'm aware of.
Speaker 5 (29:27):
When you say in line, this is I just the
question last night I think they said. I think they
reported at Mystic, at the Bubble End or one of
the sub camps at Mystic, that there were twenty to
twenty three nine year old girls. Is that was last night?
Not the correct answer. That's what the media is been,
that that had been unaccounted for. Where there are there
(29:48):
still twentys this morning.
Speaker 16 (29:52):
I don't want to say that definitively because I can't
tell you sure, but yes, that is my understanding. I
was an eight nine year old camp and a couple
of the the camp buildings were swept away. Is what
I understand.
Speaker 5 (30:05):
What is search and rescue still going on? Correct?
Speaker 16 (30:10):
Yes it is right now. I believe I'm probably on
the same highway as Lieutenant Colonel is. There are a
number of state police and ambulances, number of game warden
trucks just ro by me here while I was talking
with you. The sturch and rescue is still going on,
although I think at this point it might be more
recovery than the search and rescue.
Speaker 5 (30:28):
Unfortunately, where how tough has this search and rescue been?
Given the the biblical nature of this flash flood? How
tough has it been? Pete Teal.
Speaker 16 (30:43):
I have not been involved in the search and rescue personally,
but just trying to turn around in a truck. The mud,
the mud and muck is is unbelievable. The level of damage.
I I this is like a hurricane. There are thousands
of trees that have been stripped, there are mattresses in trees.
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There's the height of the flood level. This is unbelievable.
They have been using jeeps, they've been using dogs as
much as they can with the mud. I mean, every
asset is being used. There was an offer this morning
from a group that has assessed the three thirty seven
(31:28):
with search and rescue package with infrared and everything. I
don't know if that's coming over, but every asset the
state has, I believe, has been pushed here. The number
at the staging area, the incidente command post that we're
probably three hundred vehicles of people that are here that
are state officials rather than just volunteers that we're for
search and rescue. The magnitude of the response from the
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State of Texas is amazing. This is what makes America
great is that people come help each other.
Speaker 5 (31:58):
Dot Chambers one of the questions last night about people
being notified, and one of the officials said that, hey,
this area has a history of flooding in your memory,
is this the biggest has happened recently? Twenty years, thirty years?
The biggest in memory? I mean, how big is this
compared to other events that this area has had the Guadalupe.
Speaker 6 (32:19):
River great question, twenty years, this is the highest one
in record now, but understand this is the longest in
the corridor of the Guadalupe. We're looking at probably seventy
miles as the crow flies, hundreds of miles one hundred
and twenty miles of river as it curves. So we're
looking at all those low laning areas. And remember all
these camps that were plussed up for Fourth of July holiday,
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that was the evacuation problem set and now when we're
spreading those forces thin as Pete was mentioning I'm out
here with them, and these guys are running up and
down the roads. So are civilian groups. You know, the
Cajun navies coming in from Louisiana. There's some great folks.
This is what we're dealing with. The thermals are the
key for the night time and daytime. The problem set
for some of these areas further down is the is
(33:04):
the amount of rain that they're still receiving, deluge of
rain over Lake mcqueeney so that they won't be able
to work there. But from their back yes, there will
be up with those fixed wing and rotary wings.
Speaker 5 (33:18):
Doc Chambers, where do people your sit reps have been amazing?
Where do people go that weren't in the audience last night?
Where do people go to keep up with this? Understanding?
Your heading up to the mystic camp right now? So
how do people keep in touch with you on social
media to get your sit reps? Affirmative?
Speaker 16 (33:34):
Sir?
Speaker 6 (33:34):
Well, what you look is Doc Pete Chambers on X
and then I have the Remnant Ministry TX dot org.
That's what we'll be totally posting things as where well,
but on X is the primary right now. I'll be
doing probably probably every couple hours as I can. Just
a short thirty second spot.
Speaker 5 (33:56):
Okay, perfect, thank you, we'll post those up and make
sure we stream thank you, Doc, appreciate you, yeah, pe
teel before we let you go. Anything to make our
audience smart as the day they look at social media
or continue to follow the stream here on Real America's Voice.
Anything to make us smart about how this search and
rescue is going, Sir.
Speaker 16 (34:19):
I don't have anything in particular. Miniman Disaster Response is
an all volunteer group that helps people clean up after
major events. We have not done a full deployment yet.
We're down here assessing the situation to see if we'll
be going. So, I mean, just the the level of
damage here is is just it's overwhelming. But I we
(34:42):
don't have a public web page where we put sit
reps on. Uh, so I can't add on that.
Speaker 5 (34:49):
Do you have do you have social media? You guys
on Twitter, We're on Facebook.
Speaker 16 (34:55):
I believe we're on Instagram. It should be this Mini
Man Disaster Response. I don't know about Twitter. Kay, Well, just.
Speaker 5 (35:03):
We'll send everybody over well, so that's okay. We'll send
everybody over to your Facebook or your your Instagram Pete,
thank you so much for joining us. I know you're
busy this morning, so thank you for taking a few minutes.
Speaker 16 (35:15):
Yep, thank you. Goodbye.
Speaker 5 (35:18):
There'll be a press conference at There will be a
press conference at at eleven o'clock eastern daylight time. We
will jump into that and get some updates on this.
Jason Jones is down there, the congressman trip where is
down there? We'll get some other input in the second hour.
Let's go to as soon as we get more information.
Obviously we'll inform everybody. Let's go to Brazil to Rio.
(35:41):
You know, yesterday on Drudge for the entire day of
fourth of July until late in the day after President
Trump signed the signed the big beautiful bill and had
this amazing ceremony Philip Patrick. The headline the Drudge lead
was dollar has worst opening six months I think in
history twenty years, you know, the drop of the dollar.
(36:03):
You're at the conference, and I'm sure that came from
the d dollarsation movement of Brooks. What exactly has gone
on down in real What are the bricks Nations organizing?
We're getting ready to kick off this conference. You've been
down for a couple of days get us up to speed.
Speaker 3 (36:18):
Yeah, look, it's interesting. It's hustle and bustle. We've been out.
We're watching dinners between Chlie's delegates and Brazilian real estate developers.
Deals are happening all over the place. The dollar is
certainly a topic of conversation, as you rightly point out,
a worst start for the year since nineteen seventy three,
(36:38):
since we came off the gold standard, dollars lost ten
and a half percent of its purchasing power, So you
know it's looking primed for the bricks and their plans
longer term. We had a very interesting interview with an
economics professor yesterday heavily involved in the bricks leadership, and
learn a lot in that conversation about different motivations for
(37:02):
different bricks companies countries, sorry, particularly Brazil. So there is
a feeling here of excitement and that things are moving forward.
Speaker 5 (37:16):
Is explained to the audience. We know during Biden's time,
is this flow over from Biden? Because President Trump puts
out the big, beautiful built and clearly it has some
defenits in there. They've asked for a five tree dollars,
a lift to the to the debt, ceiling, But the
global capital markets kind of took this. The ten year
treasuries slightly down, Gold's been kind of stable, the stock
(37:39):
market's on a run again. Why explain to the audience
why does the dollar keep losing value relatives some of
these other currencies, Because this is one of the things
the bricks are saying. If we can't do another currency,
we've got to figure out some way to dedollarize, Right,
We've got to get away from the dollar being the
center of world currency trade. So why has the dollar
(38:01):
contained terry? Why have we had the worst six months
since we came off the gold standard under Nixon?
Speaker 3 (38:08):
Look, I think there's a number of reasons. Right. It
started in twenty twenty two with Biden's weaponization of the dollar,
and ultimately it showed nations around the world that they
have risk. But I think what I'm learning here is
people misunderstand what the bricks really are. Right. The argument
that I always hear is, look, they're not politically aligned, right,
India and Trya can't agree on anything. And the sort
(38:33):
of acceptance of that on the ground I mentioned. I
was interviewing an economics professor and he said, look, you
know the idea of viewing them as a political unit
is the wrong way to look at it. They are
not a block, right. They don't have a chairman, they
don't have a CEO, they don't have a board of directors,
and importantly they don't have agenders to vote on. What
they are instead is a group of countries that have
(38:54):
come together to basically help one another out right with trade,
development projects and love. There's a feeling here of mutual
cooperation because I think on the whole Bricks nations feel
snubbed by the West and now they with China leading
the way, they have a lot of clout. Remember they've
got bigger GDP now than the G seven. So they're
(39:14):
not politically aligned, but they are aligned in one area
and that is and this is a direct quote from
the from the professor himself, and he was not anti Western,
I want to be very clear. But the aim here
in their mind is to diminish power of the West.
And it was very shocking to hear until he started
to explain the background right and from an inside of
(39:38):
Bricks perspective, it started to make a lot more sense,
and that is that BRICKS members want different things. Right
for China, it's all about power, right. They don't want
a direct economic war with the West or Europe. They
still do a lot of business with US, but they
do want to become a global leader, and they do
want to recover Taiwan. The question is how much of
their wealth do they want tai up in US dollars
(40:01):
when they try that. So they're very motivated to break
dollar dominance. For Russia, it's about economic security from sanctions. Right.
For Brazil, in his mind, it was a little more nuanced. Right.
They still harbor resentments about deals offered by the IMF
when they were struggling in the eighties and nineties, essentially
loans with too many strings attached. Right. Those difficult experiences
(40:24):
during times of crises, I think make them open to alternatives.
They see themselves, as the professor himself says, as a
bridge between the global north and south, right, to act
as a moderator, balancing between China and the West. This
is basically their opportunity to seize a global role. The
point being they all want different things that they united
(40:47):
around the.
Speaker 5 (40:47):
Common hang on, hang on one second, that common purpose
is diminished to West sharp break Philip Patrick Coromrio.
Speaker 8 (40:56):
Next Warrior confuse your host.
Speaker 5 (41:01):
Stephen k Maat, Okay, thank you. We were covering Rio Curville, Texas.
We're gonna go there momentary are going to be a
press conference. We're also covering the kickoff to the Great
Election Integrity Conference. They heard Hotel Mett Mech and the
team in Las Vegas. I'll be giving the closing remarks
(41:22):
tonight eight to eight thirty Eastern daylight time five five
thirty out there in Las Vegas. Also we have Philip
Patrick and Rio. So Philip, the mechanisms that they're talking about,
we understand they want to diminish the power of the West,
although they each have individual agendas. We also understand although
the black hand of the Chinese Commis parties in back
(41:43):
of this, we understand that they are not fans of
the US dollar being the prime reserve currency for many reasons.
So what are the mechanisms that you're hearing the conferences
A couple of days, you're in breakout sessions, You're getting
you know, interviews with the top people there. What are
you learning about the mechanisms of how Because the audience
(42:03):
needs to understand this not just for the geopolitical and
geoeconomic direction of the country, but also for their own
personal financial use. Sir.
Speaker 3 (42:13):
Yeah, it's been very interesting, right. You know, for me,
it was always the plan was de dollarization. But what's
becoming clear is de dollarization isn't the plan. The plan
is to diminish the power of the West. That's the
ultimate endgame, and de dollarization is a means to an end.
But you see it clearly when you look at the
systems that they've created, because the systems are set up
(42:35):
to combat their weaknesses. For example, the bricks don't have
political unity, right, there's a lack of mutual trust between
their governments and their central banks. So what are they doing?
Massive central bank gold buying. Remember last year gold has
become the number two global reserve asset, so gold is
replacing the dollar as a store of value in central
(42:57):
banks reserves. Essentially, gold is becoming the national savings account
if you will. Right, they need cross border trade, that
sanction and Western oversight resistance. What have they built? They
built swift alternatives, one open source, one propriety, firewalled from
US control. They want to use local currencies for trade, right,
(43:20):
but they don't want to keep them right enter Mbridge.
This is a digital clearing and settlement network which allows
nations to trade in currencies local currencies, but then settle
trade imbalances with gold. Right, the idea being Russia doesn't
want a pile of rupees or rand at the end
of the year, so they use currencies and they settle
(43:41):
in gold bullion, zero trust required, So gold essentially becomes
the savings accounts and national currencies become the checking accounts.
Cost border trade becomes easier once they've sold the currency problem.
And what are we starting to see? Massive bilateral trade
deals happening in local currentencies. What happens is that one
(44:02):
by one they chip away at the dollar's primary source
of demand. And guess what we're seeing it already, Like
I said, numerous bilateral trade agreements signed in local currencies.
This was unheard of a few years ago. Now, I
don't see this as being a binary situation. I don't
think on July eighth the world's going to be turned
(44:22):
upside down. But what I do think is the combination
of fewer dollars in national checking accounts, fewer dollars in
national savings accounts combined, they erode the dollars dominance on
a global scale, and that slowly opens the door for
longer term dollar destruction and for an alternative to appear.
Speaker 5 (44:43):
People need to understand goal as a hedge against that,
not just nations and central bankers, but also individuals. You
can go to Birch Gold right now and get the
End of the Dollar Empire birsch gold dot com slash
ban an End of the Dollar Empire seven free installments.
I guarantee we're coming out with the eighth as soon
as phill when the team get back from rear or
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(45:05):
nine eight nine eight for the handbook Investing in Gold
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all the information free, Philip. I know you're jammed down
in Rio. You've got meetings for the next couple of days.
Will be back on Monday. If something pops big, will
get you up streaming live tomorrow. But how do people
I just want people understand when they come to Birch Gold,
(45:28):
how do they interact with you and your team? Because
the people that have over the last three or four
years since we've been working with you guys, are always
a static about the customer service. How you guys take
time and explain them Iras for one, k's all the methodologies.
How do people build a relationship with Birch Gold.
Speaker 3 (45:45):
Look, it's really simple. Get the information first. It is
so important for us, is why they ship me off
to Rio to come and get as much information as
I can. So Birch goold dot com forward slash ban
and that'll get access to to all the written information
as you mentioned, end of the Dollar Empire guides on
how and why to invest under a Trump administration. From there,
(46:06):
they're going to have access to myself and people like
me knowledgeable on the subject. There it can help sort
of guide through, answer any questions and just make this easy.
I think an informed customer is a customer that makes
the right decision. So it's not simple, now, you know.
Speaker 5 (46:23):
I'm really proud. Bloomberg Television, the Wall Street Journal, CNBC,
nobody has had the conversation as you just had about
what you're seeing there with the trade deals of Biletter
trade deals. We're not just breaking news. We're giving the
audience inside baseball on really the core of global capitalism, right,
capital markets, particularly of what's going to happen and really proud.
(46:46):
I'm so glad that we'd made the decision collectively to
have you guys go down and do interviews of meet people.
So I think it's turning out quite well giving the
information you're already garnering ahead of the market.
Speaker 3 (46:58):
Thank you for the opportunity, Steve, I'm glad to be
thank you.
Speaker 5 (47:01):
No, it's not the price of gold, sir, it's the process. Hey,
you get to the price. Remember gold's about value, not
about price. Philip Patrick, thank you so much, honor. Have
you on here, smart move. We made that decision months
and months and months ago. It's turned out well. You
knew the information who he's meeting with, and you'll get
you'll get all the information when you go to Bush Gold.
(47:22):
Make sure you go either take your phone out, text
Bannon nine eight nine eight nine eight. You may contact
with Philipatrian team. He's also opened Getter. He's also open Getter,
so he can go to Getter, DM him there or
go to get the end of the Dollar Empire. We're
going to have a new eighth installment coming out after Rio.
The seventh three installment is the Rio Reset. As you
(47:44):
see what's happening right now, the bricks nations coming together.
Their number one thing they got to figure out is
how to take power away from the West. That means
the United States of America and how to take power
away from the United States dollar. Okay, and Taraz takes
us up magnificent music and get her DVDs take up
on YouTube. She's got two DVDs specifically about these songs
(48:10):
of the Revolution. And then I think songs of early
America absolutely incredible. We strongly recommend it. We're gonna take
a short commercial break. Ben Berkwam is at the press
briefing of Kerville. We're also going to try to pick
up a little bit of this amazing conference in Las
Vegas for Election Integrity. Got Ben Harnwall and try to
(48:30):
get back Meghan Kelly is going to join us. The
second hour is a little jammed, but we'll figure it
out in the war room.
Speaker 14 (48:37):
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our fleet shall speak in thunder to England, France and
Spain nations over the ocean spread shall tremondo
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