July 7, 2025 • 40 mins
THE WAR ROOM WITH STEPHEN K. BANNON, JULY 7TH, 2025
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're sending letters out on Monday having to do with
the trade deals. It could be twelve, maybe fifteen, you know,
Secretary of Commerce right here, and I guess Howard I
would say, it could be maybe as money as.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Good Peter So.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
And they'll be.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
Going out on Monday, and some will go out on
Tuesday and Wednesday, and it'll and we've we've made deals also,
so we're going to have a combination of letters and
some deals have been made.
Speaker 4 (00:27):
A starting a third party, I.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Think it's ridiculous to start a third party. We have
a tremendous success with the Republican Party. The Democrats have
lost their way, but it's always been a two party
system and I think starting a third party just hands
to confusion. It really seems to have been developed for
two parties. Third parties have never worked. So he can
have fun with it, but I think it's ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
Yeah, we are going to have several announcements in the
next forty eight hours. And Joe, I think what President
Trump is concerned about is the quality of the deals,
not the quantity. As you could imagine as he started
hurting the cats and trying to get everyone across the
finish line when he said that there's a chance that
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countries could boomerang back to their April second reciprocal tariff levels.
We've had a lot of people change their tune in
terms of negotiations. So my mailbox was full last night
with a lot of new offers, a lot of new proposals.
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So it's going to be a busy couple of days.
But importantly too, that President Trump has said that they
would the countries would not go back to the reciprocal
rate until August first.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Fatal Texas flooding demands search for answers along with the
missing the board rights in part quote, was there anything
that could have, indeed should have been done to move
people away from the raging water and avert tragedy. While
hundreds of people continue to search for missing adults and children,
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there's no reason other people can't or shouldn't be searching
for answers. We have the wherewithal to do both. One
of the differences between those two searches is that with
the former, the people engaged in it are completely aligned
in what they are seeking. With the latter, we're not
as assured that federal, state and regional leaders are eager
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to dig for information that might reveal truths they don't
want to find, or rather that they don't want the
public to learn. What matters is that the urgency with
which we search for the missing is not allowed to
wane after they are found. It must be maintained and
applied to the search for answers that those who survived
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and the memories of those who perished deserve. And The
Dallas Morning News editorial Board has a piece entitled so
many what ifs haunt Guadalupe River flood and it reads
in part this, Once this initial response has ended and
recovery began, state and local officials need to wrestle with
improved warning systems. We need to understand whether improved staffing
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or technology at either the National Weather Service or the
National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration could give more accurate advance warning.
Local officials, meanwhile, must review their own practices and policies.
Should they have acted to require people to move away
from the Guadalupe River they as the rain began to fall.
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Should people be permitted to live in camp so close
to the riverbanks? Those are haunting questions. Now, what if
we could have done a thousand things differently and perhaps
spared our state this terrible tragedy. We need to understand
those things and do whatever can be done to ensure
that this doesn't happen again.
Speaker 4 (04:04):
This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
Speaker 5 (04:09):
Pray for our enemies, because we're going to medieval on
these people. You've not got a free shot. All these
networks lying about the people. The people have had a
belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that.
I know you tried to do everything in the world
to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
It's going to happen.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
And where do people like that go to share the
big line? Mega media? I wish in my soul, I
wish that any of these people had a conscience.
Speaker 4 (04:36):
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
If that answer is to save my country, this country
will be saved.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
Room.
Speaker 6 (04:47):
Here's your host, Stephen k.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
Van.
Speaker 4 (04:55):
It's Monday, seven July, Year of Alert twenty twenty five,
a weekend. Folks like none o. There was so many,
so many massive stories and narratives of breaking and so
many things around the world. We're gonna get them all
to we're gonna get to them all to day in
the morning and the afternoon show. It's gonna take us
four hours to do this, so strap in. But for
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mek Yes, we're on the search for answers UH, and
we were the first one to bring up, Hey, you
got to get to the bottom of how this happened logistically,
what happened with safety security, all that. You've got these
incredibly brave, you know, search and rescue teams. One guy's
already saved one hundred and sixty five people. They are
fully engaged. We talked to some of the people providing
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logistical support the other day. Ben Berkwam's on the on
the banks of the Guadalupe. Ben, and you're gonna go
to the press conference. We're gonna cover as we've done
all weekend. I really want to thank Real America's Avowice, Grace, Moe,
everybody associated, Elizabeth Jane, everybody that worked on this from
our side all weekend, UH and other search for truth. Mika,
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I hope you keep an open mind because we got
to start with a basic question. Remember, we're not conspiracy
theory guys here, We're not. But the no coincidence we
have to get to a fundamental and basic We have
to answer a basic question for the American people. Was
this an act of God? Or is this somehow an
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active man? And I, Hey, if people's heads are going
to blow up it there they go the war room. Hey,
we've been pretty damn good. Go back, go back and
suck on the pandemic. When we nailed it on the
first day. I think back in January, the January twenty
January twenty one, twenty two of twenty twenty, when we
said exactly what the pandemic was and where it came from.
Ben berkwham and look at that footage. Unbelievable, Ben Berkham
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on the banks of Guadeloupe. Give us an update. You're
gonna be there live. You're gonna take off immediately and
go for uh and go to the press conference.
Speaker 7 (06:54):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (06:54):
Where do we stand this morning, sir? On kind of
a black Monday.
Speaker 8 (06:59):
Yeah, thanks, Steve. I just wrapped up an interview with
Senator Ted Cruz. Latest numbers from senator and he's obviously
got up to date. Eighty two dead, twenty four excuse me,
twenty eight children, and ten of those children from Camp
Mystics still missing. That's you know, as of about twenty
five minutes ago. We'll be at the press conference in
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just under an hour, and I'm sure we'll be getting
an update on that. It's just it's beyond a tragedy, Steve.
You know this as a daughter of a dad of
a daughter. I'm a dad of three daughters. I just
I cannot comprehend the pain that so many of the
families are experiencing, and the children who lost their parents.
You know, the majority of the lives that have been
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lost their adults, so that means children are no longer
going to.
Speaker 4 (07:46):
Have their parents with them.
Speaker 8 (07:47):
So this is not an event that's going to have
ripple impacts for days or weeks or months.
Speaker 4 (07:52):
It's going to be years.
Speaker 8 (07:53):
And to your point, you know, watching the mainstream media
turn this into a circus about President Trump and trying
to connect it to Doge, ignoring that basically scoring political
points on the lives of children, ignoring some of the
obvious questions, and like to your point on the you know,
not being conspiracy theorists.
Speaker 4 (08:14):
We've had rain.
Speaker 8 (08:15):
Manipulation, weather manipulation going on in America for years, and
the you know, for farmers particularly, you got dry areas
this Actually the river was completely dry last year. It
because of droughts, and so they've been this a company
called rain Maker that flies over. They seed the clouds
and you get more rain. Well, there's a there's a
legitimate question. Did that have any impact? Did it increase
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the amount of water from that tropical storm that came up?
I don't know. I don't have an answer to that.
Those questions need to be asked. They're legitimate. They need
to be asking the future. Should we have an early
warning system like we have with tornadoes, where sirens go
off and and somebody goes down to those camps and says,
at even at three in the morning, when they're still sleeping,
get the hell out of here.
Speaker 4 (08:56):
I think I think.
Speaker 8 (08:57):
That's an absolutely legitimate question. But to spend all your
efforts and trying to play gotcha while we're still searching
for ten missing young girls and potentially dozens of additional adults,
the unknown missing is unknown right now, and so it's
you know, that's the focus, and what we should be
prioritizing is that thanking law enforcement and first responders for
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doing their jobs. These guys are absolute heroes, and then
we can deal with the rest of that afterwards.
Speaker 4 (09:26):
Okay, this is gets to a different point that and
we're going to talk a lot of economics. Say we've
got it's a jam show. But and look the geo
engineering and the chemtrails, that's not my line of country.
And the audience, the thing knows, they know where we
cover what we feel comfortable when we understand we have
(09:47):
I think better knowledge or understanding of certain situations, and
we can help people, you know, get access to that knowledge.
There's some things and not that I haven't been pitched
and spent time with the geo engineering people or the
anti geo engineering p or should say, and the chemtrails people.
But you see a situation like this, it's pretty obvious
you got to start. There's all kind of questions about
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the logistics and decisions made and warning and all this
from you know, five o'clock the previous afternoon. They'll have
a timeline and what happened. They'll be details that will
be written and I'm sure court hearings and civil suits
and all of it, and that'll all come out over time.
And who the heroes were and some people that flinched, right,
all that will come out. But a very basic question
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that has to be answered. Was this an act of
God or was this an act of man? Or a
man has some role in the overall? Right, And of
course they're going to policize, but that's at a superficial level.
And you kind of see what Fox is doing right
now to kind of get away from the question of
is there something here that we should be really investigating?
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The deep state? The biggest how do I say this politely?
And you saw this last night from what Cash and
these guys put out in Tom Finton, who's the best
is going to be? Is right up? He was going
to start the show, but we got to start with
Ben because of this tragedy. And right there the look
at the look at the that right there is the
power of nature right now? Who was nature? Was it
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just nature on its own or somehow uh, some sort
of a technology by the hand of man. And this
gets into every issue we're dealing with. This gets back
to artificial intelligence. This gets back to the singularity, to
quantum computing, regentitive robotics, artificial general intelligence. Where a man
remember the the in the Gospel of Mark right to
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blaspheme the Holy Spirit is the unforgivable sin, the mortal
sin that Jesus Christ themselves said, Hey, I'm no good.
If you do that, don't come looking for me. I
can't help you because it's unforgivable. We have to get
into the deep state and find out exactly in this
apparatus these people that have made themselves gods right, what
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are they doing and what we have to understand it.
If we don't do this, we're not a constitutional republic.
This entire apparatus, the entire system of government is based
upon an informed citizenry in the consent of the govern
This is what July forth July force, and not about
backyard barbecues and magnificent fireworks and waving the American flag
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and doing what everybody does know. It's a commitment back
to first principles, first principles of those individuals who put
it all online and created a republic that's lasted longer
than any other. And this experiment continues on, and this
experiment's only going to continue on if we ask the
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tough questions and do what's unreasonable sometimes and stand in
the breach. That's what makes the MAGA movement so different.
That's what they fear you so much. You're just not
going to sit there and be happy talk to We're
not going to be happy talked to these things. And
the answers will take us wherever the answers take us,
and we'll deal with it at the time, but we're
certainly going to look into it to all of it.
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Those little girls demand it. They demand it. We owe
it to them like we'd owe it to everybody came
before us. That's who we owe it to. Our responsibility
is to them to know political party, to know political philosophy.
To them, they are just as much patriots there's any
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patriots that died in service to their country. Ben Burkewe
I know you got a bolt. Thank you very much
for the update. I'm still a little confused about the numbers,
but at eleven o'clock, I'll pick your brain. How does
that sound? Somehow the math still doesn't add up to me.
But I'm I'm just a simple, you know, dumb mick.
But eventually I'll get the math right here, Ben Berke
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on where can people follow you NonStop star and get
all your interviews?
Speaker 6 (13:56):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (13:56):
I got a time more coming out footage we shot yesterday,
more we're shooting today at Ben Berkwam, most important one
at Real America's Voice. It's at Real am Voice on
x and at Real America's Voice on Instagram. Get her
all the rest of it.
Speaker 4 (14:12):
It's still raining out there in the hill country. Incredible
in North Carolina got hammered last night, all the way
from Southern Pines and Pinehurst, all the way up from
Chapel Hill. You see the footage. Incredible, Ben Berkwam, go
with God. We'll see eleven o'clock eastern daylight time, start
the second hour. Yes, sir, thank you, my good friend
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and kyteague Tom Finton, who I think has done the
most work in the serious work about trying to get
to the bottom at least do official channels. There's other
people that are doing great, great investigation of the tire
Epstein situation and so on top of everything. Last night
another bombshell dropped by the FBI, and DJ Tom Finton
will be here to explain it all to you short Break.
Speaker 6 (14:57):
America.
Speaker 7 (15:00):
Speaking of transparency and records, we had another story in
Axios that ran last night from my colleague Alex Eisenstead,
where the Department of Justice has in the Epstein case,
decided we're not going to release all of the records
related to that. Oh, by the way, Jeffrey Epstein committed suicide.
There is no client list, and that's that.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
I think if there's one thing we learned.
Speaker 7 (15:22):
From the JFK case, it's probably a good idea in
these instances to over disclose. But the administration in this
case has decided not to do that. However, in the
JFK case, they are and people who have been very
critical of the CIA are saying, at least John Radcliffe,
who's the head of the CIA, and Tulci Gabbert, the
Director of National Intelligence, are making this series taking the serious.
Speaker 9 (15:44):
So the reporting from Axius is that the DOJ is
saying there is no evidence that convicted sex offendor Jeffrey
Epstein couple lists of high profile clients and yeah, and
talk about the complication of that for the DOJ and
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for others. There's been so much disinformation surrounding client lists
apparently and all these other things that it's something that
leaders in the FBI have obviously been trying to explain
to the MAGA base, who who don't appear to want
to hear.
Speaker 7 (16:25):
This, Well, they don't cash Hotel, the director of the FBI,
and especially the deputy director Assistant Director Dan Bongino. He
used to be a podcaster and was one of the
large proponents the idea that there's an eptein list there,
this is a cover up, This reaches to the highest
level any wants that, being the number two guy at
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the FBI, and now I was like, oh, well, I've
looked at the evidence. All of that's not true. So
of course this branch is two ways. Either Bongino has
been corrupted by the very conspiracy that he claimed exists,
or the conspiracy really didn't exist. And it turns out
that doing your job as a sworn law enforcement officer
in a government agency that is governing is a lot
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harder than podcasting, and at a certain point the facts matter.
We don't have, obviously, all the access to all of
the information, so we can't say certainly Jeffrey Epstein, who
was a person of great interest and was incarcerated in
a federal walk up, having committed suicide when he was
under suicide watch is very suspicious. However, the FBI is
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released what it says are the ten hours of video
footage showing no one went into a cell.
Speaker 4 (17:38):
So from the evidence we have.
Speaker 7 (17:40):
Right now, it does look as if what DJ is
saying is the truth. Well, once again, we don't have
all the records, and what we've seen in the JFK
case is more transparency is probably better, not.
Speaker 4 (17:51):
Less, Tumfinton, because on top of everything else going this week,
I just don't even understand the timing of this. Although
I think we can make we can speculate, but I
want to go to you for facts. You you are
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really I never thought i'd say this, Tom, but you
were our Justice Department during the Obama years. You were
on Bright Part Radio with me every all the time,
almost every day. We were putting lead stories up what
you guys were doing. I made a film about you guys.
I made a film that actually starred you and your team,
a district of corruption that I'm very proud of, that
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really went to the heart of of what you guys
do and uh and now and people are are so
close to Pam and the and the and the you know,
Cash was a was a co host here right and
I made I made the film about Cash, or made
the film about Tom Finton, dishrirt corruption. I made Government
Gangsters off of the book Government Gangsters why did I
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make it off government gangsters, just like Tom Finton, who
is like Elliott Nass Cash Hotel Us like Elliott and Ness.
And he named names, and he had facts and he
backed it up. And guess what, nobody suit us right
because it was all facts. And of course Dan Bong
is one of the greats in our movement. So Fenton,
please explain that our audience, what in the hell happened?
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What is this thing that came out last night? Sir?
Speaker 6 (19:19):
I don't know. I read the memo three or four
times again this morning, and it's it's really I don't
think even the Biden administration would have written anything like this.
I just don't think they could have thought they could
get away with it. And I got to wonder what
is going on at the leadership of the Justice Department
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in the FBI to allow him to think that statements
like as follows, this is a class. Of course, we're
suing for this stuff, right, And so they say the
systemic systematic review field no incriminating client list. So there's
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a client list, but it's not incriminating, so therefore you
can't see it. There is also no credible evidence that
found that Epstein blackmailed prominent individuals as part of his actions. Well,
give us the incredible evidence. We did not uncover evidence
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that could predicate an investigation against uncharged third parties. So
they uncovered evidence, but it wasn't enough to predicate an
investigation against uncharged third parties. So you can go line
by line and kind of, you know, go through this
analysis that I'm going through. It may be unfair or
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overly critical, but in my view, unless you have the
records that back up the conclusions you've drawn in this,
in a case such as this, this isn't worth much
and it's disturbing. It was leaked to Axios time. There's
been a leak to Axious by the way, by this
Justice Department in FBI. Remember we sued for the Biden
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videotapes of his interview with her. We were in court,
literally in federal court. They're stonewalling us, and what do
they do. They give it to Axios. Here they give
it to Axios and I mean Mamo. By the way,
it kind of dripped with contempt for people like you Bannon,
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for judicial Watch, for anyone asking questions, give us the.
Speaker 4 (21:30):
Doctor judicial no listen, we we I'd love Markaputa. We've
had him on the show. We're gonna have him on
the show again because they leaked to him. The Kennedy,
the massive Ciaight League, and John Solomon the best. So
you got, you got Finton, you got Bannon, you got Solomon,
they got so hang on. So I have no problem
with Mike Allen in Axos. It is the consensus thinking
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of the apparatus. Okay. Also, some people at the White
House are quite close to these people, so this was
a wealthy out through leak to a super prominent particularly
late at night, more than Drudge. Everybody will read acting
us on a Sunday night before you go, there's about exclusive.
I just went for the audience to be very specific
judicial watching Tom Finton are suing Doo Jay, I think
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the FBI, what are you suing about? Why is your
suit so important to this? And this is kind of
a response to your suit. Brother.
Speaker 6 (22:24):
Well, we saw we saw the kind of this cluster
with the release of the documents to the social media people, right,
many of whom are friends of ours, which is fine,
But then then they said, well, there were materials that
were with held by the FBI, so give us, give
us all the Epstein records. We want the death records,
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we want the stuff about what the FBI withheld. Talk
to us about how that happened, and give us the
records genuinely, you know, quite broadly. And instead they have
been it's been radio silence. It's been three months of
no records. We haven't even gotten the file. They leaked
to the social media influencers and in court the other day,
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I think I tweeted it out. I think they used
the phrase exceptional circumstances. I guess the exceptional circumstances was
they were writing a memo for Axios. So the court
hasn't been told any of this. They've made the conclusion
that we'll get no more documents that looks like or
a good number of documents will be withheld. And what's
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good about the lawsuit is that everything that they're saying
here they're going to have to justify in court in
some in no small measure. What records are you withholding? Oh,
they are under sealed. Let's talk about that. Let's describe
what type of records are under seal, What records can't
be disclosed because they're undersealed, et cetera. Whose privacy would
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be violated if records were released. All the excuses they're
making here they're going to have to bolster in court
and memo or no memo, our lawsuits continuing.
Speaker 4 (24:03):
What No, But why have they not just very similar
by the way, you know Pam Bondi recovered wall to wall.
I've known it for years. I consider her friend. We're
a huge supporter. When when Gates dropped out, she was
kind of next man a President Trump, honor Fine Cash.
It goes without saying, a co host, almost like a
brother to us. Dan Bongino, one of the heroes of
our movement. So this is not personal, But why has
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just because this is not my line of country. Also,
why has DOJ not just done one basic thing and
gone to the courts and say and say we want
to unseal all the records associated with Epstein so the
American people can see it? Why and then release those
This is especially about the most transparent administration ever. Why
has that not been Why has that not even happened?
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Why are they fighting that?
Speaker 6 (24:52):
Because they're not going to be perpetuating on founded theories
about Epstein, and no further disclos will be appropriate or warranted.
That's what they're telling the American people. All of the
concerns you have about Epstein, they're all unfounded. And how
are they Why are they unfounded? Because we reviewed the
evidence we're not going to give to you and concluded
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that it's there's no there there, and there may be
no they are there, but show show us the records.
And this just again shows contempt for the people's right
to know. I've said it once. I've said it before.
The Justice Department and the FBI are irredeemably compromised and corrupted.
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The leadership needs to understand that and act accordingly. I
mean the FBI moving to another building. That's nice. I
tell you what, We've got three extra offices, maybe two
extra offices at Judicial Watch. We can lend them. That's
all they should need.
Speaker 4 (25:52):
That's all they should have. That's all they That shuts.
Speaker 6 (25:55):
Down the agency. And he's the only one there with
a guy there check his email.
Speaker 4 (26:00):
Amen. Okay, hang on a second. We're gonna go to
break combry back. Philip Patrick careob but I gotta keep fitting.
It shouldn't be lost in anybody. Why was Mark Caputo
on Morning Joe and saying about another reporters story on Epstein.
He was there for the Kennedy exclusive, which we now
know the CIA has actively lied to you about their
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involvement with Oswald and everything related to the Kennedy investigation.
Speaker 6 (26:26):
Can't you see the irony?
Speaker 4 (26:29):
Actually, how many decades after President Kennedy assassinated actually, let
me change that, murdered in broad daylight and in cold
blood in Dallas, Texas, that the CIA has been lying
about their involvement with with Oswald before the fact lied
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that breaks on actual. John Salmon is going to be
your here with all other revelations about the CIA over
the weekend with Brennan and at the same time hit
you with the wet fish.
Speaker 9 (26:58):
Here he Stephen k.
Speaker 5 (27:01):
Bath.
Speaker 4 (27:06):
Every problem we have in the Central War we have
to win is against the deep state and the administrative state.
You look today, Bebie's coming over net and how is
coming over Hey. It's not a big, big victory for
the non interventionist and the people who stopped who had
President Trump's back and closing down the twelve Day war
with the massive bombing run. It's not any big public fanfare.
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It's kind of Oh, he's going to come for dinner
at six point thirty and they'll slip him in through
the side door, right, And I'm not even let's not
even make the connections yet because Tom Finnon's going to
make it as a game back on the show of
Epstein in certain intelligence services, the deportations, everything we have.
If we don't take down the deep state in the
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next three and a half years on Trump's watch, we're
screwed with all the things that I do. Because you
look at the connectic part of the Third World War
in Ukraine, in the Middle East. At the heart of
it's the deep state driving this. We have to take part.
The Kennedy revelation is a bombshell. The CIA, which we've
said for years now, they admit, they admit that Angleton
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and all of them looked you in the eye, went
to Congress, went to they were under subpoena to forget
the Warren Commission. That was a crime scene itself, the
Warren Commission, between the FBI and the CIA, the great
institutions in this country that people depended upon looked you
in the eye and lied to you because of their actions,
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the covering up of their actions. This is why the
devolution of the United States of America. You can take
one day, twenty two January twenty two, November nineteen sixty three. Boom,
Now what two pm Central time? Boom, Tom Finton, you're
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gonna fight the goods? What is your action plan on
this one? Because you've been on this like a dog
on a bone and Finton does not let the bone go.
What is your action plan? You going to tell this audience, Well.
Speaker 6 (29:03):
The lawsuits going to continue for the Epstein records. It's
it's simple, there's a federal foil lawsuit. They've got to
start producing records to judicial watch or explaining to the
court what records specifically they'rewithholding. Why. You know, what was
really incredible was we asked for records that Pambondi had
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about the Epstein matter, and they came back said that
she had nothing. I mean, she talked about having all
these records on her desk and then they come back
and tell us they had nothing. So this has got
to proceed, And it kind of goes back to our
earlier idea. The President should recognize the Justice Department is
an agency that thinks it's above the law and outside
(29:45):
the constraints of the Constitution in terms of checks and balances.
Doesn't mean that pam Bondi thinks that no, but that's
the culture of the Justice Department. It's the culture in
many ways of the FBI. I don't even think they
are run by the this department. It's just I mean,
it's independent agency on top of independent agency, which is
an abomination under our republic. And I think the President
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should just set up his own investigative unit, his own
prosecutorial unit, his own special counsels as the chief Magistrate,
and investigate everything that he thinks needs to be investigated.
And he needs to start folling your Justice Department. In
the meantime, why have you prosecuted Garland. I'm directing you
(30:31):
to prosecute Garland. I'm directing you to prosecute Komi for
trying to get me killed. I am ordering you to
do so. If you don't, I will find someone who
will prosecute him, or I'll do it myself.
Speaker 4 (30:49):
The Special prosecutor has to be a point on his
Article two powers, has to be appointed by the President
and has to report to the Office of the President,
not to Pambondi. That's what we're demanding on the twenty
twenty election. But there's a whole raft of stuff did
the Justice Department, FBI can't can't go because you have
a couple of people over there hanging on by their fingertips,
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and we have to take these apparatuses down. Who is it?
Where do people get you on social media?
Speaker 6 (31:16):
I mean Epstein? Epstein was under the watch of the
Justice Department when he died. Why are they investigating it?
Speaker 4 (31:29):
Or if they said they by the way, if they
came in and said there's no it's the evidence things
of a of a suicide, put the evidence out. Let's
see what Bill Barr and those guys did. Let's show
the receipts. The war and Posse wants the receipts.
Speaker 6 (31:43):
They want receipts the evidence is, or the family had
an alternative autopsy done that indicated murder and homicide not suicide.
They did they analyze that autopsy? Or doctor was it?
Doctor Baiden? We want the records, and you know there's
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a process for releasing them. And they're not above the law,
and they need to follow for you, Tom.
Speaker 4 (32:16):
Where they go on social media and where they go
on judicial watch to find you all your material information.
Speaker 6 (32:23):
Judicialwatch dot org, Twitter, Rumble, YouTube, get truth, you name it.
We're all over. We are the biggest movement in the
conservative side of the aisle for transparency and accountability. We're
not the sleeping giant.
Speaker 4 (32:42):
You're an action center. You're a giant. You're a beast.
You're a beast, but you're taking action. There's no theoretical
He ain't doing white papers, he's not having conferences to
talk about things. Finton in that team are on it
like they've been since the time I met him ten
twelve years ago. We're in Obama's regime. He was all
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over him every day filing something. He was the people
we call it the People's Justice Department. I guess you're
back to that, bro, I guess your maga's Justice Department.
Speaker 6 (33:15):
Unbelievable to change.
Speaker 4 (33:17):
And President Trump, I think, and President Trump needs to
hear this. I hope you have a direct phone call
with him today, Tom, because I know he really thinks
so highly of you and your actions. We got to bounce, brother.
I'll talk to you after the show. We'll figure this.
Speaker 6 (33:28):
Out, all right.
Speaker 4 (33:29):
They got this gotta be a like Article three we
do with Davis. We got to do a war room
judicial watch partnership here to drive this. Tom Finton, what
a good man, we're gonna have more. We've got Solomon
coming up. We're running a little behind Clopper and get
to it. Of course, in all of this, the biggest
thing over the weekend, maybe long term, was down in
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down in Brazil. It got the President's attention, as we
had in the cold open Philip Patrick. He threw down
hard when he kept hearing this d dollars chit chat.
He said, Hey, how about this. Any you guys sign
up for this thing?
Speaker 2 (34:05):
Right?
Speaker 4 (34:05):
Any guys sign up for this thing? Add another ten
percent on top of what I'm going to do to
you anyway, Uh your thought? Tell me give us an
update of what actually happened and what triggered the President
United States, sir.
Speaker 10 (34:19):
Look in terms of the trigger, I'm glad he's paying attention,
and he clearly is that. We saw the tweets come in,
you know, in the morning our time here in Brazil.
It's interesting there's been you know, at the conferences themselves,
there's been very little talk of de dollarization, and I
think ultimately that was a strategic move. I think they
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want the least amount of damage possible and they wanted
unsuccessfully of course, to avoid drawing the attention of President
Trump to prevent ultimately risks. But what we're seeing is
that the conversations, the discussions have centered on bilateral trade deals,
right we're seeing them happening around the city quite frankly,
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But what we're talking about is deals for direct trade
between nations in local currency. So although they're not using
the term de dollarization, it's exactly what it is. That
the way that they're framing this thing, and I think
it's smart from their perspective, is enhancing cooperation in critical
minerals and technology, making supply chains more secure and resilient.
(35:23):
But you know, the interesting part from my perspective is
the Bricks are now trying to position themselves. They've sort
of seize the opportunity to position themselves now as pro
trade and an anti protectionist union, calling tariffs now a
threat to global economic stability the upshot and the interesting
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part is the group long presumed to be forging an
alternative to our US led order, is now projecting itself
as the defender of those same core values. They're saying,
we are anti anti American, we're just pro trade, and
that's really the argument from the Bricks at the moment.
Speaker 4 (36:05):
So President Trump in his redoing of the commercial relationships
of the world, with the United States as the premier market. Right,
once you get to you, he says, you got two choices.
Either bring your resure your manufacturing, or bring your manufacturing
here to create jobs in opportunities, or you're going to
pay up. You're going to pay a premium like you
do it a soccer game to get a box or
at a concert. You're going to pay a premium to
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get through the golden door into the golden market for
the golden age that has got them. That's he's inside
their brain on this, right, He's inside their decision loops.
So everything they do is framed in that of how
we don't bring the wrath at Trump down upon us.
Speaker 10 (36:45):
You can see it, right, Like I said, you can
see it and how they're phrasing things, and I think
it's ultimately President Trump has two options, right, one is
the carrot and the other is the stick. The carrot's
not looking that viable, right. What a carrot means when
it comes to currency is strength, value, liquidity. But it's
going to be an uphill battle given the spending situation
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at home, given that the debt position that the President
Trump inherited. The other alternative is obviously sticks, right, trade embargos,
tariff sanctions, forcing company countries sorry to make a choice.
And like I said, I think it's the only option
he has at the moment, and I think it's going
to work on some countries, but on others, right, the UK, Japan,
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possibly India. We can throw a spanner into the works
for the bricks, and we can force nations to choose
longer term or shorter term I should say countries like
Russia and China. That's a little bit more nuanced, right.
I think that the threats of tariffs can dissuade some
nation shorter term and create bumps in the road for
the bricks, But over the longer term, I think they're
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going to be problematic and ultimately could longer term work
against us. The one thing we've learned coming out here
is that countries have long memories.
Speaker 6 (37:59):
Right.
Speaker 10 (38:00):
The bricks are trying to frame this summit as a
response to Trump's Liberation Day tariffs, but it's so much
more than that, Right, this is a response.
Speaker 6 (38:08):
To decades of history.
Speaker 10 (38:09):
The twenty twenty two freezing of Russia's dollar assets, the
twenty fourteen sanctions over the crimea invasion were mentioned to US,
the two thousand and eight financial crisis, and here in Brazil,
as I mentioned last time, the nineteen eighties debt crisis.
So you know it's going to be tough longer term.
This isn't a binary situation, right, you know, as I've
(38:32):
said and very clear, we're not looking at a situation
where you know, tomorrow dollars are worthless. What we're looking at,
I think is a slow and steady chipping away of
the dollar's global role once necessary. Today just another option,
and one that looks increasingly less attractive. So absent of
this steady source of global demand, I think what we
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could see is the dollars purchasing powerwayne longer term. Look,
this isn't a situation one administration created, and I'm not
sure it's in a situation one administration can fix either.
I think President Trump's doing everything right. He's doing what
he can do. How it plays out, I think, to
some degree is beyond our control at the moment.
Speaker 4 (39:19):
Is and I want you to hang on. I'm gotta
get John Salmon here, but I want you to hang
over and go to break. Is it your assessment. Give
me a thirty second answer on this, then we'll go
to break, I'll get more depth, and we get back.
Is it your assessment right now that the central banks
will continue to purchase gold at the rates the person
as a hedge against the United States.
Speaker 10 (39:43):
Yeah, quite honestly, I don't see it letting up. And
our trip here has confirmed that, Like I said, the
administration of making the right decisions with the tools that
they have in front of us. But I've said it
before and I'll say it again, I think the train
left the state. So yes, I think central bank gold
buying will continue, Philip.
Speaker 4 (40:06):
If you can hang on for one second. And by
the way, I'm so proud given everything that you've learned
while you're down there at the rear reset of how
dead spot on we've been for only four years in
writing the end of the dollar Empire and the way
we wrote it, about debt and deficit and the debt
ceiling and then Rio and the bricks nations and what
it all means central banks buying at record rates. These
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finance ministers being you know every day come out of
Stanford Business School, in Chicago Business School, and Harvard Business School.
They have all, they have an HP twelve C and
they can do discount of cash flow right as smart
as anybody working on Wall Street. End of the Dollar Empire.
That's birch Gold dot com slash Bannon seventh free installment,
The Real Reset. We're working on an eighth right now,
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short commercial break. Philip Patrick and John Solomon next in
the ward, Let us take
You're sending letters out on Monday having to do with
the trade deals. It could be twelve, maybe fifteen, you know,
Secretary of Commerce right here, and I guess Howard I
would say, it could be maybe as money as.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Good Peter So.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
And they'll be.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
Going out on Monday, and some will go out on
Tuesday and Wednesday, and it'll and we've we've made deals also,
so we're going to have a combination of letters and
some deals have been made.
Speaker 4 (00:27):
A starting a third party, I.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Think it's ridiculous to start a third party. We have
a tremendous success with the Republican Party. The Democrats have
lost their way, but it's always been a two party
system and I think starting a third party just hands
to confusion. It really seems to have been developed for
two parties. Third parties have never worked. So he can
have fun with it, but I think it's ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
Yeah, we are going to have several announcements in the
next forty eight hours. And Joe, I think what President
Trump is concerned about is the quality of the deals,
not the quantity. As you could imagine as he started
hurting the cats and trying to get everyone across the
finish line when he said that there's a chance that
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countries could boomerang back to their April second reciprocal tariff levels.
We've had a lot of people change their tune in
terms of negotiations. So my mailbox was full last night
with a lot of new offers, a lot of new proposals.
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So it's going to be a busy couple of days.
But importantly too, that President Trump has said that they
would the countries would not go back to the reciprocal
rate until August first.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Fatal Texas flooding demands search for answers along with the
missing the board rights in part quote, was there anything
that could have, indeed should have been done to move
people away from the raging water and avert tragedy. While
hundreds of people continue to search for missing adults and children,
(02:10):
there's no reason other people can't or shouldn't be searching
for answers. We have the wherewithal to do both. One
of the differences between those two searches is that with
the former, the people engaged in it are completely aligned
in what they are seeking. With the latter, we're not
as assured that federal, state and regional leaders are eager
(02:31):
to dig for information that might reveal truths they don't
want to find, or rather that they don't want the
public to learn. What matters is that the urgency with
which we search for the missing is not allowed to
wane after they are found. It must be maintained and
applied to the search for answers that those who survived
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and the memories of those who perished deserve. And The
Dallas Morning News editorial Board has a piece entitled so
many what ifs haunt Guadalupe River flood and it reads
in part this, Once this initial response has ended and
recovery began, state and local officials need to wrestle with
improved warning systems. We need to understand whether improved staffing
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or technology at either the National Weather Service or the
National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration could give more accurate advance warning.
Local officials, meanwhile, must review their own practices and policies.
Should they have acted to require people to move away
from the Guadalupe River they as the rain began to fall.
(03:40):
Should people be permitted to live in camp so close
to the riverbanks? Those are haunting questions. Now, what if
we could have done a thousand things differently and perhaps
spared our state this terrible tragedy. We need to understand
those things and do whatever can be done to ensure
that this doesn't happen again.
Speaker 4 (04:04):
This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
Speaker 5 (04:09):
Pray for our enemies, because we're going to medieval on
these people. You've not got a free shot. All these
networks lying about the people. The people have had a
belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that.
I know you tried to do everything in the world
to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
It's going to happen.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
And where do people like that go to share the
big line? Mega media? I wish in my soul, I
wish that any of these people had a conscience.
Speaker 4 (04:36):
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
If that answer is to save my country, this country
will be saved.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
Room.
Speaker 6 (04:47):
Here's your host, Stephen k.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
Van.
Speaker 4 (04:55):
It's Monday, seven July, Year of Alert twenty twenty five,
a weekend. Folks like none o. There was so many,
so many massive stories and narratives of breaking and so
many things around the world. We're gonna get them all
to we're gonna get to them all to day in
the morning and the afternoon show. It's gonna take us
four hours to do this, so strap in. But for
(05:15):
mek Yes, we're on the search for answers UH, and
we were the first one to bring up, Hey, you
got to get to the bottom of how this happened logistically,
what happened with safety security, all that. You've got these
incredibly brave, you know, search and rescue teams. One guy's
already saved one hundred and sixty five people. They are
fully engaged. We talked to some of the people providing
(05:38):
logistical support the other day. Ben Berkwam's on the on
the banks of the Guadalupe. Ben, and you're gonna go
to the press conference. We're gonna cover as we've done
all weekend. I really want to thank Real America's Avowice, Grace, Moe,
everybody associated, Elizabeth Jane, everybody that worked on this from
our side all weekend, UH and other search for truth. Mika,
(06:01):
I hope you keep an open mind because we got
to start with a basic question. Remember, we're not conspiracy
theory guys here, We're not. But the no coincidence we
have to get to a fundamental and basic We have
to answer a basic question for the American people. Was
this an act of God? Or is this somehow an
(06:22):
active man? And I, Hey, if people's heads are going
to blow up it there they go the war room. Hey,
we've been pretty damn good. Go back, go back and
suck on the pandemic. When we nailed it on the
first day. I think back in January, the January twenty
January twenty one, twenty two of twenty twenty, when we
said exactly what the pandemic was and where it came from.
Ben berkwham and look at that footage. Unbelievable, Ben Berkham
(06:45):
on the banks of Guadeloupe. Give us an update. You're
gonna be there live. You're gonna take off immediately and
go for uh and go to the press conference.
Speaker 7 (06:54):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (06:54):
Where do we stand this morning, sir? On kind of
a black Monday.
Speaker 8 (06:59):
Yeah, thanks, Steve. I just wrapped up an interview with
Senator Ted Cruz. Latest numbers from senator and he's obviously
got up to date. Eighty two dead, twenty four excuse me,
twenty eight children, and ten of those children from Camp
Mystics still missing. That's you know, as of about twenty
five minutes ago. We'll be at the press conference in
(07:21):
just under an hour, and I'm sure we'll be getting
an update on that. It's just it's beyond a tragedy, Steve.
You know this as a daughter of a dad of
a daughter. I'm a dad of three daughters. I just
I cannot comprehend the pain that so many of the
families are experiencing, and the children who lost their parents.
You know, the majority of the lives that have been
(07:43):
lost their adults, so that means children are no longer
going to.
Speaker 4 (07:46):
Have their parents with them.
Speaker 8 (07:47):
So this is not an event that's going to have
ripple impacts for days or weeks or months.
Speaker 4 (07:52):
It's going to be years.
Speaker 8 (07:53):
And to your point, you know, watching the mainstream media
turn this into a circus about President Trump and trying
to connect it to Doge, ignoring that basically scoring political
points on the lives of children, ignoring some of the
obvious questions, and like to your point on the you know,
not being conspiracy theorists.
Speaker 4 (08:14):
We've had rain.
Speaker 8 (08:15):
Manipulation, weather manipulation going on in America for years, and
the you know, for farmers particularly, you got dry areas
this Actually the river was completely dry last year. It
because of droughts, and so they've been this a company
called rain Maker that flies over. They seed the clouds
and you get more rain. Well, there's a there's a
legitimate question. Did that have any impact? Did it increase
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the amount of water from that tropical storm that came up?
I don't know. I don't have an answer to that.
Those questions need to be asked. They're legitimate. They need
to be asking the future. Should we have an early
warning system like we have with tornadoes, where sirens go
off and and somebody goes down to those camps and says,
at even at three in the morning, when they're still sleeping,
get the hell out of here.
Speaker 4 (08:56):
I think I think.
Speaker 8 (08:57):
That's an absolutely legitimate question. But to spend all your
efforts and trying to play gotcha while we're still searching
for ten missing young girls and potentially dozens of additional adults,
the unknown missing is unknown right now, and so it's
you know, that's the focus, and what we should be
prioritizing is that thanking law enforcement and first responders for
(09:19):
doing their jobs. These guys are absolute heroes, and then
we can deal with the rest of that afterwards.
Speaker 4 (09:26):
Okay, this is gets to a different point that and
we're going to talk a lot of economics. Say we've
got it's a jam show. But and look the geo
engineering and the chemtrails, that's not my line of country.
And the audience, the thing knows, they know where we
cover what we feel comfortable when we understand we have
(09:47):
I think better knowledge or understanding of certain situations, and
we can help people, you know, get access to that knowledge.
There's some things and not that I haven't been pitched
and spent time with the geo engineering people or the
anti geo engineering p or should say, and the chemtrails people.
But you see a situation like this, it's pretty obvious
you got to start. There's all kind of questions about
(10:08):
the logistics and decisions made and warning and all this
from you know, five o'clock the previous afternoon. They'll have
a timeline and what happened. They'll be details that will
be written and I'm sure court hearings and civil suits
and all of it, and that'll all come out over time.
And who the heroes were and some people that flinched, right,
all that will come out. But a very basic question
(10:31):
that has to be answered. Was this an act of
God or was this an act of man? Or a
man has some role in the overall? Right, And of
course they're going to policize, but that's at a superficial level.
And you kind of see what Fox is doing right
now to kind of get away from the question of
is there something here that we should be really investigating?
(10:52):
The deep state? The biggest how do I say this politely?
And you saw this last night from what Cash and
these guys put out in Tom Finton, who's the best
is going to be? Is right up? He was going
to start the show, but we got to start with
Ben because of this tragedy. And right there the look
at the look at the that right there is the
power of nature right now? Who was nature? Was it
(11:16):
just nature on its own or somehow uh, some sort
of a technology by the hand of man. And this
gets into every issue we're dealing with. This gets back
to artificial intelligence. This gets back to the singularity, to
quantum computing, regentitive robotics, artificial general intelligence. Where a man
remember the the in the Gospel of Mark right to
(11:39):
blaspheme the Holy Spirit is the unforgivable sin, the mortal
sin that Jesus Christ themselves said, Hey, I'm no good.
If you do that, don't come looking for me. I
can't help you because it's unforgivable. We have to get
into the deep state and find out exactly in this
apparatus these people that have made themselves gods right, what
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are they doing and what we have to understand it.
If we don't do this, we're not a constitutional republic.
This entire apparatus, the entire system of government is based
upon an informed citizenry in the consent of the govern
This is what July forth July force, and not about
backyard barbecues and magnificent fireworks and waving the American flag
(12:24):
and doing what everybody does know. It's a commitment back
to first principles, first principles of those individuals who put
it all online and created a republic that's lasted longer
than any other. And this experiment continues on, and this
experiment's only going to continue on if we ask the
(12:46):
tough questions and do what's unreasonable sometimes and stand in
the breach. That's what makes the MAGA movement so different.
That's what they fear you so much. You're just not
going to sit there and be happy talk to We're
not going to be happy talked to these things. And
the answers will take us wherever the answers take us,
and we'll deal with it at the time, but we're
certainly going to look into it to all of it.
(13:10):
Those little girls demand it. They demand it. We owe
it to them like we'd owe it to everybody came
before us. That's who we owe it to. Our responsibility
is to them to know political party, to know political philosophy.
To them, they are just as much patriots there's any
(13:31):
patriots that died in service to their country. Ben Burkewe
I know you got a bolt. Thank you very much
for the update. I'm still a little confused about the numbers,
but at eleven o'clock, I'll pick your brain. How does
that sound? Somehow the math still doesn't add up to me.
But I'm I'm just a simple, you know, dumb mick.
But eventually I'll get the math right here, Ben Berke
(13:51):
on where can people follow you NonStop star and get
all your interviews?
Speaker 6 (13:56):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (13:56):
I got a time more coming out footage we shot yesterday,
more we're shooting today at Ben Berkwam, most important one
at Real America's Voice. It's at Real am Voice on
x and at Real America's Voice on Instagram. Get her
all the rest of it.
Speaker 4 (14:12):
It's still raining out there in the hill country. Incredible
in North Carolina got hammered last night, all the way
from Southern Pines and Pinehurst, all the way up from
Chapel Hill. You see the footage. Incredible, Ben Berkwam, go
with God. We'll see eleven o'clock eastern daylight time, start
the second hour. Yes, sir, thank you, my good friend
(14:34):
and kyteague Tom Finton, who I think has done the
most work in the serious work about trying to get
to the bottom at least do official channels. There's other
people that are doing great, great investigation of the tire
Epstein situation and so on top of everything. Last night
another bombshell dropped by the FBI, and DJ Tom Finton
will be here to explain it all to you short Break.
Speaker 6 (14:57):
America.
Speaker 7 (15:00):
Speaking of transparency and records, we had another story in
Axios that ran last night from my colleague Alex Eisenstead,
where the Department of Justice has in the Epstein case,
decided we're not going to release all of the records
related to that. Oh, by the way, Jeffrey Epstein committed suicide.
There is no client list, and that's that.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
I think if there's one thing we learned.
Speaker 7 (15:22):
From the JFK case, it's probably a good idea in
these instances to over disclose. But the administration in this
case has decided not to do that. However, in the
JFK case, they are and people who have been very
critical of the CIA are saying, at least John Radcliffe,
who's the head of the CIA, and Tulci Gabbert, the
Director of National Intelligence, are making this series taking the serious.
Speaker 9 (15:44):
So the reporting from Axius is that the DOJ is
saying there is no evidence that convicted sex offendor Jeffrey
Epstein couple lists of high profile clients and yeah, and
talk about the complication of that for the DOJ and
(16:06):
for others. There's been so much disinformation surrounding client lists
apparently and all these other things that it's something that
leaders in the FBI have obviously been trying to explain
to the MAGA base, who who don't appear to want
to hear.
Speaker 7 (16:25):
This, Well, they don't cash Hotel, the director of the FBI,
and especially the deputy director Assistant Director Dan Bongino. He
used to be a podcaster and was one of the
large proponents the idea that there's an eptein list there,
this is a cover up, This reaches to the highest
level any wants that, being the number two guy at
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the FBI, and now I was like, oh, well, I've
looked at the evidence. All of that's not true. So
of course this branch is two ways. Either Bongino has
been corrupted by the very conspiracy that he claimed exists,
or the conspiracy really didn't exist. And it turns out
that doing your job as a sworn law enforcement officer
in a government agency that is governing is a lot
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harder than podcasting, and at a certain point the facts matter.
We don't have, obviously, all the access to all of
the information, so we can't say certainly Jeffrey Epstein, who
was a person of great interest and was incarcerated in
a federal walk up, having committed suicide when he was
under suicide watch is very suspicious. However, the FBI is
(17:33):
released what it says are the ten hours of video
footage showing no one went into a cell.
Speaker 4 (17:38):
So from the evidence we have.
Speaker 7 (17:40):
Right now, it does look as if what DJ is
saying is the truth. Well, once again, we don't have
all the records, and what we've seen in the JFK
case is more transparency is probably better, not.
Speaker 4 (17:51):
Less, Tumfinton, because on top of everything else going this week,
I just don't even understand the timing of this. Although
I think we can make we can speculate, but I
want to go to you for facts. You you are
(18:11):
really I never thought i'd say this, Tom, but you
were our Justice Department during the Obama years. You were
on Bright Part Radio with me every all the time,
almost every day. We were putting lead stories up what
you guys were doing. I made a film about you guys.
I made a film that actually starred you and your team,
a district of corruption that I'm very proud of, that
(18:33):
really went to the heart of of what you guys
do and uh and now and people are are so
close to Pam and the and the and the you know,
Cash was a was a co host here right and
I made I made the film about Cash, or made
the film about Tom Finton, dishrirt corruption. I made Government
Gangsters off of the book Government Gangsters why did I
(18:55):
make it off government gangsters, just like Tom Finton, who
is like Elliott Nass Cash Hotel Us like Elliott and Ness.
And he named names, and he had facts and he
backed it up. And guess what, nobody suit us right
because it was all facts. And of course Dan Bong
is one of the greats in our movement. So Fenton,
please explain that our audience, what in the hell happened?
(19:15):
What is this thing that came out last night? Sir?
Speaker 6 (19:19):
I don't know. I read the memo three or four
times again this morning, and it's it's really I don't
think even the Biden administration would have written anything like this.
I just don't think they could have thought they could
get away with it. And I got to wonder what
is going on at the leadership of the Justice Department
(19:40):
in the FBI to allow him to think that statements
like as follows, this is a class. Of course, we're
suing for this stuff, right, And so they say the
systemic systematic review field no incriminating client list. So there's
(20:05):
a client list, but it's not incriminating, so therefore you
can't see it. There is also no credible evidence that
found that Epstein blackmailed prominent individuals as part of his actions. Well,
give us the incredible evidence. We did not uncover evidence
(20:25):
that could predicate an investigation against uncharged third parties. So
they uncovered evidence, but it wasn't enough to predicate an
investigation against uncharged third parties. So you can go line
by line and kind of, you know, go through this
analysis that I'm going through. It may be unfair or
(20:46):
overly critical, but in my view, unless you have the
records that back up the conclusions you've drawn in this,
in a case such as this, this isn't worth much
and it's disturbing. It was leaked to Axios time. There's
been a leak to Axious by the way, by this
Justice Department in FBI. Remember we sued for the Biden
(21:07):
videotapes of his interview with her. We were in court,
literally in federal court. They're stonewalling us, and what do
they do. They give it to Axios. Here they give
it to Axios and I mean Mamo. By the way,
it kind of dripped with contempt for people like you Bannon,
(21:28):
for judicial Watch, for anyone asking questions, give us the.
Speaker 4 (21:30):
Doctor judicial no listen, we we I'd love Markaputa. We've
had him on the show. We're gonna have him on
the show again because they leaked to him. The Kennedy,
the massive Ciaight League, and John Solomon the best. So
you got, you got Finton, you got Bannon, you got Solomon,
they got so hang on. So I have no problem
with Mike Allen in Axos. It is the consensus thinking
(21:52):
of the apparatus. Okay. Also, some people at the White
House are quite close to these people, so this was
a wealthy out through leak to a super prominent particularly
late at night, more than Drudge. Everybody will read acting
us on a Sunday night before you go, there's about exclusive.
I just went for the audience to be very specific
judicial watching Tom Finton are suing Doo Jay, I think
(22:15):
the FBI, what are you suing about? Why is your
suit so important to this? And this is kind of
a response to your suit. Brother.
Speaker 6 (22:24):
Well, we saw we saw the kind of this cluster
with the release of the documents to the social media people, right,
many of whom are friends of ours, which is fine,
But then then they said, well, there were materials that
were with held by the FBI, so give us, give
us all the Epstein records. We want the death records,
(22:45):
we want the stuff about what the FBI withheld. Talk
to us about how that happened, and give us the
records genuinely, you know, quite broadly. And instead they have
been it's been radio silence. It's been three months of
no records. We haven't even gotten the file. They leaked
to the social media influencers and in court the other day,
(23:07):
I think I tweeted it out. I think they used
the phrase exceptional circumstances. I guess the exceptional circumstances was
they were writing a memo for Axios. So the court
hasn't been told any of this. They've made the conclusion
that we'll get no more documents that looks like or
a good number of documents will be withheld. And what's
(23:29):
good about the lawsuit is that everything that they're saying
here they're going to have to justify in court in
some in no small measure. What records are you withholding? Oh,
they are under sealed. Let's talk about that. Let's describe
what type of records are under seal, What records can't
be disclosed because they're undersealed, et cetera. Whose privacy would
(23:52):
be violated if records were released. All the excuses they're
making here they're going to have to bolster in court
and memo or no memo, our lawsuits continuing.
Speaker 4 (24:03):
What No, But why have they not just very similar
by the way, you know Pam Bondi recovered wall to wall.
I've known it for years. I consider her friend. We're
a huge supporter. When when Gates dropped out, she was
kind of next man a President Trump, honor Fine Cash.
It goes without saying, a co host, almost like a
brother to us. Dan Bongino, one of the heroes of
our movement. So this is not personal, But why has
(24:27):
just because this is not my line of country. Also,
why has DOJ not just done one basic thing and
gone to the courts and say and say we want
to unseal all the records associated with Epstein so the
American people can see it? Why and then release those
This is especially about the most transparent administration ever. Why
has that not been Why has that not even happened?
(24:49):
Why are they fighting that?
Speaker 6 (24:52):
Because they're not going to be perpetuating on founded theories
about Epstein, and no further disclos will be appropriate or warranted.
That's what they're telling the American people. All of the
concerns you have about Epstein, they're all unfounded. And how
are they Why are they unfounded? Because we reviewed the
evidence we're not going to give to you and concluded
(25:15):
that it's there's no there there, and there may be
no they are there, but show show us the records.
And this just again shows contempt for the people's right
to know. I've said it once. I've said it before.
The Justice Department and the FBI are irredeemably compromised and corrupted.
(25:36):
The leadership needs to understand that and act accordingly. I
mean the FBI moving to another building. That's nice. I
tell you what, We've got three extra offices, maybe two
extra offices at Judicial Watch. We can lend them. That's
all they should need.
Speaker 4 (25:52):
That's all they should have. That's all they That shuts.
Speaker 6 (25:55):
Down the agency. And he's the only one there with
a guy there check his email.
Speaker 4 (26:00):
Amen. Okay, hang on a second. We're gonna go to
break combry back. Philip Patrick careob but I gotta keep fitting.
It shouldn't be lost in anybody. Why was Mark Caputo
on Morning Joe and saying about another reporters story on Epstein.
He was there for the Kennedy exclusive, which we now
know the CIA has actively lied to you about their
(26:21):
involvement with Oswald and everything related to the Kennedy investigation.
Speaker 6 (26:26):
Can't you see the irony?
Speaker 4 (26:29):
Actually, how many decades after President Kennedy assassinated actually, let
me change that, murdered in broad daylight and in cold
blood in Dallas, Texas, that the CIA has been lying
about their involvement with with Oswald before the fact lied
(26:49):
that breaks on actual. John Salmon is going to be
your here with all other revelations about the CIA over
the weekend with Brennan and at the same time hit
you with the wet fish.
Speaker 9 (26:58):
Here he Stephen k.
Speaker 5 (27:01):
Bath.
Speaker 4 (27:06):
Every problem we have in the Central War we have
to win is against the deep state and the administrative state.
You look today, Bebie's coming over net and how is
coming over Hey. It's not a big, big victory for
the non interventionist and the people who stopped who had
President Trump's back and closing down the twelve Day war
with the massive bombing run. It's not any big public fanfare.
(27:27):
It's kind of Oh, he's going to come for dinner
at six point thirty and they'll slip him in through
the side door, right, And I'm not even let's not
even make the connections yet because Tom Finnon's going to
make it as a game back on the show of
Epstein in certain intelligence services, the deportations, everything we have.
If we don't take down the deep state in the
(27:48):
next three and a half years on Trump's watch, we're
screwed with all the things that I do. Because you
look at the connectic part of the Third World War
in Ukraine, in the Middle East. At the heart of
it's the deep state driving this. We have to take part.
The Kennedy revelation is a bombshell. The CIA, which we've
said for years now, they admit, they admit that Angleton
(28:10):
and all of them looked you in the eye, went
to Congress, went to they were under subpoena to forget
the Warren Commission. That was a crime scene itself, the
Warren Commission, between the FBI and the CIA, the great
institutions in this country that people depended upon looked you
in the eye and lied to you because of their actions,
(28:30):
the covering up of their actions. This is why the
devolution of the United States of America. You can take
one day, twenty two January twenty two, November nineteen sixty three. Boom,
Now what two pm Central time? Boom, Tom Finton, you're
(28:52):
gonna fight the goods? What is your action plan on
this one? Because you've been on this like a dog
on a bone and Finton does not let the bone go.
What is your action plan? You going to tell this audience, Well.
Speaker 6 (29:03):
The lawsuits going to continue for the Epstein records. It's
it's simple, there's a federal foil lawsuit. They've got to
start producing records to judicial watch or explaining to the
court what records specifically they'rewithholding. Why. You know, what was
really incredible was we asked for records that Pambondi had
(29:25):
about the Epstein matter, and they came back said that
she had nothing. I mean, she talked about having all
these records on her desk and then they come back
and tell us they had nothing. So this has got
to proceed, And it kind of goes back to our
earlier idea. The President should recognize the Justice Department is
an agency that thinks it's above the law and outside
(29:45):
the constraints of the Constitution in terms of checks and balances.
Doesn't mean that pam Bondi thinks that no, but that's
the culture of the Justice Department. It's the culture in
many ways of the FBI. I don't even think they
are run by the this department. It's just I mean,
it's independent agency on top of independent agency, which is
an abomination under our republic. And I think the President
(30:09):
should just set up his own investigative unit, his own
prosecutorial unit, his own special counsels as the chief Magistrate,
and investigate everything that he thinks needs to be investigated.
And he needs to start folling your Justice Department. In
the meantime, why have you prosecuted Garland. I'm directing you
(30:31):
to prosecute Garland. I'm directing you to prosecute Komi for
trying to get me killed. I am ordering you to
do so. If you don't, I will find someone who
will prosecute him, or I'll do it myself.
Speaker 4 (30:49):
The Special prosecutor has to be a point on his
Article two powers, has to be appointed by the President
and has to report to the Office of the President,
not to Pambondi. That's what we're demanding on the twenty
twenty election. But there's a whole raft of stuff did
the Justice Department, FBI can't can't go because you have
a couple of people over there hanging on by their fingertips,
(31:10):
and we have to take these apparatuses down. Who is it?
Where do people get you on social media?
Speaker 6 (31:16):
I mean Epstein? Epstein was under the watch of the
Justice Department when he died. Why are they investigating it?
Speaker 4 (31:29):
Or if they said they by the way, if they
came in and said there's no it's the evidence things
of a of a suicide, put the evidence out. Let's
see what Bill Barr and those guys did. Let's show
the receipts. The war and Posse wants the receipts.
Speaker 6 (31:43):
They want receipts the evidence is, or the family had
an alternative autopsy done that indicated murder and homicide not suicide.
They did they analyze that autopsy? Or doctor was it?
Doctor Baiden? We want the records, and you know there's
(32:08):
a process for releasing them. And they're not above the law,
and they need to follow for you, Tom.
Speaker 4 (32:16):
Where they go on social media and where they go
on judicial watch to find you all your material information.
Speaker 6 (32:23):
Judicialwatch dot org, Twitter, Rumble, YouTube, get truth, you name it.
We're all over. We are the biggest movement in the
conservative side of the aisle for transparency and accountability. We're
not the sleeping giant.
Speaker 4 (32:42):
You're an action center. You're a giant. You're a beast.
You're a beast, but you're taking action. There's no theoretical
He ain't doing white papers, he's not having conferences to
talk about things. Finton in that team are on it
like they've been since the time I met him ten
twelve years ago. We're in Obama's regime. He was all
(33:03):
over him every day filing something. He was the people
we call it the People's Justice Department. I guess you're
back to that, bro, I guess your maga's Justice Department.
Speaker 6 (33:15):
Unbelievable to change.
Speaker 4 (33:17):
And President Trump, I think, and President Trump needs to
hear this. I hope you have a direct phone call
with him today, Tom, because I know he really thinks
so highly of you and your actions. We got to bounce, brother.
I'll talk to you after the show. We'll figure this.
Speaker 6 (33:28):
Out, all right.
Speaker 4 (33:29):
They got this gotta be a like Article three we
do with Davis. We got to do a war room
judicial watch partnership here to drive this. Tom Finton, what
a good man, we're gonna have more. We've got Solomon
coming up. We're running a little behind Clopper and get
to it. Of course, in all of this, the biggest
thing over the weekend, maybe long term, was down in
(33:51):
down in Brazil. It got the President's attention, as we
had in the cold open Philip Patrick. He threw down
hard when he kept hearing this d dollars chit chat.
He said, Hey, how about this. Any you guys sign
up for this thing?
Speaker 2 (34:05):
Right?
Speaker 4 (34:05):
Any guys sign up for this thing? Add another ten
percent on top of what I'm going to do to
you anyway, Uh your thought? Tell me give us an
update of what actually happened and what triggered the President
United States, sir.
Speaker 10 (34:19):
Look in terms of the trigger, I'm glad he's paying attention,
and he clearly is that. We saw the tweets come in,
you know, in the morning our time here in Brazil.
It's interesting there's been you know, at the conferences themselves,
there's been very little talk of de dollarization, and I
think ultimately that was a strategic move. I think they
(34:40):
want the least amount of damage possible and they wanted
unsuccessfully of course, to avoid drawing the attention of President
Trump to prevent ultimately risks. But what we're seeing is
that the conversations, the discussions have centered on bilateral trade deals,
right we're seeing them happening around the city quite frankly,
(35:00):
But what we're talking about is deals for direct trade
between nations in local currency. So although they're not using
the term de dollarization, it's exactly what it is. That
the way that they're framing this thing, and I think
it's smart from their perspective, is enhancing cooperation in critical
minerals and technology, making supply chains more secure and resilient.
(35:23):
But you know, the interesting part from my perspective is
the Bricks are now trying to position themselves. They've sort
of seize the opportunity to position themselves now as pro
trade and an anti protectionist union, calling tariffs now a
threat to global economic stability the upshot and the interesting
(35:43):
part is the group long presumed to be forging an
alternative to our US led order, is now projecting itself
as the defender of those same core values. They're saying,
we are anti anti American, we're just pro trade, and
that's really the argument from the Bricks at the moment.
Speaker 4 (36:05):
So President Trump in his redoing of the commercial relationships
of the world, with the United States as the premier market. Right,
once you get to you, he says, you got two choices.
Either bring your resure your manufacturing, or bring your manufacturing
here to create jobs in opportunities, or you're going to
pay up. You're going to pay a premium like you
do it a soccer game to get a box or
at a concert. You're going to pay a premium to
(36:28):
get through the golden door into the golden market for
the golden age that has got them. That's he's inside
their brain on this, right, He's inside their decision loops.
So everything they do is framed in that of how
we don't bring the wrath at Trump down upon us.
Speaker 10 (36:45):
You can see it, right, Like I said, you can
see it and how they're phrasing things, and I think
it's ultimately President Trump has two options, right, one is
the carrot and the other is the stick. The carrot's
not looking that viable, right. What a carrot means when
it comes to currency is strength, value, liquidity. But it's
going to be an uphill battle given the spending situation
(37:07):
at home, given that the debt position that the President
Trump inherited. The other alternative is obviously sticks, right, trade embargos,
tariff sanctions, forcing company countries sorry to make a choice.
And like I said, I think it's the only option
he has at the moment, and I think it's going
to work on some countries, but on others, right, the UK, Japan,
(37:28):
possibly India. We can throw a spanner into the works
for the bricks, and we can force nations to choose
longer term or shorter term I should say countries like
Russia and China. That's a little bit more nuanced, right.
I think that the threats of tariffs can dissuade some
nation shorter term and create bumps in the road for
the bricks, But over the longer term, I think they're
(37:50):
going to be problematic and ultimately could longer term work
against us. The one thing we've learned coming out here
is that countries have long memories.
Speaker 6 (37:59):
Right.
Speaker 10 (38:00):
The bricks are trying to frame this summit as a
response to Trump's Liberation Day tariffs, but it's so much
more than that, Right, this is a response.
Speaker 6 (38:08):
To decades of history.
Speaker 10 (38:09):
The twenty twenty two freezing of Russia's dollar assets, the
twenty fourteen sanctions over the crimea invasion were mentioned to US,
the two thousand and eight financial crisis, and here in Brazil,
as I mentioned last time, the nineteen eighties debt crisis.
So you know it's going to be tough longer term.
This isn't a binary situation, right, you know, as I've
(38:32):
said and very clear, we're not looking at a situation
where you know, tomorrow dollars are worthless. What we're looking at,
I think is a slow and steady chipping away of
the dollar's global role once necessary. Today just another option,
and one that looks increasingly less attractive. So absent of
this steady source of global demand, I think what we
(38:55):
could see is the dollars purchasing powerwayne longer term. Look,
this isn't a situation one administration created, and I'm not
sure it's in a situation one administration can fix either.
I think President Trump's doing everything right. He's doing what
he can do. How it plays out, I think, to
some degree is beyond our control at the moment.
Speaker 4 (39:19):
Is and I want you to hang on. I'm gotta
get John Salmon here, but I want you to hang
over and go to break. Is it your assessment. Give
me a thirty second answer on this, then we'll go
to break, I'll get more depth, and we get back.
Is it your assessment right now that the central banks
will continue to purchase gold at the rates the person
as a hedge against the United States.
Speaker 10 (39:43):
Yeah, quite honestly, I don't see it letting up. And
our trip here has confirmed that, Like I said, the
administration of making the right decisions with the tools that
they have in front of us. But I've said it
before and I'll say it again, I think the train
left the state. So yes, I think central bank gold
buying will continue, Philip.
Speaker 4 (40:06):
If you can hang on for one second. And by
the way, I'm so proud given everything that you've learned
while you're down there at the rear reset of how
dead spot on we've been for only four years in
writing the end of the dollar Empire and the way
we wrote it, about debt and deficit and the debt
ceiling and then Rio and the bricks nations and what
it all means central banks buying at record rates. These
(40:28):
finance ministers being you know every day come out of
Stanford Business School, in Chicago Business School, and Harvard Business School.
They have all, they have an HP twelve C and
they can do discount of cash flow right as smart
as anybody working on Wall Street. End of the Dollar Empire.
That's birch Gold dot com slash Bannon seventh free installment,
The Real Reset. We're working on an eighth right now,
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