THE WAR ROOM WITH STEPHEN K. BANNON (EP. 4630)

THE WAR ROOM WITH STEPHEN K. BANNON, JULY 14TH, 2025

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BEN HARNWELL

DAN CALDWELL

JOHN SOLOMON

 

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:02):
This is the primal screen of a dying regime.

Speaker 2 (00:07):
Pray for our enemies because we're going to medieval on
these people.

Speaker 1 (00:12):
There's not got a free shot. All these networks lying
about the people, the people have had.

Speaker 3 (00:17):
A belly full of it.

Speaker 1 (00:18):
I know you don't like hearing that. I know you
try to do everything in the world to stop that,
but you're not going to stop that. It's going to happen.
And where do people like that go to share the
big line?

Speaker 3 (00:27):
Mega media?

Speaker 2 (00:28):
I wish in my soul, I wish that any of
these people had a conscience. Ask yourself, what is my
task and what is my purpose?

Speaker 4 (00:37):
If that answer is to save my country, this country.

Speaker 3 (00:42):
Will be saved. War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K.

Speaker 1 (00:47):
Ban Monday, fourteen July.

Speaker 2 (00:52):
You're of a lord twenty twenty five war and the
rumor of wars are throughout the Imperial capital. The Secretary
General of NATO is in Washington and he will be
meeting this morning supposedly with the President and I states
the commander in chief, and I think that thing's been
bumped back at least an hour tentatively scheduled. I think

(01:16):
to come and start at least show up at ten,
maybe start eleven. So we're gonna we're going to figure
all this out. We've got a crew there. If anything happens,
live will jump right into it. Ben Harnwell, Oh Souer,
I got Dan called Dan, what make us smart? You're
gonna punch out, but make us smart? And what should
we should be thinking about this NATO meeting with the president?

(01:37):
Contextualize it for us? And and what do you see
coming out of it?

Speaker 5 (01:42):
So details really matter here, and I think we need
to be very hesitant about initial reports about what has
agreed to. So to get specific is are the Europeans
just paying for arms we already agree to deliver, something
I mentioned earlier. The second thing is are the Europeans
going to send patriots from their stocks to Ukraine? Which

(02:06):
they've been They've done a little bit, but they've been
hesitant to give more because they want to make Uncle
Sam Uncle sucker and get us to send their stuff.
Is President Trump going to be able to get them
to send their stuff first and then we backfill it
for the normal production process or are we going to
send our stuff to the Europeans immediately to backfill their stocks?

(02:27):
And that creates readiness issues across the board. And the
final thing I would just say is is we got
it more? Long term? Is this defense increased defense spending
in Europe actually gonna happen. There is a very very
long history of people like the Germans, the French, the
British making these promises and then when they see the

(02:47):
United States doubling down in Europe, they eventually don't follow through.
So I think this is going to be a key thing.
Is this additional defense spending actually going to lead to
not just burden sharing, but burden shifting in the long term.
And that's what we need to achieve. And I will
just say and in closing here is that to incentivize

(03:09):
that burden shift, we have to pull back because if
we don't, then the Europeans aren't going to feel like
that that they actually have to fall through. So that's
essential is that President Trump needs to make sure these
these promises are are actually kept.

Speaker 1 (03:24):
But if you look at.

Speaker 2 (03:25):
It, the one way he's the one yeah, I agree, Dan.
The one way he's doing that, I think he's saying,
you're paying for these, We're not giving to these the
Ukrainian you are going to be the middleman you're going
to buy the weapons, so this is going to go
on your account. You you're talking about five percent. I
agree with you, and I think President Trump agrees with you.
He understands that they're wiley and Rutah is a shifty

(03:48):
guy or a slick guy.

Speaker 1 (03:49):
Should say not shift a slick guy.

Speaker 2 (03:52):
And that's why it's even on the offensive weapons.

Speaker 1 (03:56):
They're buying them and they're giving them to Ukraine.

Speaker 2 (03:58):
Correct, that's the currently the deal that at least our
limited knowledge is what's on the table.

Speaker 5 (04:04):
Yes, that's what President Trump has said, that has been
discussed in the past. It's just the question. The big,
the most important detail, I think is how are are
the Europeans going to backfill their stocks?

Speaker 3 (04:18):
Uh?

Speaker 5 (04:19):
And how we're going to do that. Is it going
to be through the regular production process, which could take
years to backfill their stocks or are we going to
send them something from our own stocks right away? And
that latter scenario, I think is where you run into
trouble because you you make the readiness issues you've talked
about a lot a lot worse, specifically in the in
the Endo Pacific.

Speaker 2 (04:41):
No against the CCP, which is keep the main thing,
the main thing is Captain Finew always reminds me it's
like a zen master.

Speaker 1 (04:48):
Every day's hit me with a stick.

Speaker 2 (04:50):
If I, if I, if I, if I lose my
if I lose my concentration and focus what you're supposed
to do. Burkowitz and these other guys, they're great because
the CCP is the threat.

Speaker 1 (05:00):
That's why we can't get sucked into this side event.
And this is the side event. Calwell, where do people
get your particularly on social media.

Speaker 5 (05:09):
On as at at Dan D. Caldwell, that's the best
place to find my work.

Speaker 1 (05:17):
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the Eurasian land mass, which looks like it's upon us.

Speaker 1 (05:45):
It's already started.

Speaker 2 (05:46):
It's two years almost three years old, right or two
and a half years old, and it is it's not.

Speaker 1 (05:53):
It's not.

Speaker 2 (05:54):
It's not winding down. I would argue maybe winding up.
We're gonna go to the White House soon as something happens.
John Solomon up Yet, I'm looking at my producer. We're
trying to get John Solomon up because we're not. This
is not wag the dog, trust me, President Trump. This
is deeper than that. So it's not a wag the
dog moment. And we are going to discuss what's going
on the deep state because the deep State's hands, the

(06:15):
dark hand of the deep state, is behind these decisions
of folks. Ben Harnwell, the New York Times kind of
exposes this of and it's a brilliant piece. Also, Ben,
I think you got some of the comments in Ukraine.
So before we shift off Ukraine, give me your give
me your closing thoughts from your perch in the internal city.

Speaker 3 (06:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (06:37):
Look, so the actual spin on this, on this pre
announced deal, and I flagged the flag that up that
I dine that it was, you know, this kind of
announcement one would expect to come out in the joint
statement after the meeting between Potus and the NATO Secretary
General Mark Ruter. It's been announced it's been pre announced. No,

(07:00):
not have interpretations as to why that is. But it
seemed to me, Steve, that President Trump was very much
wanting to take ownership of this, and he didn't want
it to make it look he didn't want it to
appear like NATO had bounced him into this. He wanted
to be seen leading this initiative. But the interesting thing

(07:20):
in this article in the word aggressive there in that
headline you could see actually comes from Lindsey Graham, which
should tell you all you need to know, approvingly comes
from Lindsey Graham. But the interesting thing about that article
is that it's not just about the Patriot missiles, which
had been announced last week, well several times over over
the last few weeks, but most lately last week as

(07:41):
a defensive measure. Also in this package, President Trump is offering,
according to Axios, offensive weapons. And I say that I
flagged that up. I know that you hit that earlier
with Dan on the show. I flagged that up because
a lot of the feedback I had on the on
GETA was saying, Hahn, well, don't be a panicker, and

(08:02):
you're panicking over nothing. President Trump is just maneuvering here
to give Zelenski some sort of greater defensive capability. This
would definitely know for those who are still living that narrative,
this would very much go beyond that. Look see, can
I pivot now to this article that came out I
think on Saturday. I put it out on get on

(08:23):
Saturday from the New York Times, Janetta who prolonged the war.

Speaker 2 (08:29):
And Ben Ben just hanger for one second, just put
a pinn and we're gonna get right to that.

Speaker 1 (08:35):
But I get John Solomon up.

Speaker 2 (08:37):
So John, we broke with you broke on our show
on Friday. The extended version this situation at the FBI
looking at going after the deep state on a host
of things, going back to the beginning, a crossfire hurricane
before Trump was president, going into the nullification project, in
the Russia hoax, including the perfect the impeachment in the

(08:59):
perfect phone call, all doing maybe potentially the twenty twenty election,
the j six, a whole raft of things. You've got
additional reporting. Can you gut us up to speed on
this and are we close? How much effort did FBI
have to put into this investigation before we actually announce
a special council?

Speaker 7 (09:17):
Sir, Yeah, listen, I think there's enough evidence already there
that they could name a special council as early this week.
It's really just up to Pam bonding. This is an
opportunity for her to change the subject from Epstein to
something that is perhaps more consequential to the American people
long term, and they can clean up Epstein with someone
else perhaps. Secondly, their evidence is all laying out in

(09:40):
public view except for two highly classified pieces of intelligence.
One is in the Inspector General report on Hillary Clinton's
email that reveals that the United States Intelligence community got
new evidence of possible criminality in the Hillary Clinton email scandal,
but did not pursue it just before James Comy cleared
her of all crime, no wrongdoing. That has stayed secret

(10:01):
for eight years. Chuck Grassley, the Senate Judiciary Community Chairman,
has been relentlessly pursuing it. He has President Trump's ear.
I think that's going to get to classified in the
next few days. That will show that there was reason
to pursue Hillary Clinton, not clear her, and not pursue
Donald Trump. They should have not ever investigated him for
Russia collusion. The second piece of classified evidence that could

(10:23):
be released is referred to by John Durham as the
Clinton Plan intelligence. It's an intercept five days before the
FBI opened up on Crossfire Hurricane that Hillary Clinton was
about to concoct a Russian scandal and try to pretend
that Vladimir Putin was helping Donald Trump win the election.

(10:45):
That means that the CIA, the FBI, and President Obama
himself personally was aware that what Hillary Clinton was doing
was a ruse, a political dirty trick, and still James
Comey's FBI opened up on the information.

Speaker 3 (10:58):
If those two.

Speaker 7 (10:58):
Pieces of evidence get the classified so grand jurors can
see it, Pam Bondi needs a special prosecutor. We could
be rolling by the end of this week.

Speaker 1 (11:09):
End of this week.

Speaker 2 (11:10):
Part of this because you had Durham, you had all this,
you reported extensively. Part of this is not going to
be just what they tried to do to President Trump,
But isn't a big part of this also going to
be the cover up Because you had Durham, you had people.
But it looks like obviously now information was specifically buried.
Either people lied persia themselves or buried information because this

(11:32):
stuff should have come out.

Speaker 1 (11:34):
I mean, this is the whole purpose of Durham and
these other things.

Speaker 2 (11:36):
This should have come out and even these House investigations,
this should have come out years ago.

Speaker 1 (11:40):
Correct.

Speaker 7 (11:41):
Yeah, listen, look at the China interference in the twenty
twenty election, that allegation that was buried into just a
few weeks ago. Remember cash Pttel said, when you got
in there, he found this room full of documents that
were never released to Congress, mostly on Russia Gate. That
is a whole neutron. So the cover up, as it
often is, can be a part of the scandal, and

(12:01):
that could be a part of the ongoing conspiracy. As
the FBI looks at this, they're looking at it as
one grand conspiracy, that a constant pattern of clearing Democrats
of criminal wrongdoing in the face of criminal right.

Speaker 2 (12:12):
To John or Biden, we got to go to the
live shot and then go to live shot in the
in the Oval markets.

Speaker 4 (12:21):
The head of NATO, Mark Ruta, Secretary General of NATO,
highly respected by everybody that knows them, but in particular
the European countries. At Greg reliance and I am and
it's done a fantastic job, and we had a tremendous meeting.
I guess it's about a month now, a month ago,
and I think Mark will tell you that it was

(12:44):
really perhaps more important the date of November fifth, that
was the election day. Maybe that was the most important,
because we've made tremendous progress together. And one of the
reasons that you're here today is to hear that we
are very unhappy.

Speaker 3 (12:58):
I am with the Russia.

Speaker 4 (13:00):
Yeah, but we'll discuss that maybe a different day. But
we're very very unhappy with them, and we're gonna be
uh doing very severe tariffs if we don't have a
deal in fifty days. Uh tariffs at about a hundred percent.
You'd call them secondary tariffs. You know what that means.
But today we're going to talk about something else. And

(13:22):
as you know, we've uh spent three hundred and fifty
billion dollars approximately on this war with Russia and Ukraine
and would like to see it end.

Speaker 3 (13:32):
It wasn't my war, it was Biden's war.

Speaker 4 (13:34):
It's not my war. I'm trying to get you out
of it, and we wanna see it end. And I'm
disappointed in President Putin because I thought we would have
had a deal two months ago, but it doesn't.

Speaker 3 (13:46):
Seem to get there.

Speaker 4 (13:48):
So based on that, we're gonna be doing secondary tariffs
if we don't have a deal in fifty days. It's
very simple, and they'll be at a hundred percent. And
that's the way it is. That can be more simple,
it's just.

Speaker 3 (13:59):
The way it is.

Speaker 4 (13:59):
I help, we don't have to do it, but regardless,
we are going to be. We make the greatest military
equipment in the world, whether it's missiles. You saw that
recently in around the ware. Those planes are flewing. They
hit every single fourteen bombs, hit every target. Then you
had the helicopters shoot a total of thirty bombs, thirty missiles,

(14:24):
and they hit every single markers at right, every single piece,
every single target.

Speaker 3 (14:30):
And it was.

Speaker 4 (14:32):
I guess on a on a scale of zero to ten,
they say it was about a fifteen.

Speaker 3 (14:36):
That's how successful it was.

Speaker 4 (14:38):
That's how leith And it was a word they like
to use nowadays, but it was. It was an amazing,
well organized attack that people in.

Speaker 3 (14:49):
This country wanted to do for twenty four years.

Speaker 4 (14:51):
You know, when we hit the pilots in last week,
they were saying, sir, we've been practicing this for twenty
four years, meaning people not them, but other people a
little older now. But they too, and you are the
one that let us do it. But we've been practicing
it three to four times a year for twenty two
to twenty four years because they always knew they had

(15:13):
it stopped around from doing what they were doing, which
is trying to come up with a nuclear weapon, a
nuclear bomb.

Speaker 3 (15:22):
And we did it very successfully.

Speaker 4 (15:25):
And we make the best equipment, the best missiles, the
best of everything. The European nations know that. And we've
made a deal today and I'm gonna have Mark speak
about it, but we've made a deal today where we
are going to be sending them weapons and they're going
to be paying for them. The United States will not

(15:46):
be having any payment made. We are not buying it,
but we will manufacture it and they're going to be
paying for it. Our last meeting of a month ago
was very successful in that they agreed to five percent
more than a trillion dollars a year. So they have
a lot of money. And these are wealthy nations. They
have a lot of money and they want to do it.

(16:06):
They feel very strongly about it, and we feel strongly
about it too. We're we're in for a lot of
money and we just we don't want to do anymore
we can, but we make the best and we're gonna
be sending the best to NATO, and in some cases too,
maybe at mark suggestion, if we go to Germany where
they're going to send early on missiles and they'll be

(16:27):
replaced and NATO's gonna take care of it. It's gonna
be coordinated by NATO, and they're going to work very
much with Matt Whitaker, who's right here, is a great ambassador,
and Matt's gonna be coordinator. You better do a good
job matter I will, but Matt's gonna coordinate. He's a
very talented guy. He's going to coordinate everything.

Speaker 8 (16:46):
So in a.

Speaker 4 (16:46):
Nutshell, we're going to make top of the line weapons
and they'll be sent to NATO. NATO mates choose to
have certain of them sent to other countries where we
can get a little additional speed, where the country will
release something and be mostly in the form of a replacement.
And i'd like to have Mark and again just a
highly respected, pretty young guy, pretty young guy for having

(17:11):
had the career that he's had, because he had he
had an amazing career before going to NATO.

Speaker 3 (17:16):
So we spent a lot of time together over the
last couple of months.

Speaker 9 (17:21):
And if you could say a few words, absolutely, no, no,
mister pleasant, this is really big.

Speaker 3 (17:27):
This is really big. You called me on Thursday that you.

Speaker 9 (17:30):
Have taken a decision, and a decision is that you
want to brain what it needs to have to maintain
to be able to defend itself against Russia, but you
want your beans to pay for it, which is totally logical.
And this is building on the tremendous success of the
Natal Summit, the five percent, but also the decision to

(17:53):
keep Ukraine strong and the decision to increase our defense
industial production. So based on debt that was you were
stepping up. This is again Europeans stepping up. So I've
been in contact with many countries. I can tell you
that at this moment Germany massively, but also Finland and
Denmark and Sweden and Norwating Kingdom, Benevolence, Canada. They all

(18:15):
want to be part of this. And this is only
the first wave.

Speaker 3 (18:18):
There will be more.

Speaker 9 (18:19):
So what we will do is work through the NATAL
systems to make sure that we know what Ukrainians need
so if we can make packages. Of course, in a
way we discussed it this morning, the speed hackset at
the Pentagon in a way that, of course the US
will it's stock bottles necessary to defend this country, that's
absolutely clear, But it will.

Speaker 3 (18:38):
Mean that Ukraine can gets his hands on really.

Speaker 9 (18:42):
Massive numbers of military equipment, both for air defense but
also missiles, ammunition.

Speaker 3 (18:49):
Et cetera, et cetera.

Speaker 9 (18:50):
So if I was Vladimir put In today and are
you speaking about what you were planning to do it
fifty days and these announcements, I would reconsider whether I
should not to take negotiations about Ukraine more seriously than
I was doing at the moment. If I was allowing
to be putting. But when in Ukraine, I think this
is really great news for that it's right he wants
to thank you for that, but it means your pa
is paying for it. And again I mentioned all these countries,

(19:13):
we will deal with debt and executive a shossette. It
might also mean that the countries will move equipment fast
into Ukraine and then the US later texiting it.

Speaker 3 (19:25):
Because speech is off the essence. You so think you
very important.

Speaker 4 (19:29):
He's made a great job. That's a really great job.
We've been very successful in settling wars. You have India, Pakistan,
you have Rwanda and the Congo that was going.

Speaker 3 (19:40):
On for thirty years.

Speaker 4 (19:41):
India, by the way, in Pakistan would have been a
nuclear war within another week the way that was going,
that was going very badly. We did that through trade.
I said, we're not going to talk to you about
trade unless you get this thing settled. And they did
and they were both great, great leaders, and they were great.
But Rwanda and the Congo that was going on for
thirty years and at least seven million people killed and

(20:05):
killed with a lot of pretty rough weapons like machetes,
heads chopped off, going on for many years. You couldn't
even get near the countries. Nobody wanted to get near.
It so frightening. And we got that one, so Serbia
Kosovo got That's all that was gonna be one that

(20:26):
was going to happen. And again that was something I used.
I used straight for a lot of things, but it's
great for settling wars. That was really very important. We're
working marketers, working very hard with everybody here on the strip,
the Gaza Strip. I called the Gaza Strip one of
the worst real estate deals ever made. They gave up

(20:47):
the ocean front property one of the worst deals ever made.

Speaker 3 (20:50):
But it was supposed to bring peace and it didn't
bring peace. That brought the opposite. But we're doing pretty
well on Gazza.

Speaker 4 (20:57):
Steve Woodcoff is here and I think we could have
something fairly soon to talk about. And we solved another
one one that we just seem to have Armenia and Azure.
By jan it looks like that's going to come to
a conclusion, successful conclusion. We worked on Egypt with our

(21:20):
next door neighbor, who it's a good neighbor, they're friends
of mine. But they happened to build a dam which
closed up water going into a thing called the Nile.
I think if I'm Egypt, I want to have water
in the Nile. And we're working on that one. It's
a problem, but it's going to get solved. They built

(21:41):
one of the biggest dams in the world a little
bit outside of Egypt.

Speaker 3 (21:45):
You know about that. You've been hearing about that one.
I think the United States funded the dam.

Speaker 4 (21:49):
I don't know why they didn't solve the problem before
they built the dam, but it's nice when the Nile
River has water. They you know, it's a very important
source of income in life. It's the life of Egypt,
and to take that away is pretty incredible. But we
think we're gonna have that solved very quickly, so we
do good.

Speaker 3 (22:08):
The only one we haven't been able to get to
yet is Russia.

Speaker 4 (22:12):
I'm not happy, and I will tell you that Ukraine
wants to do something again. It's a war that should
have never started. If I were president, it never would
have happened. I used to speak to President Putting about
it a lot. It was the apple of his eye.

Speaker 3 (22:26):
But once I saw what was going on, I said,
you know, they didn't have a war here.

Speaker 4 (22:30):
I was outside, lecture was rigged. I was outside looking in,
and I said, you know, that thing's gonna be a war.
Couldn't believe because what Biden said was the exact opposite
of what should have been said. And it started, and
it's a real mess. We're losing I guess they're losing
five or six thousand people. There's actually now more. I

(22:51):
used to I was saying five thousand. Day's actually more
now mostly soldiers, but a lot of people in cities
and towns that are getting blown up to horrible war
and it should be stopped.

Speaker 3 (23:02):
And so if it's not done.

Speaker 4 (23:03):
If we don't have an agreement in fifty days, that's
what we're doing secondary tariffs, and they're biting, and I
hope we don't get to the point where we do.

Speaker 3 (23:13):
But I've been hearing so much talk.

Speaker 4 (23:15):
It's all talk, it's all talk, and then missiles go
in to Kiev and kill sixty people.

Speaker 3 (23:24):
It's gotta stop. It's got to stop. But the purpose
of this is to say that there's a very big
deal with made.

Speaker 4 (23:30):
This is billions of dollars worth of military equipment is
going to be purchased from the United States, going to NATO, etc.
And that's gonna be quickly distributed to the battlefield. Ukraine
will take it up. And you know, say what you
want about Ukraine. When the war started, they had no chance.

(23:51):
And they still would have had no chance if the equipment.
They had the best equipment, because we do make the
best planes and missiles, and we make the best military
equipment in the world by far. We have new things
coming out that are beyond belief. And I'm very excited
about the Golden Dome. It's going to give us very

(24:11):
strong protection. We've already started then, but they had courage
because somebody has to use that equipment. And they fought
with tremendous courage, and they continue to fight with tremendous courage,
but they don't have their losing on equipment. And Russia's
really taken a very positive, very very strong I mean

(24:34):
what they've done the last couple of.

Speaker 9 (24:35):
Weeks with military redecences and what they're doing hudle drones today,
missiles bombing cities. This is not because of military goals.
It is just creating panic, hitting at their sleeves, hitting towns.
It's really terrible and it's just meaning all lot of
people lose their lives.

Speaker 3 (24:53):
But also the infrastructure whole city is being.

Speaker 4 (24:56):
They're wiping out the electric It's going to take years
to rebuild it. That's going to be the next problem,
but that's going to take a long time. Cities, many
of the cities are knocked down to the ground. Many
of the people have left, but many of state I
don't know they actually stay. Most of stayed. Actually, it's
incredible that they stay in knowing that a missile could

(25:19):
be hitting your apartment house and your apartment house that
you're sitting in could collapse on top of you.

Speaker 3 (25:24):
And they do very heavy construction. They don't use rebard,
they do very thick concrete construction.

Speaker 4 (25:30):
Those are heavy buildings, big buildings and heavy buildings, and
they collapse like like they're made out of paper. It's
unbelievable to see this happening with people, so many people
who being killed. So we think we're going to make progress,
and we hope we're going to make progress. In the meantime,
we're going to get you good service on what you need.
And then we really became friendly with nater this last meeting.

(25:51):
You know, we went from two percent to five percent,
which everyone said was not even a possibility. They weren't
paying two percent, many of them were paying much less
than to But even.

Speaker 9 (26:00):
Those since you became president all committed to the two
percent before sun It and now collectively to committed to
the five percent.

Speaker 3 (26:06):
That's right.

Speaker 4 (26:07):
They did, and they've been very good, and I think
I made a lot of friends over there. We have
a couple of days of very intensive.

Speaker 3 (26:13):
Talks, and they're great people.

Speaker 4 (26:15):
They're leaders of countries, leaders of countries, many of them
great countries, some of them smaller countries. But for the
most part, that's some very solid, strong countries and very successful.

Speaker 3 (26:28):
Some of them are among the most successful countries in
the world. So that's the story.

Speaker 4 (26:33):
We hope that's going to have an impact on Vladimir Putin,
and we hope it's going to have an impact on
Ukraine also. We want to make sure that Ukraine does
what they have to do. All of a sudden, they
may feel embolded and maybe they don't want.

Speaker 3 (26:47):
You know, there's a very difficult situation Ukraine. Once, I
think so, and they will stay committed for that. There's
no doubt they want Truitionians have to become.

Speaker 4 (26:57):
They have to continue to want of them will make
all of a sudden, We'll make you. I feel confident
that they will do what has to be done. Plus,
we have certain parameters that both sides know, and we
already know what should be done. So I think that's
gonna be Uh, it's going to be very strong. We
want everlasting piece. Any questions for this, Yes, thank you,

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was President.

Speaker 10 (27:21):
What was the tipping point for you in making this decision?
Was it a conversation with President Putin? Was a piece
of intelligence? And why are you giving fifty more days?

Speaker 3 (27:29):
I think, well, I think it's a very short period
of time. I think they'll forget.

Speaker 4 (27:33):
I've just really been involved in this not very long
and it wasn't initial focus. This is again, this is
a Biden war. This is a Democrat were not a
Republican or Trump war. This is a war that would
have never happened. It shouldn't have happened. A lot of
people being killed. When the when the final numbers come in,
you're going to see a lot more people are being

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killed in this war than you think. Then you've been
writing about it's a very deadly war.

Speaker 3 (28:00):
They're all bad, but this is a very deadly war.
Or the numbers are gonna be far greater.

Speaker 4 (28:04):
When an apartment house comes down and they say two
people were slightly injured, No, many people were killed, and
those numbers will be at some point accurately reported.

Speaker 3 (28:15):
So far, then it's it's a deadly war. I think
that you're just gonna see very I think you're gonna
see strong movement. I hope, So, I hope. So what
about you know, the secondary tariffs are very very powerful.

Speaker 10 (28:29):
What about the tariffs that the Republicans in the House
and the Senate have ready, those were five hundred percent.
Why are you doing one hundred percent?

Speaker 4 (28:36):
Well, the Republicans are moving very strongly in the Senate,
giving us.

Speaker 3 (28:41):
Total control of it. But I'm not sure we need it.

Speaker 4 (28:45):
But it's certainly good that they're doing it, and Lindsey
Graham's working hard, the whole, Rich Johnathan, all of them,
they're all working hard, and and they're in coordination with
Mike Johnson, Speaker in the House, and I think they are.
They've actually crafted a pretty good piece of legislation is
probably going to pass very easily, and that includes Democrats.

(29:08):
And there are some little tweaks, but I don't want
to say I don't need it, because I don't want
them to waste that time. It could be very useful.
We'll have to see. But we can do We can
do secondary we're probably talking about one hundred percent or
something like that.

Speaker 3 (29:23):
We can do secondary.

Speaker 4 (29:24):
We can do secondary tariffs without the Senate, without the House.
But what they're crafting also could be very good.

Speaker 10 (29:32):
So are you suggesting then that the Congress should move
forward with those sanctions the five hundred percent, and that
your one hundred will be a separate, additional package.

Speaker 4 (29:40):
Yeah, I mean the five hundred is, you know, sort
of meaningless after a while, because at a certain point.

Speaker 3 (29:46):
It doesn't matter.

Speaker 4 (29:47):
It's not going to be you know, it's one hundred,
one hundred is going to serve the same function.

Speaker 3 (29:51):
But yeah, I have it at one hundred percent. They
may have it. I don't know what they're gonna end
up with. They may have it at one hundred two,
they may have it at five hundred.

Speaker 4 (30:01):
But they're doing some good work in the House, and
I think in the House and the Senate, and as
you know, they're coordinated and they can have it done quickly.

Speaker 3 (30:09):
They said they'll have it as quickly as I needed.
So we'll see.

Speaker 4 (30:12):
We're talking to him. In fact, John Thune's coming over
later on to talk. Yeah, he's gonna he's gonna come over.

Speaker 11 (30:20):
Is it your review that of Vladimir Putin mischaracterized his
dedication to Is it your view that Vladimir Putin missed
miss uh, misguided, miss did not clarify, did not clarify
his intention to a peace deal? And what what happens
now in the next phase is there.

Speaker 3 (30:39):
I mean, we're gonna know for a period of time,
maybe you'll start negotiating.

Speaker 4 (30:44):
And I think we felt I felt about you, Mark,
but I felt that we had a deal about four times,
and here we are still talking about.

Speaker 3 (30:53):
It, and he didn't sense serious people to the negotiations.
So I remember that you were.

Speaker 9 (30:59):
Able with the Marco Rubio and mis Stive Viskov to
get the stores going in Istanbul. I remember I was
myself in Tookia for nature business in May, and we
did put pressure on the Ukrainians to send the city
your team into Istanbul, and they did it. But then
the Russians came up with this historian explaining history of
Russia since twelve fifty.

Speaker 3 (31:21):
We thought, and I thought, we should have a deal
done a long time ago. But it just keeps going
on and on and on, and every night people are dying,
a lot of people.

Speaker 4 (31:34):
A lot of Russian soldiers are dying, by the way,
and a lot of Ukrainians soldiers, but a lot of
Russian soldiers.

Speaker 3 (31:40):
A one hundred thousand Rusian soldiers since first of.

Speaker 9 (31:43):
January, since January, one hundred thousand Russian soldiers death since January.
So did anybody in Moscow is listening to this again?
A hundred thousands deaths Russians since January. This is what
presents put it is doing at the moment.

Speaker 2 (31:57):
Yeah, will these be patron missiles specifically or a patriot
batteries that you're planning.

Speaker 4 (32:02):
And when you winch everything patriots, it's all of it's
a full complement with the batteries.

Speaker 3 (32:08):
And what do you expect them to arrive in New Criser.

Speaker 4 (32:11):
Well, we're gonna have some come very soon, within days actually,
because a couple of the countries that have patriots are
gonna swap over and we'll replace the patriots where the
ones they have and Matt will coordinate with NATO. But
so it's gonna be if they're gonna start arriving very
So this this not.

Speaker 3 (32:28):
A newsstoring us.

Speaker 9 (32:30):
The German Defense Minister is visiting the Texas uh Seconic
defense and will discuss Also, I think this whole patios
thing nor Bays involved, so desil the patriots, But this
whole deal is also about missiles or ammunition sorts of
broader n patriots.

Speaker 4 (32:45):
We have one country that has seventeen patriots getting ready
to be shipped. They're not gonna need them for them,
so we're gonna work a deal where the seventeen will
go or a big portion of the seventeen will go
to the worst.

Speaker 3 (32:58):
Setting I mean being.

Speaker 12 (33:03):
Please, could this transaction with NATO be viewed as a
step towards a chieving piece, letting putin know that now
Lindsay has a little bit more powerful tools in his
tool chats, and maybe that brings him.

Speaker 3 (33:15):
To the table to a chief piece.

Speaker 4 (33:17):
I know that you wanted to do that, right, that's
what we've been saying. I think you might have expressed
it better if you want to. I'm just fun exactly.
It was a nice summary, you might.

Speaker 3 (33:27):
I think he's done better than this. He's a very
good guy. I can tell you that. But uh no,
it's well well said. Yeah, I think this is a
chance at getting peace or it's just going to be
the same thing. I have to tell you. Europe has
a lot of spirit for this war. A lot of people.
You know, when I first got involved, I really didn't

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think they did.

Speaker 1 (33:51):
But they do.

Speaker 4 (33:52):
And I saw that a month ago, and then you
were there, most of you, many of you were there.
The level of the Spree de Corps spirit that they
have is amazing. They really think it's a very very
important thing to do, or they wouldn't be doing. Look,
they're agreeing to just you know, they're paying for everything
we're not paying anywhere. We have an ocean separating us.

(34:14):
They said, we have a problem. We make the best stuff,
but we can't keep doing this. And Biden should have
done this years ago. He should have done it from
the beginning, but he didn't. He didn't know he was there.
This guy, what What a horrible job they did for
this country. And I just hope between the border and
this and so many other inflation. What a horrible administration,

(34:37):
the worst administration in history in my opinion.

Speaker 3 (34:39):
That's not my opinion. I think it's everybody's opinion.

Speaker 4 (34:42):
But this is something that shouldn't have happened, and we're
gonna see if we can end it. I do want
to make one statement again.

Speaker 3 (34:50):
I said it before. This is not Trump's war. We're
here to try and get it.

Speaker 4 (34:55):
Finished and settled and whatever, because nobody wins with I said,
this is a loser from every standpoint.

Speaker 3 (35:03):
This was Biden and this was other people, and it's
a very sad, it's very sad situation. This gentleman is
doing a great job.

Speaker 4 (35:12):
He's gonna I think he's gonna get it, and Matt
and everybody else that's.

Speaker 3 (35:16):
Working on it, I think you'll get this thing over with.

Speaker 10 (35:18):
Hop You've praised European countries today, standing up for Ukraine
as being strong.

Speaker 11 (35:25):
Will you allow them to continue to negotiate tariff's lower
than thirty percent before August first?

Speaker 3 (35:30):
Or is the deal said at this What does that mean?

Speaker 4 (35:32):
You mean you're talking about the trade. You're back on tariffs.
They're on a more friendly tariff, right, a little bit
more friendly traff.

Speaker 3 (35:42):
No, we're going to be talking to people we have,
you know, I wanted to show this one. They were
talking about, well, when's he going to make the deal?
The deals are already made. The letters are the deals,
The deals are made. There are no deals to make.
They would like to do a different kind of a dealer,
and we're always open to talk. We are open to talk.
Concluding to your the fact they're coming over, they'd like

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to talk about.

Speaker 10 (36:03):
Especially is there any concern about the US stockpiles. There
was a pause in delivery of weaponry to Ukraine in
order to evaluate apparently the US stockpiles.

Speaker 3 (36:14):
What came out of that valuation? I mean, this was
a very big what we're talking about today is a
very very big day.

Speaker 8 (36:23):
And what Pete was.

Speaker 4 (36:25):
Doing, and me too, I knew what Pete was doing
was evaluation because we knew this was going.

Speaker 3 (36:30):
To happen, and now we actually announced that they voted
on it. It's all been done, so obviously that has
a big impact on you know.

Speaker 4 (36:40):
When you say pause, Obviously you're not going to be
doing things if you don't know what's going to happen here.
But we were pretty sure this was going to happen,
so we did a little bit of a pause. But
this is a very big this is a very big
event today. This is something better.

Speaker 3 (36:54):
Further, how far are you willing to go? In response?
In what how far are you willing to go? Putting
word to escalate, send more bonds in the coming days,
and asking me a question like that, how far I
want to get the war settled?

Speaker 4 (37:07):
They're not Americans that are dying in it, and you know,
I have a problem and JD has a problem.

Speaker 3 (37:12):
It's a sense that he's had for a long time.

Speaker 4 (37:15):
They're not Americans dying, but there are a lot of
people dying and on something that should be able to
be settled. And we all agree with that, this group
of people that you know, we want to defend our country.
But you know, ultimately having a strong Europe is a
very good thing. It's a very good thing.

Speaker 3 (37:32):
So I'm okay with that.

Speaker 13 (37:34):
Yeah, please V there's a ceiling on what the Europeans
are willing to pay for, and it sounds like, well,
are you ruling out the US paying for some from
additional weapons through draw to authority.

Speaker 9 (37:45):
Because basically, what's the business seeing that he's reeling of course,
taking consideration what the US needs itself. So it's not
that you're going to have a shopping list and you
can order whatever you want, because the US has to
make sure that the US keeps his hands on what
the US needs so to keep the whole world safe.

Speaker 3 (38:01):
Because in the end, you are the police agent of
the whole world. You're the most powerful national on earth,
most powerful military on earth.

Speaker 9 (38:07):
But given that the ess signed tool indeed massively supplied
you create, which what is necessary through NATO, you are
beings one hundred percent paying for that. And what we
have been doing over the last couple of days is
talking with countries and just mentioned to once we're in
the first Rave immediately said we want to chipping.

Speaker 3 (38:25):
And then you're really talking about big numbers.

Speaker 9 (38:27):
Take Germany visiting two days, they're really talking about big numbers.

Speaker 4 (38:34):
I will say that I spoke with Germany, spoke with
most of the larger countries, and they are really enthusiastic
about this.

Speaker 3 (38:43):
They want to and you know they're willing to go
very far. I will tell you, you know, ask me
your question, how far would I go? They want to
go very far. They don't want this to happen.

Speaker 4 (38:53):
That's why I think from Putin's standpoint, it would really
be good. He gets the country's economy is doing very poorly. Yes,
he's got to get his economy back. He's got to
save his economy. He could save his country in his sense,
but the economy can destroy destroyed a lot of countries
over the years. He wants to get that economy back.
And you know, he's got a great country for trading.
And I think if they could use the assets instead

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of war. Uh, he's got some tremendous potential. That's what
I would say.

Speaker 3 (39:18):
How did you deliver this? Putinser said? How did you
tell Putin this was coming?

Speaker 13 (39:25):
Uh?

Speaker 4 (39:25):
I speak to him a lot about getting this thing done,
and I always hang up and say, well, that was
a nice phone goal. And then missiles its launched into Kiev.
As some other city, and I said, it's strange. And
after that happens three or four times, you say the
talk doesn't mean anything. My conversations with him are always

(39:45):
very pleasant. They say he's not very lovely conversation, and
then the missiles go off. That night, I go home,
I tell the first lady and I spoke of Vladimir today.

Speaker 14 (39:55):
We had a wonderful conversation. She said, oh really, Uh,
another city was just hit. So it's like, yeah, look
he's uh. I don't want to say he's an assassin,
but he's a tough guy. It's been proven over the years.
He's fooled a lot of people. He fooled Bush, he
fooled a lot of people. He fulled Clinton, Bush, Obama,

(40:17):
Biden didn't for me. But what I do say is
that at a certain point, you know, ultimately talked to us.

Speaker 2 (40:41):
Okay, it's frozen from the White House. We're gonna go
back to the Oval Office, Dariel. Let's go right back
to it. We get another feed, go and jump back in.

Speaker 3 (40:48):
What's happened so and fifty days. Yeah, he'll be hitting
very hard.

Speaker 4 (40:53):
I mean, look, I hope he I hope he's going
to do it. He knows the deal, he knows what
a fair deal is.

Speaker 3 (41:02):
If there is such a thing as a fair deal,
they can know there's no winners here. This is a loser.
Is a loser.

Speaker 4 (41:08):
And I dealt with him from the beginning, and it
wouldn't have happened, but I will say it was Ukraine
was the apple of his eye.

Speaker 3 (41:15):
We talked about it. It was the apple of his eye,
but it wasn't gonna happen. And he understood that it
wasn't gonna happen.

Speaker 4 (41:22):
And then I noticed after I was out, I noticed
soldiers forming at the border, and then I heard horribly
stupid things being said from the other side, and I said.

Speaker 3 (41:33):
They're really uh handling it, very very wrong. It's a shame.

Speaker 9 (41:37):
Yeah, I can some thing, and it is about resident Trump,
because if you can offer some January, which else the
sebby grand your first phone call was puoting. I think
you did exactly what I hope you will do that
just waking the death book, starting the conversation. Because you
don't have to test him. I know putin very well
from the days when I was Prime Minister, and that
months you have to testing. And you did this and
you really gave him a chance to be serious, to

(41:59):
get to the table, to start negotiations. Steve Frithgrolf Marker,
who we do. We will try to help you, but
you've now come to a point where you say, well.

Speaker 3 (42:06):
Hey, we actually go We had probably four times a deal. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (42:10):
I mean you were called and we said, yeah, this
looks good, and then the deal wouldn't have because bombs
would be thrown out that night, and you'd say, we're
not making any deals.

Speaker 9 (42:19):
It was like, but you're making the diffic was crucial
because you had to start that process and you were
the only abune who was able to do that.

Speaker 3 (42:26):
I think we'll get it done.

Speaker 10 (42:27):
Do you think he's reasonable enough to negotiate.

Speaker 2 (42:30):
And to get it done?

Speaker 3 (42:31):
I think, look, he uh. This is a very powerful situation.

Speaker 4 (42:36):
You have very wealthy conscious buying the best equipment in
the world, and we have the best equipment in the world.
We make equipment like no other. You know, our submarines
with nuclear submarines is so powerful, their most powerful weapon
ever built.

Speaker 3 (42:54):
And we have the best in the world.

Speaker 4 (42:56):
By the twenty years behind twenty five years behind us.
We have the greatest equipment to anywhere in the world.
I just hope we don't have to use it. Yeah,
plase you think.

Speaker 3 (43:05):
It as a resident.

Speaker 13 (43:07):
On a separate topic here, President Biden, of all people,
spoke to the New York Times over the weekend. He
did not speak to them on the record during his
time in office at all, but he spoke to them recently,
and he defended his use of the auto pen and
said that he signed off on every decision. But at
the same time, the Times reports that he did not
individually approve each name for the categorical parties that applied

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to large numbers of people.

Speaker 3 (43:33):
What are yours your take on that? And he rea
relations from well, I mean you're talking about the autopen.

Speaker 4 (43:38):
Look, the autopen I think is maybe one of the
biggest scandals that we've had in fifty to our hundred years.
This is a tremendous scandal. And I know the people
on the other side of the desk at Resolute desk.
Unfortunately he used it before me. But you know, we
have our choice of seven desks. You're all beautiful, but

(44:00):
I chose the Resolute and so did he, unfortunately. But
the people on the other side of the Resolute desk,
I know them. Lisa the whole group.

Speaker 3 (44:12):
And they're no good. There's sick people. And I guarantee
he knew nothing about what he was signing. I guarantee it.

Speaker 4 (44:22):
So they're gonna figure it out, and uh, we'll see
what happens. But to me, the autopen, you know, you
elected president. You know what the autopen is supposed to
sign thousands of letters from young people that write I
get we get thousands of letters a week.

Speaker 3 (44:37):
Says you write thousands, I mean tens of thousands. Sometimes
I look at a room.

Speaker 4 (44:42):
There's a room where we have many, many people working,
responding and sending letters back.

Speaker 3 (44:48):
That's what an autopen's supposed to be.

Speaker 4 (44:50):
To write to a young seven year old boy that
writes to the president and he wants to be president
someday and he loves America.

Speaker 3 (44:58):
That's what the Autopen's supposed to be.

Speaker 4 (45:00):
It's not supposed to be for signing major legislation and
all the things.

Speaker 3 (45:05):
No, the outopen, and I doubt he knew. I doubt.

Speaker 4 (45:08):
I doubt they even spoke to him about it. I
think they had. It's called a free wheeling autopen. Like
Biden was never for open borders. Biden was never for
transgender for everyone. So I don't think he. I think
the radical left people that took they took over the
White House, and if I didn't win, our country was finished.

Speaker 3 (45:30):
You know, when I was in and I said this
a couple of times, I opened, I'll bore you with it.

Speaker 4 (45:33):
But when I was in Saudi Arabia, I was in Quitar,
I was in UAE, And then I met with all
of your leaders, including you, a great leader. He's now
the leader of many countries. Not you, but but I
met with a lot of leaders over the last two
months in the Middle East and all the all of

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the NATO countries, and I will tell you they had
one common phrase. They thought America was dead one year ago,
and today they say, and they all say it, and
I hope you'll back me up in this, but they
say now it's the hottest country anywhere in the world.

Speaker 3 (46:13):
And is Look at our numbers. Look at the numbers
we made. You see, we made twenty five billion last month.

Speaker 4 (46:18):
We didn't make that for years. The tariffs are kicking
in the economy is very strong, even though we have
a fed person who's terrible. He doesn't know what Elly's doing.

Speaker 3 (46:27):
But that's all right.

Speaker 4 (46:28):
We blow through interest, right, so we're doing so well
we blow through, it'd be nice because people would be
able to buy housing a lot easier. But think of it,
we thought your country was dead and they were dealing
with China because.

Speaker 3 (46:42):
They really they were really going to China, but not anymore.

Speaker 4 (46:45):
But we thought your country was dead, and now you
have the hottest country anywhere in the world.

Speaker 3 (46:51):
So we've done a really good job. And it's an
honor to have this man.

Speaker 4 (46:55):
This man is a star, and he's going to be
dealing with another one of my jars, Matt, and you're
gonna do a great job.

Speaker 3 (47:01):
Matt Whitaker.

Speaker 8 (47:02):
Okay, thank you very much, everybody, thank you.

Speaker 3 (47:24):
Good question at the end.

Speaker 1 (47:25):
Okay, we got Ben Horner. I think we'll probably get
Mike Ben's this afternoon.

Speaker 2 (47:30):
Then the uh pretty blunt, and I know the America first,
Our America first audiences, I can tell by the chat,
are a little bit in shock.

Speaker 1 (47:45):
Ben Harnwell, a couple of things.

Speaker 2 (47:46):
Number One, it's both now it's from a part of
it's from a standoff basis, and that is the excratory
nature of the military equipment. He is pretty adamant we're
not providing this, We're not gonna run up on debt.

Speaker 1 (48:00):
We're selling this.

Speaker 2 (48:01):
We're selling this to NATO, to the NATO allies. Route
seem and not ambivalent. I didn't exactly get a hey, yeah,
these countries are buying this, and this is what they're paying.
But the President is pretty adamant. We're not supplying particularly
offensive weaponry and even defensive We're not giving them anything.

Speaker 1 (48:23):
This is being bought by NATO.

Speaker 2 (48:26):
But he did say to start off with, is the
sanctions in secondary sanctions and secondary sanctions are direct economic warfare.
I'm a big believer in sanctions, and I think they work,
and they can work, they can be very strong. This
is the way I think we bring the Persians. If
you want regime change, you want the people to regime

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change come from the people. Do it with sanctions and
secondary sanctions and cutting off their capital. But he announced
in fifty days there'll be I think additional tariffs on Russia.
Although we don't buy we don't purchase a lot from Russia.
The EU does because of the natural gas. But he
said secondary sanctions, secondary sanctions, we get any trading part

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that would be the Chinese communist parties.

Speaker 1 (49:12):
We got to work through this after the show.

Speaker 2 (49:14):
Is he saying he's gonna put one hundred percent tariff
on the CCP who trade for them.

Speaker 1 (49:18):
That's all gonna be worked out.

Speaker 3 (49:20):
He did.

Speaker 2 (49:21):
President Trump did sound like all of a sudden, he
kept saying, this is not Trump's ward, this is not
Trump's war. He's absolutely correct. This is one of the
things we've on the show said over and over again,
this is not Trump's ward. That's why you got to
either get in there trying to make a deal. If
you can't make a deal, just cut bait. Because if
you go down this path, you may say it's not

(49:41):
Trump's war and it hasn't been up till down, but
you get into the sense of even if you're selling them,
you know, if a Russian mother and father to know
that their kid was killing a battlefield with an American
with American weaponryes are going to miss the nuance that
NATO bought it and the Americans didn't give it. If
a offensive, if offensive missiles strike the suburbs of Moscow

(50:05):
and take out a couple of city blocks, the Russian people,
who are our greatest ally in World War two, are
going to miss the subtle here of the point that
that missile was paid for by Estonia. And this is
all where it will become Trump's war as sure as
the turning of the earth. They'll stick it to him,
and NATO will want to stick it to him because
they'll want him as an active combatant. Now, obviously on

(50:27):
the economic side, you're now getting engaged more than ever
with the secondary sanctions potential in fifty days, and you
can tell President Trump believes that he can bring this
to a head in fifty days of ben Harnwell and
coming back from that NATO trip where they talked about
increasing the thing we said, he was very moved. You

(50:48):
could tell him by that nothing really should have nothing
really should have changed. The Ukraine War is a European war.
It is a European war. Let me go back in
history and make sure everybody in this audience understands something,
and the Trump folks of the administration understands something. From
nineteen thirty nine until even after the Verrmach went in

(51:13):
a barbarossa in June of nineteen forty one, but all
the way up to Pearl Harbor, that part of it
was a European war. When the Japanese attacked US at
Pearl Harbor on the seventh seventh that night in the
White House. Just go read all the histories about it,
which I've read, basically anything that's important. There was discussion

(51:33):
the next day about when they went to Congress to
ask for a declaration of war against Japan. They warded
it very very precisely, a state of war existed because
Japan had attacked US, you know, while they were negotiating
with the State.

Speaker 1 (51:52):
Department, the worst of the worst. Correct.

Speaker 2 (51:55):
There is discussion about dew we declare Warren Jeremy the
same time, and it was the politicians and folks were adamant, no,
we're not going to declare war in Germany. That's a
European war, as much as the British have been trying
to dragons into it, and the British were actively trying
to dragons in to it in Church when these guys
admitted it on December eighth. We did not declare war

(52:16):
on Nazi Germany. Remember that they don't ever mention that
in the history books. We did not declare war on
Nazi Germany. Why it was a European war. And the
American people, particularly the tendencies of the American people to
want to take care of things at home, said okay, fine,
the Japanese attacked us, were at state of war with Japan.

Speaker 1 (52:35):
They had to vote.

Speaker 2 (52:36):
I think only one member of the House did not
vote for it. But they phrases a state of war exists, boom,
but we did not clearre war on Nazi Germany. Hitler
made a conscious decision I think two or three days later,
because of a secret treaty they had with the Japanese,
and thinking that the Americans wouldn't fight, or that we
were too weak or too cowardly to actually get engaged

(52:57):
in what was a blood letting on project on Operation Barbarossa.
And guess where the blood lands where we're talking about today.
That the Americans would never do that, he declared war
on the United States. Ever since the moment he declared
war in the United States, everybody in Washington d c.
The beginning of the Imperial Capital focus on Germany first.

(53:18):
The whole strategy shifted Germany first. The Pacific became a
secondary thought, the bloody war in the Pacific right, And
there was tons of complaints from people, why are we
not focused on the Japanese? Why are they always late
to get reinforcements. Why are they always late, particularly since
the strategy of the folks post Civil War was an
American strategy based on the Central Pacific and even then

(53:40):
the Three Island chain. That's why we became even became
thought about becoming an imperial power in the Philippines and
other places.

Speaker 1 (53:47):
By going to war with Spain.

Speaker 2 (53:50):
So this is we're in the same situation now, and
this is where we have to be very careful President Trump,
and he snapped at the guy who asked the question earlier, Hey,
I see your some that you go up the escalatory ladder.
What happens that done work? What's next? And he was
not happy with that question. He snapped at the guy,
don't ask that question. Understanding, President Trump has, you know,

(54:12):
many alternatives he's looking at. Not goes layest car on
the table. Now. He did come back and addresses somewhat later,
but Ben harnwell, uh, this is the the NATO and
the Europeans and Zelensky and that the collection of cruks
that work for Zolensky want to do nothing more. Their
number one objective is to hang this on Trump and

(54:33):
make this Trump's war, make this America's war, because then
once you go up the escalatory ladder on military aids,
you continue to open up the spickets for financial aid
which they can skim their twenty percent off the top,
and eventually you're going to get just like in the
Twelve Day War, you're gonna get. You know, you're providing
defense and you're providing personnel to run the defense operations.

(54:55):
Next thing you know, you're in offensive. You're an offensive
war over there. Their number Zelenski's number one priority is
to make sure that he can put the handle on
this of Trump's war and President Trump over and over
against that this is not my war. I've tried to
settle this. We thought we had four or five times.
Deals putin has not been straightforward. Ben, we got to

(55:18):
break Mike, Ben Moore, John Solomon, huge breaking news on
that the auto pen just brought up there. One question,
Biden gives an on the record, which he never did
in four years of the presidency of the New York Times.

Speaker 1 (55:29):
Thinking about that for a second, that's how that's how demented.
That's the dementia was all over him.

Speaker 2 (55:34):
Basically says, well, yeah, they used the autopen, but I
knew everybody they were doing.

Speaker 1 (55:38):
But please don't ask me who they signed the parties for.

Speaker 2 (55:40):
That means the pardons are no good And it's Katie
bar the door now because people are gonna be rolling
tons of information that Ben Harnroyal, we got about two
minutes your thoughts before we punch.

Speaker 6 (55:52):
Look, the argument, the thesis is that NATO was really
keen to do this, right, and that's what they they
spun out in the Oval Office. My question, Steve, is
that if NATO is so keen to be buying US
produced arms, why does it need to be broken by
Donald Trump sitting in the Oval Office, Why does Mark

(56:13):
Ruter need to come over to DC and have this
done from the over office. Well, the reason is exactly
the thesis that you're lying out. They are dragging Donald
Trump into this war, right.

Speaker 1 (56:25):
That is the point.

Speaker 6 (56:26):
That's the whole, the whole point about the theatrics today.
This is this is NATO, this is the Europeans dragging
like it on a fishing hook, Donald Trump into this war.
And he's saying we both we both of us independently
made this note that he said repeatedly not this is
not Trump's war. The question is, Steve, is how is
that going to land with the base. And I can

(56:47):
tell you, like I've got thirty seconds, I can tell
you it's not the base with the base.

Speaker 1 (56:52):
No, the base, it's beyond that.

Speaker 2 (56:54):
Though it's a base one hundred percent against this, there's
so many more complicated issues. The base is going to
have a major rollness. I got bounce real quickly. You're
you're where do people get.

Speaker 3 (57:03):
Your ben.

Speaker 4 (57:04):
On?

Speaker 1 (57:05):
Getta at Hanwell, let's not bury the lead. What did
Route say his one moment of truth there?

Speaker 2 (57:12):
Throw all the spin, Well, America is the world's police
that you're the police agent for the world. See their mentality. No,
the answer is that is incorrect. Where about America? First,
we're not the cop on the beat for the entire world.
They still believe that he said it. The one truth

(57:32):
of a moment Route Head in the entire thing was
he said, well, you're the cop, You're the you're the
police agent for the entire world, the whole world. Oh contraire,
mister Dutchman. Okay, Charlie Kirk is next. We're gonna be
back here at five o'clock. I'm sure it's gonna be
a fire war. In the rumors of war today at
five back in the Worom