July 14, 2025 • 48 mins
THE WAR ROOM WITH STEPHEN K. BANNON, JULY 14TH, 2025
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
And so the real question is not was Jeffrey Ebstein
a weirdo who is abusing girls? Yes, we can answer that.
The real question is why was he doing this? On
whose behalf? And where did the money come from? And
those are the questions that need to be answered, and
I think it's entirely fair to ask them, and it's
not adequate to say anyone who asked them is somehow
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desecrating the memory of little girls who died in Texas.
I'm not going to put up with that answer. I
don't care who gives that answer. That is not acceptable.
And I think the real answer is Jeffrey Ebstein was
working on behalf of Intel Services, probably not American, and
we have every right to ask on whose behalf was
he working. How does a guy go from being a
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math teacher at the Dalton School in the late seventies
with no college degree to having multiple airplanes, a private island,
and the largest residential house in Manhattan.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
Where did all the money come from?
Speaker 1 (00:55):
And no one has ever gotten to the bottom of
that because no one has ever tried. And moreover, it's
extremely obvious to anyone who watches that this guy had
direct connections to a foreign government. Now, no one's allowed
to say that that foreign government is Israel because we
have been somehow cowed into thinking that that's naughty. There
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is nothing wrong with saying that. There is nothing hateful
about saying that. There's nothing anti Semitic about saying there's
nothing even anti Israel about saying that. I've spent my
entire life pretty much in Washington, where I knew and
loved a number of people, including one very close person
who worked at CIA. That has never prohibited me from
saying I think the CIA has done some horrible things,
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murdered a bunch of people, participated in the murder of
a sitting US president. It's got a whole trail of crimes.
That doesn't make me a disloyal American.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
It doesn't make me.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
Anti American in any sense. I was born here, my
family's been here for hundreds of years. I love this country.
That's why I live here. So criticizing the behavior of
a government agency does not make you a hater. It
makes you a free person. It makes you a citizen.
You're allowed to do that because you're not a slave.
You're a citizen.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
Because I've argued for this from the beginning that in
that arc of looking at how the deep state has
tried to stop Trump in the MAGA movement, you can
easily fit in the Epstein situation right If you want
the full release of documents, the special prosecutor gets it.
And here's why. Epstein is a key that picks the
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lock on so many things, not just individuals, but also institutions,
intelligence institutions, foreign governments, and who's work and who was
working with him on our intelligence apparatus and in our government.
This is why it's a time for choosing now. We
have to decide right now, and back to President say hey,
look all of your great work. You just heard Tom Holman,
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you're about to hear Christy Nome of closing the border,
how did we get How did we get ten or
eleven or twelve or twenty million on Biden's watch? That
was absolutely that was a plan they had, That wasn't random.
That has to be investigating and people held accountable like
all these other things. This is why the Justice Department
is clearly overwhelmed with what they're working on. The FBI's overwhelmed.
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We only have two guys at the FBI. We have
a handful of people at the Justice Department. This special
counselor special prosecutor can take on many projects and add
people to it. You have to get to the bottom
of how the invasion took place. Why we now have
to put up one hundred and seventy billion dollars in
the latest bill to do this, Why is.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
This issue so important to the MAGA base.
Speaker 4 (03:42):
Steve Bannett explained it pretty well in the clip that
you showed from the Turning Point conference, and this was
a theme. You saw the conference split between people who
work for Trump or running for office who didn't talk
about this, and every other influencer who did. And the
Bannit perspective, which is widely shared, is that there is
a deep state that if you could cover this up,
can cover up who knows how many crimes against Donald Trump,
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crimes against the American people. If there must be something
hidden in the Epstein record that would embarrass much like
the Church Commission forty years ago, fifty years ago, I
should say, embarrassed the security state, there must be that
material in the Epstein files TBD unproven so far. The
other part of it is that from the people who
were booing in that audience is a real belief that
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there are people walking you were talking about Pepsi Wan
pump On Beach, people like that walking free right now,
who committed terrible crimes that have that have not been exposed,
and based on what happened here, would never be exposed.
And so I would say that the anger is being
redirected by these influencers a little bit away from Trump
towards Pam Bondi. You saw it in that Meccan Calli clip.
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A theme there in our reporting shall be talk about
supporting axios. Back this up is that Dan Pungino and
to a lesser extent, On Patel are scene as the
people who were pushing from the outside even more than
Trump was for four years. That this needs to be released,
that Bondi can't be trusted because she's a glory hog,
and y in Kelly the way that Kelly was putting it.
But it comes from these two fears. One that there
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are real crimes people got away with. Too is that
if you expose those real crimes, think of the temples
that can crumble in front of valand Trump. Why don't
they want to do that? That's the question the base has.
Speaker 5 (05:20):
The president has been considering you as the successor to J.
Speaker 6 (05:24):
Powell.
Speaker 5 (05:25):
He said some very nice things about you to me
recently when I was talking with him. Powell's term is
up in May, but there's also an opening in the
Federal Reserve in January. Would you be poised to accept
the position on the board in January?
Speaker 7 (05:41):
I had that job.
Speaker 8 (05:42):
I was a governor for US six years during the
financial crisis. It's a great job to have. It's up
to the President to make whatever decisions he wants. But
I think what we need is regime change at the FED.
And that's not just about the chairman. It's about a
whole range of people. It's about changing their mindset and
their models, and frankly, it's about breaking some heads because
the way they've been doing business is not working. Maybe
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in New York, maybe in Washington. People think that it's
great to have a FED chair as a martyr, but
that's not what the American people need. They need a
reformer to fix this so that the Federal Reserve can
get on the right side. I'll just leave you with this, Maria.
This period reminds me of the nineteen nineties. What's happening
now is the most transformative time in American economic history
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in a very long time. Productivity should be booming in
the next five to ten years because of technology. The
US should be at the very forefront of that.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
President calls it the Golden Agent.
Speaker 8 (06:36):
He could well be right about this. Alan Greenspan kept
rates low because he knew these policies were structurally disinflationary.
The FED doesn't have that view, and they're working against
that agenda. If you recognize what an important moment this is,
the FED needs to be part of it, and the
FED needs to understand where we are in our economic future.
Speaker 9 (06:56):
We talk about putent not being nice. On nights last
week more than seven hundred drones and missiles were over Ukraine,
many of them over Kiv. The damage was largely in
civilian areas. These were not, for the most part, in
military targets. So yeah, that's not nice. So for six
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months now, President at Trump has been alternating between making
threats about Russia and returning to his initial hope that
he could negotiate a peace deal. He finally seems to
understand that without more pressure he's not going to get
anything like a resolution of this conflict, which he often
speaks about emotionally if he speaks about the death on
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the battlefield, the hundreds and thousands of people killed. So
what this package involves, as he said, is the US
selling weapons to our NATO allies in Europe, who will
then probably give them to Ukraine. And they'll include, most
importantly given this barrage on Ukrainian cities, patriot missiles, which
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are really the only defense against the big ballistic missiles
that Russia has been firing, and a range of other weapons.
We don't know yet exactly whether they'll include deep strike weapons.
That would be a significant escalation. If the US does
put Moscow in range, that would be a big change
from the limits that the Biden administration had imposed, typically
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two hundred kilometers into Russia, not all the way to Moscow.
So we'll wait and see about the details of the package.
There are two issues that I would underline for your viewers.
One is whether these new weapons, offensive and defensive, will
be enough to change Vladimir Putin's calculus about whether this
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war is worth continuing. And the second is whether these
new weapons and Trump's support for Ukraine is sustainable. Trump
on Ukraine, as on so many other issues, as oscillated
one week he's here, another week he's there. And what
Ukraine needs, as financial markets need, is reliability and predictability.
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They're fighting a war. Morale questions in this war, I
think are increasingly important. The Russians plan to launch an
offensive through the summer and gain significant territory. So it's
a moment for clear sustained US policy. We'll see today
when Trump meets with the NATO Secretary General Mark Ruta,
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European Trump likes because he's been a supporter of Trump's
defense build up policies.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
We'll see exactly.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
What the details are.
Speaker 9 (09:34):
But again questions, can it be sustained and will it
actually change?
Speaker 2 (09:39):
Putin's mind.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
This is the climal screen of a dying regime. Pray
for our enemies because we're going to medieval on these people.
You've not got a free shot.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
All these networks lying about the people, the people have
had a belly full of it.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
I know you don't like hearing that. I know you've
tried to do everything in the world to stop that,
but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen.
Speaker 4 (10:03):
And where do people like that go to share the
big line?
Speaker 2 (10:07):
Mega media? I wish in my soul.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
If that answer is to save my country, this country
will be saved.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
War Room. Here's your host, Stephen k. Ban.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
It's Monday, fourteen July, the year of over Lord, twenty
twenty five. With so much going on, the recisions package
up for a vote looks like an economic resurgent with
President Trump's policies, markets markets are on fire right now.
Unfortunately al bond Mark. I'll talk about that about people
figuring out how we're going to pay for all this,
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with all this going on, and this controversy about the
institutions of the United States will referred to the deep state.
You just heard Kevin Warsh there on Maria yesterday. Kevin
Walsh is probably the most steadiest of the steady eddies.
He's talking about regime change at the Federal Reserve, not
just replacing the chairman who is under onslaught by O
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and b our good friend Russ Vote and others for
two and a half billion dollars spending on I guess,
redoing the temple of the Federal Reserve. He's on an
onslaught there, worsh is flat out running to be fed chair.
He's talking about regime change to basically Claire at the
entire building. Obviously, you started with Tucker, myself, others. I
think Dave Weigel gave it absolutely. Dave Weigel from Cenopore
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gave a great summary of what the weekend was about
about this institutional the deep state, who actually runs the country. Hey,
and I keep saying, the three most powerful institutions in Washington,
d c. Are the Central Intelligence Agency, the Federal Reserve
in Sencom down in Tampa, Florida, and in the Middle East.
We're going to get all into that today. We're gonna
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have to. We're gonna call some audibles here. The Secretary
General of the Unit of NATO, Mark Rute, a Dutch
politician who is quite close to President Trump because he's
the one guy that backed at least eventually NATO increasing
their spending, and they're increasing their spending because of the Ukraine.
It doesn't really hit into twenty thirty five, but at
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least directionally it's correct. He's coming to the White House
for consultation of a expanded American role in the Ukraine War. Actually,
I think for many of the people in the America
First Movement, it's quite shocking that today we're actually talking
about a major offensive, not just defensive weapons patriot missiles
that they're stripping out of the Indo Pacific to thwart
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off any type of invasion of Taiwan. You know, we
had the Taiwan ambassador on last week, ambassador to the
United States about the Chinese Companies Party and the People's
Liberation Navy actually doing rehearsals for an invasion. But now
over the weekend has talked about not just a huge
package of defensive weapons and patriot missiles, but actually offensive
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weapons and weapons that from the United States, of course
sold through NATO. Uh, that could be give the Ukrainians
offensive capability, not simply offensive capabil something that's here before
we've been adam ly oppose. Even the Biden administration wouldn't
do that, or if they did it, they did it
on the side, but the ability to hit Moscow. As
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I've said, uh, you know, the convergence, and you got
bb Net, Yahoo, and you know tel Aviv Levin and
the Israel First crowd cheering on uh, you know, regime
change in Iran. It said by Labor Day. You know,
let's take the first of September, always a always a
memorable day for European wars. You're gonna see the merger
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of these two conflicts. We are rapidly moving and edsually
being drawn in to a major war on the Eurasian
land mass and where we will be a combatant, and
we're being also drawn in. They continue to try to
draw us in. President Trump's taking a pretty tough line
to be drawn into a regime change conflict in Iran.
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And those two are going to merge. So all the
people said, oh, what third World War? To start? Third
World War? Is here bro been here, millions dead or
wounded already. It's about to get a lot nastier. It's
about to get We're going to go up a couple
of notches in the United States by supplying offensive capabilities.
Is now, just like in the First and the Twelve
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Day War, you're going to go from a supplier of
weapons to someone that helps them figure out how to
use them, to you know, join his combatant on the
defensive side, to join his combatant on the offensive side.
Regardless of whether NATO's the middleman or not. NATO Secretary
General at the White House suit of Dan Caldwell Ben
Harnwell from Rome. Next in the wor.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
Here's your host, Stephen K.
Speaker 10 (15:02):
Bath.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
Nothing like a the going next level in the Third
World War, which is already here. Don't letny of these
people say, oh, in the Twelve Day War, we didn't
you know, all these people panic and they were all
worried about the Third World War. Third World Wars here
in the two fronts of it right now, and those
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two fronts are of little interest to people in the
United States about the vital national security interests of the
United States of America. Here's what's important in the vital
national security interests of the United States, which we have
preached this gospel now for years, the southern border and
the invasion of ten I don't know twenty or thirty
million illegal aliens, but at least ten to twenty on
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Biden's watch, and to deport them out of this country
immediately as a national security concern. Number two is in
East Asia at the beginning of the Third Island Chain,
where the Chinese Commists Party is getting ready rehearsing a
potential invasion of Taiwan, which if you think all this,
you know all the ai guys, and hey, we're gonna
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have this great economy and productivity is going to increase,
and stock markets are going to go to the moon.
Everybody's going to get a much better job where they
have to do very little because they is going to
do it for you. Where that's not going to happen.
If Taiwan falls and the chip manufacturers over there become
under the control of the Chinese Kinmis Party are destroyed,
the United States, our economy will drop I don't know,
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ten fifteen percent without access to those ships because the
factories in Arizona and you know, in Phoenix area, in
Ohio and other places, they're not going to be ready
for a decade. And the production of these advanced chips,
if you study, is a science and an art. Just
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not going to magically waive a wind and say you
can be able to do it. It's a that's a
long term project. We've argued for years that we need
to do. But now we're in a terrible situation and
this is not wag the dog. A lot of people saying, well,
this is all wagged the dog to get off from
the Epstein and all the other stuff. No, and we
have to pursue both of those. John Solomon in the
second if about this situation with an investigation into the
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Deep States, that's going to go and I believe they
will announce a special prosecute I think sometime later this
week or next week, and Mike Ben's is going to
be you know, the great Mike Ben's is going to
go through. We're going to talk about the Central Intelligence
Agency and other aspects of this of Epstein and other
things about the CIA right now in the fantastic job
the CIA is doing, and like who are they actually
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working for and who are they working with right now?
And what intelligence are we getting? But we have to
deal with in front of us. The Secretary General of
NATO was not scheduled to come. That was kind of
put on the calendar here in the last couple of days.
Why is that, Folks better start paying attention. I said
this for the last two weeks. The most important story
out here We're not to spend enough time on is Ukraine.
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Why because that's a big ass war. Okay, there's two
million people dead or wounded already, and parts of Ukraine
looked like the Western Front in World War One, or
parts of it looked like Dresden in World War Two.
This is old fashioned, pounded out war. Okay, this is
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not global war and terror. This is not little this
is pound You know, you have one million and I'm
getting these numbers from in Bremer and President Trump has
said it a number of times. You have one million dead
and wounded Ukrainians and that includes military and civilians. And
you have a you have a million dead and wounded
Russian principally troops. So this package day, the package over
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the weekend is kind of shocking, you know. And Putin
and in President Trump's defense or he doesn't need a defense.
And the explanation on July third, in the morning after
a package was announced that they're going to withhold a
new missile, a new missile packages to Ukraine, I think
earlier in that week from the Pentagon. And we don't
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know actually who actually informed President Trump or even if
they did. He had a call on the morning of
the third of July with Putin and he's the first
to say, hey, didn't go very well. Axios reported that
Putin said, hey, look, this is a bilateral the ceasefires,
a bieladdal negotiation. You guys took a shot. We appreciate it,
but we've got this and kind of cut President Trump
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off and implied that there's going to be a summer offensive.
Anne Applebomb. Later that day or The Atlantic reported that
there's a six hundred seventy five thousand man army that
the Russians have put together. This was a Remember this
is you heard from David Ignatius of the Langley Bugle, right,
the head of Comm's department for the CIA. Ignatius told
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us that, you know, the Russians were beating their economies
in the tank. They couldn't go anywhere, couldn't do anything,
so they put they have no troops. Everybody's deserting six
hundred seventy five thousand troops. This is ann applebomb, not
not Trump, not war room. You know, she's a hater.
Six hundred and seventy five thousand troops that are ready
for a summer offensive. I think principally focused on Odessa.
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And that afternoon, after Putin had this not particularly pleasant
phone call with President Trump, they lit up on the
third and the evening of the third, Kiev as bad
as it has been lit up, and they've kind of
continued since then. Drone attacks, missile attacks, air attacks, etc.
So now we're in a situation not only going to
strip the Indo Pacific some more, you know, the you
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know Korea and the defense of Taiwan, which is vital
to the United States. That is in the vital national
security interests of the United States, no matter how much
some of my America First colleagues even hate the discussion
of that, that's a reality. Not on principles of democracy
or these people have been free for forty all that,
that's all terrific, And I think that's a big that's
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an element. But the real politique element is with that
the advanced Without the production of the advanced chip design,
we don't really have an economy to be blunt. And
I would dare anybody show me a report that says
we can go along without them. That's like the southern
border of the United States. That is in the vital
national security interest in the United States. Not all these
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side deals. The Middle East. Nothing in the Middle East
is in the vital national security interests of the United States.
Just not. And certainly Ukraine not even in the top fifty.
It's maybe in Europe's interest. And they said they're going
to get to five percent. Oh yeah, but that's going
to come in twenty thirty five. So route is over
today because this package is now about offensive weapons. And
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so I bring Dan Callwell and Ben Harnwil's with us caledwell,
so make me feel better on this this offensive package
at least what they're talking about, and I haven't defined
it yet, but there's a lot of reporting in the paper.
I don't know how good some of this reporting is,
but they're talking about not just you know, not just
patriot missiles, but offensive capability that could be when they
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say offensive, maybe even that could hit Moscow. Is what's
your assessment of this with your sources, sir.
Speaker 7 (22:06):
Well, just as you said, we don't know yet what
exactly is going to be in this package. It could
be a situation where the Europeans are simply buying stuff
that we were already going to send anyways. And this
allows President Trump to claim a victory, It helps us
not add more to our debt, and you know, in
a long term, it hopefully helps out the supply situation
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a little better than if we just sent things over. Now,
if they do provide long rage weapons, which so far
has been resisted by this administration. I think here's the
important point, Steve, is that it's not going to fundamentally
change the dynamics of this war. It is not going
to give Ukraine a significantly enhanced battlefield position, because, as
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you pointed out, this is really about a war of
mass it's a war of quantity, and the reality is
that the West doesn't have enough weapons to sustain Ukraine
for much longer at the current rate. And here's another reality.
Even if the West did not de industrialize and we
still had a real defense industrial base, is Ukraine just
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simply doesn't have enough people. You have had about eight
million people leave the country. As you talked about, there
could be up to a million casualties on the Ukrainian side,
and Russia has a three to one man power advantage.
So the providing the long range weapons, in my view,
is very high risk and even in the best scenario,
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low reward. And it's important to note the Russians have
been anticipating this move for a long time. So what
they have done is is that they've hardened up their airfields,
their other critical defense infrastructure in their western part of
the country. They've moved certain assets out of range of
these weapons, and so again it's not going to really
impact the battlefield. But what it could do is is
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you could have the Ukrainians do something like they did
during Operation Spider Web and attach strategic nuclear targets or
civilian targets which invite more Russian escalation. And there's a
risk that the Russians put that on.
Speaker 3 (24:12):
When you say hang out, when you say when you say,
when you say reckless, is it reckless for us? I
mean their backs into the wall. They're getting pounded every look.
We are being adamantly opposed to this war from the
evening before it started, and we said what was going
to happen? But the valor encourage of the Ukrainian people,
who Mersheimer and we agree of being led down the
Primrose path, their backs into the wall. They keep getting
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pounded like this, right, and and now they start an
offensive which I think will head to Odessa, but they'll
try to go up to the line of where the
most they can take, you know, a third of Ukraine
or more. You can't. How are we going to sit here?
Because the media is going to be all into a
besieged Ukraine is going to strike back, and those brothers
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have proven they did something Curtis wal May only fantasized about.
These people are very innovative, they're very the age, they're
very bold. Right, they get hit Moscow and something. This
is my point, folks, We're on the precipice of something
that's not in our control. We're about to arm people
right now. We have literally no control over them. We
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think we have control them, we don't have a control
of them. Spiderweb showed you that when they went in
and took out a third. They try to take out
a third of the strategic triad of the Russians, and
the Russians not just have long memories. Look how they fight.
It's a six hundred and seventy five thousand man conscript
army put together and quite frankly, puting these guys to KGB.
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They don't care how many Russians die. Look at World
War two, World War One and World War two. When
they grind, they grind, right, it's from Mother Russia and
they're going to grind this. And now we've got somebody
they're back against the wall that is capable of anything,
and we're giving them in this weapons package. If you
give these type of offensive capabilities, regardless of who the
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minute Milliman is. This is about this thing spinning out
of control. World War One and the guns of August
spun out of control. World War two, spun out of
control and ended in a war of annihilation and vengeance.
Right the fire bombing of Tokyo, obviously, the nuclear weapons
that took end the war without a million American casualties,
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infantry casualties. These things spin out of control. They all
spin out control like World War One, World War Two.
Because you're this is not global war and terror. This
is old fashioned pounded out And now we're prepared because
the Russians have played hardball and the Europeans have not
stood up quickly enough to defend this. This is a jam,
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and this is going to merge with the Middle East
War and all of a sudden, you're gonna have a major, major,
major conflict in the Eurasian land mass. And who are
they all going to look to to bail them out,
Uncle Sugar. They're doing it right now, the Twelve Day War,
in the situation in Ukraine. They're coming to us next to.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
The room, use your host, Stephen K.
Speaker 4 (27:02):
Bath.
Speaker 3 (27:05):
Okay, we are awaiting the Secretary General of the United Nations.
Who is at the White House date President Trump. I
think it was supposed to have a series of events
with evangelicals and faith based leaders. I think he's still
going to do that and Real Murker's voice will cover it.
But the intense military situation in Ukraine has called for
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his attention. That the Secretary General NATO Mark Route, a
Dutch politician, quite close to President Trump. I think it's
arriving momentarily. It's close to the press, but our own
Brian Glenn is hanging around and we may be able
to get in and get some questions. We're gonna see.
We're gonna call audibles this morning. So Caldwell, we are
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clearly going up to escalatory ladder. President Trump is saying that, hey,
he gave putin every chance, he tried to accommodate him talk,
and you know, I think his point of view is
not just the Russian rap prochman they're trying to negotiate,
but even a ceasefire in Ukraine, it doesn't appear. And
here's what the American people have to understand, folks, So
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write this down, get your number two princil out. The
Americans want a cease fire. I think maybe even certain
of the Europeans want to cease fire. The folks running
the deal in the troops in Russia write the conscripts
and their parents want to cease fire, right the Ukrainian
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parents who won't let their kids and won't approve a
national con you know, conscription to get more of the
under twenty five year olds in, they want to cease fire.
The American people would have their sons and daughters go
over there and more money, want to cease fire. Here's
who doesn't want to cease fire. The KGB, the guys
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running the deal Moscow, no way they're going to go
to this, to the ghet Odessa and maybe more. And
the guys running the deal in Kiev just spider web.
The guys running the deal in Kiev have no interest
because without this war that they're they're gone by buying
the car car okay out also many elements of the
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deep state spider webs. Dan Colwell always reminds me was
not just pulled off by the Ukrainians. It was pulled
off by the intelligence services and the military of the
United States, probably in vspad. Germany helped coordinate it clearly
with some very smart elements of the Ukrainian things. So
we're in a situation called well where the two principal
(29:39):
combatants have no interest in They all they want to
do is escalate, and they're looking for partners to help
them escalate. And right now, because Putin has just told Trump, hey,
look you took a shot. Thanks for the memories, but
I got this. Just butt out and and he's going
to do what he does. We're going up the escalatory ladder.
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This is why the Secretary General of NATO is coming
and having a morning cup of coffee at sixteen hundred
Pennsylvania Avenue this morning. Sir.
Speaker 7 (30:09):
Yeah, I have to say Ruda is very slick. I
met him in February. Honestly, if they would have appro
appointed Kadjakalis, who's this just monster from Estonia, the former
prime minister who makes up stories about being oppressed by
the communists, obviously think there's a world we would pulled
out of NATO. But rudis very slick. Look, you made
(30:33):
a point about who has an interest in escalating this.
I think we're alluding to this is that we think
of a lot of these entities, whether we're talking about
Ukraine and Russia or Europe as unitary, that they all
are on the same plage about everything, and a lot
of cases they aren't. Even within Ukrainian government, there are
a lot of people that either didn't know about Operation
(30:53):
Spider Web or were opposed to it because the next
day they were going to Istanbul for peace talks. And
that gets your point about what a lot of these
weapons and operations are really about. They're not changing the
battlefield dynamic. They're about delaying peace negotiations, delaying a rap
posche mode between Russia or the United States, or Russia
(31:16):
and NATO, or you know, actually ending the war in
Ukraine because there are a lot of vested interests in
continuing the war. To be more specific in Ukraine. That's
probably for being honest, you're makin Zelenski. The war's over,
They're probably gone. There's a lot of Baltic states that,
for a variety of regions, some of the loudest supporters
of Ukraine want the war to continue, either because they
(31:39):
believe that they're next, which is a legitimate fear, although
there's not really evidence that Putin has the same designs
on those countries that he does on Ukraine. Because of
the historical relations with those countries. There are other people
in Europe that want the war to continue, and there's
people here in the United States and want the war
to continue for variety of reasons. But I would just
(32:00):
say this is that for the United States, if if
the Russians and the Ukrainians are going to keep at it,
if neither side is serious about a ceasefire, we need
to reach a point where we assess we need to
walk away. And that gets to your point you were
making at the beginning, to show about we cannot sustain
this conflict indefinitely. We are making way too many trade
(32:24):
offs against our readiness in the Pacific, even things that
we're trying to do here at home. All those additional
troops we deployed to Eastern Europe, in Romania, in Poland
and elsewhere, a lot of those troops are the same
types of troops we are deployed to the southern border,
and we're drawing from the same types of units, and
so there are real trade offs at play here, and
(32:46):
so we're rapidly approaching a point where we have to
make some really tough decisions that honestly, we should have
made long ago. And just one final point on this.
Speaker 3 (32:56):
Look, yeah, go ahead.
Speaker 7 (32:58):
I just say I've been to Ukraine. I went to
ukrain last year, went to Odessa. You're I've met some
incredibly brave Ukrainians and some incredibly brave people doing this,
and you talk to a lot of them in private,
almost to a t. They don't like the fact that
Russians have have invaded and ruined their country, but they
know that they're not getting Crimea back. They know that
that they're they're not getting the Don Boss back. It's
(33:20):
just their leaders in Kiev for the most part, not
all of them, even some of them that that that
have been very hawkish. They know that this war is
going to end in the negotiated settlement and that these moves,
these escultory moves now only benefit certain groups of people.
Speaker 3 (33:35):
It's it's gonna end in an esciratory settlement. Here's here's why.
By not getting it, they're gonna the guys in Odessa
are gonna be part of that negotiation. You're not gonna
they're not gonna get Crimea back. They know that they're
not gonna get Don Boss back. We said that from
the beginning. Now they're going to make a move on
on on uh on Odessa, and then you got a
real problem. Ben Harnwell, Hang on, Dan, Ben Harnwell. First off,
(34:00):
they just changed the government today, aren't they changing the
deck chairs over there? As unless he's changing around first
time since the beginning of the war, they're geting some
new faces, some fresh faces in this for the American media, sir.
Speaker 6 (34:13):
Yes, Steve, good morning to you. They've pulled the guy
Schmiegel who has been who's not a character in Lord
of the Rings, who is a character Lord of the Rings.
But he's also up until today, the Prime Minister of Ukraine,
I think since twenty twenty. He's now out, and Zelensky
has done a switcheroo and put in the lady who
(34:34):
was negotiating the mineral steel, the aborted mineral steal. Look,
I'm going to cast my cynical, beady eyes on this one. Stephen.
Tell you just how I see this, and it's a
very cynical reading, okay, but it's basically this. If I
were to give a pitch to President Trump, it would
be this, mister President, sir, there is amongst your voters,
(34:57):
amongst the people who support you and come out and
fight for you, there is no political victory for you
in a military victory in Ukraine. And that's how I
would frame this. Nobody who has been out supporting Donald
Trump since Zelenski basically humiliated Potus in the first term
(35:19):
over the issue over the perfect phone call and all
the fallout of that and the impeachment that fell out
of that. This movement, and I know this because, as
I say again and again and again I read every
comment that's posted on GHETA, this movement is ninety eight
percent opposed to any support or whatsoever for Ukraine. And
(35:40):
as much as the story is today, as you and
Dan cold what are talking about this news that has
emerged primarily via axios of a potential weapons steal regarding
the Patriot missiles, I actually think the biggest story came
a couple of days ago, courtesy of Mark at Brennan
(36:01):
over at CBS.
Speaker 2 (36:02):
It's a story that I haven't seen in any of
the media.
Speaker 6 (36:07):
I've not seen it denied by the White House. But
I will simply repeat it in our post this out
on Get It and Rumble, and that is that the
President is considering extra fresh financial aid for Zelensky three
point eighty five billion left over from the drawdown the
(36:27):
presidential drawdown authority under the Biden regime. But more specifically,
in addition to that, five billion dollars are from the
seizing of the Russian assets. That's an escalation that even
Biden didn't want to want to perform. So the question
(36:47):
is this, Steve, and I'll hand back over to you
guys on this one. What are the criteria for success
and failure of the policy of arming Zelensky with these
Patriot missiles and the other missiles that can reach to Moscow.
I'd see the definitions, the calculations of how they are
going to define in the White House what success looks
(37:10):
like and what failure looks like. Because, as you were
saying just now in the first block, this is absolutely escalatory.
It's not what President Trump promised in the campaign. And
I repeat again, I don't buy the argument that he
was simply being sarcastic. I don't buy that whatsoever. Yeah,
(37:30):
please go ahead.
Speaker 3 (37:32):
But what the Lindsay Graham, here's the thing. Let me
just go Let's try to get your question to answer.
We get Dan carle On here, the Lindsey Graham pitch
and the Tom Cotton pitch in the in the Accelerationists,
the escalatory group, and what they want. You got to
remember what they want. They want us in an actual
armed conflict. They want us as a combatant in Ukraine,
(37:54):
just like they wanted us as a combatant in Persia.
And in Persia they got it. But Present and Trump
did the massive bombing campaign, Like I said, the most
complicated things since D Day, to end the Twelve Day
War and not to go to regime change. Because on
that Friday of the after the first night of the
bombing by the Israelis, all Fox News was cheerleading and
(38:16):
Netanyahu's government was talking about regime change. This is why
they took out the negotiators on the on you know,
the guys that WI call were supposed to meet with
on Sunday, Noman. They took out the senior military command.
We started this show that Friday. That Friday, what do
we talk about? This was a decapitation move for a
regime change. That's what they wanted. They wanted to suck
(38:37):
us into a war there, and they want to suck
us into war here. Because what you're doing now is
just up the escalatory ladder. This won't ended, This won't
this might not probably not even slow it down. These
guys are grinding. I think it's now time to work
with europe Hangar, say, work with our European allies to
(38:58):
get a determination of what is the endgame here. If
the endgame is military confrontation, let's just get it out
in front of the American people right now. Let's just
be honest with them, tell them, hey, this is where
this is headed. That brigade of one hundred troops in
the hundred first Airborne in eastern Romania are going to
be in the fight where you get all the folks
we've ford deployed into Poland and these other places. They're
(39:20):
going to be in the fight that we're going to
get intown to a ground war, which we are in
the Eurasian land mass, near Stalingrad, near Kursk, where near
every great commander in the last war that we actually
won outright right, the World War Two, that on both sides, Montgomery,
(39:42):
on the British Eisenhower, General Marshall, General Patent, you name them.
We cannot get involved in that part of the world
because that's called the Bloodlands for a reason. That's where
these the Germanic and Slavic entities have bled themselves out
for I don't know, a couple thousand years. It's not
(40:04):
our neighborhood, and it's a bad neighborhood. It's a tough
neighborhood right now. You go back to what happened in
nineteen forty one and forty two and forty three. You
got Ukrainians on the German side, You've got other guys
in the Russian side. You don't know what players player
on any day, and the atrocities there coming on, the
(40:24):
atrocities in the Ukrainian in nineteen thirty five, which are
almost as bad as the Holocaust. When they starve in
a place like Kansas, they starve the population to death
to feed the collectivization, the industrialization under the Bolsheviks or Russia.
This is a cursed part of the world. And why
(40:44):
we are inexoribly have said this over and over again.
We're inexorably getting drawn into a major conflict with direct
American participation. Short commercial break back in the moment.
Speaker 2 (40:57):
They all, here's your hood, Stephen K.
Speaker 1 (41:01):
Bath.
Speaker 3 (41:04):
Okay, they're moving around folks in the White House. So
as soon as we have a shot a camera, the
Secretary General NATO route will go right there. President Trump's
supposed to be close to the press, but you know,
President Trumps been known to call an audible. I think
that's what the Axios leaks are about, folks. You know
when they say, oh, your Axios fake news, O contraire.
(41:24):
I think it's the number one source where the administration
leaks to when they want to put out something and
get it out ahead of the mainstream media, although Axos
is the epicenter of the mainstream media. Birch Gold. Now
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it's got NPR PBS in there for a couple of
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Also the NDA to make sure they don't slip in
the artificial intelligence moratorium, which they spend a lot of
time on over the weekend. And there's a great actually
on on axios between between the Anthropics CEO Dario and
the h and the CEO the chip company Jensen, which
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Dario saying, Hey, I think we're gonna wipe out a
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Used to be not President Trump's favorite, but Route is
a very slick guy. He has gotten these guys to
commit to five percent, although it is over a decade
and is principally I think, focused on this Ukraine situation.
He'll be coming and we're trying to move assets around,
(45:04):
so it's sally closed to the press. But I believe
that President Trump may actually open it up and take questions,
and I think that'll be quite fascinating. John Solomon's supposed
to join us. He's got an amazing article. He broke
it on our show on Friday. I think we had
an overtime where actually was doing the interview with John Solomon.
John Solomon was talked about how the FBI and Cash
(45:27):
these guys are opening up an overall broad investigation of
the deep state, starting with Crossfire Hurricane. There's another great
article up in Just the News today. A lot of
discussion about that and whether the Epstein thing will be
put in there, particularly if a special prosecutor, a special
counsel is announced. John Solomon was supposed to join us
in the next hour, subject to us going live to
the White House, also trying to get Mike bens Up,
(45:49):
who knows the situation with the deep state better than anybody.
Chris Hort joins us. Chris with wars and the rumors
of war, and I'm telling everybody put a pin in
Labor Day weekend, because not only may the balloon go
up in two places, but you're going to see a
merger of this conflict, because there'll be the It'll be
it'll be the Persians and the Russians on one side,
and NATO, the Americans, Israelis hopefully wherever the Gulf Emirates
(46:14):
on the other. As we get into a deeper gets
sucked in deeper into the connect part of the Third
World War. Chris Hort, what do you got for us
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balloon goes up.
Speaker 10 (46:25):
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Very sadly, you know, it is so important to be
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No matter what is going on.
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I just said that part of the world is curse
this engine room. One of our members, the insineroom, said
he's toward the mass graves in that part of the world. Says,
(48:45):
you cannot believe. It's beyond comprehension. It's beyond human comprehension.
And now we stand on the cusp of being exorably
drawn in to a military conflict. Short break back in
the word, Otter wond
And so the real question is not was Jeffrey Ebstein
a weirdo who is abusing girls? Yes, we can answer that.
The real question is why was he doing this? On
whose behalf? And where did the money come from? And
those are the questions that need to be answered, and
I think it's entirely fair to ask them, and it's
not adequate to say anyone who asked them is somehow
(00:22):
desecrating the memory of little girls who died in Texas.
I'm not going to put up with that answer. I
don't care who gives that answer. That is not acceptable.
And I think the real answer is Jeffrey Ebstein was
working on behalf of Intel Services, probably not American, and
we have every right to ask on whose behalf was
he working. How does a guy go from being a
(00:42):
math teacher at the Dalton School in the late seventies
with no college degree to having multiple airplanes, a private island,
and the largest residential house in Manhattan.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
Where did all the money come from?
Speaker 1 (00:55):
And no one has ever gotten to the bottom of
that because no one has ever tried. And moreover, it's
extremely obvious to anyone who watches that this guy had
direct connections to a foreign government. Now, no one's allowed
to say that that foreign government is Israel because we
have been somehow cowed into thinking that that's naughty. There
(01:16):
is nothing wrong with saying that. There is nothing hateful
about saying that. There's nothing anti Semitic about saying there's
nothing even anti Israel about saying that. I've spent my
entire life pretty much in Washington, where I knew and
loved a number of people, including one very close person
who worked at CIA. That has never prohibited me from
saying I think the CIA has done some horrible things,
(01:38):
murdered a bunch of people, participated in the murder of
a sitting US president. It's got a whole trail of crimes.
That doesn't make me a disloyal American.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
It doesn't make me.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
Anti American in any sense. I was born here, my
family's been here for hundreds of years. I love this country.
That's why I live here. So criticizing the behavior of
a government agency does not make you a hater. It
makes you a free person. It makes you a citizen.
You're allowed to do that because you're not a slave.
You're a citizen.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
Because I've argued for this from the beginning that in
that arc of looking at how the deep state has
tried to stop Trump in the MAGA movement, you can
easily fit in the Epstein situation right If you want
the full release of documents, the special prosecutor gets it.
And here's why. Epstein is a key that picks the
(02:30):
lock on so many things, not just individuals, but also institutions,
intelligence institutions, foreign governments, and who's work and who was
working with him on our intelligence apparatus and in our government.
This is why it's a time for choosing now. We
have to decide right now, and back to President say hey,
look all of your great work. You just heard Tom Holman,
(02:54):
you're about to hear Christy Nome of closing the border,
how did we get How did we get ten or
eleven or twelve or twenty million on Biden's watch? That
was absolutely that was a plan they had, That wasn't random.
That has to be investigating and people held accountable like
all these other things. This is why the Justice Department
is clearly overwhelmed with what they're working on. The FBI's overwhelmed.
(03:17):
We only have two guys at the FBI. We have
a handful of people at the Justice Department. This special
counselor special prosecutor can take on many projects and add
people to it. You have to get to the bottom
of how the invasion took place. Why we now have
to put up one hundred and seventy billion dollars in
the latest bill to do this, Why is.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
This issue so important to the MAGA base.
Speaker 4 (03:42):
Steve Bannett explained it pretty well in the clip that
you showed from the Turning Point conference, and this was
a theme. You saw the conference split between people who
work for Trump or running for office who didn't talk
about this, and every other influencer who did. And the
Bannit perspective, which is widely shared, is that there is
a deep state that if you could cover this up,
can cover up who knows how many crimes against Donald Trump,
(04:04):
crimes against the American people. If there must be something
hidden in the Epstein record that would embarrass much like
the Church Commission forty years ago, fifty years ago, I
should say, embarrassed the security state, there must be that
material in the Epstein files TBD unproven so far. The
other part of it is that from the people who
were booing in that audience is a real belief that
(04:27):
there are people walking you were talking about Pepsi Wan
pump On Beach, people like that walking free right now,
who committed terrible crimes that have that have not been exposed,
and based on what happened here, would never be exposed.
And so I would say that the anger is being
redirected by these influencers a little bit away from Trump
towards Pam Bondi. You saw it in that Meccan Calli clip.
(04:47):
A theme there in our reporting shall be talk about
supporting axios. Back this up is that Dan Pungino and
to a lesser extent, On Patel are scene as the
people who were pushing from the outside even more than
Trump was for four years. That this needs to be released,
that Bondi can't be trusted because she's a glory hog,
and y in Kelly the way that Kelly was putting it.
But it comes from these two fears. One that there
(05:09):
are real crimes people got away with. Too is that
if you expose those real crimes, think of the temples
that can crumble in front of valand Trump. Why don't
they want to do that? That's the question the base has.
Speaker 5 (05:20):
The president has been considering you as the successor to J.
Speaker 6 (05:24):
Powell.
Speaker 5 (05:25):
He said some very nice things about you to me
recently when I was talking with him. Powell's term is
up in May, but there's also an opening in the
Federal Reserve in January. Would you be poised to accept
the position on the board in January?
Speaker 7 (05:41):
I had that job.
Speaker 8 (05:42):
I was a governor for US six years during the
financial crisis. It's a great job to have. It's up
to the President to make whatever decisions he wants. But
I think what we need is regime change at the FED.
And that's not just about the chairman. It's about a
whole range of people. It's about changing their mindset and
their models, and frankly, it's about breaking some heads because
the way they've been doing business is not working. Maybe
(06:05):
in New York, maybe in Washington. People think that it's
great to have a FED chair as a martyr, but
that's not what the American people need. They need a
reformer to fix this so that the Federal Reserve can
get on the right side. I'll just leave you with this, Maria.
This period reminds me of the nineteen nineties. What's happening
now is the most transformative time in American economic history
(06:26):
in a very long time. Productivity should be booming in
the next five to ten years because of technology. The
US should be at the very forefront of that.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
President calls it the Golden Agent.
Speaker 8 (06:36):
He could well be right about this. Alan Greenspan kept
rates low because he knew these policies were structurally disinflationary.
The FED doesn't have that view, and they're working against
that agenda. If you recognize what an important moment this is,
the FED needs to be part of it, and the
FED needs to understand where we are in our economic future.
Speaker 9 (06:56):
We talk about putent not being nice. On nights last
week more than seven hundred drones and missiles were over Ukraine,
many of them over Kiv. The damage was largely in
civilian areas. These were not, for the most part, in
military targets. So yeah, that's not nice. So for six
(07:19):
months now, President at Trump has been alternating between making
threats about Russia and returning to his initial hope that
he could negotiate a peace deal. He finally seems to
understand that without more pressure he's not going to get
anything like a resolution of this conflict, which he often
speaks about emotionally if he speaks about the death on
(07:39):
the battlefield, the hundreds and thousands of people killed. So
what this package involves, as he said, is the US
selling weapons to our NATO allies in Europe, who will
then probably give them to Ukraine. And they'll include, most
importantly given this barrage on Ukrainian cities, patriot missiles, which
(08:01):
are really the only defense against the big ballistic missiles
that Russia has been firing, and a range of other weapons.
We don't know yet exactly whether they'll include deep strike weapons.
That would be a significant escalation. If the US does
put Moscow in range, that would be a big change
from the limits that the Biden administration had imposed, typically
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two hundred kilometers into Russia, not all the way to Moscow.
So we'll wait and see about the details of the package.
There are two issues that I would underline for your viewers.
One is whether these new weapons, offensive and defensive, will
be enough to change Vladimir Putin's calculus about whether this
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war is worth continuing. And the second is whether these
new weapons and Trump's support for Ukraine is sustainable. Trump
on Ukraine, as on so many other issues, as oscillated
one week he's here, another week he's there. And what
Ukraine needs, as financial markets need, is reliability and predictability.
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They're fighting a war. Morale questions in this war, I
think are increasingly important. The Russians plan to launch an
offensive through the summer and gain significant territory. So it's
a moment for clear sustained US policy. We'll see today
when Trump meets with the NATO Secretary General Mark Ruta,
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European Trump likes because he's been a supporter of Trump's
defense build up policies.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
We'll see exactly.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
What the details are.
Speaker 9 (09:34):
But again questions, can it be sustained and will it
actually change?
Speaker 2 (09:39):
Putin's mind.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
This is the climal screen of a dying regime. Pray
for our enemies because we're going to medieval on these people.
You've not got a free shot.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
All these networks lying about the people, the people have
had a belly full of it.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
I know you don't like hearing that. I know you've
tried to do everything in the world to stop that,
but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen.
Speaker 4 (10:03):
And where do people like that go to share the
big line?
Speaker 2 (10:07):
Mega media? I wish in my soul.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
If that answer is to save my country, this country
will be saved.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
War Room. Here's your host, Stephen k. Ban.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
It's Monday, fourteen July, the year of over Lord, twenty
twenty five. With so much going on, the recisions package
up for a vote looks like an economic resurgent with
President Trump's policies, markets markets are on fire right now.
Unfortunately al bond Mark. I'll talk about that about people
figuring out how we're going to pay for all this,
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with all this going on, and this controversy about the
institutions of the United States will referred to the deep state.
You just heard Kevin Warsh there on Maria yesterday. Kevin
Walsh is probably the most steadiest of the steady eddies.
He's talking about regime change at the Federal Reserve, not
just replacing the chairman who is under onslaught by O
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and b our good friend Russ Vote and others for
two and a half billion dollars spending on I guess,
redoing the temple of the Federal Reserve. He's on an
onslaught there, worsh is flat out running to be fed chair.
He's talking about regime change to basically Claire at the
entire building. Obviously, you started with Tucker, myself, others. I
think Dave Weigel gave it absolutely. Dave Weigel from Cenopore
(11:39):
gave a great summary of what the weekend was about
about this institutional the deep state, who actually runs the country. Hey,
and I keep saying, the three most powerful institutions in Washington,
d c. Are the Central Intelligence Agency, the Federal Reserve
in Sencom down in Tampa, Florida, and in the Middle East.
We're going to get all into that today. We're gonna
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have to. We're gonna call some audibles here. The Secretary
General of the Unit of NATO, Mark Rute, a Dutch
politician who is quite close to President Trump because he's
the one guy that backed at least eventually NATO increasing
their spending, and they're increasing their spending because of the Ukraine.
It doesn't really hit into twenty thirty five, but at
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least directionally it's correct. He's coming to the White House
for consultation of a expanded American role in the Ukraine War. Actually,
I think for many of the people in the America
First Movement, it's quite shocking that today we're actually talking
about a major offensive, not just defensive weapons patriot missiles
that they're stripping out of the Indo Pacific to thwart
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off any type of invasion of Taiwan. You know, we
had the Taiwan ambassador on last week, ambassador to the
United States about the Chinese Companies Party and the People's
Liberation Navy actually doing rehearsals for an invasion. But now
over the weekend has talked about not just a huge
package of defensive weapons and patriot missiles, but actually offensive
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weapons and weapons that from the United States, of course
sold through NATO. Uh, that could be give the Ukrainians
offensive capability, not simply offensive capabil something that's here before
we've been adam ly oppose. Even the Biden administration wouldn't
do that, or if they did it, they did it
on the side, but the ability to hit Moscow. As
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I've said, uh, you know, the convergence, and you got
bb Net, Yahoo, and you know tel Aviv Levin and
the Israel First crowd cheering on uh, you know, regime
change in Iran. It said by Labor Day. You know,
let's take the first of September, always a always a
memorable day for European wars. You're gonna see the merger
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of these two conflicts. We are rapidly moving and edsually
being drawn in to a major war on the Eurasian
land mass and where we will be a combatant, and
we're being also drawn in. They continue to try to
draw us in. President Trump's taking a pretty tough line
to be drawn into a regime change conflict in Iran.
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And those two are going to merge. So all the
people said, oh, what third World War? To start? Third
World War? Is here bro been here, millions dead or
wounded already. It's about to get a lot nastier. It's
about to get We're going to go up a couple
of notches in the United States by supplying offensive capabilities.
Is now, just like in the First and the Twelve
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Day War, you're going to go from a supplier of
weapons to someone that helps them figure out how to
use them, to you know, join his combatant on the
defensive side, to join his combatant on the offensive side.
Regardless of whether NATO's the middleman or not. NATO Secretary
General at the White House suit of Dan Caldwell Ben
Harnwell from Rome. Next in the wor.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
Here's your host, Stephen K.
Speaker 10 (15:02):
Bath.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
Nothing like a the going next level in the Third
World War, which is already here. Don't letny of these
people say, oh, in the Twelve Day War, we didn't
you know, all these people panic and they were all
worried about the Third World War. Third World Wars here
in the two fronts of it right now, and those
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two fronts are of little interest to people in the
United States about the vital national security interests of the
United States of America. Here's what's important in the vital
national security interests of the United States, which we have
preached this gospel now for years, the southern border and
the invasion of ten I don't know twenty or thirty
million illegal aliens, but at least ten to twenty on
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Biden's watch, and to deport them out of this country
immediately as a national security concern. Number two is in
East Asia at the beginning of the Third Island Chain,
where the Chinese Commists Party is getting ready rehearsing a
potential invasion of Taiwan, which if you think all this,
you know all the ai guys, and hey, we're gonna
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have this great economy and productivity is going to increase,
and stock markets are going to go to the moon.
Everybody's going to get a much better job where they
have to do very little because they is going to
do it for you. Where that's not going to happen.
If Taiwan falls and the chip manufacturers over there become
under the control of the Chinese Kinmis Party are destroyed,
the United States, our economy will drop I don't know,
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ten fifteen percent without access to those ships because the
factories in Arizona and you know, in Phoenix area, in
Ohio and other places, they're not going to be ready
for a decade. And the production of these advanced chips,
if you study, is a science and an art. Just
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not going to magically waive a wind and say you
can be able to do it. It's a that's a
long term project. We've argued for years that we need
to do. But now we're in a terrible situation and
this is not wag the dog. A lot of people saying, well,
this is all wagged the dog to get off from
the Epstein and all the other stuff. No, and we
have to pursue both of those. John Solomon in the
second if about this situation with an investigation into the
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Deep States, that's going to go and I believe they
will announce a special prosecute I think sometime later this
week or next week, and Mike Ben's is going to
be you know, the great Mike Ben's is going to
go through. We're going to talk about the Central Intelligence
Agency and other aspects of this of Epstein and other
things about the CIA right now in the fantastic job
the CIA is doing, and like who are they actually
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working for and who are they working with right now?
And what intelligence are we getting? But we have to
deal with in front of us. The Secretary General of
NATO was not scheduled to come. That was kind of
put on the calendar here in the last couple of days.
Why is that, Folks better start paying attention. I said
this for the last two weeks. The most important story
out here We're not to spend enough time on is Ukraine.
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Why because that's a big ass war. Okay, there's two
million people dead or wounded already, and parts of Ukraine
looked like the Western Front in World War One, or
parts of it looked like Dresden in World War Two.
This is old fashioned, pounded out war. Okay, this is
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not global war and terror. This is not little this
is pound You know, you have one million and I'm
getting these numbers from in Bremer and President Trump has
said it a number of times. You have one million dead
and wounded Ukrainians and that includes military and civilians. And
you have a you have a million dead and wounded
Russian principally troops. So this package day, the package over
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the weekend is kind of shocking, you know. And Putin
and in President Trump's defense or he doesn't need a defense.
And the explanation on July third, in the morning after
a package was announced that they're going to withhold a
new missile, a new missile packages to Ukraine, I think
earlier in that week from the Pentagon. And we don't
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know actually who actually informed President Trump or even if
they did. He had a call on the morning of
the third of July with Putin and he's the first
to say, hey, didn't go very well. Axios reported that
Putin said, hey, look, this is a bilateral the ceasefires,
a bieladdal negotiation. You guys took a shot. We appreciate it,
but we've got this and kind of cut President Trump
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off and implied that there's going to be a summer offensive.
Anne Applebomb. Later that day or The Atlantic reported that
there's a six hundred seventy five thousand man army that
the Russians have put together. This was a Remember this
is you heard from David Ignatius of the Langley Bugle, right,
the head of Comm's department for the CIA. Ignatius told
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us that, you know, the Russians were beating their economies
in the tank. They couldn't go anywhere, couldn't do anything,
so they put they have no troops. Everybody's deserting six
hundred seventy five thousand troops. This is ann applebomb, not
not Trump, not war room. You know, she's a hater.
Six hundred and seventy five thousand troops that are ready
for a summer offensive. I think principally focused on Odessa.
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And that afternoon, after Putin had this not particularly pleasant
phone call with President Trump, they lit up on the
third and the evening of the third, Kiev as bad
as it has been lit up, and they've kind of
continued since then. Drone attacks, missile attacks, air attacks, etc.
So now we're in a situation not only going to
strip the Indo Pacific some more, you know, the you
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know Korea and the defense of Taiwan, which is vital
to the United States. That is in the vital national
security interests of the United States, no matter how much
some of my America First colleagues even hate the discussion
of that, that's a reality. Not on principles of democracy
or these people have been free for forty all that,
that's all terrific, And I think that's a big that's
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an element. But the real politique element is with that
the advanced Without the production of the advanced chip design,
we don't really have an economy to be blunt. And
I would dare anybody show me a report that says
we can go along without them. That's like the southern
border of the United States. That is in the vital
national security interest in the United States. Not all these
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side deals. The Middle East. Nothing in the Middle East
is in the vital national security interests of the United States.
Just not. And certainly Ukraine not even in the top fifty.
It's maybe in Europe's interest. And they said they're going
to get to five percent. Oh yeah, but that's going
to come in twenty thirty five. So route is over
today because this package is now about offensive weapons. And
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so I bring Dan Callwell and Ben Harnwil's with us caledwell,
so make me feel better on this this offensive package
at least what they're talking about, and I haven't defined
it yet, but there's a lot of reporting in the paper.
I don't know how good some of this reporting is,
but they're talking about not just you know, not just
patriot missiles, but offensive capability that could be when they
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say offensive, maybe even that could hit Moscow. Is what's
your assessment of this with your sources, sir.
Speaker 7 (22:06):
Well, just as you said, we don't know yet what
exactly is going to be in this package. It could
be a situation where the Europeans are simply buying stuff
that we were already going to send anyways. And this
allows President Trump to claim a victory, It helps us
not add more to our debt, and you know, in
a long term, it hopefully helps out the supply situation
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a little better than if we just sent things over. Now,
if they do provide long rage weapons, which so far
has been resisted by this administration. I think here's the
important point, Steve, is that it's not going to fundamentally
change the dynamics of this war. It is not going
to give Ukraine a significantly enhanced battlefield position, because, as
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you pointed out, this is really about a war of
mass it's a war of quantity, and the reality is
that the West doesn't have enough weapons to sustain Ukraine
for much longer at the current rate. And here's another reality.
Even if the West did not de industrialize and we
still had a real defense industrial base, is Ukraine just
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simply doesn't have enough people. You have had about eight
million people leave the country. As you talked about, there
could be up to a million casualties on the Ukrainian side,
and Russia has a three to one man power advantage.
So the providing the long range weapons, in my view,
is very high risk and even in the best scenario,
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low reward. And it's important to note the Russians have
been anticipating this move for a long time. So what
they have done is is that they've hardened up their airfields,
their other critical defense infrastructure in their western part of
the country. They've moved certain assets out of range of
these weapons, and so again it's not going to really
impact the battlefield. But what it could do is is
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you could have the Ukrainians do something like they did
during Operation Spider Web and attach strategic nuclear targets or
civilian targets which invite more Russian escalation. And there's a
risk that the Russians put that on.
Speaker 3 (24:12):
When you say hang out, when you say when you say,
when you say reckless, is it reckless for us? I
mean their backs into the wall. They're getting pounded every look.
We are being adamantly opposed to this war from the
evening before it started, and we said what was going
to happen? But the valor encourage of the Ukrainian people,
who Mersheimer and we agree of being led down the
Primrose path, their backs into the wall. They keep getting
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pounded like this, right, and and now they start an
offensive which I think will head to Odessa, but they'll
try to go up to the line of where the
most they can take, you know, a third of Ukraine
or more. You can't. How are we going to sit here?
Because the media is going to be all into a
besieged Ukraine is going to strike back, and those brothers
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have proven they did something Curtis wal May only fantasized about.
These people are very innovative, they're very the age, they're
very bold. Right, they get hit Moscow and something. This
is my point, folks, We're on the precipice of something
that's not in our control. We're about to arm people
right now. We have literally no control over them. We
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think we have control them, we don't have a control
of them. Spiderweb showed you that when they went in
and took out a third. They try to take out
a third of the strategic triad of the Russians, and
the Russians not just have long memories. Look how they fight.
It's a six hundred and seventy five thousand man conscript
army put together and quite frankly, puting these guys to KGB.
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They don't care how many Russians die. Look at World
War two, World War One and World War two. When
they grind, they grind, right, it's from Mother Russia and
they're going to grind this. And now we've got somebody
they're back against the wall that is capable of anything,
and we're giving them in this weapons package. If you
give these type of offensive capabilities, regardless of who the
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minute Milliman is. This is about this thing spinning out
of control. World War One and the guns of August
spun out of control. World War two, spun out of
control and ended in a war of annihilation and vengeance.
Right the fire bombing of Tokyo, obviously, the nuclear weapons
that took end the war without a million American casualties,
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infantry casualties. These things spin out of control. They all
spin out control like World War One, World War Two.
Because you're this is not global war and terror. This
is old fashioned pounded out And now we're prepared because
the Russians have played hardball and the Europeans have not
stood up quickly enough to defend this. This is a jam,
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and this is going to merge with the Middle East
War and all of a sudden, you're gonna have a major, major,
major conflict in the Eurasian land mass. And who are
they all going to look to to bail them out,
Uncle Sugar. They're doing it right now, the Twelve Day War,
in the situation in Ukraine. They're coming to us next to.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
The room, use your host, Stephen K.
Speaker 4 (27:02):
Bath.
Speaker 3 (27:05):
Okay, we are awaiting the Secretary General of the United Nations.
Who is at the White House date President Trump. I
think it was supposed to have a series of events
with evangelicals and faith based leaders. I think he's still
going to do that and Real Murker's voice will cover it.
But the intense military situation in Ukraine has called for
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his attention. That the Secretary General NATO Mark Route, a
Dutch politician, quite close to President Trump. I think it's
arriving momentarily. It's close to the press, but our own
Brian Glenn is hanging around and we may be able
to get in and get some questions. We're gonna see.
We're gonna call audibles this morning. So Caldwell, we are
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clearly going up to escalatory ladder. President Trump is saying that, hey,
he gave putin every chance, he tried to accommodate him talk,
and you know, I think his point of view is
not just the Russian rap prochman they're trying to negotiate,
but even a ceasefire in Ukraine, it doesn't appear. And
here's what the American people have to understand, folks, So
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write this down, get your number two princil out. The
Americans want a cease fire. I think maybe even certain
of the Europeans want to cease fire. The folks running
the deal in the troops in Russia write the conscripts
and their parents want to cease fire, right the Ukrainian
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parents who won't let their kids and won't approve a
national con you know, conscription to get more of the
under twenty five year olds in, they want to cease fire.
The American people would have their sons and daughters go
over there and more money, want to cease fire. Here's
who doesn't want to cease fire. The KGB, the guys
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running the deal Moscow, no way they're going to go
to this, to the ghet Odessa and maybe more. And
the guys running the deal in Kiev just spider web.
The guys running the deal in Kiev have no interest
because without this war that they're they're gone by buying
the car car okay out also many elements of the
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deep state spider webs. Dan Colwell always reminds me was
not just pulled off by the Ukrainians. It was pulled
off by the intelligence services and the military of the
United States, probably in vspad. Germany helped coordinate it clearly
with some very smart elements of the Ukrainian things. So
we're in a situation called well where the two principal
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combatants have no interest in They all they want to
do is escalate, and they're looking for partners to help
them escalate. And right now, because Putin has just told Trump, hey,
look you took a shot. Thanks for the memories, but
I got this. Just butt out and and he's going
to do what he does. We're going up the escalatory ladder.
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This is why the Secretary General of NATO is coming
and having a morning cup of coffee at sixteen hundred
Pennsylvania Avenue this morning. Sir.
Speaker 7 (30:09):
Yeah, I have to say Ruda is very slick. I
met him in February. Honestly, if they would have appro
appointed Kadjakalis, who's this just monster from Estonia, the former
prime minister who makes up stories about being oppressed by
the communists, obviously think there's a world we would pulled
out of NATO. But rudis very slick. Look, you made
(30:33):
a point about who has an interest in escalating this.
I think we're alluding to this is that we think
of a lot of these entities, whether we're talking about
Ukraine and Russia or Europe as unitary, that they all
are on the same plage about everything, and a lot
of cases they aren't. Even within Ukrainian government, there are
a lot of people that either didn't know about Operation
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Spider Web or were opposed to it because the next
day they were going to Istanbul for peace talks. And
that gets your point about what a lot of these
weapons and operations are really about. They're not changing the
battlefield dynamic. They're about delaying peace negotiations, delaying a rap
posche mode between Russia or the United States, or Russia
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and NATO, or you know, actually ending the war in
Ukraine because there are a lot of vested interests in
continuing the war. To be more specific in Ukraine. That's
probably for being honest, you're makin Zelenski. The war's over,
They're probably gone. There's a lot of Baltic states that,
for a variety of regions, some of the loudest supporters
of Ukraine want the war to continue, either because they
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believe that they're next, which is a legitimate fear, although
there's not really evidence that Putin has the same designs
on those countries that he does on Ukraine. Because of
the historical relations with those countries. There are other people
in Europe that want the war to continue, and there's
people here in the United States and want the war
to continue for variety of reasons. But I would just
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say this is that for the United States, if if
the Russians and the Ukrainians are going to keep at it,
if neither side is serious about a ceasefire, we need
to reach a point where we assess we need to
walk away. And that gets to your point you were
making at the beginning, to show about we cannot sustain
this conflict indefinitely. We are making way too many trade
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offs against our readiness in the Pacific, even things that
we're trying to do here at home. All those additional
troops we deployed to Eastern Europe, in Romania, in Poland
and elsewhere, a lot of those troops are the same
types of troops we are deployed to the southern border,
and we're drawing from the same types of units, and
so there are real trade offs at play here, and
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so we're rapidly approaching a point where we have to
make some really tough decisions that honestly, we should have
made long ago. And just one final point on this.
Speaker 3 (32:56):
Look, yeah, go ahead.
Speaker 7 (32:58):
I just say I've been to Ukraine. I went to
ukrain last year, went to Odessa. You're I've met some
incredibly brave Ukrainians and some incredibly brave people doing this,
and you talk to a lot of them in private,
almost to a t. They don't like the fact that
Russians have have invaded and ruined their country, but they
know that they're not getting Crimea back. They know that
that they're they're not getting the Don Boss back. It's
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just their leaders in Kiev for the most part, not
all of them, even some of them that that that
have been very hawkish. They know that this war is
going to end in the negotiated settlement and that these moves,
these escultory moves now only benefit certain groups of people.
Speaker 3 (33:35):
It's it's gonna end in an esciratory settlement. Here's here's why.
By not getting it, they're gonna the guys in Odessa
are gonna be part of that negotiation. You're not gonna
they're not gonna get Crimea back. They know that they're
not gonna get Don Boss back. We said that from
the beginning. Now they're going to make a move on
on on uh on Odessa, and then you got a
real problem. Ben Harnwell, Hang on, Dan, Ben Harnwell. First off,
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they just changed the government today, aren't they changing the
deck chairs over there? As unless he's changing around first
time since the beginning of the war, they're geting some
new faces, some fresh faces in this for the American media, sir.
Speaker 6 (34:13):
Yes, Steve, good morning to you. They've pulled the guy
Schmiegel who has been who's not a character in Lord
of the Rings, who is a character Lord of the Rings.
But he's also up until today, the Prime Minister of Ukraine,
I think since twenty twenty. He's now out, and Zelensky
has done a switcheroo and put in the lady who
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was negotiating the mineral steel, the aborted mineral steal. Look,
I'm going to cast my cynical, beady eyes on this one. Stephen.
Tell you just how I see this, and it's a
very cynical reading, okay, but it's basically this. If I
were to give a pitch to President Trump, it would
be this, mister President, sir, there is amongst your voters,
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amongst the people who support you and come out and
fight for you, there is no political victory for you
in a military victory in Ukraine. And that's how I
would frame this. Nobody who has been out supporting Donald
Trump since Zelenski basically humiliated Potus in the first term
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over the issue over the perfect phone call and all
the fallout of that and the impeachment that fell out
of that. This movement, and I know this because, as
I say again and again and again I read every
comment that's posted on GHETA, this movement is ninety eight
percent opposed to any support or whatsoever for Ukraine. And
(35:40):
as much as the story is today, as you and
Dan cold what are talking about this news that has
emerged primarily via axios of a potential weapons steal regarding
the Patriot missiles, I actually think the biggest story came
a couple of days ago, courtesy of Mark at Brennan
(36:01):
over at CBS.
Speaker 2 (36:02):
It's a story that I haven't seen in any of
the media.
Speaker 6 (36:07):
I've not seen it denied by the White House. But
I will simply repeat it in our post this out
on Get It and Rumble, and that is that the
President is considering extra fresh financial aid for Zelensky three
point eighty five billion left over from the drawdown the
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presidential drawdown authority under the Biden regime. But more specifically,
in addition to that, five billion dollars are from the
seizing of the Russian assets. That's an escalation that even
Biden didn't want to want to perform. So the question
(36:47):
is this, Steve, and I'll hand back over to you
guys on this one. What are the criteria for success
and failure of the policy of arming Zelensky with these
Patriot missiles and the other missiles that can reach to Moscow.
I'd see the definitions, the calculations of how they are
going to define in the White House what success looks
(37:10):
like and what failure looks like. Because, as you were
saying just now in the first block, this is absolutely escalatory.
It's not what President Trump promised in the campaign. And
I repeat again, I don't buy the argument that he
was simply being sarcastic. I don't buy that whatsoever. Yeah,
(37:30):
please go ahead.
Speaker 3 (37:32):
But what the Lindsay Graham, here's the thing. Let me
just go Let's try to get your question to answer.
We get Dan carle On here, the Lindsey Graham pitch
and the Tom Cotton pitch in the in the Accelerationists,
the escalatory group, and what they want. You got to
remember what they want. They want us in an actual
armed conflict. They want us as a combatant in Ukraine,
(37:54):
just like they wanted us as a combatant in Persia.
And in Persia they got it. But Present and Trump
did the massive bombing campaign, Like I said, the most
complicated things since D Day, to end the Twelve Day
War and not to go to regime change. Because on
that Friday of the after the first night of the
bombing by the Israelis, all Fox News was cheerleading and
(38:16):
Netanyahu's government was talking about regime change. This is why
they took out the negotiators on the on you know,
the guys that WI call were supposed to meet with
on Sunday, Noman. They took out the senior military command.
We started this show that Friday. That Friday, what do
we talk about? This was a decapitation move for a
regime change. That's what they wanted. They wanted to suck
(38:37):
us into a war there, and they want to suck
us into war here. Because what you're doing now is
just up the escalatory ladder. This won't ended, This won't
this might not probably not even slow it down. These
guys are grinding. I think it's now time to work
with europe Hangar, say, work with our European allies to
(38:58):
get a determination of what is the endgame here. If
the endgame is military confrontation, let's just get it out
in front of the American people right now. Let's just
be honest with them, tell them, hey, this is where
this is headed. That brigade of one hundred troops in
the hundred first Airborne in eastern Romania are going to
be in the fight where you get all the folks
we've ford deployed into Poland and these other places. They're
(39:20):
going to be in the fight that we're going to
get intown to a ground war, which we are in
the Eurasian land mass, near Stalingrad, near Kursk, where near
every great commander in the last war that we actually
won outright right, the World War Two, that on both sides, Montgomery,
(39:42):
on the British Eisenhower, General Marshall, General Patent, you name them.
We cannot get involved in that part of the world
because that's called the Bloodlands for a reason. That's where
these the Germanic and Slavic entities have bled themselves out
for I don't know, a couple thousand years. It's not
(40:04):
our neighborhood, and it's a bad neighborhood. It's a tough
neighborhood right now. You go back to what happened in
nineteen forty one and forty two and forty three. You
got Ukrainians on the German side, You've got other guys
in the Russian side. You don't know what players player
on any day, and the atrocities there coming on, the
(40:24):
atrocities in the Ukrainian in nineteen thirty five, which are
almost as bad as the Holocaust. When they starve in
a place like Kansas, they starve the population to death
to feed the collectivization, the industrialization under the Bolsheviks or Russia.
This is a cursed part of the world. And why
(40:44):
we are inexoribly have said this over and over again.
We're inexorably getting drawn into a major conflict with direct
American participation. Short commercial break back in the moment.
Speaker 2 (40:57):
They all, here's your hood, Stephen K.
Speaker 1 (41:01):
Bath.
Speaker 3 (41:04):
Okay, they're moving around folks in the White House. So
as soon as we have a shot a camera, the
Secretary General NATO route will go right there. President Trump's
supposed to be close to the press, but you know,
President Trumps been known to call an audible. I think
that's what the Axios leaks are about, folks. You know
when they say, oh, your Axios fake news, O contraire.
(41:24):
I think it's the number one source where the administration
leaks to when they want to put out something and
get it out ahead of the mainstream media, although Axos
is the epicenter of the mainstream media. Birch Gold. Now
on a Monday morning, we're talking about wars and the
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lot going on the recisions bills coming up. President Trump's
going to need help on that. Think about that statement.
President Trump is going to need assistance and Russo is
going to need assistance on a nine point three billion
dollar recisions package, which is quite frankly just symbolic because
(42:54):
it's got NPR PBS in there for a couple of
billion dollars. You got some other stuff from USAAD. They
can't even get that. The Republican Conference is not fully
supporting that right now. I think the vote's supposed to
be the eighteenth. It burns off, so it's got to
be in the next couple of days. I think Russell,
this guy's trying to get a vote tomorrow the next day.
My understanding, they ain't got the votes think about that
for a second. We're gonna need you at the ramparts.
(43:16):
Also the NDA to make sure they don't slip in
the artificial intelligence moratorium, which they spend a lot of
time on over the weekend. And there's a great actually
on on axios between between the Anthropics CEO Dario and
the h and the CEO the chip company Jensen, which
(43:38):
is now a fortrain dollar market cap, arguing one Jensen
saying there's gonna be more opportunities created by artificial intelligence.
Dario saying, Hey, I think we're gonna wipe out a
whole generation of middle middle managers, white collar workers. We've
got to be very concerned about this great debate over there.
To make sure you go check that out. We're gonna
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(44:43):
Ben Hornwell momentarily. We're waiting for the Secretary General of NATO.
Used to be not President Trump's favorite, but Route is
a very slick guy. He has gotten these guys to
commit to five percent, although it is over a decade
and is principally I think, focused on this Ukraine situation.
He'll be coming and we're trying to move assets around,
(45:04):
so it's sally closed to the press. But I believe
that President Trump may actually open it up and take questions,
and I think that'll be quite fascinating. John Solomon's supposed
to join us. He's got an amazing article. He broke
it on our show on Friday. I think we had
an overtime where actually was doing the interview with John Solomon.
John Solomon was talked about how the FBI and Cash
(45:27):
these guys are opening up an overall broad investigation of
the deep state, starting with Crossfire Hurricane. There's another great
article up in Just the News today. A lot of
discussion about that and whether the Epstein thing will be
put in there, particularly if a special prosecutor, a special
counsel is announced. John Solomon was supposed to join us
in the next hour, subject to us going live to
the White House, also trying to get Mike bens Up,
(45:49):
who knows the situation with the deep state better than anybody.
Chris Hort joins us. Chris with wars and the rumors
of war, and I'm telling everybody put a pin in
Labor Day weekend, because not only may the balloon go
up in two places, but you're going to see a
merger of this conflict, because there'll be the It'll be
it'll be the Persians and the Russians on one side,
and NATO, the Americans, Israelis hopefully wherever the Gulf Emirates
(46:14):
on the other. As we get into a deeper gets
sucked in deeper into the connect part of the Third
World War. Chris Hort, what do you got for us
to help people make sure they can communicate when the
balloon goes up.
Speaker 10 (46:25):
Sir, well, see what we go for you is the
one thing that every household needs, and that's a satellite
phone to make sure that you can stay connected no
matter what happens.
Speaker 3 (46:35):
Stee.
Speaker 10 (46:36):
Just like we saw in the last couple of weeks
in ker Texas. You know when when that floodwater hits,
the first casualties with the celts houers, and that lack
of communication most likely caused the death of more people.
Very sadly, you know, it is so important to be
prepared and to be able to communicate.
Speaker 3 (46:52):
No matter what is going on.
Speaker 10 (46:54):
We know that the Russians, the North Koreans, the Chinese,
the Iranians are all targeting our infrastruy, and then number
one target is always going to be our communications networks.
They've been successful before at taking these things offline, and
no doubt they'll be successful again. So the number one
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Thanks Steve Satellite Phone Store. Well, the engine room tells me,
I just said that part of the world is curse
this engine room. One of our members, the insineroom, said
he's toward the mass graves in that part of the world. Says,
(48:45):
you cannot believe. It's beyond comprehension. It's beyond human comprehension.
And now we stand on the cusp of being exorably
drawn in to a military conflict. Short break back in
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