July 15, 2025 • 48 mins
THE WAR ROOM WITH STEPHEN K. BANNON, JULY 15TH, 2025
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Yes, this is our June read on CPI, the Consumer
Price Inflationary Guide, and it is a little warmer than
expected on year over year, but headline looks good. Up
three tenths as expected.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
That does follow up one tenth.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
Up three tenths will be the second warmest of the year.
January was the warmest. That up half one percent. This
is as expected, but two tenths hotter than the rearview mirror.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
If we strip out food and energy.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
Comes in a tenth cooler than expectations, up two tenths.
We're expecting up three in the rearview mirror was up
one tenth. Up two tenths equals where we were in April.
To find a higher number, you're going once again back
to January, the high watermark for the year. Up four tenths. Now,
let's go year over year year over year headline this
doesn't include this includes food and energy is up two
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point seven. That's one tenth hotter than we are expecting.
It's three tenths hotter than our last look at two
point four. And how does it come two point seven
would be the highest read since Januyanuary February. February was
two point eight. January is three point zero, So even
though it's less than it us at the beginning the year,
it did warm up just a bit. And finally, if
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we go year over year ex food and energy, arguably
in my opinion, one of the most important numbers, it
comes in at two point nine, exactly as expected, but
it is one tenth hotter than the rearview mirror, which
was two point eight.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
Two point nine.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Well, it would be the warmest read since February. Once again,
you had January and February three point three and three
point one, respectively.
Speaker 4 (01:32):
So even though we have made.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
Progress from the beginning of the year when numbers were higher,
we do see a little bump on the year over year.
Maybe the best news is the monthly core number up
two tenths. It certainly seems though the market was expecting
this or worse because interest rates initially moved lower. We're
basically unchanged pre number ten year note now hovering at
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four forty actually is less. We were around four forty
one four to forty two before the number. If you
look at what's going on with the yield curve, we
see that the short rates are virtually unchanged. Long rates
are moving down a little more aggressively, and that would
make sense if the inflation data is less than the
worst case scenario the long end reflecting that. And of course,
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we want to pay very close attention to the yield
curve at this point because it really has been about
whether it's steepening or flattening. A lot has to do
with the short maturities and how they relate to the FED. Obviously,
we're not going to get a July rate cut, at
least deemed by market activity and most economists and analysts,
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so we want to watch the complexion of the curve.
I would say that use fifty basis points as your
guide on the difference between tens and twos.
Speaker 5 (02:46):
AI will create or cost jobs, and Mike, you found
it depends on who you.
Speaker 6 (02:52):
Ask, Well, that's right, mikon Joon there from Jensen Wong,
you were hearing the bowl case on AI jobs and
for your viewers just to pull back the camera. This
is one of the most consequential debates of our time.
We've seen him playing out here on Morning Joe on Axios.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
And these changes are.
Speaker 6 (03:13):
Going to affect every town in America, re employer in America,
and then therefore every employee in America. So I spent
an hour with Jensen Wong when he was here in
DC meeting with President Trump. And by the way, breaking
news and video is lifting the whole stock market around
the world this year.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
This morning based on.
Speaker 6 (03:37):
The news last night that they've gotten assurances from the
Trump administration that they're going to be able to sell
their AI chips into China.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
They say they.
Speaker 6 (03:46):
Hoped to start delivering those soon. So a big news
and big deliverable from Jensen Wong's trip to DC. But
we talked to him about what AI is going to
be doing to jobs. And here on Morning Joe, your
viewers heard her Dario Amidae, the CEO of Nthropic, one
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of the biggest AI companies, make claude him saying that
we need to be pragmatic, clear eyed about the fact
that ultimately there may be more jobs, but in the
interim a real disruption, him saying that an employment could
go to twenty percent among entry level white collar jobs.
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Half of entry level white collar jobs will go away.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
And what he's been.
Speaker 6 (04:33):
Saying is that policymakers, employers are just closing their eyes
to this sugar coating it, not facing what's going to happen.
Jensen Wong the other side of the debate, taking the
bowl case, saying, as you saw in that clip, that yes,
everyone's job is going to change, but it's going to
make us more productive.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
So the case he makes is that.
Speaker 6 (04:56):
If we never changed what we did, if we never
had any new idea, is if we never did anything new,
that that other case would be right. And he says
that AI companies are trying to scare us. I put
one of the toughest cases to him. I asked him,
what about a long haul trucker. If I'm a long
haul trucker, I'm screwed right, because there's going to be
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autonomous technology for that will do my work.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
What he said is maybe they don't like that job.
Maybe they would.
Speaker 6 (05:26):
Rather be a short haul trucker who's home with their
family at night and the AI does the driving in between.
And so the bottom line of this is that the
models are becoming more capable faster than employers government are
dealing with it.
Speaker 4 (05:49):
This is the primal screen of a dying regime. Pray
for our enemies, because we're going to medieval on these people.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
Here's not going to free shot all these networks lying
about the people.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
The people have had a belly full of it. I
know you don't like hearing that. I know you tried
to do everything in the world to stop that, but
you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
And where do people like that go to share the
big line? Mega media? I wish in my soul, I
wish that any of these people had a conscience.
Speaker 4 (06:21):
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
If that answer is to save my country, this country
will be saved.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
Here's your host, Stephen k.
Speaker 4 (06:34):
Bat It's Tuesday, fifteen July, Year of Our Lord, twenty
twenty five. The President's going to go and we may
dip in and out of this. Dave McCormick just over
at the Pittsburgh Energy and Innovation Summit. It is about
investments in energy, data centers for artificial intelligence. Also a
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lot of artificial intelligence investments. Think Dave McCormick startoff. We're
talking about eighty billion dollars of investments coming in generally,
I think the Pittsburgh and Western Pennsylvania area on this topic.
We'll grab that President's going to speak I think around
two o'clock in a roundtable. Real Amerks's Voice will cover
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this NonStop. Also eleven o'clock the press conference with the
Andy Biggs is going to tee it up with the
parents demanding justice. We've also got Josh Hawley here. There's
a big hang up on the President's right now, the
President's Recision Bill. Josh Hawlie's also here for a number
of the topics. MTG. The Rules Committee last night did
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not vote out this amendment to have Congress demand the
release or Congress start to release information they've got information
that is available, or demand Justice Department do it on
the Epstein situation, that did not get to the floor,
although I think Ralph Norman voted for it, it didn't pass.
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The Rules Committee didn't come out. MTG's also, I think
her amendment on Ukraine did not come out. Very good
news cornflation out today. It looks like the all as
we kept telling you all the panic of tariff's at
least hasn't hit to date, hasn't been picked up to date.
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At the same time, we have over one hundred million
dollars of tariff revenue that's into the treasury. Big news
there they talked about was Navidia and I think this
is part of the deal. I think this is one
of the silent parts of the deal to make sure
that we get rare earths and process rare earth's as
far as magnets and ball bearings and things that make
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our production economy because the Chinese Communist Party, as we
told you, controls the supply chains. I think the Navidia chip,
which now is not their highest technology chip, but that chip,
which was banned from selling to the CCP, is now
going to be sold to the to the Chinese Communist Party.
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After a meeting with President Trump, We're gonna go shortly
to CERN in Switzerland. We have Joe Allen and Noor
a lot going over there on artificial intelligence on CERN,
also the World Health Organization, and Nora's got things that
she wants to make sure people are attuned to and
talk to a Congressman about that. All being said, and
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we had a great interview last night with Mike Ben's,
we're going to play parts of that. Mike Ben's got
some specific comments for the Attorney General of things she
could do immediately on the Epstein situation. John Solomon, who
broke it on this very show on Friday night, the
investigation by the FBI in the Deep State's a ten
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year program to shut down President Trump. Looks like it's
going forward an investigation. We have recommended a special counselor.
I think Laura Loomer's jumped in there. Other people are
jumped in there, and that special council should also take
over the Epstein, all the Epstein evidence, and should petition
the court. The should petition the court to basically unveil
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all the evidence they've got to unseal it. A lot
of the evidence they are sealed by a federal court.
Recommend the special prosecutor if they take this on, that's
very uncertain, but it looks like a special prosecute I
think will be named John Solomon saying by wendsor or Thursday,
but looks like no later than the end of this
week they will actually announce a special council or special
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prosecutor in this situation President Trump in the Deep State,
And hey, Epstein's just another piece of that, as we've
said over and over again, so to me, it's sure
logically be included. If you take Mike Benz's situation and
what he's talking about on the CIA and other intel,
it makes perfect sense. The Just Department's got many other
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things to do. Anna Paulina Luna, it's going to have
a press conference afterne with Jefferson Jefferson Morley, the great
writer of the Guys following the CIA, very close to
the CIA's involvement in the Kennedy situation. There's breaking news
that she's going to have a press conference at five
o'clock today and we're going to cover that. So it's
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a day of tremendous news and information. That being said,
I have not gotten to the most important thing that's
happened overnight, and it's it's quite disturbing. And President Trump
may be using this and could be very much using
this as a negotiating tactic. But the Financial Times of
London has come out with a story this morning that
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talks about a call that President Trump had and we
knew he had this call. This is the day after
the very poor call that he had with Putin. Let's
just go back over that week, because it's gotten to
us a point here. The week started off with the
Pentagon announcing that and people assumed it was signed off
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by the White House. There's some question about that President Trumps.
They didn't know anything about it, which is pretty shocking
that the gone, looking at our inventories of particularly defensive
surface to air defense capabilities and stripping stuff out of
the Pacific, had basically put a moratorium on sending anything
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else to Ukraine. They were going to we were just
stopping all weapons shipments. That caused a mini firestorm. President
Trump then on Thursday, the third of July, had an
hour and a half or two hour call or maybe
longer with Putin, and he said afterwards it was quite
it was a very disturbing call. We now know more
details about it. I think acxis reported that Putin said, hey, look,
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you took your shot at trying to get to a ceasefire.
We've got it from here. This is really a bilateral situation,
and essentially butt out. We've got this and we're going
to figure this out. President Trump was very disturbed about that.
That evening on the third in Kiev, a massive air
bombardment drones, missiles, eric craft bombardi Kiev and I think
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in one of the worst bombarments the world. President Trump
ververy upset since he had tried to bring peace of
the area, as we've talked about. The next day and
this is what the Financial Time story of this morning
reports the President had a call with Zelensky and according
to the Financial Times and not refuted by the White
House as of yet, and this is with unnamed sources
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White House and personnel that were there and are knowledgeable.
But the phone call said President Trump talk brought up
the topic to Zelenski about long range American missiles and quote, basically,
if we provide these to you can use these to
hit Moscow in Saint Petersburg. And Zelencia said, absolutely, we
can hit Petersburg in Moscow, Saint Petersburg in Moscow, as
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you know. And the article actually lose to this or
many people in the national security apparatus that have been
very concerned about Ukraine's ability to control itself or elements
in the ukra any government's ability to control itself. And
they brought up Spiderweb, which she talked about with Mike
Ben's yesterday about the drone assault on the strategic Triad
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the bombers of Russia, which is, you know, the way
you kind of trip into a nuclear war. Very disturbing
story in the Financial Times. We've got it up on Ghetter.
I think Grace's mouth breathing, imbecile. Grace chung her handle
her brand, amazing brand. Right, Grace has got it up.
We've got a lot to get through this morning. The
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fifty days I did the calculation after the show. Fifty
days from Bastille Day, which was yesterday, would put us
wait for it right on the I think the day
after the day after Labor Day. This is we're hurtling
towards something we may not be able to pull back.
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We'll discuss it all in the.
Speaker 7 (14:52):
War room, America.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
Here's your host, Stephen K.
Speaker 3 (15:02):
Bath.
Speaker 4 (15:06):
Like I said, fifty days is right after Labor Day
and that and I say the confluence of the convergence
of what's going to happen in Persia, because that's far
from over. President Trump stopped the twelve day War with
an incredible military operation, right, I think the most complicated
that's been pulled off since World War Two and brought
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the war to an end. But there's still all types
of activity over there about are they trying to enrich
are they trying to go back? And the Persians are
smack talking. Are they actually in negotiations or not? We
know that the Netanyahu government's number one and the usual
first crowd here is regime change, and that is still
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they're still pushing for that. That the convergence of that
in the fifty days here, and I said it will
converge sometime after Labor Day. You're going to have a
full on engagement in the kinetic part of the Third
World War yesterday also, and I don't think people have
talked about it, but secondary sanctions mean sanctions are people
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that are trading with you. The two biggest trading partners
they have are India, but particularly the Chinese Companists Party.
They give it, they sell a ton to the Chinese
Commanis Party, very little to us, almost nothing or nothing
now since the war, but even very little before Western
Europe with the natural gas. But I assume we're going
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to put one hundred percent tariffs on the CCP somehow,
I don't see that happening. If that happens, then you're
really going to get engaged in. I just don't see
everything that the administration is doing is not decoupling. They're
restricting the Chinese Communist Party, but not decoupling. And we've
shifted our carrier battlegroups essentially from the Pacific to the
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Arabian North Arabian Sea which are still there, and I
think we're getting NATO carrier battlegroups which are not even
carry battlegroups, as NATO carriers are actually going through the
Straits of Malacca to Asian East Asia, which I find
quite bizarre because those carriers are not set up to
fight the type of war you need to defend Taiwan.
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And I realized NATO is trying to show that they're
an ally and involved in helping out and they understand
the CCP's a major issue, but I just don't see it.
I'd rather much rather have them focus on doing what
they should do, which is a European war. This is
a European war that is going to metastasize. That's what
happened in nineteen forty one. You did have a war
in Asia going for years that was brutal, the Japanese
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invasion in Manchuria, then the China, the Rape Nan King.
It was a horrific, horrific conflict, but this had not
metastasized into a World war. The European War was, although bloody,
was fairly contained until Operation Barbarossa in the summer of
nineteen forty one. And of course, in December of nineteen
forty one, the Japanese attack US and then Jeremany declares
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war on US a couple of days later, and you
have a global conflict, the bloodiest global conflict in world history.
This is starting to remind me of the Guns of August,
that you know, all these different kind of elements that
none of which would actually draw you into a massive conflict.
Is we're inextuably being drawn in now President Trump, in
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all likelihood, it looks like he's using this as a
bargaining chip, along with the along with the secondary sanctions.
But yesterday he did get he did jump on the
guy that asked a question that's kind of a logical question.
You're going up the escalatory ladder. What's next? Now he
doesn't want to flip his cards over, but the Russians
seem pretty dug in here. And this is a European problem.
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It's a European problem. We talked about down the campaign
for a president Trump was very adamant it's their problem.
And now he said yesterday five times, it's not Trump's war.
Nothing could be more true. It's not Trump's war, President Trump,
it would never happened. It didn't happen on his watch.
It would have never happened on his watch. Putin would
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have never done this. But by these types of actions,
particularly the shipping of these long range missiles and having
a discussion that's been reported and not refuted by the
White House that hey, that didn't happen, particularly given the
quality of the reporting come out of the Financial Times.
It's concerning now he may be used as a bargainingship
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say hey, we're gonna give them these missiles and they
have the ability to do it, You're gonna get not
just sanctions on yourself, but secondary sanctions, so you have
to come to the negotiating table. I think the KGB's
theory of conflict is quite different than the Western This
is why our greatest military leaders in World War Two
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did not want to get in any kind of tangle
in the blood lens in this part of the world.
They were adamant that we stay out of it. Given
the number of cash or these could bring. So folks
better start paying attention here. As we've warned about on
this show for a while, this is as serious as
it gets. It also shows you goes back to the Epstein.
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This is why I think that's the key that picks
of Locke. We're gonna be doing this press conference live
with Annapoline, Luna and Jefferson Mortley on this really blockbuster
news that she because of her force of personality and
demanding this go forward. There's now been released of information
about the CIA and the Kennedy assassination after all these decades,
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things that were actually hidden and proves at the CIA,
in Angleton and Hoover, at the FBA, all of them
looked the American people in facing completely lied to the
American people. And so I positive that you've had two
coups already, had one against President Kennedy, had one against
President Nixon that was different, had CIA involvement, but was
a judicial judicial revolt by Sirika and jeff Shepherd's amazing
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books back that up. And now you've got the third.
We've announced that there's going to be the FBI is
investigating the entire arc of the deep state trying to
get rid of President Trump. My concern here is that
in the Ukraine, in the Persian situation, you're kind of
playing into the hands of what the deep state wants.
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This is what they want. They want an Empire. Susan Rice.
The other day when we had the layoffs at the
State Department, and by the way, Supreme Court last night
backed up Department of Education. We'll trying to get Mike
Davis on here sometime today back President Trump on the
Department of Education. His Article two powers. He can start
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to take it down. Its to the deck plates, just
like Carrie Lake's doing over in Voice of America. They're
going to be They're really going to take the Department
of Education. Finally, after all those promises and all those decades,
President Trump's got it. The Supreme Court's backed him up.
He's going to do it. The Supreme Court has essentially
given us backing to take apart the deep state if
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we have the political will to do it. The State Department.
The other day, I think there were twelve hundred laots,
mainly in USAA D. They had this huge, you know,
sob session in the lobby where they were plotting people
as they took their plants out in their boxes after
being let go, and Susan Rice put up on Twitter,
this is how this is how America is a superpower dies. Well, no,
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America is a superpower dies because of over extension, thirty
seven trillion dollars in debt, the inability to pay for it,
and quite frankly, the peoples whose sons and daughters are
the cannon fodder for this finally stepping up and say
we don't want to do it. We're not going to
do this anymore. We're not going to have our sons
and daughters die on foreign battlefields for basically a group
of corporatis and Wall Street types in Deep State, they
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have this, this fantasy about an American empire. It's what's
destroyed the country. It's destroyed the country because you're allowed
ten to twenty million illegal alien invaders in on Biden's watch.
Look a look at look at look at what's happening.
If you don't think it's serious of what's going on
in New York in this election, you are dead wrong, right,
you are dead wrong, and you do not understand what's
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happening at these schools, at these colleges. The foot soldiers
they can put out just like the ground game that
we put out with you with the precinct strategy and
with the Trump movement. They've done that now with these
kids who are totally indoctrinated and there's millions more where
they came from. Given the immigration policies we've had. Look
at Los Angeles, they're actively giving money to illegal aliens
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to protect themselves. They're now going to have their own
authorities combat the federal authorities to try to do mass deportations,
mass deportations. They're trying to stare President Trump down and
say it's not going to happen. The war that's the
war that the most important front of this war is
the war here in the United States of America. If
we don't get this right, and we don't do it
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now before the midterm elections and certainly before twenty twenty eight,
it's not going to get done. It has to happen now.
And that's one of the things of the diversions of
our attention. You know, Homeman was there the other day
at the Charlie Kirk conference and gave a great presentation.
But we're still you know, you're still in a you know,
in the best case, a couple of thousand a day,
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you need to hit seven thousand a day to over
four years to get to the ten eight, you know,
to eight nine, ten million on mass deportations is just
not happening. I realized the resources just got to them,
but it is simply not happening. That's the most important
front of the war. At the moment that you're focused
on the mass deportations and a permanent ceiling of the border,
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your tension and efforts now diverted not just to Persia,
to that war, but something that's even more irrelevant to us,
and that is a war on the eastern you know,
the Russian speaking eastern border of Ukraine, where we have
no vital national security interests. I would argue, we have
no national security interests. That's a euro PM problem, it's
a NATO problem. They haven't stood up in yesterday. If
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we have that clip, I'll play in the next segment yesterday,
which it's interesting. This clip hit to me like a bombshell,
and no mainstream medium, very little MAGA media picked it up.
Where Route Mark Route, the Secretary General of the of NATO, says, Hey,
America's you know, you're the global police force, You're the
cop on the beat, You're the police agent for the world,
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and uh, you know you've got to do this. No,
that's exactly what America first has revolted against. We're not
the cop of the world right, that's a globalist mentality,
that's an American empire mentality. That is what has to
be broken here. That's why people like Mike Ben's are
so important right now. Mike Bens kind of lays out
easy steps that can be done immediately on this Epstein
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situation to really start to get some information out, some
vital information out. This is why this special council they're
looking at, I think on this on this needed investigation
into what the deep state did against President Trump to
basically deny him officer first, then thwart his efforts in office,
and finally steal the office from him. You look at that,
that's the arc. It has to be investigated, uh, and
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I think it has to be a adjudicated in a
criminal setting. It's a criminal investigation of the doing. You
have to get a special counsel on there and have
a criminal investigation of it. And I think just to
make sure that we don't spend our wheels and waste time,
give that special prosecutor the Epstein because it's going to
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tie in with much of the intelligence apparatus also foreign
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Speaker 2 (26:55):
Back in a moment, here's your host, Stephen k Back.
Speaker 4 (27:06):
Welcome back, Let's go to let's go. Oh, just a
news on Capitol Hill. We're found this closely rust vote
in the team. They haven't been able to secure even
a enough votes to start the debate on the nine
point four billion dollar recisions package. Our recommendation at President
Trump is just go do the impoundments. If you're just
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going to take this much time and this much brain
damage and have rust vote, I think he's going back
up to Capitol Hill today. You've tried to work with
the House and the Senate enough in these recisions. Either
do pocket recisions or just impound the money and let's
go to court on your Article two powers. The courts
are backing you up. Both at the state Department Department
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of Education. This Department of Education State Department ruling is massive.
It reinforces President Trump's Article two powers to be Chief
Executive Officer of the government and to let people go
in Department Education. They're going to take apart brick by brick.
So the same with the money his Article two powers,
I think to spend it. It's such. Look this a
nine point four being do a package that's supposed to
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be symbolic, and they came and get the fifty one
votes to get a debate, much less to get a
to try to get this passed. Maybe, well, we'll keep
you updated on that. Let's go to CERN Switzerland. First off,
Joe Allen, why are you incernu? And why don't we
mention that name? What is it? Why don't we mention
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that name? Many in the war and posse think that
you're going to get evaporated, sir.
Speaker 7 (28:36):
Well, Steve, you know, as you're fond of saying, let's
go to the sublime from the less sublime. Behind me
is a monument to light, especially the speed of light.
And further back beyond your line of sight are detection
systems for figuring out what sorts of properties matter has
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from smashing particles together. Right now in the systems below
our feet, going out into the mountains and out to
the Lake lach lamand there are hundreds of billions of
protons spinning at near the speed of light and smashing
into each other. The idea is to figure out the
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properties of the matter. But the ultimate idea, and many
would say that is why CERN is in some sense
a temple to the religion of science. The ultimate idea
is to figure out what the early universe look like
as in the first few seconds of the early universe.
Beyond that, I think that the spiritual significance of this
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is only overshadowed by the monetary significance because there's a
ton of money getting poured into all of this, including
from the US.
Speaker 4 (29:50):
What is the yeah, yeah, talk to us about that.
What with the money is there for the research? What
is the purpose of the what is the purpose of
the state of purpose of the research?
Speaker 7 (30:02):
You know, like I say, the particle accelerator below our
feet here is designed to basically smash subatomic particles together,
protons in particular, And the more of them you smash together,
the more they put off smaller subatomic particles, quarks, leptons,
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things like that, muons and the Higgs boson, right, the
so called god particle. The ultimate idea again is to
try to get at the secrets of the universe, the
deepest secrets of the universe. What did the universe look
like during the first few moments of the Big Bang?
Now you might say I don't care, and many people
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who are sensible would probably say the same. But if
you are a scientist who believes in nothing more than science,
there's really nothing more precious than that last.
Speaker 8 (30:56):
Little bit of data.
Speaker 7 (30:58):
You know, if there's one thing we cover all time, Steve,
it is the the kind of religious significance of data
for the techno class, and that last bit of data.
Speaker 8 (31:08):
What did the early universe look like?
Speaker 7 (31:10):
Well, supposedly they're discovering it beneath our feet, but you know,
the coffee is pretty expensive.
Speaker 8 (31:16):
That's probably an indicative of some of the costs.
Speaker 4 (31:22):
What is norton? What is the fear? Why? Why have people?
I don't know, if we have the clip, maybe my
staff can dig it up on this ceremony. Didn't they
have a ceremony? Oh there? I think a couple of
years ago when they'll put a new if we could
pull that, if my crack staff here could pull that clip,
maybe we'll play that. What is the the fear of
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the nationalists or the populist nationalist movement or you know
it so well? On an international basis, have a have
a hesitancy. This is supposed to be a temple for
the highest form of science. Remember in the in the
science and particularly saw the movie Oppenheimer. Uh, the physicist
can consider themselves the high priest of science. Everything else
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they kind of consider are poets. This is a temple
to the high priest of science, and in the physicists
and the subatomic particle in various endeavors like that. Why
are people, many people so concerned about what goes on there?
And certainly some of the events that have taken around
taken place around there, particularly this opening they had a
(32:27):
couple of years ago. Ma'am.
Speaker 5 (32:30):
Well, there are many theories, not to say conspiracy theories
surrounding the SERN itself, just like many of these international
globalist institutions. But I would say that the recurring one
is that underneath our feet, as Joe mentioned, there are
these experiments taking place, and the fear is that there
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will be a huge black hole that will be created
and that will engulf us all. But on a more
pragmatic level, I would just say that what is not
a conspiracy is that all of these institutions are essentially
black holes for all of our taxpayer money.
Speaker 7 (33:07):
If I could add to that, Steve, that incident you're
talking about that was August of twenty sixteen, there was
a recording of one of the areas here, apparently near
where the interns stay, where they have a giant statue
to Shiva, the expression of God as.
Speaker 8 (33:26):
Destroyer for the Hindus, and some of the.
Speaker 7 (33:29):
Employees here got together in black robes and conducted what
I believe was a mock human sacrifice on film.
Speaker 8 (33:37):
And they say that it's just a prank.
Speaker 7 (33:40):
I asked a few people here, asked our guide in particular.
He did not seem too pleased with the question. I
thought it was simply a playful question.
Speaker 5 (33:50):
He did not think so very much off limits topic.
And we are not able to visit that part of cern.
The complex of Stern is actually very and that particular
zone is off limits.
Speaker 4 (34:05):
And by the way, yeah, I think that's.
Speaker 5 (34:09):
The Guitard tunnel. That's something else. That's actually also a
ceremony that took place in Switzerland a few years back.
It was for the opening of the Goutard tunnel, so
that's actually not what took place here at Stern. But
many of these ceremonies are infused with absolutely demonic and
(34:30):
satanic themes. Whether you look at this video, the Stern video,
the Olympics, obviously the latest Olympics in Paris, the twenty
twelve Olympics in London, which eerily enough had predictive programming
scenes of a future pandemic. So they like to put
in all of this imagery to to let us know
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what is coming. I guess, Joe, either that or.
Speaker 8 (34:56):
They're very very good at anticipating in the future.
Speaker 4 (35:00):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, Joe. When you say Shiva, isn't that
didn't Oppenheimer use that quote about the destroyer at the
very moment in the Trinity experiment when the bomb went
off on the on the the the test bomb went
off in in New Mexico and they had the platform,
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they were a couple of miles away. At the very
moment they realized it work, because there's a big question
whether it's going to work. He actually did that famous
quote from the from the Hindu religion, Sir, which is
about Shiva being the destroyer of all.
Speaker 7 (35:35):
Yes, so interestingly, you know, Stephen, my travels. I was
just out at White Sands where they detonated the bomb.
Speaker 8 (35:42):
Very eerie. The silence is existential, you might say.
Speaker 6 (35:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (35:47):
Oppenheimer of course taught himself Sanskrit because he was so
obsessed with the various kinds of images of technological weaponry
that one finds in the Mahabrada and in the Baga
about Ghita. As you say, you have Shiva appearing as Kali,
the goddess of death, were just as death. And so
(36:09):
in that statement, as he watched the first man made
nuclear explosion over that desert, he said that the Sanskrit
lines from the Bagavad Gita came to his mind. I
am become death, destroyer of worlds. I am become Khali,
I am become time black. And aside from whatever is
(36:30):
going on in these near light speed particles whizzing beneath
our feet, I think that it not only sends a
chill down the spine, given the crisis we now face
in the midst of what seems to be the Third
World War, but artificial intelligence should give people a similar
sense of unease that maybe we're dealing with something far
(36:52):
beyond our ability to control.
Speaker 4 (36:57):
Okay, so later today this ties it both together. You
had this very disturbing article in the Financial Times of London,
and the White House has not come out at least
I asked my crack staff here. I don't think they've
come out right now and refuted it. It is folks.
We have it up on Getter and I think Grace
has done it so that that everybody can read it,
(37:17):
and if you don't subscribe to the Financial Times of London.
But it's very disturbing about a conversation President Trump had
with Zelensky about the long range missiles and could they
actually hit Saint Petersburg and Moscow. And it talks about
a group of American officials that have been very focused
on quote unquote taking the war to the Muscovites. You know,
(37:41):
Putin has I think addressed as late as last week
about taking down the threshold for using tactical nuclear weapons
in Ukraine if they run into some problems with NATO.
You couple that with in Pittsburgh today and this is
a great investment in America and try the reindustrialization of
our heartland, and that's why they've chosen Pittsburgh, and I
(38:03):
think they have a reindustrialization conference in Detroit starting I
think today and tomorrow also. Both of these though, are
very much focused on artificial intelligence, and there's eighty billion
dollars of investment in that as we know. And Daria,
I've talked to a number of people at the senior
level of some of these the leaders in artificial intelligence,
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and they're quite concerned about the driving force of this.
Joe is still a lot of it is you know,
Pentagon in military use. You saw yesterday where Groc let's
say this contract. I'm here to tell you that is
absolutely not one true right, particularly given the problems Groc
has had. But that is a contract of two entndred
(38:47):
million dollars that I think is going to be led
for a number of AI initiatives. But Joe, the Pentagon
is at the cutting edge of driving artificial intelligence. And
this is why the Navidia released today has got some
people concerned, because the Chinese Communist Party is trying to
weaponize artificial intelligence more rapidly than even the American defense community.
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Your thoughts sir, we got about a minute before you
go to break.
Speaker 7 (39:16):
In this very short time, I'll simply say that people
should right now go and look up Super Intelligence Strategy
by Dan Hendrix, Eric Schmidt, Yeah, I know, and Alexander Wang.
Speaker 8 (39:29):
I think that will really give you a sense of
why it is.
Speaker 7 (39:31):
So important that we not feed the Chinese chips data
IP any of it.
Speaker 4 (39:41):
Guys, can you hang around? I got a lot more
to get to. Senator Hawley's going to join us. MTG's
going to join us. But I got a lot more
I want to discuss with you guys at CERN, including
more artificial intelligence, more aspects ofscerned and nor ben Laden's favorite,
the World Health Organization and what's happening over there. For
Frank Gaffney had a really good Frank Afney minute this morning.
(40:02):
I've given it to Nor and want her observations and comments.
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Speaker 2 (40:54):
Back in a moment, here's your hosts, Stephen k back.
Speaker 4 (41:05):
Okay, welcome back. Election Wizard, which goes against these clips
all the time, is reporting now breaking news from the
White House. This is from the White House. Financial Times
misconstrued President Trump's statement to Zelensky. We don't anythink deeper
in that, but I knew if we put it up
and made today item that we might get a response
to this. Because of response is needed, I hope the
(41:27):
White House pushes back on this herd and really clarifies
for President Trump said, Uh. Senator Hawley, in fact, your
your thoughts and observations of yesterday, with the announcement of
the of the selling to NATO of long range offensive
missiles to the Ukrainians. I know you've been a pretty
you've been a big skeptic about this entire Ukraine situation
(41:50):
from the beginning.
Speaker 3 (41:51):
Sir, yeah, I have. You know, here's my view on this.
If if we're going to be sending more arms to Ukraine,
I'm glad that we're getting paid for them. I mean,
that's think an important point here. I don't think that
we should be just doing this grost Us. We spend
hundreds of billions of dollars, as you know, Steve, sending
weapons to Ukraine. I mean, you just think about what
would that do for veterans healthcare in our country? What
(42:11):
would that do for working people in our country? So
I think we need to start driving a lot tougher bargain.
The President now saying we're going to get compensated for
any weapons that we send. I think it's a good
first step. I continue to believe, however, that we need
to say to our NATO allies in Europe that guys, really,
this continent has got to be your responsibility. In the
first instance, they have got to step up and do
(42:33):
a heck of a lot more than they are doing
and the President got them to increase their defense spending,
which is a huge victory, but I think we need
to have them do even more. And I just continue
to be concerned Steve, that we don't want to get
embroiled in a long term, forever war on the continent
of Europe. The President, I think, wants to bring this
war to a conclusion. Putin needs to be put back
(42:56):
into his box. But the Europeans, they've got to take
the lead in doing that, vers responsible for it.
Speaker 4 (43:02):
Your constituents in Missouri, are you know, overrepresented in the
military in volunteering his patriots. What's the sense of your
folks back in your home state about this situation.
Speaker 3 (43:14):
Well, nobody wants to see troops on the ground. I mean,
think about our folks who are actually there, I mean
in the service, we're in the uniform. Nobody wants to
see American troops on the ground here. And this is
something that I've always been concerned with, particularly frankly under
the last administration, because it has sounded for a long
time to me a lot like Vietnam, where we start
sending first we send weapons, and then we send advisors.
(43:34):
And I think we're all ready at that point, Steve,
and then pretty soon after that it becomes well, you know,
we need to actually send troops just to make sure,
and then pretty soon we're completely embroiled in it. So
you know, I trust President Trump. I think he will.
I'm confident he would never want to see American troops
on the ground. I can't imagine that. I'm glad he's
getting us paid for the weapons. I think we've got
to is I was just saying, I think we've got
(43:56):
though to push hard here to get the Europeans stepping
up and actually taking the lead on this. This is
their continent. And the truth is, if you look at
our threats overseas, put aside our border for the second,
which is our biggest immediate threat, but if you look
overseas at our threats there, it is China in the
Asia Pacific that is our biggest threat. Russia is second
(44:17):
to that. And we've got to focus where our biggest
overseas threat is, and right now that's China, which means
our European allies. They're the ones who really got to
do more here.
Speaker 4 (44:29):
I want to make sure we get to two things
before you get a bounce, and appreciate the time. Number one,
you've been all over this auto pen situation. It's just
becoming now front page news. What in the hell's going on?
And what can you do about it?
Speaker 3 (44:41):
Well, what happens to happen? A couple of things. I mean,
First of all, we need to call the person. We
now have the name of the person who managed the
autopen under Biden. I believe it's the individual's a woman.
She needs to be called before Congress, put under oath,
testify in public. We need to hear from her. We
need to know exactly what did he authorize? When did
he authorize? Is I suspect the truth is Steve, he
(45:02):
didn't authorize anything, which would be like the scandal of
the century. We need to know that. Number two, there
is supposed to be a paper trail. You know, we
had a hearing on this in the Senate a couple
of weeks ago. To me, the big revelation out of
that hearing was every time the autopen is used, there's
supposed to be an explicit paper trail. The president has
to at a minimum give verbal consent to use it,
(45:24):
and a record is made of that. So let's get
all the documents. Let's see them. They should be in
Biden's archives. They ought to be in his papers. We
need to go get them. If Biden's not going to
release them voluntarily, Congress ought to subpoena those documents and
get them and put them out in public. Where's the
paper trail? Who authorized the use of the pen? That's
what we need to be getting after.
Speaker 4 (45:47):
I think you're right. The scale of the scandal here
is pretty mind boggling. If he didn't really know, and
it doesn't seem like he did. Another scandal that you've
been at the front of pushing to get some answers
is the FPI five on the President Trump's one year
anniversary of the assassination attempt. It's kind of stunning. We
don't really know a lot about this guy. We don't
(46:08):
know the family. The father hasn't been arrested or charge.
It's pretty stunning even the investigation. But we don't really
have any records. What is your recommendation there?
Speaker 3 (46:19):
My recommendation is we declassify Homeland Security. Department of Homeland
Security declassify all of the records relating to the Butler
assassination attempt and this guy, Thomas Matthew Crooks. We need
to know everything there is to know about it. Here's
the deal, Steve. A year on from this thing where
the president's nearly killed on national television, it's a miracle
of God that he survives. A year after this, still
(46:41):
pretty much most of what we know is based on whistleblowers,
and I want to thank again the brave whistleblowers. I
talked to so many of them over the last year
who came forward to me and to other offices. But
I think we had more than anybody Secret Service, FBI,
Homeland Security who came forward and gave us a picture
of what was going on. But Steve that the travesty
is A year later. Were it not for those whistleblowers,
(47:03):
I think we'd still know basically nothing. That really is
just not acceptable. And so I would just call on
the Homeland Security Department Secretary Nome. She's a great patriot.
I would call on her to declassify all of the information.
We need to see all of it. And you know what,
if that makes some people look bad, so be it.
We may need to do some house cleaning. And the
(47:23):
fact that nobody has been fired, nobody at Secret Service.
You just about lost to president twice actually, and nobody
has been fired. Boy, there's a problem.
Speaker 4 (47:35):
Real quickly. We only get about a minute. I just
want to make sure you're saying all the vital information
that we really have would come from whistleblowers and not
the official apparatus itself.
Speaker 3 (47:45):
Correct. Yeah, that's correct. Almost you look at the reports.
There's a recent report out from the Homeland Security Committee,
came out a couple of days ago. Almost all of
that information was initially given to us by whistleblowers. It
was whistleblowers who told us that the roof of the
AGR building was abandoned, and they were right. Whistleblowers who
said the Secret Service refused the offer of drones from
(48:05):
local law enforcement. I'll just be honest with you, Steve.
It was a local law enforcement agent who told me that,
And you know what, that was exactly correct. Secret Service
did refuse drone help. Whistleblowers told us that there weren't
there were not going to be counter snipers. Secret Service
wasn't even planning to send them. That turns out to
be correct. All of the stuff we know from whistleblowers,
where are the official records. It's time we get the
(48:26):
official stuff and everything you know his apps. Thomas Crooks's
apps now have been accessed by FBI. Let's see it.
We're not going to prosecute the guy. He's dead. Let's
see all the information.
Speaker 4 (48:39):
A Senator, where do people go to get you? Where
your social media?
Speaker 3 (48:43):
Holly mo is my Twitter handle, Same for Instagram, Facebook,
you can go to Josh Holly dot com as always
thinks for having with Steve
Speaker 4 (48:52):
Senator, thank you very much for car aps the Time
Force
Yes, this is our June read on CPI, the Consumer
Price Inflationary Guide, and it is a little warmer than
expected on year over year, but headline looks good. Up
three tenths as expected.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
That does follow up one tenth.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
Up three tenths will be the second warmest of the year.
January was the warmest. That up half one percent. This
is as expected, but two tenths hotter than the rearview mirror.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
If we strip out food and energy.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
Comes in a tenth cooler than expectations, up two tenths.
We're expecting up three in the rearview mirror was up
one tenth. Up two tenths equals where we were in April.
To find a higher number, you're going once again back
to January, the high watermark for the year. Up four tenths. Now,
let's go year over year year over year headline this
doesn't include this includes food and energy is up two
(00:49):
point seven. That's one tenth hotter than we are expecting.
It's three tenths hotter than our last look at two
point four. And how does it come two point seven
would be the highest read since Januyanuary February. February was
two point eight. January is three point zero, So even
though it's less than it us at the beginning the year,
it did warm up just a bit. And finally, if
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we go year over year ex food and energy, arguably
in my opinion, one of the most important numbers, it
comes in at two point nine, exactly as expected, but
it is one tenth hotter than the rearview mirror, which
was two point eight.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
Two point nine.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Well, it would be the warmest read since February. Once again,
you had January and February three point three and three
point one, respectively.
Speaker 4 (01:32):
So even though we have made.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
Progress from the beginning of the year when numbers were higher,
we do see a little bump on the year over year.
Maybe the best news is the monthly core number up
two tenths. It certainly seems though the market was expecting
this or worse because interest rates initially moved lower. We're
basically unchanged pre number ten year note now hovering at
(01:54):
four forty actually is less. We were around four forty
one four to forty two before the number. If you
look at what's going on with the yield curve, we
see that the short rates are virtually unchanged. Long rates
are moving down a little more aggressively, and that would
make sense if the inflation data is less than the
worst case scenario the long end reflecting that. And of course,
(02:16):
we want to pay very close attention to the yield
curve at this point because it really has been about
whether it's steepening or flattening. A lot has to do
with the short maturities and how they relate to the FED. Obviously,
we're not going to get a July rate cut, at
least deemed by market activity and most economists and analysts,
(02:36):
so we want to watch the complexion of the curve.
I would say that use fifty basis points as your
guide on the difference between tens and twos.
Speaker 5 (02:46):
AI will create or cost jobs, and Mike, you found
it depends on who you.
Speaker 6 (02:52):
Ask, Well, that's right, mikon Joon there from Jensen Wong,
you were hearing the bowl case on AI jobs and
for your viewers just to pull back the camera. This
is one of the most consequential debates of our time.
We've seen him playing out here on Morning Joe on Axios.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
And these changes are.
Speaker 6 (03:13):
Going to affect every town in America, re employer in America,
and then therefore every employee in America. So I spent
an hour with Jensen Wong when he was here in
DC meeting with President Trump. And by the way, breaking
news and video is lifting the whole stock market around
the world this year.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
This morning based on.
Speaker 6 (03:37):
The news last night that they've gotten assurances from the
Trump administration that they're going to be able to sell
their AI chips into China.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
They say they.
Speaker 6 (03:46):
Hoped to start delivering those soon. So a big news
and big deliverable from Jensen Wong's trip to DC. But
we talked to him about what AI is going to
be doing to jobs. And here on Morning Joe, your
viewers heard her Dario Amidae, the CEO of Nthropic, one
(04:07):
of the biggest AI companies, make claude him saying that
we need to be pragmatic, clear eyed about the fact
that ultimately there may be more jobs, but in the
interim a real disruption, him saying that an employment could
go to twenty percent among entry level white collar jobs.
(04:28):
Half of entry level white collar jobs will go away.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
And what he's been.
Speaker 6 (04:33):
Saying is that policymakers, employers are just closing their eyes
to this sugar coating it, not facing what's going to happen.
Jensen Wong the other side of the debate, taking the
bowl case, saying, as you saw in that clip, that yes,
everyone's job is going to change, but it's going to
make us more productive.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
So the case he makes is that.
Speaker 6 (04:56):
If we never changed what we did, if we never
had any new idea, is if we never did anything new,
that that other case would be right. And he says
that AI companies are trying to scare us. I put
one of the toughest cases to him. I asked him,
what about a long haul trucker. If I'm a long
haul trucker, I'm screwed right, because there's going to be
(05:18):
autonomous technology for that will do my work.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
What he said is maybe they don't like that job.
Maybe they would.
Speaker 6 (05:26):
Rather be a short haul trucker who's home with their
family at night and the AI does the driving in between.
And so the bottom line of this is that the
models are becoming more capable faster than employers government are
dealing with it.
Speaker 4 (05:49):
This is the primal screen of a dying regime. Pray
for our enemies, because we're going to medieval on these people.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
Here's not going to free shot all these networks lying
about the people.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
The people have had a belly full of it. I
know you don't like hearing that. I know you tried
to do everything in the world to stop that, but
you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
And where do people like that go to share the
big line? Mega media? I wish in my soul, I
wish that any of these people had a conscience.
Speaker 4 (06:21):
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
If that answer is to save my country, this country
will be saved.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
Here's your host, Stephen k.
Speaker 4 (06:34):
Bat It's Tuesday, fifteen July, Year of Our Lord, twenty
twenty five. The President's going to go and we may
dip in and out of this. Dave McCormick just over
at the Pittsburgh Energy and Innovation Summit. It is about
investments in energy, data centers for artificial intelligence. Also a
(06:57):
lot of artificial intelligence investments. Think Dave McCormick startoff. We're
talking about eighty billion dollars of investments coming in generally,
I think the Pittsburgh and Western Pennsylvania area on this topic.
We'll grab that President's going to speak I think around
two o'clock in a roundtable. Real Amerks's Voice will cover
(07:18):
this NonStop. Also eleven o'clock the press conference with the
Andy Biggs is going to tee it up with the
parents demanding justice. We've also got Josh Hawley here. There's
a big hang up on the President's right now, the
President's Recision Bill. Josh Hawlie's also here for a number
of the topics. MTG. The Rules Committee last night did
(07:39):
not vote out this amendment to have Congress demand the
release or Congress start to release information they've got information
that is available, or demand Justice Department do it on
the Epstein situation, that did not get to the floor,
although I think Ralph Norman voted for it, it didn't pass.
(07:59):
The Rules Committee didn't come out. MTG's also, I think
her amendment on Ukraine did not come out. Very good
news cornflation out today. It looks like the all as
we kept telling you all the panic of tariff's at
least hasn't hit to date, hasn't been picked up to date.
(08:21):
At the same time, we have over one hundred million
dollars of tariff revenue that's into the treasury. Big news
there they talked about was Navidia and I think this
is part of the deal. I think this is one
of the silent parts of the deal to make sure
that we get rare earths and process rare earth's as
far as magnets and ball bearings and things that make
(08:42):
our production economy because the Chinese Communist Party, as we
told you, controls the supply chains. I think the Navidia chip,
which now is not their highest technology chip, but that chip,
which was banned from selling to the CCP, is now
going to be sold to the to the Chinese Communist Party.
(09:02):
After a meeting with President Trump, We're gonna go shortly
to CERN in Switzerland. We have Joe Allen and Noor
a lot going over there on artificial intelligence on CERN,
also the World Health Organization, and Nora's got things that
she wants to make sure people are attuned to and
talk to a Congressman about that. All being said, and
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we had a great interview last night with Mike Ben's,
we're going to play parts of that. Mike Ben's got
some specific comments for the Attorney General of things she
could do immediately on the Epstein situation. John Solomon, who
broke it on this very show on Friday night, the
investigation by the FBI in the Deep State's a ten
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year program to shut down President Trump. Looks like it's
going forward an investigation. We have recommended a special counselor.
I think Laura Loomer's jumped in there. Other people are
jumped in there, and that special council should also take
over the Epstein, all the Epstein evidence, and should petition
the court. The should petition the court to basically unveil
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all the evidence they've got to unseal it. A lot
of the evidence they are sealed by a federal court.
Recommend the special prosecutor if they take this on, that's
very uncertain, but it looks like a special prosecute I
think will be named John Solomon saying by wendsor or Thursday,
but looks like no later than the end of this
week they will actually announce a special council or special
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prosecutor in this situation President Trump in the Deep State,
And hey, Epstein's just another piece of that, as we've
said over and over again, so to me, it's sure
logically be included. If you take Mike Benz's situation and
what he's talking about on the CIA and other intel,
it makes perfect sense. The Just Department's got many other
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things to do. Anna Paulina Luna, it's going to have
a press conference afterne with Jefferson Jefferson Morley, the great
writer of the Guys following the CIA, very close to
the CIA's involvement in the Kennedy situation. There's breaking news
that she's going to have a press conference at five
o'clock today and we're going to cover that. So it's
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a day of tremendous news and information. That being said,
I have not gotten to the most important thing that's
happened overnight, and it's it's quite disturbing. And President Trump
may be using this and could be very much using
this as a negotiating tactic. But the Financial Times of
London has come out with a story this morning that
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talks about a call that President Trump had and we
knew he had this call. This is the day after
the very poor call that he had with Putin. Let's
just go back over that week, because it's gotten to
us a point here. The week started off with the
Pentagon announcing that and people assumed it was signed off
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by the White House. There's some question about that President Trumps.
They didn't know anything about it, which is pretty shocking
that the gone, looking at our inventories of particularly defensive
surface to air defense capabilities and stripping stuff out of
the Pacific, had basically put a moratorium on sending anything
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else to Ukraine. They were going to we were just
stopping all weapons shipments. That caused a mini firestorm. President
Trump then on Thursday, the third of July, had an
hour and a half or two hour call or maybe
longer with Putin, and he said afterwards it was quite
it was a very disturbing call. We now know more
details about it. I think acxis reported that Putin said, hey, look,
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you took your shot at trying to get to a ceasefire.
We've got it from here. This is really a bilateral situation,
and essentially butt out. We've got this and we're going
to figure this out. President Trump was very disturbed about that.
That evening on the third in Kiev, a massive air
bombardment drones, missiles, eric craft bombardi Kiev and I think
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in one of the worst bombarments the world. President Trump
ververy upset since he had tried to bring peace of
the area, as we've talked about. The next day and
this is what the Financial Time story of this morning
reports the President had a call with Zelensky and according
to the Financial Times and not refuted by the White
House as of yet, and this is with unnamed sources
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White House and personnel that were there and are knowledgeable.
But the phone call said President Trump talk brought up
the topic to Zelenski about long range American missiles and quote, basically,
if we provide these to you can use these to
hit Moscow in Saint Petersburg. And Zelencia said, absolutely, we
can hit Petersburg in Moscow, Saint Petersburg in Moscow, as
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you know. And the article actually lose to this or
many people in the national security apparatus that have been
very concerned about Ukraine's ability to control itself or elements
in the ukra any government's ability to control itself. And
they brought up Spiderweb, which she talked about with Mike
Ben's yesterday about the drone assault on the strategic Triad
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the bombers of Russia, which is, you know, the way
you kind of trip into a nuclear war. Very disturbing
story in the Financial Times. We've got it up on Ghetter.
I think Grace's mouth breathing, imbecile. Grace chung her handle
her brand, amazing brand. Right, Grace has got it up.
We've got a lot to get through this morning. The
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fifty days I did the calculation after the show. Fifty
days from Bastille Day, which was yesterday, would put us
wait for it right on the I think the day
after the day after Labor Day. This is we're hurtling
towards something we may not be able to pull back.
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We'll discuss it all in the.
Speaker 7 (14:52):
War room, America.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
Here's your host, Stephen K.
Speaker 3 (15:02):
Bath.
Speaker 4 (15:06):
Like I said, fifty days is right after Labor Day
and that and I say the confluence of the convergence
of what's going to happen in Persia, because that's far
from over. President Trump stopped the twelve day War with
an incredible military operation, right, I think the most complicated
that's been pulled off since World War Two and brought
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the war to an end. But there's still all types
of activity over there about are they trying to enrich
are they trying to go back? And the Persians are
smack talking. Are they actually in negotiations or not? We
know that the Netanyahu government's number one and the usual
first crowd here is regime change, and that is still
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they're still pushing for that. That the convergence of that
in the fifty days here, and I said it will
converge sometime after Labor Day. You're going to have a
full on engagement in the kinetic part of the Third
World War yesterday also, and I don't think people have
talked about it, but secondary sanctions mean sanctions are people
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that are trading with you. The two biggest trading partners
they have are India, but particularly the Chinese Companists Party.
They give it, they sell a ton to the Chinese
Commanis Party, very little to us, almost nothing or nothing
now since the war, but even very little before Western
Europe with the natural gas. But I assume we're going
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to put one hundred percent tariffs on the CCP somehow,
I don't see that happening. If that happens, then you're
really going to get engaged in. I just don't see
everything that the administration is doing is not decoupling. They're
restricting the Chinese Communist Party, but not decoupling. And we've
shifted our carrier battlegroups essentially from the Pacific to the
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Arabian North Arabian Sea which are still there, and I
think we're getting NATO carrier battlegroups which are not even
carry battlegroups, as NATO carriers are actually going through the
Straits of Malacca to Asian East Asia, which I find
quite bizarre because those carriers are not set up to
fight the type of war you need to defend Taiwan.
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And I realized NATO is trying to show that they're
an ally and involved in helping out and they understand
the CCP's a major issue, but I just don't see it.
I'd rather much rather have them focus on doing what
they should do, which is a European war. This is
a European war that is going to metastasize. That's what
happened in nineteen forty one. You did have a war
in Asia going for years that was brutal, the Japanese
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invasion in Manchuria, then the China, the Rape Nan King.
It was a horrific, horrific conflict, but this had not
metastasized into a World war. The European War was, although bloody,
was fairly contained until Operation Barbarossa in the summer of
nineteen forty one. And of course, in December of nineteen
forty one, the Japanese attack US and then Jeremany declares
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war on US a couple of days later, and you
have a global conflict, the bloodiest global conflict in world history.
This is starting to remind me of the Guns of August,
that you know, all these different kind of elements that
none of which would actually draw you into a massive conflict.
Is we're inextuably being drawn in now President Trump, in
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all likelihood, it looks like he's using this as a
bargaining chip, along with the along with the secondary sanctions.
But yesterday he did get he did jump on the
guy that asked a question that's kind of a logical question.
You're going up the escalatory ladder. What's next? Now he
doesn't want to flip his cards over, but the Russians
seem pretty dug in here. And this is a European problem.
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It's a European problem. We talked about down the campaign
for a president Trump was very adamant it's their problem.
And now he said yesterday five times, it's not Trump's war.
Nothing could be more true. It's not Trump's war, President Trump,
it would never happened. It didn't happen on his watch.
It would have never happened on his watch. Putin would
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have never done this. But by these types of actions,
particularly the shipping of these long range missiles and having
a discussion that's been reported and not refuted by the
White House that hey, that didn't happen, particularly given the
quality of the reporting come out of the Financial Times.
It's concerning now he may be used as a bargainingship
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say hey, we're gonna give them these missiles and they
have the ability to do it, You're gonna get not
just sanctions on yourself, but secondary sanctions, so you have
to come to the negotiating table. I think the KGB's
theory of conflict is quite different than the Western This
is why our greatest military leaders in World War Two
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did not want to get in any kind of tangle
in the blood lens in this part of the world.
They were adamant that we stay out of it. Given
the number of cash or these could bring. So folks
better start paying attention here. As we've warned about on
this show for a while, this is as serious as
it gets. It also shows you goes back to the Epstein.
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This is why I think that's the key that picks
of Locke. We're gonna be doing this press conference live
with Annapoline, Luna and Jefferson Mortley on this really blockbuster
news that she because of her force of personality and
demanding this go forward. There's now been released of information
about the CIA and the Kennedy assassination after all these decades,
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things that were actually hidden and proves at the CIA,
in Angleton and Hoover, at the FBA, all of them
looked the American people in facing completely lied to the
American people. And so I positive that you've had two
coups already, had one against President Kennedy, had one against
President Nixon that was different, had CIA involvement, but was
a judicial judicial revolt by Sirika and jeff Shepherd's amazing
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books back that up. And now you've got the third.
We've announced that there's going to be the FBI is
investigating the entire arc of the deep state trying to
get rid of President Trump. My concern here is that
in the Ukraine, in the Persian situation, you're kind of
playing into the hands of what the deep state wants.
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This is what they want. They want an Empire. Susan Rice.
The other day when we had the layoffs at the
State Department, and by the way, Supreme Court last night
backed up Department of Education. We'll trying to get Mike
Davis on here sometime today back President Trump on the
Department of Education. His Article two powers. He can start
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to take it down. Its to the deck plates, just
like Carrie Lake's doing over in Voice of America. They're
going to be They're really going to take the Department
of Education. Finally, after all those promises and all those decades,
President Trump's got it. The Supreme Court's backed him up.
He's going to do it. The Supreme Court has essentially
given us backing to take apart the deep state if
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we have the political will to do it. The State Department.
The other day, I think there were twelve hundred laots,
mainly in USAA D. They had this huge, you know,
sob session in the lobby where they were plotting people
as they took their plants out in their boxes after
being let go, and Susan Rice put up on Twitter,
this is how this is how America is a superpower dies. Well, no,
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America is a superpower dies because of over extension, thirty
seven trillion dollars in debt, the inability to pay for it,
and quite frankly, the peoples whose sons and daughters are
the cannon fodder for this finally stepping up and say
we don't want to do it. We're not going to
do this anymore. We're not going to have our sons
and daughters die on foreign battlefields for basically a group
of corporatis and Wall Street types in Deep State, they
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have this, this fantasy about an American empire. It's what's
destroyed the country. It's destroyed the country because you're allowed
ten to twenty million illegal alien invaders in on Biden's watch.
Look a look at look at look at what's happening.
If you don't think it's serious of what's going on
in New York in this election, you are dead wrong, right,
you are dead wrong, and you do not understand what's
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happening at these schools, at these colleges. The foot soldiers
they can put out just like the ground game that
we put out with you with the precinct strategy and
with the Trump movement. They've done that now with these
kids who are totally indoctrinated and there's millions more where
they came from. Given the immigration policies we've had. Look
at Los Angeles, they're actively giving money to illegal aliens
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to protect themselves. They're now going to have their own
authorities combat the federal authorities to try to do mass deportations,
mass deportations. They're trying to stare President Trump down and
say it's not going to happen. The war that's the
war that the most important front of this war is
the war here in the United States of America. If
we don't get this right, and we don't do it
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now before the midterm elections and certainly before twenty twenty eight,
it's not going to get done. It has to happen now.
And that's one of the things of the diversions of
our attention. You know, Homeman was there the other day
at the Charlie Kirk conference and gave a great presentation.
But we're still you know, you're still in a you know,
in the best case, a couple of thousand a day,
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you need to hit seven thousand a day to over
four years to get to the ten eight, you know,
to eight nine, ten million on mass deportations is just
not happening. I realized the resources just got to them,
but it is simply not happening. That's the most important
front of the war. At the moment that you're focused
on the mass deportations and a permanent ceiling of the border,
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your tension and efforts now diverted not just to Persia,
to that war, but something that's even more irrelevant to us,
and that is a war on the eastern you know,
the Russian speaking eastern border of Ukraine, where we have
no vital national security interests. I would argue, we have
no national security interests. That's a euro PM problem, it's
a NATO problem. They haven't stood up in yesterday. If
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we have that clip, I'll play in the next segment yesterday,
which it's interesting. This clip hit to me like a bombshell,
and no mainstream medium, very little MAGA media picked it up.
Where Route Mark Route, the Secretary General of the of NATO, says, Hey,
America's you know, you're the global police force, You're the
cop on the beat, You're the police agent for the world,
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and uh, you know you've got to do this. No,
that's exactly what America first has revolted against. We're not
the cop of the world right, that's a globalist mentality,
that's an American empire mentality. That is what has to
be broken here. That's why people like Mike Ben's are
so important right now. Mike Bens kind of lays out
easy steps that can be done immediately on this Epstein
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situation to really start to get some information out, some
vital information out. This is why this special council they're
looking at, I think on this on this needed investigation
into what the deep state did against President Trump to
basically deny him officer first, then thwart his efforts in office,
and finally steal the office from him. You look at that,
that's the arc. It has to be investigated, uh, and
(25:58):
I think it has to be a adjudicated in a
criminal setting. It's a criminal investigation of the doing. You
have to get a special counsel on there and have
a criminal investigation of it. And I think just to
make sure that we don't spend our wheels and waste time,
give that special prosecutor the Epstein because it's going to
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tie in with much of the intelligence apparatus also foreign
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Speaker 2 (26:55):
Back in a moment, here's your host, Stephen k Back.
Speaker 4 (27:06):
Welcome back, Let's go to let's go. Oh, just a
news on Capitol Hill. We're found this closely rust vote
in the team. They haven't been able to secure even
a enough votes to start the debate on the nine
point four billion dollar recisions package. Our recommendation at President
Trump is just go do the impoundments. If you're just
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going to take this much time and this much brain
damage and have rust vote, I think he's going back
up to Capitol Hill today. You've tried to work with
the House and the Senate enough in these recisions. Either
do pocket recisions or just impound the money and let's
go to court on your Article two powers. The courts
are backing you up. Both at the state Department Department
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of Education. This Department of Education State Department ruling is massive.
It reinforces President Trump's Article two powers to be Chief
Executive Officer of the government and to let people go
in Department Education. They're going to take apart brick by brick.
So the same with the money his Article two powers,
I think to spend it. It's such. Look this a
nine point four being do a package that's supposed to
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be symbolic, and they came and get the fifty one
votes to get a debate, much less to get a
to try to get this passed. Maybe, well, we'll keep
you updated on that. Let's go to CERN Switzerland. First off,
Joe Allen, why are you incernu? And why don't we
mention that name? What is it? Why don't we mention
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that name? Many in the war and posse think that
you're going to get evaporated, sir.
Speaker 7 (28:36):
Well, Steve, you know, as you're fond of saying, let's
go to the sublime from the less sublime. Behind me
is a monument to light, especially the speed of light.
And further back beyond your line of sight are detection
systems for figuring out what sorts of properties matter has
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from smashing particles together. Right now in the systems below
our feet, going out into the mountains and out to
the Lake lach lamand there are hundreds of billions of
protons spinning at near the speed of light and smashing
into each other. The idea is to figure out the
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properties of the matter. But the ultimate idea, and many
would say that is why CERN is in some sense
a temple to the religion of science. The ultimate idea
is to figure out what the early universe look like
as in the first few seconds of the early universe.
Beyond that, I think that the spiritual significance of this
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is only overshadowed by the monetary significance because there's a
ton of money getting poured into all of this, including
from the US.
Speaker 4 (29:50):
What is the yeah, yeah, talk to us about that.
What with the money is there for the research? What
is the purpose of the what is the purpose of
the state of purpose of the research?
Speaker 7 (30:02):
You know, like I say, the particle accelerator below our
feet here is designed to basically smash subatomic particles together,
protons in particular, And the more of them you smash together,
the more they put off smaller subatomic particles, quarks, leptons,
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things like that, muons and the Higgs boson, right, the
so called god particle. The ultimate idea again is to
try to get at the secrets of the universe, the
deepest secrets of the universe. What did the universe look
like during the first few moments of the Big Bang?
Now you might say I don't care, and many people
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who are sensible would probably say the same. But if
you are a scientist who believes in nothing more than science,
there's really nothing more precious than that last.
Speaker 8 (30:56):
Little bit of data.
Speaker 7 (30:58):
You know, if there's one thing we cover all time, Steve,
it is the the kind of religious significance of data
for the techno class, and that last bit of data.
Speaker 8 (31:08):
What did the early universe look like?
Speaker 7 (31:10):
Well, supposedly they're discovering it beneath our feet, but you know,
the coffee is pretty expensive.
Speaker 8 (31:16):
That's probably an indicative of some of the costs.
Speaker 4 (31:22):
What is norton? What is the fear? Why? Why have people?
I don't know, if we have the clip, maybe my
staff can dig it up on this ceremony. Didn't they
have a ceremony? Oh there? I think a couple of
years ago when they'll put a new if we could
pull that, if my crack staff here could pull that clip,
maybe we'll play that. What is the the fear of
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the nationalists or the populist nationalist movement or you know
it so well? On an international basis, have a have
a hesitancy. This is supposed to be a temple for
the highest form of science. Remember in the in the
science and particularly saw the movie Oppenheimer. Uh, the physicist
can consider themselves the high priest of science. Everything else
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they kind of consider are poets. This is a temple
to the high priest of science, and in the physicists
and the subatomic particle in various endeavors like that. Why
are people, many people so concerned about what goes on there?
And certainly some of the events that have taken around
taken place around there, particularly this opening they had a
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couple of years ago. Ma'am.
Speaker 5 (32:30):
Well, there are many theories, not to say conspiracy theories
surrounding the SERN itself, just like many of these international
globalist institutions. But I would say that the recurring one
is that underneath our feet, as Joe mentioned, there are
these experiments taking place, and the fear is that there
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will be a huge black hole that will be created
and that will engulf us all. But on a more
pragmatic level, I would just say that what is not
a conspiracy is that all of these institutions are essentially
black holes for all of our taxpayer money.
Speaker 7 (33:07):
If I could add to that, Steve, that incident you're
talking about that was August of twenty sixteen, there was
a recording of one of the areas here, apparently near
where the interns stay, where they have a giant statue
to Shiva, the expression of God as.
Speaker 8 (33:26):
Destroyer for the Hindus, and some of the.
Speaker 7 (33:29):
Employees here got together in black robes and conducted what
I believe was a mock human sacrifice on film.
Speaker 8 (33:37):
And they say that it's just a prank.
Speaker 7 (33:40):
I asked a few people here, asked our guide in particular.
He did not seem too pleased with the question. I
thought it was simply a playful question.
Speaker 5 (33:50):
He did not think so very much off limits topic.
And we are not able to visit that part of cern.
The complex of Stern is actually very and that particular
zone is off limits.
Speaker 4 (34:05):
And by the way, yeah, I think that's.
Speaker 5 (34:09):
The Guitard tunnel. That's something else. That's actually also a
ceremony that took place in Switzerland a few years back.
It was for the opening of the Goutard tunnel, so
that's actually not what took place here at Stern. But
many of these ceremonies are infused with absolutely demonic and
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satanic themes. Whether you look at this video, the Stern video,
the Olympics, obviously the latest Olympics in Paris, the twenty
twelve Olympics in London, which eerily enough had predictive programming
scenes of a future pandemic. So they like to put
in all of this imagery to to let us know
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what is coming. I guess, Joe, either that or.
Speaker 8 (34:56):
They're very very good at anticipating in the future.
Speaker 4 (35:00):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, Joe. When you say Shiva, isn't that
didn't Oppenheimer use that quote about the destroyer at the
very moment in the Trinity experiment when the bomb went
off on the on the the the test bomb went
off in in New Mexico and they had the platform,
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they were a couple of miles away. At the very
moment they realized it work, because there's a big question
whether it's going to work. He actually did that famous
quote from the from the Hindu religion, Sir, which is
about Shiva being the destroyer of all.
Speaker 7 (35:35):
Yes, so interestingly, you know, Stephen, my travels. I was
just out at White Sands where they detonated the bomb.
Speaker 8 (35:42):
Very eerie. The silence is existential, you might say.
Speaker 6 (35:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (35:47):
Oppenheimer of course taught himself Sanskrit because he was so
obsessed with the various kinds of images of technological weaponry
that one finds in the Mahabrada and in the Baga
about Ghita. As you say, you have Shiva appearing as Kali,
the goddess of death, were just as death. And so
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in that statement, as he watched the first man made
nuclear explosion over that desert, he said that the Sanskrit
lines from the Bagavad Gita came to his mind. I
am become death, destroyer of worlds. I am become Khali,
I am become time black. And aside from whatever is
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going on in these near light speed particles whizzing beneath
our feet, I think that it not only sends a
chill down the spine, given the crisis we now face
in the midst of what seems to be the Third
World War, but artificial intelligence should give people a similar
sense of unease that maybe we're dealing with something far
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beyond our ability to control.
Speaker 4 (36:57):
Okay, so later today this ties it both together. You
had this very disturbing article in the Financial Times of London,
and the White House has not come out at least
I asked my crack staff here. I don't think they've
come out right now and refuted it. It is folks.
We have it up on Getter and I think Grace
has done it so that that everybody can read it,
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and if you don't subscribe to the Financial Times of London.
But it's very disturbing about a conversation President Trump had
with Zelensky about the long range missiles and could they
actually hit Saint Petersburg and Moscow. And it talks about
a group of American officials that have been very focused
on quote unquote taking the war to the Muscovites. You know,
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Putin has I think addressed as late as last week
about taking down the threshold for using tactical nuclear weapons
in Ukraine if they run into some problems with NATO.
You couple that with in Pittsburgh today and this is
a great investment in America and try the reindustrialization of
our heartland, and that's why they've chosen Pittsburgh, and I
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think they have a reindustrialization conference in Detroit starting I
think today and tomorrow also. Both of these though, are
very much focused on artificial intelligence, and there's eighty billion
dollars of investment in that as we know. And Daria,
I've talked to a number of people at the senior
level of some of these the leaders in artificial intelligence,
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and they're quite concerned about the driving force of this.
Joe is still a lot of it is you know,
Pentagon in military use. You saw yesterday where Groc let's
say this contract. I'm here to tell you that is
absolutely not one true right, particularly given the problems Groc
has had. But that is a contract of two entndred
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million dollars that I think is going to be led
for a number of AI initiatives. But Joe, the Pentagon
is at the cutting edge of driving artificial intelligence. And
this is why the Navidia released today has got some
people concerned, because the Chinese Communist Party is trying to
weaponize artificial intelligence more rapidly than even the American defense community.
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Your thoughts sir, we got about a minute before you
go to break.
Speaker 7 (39:16):
In this very short time, I'll simply say that people
should right now go and look up Super Intelligence Strategy
by Dan Hendrix, Eric Schmidt, Yeah, I know, and Alexander Wang.
Speaker 8 (39:29):
I think that will really give you a sense of
why it is.
Speaker 7 (39:31):
So important that we not feed the Chinese chips data
IP any of it.
Speaker 4 (39:41):
Guys, can you hang around? I got a lot more
to get to. Senator Hawley's going to join us. MTG's
going to join us. But I got a lot more
I want to discuss with you guys at CERN, including
more artificial intelligence, more aspects ofscerned and nor ben Laden's favorite,
the World Health Organization and what's happening over there. For
Frank Gaffney had a really good Frank Afney minute this morning.
(40:02):
I've given it to Nor and want her observations and comments.
Two things. Number one home title lock. We're gonna need
you at the ramparts, particularly if we're gonna have a
failure to launch on President Trump's recisions package, which right
now it looks like maybe begrudgingly they allow President Trump
to have a debate on it on the Senate floor.
(40:24):
That's a long way from getting a pass. It's only
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Speaker 2 (40:54):
Back in a moment, here's your hosts, Stephen k back.
Speaker 4 (41:05):
Okay, welcome back. Election Wizard, which goes against these clips
all the time, is reporting now breaking news from the
White House. This is from the White House. Financial Times
misconstrued President Trump's statement to Zelensky. We don't anythink deeper
in that, but I knew if we put it up
and made today item that we might get a response
to this. Because of response is needed, I hope the
(41:27):
White House pushes back on this herd and really clarifies
for President Trump said, Uh. Senator Hawley, in fact, your
your thoughts and observations of yesterday, with the announcement of
the of the selling to NATO of long range offensive
missiles to the Ukrainians. I know you've been a pretty
you've been a big skeptic about this entire Ukraine situation
(41:50):
from the beginning.
Speaker 3 (41:51):
Sir, yeah, I have. You know, here's my view on this.
If if we're going to be sending more arms to Ukraine,
I'm glad that we're getting paid for them. I mean,
that's think an important point here. I don't think that
we should be just doing this grost Us. We spend
hundreds of billions of dollars, as you know, Steve, sending
weapons to Ukraine. I mean, you just think about what
would that do for veterans healthcare in our country? What
(42:11):
would that do for working people in our country? So
I think we need to start driving a lot tougher bargain.
The President now saying we're going to get compensated for
any weapons that we send. I think it's a good
first step. I continue to believe, however, that we need
to say to our NATO allies in Europe that guys, really,
this continent has got to be your responsibility. In the
first instance, they have got to step up and do
(42:33):
a heck of a lot more than they are doing
and the President got them to increase their defense spending,
which is a huge victory, but I think we need
to have them do even more. And I just continue
to be concerned Steve, that we don't want to get
embroiled in a long term, forever war on the continent
of Europe. The President, I think, wants to bring this
war to a conclusion. Putin needs to be put back
(42:56):
into his box. But the Europeans, they've got to take
the lead in doing that, vers responsible for it.
Speaker 4 (43:02):
Your constituents in Missouri, are you know, overrepresented in the
military in volunteering his patriots. What's the sense of your
folks back in your home state about this situation.
Speaker 3 (43:14):
Well, nobody wants to see troops on the ground. I mean,
think about our folks who are actually there, I mean
in the service, we're in the uniform. Nobody wants to
see American troops on the ground here. And this is
something that I've always been concerned with, particularly frankly under
the last administration, because it has sounded for a long
time to me a lot like Vietnam, where we start
sending first we send weapons, and then we send advisors.
(43:34):
And I think we're all ready at that point, Steve,
and then pretty soon after that it becomes well, you know,
we need to actually send troops just to make sure,
and then pretty soon we're completely embroiled in it. So
you know, I trust President Trump. I think he will.
I'm confident he would never want to see American troops
on the ground. I can't imagine that. I'm glad he's
getting us paid for the weapons. I think we've got
to is I was just saying, I think we've got
(43:56):
though to push hard here to get the Europeans stepping
up and actually taking the lead on this. This is
their continent. And the truth is, if you look at
our threats overseas, put aside our border for the second,
which is our biggest immediate threat, but if you look
overseas at our threats there, it is China in the
Asia Pacific that is our biggest threat. Russia is second
(44:17):
to that. And we've got to focus where our biggest
overseas threat is, and right now that's China, which means
our European allies. They're the ones who really got to
do more here.
Speaker 4 (44:29):
I want to make sure we get to two things
before you get a bounce, and appreciate the time. Number one,
you've been all over this auto pen situation. It's just
becoming now front page news. What in the hell's going on?
And what can you do about it?
Speaker 3 (44:41):
Well, what happens to happen? A couple of things. I mean,
First of all, we need to call the person. We
now have the name of the person who managed the
autopen under Biden. I believe it's the individual's a woman.
She needs to be called before Congress, put under oath,
testify in public. We need to hear from her. We
need to know exactly what did he authorize? When did
he authorize? Is I suspect the truth is Steve, he
(45:02):
didn't authorize anything, which would be like the scandal of
the century. We need to know that. Number two, there
is supposed to be a paper trail. You know, we
had a hearing on this in the Senate a couple
of weeks ago. To me, the big revelation out of
that hearing was every time the autopen is used, there's
supposed to be an explicit paper trail. The president has
to at a minimum give verbal consent to use it,
(45:24):
and a record is made of that. So let's get
all the documents. Let's see them. They should be in
Biden's archives. They ought to be in his papers. We
need to go get them. If Biden's not going to
release them voluntarily, Congress ought to subpoena those documents and
get them and put them out in public. Where's the
paper trail? Who authorized the use of the pen? That's
what we need to be getting after.
Speaker 4 (45:47):
I think you're right. The scale of the scandal here
is pretty mind boggling. If he didn't really know, and
it doesn't seem like he did. Another scandal that you've
been at the front of pushing to get some answers
is the FPI five on the President Trump's one year
anniversary of the assassination attempt. It's kind of stunning. We
don't really know a lot about this guy. We don't
(46:08):
know the family. The father hasn't been arrested or charge.
It's pretty stunning even the investigation. But we don't really
have any records. What is your recommendation there?
Speaker 3 (46:19):
My recommendation is we declassify Homeland Security. Department of Homeland
Security declassify all of the records relating to the Butler
assassination attempt and this guy, Thomas Matthew Crooks. We need
to know everything there is to know about it. Here's
the deal, Steve. A year on from this thing where
the president's nearly killed on national television, it's a miracle
of God that he survives. A year after this, still
(46:41):
pretty much most of what we know is based on whistleblowers,
and I want to thank again the brave whistleblowers. I
talked to so many of them over the last year
who came forward to me and to other offices. But
I think we had more than anybody Secret Service, FBI,
Homeland Security who came forward and gave us a picture
of what was going on. But Steve that the travesty
is A year later. Were it not for those whistleblowers,
(47:03):
I think we'd still know basically nothing. That really is
just not acceptable. And so I would just call on
the Homeland Security Department Secretary Nome. She's a great patriot.
I would call on her to declassify all of the information.
We need to see all of it. And you know what,
if that makes some people look bad, so be it.
We may need to do some house cleaning. And the
(47:23):
fact that nobody has been fired, nobody at Secret Service.
You just about lost to president twice actually, and nobody
has been fired. Boy, there's a problem.
Speaker 4 (47:35):
Real quickly. We only get about a minute. I just
want to make sure you're saying all the vital information
that we really have would come from whistleblowers and not
the official apparatus itself.
Speaker 3 (47:45):
Correct. Yeah, that's correct. Almost you look at the reports.
There's a recent report out from the Homeland Security Committee,
came out a couple of days ago. Almost all of
that information was initially given to us by whistleblowers. It
was whistleblowers who told us that the roof of the
AGR building was abandoned, and they were right. Whistleblowers who
said the Secret Service refused the offer of drones from
(48:05):
local law enforcement. I'll just be honest with you, Steve.
It was a local law enforcement agent who told me that,
And you know what, that was exactly correct. Secret Service
did refuse drone help. Whistleblowers told us that there weren't
there were not going to be counter snipers. Secret Service
wasn't even planning to send them. That turns out to
be correct. All of the stuff we know from whistleblowers,
where are the official records. It's time we get the
(48:26):
official stuff and everything you know his apps. Thomas Crooks's
apps now have been accessed by FBI. Let's see it.
We're not going to prosecute the guy. He's dead. Let's
see all the information.
Speaker 4 (48:39):
A Senator, where do people go to get you? Where
your social media?
Speaker 3 (48:43):
Holly mo is my Twitter handle, Same for Instagram, Facebook,
you can go to Josh Holly dot com as always
thinks for having with Steve
Speaker 4 (48:52):
Senator, thank you very much for car aps the Time
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