July 28, 2025 • 48 mins
THE WAR ROOM WITH STEPHEN L. BANNON, JULY 28TH, 2025
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BEN HARNWELL
OREN CASS
BRIAN HARRISON
MIKE LINDELL
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray
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Here's not got a free shot. All these networks lying
about the people, the people have had a belly full
of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I
know you've tried to do everything in the world to
stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's
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going to happen. And where do people like that go
to share the big line?
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Mega media?
Speaker 1 (00:28):
I wish in my soul, I wish that any of
these people had a conscience. Ask yourself, what is my
task and what is my purpose? If that answer is
to save my country, this country.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Will be saved. Or here's your host, Stephen.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
K Bas.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
Monday twenty eight July. You're for Lord twenty twenty five? Man,
was that a quick first hour? This is so much,
so much going on up in Europe, in Scotland at Turnbury,
heading now up to northern Scotland. We're gonna get Josh Pettitt.
Not this morning because they're too slam but hopefully this
afternoon or tomorrow morning. You talk about President Trump's other developments,
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his great love, not just for the game, but also
for also for Scotland. I do believe you're gonna hear
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which is quite close to President Trump's heart. Josh Pettit
kind of broke that on Saturday on the show Saturday, Yeah, Saturday.
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that the ladder. Ben Harnwell, thank you for hanging around
in that. And so the bright Part interview I think
will start to come up tonight. Matt always does a
great job with that. President Trump for two hours, took
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all comers on the from the press, Star Wars sitting
there going because you just never see world figures do this. Obviously,
the EU deal and I think Lutnik was on TV.
The letters are going out. They've got sixty percent of
the GDP right now. Besson's in Stockholm for two days
Monday Tuesday. He's coming back. They're going to the Brightbart
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event on Wednesday. We're gonna stream that. That's a one
on one with Matt in the Secretary Treasury. But that
would be I don't know, pretty near the rest of it.
You still got a couple of countries out I don't
think we've announced the India deal yet. But President Trump
is making far greater progress than everybody ever thought in
reorganizing the world's commercial relationships, particularly with the United States.
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And hey, as we said back at the beginning, he's
charging a premium to get through the Golden door. You
got two choices. Either bring manufacturing here or if you're
going to ship it in here, you're going to pay
a premium. And so you got a choice, and a
lot of people taking parts of both. But he did
drop a bomb today and this about the Ukraine situation.
(04:05):
We have two things heating up that kind of warned
about the net Nyahu situation in Gaza. I think finally
they've come to a conclusion because they've been doing these
massive kind of you know, they have a strategy, then
they go to another strategy. I think there's a consensus
at least from that now who they've got to take
care of the Muslim brotherhood and they have to do
it now, regardless of the hostages. Uh. And I think
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you're hearing that they're going to rev that up. But
over in the Ukraine and this for all these guys
run around, all these pannikins they don't, you know, they
keep warning about the Third World War is here. The
killing fields of the Third World War are here and
bloodier than they were at the beginning of the Second
World War. Because that built her crescendo, We're kind of
starting with the crescendo. Ben Harnwell, He basically told Putin
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there was a strike last night by Ukraine deep into
Russian territory, and Russia's been pounding a every day. Zelensky
is under a ton of pressure as we have been
doing everything we can to support those folks in Ukraine
that want to have an accounting for the money and
the corruption and the grift and all of it. But
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President Trump dropped a bomb that Putin's got, i don't know,
ten or twelve days to make his mind up here,
which is kind of scary.
Speaker 4 (05:22):
Right, But the EU deal really guts a lot of
Russia's ability to sell cheap energy because the deal has
almost a trellion dollars I think of energy purchases.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
From the United States your assessment from Rome, sir.
Speaker 5 (05:38):
I think it's seven hundred and fifty a billion dollars
over the course of the rest of this administration, which
is a huge look I'm going to talk about the
tariff trade deal. But what Donald Trump has done is
absolutely fantastic and amazing, and it hasn't really cost the
United States very much at all. Macron has been hit
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hardest with regards to the French agricultural export industry. But basically,
the Europeans just wanted to fold and give in. They
didn't want a trade war, and they haven't particularly been
required to demand of America that much. Is a pretty
one sided negotiation, and I have to say President Trump
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handled it absolutely amazingly. I will just draw this point
because Nigra Farage mentioned it at the beginning of the
show that when Donald Trump went out, the protests were
hardly negligent this time around in this administration compared to
ten years ago, and he's all in. Nigrofarge also said
that there's been a turnaround and how the Brits view
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Donald Trump. I just want to point out these trade concessions. Obviously,
the UK is no longer part of the EU, so
will have a different, hopefully more beneficial arrangement. But however
that works out, it's actually it will hit us in
continental Europe and the UK. What Donald Trump is doing
and Yet people here like Donald Trump, even though he's
(07:06):
objectively making our.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
Lives much more difficult.
Speaker 5 (07:10):
And I'd like just to throw the reason out is
that they see in Donald Trump a leader that is
putting the interest of his people first.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
That's what they want to see from their own governments.
Speaker 5 (07:20):
They're not really seeing it, but they respect that, even
to their own detriment. Just to close backets on that
there is something coming out of Ukraine and it is interesting.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
Slow down, I can't. This is what I was talking about, Nigel.
They're pulling at thirty four percent, which is really what
the Tories, the two parties have been around for one
for two hundred years, the other four hundred combined barely
with Nigel because they look at his constancy, in his
strength of putting his country first. This is what I mean.
(07:57):
Chris Matthews said the smartest thing over the weekend of everybody.
He said, hey, I don't care about some of these policies,
losing independence on some of these topics. They said. People
attracted the strength, particularly the day in a world in chaos,
in Trump is a tower of strength. You may not
like everything you get, but you realize he's always putting
the country's interests. First, is that what the Nigel's driving
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off of is that what people are looking for, even
in Europe, Sir.
Speaker 5 (08:22):
Yeah, it is, it is. It absolutely is that. And
just to give Chris Matthews credit for once on his
analysis here you can see the pivot that the mainstream
media is belatedly making because this idea of a strong
man was pejorative in the mouths of the liberal progressive
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elites for the last twenty years.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
That is how they really wanted to signal.
Speaker 5 (08:48):
In addition to the descriptor far right, but they really
wanted to indicate to people that they're not allowed to
like someone they called them a strong man. And here
you have Chris Matthews coming out saying that they are
attracked to. People are attracted to Donald Trump because he
represents strength. And what's not said, but of course you
can back project is that is the comparison with the
(09:09):
with the guy with the guy that Donald Trump replaced
Joe Biden, who I don't think did I mean Donald
Trump did two hours worth of interviews with Matt Boyle earlier.
I don't think Joe Biden did two hours worth of
interviews added together over the whole four years.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
And that's just like no, No, he took he took
to no. He took two hours of questions in a
press of Vale today was starmer there. He had another
hour with Mad Boyl beforehand, so three hours an hour
with Boyle. Then he took two hours of justin Presservale,
taking every question, you know, every question they can ask him,
the cheap shot questions and the tough ones. You don't
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see anybody, I mean, forget Biden. You don't see anybody
in the world that can do that. Ben and and
hand all the topics in fairly, you know, fairly in
depth and give a sophisticated and nuanced approach to it.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Sir, Well, look, I tell you this.
Speaker 5 (10:03):
When I come on this show and I speak for
five or ten minutes, I spend all morning, and I'm
obviously six hours ahead of you guys in America. I
spend all morning preparing my notes. Just to be able
to speak for five minutes. It's an indication of Donald
Trump's the command that he has of the detail to
be able to hold basically three hours worth back to
back of in depth questions so freely, folks. That's a
(10:27):
very difficult thing to do. And people say his detractors
say that Donald Trump doesn't read briefing notes, not interested
in the detail. Anyone who wants to make that argument,
I defy you to go into a press pool and
take three hours worth of questions back to back, without notes,
without sort of tip offs, and what the questions, you know,
that's the difference the Democrats. Biden was always tipped off
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what the questions were going to be. Donald Trump sits
there and he'll take all questions and he'll respond, and
I think actually shows an incredible command of the situation,
come on of details, and that, you know, having that
sense of command is why he's able when he puts
his mind to it, to determine and dictate the agenda.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
Let's go to this, the quite controversial throwdown with Putin
to say, hey, look, upon further review, it ain't forty
days left of the fifty, it's going to be ten
to twelve.
Speaker 6 (11:22):
Your thoughts, well, having spoken so generously thirty seconds ago, look,
I'm against this, and I have to say, and one
of the reasons I'm against this, in addition to the
motives I say every time I come on this show, Steve.
Speaker 7 (11:38):
Is this.
Speaker 5 (11:39):
You know, when I was reading this statement like ten
twenty minutes or so ago, because it's literally come out
since we've been on air. Donald Trump is now more invested.
You know, we said for months, he's got to be careful.
He's going to get dragged in. He's going to become
associated with this war.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
U grate he's going to take. It's going to be
his war. People are going to stop.
Speaker 5 (12:01):
Even though he continues to say it's Biden's war, people
are going to start considering it to be Trump's war.
It's gone beyond that.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
Now.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
He is more invested personally.
Speaker 5 (12:11):
With his name, his reputation in the outcome of this
war than Joe Biden was at any point in the
two years when he was still in the White House.
It's very dangerous what's taking place now. And all the
signals coming out of the Kremlin. When Donald Trump first
came out with his fifty days throwdown, all the signals
are is that they basically just blew him off publicly.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
So we don't care.
Speaker 5 (12:34):
You know, he can do what he wants. We're not
going to try and escalate the situation. But obviously America,
President Trump can do what he wants. He's continuing to
escalate this. I don't see I could be wrong. I'm
wrong all the time, but I don't see any indication
that from the Russians that they're going to crumple on
this in terms of threats of secondary tariffs, which is
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going to which are going to hit the very people
that I think that Donald Trump is actually trying to
cultivate India. For example, in the European Union, who is
the country that trades most with Russia. It's Victor all Bands, Hungary.
These are guys that Donald Trump needs to continue to
build very strong relationship with, especially India.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
With regards to the bricks dynamic.
Speaker 5 (13:19):
We'll see how it takes, how it rolls out, but
there is after the breaks.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
If I do have something coming up here on.
Speaker 5 (13:24):
Ukraine, which I will highlight because it is an indication
of how Donald Trump is being and America is being
dragged further into this war in Ukraine.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
Perfect stick around with get Ben Hanold orn Cass. We
talk about the part of the world's economy that we
still have to kind of wrangle. That's the Chinese Commuist
Party across our favorite Scott Besson, our former contributor here
is in Stockholm even as we speak trying to hammer
out move the ball downfield on that orn. Cass from
(13:58):
Compass is put together a letter to let the President
and people in Capitol Hill know that there's certain situations
going on with these advanced chips that may not be
to the advantage of the United States of America and
may be a good time to think about it as
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Speaker 1 (15:31):
Okay, welcome back. I've got Orn cass On from Compass
and orders this kind of rising generation of populace, nationalist thinkers,
public intellectuals, economist. He runs Compass, the Great magazine and
website ORB. I should go check it out. So orin
this morning, there's a huge story in the Financial Times.
I don't think it's in my print edition. I think
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it's only online from one of the smartest guys in
DC that covers the White House for Financial Times headline,
Donald Trump, it freezes export controls to secure trade deal
with China. You've been kind of ahead of this because
you've written this letter I want to get to the letter,
get what there's heavyweights that you brought onto this have
(16:14):
are worried about. And I want to put in the
context that Besent is in Stockholm right now. Trump just
announces the EU deal. Matt Bowles on here saying, hey,
right now he's got sixty percent of the world's economy
under some sort of new and some of us just
heads of terms or terms agreed, but they're hammering out
the details. The two big pieces I think we've got
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to go are China and India. But you're saying, hey,
we've got a big problem here, deals with artificial intelligence,
the future of really the drivers of the world economy.
Walk us through both the article in this letter and
what your concerns are and the concerns of people you've
brought into this debate.
Speaker 9 (16:56):
Sir, Yeah, thanks for having me on to talk about this.
I think it's a super important issue. I want to
credit Americans for responsible innovation. Was did a lot of
the work on this bringing the letter together. We were
very proud to partner with them from American Compass, and
they got a lot of leading national security guys and gals, folks,
folks from the first Trump administration in a lot of
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cases to call attention to this really important problem we're
having with China in particular. I think you just described
things well. Trump administration is making just huge progress on
these trade deals with countries that should be our allies,
with countries we do want to be trading with. The
question is what to do about China. And I think
you know, the endgame here is we don't need to
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deal with China. China is our adversary. China is not
a country we want to be, you know, trading with
and trying to support. But what the Trump administration has
done very recently is attempt to essentially give the green
light to selling very advanced AI chips to China. It's
(18:01):
an interesting question why they're doing this. I think it's
because there are a lot of folks in the administration
who do want.
Speaker 8 (18:06):
To get a deal with China.
Speaker 9 (18:08):
But as we lay out in this letter, it's a
huge mistake. It is a mistake to think that we
can make a deal with China. It is a mistake
to think, hey, if we get our chips into China, well,
you know, then that's great, They'll start using our technology.
That is the game China has played with America over
and over again, and.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
We always lose.
Speaker 9 (18:28):
And the other reality is there's just there's a shortage
of AI chips. Every AI chip we sell to China
is one less AI chip that we have here in America.
So we're going to be simultaneously speeding up China's progress,
we're going to be slowing our progress. And frankly, the
winner here is in Vidia. You know, in Video is
a multinational corporation. They make great chips, but they've made
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it very clear that they are much more interested in
making profit in China than they are in the American
national interest. And so I think there's a perfect example
where President Trump where the administration need to stand up
and say, no, we aren't going to do this. Send
our technology China, pan focus on America.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
Just for full disclosure, of course, in the war room,
myself personally in the war room, and American compass and yourselves,
and I think some of the other there's two schools
of thought, coupling and decoupling. I would say charitably we're
in the decoupling school of thought here about the about
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the two economies. Is that correct?
Speaker 9 (19:30):
Absolutely? I decoupling is too friendly. I've I've moved on
to hard break, I think is what we need.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
So how do you so the people in Wall Street,
Silicon Valley, in the White House, and maybe even the
President of States would say, guys, I love that in theory,
but it's not practical. These two economies are industrictably linked
with capital technology. Uh. And what you're what you guys
are calling for is a is a global depression that
takes the economies down by ten or twenty percent, And
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so to be some bridging network, We're not gonna let
them do all the chips. In fact that there's a
huge article I think in the Saturday FT before this
came out about the black market and even taking Navidia
chips and trying to upscale them. So orn casts and
Steve Bannon and others are great guys in the in
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their in their patriots, but they're not practical. You can't,
you know, you can't have a coupling, much less orn
Cass's heart heartbreak or Bannon's let's have Lau Baijing overthrow
the CCP. What is your what is your response to that?
Speaker 9 (20:39):
Well, I think it's entirely practical to disentangle our economies.
It's certainly practical to do it in these areas where
we haven't even sold something before. It's not like we've
been selling advanced AI chips to China for the last
thirty years. This is something new, and the question is
are we going to allow it or not? And the
answer is obviously me no. And a good way to
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see this is just flip it around. Let's imagine that
China had some advanced technology that was giving it a
huge leg up.
Speaker 8 (21:06):
Do we think for a moment.
Speaker 9 (21:08):
That that companies in China controlled by the CCP would
be saying, oh, please let us sell these chips to
the United States so we can make a little bit
more profit. Obviously not that that's already not the relationship
we have in one direction, because the Chinese get it.
The question is what is the relationship going to be
in the other direction? And you know, look, it's not
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going to happen overnight. We we've spent a couple of
decades now making the wrong choice, getting our economies in tangle.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
We've always given them techno, always giving them technology. You're
letting them steal it. Let me go, let me take
this this. This also cuts to the heart of a
bigger debate, and that is this whole debate about renown
an arms race, that that AI can't have any regulation,
it can't the four Frontier labs and and you know,
people like Elon Musk and the guys at Open AI
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and these people can't have any controls on them because
we're in an arms race for the most important technology
mankind's ever seen, and it's a national security issue. My
point is, if we didn't sell them the technology, or
let them know the processes or techniques, or give them
the capital, there wouldn't be a race. Am I wrong
in that? Is this issue right here about these Navidia chips,
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which by the way, has a market cap of four
trillion dollars and a guy that runs it, and I
understand President Trump's quite enamored with him, but he has
a history of having a relationship with the Chinese Cameras Party.
If we took your direction, or we wouldn't have, there
would be no race for artificial intelligence, would there?
Speaker 3 (22:43):
Well?
Speaker 9 (22:43):
I think in the long run there will be a race.
But to your point, we are ahead on these critical technologies,
and if we commit to staying ahead, if we commit
to keeping these advanced chips for ourselves. That's a huge
step along the way to say we have to win
the race. And also we're selling a bunch of these
advanced chips to China.
Speaker 8 (23:03):
It doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 9 (23:04):
And by the way, if you're concerned about AI safety,
if you're thinking, gosh, let's think about the ways that AI,
you know, could be misused. I mean, guess who's not
worried about that. Guess who's not going to put on
those controls? The Chinese. So it makes no sense from
that angle either to be saying, well, let's, you know,
let's get these chips in there again, unless your top
priority is the profit of a couple of these companies.
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And like you said, you know Jensen Wong's who's the
head of Nvidia. He has not been a good actor
in this. He has been frankly not telling the truth.
He's been claiming his chips aren't getting into China when
he knows they are. He just went and opened a
research center in China. This is the mistake we've been
playing over and over again, and and this is where
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President Trump needs to be changing the game. The idea
that well, we got to back off because this is
what the corporations want That was never the right strategy.
And if there's ever gonna be an administration that's going
to fix this, it really has to be this one.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
Talk to me about the letter. The letter you as
a joint effort with you and another organization, you got
some pretty important signatures. What do you have, what is it?
What's the heart of what the letter says to President Trump?
And what do you hope to accomplish.
Speaker 9 (24:17):
Well, the heart of the letter is to emphasize that
this is fundamentally a.
Speaker 8 (24:20):
National security issue.
Speaker 9 (24:21):
That you know, there are plenty of different views on
trade policy and what deals we should make where, but
this is this is about more than trade. This is
a fundamental question of national security, and it is it
is doing two things at once. If we license these chips,
it's it's not just a question of whether we want
China to have the chips or not, and obviously we
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should not want that. It's also a question of whether
we're going to have enough chips for us. And so
it's this, it's this double effect both speeding China.
Speaker 8 (24:51):
Up and slowing us down.
Speaker 9 (24:53):
And the last point I think that makes it it's
really important is you know, we actually did restrict these
chips just a few months ago, and and now it
looks like, you know, Secretary Lutnik in the Commerce Department
has said, no, we're changing our mind, and that kind
of changing our mind, going back and forth. It makes
it very hard to enforce any export controls if people think, well.
Speaker 8 (25:12):
Maybe they're not serious.
Speaker 9 (25:13):
You know, maybe we shake some hands, maybe we say
some nice things, and it'll all change again. It's really
important to be consistent if we are going to be
credible in ourselves and in asking our partners in other
countries to all hold hands and stop selling this stuff
to the Chinese.
Speaker 8 (25:29):
So having a broad set of.
Speaker 9 (25:32):
Really senior national security folks, a lot of folks who
have worked in the Trump administration the first time around.
Speaker 8 (25:38):
You know, this is not an anti Trump letter.
Speaker 9 (25:41):
These are people who very much believe in support what
the Trump administration is trying to do. And the right
way to do that is not to keep, is not
to sell these chips. It's to do what we have
been doing and say no, we need to prevent their
sale to China.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
Real quick. Only get a minute, if we abide by
your letter, if the President took it under advisement and
said yeah, we're going to do this. I'm gonna go
along with Or and the guys. Would that Could that
be possibly the same equivalent of in the summer nineteen
forty one curtailing oil shipments to Japan that expedited Pearl Harbor, Sir.
Speaker 8 (26:18):
I don't think so.
Speaker 9 (26:19):
I think decoupling is really the way to step things
down with China.
Speaker 7 (26:23):
Here.
Speaker 9 (26:24):
If you look, when we had World Wars breakout, it
was within between countries that were doing an enormous amount
of trade. When did we actually have a staple situation?
It was between the US and the Soviet Union when
we said we have two different systems, we're going to
stay apart from each other, We're going to respect each
other's spears. And I think that is a best, much
better model for us to be heading to orn.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
Hang on for one second, I want to hold you
through the break just for a couple of minutes. Brian
Harrison from Austin, Texas, about this debacle in Texas. Ben
Harnwell still from Rome. We're we get it all done
in the war room on a Monday morning in July.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
Here's your host, Stephen K ban.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
Or real quickly. Do you think also that this situation
that we're going to try to have to bleed some
of these chips out is because the CCP has us
over the barrel on the processing of rare earths. We've
started a plant, it's going to be a couple of
years to get up and running. So the Magnets of
ball Bearings is that the underlying tension in this deal
that we got to give them some chips. Are they
going to cut us off from rare earth? And they
(27:25):
cut us off from rare earth the process once, like
the Magnets, production lines and automotive and other will be
shutting down in a couple of weeks, Sir.
Speaker 8 (27:33):
I definitely think that could be part of it.
Speaker 9 (27:36):
I think the reality is we have other options if
we need those rare earths sooner, and if it is
that critical, we should be doing a lot more than
seeing what we can bring online in a couple of years.
Speaker 8 (27:47):
But ultimately we should be taking this as a lesson.
Speaker 9 (27:50):
Everybody who said, oh it doesn't matter if stuff goes
to China if we're dependent on China, to now turn
around and say, oh, well, actually we are dependent on China,
so now you have to also let us sell our
fans day Eye Chips to China. I'm not persuaded. It
sounds like making a bigger mess than before.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
Orn, American Compass. Where do people go to get your
social media? Where they go to get the magazine, the website,
all this because you guys are at the cutting edge
of populist economic and cultural thinking.
Speaker 8 (28:19):
Sir, Well, thank you.
Speaker 9 (28:21):
I'm at Oran Underscore Casts on X. All of our
policy work is Americancompass dot org, our magazine is Commonplace
dot org, and our new book covering all of this
is The New Conservatives.
Speaker 7 (28:36):
Orn.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
Thank you so much. Great letter, great article in today's
Financial Times, and a huge issue. Thank you, sir for
being a bold leader with some guts.
Speaker 8 (28:46):
Well, thanks for thanks. Probably gonna shighlight it.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
Thank you. Very easy to roll over on this. This
is everything quite frankly at these chips. Brian Harrison joins
us from Texas. Brian, this mess gets worse now. The
redistioning is so big. President Trump's getting involved. Desanta steps
up and says we're going to do We're going to
do at least five in Florida. Now there's talk over
(29:11):
the weekend. I spend a lot of time with people.
I've been actually doing a mid decade census to get
this mess sorted. But in Texas this thing is getting
Are the Democrats running the entire process down there serving
this redistricting?
Speaker 10 (29:24):
It certainly certainly looks like that. I mean, I'll tell
you the quick updates. So the governor called us back
for a special session. Our special sessions in Texas to
last four weeks, so we are over twenty five percent,
over a quarter of the way through, completely wasted by
the way the Texas House has been on the floor
I think three or four times for a total of
twenty minutes. So I was able to do this for
(29:46):
my office today because we gabbled in at ten o'clock
and at ten oh four our Rhino speaker declared, quote,
the speaker's desk is clear. We haven't referred a single
bill to any committees. We've had no bills come out
of committee to the floor, and the redistricting front total
train wreck. I mean, once our Democrats elected the Republican
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nominally Speaker of the Texas House, he rewarded them by
re writing the House rules to give them unprecedented power
in the history of the Texas House to effectively control
all of our committees, that includes the Redistricting Committee. So
we've had now between the House and Senate for redistricting hearings.
Hundreds of witnesses have testified. Zero were brought in to
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support the redistricting. This has been a full on DNC
scripted infomercial against the President Trump's request to redistrict down here,
against the Texas Legislature taking action that would be beneficial
to not just the people of Texas, but the people
of America. And it's a complete outreage. We've had I
think three four to five members of Congress come down here,
(30:48):
of course in coordination with the DNC, including you know,
people like Jasmine Crocketts and Castro and others.
Speaker 3 (30:54):
These are the people that the Texas.
Speaker 10 (30:57):
Legislature are bringing in to come down and testify. So
hundreds of witnesses against full DNC scripting infomercial against the
redistricting effort. Zero Republican witnesses testifying that we.
Speaker 3 (31:10):
Should do it.
Speaker 10 (31:11):
And so what we've effectively allowed to have happened here
is hours and hours and hours of testimony into the
record with the Democrats pretending that this effort would be unconstitutional, illegal,
that would be explicitly racist, all completely preposterous in their efforts,
coordinated at the highest levels of the DNC, to undermine
the redistricting effort. And they've already succeeded in burning over
(31:32):
a quarter of our special session.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
So, like, who's in charge? Is Lieutenant Governor Patrick going
to get involved? Is Abbott? Are they? Are they hoping
the Senate save you?
Speaker 7 (31:43):
Guys?
Speaker 1 (31:43):
You've had hundreds of witnesses against and smearing everybody with
the worst charges possible with and people like Jasmine Crockett,
who's you know, such a piece of work? Right kind
of leading?
Speaker 10 (31:55):
This is the wos this the one who tried to
take away President Trump's secret surface protection a week before
he was shot. These are the people we're highlighting down here.
Speaker 1 (32:04):
So, but is somebody when is the adult supervision going
to start? I mean, you've only got three weeks left.
How are we going to turn this thing around? This
is a huge priority for everyone in the Republican Party
and the conservative movement, and is particularly high priority for
a guy named Donald J. Trump. So when is this
going to start getting turned around? And how is it
going to get turned around?
Speaker 7 (32:25):
Well?
Speaker 10 (32:25):
I hope it mean it should have already been turned around.
I mean, there should have been a clear message that
we're not going to tolerate the nonsense. But the problem is,
for close to two decades, Democrats, even though they get
routed at the ballot box by the voters of Texas
who re elected President Donald J. Trump in a fourteen
point landslide, there's almost two decades of precedents for turning
around and giving the Democrats the power to control the
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legislative branch that they did not earn at the ballot box.
And we saw this just four years ago in twenty
twenty one, when the Democrats broke quorum and ran off
to Washington to hang out with Nancy Pelosi to keep
the state of Texas from passing election pegrity bills. And
we're already seeing this. I think fifteen Democrats fled the
state and many went to California. They were meeting with
Gavin Newsom, with holding press conferences with Gavin Newsom over
(33:09):
the weekend. Democrats in Texas, by the way, eleven of
the fifteen of these radical leftist Democrats are part of
the coalition that elected are supposedly Republican speaker, and they
do it with complete impunity because they know that for
years and years and years, they have been allowed to
thwart President Trump, Texas conservatives and Republican priorities without any
(33:32):
fear of retribution.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
So I'm sorry.
Speaker 10 (33:34):
If the state of Texas had the type of bold
conservative leadership that people and voters demanded that they deserve,
they would never try such things because they know they
wouldn't be allowed to get away with it. Now, there
should be swift consequences for any Democrats thwarting this process.
But not only are there not consequences for that, they're
basically being given the reins. But we're turning the Texas
Capital Channel into the DNC network programming, you know, almost
(33:57):
wall to wall every minute of these hearings. And I
hate to say this, that goes for both chambers, the
Texas House nor the Texas Senate has brought in one
single Republican to testify on the reasons that the state
of Texas should undergo this redistricting initiative, something that I
think we should do, somebody President Trump thinks we should
(34:18):
do in something that I leave millions and millions and
millions of the voters of Texas believe and know that
we should do.
Speaker 1 (34:25):
Brian, where can people go on your social media to
keep up with this. We're going to have you back
on tomorrow. This is something that I can tell you
from the absolute top. People want to be on top of.
So where do where do people go to keep in
touch with you?
Speaker 10 (34:40):
Yeah, if you want to see the only I hate
to say it, but it's the only medium providing of
the shows like you, the real truth coming out of
the swamp here in Austin. It's my social media at
Brian E. Harrison on X.
Speaker 4 (34:51):
Brian E.
Speaker 10 (34:52):
Harrison on X, please go like, follow, share, amplify because
the Austin, the Texas and of course the national media
are not telling the truth of what's going on down here.
They're kind of sweeping this under the rug because everybody
just just assumes that Republicans control Texas. But what they
don't know is that it's just people with the word
Republican buy their name. They're in control, but they've handed
the keys to the castle to Joe Biden, Kamala Harris,
(35:15):
Nancy Pelosi and the Party of Barack Obama. I mean,
for crying out loud, Barack Obama's former White House lawyer
is our House parliamentary and making sure that conservative legislation
dies here in the Texas legislature.
Speaker 2 (35:25):
So at Brian E.
Speaker 10 (35:26):
Harrison on X and I appreciate everything you, Steve and
the posse you're doing to keep the people not just
of Texas but America updating almost going on now.
Speaker 1 (35:34):
You know, Brian, if it was Biden, Kamala, Harris and Pelosi,
as bad as that would be, it wouldn't be as
bad as who they really turned it over to Crockett
and cashtro And they've turned it over to the Mandami,
the Mandamei element of New York right that really the
Working People's Party, the DSA, etc. This is as radical
(35:56):
as you can get and it's running the tables down
in Austin, Texas. So thank you will.
Speaker 10 (36:00):
Now, why do we have socialist Marxists being given airtime
courtesy of the Republican controlled government of Texas.
Speaker 1 (36:06):
It's lunacy, lunacy, Thank you sir. Great to be with you.
This Texas thing is out of control, folks. We're gonna
spend some time this week on getting to the bottom
of it, more on reporting on that where we're poured
out on that in the next couple of days. Ben
Harnwell back to Ukraine because we quite quickly could slide
(36:28):
into a bigger shooting war over there.
Speaker 5 (36:30):
Sir, Well, look, I think about six weeks ago when
Ukraine launched its drone attack on Russia's air force, part
of it it's nuclear triad. It did so largely from
drones which had been smuggled from Ukraine into Russia. What
happened over the last twenty four hours is different. It
(36:51):
was an attack deep inside Russia, but from long range
drones launched from Ukraine itself. Now, this is an attack
on Stavropol, which is about two hundred and thirty five
miles from the border, from the Ukraine Russia border, deep
into Russia long range drones. So obviously the first thing
(37:11):
I did when I read about this was I just
wanted to check what the distance was between the border
and Moscow itself, and the distance there is again in miles,
two hundred and eighty miles.
Speaker 3 (37:22):
Well within the range.
Speaker 5 (37:23):
Then that being the case, you know, inquiring minds would ask,
if Ukraine already has the capacity to strike with long
range drones deep inside Russia, why does it need.
Speaker 3 (37:40):
American produced long range missiles?
Speaker 5 (37:45):
And I don't mean to be cynical, but I would
suggest that the answer is because Ukraine's only possibility of
winning this war is by dragging the United States in
to the interkinetic engagement against Russia, something we've warned about
for three years. And my query, my hesitation, is that
(38:05):
being the case, why are again to ask the question
that the whole war impossibly will know the answer before
I've even finished the question.
Speaker 3 (38:13):
Why are elements inside the United.
Speaker 5 (38:15):
States actively trying to pressure the administration successfully into providing
these long range missiles to Ukraine? People like Lindsay Graham, right,
it is, This is the reason. It is because there's
an attempt, no strategic necessity whatsoever from the Ukrainian point
of view, but there's an attempt to get America into
(38:39):
this war. And that, Steve, is the backdrop between what
we were saying earlier on the show why everyone should
be very concerned that President Trump has brought forward his deadline,
his fifty day deadline.
Speaker 3 (38:53):
To ten to twelve days. I guess that was going
to be made more decisive.
Speaker 1 (38:58):
Okay, we got a minute love for you, we get
a minute left for you. How do you think this
thing plays out over the next ten to twelve days?
Because this is an audible that's going to have some ramification.
Speaker 7 (39:08):
Sir.
Speaker 5 (39:10):
Steve, I can only guess President Trump is doing this
because he has intel there's not publicly available that suggests
that Russia is going to climb down in a humiliating fashion.
I don't see any evidence of that. But you know,
he had fifty days to play with. You know, that
was a bit ambiguous. He could have just kicked it,
(39:32):
you know, he had just kicked it in someone into
the long grass.
Speaker 3 (39:36):
The fact that he's actively.
Speaker 5 (39:38):
Bringing this forward seems to me that he's playing a
game of chicken with Russia that he thinks he can win.
But as I say, he must be acting on intel
that he has, and that I don't to have that
conclusion because that's not what I'm reading on my analysis
of the facts.
Speaker 1 (39:55):
No, what the deal with the EU is a big
bloaw of the on energy. But I got to tell
you the secondary sent Maybe he's ready to put secondary
sanctions on China. I mean, you're negotiating in right now
in Sweden with China and you may put secondary sanctions
on them, which is about the oil that Russia sells
to them. Right now, all I know is I think
Russia's got a six hundred thousand man army that's ready
(40:16):
to roll for the summer. And I think their target
maybe Odessa ben Harnwell. Where do people keep up with you, sir?
And your social media?
Speaker 5 (40:24):
Thanks Steve on Geta, she'd be tapping my surname at
hahn Well, where as always I have some pretty provocative
posts at the top of my feed waiting your attention.
Thanks Steve, God bless catch you're.
Speaker 1 (40:37):
Putting your putting your cynical bead eyes ben Harnwell, Thank you, brother,
appreciate you. Wow.
Speaker 7 (40:45):
What a day.
Speaker 1 (40:48):
Boil from Scotland. President Trump's there two hours taking questions
from the media. Who can do that? Nobody only try short.
Speaker 2 (40:58):
Here's your host, Stephen and ka.
Speaker 1 (41:03):
A couple of things. Number one and when the Senate leaves,
I think they're going to leave here momentarily. I believe
CeNAT Releaset tells we have one hundred and thirty five
one hundred and fifty appointments ready to go for confirmations
right now. I think Fune and Johnson are working it
out that they do this novelty act where they keep
(41:27):
they keep in session by having somebody walk up and
do it for like thirty seconds a day. Bottom line,
they wouldn't actually go into recess. Some president trum Wind
gives receense appointments. They're getting all this done, and he's
got very few people confirmed yet that one thousand confirmations
means US attorneys. The judge is getting done. Emill Bovie
(41:47):
should be done Tuesday or Wednesday. Judge Janine is getting done.
But the Democrats, and this is a Democrat, this is
what Democrats are doing. They're essentially filibustering every one of
his nominations. And you got all these second and third
level of people under the cabinet heads and at these agencies,
and these are the folks who get the work done.
(42:09):
Not that the head guys don't, head men and women
don't do work. They do, but a lot of there's
is in meetings in the White House, cabinet meetings and
coordinating and also media and explaining what the president in
his administration is trying to do. This is just not
This is much worse now than the first term, particularly
the confirmation. It's got to end. So you either do
what Mike Lee does and you stick around and get
(42:30):
them done and grind more. You just do recess appointments
number one. Also, just looking down range, we're about to
start all we're at the end of July, in sixty days.
The appropriations bills are not going to get done. The
House is gone, they're not coming back, and they only
got a couple of days when they come back. Same
(42:50):
with the Senate. I can tag and see where the Senate,
I can tell you right now because they're using this
word bipartisan appropriations. We don't want bipartisan appropriations. That's not
what's set up doing when you win an election. We
don't want bipartisan we want quite partisan appropriations. We want
to cut spending dramatically and realign others. So it's going
(43:11):
in the right place. The Senate, I can tell you
right now, is working on a omnibus bill. What they're
gun to try to do is jam your President Trump
doesn't want his administration shut down. Obviously, you have to
have something done on the thirtieth best case. Now you're
going to get a ninety day cr that's the best case.
But I can tell you the Senate is going to
come with an omnibus, a nasty old omnibus. The recisions,
(43:35):
the pocket recisions, and the impowerments can go both for
twenty twenty five, which ends on September thirtieth, and for
twenty twenty six. If the appropriators don't get it done,
and now more than ever, we need russ Vote and
the guys over at Omab to come forth. Let's see
the pocket recisions hundreds of billions of dollars and have
them squale. Let's go to the courts. Otherwise, I'm telling
(43:57):
you on September thirty that you're going to have a
deficit that's going to be I don't know, over two
trillion dollars, and you're going to get hammered for that.
With a twenty six deficit that's going to be two
trillion dollars. The way to stop that, and Ron Johnson,
everybody's talked about it. The deal was, hey, we'd come
in with decisions, and the recision the nine point four Bayon,
(44:17):
which was symbolic, drew so much blood. That be a
way I don't want to go through that again. But
then hey, you don't have to go through it again
pocket recisions. Do that or just impound the frickin money.
Let's look, we're winning now, We're winning much more than
we're losing as you go up the food chain in
the courts. Let's roll the Impoundment Control Act of what
(44:39):
seventy three when Nixon had his back against the wall,
is totally unconstitutional. Let's go, let's hit it. That's as
bad as the as the fourteenth Amendment situation. So let's
just hit it. Let's go. We got warpowers Act, you
get that, you got a couple three Just let's go
challenge them. Otherwise, I'm telling you right now, you see
what the deficits are. The way to get the capital
(45:00):
markets even more responsive. They're liking what they see so far,
but you've got to have some some cuts. So much
going on in this Texas situation. I must spend the
rest of the afternoon on this. Will be back for
the evening show. Eric Prince is going to join us
the national security situation. There is some dark clouds forming
on the horizon, both in Gaza and Ukraine, as we've
(45:23):
worn you, in South China Sea and also places around
Venezuela or the Caribbean. There's a lot of dark clouds forming,
and Eric Prince is going to help us make it
all understandable, so you are empowered and understand what's happening
in this kind of the geopolitics of it all. Also,
Eric's got a lot to say about the Tulca Gabbard situation.
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How about a couple of purp walks in the next
couple of weeks. I think people feel a lot better
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a grand jury, a grand jury indictment on that. Charlie
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This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray
for our enemies because we're going to medieval on these people.
Here's not got a free shot. All these networks lying
about the people, the people have had a belly full
of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I
know you've tried to do everything in the world to
stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's
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going to happen. And where do people like that go
to share the big line?
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Mega media?
Speaker 1 (00:28):
I wish in my soul, I wish that any of
these people had a conscience. Ask yourself, what is my
task and what is my purpose? If that answer is
to save my country, this country.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Will be saved. Or here's your host, Stephen.
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in that. And so the bright Part interview I think
will start to come up tonight. Matt always does a
great job with that. President Trump for two hours, took
(03:00):
all comers on the from the press, Star Wars sitting
there going because you just never see world figures do this. Obviously,
the EU deal and I think Lutnik was on TV.
The letters are going out. They've got sixty percent of
the GDP right now. Besson's in Stockholm for two days
Monday Tuesday. He's coming back. They're going to the Brightbart
(03:22):
event on Wednesday. We're gonna stream that. That's a one
on one with Matt in the Secretary Treasury. But that
would be I don't know, pretty near the rest of it.
You still got a couple of countries out I don't
think we've announced the India deal yet. But President Trump
is making far greater progress than everybody ever thought in
reorganizing the world's commercial relationships, particularly with the United States.
(03:45):
And hey, as we said back at the beginning, he's
charging a premium to get through the Golden door. You
got two choices. Either bring manufacturing here or if you're
going to ship it in here, you're going to pay
a premium. And so you got a choice, and a
lot of people taking parts of both. But he did
drop a bomb today and this about the Ukraine situation.
(04:05):
We have two things heating up that kind of warned
about the net Nyahu situation in Gaza. I think finally
they've come to a conclusion because they've been doing these
massive kind of you know, they have a strategy, then
they go to another strategy. I think there's a consensus
at least from that now who they've got to take
care of the Muslim brotherhood and they have to do
it now, regardless of the hostages. Uh. And I think
(04:27):
you're hearing that they're going to rev that up. But
over in the Ukraine and this for all these guys
run around, all these pannikins they don't, you know, they
keep warning about the Third World War is here. The
killing fields of the Third World War are here and
bloodier than they were at the beginning of the Second
World War. Because that built her crescendo, We're kind of
starting with the crescendo. Ben Harnwell, He basically told Putin
(04:53):
there was a strike last night by Ukraine deep into
Russian territory, and Russia's been pounding a every day. Zelensky
is under a ton of pressure as we have been
doing everything we can to support those folks in Ukraine
that want to have an accounting for the money and
the corruption and the grift and all of it. But
(05:14):
President Trump dropped a bomb that Putin's got, i don't know,
ten or twelve days to make his mind up here,
which is kind of scary.
Speaker 4 (05:22):
Right, But the EU deal really guts a lot of
Russia's ability to sell cheap energy because the deal has
almost a trellion dollars I think of energy purchases.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
From the United States your assessment from Rome, sir.
Speaker 5 (05:38):
I think it's seven hundred and fifty a billion dollars
over the course of the rest of this administration, which
is a huge look I'm going to talk about the
tariff trade deal. But what Donald Trump has done is
absolutely fantastic and amazing, and it hasn't really cost the
United States very much at all. Macron has been hit
(06:01):
hardest with regards to the French agricultural export industry. But basically,
the Europeans just wanted to fold and give in. They
didn't want a trade war, and they haven't particularly been
required to demand of America that much. Is a pretty
one sided negotiation, and I have to say President Trump
(06:23):
handled it absolutely amazingly. I will just draw this point
because Nigra Farage mentioned it at the beginning of the
show that when Donald Trump went out, the protests were
hardly negligent this time around in this administration compared to
ten years ago, and he's all in. Nigrofarge also said
that there's been a turnaround and how the Brits view
(06:45):
Donald Trump. I just want to point out these trade concessions. Obviously,
the UK is no longer part of the EU, so
will have a different, hopefully more beneficial arrangement. But however
that works out, it's actually it will hit us in
continental Europe and the UK. What Donald Trump is doing
and Yet people here like Donald Trump, even though he's
(07:06):
objectively making our.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
Lives much more difficult.
Speaker 5 (07:10):
And I'd like just to throw the reason out is
that they see in Donald Trump a leader that is
putting the interest of his people first.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
That's what they want to see from their own governments.
Speaker 5 (07:20):
They're not really seeing it, but they respect that, even
to their own detriment. Just to close backets on that
there is something coming out of Ukraine and it is interesting.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
Slow down, I can't. This is what I was talking about, Nigel.
They're pulling at thirty four percent, which is really what
the Tories, the two parties have been around for one
for two hundred years, the other four hundred combined barely
with Nigel because they look at his constancy, in his
strength of putting his country first. This is what I mean.
(07:57):
Chris Matthews said the smartest thing over the weekend of everybody.
He said, hey, I don't care about some of these policies,
losing independence on some of these topics. They said. People
attracted the strength, particularly the day in a world in chaos,
in Trump is a tower of strength. You may not
like everything you get, but you realize he's always putting
the country's interests. First, is that what the Nigel's driving
(08:19):
off of is that what people are looking for, even
in Europe, Sir.
Speaker 5 (08:22):
Yeah, it is, it is. It absolutely is that. And
just to give Chris Matthews credit for once on his
analysis here you can see the pivot that the mainstream
media is belatedly making because this idea of a strong
man was pejorative in the mouths of the liberal progressive
(08:42):
elites for the last twenty years.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
That is how they really wanted to signal.
Speaker 5 (08:48):
In addition to the descriptor far right, but they really
wanted to indicate to people that they're not allowed to
like someone they called them a strong man. And here
you have Chris Matthews coming out saying that they are
attracked to. People are attracted to Donald Trump because he
represents strength. And what's not said, but of course you
can back project is that is the comparison with the
(09:09):
with the guy with the guy that Donald Trump replaced
Joe Biden, who I don't think did I mean Donald
Trump did two hours worth of interviews with Matt Boyle earlier.
I don't think Joe Biden did two hours worth of
interviews added together over the whole four years.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
And that's just like no, No, he took he took
to no. He took two hours of questions in a
press of Vale today was starmer there. He had another
hour with Mad Boyl beforehand, so three hours an hour
with Boyle. Then he took two hours of justin Presservale,
taking every question, you know, every question they can ask him,
the cheap shot questions and the tough ones. You don't
(09:46):
see anybody, I mean, forget Biden. You don't see anybody
in the world that can do that. Ben and and
hand all the topics in fairly, you know, fairly in
depth and give a sophisticated and nuanced approach to it.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Sir, Well, look, I tell you this.
Speaker 5 (10:03):
When I come on this show and I speak for
five or ten minutes, I spend all morning, and I'm
obviously six hours ahead of you guys in America. I
spend all morning preparing my notes. Just to be able
to speak for five minutes. It's an indication of Donald
Trump's the command that he has of the detail to
be able to hold basically three hours worth back to
back of in depth questions so freely, folks. That's a
(10:27):
very difficult thing to do. And people say his detractors
say that Donald Trump doesn't read briefing notes, not interested
in the detail. Anyone who wants to make that argument,
I defy you to go into a press pool and
take three hours worth of questions back to back, without notes,
without sort of tip offs, and what the questions, you know,
that's the difference the Democrats. Biden was always tipped off
(10:49):
what the questions were going to be. Donald Trump sits
there and he'll take all questions and he'll respond, and
I think actually shows an incredible command of the situation,
come on of details, and that, you know, having that
sense of command is why he's able when he puts
his mind to it, to determine and dictate the agenda.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
Let's go to this, the quite controversial throwdown with Putin
to say, hey, look, upon further review, it ain't forty
days left of the fifty, it's going to be ten
to twelve.
Speaker 6 (11:22):
Your thoughts, well, having spoken so generously thirty seconds ago, look,
I'm against this, and I have to say, and one
of the reasons I'm against this, in addition to the
motives I say every time I come on this show, Steve.
Speaker 7 (11:38):
Is this.
Speaker 5 (11:39):
You know, when I was reading this statement like ten
twenty minutes or so ago, because it's literally come out
since we've been on air. Donald Trump is now more invested.
You know, we said for months, he's got to be careful.
He's going to get dragged in. He's going to become
associated with this war.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
U grate he's going to take. It's going to be
his war. People are going to stop.
Speaker 5 (12:01):
Even though he continues to say it's Biden's war, people
are going to start considering it to be Trump's war.
It's gone beyond that.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
Now.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
He is more invested personally.
Speaker 5 (12:11):
With his name, his reputation in the outcome of this
war than Joe Biden was at any point in the
two years when he was still in the White House.
It's very dangerous what's taking place now. And all the
signals coming out of the Kremlin. When Donald Trump first
came out with his fifty days throwdown, all the signals
are is that they basically just blew him off publicly.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
So we don't care.
Speaker 5 (12:34):
You know, he can do what he wants. We're not
going to try and escalate the situation. But obviously America,
President Trump can do what he wants. He's continuing to
escalate this. I don't see I could be wrong. I'm
wrong all the time, but I don't see any indication
that from the Russians that they're going to crumple on
this in terms of threats of secondary tariffs, which is
(12:56):
going to which are going to hit the very people
that I think that Donald Trump is actually trying to
cultivate India. For example, in the European Union, who is
the country that trades most with Russia. It's Victor all Bands, Hungary.
These are guys that Donald Trump needs to continue to
build very strong relationship with, especially India.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
With regards to the bricks dynamic.
Speaker 5 (13:19):
We'll see how it takes, how it rolls out, but
there is after the breaks.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
If I do have something coming up here on.
Speaker 5 (13:24):
Ukraine, which I will highlight because it is an indication
of how Donald Trump is being and America is being
dragged further into this war in Ukraine.
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Perfect stick around with get Ben Hanold orn Cass. We
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Party across our favorite Scott Besson, our former contributor here
is in Stockholm even as we speak trying to hammer
out move the ball downfield on that orn. Cass from
(13:58):
Compass is put together a letter to let the President
and people in Capitol Hill know that there's certain situations
going on with these advanced chips that may not be
to the advantage of the United States of America and
may be a good time to think about it as
we negotiate this deal. Orangecastle join us. We've got Ben
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Okay, welcome back. I've got Orn cass On from Compass
and orders this kind of rising generation of populace, nationalist thinkers,
public intellectuals, economist. He runs Compass, the Great magazine and
website ORB. I should go check it out. So orin
this morning, there's a huge story in the Financial Times.
I don't think it's in my print edition. I think
(15:51):
it's only online from one of the smartest guys in
DC that covers the White House for Financial Times headline,
Donald Trump, it freezes export controls to secure trade deal
with China. You've been kind of ahead of this because
you've written this letter I want to get to the letter,
get what there's heavyweights that you brought onto this have
(16:14):
are worried about. And I want to put in the
context that Besent is in Stockholm right now. Trump just
announces the EU deal. Matt Bowles on here saying, hey,
right now he's got sixty percent of the world's economy
under some sort of new and some of us just
heads of terms or terms agreed, but they're hammering out
the details. The two big pieces I think we've got
(16:35):
to go are China and India. But you're saying, hey,
we've got a big problem here, deals with artificial intelligence,
the future of really the drivers of the world economy.
Walk us through both the article in this letter and
what your concerns are and the concerns of people you've
brought into this debate.
Speaker 9 (16:56):
Sir, Yeah, thanks for having me on to talk about this.
I think it's a super important issue. I want to
credit Americans for responsible innovation. Was did a lot of
the work on this bringing the letter together. We were
very proud to partner with them from American Compass, and
they got a lot of leading national security guys and gals, folks,
folks from the first Trump administration in a lot of
(17:17):
cases to call attention to this really important problem we're
having with China in particular. I think you just described
things well. Trump administration is making just huge progress on
these trade deals with countries that should be our allies,
with countries we do want to be trading with. The
question is what to do about China. And I think
you know, the endgame here is we don't need to
(17:39):
deal with China. China is our adversary. China is not
a country we want to be, you know, trading with
and trying to support. But what the Trump administration has
done very recently is attempt to essentially give the green
light to selling very advanced AI chips to China. It's
(18:01):
an interesting question why they're doing this. I think it's
because there are a lot of folks in the administration
who do want.
Speaker 8 (18:06):
To get a deal with China.
Speaker 9 (18:08):
But as we lay out in this letter, it's a
huge mistake. It is a mistake to think that we
can make a deal with China. It is a mistake
to think, hey, if we get our chips into China, well,
you know, then that's great, They'll start using our technology.
That is the game China has played with America over
and over again, and.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
We always lose.
Speaker 9 (18:28):
And the other reality is there's just there's a shortage
of AI chips. Every AI chip we sell to China
is one less AI chip that we have here in America.
So we're going to be simultaneously speeding up China's progress,
we're going to be slowing our progress. And frankly, the
winner here is in Vidia. You know, in Video is
a multinational corporation. They make great chips, but they've made
(18:49):
it very clear that they are much more interested in
making profit in China than they are in the American
national interest. And so I think there's a perfect example
where President Trump where the administration need to stand up
and say, no, we aren't going to do this. Send
our technology China, pan focus on America.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
Just for full disclosure, of course, in the war room,
myself personally in the war room, and American compass and yourselves,
and I think some of the other there's two schools
of thought, coupling and decoupling. I would say charitably we're
in the decoupling school of thought here about the about
(19:28):
the two economies. Is that correct?
Speaker 9 (19:30):
Absolutely? I decoupling is too friendly. I've I've moved on
to hard break, I think is what we need.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
So how do you so the people in Wall Street,
Silicon Valley, in the White House, and maybe even the
President of States would say, guys, I love that in theory,
but it's not practical. These two economies are industrictably linked
with capital technology. Uh. And what you're what you guys
are calling for is a is a global depression that
takes the economies down by ten or twenty percent, And
(20:02):
so to be some bridging network, We're not gonna let
them do all the chips. In fact that there's a
huge article I think in the Saturday FT before this
came out about the black market and even taking Navidia
chips and trying to upscale them. So orn casts and
Steve Bannon and others are great guys in the in
(20:23):
their in their patriots, but they're not practical. You can't,
you know, you can't have a coupling, much less orn
Cass's heart heartbreak or Bannon's let's have Lau Baijing overthrow
the CCP. What is your what is your response to that?
Speaker 9 (20:39):
Well, I think it's entirely practical to disentangle our economies.
It's certainly practical to do it in these areas where
we haven't even sold something before. It's not like we've
been selling advanced AI chips to China for the last
thirty years. This is something new, and the question is
are we going to allow it or not? And the
answer is obviously me no. And a good way to
(21:00):
see this is just flip it around. Let's imagine that
China had some advanced technology that was giving it a
huge leg up.
Speaker 8 (21:06):
Do we think for a moment.
Speaker 9 (21:08):
That that companies in China controlled by the CCP would
be saying, oh, please let us sell these chips to
the United States so we can make a little bit
more profit. Obviously not that that's already not the relationship
we have in one direction, because the Chinese get it.
The question is what is the relationship going to be
in the other direction? And you know, look, it's not
(21:29):
going to happen overnight. We we've spent a couple of
decades now making the wrong choice, getting our economies in tangle.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
We've always given them techno, always giving them technology. You're
letting them steal it. Let me go, let me take
this this. This also cuts to the heart of a
bigger debate, and that is this whole debate about renown
an arms race, that that AI can't have any regulation,
it can't the four Frontier labs and and you know,
people like Elon Musk and the guys at Open AI
(22:02):
and these people can't have any controls on them because
we're in an arms race for the most important technology
mankind's ever seen, and it's a national security issue. My
point is, if we didn't sell them the technology, or
let them know the processes or techniques, or give them
the capital, there wouldn't be a race. Am I wrong
in that? Is this issue right here about these Navidia chips,
(22:23):
which by the way, has a market cap of four
trillion dollars and a guy that runs it, and I
understand President Trump's quite enamored with him, but he has
a history of having a relationship with the Chinese Cameras Party.
If we took your direction, or we wouldn't have, there
would be no race for artificial intelligence, would there?
Speaker 3 (22:43):
Well?
Speaker 9 (22:43):
I think in the long run there will be a race.
But to your point, we are ahead on these critical technologies,
and if we commit to staying ahead, if we commit
to keeping these advanced chips for ourselves. That's a huge
step along the way to say we have to win
the race. And also we're selling a bunch of these
advanced chips to China.
Speaker 8 (23:03):
It doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 9 (23:04):
And by the way, if you're concerned about AI safety,
if you're thinking, gosh, let's think about the ways that AI,
you know, could be misused. I mean, guess who's not
worried about that. Guess who's not going to put on
those controls? The Chinese. So it makes no sense from
that angle either to be saying, well, let's, you know,
let's get these chips in there again, unless your top
priority is the profit of a couple of these companies.
(23:28):
And like you said, you know Jensen Wong's who's the
head of Nvidia. He has not been a good actor
in this. He has been frankly not telling the truth.
He's been claiming his chips aren't getting into China when
he knows they are. He just went and opened a
research center in China. This is the mistake we've been
playing over and over again, and and this is where
(23:48):
President Trump needs to be changing the game. The idea
that well, we got to back off because this is
what the corporations want That was never the right strategy.
And if there's ever gonna be an administration that's going
to fix this, it really has to be this one.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
Talk to me about the letter. The letter you as
a joint effort with you and another organization, you got
some pretty important signatures. What do you have, what is it?
What's the heart of what the letter says to President Trump?
And what do you hope to accomplish.
Speaker 9 (24:17):
Well, the heart of the letter is to emphasize that
this is fundamentally a.
Speaker 8 (24:20):
National security issue.
Speaker 9 (24:21):
That you know, there are plenty of different views on
trade policy and what deals we should make where, but
this is this is about more than trade. This is
a fundamental question of national security, and it is it
is doing two things at once. If we license these chips,
it's it's not just a question of whether we want
China to have the chips or not, and obviously we
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should not want that. It's also a question of whether
we're going to have enough chips for us. And so
it's this, it's this double effect both speeding China.
Speaker 8 (24:51):
Up and slowing us down.
Speaker 9 (24:53):
And the last point I think that makes it it's
really important is you know, we actually did restrict these
chips just a few months ago, and and now it
looks like, you know, Secretary Lutnik in the Commerce Department
has said, no, we're changing our mind, and that kind
of changing our mind, going back and forth. It makes
it very hard to enforce any export controls if people think, well.
Speaker 8 (25:12):
Maybe they're not serious.
Speaker 9 (25:13):
You know, maybe we shake some hands, maybe we say
some nice things, and it'll all change again. It's really
important to be consistent if we are going to be
credible in ourselves and in asking our partners in other
countries to all hold hands and stop selling this stuff
to the Chinese.
Speaker 8 (25:29):
So having a broad set of.
Speaker 9 (25:32):
Really senior national security folks, a lot of folks who
have worked in the Trump administration the first time around.
Speaker 8 (25:38):
You know, this is not an anti Trump letter.
Speaker 9 (25:41):
These are people who very much believe in support what
the Trump administration is trying to do. And the right
way to do that is not to keep, is not
to sell these chips. It's to do what we have
been doing and say no, we need to prevent their
sale to China.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
Real quick. Only get a minute, if we abide by
your letter, if the President took it under advisement and
said yeah, we're going to do this. I'm gonna go
along with Or and the guys. Would that Could that
be possibly the same equivalent of in the summer nineteen
forty one curtailing oil shipments to Japan that expedited Pearl Harbor, Sir.
Speaker 8 (26:18):
I don't think so.
Speaker 9 (26:19):
I think decoupling is really the way to step things
down with China.
Speaker 7 (26:23):
Here.
Speaker 9 (26:24):
If you look, when we had World Wars breakout, it
was within between countries that were doing an enormous amount
of trade. When did we actually have a staple situation?
It was between the US and the Soviet Union when
we said we have two different systems, we're going to
stay apart from each other, We're going to respect each
other's spears. And I think that is a best, much
better model for us to be heading to orn.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
Hang on for one second, I want to hold you
through the break just for a couple of minutes. Brian
Harrison from Austin, Texas, about this debacle in Texas. Ben
Harnwell still from Rome. We're we get it all done
in the war room on a Monday morning in July.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
Here's your host, Stephen K ban.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
Or real quickly. Do you think also that this situation
that we're going to try to have to bleed some
of these chips out is because the CCP has us
over the barrel on the processing of rare earths. We've
started a plant, it's going to be a couple of
years to get up and running. So the Magnets of
ball Bearings is that the underlying tension in this deal
that we got to give them some chips. Are they
going to cut us off from rare earth? And they
(27:25):
cut us off from rare earth the process once, like
the Magnets, production lines and automotive and other will be
shutting down in a couple of weeks, Sir.
Speaker 8 (27:33):
I definitely think that could be part of it.
Speaker 9 (27:36):
I think the reality is we have other options if
we need those rare earths sooner, and if it is
that critical, we should be doing a lot more than
seeing what we can bring online in a couple of years.
Speaker 8 (27:47):
But ultimately we should be taking this as a lesson.
Speaker 9 (27:50):
Everybody who said, oh it doesn't matter if stuff goes
to China if we're dependent on China, to now turn
around and say, oh, well, actually we are dependent on China,
so now you have to also let us sell our
fans day Eye Chips to China. I'm not persuaded. It
sounds like making a bigger mess than before.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
Orn, American Compass. Where do people go to get your
social media? Where they go to get the magazine, the website,
all this because you guys are at the cutting edge
of populist economic and cultural thinking.
Speaker 8 (28:19):
Sir, Well, thank you.
Speaker 9 (28:21):
I'm at Oran Underscore Casts on X. All of our
policy work is Americancompass dot org, our magazine is Commonplace
dot org, and our new book covering all of this
is The New Conservatives.
Speaker 7 (28:36):
Orn.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
Thank you so much. Great letter, great article in today's
Financial Times, and a huge issue. Thank you, sir for
being a bold leader with some guts.
Speaker 8 (28:46):
Well, thanks for thanks. Probably gonna shighlight it.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
Thank you. Very easy to roll over on this. This
is everything quite frankly at these chips. Brian Harrison joins
us from Texas. Brian, this mess gets worse now. The
redistioning is so big. President Trump's getting involved. Desanta steps
up and says we're going to do We're going to
do at least five in Florida. Now there's talk over
(29:11):
the weekend. I spend a lot of time with people.
I've been actually doing a mid decade census to get
this mess sorted. But in Texas this thing is getting
Are the Democrats running the entire process down there serving
this redistricting?
Speaker 10 (29:24):
It certainly certainly looks like that. I mean, I'll tell
you the quick updates. So the governor called us back
for a special session. Our special sessions in Texas to
last four weeks, so we are over twenty five percent,
over a quarter of the way through, completely wasted by
the way the Texas House has been on the floor
I think three or four times for a total of
twenty minutes. So I was able to do this for
(29:46):
my office today because we gabbled in at ten o'clock
and at ten oh four our Rhino speaker declared, quote,
the speaker's desk is clear. We haven't referred a single
bill to any committees. We've had no bills come out
of committee to the floor, and the redistricting front total
train wreck. I mean, once our Democrats elected the Republican
(30:07):
nominally Speaker of the Texas House, he rewarded them by
re writing the House rules to give them unprecedented power
in the history of the Texas House to effectively control
all of our committees, that includes the Redistricting Committee. So
we've had now between the House and Senate for redistricting hearings.
Hundreds of witnesses have testified. Zero were brought in to
(30:27):
support the redistricting. This has been a full on DNC
scripted infomercial against the President Trump's request to redistrict down here,
against the Texas Legislature taking action that would be beneficial
to not just the people of Texas, but the people
of America. And it's a complete outreage. We've had I
think three four to five members of Congress come down here,
(30:48):
of course in coordination with the DNC, including you know,
people like Jasmine Crocketts and Castro and others.
Speaker 3 (30:54):
These are the people that the Texas.
Speaker 10 (30:57):
Legislature are bringing in to come down and testify. So
hundreds of witnesses against full DNC scripting infomercial against the
redistricting effort. Zero Republican witnesses testifying that we.
Speaker 3 (31:10):
Should do it.
Speaker 10 (31:11):
And so what we've effectively allowed to have happened here
is hours and hours and hours of testimony into the
record with the Democrats pretending that this effort would be unconstitutional, illegal,
that would be explicitly racist, all completely preposterous in their efforts,
coordinated at the highest levels of the DNC, to undermine
the redistricting effort. And they've already succeeded in burning over
(31:32):
a quarter of our special session.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
So, like, who's in charge? Is Lieutenant Governor Patrick going
to get involved? Is Abbott? Are they? Are they hoping
the Senate save you?
Speaker 7 (31:43):
Guys?
Speaker 1 (31:43):
You've had hundreds of witnesses against and smearing everybody with
the worst charges possible with and people like Jasmine Crockett,
who's you know, such a piece of work? Right kind
of leading?
Speaker 10 (31:55):
This is the wos this the one who tried to
take away President Trump's secret surface protection a week before
he was shot. These are the people we're highlighting down here.
Speaker 1 (32:04):
So, but is somebody when is the adult supervision going
to start? I mean, you've only got three weeks left.
How are we going to turn this thing around? This
is a huge priority for everyone in the Republican Party
and the conservative movement, and is particularly high priority for
a guy named Donald J. Trump. So when is this
going to start getting turned around? And how is it
going to get turned around?
Speaker 7 (32:25):
Well?
Speaker 10 (32:25):
I hope it mean it should have already been turned around.
I mean, there should have been a clear message that
we're not going to tolerate the nonsense. But the problem is,
for close to two decades, Democrats, even though they get
routed at the ballot box by the voters of Texas
who re elected President Donald J. Trump in a fourteen
point landslide, there's almost two decades of precedents for turning
around and giving the Democrats the power to control the
(32:46):
legislative branch that they did not earn at the ballot box.
And we saw this just four years ago in twenty
twenty one, when the Democrats broke quorum and ran off
to Washington to hang out with Nancy Pelosi to keep
the state of Texas from passing election pegrity bills. And
we're already seeing this. I think fifteen Democrats fled the
state and many went to California. They were meeting with
Gavin Newsom, with holding press conferences with Gavin Newsom over
(33:09):
the weekend. Democrats in Texas, by the way, eleven of
the fifteen of these radical leftist Democrats are part of
the coalition that elected are supposedly Republican speaker, and they
do it with complete impunity because they know that for
years and years and years, they have been allowed to
thwart President Trump, Texas conservatives and Republican priorities without any
(33:32):
fear of retribution.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
So I'm sorry.
Speaker 10 (33:34):
If the state of Texas had the type of bold
conservative leadership that people and voters demanded that they deserve,
they would never try such things because they know they
wouldn't be allowed to get away with it. Now, there
should be swift consequences for any Democrats thwarting this process.
But not only are there not consequences for that, they're
basically being given the reins. But we're turning the Texas
Capital Channel into the DNC network programming, you know, almost
(33:57):
wall to wall every minute of these hearings. And I
hate to say this, that goes for both chambers, the
Texas House nor the Texas Senate has brought in one
single Republican to testify on the reasons that the state
of Texas should undergo this redistricting initiative, something that I
think we should do, somebody President Trump thinks we should
(34:18):
do in something that I leave millions and millions and
millions of the voters of Texas believe and know that
we should do.
Speaker 1 (34:25):
Brian, where can people go on your social media to
keep up with this. We're going to have you back
on tomorrow. This is something that I can tell you
from the absolute top. People want to be on top of.
So where do where do people go to keep in
touch with you?
Speaker 10 (34:40):
Yeah, if you want to see the only I hate
to say it, but it's the only medium providing of
the shows like you, the real truth coming out of
the swamp here in Austin. It's my social media at
Brian E. Harrison on X.
Speaker 4 (34:51):
Brian E.
Speaker 10 (34:52):
Harrison on X, please go like, follow, share, amplify because
the Austin, the Texas and of course the national media
are not telling the truth of what's going on down here.
They're kind of sweeping this under the rug because everybody
just just assumes that Republicans control Texas. But what they
don't know is that it's just people with the word
Republican buy their name. They're in control, but they've handed
the keys to the castle to Joe Biden, Kamala Harris,
(35:15):
Nancy Pelosi and the Party of Barack Obama. I mean,
for crying out loud, Barack Obama's former White House lawyer
is our House parliamentary and making sure that conservative legislation
dies here in the Texas legislature.
Speaker 2 (35:25):
So at Brian E.
Speaker 10 (35:26):
Harrison on X and I appreciate everything you, Steve and
the posse you're doing to keep the people not just
of Texas but America updating almost going on now.
Speaker 1 (35:34):
You know, Brian, if it was Biden, Kamala, Harris and Pelosi,
as bad as that would be, it wouldn't be as
bad as who they really turned it over to Crockett
and cashtro And they've turned it over to the Mandami,
the Mandamei element of New York right that really the
Working People's Party, the DSA, etc. This is as radical
(35:56):
as you can get and it's running the tables down
in Austin, Texas. So thank you will.
Speaker 10 (36:00):
Now, why do we have socialist Marxists being given airtime
courtesy of the Republican controlled government of Texas.
Speaker 1 (36:06):
It's lunacy, lunacy, Thank you sir. Great to be with you.
This Texas thing is out of control, folks. We're gonna
spend some time this week on getting to the bottom
of it, more on reporting on that where we're poured
out on that in the next couple of days. Ben
Harnwell back to Ukraine because we quite quickly could slide
(36:28):
into a bigger shooting war over there.
Speaker 5 (36:30):
Sir, Well, look, I think about six weeks ago when
Ukraine launched its drone attack on Russia's air force, part
of it it's nuclear triad. It did so largely from
drones which had been smuggled from Ukraine into Russia. What
happened over the last twenty four hours is different. It
(36:51):
was an attack deep inside Russia, but from long range
drones launched from Ukraine itself. Now, this is an attack
on Stavropol, which is about two hundred and thirty five
miles from the border, from the Ukraine Russia border, deep
into Russia long range drones. So obviously the first thing
(37:11):
I did when I read about this was I just
wanted to check what the distance was between the border
and Moscow itself, and the distance there is again in miles,
two hundred and eighty miles.
Speaker 3 (37:22):
Well within the range.
Speaker 5 (37:23):
Then that being the case, you know, inquiring minds would ask,
if Ukraine already has the capacity to strike with long
range drones deep inside Russia, why does it need.
Speaker 3 (37:40):
American produced long range missiles?
Speaker 5 (37:45):
And I don't mean to be cynical, but I would
suggest that the answer is because Ukraine's only possibility of
winning this war is by dragging the United States in
to the interkinetic engagement against Russia, something we've warned about
for three years. And my query, my hesitation, is that
(38:05):
being the case, why are again to ask the question
that the whole war impossibly will know the answer before
I've even finished the question.
Speaker 3 (38:13):
Why are elements inside the United.
Speaker 5 (38:15):
States actively trying to pressure the administration successfully into providing
these long range missiles to Ukraine? People like Lindsay Graham, right,
it is, This is the reason. It is because there's
an attempt, no strategic necessity whatsoever from the Ukrainian point
of view, but there's an attempt to get America into
(38:39):
this war. And that, Steve, is the backdrop between what
we were saying earlier on the show why everyone should
be very concerned that President Trump has brought forward his deadline,
his fifty day deadline.
Speaker 3 (38:53):
To ten to twelve days. I guess that was going
to be made more decisive.
Speaker 1 (38:58):
Okay, we got a minute love for you, we get
a minute left for you. How do you think this
thing plays out over the next ten to twelve days?
Because this is an audible that's going to have some ramification.
Speaker 7 (39:08):
Sir.
Speaker 5 (39:10):
Steve, I can only guess President Trump is doing this
because he has intel there's not publicly available that suggests
that Russia is going to climb down in a humiliating fashion.
I don't see any evidence of that. But you know,
he had fifty days to play with. You know, that
was a bit ambiguous. He could have just kicked it,
(39:32):
you know, he had just kicked it in someone into
the long grass.
Speaker 3 (39:36):
The fact that he's actively.
Speaker 5 (39:38):
Bringing this forward seems to me that he's playing a
game of chicken with Russia that he thinks he can win.
But as I say, he must be acting on intel
that he has, and that I don't to have that
conclusion because that's not what I'm reading on my analysis
of the facts.
Speaker 1 (39:55):
No, what the deal with the EU is a big
bloaw of the on energy. But I got to tell
you the secondary sent Maybe he's ready to put secondary
sanctions on China. I mean, you're negotiating in right now
in Sweden with China and you may put secondary sanctions
on them, which is about the oil that Russia sells
to them. Right now, all I know is I think
Russia's got a six hundred thousand man army that's ready
(40:16):
to roll for the summer. And I think their target
maybe Odessa ben Harnwell. Where do people keep up with you, sir?
And your social media?
Speaker 5 (40:24):
Thanks Steve on Geta, she'd be tapping my surname at
hahn Well, where as always I have some pretty provocative
posts at the top of my feed waiting your attention.
Thanks Steve, God bless catch you're.
Speaker 1 (40:37):
Putting your putting your cynical bead eyes ben Harnwell, Thank you, brother,
appreciate you. Wow.
Speaker 7 (40:45):
What a day.
Speaker 1 (40:48):
Boil from Scotland. President Trump's there two hours taking questions
from the media. Who can do that? Nobody only try short.
Speaker 2 (40:58):
Here's your host, Stephen and ka.
Speaker 1 (41:03):
A couple of things. Number one and when the Senate leaves,
I think they're going to leave here momentarily. I believe
CeNAT Releaset tells we have one hundred and thirty five
one hundred and fifty appointments ready to go for confirmations
right now. I think Fune and Johnson are working it
out that they do this novelty act where they keep
(41:27):
they keep in session by having somebody walk up and
do it for like thirty seconds a day. Bottom line,
they wouldn't actually go into recess. Some president trum Wind
gives receense appointments. They're getting all this done, and he's
got very few people confirmed yet that one thousand confirmations
means US attorneys. The judge is getting done. Emill Bovie
(41:47):
should be done Tuesday or Wednesday. Judge Janine is getting done.
But the Democrats, and this is a Democrat, this is
what Democrats are doing. They're essentially filibustering every one of
his nominations. And you got all these second and third
level of people under the cabinet heads and at these agencies,
and these are the folks who get the work done.
(42:09):
Not that the head guys don't, head men and women
don't do work. They do, but a lot of there's
is in meetings in the White House, cabinet meetings and
coordinating and also media and explaining what the president in
his administration is trying to do. This is just not
This is much worse now than the first term, particularly
the confirmation. It's got to end. So you either do
what Mike Lee does and you stick around and get
(42:30):
them done and grind more. You just do recess appointments
number one. Also, just looking down range, we're about to
start all we're at the end of July, in sixty days.
The appropriations bills are not going to get done. The
House is gone, they're not coming back, and they only
got a couple of days when they come back. Same
(42:50):
with the Senate. I can tag and see where the Senate,
I can tell you right now because they're using this
word bipartisan appropriations. We don't want bipartisan appropriations. That's not
what's set up doing when you win an election. We
don't want bipartisan we want quite partisan appropriations. We want
to cut spending dramatically and realign others. So it's going
(43:11):
in the right place. The Senate, I can tell you
right now, is working on a omnibus bill. What they're
gun to try to do is jam your President Trump
doesn't want his administration shut down. Obviously, you have to
have something done on the thirtieth best case. Now you're
going to get a ninety day cr that's the best case.
But I can tell you the Senate is going to
come with an omnibus, a nasty old omnibus. The recisions,
(43:35):
the pocket recisions, and the impowerments can go both for
twenty twenty five, which ends on September thirtieth, and for
twenty twenty six. If the appropriators don't get it done,
and now more than ever, we need russ Vote and
the guys over at Omab to come forth. Let's see
the pocket recisions hundreds of billions of dollars and have
them squale. Let's go to the courts. Otherwise, I'm telling
(43:57):
you on September thirty that you're going to have a
deficit that's going to be I don't know, over two
trillion dollars, and you're going to get hammered for that.
With a twenty six deficit that's going to be two
trillion dollars. The way to stop that, and Ron Johnson,
everybody's talked about it. The deal was, hey, we'd come
in with decisions, and the recision the nine point four Bayon,
(44:17):
which was symbolic, drew so much blood. That be a
way I don't want to go through that again. But
then hey, you don't have to go through it again
pocket recisions. Do that or just impound the frickin money.
Let's look, we're winning now, We're winning much more than
we're losing as you go up the food chain in
the courts. Let's roll the Impoundment Control Act of what
(44:39):
seventy three when Nixon had his back against the wall,
is totally unconstitutional. Let's go, let's hit it. That's as
bad as the as the fourteenth Amendment situation. So let's
just hit it. Let's go. We got warpowers Act, you
get that, you got a couple three Just let's go
challenge them. Otherwise, I'm telling you right now, you see
what the deficits are. The way to get the capital
(45:00):
markets even more responsive. They're liking what they see so far,
but you've got to have some some cuts. So much
going on in this Texas situation. I must spend the
rest of the afternoon on this. Will be back for
the evening show. Eric Prince is going to join us
the national security situation. There is some dark clouds forming
on the horizon, both in Gaza and Ukraine, as we've
(45:23):
worn you, in South China Sea and also places around
Venezuela or the Caribbean. There's a lot of dark clouds forming,
and Eric Prince is going to help us make it
all understandable, so you are empowered and understand what's happening
in this kind of the geopolitics of it all. Also,
Eric's got a lot to say about the Tulca Gabbard situation.
(45:46):
We got to get on with it. Let's stick the landing.
How about a couple of purp walks in the next
couple of weeks. I think people feel a lot better
if they saw so many cuffed and and you know,
a grand jury, a grand jury indictment on that. Charlie
Kirk's gonna follow us, Posto after that, Pasobic after that,
Steve Gruber, Eric Bowling, I'm gonna try to do if
(46:07):
I get the show done early enough, I'm gonna do
a hard hand over from I love doing that. If
we don't do, it's all because we're trying to put
the show together because of breaking news. Mike Lindell on
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