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October 10, 2025 49 mins

THE WAR ROOM WITH STEPHEN K. BANNON, OCTOBER 10TH, 2025

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Now, Israel's defense forces will move behind agreed upon lines
inside Gaza, and the ceasefire will take effect. Once the
IDF has moved to new positions, a seventy two hour
clock to release the remaining hostages will begin. President Trump
said yesterday he expects the hostages to be released on

(00:23):
Monday or Tuesday. The United States is preparing to send
about two hundred troops to Israel to help support and
monitor the ceasefire deal. They will not enter Gaza, but
they will be there to help with transportation and planning.
US forces will also help coordinate humanitarian and security assistance

(00:45):
into Gaza.

Speaker 2 (00:47):
The Nobel Peace Price for twenty twenty five goes to
a brave and committed champion of peace, to a woman
who keeps the flame of democracy burning amidst a growing darkness.

(01:08):
The Rwegian Nobel Committee has decided to award the Nobel
Peace Prize for twenty twenty five to Maria Corina Machado.
She is receiving the Nobel Peace Prize for her tireless
work promoting democratic rights for the people of Venezuela and

(01:32):
for her struggle to achieve a just and peaceful transition
from dictatorship to democracy. As the leader of the democratic
forces in Venezuela, Maria Corina Machado is one of the
most extraordinary examples of civilian courage in Latin America. In

(01:56):
recent times.

Speaker 3 (01:58):
Ms.

Speaker 2 (01:59):
Machado has been a key unifying figure in a political
opposition that was once deeply divided, and opposition that found
common ground in the demand for free election and representative government.

Speaker 4 (02:18):
This is nothing more than a continuation of the President's
desperate weaponization of our justice system. He is forcing federal
law enforcement agencies to do his bidding, all because I
did my job as the New York State Attorney General.
These charges are baseless, and the president's own public statements

(02:42):
make clear that his only goal is political retribution at
any cost. The President's actions are a grave violation of
our constitutional order and have drawn sharp criticism from members
of both parties. His decision to fire United States attorney
who refuse to bring charges against me and replace them

(03:05):
with someone who is blindly loyal not to the law
but to the President is antithetical to the bedrock principles
of our country.

Speaker 5 (03:15):
So she is now joining judges on the West Coast,
both in San Francisco, and in Portland, who have ruled
the exact same way with respect to the administration's use
of the military. I do think that the way that
you've been first talking about this, which is not as
a legal matter but sort of as a policy matter,
the idea of using the military unnecessarily and what standard

(03:38):
that sets, is the right way to look at it,
because it's sort of this is so unusual in this country,
and I think it sort of normalizes it to start
getting into the weeds on the law points. But since
I'm a lawyer, the law point here, and the real
thing that is notable is that Judge Immigrant in Portland
and now Judge Perry in Illinois are basically saying in

(04:03):
judicial words that they just don't believe the Trump administration,
that what they're doing is untethered to the facts on
the ground, whether that there's nothing that is happening in
either location that would justify bringing in the military, or.

Speaker 3 (04:20):
Just basically as Rais and Palsidians can no longer find
their way. I think out of this conflict alone, it
can no longer be solve at the level of the
two of them. All trust has been completely stripped from
the two sides especially after this war, and what you
see in Gaza is the outlines of basically a kind
of international mandate US, US allies, Arab partners working with

(04:45):
Paulsidians basically to build their capacity to govern Gaza and
to sure Israel also that under no conditions will Gaza
ever be able to threaten them. That kind of international
mandate for Gaza, if we're actually extended to the West Bank,
might be the foundation of building US a bridge back
to a two state solution.

Speaker 6 (05:06):
So I like it in the short term. I think
it's real potential in the long term too.

Speaker 7 (05:10):
How has this campaign like activity by the President and
his supporters domestically and internationally affected the deliberations and the
thinking in the committee?

Speaker 2 (05:21):
In the long history of the Nobel Peace Prize, I
think this committee have seen any type of campaign media attention.
We receive thousands and thousands of letters every year of
people wanting to say what for them leads to peace.
This committee sits in a room filled with the portraits
of all laureates, and that room is filled with both

(05:44):
courage and integrity. Sow we base only our decision on
the work and the will of Alfred Nobel.

Speaker 8 (05:51):
I think they started with James, Tommy, and this is
going to end with it with just James. You are
sadly mistaken. We are only eight months since this administration.
We have already seen a un US Center thrown to
the ground for trying to ask questions or press conference.
We have already seen a member of Congress indicted in
New Jersey.

Speaker 6 (06:07):
We have seen the.

Speaker 8 (06:08):
Controller of New York manhandled. We have now seen the
former of the former FBI director indicted at the direction
of the President. Now now the Attorney General of New York,
oh the arrested an.

Speaker 9 (06:20):
Older person in Chicago the other day for attempting.

Speaker 8 (06:23):
To ask questions. The days of the Department of Justice
and the rules that everyone keeps citing to me, Well,
the rules of this rules, those rules, that rule book
is god. Okay, those rules are God. This is a
unitary This is a president believes he controls the Department
of Justice, and he decides who's guilty, who's innocent, who
gets indicted, and who gets prosecuted. And if we don't
all wake up to that, then we're going to keep

(06:45):
having this conversation about who checked what box on a form?
Nothing about who checked what box on a form? Is
what this case is about.

Speaker 10 (06:52):
I mean, this is this is basic and yet Republicans,
whether you're talking about lawfare, whether you're talking about National
Guard going to different all of these things, they're setting
themselves up for a hard full down the road.

Speaker 11 (07:05):
Yeah, just go back as far as you want. This
is the way it works. This is what happens. And
the guard against doing that is norms. Right, there are
norms that are part of our system and this administration
breaks them willy nilly, and the Republican Party will regret

(07:27):
this down the road. It's just as simple as that.

Speaker 12 (07:30):
The good is that obviously the ceasefire is holding, the
ceasefire is working, and these people feel free to make
their way north. They are walking along a main seaside
route along the Mediterranean, heading north towards Gaza City. And
as you pointed out in the last hour, many of
them on foot for a number of different reasons. Either
too poured own a car, the fact that their cars

(07:51):
could have been destroyed in the war, but also their
cars could have been confiscated by Hamas during the war.
That happened quite a bit. And finally, a lot of
the roads so badly damaged after two years of fighting
on foot is the only way to travel. And you
can see many of these people carrying their belongings. Many
of them have been displaced multiple times during this war,
and as Brian noted, the clock has begun now seventy

(08:13):
two hours until Hamas has to release the hostages. That
would put the deadline at five am on Monday. Prime
Minister net And Yaho gave an address to nation a
short time ago. He said Hamas not only has to
give up all the hostages, but they will also have
to disarm.

Speaker 6 (08:30):
This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray
for our enemies because we're going to medieval.

Speaker 7 (08:38):
On these people.

Speaker 6 (08:40):
Here's not got a free shot. All these networks lying
about the people, the people have had a belly full
of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I
know you've tried to do everything in the world to
stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's
going to happen.

Speaker 12 (08:52):
And where do people like that go to share the
big line? Mega media? I wish in my soul, I
wish that any of these people at a conscience.

Speaker 6 (09:02):
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
If that answer is to save my country. This country
will be saved.

Speaker 11 (09:12):
War Room.

Speaker 6 (09:13):
Here's your host, Stephen K.

Speaker 13 (09:15):
Bath.

Speaker 6 (09:22):
It is Friday, tenth September, in the year of Warler,
twenty twenty five. Jack Bisoba is going to join me.
We got Jack for a little while. He's got to bounce. Jack.
Very special day for this country, in a very special
day for the turning point people, is it not, sir.

Speaker 14 (09:38):
Well, Steve, thanks so much for having me on.

Speaker 6 (09:41):
That's right.

Speaker 14 (09:41):
Today is one month marks one month since we saw
Charlie Kirk murdered by a leftist. You saw thousands of
leftists celebrating it in the wake of that disgusting murder
that took place.

Speaker 6 (09:58):
Millions millions, Utah millions.

Speaker 14 (10:00):
YouTube about tens of thousands, millions.

Speaker 6 (10:03):
And yeah, millions, come on.

Speaker 14 (10:05):
And in the wake of that, you know, we saw,
we saw incredible things happen. And by the way, the
mainstream media's response, you know, to to claim both sides
and and claim.

Speaker 6 (10:16):
That, oh what about right wing violence.

Speaker 14 (10:18):
I said, show me one instance of violence in the
wake of Charlie Kirk's murder from the right. Show me
what I'll pay you. I will pay you, I'll dare
you there's nothing. There's not one.

Speaker 6 (10:28):
We respond.

Speaker 14 (10:29):
We don't respond like that. We don't riot, we don't attack.
We have prayers, we have vigils, candlelight vigils. But what
we do respond with is government action, and that government
action is the Joint Terrorism Task Force the DJ And
of course everyone saw the Antiva round table that we
held a couple of days ago. But just just to
take it back, Steve, I, you know, I just wanted

(10:53):
to tell you, by the way, personally that you know,
when this all happened, I was on air, I was
hosting human Events daily, and we didn't know what the
status was.

Speaker 6 (11:02):
It was just a rumor at one.

Speaker 14 (11:03):
Point, and then we learned more and we learned more
and we learned more, and you were we were both
in d C at the time and had the opportunity
to come over and be in the war room together,
and I was just it's glad to be there in
the war room with you going through all this, and
it meant a lot. And you know, I don't know
what happened without without you being there, so I always

(11:26):
appreciate that.

Speaker 12 (11:26):
Man.

Speaker 6 (11:29):
Well, I thank you, and I think you know we
were going to go out together leave immediately to go
to Utah, and you made the right move and talking
to your partners and the folks at turning Point to
stay in DC and do media to make sure you
could explain it because they were misinterpreting right off the bat.
Charlie Kirk, you know, see's inflammatory of that. I think
you did a magnificent job. I also will tell you

(11:51):
going to Utah was a wake up call for me.
I had no idea but the issues in Utah. And
we'll drill on that in the days and weeks ahead,
but you know, Andrew and and and Tyler and the
entire team came up there. But Utah was a was
a wake up call for me of of how farsome
this radical like the armed was that the armquiers of

(12:12):
Salt Lake City, uh and others, and of course we
have an aplant and how prevalent John John Brown and
how prevalent. You know the situation in Saint George where
you have this other tranny that killed is who's a Mormon?
You know, these these these kids that fall out of
the Mormon church that he uh, he killed his parents

(12:34):
brutally and then burned the house down. I think he
killed himself too. It's just it's the radical nature of
what's going on. And this is why Cox I think
he's got some accountability here. What's happening to the school
system in Utah and uh, it's shocking. And Charlie Kirk
is an American hero and a patriot for going into
that the cockpit every day and fighting that and doing it.

(12:57):
And I think that's why his h his memory will
live on in his work. As the folks in Turning Point.
Every day we tossed, you know, we tossed the show
to him. What you guys are doing extraordinary. You had
what six thousand people in Montana state. I think the
other night. It continues to go and I think the
back had a huge Glenn Beck was off the charts
last night in North Dakota, right, So it continues. You'll

(13:19):
never be able to replace Charlie. When Andrew died, had
the truck board out. That truck board taught us a lot. Jack,
We got a lot to We don't have you for
a long time. We got a lot to go through.
I'm gonna take a commercial break. We got the Jack Pasobic.
It's one month since the death of one of the
greatest patriots of the twenty first century. Charlie Kirk. I

(13:40):
shouldn't say death the assassination in cold blood of one
of the greatest Americans of his era, of any age.
That would be Charlie Kirk. It's what I say with
Breitbart and Charlie Kirk, Andrew Breitbert, Charlie Kirk, Donald Trump.
These people come along once a generation of that, and

(14:01):
you've got to get everything out of them while they're here,
because you don't know when they're not going to be here.
Andrew Breitbart died of He had a bad heart from
the beginning, but died of a man with the heart
of a lion, but died of a bad heart in
what forty two or forty three? Charlie Kirk thirty one.
This is why it's so important. We have to get

(14:23):
everything out of Trump while we've got him, and I
mean everything. That's why I'm big on Trump. Twenty twenty eight.
Here's the thing about the Nobel Prize. If it was
not for President Trump, the opposition leader in Venezuela wouldn't
even exist. It's President Trump that has cleared a space
in Venezuela for her to actually operate. And yeah, she's brave, heroic,

(14:46):
But President Trump, I mean, come on, blessed are the peacemakers.
We're going to talk about it all with Jack Pasobic
next in the War.

Speaker 10 (14:56):
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Speaker 5 (15:01):
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Speaker 8 (15:02):
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Speaker 5 (15:03):
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Download the Getter app now, sign up for free and
be part of the new pot So Jack, I'm gonna
come back to Antifa in this court ruling yesterday for
delay for a couple of days. I want to go
to the peace steal. Obviously, the Nobel Prize, they're never
going to give it to Trump. They can't because then
it breaks the narrative. So they're not gonna They're not

(15:47):
gonna do that because then Trump will stay around past
twenty eight, So they're not gonna do that. Can I
call for this Fox footage? Jack? We saw a scene
this morning. I think it was not Fox. It's truly biblical,
right these are these are look right there. If we
can get that up on the main screen, you've got uh,

(16:08):
you've got look at that right there. For it's this
is people in Gaza heading from the south back up
to the north. Why it looks like it looks like
that scene in Gandhi when you remember in Pakistan and
India there are going to this is this is exodus
right here. Uh, these are folks. They're heading north. Why
they're heading north? Because the guy who did not win

(16:30):
the Nobel Pie Price for Peace is now calling the
shots here. Okay, President Trump has put together a deal.
And this is why the Israel First crowd has only
themselves to blame. I keep saying I was never a
two state solution. Guy fought against it. You have a
two state solution. They're heading up Gaza. That whole beach
right there you're seeing is going to be uh financed

(16:52):
by the golf Emirates, kut Uei and Saudi Arabia. A
complete redevelopment. The two million Eustein's are not leaving right
as the kind of inhumane drive them all out of Gaza,
which was so over the top to begin with. So
that's not going to happen. They're going to be there.
And now they've announced the Turks. The Turks are going

(17:15):
to be It's kind of the Ottoman Empire is coming south.
The Turks are going to provide the security overall overall security. Well, hey,
and the West banks out and quite frankly, they're talking
about the Persians. President Trump wants to expand the Abraham Accords. Now,
why is this happening. You have to go back in time.
If you look at our first trip to the Middle
East in May of twenty seventeen, and if then if

(17:39):
you look at the Abraham Accords, which Jared Kusher was
the architect of, then if you look at the meeting
in the spring with the Golf Emirates there, President Trump
going back, and now if you look at this deal,
these are these are kind of business and based on
commercial That's what the whole thing we're talking about. That
put the politics aside, because the politics always gets in

(18:00):
Vendetta is and all that. These are deep seated commercial
relationships that are expanding. That's where the Abraham Accords is.
You've had businessmen and financiers. You've had wid Cough, You've
had Jered Chusher, You've had Donald Trump. They're not politicians, okay.
And Dermer and BB have been off to the side.
They haven't even asked in this thing. They're not even
asking what the Israelis want. Just I'm gonna give you

(18:21):
cold facts, not that cheerleading that Tel Aviv Levin in
this crowd who basically brought this on the Nation of Israel.
Because those are hard, cold facts. You see that that
right there is biblical. They're heading north, and they're heading north.
They ain't leaving, okay. And how do we get in
this situation? You have one group to blame. You have

(18:42):
Netnaho and the America first, the israel first crowd over
here that put Israel's interest in netna Who's political interest
ahead of the United States of America and the Nation
of Israel and the Israeli people. So you got what
you got and that ain't never leaving. Okay. Just I
know you can w toys I pram today netya who's

(19:02):
huffing and puffing if this doesn't happen. We're going to
do it the hard way. That's all a guy. President Trump,
I think he's got a concept when he negotiates, not
in the room, not in the deal, and Dermer and
these guys were not in the room. Jack Pasobic, you're
over now. We have a couple of issues like this
two hundred troops, but it has been reaffirmed by the
White House that morning. Joe was wrong. The two hundred

(19:24):
troops are sen coon troops. I think they're going to
do it at a Doha. I put it up last night.
They're going to kind of manage. They're essentially what Marine was,
logistics officers and enlisted noncommissioned officers. But it's it's a
logistics nightmare. And you know, the IDF is too punched out,
too tired, and quite frankly, probably not trusted by the

(19:45):
Arab nations enough. So the Americans are going to have
some sort of coordinating role at a macro level. But
the Turks, they said, Turks cutter ue, particularly UAE, which
probably got the best fighting for us over there. Jack,
are really providing the day to days troops that are
going to do this with the idea of your your
your thoughts about where we are overall on this, sir.

Speaker 14 (20:08):
Well, Stephen, mean, it remains to be seen, of course,
you know, it's incredible the deal. Everyone said it couldn't
be done. This is a testament to Steve Witcoff, the
fact that this was able to get done the way
that it was by bringing the our world together, in
bringing the Turks in as well Tom Barrack, Tom Barrack
up there in in Turkey. And they said it couldn't

(20:30):
be done, and and and.

Speaker 6 (20:34):
Kushner, because if you hadn't done the Abraham Accords, if
you hadn't had this this, there are times.

Speaker 14 (20:41):
Abraham Awards with the predicate for all.

Speaker 6 (20:43):
Predict yes, the predicant for all. In the Spring meeting
in the Spring meetings in Riot and Riot and dohat.
Sometimes it seemed like a tupperwork convention. I mean they
were so excited, they're cheering, and they're all talking about
deals to talk about in relationships, uh, commercial flights. This
thing is the reason it's able to get done. It

(21:05):
is a commercial relationships and a business deal by businessman
of financiers and not politicians. This should be your big takeaway.
And they didn't want to hear what Nettino had to
say about this, Yeah, go ahead, sir.

Speaker 14 (21:18):
There reminded me of when when when Donald Trump went
to North Korea to meet Kim Jong un and and
he didn't talk about nuclear and talk about the P
six plus one talks like Obama and all the neoliberals
were talking about. He said, he said, look at this
coastline you.

Speaker 6 (21:34):
Got up in North Korea.

Speaker 14 (21:35):
Man, you could have some incredible seaside resorts up here
with the bikini girls and the speedboats and all the rest.
He looked at it like a businessman. He looked at
it and said, what could it become? And you know
he says the exact same thing with that. That's the
East med that's some of the most beautiful and by
the way, it's year round, it's year round temperate climate.

(21:56):
It's an incredible climate obviously Mediterranean. This is place that
you take you know, you make it peaceful. It could
actually be an incredible spot for all of that. Now,
obviously you know that's getting ahead of ourselves, but that's
what a businessman's vision is when it comes down to it.
Steve this, it's all about execution, It's all about will
this be executed properly. Are people going to be able

(22:17):
to stick with the peace deal? The leaders of Hamas
are they gonna are they gonna bug out? Are they
gonna take the money and walk away? And and I'll
say this, by the way, just from my own perspective,
and I'm not speaking for anyone on this, but I
want to make sure that the Christians are taken care
of in this area because I know that this is
that's a topic that seems to get overlooked often when

(22:38):
you talk about and I understand it's it's it's it's
you know, Jewish and Muslim are the majorities, but there
is a significant Christians or He's minority, and they need
they need to be kept safe, Steve Hold. They need
to be kept safe. They need student minority rights, they
need to guarantees. And by the way, the rebuilding of

(22:59):
every single church and Christian holy site that has been
affected by this war or damaged by this war needs
to be completely covered.

Speaker 6 (23:09):
Jack Hang, I agree with you, but I don't think
it's far enough. Right now, that's a proto two state solution.
It just is if the Golf Emirates and the Arabs
are putting the money in and you got the Turks
and providing the security and remember we're not there is
some sort of I think implicit security guarantee at least
at the beginning to get it done. Now that it's
been reinforced for the White House that morning, George is wrong.

(23:31):
These two hundred troops are not going to Israel. They're
certainly not going to Gaza. They're going to remain in
Senkam territory, I think Doha and do a coordinating factor
as mokate. This is enormously complicated and I don't think
the Arab armies are up to the logistics. And like
I said, the IDF, I'm sure it is going to
be in there helping and assisting, but they're pretty punched

(23:51):
out right now right. I think they're the first to
admit that. The IDF guy was cried today when he
announced it. The IDF spokesman, I think I put that
up Ontre actually had tears a day. These guys, that
army has been has fought for two years almost constantly,
right or for at least for that, maybe not in
the first six months, but they have had a tough

(24:11):
ride against those thirty four members the Muslim Brotherhood got
thirty four hard combat divisions. Er, I shouldn't say divisions
got thirty four. I think brigades in Gaza, and these
guys have had to go up against them. I think
taken out the leadership of all of it. But Jack,
I think it was going to be a two state solution.

(24:32):
Why not a three state solution? Why is there not
a Christian state? And I realized, you know you're a
Catholic nationalist as I am. I think you've got to
start talking about the architecture. It's going to be a
two state solution. Why do we not have a Christian
state that has some official responsibility for the Christian sites,
the sites of our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ. Why

(24:54):
we using an intermediar if they're going to have a
two state solution, of which we fought for years. But hey,
they brought it on themselves. The Tel Aviv Levin crowd
in this you got it right there. You see those
you see that biblical shot. Those people are not leaving.
The two million Palestinians are not leaving, and they're going
to have their own state financed by the Gulf Emirates
and secured by an Arab Army and the Turks. Okay,

(25:18):
that's just reality. That's going to happen, and it's happening
right now. So if you got that, Jack Posovic, why
why did we not have a Christian state in the
levant that oversees and can protect the Christian sites if
you got two one, not three.

Speaker 14 (25:36):
Look, Steve, I'm I'm I'm right there with you. I mean,
obviously it would come down that you'd need some kind
of Christian military force. Look, this has been tried, right,
We did this in the Crusades. We did the Kingdom
of Jerusalem. You had the European Christians come down and
they held the Kingdom of Jerusalem for about three hundred years,
by the way, and it was you know, it was
there and it ruled you know, prior to prior to

(25:58):
the Califa coming in or after the Califad you know,
came in. But you know, it's uh, it's something I'd
love to see, Steve. I've got a punch headed out
to headed out to New Jersey for the rally this evening.
Give give us your cordens, give us your course.

Speaker 6 (26:13):
Absolutely praying for the Christians.

Speaker 14 (26:14):
Okay, the rally, wild Wood, what's your social mat everyone's
there at Jack Pasobic and Human Events Daily.

Speaker 6 (26:22):
Four to seven. We're live here in Real America's Voice.
The entire war Room show is going to be Benny Johnson,
Jack Pasobic, uh maloney, the whole crowd from Pennsylvania's pressler
that turned, that delivered Pennsylvania the turning point. Guys, all
of it four to seven a day, live only on
Real America's Voice, and of course five to seven War

(26:44):
Room in Depth. Jack Pasofic, Thank you, sir, can Jack
Pasovic head the New Kingdom of Jerusalem. Need a third state, folks,
you got two. Let's go in a third sure break.

Speaker 14 (27:00):
Room.

Speaker 6 (27:01):
Here's your host, Stephen k.

Speaker 13 (27:03):
Bath.

Speaker 6 (27:07):
Okay, Doctor Gina Loudon joins us from the Morning show
because we're gonna get to in a second. Got kind
of a shout out from Joe Rogan and his team
on the Joe Rogan Experience. I think yesterday. I'll get
to that a second. Can we put the b roll
up of the Biblical because this thing is it's it's
kind of breathtaking. Doctor Jenny, you're one of the more

(27:28):
devout people I know. You have quite frankly, if it
wasn't for you and David Brody, we wouldn't really even
had a broadcast for what ten or eleven hours or
Charlie Kirk's memorial service. Remember one month ago today, Charlie
was assassinated because doctor Jina, you knew all the music
and the singers and all that. What do you think
of my idea of hey, if you got two states,
which we fought forever, but if because the way this

(27:52):
was handled now the Arabs, the golf farmers are in
their finance. You see the two men, they're not going anywhere.
That whole plan of getting met the Gaza not going
to happen. You're going to have a proto two state
solution from the beginning. If you've got a two state solution,
want the Christians get I mean, it's the holy sites
of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ and the foundation

(28:14):
of the Christian Church. Why not a third state? Ma'am?

Speaker 9 (28:19):
Well, first, thanks for having me, Steve, and thanks for
all you do and also biggest condolences. I can't believe
it's been a month. It feels like ten years and
it feels like an hour. It's just it's crazy, the
time passage since Charlie's assassination. But Steve, listen, three state solution.
I am all in. I have always wondered why we
in this generation, Steve, are neglecting our God given responsibility

(28:44):
to protect the Christian sites that are eroding and being
destroyed every single day all over the Middle East. And
many of us don't even realize. You go to Israel today,
you can't even really go to Bethlehem. There are a
lot of areas you can't even go to because they're
too dangerous and they are being destroyed as we speak.
So I love the three states solution. I'm all in

(29:05):
anything I can do. Seve Bannon, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (29:08):
I'm in.

Speaker 6 (29:10):
Fine, we're kicking it off today. By the way, the
church was a desert church in Egypt and Syria, Antioch,
all of it because of the huge persecution of the
Christians in the years thirty three to thirty six. They
made a decision at thirty six the Apostolic fathers that
you didn't have to be Jewish and convert, that actually
gentiles could become Christians. So yeah, at the bottom line

(29:32):
is it was going to be two states. Why is
it just the Muslims and the Jews. It is the
beginning of our church, and in Iraq it's been destroyed.
In Egypt has been destroyed, in Syria it's been destroyed.
And we got to protect the sites and the holiest
sites we have those are all the churches and cathedrals
and the monasteries with the desert fathers and all the

(29:54):
hermits and monks that really kept Christianity alive and going right.
You need you need a Christian state in the Levant,
and you need a Christian state. And if Israel is
going to be divided now between two states, that's what's
going to happen. Understand, this is happening now. Don't let
any happy talker spin or you know BB got everything
you wanted. Well, hey, what he did. He's got a

(30:17):
two state solution and they're going to block any further
development of the of Judea and Samaria. And so now
it's time to put on the table a Christian state.
I have additional work for you here and I want.
In a normal news cycle, this would be huge and
would drive drive the drive the new cycle for two days.
But we're overwhelmed with world historical news. But Joe Rogan,

(30:39):
the Joe Rogan experience, understood the importance of this. Let's
go and play. Joe Rogan will get doctor Gina back.

Speaker 13 (30:46):
We've seen like what they tried to do to her. Uh,
they put her on the Quiet Skyes thing. So they
put her on a terrorist watch list. She was a
US congresswoman for eight years. She served overseas in a
medical unit, right, so she was deployed twice in a
medical unit in the middle of the more and you

(31:08):
you're labeling her a terrorist, like whoever did that? Like
whoever signed off on that should be jail. That's crazy.
That's such an abuse, that's such an abusive power. And
you want to talk about like going after your political
enemies in a sick third world country way. That's a
great example that you put a congresswoman for eight years

(31:32):
and the terrorists watched for.

Speaker 6 (31:33):
What for what reason? None, no reason.

Speaker 13 (31:37):
There's not like some crazy tweets where she's made and
there's nothing like she's so it's not even like Margaertie
Taylor Green who gets hog wild sometimes she's not like aggressive. Yeah,
she's a little aggressive, like Telsea's.

Speaker 6 (31:50):
Not like that at all.

Speaker 13 (31:52):
You put her on a terrorist watch list.

Speaker 6 (31:55):
Shame on you, Shame on you.

Speaker 13 (31:58):
She's the director of National Intelligence.

Speaker 6 (32:00):
Easy right, Yeah, boy, it's weird how that happened. Yeah,
that's fantastic, Doctor Gina, you were with Tulsea Gabbert on
a terror I want you to want people to embrace this.
Doctor Gina allowed one of the sunniest, you know, sunshine personality,
one of the nicest people I know, has been one
of the founders of the Tea Party movement, very close

(32:21):
to Sarah Palin at the time, who was kind of
Trump before Trump. It didn't materialize like that eventually, but
you know, people, everybody was all in for Palin and
Michelle Backman and all the team. If we hadn't had
that Tea Party movement from the financial collapse of two
thousand and eight, really starting in the spring of two
thousand and nine on tax Day April fifteenth, which you know,
you had Jim Hoff and Michael Patrick, leahy Uh and

(32:43):
Jenny Beth Martin and all these folks that that came together.
I think those twelve or fifteenth Hennessy, all those twelve
to fifteen people came together. But they put you on
a terror watch list, ma'am. And Joe Rogan understands the
scale of this. The question is tell us about it,
and more importantly, what are you going to do about it? Ma'am?

Speaker 9 (33:05):
Well, it was started under Obama, Steve. I want to
remind folks of that this has been going on for
a long long time, and you know we're talking about
no warrants, no probable cause, zero transparency. You may have
been on that list and you may not even know,
and the fact that it happened to someone like Tulci Gabbert.
The one thing that Joe Rogan missed is the whole

(33:26):
reason for it. She was a political enemy. She was
a turncoat on the Democrats. They will never forgive her
and they wanted to get her for that. Now, many
of us that were on the list, that are on
the list, you know, we didn't even know why. We
didn't know what we did. I still don't to this
day know what I did to get on a terror
watch list, Steve. But the bottom line is that I

(33:49):
think Tulsi would say, I don't want to speak for her,
but just knowing her heart, she would say, the real
travesty are just the normal American citizens that still sit
on this list. And let's not forget that Tina Peters
and other Jay six there's an other people who were
surveiled and who were arrested for no good.

Speaker 6 (34:08):
Reasons still sit there.

Speaker 9 (34:11):
But right, let's not forget.

Speaker 6 (34:12):
But just like hang on, just like Peter, we're gonna
get to Letitia James a minute. The when the hunters,
when the hunt had become the hunters. Okay, uh, you
just like Peter Navarro, they went on an airplane and
pulled you off the airplane like a common criminal, right
in front of everybody, and then chased you around. They
treated you like a common criminal because they thought they

(34:33):
could break you. They thought they could break the j
six people. They thought they could break Navara, they thought
they could break me. They thought they could break Donald Trump.
And guess what, they were not kind of wrong. They
were dead wrong. And we're now in charge. And that's
why Letitia James, we're gonna make an announcement here. There's
gonna be a superseding indictment on her. What you've seen
now and just like a coomi, this is appetizers, right,

(34:54):
this is a little thing to get it into the
court process. So what are you gonna sue? Are you
gonna talk to Tallsea? You're gonna a class action suit?
What are you working on behind the scenes.

Speaker 9 (35:04):
I would love to sue. I would love to be
part of a class action suit with normal American citizens
who are surveiled for absolutely no reason. But I'll tell
you what else. People need to go to jail for this.
There need to be absolute prosecutions and arrests on this.
No more mamsy pamsy congressional hearings and speeches about this.
All right, we want arrests on this. This is wrong.

(35:26):
This has been going on for too long, and it
will continue if we don't demand arrests. When normal American
citizens can be surveilled, can be arrested, can be put
on terror watch lists while there are while there are
sanctuary states, Steve letting real criminals into their states, and
you have innocent American citizens sitting in jail and suffering

(35:49):
other consequences, jobs, businesses.

Speaker 1 (35:52):
You know.

Speaker 9 (35:54):
Thank god that Rob Zigg saw fit to hire me,
because what would I have done as a reporter that
could fly on an airplane? You know, And that's nothing
compared to what normal American families have gone through. If
we don't fix this, Steve and the new administration, when
there is another administration, when there is a Democrat elected,
because someday again there will be I hope it's not soon,

(36:16):
but God only knows the consequences that innocent Americans will
suffer if people don't go to jail.

Speaker 6 (36:21):
Now we have to make sure on our watch now
that never happens. We have to destroy the Democratic Party.
It's destroying the seut but we have to expose it.
For the group of Marxist Jiahades, they are I love
that j exposition. We just hold that shot. You got
the morning sunshine of doctor Gina in the dark specter
of the war room. It's free. I like how sig
I like how Rob Siege is talked through the programming

(36:43):
here where you all you get up in the morning
to the bright sunshine and then all of a sudden the
dark clouds come and doctor Gina. Where do people get
the show? What's your social media? What are your coordinates?
What are your coordinates?

Speaker 9 (36:55):
Yeah, while I'm doing Club forty seven tonight, which you
know is a fun one to do. On my new
book book called Dan Helping Kids Memorize Scripture and Love
for you guys to go out and get our new book.
I wrote it with doctor James Moseley, he's amazing. The
Bible History guy will be there tonight. My social is
at Real doctor Gina on virtually every social media out there,

(37:17):
and you can catch me mornings on American Sunrise.

Speaker 6 (37:22):
Hang on, you're gonna be I love Club forty seven.
Club forty amazing, folks is one of the important It's amazing.
I tell you when I gave that talk there a
couple of years ago that they stood in the break.
I love you, they stood in the breach. These people,
these people are these people are amazing. You give him
a shout out tonight, tell them we love it. I
love to get him back up here in the show.
So where do people go for Club forty seven for

(37:43):
your And you're you're releasing your new book about teaching
kids to memorize Bible verse.

Speaker 9 (37:49):
Yeah, memorized scripture. It's the first children's book in a
series of twenty that I wrote with the Bible History guy,
Jim Moseley and from Liberty University, ironically, and we are
just trying to you know, you remember things knewmonically when
you're a child, if you memorize them then so that's
the whole idea is to make it fun. We did
it with the illustrator from Veggie Tails, Mike's Sofka, and

(38:12):
so it's beautiful and it's fun and it's interactive and
if people are gonna love it, and you can find
all that on my website at doctor Gina's show, if
you want to go there. It's all over my social too.

Speaker 6 (38:24):
Doctor Gina Loudon, thank you so much for joining us
this morning. Thank you for being a patriot and going
through dot. Think about that, Doctor Geena Louder loud and
Tulsi Garber put on a terror watch list. A terror
watch list. That's how the deep state rolls. That's say
the administrative state roles, ma'am, thank you so much.

Speaker 9 (38:41):
Bless you, my friend, thank you.

Speaker 6 (38:44):
Thank you. This is why you got to get on
this now, you got with this apparatus has to be
taken down now. Doctor Jenia's right now, I don't think
I think the math is showing you. Unless they steal elections,
they can't win. They know that. That's why everything the
Democrats are doing around illegal aliens, the entire redistioning fight,

(39:04):
the redistioning wars are going through now. And the issue
about the gun decked census of twenty twenty, which Stephen
Miller and I said, the time is going to be
gun decked unless we specifically make sure that illegal aliens
can't be counted. Well, Wilbur Ross and the Commerce Department
folded like cheap suits on that when we didn't have to.

(39:26):
The whole fight for redistricting right now is about illegal aliens.
Everything's happening in Portland and happening in Chicago is about
mass deportations of illegal aliens. And these neo confederates, these insurrectionists.
I'm talking about the mayors and the governor trying to
stop a federal law enforcement officers and ice officers from
basically executing on federal law. The government shutdown, the Schumer

(39:51):
shutdown is about wait for it, wait for it, illegal aliens.
They want a trallion dollars for illegal alien health care.
And they've got all kinds of ways they hide it,
and it goes through the hospitals and through the emergency rooms.
But that's what it's about. Anyway, were gonna take a
short commercial break. We're gonna talk about Letitia James, big
Tish James and all yammering last night about oh, she

(40:13):
didn't do anythings, She just checked the wrong box.

Speaker 5 (40:15):
Yo.

Speaker 6 (40:16):
Well, she did plenty wrong, Okay. I think the charges
against her now or are pretty substantial for you know,
decades in prison. But there's more coming. The brilliant filmmaker
Joe Gilbert's laid it all out. I think it's up
with the Gateway pundit. He's looked into the facts, he's
looked into the details. What he will tell you will
shock you. And we'll show you what a superseding indictment

(40:38):
that sends Big Tiss James away for a long, long time.
Short commercial break, We're gonna be back in the warm
in just a moment.

Speaker 16 (40:46):
Let's take get down for the world on the Hop Kong.
We will fight to the hop con we were really swim.
Let us take down.

Speaker 4 (40:57):
Let's this is nothing more than a continuation of the
President's desperate weaponization of our justice system. He is forcing
federal law enforcement agencies to do his bidding, all because
I did my job as the New York State Attorney General.

(41:19):
These charges are baseless, and the president's own public statements
make clear that his only goal is political retribution at
any cost. The president's actions are a grave violation of
our constitutional order and have drawn sharp criticism from members
of both parties. His decision to fire a United States

(41:42):
attorney who refuse to bring charges against me and replace
them with someone who is blindly loyal not to the
law but to the President is antithetical to the bedrock
principles of our country.

Speaker 17 (41:57):
The people rendered their verdict in all this lawfare on
last Tuesday, one week ago, and like I have worked
on for years and years and years, the whole country
came together, working class people all over came together and
they rejected what's going on in this court, what's going
on with President Trump. The law fair of Tish James

(42:18):
and Alvin Bragg and Jack Smith.

Speaker 15 (42:21):
And Merrick Garland has been rejected by a landslide by
the American people. So the one thing I have to
say to Merrick Garland, Lisa Monico, Jack Smith, Tish James,
Alvin Bragg, you wait, the.

Speaker 13 (42:35):
Hunted are about to become the hunters. Thank you very much.

Speaker 6 (42:42):
The hunted have become the hunters. Big Tish baby, you
have no earthy idea. What's about to be dropped on
your head? And so Weissman and Stephanie Rule and Nicole Wallace,
all you people winging and whining Glenn Thross over the
New York Times. Baby, when we roll, we roll hard.
She's a common crook, okay, and she tried to put

(43:03):
Trump away for a couple of hundred years. We bring
in the great Joe Gilbert, and folks just sit back,
have a get yourself a big cup of Warpath coffee,
and enjoy this segment.

Speaker 2 (43:14):
Joe.

Speaker 6 (43:15):
One thing I'll tell you about Gilbert. When he gets
on something, it's like a dog on a bone. Okay.
So Joel Matossa, you've got a great piece up and
Gateway punted the Jim Hoff the great Gateway punted. But
take it from the top, because they're all saying, last night, oh,
does we even know about this one? This was nothing
and they're implying there's nothing else there or we have

(43:36):
no other case. I say, there's a superseding indictment coming
with a whole lot more. Walk us through it, sir.

Speaker 18 (43:44):
Okay, Well I can start walking you through by telling
you that the Democrats threw up black prosecutors Alvin Bragg,
Fanny Willis, and Letitia James to go after Donald Trump
on charges that they knew would not stick. So they
looked at these Black prosecutor as cannon fodder. They simply
sacrificed them, knowing that they would probably go down for

(44:05):
what they were doing. Sure Enough, Tis James probably should
not have been charging Donald Trump with trumped up charges
of mortgage fraud in New York, given the fact that
New York is a public record state, and that all
of her mortgages for forty three years were online for
myself for anybody else to pull up. And what I
found is a pattern of mortgage fraud going all the

(44:28):
way back to nineteen eighty three, when she was only
twenty four years old. She purchased her first home with
her father, claiming that her father was her husband. They
purchased it his husband and wife in order to help
Leticia qualify for a mortgage that she was not entitled to.
Letitia continued this pattern of mortgage fraud with her building

(44:48):
in Brooklyn. She bought a four story, five unit apartment
building and for twenty four years she told the banks
it was either four units or one unit, even though
the certificate of occupancy the building said it was five units.
Now this is very significant because if you have four
units or less, you get a residential mortgage rate which
is lower. You also get almost no closing costs. Five

(45:13):
units are higher like Letitia had, you get high interest
rates and very high closing costs. So Letitia gained the
system in New York. She also didn't register for rent stabilization,
which she was supposed to do every year, and she
simply had. Her building is a crime scene, and she
defrauded and scammed banks for twenty four years to save

(45:33):
money she wasn't entitled to. Meanwhile, she bought three homes
in the state of Virginia, where her mother was from.
Every one of those three homes there's mortgage fraud. She
buys a foreclosure with her aunt and then she doesn't
appear on the deed, which is illegal. She buys a
house at Sterling Avenue in Northfrook, Virginia, and she explicitly says,

(45:54):
I bought this for my niece's children to make us
think that, oh, she's trying to.

Speaker 6 (45:59):
Help little kids.

Speaker 18 (46:00):
Well, her niece's two children are adult, convicted felons. One
of them is an absconder from justice with an arrest
warrant out in North Carolina. So Letitia bought the property
specifically to harbor a fugitive now on that property, my
colleague Sam Antar pointed out that Leticia claimed that would
be her primary residence. It was actually rejected by the

(46:21):
bank nine times. They would not approve the loan. The
tenth time Letitia says that's going to be my primary residence,
it gets approved, and that was illegal because she got
the mortgage and lower interest rates because she'd be the
primary resident. The indictment by miss Halligan yesterday revolves around
the third property on Perna Avenue, and on that property,

(46:44):
she took out a specialized loan that specifically said Letitia
had to either live there or use it as a
second residence. She was not allowed to rent it out.
Sure enough, Letitia simply rented it out. So that was
really the opening shot. Because that's the small it's bank
fraud charges with thirty years in prison for bank fraud.
But I believe there's and my sources tell me there's

(47:07):
more indictments coming. This is just the tip of the
iceberg because the Sterling property in Virginia, she explicitly got
rejected nine times before she said okay, it'll be my
primary residence. Back in New York. It's a separate grand jury,
separate jurisdiction, and it's twenty four years of mortgage fraud.
The most recent was twenty twenty one with a credit

(47:28):
line mortgage from Citizens Bank. She took out a two
hundred thousand credit line loan from Citizens Bank in twenty
twenty one, well within the statute limitations, saying that it
was a one family dwelling one family instead of five.
That was fraud, and again she got it camp loan.

Speaker 6 (47:50):
Hang on one second, we're gonna hold Joe Gilbert through
the top of the eleven o'clock hour. We're also going
to talk about we've got a lot going on with
Marine Corps two fifty. We're getting that Kurt Mills is
going to join us about the peace deal in the
Middle East. That President Trump should have been awarded the
Nobel Peace Prize, but obviously he's not. They're not going
to do that. What Joel Gilbert is telling you what

(48:13):
the mainstream media and Stephanie Rule kind of not your
best moment. You're you're you're you're you're an investment banker.
Your show revolves around getting to the numbers. You should
have Joel Gilbert on and let Joel Gilbert tiss James
actively worked in every property she owned to defraud banks okay,

(48:34):
or defraud the government from the taxes they do. This
baby's big tish going away for a long long time
so they can cry and throw the toys out of
the pram. But it's happening. The hunted become the hunters
here in the war room. Next
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