THE WAR ROOM WITH STEPHEN K. BANNON, OCTOBER 17TH, 2025 (EP.#4858)

THE WAR ROOM WITH STEPHEN K. BANNON

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REP. BRIAN HARRISON

TINA DESCOVICH

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MATT PALUMBO

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:02):
This is the primal scream of a dying regime.

Speaker 2 (00:07):
Pray for our enemies because we're going to medieval on
these people.

Speaker 1 (00:12):
You's not got a free shot.

Speaker 2 (00:13):
All these networks lying about the people, the people have had.

Speaker 1 (00:17):
A belly full of it. I know you don't like
hearing that. I know you tried to do everything in
the world to stop that, but you're not going to
stop it. It's going to happen.

Speaker 3 (00:23):
And where do people like that go to share the
big line? Mega media?

Speaker 4 (00:28):
I wish in my soul, I wish that any of
these people had a conscience.

Speaker 1 (00:34):
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?

Speaker 5 (00:37):
If that answer is to save my country, this country.

Speaker 1 (00:42):
Will be saved. War Room, use your host, Stephen k.

Speaker 2 (00:47):
Man, Friday, seventeen October, yere Verler, twenty twenty five.

Speaker 1 (00:53):
So much going on today, Let's just get with it.

Speaker 2 (00:54):
Look the coalition that won in twenty twenty four, courses,
the Pope listen, nationalists of the original MAGA movement.

Speaker 1 (01:02):
We're bringing new allies.

Speaker 2 (01:04):
Make America healthy again, right, Nicole Shanahan and Bobby Kennedy,
and of course the Parents' rights movement that a lot
of folks that were not Maggart, you know, didn't want
to hear Trump's name. We got in there, and you know,
moms or America Moms are delivery. These groups are amazing.
I do want to say, I'm glad they're in Florida.
No need to come to Texas because Texas is fine, right,
no teachers union, best education. I mean, give me some

(01:28):
some good stats here.

Speaker 6 (01:29):
I wish, I wish I could. It's going to break
my heart.

Speaker 5 (01:31):
But you know, a lot of people think a lot
of things about Texas, But bab, I.

Speaker 2 (01:34):
Think you've got a great education system, no teachers union,
and you and the parents are running the deal as
they should.

Speaker 6 (01:40):
Let me break your heart, Fran. Okay, and this is
going to break hearts.

Speaker 5 (01:43):
It's going to make people mad, especially if you pay
taxes in the state of Texas.

Speaker 6 (01:45):
Okay.

Speaker 5 (01:46):
The left has understood that if they can take over
the education, this.

Speaker 1 (01:49):
Is an understandment, inerration, Amen.

Speaker 6 (01:51):
They can change the whole surjectory of.

Speaker 1 (01:54):
The Bolsheviks knew it. That's comes from Marxism, right.

Speaker 6 (01:56):
And so the conservative is we're about a generation behind.

Speaker 5 (01:58):
We're playing ketchup in President Trump gets this, but Texas
elected officials, unfortunately don't. And this is I was shocked
to learn when I got elected down here, only twenty
four percent, Steve of Texas eighth raders are proficient in reading.
Only twenty three percent of Texas eighth raders are proficient
in mathematics.

Speaker 6 (02:15):
And not only do we still have teachers.

Speaker 1 (02:17):
This sounds like Chicago, Yeah, not Texas.

Speaker 5 (02:19):
Not even a quarter and we're spending nineteen thousand dollars
per kid per year in tax dollars and not even
a quarter are proficient in reading and math.

Speaker 6 (02:27):
But here's the worst part of it.

Speaker 5 (02:28):
It's not just the education rates are plumbting because the
left took over liberal indoctrinations on the rise. And not
only has Texas not gotten rid of teacher unions, the state.

Speaker 1 (02:37):
Said the unions down here in Texas, and.

Speaker 5 (02:38):
Oh, we've got teacher it's a myth that Texas doesn't
have teacher unions. Not only do we have them, but
the Texas government is forcing as we speak, the hard
working over tax men and women of the state of
Texas are funding the teacher unions. Every time you pay
property taxes in Texas, your money is going to leftist
in doctrination, including the teacher unions. And by the way,
it's not a Republican Democrats split in Texas. It's freedom

(03:01):
versus tyranny. It's conservative versus liberal. And a massive chunk
of elected Republicans in Texas so called. When I got
elected four years ago, maybe a quarter of the Republican
caucus in the Texas House was literally endorsed by Randy
one garden teacher.

Speaker 2 (03:13):
So here, here's one thing I want to ask West Texas,
which is one of the true patriots of the salt
of the earth.

Speaker 1 (03:20):
I mean, this is the backbone of America.

Speaker 2 (03:22):
When I looked at the Republicans and how they voted,
you said where they're actually all teacher union Democrats. They
just call themselves Republicans so they can get in, but
they're all Democrats and they're all supported by Randy Wininguarden.

Speaker 5 (03:33):
In a weird way, we're sort of cursed by our
own success and how conservative Texas is. These radical leftist
Democrats they know they wouldn't have a snowball's chance of
getting elected if they ran as the liberal Democrats, so
they put the word Republican by their name, but they
still go run around and take teacher union money and
push leftists indoctrination in our kids, and this is absolute outrage.
We got a banned, taxpayer funded lobbing. We still haven't
done that.

Speaker 2 (03:53):
You talk about indoctrination. Steve Cortez joins us. Steve, we
started with the speech of Peter Navarro on populist nationalist
policies in the lines den of the Council on Foreign Relations.
We were going to cut live to you for your speech.
You're up at the Davos of really North America up
in Toronto, but we had a scheduling issue.

Speaker 1 (04:13):
They said no, they saw what Cortex was going to say.
No speech. What's happening up there? Brother?

Speaker 7 (04:19):
Well, but I did get interviewed on stage, so I
did present, but I was sent out effectively with a
minder right with an interviewer who I think was to
some degree trying to babysit this populous nationalist crazy man
from the United States.

Speaker 3 (04:33):
And yes, Steve, this is really.

Speaker 7 (04:34):
The Davos of the Americas, it's the form of the Americas.
This is the Toronto Global Forum. It's a really impressive
group of people, by the way, I mean a bunch
of CEOs, a bunch of top government officials from all
over the Americas. But it's clearly, as the name would imply,
it is a very globalist place, a place that is
very frustrated with America first, frustrated with President Trump and

(04:54):
with our newfound.

Speaker 3 (04:55):
Guts when it comes to trade.

Speaker 7 (04:57):
So what I did from the stage today, and I
will credit them again for an audience that generally doesn't
agree with us on very much. I will credit them
for at least giving me the opportunity to make our
case on trade. But what I tried to counsel them about,
these international business folks and politicians, is that populism.

Speaker 3 (05:14):
Is here to stay in the United States. It's clearly
not a fas okay.

Speaker 7 (05:16):
This is a new era, and the populism is either
going to be the populism of the left, which by
the way, all of you powerful folks will absolutely detest, okay.
Or it's going to be the populism of the right.
It's going to be our version of patriotic nationalism. It's
going to be maga populism. But it's either or in
my view, it's binary. So stop wishing that we're going

(05:37):
to return to a prior era, because we are not
going back to the twenty fifteen Republican Party.

Speaker 3 (05:42):
We're not going back.

Speaker 7 (05:43):
To twenty fifteen in previous American constructs and policies. We're
not going back to that quote so called free trade
era in which American workers got completely abused by the
rest of the world, not just by China, by the way,
that's the worst abuse, but even by our supposed ally
and that we have an entirely new economic regime that's chaotic.

(06:04):
It's hard for people to deal with because it's volatile,
but it's the reality, and it's right.

Speaker 3 (06:08):
It's just for the United States.

Speaker 7 (06:10):
And so I tried as pleasantly as I could to
make that powerful populist nationalist case to an audience that is,
frankly not all that receptive.

Speaker 2 (06:18):
You've got Navarro has been invited to the councilor of
Farm Relations, which is the inner sanctum of the globalist
in the United States. You've got you've been invited up
to this Davos of North America up in Toronto. Are
they trying to actually listen and say, we see these
guys coming?

Speaker 1 (06:34):
Can you see this in DC all.

Speaker 2 (06:35):
The time where they'll take a meeting, Oh, they'll listen,
But the entire time the wheels are spinning to get
We need a work around, right, because Trump's just a
passing summer storm. You know, Bannon and Cortes and Navarro
and the Harrisons, they all go away when Trump goes away.
So we just got to figure out We've got to
listen to these guys and figure out how to wait

(06:55):
them out.

Speaker 1 (06:55):
Is that what they're trying to do?

Speaker 2 (06:56):
You think they're actually being open that Mondame and Luigi
Mangoni have now awakened these guys, the fact that the
left populism has bullets, guillotines and appropriation of their wealth
where we're trying to build an entrepreneurial society.

Speaker 7 (07:13):
Yeah, now, listen, I think unfortunately I take the more
cynical view that for now they still think, can we
last another three years effectively and get past this era
of Trump and then things will be just fine.

Speaker 3 (07:25):
But again I'm.

Speaker 7 (07:26):
Here to try to tell them the opposite, that populist
nationalism in the United States is bigger than just President Trump. He's,
of course the indispensable leader of our movement, but it's
bigger than him. It predated him, it will go on
beyond the Trump presidency. And again yet to your point. Look,
it's either going to be the populism of the left,
which comes with a knock at the door and a

(07:46):
confiscation of your wealth and your freedom, or it's going
to be our version of populism, which is all about
building a prosperous society, which is making sure that wealth
is dispersed throughout the country, making sure that families can
thrive on one single income. I talked to the audience
today actually about that aspect, and I think just from
the looks in people's faces, they were sort of shocked
that I would even mention that.

Speaker 3 (08:06):
I think they view that as somehow retrograde.

Speaker 7 (08:08):
And look, we're not telling anybody they can't go to
work if they can't be a two parent working family,
but we're saying, but America should have the option. And
the fact of the matter is, when I was a boy,
which wasn't that long ago, the typical middle class family
in America could do that, could thrive on a single income.

Speaker 3 (08:24):
Why can't that happen today.

Speaker 7 (08:25):
Well, one of the reasons is terrible trade policies one
of the absolute driving reasons. And we are not going
to relent on this. We're going to create the society
we want. We're going to create the kind of broadly
dispersed prosperity that we deserve. And again I'm warning them,
this is no phase. This is an era. It is
a new era in America. And if you want to
interact with this new era in America, you better come

(08:48):
to terms with it, and you better be reciprocal to
our goods and services into your country, and be prepared,
no matter how reciprocal you are, be prepared to pay
a toll. You have to pay for access to the
jewel consumer market of the world. We have earned that
right as Americans, through hundreds of years of sweat and
toil and innovation. We have earned the right to charge

(09:09):
a toll, a correct toll to get in and have
access to the American market.

Speaker 2 (09:14):
Cortes, what is all your You've got documentaries coming out,
interviews coming out, writing's coming out.

Speaker 1 (09:19):
Where do people go to get all of it?

Speaker 3 (09:21):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (09:21):
Please go to Cortes Investigates dot com. I've got a
new trailer up, new Maha documentary backing RFK Junior that's
going to be out on Monday. Cortes Investigates dot com.

Speaker 1 (09:32):
Thank you, brother.

Speaker 2 (09:33):
Toti is a coalition Maha the Parents' rights movement, hardcore
MAGA populist nationalists. Let's go in when we talk about
going after and making sure that the left is deconstructed.
Here the tip of the spears, Palumbo and these what's
happening at Treasury? What's happening at irs? Matt? How serious
is this threat now that George Soros is kind of

(09:56):
off the playing field?

Speaker 1 (09:57):
How big a threat? Do you actually see the sun?

Speaker 2 (10:00):
Any kind of a Putz or is he somebody who
should take even more serious than the dad?

Speaker 8 (10:05):
He definitely sounds like a Putts, but I don't think
he actually is. He just doesn't exactly have a talent
for public speaking. But you know, he's not a dumb
guy like his father. He had been learning from his
father for a while, you know, his entire life, and
had been accompanying him on trips all around the world
and meeting with people like Hillary Clinton from a very
young age. And there's actually a funny anecdote I found

(10:29):
when researching for the book. In the early two thousands,
his father called him the Apprentice and was actually referencing
Donald Trump's TV show at the time. And you know,
obviously could never have imagined that twenty years later he
would be the one going after them. But you know,
so he was in June twenty twenty three that Alex
Soros took over the OSF, and I remember when it

(10:53):
happened because I had just predicted on a show ten
minutes prior that he would take over, and it was
like the first time one of my predictions ever really
panned out. But in researching for the book, I found
that it seems like he really took over European operations
of the Open Society Foundation as early as twenty fifteen,

(11:14):
so a lot of the activities there and really the
past decade were Alex.

Speaker 1 (11:18):
Alex took over the board of.

Speaker 8 (11:20):
The Open Society Foundations in December of twenty twenty two,
and probably had outsized influence before then, so he already
was running the show to a very large extent. But
even George is still maintaining some political control, and we
know that he's still meddling because he still runs his
hedge fund and had been making headlines ahead of the
twenty twenty four election where the Biden FCC FAC fast

(11:44):
tracked his purchase of a number of radio stations ahead
of the election at a rate that our current FCC
chair says was unprecedented and also is going to be
looked into. So he is still manipulating. You know, he
still has influence behind the scenes, probably both with the
Open Society Foundation even though Alex is running it, but
even through his hedge fund, he's still pulling the strings politically.

Speaker 1 (12:08):
Well. Now he's in the gun sights of the.

Speaker 2 (12:11):
Treasury Department I rs and so we're going to see
a lot of action, I know, as they try to
bob and weave. But Scott Besson's on the program. When
does the book come out? Can we get the cover
and put up where do people pre order the book?
This is another one we want to drive like Navarro's
and Eric Trump's. We need as a movement to drive
this to top of the New York Times bestseller list.

(12:32):
Palombo's done the original book on Soroce so I think
it's the best bio investigative bio. Now he's come out
with The Apprentice, which is the Kid, and that kid's
got a lot of stroke with the amount of money
they've got and the connections they have and the radical left,
and they're financing a lot of it. This guy's quite dangerous.
So where do you go for the book? Plumbo?

Speaker 8 (12:51):
So it's I guess they always say wherever books are sold,
but Amazon's probably ninety nine percent of that at this point.
It's out October twenty eighth, and if the last book
I sold, I think the first week three or four
times as many as you need to be in the
New York Times bestseller list. And they actually snubbed it,
so they took No, they don't like what I have

(13:12):
to say, but I guess it's worth another shot this time.

Speaker 2 (13:15):
No, we got to make it too big to rig.
The same thing happened in Var this time. That's what
they do because they don't want the book.

Speaker 1 (13:20):
To get momentum. What's your social media brother? What's your coordinates? Twitter?
Is Matt polumber twelve.

Speaker 8 (13:26):
It's the best Twitter account that gets no engagement. And
obviously that the header I need to update. The books
actually got bumped up in when it's going to come out,
So October twenty eighth, not December ninth.

Speaker 1 (13:37):
Okay, go there, go there now, and let's pre order.
Thank you sir. I'm glad they're moving up to date.
People want to get to this now.

Speaker 3 (13:43):
Yep.

Speaker 9 (13:43):
Thanks, y so great, just because Scott Bessant is getting
their minds right over the IRS about going after the
enemies of the American people, people like the Sources and
All Ties Foundation, all these guys Arabella them been funding this.

Speaker 2 (13:59):
Ratdical left, the radical takeover the United States of America
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Speaker 10 (15:00):
It's my favorite part of the show, Money Power, Politics,
And right now, one of the biggest financial issues for
millions of Americans, doesn't matter who they vote for, is
soaring electric bills that seem to have no limit. According
to the Washington Post, average bills have jumped over ten
percent since last year, and more than a dozen states,
with some seeing increases beyond twenty percent, and more rate

(15:21):
hikes have already been announced. Many Americans are blaming their lawmakers,
saying they should do something, and those very lawmakers have
turned around and placed the blame on data centers that
support tech companies AI projects. But it might not be
that simple. How this has become a political and economic
issue for people in places like Virginia and New Jersey

(15:44):
that are about to elect new governors.

Speaker 6 (15:47):
It hasn't become an enormous issue in the race.

Speaker 11 (15:50):
For governor, and it's bubbled up from the grassroots, from
the local level. The first place I found somebody losing
election over their support for data centers is a Prince
William County, Virginia, and I've covered a couple of races.

Speaker 3 (16:03):
In that county last week.

Speaker 11 (16:04):
Republicans and Democrats agree to elect them, they'll stop data
centers they don't have buy in from the Republicans is
leading the ticket.

Speaker 3 (16:11):
Same thing in New Jersey.

Speaker 11 (16:12):
Republicans in both states are taking a position that if
you don't like your energy bills, don't worry about the
data centers they create jobs.

Speaker 1 (16:19):
We should just be.

Speaker 6 (16:22):
A source of energy.

Speaker 11 (16:23):
Democrats are starting to listen to activists who say, what
is the benefit of having tax subsidies and the carve
outs for data centers in our communities? Dozens in Virginia
this year that won permits. Why not slow this down?
Why not build these somewhere else. Democrats are starting to
listen to this first, but they don't want to be
seen as anti tech or anti growth. They want to
be seen as grow cheap bills, and let's slow this down.

(16:47):
Let's make the companies the biggest companies in the world
at the moment who are building these centers, Let's make
them pay more to the state if they.

Speaker 6 (16:53):
Want to build it.

Speaker 11 (16:54):
And they want to cast some hassle to take up
some prime land.

Speaker 10 (16:58):
President by these infrastructure included money to upgrade grids, but
the current administration has already ruled that back. So tech
firms are going to have private power, But what about
the rest of us.

Speaker 4 (17:12):
I just think the economics goes a little bit differently here.

Speaker 12 (17:15):
So you know, this is basically the electricity is the
new eggs. What happened with eggs, of course, was we've
got the bird flu. We didn't have as many eggs
as people wanted, and.

Speaker 6 (17:26):
We had to figure out our way out of that.

Speaker 4 (17:28):
Actually, markets are a remarkably good way of doing this.

Speaker 6 (17:31):
What happened was.

Speaker 1 (17:32):
Prices went up, and when the price of.

Speaker 6 (17:34):
X goes up, you know what farmers start to do.

Speaker 3 (17:36):
They start to get a whole lot more chickens.

Speaker 4 (17:38):
And we're basically at the first part point in that
egg shortage right now, which is people are after a
lot of electricity, this time for the power.

Speaker 6 (17:45):
Grid, this time for AI. What are they going to do?
Are using a lot of it?

Speaker 1 (17:50):
The price goes up?

Speaker 3 (17:51):
What's the next stage of this game?

Speaker 1 (17:53):
The next stage is that if.

Speaker 4 (17:54):
It becomes really profitable to generate electricity, people are going
to enter the market. And just like prices came back down,
these electricity prices are going to come back down. So
I'm a little less worried about this and some of
the folks who are voting in the elections that day us.

Speaker 1 (18:09):
Following, Okay, I want to bring to Dave Walsh.

Speaker 2 (18:12):
I'm very honored the fact that the war Room has
been at the cutting edge of this for the last
couple of years.

Speaker 1 (18:17):
And one thing is Stephanie Rule. We watch our show
every night.

Speaker 2 (18:20):
I think it's a great show, except for that Australian
economists I think is at the University of Michigan. He's
always dead wrong and everything that kind of wrong, dead wrong.
Walsh's the here's they obsvcate this thing. This is a
scam built upon a bigger scam. This all gets to
the net zero carbon What the elites is this insane

(18:43):
response to a phony climate crisis. Then they went to this.
You've seen it in Germany. You were so great about
warning us about France and Germany. What was happening. You've
got this, first off, the problem they got us into
with the scam of climate change in a course renewables.

Speaker 1 (19:01):
Okay, Now on.

Speaker 2 (19:02):
Top of that, now that the tech oligarchs are here,
all a sudden they don't talk climate change. You've got
to now ramp it up as quickly as possible.

Speaker 1 (19:09):
And I will tell you in Arizona and in Texas
you're starting to see it.

Speaker 2 (19:14):
Arizona particularly, you've had a grassroots revolt against these data centers.
One for the massive electrical usage which they're looking at
the citizens underwrite.

Speaker 1 (19:24):
Also water, the huge use of water.

Speaker 2 (19:27):
And I'm telling you Arizona and Texas, which are not
playing in this kind of national conversation like New Jersey is,
because I think this could be the thing that shifts
the direction actually win us.

Speaker 1 (19:37):
The governorship is this issue.

Speaker 2 (19:38):
But walk us through why this is a scam built
on an even bigger scam, Sir.

Speaker 13 (19:44):
Okay, Steve, there are two issues going on at the
same time. The first issue is the massive uplift and
electricity prices because of the mass adoption of very costly renewables,
very costly part time renewabals. We've already seen forty two,
forty five percent rate increases occur here and in places
like Texas.

Speaker 1 (20:05):
Rep.

Speaker 13 (20:05):
Parrison can affirm this in Aircot because of the massive
adoption of expensive, expensive renewables coming into the system that
provide very little meaningful base load electricity and especially nighttime
or early morning electricity. So we have that going on,
and that's right now. The bigger part of the rate
increases is politicians hiding behind on both sides of the aisle,

(20:26):
hiding behind AI. That that's caused the rate increases. To date,
it really hasn't. That's yet to come. That's issue too,
but stage one has been two hundred and fifty million
Americans are in regions Aircot, Miso, cirqu West, Circu East
Cirk Florida who have Aircot who have gone ahead and
attempted to swap out their entire electrical system for renewables

(20:50):
in the last eight or nine years, are in the
middle of doing that, and that comes at a huge,
huge cost to ratepayers.

Speaker 6 (20:56):
That's been supported on a bipartisan basis. If you've got
how politicians hut in my back.

Speaker 13 (21:06):
The AI issue is a little bit different because what
that involves is AI firms taking advantage of public or
utility systems allowing them to plug in.

Speaker 6 (21:17):
You know, let's take a place like where I live.

Speaker 13 (21:19):
You've got a twelve thousand megawatt grid of duke energy.
If an AI firm comes with a thousand Megawa need.
Guess what the utility needs to build a two and
a half billion dollar gas plant to support that. That
cost gets spread over all the ratepayers such that the
new user only pays one to twelveth of that.

Speaker 6 (21:39):
That's a problem.

Speaker 13 (21:40):
Problem B is the rates for them are fifty percent lower. Here,
they're twenty five percent lower. Nationally, they're fifty percent lower.

Speaker 1 (21:48):
Okay, hang on, but I want to go to me
the heart of it.

Speaker 2 (21:52):
When it was just the consumer and the average schmo, right,
the tech oligarchs because they're all progressive lefties.

Speaker 1 (21:58):
It was all a climate crist and you had to
have renewables.

Speaker 2 (22:01):
If it's going to cost more, well that's what it
costs to save the plants you're gonna pay for When
it comes to AI and it comes to what they need,
which is energy and water. Hey, they're talking about many
nuclear reactors, they're talking about gas plants.

Speaker 1 (22:13):
They don't care.

Speaker 2 (22:14):
I don't hear any I don't hear any big thing
that we need more wind farms for the AI.

Speaker 1 (22:18):
They're not prepared to go down.

Speaker 2 (22:20):
Something that that's not sustainable, right, I mean, you're seeing
a total shift, and this is what galls me. The
same guys that put in money for these left wing
politicians to basically have a net carbon zero and that
was their big religion when it comes to their own
money and it comes to they now woken up to
the fact that hey, if we're going to compete with China,
we need massive amounts of power. I don't hear any

(22:41):
wind farms. I don't hear any solar coming from them.

Speaker 1 (22:44):
They want real power that's there all the time, sir.

Speaker 6 (22:48):
Yeah, that's the numb of the issue. AI.

Speaker 13 (22:51):
Just like some ND plants, deal plants, car plants, semiconductor plants,
and human beings need base load twenty four hour a
day electricity supply. Renewables don't provide that. Of course, the
AI mobiles and denizens come out with that right away.
They can't get by on part time energy. Oh, let's
let the people continue to try to get buy on
part time energy. Let the rate payers get buy on that,

(23:13):
but let's have baseload for us. What would make the
most sense is if they build their own instead of
plugging in and taking advantage of rate payers having to
build out two and a half billion, three billion dollar
gas plans to support them incrementally let them pay for that,
and then you've got public policy issues that need to
be addressed, such as in Pennsylvania, Google showing up buying

(23:34):
and existing six hundred and seventy megawatt dam from Brookstone
just for the purpose of Brookfield having to be able
to brag about baseload energy that they've purchased. They're robbing
that from the public system, from the pjam public system
that's already in shortage because of shutting down coal nuclear
plants attempting to replace them with expensive renewables. They're already

(23:59):
in massive short Hang.

Speaker 1 (24:03):
I want to go to another topic, and I'm ast.

Speaker 2 (24:05):
You probably stay through the break for companies the other side.
Here's another thing I don't get, because you've got these
boards where consumers supposed toever, you've got the two bedrocks
of the mega movement Florida and Texas. And in Florida
all they're doing is building solar all over the place,
and in Texas it's all wind. How did we have

(24:28):
two MAGA states with the reddest populations we got and
people on the tip of this How do we have
a situation where they're going down the path for the
average Schmendrick right that you're going to have solar and
expensive as hell?

Speaker 1 (24:41):
Are you going to have wind? How did that happen?

Speaker 13 (24:46):
It happened in this state. This is a regulated state,
unlike Rep. Parrison state is his state. By the way,
going forward AIRCOT plan in the next five years is
entirely solar and battery storage new capacity editions for air
god renew the next five years a compounded disaster. Florida
worse with regulated utilities who are heavily donated, heavy heavy

(25:07):
donators to packs wind up in full control of energy
policy for Florida through the state House, state Senate, and
the governor backing them because they're major donors, they're massive donors,
they get their way. They basically control the inputs provided
by the Public Service Commission, who was appointed by the
governor and approved by the state Senate, all heavily impacted

(25:28):
by the donor class of duke energy fpl and TICO
that go ahead and push forward these plans that are
massively beneficial to their bottom line because the cappex involved
with these plans is five times to six times more
than it would be if they were building basic combined
cycle gas power plants. So therefore they get a rate

(25:48):
benefit from that eleven and a half percent guaranteed return
on delta investment. Therefore, the utilities are all for the
continuance of solar power for the people. Now, when it
talks to AI, AI can't.

Speaker 14 (26:00):
Live with that.

Speaker 13 (26:00):
They need twenty four hour day really power like the
rest of us. They appeared to be getting lined up
in North Carolina, for example, this data house supported a
notionality that they get to take full advantage of just
plugging into the group.

Speaker 1 (26:16):
Think he froze again. We'll take it.

Speaker 6 (26:17):
Back to their share of the new capacity.

Speaker 1 (26:20):
And Dave, hang on one second and I'll hold you
through the break.

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Text network USA t N USA. Make sure, by the way,
I actually was right. You know, I saw yesterday where
Scott Best and the guys at Treasury had two hundred
billion dollar positive month in September.

Speaker 1 (26:35):
Tariffs allivan.

Speaker 2 (26:37):
That's how they came under the two treeon dollar deficit.
I'm not saying it was gun deck because it's best
in these guys.

Speaker 1 (26:42):
The money's coming into the air.

Speaker 2 (26:43):
It is a massive year positively, I mean the biggest
month I think in history, two hundred billion dollar positive.
But that's how we missed that two treeion dollars. So
if you took the under we now know how you
got it. Short break back in.

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Speaker 1 (28:18):
Texas is the.

Speaker 2 (28:19):
Energy capital of the world, and why do you have
all this funky you know, solar and batteries and wind.

Speaker 1 (28:28):
What's about you guys know energy better than anybody. Yeah,
why is Texas not powered by what we call American energy?

Speaker 6 (28:35):
We are blessed beyond measure.

Speaker 5 (28:37):
We should be dominating the energy market, not just in
the United States, but in the whole planet.

Speaker 6 (28:40):
But here's the problem.

Speaker 5 (28:41):
It's totally embarrassing that a red state like Texas, and
with as much energy reserves as we have under our soil,
every time it gets hot or every time it gets cold,
people in Texas don't know if we're going to have power.
We literally institute California style rolling blackouts every time it's
really hot or really cold to Why is this that.

Speaker 6 (28:57):
The free market didn't lead to?

Speaker 5 (28:58):
This is because those Republican leaders in the state of
Texas have been doubling and tripling down for decades on
the Green New Deal scam. And we've got these windmills
that are just destroying the beautiful landscape of our state
and taxpayers, rate payers, they're getting hosed on both ends
because of these solar farms. These wind farms would never
happen under free market forces. The taxpayers are having their
money stolen from them. Put in all the wind and solar,

(29:20):
and then guess what, whenever we need in the most,
it's not there for us. So taxpayers get to pay
double by price spikes and price gouging and massive you know,
surve charges every time it's really hot or really cold
in the state of tex.

Speaker 2 (29:35):
This or I'll get you got Florida and Texas have
driven the first term of Trump and driven the second
term of Trump.

Speaker 1 (29:45):
How do we have a situation where we still got the.

Speaker 2 (29:47):
Green New scam. Let's be blunt and it's got to
be some deal here with lobbyists. There's got to be
some deal with kickbacks of politicians. There's got to be
something going on, because it doesn't make any sense from
an economic point of view or an energy interview. And
like I said, the voters in these states are among
the most sophisticated and tip of the spear in the
MAGA movement.

Speaker 1 (30:07):
So how did this come about with our two best states?

Speaker 6 (30:10):
And I ask him a question on that.

Speaker 5 (30:11):
Ye, yeah, sure surely, as I was here, if you
can say it like this in Florida like it is
in Texas, one of the ways our government's doubling down
the Green New Deal scam.

Speaker 6 (30:18):
That's what it is is.

Speaker 5 (30:19):
For years, the state of Texas has been been giving
property tax abatements, effectively subsidizing these renewable companies to come
in Texas. Montpawshops are paying full freight on their property taxes.

Speaker 6 (30:31):
Texas are being taxed out of their homes.

Speaker 5 (30:33):
But these big you know, wind and solar companies come
in and the school districts, soh yeah, you don't have
to pay property taxes. Are y all doing similar things
like that down in Florida?

Speaker 13 (30:41):
Yes, Sir rap Harrison. In May of this year at
the State House in Florida passed the bill to allow
major users of AG property that are converting it to
solar mixed use. If you plant five Tomata plants on
a six hundred and eighty acre solar farm, guess what
in Florida you now as of May get the AG
property exemption four year solar farm.

Speaker 6 (31:01):
So Florida has just doubled down.

Speaker 13 (31:03):
In May of twenty twenty five, in the middle of
the Trump administration has doubled down on its own incentivization
of more and more utility scale solar farms to take
six hundred and eighty acres to generate about nineteen megawats
of power.

Speaker 6 (31:16):
Absolutely obscene use of land.

Speaker 13 (31:19):
But no, we're all over incentivizing this locally and supporting
it because the utilities in a regulated state here, which
you're not.

Speaker 6 (31:26):
We got we're following Texas lead on this as a
regulated state.

Speaker 13 (31:30):
Because those who are regulated are massive political donors. They
are essentially in effective control of these policies Duke Energy,
Tico and Florida Power and Light at the state House level,
the state Senate level, the Public Service Commission, who are
appointed by the governor and the governor. Because they're massive donors,
they get their way. So and this is good for

(31:51):
their P and L solar and wind solar. Here is
a massive uplift in capital spending, which has a guaranteed
eleven point six percent state regulated rate of return on
capital spending for energy devices by utilities. Therefore, they're in
love with this and they're going to settle with it.

Speaker 5 (32:09):
In Texas, we've got appointees of our Republican governor down
here that for years have been charged by the legislature
will come with some kind of firming standards, which is.

Speaker 6 (32:18):
If you're going to sell. I know we're not regulated
like you.

Speaker 5 (32:20):
Are, but if you're going to sell and provide energy
to our grid, you at least have to give us
some assurances that when we need the power, you're going
to be there. Nothing's been acting happening on that for
years down here in Texas. So very similar dynamic, and
it's a shame Red States the way.

Speaker 2 (32:35):
We're not just Red States, the two red estates wallsh
We got a bounce. I want everybody to go to
your Dave Walsh Energy to get all this because this
is I'm telling you in New Jersey, this could be
the difference.

Speaker 1 (32:46):
And hey, as sure.

Speaker 2 (32:47):
As Attorney of the Earth, Florida, Texas, Arizona. You watch
these things are going to be a grassroots revolt against
this crap. It's going to be highlighted by these data centers.
And the data center is not just going to take
massive amounts of energy, and some has got a fare.
What's going to come from the water situation in West
Texas and in Arizona are going to be a huge
issue about all of this. You've already started to see

(33:08):
a populist revolt against it. Wallsh where do people go?

Speaker 6 (33:11):
Ratt Parrison's exactly right.

Speaker 13 (33:13):
Texas has built only two base load power plants in
the last twelve years. They're called Colorado Bend and will
follow Floridas since twenty twenty one has built none, only solar.
So I'm reaching from Social adcts at Dave Walsh Energy.

Speaker 2 (33:28):
This is insane, Okay, Dave, thank you. If you've been
to tipp of the sphere here, folks, this is I
mean Florida, and they're the two foundational stanchions of the
MAGA movement, right, and it's obscene what's happening in two states.

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Oh, Lyndell TV is amazing. I want to ask a question.

Speaker 2 (36:13):
A judge found you guilt, and I don't know how
they do this before you go to trial. A judge
found you guilty of talking smart about smart Matic.

Speaker 1 (36:21):
Correct me if I'm wrong.

Speaker 2 (36:22):
Did smart Matic get indicted in the Philippines yesterday for
money laundrain, for bribing politicians?

Speaker 1 (36:29):
Is that? I just want to make sure, because hey, I'm.

Speaker 2 (36:32):
Not a machine guy smart Matic, But hold it, did
smart mad to get indicted in the Philippines for all
these horrible crimes?

Speaker 14 (36:39):
Yes, they did, Steven on my investigations all the way
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and I've tried to get it out to the public
in the world for four and a half years now.
They're smart mag They go all the way back with corruption.
But yes, they got indicted yesterday, and you would think
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(36:59):
the same thing you did when this judge ruled that
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Speaker 2 (37:10):
He count like this, How can you fame which looks
like a criminal operation? It looks like when you read
what they did in the Philippines as soon this is
going to happen in other countries, they look like a
criminal organization.

Speaker 1 (37:22):
How can you defame a criminal organization?

Speaker 14 (37:25):
Sir, Yeah, yeah, you can't. I mean it's not only that, Steve,
you're questioning. These machine companies are government private contractors. If
I can't use my free speech to question them and
say which our own government should be looking inside and
finding out the companies they're dealing with, that's another shameful
thing that's going on in our country.

Speaker 3 (37:46):
But you can't.

Speaker 14 (37:48):
So this judge that ruled in Minneapolis last week that
my pillow and Mike Lindell defamed this corrupt company, I'm
sorry you got to ask you, judge, where did you
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Speaker 3 (37:59):
Really?

Speaker 14 (37:59):
You come up with?

Speaker 2 (38:00):
Just get him a copy of the indictment and Philippines say.

Speaker 1 (38:03):
Bro this you I've ever said, right?

Speaker 14 (38:08):
Yeah, and Steve, Steve, it's very dangerous to everybody. If
I don't appeal this, no matter what smart Mannic's done
out there and what's in the news now, if I
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then none of us will ever be able to use
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they're going to always point back to this. So we

(38:30):
are going to appeal. And uh, and of course we're
going to win. I mean, this is goes to the
gate circuit, which overturned the other one. But but you see,
you can't make this stuff up.

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Speaker 1 (38:53):
Michael Lindell, God bless you see this, afternoon.

Speaker 3 (38:56):
Yeah, thank you.

Speaker 2 (38:57):
See, guys are indicted on all this money launder and
bribing politicians and stealing from the people the Philippines, and
yet and yet poor Mike Lindelle gets get the judgery
found guilty, no trial, the guilty of defamation.

Speaker 1 (39:11):
We're just here to see how much.

Speaker 2 (39:12):
I got a minute half you're gonna stick around to
the next block, harn' was gonna joins.

Speaker 1 (39:16):
I think I've come to revelation.

Speaker 2 (39:18):
Except for the life topic, which is great here in
Texas in a big fight. Yeah, the rest of the politicians,
the whole, the real deal. It's a purple state. I
might actually say a blue state.

Speaker 1 (39:28):
Right the way. It's the government, not the people. Not
the people.

Speaker 2 (39:31):
The people are the hardest core maga we got.

Speaker 1 (39:34):
This is what drives me crazy.

Speaker 2 (39:35):
You got what's going on in Florida and just AMers
is great on so many things, but there's something not
right with this. You know this this green new scam
with the president says it's over. And of course, by
the way, we're buying all the component parts for the
windmills and for the batteries from China.

Speaker 1 (39:50):
Right, might add to that.

Speaker 2 (39:52):
But besides life, which Texas great, on the rest of
the government's kind of a blue government is not.

Speaker 13 (39:57):
No.

Speaker 5 (39:57):
We have a lot of people, I said earlier, they
know they can't get elected as a Democrats, which is
what they actually got are, so they put the word
Republican by themselves and they vote for for life.

Speaker 6 (40:06):
And that's good.

Speaker 5 (40:06):
We need to be a pro life state, and we are,
but that doesn't mean you can go be a Marxist
leftist socialist democrat on every other issue and on this
water and the AI data center thing. And we've got
the state of Texas right now, it's a ballot proposition.
They're trying to take over the state government, trying to
take over the water supply. And why this state needs
to take this over. I was told we got to
get the water to these AI and tech data centers.

(40:29):
So the Texas taxpayers are going to be the ones
footing the bill.

Speaker 1 (40:32):
For this is just not the rivers, folks.

Speaker 2 (40:33):
These are aquifers and that's what keeps Texas and Arizona going.

Speaker 1 (40:37):
As these aquifers, you'd.

Speaker 2 (40:38):
Let those let those techola garks get their handle on that.
Forget it right, It's.

Speaker 6 (40:42):
Wanted to be one thing too.

Speaker 5 (40:43):
If they were paying for the Texas government's go, They're
going to make my constituents in thirty million Texans put
the bill.

Speaker 2 (40:48):
We're going to short commercial break back of the war
in a moment. Harrison is going to be here. We
got Ben Harnewell to talk about Zelenski's one o'clock meeting
with the president.

Speaker 14 (41:00):
Use your host, Stephen ka Ba.

Speaker 2 (41:05):
Okay, today at five, we're shifting out Harrison, right, and
we're going to have Wamsgan in and we got a
huge rally tomorrow. Correct, Yes, and both of you guys
will be back tomorrow morning. You're in Taking hour, You're
in Taken hour. We got this whole set. What can
we look for in the five o'clock hour, Well.

Speaker 15 (41:21):
It's going to be exciting. Let's talk about faith, family
and freedom. Let's talk about some Texas politics and speaking
truth to power.

Speaker 2 (41:28):
What we have to do is talk about how we
have the most religious, most faithful, hardest core in the
country that is supporting President Trump's president getting back in office.
Yet the government in Texas is a blue government.

Speaker 1 (41:40):
I don't understand.

Speaker 2 (41:41):
And they're coming after you specifically because they don't want to.
They made a mistake not getting Harrison, and they said, hey,
we can let her in here.

Speaker 6 (41:48):
Right. That means absolutely.

Speaker 15 (41:50):
In my thirty years of politics, I have never seen
a candidate with not over ninety three percent of their
contributions from special interests that are out of state.

Speaker 6 (41:58):
This is a first. This is well, thanks for me.

Speaker 2 (42:00):
They dropped it after two weeks after they saw that
you announce, all of a sudden they came up with this candidate. Right, Yes,
that was a totally random event. Now you've scared the
hell out of it's the Glenn's story of it all.
But you've scared the hell out of the establishment here already.

Speaker 15 (42:14):
Well, they know that I'm an independent thinker. They know
that I'm not a goal on to get along person,
and they don't want that in Austin, and we need
that in Austin.

Speaker 1 (42:25):
I got it badly that we're going today.

Speaker 2 (42:27):
Okay, We've got Zelenski's in the Oval Office with the
President one o'clock, our own Ben Harnwell live from Rome. Ben,
we're hearing from everybody if we agree to offensive weapons
that the Tomahawk missile. Putin said, Hey, I'm sending two
million new troops and we're going to get it on.
Although the President Iied States has said, I've got Marco
going to go negotiate with a team and I'm setting

(42:48):
up to go to Hungary with Victor orbon and meet
with a meet with President Putin to sort this thing out.

Speaker 1 (42:54):
What do you got for us? Morning?

Speaker 16 (42:56):
Next s Eve morning, blind morningly, Well, you know, we
thought we pretty much wrapped this up yesterday in twenty
four hours.

Speaker 6 (43:03):
How much has changed. The big new, Steve, is that.

Speaker 16 (43:06):
President Trump had and had a very short notice, two
hour phone call last night with President Putin at President
Putin's request, that I think is the back ground to
the to the Hungry meeting. Forecast hasn't been set yet,
the date it'll be about two weeks time next week,

(43:27):
as you, as you indicate, Marco Rubio is going to
sit down with Serge Love of the Russian Foreign Minists
to try and prepare the ground for that meeting of
the two heads of state. The timing is incredibly important here, Steve,
is obviously an attempt to take the wind somewhat out
of the sales of President Zelenski, who very shortly indeed

(43:51):
is going to be sitting down with President Trump at
the White House.

Speaker 6 (43:57):
On the on the Tomahawk's missiles.

Speaker 16 (44:00):
You know, and we said early on in the week
to start praying novenas ahead of that. President Trump said
after his phone call yesterday with Putin, astonishing, folks, this
is pure Maga, pure America. First, he said last night,
we can't talking about the US stockpiles. We can't deplete

(44:21):
our country that I think is going to be a
significant obstacle to President Zelenski's objective.

Speaker 6 (44:32):
He has one objective in.

Speaker 16 (44:33):
This meeting with President Trump today and is to get
his hands on these tomahawks. As we said yesterday on
the show, not so much because of the damage these
tohawks can do in Russia but provide, but to use
that as a pretext for the United States to be
dragged into this war, because that is Zelensky's only hope
now of winning this war of attrition, which he cannot

(44:56):
win in any other means.

Speaker 2 (45:00):
Ben, what's your social media great and now says you're
going to be back at six with the perspective of
all this.

Speaker 1 (45:05):
Where do people go in the interim?

Speaker 6 (45:07):
Thanks Steve.

Speaker 16 (45:08):
My social media platform of choice, geta Cindy Tupping, my
son name han Well and I said, updates of precisely
what we're talking about right now.

Speaker 1 (45:18):
Bad Eyed Cynic that you are. Whenever you go, We'll
see you. We'll see six o'clock at night. Thanks Ben,
Thanks Steve.

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Speaker 1 (45:45):
I just want to leave you guys at one thing.
There's not a better grass roots.

Speaker 2 (45:48):
Because we had this meeting here a couple of months
ago where we decided, you guys decided that, hey, we're
going to force the political establishment in Austin to deal
with this redistion issue. And you guys got five seats
in the grassroots and it was a herculean effort against
amazing opposition, so.

Speaker 6 (46:08):
Much that it was a huge part of No, No.

Speaker 1 (46:11):
And these guys love it.

Speaker 2 (46:12):
And by the way, inspired de Gross, those guys up
on Capitol Hills said Hey, if we do Texas, Gross
has got a gross amount of twenty one that could go,
not even counting what happened in Louisiana the other day.

Speaker 1 (46:24):
This is how important the redistion is.

Speaker 2 (46:26):
But the key is that you guys took it on
when it was absolutely dead and not going to happen
in a special session and moved heaven and earth.

Speaker 1 (46:34):
That's the power of the grassroots here.

Speaker 2 (46:35):
And it's unacceptable that you've got the foundational element base
of the mega movement that has brought President Trump on
their shoulders back to an amazing second term. They's done
more than any president history in the first two hundred
and fifty days. And this state is out of control
because of the political class of established by Republicans and
democratical Democrats have turned this in politically into a blue state.

Speaker 1 (46:59):
And I think that's one of the things we're down
here for. This can't happen. Well, first of all, we're
not going to have a country.

Speaker 2 (47:03):
As Texas goes, so goes the nation, and as the
nation goes, so goes the world. So so I'm so
proud to be down here and kind of is really
the memory and what Charlie Kirk tried to accomplish.

Speaker 1 (47:14):
And you're seeing the grassroots people down here.

Speaker 2 (47:16):
But we got to have a fight, and I think
it's epitomized by you as soon as Lee announced them.
For years, I've been saying to Grelenn everything, she's so
spectacular and so self effacing, humble, we got to get
her into elective office because she could be a game
changer like Harrison.

Speaker 6 (47:30):
As soon as she.

Speaker 2 (47:30):
Announced two weeks later, They've got an establishing guy with
all the lobbyist money because they understand your threat to
the system.

Speaker 6 (47:39):
That's right, and you know, I've been speaking truth.

Speaker 15 (47:41):
To power for decades and it's really not that hard.

Speaker 6 (47:46):
It's just do the right thing. The government seems to
have a problem with him.

Speaker 8 (47:49):
No.

Speaker 5 (47:49):
I love making and we're in a battle for the
future of Western civilization. But the Texas government is forcing
taxpayers to find everything.

Speaker 6 (47:55):
Charlie Kirk opposed.

Speaker 2 (47:56):
Lee, will be back here at five of my co
hosts Lie and Bryan tomorrow morning, and then we're gonna
have a huge rally for Lee late in the afternoon.

Speaker 1 (48:04):
Just go to worm dot org. Grayson mo are gonna
push it out hard. We're going to leave you with
the right stuff. And you know why, if any state
in this union's.

Speaker 2 (48:13):
Got the right stuff, it's the great state of Texas.
And now we've got to take the grassroots and the
MAGA movement and convert it into a political class here
that runs the state for the people, not for themselves
and the vested special interests.

Speaker 1 (48:27):
We'll see you back at Charlie Kirkshow is next. We're
back here at five o'clock eastern daylight time. We'll see
you back here in the War room.