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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Bolden faces eighteen counts related to the retention and transmission
of national defense information. In short, this is a classified
documents case. Back in August, the FBI searched Bolton's home
and office. At the time, Trump made it all about him, saying, quote,
my house was also rated. Trump is still fuming about
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the criminal investigation into the classified information.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
He stored at mar Lago.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
So when he calls Bolton a quote bad person, we
should note the hypocrisy. Trump was charged with very similar crimes.
Of course, Trump never had to face those charges in court.
Judge Aileen Cannon, who Trump appointed to the Federal brench
threw them out. As for Bolton, he warned about this
moment last year during the presidential campaign, writing in his book,
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quote Trump really cares only about retribution for himself, and
it will consume much of a second term.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
Was just indicted.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
Branduri Maryland, you have a reaction to that.
Speaker 5 (01:01):
I didn't know that you tell me for the first time.
But I think he's, you know, a bad person.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
I think he's.
Speaker 6 (01:07):
A bad guy.
Speaker 5 (01:10):
Yeah, he's a big guy, too bad.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
But that's the way it goes.
Speaker 5 (01:14):
That's the way it goes, right, That's the way it goes.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
I have you reviewed the case against him?
Speaker 6 (01:18):
No, I haven't.
Speaker 5 (01:19):
I have it, but I just think he's a bad person.
Speaker 7 (01:21):
We know, how from what we've seen in the past
couple of weeks, that when Donald Trump makes these demands
of charges against his perceived enemies, sometimes those charges follow.
What is not clear at all, however, is what crimes
these people may have committed. It seems that Donald Trump
is interested solely in payback because these are people who
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presided over charges against him. So you know, Jack Smith
was the special counsel, and Lisa Monico was the Deputy
Attorney General at the time. Andrew Wiseman was just somebody
who worked on Robert Muller's team. And so there's no
suggestion of any criminal conduct by any of these people.
And so targeting individuals because they're bad people or because
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you want to seek payback is a really inappropriate use
of the Justice Department. So I don't know that prosecutors
are going to find any crimes that they can charge
these people with, but if they do, I think they
will be highly suspect. Along the lines of the Jim
call Me and l Titia James indictments, This.
Speaker 4 (02:18):
Is a very serious and detailed indictment. It says that
John Bolton derived secrets from his time as National Security Advisor,
assembled them because he was writing a book, sent them
over unclassified email and messaging apps to his wife and daughter.
We've identified the two people as his wife and daughter,
and then that information was hacked by the government of Iran.
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At least one of those email accounts was hacked, and
so the government of Iran obtained some of these state secrets,
according to this indictment. And the indictment says that Bolton
used language that made clear he knew he was talking
about sensitive information, things like the intel briefer said, or
when in the situation room I learned, so this is
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this and these charges, as you said, Carrie, ten years each.
So he could spend the rest of his life in
prison in theory if convicted on these charges. But let
me tell you what the defense could be here. I
should add that and this case has been this case
is being prosecuted by career prosecutors, respected people, unlike the
Cony and the James case, which was avoided by every
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career prosecutor in the department and pursued only by Donald
Trump's political appointee. This one has gone through normal channels
as we understand it. But let me explain some potential
mitigating circumstances here. Lots of people who have jobs where
they see classified information, write books and they send that
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the manuscript through a publication review, for example, if you're
a CIA officer, and oftentimes those reviewers will say, sorry,
you can't say that it was classified, we're keeping that
out of the book. Well, that information was classified, it
went over an unclassified email system. Those people don't get
prosecuted for doing that. So what's at issue here? Are
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not documents marked classified, which was the case in the
Donald Trump indictment. These were This was information that John
Bolton gathered and wrote down in diaries and sent that
the FBI and the CIA and other people have determined
contained national defense information. And when you look at the
descriptions and the indictment, it's pretty clear that some of
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it probably did. But the question here is where is
the line for people who are writing books. John Bolton
did go through the publication review process here. Now, now
there's allegations that he ignored some of the suggestions from
people about what to leave out of the book, But
there's a lawyer named Mark Zaid who represents a lot
of people who write books, and what he was saying
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last night is that if you're going to prosecute John Bolton,
you got to prosecute a lot of other.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
People who wrote books.
Speaker 4 (04:49):
And had potentially classified information on their email systems which
was then left out of the books, but which was
actually sensitive. And the other thing is Abbie Lowell, John
Bolten's lawyer is saying here that this was not classified.
These were this was information that he kept for diaries.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
And he said that the.
Speaker 4 (05:09):
FBI has known about this for a long time, and
that's true. This arose in the Biden administration, and what
seems to be the case is that they did not
know the extent of what was in at least one
of his email accounts until they discovered that Iran. They
discovered the material that Iran had hacked through a US
intelligence penetration of Iran. That's according to my reporting. And
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that's one of the reasons this case didn't go forward
in the Biden administration is because officials were concerned about
revealing that penetration. The Trump administration has made a different calculation.
They're okay with revealing it. They've revealed it now to
the Iranians, so whatever penetration they had is now shut down.
That's how badly they wanted to prosecute John Bolten, And
that's where you can ask questions about whether this case
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should have gone forward.
Speaker 8 (05:54):
Guys Vote, who was a key architect of Project twenty
twenty five and also served as and B director during
President Trump's first term. He has been a catalyst behind
the administration's efforts to fire federal workers, gut key agencies,
and slash foreign aid. Now, a piece published jointly by
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Pro Publica and The New Yorker is taking a deeper
dive into votes dismantling of the federal government, chronicling his
rise from the mail room of the US Senate to
what some call the shadow President. Vote's vision for the
US government. An all powerful executive branch would be able
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to fire workers, cancel programs, shutter agencies, and undue regulations
that govern air and water quality, financial markets, workplace protections,
and civil rights. The Department of Justice, meanwhile, would shed
its historical independence and operate at the direction of the
White House. All of this puts Vote at the center
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of what Steve Vladeck, a law professor at Georgetown, described
to me as the Trump administration's complete disregards for the law.
And if you look at historical parallels and you read
books like the one written by former Secretary of State
Madeline Albright or An applebaumund the groundwork being laid here
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for destroying democracy.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
But John Bolton did come back with a statement on this,
and he's you know, he's not going down, as just
James noted as well without fighting.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
He said, quote.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
These charges are not just about Trump's focus on me
or my diaries, but his intensive effort to intimidate his
opponents to ensure that he alone determines what is said
about his conduct. Dissent and disagreement are foundational to America's
constitutional system and vitally important to our freedom. I look
forward to the fight to defend my lawful conduct and
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to expose his abuse of power.
Speaker 9 (08:01):
Question is which guardrails are left given what the Supreme
Court has done.
Speaker 10 (08:06):
Right, That's exactly right.
Speaker 6 (08:07):
There aren't many guardrails left.
Speaker 11 (08:09):
And that's the reason why I feel the need to
come on tonight and really just speak in very clear terms,
because the only guardrails is the American public and our skepticism,
and that we don't start with the presumption that an
indictment returned against Donald Trump's.
Speaker 5 (08:24):
Political enemies is on the up and up.
Speaker 10 (08:26):
We start with the presumption, the strong presumption that when
Donald Trump's political enemies all of a sudden find themselves
magically under indictment, that it's probably not on the up
and up, that it probably is because something untoward happened.
And so that's all I'm asking everyone to do right now.
Speaker 5 (08:45):
This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
Speaker 12 (08:50):
Pray for our enemies, because we're going to medieval in
these people.
Speaker 5 (08:55):
There's not going to free shot.
Speaker 12 (08:56):
All these networks lying about the people called pattib belly
full of it.
Speaker 5 (09:01):
I know you don't like hearing that. I know you're
trying to do everything in the world to stop there,
but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen.
Speaker 4 (09:07):
And where do people like that go to share the
big line? Mega media? I wish in my soul, I
wish that any of these people had a conscience.
Speaker 11 (09:17):
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose.
Speaker 12 (09:21):
If that answer is to save my country, this country
will be saved.
Speaker 5 (09:27):
War Room.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
Here's your host, Stephen k ma.
Speaker 12 (09:35):
It's Friday, seventeen October, in the Year for Our Lord
twenty twenty five. I'm here in the Lone Star State
with Brian Harrison. Brian, thank you for joining us today
for the broadcast. Thanks this afternoon and tomorrow. So we're
gonna be juggling a lot here at War Room and
Real America's Voice. We have the Moms for Liberty, a
huge conference in Florida which a lot of the RIV
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personnels are speaking at. John Solomon and the team. We've
also got Marine Corps two fifty out of Camp Penland,
Amanda Head and the team out there. And of course
I'm here for the next couple of days to talk
to the conservatives in the grassroots conservatives in the Lone
Star State to figure out the Lone Star State is.
Speaker 5 (10:15):
Supposed to be the railhead of MAGA.
Speaker 12 (10:17):
But the folks here don't have time to even much
help us on the national level because you're trying to
turn around Texas.
Speaker 4 (10:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 13 (10:23):
I know, the people of the state of Texas love
President Trump. They vote for bold Republican leadership, they deserve
bold Republican leadership.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
But instead of Texas.
Speaker 13 (10:32):
Leading the fight to lock arms with President Trump and
make sure his agenda is not just passed, but passed
with as big and a maximum of an impact as possible.
The failed liberal establishment in the Texas government is forcing
Texas taxpayers to basically fund the Joe Biden Kamala Harris
agenda even though they've been absolutely routed at the ballot box.
Speaker 12 (10:51):
Outrageous, okay, big geopolitical news. Today, Zelenski's at the White
House at one o'clock for this massive discussion about providing
Omahawk missiles and other offensive capabilities to the Ukrainians in
the Ukraine War against the Russians. President Trump's talked to putin,
We're going to get in all that.
Speaker 5 (11:08):
We want to go now. I think we've got it.
Speaker 12 (11:10):
The Council on Foreign Relations, our own doctor Peter Navarro
is giving an address about the trade policy, and I
think particularly going to delve in to this economic war
against China.
Speaker 5 (11:20):
Let's go to the Council on Foreign Relations, Peter.
Speaker 14 (11:22):
Navara invitation after all this, and not every day I
get to speak for an audience that has opposed nearly
every policy I've ever helped advance in the White House.
Speaker 6 (11:33):
But let's be honest with each other.
Speaker 14 (11:36):
CFR has been uniformly anti tariff and anti Trump and
the highly skeptical of in America first foreign policy that
in truth is restoring our trade balance, rebuilding our industrial base,
strengthening alliances like NATO keeping and as we just saw
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in the Middle East, negotiating the broader peace, and reasserting
American sovereignty on the world stage. So let's ask ourselves
the obvious question, how did the gulf between the Council
on Foreign Relations and Trump World grow so wide? If
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you ask an AI search engine try this I did,
it will tell you that the Council on Foreign Relations
embodies and establishment technocratic and globalist ideology, one comfortably wetted
with Wall Street and the multinational corporations that love open borders,
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cheap offshore labor, and an endless stream of subsidized imported goods.
Speaker 6 (12:47):
By contrast, the.
Speaker 14 (12:48):
Trump administration since twenty seventeen has stood squarely with the
people who make and grow things in this country. Are
farmers and ranchers, are manufacturers and workers. Would many in
this audience dismiss as populism or nationalism simply means doing
what's best for Americans. First, protecting our jobs, communities, and
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the industrial base that anchors our national strength.
Speaker 6 (13:18):
History is indeed a harsh mistress. Here exhibit A.
Speaker 14 (13:24):
Council on Foreign Relations members helped negotiate NAFTA, which hallowed
out the US manufacturing base and triggered one of the
largest illegal.
Speaker 6 (13:34):
Mass migrations in modern history.
Speaker 14 (13:38):
CFR analysts championed China's two thousand and one entry into
the World Trade Organization, the single worst trade deal, the
single worst trade deal American history. Then came the Transpacific Partnership.
Speaker 6 (13:54):
Forgive me here, Mike.
Speaker 14 (13:56):
CFR sold it as a geopolitical ram part against a
rise in China. Yet the TPP would have surrendered much
of America's manufacturing base, including our crucial auto and auto
parts sectors, to Japan, Vietnam, and ironically, ultimately China itself.
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President Trump saw this very clearly and tore up the
TPP on day one.
Speaker 6 (14:26):
I was standing right behind him on that beautiful day.
Speaker 14 (14:32):
This is what the Council on Foreign Relations has never understood.
Weakening our industrial base has never strengthened our strategic position.
Speaker 6 (14:42):
It has only invited aggression.
Speaker 14 (14:44):
That's why in Trump World, we do not trade off
economic security for national security. We believe economic security is
national security.
Speaker 6 (14:57):
Memo to CFR.
Speaker 14 (14:59):
You cannot project power if you surrendered production. You cannot
deter aggression when your supply chains run through your opponent's ports.
You can't lead the free world if you can't make
what the free world needs. Here's the second big problem
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with the Council's free trade dogma, the belief that the
World Trade Organization somehow delivers fair trade as well.
Speaker 6 (15:30):
By its own rules. It does not.
Speaker 14 (15:34):
The WTO's Most Favored Nation MFN rule says you must
treat all partners the same, But what it doesn't say
is that everyone must charge the same tariff. So what
happens Virtually every country in the world charges America far
higher tariffs than we charge them. Germany, for example, charges
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US ten percent on auto, We charge them two and
a half. The result, Bavaria sells US seven cars for
everyone Detroit sends to Germany. That's the tilted playing field
that the Council on Foreign Relations has defended, and the
one President Trump has begun to level with his policy
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of reciprocal tariffs.
Speaker 6 (16:23):
Of course, the moment President.
Speaker 14 (16:25):
Trump uses the T word, CFR waves the bloody shirt
of what you know what I'm about to say, inflation
and recession. But the record, the record tells a very
different story. Under President Trump's first term, inflation stayed low,
growth was strong, and the American manufacturing base saw its
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first real revival in decades.
Speaker 6 (16:51):
Far from tariff.
Speaker 14 (16:53):
Chaos, Trump World had price stability and.
Speaker 6 (16:57):
The strongest job market in modern history.
Speaker 14 (17:03):
Let's be clear, the inflation we're living with today did
not come from tariffs.
Speaker 6 (17:08):
It came from Joe Biden's reckless fiscal.
Speaker 14 (17:11):
Expansion, his neglect of our supply chains, and a hopelessly
politicized federal reserve that accommodated the Biden bonfire. That's why
we and Trump will now hold the credibility high ground
on tariffs Exhibit B. During the Trump first term, and
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you all remember this, CFR's predictions of economic calamity widely
missed the mark. The inflation and recession that you all
forecast never came. The alliances you said would disintegrate have endured.
Those wars you predicted for four peaceful years during the
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Trump first term, China, Iran, North Korea.
Speaker 6 (17:59):
And Russia kept their powder dry.
Speaker 14 (18:03):
Now, in his second term, President Donald John Trump is once.
Speaker 6 (18:06):
Again performing beautifully.
Speaker 14 (18:09):
And it's long past time for the Council on Foreign
Relations to catch up with the world it refuses to understand.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
In closing.
Speaker 14 (18:23):
In closing, I come to you today not to quarrel,
just to simply challenge respectfully, the assumptions that still dominate
this room. The world has changed, the American people had changed.
The age of blind globalization is over. If the Council
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on Foreign Relations wants to be relevant, it must stop
mistaking nationalism for isolationism, sovereignty for retreat, and strength for aggression.
For ultimately, MAGA and the America First Movement isn't about
pulling back.
Speaker 6 (19:02):
It's about standing tall.
Speaker 14 (19:03):
It's about defending what we make who we are in
the nation we love.
Speaker 6 (19:11):
Thank you for your time. I look forward to your questions.
Speaker 14 (19:15):
And Anna's Swanson of the Conservative New York Times is
going to grill me here.
Speaker 5 (19:23):
Wow, just perfect. Okay.
Speaker 12 (19:25):
So the reason we wanted to start with that the
great Peter Navarro, is that Texas is kind of the
railhead for the populace economic nationalists and the folks down here,
the ranchers, the farmers, the manufacturers, the entrepreneurs that Peter
Navarro folks. He just went into the lions den. The
Council of Foreign Relations is like the Evatican of globalism. Okay,
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he went in there and threw down what people don't know.
And the reason I want to Harrison the right shotgun
with me this morning as we start to get in tomorrow,
tonight and tomorrow more of the grassroots folks here is
that you were in the first Trump term and you
were one of the wingmen Ford Navarro and working you
were at AHHS on the supply change.
Speaker 5 (20:07):
You know exactly what he's talking about in the fight.
Speaker 12 (20:10):
The biggest fight we had was really against kind of
republican establishment who was absolutely appalled that of populism and nationalism,
the thing that the grassroots love in Texas.
Speaker 5 (20:21):
They were appalled at and fought us every day.
Speaker 13 (20:23):
And what's so great about seeing my former colleague Peter.
They are going into the room full of You cannot
imagine a room full of more of like the the
word elite, okay, the elitist, it doesn't even quite capture.
But what's great about watching Peter, who, yes, I did
get to work with it. Spent a lot of time
with uh in the West wing during during the President
Trump's first term is that that speech, even though he's
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delivering it to the globalist, to the elites in our
nation's capital, right, that.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
Speech was basically a speech.
Speaker 13 (20:51):
Meant for the hard working men and women of the
people in Texas. The people that that group riots is
fly over country. You know, the others, right, gotten men
and women of the United States. I'm here to tell
you of somebody who had the honor of working for
President Trump, you know, alongside Peter and others.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
Donald J.
Speaker 13 (21:07):
Trump is the people's president. And from the time he
got in office up until now, I watched him systematically
take positions that not just work within like Republican establishment orthodoxy,
but when right at it. I mean Peter just mentioned
most favored nations. I mean I was in the room
with the President. He's sick and tired of not farmers
and ranchers paying too much for everything, but American patients.
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He's sick and tired of these drugs that caused pennies
to make being sold for pennies in all these socialist
European countries, but American pap.
Speaker 5 (21:37):
Let's talk about that.
Speaker 12 (21:38):
Number One is that the Chinese controlled all active pharmaceutical
ingredients and dominate the generic mark, but then you talk
about the non generic So the Americans are getting ripped
off there. But even worse is that workingmen and women
in this country are underwriting, basically the profit stream for
the big farm from international companies.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
It is an international country.
Speaker 13 (21:58):
It is an absolute fact that American patients are overpaying
for their prescription drug drugs. And that's bad enough, but
we're doing it so that we can subsidize these socialist
governments all across the world. And I was super proud
to get to help President Trump announce multiple pathways for
drug importation, which is something as a Republican you weren't.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
Supposed to do back four years ago when he announced this.
Speaker 13 (22:21):
And it was actually the Democrats that under Joe Biden
that pushed this anti patient policy and peeled that stuff back.
But no, President Trump is putting the American workers first.
He's putting American patients first. He's putting hard working Texans first.
And I tell you here, Steve, somebody who represents one
hundreds of thousands of Texans and gets to serve thirty
million Texans. Texans appreciate what President Trump is doing. They
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know he's got their back against the bigs, against the elites,
against the powerful, and he's the president for the forgotten minute.
Speaker 12 (22:49):
And the international these international institutions and organizations, whether it's
you in and Geneva, the World Bank, the World Health Organization.
I want to mention just give folks look the Council
on Foreign Relations. You have globalist elites, and then you
have actually the elite of the elite, almost like a
public skull and bones, the Council on Fim Relations.
Speaker 5 (23:12):
You have to be invited into.
Speaker 12 (23:13):
It's like the inner sanctum of the foreign policy establishment.
All the bankers, the corporatists, the biggest pundits and writers
and foreign affairs and foreign policy.
Speaker 5 (23:24):
That is the Council on Foreign Relations. And here's what
they've done.
Speaker 12 (23:27):
They're really centered in New York City, this kind of
center of globalism. But they now have Peter speaking actually
at their DC branch, which is right down from the
White House, because they know they got to keep an
eye on President Trump. President Trump is a populist and
a nationalist. And this is what broke the mold and
really stood up to defend our country. And this is
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the thing coming down to Texas. That speech right there
is aimed to tell the Texans, Hey, we understand what
the problem is. We understand these globals what they've been
trying to do to you. We understand how the leads
in this country sold you out, including the Room of
the People. And by the way, he's about to be
interviewed by Anna Swanson over the New York Times. And
she's actually pretty, she's actually pretty, she's actually pretty good.
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But you know, the New York Times is the paper
of that in the journal of the paper of globalism.
Why can't we translate Trump's victory and particularly Trump's principles
has laid out at least on the geostrategic side and
the economic side. Why are we having such a hard
time here in Texas? Because I think we've come to
the I've come to the inclusion is Texas is actually
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the railhead of Maga.
Speaker 5 (24:31):
But it's a purple state. By the way that the
elected officials running Yeah, no, I.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
Say this all the time.
Speaker 13 (24:36):
The Texas voters, the men and women who love this state,
the thirty million people who call Texas home.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
They are red. But the reality is.
Speaker 13 (24:43):
And people don't know this because all they watch is
maybe a few seconds of our governor or lieutenant governor
on Fox News every once in a while they think
our government matches that and that we're read. The reality
is that Texas people are red. The Texas government is
blue and has been for a long time. And that's
why you see people like you know, Peter Navarro representing
the President of the States walking into a room full
of people who for generation basically have been able to
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control the regulatory, capture and other things the government. So
it's not really been the elected officials ConTroll of the government.
It's been the entrenched rich elite special interest while and
President Trump is an existential threat to that, and the
state of Texas should be a multiplying force, an amplifier
for what President Trump is just doing, break them, the
liberal the people, a force multiplier.
Speaker 12 (25:25):
Using the example what Texas elites are in the governing
philosophy down here, because they say they're Republicans, but they're
really they're anti populist, anti Trump, globalist. I mean, that's
what it is, and that's why you had these policies,
whether it's transgender ideology. I mean, you've got one of
the great universities that I told you the men and
women I know that are aggies is the most conservative,
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hard bitten crew. And I see what's happening in Texas
A and M, and I go, how can that possibly
happen at Texas A and M.
Speaker 13 (25:54):
When I say, as a proud member of the Fight
in Texas Aggy class of two thousand and four, it's
one of the reasons that people why taken on AM
so much.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
Well, I love A and M.
Speaker 13 (26:01):
They educated me one of the best public universities in
the country that they tell us concervative. But now they've
been taken over by leftists because our governor has appointed
a bunch of woke progressive leftists that have allowed this
leftist Marxist socialist ideology to proliferate unchecked. And now the
hard working men and women of the state of Texas,
they're being taxed out of their homes, the highest property
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taxes in the country, by the way, to fund the
leftist ideology, which leads us to the transgender movements, transgender violence.
Speaker 12 (26:31):
People think of Texas, they think of the Frontier, they
think of the Texas Ethos, the Alamo, and you sent
to all the great things that Texas represented in development
of the country and freedom, and you're telling me, I
think in people are look at property Texas and one
of the things people are prepared you got to support
a local government to local schools. But you're telling me
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you have among the highest property taxes in the country.
There was one and out that You've got Massachusetts, New
York State, you got California.
Speaker 13 (27:01):
Here's what I'll tell you, and it's it's heartbreaking and
it's infuriating. Texas has a reputation steeve for leading and
conservative values individual liberty and freedom. Right here's the reality.
We've just been coasting on that reputation for a generation.
And yeah, one analysis, people think we're a low tax,
low regulation state. Total myth one analysis. Last year, Texas
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has the highest property tax rate in the country effective
property tax rate. And what are they doing with all
this money? Well, we're funding the exact opposite of everything
President Trump is fighting for in Washington. We're probably the
biggest funder DEI and transgender and doctrination in the whole country.
Speaker 12 (27:38):
And this is why you've got I think some of
the best, if not the best grassroots of fighters in
the nation right here in Texas.
Speaker 5 (27:45):
I just want to say, we're gonna go break here
in a second.
Speaker 12 (27:48):
The other day on the on Tel Aviv Levn, on
Mark Levin's show, they had the radio show, they had
the Abbot and he's praise an abbot for abbot was
taking credit for the five seats, the redistricting.
Speaker 5 (27:59):
He actually, we had the hut spot to try to
dampsend there going what hang on?
Speaker 12 (28:04):
This is all these grassroots organizations, Brian Harrison, war Wire,
Repounded every day, abbots fight us behind the scenes everything,
and he's taking credit. Now four is taking credit for
the reditioning your thoughts, Well.
Speaker 13 (28:16):
Well, yeah, he has a habit of doing this. You know,
I forced a big jock, force a professor to be fired,
A and M. And then like clockwork, there's a tweet
from the government this professor must go.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
And I'm well, okay, well where were you?
Speaker 13 (28:27):
You know when your reasons we're hiring all these lefts
And here's the thing too, on the five seats. Yeah,
we got it done, and thank god we did, but
quite frankly, without the grassroots precement and the president having
to tell hey, Republican elected officials, get off your duff
and do something. And by the way, Steve, you were
right on this. The posse it should have been more
than five season. If leading the author of the bill
has admitted we could have had more than final seats,
we should have had more than five unbelievable.
Speaker 5 (28:47):
Okay, today we're going to juggle a lot.
Speaker 12 (28:50):
We've got news back in DC of taking down the
administrative state. John Bolton is about to be the indictments
about to be. He's about to go to court today
to be arraigned. We've got We're going to Lando to
Mom's for Liberty. Who did a preview of Marine Corps
two fifty tomorrow from Camp Pendleton. I think Amanda Head
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Why is that? I don't know.
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Jamison Greer, the Ambassador for Trade, the trade negotiators saying, Hey,
the Chinese commiss Party trying to put the death now
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Speaker 12 (30:31):
When we get Matt Plumbo up in a second, Mika.
They're doing a huge profile of Russ I think The
New Yorker and Our vany Fair, one of these papers
and one of these magazines, and they're completely going after
Russ vote because he's a Christian nationalist.
Speaker 5 (30:45):
They're absolutely hating.
Speaker 12 (30:47):
They think he's the you know, he's the architect of
so much of this, he and Steven Miller, but they're
going absolutely crazy. Talk to me and we we really
would like Russ taking off the chain in this because
we think we're winning. We know we're winning the Schumer shutdown.
Now it's time to drop the hammer and Russ's I
think laid off five thousand, started five thousand, but that's
of two and a half million. I think we still
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have two point three million civilian workers in the government.
I know Russ has a plan to go all the
five hundred thousand above which and President jumps under tremendous
pressure by Wall Street, by the rhinos in the Senate,
which is virtually all of them.
Speaker 5 (31:23):
Oh, calm this down, tone it down. We don't really
make big changes.
Speaker 13 (31:27):
No, the American people don't want to calm down. The
American people want big changes. That's what they've voted for
last November. And I'm really thrilled that. You know, one
of the silver linings of the Democrats total I would
say it's incompetence, but it's like willful malice. So what
they're doing with this Democrat led Schumer shutdown, I think
one of the silver linings is my friend and former
colleague and yours, Russ vote getting to finally do some
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of the things that I think, quite frankly, Russ has been.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
Preparing for many, many years to get to do.
Speaker 13 (31:53):
Because one of the things I think the American people
now understand is that the president is supposed to be
the head of the executive branch. Yes, he is constantly
undermined by the hundreds of thousands of woke leftist Marx's
progressives that in theory works for the president, but are
in fact actually undermining everything President Trump is in.
Speaker 12 (32:10):
This is what in the years in the wilderness right
the Project twenty twenty five team, but it really was
cr at Rust folks, cr Heritage, Stephen Miller's America First
Legal so much Brooks Rollins, the America First Policy Institute,
you know CPI, with Senator Dement and Mark Meadows, all
these groups working together with really Miller and Russ and
(32:32):
the Viceroy Mike Davis saying hey, we want to get
down to a real driving We're going to drive the
narrative here on the Article two Powers of the President.
I states he's chief executive officer of the country.
Speaker 5 (32:44):
That means he can.
Speaker 12 (32:45):
Fire who he wants, and the appropriations Bill is a ceiling,
not a floor.
Speaker 5 (32:49):
He can hold money back and impall money.
Speaker 12 (32:51):
As commander in chief, hey, he can repel invasions, he
can go after our enemies. And most importantly, I think
has been so different. He is the chief magistrate and
chief law enforcement officer of the United States government. So
the Justice Department the FBI are not hermetically sealed away
from the executive branch. Brian, I think that's the big
challenge we've had now on everything we're doing, and it's
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not going to stop.
Speaker 16 (33:14):
No.
Speaker 13 (33:14):
Well, and I was in those fights with President Trump
in the first term. It's not just the career bureaucrats
that make up the vast majority of the massive federal workforce,
but the president gets to politically appoint you know, a
thousand plus, you know people to come in and serve
with him and make sure as agena is carried out
at all the different agencies. But even keeping the people
that are appointed by the president, they're explicitly at the
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appointment of the White House. During the first term, I
can tell you that there were a lot of DC
swamp creatures that made their way into president first administration.
And it was even the political appointees that were undermining him.
But to your bigger point, Steve, if you work in
the executive branch, if you're a bureaucrat somewhere, your ultimate boss,
if you care about that pesky little thing called the Constitution,
is the President of the United States, and the president
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is Donald J.
Speaker 5 (33:55):
Trump.
Speaker 13 (33:56):
And if you're a bureaucrat in the executive branch, you're
there to carry out his agen One of.
Speaker 12 (33:59):
The most straight difference between the first term and the
second is that those years in the wilderness people were
at work, not just in the policies but also the people.
You get three thousand people you can get on board
as soon as you get a security clearance day one.
A thousand basically have to be you know, get confirmed
by the Senate. And this confirmation by the Senate right now.
President Trump put out a true social last night about
(34:21):
eight US attorneys that he can't get in in blue
states because of this concept of the blue slip. I
don't think President Trump's calling for that to go away.
I don't think it's going to go away, mister President.
It's a customer tradition to stick with. But John Dune
ought to call a real recess which they've never had
for one day of President Trump's first term or second term.
The reason is Mitch McConnell and the writers in the
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Senate don't trust President Trump on a recess.
Speaker 5 (34:44):
Appointment right now.
Speaker 12 (34:46):
Thune needs to in the you know, next week to
get Johnson since the House is out and Johnson said
he support this, to actually call it a formal recess,
and let's get these recess appointments, particularly these US attorneys.
Speaker 5 (34:57):
And I'm going to show you why.
Speaker 12 (34:58):
We've got Matt plumba we've got a cold over from
the one aspect I can tell you they're driving, driving, driving.
Is this investigation of the deep state, the investigation of
what happened to conspiracy in the first term, and particularly
now Antifa and everything associated with Antifa.
Speaker 5 (35:14):
You got the.
Speaker 12 (35:14):
Treasury Department on this, you got the IRS on this.
We got Matt Palumbo, who's the specialists in sores and
the devil spawned the Sun. Let's go and play the
clip and bring me Plumbo on the Wall Street Journal.
Speaker 17 (35:27):
Is reporting that the White House is planning to install
true Trump loyalists in the IRS Criminal Unit for the
not sole purpose, but one of the reasons is to
target left leaning groups.
Speaker 2 (35:41):
What do you make of this?
Speaker 18 (35:43):
It sounds very familiar, and you know, we've been hearing
rumors about this and reports. I think Jeff and his
team at Reuters did a story a week ago about
targeting these left wing groups. And when I hear this
on my mind immediately went back to Watergate. Actually, you know,
everybody remembers that there was bugging. You know, that was
you know, they were bugging the Democratic headquarters back then.
But you know, there are many other crimes involved in
(36:05):
water and one of the big ones was Nixon and
his henchmen sending a list of enemies over to the
IRS and asking them to go Investigatan. That was a
big That was one of the articles that was part
of the articles of impeachment, one.
Speaker 2 (36:16):
Of the things that led to his resignation.
Speaker 18 (36:18):
Now, of course, that was a very different time because
at that time, when that list came over the IRS,
the people that they didn't act on it, and in
fact that eventually, you know, Republican members of Congress stood
up and said, this is one of the reasons, mister President,
you're going to lose an impeachment vote.
Speaker 2 (36:34):
You need to resign.
Speaker 18 (36:35):
Now we're talking about him putting his henchmen in an IRS.
So if he sends that list over, I think it
was a really good chance they actually do prosecute and
we see this play out exactly the way we stopped
it from playing out in the nineteen seventies.
Speaker 12 (36:50):
By the way, in Texas, they keep saying the mainstream oh,
Antifa is just a bunch of kids.
Speaker 5 (36:53):
You know.
Speaker 12 (36:54):
They dress up in pepe things and alligators. In Portland,
there's dancing in the streetss their flower children.
Speaker 13 (37:00):
Yeah, tell that to the families of the ICE agents
that were shot by a legend Antifa activists just within
the last month here in the Lone Star State.
Speaker 2 (37:09):
Now, that's complete nonsense.
Speaker 13 (37:10):
And I'm sick and tired of the mainstream media not
just running interference for the Marxist Progressi leftists. They're not
running interference and basically covering for domestic terrorists in this country.
It's beyond reprehensible.
Speaker 12 (37:21):
And by I think you've had two incidents. You had
the one on the roof and you had the other
one with the agents. I mean, until Antiva's put down,
they're going to continue on the best way and smartest
way to do it is not run After all, the
gunmen and you're just playing whack them all. The way
to do it is not just go to the training element,
which is in the National security apparas and quite frankly
in the military.
Speaker 5 (37:41):
The best way to.
Speaker 12 (37:41):
Do it is to go after the money in the organization.
Matt Plumbo, you have spent your career. You're Dan Bongino's guy.
You run the Bongino site, You've been his producer for years.
You wrote this amazing book on Soros I still think
the best book on source written, and immediately told me
he said, Hey, I'm going after the kid because he
the devil spawn and may actually be bigger than the
(38:02):
old man.
Speaker 5 (38:03):
Where do we stand with this? Now?
Speaker 12 (38:05):
The shocking because hey, the Treasury Department's got their Terrorists
Financing group up on money laundering and terrorists financing and
the IRIS simultaneously. It's a pincer move from Scott Bessen.
And you can tell how important this is because the
mainstream media is in total meltdown of this, probably more
than anything else they're dealing with.
Speaker 19 (38:24):
Welcome more to guys, Thanks for having me on. Alex
and the OSF clearly are afraid. They're in defense mode,
you know, in their press releases, they're saying they didn't
knowingly fund any violent groups. And I think the word
knowingly is doing a lot of the heavy lifting in
that sentence.
Speaker 2 (38:43):
But it's also irrelevant.
Speaker 19 (38:46):
You know, they're arguing that, oh, we're not directly paying
people to do violence doesn't mean anything if groups have
a record of doing violence. You know, the analogy I've
given is they will hand gasoline and matches to an
artistenist then say, well, we couldn't have possibly known what
was going to go on there. And Alex cited a
(39:06):
New York Times article that made that exact argument, and
they had claimed that a recent report from the Capital
Research Center, which does profiles on left wing groups, had
made that exact claim. There's no evidence of any direct funding.
And you know, I read the report and I'll read
directly from it. The Open Society Foundation since twenty sixteen
(39:27):
gave eighty million dollars to pro terror groups. And this
is splip between groups that are themselves going out and
committing acts of violence, or are making light of violence,
doing propaganda for groups like Hamas to downplay their atrocities,
or providing legal aid, you know, free legal aid to
these protesters and we talked in the last show how
(39:51):
Alex had used environmentalist groups sort of as a front
for other left wing causes, and that he had authorized
over four hundred and thirty eight in new spending to
environmental groups ever since he took over. But that's only
a small percentage of what they actually do. They're sort
of a catch all for left wing activism, and a
(40:11):
lot of the Palestinian groups he funded are in that
pro terror category where regardless of your position on the
Israel Palestine conflict, even if you are, you know someone
on the right who is more sympathetic to the Palestinians.
It's no doubt that these left wing groups are really
anti American groups, and that is just their front issue.
Speaker 5 (40:30):
We saw that with.
Speaker 19 (40:31):
Them, their number one issue being well, we want to
cease fire, and then the second we get a ceasefire.
I don't think Rashida Taleb had posted on Twitter for
a couple of days after that even happened, never mentioned it.
Most of these groups calling for ceasefire now never mentioned it.
Did not give Trump any credit because they didn't really
care about that issue. That was just the rallying cry.
(40:52):
But they have a million other little things I want
to do now when it comes to other things the
IRS could look into, and we talked about this in
the last show. In the last chapter of my book
on Alex that comes out in about two weeks. I
looked into all of the groups in the US that
he had funded the year he took over the OSF,
(41:12):
which is the most recent year we have data, and
I looked at groups. It's over five hundred thousand in funding,
and there are a number of groups that are set
up basically to give plausible deniability. They are in this
sort of funds of funds category well where he will
give ten million dollars to a group, and I'll go
through the social media, their YouTube, their website. There is
(41:34):
no activity, no press releases, no news of everything anything
they're doing, but they present themselves as active groups. And
then you go through their financials, their public statements, and
all their operations are giving money to other groups, and
then you know their expenses will be one hundred bucks
a year. It's just things that don't add up, and
it's to give He is layering the funds so that
(41:57):
you cannot in those cases directly linked him Dan anything
and his father had done this with the Tides Foundation
for Forever basically, or the Rock you know, the Rockefeller groups,
but his son is doing it to have much greater degree.
Speaker 5 (42:11):
Can you hang on for a second. I want to
hold you into the I want to hold you into
the next break.
Speaker 12 (42:15):
I want to talk about the eighty million that's already
gone to pro terror groups right in the in the
in the word when their lawyers send out a release.
Speaker 5 (42:22):
That's been shopped and they go knowingly.
Speaker 12 (42:25):
They're already you're already seeing them catering exactly. They're they're, they're,
they're they're already laying their illegal defense. They know they've
got big problems. And they've never had Treasury come after him.
They've never had the I R. S come after him,
and they've never had them come after him for money
laundering and for terror financing.
Speaker 5 (42:41):
And these these have very stiff penalties.
Speaker 12 (42:45):
Is right now Bolton is getting arraigned I think in Maryland,
in Green Belt, Maryland on his eighteen counts, each count
has ten years, so it's one hundred and eighty years
in prison.
Speaker 5 (42:56):
We'll go into all that.
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Speaker 12 (44:56):
I don't know if there's any group that's been more
to the forefront of the how we've had on parents'
rights and this culture all of a. Tina Dskovitz, Bo
Davis and Tina, you're down in Orlando today, We're covering it.
We're covernant non stop here in real America's voice for
pulling out speakers. We've got a bunch of rap people
down there. What are you trying to competent? I think
this is your fourth or fifth conference?
Speaker 5 (45:17):
What do you guys?
Speaker 12 (45:18):
I thought Trump won and you guys helped so much
in the victory. Isn't the parents' rights fight over, ma'am?
Speaker 9 (45:27):
Oh?
Speaker 15 (45:27):
I wish it was over, Seeve.
Speaker 9 (45:29):
I wish parents truly could experience the fundamental right to
raise their children. Unfortunately, it's still under attack across the country.
Speaker 5 (45:39):
And you here, Steve, Yeah, I got you right now, perfectly. Okay, Okay,
go ahead, Tina.
Speaker 15 (45:45):
Want me to take it away again, Steve.
Speaker 5 (45:47):
Take it away again.
Speaker 9 (45:50):
Yeah, I was just saying that, unfortunately, parents' rights are
still under attack in America. You would think at this
point the left and the radicals would get the hint
moms are not backing down and that we have the
fundamental right to raise our children. But it's still school
boards across the country are still stumping all over them,
whole states are defying President Trump, and there's still a
(46:10):
lot of work to be done.
Speaker 12 (46:12):
So what is to be done? I mean, you guys
have done so much. You're one of the key groups
that delivered.
Speaker 5 (46:18):
The victory for President Trump.
Speaker 12 (46:19):
What is we've had the first wave of attack where
we started to take over school boards.
Speaker 5 (46:25):
Is it pushback or are we losing ground? I mean,
what's the plan?
Speaker 2 (46:31):
Yeah?
Speaker 9 (46:31):
You know, Randy Weingarton just came out with her new book.
If I'm not even going to give it any more
acknowledgment than that, but she even states in there that
you know, Mom's Liberty came out strong. We won over
five hundred school board seats, which sounds amazing when you
say that number, but there's thirteen thousand school districts in
this country. And so in her book she came back
(46:52):
and said, we doubled down, we invested, and they have
hundreds of millions of dollars. Moms with Liberty's budget is
nothing like that, and so we have a lot way
to go. Unfortunately, this is probably going to take decades
to get our schools back from the teachers union completely.
And then you know, there's problems at all levels of government. California,
New York right now, they're violating parental rights at every
(47:12):
turn with state laws.
Speaker 15 (47:14):
Governors are signing them into law.
Speaker 9 (47:16):
And so we love President Trump and we're grateful for
all he's doing, but it's just part of the story.
Speaker 5 (47:21):
Well, as you know with the onslaughter news.
Speaker 12 (47:25):
Geopolitically, you know, Zelenski's in the White House day, we're
on the verge of war with the Russians. We got
a war economic war with the Chinese. Countis Party Venezuela
all over.
Speaker 5 (47:34):
Why is what the.
Speaker 12 (47:35):
Momster Liberty doing so important that you're down there covering
and Rav we're giving wall.
Speaker 16 (47:40):
To wall coveras this weekend, We'll tell you this, Steve,
I became a parent twenty months ago, and so I
have a young son, and I'm lucky to be in
the Free State of Florida, a Tina, thank God for that.
But I have to start thinking about these things. You know,
I've covered conferences in the past, Sea Pas whatever here
and there, but never before I've covered a conference like
this when I'm is actually a parent. So to me,
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it's an educational experience to me, and I know that's
what Moms for Liberty does is empower educate parents and so,
but it's not just for moms, it's for dads too.
I noticed there's a panel Steve on fatherhood which Pastor
John al Munchuku is going to be a part of
Benny Johnson is moderating at Graham Allen. So thing, it's
important for people to know that it's not just about moms,
it's about the dads too. And Tina, I just like
to ask you too, what are three things that maybe me,
(48:23):
as a new parent need to be thinking about right now?
Speaker 9 (48:27):
You need to think about where your child is going
to go to school. There's long waitlists right now if
you want to put him in some very special private schools.
But you know, are you prepared to homeschool? I'd say absolutely,
you and your wife are probably prepared, but you need
to make those choices where are you living. Unfortunately, in
a lot of places in America outside of Florida, you
still have to go to the school by your zip code,
which is just unacceptable. So number one, where is your
(48:49):
kid going to go to school? Number two, get prepared
to be on the front lines. Join Moms for Liberty.
Are you a member yet?
Speaker 4 (48:55):
Nah?
Speaker 15 (48:55):
Yeah, but it looks like I much the join you see, Steve,
I'm learning. Yeah, we have dads all across entry.
Speaker 9 (49:00):
Seven of our three hundred and twenty chapters are actually
led by dads, So you could run the chapter in
your county if you wanted to.
Speaker 2 (49:06):
I'm Broward.
Speaker 15 (49:07):
Yeah, oh gosh, good luck with that one. It's tough.
Broward is tough.
Speaker 9 (49:10):
And so number two is, you know, get involved and
get activated now so you understand the issues that are coming.
There are issues with AI with tracking your child's data now.
Speaker 15 (49:19):
With your two year old. Is that what you said
almost two twenty months.
Speaker 9 (49:22):
Yeah, the government's already tracking his data. And so Mom's
Liberty can help you protect and opt out in the
places that you need to opt out.
Speaker 12 (49:29):
The two year or bow two years old, you're about
to go into the fun part of parenthood. We're going
to check in with missus Davidson later and see what
your learning curve has been like in the last couple
of years. Right, you're getting guides from Tina. We want
to talk to the source. H Tina Real quickly talked
to us today. The agenda today and tomorrow. We're going
to be covering NonStop on Real America's Voice.
Speaker 5 (49:48):
So what should we look for.
Speaker 9 (49:51):
Yeah, we just closed up with the Florida Attorney General,
James Attmeyer and doctor Latipo, our surgeon general who recently
banned all vaccine mandates in school, which our moms stood
to their feet and cheered for that when he was
discussing that today. So it's been a strong morning of
Florida leaders. We're moving into breakouts right now. We've got
covering all kinds of topics, AI and education, sex stortion
(50:14):
happening on digital platforms, of children getting into some deep
and depressing things unfortunately, but here at Moms for Liberty,
we know our future is right. We have a big
lunch session coming up very soon with a couple of
panels with Coridangelis and some alternatives at teachers unions.
Speaker 15 (50:30):
So we're very excited about that.
Speaker 5 (50:32):
Tina, where are people.
Speaker 12 (50:33):
Go to more from Moms Deliberty to follow this on
streaming and your social media?
Speaker 5 (50:38):
Where they go?
Speaker 9 (50:40):
Yeah, you guys are streaming it all day. You could
go to our website too, Momsterliberty dot Org. It should
be right there on the front page and all of
our socials Moms number four Liberty bo Davidson.
Speaker 12 (50:50):
What's your social media? How do people follow you while
you're down there?
Speaker 5 (50:53):
Covenant Sir?
Speaker 16 (50:54):
Yeah, of course people can find me at v BO
Davidson and it's a pleasure to be on with you. Steve,
and I got to say, you know, being just a
young dad and learning here at Momster Liberty is the
place to be. And here we are in Orlando too,
you know where Disney is. I hope we've made some improvements, Tina,
I really hope we have.
Speaker 12 (51:10):
Got Terry Shilling, You got Benny Johnson, Bo Davison. Quite
a crew down there, guys. Thank you so much for
streaming all day and tomorrow Moms for Liberty, Tina, great job, Thank.
Speaker 2 (51:19):
You guys, Thank you Stan, thank you Steve.
Speaker 12 (51:23):
Really proud of Rav. We're juggling Texas. We're juggling Orlando, Florida,
Moms for Liberty. We're juggling Marine Corps two fifty out
in Camp Penalton. A lot going on this week in
a real emerksy voicetone leaders, we are going to take
a short commercial break. My wingman Brian Harrison is here.
We got an all star cast in hour two stick
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