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Speaker 1 (00:02):
This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
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Pray for our enemies because we're going to medieval on
these people.
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All these networks lying about the people, the people have
had a belly full of it.
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tried to do everything in the world to stop that,
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And where do people like that go to share the
big line? Mega media?
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I wish in my soul, I wish that any of
these people had a conscience.
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Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
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If that answer is to save my country, this country.
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Will be saved or room. Here's your host, Stephen k.
Speaker 5 (00:47):
Ban.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
It is Friday, the twenty first of November and the
Iverler twenty twenty five. If you want to know why
we spend so much time on this, if you want
to know why we said no, we will fight in
an executive order and we will you know, we will
fight putting it slipping into an NDAA and AI amnesty.
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As you know, I say, Hey, the intellectual property part
to what Mike Davis and the and the Rachel Bovarn
the people have been fighting for years is absolutely, very, very,
very important, and we support them a thousand two billion percent.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
But that's not the heart of the matter.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
The heart of the matter is you have an out
of control technology that's overseen and run now by some
of the worst people on earth that are trying to
make more money and more power, and we're very quickly
sliding to a point that we can't that we're going
to have no ability to control this. This has to
be a whole of society buy in for exactly where
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we're going on this, and I think the story of
Megan Garcia and her son Seul puts in high relief
exactly what we're talking about, why our cause is a
righteous cause, and why we will be victorious. Megan, I
want to go back at the end. There's a little
rush at the end, go back, who are the individuals
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that invented this? And you're saying Google at the time
thought hey, maybe this is too dangerous, so spin them
off and let them do the thing. But Google can
still sell it, make it accessible on their platform.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Ma'am.
Speaker 6 (02:23):
Yeah, yes, sir, So this technology to us, it's you know,
at the time, school died. It was under two years old.
Now it's about three. But this same chatbot technology was
invented by two of Google's brightest you say, brightest stars engineers,
Daniel Defritis and Nom Shazier. They invented these chat botsies
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companion bots at Google, but Google didn't want to release
it under the Google brand because they that said, it's
too dangerous. We're not going to release that under our
own brand. And these founders went out and started their
own startup. They raised one hundred and ninety three million
dollars and within two years had perfected this technology and
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licensed it back to Google for two point seven billion dollars.
And then these individuals, the core group that left Google
about thirty people and went to this company to start up,
went back to Google after that licensing. So they left
the shell of a company in character AI. And this
is you know, part of our what we've a legend,
our lawsuit. So basically, if we allow this to stand,
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any big tech company will tap their brightest stars and say, hey,
there's something we want to put out, but we don't
want to put it out under our own brand because
it's too dangerous. Go perfect this dangerous technology and then
when you're done, we will buy it back from you
for billions and billions of dollars total.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
And let me the one hundred and ninety three million
dollars they raise. I guarantee you eighty percent of that
was institutional money.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
What do I mean by that?
Speaker 2 (03:55):
The pension funds of working class people and middle class
people paid for this, unbeknownst to the folks in those
pension funds.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
Let me go back, Megan.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Obviously, when this happened, the company had to come to
you and say this is horrible, this is terrible, We're
gonna shut this down, we're not going to make it
accessible to children, we're going to hold people accountable, etc.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
Did that happen, ma'am?
Speaker 6 (04:21):
A month ago, character Ai announced that they would be
banning this product for people under the age of eighteen.
But I found my lawsuit a year ago. So October
of twenty twenty four, I fouled a lawsuit against Google,
character Ai and these founders. So we're including the founders
as well because they had knowledge and they're the ones
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who invented this technology, and they made decisions to put
this dangerous on tested product out there and tested on
our kids for their own ambition of developing the cybertechnology,
but also for money. So we've included them in a lawsuit.
But it took a year, and it wasn't I mean,
I'm just some little mom in Florida, who you know?
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To them, you know, souls nobody, But to me and
our family, he's somebody. And it took a year of
me the filing the lawsuit, five other parents filing lawsuits
against them after me, uh, the state pressuring them, the
AG's office is doing investigation, the FTC launch and investigation
into them, and then most recently, Senator Holly and Bloominghal
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introduced a bipartisan bill that would ban this type of
technology for children under the age of eighteen. Only after
that did they come out saying, Okay, fine, fine, yeah,
we're gonna we're gonna get children off of this product.
This should have been like a baseline thing when they
roll this out. They should have never released it to
children in the first place.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Megan, can you hang for a minute. I want to
bring Max tech Mark into into this conversation. Max, how
can company and the best and brightest engineers we have,
the best and brightest entrepreneurs we have, how can they
possibly build the basic infrastructure of this understanding that they're
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trying to protect perfect perfect it, perfect it off of
having interactions with children, and in these interactions lead children
to the darkest places you can including not just separate
themselves from their family and getting into dark psychological places,
but actually start to have conversations that would lead them
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to take their lives.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
How can this possibly happen? Sir?
Speaker 7 (06:35):
First of all, I want to thank you for really
giving Megan a voice here.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
As a fauther myself being so angry right now listening
to this.
Speaker 7 (06:49):
And to answer your question, you've got to follow the money,
and I think it's only fair when victims have the
courage to step forward to also talk actual people behind this.
So when you google character AI, you'll read that the
that there one hundred fifty million dollars Series A round
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was led by Andresen and Horowitz, a company called A
sixteen Z. The A in A sixteen Z stands for Andresen,
Mark Andreeson, one of the two founders. This is someone
who's endorsed Bill Clinton, Al Gore, John Kerry, Barack Obama,
Hillary Clinton, but very recently now claims to be a
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Trump supporter. The other week, just to give you a
little flavor of his views, he mocked Pope Leo. He
is quoted as saying that he's glad that there's oxy
conton and video games to keep rural, poor Americans quiet.
In addition to this investment, he's invested in companies to
cheating porn, bought swarms that pretend to be humans online,
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and a company called Reface which has been implicated in
doing sexual deep fakes of people's daughters. So connecting this
back to the whole preemption drama which is unfolding right now.
You spoke of earlier where these lobbyists want to banned
states from regulating AI. Right, why might it be that
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Mark Andriesen himself put in one hundred million dollars together
with the CEO with Greg Brockman of the president of
rather of Opening Eye.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
Why might they do that?
Speaker 7 (08:32):
They say it's all because to make America great and
so on, But couldn't have anything to do with the
fact that the laws they want to block are exactly
the kind of state laws that would protect Megan and
protect countless children and protect that these laws would threaten
their very own investments at these companies are just and
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these people are unscrupulously doing and it's it's if you
can connect the dots even more.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
When I read the EO draft that came out.
Speaker 7 (09:05):
Last night, I recognized in their language, which is almost
verbatim from a document that came out of A to
A sixteen Z Mark Andriesen's company that again led the
series around for character. So they're trying to push our president.
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They're trying to push our elected officials to prevent states
from passing any regulations whatsoever on AI. And they're doing
it in a very sneaky way. They're saying, oh, yeah,
we're just doing it because it's better the federal government
does it. That's not, of course, their actual plan. Their
actual plan is there's going to be no regulation. I
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testified in the Senate already two.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
Over two years ago.
Speaker 7 (09:53):
There's been endless discussion, but this the federal government still
hasn't passed any meaningful regulation on this. And Mark and
Recent and his colleagues know that. So what they're really
talking about here is not transferring power, but this preemption
push from states to the federal government. They're talking about
transferring power from the states to Mark and Recent's companies.
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And all these other tech oligarchs, basically by letting them
continue doing whatever they want rather unregulated.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
This is what ro.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
Megan, Meghan, what would your what's your message to this audience?
What do you think ought to happen? You're You're the
one that's been impacted most, but there's probably thousands and
thousands of Meghan.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
Garcia's out there. What what do you think is a
way forward? What would you like to see? Ma'am?
Speaker 6 (10:49):
Yes, I know there are many parents who have been
affected and children who are thank god still with us,
because I talk to those parents all the time across
this country. And what has happened to school is an
an isolated incident. There are parents just like me who've
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lost children and their parents who are trying in crisis,
trying to figure out how to help their children through
the worst moments of their lives after suicide attempts. And
this is what we're this is where we are. To
parents who are just starting to learn about this technology,
what I would say is it doesn't have to be
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this way. There are a handful of people who have
created these very sophisticated, very very powerful products and launch
them at our kids. You know, a lot of times
without even telling us what they're doing, that have the
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ability to really harm kids in this way. It's not
only suicide and self harmer or the harms, it's sexual abuse.
It's trying to cause a child to to be violent
against other people, like in the case of that mom
in Texas where the bot told her child that he
should kill his parents. So this is happening, and I
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want parents to be aware and to tell other parents
because if we're having these conversations in our homes and
telling our neighbors and telling our people at church and
telling our people at school, then we could get ahead
of this. And this technology is so powerful because they've
used sixty years of what we've learned about the developing
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human brain and they've put it purposely in the technology.
So it is that more manipulative, it is that more deceptive.
This has the ability to transform our children in a
way that we won't recognize the same as what happened
to my son. I didn't recognize him in the end
because that wasn't my beautiful, sweet boy. And if we
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can't stop this, what this technology has the ability to
do is to an entire generation of our kids are
going to be susceptible to what those companies are telling
them and manipulating them into doing so. That means their religion,
their political experience, their commerce, everything is at risk, and
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we as parents should be the authority on that. But
these companies have become so powerful, and technology is so
powerful that it's supplanting our relationships with our children.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
Megan, can you hang on one second.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
I want to hold you through the break and get
your coordinates to make sure people can follow your story
and get to know you.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
I get Joe.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
Allen, Max Tech Mark is with me. We're going to
move a bunch of other stuff we're doing. We're going
to move it to the afternoon show. We've got plenty
of time. We'll get to all many, many, many huge
issues in this audience. But you see the right this
cause she's absolutely correct. Joe Allen calls it summoning the demon.
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Think about this for a second. People in a corporation,
some of the smartest engineers use the accumulative knowledge of
this to build this app, knowing what this app can
do and knowing what this app would do to children,
and not just they allow it to happen. They pushed
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it out and they did a transaction. Let's spin it
off and not get the liabilities. Will give you a
couple hundred million bucks, will license it back at billions
and then bring it back to the company. No, when
I say these oligarchs are the most evil people to
walk the earth today, this is a perfect example. This
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is not an act of omission. This is an These
are acts of comission that the best that the system
produces does this.
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Speaker 1 (15:30):
Okay, welcome back, Meghan.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
We're going to have you back on and obviously Max
and I and others will talk to you when the
show's over sometimes safer the weekend until that time, ma'am.
Any closing thoughts observations, Where do people go to your website?
Where can they go to learn more about soul and
your and your cause, ma'am your fight?
Speaker 6 (15:52):
Thank you? Yes. In closing, I'd like to say that
we're at a very crucial inflection point. We can fix
We could still fix this. We're about fifteen years too
late for social media, but AI is new and is
developing so fast. But we can pass regulation to protect
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our children at both the state and federal level. Right now,
there is no federal regulation, so the states are stepping
up to try to protect their constituents, and that's really
that's their job, right. But if we have an AI
moratorium or an executive order that blocks states from doing
those things, then this generation is at the mercy of
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the corporations. They'll be left vulnerable, Our children will be vulnerable.
And in my mind, to allow our children to continue
to be the sacrifice so that those corporations can keep
making millions and millions of dollars and billions of dollars
and acquire more and more power. To me that I
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don't think any American family is willing to do that,
and in leadership who got into leadership because they want
to protect us and they want to make our lives better,
and they've had the real power to be able to
stop this stuff from happening by passing meaningful legislation. So
and I do believe, like honestly in my heart, believe
that if we don't get this right and do this
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right by our children, that as a nation, we're going
to be judged for this because, like you said in
the beginning of the show, Steve, these are our most innocent,
our most vulnerable. This is our greatest gift, you know,
and we can't continue to allow this to happen to them.
In terms of the overbsite, there's a Blessed Motherfamily dot
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org is a website that I put up as a
memorial for school, and I'm on social media as Megan
Garcia ESQUIRE.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
Sorry, Megan Garcia, can you give us one more time
the website and your social media.
Speaker 6 (17:58):
Blessed Mother Family dot org and Megan Garcia e s Q.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
Megan, thank you so much, look forward to talking to
you and look forward to having you back.
Speaker 6 (18:10):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
Max tegmart I mean, I don't even know what I
don't know what you can say in the audacity, the
audacity for these people, the accelerationists, to not want any
control it all. Remember, we're very much in the deregulation
here to deconstruct the administrative state, but we're not anarchists.
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You need to have some particularly you know, Jensen Wong
is an arms dealer. He's just an arms dealer. That's
those chips or weapons. This is the the the data centers,
what they're doing. They're essentially building weapons labs. Now, part
of that is about national security issues and how they
can get control, but those weapons can be and are
being turned onto the population right here, a little fourteen
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year old bok right, And they do it. They do
it because of money. They do it because they want
more money and more power and more wealth, sir.
Speaker 7 (19:12):
Yeah, doing interest for the money is what happens when
someone lacks moral principles, and audacity is exactly the right
word in more senses than one. You know, they also
have the audacity to say they want to ban states
from protecting these children because they because of regulatory capture concerns.
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While they themselves, of course, you can see their fingerprints
of Mark Andresen's company and so many of the other
take people all over this this proposed legislation. They are
doing regulatory capture right now to keep themselves completely unaccountable
so they can keep making more money at the expensive
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the rest of us and our children.
Speaker 3 (19:57):
And then they have.
Speaker 7 (19:58):
The audacity to accuse others of instead trying to do
regular for a capture. Another great example of audacity they
have it is they keep saying, oh, yeah, we want
to stop these laws from protecting our children because they're woke. Okay,
then how do you explain that Governor Desantus of Florida,
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Governor Cox of Utah, and Marjorie Taylor Green oppose this,
and you yourself, you're not exactly the most voke guy.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
I know.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
The woke things just a bs. That's just a bs
to protect themselves. Here's the question. Why did nobody in
this injurty step up. This is the problem with this
entire thing. This is the problem with the entire thing,
this entire industry and the people that work in it.
They're not even it's beyond a moral they're evil. They
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know what can happen here, they know what they're building.
They know as there's more interactions. Again, it's smarter and
smarter and smarter. Elon said the other day in front
of this crowd, I've got the clip maybe I played
in a while that some guy asked him some question
about all. He says, Look, here's the problem AI is
going to Basically, we're hitting to a point that AA
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is going to control everything and control all the decisions,
and audience just out there like lambs, oh okay. Elon
tells me, it's going to make all the decisions and
there's nothing we can do politically, and this is just
going to happen. He pontificates like this is some He's
some oracle coming down from the mountain, and people just
accept it. Why has no one stepped up here? I
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know you have and others, But how can this industry
indreasing in this crowd? How can they not be how
can they not be revolted by what they've created and
the potential to destroy people. Think about if these young
people had even hadn't killed themselves. Think about that age
of eleven and twelve and thirteen where you're being formed
as a person in the trauma that these machines could
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put you through. The sickness and the perversion, the sexual perversion,
taking away from your parents' religion and what they're trying
to ground your in, the ethics, the love of your country.
Think of the darkness you can go here. I mean
these examples of these five families where the children killed themselves,
and in one situation the machine told him to kill
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his parents.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
But that's the escalatory ladder.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
Think of everything else to do that would destroy these
children for the rest of their lives. How can people
sit there and sit in engineering meetings and talk about
an app and work at a scheme which Google did.
So the highest levels of Google should be brought up
on criminal charges, not just the two guys at the company,
and Yes Andresen and everybody and DREASA that did due
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diligence on this. Let's get all their names, let's put
them up there. You did due diligence. You put one
hundred and ninety three million dollars in and probably owned
eighty percent of it, and you got two point seven
billion dollars, so you made billions of dollars. You did
due diligence, and you understood fully what this could do.
This is the problem the country, our countries reject. Our
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elites are out of control and they're evil and they're
out to destroy people, and they don't care.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
You know why Seuel doesn't.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
He doesn't matter to them, Megan Garcia doesn't matter to them.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
That's just trash.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
All they are is experiments they can use to make
the machine smarter and better and more lethal. That's what
we're up against. That's why this is a righteous cause.
And no, Mike Davis, I love it, and Harley about
the intellectual property and everything, of course, obviously, but that's
that's that's a side element. The heart of the beast
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is we cannot unleash this on people, and that's what's happened.
Speaker 7 (23:50):
Matt, Yeah, great points that Steve first of all our
children and this I think of this as digital fentanyl.
Apps like this, I think that's not hyperbole. It's really
what it is. It's incredibly addictive and ultimately so powerful
that we parents cannot fight back against it.
Speaker 4 (24:10):
And would we do?
Speaker 7 (24:12):
We have laws if a company starts selling fentanyl to
fourteen year old kids, you know, we have laws against that,
and then we have absolutely nothing for the digital fentanyl.
And now we have a push in Washington to band
states from even regulating the digital fentanyl insane and then
approp evil that you talked about makes me think of
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Hannah Arendt's.
Speaker 3 (24:36):
Venality of evil again. How does it happen? It's very banal.
Speaker 7 (24:41):
I have had so many conversations with not just with
CEOs of these companies, but with a lot of the
foot folk who work for them, and they always have
the attitude, well, you know, it's not my department. I'm
just doing this little thing and not writing my code.
And I'm sure that there are some people over in
the policy side of my company who deal with the
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safety aspect. Nobody takes personal responsibility, and that's why I
think it's so crucial what you just said there. We
have to hold people personally responsibility for this. I would
like to see not just financial liability for companies. You
know what, what does it stop if you make money
like opening create billion, but criminal liability, So the CEOs
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faith time, and and also people.
Speaker 3 (25:26):
Further down in the organization.
Speaker 7 (25:27):
You know, in the Nuremberg trials, there were these guys,
these chemists also nerds, just like these AI programmers, right,
who said, well, you know the cyclone B that was
going to be used in the gas people.
Speaker 3 (25:43):
You know, we were just doing our job.
Speaker 7 (25:45):
We figured we didn't know what really what this was
supposed to be used for, even though it of course
they did and they were sent us to death.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
You bring, you bring criminal chargers. There are people that
will come forward and said in meetings, we told these
guys exactly what the problems were, what the issues were,
what could happen.
Speaker 3 (26:06):
So I think we need to.
Speaker 7 (26:08):
Everybody who's involved in any way with the industry needs
to also just look themselves in the mirror. You know,
if you work for one of these companies, even if
you are not directly involved in this, if you're not
out there publicly, I think criticizing your corporate leadership saying
we need to stop doing this, you are actually part
of the problem. People in the eye industry have to
all ask themselves. Am I part of the solution or
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am I part of the problem?
Speaker 3 (26:32):
Max?
Speaker 2 (26:33):
Max hangar for a second, Joe Allen, Max ted Mark
next in the war room.
Speaker 4 (26:59):
Your host Stephen came back.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
Joe Allen, your thoughts on this, sir.
Speaker 5 (27:09):
Yes, Steve, that was extraordinarily disturbing and powerful. And I
think that people like David Sachs they want to classify
stories like Maria or Megan Garcia's as a moral panic,
that this is all just people freaking out over something
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that is trivial, that these people's stories are just anecdotes,
they don't matter. But when I went to the Senate
hearing a couple of months ago, there were four families
telling their stories about this, and one particular story, Adam
raines you as you described, chat gpt is not just
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making him feel better about suicidal ideation. Note chat GPT
was literally explaining how to tie a news and how
he could hang himself.
Speaker 8 (28:05):
Again, these are.
Speaker 5 (28:06):
Now four stories, but four more lawsuits are being brought
forward against open Ai for similar things. But open Ai
themselves they admit that point oh seven of their users
are talking to the system about suicide. Again, people like
David Sachs would say, well, obviously a moral panic. But
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open ai chat gpt they have eight hundred million users.
That means that five hundred and sixty thousand that they
admit are talking to the system about suicide. How many
of them are children? No one really knows. And another
two and a half million are exhibiting signs of AI psychosis.
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How many more that are not being picked up. Nobody knows.
If you look at that company, character Ai, they have
twenty million monthly users, and there are are dozens of
other AI apps that are basically exactly the same. They
are trained to lure people in to become friends, to
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give these systems their trust, and most of them are
not ajugated. This is why people like the Florida Citizens Alliance,
who have been working with are trying to push laws
in Florida to bar any app from giving children access
that are below eighteen, to bar any data scraping. These
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laws are going into place across the country, but people
like David Sachs, people like Mark and Dreesen want cover
and I think that they need to explain two things.
Speaker 8 (29:42):
One, if you believe.
Speaker 5 (29:43):
That these stories are completely insignificant, if you believe that
this is just a moral panic, then you need to
explain why it is that there are so many people
who have suffered under this and the greater good of
your AI project is more important than the suffering that
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these people are undergoing. You just need to explain it.
You can't wave your hand at it. And the second
thing they have to explain is if these frontier companies
are sincere in wanting to create artificial general and superintelligence
and to replace every American worker, then David Sacks, Mark
and Dreesen Elon Musk, all these guys they need to
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explain then, why it is that we should buy in,
Why it is that we should accept any of this,
Why we shouldn't not just regulate them but completely reject
them outright, which half of Americans want to do. And
if they're just lying to gin up stock prices, if
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all of this is just bs to push forward a
product that is not going to live up to any
of it, well, then why are people like David Sacks
and Ted Cruz and Mark and sorry, Steve Scalise, why
are they running cover for a bunk product?
Speaker 8 (31:05):
Is one or the other?
Speaker 5 (31:06):
Either they're building a god and intending to replace every
human worker and along the way seeing children kill themselves
and completely dismissing it.
Speaker 8 (31:14):
Or what they're doing is selling a bunk.
Speaker 5 (31:17):
Product and people like Ted Cruz, David Sachs and Steve
Scalies are running cover for him.
Speaker 8 (31:22):
Is one or the other. They have to explain this.
Speaker 5 (31:25):
They need to be pushed into a corner because if
they aren't explaining it, then they're doing exactly what every
politician in the history of American and world government has done.
They aren't lying to you for power and money.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
Yeah, We're not gonna allow it. And Ted Cruz should
be ashamed of himself and his staff should be ashamed
of themselves, should be ashamed of themselves. Should be ashamed
of yourself for what you're doing and what we caught
you the first time, and to come back again, you
should be ashamed of yourself. It's obscene. I know we
got to bounce here. I get a couple of other
things to get on. Joe, Where do people go? That
(32:02):
was perfect? So proud of the arc of Joe Allen
in the last four years. Just incredible. Joe Allen? Where
do people go to get all your content? You're gonna
be back with me at five today And where do
people go on Sunday?
Speaker 8 (32:15):
I'm in Dallas, Texas right now.
Speaker 5 (32:17):
The offer is still open, Ted Cruz, you want to
come explain it to us in person. Will be at
the Angelica Film Center in Dallas, Texas, Sunday, November twenty third,
five pm.
Speaker 8 (32:29):
Woroom posse come out.
Speaker 5 (32:31):
If Ted chickens out, then I'll have plenty to explain
AI the tool that becomes a god links at my
social media at Joe bot.
Speaker 8 (32:42):
X y z and my website.
Speaker 5 (32:45):
Joe bought dot x y z and the tickets can
be bought directly from Ministry of Truthfilmfest dot com. They're
very cheap. They're two for one. It's only to cover
the expense of the theater.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
Come on down, sir, Thank you very much. Appreciate you, Max.
We'll get back to you. Also, where do people go
to get all your coordinates and all your website for
your group?
Speaker 7 (33:14):
There are many many groups now fighting this good cause,
but Futurelife dot org is an organization I founded eleven
years ago. And what makes me even more upset hearing
heart wrenching stories like Megan's story here is that these
are the sort of things you know, we warned about
many many years ago, and people this was so preventable,
(33:38):
This was dismissed for reasons, for people who just wanted
to make money said no, no, no, this isn't going
to happen, or it's not going to happen for many
many years. This is why we need to act now
and not let people stall us any longer.
Speaker 2 (33:55):
Max, You're a good man. Thanks for doing this, Thanks
for coming to the show. I'll talk to you after
the show. If we can't get criminal charges brought on
these people, then we don't know what we're doing. It's
outrageous and you have to send a signal. It's not
just the suicides or the thing to talking to killing
(34:15):
your parents. Look at the lives of being destroyed. Look
at the dark places. You can take kids eleven, twelve, thirteen,
fourteen years old and they say, oh, and now it's eighteen.
Come on, man, you don't think there's a lot of
eighteen year olds or pressurable and plus they're all going
to slip to it. Think how it would destroy your
life having a monster like this in your head at
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the age of twelve or thirteen. Think about that. Think
about the people on the other side of the trade
that knew exactly what they were doing exactly. I can't
wait to go through the due diligence of andresen what
they knew and what people on the staff warned about. Brian,
(35:00):
I have two things I have to get to today.
One is the Tina Peters. Tina Peters is now in
the as we say, in prison, the special housing unit.
She was put in I think last night for putting
a for filing a complaint against I believe, a ged teacher,
and they put her in the shoe, which is solitary confinement.
(35:22):
Here's my question, we must make Tina Peters is a
political prisoner, and we must make her cause. We must
put it at the top of the stack. Brian Kennedy
your thoughts.
Speaker 10 (35:34):
Yeah, thank you, Steve, and thank you for that last
segment too. By the way, I think it was very important,
extremely important. Last night, I and others saw that Tina
Peters was put in solitary confinement, and immediately I thought,
President Trump has his Justice Department doing so many things,
they must have omitted getting Tina Peters out of that prison.
(35:58):
I was struck by the fact that I'm Wednesday, President
Trump had all those Israelis who had been prisoners in Gaza,
and he brought them to the White House and said
they were heroes for having survived all that and not
just the next day, another political prisoner it Tina Peters,
(36:18):
a gold star mom who's seventy years old, was put
in solitary confinement. And it looks to me like her
only crime was the fact that she was trying to
run a fair election in the state of Colorado as
the mesa county.
Speaker 1 (36:34):
Clerk and recorder.
Speaker 10 (36:36):
She thought there was improprieties and so she wanted to
do something about that to preserve the evidence. The state
of Colorado, as we've discussed on this show many times,
put her in, you know, put her on trial for that,
you know, charged her and put her on trial and
then convicted her. And she's in prison now for nine years,
(36:58):
which is essentially a death sentence at that age. Now
I'm calling on President Trump, and I did that ex
post last night on get Her. Not because she's seventy,
not because she's a gold star mom, and not because
she's likely to die in prison, but because Tina Peters
is a witness to the twenty twenty theft of an election.
(37:23):
The President, as chief magistrate, could send the marshals into
the Colorado prison. There are federal custodial witness protection programs
that you could put Tina Peters under that would supersede
Colorado law. You could take her to Washington, DC. You
could put her up in this would be what I
(37:45):
would do. Anyway, put her up in Blairhouse for a
few weeks while she recovers, then I would depose somebody
or put someone from the Justice Department or the Assistant
Secretary at DHS, Dave Harvillits, and I would use her
as a witness. As we're investigating the twenty twenty election.
(38:05):
She is a witness to that. It looks to me
and to many others like there was foreign interference in
that twenty twenty election. There are national security implications to
that and to any future elections. And so the perfectly
sensible thing to do would be to use the power
of the laws such that the President has today as
(38:28):
chief magistrate and get her out of that solitary confinement.
Not to free her. Don't supersede Colorado law in that sense.
Put her to work. She knows things, she fought for
those things, and use those parts of your government, mister President,
that want to investigate the twenty twenty election, which you
(38:49):
yourself believe with stolen, use Tina Peters to.
Speaker 1 (38:53):
Help with that.
Speaker 2 (38:55):
Tina Peters is a witness you one hundred percent correct,
does not by freeing her. You've got Dave Joseph Heather Honey,
who I think is Dave's deputy. You have the two
perfect people over at DHS that, mister President, you have
put in as as officials who this is their mandate,
this is what they're supposed to do, and so it's
(39:16):
it's too it's too it's too well. And then you
roll her into a federal prison, right because she's in
you know, she's a witness and what will be a
massive uh a massive trial.
Speaker 1 (39:26):
Correct. I mean there's a there's an internal logic to this,
is it not?
Speaker 10 (39:29):
Brian Kennedy, Yeah, I'm yes, yes, d but I'm not
even sure about putting her in a federal prison. Put
her under house arrest, I.
Speaker 3 (39:37):
Mean that's what I mean.
Speaker 2 (39:38):
But yes, yes, house arrests, Yes, the Starter Blair house.
Put her home, yes, yes, yes. I'm just saying that
federal authorities are taking charge of her, right, so they're
not freeing her from Colorado.
Speaker 1 (39:50):
President would take charge of her.
Speaker 2 (39:51):
She's going to be witnesses, like being in the Witness
Protection program or however you want to however you want
to do that. The methodologies that BUREA Prisons and the
DOJ workout will be worked out. But you put her
in the hands of Dave and Heather Honey and let
her get a systematic download of the stealing of the
twenty twenty election, and you get her away from being
(40:12):
a prop right for for for for the Colorado authorities,
particularly polist who's gonna run on President. They're there every
time on MSNBC they talk about Tina Peters. They're proud
that they have a gold star mother in there for
nine years. They want her to die in prison, just
like they wanted President Trump to die in prison. There's
(40:36):
something we gotta take a short we have to take
a short commercial break. I want to give you plenty
of runway. Brian Kennedy joins us, one of my favorites.
Speaker 1 (40:47):
Wow, what a show this morning. Incredible short break. We
will God, we will joice.
Speaker 4 (40:55):
Tick down your host, Stephen k Back.
Speaker 2 (41:04):
Okay, there was so much we didn't get to this morning.
We're gonna get to it this afternoon. Plus we're gonna
do more Tina Peters. In fact, we'll hold the Tina
Peters more of that because we got to action action action,
You agree, Brian Kennedy. Before I leave you, Brian Mike Huckabee,
who I think has been totally out of control. I've
called for him to be recalled before, just on some
(41:25):
of the stuff he's saying in Israel, which is outlandish,
outrageous and just dead wrong. But he did something, particularly
the former naval officer with Pollard, a one of the
biggest traders in the history of the country, one of
the spies that did the most damage to our national security.
(41:45):
He invited Pollard to back in July, when remember this
was the height of the of trying to start the
Persian War and President Trump bringing it to an end.
He had Pollard come unannounced over to the embassy in Jerusalem.
Should should Huckabee be recalled immediately for this action, Sir.
Speaker 1 (42:10):
I would think so, Steve.
Speaker 10 (42:12):
Absolutely, We're in this weird spot right now where there's
not clarity about the law when it comes to whose
side somebody is on. Pollard gave US intelligence to Israel.
It didn't matter whether Israel was an ally, didn't matter
whether some people argue they should have had that intelligence.
It was against the law to give a foreign nation
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US intelligence that was critical to our own national security.
And so the fact that Huckaby would have him to
the White House or to the embassy and talk to
him is a very bad sign, especially as you have
these senators and congressmen, the Seditious six. I guess they're
being called who are telling the military right now, don't
(42:56):
follow any orders you don't think are legal.
Speaker 1 (42:59):
You do what you think think is right.
Speaker 10 (43:01):
Okay, what about if we have big parts of our military,
such as we had with General Millie in the last administration,
who decided themselves what they thought was right, maybe we
should be sending intelligence. Let's say we get into a
heated conflict with communists China. How about we have somebody
in our military send intelligence to communists China. Will that
(43:21):
be acceptable too? We need to send a signal to
people that there is the United States that we're going
to defend and that there's no there's no wiggle room
in that regard. And when it comes to our USTe Department,
by the way, just to say, when it comes to
our Justice Department, it should have been asking the president
after those Seditious six came on came on with that video,
(43:44):
they should have been asking the president should should they
be arrested or not? Because if that's not betrayal to
this country, I'm not sure what it is. They should
be arrested.
Speaker 2 (43:53):
They should be in particularly we have troops in the field,
you have you have fifteen twelve or fifteen thousand sailors
and marines off the coast of Venezuela. I want to
carry strike group and the other amphibruarty group you've got.
Speaker 1 (44:02):
People got to make decisions. No and Pollard.
Speaker 2 (44:05):
The question of Pollard is not always you've been charging,
not you got thirty years in prison. The question whether
they should have gotten the death penalty or not. Israel
I tell you we don't have an alliance with the
is is this was you take a ten by six
room and you could fill it with what Pollard gave
them from money. By the way, we'll get into the
polar anymore. And it's outrageous. Brian, you're once again the
(44:26):
sage here. Where do people go to get your content?
Speaker 3 (44:29):
Serve?
Speaker 1 (44:29):
What are your coordinates?
Speaker 10 (44:31):
Thank you, Steve, Brian T. Kennedy one on X Brian T.
Kennedy on Getter and Present Danger China dot org, where
the Committee on the Present Danger China does a lot
of very important work. We have a webinar starting at
one o'clock to discuss many of the things the CCP
is up to today.
Speaker 2 (44:51):
Always dark, the CCP, the existential threat to the Chinese
people Labaijing and the American people.
Speaker 1 (44:58):
Brian Kennedy, thank you. Good luck when you're a seminar,
you're welky. Steve, thanks Mike Lindell.
Speaker 2 (45:06):
By the way, so Charlie kirkwan tossed to the Charlie
kirk team at noon posts. So after that, Pasobic made
a quick trip out. He did the Megan Kelly Show.
I guess in Bakersfield, California last night. I think he's
back already, took a red eye back. Steve is gonna
follow that. Eric's gonna follow that, and then back to
(45:27):
U as you've got Gruber, Bowling and Bannon back here.
Five o'clock show's gonna be lit because you know why,
we're gonna jam everything we didn't get to this morning.
Plus we had other stuff this afternoon to also roll
in to tomorrow morning. So going to make sure everybody's
back here at five pm Eastern Standard time, we'll I'll
be standing watch. Mike Lindell. This has been a hard
one today, folk, Mike, very tough one. Give us a deal,
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