THE WAR ROOM WITH STEPHEN K. BANNON, EPISODE 4956

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
And do a reset. I want to play.

Speaker 2 (00:01):
I want to replay that entire presser because I think
it was only a couple of minutes, but I think
it's got some details in there.

Speaker 1 (00:07):
So as soon as you guys are ready to play it,
we'll do it.

Speaker 2 (00:10):
I also have to say, Jack, I've got a particular
problem with the thing about all the agencies working together.
As I've said many times, we understand they're all work together.
We assume you all weather, but I think we just
got to get down to the basics.

Speaker 1 (00:25):
And if we can play, if we can.

Speaker 2 (00:27):
Just put up that photo of the of the allege
of the shooter or the alleged shooter, the one that
got wounded, and they put in the uh they put
in the thing was that the I think that was
the alleged shooter, right we we I think we put
that up, and I'd like to play, just with Cash
and mayor Bowser in the assistant head of what DC

(00:47):
Metro has to say, because I'm not saying there's conflicting information,
but even that it wasn't it wasn't tight, it wasn't enter.

Speaker 1 (00:55):
You have to have let's get we don't have it.

Speaker 2 (00:59):
Okay, okay, Oh, Yeah, we're gonna reset Jack.

Speaker 1 (01:02):
We got to reboot here.

Speaker 2 (01:04):
What we know from this presser is that they called
it a targeted shooting. What happened earlier this afternoon, I
think around two fifteen or so at the Farragut near
the Farragut the Metro station, someone came around the A
shooter came around the corner and opened up on National

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Guard elements.

Speaker 1 (01:26):
That were in that were there.

Speaker 2 (01:27):
They were supposedly had weapons, Uh, they were shot. At
first it was reported by the governor of West Virginia
that they had they had died. What we do know
is that other national from the press or is that
other National Guard individuals got onto the shooter and uh
and let him have it. I think there's New York
posters reporting five rounds the h he was hit by

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five rounds or took five rounds. The the ABC News
and CBS arecuing. CBS News is reporting that they're there
is a there was up to ten to fifteen shots
coming from the gunman and they said it looked like
an ambush situation. So I don't know if they've got
more information than we just heard right there of the
targeted of the target information do we have this ready

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to play? I'll tell you what we're rebooting, Jack Posobic.
Right now, you're in the five o'clock hour of the
war Room. We obviously had a very different show ready
for you on the eve of Thanksgiving, but this is
actually in emergency in the in the nation's capital, very
near the White House. Let's go ahead, We're gonna take
it from the top. Let's go ahead and play the

(02:34):
and replay the presser.

Speaker 3 (02:36):
My name was Cash Bettel, FBI Director. We're here to
brief you on the tragic events that happened today at
approximately two to fifteen local time in Washington, DC, where
two of our brave members of the National Guard and
the Department of War we're brazenly attacked in a horrendous
act of violence. They were shot. They're in critical condition,
as you can see behind me. We have assembled the

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full force about the federal and state and local law
enforcement agencies to bear all of our resources to make
sure we find the perpetrators responsible for this heinous act
and make no mistake, they will be brought to justice.
Since this is an assault on a federal law enforcement officer,
this will be treated at the federal level as an
assault on a FED law enforcement officer. The FBI will

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lead out on that mission with our interagency partners to
include the Department of Homeland Security Secret Service atf DEA,
and we're thankful for the Mayor's assistance in this matter.
The Metropolitan Police Department and their skills in investigating homicides
and gun shootings in this city is exceptional. We will
work together collaboraively because this is a matter of national security,

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because it's a matter of pride. President Trump has been informed,
We've been in contact with the White House. We will
shortchange the American public with no resources to make sure
we find and safeguard our nation's capital right here in Washington,
DC and bring anyone responsible for this heinous act of
violence to justice. I would lastly like to add to

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the American public in the world, please send your prayers
to those brave warriors who are in critical condition and
their families. They are here serving our country. They are
here protecting everyday Americans and citizens around the world in
our nation's capital. They are the heroes of this day,
and we must remember them on this day and every day,
and their families and the sacrifice they have made. I

(04:24):
will now turn it over to Chief Peril of the
Metropolitan Police Department.

Speaker 4 (04:27):
Thank you, good afternoon everyone. My name is Jeff carroll On,
the Executive Assistant Chief here at the Metropolitan Police Department.
At approximately two fifteen this afternoon, members of the DC
National Guard were on high visibility controls in the area
of seventeenth and I Street Northwest when a suspect came
around the corner, raised his arm with a firearm and

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discharged at the National Guard members. The National Guard members
there were other members that were in the area. They
were able to after some back and forth, able to
to subdue the individual and bring them in the custody
within moments. Members of law enforcement in the area were
also able to assist and bring that individual into custody.
At this time, as the Director mentioned, the National Guard

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members are being treated at a local hospital. DC Fire
and HEMS responded to the scene to provide first aid
for those individuals and transport them to a local hospital.
The suspect in this case was also trans for treatment
at a local hospital.

Speaker 5 (05:25):
R Mayor, I'm Muriel Bowser. I'm the mayor of Washington,
d C.

Speaker 6 (05:31):
And I to want to send my thoughts and prayers
to the families of the guardsmen into the guardsmen who
are in critical condition in a local hospital. I am
joined by members in leadership from the DC National Guard,
from the West Virginia National Guard, United States Secret Service

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Deputy Mayra, APIA Fire Chief Donnelley, and Metro's general Manager
Ran Clark, and we join with the FBI Director in
ensuring that MPD investigates the US Attorney prosecutes this case
to the fullest extent of the law. I've had the

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opportunity to breathe US Attorney General Pambondi, who was speaking
to the President when I called, as well as the
United States Attorney Pierrot, who assured me that this case
will have her office's complete attention.

Speaker 5 (06:33):
Mayor, is there any other suspect?

Speaker 7 (06:36):
Gee?

Speaker 8 (06:37):
Sure?

Speaker 4 (06:38):
So now at this time, there's no indication there was
any other suspect. The one suspect that was involved in
this incident, they were shot during the interaction and they
were transports to the hospital for treatment.

Speaker 5 (06:47):
May Or, does this validate the need for the National
Guard here in DC?

Speaker 6 (06:51):
What we know, Andrea, is that this is a target
at shooting. One individual who appeared to target these guardsmen,
that individual has been taken into custody.

Speaker 9 (07:02):
Man, can you can tell us about a motive of
details on the condition of the two National Guards and
whether or not anyone else that's injured, And a.

Speaker 10 (07:10):
Quick question follow for the FBI direct you said that
we'll make sure we find the perpetrations for this act.
So just to clarify the person belief that responsible is
in custody and there are no other suspects.

Speaker 4 (07:23):
Sure, so I think I can start out again, Chief
Carol from MPD. So, both the individuals, the Guard members,
they aren't critical into condition at local hospital at this
time being treated. At this point, we have no other suspects.
We have reviewed video from the area. It appears like
I said, to be a lone gummen that raised the
firearm and ambushed these members of the National Guard, and
he was quickly taken into custody by other National Guard
members and law enforcement members. About a motive now at

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this time, obviously we're very in the plenary stages of investigations.
You know, there's a lot of things, a lot of
agents that are here from various federal agencies, law enforcement agencies.
We have the full power of the FBI and or
federal partners here in the task force. So we're looking
at all those different aspects, but we don't have any motive.

Speaker 2 (08:01):
Arms.

Speaker 4 (08:02):
The National guardsmen that were shot, I'm told they were armed.

Speaker 8 (08:07):
At this time.

Speaker 4 (08:07):
That's part of the pulmonary investigation. Sure, so how the
suspect was apprehended. As I said, the individual that suspect
came around the corner, he immediately started firing a firearm
at the two National Guard members. Uh So at that time,
there were other National Guard members that were in the area.
Uh they heard the gunfire. They actually uh were able

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to intervene and to kind of hold down the suspect
after he had been shot on the ground until law
enforcement got there within moments. At this point, we're still
investigating exactly who shot the individual. It's not clear at
this time. We don't know kind of weapon there was
DC police. It happened right in front of the Metro,
although there is no indication that the perpetrator was on

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the Metro. So there's Metro Transit police in the area
and obviously being on Seventeenth Street by the White House
Uniformed Division, Secret Service or in the immediate area as well.

Speaker 8 (08:58):
We do not know this time, still in the.

Speaker 4 (09:03):
Has been able to question the suspector.

Speaker 5 (09:05):
Is conditioned.

Speaker 4 (09:08):
Sure, and so, as I said, we're very preliminary in
the investigation, so we're looking too all aspects of who
the individual is, his connections. At this time, he's still
in the hospital receiving treatment.

Speaker 3 (09:16):
And I would just like to hang on. I would
just like to add the reason that this suspect is
in the reason that this suspect is in custody is
because of the bravery of the men and women of
the National Guard who responded due to their extensive training
to secure American lives. Today there was not any further
injury and any further shootings. We should highlight the fact
that the men and women of law enforcement, the Inner Agency,

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the Department of War, and the National Guard executed their
training with great precision today and prevented an even greater
tragedy from befalling us. These National guardsmen are heroes and
we must pray for their safety and their speedy recovery.
And as a chief set we are in the preliminary
stages of this investigation, we will run down every single lead,
every piece of evidence. This is the power of the

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US government at its best at the state, local, and
federal level. That is why this interagency group is standing
behind us to assure America in the world that we
will continue to keep DC safe. And thankfully we have
Metropolitan Police Department, the National Guardsmen and federal agents, and
the Department of Justice and an Attorney General willing to
prosecute the mission to keep Americans safe. And President Trump

(10:23):
has rightly stated that this heinous act will be investigated,
and he is thanked the National guards men and women
and the men and women of law enforcement.

Speaker 11 (10:33):
Did the suspects say anything at the time?

Speaker 12 (10:35):
Why is the West Virginia governor, stated Davis So.

Speaker 2 (10:42):
Jack Pasobik joins me, Jack, you headed right there. Of
course they're in the moment.

Speaker 1 (10:47):
Also, they're going to have a few minutes.

Speaker 2 (10:48):
Were prefer this, so you're going to have a little, uh,
you know, information, Maybe not on top of everything, but
I do think they can give us more information about
the shooter.

Speaker 12 (10:57):
Right.

Speaker 2 (10:58):
I understand he's not cooperating, but you could have said
he was a married didn't have to give us the pronouns.
I mean, it's just not it's not acceptable. You can
give us more basic information about what's going on. Jack
Psobic your thoughts, Well, Steve.

Speaker 13 (11:11):
Are you familiar with the tenets of Coulter's law and
Culter's law?

Speaker 2 (11:17):
What the longer it goes, the more you know it's
a hey, no more, no, it's part of the Muslim brotherhood?

Speaker 13 (11:23):
Is that the Well she didn't, she said, I believe
in she's a little more blunt.

Speaker 1 (11:28):
She's a little more blunt than that.

Speaker 14 (11:30):
Well. The longer, right, right, the longer of course he is.

Speaker 13 (11:33):
The longer that it takes for them to release a description,
the less chance that it was a white male.

Speaker 1 (11:40):
Yeah, you're saying, if.

Speaker 2 (11:41):
This guy had a Maga ball cap on, we would
notice name. First off, they already be scrubbing his social media.
You you would hear every every time he supported a
was that a Trump rally?

Speaker 14 (11:54):
Exactly? Do you you do have all that?

Speaker 13 (11:56):
You'd have pictures of him with like you know, me
and you or something like that, you'd have everything.

Speaker 14 (12:01):
So again, you know, it remains to be seen.

Speaker 13 (12:03):
But once again, the tenets of culture's laws seem to
be holding true. And so in this situation, you know,
there really is does need to be an understanding of
what's going on. And I think that you look at
the way that the right responded to the murder of
Charlie Kirk.

Speaker 14 (12:18):
You've seen recriminations.

Speaker 13 (12:20):
You've seen a lot of backstabbing, a lot of ankle biting,
a lot of people pointing fingers, a lot of bickering
and infighting rather than actually doing something about the people
who are shooting and killing patriots, national guardsmen, school children
in our country. We need to do something about that.
We don't have time for the bickering and the infighting.

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And then oh, you can't have this person on your podcast,
and we've got a tone police.

Speaker 14 (12:46):
We got to be really careful.

Speaker 13 (12:47):
No, those are not the people that are It's not
podcasters that are stacking bodies in the United States of
America right now. And I'm sick to death of so
many conservatives thinking that that's the most important thing in
the world. Charlie Hirk's family will have an empty seat
at their table tomorrow because of a violent leftist And
until we as a country and as a movement actually

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start to get really serious about this, he is not
going to be the last one.

Speaker 1 (13:15):
It's the head of the table.

Speaker 2 (13:17):
And Charlie's not gonna be with his family and not
gonna be with the country. I couldn't agree with you more.

Speaker 1 (13:22):
This is what I'm saying. I think this.

Speaker 2 (13:24):
Hopefully, this tragedy will reinforce to the President and his
team that America has his back. America wants the situation,
the situation dealt with. America does not want this thing
to devolve in more and more violence.

Speaker 1 (13:42):
And these people are all of our type.

Speaker 2 (13:44):
They're all outcast, They're not in the normal flow of
making America great again.

Speaker 1 (13:50):
We have to be blunt about this. Look at this angry.

Speaker 13 (13:54):
Charlie called them the Lost Boys of the West when
he spoke about that. These are the disaffected, disassociated young men.
And we also see a lot of the time migrant
violence as well, the same same idea. They're disassociated, they're
outcast from society, they never really quite fit into society.
And then they turn on TV and they get told

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it's Donald Trump, it's Magro Republicans, it's Charlie Kirk, it's
the United States National Guard that is putting you at risk.
So you've got to get up and do something about it.

Speaker 2 (14:26):
I tell you what, We're gonna take a short commercial
break here. Jackie're goanna stick around.

Speaker 1 (14:29):
You're kind of my Wingman.

Speaker 2 (14:30):
We're pulling together some we're pulling together some clips from
other channels and also getting more information as we go.
I want to thank everybody for sticking around. Not the
five o'clock show that we had in mind, but we're
gonna We're gonna stick it.

Speaker 1 (14:44):
Through and give you all the updated information.

Speaker 2 (14:48):
A targeted shooting of National Guard troops in Washington, d C.

Speaker 1 (14:53):
Near the White House.

Speaker 2 (14:54):
Short commercial break back in the warm in just a moment,
No all race.

Speaker 15 (15:24):
It's coming out of places like Chicago. It makes me
incredibly nervous that we're about to see people in law enforcement,
people in uniform, military, get nervous, get stressed, shoot at
American civilians.

Speaker 5 (15:37):
It is a very very.

Speaker 15 (15:39):
Stressful situation for these law enforcement and for the communities.

Speaker 5 (15:43):
On the ground.

Speaker 15 (15:44):
So it was basically a warning to say, like, if
you're asked to do something, particularly against American citizens, and
what exactly do we know?

Speaker 16 (15:53):
Basically just what you said, Katie, this shooting, I'm told
the current near the White House and in a place
called Farragut.

Speaker 8 (15:59):
Square in downtown DC.

Speaker 16 (16:01):
We're seeing video and social media of police rushing to
the scene. I checked in with the Secret Service because
they protect the White House, and was told that two
uniform National Guard members were involved in a shooting. At
least one of them was struck. Their condition is not known.
The nature of the incident was not known by this person.
It's being handled by the DC Police, not the Secret Service,

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because they've decided there's no nexus to the White House,
no threat to the White House. So the circumstances of
this incident are unclear. Remember, of course, that uniform National
Guard are regularly patrolling the streets of Washington, haven't been
deployed there by President Trump. That's subject to a legal fight. Actually,
five days ago a judge order the Trump administration to
halt that deployment. That's still being litigated. But again, so

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all we know is that two uniform National Guard members
involved in a shooting.

Speaker 17 (16:50):
One was struck.

Speaker 16 (16:52):
The condition of that person is unknown at this time.

Speaker 18 (16:55):
Their presence is also under question whether it's legal. Last week,
a federal judge the Trump administration's deployment of the National
Guard in DC was unlawful, arguing at lacks authority and
is violating the District of Columbia's sovereign powers under the
Home Rule Act. The Trump administration is appealing that order.
They filed their appeal ken last night.

Speaker 16 (17:18):
Yeah, that's right, and that will be ongoing. You know,
that's part of the litigation that's been happening around the
country or various challenges have been made, but the Trump
administration is standing by this policy of deploying National Guard
troops to cities, saying that it's necessary to combat crime.
As Tom just articulated, there's a lot of dispute about that,

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even among the National Guard members themselves, But in DC
it's been less controversial than in other places. Again, the
mayor sort of made a strategic decision to go along
with it, essentially initially, although the Attorney General is challenging
that deployment in court.

Speaker 8 (18:00):
But again, it hasn't.

Speaker 16 (18:02):
Been really much of a subject of contention on the
streets because oftentimes you'll see them essentially national Guard uniform
National Guard members gathered in groups, scrolling on their phones, chatting.
They're not really involved in very much that's controversial here
in d c K.

Speaker 18 (18:20):
The President says, and we didn't know much about that
third person. Now apparently we do. He says that the
shooter was also very severely wounded. But regardless, the President says,
we'll pay a very steep price. Jd Vance is in Kentucky.
He's going to be speaking soon. We're going to wait

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to see if he does address the shooting and what
happened in Washington, d C.

Speaker 1 (18:46):
Today.

Speaker 18 (18:46):
Again, the President is not in town. He is in Florida.
Jd Vance in Kentucky. That being said, it's Washington, d C.
A lot of high value targets. It involves two National
Guard members, and so much has been locked down, including
the White House.

Speaker 14 (19:04):
And there's a ground.

Speaker 18 (19:04):
Stop at Reagan National Airport, which is just on the
outside of the city until four o'clock. Again, this is
the busiest travel day of the year, so a groundstop
at this moment is significant, It's meaningful. We've seen multiple
different law enforcement agencies on the scene, including DC Police,
Metropolitan Police, including the ATF, the US Marshals, the FBI,

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the Secret Service. The big question we have right now,
and Kendlanean pointed this out a moment ago.

Speaker 14 (19:36):
Was this a targeted attack.

Speaker 18 (19:38):
Did the person who shot these two guardsmen do it intentionally?
Was it an ambush or was it something else? Was
it caught in crossfire street crime?

Speaker 14 (19:48):
It is unclear at the moment.

Speaker 18 (19:51):
Reg with the Governor of West Virginia has put out
there on social media. This is Governor Patrick Morrissey. He says,
it's with great sorrow that we can confirm both members
of the West Virginia National Guard who were shot earlier
today in Washington, d C. Have passed away from their injuries.
These brave West Virginians lost their lives in the service
of their country. We are an ongoing contact with federal

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officials as the investigation continues.

Speaker 14 (20:16):
Our entire state.

Speaker 18 (20:17):
Grieves with their families, their loved ones, and the Guard community.
West Virginia will never forget their service or their sacrifice,
and we will demand full accountability for this horrific act.
I'm a bit speechless because it is just so awful,
and the timing isn't making it even worse.

Speaker 2 (20:37):
Of Okay, Denver, you got to get quicker on that.

Speaker 1 (20:41):
K turroitrish reporting what the Governor of West Virginia said.

Speaker 2 (20:44):
She he put a Twitter reversed that he reversed as
shortly thereafter and said they really didn't know the status.
I think now we know from the press conference.

Speaker 1 (20:51):
It is they're in critical condition. We have is it?

Speaker 2 (20:57):
Chris Paota from a former astant director of the si
FBI is with us, sir, thank you for joining us.
What would what would law enforcement be? What would law
enforcement be doing right now and going through and going
through their evolutions to get to the bottom of this.

Speaker 8 (21:15):
Right what you have is a very large law enforcement presence.

Speaker 11 (21:18):
So they're figuring out who's going to be the lead,
who's moving into support functions, who's going to be gathering
what information running down.

Speaker 8 (21:24):
Immediate investigative leads.

Speaker 11 (21:26):
They're also going to be looking to collect incidental surveillance footage,
any kind of information that would give them more context
and characterization of the situation and as far as you
know what the circumstances were at the time. They're also
probably looking right now to make sure they can determine
whether this was an isolated incident loan offender or is

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this something part of a more wide spread attack posture
across the nation.

Speaker 2 (21:57):
Yeah, Chris Cash said, hey, we're going to get the perpetrators,
and of course it just happened a few minutes ago.
They did say it was a targeted shooting, but the
DC Metro i think assistant director really said that this
looks like.

Speaker 1 (22:11):
A lone gunman.

Speaker 2 (22:12):
Is it too soon to jump to that conclusion, or
it doesn't look like it was a set, you know,
ambush from a roof. But Cash did say we're going
to get the perpetrators. What would that lead you to believe?

Speaker 11 (22:26):
Well, right now, it's too early to put a lot
of context around it. It just could have been a
random shooting by someone who is a disaffected person saw
two uniformed National guardsmen and fired upon them. I also
have seen instances of rhetoric on social media by certain
politicians indicating that they were saying that National Guard members

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could be firing upon American citizens. It could have caused
somebody to move from an ideological position to an actual
kinetic kinetic action. So they're looking at all of these
things right now. I would have to take a broader
view of it and say, we want to make sure
that it's an isolated incident before we call it one.
We want to make sure that we have all the

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suspects in custody before we say we do, and make
sure that we're not over selling our position on the
front end.

Speaker 2 (23:16):
Did you say, Chris, did you say you actually thought
you saw politicians a day say about this incident?

Speaker 1 (23:21):
That it might have been caused by somebody.

Speaker 2 (23:23):
Shooting to the crowd or is that just general, that's
something general? Yeah, is that something that generally you've seen
in the past.

Speaker 11 (23:30):
I just saw it earlier today where there was one
of the I guess the uh they calling them the six,
the people who put out to the message saying this
in the past few days about the possibility of National
Guard members taking such action against the American people. I'm
not saying it was related to today, but what I'm
saying is, in my previous life, if you have people

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that are on that edge of ideological views and action,
a statement like that could take someone who is mentally
unbalanced and move them to action versus just staying in
the ideological position.

Speaker 2 (24:06):
By the way, this is the seditious six that Chris
is talking about, and there's been a lot of activity
about that. In fact, Captain Mark Kelly has already come
out and said, how horrific this is. Jack, we have, Chris.
Is it pronounced PI hotel? How do you pronounce your
last night? Yes? That's great, Not close enough, Jack Pasoba.
I know you're trying to lend up some of the

(24:28):
guests for us, So you have any questions for it.

Speaker 13 (24:29):
Chris Well, Chris, I suppose the one thing that we're
going to have to start looking at really more now
is these and I spoke about this in the wake
of Charlie Kirk's assassination, These asymmetric assassinations whereby in you
can have self radicalized or radicalized in small groups, assassins

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who go often commit radical acts, and really looking at
ways to harden up these soft targets. Obviously, Charlie's campus
a tour was a soft target. Places like as we
know this was a metro station. We've been told for years,
ever since the days of nine to eleven, that these
were soft targets. But certainly the White House itself, you
think with all the security there and all the personnel

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and surveillance, that there'd be something more that could be done.
That being said, and ambush is an ambush, but certainly
it's something that I think that a lot of national
security is going to end. Safety personnel are going to
be focused on.

Speaker 8 (25:26):
Absolutely.

Speaker 11 (25:27):
What you're going to see is a change in the
National Guards posture for force protection.

Speaker 8 (25:32):
Right, They're going to start looking at how they protect.

Speaker 11 (25:34):
Their people, and they're going to start looking at their
standing rules of engagement. You're also going to see the
law enforcement community take up a bit more maybe of
an aggressive posture around certain places, people, places, and things
to make sure that any would be attackers are put
off by a show of force. One thing I'll add
to what you said is I find that a lot
of the movements right now are practicing what we used

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to call the leaderless resistance model.

Speaker 8 (26:01):
All of these folks are out.

Speaker 11 (26:02):
There, they're radicalized, they're looking for a reason to take action.
They're looking for the adoration of their so called tribe
and rhetoric. Any kind of irresponsible talk or agitation could
move these people to action. So it's just another way
of expanding the threat environment for our law enforcement and

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national defense personnel.

Speaker 1 (26:25):
Hey, Chris, can you stick with us? Appreciate it if
you could.

Speaker 2 (26:29):
Absolutely, Chris Phta who's a former assistant director of the FBI.

Speaker 1 (26:33):
Jack Pasobic is my wingman. We're going to get some
other people.

Speaker 2 (26:37):
I think I'm in com communication with Eric Prince, Brian Glenn.
We're going to get as much information about this as possible.

Speaker 1 (26:43):
Real tragedy today near the White House.

Speaker 2 (26:46):
Two National Guard Unit members I believe from West Virginia
were shot, just supposing critical conditions as much as we've
heard by a gunman that's referred to by DC metros
being a targeted a targeted event. We're gonna hopefully get
more information about that as the night progresses. Short commercial break,

(27:09):
you're in the war room. Back in a moment, Stephen k.

Speaker 1 (27:27):
Okay.

Speaker 17 (27:27):
Thanks.

Speaker 2 (27:28):
We're gonna get John Solomon up here momentarily. Brian Glenn
joins us Jack Pisoviaks working in a couple of contacts.
Make sure we get full information to everyone, Brian Glenn.
President Trump is at mar Lago, so thank god he's.

Speaker 1 (27:44):
Not near this today.

Speaker 2 (27:45):
Vice President advances, I think in Kentucky. Any updates of
what you know about White House staff or anyone having
any insights about this, sir.

Speaker 1 (27:55):
As a yes, good, good evening.

Speaker 19 (27:57):
As of now, No, I don't have any updates from
the White House other than the true social posts that
President pushed pushed out earlier. I was telling the producer
in the break yesterday I had a great conversation with
four National guardsmen from Mississippi out of Starbucks right about
a block away from where this incident happened.

Speaker 14 (28:18):
Today, they tell me they were going to be here
until March, and I.

Speaker 19 (28:21):
Asked them what has been the feedback from people on
the streets as they often are found picking up trash.
They just had a video of them picking up trash
just two days ago in front of Lofayette Park.

Speaker 14 (28:33):
There.

Speaker 19 (28:34):
They are excited to be in this city. They had
honored to serve our country and being our nation's capital.
So as soon as I heard about this shooting, I
instantly thought about these three young men that so bravely
want to serve our community and to see what happened now,
you know, I also sort of thinking about, well, is
this much of a large is the planet of a

(28:55):
larger attack? Should we see more of these lone wolfs
on the street around d C? And I know that
Pete has said that Announce said we're going to have
an additional five hundred National guardsmen around d C. And
I hope Steve that every single one of these men
and women that are walking these streets with the National
Guard have some type of firearm on them. A lot

(29:18):
of them don't, Steve, And luckily, from what I understand today,
that the two gentlemen engage in the shooting did have
some type of weapon on them. But I think it's
imperative that we put these men and women on the
streets of Washington, d C. To patrol these neighborhoods have
the ability to defend themselves.

Speaker 17 (29:36):
Very important.

Speaker 2 (29:37):
Well, this is get people on Capitol Hill that blinked
and didn't really have the presidents back about.

Speaker 1 (29:42):
The deployment of these troops.

Speaker 2 (29:43):
When you get tremendous blowback on this from all the rhinos,
right now, Jack and Mud come to you, Brian, hangon.
This is a typical response Jack, Jane Meyer, who's one
of the worst of the worst. Caitlin Collinson put something
out about the guardsman being shot. Jane Meyer comes in.
This is so tragic, so unnecessary. These poor guardsmen should
never have been deployed. I live in DC and watched

(30:05):
as they had virtually nothing to do but pick up trash.

Speaker 1 (30:08):
Is for political show and at what costs.

Speaker 2 (30:11):
The Left has never supported having the National Guard there
to back up local police and to backup ice age. Remember,
the Jane Myers of the world do not want anybody
to port it. The only way they're gonna win elections
is the illegal alien invasion. And of course, you know,
just like Montdamie one in New York City, and so
all they're doing is dumping on They're not talking about

(30:34):
the shooter. They're not talking about you know, these radical
leftists and folks that.

Speaker 1 (30:38):
Are taking this in their own hands.

Speaker 2 (30:41):
What they're doing is they're trashing the National Guard for
just being there picking up trash.

Speaker 1 (30:45):
Your thoughts, Jack Psobek.

Speaker 13 (30:47):
Yeah, Steve, I'll say what I said earlier today and
earlier in the week. No offense, But it's time to
let the men handle this.

Speaker 14 (30:57):
This idea that.

Speaker 13 (30:58):
Oh, you know, we don't like these raids and we
don't like you're scared of the uniforms. These same people
that were scared that President Trump was having tanks all
at the Army parade. Yeah, imagine an army parade for
their birthday, the two hundred and fiftieth that doesn't have
a tank. All right, it's cut me a break where
I'm sick of the overt feminization of our culture, the
overt feminization of America. You need rough men to commit

(31:23):
acts of roughness in order to keep people safe from
violent animals, the kind of violent animals that would shoot
up Charlie Kirk, that would shoot up a school, that
would shoot up National guardsmen. I'm sorry, lady, but that's
just the facts. And if you can't handle it, then
guess what. Maybe this line of business isn't for you.
Go work in a flower shop or something. That's perfectly fine,

(31:46):
but you have no business putting your opinion out there,
especially with two members of National Guard who are conducting
law enforcement, high profile presidence operations in front of the
White House, the people's house were just shot.

Speaker 14 (31:58):
She takes the side of the criminal.

Speaker 13 (32:01):
This is what they do, Steve, deny attacked and then
reverse victim and offender.

Speaker 14 (32:05):
It's called darvo.

Speaker 13 (32:06):
First they deny what happened, they attack the opposite side,
and they reverse victim and offender. The victim in her
case is the people of DC. The victim as the
people who are victimized. It's like slackin saying that she
was worried about the National guardsmen.

Speaker 14 (32:19):
We're going to be shooting up US citizens.

Speaker 13 (32:22):
And Gavin Newsom said recently that that deploying the National
Guard is an act of a dictator.

Speaker 14 (32:29):
Said it was an act of a dictator.

Speaker 13 (32:30):
And I remember Steve, in the wake of Charlie Kirk's murder,
we were told all we're going to tone down the rhetoric.
We're going to tone down the rhetoric. They didn't tone
it down, They toned it up. They ratcheted up against conservatives,
against President Trump, and against our national guardsmen and law enforcement.

Speaker 14 (32:45):
And what did conservatives do.

Speaker 13 (32:47):
Conservatives started attacking each other with the infighting and saying, no,
you can't have this.

Speaker 14 (32:51):
Guy on this podcast. You can't talk about that.

Speaker 13 (32:54):
And they're were worried about that from the people being
gunned down and the bodies being stacked in America because
of asymmetric civil warfare which is currently ongoing.

Speaker 14 (33:03):
Steve, I would also like to point out just.

Speaker 13 (33:06):
Here that as we're waiting for more confirmation on the description,
we also know, and I think it needs to be said,
the President Trump just signed that executive order on the
Muslim Brotherhood, and the Muslim Brotherhood are known for extreme
acts of violence adherence to their ideology or known for
extreme acts of violence. You had Alex Jones and Laura

(33:28):
Lumer on earlier today talking about that, and I think
as we describe all of the situation, we should also
point out that this does.

Speaker 14 (33:36):
Happen in the wake of the signing of d EO.

Speaker 2 (33:40):
We're going to get back to that. Got Jack Pisoviaks,
my wing man from Human Events Daily. Chris Pihota, form
Assistant director of the FBI, is good enough to join us.
Brian glen Our, White House correspondent, I want to bring
in John Solomon.

Speaker 1 (33:52):
John's joining us, I think by phone John.

Speaker 2 (33:56):
Earlier in the day, there was talk about this might
be an ambush. CBS News reported that they said it
was an ambush. Law enforcement that told them fifteen ten
to fifteen rounds. We then heard it was a targeted
shooting by DC Metro. It looks like the individual took
five in coming. Have you got any update from your sources, sir, Yeah.

Speaker 20 (34:20):
What we understand is it as this, as the assailant
was coming across seventeenth Street, turning onto H Street, he
just opened fire on the guardsmen. Some were able to
return fire. He's wounded, he's critically injured. The guardsmen are
critically injured. But it does look to be a surprise, unprovoked,
ambush style attack. They're literally they're walking down the street

(34:43):
and all of a sudden, this gentleman comes around the
corner and immediately opens fire. There's no provocation, according to
the law enforcement officials I've talked to, just pure hatred,
just opening gunfire and trying to wound these American heroes
in uniform that have been keeping our cap safe.

Speaker 14 (35:00):
So we don't know a lot.

Speaker 20 (35:02):
I want to point everybody back to something that I
think is really important. On Monday Show, we had Congressman
Glenn Growthman. He has played a very large role in
helping people understand the Biden Border christ It was he
who discovered tens of thousands of the border children, the
unaccompanied minors, have been lost track of by the Biden administration.
Some of them ended up in the hands of cartels

(35:22):
and traffickers because the government didn't keep a close eye
on them. He told me he is one hundred percent
certain at these six senators, what they were trying to
do in that video last week was to provoke people
into thinking that the National Guard's deployment to keep illegal
aliens off the ground, to keep criminals off the ground,

(35:44):
was illegal. That that's what they were trying to rile people.

Speaker 17 (35:46):
Up on them.

Speaker 20 (35:47):
And if it turns out that this gentleman's motive is
somehow related to that, it's going to be a tragedy.
And those six senators and others who have been provoking
and suggesting that what the National Guard is doing, like
you just mentioned Jane Mayer, is somehow unlawful, unrighteous. These
are the people that are provoking and angering people around
the country, creating a false error that somehow this is

(36:08):
an illegal or unrighteous effort to secure a city. And
so we won't know the motive for a while, but
I do think there is concern that the boiled water
that the left has done is in some ways put
the National Guard and others like Ice in grave danger.
And it's a tragedy that people who are elected in
office and hold the highest offices in the land don't

(36:31):
realize that their rhetoric contributes to a really unstable and
violent situation. Right now, we'll find out what this man's
motive is, but it's so funny on Monday or tragic,
I should say on Monday that Glenn Growthman was worried
that people would take from these six senators language that
the National Guard were somehow the bad people in this
and that's the tragedy. Even if it's not the motive

(36:52):
for the shooting, it shouldn't be the message Americans are
getting from their elected leaders.

Speaker 2 (36:57):
I would love if Denver right now, can go ahead
pull that from John from John Solomon's Monday Show.

Speaker 1 (37:03):
I want to play it, Solomon.

Speaker 2 (37:06):
The evolution, you know, the Jane Mayer's mock and the
National Guard about picking up trash. There's been the station
the evolution of this one from when President Trump first
did it. It was pressure from the left, but you
had people on Capitol Hill just weren't prepared to support
President Trump talking because the National Guard from when they
first came and had such a dramatic impact on crime.

(37:28):
As you remember, in the first couple of weeks, there
has been a bunch of people text me now saying
a lot of the National Guard even carry weapons, don't
have AMMO in them. And of course obviously now some
of the National Guard do not carry weapons.

Speaker 1 (37:40):
How did that happen?

Speaker 2 (37:42):
Who did not have the President's back in this deployment
of the National Guard for the safety and security of
the capital.

Speaker 20 (37:49):
Sir, Yeah, Listen, if you're trying to secure a capital
where gun violence is frequent and regularly, you need to
be armed, right, And we know that. And I think
that if any guards and were not armed, pairs of
these guardsmen had at least small arms on them because
they were able to return fire, or some in the
crowd were able to a son in the group. I
think they usually travel in groups of form. Someone was

(38:10):
able to get several shots off and wound this assailant.
But we'll need to understand who in that group had
weapons who did not. But you can't be a law
enforcement official in the twenty first century in a city
like Washington, d C. Where gun crime is high, where
the gangs roam and have rome freely, though they've been
rained in quite a bit the last few weeks, and
not be armed. You got to be on equal firepower

(38:33):
with the bad guys. And so we'll get into that.
I've seen a lot of the guardsmen armed when I've
engaged them. I've had some great conversations. I met a
couple on h Street right where this happened just about
a week ago, two weeks ago. I bought them some
coffee and it just good people. And they're proud to
be defending their country, proud to be making their capital
a little safer. They see their work is righteous, and

(38:57):
they see the critics as somehow just silly. They don't
appreciate what these men and women are doing. And I
think at the end of the day, if any of
them are unarmed and they're out in the street, that's
got to change, because anyone is a target the day.
That is a sad, sad thing. We learned that tragically
with Charlie and we're learning it again tragically today here
on a night a need when we should be celebrating holiday,

(39:21):
we're mourning that they're a bewarning of these two National guardsmens.

Speaker 1 (39:25):
And hopefully they're in critical condition, hopefully pull through. John.

Speaker 2 (39:30):
There's a lot of you know, the people on the
left are even being as aggressive right now.

Speaker 1 (39:35):
They never should have been deployed. This is all a
power play by a.

Speaker 2 (39:38):
Dictator, this instigation of this constantly by the left wing politicians.
Do you see a reaction coming with President Trump? Is
he finally going to say I've had enough of this, sir?

Speaker 20 (39:52):
He's been pretty tough the last several months, and he
immediately swats down Other presidents would have allowed the senators
to go on. Answered. He didn't let that go on. Answered.
He immediately called it what he believed it was, which
was sedition, and he has ordered investigations of them. He
is countering at every step this narrative because he knows
any moment you stay silent, an inch has taken off

(40:14):
of the debate line, and the left keeps surging in.
And so I've said this many times. What the left
is engaged in is a war on truth. They are
trying to eliminate truths. They try to make the bad
guys the good guys, the good guys the bad guys.
They try to make the abnormal normal. They want to
put men on women's podium and steal their medals after
an athletic competition. And the reason they're doing it, the

(40:36):
reason they're waging this war, and I've talked to many
of the activists on the front lines, is they ultimately
want to eradicate the ultimate truth upon which this country
is built, and that is that our crator and doubt
us with certain inaliable rights, and they don't want them.
They don't want that to be the truth anymore. So
as they destroy truth, they're marching towards eradicating that final truth,
that our liberties come from God and can't be taken

(40:58):
from government. I said this a few times, it's speeches,
and my friends.

Speaker 8 (41:01):
And I left mocked me.

Speaker 20 (41:02):
And then Tim Kane came out and set it out loud. Yeah,
but no, the government gives you right. You don't get
him from anywhere else, to get them from our governor government.
That is the truth that's under this truth on war.
And there's war on truth. And I think those of
us who have the bully pulpit or the bullhorn every day,
we have to keep countering the war on truth. We

(41:24):
have to keep reminding people that the good guys are
the National Guardsman, not the guy who fired unprovoked on them.
That the good guys are the ice agents. They're not
running up grannies and taking kids out of school, They're
getting gang bangers and drug traffickers off the street. We
have to counter it every step of every day because
right now it's an information war designed to eradicate the

(41:45):
many truths that this country is built on.

Speaker 2 (41:49):
John, before I let you go, I just wanted to.
And we're going to get it booted up as soon
as we can. But Reverend Al Sharpton was on MSNBC
just moments ago, and he is pretty adamant. Sharpton blames
the President Trump for National guardsmen being shot in DC.
Quote as Nicole Wallace watches, looks on with tears. She

(42:09):
goes the two people that are fighting for their lives
guardsmen that this president put Darren Harm's way.

Speaker 1 (42:16):
Your thoughts, sir, it's ludicrous.

Speaker 20 (42:20):
The president did something to make the city safer. Those guardsmen,
I know because that talks so many of my bottom
coffee several times on the streets. They're proud to be
doing there. They're not. They don't feel forced and compelled there.
I mean, they obviously know they've been ordered there, but
they don't feel that way. They feel like this is
a righteous job. And someone like Al Sharpton and Nicole Wallace,
who've imposed so many lies on the American people over

(42:43):
the many years, they're doing a disservice to those many
wom They don't even understand those men and women. They
don't know what makes them tick. They don't know the
patriotism that they feel. And I've never seen Al Sharpton
or Nicole Wallace pribe for any of the people who
are gunned down day in and day out, every single
day on the streets in Washington, d C. They didn't
shed it here then, and the body toll is enormous

(43:06):
in DC. People who are wounded and shot in this unlawful,
lawless sort of society that the DC government created in
the nation's capital. They weren't crying then. They only cry
when it's convenient to make a case against Donald Trump.
The American people are way smarter than Al Sharpton and
Nicole Wallace Leverby. They don't view it this way. And
by the way, the men and women in the fatigues

(43:26):
that I grow walk by every day, they don't feel
compelled by Donald Trump or that this is a miserable job,
but that they've been put in a wrong place. They
think they're in the right place at the right time,
doing the right thing. And MSNBC should maybe wake up
and spend a few days on the street and talk
to these amazing guardsmen. They'd find an extraordinarily different sentiment.

Speaker 2 (43:45):
John, thank you for calling in. If you have anything else,
let us know. We want to get your back up.
John Solomon. What's your John, just the news and you
in your Twitter hand.

Speaker 20 (43:54):
Away Solomon reports, Yeah, Jay Solomon reports on all social platforms.

Speaker 1 (43:59):
Thank you, brotherciate you, thank you. Here's here's like to do.

Speaker 2 (44:03):
Jack Pisoba's got a reporter in the streets, is going
to join someone I'd like to play do we have
the Al Sharpton?

Speaker 1 (44:09):
Can I play this right now? It's going to play
Al Sharpton.

Speaker 21 (44:13):
Two people fighting for their lives, guardsmen that this president
put there, and as I said, I was one that
was very vocal against that, But I'm not going to
belittle the fact that their lives at stay to get
into a back and forth with the President. I can
say that if I'm a member of their families. I
don't want to hear what he's saying about Honduras right now.

Speaker 17 (44:34):
I want to.

Speaker 21 (44:35):
Pray that these two guardsmen who were ordered there and
who we're being told by the mayor was ambush, make
it through. And all of this about sending in five
hundred people, what does that have to do with where
we are now? I think that we've got to those
of us that have been opposed to the president's policy
show that we are not going to Moorrawy match him

(44:56):
by going down to a level of insensitivity. There are
two people fighting for their lives on Thanksgiving, and it
just seems ironic to me. People that pardon people assaulting
police officers are now talking about how they're going to
uphold and look up to the people in the building.
People in that building will beat January sixth, Jack.

Speaker 2 (45:20):
You see MSNBC and Ouz glory is Jack pisoviek to him?

Speaker 1 (45:24):
Back up? We got Jack?

Speaker 2 (45:27):
Yeah, okay, Hey Jack, I think you've got I think
we've got with a lineman up, you want to take it.

Speaker 14 (45:34):
Yeah, let's do it. So with lineman.

Speaker 13 (45:36):
You're down there at the White House quite a bit.
You're covering it for border Hawk News. You were there
on the scene moments after. Tell us what you saw,
what were the sites and sounds, and talk to us
how soon after you arrived.

Speaker 12 (45:49):
Good to do with you guys tonight, and thank you.
We got here a few minutes after the situation kind
of unfolded. Behind me here is Farragut Square. We're a
block or two from the White House here, and we
just finished up a press conference with Mayor of Washington,
Mayor Bowser, FBI Director Cash Hotel, and other officials, and
they basically stated what we've heard so far. Two National

(46:11):
guardsmen have been shot are in critical condition at two
different hospitals. The suspect is also in critical condition. There
is one suspect at this time that did not release
any further details. About it basically going forwards. They're going
to be investigating this to the fullest extent.

Speaker 8 (46:26):
Of the law.

Speaker 12 (46:27):
I have a quote here from the DC Police Union,
the shooting of two National guardsmen in DC is a
despictable act. Our homicide detectives will ensure that whoever is
perpetrated this violence is prosecuted to the fullest extent of
the law. And just this area, Jack, as you know,
is very close to the White House. What we were
told was these National guardsmen, who move around in small
groups four to six sometimes two, were basically ambushed. The

(46:50):
shooter came around a corner, open fire right away, and
what appears to be a very targeted attack on the
National Guard here in Washington.

Speaker 13 (46:59):
Are you now, we know there's been some photos that
have gone around online about a potential shooter.

Speaker 14 (47:05):
Are you able to confirm any of that. I'm sure
you've seen them.

Speaker 13 (47:08):
Did you get a chance to see the suspected shooter
at all as they were loading him in? Any information
on description regarding this third individual who was shot at
purportedly the shooter.

Speaker 12 (47:20):
I can't confirm the photos that are going around, but
oftentimes Twitter is ahead of the officials in some ways.
They did not confirm the photos during the press conference,
so we don't have more information about the suspect, but
we do know as appears to be one suspect at
this time.

Speaker 14 (47:37):
Once as I see, hey, hey with a question.

Speaker 2 (47:41):
There was an earlier report this might be an ambush.

Speaker 1 (47:45):
The DC Metro did say it was targeted.

Speaker 2 (47:48):
Do you have any other details when they say targeted,
he just came around the corner. As soon as he
saw the National Guard he unloaded. Do we have any
other backup or description about when they say it was
a targeted shooting?

Speaker 1 (48:00):
What that means?

Speaker 12 (48:02):
See that burbage denotes I think that they didn't see
the assailant coming, so more of an ambush.

Speaker 8 (48:08):
What we were told was.

Speaker 12 (48:08):
There garsmen were going around a corner and then the
assailant came forwards and open fire. Targeted meaning that he's
going after the National guardsmen themselves. This is not a
you know, stopping another cry that does happen here in
d C or another incident. It sounds like he was
going after or she was going after the National guardsman

(48:29):
in this attack, and you see them all over the place,
as both of you know, guardsmen are walking around this
part of DC in groups. There are many, many of them,
and there should be more coming in according to what
the administration is saying, five hundred more should be on
the ground. But targeted in the sense of going after
the guardsmen and ambush in the sense that they did
not know it was coming.

Speaker 1 (48:50):
Hey, w can you hang on second? Stick with us?

Speaker 2 (48:52):
I want to go to Chris pi Hota, a former
assistant director of the FBI.

Speaker 1 (48:57):
Chris, the same question to you. Any thoughts on this said?

Speaker 2 (49:00):
What where they're calling a targeted, targeted shooting or a
targeted event?

Speaker 19 (49:06):
Here?

Speaker 11 (49:07):
Again hard to say, Steve, Here's what I would be
looking at right now. The National Guard folks, they generally
will walk on a routine, patterned patrol. This individual could
have watched them for a few days, could have known
when they were going to be coming around, could have
been lying in wait for them, and then open fire.

(49:29):
It's hard to tell right now what the word targeted means.
And I think what they're saying is is that maybe
this individual specifically opened fire on the National Guard folks,
and it wasn't a spray of bullets all around the area.
It was a targeted, aimed firing at the uniform personnel.

Speaker 2 (49:55):
Hey with When you said the shooters in critical condition?
Was that said at the was that said at the
press conference? Did the DC Metro mention that I don't
remember Cash saying that I know the two guardsmen are critical,
but you also picked up that the shooter himself, the
assailant himself, is in critical condition.

Speaker 12 (50:14):
That is correct. I believe the White House has also
stated that President Trump has a tweet that he posted
it looks like on Truth's social and then back over
to his main account where he says is also severely wounded.
So I believe they're indicating that the shooter was injured
of some capacity during this escalation. I did hear reports
of other guardsmen getting involved. Metro police were on the

(50:37):
scene very quickly. I wasn't sure how he was injured
at this time, but it does appear that he has
suffered some injury.

Speaker 1 (50:44):
When can you hang with us?

Speaker 2 (50:46):
We're going to take a short commercial break at the
top of the hour to reset here.

Speaker 1 (50:50):
I've got Jack, butsobic with us.

Speaker 2 (50:52):
Jack as the host of Human Events Daily or two
o'clock show and often the wingman for the team out
at Turning Point. I used to do crimes with Charlie
Kirk every week. Chris pi Hotel, former assistant director of
the FBI, has been kind enough to join us for
trying to get Eric Prince on. Brian Glenn is going
to reboot and be back up in a moment.

Speaker 1 (51:13):
Of course.

Speaker 2 (51:14):
We have wid Lyman is the border Hawks reporting Borderhawks news?

Speaker 1 (51:19):
Is that what your network is? Your channel?

Speaker 12 (51:23):
Thank you?

Speaker 8 (51:23):
Singular?

Speaker 12 (51:24):
Borderhawk dot news is the website, and then border hawk
news on Twitter. But just a singular, although there are
many border Hawks.

Speaker 8 (51:30):
I'll get that.

Speaker 1 (51:32):
But here the hawk of the hawks, we stick around
with us.

Speaker 2 (51:36):
A big tragedy today, two National guardsmen gunned down in
a targeted shooting. According to DC Metro and Cash Mattel,
the head of the FBI.

Speaker 1 (51:45):
We're gonna take a short commercial break.

Speaker 2 (51:47):
We're gonna roll into the six o'clock hour here on
Real America's voice.

Speaker 1 (51:51):
Be back in a moment. This is the primal scream

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of a dying regime.

Speaker 2 (52:29):
Pray for our enemies, because we're going to medieval on
these people here.

Speaker 1 (52:34):
I's not got a free shot. All these networks lying
about the people. The people have had a belly full
of it. I know you don't like hearing that.

Speaker 2 (52:41):
I know you tried to do everything in the world
to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.

Speaker 1 (52:44):
It's going to happen.

Speaker 14 (52:45):
And where do people like that go to share the
big line?

Speaker 17 (52:49):
Mega media?

Speaker 14 (52:50):
I wish in my soul, I wish that any of
these people had a conscience.

Speaker 1 (52:55):
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?

Speaker 8 (53:00):
Answer is to save my country.

Speaker 17 (53:02):
This country will be saved. Here's your host, Stephen k. Ba.

Speaker 2 (53:13):
Okay, what we want to thank John Solomon, the team.
We're here in the studio, so we will take the
six o'clock hour. We have Chris pat pie Hotel, former
assistant and director of the FBI is with us. The
border Hawk is with us. He's in the streets near
the shooting itself. Of course Jack Pisovic's with us. What
I'd like to do right now for the audience are

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just coming into the show, is I want to play there?
There was a very short press aveil by the director
of the FBI, by Mayor Bowser, by the acting assistant
of DC Metro. Let's go ahead and play that and
I'll get commentary from the team.

Speaker 1 (53:52):
Let's go and let it rip.

Speaker 3 (53:58):
Every Ready, great, good, afternoon, everybody. My name is Cashptel,
FBI Director. We're here to brief you on the tragic
events that happened today at approximately two to fifteen local
time in Washington, DC, where two of our brave members
of the National Guard and the Department of War were
brazenly attacked in a horrendous act of violence. They were shot.

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They're in critical condition, as you can see behind me.
We have assembled the full force of both the federal
and state and local law enforcement agencies to bring bar
all of our resources to make sure we find the
perpetrators responsible for this heinous act and make no mistake,
they will be brought to justice. Since this is an
assault on a federal law enforcement officer, this will be

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treated at the federal level as an assault on a
fed law enforcement officer. The FBI will lead out on
that mission with our interagency partners to include the Department
of Homeland Security Secret Service ATFDA, and we're thankful for
the Mayor's assistance in this matter. The Metropolitan Police Department
and their skills in investigating homicides and gun shootings in

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this city is exceptional. We will work together collaboratively because
this is a matter of national security because it's a
matter of pride. President Trump has been informed. We've been
in contact with the White House. We will shortchange the
American public with no resources to make sure we find
in safeguard our nation's capital right here in Washington, DC

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and bring anyone responsible for this heinous act of violence
to justice. I would lastly like to add to the
American public in the world, please send your prayers to
those brave warriors who are in critical condition and their families.
They are here serving our country. They are here protecting
everyday Americans and citizens around the world in our nation's capital.

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They are the heroes of this day, and we must
remember them on this day and every day, and their
families and the sacrifice.

Speaker 5 (55:50):
They have made.

Speaker 3 (55:51):
I will now turn it over to Chief Geral of
the Metropolitan Police Department.

Speaker 8 (55:54):
Thank you, good afternoon everyone.

Speaker 4 (55:59):
My name is Jeff care On, the Executive Assistant Chief
here at the Metropolitan Police Department. At approximately two fifteen
this afternoon, members of the DC National Guard were on
high visibility controls in the area of seventeenth and I
Street Northwest when a suspect came around the corner, raised
his arm with a firearm and discharged at the National
Guard members. The National Guard members, there were other members

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that were in the area. They were able to, after
some back and forth, able to subdue the individual and
bring them in the custody within moments. Members of law
enforcement in the area were also able to assist and
bring that individual into the custody. At this time, as
the Director mentioned, the National Guard members are being treated
at a local hospital. DC Fire and EMS responded to
the scene to provide first aid for those individuals and

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transport them to a local hospital. The suspect in this
case was also transported for treatment at a local hospital.

Speaker 5 (56:52):
Mayor, I'm Muriel Bowser. I'm the mayor of Washington, d C.

Speaker 6 (56:57):
And I too want to send my thoughts and prayers
to the families of the guardsmen and to the guardsmen
who are in critical condition in a local hospital. I
am joined by members and leadership from the DC National Guard,
from the West Virginia National Guard, United States Secret Service,

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Deputy Mayrapilla Fire Chief Donnelley, and Metro's general manager Randy Clark,
and we join with the FBI Director in ensuring that
MPD investigates the US Attorney prosecutes this case.

Speaker 5 (57:38):
To the fullest extent of the law.

Speaker 6 (57:40):
I've had the opportunity to breathe US Attorney General Pambondi,
who was speaking to the President when I called, as
well as the United States Attorney Pierro who assured me
that this case will have her offices complete attention.

Speaker 5 (58:00):
Is there any other suspect?

Speaker 22 (58:03):
Chief?

Speaker 8 (58:03):
Sure?

Speaker 12 (58:04):
So?

Speaker 4 (58:04):
Now at this time there was no indication there was
any other suspect. That one suspect that was involved in
this incident. They were shot during the interaction and they
were transports to the hospital for treatment.

Speaker 5 (58:13):
Mayor does this validate the need for the initial guard
here in DC?

Speaker 6 (58:18):
What we know, Andrea, is that this is a target
at shooting one individual who appear to target these guardsmen.
That individual has been taken into custody.

Speaker 9 (58:28):
Man, can you can ask us a mode of details
on the condition of the two national guards and whether
or not anyone else's into And a.

Speaker 10 (58:37):
Quick question followed for the FBI. Do I think you
said we'll make sure we find the perpetrators for this act?
So just to clarify the person, believe the responsible is
in custody and there are no other suspects.

Speaker 4 (58:50):
Sure, so, I think I can start out again, Chief
Carol from MPD. So both the individuals, the Guard members,
they are in critical into condition at local hospital this
time being treated. At this point, we have no other suspects.
We have reviewed video from the area. It appears, like
I said, to be a lone gunmen that raised the
firearm and ambushed these members of the National Guard, and
he was quickly taken into custody by other National Guard
members and law enforcement members.

Speaker 8 (59:10):
Any motives you know.

Speaker 4 (59:13):
At this time, obviously we're very in the priminary stages
of investigations. You know, there's a lot of things, a
lot of agents that are here from various federal agencies,
law enforcement agencies. We have the full power of the
FBI and or federal partners here in the task force.
So we're looking at all those different aspects, but we
don't have any motives.

Speaker 2 (59:27):
Arms.

Speaker 4 (59:28):
The National art guardsmen that were shot, I'm told they
were armed at this time. That's part of the pulminary investigation.

Speaker 8 (59:36):
How was that content.

Speaker 4 (59:39):
Sure, so howa Suskal was apprehended. As I said, the
individual at suspect came around the corner. He immediately started
firing a firearm at the two National Guard members. So
at that time. There were other National Guard members that
were in the area. They heard the gunfire. They actually
were able to intervene and to kind of hold down
the suspect after he had been shot on the ground,
so law enforcement got there within moments.

Speaker 5 (01:00:00):
He was shot by the National Authority.

Speaker 4 (01:00:02):
At this point, we're still investigating exactly who shot the
Individual's not clear at.

Speaker 5 (01:00:06):
This time in the area.

Speaker 4 (01:00:09):
We don't know kind of weapon.

Speaker 8 (01:00:10):
There was DC police.

Speaker 4 (01:00:11):
It happened right in front of the Metro, although there
is no indication that the perpetrator was on the Metro,
So there's a Metro transit police in the area and
obviously being on seventeenth Street by the White House uniformed
the Vision Secret Service where the immediate area as well,
and a weapon the alleged we do not know this time.
We're going to are and has been able to question
the suspectories.

Speaker 5 (01:00:32):
His conditions so severe that you haven't been.

Speaker 4 (01:00:34):
Without publication sure, and so as I said, we're very
preliminary in the investigation, so we're looking into all aspects
of who the individual is, his connections. At this time,
he's still in the hospital receiving treatment, and I would
just like to hang on.

Speaker 3 (01:00:44):
I would just like to add the reason.

Speaker 20 (01:00:46):
That this.

Speaker 2 (01:00:48):
Chris, I want to ask you because you've been with
the FBI for many decades. The headline breaking news from NBC.
Authority is still working to identify the shooter. Now we
understand that the shooter was not cooperating with authorities, But
Tom Winners reporting authorities believe they're close to identifying the
man they believe is responsible for today's targeted attack. To

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senior law enforcement officials briefed on the investigation, say, how
would the FBI go if the guy's not cooperating, he's
taking a couple of slugs.

Speaker 1 (01:01:21):
How would the FBI go about that?

Speaker 11 (01:01:24):
Well, you could take his fingerprints first of all, make
sure he's not in any of our biometric databases. You'd
also be able to do facial recognition, see if he
comes up in any social media or Internet channels. And there
are other court ordered activities that the FBI could do
to match identity.

Speaker 1 (01:01:43):
So they would start that right away.

Speaker 2 (01:01:44):
If the guy's not cooperating, and that's not going to
that's only going to slow him down so much. And
trying to identify the shooter and any type of networks
or any type of relationships he has, going to social media.

Speaker 1 (01:01:55):
All of that.

Speaker 11 (01:01:56):
That's correct, They're going to start doing that immediately. If
he is uncoopera, meaning he won't keep his own biographic
information for them to check, they'll start running other ways
to validate his identity. And again, as you said, to
see if he has a network of friends around him,
that warrant investigation.

Speaker 2 (01:02:15):
If if someone was not cooperating, but you had the
ability to take fingerprints, you do the facial recognition other
technical aspects the FBI had. How long would that take
the FBI? Is that a matter of minutes? Is it
thirty minutes?

Speaker 1 (01:02:29):
An hour? How long?

Speaker 2 (01:02:31):
How we keep hearing about Palenteer and all these databases,
how sophisticated these databases, and how accessible they are to
agents in a hospital with a guy that's probably an ICU.

Speaker 11 (01:02:44):
Well, what you have right now, I hate to say,
a willing participant. He is unconscious, right He may not
be fully conscious, He may be under the influence of
pain medication, or he may be just coming out of
an operation. What they can do is access all available
FBI National asset databases. The FBI maintained all of the

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National Criminal Information Center data. They maintain all the biometric
information for the FBI, and they also have access to
other I would just say repositories of information that they
can check in their own internal records as well as
across the law enforcement and intelligence communities.

Speaker 2 (01:03:28):
Jack Pasobic, Chris, thanks just saying with us Pasobic, any
updates on what you're hearing. I know there's a lot
of rumors going around, a ton of information.

Speaker 1 (01:03:37):
I don't know if you had a chance to filter it,
were you hearing anything else?

Speaker 13 (01:03:41):
Well, Steve, of course, we are digging in more on
this individual. As you mentioned before, already no id e
Ben made, but I do know from contact within the
government that that's exactly what they're doing right now. They're
running his facial identification trying to see if you can
match in not only for the law enforcement databases, but

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also with recent arrivals at points of entry airports to
the United States international travel, trying to see if any
of his photo was taken at any aircraft or airport
in recent times, see if it matches using that facial
recognition database through the Department of Homeland Security. So, of
course there's a lot that's coming in. Still hearing word

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on the National guardsmen that they're not out of the
woods yet and that we do want to keep everyone
praying for them. The other piece that I'm hearing aside
from that is that tonight at eight pm Eastern, there's
going to be a group of people that are gathering
at the.

Speaker 14 (01:04:37):
National Mall calling for a candlelight vigil. So if anyone
wants to reach.

Speaker 13 (01:04:41):
Out to that, it's the National Ball excuse me, the
Washington Monument on the National Ball. So the Washington Monument
eight pm is where people are gathering for a candlelight vigil.

Speaker 1 (01:04:50):
Oka eight pm.

Speaker 2 (01:04:51):
That is right if you at the White House just
so right down you see the rise and you see
the Washington Monment hard to miss. We're going to take
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Speaker 1 (01:05:13):
We're going to come back. Border Hawk is down there right.

Speaker 2 (01:05:17):
Near the scene of the shooting where we get him
to put it in context of how actually close this was.
To the White House. I want to thank everybody's helping
us with the broadcast so far, and all the information
is coming in. We're trying to glean right now what's
going on with the two heroes, the two National guardsmen
that were shot, also with the perpetrator.

Speaker 1 (01:05:37):
A look, say, if the FBI is with a non.

Speaker 2 (01:05:42):
A witness who is not working with the FBI, coming
to some conclusion about who this is.

Speaker 1 (01:05:47):
I'm sure we're here about that. Hopefully not too long.

Speaker 2 (01:05:50):
Short commercial break, we're going to return to this horrific
tragedy right.

Speaker 1 (01:05:55):
Near the White House today in Washington, d C. Back
in a moment, thank you, says already.

Speaker 17 (01:06:05):
You win in lost show, right Merrick, he's your host.
Stephen k back.

Speaker 2 (01:06:29):
Wid Lineman the Border Hawk joins us with, first of all,
print in perspective, how how close would this all occur.

Speaker 1 (01:06:37):
To the White House?

Speaker 2 (01:06:38):
You're actually on the scene, how how uh and what
proximity are we to the actual White House itself?

Speaker 12 (01:06:46):
So this area right here is where the yellow tape starts.
You can kind of see it behind me. And then
if you go up this road about two blocks you're
going to get to the north part of the White
House there, so we're very close. It looks like the
main site is going to be sort of over my
left shoulder. That's where the main large breach of the
federal officials are conducting their operation and that is where

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it is reported where it occurs. So looking at maybe
a block or two at most from Lafayette Park just
north on the side of the White House there, So
very very close. I mean anything in Washington is going
to be pretty close to the White House itself is
not a very large area so to speak, but we'll
look at just a few blocks away.

Speaker 2 (01:07:28):
We have some very bad news with I want to
report on good Jack and Christen here that the NBC
News is reporting from officials who are working in this
government official working this that both the National guardsmen were
shot in the head. Do you have any any other
updates on that.

Speaker 12 (01:07:48):
That's pretty consistent with some of the preliminary, unconfirmed photos
that we've seen bandages on the head National guardsment being
in critical condition. It also lines up with a close
ambush style attack. You know, the assailant, you know, allegedly
pulled the firearm out and opened at a very close distance,
so you know, it sounds like he was targeting these

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National guardsmen with the intent of assassination.

Speaker 2 (01:08:14):
Chris, thanks with hang on Chris, any thoughts on that
they're reporting now that both National guardsmen were both shot
in the head.

Speaker 1 (01:08:22):
Any thoughts on.

Speaker 11 (01:08:23):
That, Well, First of all, I'm glad they're still in
critical condition and they're not to cease from their injuries.

Speaker 8 (01:08:29):
Second of all, if.

Speaker 11 (01:08:32):
You have headshots on both of these National Guard personnel,
I would think that it makes it more of a
likely targeted.

Speaker 8 (01:08:39):
Attack where this person.

Speaker 11 (01:08:41):
May have caught them walking away, shot them from behind
and was able to get two or three clean shots
off before they reacted. So it makes it it lends
credence to the use of the word targeted. I would
imagine after you see the photos. I haven't seen the photos,
but you can see maybe if they were fired upon

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from behind, that would be most logical versus a face
to face attack where he drew a weapon and fired
on them.

Speaker 2 (01:09:09):
It would also I think when it leads you to
in a chaotic situation where your adrenaline's up, that this
guy must have not just known.

Speaker 1 (01:09:17):
What he was doing, but been a pretty good shot.

Speaker 11 (01:09:21):
Absolutely, if you're training rounds, Definitely he must have been
fairly proficient with a firearm. But again, if he caught
them walking away from behind, still pretty we handled the
firearm fairly well because of adrenaline and the situation at hand.
So either way, he was this individual, I use the
word he could I assumed it's it's a male. But

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this individual obviously knew how to handle a firearm.

Speaker 2 (01:09:48):
Chris also, and this is unfortunate, but the DC hospitals,
particularly the ones in the Capital Complex around there, know
a thing or two about handling gunshot. I mean, so
these two brave National guardsmen shot in the head at
relatively close range.

Speaker 1 (01:10:07):
Your point is, hey, you're.

Speaker 2 (01:10:08):
Glad the reports still are there in critical condition. But
if you had to go to if you had to
be in a place being in DC, given the unfortunate
high volume of crime in the city, and particularly violent crime,
you're going into emergency rooms that know what they're doing.

Speaker 8 (01:10:25):
Absolutely.

Speaker 11 (01:10:25):
I'm sure they have unfortunately a lot of practice in
the high trauma treatment areas, and they get a lot
of practice with gunshot wounds unfortunately. So yes, those two
guardsmen were I'm sure they're in good hands.

Speaker 1 (01:10:40):
Jack.

Speaker 2 (01:10:42):
Some of the information you were getting earlier would would
fall in line with knowing that the two guardsmen were
shot a relatively close range in the head that NBC
News is reporting, would it not, Sir.

Speaker 14 (01:10:55):
Steve.

Speaker 13 (01:10:55):
One of the first things that we heard from sources
close to the White House, the phrase point blank range
was the first thing that anyone had said to me
that basically walked up shot in point blank range. Some
of the first images that we saw across X showed
those bandages to the side of the head, showed blood
on the ground, and in which case, you know, there's

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a lot of questions about what exactly the situation is
if they're in critical condition. And it's unfortunate to say this,
but this is what we also saw with some of
those victims in Minneapolis, the victims at that Catholic school,
those little children of the shooter there, many of which
were also shot in the head, and then there were
questions as to whether or not they would live.

Speaker 14 (01:11:39):
Now, amazingly and miraculously, two of.

Speaker 13 (01:11:42):
The little girls who had been shot in the head
were actually able to be saved in that situation. But
of course that it can only occur if there is
not permanent damage to the brain, to the brain stem,
the central nervous system, like with Charlie Kirk, so a
lot of questions as to what exactly the status was.
But we have seen people survive headshots in the recent past.

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Medical progress has come very far, So I'm sure everyone
is going to be praying for these guardsmen right now
as they're fighting for their lives.

Speaker 2 (01:12:12):
No, that's what I'm saying, and all this tragedy. If
you had to be shot and head of headwond the
trauma divisions of these hustles. Given the violent violence, violent
crimes in our violent capital. With Lynman, it would seem
to me that an individual that is a block or
so from the actual White House itself, as highly patrolled

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as that is, you have the National Guard on patrol
that would walk up with a target, but get to
basically point blank range and shoot two National guardsmen in
the head.

Speaker 1 (01:12:46):
The calculus they must have gone through is that I
may not make it out of here.

Speaker 2 (01:12:49):
I mean, this is probably as close to a suicide
mission as you could get.

Speaker 12 (01:12:54):
Sir, I'm not sure that there's a worse place to
try this level of violence. I mean, you're looking at
dozens of different kinds of law enforcement in this area,
very highly patrolled. You heard the Metropolitan chief there mentioned
the high visibility patrol, which is what we see a
great deal in this area and towards the monuments. You know,

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this is obviously one of the worst places to do that,
and you know.

Speaker 8 (01:13:19):
We are grateful.

Speaker 12 (01:13:20):
As a gentleman mentioned that the National Guardsmen are fighting,
but that person knew that he would have an immediate,
very large response, Secret Service, FBI, US marshalls. You have
ICE and HSI agents all over DC now also patrolling.
Not to mention the National Guardsmen, which was reported that
they were armed. They did not start out armed, though

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I will say that that was an early adjustment that
they added carrying their handgun, their service pistol. I did
not start out that way though that came in a
little bit later.

Speaker 16 (01:13:50):
So, yeah, this is one of the.

Speaker 12 (01:13:51):
Worst places to commit any of these crimes. But as
Jack pointed out, there's plenty of shootings in DC in general.
I mean, this is a.

Speaker 14 (01:13:59):
Very violent city.

Speaker 12 (01:14:00):
Even with President Trump's efforts, we're still seeing a great
deal of violence. We've done right along with Metro Police Department.
We have done in that with all sorts of law enforcement,
and they're telling us the same thing that DC does
have a crime problem. Just a few weeks ago we
had back to back weekends of mass shootings. Three or
or seven people were shot in one weekend. So I

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mean we're still looking at a lot of violence. So
people here are I think brazen despite the massive amounts
of law enforcement that does patrol very openly.

Speaker 1 (01:14:31):
Chris your thoughts too.

Speaker 2 (01:14:33):
I mean, if you're going to do this, and maybe
even in case the place or case this, you have
to assume it's going to be low probability that you
the shooter is.

Speaker 1 (01:14:41):
Going to make it out alive. Does that change your idea?

Speaker 2 (01:14:44):
But the profile of this, and maybe it's not a
it's not in the moment, it's not emotions is not
on a whim. But somebody is pretty focused on sending
a message here knowing that in all likelihood they're not
going to make it out alive.

Speaker 8 (01:14:58):
There could be two things.

Speaker 11 (01:14:59):
One again mentally unbalanced, couldn't weigh the consequences and the
dire circumstances that they were in.

Speaker 8 (01:15:07):
Two that they had already.

Speaker 11 (01:15:11):
Just resigned themselves to the fact that they were going
to sacrifice themselves for their cause or for their ideology,
and if they didn't make it out of this confrontation.

Speaker 8 (01:15:21):
They had already made peace with that.

Speaker 11 (01:15:23):
In my opinion, it's one of those two scenarios you're
dealing with.

Speaker 2 (01:15:28):
With real quick before we go to break out about
a minute. Has there been enough because getting to this
guy's motivation.

Speaker 1 (01:15:35):
Has there been enough kind of blowback from the community.

Speaker 2 (01:15:38):
I thought a lot of people in the community accepted
the fact there was such a high crime and they
actually welcomed the National Guard to help put it down.
That it was really commentators, did you in any of
the ride alongs anything you see was the population of
DC pushing back on this, I.

Speaker 12 (01:15:55):
Would say there was a mixed bag as far as
the response to extra National Guard, an extra law enforce
to being on the ground. Some people were very grateful,
a lot of.

Speaker 23 (01:16:04):
People who lived here though they don't necessarily needed.

Speaker 12 (01:16:08):
You know, we spoke with a barbecue owner on the
northeast side of DC and he said, as long as
they keep to themselves and keep the situation safe, that
it's fine. But he had apprehensions and even see the
people inside the restaurant were apprehensive, So you do have
a bit of a mixed bag. What I will say though,
is if you talk to any tourists that come in,
they're very grateful that they're there.

Speaker 1 (01:16:29):
There, we'll hang on for a second.

Speaker 2 (01:16:32):
We've got an all star panel and Jack Pasobic is
riding shotgum with it. We're going to take a short
commercial break or in return, a tragedy in Washington, d
see two National guardsmen shot at close range in the head,
struggling for their life right now, both in critical condition.
A shooter that's also been said to be in critical condition.
We'll have all the updates for you when we return

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in the war room here in Real America's voice back
in a moment.

Speaker 7 (01:17:02):
To say, how do you think as a lawyer, what

(01:17:23):
do you think the consequences should be for people who
are abiding by following these steps from the commander in
chief when they seem to be complete overreaches of power.

Speaker 23 (01:17:33):
They're they're following unlawful commands from Donald Trump. And if
you're committing offenses and your defense is going to be
I was just following orders. You know, that didn't work
out so well at Nuremberg. It certainly didn't work out
so well for Lieutenant Calli when he you know, engaged
in mass murder, the Meli massacre, and you know, Pete

(01:17:58):
Hegseth just doing whatever ever Donald Trump tells him to do,
like initiating a criminal investigation that could result in a
court martial of Senator Kelly for simply stating accurately what
the military law provides, or cash Betel's FBI opening criminal
probes of members of Congress.

Speaker 14 (01:18:18):
For speaking the truth.

Speaker 23 (01:18:20):
You know, that is something that will someday, when the
rule of law comes back into the light of day,
will have to be tackled. They'll have to be held
accountable for those abuses.

Speaker 7 (01:18:29):
It's going to be accounting for all of this and
remembering all of.

Speaker 21 (01:18:32):
It of two people fighting for their lives, guardsmen that
this president put there. And as I said, I was
one that was very vocal against that. But I'm not
going to belittle the fact that their lives at state
to get into a back and forth with the President.
I can say that if I'm a member of their families,
I don't want to hear what he's saying about Honduras

(01:18:54):
right now. I want to pray that these two guardsmen
who were ordered there and who would be and told
by the mayor was ambush, make it through and all
of this about sending in five hundred people.

Speaker 17 (01:19:05):
What does that have to do with where we are now?

Speaker 21 (01:19:08):
I think that we've got to those of us that
have been opposed to the president's policy show that we
are not going to morally match him by going down
to a level of insensitivity. There are two people fighting
for their lives on Thanksgiving Eve, and it just seems
ironic to me that people that pardoned people assaulting police
officers are now talking about how they're going to uphold

(01:19:33):
and look up to the people in the building. People
in that building will beat January sixth.

Speaker 2 (01:19:39):
So, Chris Paihoda, how dangerous is that rhetoric, particularly the
one that Psaki at the beginning that if you're going
to do this, you're going to be investigated.

Speaker 1 (01:19:48):
What are your thoughts about that? As former senior member
of the FBI.

Speaker 11 (01:19:53):
It's dangerous and divisive, and it creates a situation where
people who are already at the to tick fringes of
ideology are pushed then into acts of violence, and it's
it's unproductive, and it's it's just flat. It's embarrassing that
our national leaders and prominent members of the media they

(01:20:17):
engage in that type of discussion.

Speaker 1 (01:20:21):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:20:21):
Jack Bosobic Darty. Eric Dherty has put up I think
you've seen it, that photo of the individual we've seen
he's saying. Now CNN is reporting that breaking. That's the
National Guard shooter identified by the FBI.

Speaker 1 (01:20:34):
He is not from Washington, d C.

Speaker 2 (01:20:36):
And not cooperating in Steve's parties and Steve, we do NBC.

Speaker 13 (01:20:42):
NBC is now reporting, as of a few minutes ago,
that the FBI will initially investigate the shooting of two
members of the National Guarden DC as a possible act
of terrorism, according to two senior US law enforcement officials.
The officials said that the suspect who used a handgun
in the attack has been initially identified as an Afghan national.
That is, according to NBC reporting as of right now,

(01:21:06):
so potential Afghan national, and that the FBI is looking
at this as a possible active terrorism.

Speaker 14 (01:21:13):
According to NBC News as of right now.

Speaker 2 (01:21:16):
Hit rewind give me that one more time. I want, guys,
if you even put up the Eric Dharty tweet. It's
the individual being put into the put into the ambulance.
He's got the beard that looks like a traditional Muslim beard. Jack,
can you give us what NBC News are reporting right now.

Speaker 13 (01:21:34):
Initially identifying or investigating the shooting as a possible active
terrorism per two senior US law enforcement officials, and that
officials have initially identified the.

Speaker 14 (01:21:47):
Shooter as an Afghan national. And that's according to NBC.

Speaker 2 (01:21:51):
News Chris piot I'm gonna come back to you before
going to win, you know, Jack Besobak said in the
previous hour of this show.

Speaker 1 (01:22:00):
It shouldn't be lost.

Speaker 2 (01:22:01):
On anybody, just as we think through this night that
the President I State signed a executive order designate the
least a study or moving forward with designating the Muslim
Brotherhood is a terrorist organization.

Speaker 11 (01:22:14):
Your thoughts are, I think it's a great step forward
for our national security. The Muslim Brotherhood has cruised under
the radar for decades and everyone has been reluctant to
investigate them solely on their Muslim Brotherhood affiliation. And if
you weren't part of one of the more hardcore identified

(01:22:34):
terror groups, you kind of were able to move through
life without FBI or intelligence community scrutiny.

Speaker 8 (01:22:42):
So I think it's a great move forward.

Speaker 11 (01:22:44):
I would just like to see how it progresses, and
I hope the President takes a very assertive stance.

Speaker 20 (01:22:48):
On this.

Speaker 1 (01:22:52):
With Lyneman.

Speaker 2 (01:22:54):
Your thoughts Now, NBC is identifying this individual, and you've
seen that photo if we can get it up on
if Denver can put it up, you've.

Speaker 1 (01:23:02):
Seen the photo.

Speaker 2 (01:23:03):
He's not cooperating, but CNN is reporting that he's not
from DC, and of course NBC News is saying he's
an Afghan national.

Speaker 1 (01:23:11):
Your thoughts are.

Speaker 12 (01:23:14):
Again, thoughts and prayers with the two National guardsmen that
are battling right now for their lives. And this I
think speaks to the bigger picture of the violence that
is occurring in the United States. As President Trump kind
of pushes forwards with his immigration crackdown, We're seeing over
one thousand percent increase on ice and Border Patrol officials
as they conduct their operations. We're seeing rhetoric from many

(01:23:37):
Democrats and people on the left that is pointing to people,
you know, possibly instigating some of these things. You know,
we're seeing just dangerous rhetoric coming out of the governor
of Illinois, the mayor in Chicago, the mayor of many
other areas. So I think that we have to be
careful and cognizant going forwards. And again, the violence seems
to be increasing across the board, whether it's people in

(01:23:59):
the country that are up at the administration or a
targeted attack on the National Guard here in DC.

Speaker 2 (01:24:06):
But doesn't this also reinforce what President Trump The reason
that the principal reason that the National Guard was called
in number one was to help with law enforcement of
these out controlled cities.

Speaker 1 (01:24:17):
The other was to help with ICE.

Speaker 2 (01:24:19):
As I started to take out the bad ombres with
are your thoughts on that?

Speaker 12 (01:24:26):
You know, we're hearing a call for National Guard across
multiple cities. The administration wants to send Guard troops to Portland,
to Chicago, where they've seen the most amount of violence
during the immigration raids. We did an mbed with the
Chicago area director there for ICE and he was talking
about the rammings that occur, the constant assaults on immigration
enforcement as they go through the city doing what they're

(01:24:49):
lawfully supposed to do. And there's over a million people
in the country that have final removal orders. These are
people that have had their time before a court and
they are legally supposed to be leaving. So I think
we're we're seeing just an increase in violence across the board.
And here in DC they've had numerous issues with VODs
for many, many decades, and the administration is bent on

(01:25:09):
making this area safer. And I think that the attack
tonight highlights the need for more troops, more involvement into
making our city safer.

Speaker 2 (01:25:18):
So you think the initial call Pete Heggs at tonight
the Secretary of War to say, hey, I've talked to
the President. We're sending in five hundred and more troops
in the into DC. Right away, you think that's fully justified.

Speaker 12 (01:25:31):
It certainly sounds like it, And I'm going to trust
the administration to do the right thing at this moment.
They obviously have more information than we do. But you know,
we'd like to see National Guard protecting our laws and
our people throughout the entire country and certainly here in
the capital.

Speaker 2 (01:25:47):
We hang on, Chris, Jack Jack, and would come back
to you about your call.

Speaker 1 (01:25:50):
Shot. We're going to take a short commercial break here
in Real America's Voice. You're in the war.

Speaker 2 (01:25:54):
Room as we expanded coverage nights, sitting in for John
Sollen and the team that are out for Thanksgiving.

Speaker 1 (01:26:01):
Shore commercial break back in a moment, everything's begun.

Speaker 14 (01:26:05):
If you walb the holder, Let's take it down.

Speaker 17 (01:26:09):
Let's say sad.

Speaker 20 (01:26:11):
For the world.

Speaker 2 (01:26:12):
On the hop kom we will fight to the lot God,
we rejoice.

Speaker 1 (01:26:17):
Swell, let's take down.

Speaker 17 (01:26:19):
Let's see. Here's your host, Stephen K.

Speaker 2 (01:26:25):
Bas Denver, if you'd be so kind to put up
the photograph of the shooter, Jack Pisobic. You called this
a couple of hours ago, you said, hey it it
shouldn't uh, it shouldn't be lost some people. The President
just signed this very controversial UH executive ord about the
Muslim brotherhood.

Speaker 1 (01:26:42):
I mean, we've been talking about it all day.

Speaker 2 (01:26:44):
We had Laura Lumer UH on this morning, UH with
UH with Alex Jones, and both of them went off
on it.

Speaker 1 (01:26:52):
The UH.

Speaker 2 (01:26:52):
And now NBC News is reporting UH that this individual,
the shooter, who is not cooperating with the FBI, is
from is from Afghanistan.

Speaker 13 (01:27:03):
Sir again, Steve, these are all initial reports, the same
as the photos. So I just want to say that
you know, we're we're going off of the information that
that we're receiving. Of course, I'm working my sources within
the federal government as well. A lot of people off
for the Thanksgiving holiday. I was already also planning to
be off with my family for the Thanksgiving holiday. But

(01:27:25):
fortunately Tanya, tay And and the boys are very understanding
and we'll get there.

Speaker 1 (01:27:30):
We'll get there.

Speaker 13 (01:27:31):
But Steve, what we're seeing now is this report saying
that it may have been an Afghan national end that
I'm hearing as well as NBC that international that not
just terrorism, but international terrorism is being looked at as
a potential motive by the FBI. So international terrorism and

(01:27:51):
Afghan national being named by senior law senior federal law enforcement.
And this is something that you certainly have to look
at in the context of President Trump signing that executive
order just a few days ago. In fact, when we
were there last Friday, we knew that it was in
the works and they were looking at signing it soon.
The President signed it just a few days later, Steve,

(01:28:13):
I remember I mentioned it to U off air actually
that evening, and so that the Muslim Brotherhood EO was
coming up. So this is something where you know, we
also know that northern Virginia. A lot of the Afghans
that even the United States brought out during the fall
of Kabwle ended up in on those planes, ended up
in Northern Virginia, and so a lot of questions then

(01:28:34):
coming forward. If this was an Afghan national, what immigration
status are they here under? Did they come during the
fall of Kabwle, did they come under some other auspices. Again,
all of this is going to come out in the investigation.

Speaker 2 (01:28:47):
And a lot of people that were very upset about that,
about the number that we were taking Chris Piotta, when
the FBI is telling sort of telling NBC News and
CNN and others that this is now going to be
they're going to also look about the international terrorism aspect
of this from an individual that's been identified as an
Afghan national. What does that tell you, sir? As a

(01:29:08):
former senior FBI assistant director, it.

Speaker 8 (01:29:12):
Means they're taking out all the stops.

Speaker 11 (01:29:14):
They're going to use all available authorities and resources and
investigative avenues to find out what this person's about, who
he knows, where he's been and has mentioned previously, How
did he enter our country, When did he enter, who
sponsored him in if he was sponsored. It's going to
be a very very fast moving investigation. The scopel widen

(01:29:37):
as it moves forward, and using the international terrorism umbrella
gives the FBI more access to certain intelligence collection resources
than a normal criminal investigative effort would.

Speaker 1 (01:29:53):
Well, isn't.

Speaker 2 (01:29:53):
This is also one of the reasons of desnying the
Muslim Brotherhood of terrorist organize.

Speaker 1 (01:29:57):
Again, you get the ability to look at.

Speaker 2 (01:29:59):
A money laundering finance the networks. They've got to actually
do logistics and financing of this, Sir.

Speaker 11 (01:30:10):
Absolutely, they want to make sure they can characterize a
network if it exists. They want to identify everyone in it,
and then they're going to figure out how to interdict
that network of logistical support or money or whatever the
support function is. So that's why they're opening this up.
And if the individual shooter as identified is an Afghan

(01:30:32):
national and they were able to make some reasonable inferences,
it's the prudent thing to do at this point.

Speaker 2 (01:30:40):
With Lineman, it's been at least we're getting reports that
the FBI is now looking this as a potential part
of international terrorism.

Speaker 12 (01:30:49):
Your thoughts, Sir, I agree with that you're Peyota completely
because I think that allowing this designation gives them more
resources going forward and allows them to do more and
access more different types of information. We see this with
a designation of the Mexican cartels. It allows the federal
government to utilize more resources and throw more weight at

(01:31:11):
the problem itself, and it gives them opportunity. So I
think this designation is shocking, not surprising, and certainly good
going forwards because they can allow for all of these
full of government to go forwards.

Speaker 2 (01:31:25):
By the way, Eric Bowling, the host of the five
o'clock or the four Cluckture just sent me. According to CNN,
the suspect approached the guardsman clearly intending to target them.
He fired first at one soldier who is mere feet away.
A second soldier tried to take cover behind a bus
stop shelter. The shuter then turned and fired at him too.
The suspect had zero identification on him, as completely stonewalling investigators.

(01:31:48):
This wasn't random, This wasn't a robbery, This wasn't wrong
place a time. This was a calculate execution attempt on
American troops and broad daylight in the nation's capital and
literally in the shadow of the White House, Jack Pasovic,
your thoughts, sir, Look.

Speaker 13 (01:32:06):
Steve, we live in a real world. We lived during
dangerous times. We see radical Marxism. We see the way
that the radical Marxists have opened our borders to all
slew of America's adversaries bringing in totally unvetted third worlders
from all over the place. You look at these programs
from the Middle East that we've talked about again and
again and again, these visa programs where they're just letting

(01:32:29):
anybody declare asylum, letting anyone declare that they should be
able to enter the United States, then overstaying visas in
many cases, overstaying temporary status. It's something obviously the Stephen
Miller has warned about. It's something that we've been warning
about here for years on the program. And you know,
I wish I could say, I wish I could say
that we had no indication, but this was avoidable.

Speaker 14 (01:32:51):
This was absolutely avoidable.

Speaker 13 (01:32:54):
And anyone who supported those programs really needs to take
a strong look at themselves in the mirror after this.

Speaker 2 (01:33:00):
Yes, with Lineman, we're going to let you go. We
want to thank the Borderhawk for being here. Where do
people get your show? Where do they get your content?
On Twitter?

Speaker 1 (01:33:11):
Sir?

Speaker 12 (01:33:12):
Thank you for the opportunity. Borderhawk dot news is the
website with underscore Lineman for Borderhawk News on Twitter.

Speaker 2 (01:33:20):
Border Hawk, You're amazing. Thank you for stepping in today.
Fantastic reporting from the streets right around the White House.
Chris Pyhota, thank you very much for stepping in here.
Can we get your coordinage your social media? Where do
people follow you?

Speaker 1 (01:33:32):
Sir?

Speaker 20 (01:33:34):
Sure?

Speaker 8 (01:33:34):
I'm on the X platform at Chris Pihota.

Speaker 11 (01:33:36):
I also have a YouTube channel that I just started up,
Ordinary People nine to five, one three, where we talk
about some good stuff and of course thank you for
showing my excite. And I authored a book about the
FBI called Wanted the FBI I Once Knew, talks about
how the FBI changed and what we can do to
get it back on track.

Speaker 8 (01:33:57):
Appreciate being here with you today.

Speaker 2 (01:34:00):
Now, Chris, we're looking forward to having me back on
the war Room and with Lyman. Also, great job guys
stepping in the day. Posto is gonna ride Shotgun.

Speaker 1 (01:34:08):
I think John.

Speaker 2 (01:34:09):
Fredericks is at the White House or is just that
the White House is going to try to get him
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you've got some breaking news a Jack.

Speaker 13 (01:35:09):
Yes, Steve. This comes from Julio Rosas. He's a marine.
Of course, he's done a lot of this street reporting
in the past. He's someone who's got excellent, impeccable sources
within law enforcement, specifically in Washington, d C. He writes
law law enforcement source in DC tells me the National
guardsman shooting suspect as an Afghan national who used a revolver.

(01:35:31):
A National guardsman, who was not armed with a firearm,
used a pocket knife to stab the suspect. Another guardsman
responded to the gunfire and shot the suspect multiple times.
The suspect reportedly shouted a lahu akbar.

Speaker 2 (01:35:47):
A pocket knife lahu akbar by the way, uh Laura
Lumer had tipped to you. You called this in the
first thirty seconds the picture was up. John Fredericks, you
were actually on the location. You join us now from
near the White House. What happened?

Speaker 24 (01:36:03):
Well, listen, this is two blocks from the White House.
This is right by where I live. Actually, my son
Joe's home from Maryland Baseball. We walked right by there
about thirty minutes thirty five minutes before this. We always say,
how to the National Guard, they have revitalized this city.
But let me tell you what went on today. This
is a political assassination. This was You got the Democrats

(01:36:26):
out there, Jack and Steve every day talking about their Nazis.
You know, they're occupying the city, all this nonsense. You
talk to the residents of DC like me, They love
the National Guard. All the protests you get here are
not from residents of Washington, d C. They're not from
the black community. It's all from white liberals coming from

(01:36:47):
their mansions, their gated mansions in northern Virginia, Montgomery County.
And so what happened today is horrific. Now we can't
back down because what they really want is us to
cave get the National Guard out, Let the clime come back.

Speaker 1 (01:37:01):
Not going to happen.

Speaker 24 (01:37:02):
In fact, Pete Hegseth today said look tomorrow, I'm sending
five hundred more National Guard in to protect the city.
Now this was I mean coming out of here. We
see them every single day. We talked, We say hi,
thank you for being here. How is things going. Don't
get down all the people spinning on you or whatever,
they don't live here. The residents love you. Look look Jack,

(01:37:26):
They walk around, they pick up trash, they clean off graffiti,
they plant flowers. This is what the National Guard does,
and they protect you. When I first came here in December,
it was an absolute craphole. I couldn't go down the street.
I couldn't take an out to supper. I would never
let her ride the Metro. Now we live in the
safest city in America. The revitalization that Prisident Trump has

(01:37:48):
done in Washington and DC in eight nine months is
the greatest metamorphosis in the galaxy. This is now the
greatest city with as far as crime is down. And
goes on the metro. Joe goes on the Metro. I
go on it every day walk the streets. I just
took my family right now, I stepped out for dinner.
No worries because of what Trump has done. This message

(01:38:10):
has got to go Nashally and we can't let a
political assassin stop this. And that's basically what happened here.

Speaker 2 (01:38:18):
John Frederick's social media. I know you're going to be
up all night tonight. We're getting ready to punch here.
Where do people go? You were down there today, you
live right around the corner. Great report on the National Guard.
What's shocking is that one of the national government did
not have a weapon. He had or didn't have a gun.
What he had was a pocket knife. John, Where do
people go to get more of your reporting tonight?

Speaker 17 (01:38:39):
Really easy?

Speaker 24 (01:38:40):
I'm all over social media at JF Radio Show. At
JF Radio Show, everything is there, Jack and Steve.

Speaker 2 (01:38:46):
Thanks for having me, Jack, John, thank you so much,
and thank you for the great report.

Speaker 1 (01:38:53):
Pasobi.

Speaker 2 (01:38:53):
Before we leave, turn it over to the Stinchfield Show.
I've got to ask you. We had Laura Lumer, we
had Lumer on today and we had Alex Jones and
you in the second hour of the morning show to
talk about, Hey, why do we need why do we
need seventy five days on the Muslim brotherhood. Right, we've
studied this for a year. Understanding President Trump does all

(01:39:15):
these there's a format, as Alex Jones walked through, but
does in this show?

Speaker 1 (01:39:20):
This is now?

Speaker 2 (01:39:21):
You know when the guy's given the hottest cry before
he shoots two National guardsmen in the head at point
blank range. Isn't it time now we say enough is enough.
Let's go ahead and roll through this designation and start
getting serious about throwing this trash out of our country.

Speaker 13 (01:39:39):
Steve, you want to talk about taking out the trash?
I think it's very simple. Mass deportations is the moderate
position at this point. Mass deportations is the moderate position.
And look, we talked about it earlier. We talked about
the men of the West need to start waking up
and handling things. The men of Texas. I don't know
if there's any men left. And why Washington, d C.

(01:40:00):
Since President Trump's not there right now. But you've got
a situation where they're coming. They're raping the women, they're
coming for children, they're shooting our soldiers, they're shooting our
police officers.

Speaker 14 (01:40:12):
Why are they here, Steve? Why do we let them
into our country?

Speaker 13 (01:40:15):
Why are we told that they had to be here
when you look at what's going on in Minneapolis, when
you look at what's going on in Dearborn, when you
look at so many of these places. National guardsmen being
shot up in our in our capital, in our capital
city on a holiday. Steve, that's like something you would
hear from a third world country. But it's not. It's
what we're hearing right now in Washington, d C. In

(01:40:37):
the United States of America today. Why are they here?
They shouldn't be here. They need to go.

Speaker 2 (01:40:43):
On the eve of Thanksgiving, you know, the only country
in the world that thanks God for the bounty and
the and the and the blessings we've.

Speaker 1 (01:40:50):
Had, they're going to shoot them right in the shadow
of the White House.

Speaker 2 (01:40:53):
Enough is enough. We gotta stop. We got to stop it.
We have to stop playing games. We gotta get serious.
Jack Pisobic social Media, Sir, you are on fire. Where
do people go, Steve?

Speaker 13 (01:41:04):
You can follow me up at Jack Pasobic on Twitter
True Social. We're going to have a big special this
week and Thursday Friday all about the twisted world of
Tyler Robinson and I wanted to just show for the
audience folks want to know about this.

Speaker 14 (01:41:20):
That this is going to be available soon.

Speaker 13 (01:41:21):
I've got here a copy of Charlie Kirk's last book,
This is Stopping the Name of God. It's about how
Charlie used to take off time one day a week,
get away from the phone, spend time with God. Charlie
loved Thanksgiving. He loved a day to just be with
the Lord, to be with his family. This book is
coming out on December ninth. Erica Kirk wrote the foreword
to it just a few weeks ago. Incredible.

Speaker 2 (01:41:45):
Have a great Thanksgiving, Jack and Tel, Tanya and the kids.

Speaker 1 (01:41:50):
Thank you for letting you take you for a couple
hours here. Appreciate it. Appreciate you.

Speaker 13 (01:41:55):
God Bless Steve, God bless to the Posse into the
National Guardsman.

Speaker 2 (01:41:58):
We're going to be back here tomorrow at ten am
for our Thanksgiving special. Don't miss it. Billy Joe Shaver
takes us out. Get thee behind me Satan.

Speaker 22 (01:42:06):
And couldn't see my sue the demons that were in.

Speaker 17 (01:42:11):
Me and turned me alongside Hell.

Speaker 22 (01:42:15):
I knew inside my soul I was aheaded straight for Hell,
but I couldn't hoe my life

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