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December 15, 2025 48 mins

THE WAR ROOM WITH STEPHEN K. BANNON, DECEMBER 15TH, 2025
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JAVIER NEGRE
JOHN SOLOMON
OSCAR RAMEIRZ
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Of our great service members.

Speaker 2 (00:01):
We've stopped the invasion and its tracks, and we're dismantling
the cartels very rapidly, and they are being declared enemies
of the United States of America.

Speaker 1 (00:15):
They have been so declared legally declared.

Speaker 2 (00:18):
More than twenty five thousand warriors have served in this
historic operation. It is indeed an incredible and historic operation,
and we've never done anything so effectively, and we've had
a lot of victories. They've spent night and day enduring
scorching hot and bitter cold, and they've given up their

(00:38):
holidays and their weekends working with the offices of Customs
and Border Protection. Our armed forces have already conducted nearly
thirteen thousand patrols along the border, and today we give
these great warriors the recognition.

Speaker 1 (00:53):
That they have earned, and they have really earned.

Speaker 2 (00:57):
The military component of our border security efforts is just
the beginning. We're also designating the drug cartels as foreign
terrorist organizations, a big deal from a legal standpoint and
military standpoint. We've ended catch and release, and we endured
and ensured that anyone who sets foot across our border

(01:18):
illegally is intercepted, arrested, and immediately deported, or if they're
really bad, they're put into prison, because we don't want
to ever take a chance if to come back.

Speaker 3 (01:29):
You know, I was just I just got home last night.

Speaker 4 (01:32):
I toured the border in California, Arizona, Texas.

Speaker 3 (01:36):
I did it forward drive, I did it on the river.
I did it from the.

Speaker 4 (01:41):
Air, hundreds upon hundreds of miles of border. I didn't
see one illegal alien, now, single one. I've done this
since nineteen eighty four. I worked for six different presidents.
Zone has done more than President Trump. Woods and is

(02:01):
kipis the most secure order in the history of this nation.

Speaker 3 (02:05):
Heart stop. I went hundreds of miles of boarder, did
see one illegal.

Speaker 4 (02:11):
Incredible considering a Biden administration, we had ten twelve thousand
a day, most released in the United States. I'm probably
to be with these patrons behind me. I'm already probably
being the overlaps and president, but being with these heroes.
I met some of these soldiers down on the border
and actually shout off the four grum New York who

(02:33):
had some tenth Mountain vision the airs, so at least
to find it. Claudia Attendant, we all love Fort Drum
and the Tenth Mountain. So look, if this is a
game change, I want to make something perfect. Can we
get attacked all the time being inhumane? The Biden administration
is much more Humanie. It's just it's a bunch of crap,
because there's been studies done at thirty one percent of
women and make that journey through the cartails get sexy assaulted,

(02:56):
they get raped and not just the women, children too.
I've done numerous investigations in that sex trafficking was the
historic eise with an open border Patnam historic hiys I
called it killed before the man Americans, no inspected terrorists
that came across the border. Record historically, what happened under

(03:18):
Biden administration was the most inhumane thing I've seen in
my lifetime. Now that the border is ninety six percent
be kind, ninety six percent less people are coming.

Speaker 3 (03:28):
How many women aren't being a rape?

Speaker 4 (03:30):
How many children aren't dying making that journey, How many
women and children aren't being.

Speaker 3 (03:34):
Sex trafficking to this country every day?

Speaker 4 (03:36):
How many enormance respected terrorists aren't just walking across that border.
President Trump, in this administration, they're saving thousands of lives
every month. Heart stop, that's just a stone called fact.
I'm just probably a part of this. I wrote with
Steve Miller every day. Steve Roll was one of the
most brilliant people I met in.

Speaker 3 (03:54):
My I started life.

Speaker 4 (03:56):
President Trump bought together one hell of a team here,
and success proved. We are all working together, one team,
one fight. We're not done yet. We're going to keep going,
and I guarantee you we'll continue to say in thousands
and thousands of lives, secure border means strong eness of security.

Speaker 3 (04:12):
Secure border saves lives. Thank you.

Speaker 2 (04:15):
That's why today I'm taking one more step to protect
Americans from the scourge of deadly fentanyl flooding into our
country with this historic executive order I will sign today.
We're formerly classifying fentanyl as a weapon of mass destruction.

Speaker 1 (04:32):
Which is what it is.

Speaker 2 (04:34):
No bomb does what this is doing. The poorly run
state of Colorado with a governor who's incompetent and frankly,
with a governor that won't allow our wonderful Tina to
come out of a jail, in a high intensity jail
because she caught people cheating on an election and they.

Speaker 1 (04:53):
Said she was cheating. She wasn't cheating. She went over,
she looked at one.

Speaker 2 (04:59):
Of the election scams going on, and because she did that,
they put her in jail for nine years.

Speaker 1 (05:07):
The governor of Colorado.

Speaker 2 (05:11):
Is a weak and pathetic man who was run by
tread day Aragua. The criminals from Venezuela took over sections
of Colorado and he was afraid to do her I think.
But he puts Tina in jail for nine years because
she caught people cheating.

Speaker 1 (05:26):
And when she walked over and got involved in it,
they said she was cheered. She wasn't cheating.

Speaker 2 (05:31):
She caught people cheating on the election twenty twenty, along with.

Speaker 1 (05:36):
A lot of other people the cheated on that election.
You'll see that coming out more and more.

Speaker 5 (05:40):
First of all, as around the world, as liberal democracy phrase,
we see the rise in all forms of bigotry, and
we're seeing that globally. It rises of anti Semitism, rises
of nativism, of Islamophobia, anti LGBT. So that's one element
that you associate with the far right. In twenty eighteen,
the Tree of Light Synagogue shooter was radicalized by his

(06:01):
fear of an immigrant invasion from Central America and he
attacked the synagogue because it had a refugee Shabbat It's
also clear that since October seventh, some people are taking
out their anger against Israel against Jews, which is fundamentally wrong.
Jews are not responsible, regardless of what they think about Israel,
they are not responsible for what Israel does any more

(06:22):
than a Chinese American person or a Chinese Australian person
would be responsible for what the People's Republic of China does.
But tragically, we see empirically that there is a rise
in anti Semitic attacks by people who are wrongly and
immorally taking out their anger at Israel against Jews.

Speaker 6 (06:40):
Well, why is that we don't generally see it, as
you said, for a Chinese American based on what is
happening in China for the People's Republic is doing.

Speaker 7 (06:49):
Why do we see it?

Speaker 8 (06:50):
Why is it different for Jews.

Speaker 5 (06:52):
Well, during COVID, we actually did see some of this.
If you remember, there were the spate of attacks. This
degree no, but there was a quite frightening spate of
attacks against Chinese Americans. Universal condemnation there was, and I
think there's been a pretty broad condemnation of this as
well as there as there should be. The important thing
I think to say is that there are many peoples
around the world who share an ancestry, an ethnicity, or

(07:15):
religion or race with governments that do various things. We
also see in the United States the history of attacks
on Muslims because people were upset at what Iran did
or upset at after September eleventh.

Speaker 9 (07:25):
Or isis right?

Speaker 5 (07:26):
The key thing to say is that people deserve to
be treated equally, are and free of bigotry irrespect of
what you think about the government that may share a
particular ethnic characteristic or religious character.

Speaker 10 (07:40):
This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray
for our enemies because we're going to medieval on these people.

Speaker 7 (07:50):
There's not got a free shot.

Speaker 10 (07:51):
All these networks lying about the people, the people have
had a belly full of it. I know you don't
like hearing that. I know you tried to do everything
in the world to stop them, but you're not going
to stop it.

Speaker 7 (08:00):
It's going to happen.

Speaker 11 (08:02):
And where do people like that go to share the
big line?

Speaker 9 (08:05):
Mega media?

Speaker 10 (08:07):
I wish in my soul, I wish that any of
these people had a conscience. Ask yourself, what is my
task and what is my purpose?

Speaker 1 (08:16):
If that answer is to save my country.

Speaker 10 (08:19):
This country will be saved. War Room.

Speaker 9 (08:23):
Here's your host, Stephen K.

Speaker 5 (08:25):
Bath.

Speaker 10 (08:31):
It's Monday, fifteenth December, Year of Our Lord, twenty twenty five.
We're gonna start with John Solomon. John, when we talked
pre dawn this morning, he was to bring you on
about breaking news of Justin News and John Solomon reports.
But I gotta ask you, President Trump on fire today
on the Sunday of the Executive Order, what's the importance
of this? You got Tom Holman all jacked up. You
got everybody focus on fentanyl as a weapon of mass destruction,

(08:55):
the drug cartels as international terrorist organizations, plus cash rolls
up for bad guys in Los Angeles on a New
Year's Eve bombing. You've got what's happened in Australia put
in perspectives for his perspective forces, John Solomon.

Speaker 12 (09:12):
I think TAM's a good reminder that America is currently
at war, not in the traditional sense of a World
War two or Vietnam war, but in the sense that
our enemies are trying to create death and destruction on
our soil. They do it with fentanyl, which has now
killed more Americans than World War Two.

Speaker 10 (09:28):
Did they do it with terror attacks.

Speaker 12 (09:31):
They do it with hatred and anti semitism that eventually
leads people to take such extraordinary actions as what we
saw in Australia. So I think the President declaring fentanyl
a weapon of mass destruction reminds the American people in
a powerful way that we are at war in this
country right now. We are under attack every day in

(09:53):
ways that we never saw before our country's history. And
whether it's the Chinese precursor makers or the Venezuelan and
Mexican drug cartel, as a president has made clear now
he considers their actions to be as heinous as a
nuclear weapon, as dangerous as a nuclear weapon, and he
intends to punish those who perpetrate it, like those who

(10:14):
would deploy a nuclear weapon on the United States. So
really extraordinary day today Cash Bettel keeps stopping terror and
school shootings. I mean, think about three or four or
five school shootings I know of this year that they
called local police, they rolled up a guy before he
did something terrible. That's a great thing, a a more proactive,
preemptive FBI. And then of course today a major terror

(10:36):
attack that looks like it was a far left group.
We have a pro Palestine far left group that was
going to light up Los Angeles on New Year's Eve,
and the FBI stopped it before that could happen. So
a good day for prevention, a good day for reminding
the American people that were at war with enemies, some
of them a little less visible than the traditional enemies

(10:57):
in the world.

Speaker 10 (10:58):
We're going to drill down tomorrow. The Red Green Alliance.
You got this looks like a trainee some radical lefties
jahatas as the Red Green Alliance for this Los Angeles thing.
We got to drill down. But John, when we go
back to the story that we're going to start with
this morning pre dawn, when you broke it, is that
particularly the audience, a lot of sudden theyre going, hey,
I got where it war. Trump's doing great stuff for
doesn't percenting these eos got, But how are we going

(11:21):
to win this war when the enemy within the deep
state that you've been hammering for years and years and
years tell us about your story when you don't know
who's really on your side of the football and who's
with us and who's a Guinness.

Speaker 12 (11:33):
Sir, Well, what you end up seeing in this story
this morning is that even during the first Trump administration,
there were people in the Justice Department and the FBI
who were protecting Hillary Clinton and Bill Clinton from the
sort of justice they should face for a pay to
play scheme involving their foundation. In Hillary Clinton's decisions as
Secretary of State, extraordinary memos, extraordinary details we learned for

(11:55):
the first time in these documents that Cash Battell and
Pam Bondy gave to Chuck grasse Ty Krasseley gave to
Justin News that the FBI first intercepted information suggesting a
pay to play scheme with Hillary Clinton back in twenty ten.
They were sitting or they had a recording or consentsual
recording made of a conversation by a famous Democrat Indian

(12:16):
American Democrat donor fundraiser named Chatwell. He would eventually go
be convicted of some fundraising crimes, but the concern in
that call was not excessive limits or contributions exceeding the limits.
It was the idea that foreigners were lining up and
they were going to give money to the Clinton Foundation
so that Hillary Clinton could make favorable decisions for them
in their countries and their foreign companies. That didn't go

(12:39):
anywhere during the Obama years. In twenty sixteen, three separate
FBI offices, as you and I've talked about, because these
were earlier documents, we got opened up. And then on
the Clinton Foundation, Little Rock, Washington, d C. And New
York all believed they had clear evidence of a pay
to play corruption scheme involving the Clintons. As we met

(13:00):
and the last time we talked about this, Sally Aids
gave a command from the Deputy Turney saying shut it down.
But inside the FBI sixteen seventeen eighteen, it kept getting
shut down. Andy McCabe kept shutting it down, kept putting
pressure there.

Speaker 7 (13:13):
When cut it down?

Speaker 10 (13:16):
The when is the statue limitations run out on McCabe
and these guys to get them up, because I'm hearing
this like the last week of January of this of
next year.

Speaker 12 (13:25):
Well, remember McKay about left in twenty seventeen, so five
years of twenty twenty two. The real statute is in
twenty twenty six. If you take the conspiracy case that
in Florida is about to begin in January, the clock
is ticking, but you can bring a very big conserious again,
and that case is now underway, for the first time
I can confirm they're bringing witnesses and evidence before grand

(13:45):
jury in Florida to look at the last decade as
one ongoing criminal conspiracy.

Speaker 10 (13:50):
We impaneled the grand jury. Finally, criminal grand jury. John Solomon,
where did they go? You follow us here at six?
Where they go to get all your contents served?

Speaker 12 (13:59):
Just the news tomorrow morning, day two of Clinton Foundation.
Hillary Clinton had a Russia collusion problem. They found it,
but it got shut down. We're gonna give everybody the
details tomorrow morning.

Speaker 10 (14:10):
God, you're killing me on this. You're killing me on this.
Sorry about John Solomon. We'll see you back on here
tomorrow morning. Then we'll track you out. Thank you, brother. Wow.
The Clintons, come on, man in a fair universe. The
Clintons unbelievable. We got to get to the bottom mode

(14:33):
of the deep state. Here got to be broken apart
action action, action, big action. Today in the Oval rev Espinole,
our sister channel. Got a couple of questions in Javier
Negray and Oscar Blue Ramirez. Next on the weapons of
mass destruction that is fentanyl in the war.

Speaker 13 (14:54):
Room America, Real americasvoye on Spaniel.

Speaker 1 (15:01):
First of all, thanks for honoring this. Thank you heroes.

Speaker 13 (15:04):
The communist have to lot Chile, the pro Trump candidates
won elections.

Speaker 1 (15:09):
Do you think this right wing wave in the Spaning
world is due to your influence?

Speaker 2 (15:14):
Well, I just we just had a good one in Honduras.
As you know, I had a great election there. I
endureed somebody that was not leading and he won the election,
and we had a good one. Just a little couple
of hours ago. I found out in Chile the person
I endused who was not leading, ended up winning quite easily.
So I look forward to paying my respects. So my
hero is a very good person.

Speaker 1 (15:36):
President.

Speaker 13 (15:36):
The Democrats won Miami, where you won the election one
year ago. Do you think it's because of Hispanic media
like Telemundo that are publishing fake news about the ice operations.
How do you plan to win back those votes for midterms?

Speaker 1 (15:49):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (15:49):
Well I won that whole election, and you know it's
interesting when I'm not running, we don't do as well.
And I'm going to try and get that change for
the midterms. But we did have a big win in
tennis is you know Matt Van Epps. Van Epps had
a big win in Tennessee against a very strong candidate,
attractive candidate who a lot of.

Speaker 1 (16:10):
People thought would do very well.

Speaker 2 (16:12):
And Matt won by a lot, and I won Tennessee by.

Speaker 1 (16:16):
A real lot.

Speaker 2 (16:17):
You know, we had a great We had a great election.
We won every single swing state, we won the popular vote,
we won everything. And there's a thing that they have now, districts,
which is a big deal. I think in a way,
it's the most important stat from the standpoint of, you know,
looking at numbers accurately. So out of thousands of districts,

(16:41):
I won two thousand and seven hundred and fifty versus
five hundred and twenty five. Think of that, two seven
hundred and fifty versus five twenty five. It was great.
That's why the map, when you see a map of
the election, it's all read other than two little narrow
lines on the other side.

Speaker 1 (17:00):
Please, Jimmy Mile was convicted today. In the other reactions,
I feel so badly.

Speaker 2 (17:06):
I spoke to Presidency about it and I asked to
consider his release. He's not well. He's an older man
and he's not well. So I did put that request out.
We'll see what happens.

Speaker 10 (17:21):
Okay, okay, Jimmy Lai. Of course, that's horrific. We're going
to spend more time with that tomorrow. Jimmy Lye, the
great hero in Hong Kong, found guilty of sedition and
he is looking at life in prison. He's going to
be sentenced, I think in early January. Horrible situation. Hopefully
the US government steps in there, like Bolson are. We

(17:43):
got some big problems around the world. Javier joins us. Javier,
you're the White House correspondent now for v Espanole. It's
amazing today you kind of kicked off great questions. Just
tell me what's the importance of having a Spanish language,
Maggott net You know where the real America's voice in
the main channel is quite mega. We're proudly right wing. Well,

(18:06):
you had a huge we had a huge win last
night in Chile, a huge win. In fact, Financial Times
did a big article and quote pretty a lot, and
they're talking about how big it was for the whole
mega movement, for President Trump, for Hampsteare defense, all of it.
How important is it to have a voice on the
right that really cuts through all the bs and gets

(18:27):
right to what's happening in the oval officer.

Speaker 7 (18:31):
Thank you very much.

Speaker 14 (18:32):
Stiff it's really important because the Democrats, the globalist the communists,
they're using platforms like unibsion like Telemundo to publish fake news,
using the Ice operation and telling the people the Hispanic
community that Trump hates Hispanic people and they are hiding

(18:53):
the criminal records of these kinds of people that are
being deported. So it's really important to show how the
reality is in the Hispanic community because in the American side,
you are doing a great job. You know, you have
a lot of YouTubers, podcasters that speaks English, but you
have a lot of people in Miami, have a lot
of friends in Miami in Texas that they don't understand English,

(19:16):
and they need to have a voice in the Hispanic side.

Speaker 7 (19:19):
So it's really important.

Speaker 14 (19:21):
The movement that Rob and PARKERSI made with Raugh and
on Espanel, and the movement that the White House wants
today with me like to take me into the Oval
Office to have two questions about the importance not of
having a Spanish media in the Oval Office talking about
what's going on on Chile or the right wing wave

(19:42):
that impact in the South America world thanks to Trump.
We saw in Argentina, we're very close with the president
of lay As you know, we're very close with the
president of Ecuador.

Speaker 7 (19:53):
We are very close with the candidate of Onduras.

Speaker 14 (19:56):
And anytime that Trump supports a candidate, are watching in
South America that people win elections. And I give you
an example in Mexico, all the media, all the mainstream
media hates tramp. I own the Chai Aio and WEGM
plus and we are supporting the ideas the values of
Trump in those kinds of countries. So it's really important

(20:19):
to create a big network to show this Panic community
that Trump is not evil for Hispanic community, It's a
good guy.

Speaker 7 (20:27):
He makes law and order, he creates employees.

Speaker 14 (20:30):
And now if you go to Miami now with a
major communist or you see New York, the Democrats, they
want to use these Panic voters to tell them lies.
So I think it's very important for the White House
to have more media for this Spanic community. Because Univision, Telemundo, CNN,
on espanel.

Speaker 7 (20:51):
They are taken by Democrats.

Speaker 14 (20:54):
A lot of founds from USAD founds you know globally
is people like show us.

Speaker 7 (21:00):
They invest a lot of money in that kind of platforms.

Speaker 14 (21:04):
In Miami, they used they are buying like radio station,
TV station to spread bad words about Trump, and we
had to fight against. The best place to do is
Real America's Voice espanel every Sunday they show. You can
follow them on YouTube and in Real America's voice platforms.

Speaker 10 (21:23):
However, how big a deal is that We've been fighting
people behind the scenes, been fighting and getting the studio
the administration for our president Trumps wanted to do it.
Fentannel is the weapons of mass destruction and the cartels
is international terrorist organization. Gives us a whole big, broader toolbox.
How big a deal is that, sir?

Speaker 14 (21:42):
You know, the fentannel is a big problem. No, I
think that Trump he is doing correct. No, like make
pressure into the Mexican government. We are telling all the
people how Venezuela and how Mexico is taking rucks into
United States and killing our children. It's very important that

(22:03):
people in that country, the Mexican people that leaves I
give you an example in California understands the role of
Trump in Mexico, the role of Trump in Venezuela. I
think that Trump is a peace man. He wants peace,
but he wants to destroy.

Speaker 7 (22:19):
All the drag boats.

Speaker 14 (22:21):
You know, I'm watching right now like Democrats telling the people, Hey,
we have to stop the attacks against the drag boats.
Why so Trump wants to protect the Hispanic community, wants
to protect the English community against the.

Speaker 7 (22:35):
Drug dealers and faint Tanilo. It's very hard. In Spain,
we don't have that problem.

Speaker 14 (22:41):
It's a big problem that people from China, that people
from Venezuela, they are having a lot of money from
this drug that are killing the American So I'm very
happy that you have a president right now in the
United States taking care of other people.

Speaker 7 (22:53):
So making no America health again.

Speaker 10 (22:57):
How where do we get you on Real America's war Espano?
How do we get all the news over there in
your show?

Speaker 14 (23:05):
Yeah, we have a daily, not a weekly show, every
Sunday at eight in the afternoon. So we are collecting
all the influencers of a cultural battle. No that we
are from Argentina, from Ecuador, from Bolivia. No, in Bolivia
we have a right wing president right now. We are
very happy. We talk about the corruption in the Spanish

(23:27):
government and the closest relationship between the Spanish government and
the ex president Sabateo with Maduro, they are making millionaires
deals and there are socialists taking into the prision, you know,
because they are making big deals with Madura. And we
want to tell all the Spanish community how communism works

(23:48):
in the whole world because they are like connected everywhere
and they have like founds in common in Iran, in
China and Russia. We have to fight no against these
fake news that tack you, that attacked me. It's funny
because in Spain the leftists are telling all the people
that I'm following your step, Stiff, so I'm very proud

(24:10):
of it.

Speaker 7 (24:10):
So you are for me like a master.

Speaker 14 (24:12):
It's like the Hispanic Stevano, of course, but I want
to follow your steps for the Spanic Committee because I
think it's building. We are helping right now. You know,
parties like Box in Spain. The communism is really dangerous
and we need to look the elections and we need to.

Speaker 7 (24:31):
Combat know a fake news platforms.

Speaker 14 (24:34):
And here in America we have a big, big thing
in the Hispanic media. They are controlling by the Democrat
And I think that the White House gave us an
example today like how we can fight together against fake
news media for rough and Spaniel and making good questions
to Donald Trump.

Speaker 7 (24:52):
President.

Speaker 10 (24:53):
We look forward to seeing you back. The ovals are
a great start. How you appreciate you, sir, great story.

Speaker 7 (25:00):
Thank you Marie much.

Speaker 14 (25:01):
And I would love to interview in The Rainy Show
every Sunday at eight pm Yester time.

Speaker 7 (25:05):
Thank you very much, of Steve.

Speaker 10 (25:07):
I'll be there. Thank you, sir, Oscar. I'm hold you
over to the next to the next break. Also, Caroline
Wren's going to join me. Very disturbing in Providence. An
extraordinary young woman up there. I don't make sure. I
think this thing might have been targeted against the conservative
We're going to get to that. Caroline Ren's going to
give you what she thinks. Oscar Blue Ramirez. When I
watched this today, brother, the very first thing that came

(25:29):
to my mind, Oscar and Ben mur Kwam, all those
years you spent in the jungle, all of the years
you spent with the cartels tracking you down. You have
been saying this on this show for five years. We
need to designate fentanyl as a weapon of mass destruction,
and we need to designate the cartels as terrorist organizations.
Give me a minute before you go to break. What

(25:50):
do you think, sir?

Speaker 6 (25:52):
It's a great accomplishment and that is the perfect way
to describe phanto. L SSS has been contaminating the whole role,
but it's specifically the United States of America to designate
fentanyl as a weapon of mass instruction. It is a
great accomplishment, and I hope that every single country and
the whole content and recognize this. This way, weapon of
mass is right.

Speaker 10 (26:11):
Just see oscar hang on holders through the break. Caroline
ren is with us. David Malpass has an amazing piece
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Speaker 10 (27:02):
Ban a man that's gone in harm's way many times.
Oscar Blue Rimirez, covering the story for years for his
country and his countrymen. Oscar, remember the first time you
came on when for some on the show they tried
to kill you down there when you came on War Room,
you saw Holmans. I mean that's from the heart. Tom

(27:22):
Holmans as good as you get. And he says, I've
been all over the border. I don't see any illegal
aliens come across. You've been in the trenches, you saw
this day. You've worked on this for a long time.
You and Burkwan, what are the two or three actions
you're looking for coming out of the White House now
that the designation has taking place. What are you looking
for as far as action.

Speaker 6 (27:40):
Goes, immediate pressure to the Mexican government, asks to more
exposure or to the dirty politicians going to their bank accounts,
and ultimately, at the end of the day, more pressure
to this mental these fentanyl laboratories that has been growing
in Mexical because of the enormous pressure of Donald Trump,
pressuring the leftist political party on one end, up pressuring

(28:00):
Shaane bound and ultimately at the end of the day,
pushing some pressure on the Mexican military to go to
these random areas dismantled the laboratories, and from now on, Steve,
it is full on pressure to put on the Mexican
garment to actually go after the cartels, eradicate this problem,
eliminate this problem, because the Mexican people, this is what
they really want. And now more than ever, the Mexican

(28:23):
people are citing with Donald Trump in terms two putting
pressure to the corruption that is happening in our country.

Speaker 10 (28:31):
Oscar, I'm heavy back on that suple days, but I
want to make announcement. You also are going to get
a show on Real America's Voice Espanol. Is that correct? Yes, absolutely, sir.

Speaker 6 (28:41):
You know we have been blessed to be with Real
Americans Voice use almost eight years. I've been working and
broadcasting for your show with the war Room and for
the network in English, and now we have the glorious
opportunity to speak in our language and in Spanish, to
bring it to compete, and we're coming. We're going to
take over the continent. We're going to have a show,
full on one hour show in rabbits fanol and it

(29:03):
is going to be you know, full informative and clearly
transparent and all right news all not fake news like
the leftists, you know, Hispanic news medias that they're installing
the United States of America lying to our people, that
the Mexican people and the Lastino and Latino Hispanic people,
we are conservative by nature and we know our values
and we're going to try to bring that with Real

(29:24):
American's Voice.

Speaker 10 (29:24):
Use and is fanol sir. Amen, You're you're a very
special guy and a very courageous guy. Social media, where
do people go.

Speaker 6 (29:31):
Brother, Oscar Bla Ramirez and Getter, Sir, I'm trying to
grow that platform so that people can follow me at Getter,
Oscar Bla Ramirez on X and of course Real America's
Voice New Sir. Thank you so much, sir for the
opportunity every time to be on War Room, and like
I have always said, you are an incredible mind and we.

Speaker 10 (29:47):
Are really lucky to have you, you know, on this fight.
Thank you appreciate it and great work today. You and
Ben Burke Clome I have just worked for years on
getting this done. So fantastic. Great for the White House,
the team over there home and President all of it.
New Day dawning against against war, against these cartels. Caroline
ren is going to join me. Let's play a very

(30:07):
moving at Mass yesterday there was announcement made in Alabama.
Let's go ahead and cut to it.

Speaker 15 (30:13):
Some of you haven't heard. A lot of you had
heard the uh the tragedy yesterday at Brown University, the
shooting of a number of people, and tragically one of
our prishoners, Ella Cook, was one of those who was
killed yesterday. And those of you who knew her, those
of you who know her, she was an incredible, grounded, faithful,

(30:38):
bright light, not only here growing up here at the advent,
in the myriad ways in which she served faithfully, in
the ways in which she encouraged and lift up those
around her, but at Brown University she was an incredible
light in that particular place as well, and her parents

(30:59):
as well, in her and her family, Richard and Anna
Hooker and Mary Hamner. So very gracious, I'm so very
faithful you yourselves a good and gracious light. We we
hear in the words of John's Gospel. The light shines
in the darkness, and the darkness cannot, and the darkness

(31:24):
will not overcome it. And as the Body of Christ.
We we grieve as people who are hopeful, people with
the awareness of what we hear our God will come
and save us.

Speaker 10 (31:36):
The light was shining in the darkness, and the darkness
comprehends not Caroline Wren. There's something not right about this
thing in Brown. And you got to understand. This young
woman was a vice president of the College Republican Club,
the Republican Club, but was known as being very conservative right.

(31:58):
In fact, some people got in trouble saying and stuff
on social media, basic stuff. But Brown is such a
radical left. Brown is by far orders of magnitude, the
most far left student faculty, and student body in the
IVY League. And she stood tall. There's all types of
chat going around, etc. That the campus police and the

(32:19):
authorities are thinking that this may be a targeted assassination
on someone.

Speaker 16 (32:24):
Man.

Speaker 11 (32:26):
This hits close to home for me.

Speaker 8 (32:28):
I got my start in politics with the College Republicans
at Auburn University in Alabama. And so this beautiful young
girl from Mountain Brook, Alabama, you got her dream to
go to an IVY League school, Brown University, and she
was viciously gunned down on campus along with eleven other
students two of butch are now dead on Brown University's
campus and this shooting happened.

Speaker 11 (32:49):
Forty eight hours ago. So far, we have zero information
on the suspect.

Speaker 8 (32:53):
We have one video of essentially a blog walking down
an unidentified street. And what is amazing like Brown is
a private Ivy League school. It costs nearly one hundred
thousand dollars a year to attend, and somehow a mass
man walked into the lecture hall shot eleven students that
were there studying for their finals, then walked out, and

(33:14):
there is no video footage, like where are the.

Speaker 11 (33:17):
Cameras at Brown University? How are we? This is unbelievable.

Speaker 8 (33:20):
There's eleven thousand or so students at Brown University. I
think less than one percent identify as conservative, which puts
the number somewhere around ninety two students. And somehow the
vice president of the College Republicans died in this shooting.

Speaker 11 (33:33):
It makes it very hard to believe that this was
not targeted.

Speaker 8 (33:36):
And why we don't know much about this also is
because no one in the media is talking about it.
I saw one report that said the shooter that some
of the students in the lecture hall said that the
shooter yelled ali uakbar over opening fire. Then some people
say that isn't true. How hard is it to confirm that?
I mean, like, did he yell that or not? You
had a room full of ninety students in a lecture hall,

(33:56):
So like, at a basic level, could we just confirm that,
because that might explain the motive here. And you know,
this comes on the heels of the FBI today announcing
that they thwart and thank god, a planned terrorist bombing
in Los Angeles on New Year's Eve by pro Palestine group.

Speaker 11 (34:12):
But apparently the media they don't care.

Speaker 3 (34:14):
All.

Speaker 8 (34:14):
They don't want to talk about the mass murder that
just happened at Brown University or the terrorist plot that
they're just thwarted.

Speaker 11 (34:19):
In Los Angeles.

Speaker 8 (34:20):
All they want to talk about is the rhetoric around
Donald Trump's post about some movie director Rob Reiner that
I've never heard of, who was murdered by his coped
oubt deranged, drug addicted son that he raised in Hollywood.

Speaker 11 (34:32):
So it's not even that shocking of a story.

Speaker 8 (34:34):
And so I just I don't want to talk about
the movie mogul that was killed. I want to talk
about Ella Cook, the nineteen year old the beautiful young
girl from Mountain Brook, Alabama, the Christian leader of the
only conservative group on campus, that was just shot in
the face. And some reports are saying that, why aren't

(34:55):
we discussing that? That is what I want to be
talking about right now.

Speaker 10 (34:59):
Why is a you know Cash, I understand they're busy,
they got stuff going on. They just rolled up this
group in LA. But when you see the mayor and
you see the chief of police and the Canis Police,
it's Keystone cops. Cash and Bongino should take this one
over and they should be at the microphones, tell us
what happened, and we should have daily updates. I mean,
it's kind of stunning a guy somebody can walk in

(35:20):
on a study session because this was a called study
session to get ready for finals. It's not like a
regular class. Hell, it's a Saturday afternoon. How many college
kids are in class on a Saturday afternoon. Something happened
and got this guy there. We don't know anything about it,
and it's just it's just the laws of probability. When
you have a known, very conservative young woman that's VP

(35:42):
of the Republic has gone out of her way not
to be controversial, but to help people that are getting
dragged and ratioed on social media, and she's known as
kind of a safe space. That's how brave she is.
That she's gunned down and shot in the face. And
it's just too random, right, it doesn't make sense. Maybe
it is, but we got to get there. And you're right,

(36:02):
I don't even want to put the picture up in
such a joke. I thought I was a parodying with something.
It's across a parking lot and it's a little black
thing walking around that's dressed up for winner with nothing,
and they don't have any explanation. This is like the
Keystone cops running this. Is it not Caroline Red?

Speaker 11 (36:19):
Yeah it is. I mean this is part of the part.

Speaker 8 (36:21):
Like Providence, Rhode Island is notable, is small, and so
but their police forces who is running this cash has
come out and said that the FBI out of Boston
is coming into assist, but technically, you know, they don't
have jurisdiction over it unless it's conproven its domestic terrorists
or that the suspect cross state lines, and so I
think having the Providence police though lead this is kind
of cre They've proven that.

Speaker 11 (36:42):
I think it's it's too small, and that the FBI does.

Speaker 8 (36:44):
Need to come in and really take this over, but
the governor has to request that, and so I'm hoping
that that happens soon because I don't believe that this
is just some random attack.

Speaker 11 (36:53):
It there's a pattern of these attacks.

Speaker 8 (36:55):
Three months ago we watched as Charlie Kurk got assassinated
on live television, and then President Trump has had two
assassination attempts against his life. More than half the Cabinet
and White House staff have all had to move on
to military bases due to the threats against their lives.
I mean, Alina Habba and Ed Martin have both been attacked.
Steven and Katie Miller had to move out of their
home because left wing lunatics were riding in chalk every

(37:17):
morning on their driveway death threats. A left wing sniper
just murdered three people at an ice facility in Texas.
We just had two National Guards troops gunned down in DC.

Speaker 11 (37:27):
I mean, I can go on and on, but.

Speaker 8 (37:29):
Like there's a pattern here, and it is a pattern
of left wing violence against Conservatives, against Christians, and we
have got to stop it. And this takes the FBI's
full and present attention, not some coked out movie son's
murder mystery plot taking place in Los Angeles right now.

Speaker 10 (37:48):
Don't care, Caroline Run, Where do people go? You're putting
stuff up on social media about this. Where do people go?

Speaker 8 (37:55):
It's at Caroline Ran on Twitter, Getter and truth social.

Speaker 10 (38:01):
Thank you man.

Speaker 9 (38:01):
I appreciate you, Thank you.

Speaker 10 (38:05):
You know, the Rouber under thing is obviously horrific to
have your son and they pulled bail was four million
dollars to have your son come in on a Sunday
Sunday and slit your throat and then kill you your
wife that have tried to care for this guy, and
he's got drug problems, et cetera. But whatever the president says,
the president's going to say, that doesn't in this whole
media firestorm. You're not covering the most important stories in

(38:26):
the country. Once again, it's Trump derangement syndrome. The signal
in the noise. And this is outrageous because people get
this thing in Providence does not make any sense at all. None.
There's been no explanation. It doesn't seem like anybody competence
on top of it. So I get to tell you
it's just like what happened in Savannah, and Savanna had

(38:48):
the acid attack, and there's you know, there's stumbling around
down there. These are patterns. You can see what's happening here.
They're going after Christians, they're going after Conservatives, and unless
you fight back, it's going to continue. David Malpass, you
join us, and you gave us a kind of a
headline of what was going to happen here. We got

(39:09):
about a minute before we go to break the holding through.
This piece of the Wall Street Journals very powerful because
I kind of read it is that the Fed is
going to be a constant headwind. They're going to kind
of work against the Trump growth plan. Is that the
way to take it that the more President Trump and
the Secretary Treasury try to work towards growth a supply side,

(39:30):
you've got this kind of countervailing structural wind that's going
to be thwarting our growth. Is that correct?

Speaker 9 (39:38):
That's right.

Speaker 17 (39:39):
The system is set up with models Steve where they
think that growth causes inflation, so they ought to tamp
down growth with high interest rates, and that's getting locked in. Well,
it's been locked into the system for a long time.
It fights and fights against growth and the huge which

(40:00):
problem is the economic community really believes in it. They
think that they can measure inflation, that they can measure
the amount of money and control of it within the economy,
and it hasn't been working. Look at the huge jumps
in inflation that we had in the Biden administration. So
I'm afraid they're doing it again. This time they'll fight

(40:22):
against growth as we go into twenty twenty six.

Speaker 10 (40:26):
This is bad stick around David Okay, this is the
opinion piece. But where the trap of demand side economics?
David Malpass ask why are faster economic growth forecast a
reason not to cut rates? They'll explain it all to us.
One of the central issues of twenty twenty six economic

(40:47):
growth and inflation. Next, we will fight till the god
we originally.

Speaker 3 (40:56):
Let's stick down.

Speaker 9 (41:00):
Here's your host, Stephen K.

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I want everybody to read this piece and thank you
and thanks. I want thank to Wall Street Journal for
putting up Trump's invest in's theory, the case in yours

(42:53):
and Steve Moore and Arthur Laffer and everybody's worked on this.
A supply sid tax cut, right, is supposed to bring
capital in for production. You're actually saying with this demand
side that they've got a blocking function. The more we
try to have growth, the more they're going to fight
us with no rate cuts, and you're never going to
get the full growth you could have the three and
a half four, four and a half five percent growth.

(43:15):
Am I correct in thinking that that we got to
this is going to be a permanent headwind sir?

Speaker 9 (43:20):
That's right.

Speaker 17 (43:21):
I think it extends all the way out into twenty seven.
They've got a lock on the board of the Federal Reserve.
But think about it, if the country is doing well,
shouldn't we have lower interest rates, not higher interest rates,
And not just in the short end, but in the
long end. As well, that that'd be mortgage rates should

(43:41):
be coming down if the country is doing well, but
that's not the way the models work.

Speaker 10 (43:47):
The fed's models are entrenched.

Speaker 17 (43:50):
So they actually have the idea of there being an
output gap that if the economy is growing faster than
it should, then you should raise raise They also have
failed models on inflation, So let's look at that. If
people's wages are going up, you're going to see it
in the price of services that gets picked up in

(44:13):
the FEDS models on inflation, and they hike the rates
to squelch the wage hikes that are going on. So
it fights against exactly the outcomes that we're trying to get.
That's why it's called a demand side model. And what
I've advocated all along with all the people you mentioned,
is a supply side model that's built on defending the

(44:35):
dollar and letting interest rates come down so that people
can grow at the bottom end of the income curve.
We want the short rates down for small businesses, but
we also want the long rates down for mortgages, and
that's not going to happen under their current models.

Speaker 10 (44:52):
So clearly A Paul Gijou and the team over at
the Wall street journals that are tour page which are
no fans of the warm We're not fans of theirs,
but that's okay. We respect them, we don't like them
or don't think we think they're wrong. But they must
be concerned about this also because they kind of gave
you prime property today. What's the thinking behind the scenes
of the brains in the business press, So they concerned

(45:13):
about this. Also because since they've given you such great
coverage of this.

Speaker 17 (45:18):
I think there's confusion in the economics community, so people
get tangled up. And that's what I was writing about today.
I guess it'll be in the journal maybe tomorrow morning,
but it's online now and people can find it by
googling Malpass WSJ and you see quite a bit of
what I've written, and I'm grateful to them for giving

(45:40):
me space to talk about this. The economics community is
way over on the other side. They think everything's going fine.
I've written this over and over again that they think
inflation targeting has worked, and you look back on the
thirty years of history of the United States and it
doesn't work it at all.

Speaker 10 (46:00):
But they don't get it.

Speaker 17 (46:01):
They don't want to change the model because they all
got their PhDs based on that model.

Speaker 10 (46:07):
David, where do people go on social media to get you?
You're putting up great stuff all the time, and I
do want to thank the Wall Street Journal to for
giving you such a big amount of space to work
this problem. It's a big problem. It's going to be
got to be worked out. So where do people go?
I'm x at David R.

Speaker 17 (46:23):
Malpass, or you can google Malpass WSJ.

Speaker 10 (46:27):
Just put it into the.

Speaker 17 (46:28):
Google banner and the articles pop up and they show
you what's wrong with the models.

Speaker 10 (46:35):
Thank you, sir. Look forward to drilling down this had
me back on David Malpass, former heir of the World
Bank and a senior member of President Trump's first Treasury Department.
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