March 11, 2025 • 48 mins
Segment 1: The Infamous Trump Scene in White Lotus | Alex Clark and Jobob Discuss
Segment 2: TikTok, Gender Gap, and Trans-insanity
Segment 3: The Disturbing Truth About Your Chicken
Segment 4: A Great Thing about Marriage
Segment 5: Charlie Kirk and Ben Shapiro
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Speaker 1 (00:07):
President Trump talks TikTok. Is there a deal in the
work to get the biggest social media platform sold? The
BLM sidewalk or BLM plaza in Washington, DC is coming down.
Find out how much that stupid thing costs the taxpayers. Also,
are people going to homeschool more than they have been
in the past whilst numbers are climbing and the well,
(00:30):
I wonder why that is? All that and more coming
up on this episode of Turning Point Tonight. My name
is Jobobin. Together we are charting the course of America's
cultural comeback. Thanks so much for tuning in. This is
Turning Point Tonight. Just a reminder, you can all email
the show. We had an email open last week and
it was fantastic reading from a number of you. So
tpt at TPUSA dot com if you have any thoughts,
(00:52):
comments or criticisms. If they're abhorrent and bigoted and terrible,
there's a likelihood that we'll read them on this show.
So do TBT at TPUSA dot com. What we have
to talk about today, I think is fascinating. We have
Alex Clark who's going to be joining us in just
a quick second. But I want to set this up
a lot of people, especially watching this show. I don't
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think watched the show that we're going to talk about.
But here's why I think it's important. There's a show
called White Lotus on HBO or Max or whatever the
heck they call their streaming service nowadays that is massively popular.
It's not so much in the conservative world, which is
why I think we need to talk about it, but
it has a huge impact on society as a whole.
(01:38):
The other week, last week, specifically, there was an episode
of White Lotus in which one of the characters came
out as a Trump supporter. Oh no, I thought it
was fascinating watching it, and I'm sure Alex has some
commentary and some insight on that as well. So without
further doo, let's bring in Alex Clark, host of Turning Points,
(01:58):
Cultural Apothetic, Culture Culture Apothecary. Alex, I don't know why
I keep wanting to say culture role, but Culture Apothecary
podcast one of the biggest, fastest growing podcasts on the
Internet streams at the moment. Alex, thanks for joining us, Thank.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
You for having me. I love White Lotus, so any
excuse to talk about it is good with me exactly.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
Yeah, So let's do this. Let's play this clip. We'll
watch it. It's rather long, it's ninety seconds, and we
will discuss the moment when one of the main characters
comes out as a well kind of as a as
a Trump supporter. Watched this, and we'll discuss.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
I get a lot out of going to church.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
I just I love the people.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
It's very moving. I didn't know.
Speaker 4 (02:45):
You went to church.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Oh yeah, we go every Sunday.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
Yeah, ever since we moved to Austin. Is it like
a real text and church, like the Bible? Fumbers?
Speaker 4 (02:56):
And well?
Speaker 3 (02:57):
The people are you know, more conservative than like LA
people or like New York?
Speaker 2 (03:06):
Is that weird for you?
Speaker 1 (03:08):
Why would it be weird?
Speaker 3 (03:12):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
If I was just around a bunch of Texans who
voted for Trump, I guess.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
I just feel a little alienated. They're nice people, really
good families.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
Cool, But you ever talk politics about them sometimes.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
I'm gonna get awkward.
Speaker 5 (03:32):
Why would it?
Speaker 6 (03:33):
Because wait, are you a Republican?
Speaker 3 (03:40):
No, I'm an independent?
Speaker 7 (03:44):
But Davis.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
An independent?
Speaker 2 (03:50):
Hm?
Speaker 3 (03:51):
Since when you didn't vote for Trump?
Speaker 4 (03:54):
Though?
Speaker 1 (03:54):
Did you?
Speaker 3 (04:01):
Are we really going to talk about Trump tonight?
Speaker 8 (04:06):
Real? Good?
Speaker 1 (04:07):
Yeah? I thought it was a fascinating change. Alice. I'll
let you you go off on any thoughts you have,
and then I got a couple questions for you.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
So the whole premise of this show is like, you're
going to a really wealthy resort and you have this
spotlight into all these different families or groups on vacation,
and just like the problems that are within these different
groups and how they play out over the course of
their vacation. So every season kind of focuses on new characters.
This group of three friends who have been friends since
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like high school or college or something and haven't really
spent much time together as adults is a really interesting
one because there are all these adult women who kind
of are re getting to know each other, and there's
a lot of gossiping about each other behind their backs,
and obviously they don't know that their one friend may
have voted for Trump in the last election. And I
think it's really resonating with people all over because gosh,
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haven't we all been in a situation like this? Now?
What's funny is that there's some relief when they're like, well,
you and you you're not a Republican, are you? Vote, well,
I'm an independent. You know. They're like, oh, it has
even worse to them because it's like, oh, you can't
choose just to side. But I think it's interesting because
you see the Democrat women there, they're conflicted because it's like,
(05:17):
wait a minute, we know this girl, we love this girl,
we know that she's a good person, and yet she
was able to potentially vote for Trump. Like what does
that say about all Trump supporters?
Speaker 1 (05:27):
Right?
Speaker 2 (05:27):
And I think that's this like weird turn of events
that happens with a lot of people when you find
out that your close friends or family vote for Trump,
you know, God forbid. Then it's like, oh, well, maybe
what I know or have been told about Trump supporters
is it necessarily true?
Speaker 1 (05:42):
Yeah? You know what also is interesting, Well, first things first,
on the independent thing, I think we all know what
that means. When someone says I'm an independent, They're they're
a conservative. They're just not exactly ready to share that
in the open. So that's fine. Uh, this is what
I thought was fascinating and not to dig too far
into this this show, but the two other girlfriends, one
is divorced and kind of struggling living in New York,
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the other ones lives in la and is an actress
and married some guy who's twenty years younger than her.
Interestingly enough, you know, we don't know a ton about
the characters, but the character that is the Trump supporter
is married with kids and seems to have their lives
kind of together already. Would do you think that that's
going to kind of stay consistent over the next course
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of the next couple episodes?
Speaker 2 (06:27):
Oh my gosh, Well, this is obviously this was like
a huge bomb to drop in this friend group. So
I'm very excited to see now what is going to happen,
because it isn't only those two ganging up on the
Trump Supporter. All of them have been talking about each
other behind each other's backs, so it's like, we don't
know where the true alliance is actually lie. But if
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you've never watched White Lotus, I mean, it's such a
fun show because you just kind of get to be
a fly on the wall for people's secret problems and they,
you know, on the outside, look like they have it
all together, but they're really falling apart. And that's what
makes this show so good and why it's won so
many awards.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
So just so people know how big of a deal
the show is. Nine point three million people on average
watched every episode in season one. That jump to fifteen
point five million for season two on average per episode.
You don't get more than a couple million on any
real given TV show ever anymore, So fifteen point five
million is a huge number. Zoom out app passed the
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show a little bit. And I'm curious your take, because
you've been in this cultural world for a really long time.
What that clip said to me was kind of a
statistical evidence of well, conservatives generally have way more liberal
friends than liberals have conservative friends. You kind of being
in the artsy world, in the cultural world, can you
(07:45):
kind of talk about your experience kind of in that vein.
I'm sure you've got lefty friends, but I'm curious, do
you think your lefty friends have conservative friends outside of you?
Speaker 3 (07:55):
No, No, they definitely don't.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
And whats like so in that clip alone, Joe, that
woman who is the Trump supporter, she knew obviously going
into it that her friends were Democrats. She had no
problem with it. They are the ones who brought this
up and were like confused, like, oh, you go to church.
Wait a minute, you didn't vote for Trump, did you?
And then they were all like super you know, concerned
about it, and she was like, oh yeah, like we're
just having a dinner, like no big deal, you know.
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To her, it didn't matter that they had different views,
but you can see how to the liberal friends it
greatly mattered.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
But yeah, I would.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
Say, you know, what's interesting is that before the MAHA movement,
the Make America Healthy Again movement, which I'm a part of,
all of my friends that would be more liberal kind
of dropped me. And then a lot of them started
to kind of flock back in this last election because
so many people like her voted independent or something or
ended up voting for Trump based on the MAHA topic.
(08:46):
And so now they're kind of like all in on
my show and what I talk about on a day
to day basis, and they're like, well, you know, I
don't know that I agree with Alex on everything, but
I definitely agree with her on the health stuff. So
they're all coming back around. It's so interesting how different
already Trump admin this time around is compared to before
the Trump presidency. This time around compared to before, it's like,
I mean, what seventy something percent of the country voted
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for Trump. So statistically, yeah, any big group dinner with
friends or family, you're gonna have a lot of Trump
supporters there, whether they're admitting it to you or not.
And likely a lot of them are probably pretending like
they didn't and they totally did, because otherwise, I don't know,
you couldn't explain the numbers in this election.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
Yeah, no, I that's that is fantastic to watch unfold
in front of our own eyes. Speaking of the Trump administration,
there's been talks for a while now in conservative movements
about getting rid of the Department of Education, to which
a bunch of the Libs are screaming about of oh no,
this is terrible, But the Trump administration is talking about
getting rid of the Department of Education. Government schools have
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been failing upwards of for the last several decades. The
numbers about homeschoolers are coming out and over the last
several years, obviously COVID played a big factor in at
but have been rising consistently up to the expected twenty
to twenty four numbers are going to be about three
point seven million students. School age students are likely to
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be homeschooled in the country. Seventy two percent of people
who say their homeschool and the kids are dissatisfied with
the academic instruction and traditional school seventy five percent want
to provide more moral instruction. Alex what does it look
like over the next decade of parents who are choosing
to homeschool their kids instead of entrust them into the
government woke schools.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
Well, first of all, I hope we start seeing, you know,
really really smart kids kind of taking jobs and having
a better sense of independence and grasp on adulthood. What
we've seen in this last generation are kids who are
terrified to start driving as teenagers. They don't want to
move out of their parents' house. It's just this weird
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like Peter Pan syndrome, never growing up that we're seeing
from today's young people. This has got to stop. Were
this country cannot survive if that's what's going on. And
I would say, as far as the learning environment that
we've kind of cultivated over the years in American public schools,
if you were to take a plant and put it
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in the same environment that we are expecting kids to
thrive and learn in a public school setting, that plant
would die hardly. Any sunlight, no nutrient dense foods or water,
you know, the tap water that we're we're letting them
get out of the water fountains there, you know, filled
with arsenic and birth control and fluoride. It's absolutely horrific
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the conditions that we're putting kids in. And then we're
saying like, okay, now you need to perform. And also,
as a child, doesn't come naturally to you to sit
six or seven hours a day straight and not talk
and not move, but like God forbid, you can't do
any of that. And if you do, then we're going
to put you on a bunch of prescription drugs that's
going to start a lifelong treadmill of drug prescriptions for
you and start getting you medicalized at a younger and
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younger age. So it's really disturb And the thing is
is that all of these people that are pooping their
pants and crying about the Department of Education being defunded,
I'm sorry, but like, has it really been successful? Half
of American students cannot read, so they can't read, they
can't write. The academic mathematics scores are plumbing, so these
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kids are not learning. I mean, the data shows that
they're not learning, so what are they doing in there
all day? Basically they're just sitting there and being told
to be quiet, and their behavior is they're trying to
correct their behavior. We have to get back to a
country where we're allowing kids to be kids. Kids, especially
very very young kids learn when they're playing, they need
to be outside. They need to be eating real food,
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they need to be getting sunlight. They need to stay
off screens that are melting their brains and making it
so they cannot focus on anything. We've got iPad brain
rot through the roof. So there's a lot of things
that are working against American kids. I really really feel
strongly that if more parents, and I think a lot
of parents would be really open to homeschooling Joe Bob.
But the problem is is that it's been kind of
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indoctrinated into American parents that it's really hard to do,
or you have to have, you know, a certain level
of education to do it yourself, or that you have
to be a stay at home parent in order to
do it. There are so many groups that exist right now,
and homeschool co ops and things that are literally helping
parents who are single parents. Homeschool who are both working
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parents who are poor. The average homeschooling family is making
I mean, I believe it's under sixty thousand dollars a year.
This idea that you have to be like rich and
wealthy in a stay at home mom, that's just absolutely
not true. You can do it. And the cool thing
about homeschool is because it's not supposed to mimic school
at home. You're supposed to be able to create your
own schedule and kind of go with the flow of
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your child and their interests. So you can make your
schedule as you know, intense as you want, or only
two hours a day. Really, your kid's only learning about
two hours a day anyway, and then the rest can
be spent exploring and doing things as a family learning
in those situations.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
Yeah, I couldn't agree with you more on pretty much
all of that. Just to statistically, despite concerns, eighty seven
percent of studies suggests that positive social outcomes for homeschool
kids as well as ninety eight percent of them find
at least five extracurricular activities, So that whole notion slash
stigma seems to be put to bed pretty quickly, especially
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when you factor in all the statistics. Alex Clark, host
of Culture Apothecary, check it out wherever. Alex. Really appreciate
you taking the time to come on.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
Thank you so much. Hey, anytime you want to talk
homeschool or raw milk or anything, just come listen to
my show and that's all.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
We talk about. Awesome, Alex, thank you so much, appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
Coming up we talk masculinity is among many other things.
And also check in with Turning Points White House Correspondent
Monica Page at the White House. Don't go away, We'll
be right back after this. Welcome back to Turning Point tonight.
It is time to check in with Turning Points White
(15:06):
House Correspondent Monica Page, as she joins us on you know,
in my opinion, a somber day. The BLM Plaza in Washington,
d C. Is going bye bye. Tell us a little
bit about that. And we were just talking briefly before
this how it all kind of came into play. Can
you explain that for a guess at our viewers at home.
Speaker 8 (15:26):
Yeah, sure, Joe, Bob, great to be with you as always.
I mean, it's a very historic day. Some say, you know,
it's an end of an era after four and a
half years of having BLM Plaza for about two blocks
here right across the street from the White House here
in d C. I mean, it's completely going away. I
mean we saw construction workers this morning tearing it up.
But the reason why that it is the way it is.
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I mean it was okayed and got the green light
from DC Mural DC Mayor Miro Bowser. The reason why
is because in Congress there was Congressman Georgia Congressman Andrew
Clyde he put forth him seventeen seventy four which basically said,
this BLM mural that you have here is pretty divisive
and if you keep it up, we're gonna pull all
your federal funding. So either you pull the either you
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pulled that mural out, or we're gonna stop giving you
federal funds. So this is what mural Bowser okayed, the
murals coming out, and I think within the next six
to eight weeks we could see it completely paved over
and we could see the square being renamed to Liberty
Plaza or Freedom Plaza at that that that.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
Yeah, it is interesting because it was the mayor of
DC that preemptively took this down because people should know
this from civics class. Washington, DC is not its own entity,
that everything they do is controlled by Congress because it
is a district not a state. And interestingly enough, listen
to this. The cost estimates for the BLM plaza reportedly
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cost four point eight million dollars for construction, including durable
paint and a bunch of other nonsense, and an additional
three three million dollars invested for benches, lighting, signage, all
that sort of stuff, bringing the cost for the bil
And Plaza close to eight million dollars of taxpayer money.
Holy cow, that's that's very expensive, Ana, Yeah, yeah, right,
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Anything else going on at the White House specifically today
that outside of this, you know, this just devastating day
for her BLM and those communists over there that run
that organization. Anything else going on at the White House.
Speaker 8 (17:32):
I mean, we were off to a pretty strong start here.
I mean we have seen the creation of the CBP
home app over the weekend now being put into place today,
which essentially allows it legal aliens to declare that they're
leaving the country. We remember, under the Biden administration they
had the CBP one app, which basically fast tractors legal
status to citizenship, but it came with a lot of issues.
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I mean, the app was crashing, they were tech issues.
But President Trump, after signing that executive order about immigration
and basically deporting those criminals, they implemented CDP home, which
means you're going to go back or you're going to
face harsh consequences. So a really strong start heading into
this week. We also know President Trump signing an executive
order today as well. It's about disaster relief, and it
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basically says that these local states and jurisdictions have complete
power and are in the driver's seat anytime catastrophe strikes
in the region, leaving the states completely up to power,
so they don't have to rely on federal funding like
FEMA to deal with things. And we know that FEMA
slow walks a lot of that aid. When you saw
in North Carolina and California as well, also Hawaii, East Palestine,
you name it, FEMA really slow walked a lot of
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that kind of stuff. So President Trump's living it up
to the states. He's also swearing in his Secret Service
Director Sean Kurran this afternoon. He's also holding a round table,
a tech round table with all these CEOs talk about
tariffs since in national security. So a lot on the
president's plate today and definitely going to be a lot
on the president's plate as the rest of the week
plays out.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
Yeah, awesome. That sounds like there's a lot that's about
to come out of the White House over the course
in the next couple of days. We will check in
tomorrow seeing you know what else is topping the news
of the day coming out of the White House. Monica
Page turning Points, White House Correspondent, thanks so much for
joining us.
Speaker 8 (19:09):
Oh, it's great to be with you. Joe Bob, thanks so.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
Much, Monica Page turning Points, White House Correspondent, Always a
pleasure to talk to. Let's bring in another guest to
talk about what Trump is talking about with TikTok, some
of the trans stuff that Doge is uncovering. Brayden Soorbo
joins us from West Palm Beach. You may recognize the name,
and if you can put that together, you know, good
(19:31):
on you. Son of Hercules and is as tall as
that to begin with, but also a big time power
player in his own right. Brandon, you got what two
million TikTok followers? Almost? Yeah, Well, first of all, thanks,
thanks for coming on. Really appreciate you taking the time.
But second, as a big time TikToker, President Trump said
that there's about four different people possibly looking at a
(19:54):
deal to purchase TikTok from the Chinese Communist Party owned
Byte Dance. What would that mean for you the TikTok
community as a whole. What are your thoughts on that
deal possibly getting done.
Speaker 4 (20:08):
I see it as a potential. I mean, China obviously
doesn't want to just give up control of this massive
money maker and you know, data mining machine that they have,
but it did go into effect that ban for what
fourteen hours or so, and so they saw that the
United States was actually willing to play ball, and that
kind of put them on their heels a little bit.
And so I, for one, I love the fact that
(20:29):
TikTok gave me the platform that I have, but I
also don't love the app itself just because it's China.
So well, I can be grateful to have the start
that I did on TikTok. I can see the value
in protecting American citizens.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
Yeah, totally. For those who don't know, Congress passed a
law that was supposed to take effect to January nineteenth,
President Trump signed an executive order delaying at seventy five
days for the enforcement of that law. People think it's
valued at fifty billion. Of the people that can afford
fifty billion, they're really not many, Britain. Do you have
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any thoughts on who might be coming in. Mister Beast
has expressed interest. Some of the other big tech company
guys are talking that they might participate, Jeff Bezos, Zuckerberg,
all the kind of the usual suspects. You know what,
could there be a difference depending on who it ultimately
goes to if President Trump is able to actually solidify
(21:23):
this deal.
Speaker 4 (21:24):
See' that's the biggest problem, is it. It's gonna be
the same thing as Facebook, in which case, okay, great,
Now an American company is just stealing all my data,
So how much better is it really? You know, it's
kind of like the double edged sword. I've seen people
like mister Beasts, Kevin O'Leary, Rachel Matt No, sorry, Mark Cuban.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
I always get them confused throw their names into the hat.
Speaker 4 (21:45):
I would be surprised if Elon Musk wasn't interested in
buying TikTok simply to essentially throw it out because he
wants X to be the number one platform and TikTok
is a big competitor when it comes to video making.
But I wouldn't be surprised if Trump was able to
kind of set a deal in place with someone like
mister Beast or mister wonderful Kevin O'Leary with his whole
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group kind of conglomerate of people. And I suppose it
might be somewhat better than the regular Chinese byte dance
company owning it, but not by much, not by a
great margin.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
Yeah, that's you know, conservatives are really kind of split
on this whole TikTok issue. Obviously, there's the you know,
the algorithm part of it, where it's like, all right, well,
are we gonna let one of our biggest enemies put
what is in front of the screen for millions and
millions of young adults. And also there's a free speech
element to it. So it's a big, whole complicated thing.
It'll be really interesting to see if President Trump can
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get a deal struck with whoever it is that is
looking to purchase the app. I want to move on
to this. This is effectively a TikTok, you know, in
the format This is a clip from Andrew Schulz, and
again this really applies to you as authoring a book
Embrace Masculinity. Watch this clip and we'll discuss on the
other side. I told my wife, was like, listen, if
you want to choose the gender, we can choose a gender.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
Okay, I'm just letting you know.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
Now, whatever gender we choose, it's gonna stay that one.
Speaker 3 (23:07):
They're not coming back here.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
Fifteen years later, I identifzed I got paperwork on.
Speaker 3 (23:13):
I spent thirty grand on a boy.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
I'm getting a foe.
Speaker 3 (23:17):
You want to be a girl, you owe me thirty grand.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
I raised you better than you stealed from me. Let
you buy your freedom with thirty grands.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
You better go out there and get a job. That's what
you better do.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
I recommend getting the job as a man because women
make twenty five percent less.
Speaker 8 (23:30):
But listen, this is the time.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
I hope you're ready. I love that. Yeah, you know,
if you're gonna if you're gonna go through the whole process,
pay all that money and get a boy, gonna stay
a boy. I'm pretty your thoughts.
Speaker 4 (23:45):
I've always said that it's it's a man's duty, right,
Like you said the book Embrace Masculinity. I'll throw it
up right here, and it's behind me as well. It's
always a man's job, especially as a father, to take
care of your family. And so what Andrew's doing brilliantly
is poking fun at the narrative that the left where
men don't essentially matter. I mean, there was a post
I saw a little while ago of a guy who
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had a daughter, and his daughter came to him said Dad,
I'm transgender. I'm going to become a boy. And the
dad goes, oh my gosh, so am I I'm going
to be a girl. And he essentially made fun of
it so much to the point where he was showing
up in poorly pick up his daughter from school and
being so embarrassing that this trend sort of died out
in the family. And now the daughter is a happy
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teenage girl living her life as she should. And so Andrew,
with his comedic timing, is brilliant in poking fun at
what the left is doing with the transgender movement, because
it's incredibly true.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
You know, it is boy or boy.
Speaker 4 (24:39):
I posted International Women's Day was a couple days ago,
and I said, Happy International Women's Day.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
By the way, what is a woman?
Speaker 4 (24:45):
Because so many people can't seem to figure out the
difference between xx and x Y chromosomes, And that's just
the only way that we can really sort of poke
fun through it because science doesn't matter to the leftists,
and so comedy is really going to strike a nerve.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
Yeah, it's the best way to throw that in there is,
you know, make fun of it and mock it and
it goes away, which I think we're actually doing a
pretty good job of doing, speaking of things to make
fun of and mock the Uh well, okay, this is
this is this is crazy where it was coming from,
but it was also it's also crazy just in and
of itself. Let me explain that the US Department of
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Agriculture canceled a grant were six hundred thousand dollars to
study the menstrual cycles of transgender men. Secretary Brook Rawlins
said on Friday, six hundred thousand dollars was going to
studying the mentoral cycles of women, which I think we
actually know quite a bit about already. But these women
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specifically dress up like dudes and pretend so that I
guess warrants another half million dollars. I don't know, it's
what are your thoughts.
Speaker 4 (25:54):
I was really concerned when hearing you say that and
reading the article for the first time, because I was going, Okay, wait,
are they studying men who think they're women? Because if
you're a guy and you're bleeding down there, you should
probably get it checked out. That's not a menstrual cycle,
that's probably cancer. Like, don't you know, don't don't fall
into that trap. But it's so true. This this absurd
amount of money that we're wasting. Why do we need
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more money thrown at something that we're already spending money
studying Just because these women take testosterone and try to
grow out a beard, we need to allocate over half
a million dollars for them. Frankly say, I live in
a house with two women, my sister and my mom.
I don't ask questions. It's not my it's not my business.
Speaker 3 (26:31):
I don't need to know.
Speaker 4 (26:33):
All I know is okay, they might be a little
bit more moody or grumpy today.
Speaker 3 (26:37):
I'm just gonna steer clear.
Speaker 4 (26:38):
You know, Hey, Mom, you want me to make you
dinner because that'll keep me safe And that's all I
really care about.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
Oh man, dude, that's uh that's I'm gonna because I'm married,
I'm not gonna condone those remarks. But I do know
somebody who looks a lot like me that may a
man not agree with you. Brady Sorbo, author of Embrace Masculine,
thanks so much for joining us. Really appreciate you taking
the time.
Speaker 3 (27:03):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
Coming up, we had a great clip from the Alex
Clark culture Apothecary, who you just heard from in the
first segment. Don't go away, We'll be right back after this.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
You're challenging the status quo of factory farming. What's the
most shocking thing that you've learned about the way the
poultry industry operates today.
Speaker 7 (27:29):
The most shocking thing is that labels, by and large
like don't mean what you think.
Speaker 3 (27:35):
And that's really for the worse.
Speaker 7 (27:38):
I would say, like people are very convinced that they
understand what the labels like pasture raise means, free range, organic,
and oftentimes it's not what you would think. And I
think that when people start to understand that, it's a
bit disheartening because they're spending a lot of extra money
on this stuff. But the reality is it's just like,
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oftentimes not what you would hope it is.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
Okay, So let's go through what some of these labels mean,
Like let's talk about what is cage free, what is
free range, what is pasture rays.
Speaker 7 (28:09):
Yeah, so my disclaimer with this is like I'll explain these,
but it's no shade to the actual farmers. Like these people,
I don't care. I've I've met hundreds of them, and
they are the salt of the earth. They're good people.
Even the people doing factory farming. It's like the farmers themselves,
they're just trying to make a living man and that
that's what they know, and they're doing their best, and
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like I respect anybody who's producing food. My cut is
more like towards the marketing departments and the ivory towers
that are like, oh, let's take this and spin it
this way and call it something else. And I think
that that's where it's shocked up. So I think there's
room for everything with transparency like that. To me, that's
the important piece, Like let people decide. There's so many
people that are on such a tight budget, like they
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just need to buy the caged eggs, like that's just
what they can afford.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
But and that's still better an egg is still an
egg versus nonsensor.
Speaker 3 (29:02):
Yeah for sure. Okay, so cage free.
Speaker 7 (29:05):
For a long time, animals were, like laying chickens especially
were raised in actual cages, like six animals in a small,
little shoe box size cage. That's mostly at least in California,
Like that's mostly gone by the wayside now, so you'll
see cage free. That sort of explains all meat chickens
at least, like there are no caged meat chickens in
the US. In Europe, there actually is free range. Free
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range means the birds were free to range outside. So
take kind of like an industrial style warehouse six hundred
foot long, forty ft wide, twenty four thousand birds inside
of there. As long as those doors open, those birds
were technically free to range outside. They don't have to
go outside to be free range, but they need to
have the access to go outside. Some companies are diligent
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about it. They're putting food out there and shade and water,
and they're like actually trying to encourage the birds out.
Some companies are like, oh, we popped it open for
one minute.
Speaker 3 (29:58):
This year while the auditor was there.
Speaker 7 (30:00):
We're going to count it, you know, So it's really
company by company. The problem is chickens are prey animals.
They don't really like just running out into an open
field like your dog or a cow or something. So
unless you have a lot of reasons for them to
spend a lot of time outside, they'll stay. They're kind
of going to stay where the food and water and
their friends in this in this shade is, you know,
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so they're going to pretty much stay inside. But I
would say, like outdoor access is still better than not
having outdoor access.
Speaker 3 (30:28):
So I'm not knocking free range or anything.
Speaker 7 (30:30):
It's just some people have this picture of like chickens,
like red chickens outside running around like those.
Speaker 3 (30:35):
Not really wouldn't.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
But that is kind of the case with pasture raised,
right or not.
Speaker 7 (30:39):
Kind of, So I'll explain pasture raise too, because it's
not what a lot of people think it is either
a lot of the marketing has made us think like, oh,
there's just these fluffy chickens out on their own like
running around. Chickens just don't do that. Like if you've
been to Hawaii or Thailand, chickens are like sneaking to
this bush and then they're like running over to this
bush like they don't want to get eaten, you know,
so they want to stay protect did they want to
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stay close to their buddies. So in a true pasture
ray system, usually it's like Joel's Place, so that you
have some kind of a protective shade structure that gives them,
you know, a way to get out of the rain
and the sun. And then it's a floorless structure, so
you're moving that structure because they want to be close
to their food and water and shade. The important thing
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is like you got to move that structure and then
the birds.
Speaker 3 (31:22):
Move with it.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
And you guys are doing that every day.
Speaker 3 (31:24):
Every single day, and that's really important.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
You're in national grocery stores and you're able to move
all this every day.
Speaker 7 (31:30):
Yeah, but that's a lot of innovation, and like a
lot of what we spent the last six years on
is how do we like automate that, how do we
build like everything has to be on solar because we're
on these farms out in the middle of nowhere in
the state of Georgia, so we can't just like plug
it in and drive it, you know, how do we
do it all automated so we're not like sitting there
like moving in our cell. Like Joel's system is awesome
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and it's really labor intensive. Yeah, he has interns and
apprentices and all this stuff, so.
Speaker 3 (31:55):
He can kind of do it.
Speaker 7 (31:56):
But at our scale, I mean, we're way beyond what
he's doing, so we have to have a way to
automate all that stuff. That we call it the Automated
Range Coup. It's this really cool invention that we feel
like is like challenging the status quo. And it's like
it's like a place for the birds to actually grow.
But it's on wheels and it moves every single day,
so it's a.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
Totally it moves on its own. Yeah, drive it or what.
Speaker 3 (32:17):
It drives itself. It's like it's like the largest electric
vehicle in the world.
Speaker 1 (32:21):
How much that costs.
Speaker 7 (32:23):
It's probably a small apartment in Phoenix for each one.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
That's wild, but it has these.
Speaker 3 (32:30):
Huge benefits for the chicken and for the land.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
Is it possible for other farms to be able to
duplicate what you guys are doing.
Speaker 7 (32:37):
Oh, there's a thousand small farms doing it for real
at different scales, So like Joel's would be the small
scale where you have like eighty birds inside of a
little thing that you pull by hand. There's a lot
of farms that do a greenhouse that they pull with
a tractor, and there's us doing it at like the
large scale for pasture rays, which is these huge six
thousand birds systems that are driving themselves. I mean, anybody
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can do it. There's no protection, there's nothing stopping you.
But the problem is there's kind of no reason to
do it because that pasture raise label can be slapped
on by people in a free range system, like up
until very recently, the USDA considered free range and pastuais
to be the same.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
Okay, So then how do you know that the chicken
at the grocery store that the eggs in the grocery
store are truly pasture raised.
Speaker 7 (33:22):
So a lot of people would say they're gonna hear
your question and be like, well, I can tell from
the yolk, Like the yolk's gonna be orange in the
true pastu raise. No, people like that is not how
you tell. The industry uses something called xanthophil, which is
a feed additive. What that can make that yoke any
color they want. So whether the birds have lived out
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on green grass or they've never stepped foot outside.
Speaker 3 (33:44):
I can produce an or a yolk that's orange or.
Speaker 7 (33:47):
Red or bright yellow or even like shades of green,
Like I can make it any color through a synthetic
feed additive. That's what those guys are doing. So then
a lot of people are cracking this yok open. They're like, oh,
well look at this beautiful orange. Yeo, that's not orange
because the birds are outside. That's from a feet additive.
You know, So how do you really tell that's the problem,
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Like people don't know they have there's no way to
really know other than knowing your farmer, which is.
Speaker 3 (34:14):
Not really like a that's not a.
Speaker 7 (34:16):
Realistic solution, like Joel talks about that a lot. Will
Harris talks about that a lot I love, and you've
had on as well. Most paper too busy, like they
can't really do that. So it becomes really really tough
for the working mom who's rushing through the grocery store
with three kids hanging onto the shopping cart, and they're like,
I want to feed my kids the best I can.
I'm going to grab the pasture raise, but they're paying
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extra for a label, you know, fully smoke.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
Yeah, it's a bummer that is like a massive manipulation
tactic I wasn't aware of.
Speaker 7 (34:44):
And that's why I say, like, if you're doing free
range or even caged birds, like, if you're honest about it,
I actually respect it more sure than faking people.
Speaker 3 (34:51):
Like That's what bothers me the most.
Speaker 2 (34:53):
Why should antibiotic free chicken be a non negotiable for families?
Speaker 7 (34:58):
Well, I'm not act spurt on antibiotics, okay, I just
think eventually you are what you eat, and you are
what you eat eats, and with antibiotic resistance like spiking
throughout the country, we are like a family that never
takes antibotics for anything, you know. But there's a lot
of people that need antibotics, like medically they need to
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be effective. Well if we're using them not just in
response to sickness, like in the poultry industry, they're used
prophologtically a lot, which means they're fed to the chickens
whether they got sick or not, because it kind of
helps them to grow faster.
Speaker 2 (35:34):
Mm hm.
Speaker 7 (35:35):
Those at nine billion animals entering the food supply every
single year, and that's going to develop an antibiotic resistance,
not just in the chicken, but some studies are saying
in humans too, if we're eating that chicken, So it's
a very dangerous thing to just be like stuffing animals
with antibiotics. And there are companies. Tyson is one company
who just went back, so they had no antibotics for
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a long time. They just went back. They're like, nope,
we're going to.
Speaker 2 (35:59):
Add antibate wire places like chick fil A Tyson. Why
are they suddenly going from antibiotic free to just adding them.
Speaker 7 (36:05):
Back in all of a sudden Because the birds grow faster,
so economically it kind of makes more sense they convert
feed faster. Like it's mostly an economic incentive. It's not
consumer demand. Consumers do not want antibiotics in the chicken,
so it's not for that.
Speaker 2 (36:21):
I can't remember if it was on farming that they
were showing these chickens. So the way they're factory farming,
it's like it's like they can't move their legs are
basically they're just laying their limb but they're growing at
such a fast rate and they're getting so huge that
they can't walk and things like that, just so they
can be butchered and they're just creating more meat. What
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are some of these factory farms doing to chickens to
just make a quick buck that is not actually healthy
for the consumer.
Speaker 7 (36:48):
So let's say like a normal chicken, Like the breeds
that we raise are going to be of maybe five
six pounds something like that. That animal can walk very well.
It's the same breed. Its like what you see in
a giant factory farm or whatever. It's the same breed.
But we're harvesting. And when they're five or six pounds
and they cruising around, they can still forage. They're doing
really well. I mean some places are raising those animals
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to twelve pounds. It's like a turkey in a.
Speaker 2 (37:12):
Couple month span. Yeah, and why is that bad for
the meat when you're eating it.
Speaker 3 (37:17):
I don't know how to say it's bad for the meat.
Speaker 7 (37:20):
But the reason that they're going to do it is
because it costs kind of like the same to harvest
an animal, whether it's three pounds or twelve pounds, So
economically it makes sense to raise a bigger animal, and
then there's more meat on that animal compared to the bone.
Speaker 3 (37:31):
So it's like that's why they're doing it.
Speaker 2 (37:35):
From a moral standpoint, it's just wrong because you're just
that animal is miserable.
Speaker 7 (37:40):
And we talked about like being able to go outside
and express the chickenness of the chicken, like a twelve
pound chickens not going to just cruise outside, you know,
there's no way it's not walking around like that.
Speaker 3 (37:50):
You know.
Speaker 1 (37:59):
Welcome back to point tonight, where we are charting the
course of America's cultural comeback. Usually in this segment we
do something fun. It's Monday, so maybe we do Mega
Monday and show a bunch of videos of mag As winning,
as is generally the case nowadays. But instead, well, today
actually is my wife and I's seventh anniversary, March tenth,
twenty eighteen, So I'm gonna use the next couple of
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minutes very briefly to discuss well what I see as marriage,
especially in the context of the conservative movement, and what
I've learned over the last couple of years. Of course,
we are the party of marriage, family, all great, all good,
But there's one thing that I don't know sticks out
to me whenever it's said, especially amongst conservatives. Pretty much
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everybody likes to throw around this phrase, well, my wife
is my best friend, my husband is my best friend,
my spouse is my best friend. That's not really true. No,
my best friend is my best friend. And that's not
at all to diminish the value of the relationship I
have with my wife. It's actually the opposite. It's to
elevate that relationship. My wife isn't my best friend. My
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wife is an extension of me. Same is I hope
that I'm an extension of my wife. We're one thing,
We're one unit, and a best friend doesn't do the
justice deserved to what that actually means. In Scripture, it
says several times in Genesis Ephesian's Mark that a man
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leaves his mother and father to become one flesh with
his wife. That doesn't mean he leaves his mother and
father to become his spouse's best friend. No, it means
one flesh, one unit. And the only reason I say that,
and the only reason that it I don't know, kind
of irritates me a little bit is that if you
look at a marriage as well just two friends that
live together and share a family, well, it kind of
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distorts the perspective you view the world in If we
look at every problem, every combative idea from the Libs
as well, a husband and wife a singular unit going
at it against the forces of leftism. We're gonna have
much better and stronger arguments to put together considering the
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fact that we agree that your husband and wife is
not your best friend. You are one unit. So that
being said, Happy anniversary, babe, super excited to continue to
do life with you. That'll do it for us here
at turning Points tonight, Charlie is going to take us
out in a segment of his we will see you tomorrow,
same time, same place, God bless America.
Speaker 6 (40:43):
So much of our politics was defined by that term woke.
Speaker 3 (40:49):
Where did woke begin?
Speaker 6 (40:50):
Obviously thirty or forty fifty sixty years ago via the
Frankfurt School critical theory. But there was a moment during
COVID where it seemed as if the entire society exploded.
There was a moment that was caught on video that
triggered what is now known as Floyda Palooza. We weren't
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allowed to think about it at the time. We're only
allowed to feel. We weren't allowed to ask very simple
questions about what's really going on here. And as a result,
the man in the video, Derek Chauvin, is now going
to send the rest of his life in prison when
now further examination allows us to re analyze this cultural flashpoint,
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and a very brave man when it comes to this
particular topic, and a great man, Ben Shapiro is willing
to speak out and not just ask the question, but
advocate for a pardon for Derek Chauvin. Joining us now
is Ben Shapiro, host of The Ben Shapiro Show and
also the website is Pardon Derek dot Com, co founder
(41:54):
of The Daily Wire.
Speaker 3 (41:55):
Ben. Welcome to the program.
Speaker 1 (41:57):
Hey, Charlie, thanks much for having me.
Speaker 3 (41:58):
Really appreciate it.
Speaker 6 (42:01):
So Ben, I'm gonna just say the floor is yours.
For some people that have not been following this with
great detail, this might make them kind of take a second,
like a little pause in a second beat. Why are
you advocating for Derek Chauvin's pardon and what have you
learned the course of your research, in your rigorous pursuit
of the truth that has led you to this advocacy.
Speaker 5 (42:23):
Well, I think the reason that I'm advocating for the
pardon is because Derek Shauven is not guilty. And I
think that it's very important to explode narratives like the
one that you were talking about, because those narratives live
on in our memory as sort of flash points that
people draw upon as evidence of narratives that are false.
So the narrative that surrounded the Floyd Chauvin killing was
the narrative that America was inherently racist. Now, those allegations
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were never actually made a trial. There was never any
allegation by prosecutors or by anyone that Derek Chauvin quote
unquote killed George Floyd because George Floyd was black.
Speaker 3 (42:53):
And yet that was the narrative.
Speaker 1 (42:54):
It burst out all over the country.
Speaker 5 (42:55):
The systemic American policing was racist, that America had to
undergo a sort of racial cleansing process that allowed for
two billion dollars in rioting, in fact, a process that
was so important that even if COVID was spreading around,
you were allowed to take off your mask and shout
in the streets for George Floyd and you would somehow
be free of COVID for doing all of these things.
Speaker 3 (43:13):
We all remember this.
Speaker 5 (43:14):
It was really a quite terrible time in American history,
and it was being excused by the entire left, all
of the legacy media. And in fact, if you didn't
post the black square in favor of Black Lives Matter.
You are basically non personed in terms of social media
and the way that you were approached in all these spaces. Now,
the reality of this particular death is now known, and
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we know pretty much everything there is to know about it,
and there are a bunch of reasons why Derek Chauvin
should be parted. By the way, while in federal custody,
he was stabbed recently twenty one times by fellow inmates,
so it's quite dangerous for him. The reason why we
now know all of this is because we know from
jurors that they were pressured, that they felt the pressure,
that they were scared to rule in favor of Derek Chauvin.
Speaker 3 (43:58):
We now know, and we could see.
Speaker 5 (44:00):
It at the time, the amount of public pressure that
was brought in that particular case. The mayor of Minneapolis
was signing settlements with the family of George Floyd on
behalf of the city in the middle of the trial.
The governor of Minnesota at the time was, of course
Tim Walls, and Tim Walls was basically out there proclaiming
the guilt of Derek Chauvin. Joe Biden was running for
president at the time of twenty twenty, and he and
(44:20):
the rest of the Democratic regime were talking about how
Derek Chauvin was, how this was a key flashpoint in
American history, and how this was demonstrating sort of the
apex moment of all of American racism contains in this
particular incident. So, first, the first clue that this was
not true came, I think from that from the fact
that it was deemed an incident of American racism, and
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never did anyone ever make a claim.
Speaker 1 (44:43):
They were not even federal hate crime charges.
Speaker 5 (44:44):
There was no claim that Derek Chauvin quote unquote killed
George Floyd because he was racist. Then you start to
look more into the details of the actual death of
George Floyd. Everything from the autopsy report, the original medical
examiner autopsy report suggested that he had died not of
failure to breathe because of pressure put on him, but
effectively of excited delirium fentanyl overdose. The idea in the
(45:07):
actual autopsy report suggested that he had enough fentanyl in
him that if he had just found this body on
a sidewalk, the medical examiner, then he would have immediately
determined that he had died of fentanyl overdose. We know
from the actual tape, So there were sections of the
tape that people thought they saw the eight minutes or
four minutes of the eight minute tape, and then.
Speaker 1 (45:25):
There was a lot of tape before that.
Speaker 5 (45:26):
So if you actually look at the incident in its entirety,
what you found out is that George Floyd was in
a car outside of a place of business where he
had passed a counterfit bill and the police came and
arrived was Derek Chauvin and the rest of the members
of the officers who were there, and Derek Chauvin arrested
George Floyd, and it appears that George Floyd either ingested
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drugs that were on him or he was already high.
Speaker 3 (45:50):
The reason that he might.
Speaker 5 (45:51):
Have jested drugs is because literally a few years before,
we also have a videotape of George Floyd doing exactly that.
He was arrested and the Allstar had to force him
to spit out the drugs. They arrest him, they take
him out of his vehicle, they put him into the
vehicle of the police officers, and a crowd is already
gathering because this very often happens when there's a controversial
police procedure that's happening, and George Floyd is put into
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the back of the police vehicle.
Speaker 3 (46:14):
He doesn't want to get in.
Speaker 5 (46:15):
He's complaining, he's saying that he's scared of being in
the car, that he's claustrophobic, and all the rest of
this kind of stuff. He gets in and immediately upon
entering the car, he starts shouting that he can't breathe.
Before he's on the ground, right, I can't breathe became
sort of the matter of the moment, the phrase of
the moment, people chanting I can't breathe in homage to
George Floyd. He was saying he could not breathe from
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when he was in the car, suggesting either that it
was untrue that he could actually breathe because normally if
you can talk, he can breathe, but or that he
was already having difficulty breathing based on the fact that
he had a very large chart, that he had a
lot of drugs in his system, and that he was
actually having a medical issue before he was actually taken
out of the car by the way at his request.
Speaker 1 (46:55):
At his request, he said, I don't.
Speaker 5 (46:57):
Want to be in the car, and so they said, okay,
So they took him out of the car and they
put him in position on the ground. Now, the Minneapolis
police training model includes the sort of position that Derek
Chauvin was using.
Speaker 3 (47:07):
This was introduced at trial.
Speaker 5 (47:09):
Derek Schauvin had been taught this by the Minneapolis Police Department.
There is a normal procedure. In fact, the much of
the tape of him on George Floyds quote unquote neck
from a different angle is him.
Speaker 1 (47:20):
On George Floyd's shoulder.
Speaker 5 (47:21):
This was admitted by witnesses for the for the prosecution
that some of that time he was on George Floyd's shoulder. Now,
at some point during that eight minutes, George Floyd went nonresponsive.
It seems to be unclear to Chauvin when he was nonresponsive.
But there is no medical evidence that, for example, there
was damage to his trache yet which would cut off
the air. There is the there was no bruising on
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his neck. So the autopsy and medical reports suggested again
that at best, there is certainly reasonable doubt that he
died because of the suppression technique, specifically that Derek Chauvin
was using
President Trump talks TikTok. Is there a deal in the
work to get the biggest social media platform sold? The
BLM sidewalk or BLM plaza in Washington, DC is coming down.
Find out how much that stupid thing costs the taxpayers. Also,
are people going to homeschool more than they have been
in the past whilst numbers are climbing and the well,
(00:30):
I wonder why that is? All that and more coming
up on this episode of Turning Point Tonight. My name
is Jobobin. Together we are charting the course of America's
cultural comeback. Thanks so much for tuning in. This is
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So do TBT at TPUSA dot com. What we have
to talk about today, I think is fascinating. We have
Alex Clark who's going to be joining us in just
a quick second. But I want to set this up
a lot of people, especially watching this show. I don't
(01:15):
think watched the show that we're going to talk about.
But here's why I think it's important. There's a show
called White Lotus on HBO or Max or whatever the
heck they call their streaming service nowadays that is massively popular.
It's not so much in the conservative world, which is
why I think we need to talk about it, but
it has a huge impact on society as a whole.
(01:38):
The other week, last week, specifically, there was an episode
of White Lotus in which one of the characters came
out as a Trump supporter. Oh no, I thought it
was fascinating watching it, and I'm sure Alex has some
commentary and some insight on that as well. So without
further doo, let's bring in Alex Clark, host of Turning Points,
(01:58):
Cultural Apothetic, Culture Culture Apothecary. Alex, I don't know why
I keep wanting to say culture role, but Culture Apothecary
podcast one of the biggest, fastest growing podcasts on the
Internet streams at the moment. Alex, thanks for joining us, Thank.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
You for having me. I love White Lotus, so any
excuse to talk about it is good with me exactly.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
Yeah, So let's do this. Let's play this clip. We'll
watch it. It's rather long, it's ninety seconds, and we
will discuss the moment when one of the main characters
comes out as a well kind of as a as
a Trump supporter. Watched this, and we'll discuss.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
I get a lot out of going to church.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
I just I love the people.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
It's very moving. I didn't know.
Speaker 4 (02:45):
You went to church.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Oh yeah, we go every Sunday.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
Yeah, ever since we moved to Austin. Is it like
a real text and church, like the Bible? Fumbers?
Speaker 4 (02:56):
And well?
Speaker 3 (02:57):
The people are you know, more conservative than like LA
people or like New York?
Speaker 2 (03:06):
Is that weird for you?
Speaker 1 (03:08):
Why would it be weird?
Speaker 3 (03:12):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
If I was just around a bunch of Texans who
voted for Trump, I guess.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
I just feel a little alienated. They're nice people, really
good families.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
Cool, But you ever talk politics about them sometimes.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
I'm gonna get awkward.
Speaker 5 (03:32):
Why would it?
Speaker 6 (03:33):
Because wait, are you a Republican?
Speaker 3 (03:40):
No, I'm an independent?
Speaker 7 (03:44):
But Davis.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
An independent?
Speaker 2 (03:50):
Hm?
Speaker 3 (03:51):
Since when you didn't vote for Trump?
Speaker 4 (03:54):
Though?
Speaker 1 (03:54):
Did you?
Speaker 3 (04:01):
Are we really going to talk about Trump tonight?
Speaker 8 (04:06):
Real? Good?
Speaker 1 (04:07):
Yeah? I thought it was a fascinating change. Alice. I'll
let you you go off on any thoughts you have,
and then I got a couple questions for you.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
So the whole premise of this show is like, you're
going to a really wealthy resort and you have this
spotlight into all these different families or groups on vacation,
and just like the problems that are within these different
groups and how they play out over the course of
their vacation. So every season kind of focuses on new characters.
This group of three friends who have been friends since
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like high school or college or something and haven't really
spent much time together as adults is a really interesting
one because there are all these adult women who kind
of are re getting to know each other, and there's
a lot of gossiping about each other behind their backs,
and obviously they don't know that their one friend may
have voted for Trump in the last election. And I
think it's really resonating with people all over because gosh,
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haven't we all been in a situation like this? Now?
What's funny is that there's some relief when they're like, well,
you and you you're not a Republican, are you? Vote, well,
I'm an independent. You know. They're like, oh, it has
even worse to them because it's like, oh, you can't
choose just to side. But I think it's interesting because
you see the Democrat women there, they're conflicted because it's like,
(05:17):
wait a minute, we know this girl, we love this girl,
we know that she's a good person, and yet she
was able to potentially vote for Trump. Like what does
that say about all Trump supporters?
Speaker 1 (05:27):
Right?
Speaker 2 (05:27):
And I think that's this like weird turn of events
that happens with a lot of people when you find
out that your close friends or family vote for Trump,
you know, God forbid. Then it's like, oh, well, maybe
what I know or have been told about Trump supporters
is it necessarily true?
Speaker 1 (05:42):
Yeah? You know what also is interesting, Well, first things first,
on the independent thing, I think we all know what
that means. When someone says I'm an independent, They're they're
a conservative. They're just not exactly ready to share that
in the open. So that's fine. Uh, this is what
I thought was fascinating and not to dig too far
into this this show, but the two other girlfriends, one
is divorced and kind of struggling living in New York,
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the other ones lives in la and is an actress
and married some guy who's twenty years younger than her.
Interestingly enough, you know, we don't know a ton about
the characters, but the character that is the Trump supporter
is married with kids and seems to have their lives
kind of together already. Would do you think that that's
going to kind of stay consistent over the next course
(06:25):
of the next couple episodes?
Speaker 2 (06:27):
Oh my gosh, Well, this is obviously this was like
a huge bomb to drop in this friend group. So
I'm very excited to see now what is going to happen,
because it isn't only those two ganging up on the
Trump Supporter. All of them have been talking about each
other behind each other's backs, so it's like, we don't
know where the true alliance is actually lie. But if
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you've never watched White Lotus, I mean, it's such a
fun show because you just kind of get to be
a fly on the wall for people's secret problems and they,
you know, on the outside, look like they have it
all together, but they're really falling apart. And that's what
makes this show so good and why it's won so
many awards.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
So just so people know how big of a deal
the show is. Nine point three million people on average
watched every episode in season one. That jump to fifteen
point five million for season two on average per episode.
You don't get more than a couple million on any
real given TV show ever anymore, So fifteen point five
million is a huge number. Zoom out app passed the
(07:23):
show a little bit. And I'm curious your take, because
you've been in this cultural world for a really long time.
What that clip said to me was kind of a
statistical evidence of well, conservatives generally have way more liberal
friends than liberals have conservative friends. You kind of being
in the artsy world, in the cultural world, can you
(07:45):
kind of talk about your experience kind of in that vein.
I'm sure you've got lefty friends, but I'm curious, do
you think your lefty friends have conservative friends outside of you?
Speaker 3 (07:55):
No, No, they definitely don't.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
And whats like so in that clip alone, Joe, that
woman who is the Trump supporter, she knew obviously going
into it that her friends were Democrats. She had no
problem with it. They are the ones who brought this
up and were like confused, like, oh, you go to church.
Wait a minute, you didn't vote for Trump, did you?
And then they were all like super you know, concerned
about it, and she was like, oh yeah, like we're
just having a dinner, like no big deal, you know.
(08:19):
To her, it didn't matter that they had different views,
but you can see how to the liberal friends it
greatly mattered.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
But yeah, I would.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
Say, you know, what's interesting is that before the MAHA movement,
the Make America Healthy Again movement, which I'm a part of,
all of my friends that would be more liberal kind
of dropped me. And then a lot of them started
to kind of flock back in this last election because
so many people like her voted independent or something or
ended up voting for Trump based on the MAHA topic.
(08:46):
And so now they're kind of like all in on
my show and what I talk about on a day
to day basis, and they're like, well, you know, I
don't know that I agree with Alex on everything, but
I definitely agree with her on the health stuff. So
they're all coming back around. It's so interesting how different
already Trump admin this time around is compared to before
the Trump presidency. This time around compared to before, it's like,
I mean, what seventy something percent of the country voted
(09:09):
for Trump. So statistically, yeah, any big group dinner with
friends or family, you're gonna have a lot of Trump
supporters there, whether they're admitting it to you or not.
And likely a lot of them are probably pretending like
they didn't and they totally did, because otherwise, I don't know,
you couldn't explain the numbers in this election.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
Yeah, no, I that's that is fantastic to watch unfold
in front of our own eyes. Speaking of the Trump administration,
there's been talks for a while now in conservative movements
about getting rid of the Department of Education, to which
a bunch of the Libs are screaming about of oh no,
this is terrible, But the Trump administration is talking about
getting rid of the Department of Education. Government schools have
(09:48):
been failing upwards of for the last several decades. The
numbers about homeschoolers are coming out and over the last
several years, obviously COVID played a big factor in at
but have been rising consistently up to the expected twenty
to twenty four numbers are going to be about three
point seven million students. School age students are likely to
(10:11):
be homeschooled in the country. Seventy two percent of people
who say their homeschool and the kids are dissatisfied with
the academic instruction and traditional school seventy five percent want
to provide more moral instruction. Alex what does it look
like over the next decade of parents who are choosing
to homeschool their kids instead of entrust them into the
government woke schools.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
Well, first of all, I hope we start seeing, you know,
really really smart kids kind of taking jobs and having
a better sense of independence and grasp on adulthood. What
we've seen in this last generation are kids who are
terrified to start driving as teenagers. They don't want to
move out of their parents' house. It's just this weird
(10:54):
like Peter Pan syndrome, never growing up that we're seeing
from today's young people. This has got to stop. Were
this country cannot survive if that's what's going on. And
I would say, as far as the learning environment that
we've kind of cultivated over the years in American public schools,
if you were to take a plant and put it
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in the same environment that we are expecting kids to
thrive and learn in a public school setting, that plant
would die hardly. Any sunlight, no nutrient dense foods or water,
you know, the tap water that we're we're letting them
get out of the water fountains there, you know, filled
with arsenic and birth control and fluoride. It's absolutely horrific
(11:37):
the conditions that we're putting kids in. And then we're
saying like, okay, now you need to perform. And also,
as a child, doesn't come naturally to you to sit
six or seven hours a day straight and not talk
and not move, but like God forbid, you can't do
any of that. And if you do, then we're going
to put you on a bunch of prescription drugs that's
going to start a lifelong treadmill of drug prescriptions for
you and start getting you medicalized at a younger and
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younger age. So it's really disturb And the thing is
is that all of these people that are pooping their
pants and crying about the Department of Education being defunded,
I'm sorry, but like, has it really been successful? Half
of American students cannot read, so they can't read, they
can't write. The academic mathematics scores are plumbing, so these
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kids are not learning. I mean, the data shows that
they're not learning, so what are they doing in there
all day? Basically they're just sitting there and being told
to be quiet, and their behavior is they're trying to
correct their behavior. We have to get back to a
country where we're allowing kids to be kids. Kids, especially
very very young kids learn when they're playing, they need
to be outside. They need to be eating real food,
(12:42):
they need to be getting sunlight. They need to stay
off screens that are melting their brains and making it
so they cannot focus on anything. We've got iPad brain
rot through the roof. So there's a lot of things
that are working against American kids. I really really feel
strongly that if more parents, and I think a lot
of parents would be really open to homeschooling Joe Bob.
But the problem is is that it's been kind of
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indoctrinated into American parents that it's really hard to do,
or you have to have, you know, a certain level
of education to do it yourself, or that you have
to be a stay at home parent in order to
do it. There are so many groups that exist right now,
and homeschool co ops and things that are literally helping
parents who are single parents. Homeschool who are both working
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parents who are poor. The average homeschooling family is making
I mean, I believe it's under sixty thousand dollars a year.
This idea that you have to be like rich and
wealthy in a stay at home mom, that's just absolutely
not true. You can do it. And the cool thing
about homeschool is because it's not supposed to mimic school
at home. You're supposed to be able to create your
own schedule and kind of go with the flow of
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your child and their interests. So you can make your
schedule as you know, intense as you want, or only
two hours a day. Really, your kid's only learning about
two hours a day anyway, and then the rest can
be spent exploring and doing things as a family learning
in those situations.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
Yeah, I couldn't agree with you more on pretty much
all of that. Just to statistically, despite concerns, eighty seven
percent of studies suggests that positive social outcomes for homeschool
kids as well as ninety eight percent of them find
at least five extracurricular activities, So that whole notion slash
stigma seems to be put to bed pretty quickly, especially
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when you factor in all the statistics. Alex Clark, host
of Culture Apothecary, check it out wherever. Alex. Really appreciate
you taking the time to come on.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
Thank you so much. Hey, anytime you want to talk
homeschool or raw milk or anything, just come listen to
my show and that's all.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
We talk about. Awesome, Alex, thank you so much, appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
Coming up we talk masculinity is among many other things.
And also check in with Turning Points White House Correspondent
Monica Page at the White House. Don't go away, We'll
be right back after this. Welcome back to Turning Point tonight.
It is time to check in with Turning Points White
(15:06):
House Correspondent Monica Page, as she joins us on you know,
in my opinion, a somber day. The BLM Plaza in Washington,
d C. Is going bye bye. Tell us a little
bit about that. And we were just talking briefly before
this how it all kind of came into play. Can
you explain that for a guess at our viewers at home.
Speaker 8 (15:26):
Yeah, sure, Joe, Bob, great to be with you as always.
I mean, it's a very historic day. Some say, you know,
it's an end of an era after four and a
half years of having BLM Plaza for about two blocks
here right across the street from the White House here
in d C. I mean, it's completely going away. I
mean we saw construction workers this morning tearing it up.
But the reason why that it is the way it is.
(15:48):
I mean it was okayed and got the green light
from DC Mural DC Mayor Miro Bowser. The reason why
is because in Congress there was Congressman Georgia Congressman Andrew
Clyde he put forth him seventeen seventy four which basically said,
this BLM mural that you have here is pretty divisive
and if you keep it up, we're gonna pull all
your federal funding. So either you pull the either you
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pulled that mural out, or we're gonna stop giving you
federal funds. So this is what mural Bowser okayed, the
murals coming out, and I think within the next six
to eight weeks we could see it completely paved over
and we could see the square being renamed to Liberty
Plaza or Freedom Plaza at that that that.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
Yeah, it is interesting because it was the mayor of
DC that preemptively took this down because people should know
this from civics class. Washington, DC is not its own entity,
that everything they do is controlled by Congress because it
is a district not a state. And interestingly enough, listen
to this. The cost estimates for the BLM plaza reportedly
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cost four point eight million dollars for construction, including durable
paint and a bunch of other nonsense, and an additional
three three million dollars invested for benches, lighting, signage, all
that sort of stuff, bringing the cost for the bil
And Plaza close to eight million dollars of taxpayer money.
Holy cow, that's that's very expensive, Ana, Yeah, yeah, right,
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Anything else going on at the White House specifically today
that outside of this, you know, this just devastating day
for her BLM and those communists over there that run
that organization. Anything else going on at the White House.
Speaker 8 (17:32):
I mean, we were off to a pretty strong start here.
I mean we have seen the creation of the CBP
home app over the weekend now being put into place today,
which essentially allows it legal aliens to declare that they're
leaving the country. We remember, under the Biden administration they
had the CBP one app, which basically fast tractors legal
status to citizenship, but it came with a lot of issues.
(17:52):
I mean, the app was crashing, they were tech issues.
But President Trump, after signing that executive order about immigration
and basically deporting those criminals, they implemented CDP home, which
means you're going to go back or you're going to
face harsh consequences. So a really strong start heading into
this week. We also know President Trump signing an executive
order today as well. It's about disaster relief, and it
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basically says that these local states and jurisdictions have complete
power and are in the driver's seat anytime catastrophe strikes
in the region, leaving the states completely up to power,
so they don't have to rely on federal funding like
FEMA to deal with things. And we know that FEMA
slow walks a lot of that aid. When you saw
in North Carolina and California as well, also Hawaii, East Palestine,
you name it, FEMA really slow walked a lot of
(18:36):
that kind of stuff. So President Trump's living it up
to the states. He's also swearing in his Secret Service
Director Sean Kurran this afternoon. He's also holding a round table,
a tech round table with all these CEOs talk about
tariffs since in national security. So a lot on the
president's plate today and definitely going to be a lot
on the president's plate as the rest of the week
plays out.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
Yeah, awesome. That sounds like there's a lot that's about
to come out of the White House over the course
in the next couple of days. We will check in
tomorrow seeing you know what else is topping the news
of the day coming out of the White House. Monica
Page turning Points, White House Correspondent, thanks so much for
joining us.
Speaker 8 (19:09):
Oh, it's great to be with you. Joe Bob, thanks so.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
Much, Monica Page turning Points, White House Correspondent, Always a
pleasure to talk to. Let's bring in another guest to
talk about what Trump is talking about with TikTok, some
of the trans stuff that Doge is uncovering. Brayden Soorbo
joins us from West Palm Beach. You may recognize the name,
and if you can put that together, you know, good
(19:31):
on you. Son of Hercules and is as tall as
that to begin with, but also a big time power
player in his own right. Brandon, you got what two
million TikTok followers? Almost? Yeah, Well, first of all, thanks,
thanks for coming on. Really appreciate you taking the time.
But second, as a big time TikToker, President Trump said
that there's about four different people possibly looking at a
(19:54):
deal to purchase TikTok from the Chinese Communist Party owned
Byte Dance. What would that mean for you the TikTok
community as a whole. What are your thoughts on that
deal possibly getting done.
Speaker 4 (20:08):
I see it as a potential. I mean, China obviously
doesn't want to just give up control of this massive
money maker and you know, data mining machine that they have,
but it did go into effect that ban for what
fourteen hours or so, and so they saw that the
United States was actually willing to play ball, and that
kind of put them on their heels a little bit.
And so I, for one, I love the fact that
(20:29):
TikTok gave me the platform that I have, but I
also don't love the app itself just because it's China.
So well, I can be grateful to have the start
that I did on TikTok. I can see the value
in protecting American citizens.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
Yeah, totally. For those who don't know, Congress passed a
law that was supposed to take effect to January nineteenth,
President Trump signed an executive order delaying at seventy five
days for the enforcement of that law. People think it's
valued at fifty billion. Of the people that can afford
fifty billion, they're really not many, Britain. Do you have
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any thoughts on who might be coming in. Mister Beast
has expressed interest. Some of the other big tech company
guys are talking that they might participate, Jeff Bezos, Zuckerberg,
all the kind of the usual suspects. You know what,
could there be a difference depending on who it ultimately
goes to if President Trump is able to actually solidify
(21:23):
this deal.
Speaker 4 (21:24):
See' that's the biggest problem, is it. It's gonna be
the same thing as Facebook, in which case, okay, great,
Now an American company is just stealing all my data,
So how much better is it really? You know, it's
kind of like the double edged sword. I've seen people
like mister Beasts, Kevin O'Leary, Rachel Matt No, sorry, Mark Cuban.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
I always get them confused throw their names into the hat.
Speaker 4 (21:45):
I would be surprised if Elon Musk wasn't interested in
buying TikTok simply to essentially throw it out because he
wants X to be the number one platform and TikTok
is a big competitor when it comes to video making.
But I wouldn't be surprised if Trump was able to
kind of set a deal in place with someone like
mister Beast or mister wonderful Kevin O'Leary with his whole
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group kind of conglomerate of people. And I suppose it
might be somewhat better than the regular Chinese byte dance
company owning it, but not by much, not by a
great margin.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
Yeah, that's you know, conservatives are really kind of split
on this whole TikTok issue. Obviously, there's the you know,
the algorithm part of it, where it's like, all right, well,
are we gonna let one of our biggest enemies put
what is in front of the screen for millions and
millions of young adults. And also there's a free speech
element to it. So it's a big, whole complicated thing.
It'll be really interesting to see if President Trump can
(22:38):
get a deal struck with whoever it is that is
looking to purchase the app. I want to move on
to this. This is effectively a TikTok, you know, in
the format This is a clip from Andrew Schulz, and
again this really applies to you as authoring a book
Embrace Masculinity. Watch this clip and we'll discuss on the
other side. I told my wife, was like, listen, if
you want to choose the gender, we can choose a gender.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
Okay, I'm just letting you know.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
Now, whatever gender we choose, it's gonna stay that one.
Speaker 3 (23:07):
They're not coming back here.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
Fifteen years later, I identifzed I got paperwork on.
Speaker 3 (23:13):
I spent thirty grand on a boy.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
I'm getting a foe.
Speaker 3 (23:17):
You want to be a girl, you owe me thirty grand.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
I raised you better than you stealed from me. Let
you buy your freedom with thirty grands.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
You better go out there and get a job. That's what
you better do.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
I recommend getting the job as a man because women
make twenty five percent less.
Speaker 8 (23:30):
But listen, this is the time.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
I hope you're ready. I love that. Yeah, you know,
if you're gonna if you're gonna go through the whole process,
pay all that money and get a boy, gonna stay
a boy. I'm pretty your thoughts.
Speaker 4 (23:45):
I've always said that it's it's a man's duty, right,
Like you said the book Embrace Masculinity. I'll throw it
up right here, and it's behind me as well. It's
always a man's job, especially as a father, to take
care of your family. And so what Andrew's doing brilliantly
is poking fun at the narrative that the left where
men don't essentially matter. I mean, there was a post
I saw a little while ago of a guy who
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had a daughter, and his daughter came to him said Dad,
I'm transgender. I'm going to become a boy. And the
dad goes, oh my gosh, so am I I'm going
to be a girl. And he essentially made fun of
it so much to the point where he was showing
up in poorly pick up his daughter from school and
being so embarrassing that this trend sort of died out
in the family. And now the daughter is a happy
(24:26):
teenage girl living her life as she should. And so Andrew,
with his comedic timing, is brilliant in poking fun at
what the left is doing with the transgender movement, because
it's incredibly true.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
You know, it is boy or boy.
Speaker 4 (24:39):
I posted International Women's Day was a couple days ago,
and I said, Happy International Women's Day.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
By the way, what is a woman?
Speaker 4 (24:45):
Because so many people can't seem to figure out the
difference between xx and x Y chromosomes, And that's just
the only way that we can really sort of poke
fun through it because science doesn't matter to the leftists,
and so comedy is really going to strike a nerve.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
Yeah, it's the best way to throw that in there is,
you know, make fun of it and mock it and
it goes away, which I think we're actually doing a
pretty good job of doing, speaking of things to make
fun of and mock the Uh well, okay, this is
this is this is crazy where it was coming from,
but it was also it's also crazy just in and
of itself. Let me explain that the US Department of
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Agriculture canceled a grant were six hundred thousand dollars to
study the menstrual cycles of transgender men. Secretary Brook Rawlins
said on Friday, six hundred thousand dollars was going to
studying the mentoral cycles of women, which I think we
actually know quite a bit about already. But these women
(25:43):
specifically dress up like dudes and pretend so that I
guess warrants another half million dollars. I don't know, it's
what are your thoughts.
Speaker 4 (25:54):
I was really concerned when hearing you say that and
reading the article for the first time, because I was going, Okay, wait,
are they studying men who think they're women? Because if
you're a guy and you're bleeding down there, you should
probably get it checked out. That's not a menstrual cycle,
that's probably cancer. Like, don't you know, don't don't fall
into that trap. But it's so true. This this absurd
amount of money that we're wasting. Why do we need
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more money thrown at something that we're already spending money
studying Just because these women take testosterone and try to
grow out a beard, we need to allocate over half
a million dollars for them. Frankly say, I live in
a house with two women, my sister and my mom.
I don't ask questions. It's not my it's not my business.
Speaker 3 (26:31):
I don't need to know.
Speaker 4 (26:33):
All I know is okay, they might be a little
bit more moody or grumpy today.
Speaker 3 (26:37):
I'm just gonna steer clear.
Speaker 4 (26:38):
You know, Hey, Mom, you want me to make you
dinner because that'll keep me safe And that's all I
really care about.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
Oh man, dude, that's uh that's I'm gonna because I'm married,
I'm not gonna condone those remarks. But I do know
somebody who looks a lot like me that may a
man not agree with you. Brady Sorbo, author of Embrace Masculine,
thanks so much for joining us. Really appreciate you taking
the time.
Speaker 3 (27:03):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
Coming up, we had a great clip from the Alex
Clark culture Apothecary, who you just heard from in the
first segment. Don't go away, We'll be right back after this.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
You're challenging the status quo of factory farming. What's the
most shocking thing that you've learned about the way the
poultry industry operates today.
Speaker 7 (27:29):
The most shocking thing is that labels, by and large
like don't mean what you think.
Speaker 3 (27:35):
And that's really for the worse.
Speaker 7 (27:38):
I would say, like people are very convinced that they
understand what the labels like pasture raise means, free range, organic,
and oftentimes it's not what you would think. And I
think that when people start to understand that, it's a
bit disheartening because they're spending a lot of extra money
on this stuff. But the reality is it's just like,
(28:00):
oftentimes not what you would hope it is.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
Okay, So let's go through what some of these labels mean,
Like let's talk about what is cage free, what is
free range, what is pasture rays.
Speaker 7 (28:09):
Yeah, so my disclaimer with this is like I'll explain these,
but it's no shade to the actual farmers. Like these people,
I don't care. I've I've met hundreds of them, and
they are the salt of the earth. They're good people.
Even the people doing factory farming. It's like the farmers themselves,
they're just trying to make a living man and that
that's what they know, and they're doing their best, and
(28:30):
like I respect anybody who's producing food. My cut is
more like towards the marketing departments and the ivory towers
that are like, oh, let's take this and spin it
this way and call it something else. And I think
that that's where it's shocked up. So I think there's
room for everything with transparency like that. To me, that's
the important piece, Like let people decide. There's so many
people that are on such a tight budget, like they
(28:52):
just need to buy the caged eggs, like that's just
what they can afford.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
But and that's still better an egg is still an
egg versus nonsensor.
Speaker 3 (29:02):
Yeah for sure. Okay, so cage free.
Speaker 7 (29:05):
For a long time, animals were, like laying chickens especially
were raised in actual cages, like six animals in a small,
little shoe box size cage. That's mostly at least in California,
Like that's mostly gone by the wayside now, so you'll
see cage free. That sort of explains all meat chickens
at least, like there are no caged meat chickens in
the US. In Europe, there actually is free range. Free
(29:27):
range means the birds were free to range outside. So
take kind of like an industrial style warehouse six hundred
foot long, forty ft wide, twenty four thousand birds inside
of there. As long as those doors open, those birds
were technically free to range outside. They don't have to
go outside to be free range, but they need to
have the access to go outside. Some companies are diligent
(29:49):
about it. They're putting food out there and shade and water,
and they're like actually trying to encourage the birds out.
Some companies are like, oh, we popped it open for
one minute.
Speaker 3 (29:58):
This year while the auditor was there.
Speaker 7 (30:00):
We're going to count it, you know, So it's really
company by company. The problem is chickens are prey animals.
They don't really like just running out into an open
field like your dog or a cow or something. So
unless you have a lot of reasons for them to
spend a lot of time outside, they'll stay. They're kind
of going to stay where the food and water and
their friends in this in this shade is, you know,
(30:21):
so they're going to pretty much stay inside. But I
would say, like outdoor access is still better than not
having outdoor access.
Speaker 3 (30:28):
So I'm not knocking free range or anything.
Speaker 7 (30:30):
It's just some people have this picture of like chickens,
like red chickens outside running around like those.
Speaker 3 (30:35):
Not really wouldn't.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
But that is kind of the case with pasture raised,
right or not.
Speaker 7 (30:39):
Kind of, So I'll explain pasture raise too, because it's
not what a lot of people think it is either
a lot of the marketing has made us think like, oh,
there's just these fluffy chickens out on their own like
running around. Chickens just don't do that. Like if you've
been to Hawaii or Thailand, chickens are like sneaking to
this bush and then they're like running over to this
bush like they don't want to get eaten, you know,
so they want to stay protect did they want to
(31:00):
stay close to their buddies. So in a true pasture
ray system, usually it's like Joel's Place, so that you
have some kind of a protective shade structure that gives them,
you know, a way to get out of the rain
and the sun. And then it's a floorless structure, so
you're moving that structure because they want to be close
to their food and water and shade. The important thing
(31:20):
is like you got to move that structure and then
the birds.
Speaker 3 (31:22):
Move with it.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
And you guys are doing that every day.
Speaker 3 (31:24):
Every single day, and that's really important.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
You're in national grocery stores and you're able to move
all this every day.
Speaker 7 (31:30):
Yeah, but that's a lot of innovation, and like a
lot of what we spent the last six years on
is how do we like automate that, how do we
build like everything has to be on solar because we're
on these farms out in the middle of nowhere in
the state of Georgia, so we can't just like plug
it in and drive it, you know, how do we
do it all automated so we're not like sitting there
like moving in our cell. Like Joel's system is awesome
(31:51):
and it's really labor intensive. Yeah, he has interns and
apprentices and all this stuff, so.
Speaker 3 (31:55):
He can kind of do it.
Speaker 7 (31:56):
But at our scale, I mean, we're way beyond what
he's doing, so we have to have a way to
automate all that stuff. That we call it the Automated
Range Coup. It's this really cool invention that we feel
like is like challenging the status quo. And it's like
it's like a place for the birds to actually grow.
But it's on wheels and it moves every single day,
so it's a.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
Totally it moves on its own. Yeah, drive it or what.
Speaker 3 (32:17):
It drives itself. It's like it's like the largest electric
vehicle in the world.
Speaker 1 (32:21):
How much that costs.
Speaker 7 (32:23):
It's probably a small apartment in Phoenix for each one.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
That's wild, but it has these.
Speaker 3 (32:30):
Huge benefits for the chicken and for the land.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
Is it possible for other farms to be able to
duplicate what you guys are doing.
Speaker 7 (32:37):
Oh, there's a thousand small farms doing it for real
at different scales, So like Joel's would be the small
scale where you have like eighty birds inside of a
little thing that you pull by hand. There's a lot
of farms that do a greenhouse that they pull with
a tractor, and there's us doing it at like the
large scale for pasture rays, which is these huge six
thousand birds systems that are driving themselves. I mean, anybody
(32:59):
can do it. There's no protection, there's nothing stopping you.
But the problem is there's kind of no reason to
do it because that pasture raise label can be slapped
on by people in a free range system, like up
until very recently, the USDA considered free range and pastuais
to be the same.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
Okay, So then how do you know that the chicken
at the grocery store that the eggs in the grocery
store are truly pasture raised.
Speaker 7 (33:22):
So a lot of people would say they're gonna hear
your question and be like, well, I can tell from
the yolk, Like the yolk's gonna be orange in the
true pastu raise. No, people like that is not how
you tell. The industry uses something called xanthophil, which is
a feed additive. What that can make that yoke any
color they want. So whether the birds have lived out
(33:42):
on green grass or they've never stepped foot outside.
Speaker 3 (33:44):
I can produce an or a yolk that's orange or.
Speaker 7 (33:47):
Red or bright yellow or even like shades of green,
Like I can make it any color through a synthetic
feed additive. That's what those guys are doing. So then
a lot of people are cracking this yok open. They're like, oh,
well look at this beautiful orange. Yeo, that's not orange
because the birds are outside. That's from a feet additive.
You know, So how do you really tell that's the problem,
(34:09):
Like people don't know they have there's no way to
really know other than knowing your farmer, which is.
Speaker 3 (34:14):
Not really like a that's not a.
Speaker 7 (34:16):
Realistic solution, like Joel talks about that a lot. Will
Harris talks about that a lot I love, and you've
had on as well. Most paper too busy, like they
can't really do that. So it becomes really really tough
for the working mom who's rushing through the grocery store
with three kids hanging onto the shopping cart, and they're like,
I want to feed my kids the best I can.
I'm going to grab the pasture raise, but they're paying
(34:37):
extra for a label, you know, fully smoke.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
Yeah, it's a bummer that is like a massive manipulation
tactic I wasn't aware of.
Speaker 7 (34:44):
And that's why I say, like, if you're doing free
range or even caged birds, like, if you're honest about it,
I actually respect it more sure than faking people.
Speaker 3 (34:51):
Like That's what bothers me the most.
Speaker 2 (34:53):
Why should antibiotic free chicken be a non negotiable for families?
Speaker 7 (34:58):
Well, I'm not act spurt on antibiotics, okay, I just
think eventually you are what you eat, and you are
what you eat eats, and with antibiotic resistance like spiking
throughout the country, we are like a family that never
takes antibotics for anything, you know. But there's a lot
of people that need antibotics, like medically they need to
(35:21):
be effective. Well if we're using them not just in
response to sickness, like in the poultry industry, they're used
prophologtically a lot, which means they're fed to the chickens
whether they got sick or not, because it kind of
helps them to grow faster.
Speaker 2 (35:34):
Mm hm.
Speaker 7 (35:35):
Those at nine billion animals entering the food supply every
single year, and that's going to develop an antibiotic resistance,
not just in the chicken, but some studies are saying
in humans too, if we're eating that chicken, So it's
a very dangerous thing to just be like stuffing animals
with antibiotics. And there are companies. Tyson is one company
who just went back, so they had no antibotics for
(35:57):
a long time. They just went back. They're like, nope,
we're going to.
Speaker 2 (35:59):
Add antibate wire places like chick fil A Tyson. Why
are they suddenly going from antibiotic free to just adding them.
Speaker 7 (36:05):
Back in all of a sudden Because the birds grow faster,
so economically it kind of makes more sense they convert
feed faster. Like it's mostly an economic incentive. It's not
consumer demand. Consumers do not want antibiotics in the chicken,
so it's not for that.
Speaker 2 (36:21):
I can't remember if it was on farming that they
were showing these chickens. So the way they're factory farming,
it's like it's like they can't move their legs are
basically they're just laying their limb but they're growing at
such a fast rate and they're getting so huge that
they can't walk and things like that, just so they
can be butchered and they're just creating more meat. What
(36:41):
are some of these factory farms doing to chickens to
just make a quick buck that is not actually healthy
for the consumer.
Speaker 7 (36:48):
So let's say like a normal chicken, Like the breeds
that we raise are going to be of maybe five
six pounds something like that. That animal can walk very well.
It's the same breed. Its like what you see in
a giant factory farm or whatever. It's the same breed.
But we're harvesting. And when they're five or six pounds
and they cruising around, they can still forage. They're doing
really well. I mean some places are raising those animals
(37:08):
to twelve pounds. It's like a turkey in a.
Speaker 2 (37:12):
Couple month span. Yeah, and why is that bad for
the meat when you're eating it.
Speaker 3 (37:17):
I don't know how to say it's bad for the meat.
Speaker 7 (37:20):
But the reason that they're going to do it is
because it costs kind of like the same to harvest
an animal, whether it's three pounds or twelve pounds, So
economically it makes sense to raise a bigger animal, and
then there's more meat on that animal compared to the bone.
Speaker 3 (37:31):
So it's like that's why they're doing it.
Speaker 2 (37:35):
From a moral standpoint, it's just wrong because you're just
that animal is miserable.
Speaker 7 (37:40):
And we talked about like being able to go outside
and express the chickenness of the chicken, like a twelve
pound chickens not going to just cruise outside, you know,
there's no way it's not walking around like that.
Speaker 3 (37:50):
You know.
Speaker 1 (37:59):
Welcome back to point tonight, where we are charting the
course of America's cultural comeback. Usually in this segment we
do something fun. It's Monday, so maybe we do Mega
Monday and show a bunch of videos of mag As winning,
as is generally the case nowadays. But instead, well, today
actually is my wife and I's seventh anniversary, March tenth,
twenty eighteen, So I'm gonna use the next couple of
(38:21):
minutes very briefly to discuss well what I see as marriage,
especially in the context of the conservative movement, and what
I've learned over the last couple of years. Of course,
we are the party of marriage, family, all great, all good,
But there's one thing that I don't know sticks out
to me whenever it's said, especially amongst conservatives. Pretty much
(38:44):
everybody likes to throw around this phrase, well, my wife
is my best friend, my husband is my best friend,
my spouse is my best friend. That's not really true. No,
my best friend is my best friend. And that's not
at all to diminish the value of the relationship I
have with my wife. It's actually the opposite. It's to
elevate that relationship. My wife isn't my best friend. My
(39:07):
wife is an extension of me. Same is I hope
that I'm an extension of my wife. We're one thing,
We're one unit, and a best friend doesn't do the
justice deserved to what that actually means. In Scripture, it
says several times in Genesis Ephesian's Mark that a man
(39:30):
leaves his mother and father to become one flesh with
his wife. That doesn't mean he leaves his mother and
father to become his spouse's best friend. No, it means
one flesh, one unit. And the only reason I say that,
and the only reason that it I don't know, kind
of irritates me a little bit is that if you
look at a marriage as well just two friends that
live together and share a family, well, it kind of
(39:53):
distorts the perspective you view the world in If we
look at every problem, every combative idea from the Libs
as well, a husband and wife a singular unit going
at it against the forces of leftism. We're gonna have
much better and stronger arguments to put together considering the
(40:17):
fact that we agree that your husband and wife is
not your best friend. You are one unit. So that
being said, Happy anniversary, babe, super excited to continue to
do life with you. That'll do it for us here
at turning Points tonight, Charlie is going to take us
out in a segment of his we will see you tomorrow,
same time, same place, God bless America.
Speaker 6 (40:43):
So much of our politics was defined by that term woke.
Speaker 3 (40:49):
Where did woke begin?
Speaker 6 (40:50):
Obviously thirty or forty fifty sixty years ago via the
Frankfurt School critical theory. But there was a moment during
COVID where it seemed as if the entire society exploded.
There was a moment that was caught on video that
triggered what is now known as Floyda Palooza. We weren't
(41:10):
allowed to think about it at the time. We're only
allowed to feel. We weren't allowed to ask very simple
questions about what's really going on here. And as a result,
the man in the video, Derek Chauvin, is now going
to send the rest of his life in prison when
now further examination allows us to re analyze this cultural flashpoint,
(41:33):
and a very brave man when it comes to this
particular topic, and a great man, Ben Shapiro is willing
to speak out and not just ask the question, but
advocate for a pardon for Derek Chauvin. Joining us now
is Ben Shapiro, host of The Ben Shapiro Show and
also the website is Pardon Derek dot Com, co founder
(41:54):
of The Daily Wire.
Speaker 3 (41:55):
Ben. Welcome to the program.
Speaker 1 (41:57):
Hey, Charlie, thanks much for having me.
Speaker 3 (41:58):
Really appreciate it.
Speaker 6 (42:01):
So Ben, I'm gonna just say the floor is yours.
For some people that have not been following this with
great detail, this might make them kind of take a second,
like a little pause in a second beat. Why are
you advocating for Derek Chauvin's pardon and what have you
learned the course of your research, in your rigorous pursuit
of the truth that has led you to this advocacy.
Speaker 5 (42:23):
Well, I think the reason that I'm advocating for the
pardon is because Derek Shauven is not guilty. And I
think that it's very important to explode narratives like the
one that you were talking about, because those narratives live
on in our memory as sort of flash points that
people draw upon as evidence of narratives that are false.
So the narrative that surrounded the Floyd Chauvin killing was
the narrative that America was inherently racist. Now, those allegations
(42:46):
were never actually made a trial. There was never any
allegation by prosecutors or by anyone that Derek Chauvin quote
unquote killed George Floyd because George Floyd was black.
Speaker 3 (42:53):
And yet that was the narrative.
Speaker 1 (42:54):
It burst out all over the country.
Speaker 5 (42:55):
The systemic American policing was racist, that America had to
undergo a sort of racial cleansing process that allowed for
two billion dollars in rioting, in fact, a process that
was so important that even if COVID was spreading around,
you were allowed to take off your mask and shout
in the streets for George Floyd and you would somehow
be free of COVID for doing all of these things.
Speaker 3 (43:13):
We all remember this.
Speaker 5 (43:14):
It was really a quite terrible time in American history,
and it was being excused by the entire left, all
of the legacy media. And in fact, if you didn't
post the black square in favor of Black Lives Matter.
You are basically non personed in terms of social media
and the way that you were approached in all these spaces. Now,
the reality of this particular death is now known, and
(43:36):
we know pretty much everything there is to know about it,
and there are a bunch of reasons why Derek Chauvin
should be parted. By the way, while in federal custody,
he was stabbed recently twenty one times by fellow inmates,
so it's quite dangerous for him. The reason why we
now know all of this is because we know from
jurors that they were pressured, that they felt the pressure,
that they were scared to rule in favor of Derek Chauvin.
Speaker 3 (43:58):
We now know, and we could see.
Speaker 5 (44:00):
It at the time, the amount of public pressure that
was brought in that particular case. The mayor of Minneapolis
was signing settlements with the family of George Floyd on
behalf of the city in the middle of the trial.
The governor of Minnesota at the time was, of course
Tim Walls, and Tim Walls was basically out there proclaiming
the guilt of Derek Chauvin. Joe Biden was running for
president at the time of twenty twenty, and he and
(44:20):
the rest of the Democratic regime were talking about how
Derek Chauvin was, how this was a key flashpoint in
American history, and how this was demonstrating sort of the
apex moment of all of American racism contains in this
particular incident. So, first, the first clue that this was
not true came, I think from that from the fact
that it was deemed an incident of American racism, and
(44:41):
never did anyone ever make a claim.
Speaker 1 (44:43):
They were not even federal hate crime charges.
Speaker 5 (44:44):
There was no claim that Derek Chauvin quote unquote killed
George Floyd because he was racist. Then you start to
look more into the details of the actual death of
George Floyd. Everything from the autopsy report, the original medical
examiner autopsy report suggested that he had died not of
failure to breathe because of pressure put on him, but
effectively of excited delirium fentanyl overdose. The idea in the
(45:07):
actual autopsy report suggested that he had enough fentanyl in
him that if he had just found this body on
a sidewalk, the medical examiner, then he would have immediately
determined that he had died of fentanyl overdose. We know
from the actual tape, So there were sections of the
tape that people thought they saw the eight minutes or
four minutes of the eight minute tape, and then.
Speaker 1 (45:25):
There was a lot of tape before that.
Speaker 5 (45:26):
So if you actually look at the incident in its entirety,
what you found out is that George Floyd was in
a car outside of a place of business where he
had passed a counterfit bill and the police came and
arrived was Derek Chauvin and the rest of the members
of the officers who were there, and Derek Chauvin arrested
George Floyd, and it appears that George Floyd either ingested
(45:47):
drugs that were on him or he was already high.
Speaker 3 (45:50):
The reason that he might.
Speaker 5 (45:51):
Have jested drugs is because literally a few years before,
we also have a videotape of George Floyd doing exactly that.
He was arrested and the Allstar had to force him
to spit out the drugs. They arrest him, they take
him out of his vehicle, they put him into the
vehicle of the police officers, and a crowd is already
gathering because this very often happens when there's a controversial
police procedure that's happening, and George Floyd is put into
(46:12):
the back of the police vehicle.
Speaker 3 (46:14):
He doesn't want to get in.
Speaker 5 (46:15):
He's complaining, he's saying that he's scared of being in
the car, that he's claustrophobic, and all the rest of
this kind of stuff. He gets in and immediately upon
entering the car, he starts shouting that he can't breathe.
Before he's on the ground, right, I can't breathe became
sort of the matter of the moment, the phrase of
the moment, people chanting I can't breathe in homage to
George Floyd. He was saying he could not breathe from
(46:36):
when he was in the car, suggesting either that it
was untrue that he could actually breathe because normally if
you can talk, he can breathe, but or that he
was already having difficulty breathing based on the fact that
he had a very large chart, that he had a
lot of drugs in his system, and that he was
actually having a medical issue before he was actually taken
out of the car by the way at his request.
Speaker 1 (46:55):
At his request, he said, I don't.
Speaker 5 (46:57):
Want to be in the car, and so they said, okay,
So they took him out of the car and they
put him in position on the ground. Now, the Minneapolis
police training model includes the sort of position that Derek
Chauvin was using.
Speaker 3 (47:07):
This was introduced at trial.
Speaker 5 (47:09):
Derek Schauvin had been taught this by the Minneapolis Police Department.
There is a normal procedure. In fact, the much of
the tape of him on George Floyds quote unquote neck
from a different angle is him.
Speaker 1 (47:20):
On George Floyd's shoulder.
Speaker 5 (47:21):
This was admitted by witnesses for the for the prosecution
that some of that time he was on George Floyd's shoulder. Now,
at some point during that eight minutes, George Floyd went nonresponsive.
It seems to be unclear to Chauvin when he was nonresponsive.
But there is no medical evidence that, for example, there
was damage to his trache yet which would cut off
the air. There is the there was no bruising on
(47:43):
his neck. So the autopsy and medical reports suggested again
that at best, there is certainly reasonable doubt that he
died because of the suppression technique, specifically that Derek Chauvin
was using
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