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Speaker 1 (00:08):
More and more information keeps coming about the Maryland father
who was deported. Oh no, he kind of just keeps
getting objectively worse. Also, Ilhan Omar, everyone's favorite congresswoman to
make fun of, didn't go high when that's what Michelle
Obama said, When they go low, we go high. And
also running is it the new privilege? Dropping on the woke?
(00:32):
Whatever they're talking about all before coming up on this
episode of thirty point Tonight, my name is Joe Bob.
Thanks so much for tuning in together. We are charting
the course of America's cultural comeback. This is turning point tonight. Now,
before we get to that and before we get to
our panel, there is a crazy thing going on in California.
But I repeat myself, if anything's going on in California,
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it's most likely crazy. Look, there is a bill called
AB three p. Seventy nine which has a pro vision
in it that Libs intentionally took out. What is the provision?
Will let me set this up first. Currently, the law
in California is such that if anyone solicits prostitution of
anyone under the age of sixteen, it is a misdemeanor
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or felony. In other words, it is a pretty big punishment. Now,
I use finger quotes to say prostitution because in California
the age of consent is eighteen. So if you're under eighteen,
well you don't get to consent, and therefore it's not prostitution.
It's sex slavery. We'll just call it what it is.
So that aside, the current law says, okay, well it's
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a felony if they're under sixteen and you attempt to
purchase them for sex, which again is horrible and we
want to get rid of. That goes without saying. However,
in this bill there was a provision that said, okay,
we're gonna include sixteen year olds and seventeen year olds
because currently the law is under sixteen, and that seems
thoroughly reasonable. So reasonable so that Gavin Newsome there left
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lib Democrat governor of California, said it's probably a pretty
good idea. Now instead of just past this law, the
California legislature the Assembly said absolutely not, we're not gonna
we're not going to put this into law, and actively
took it out. In other words, it wasn't something that
like I had this kind of slipped under the rug.
(02:21):
We didn't really notice at sixteen it was in the
bill to say, hey, we're gonna include sixteen year olds
and seventeen year olds in this because again, they can't consent,
they can't be legal prostitution workers. Even if you agree
whether or not that should be legal, I don't, but
that's beside the point. If you're under the age of eighteen,
you cannot consent, and therefore it's not okay. This bill
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had that in there, and Democrats actively took it out.
Why because California is where sanity goes to die. I
guess that's the only reason I think anybody could actually
give here to comments on that and so much more.
As host of the Chris Hand Show, Chris Hand and
Natalie jen Bisner, whose literal title, as she asked for
(03:03):
this is a former Democrat, so appreciate that. Guys, thanks
so much for joining us. Really appreciate it. Chris, I
want to start with you. So there was It wasn't
like a hey, this was left out of the bill
and nobody kind of saw this. There was an active
move by the California Democrats in the Assembly to say,
hold on, hold on this provision that says it makes
it a felony for sixteen and seventeen year old prostitution
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solicitation a felony. Let's actually actively take that out. We
all know California as the place fore sandity goes to die. Chris,
what what why?
Speaker 2 (03:37):
I have no idea. I think you said it best.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
Though.
Speaker 4 (03:39):
You can't have a child prostitute, you can have a
child sex slave. And that's exactly what's going on in California,
and the lawmakers there don't want to punish individuals going
after underage prostitutes.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
It's insane.
Speaker 4 (03:54):
Personally, I would advocate for wood chip or feet first.
I know that's a little bit extreme, but that's just
kind of the route that I would go. As a
father of four, I think that you need to go
that route with these kind of heinous crimes. The people
in California don't even want to punish these kind of
heinous crimes. I would act like I'm surprised, but it's
the state of California, and I don't think that there's
any surprise in them doing this kind of insane activity ever.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
Ever, Is there are you surprised?
Speaker 1 (04:19):
Yeah, Chris, that is a pretty controversial statement. Woods trop
or feet first, is a little bit more aggressive and
dangerous than headfirst. Headfirst. It's over almost immediately, And the
controversial statement of the day is feet first versus headfirst,
to be going to the wood chipper for I can
abusing children, which I think is probably an adequate penalty, Natalie.
(04:41):
Even Gavin Newsom has come out and said, like, this
is pretty reasonable. What are we doing, guys? And his
own party is going against him. Is there a competition
in California who can be the most woke? And if
I woke, you mean legalizing the abuse of kids? That
is that like what's going on here?
Speaker 5 (04:58):
Probably I'm in Californi And that's part of why I'm
no longer a Democrat, just to be like completely clear.
In my state currently, as of today, soliciting someone who
is sixteen or seventeen year old is a misdemeanor, not
a felony, and it's punishable by two days up to
a year in prison. And it's my understanding that up
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until last year when Newsom signed a law that soliciting
someone who's sixteen and seventeen, or soliciting someone who's under
the age of sixteen could have been punished as a
misdemeanor or a felony for your first offense. So it
was like the judge's choice, and now it's a felony
for under the age of sixteen. And like you said,
this bill had a provision that would have made it
a felony for sixteen and seventeen year olds, and the
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Democrats voted against it. And their reasoning was that they
said that teenagers who are LGBT or in interracial relationships
with someone who's maybe eighteen or nineteen, that their parents
were going to weaponize this law against those teams. And
I don't know why they specified LGBT or inter racial,
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because you could have, say, a white young woman who's
seventeen in a relationship with a white young man who's eighteen.
But what they really mean is that Christian conservative parents,
who they think are bigots and racists, are going to
use this to go after the black eighteen year old
man who's in a relationship with their seventeen year old
daughter or whatever else. It's it's completely crazy, and it's
(06:24):
again an example of them putting to interest and the
hypothetical feelings of like a very small minority over children,
just children of every color, every orientation, whatever else, just
everyone's feelings over children.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
Yeah, and it's it is ridiculous. Chris probably should have
show you this video before you got your answer, but
I want to get a brief reaction from you to this.
This is one of the co sponsors of the bill,
I believe, saying, well, let me know if you think
this person is in fact hinged or unhinged. Play that
clip real quick.
Speaker 6 (06:54):
The author and I are doubling down. But it's the
commitment that we bring a bill that is better than
what was presented. If you do not vote for this today,
well you said that you cared about sixteen and seventeen
year old was a lie.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
That you don't care? Yeah, their contention was, Well, the
only reason this provision was in there is Republicans playing politics,
and I think we just wouldn't as the video of
one of these post sponsors of the bill also playing politics. Quick, Chris,
do you have a quick reaction to that.
Speaker 4 (07:33):
She seems fun, She seems like somebody you'd want to
hang out with and have over your house for dinner.
Doesn't She no completely unhinged? But do you expect anything
else coming out of California? I honestly just feel bad
for these people. They walk through life so upset about
things they shouldn't be upset about, including making it a
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felony to solicit minor prostitutes.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
It's insane. These people need help.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
Yeah, it's a It is ridiculous. And speaking of things
that are ridiculous, I'm not sure if that was a
great enough transition. But the NPR, the National Public Radio,
or as some people call it, nakedly progressive radio, is
well facing some criticism by the conservatives, including President Trump,
who's trying to Now we talked about this. We don't
(08:19):
have time to explain the entire hierarchy of it, but
there's a an organization that the federal government funds, and
that organization funds a lot of individual radio stations and
TV stations that then purchase the syndicated NPR. Again, kind
of complicated. President Trump is going after their funding. Natalie.
You know, I think a lot of people who were
(08:40):
formally on the left, or even even moderately on the
right now maybe don't even mind NPR if they were
true to their cause of oh well we're you know,
we're down the middle. But unfortunately, there were zero people
in the NPR newsroom that identified as conservatives or Republicans.
You know, what is is this going to be welcomed
(09:01):
by the majority of American people who kind of think, yeah,
NPR has gone off the rails and if they're as
far left as they are now, they probably shouldn't deserve funding.
Is that you think that's something the American people will buy?
Speaker 5 (09:15):
Yeah, I think it's welcomed by anyone who's not an
unhinged progressive Democrat. I mean, there was pure research in
twenty nineteen that said that eighty seven percent of MPR's
audience identifies as Democrat, And there was actually a really
good I don't know if your listeners are familiar with it,
but there was a really good piece last year in
Barry Weiss's Free Press by someone who had worked for
MPR for twenty five years, was a liberal. Trump paid
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and he wrote kind of a tell all of how
they lost their diverse audience and for that he was
put on leave and then eventually kind of forced to
resign because there was so much hostility and if your
audience doesn't represent the American people by and large, which
is what this man was admitting, who hates Donald Trump
and is again a liberal raised by a lesbian, Well,
then why do you deserve our federal tax dollars? And
(09:59):
of course they're gonna act like the sky is falling,
but really, if you look at it, it's like PBS.
Their federal funding is fifteen percent of PBS's budget and
one percent of mprs. So everything's probably going to continue
as normal, and they're going to keep being a mouthpiece
for the DNC and no one's even going to notice
that this happened or that federal funding was cut. But
of course they're going to act like, you know, this
guy's falling.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
Well, that's the thing is direct federal funding is a
small percentage of it, but they go this roundabout way
and it actually funds like closer to half, if not
sixty percent of it. Christ I'm curious here, you know.
So do you think in order to attempt to avert
Trump pulling funding, NPR will try and go more of
the conservative route, or at least be somewhat down the middle.
(10:40):
And if they're gonna do that, they're gonna have to
hire people that may be more conservative. And if they
do that, would you be willing to take your radio
show to NPR in order to hopefully get them to
avert the gays of President Trump. Try to cut their funding.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
No, and I don't even know what that would look like.
Speaker 4 (10:57):
If they tried to be more conservative or more down
in the middle, I feel like we wouldn't agree with
it anyway. But I mean, without the taxpayers funding this stuff,
how are we going to get hard hitting reporting from NPR,
like stories about cannibalism and eating women's placentas. That's a
real story, by the way. How are we going to
learn about all of the wonderful things that the left
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is doing and all the evil things that the Trump
administration is doing. It's funny when they did the RNC
and the DNC, it was seventy two percent negative coverage
for the RNC, eighty eight percent positive coverage for the DNC.
This is not a non partisan organization by any stretch
of the imagination. And I think if they had to
monetize it, and we've talked about this before, if they
had to monetize it in the same way that my
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radio station monetizes it privately, I think that they would fail.
I'm more excited about the PBS losing their funding. As
a dad of four kids, I am so frustrated when
Elmo is pushing vaccines and Pride Month, and when Arthur
is telling kids that white people are racist. I don't
think that has any place in a kid's show. And
I don't think any parent who was raised on PBS,
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if they're not paying attention, is safe to leave their
kids watching PBS unguarded. So I'm more looking forward to
that aspect of it. I think adults can figure things
out for themselves for the most part, but the kids
going after the kids is always much more touching for me.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
Yeah, until they start airing reruns of Mister Rogers, I
don't think I'm letting my kids watch PBS anytime soon.
Christ and Natal will be back right after the break
to discuss the Maryland Father and everyone's favorite congresswoman to
dislike ilhan Omar. All that more coming up after the break,
unkle Oi will be right back after this. Welcome back
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to turning Point Tonight. We're together. We are charting the
course of America's cultural comeback. My name is Jobob. Thanks
so much for sticking with us. I think We've all
seen just about enough as we can handle of the
Maryland Father. First, he was a Maryland father that was
stripped away from his family. Then okay, wait, well he's
in illegal and I thought, okay, wait, well he's also
a gang member. Oh oh, it actually turns out that
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he might have beaten his wife according to court documents.
Oh wait, he was pulled over human trafficking. Yet another
thing came out about the Maryland father that Democrats are
so eager to defend and go down and pay homage to,
as the senator from Maryland did. Let's bring our panel
back so we can listen to this audio. So we
probably heard the story that the wife or just baby mom,
(13:33):
I'm not even sure if they're legally married of the
Maryland father filed a court complaint that's while he was
domestically abusing her, which again is terrible. Nobody's trying to
make light of that or belittle that in any way,
shape or form. But now there's audio that well backs
up the already written statements that we've already seen. Let's
listen to this and get your guys reaction.
Speaker 7 (13:54):
I've came to fill out of protective order I think
was in December, but I didn't show up to the
court because his family like washed my brain telling me
that his dad was sick and not to do it,
I would call the police. I have a lot of
police reports. And I kept turning to get to the
door basement to try to open the door, and then
(14:16):
like he pushed me. So then when I was able
to go outside to get a phone, I called out
one from a disconnected phone. So I saw a neighbor
walking his dog, and I opened the door and I
was like help. And then when he heard me, like
he grabbed me from my hair and then he slapped me.
And then the neighbor like he didn't know what to do,
he didn't know what to react. I have pictures of
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the evidence, like all the bruises, because even on Wednesday
he hit me like around like three in the morning,
he would just wake up and like hit me. And
then last Saturday, for my daughter's birthday party, before I
went to my daughter's birthday party, he slapped me three times.
And then last week I did call the police. My
sister called the police because he hit me in front
of my sister.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
Holy cow, that's honestly kind of difficult to listen to.
Natalie my question then after hearing that, even though we
already knew we had the writing samples for the actual
court filing that she listed. It just makes it worse somehow.
Why was this guy even still in the country. That's
what I'm now asking is like, holy cow, it feels
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like this there was enough evidence to boot this guy
out a long time ago. What was going on there?
Speaker 5 (15:26):
Yeah, I mean, you're absolutely right. The coverage on this
has been crazy. I was just on college campuses this
week with walk Away, and so many of the kids
there think that this guy is a US citizen who
was deported. And now we have all of this information
coming out. I mean, did you see the body cam
footage that came out of Tennessee in the last couple
of days when he was pulled over in twenty twenty two,
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and right there on the camera, one of the law
enforcement officers says he's hauling people for money. And then
apparently they called the FBI under Joe Biden, and the
FBI said, don't attain this. So then they just released
this guy who they knew was trafficking, and now we
come to find out that he's also an abuser. And
(16:08):
you said it in the beginning that Democrats have kind
of shifted their message away from Maryland Dad, and now, oh,
it's not about him, it's about due process. Because I
think it's like a point of pride. They know that
they're too far into this, they can't back out now,
and they just choose the worst people to be their heroes.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
Yeah. I can't get through my head what is going
on on that side? Unless, of course, is this actually
a lot of people don't know this, Chris in deep
buried in Article eight of the Constitution. It actually the
founding father said that the craziest people among us have
to defend illegal gang banging, wife beating to domestic traffickers.
(16:47):
Almost got through that without laughing. But they don't have
to defend them. Chris, what is If there's a message
to libs, I would say, you don't there's no requirement
that you have to defend this guy. Why are they
continuing to do it?
Speaker 2 (17:01):
I don't know, man, it's the insanity of the left.
Speaker 4 (17:03):
And I guess it just goes back to Trump arrangement
syndrome and Orange man bad. But part of me looks
at the wife and I go, what are you doing?
And I tried to think about this last night, and
I'm thinking she doesn't want to give up that give
send go man. She's raising too much money off the
back of this Maryland man that we all know as
a gang member. We all know he's a spousal abuser,
human trafficker. You know you were talking about the body
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cam footage. It was hard to understand what he was
saying underneath that thick Maryland accent. But when you got
to the police, you can understand what they were saying
because you know they had the Tennessee accents. It was
a little bit easier for me being in Tennessee. But
the police said, they're hauling ass These guys are assholeers.
They're making money trafficking humans, and this is who the
left defends. I don't want to interrupt the left. I
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don't want to interrupt our enemies while they're making a mistake.
But you would think that they would have some little
bit at least in the back of their mind, just
iota of knowing this is probably a bad idea.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
Yeah, it's hard to stop your enemies when they're punching
themselves in the face, but at the same time, it's
very difficult to watch. Also, yeah, it's probably just overt TDS,
which I think we had a panelist on the other day,
saying that trumpt arrangement syndrome might actually be the biggest
epidemic surpassing COVID that is spreading around the world, you know,
speaking of the Maryland Father, one of our favorite congresswomen,
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at least I think I can call her a congressman.
Maybe a Congress day, I'm not actually sure. Ilhan Omar
was asked by I believe, a Daily Caller Foundation reporter
about the Democrats paying homage to the Maryland Father, and
this was her response.
Speaker 8 (18:38):
Watch this, congress Woman, Omar, I'm Miles Morale with a
Daily Caller News Foundation. Do you think more of your
Democratic colleague should be traveling to El Salvador to advocate
on the app of a bittego Garcia.
Speaker 9 (18:48):
I think you should.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
I'm sorry, what congress who should you? Why me? We're
not taking any of my questions right now, but here
you go. Yeah, thanks, Natalie. I am reminded of the
iconic Michelle Obama speech when they go low, we go high,
and of course Ilhan Omar exemplifying the fact that they
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just take the high road every single time, and that's
just what they do, you know, considering the fact that
the biggest thing that Dems have or the Libs have
in general, is this good feeling, heartfelt, motivational. How does
that play into that or is it the fact that
they're just getting so frustrated the only thing they can
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resort to is yelling epithets at people.
Speaker 5 (19:35):
Yeah, they seem to like the effort lately. I think
of like Jasmine Crockett who said I think fu when
she was asked about Elon Musk. They just like to
insert that in anywhere. And honestly, I know we're not
surprised by this, but it is a little bit shocking
that she is a sitting representative and she's asked what
is a legitimate question, and she doesn't even try to
answer it or try to spin the answer or even
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just ignore it. That she just like lets that fly
out and then doubles down and then triples down later
on social media. And honestly, you know, I'm kind of
in a minority on the right. I don't even really
like it when someone like Nancy Mace gets a little
too argumentative I think, and not professional and doesn't represent
as well. But then ilhan Omar comes in and is like,
hold my beer and does something that's one hundred thousand
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times worse. And I mean, she's supposed to serve at
the will of the people, and I really just don't
think that this is it. It's also like a walking
billboard for why Democrats shouldn't be in power anymore and
why we ironically need to be strict on immigration, you know,
which is what she was kind of asked about there.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
So yeah, you mentioned that tweet too. She retweeted that,
and like I said, no, I stand by what I say.
F Off spelled it out, Chris. You know, she's got
to run for reelection every two years. This is a
congressional seat, so two years comes pretty fast. I would
imagine anybody in that district, even Democrats trying to primary
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her from her own party, would be running that ad NonStop.
Do you think at this point, given all of the
thing she said, is this the breaking point that gets
her booted out of officely, do you think that's gonna
make any difference whatsoever?
Speaker 2 (21:07):
No.
Speaker 4 (21:07):
No, In the district of Somalia where she is, she
has a lot of supporters and this this is just
gonna be a feather in her cap.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
I don't think that she has to worry about it
at all. In fact, out of all the.
Speaker 4 (21:17):
Democrats, I think that she's probably one of the safest.
You know, let's be perfectly honest. People love her. But
this new face of the Democrat Party that we're seeing,
you know you mentioned Jasmine Crockett, ilhan Omar is right
in there is this the dark woke that we have
been told about where you're getting a little bit rude,
a little bit crude, and you're you know, letting the
swear words fly.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
It's okay if that's what you want to do.
Speaker 4 (21:37):
I thought you were gonna play the clip of her
talking about American values, which I thought was even funnier
because you know, she married her brother and her father
was you know, complicit in genocide when he was in
his home country.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
So there's that.
Speaker 4 (21:49):
But no, I don't think I don't think she has
to worry about reelection.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
I think she's gonna be good to go.
Speaker 4 (21:53):
And I think that this is just emblematic of the
left and their supporters are going to eat this all
the way up.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
I disagree. I think Ilhanomar perfectly represents traditional Christian American values. Chris,
I don't see what you're when you're talking about at all.
Of course I'm kidding. Speaking of people who I would
I would say don't represent traditional American values, Tim Walls's daughter.
And look, I'm not a big fan of pulling family
members of powerful people into the conversation. But at the
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same time, if you're gonna be out there talking with
authority because your parent is the governor of a state,
sorry your fair game. Here is the young little Walls
talking about the new form of what probably will be
the next white supremacist movement. To watch this.
Speaker 10 (22:41):
Running as an act is political. And you know who
taught me that, Tim Walls. The first thing you told
me when I was first getting into it in high
school was that running is a privilege, and being a
part of the running community is a privilege that not
all people have access to, whether it be you just
having the time to run, access like to funds to
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buy the gear, access to you know, healthy quality foods
that fuel you as your training and as you're running,
access to you know, a safe, stable situation that allows
you to be in a good mental state to be
able to run. All of those things are hard to
come by, and if you have them and are a
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part of the running community, that is a privilege.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
Yes, a new privilege has just dropped. Chris. Do we
do we push back on this sort of stuff or
do we just go sure, you say this as much
as you want and see if people come over to
your side and allow people allow the everyday average person,
who I think would look at that and roll their
eyes to do just that.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
Yeah. I don't know, man.
Speaker 4 (23:46):
It's not every day that a clip can come on
and make alan Omar seem a little bit more.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
Sane than we thought just moments ago. But here we are.
Speaker 4 (23:52):
You know, when she says check your privilege with running,
I just think of all those white European runners that
are winning marathons and you know, the big races in
the Olympics, and I think, yeah, you're right, You're right,
this is a white supremacist sport. And then I think
of the barefoot Ethiopian who won a marathon, you know,
with no gear at all. Check your privilege at the doorpal,
Apparently you're a Nazi as well. This is one of
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the most insane clips that I've seen from her, and
she's been putting out a lot of clips. I agree
with you leaving the families out of it, but she
has entered herself into this conversation, so at this point.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
She's fair game.
Speaker 4 (24:24):
And I just wonder, are you getting your talking points
from I don't know, chat GPT, Like, is there a
woke version of chat gpt where she gets all of
her talking points because they all seem very, very sterile
and very similar to the last video that we saw.
But she's she's insane, don't I don't understand it? And
she said this is the first thing her dad taught
her when she got into running.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
Check your potra.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
Ridiculous, Natalie. I so is there a next step for this?
What can we predict is going to be the next
version of privilege or white supremacy or whatever it is?
Is it baking, is it mowing your What are the
next what's the next thing? And should we start a
gambling pool on what they're going to come up with next?
Speaker 5 (25:07):
I don't know. Maybe being the sane is a white privilege.
Speaker 4 (25:10):
I don't.
Speaker 5 (25:11):
I don't really know someone. So I think someone needs
to take her phone away because, like Chris said, I
it's like every week some stupid video comes out and
she's not doing her dad any favors. I mean, when
Tim opens his mouth he's not doing him any himself
any favors, but his daughter is not helping at all.
And when I first watched this, I assume she meant
running for office, which would, like maybe kind of make sense.
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But then I realized she meant just running down the street,
which makes no sense whatsoever. And I really can't believe
that this is what her dad taught her. Like Chris said,
I mean, maybe he said running being part of the
running team is a privilege, not a right. But did
he genuinely me I guess it's Tim Walls, like he
genuinely meant that running is white privilege. And I mean
(25:55):
that she tries to tie it into climate change and
how if we deport people, they can't be part of
the running community. I mean, it makes no sense at
all whatsoever.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
Yeah, that's a good point. If you run too much,
you might change the weather on accident, and that would
be bad. Chris and Natalie, thank you guys so much
for joining us. Really appreciate you taking the time.
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Speaker 11 (26:49):
So why did a strict carnivore diet at first appeal
to you? And then why did you switch to animal
based which includes fruit, honey, and dairy. Right?
Speaker 12 (27:00):
Yeah, So I have struggled with autoimmune issues my whole life.
When I was a kid, I was over medicated by
my parents for my asthma. So asthma and exzema are
part of this allergic triad. Hay fever is the third
part of this triad. So like allergies, it's called a
top or atopic dermatitis is exema And I remember getting
theater which is theoflin and my apple sauce as a kid,
and it tastes bitter and it makes you kind of hyper.
(27:22):
That's the way we used to treat asthma was with
an oral medication called Theofflin. My parents would force me
to take my albuterol inhaler at dinner. I didn't want
to do the medications, but I was They were trying
to do the best for me, but they really over
medicated me because I had these issues as a child. Now,
granted I was a child eating a standard American diet.
I know my parents wanted to do good, but I
was sitting at you know, in the living room with
(27:45):
my father watching TV, eating a hungry Man TV dinner.
Really yeah full. I mean it was in the nineteen eighties,
so it probably wasn't as bad as junk food is now,
but it's still pretty horrible. I'm surely full of seed oil.
So I was eating pasteurized milk, you know, factory farmed meat,
factory farm chicken, seed oils and all of the grains,
no limitations, no real attention to nutrition when I was
(28:05):
a kid, And it wasn't any surprise to me in
retrospect that I had auto immune issues. So I struggled
with them throughout my life, and they sort of they
were they fluctuated. Sometimes they were worse, sometimes they were better.
But I had a number of exzema flares in my
life that were pretty bad. And eczema is like a itchy,
bumpy rash, and sometimes it's just cosmetic or a nuisance,
but other times it can be really a really problematic thing.
(28:26):
When I was in medical school, I started doing jiu jitsu,
like so wrestling on mats, and when I would get
XIMA on my knees, it would get infected from the
mats and you get sort of a superinfection called impetigo,
So you get a skin infection where the skin is
cracked and open from this exima. And I mean there,
I've had times in my life when we axima was
so bad that it affected my just my sense of self.
I mean I remember being on a date with a
woman when I was in residency and I had eczema
(28:47):
on my arms so bad that I told her it
was poison oak. I don't know why I was so
embarrassed to tell her it was exema, but that was
really the breaking point for me when I was in
my residency. So probably like late thirties, I'm just sick
of this recurrent exima my whole life, and I'm thinking,
why do I still have ecima at that point in
my life in my late thirties, I'm still eating I'm
(29:08):
eating a much better diet. I'm eating basically entirely organic.
I'm eating meat. I'm eating fruit, but I'm eating nuts,
I'm eating seeds, I'm eating vegetables, and I might have
eaten milk sometimes. But you know, I was eating basically
like a paleotype diet, so not really restricting any food group,
but not eating junk food anymore. And still I'm having
major flares of exima. So I kind of threw my
hands up. And I heard about this thing called the
(29:28):
carnivore diet. I actually heard Jordan Peterson talking about it
on Joe Rogan's.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
Podcast No Way, Yeah.
Speaker 12 (29:32):
And I'm in residency, right, so I've been to medical school,
and I just thought this is so interesting. Autoimmune illness
is rampant, and I think that autoimmunity affects so many
of us. You're having your issues with it too, right
in ways that we're not even understanding as humans, what
is causing us to have these autommune issues. And I
heard him talk about carnivor, and I thought, what if
it's some of these plant foods that we think are
(29:52):
healthy that are actually triggering our immune system. And I
can talk about why they might do that in a moment,
but I did a strict carnivor diet. At that point
or a year and a half, exima gets way better,
It completely resolves. But I'm only eating meat and organs
like liver and heart and animal fat and salt. For
a year, a year and a half, a.
Speaker 11 (30:10):
Year and a half, you did only those things, only
those things, And then when and why did you decide really, okay,
let me add some other stuff.
Speaker 12 (30:16):
So eventually I started to have issues with electrolyte balance,
probably related to long term ketosis. So there's a lot
of talk about ketosis or ketodiets or low carbohydrate diets now,
but I really think that in a lot of people,
those are very stressful. And what we know is that
insulin is this peptide hormone in the human body that
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gets released when you eat carbohydrates. It also gets released
when you eat protein, not so much with fat. But
insulin is valuable. Insulin gets a bad wrap. Some people
in the health space are saying you should never see insulin,
you should minimize it as much as possible. I don't
believe that. I think that insulin is clearly valuable for humans,
and insulin gets out of whack when you get underlying
metabolic dysfunction. But insulin doesn't cause the metabolic dysfunction. It's
something else, which we can talk about. But what happens
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is when you don't enough of an insulin signal and
on a keidogenic diet, you get a very low insulin signal.
You don't hold on to electrolytes at the level of
your kidneys. I just never taught this in medical school.
You need insulin to reabsorb sodium, potassium, calcium, and chloride
at the level of your kidneys and the descending tubules
and all these loops within your kidneys that sort of
help you manage your fluid and your electrolytes in your
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human body. So it's very interesting to me that in
my case and in a lot of people's cases who
do long term keto, you end up with just massive
electrolyte insufficiency, and you.
Speaker 11 (31:29):
Feel, what the max amount of time you should do
strict hardcore carnivore diet.
Speaker 12 (31:34):
You know, I think it's going to be very dependent
on the individual, and I actually don't think most people
need to start there at all. What I learned from
it was valuable, though, and I don't want to gloss
over this. What I learned was that many of the
foods that I thought were healthy, whether it was salad
or nuts, or seeds or in my case probably mushroom extracts,
we're probably triggering my exima. So there's a value there
(31:55):
for people to understand that a lot of auto immune
issues I believe are triggered. Not entirely. This isn't the sea,
but I think for a lot of people autoimmuneitions can
be triggered by foods we think are healthy oats or
quinoa or spinach or kale, or broccoli or almonds.
Speaker 11 (32:07):
Well, it's just like an individual food allergy.
Speaker 12 (32:10):
It's very individual. Yeah, a food sensitivity probably, yeah, And
a carnihore diet is so precise that it can really
help understand that. But my transition to animal based was
this sort of thought process of saying, can I eat
more foods, more variety, more flavor, more color, but also
not trigger my immune system. And what I found is
that for me and for a lot of other people,
just through experimentation and sort of crowdsourcing this information, you think, oh,
(32:34):
when you think about plants, the fruit is the colorful
part of the plant that the plant wants you to eat.
And this is the problem with vegetables I think for
a lot of people is that vegetables are the leaves,
the stems, the roots, and the seeds of plants, and
these are the parts that plants don't want you to eat.
So there's a clear communication going on here, and it's
hems at communication between plants and animals or plants and humans.
(32:56):
These are the parts of the plant that the plant
needs to photosynthesize to gather energy for the sun to
make sugar, to have their energy. But plants can't run
away from us. So between you know, over the last
four hundred to five hundred million years of divergent animal
and plant evolution, plants have developed thousands and thousands of
defense chemicals. We're never really told about this, and humans
(33:16):
and other animals in turn have developed mechanisms and somatic
systems to detoxify those plant defense chemicals. But not all
of us are great at that, and some of us
have problems with those defense chemicals, and they can be
harmful for humans. So the idea that kale is entirely
good for humans, I would argue with that.
Speaker 11 (33:33):
So you think kale is bullshit.
Speaker 12 (33:35):
I do think kale is bull Generally, that's a black
and white statement that has kind of been made historically,
and it's kind of fun because it gets people thinking
about it.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
What are their vegetables?
Speaker 11 (33:42):
But like you were really anti kale, but is there
any of their top vegeables that you're like, do not
eat this?
Speaker 12 (33:46):
Spinach is a big one. Okay, Spinach is a big
one because of oxalates. So oxalates are essentially oxalic acid.
It's a dicarboxylic acid. It's a breakdown product of amino
acids in the human body that we can get large
amount ont in food, much much higher than we would.
Speaker 11 (34:02):
What's this like whole campaign? Like why was it drilled
into us as kids that like spinach is so healthy,
Like that's the ultimate vegetable.
Speaker 12 (34:08):
I think Popeye just let us all astray, Like I
don't know, I mean there's there's there's urban myth that
potentially the whole deal with Popeye was related to a
misplaced decimal point having to do with iron.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
What.
Speaker 12 (34:21):
Yeah, So if you think about so let's just think
about spinach because it's a good model system. So when
you think about spinach, like what's beneficial about spinach? Well,
it probably has some be vitamins, it has some fole
eight and it has iron in it, and a lot of
people are deficient in iron.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
It's hard to get meat for.
Speaker 12 (34:34):
All of us, you know, whether we don't can't afford it,
or we don't have access to it. Like people all
over the world often don't eat enough meat, So plant
foods with iron can be valuable. Iron deficiency anemia appears
to be very common in humans, especially women who menstrate
every month and lose iron when they're bleeding. But the
iron in spinach is just not nearly as bioavailable as
the iron in meat, which is heme iron.
Speaker 11 (34:55):
What kind of meat would have the most red meat okay?
Speaker 12 (34:58):
Or dark meat?
Speaker 1 (34:58):
Chicken?
Speaker 3 (34:59):
Okay?
Speaker 12 (34:59):
In fact, there's if you think about organs, the spleen
has the most iron. Some people eat eaten spleen in
the past. That's a whole separate story.
Speaker 1 (35:06):
I'm not sour probed, I know, right.
Speaker 12 (35:08):
But in terms of things that we commonly eat, it
would be red meat that has the most iron in it.
Speaker 11 (35:12):
So if somebody goes full carnivore, what are like the
immediate benefits that are going to start seeing?
Speaker 12 (35:17):
I think that their gut is probably going to get quieter.
They're probably gonna have less gas and bloating, although some
people when they cut out all fiber, go the other
direction and get a little diarrhea because sometimes we need
the fiber to hold on to or at least manage
the recycling.
Speaker 1 (35:32):
Of bile acids.
Speaker 12 (35:33):
But some people who go strict carnivore do have like
less problems with their gut less gas, less floating. A
lot of people who with strict carnivore do have improvements
in autoimmune issues, whether it's autoimmune thyroid disease or skin
issues like psoriasis and ecima, or autoimmune gut issues like
Crohn's colitis or al sort of colitis. Basically, you know,
being in the carnivore space for years now and then
(35:54):
sort of being carnivor adjacent now. I've heard probably thousands
of stories almost every diagnosed autoimmune condition getting better with
intentional dietary changes. But what's interesting to me is that
I haven't really heard that many people say that these
things come back or get worse when they add a
few foods in their diet like fruit, okay, and make
it much more manageable long term.
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we got to get to fun Friday. This first clip
I thought was, well, it's fun for us to watch.
(37:35):
It probably wasn't fun for either of the people experiencing it.
In the moment, there is an argument between a what
I believe is a boyfriend and a girlfriend, and the
boyfriend takes some extreme measures in order to get out
of that argument. I'm not sure if I can blame him,
but we'll let you be the judge watch this. You know,
(38:12):
I am inclined to say that's never okay. However, there's
like one percent of me that goes give me the context.
What were they talking about? What was that argument over?
And maybe there may be a small little bit of
justification that would say, yeah, I might have jumped out
of that window. Also, maybe I don't know, she was
telling him I'm a Democrat and I voted for Obama
(38:34):
and Obiden and Kamala Harris, and maybe that would have
warranted the guy jumping out of the window. I think
it actually might let's get this next clip. I think
this is fun making fun of libs by being libs.
It's sometimes difficult to tell sarcasm and satire, and this
blurs that line just a little bit. Watch this.
Speaker 13 (38:54):
Oh my god, I'm so sorry.
Speaker 4 (38:55):
I'm late.
Speaker 1 (38:56):
I was getting a triple.
Speaker 12 (38:57):
Abortions to make I identify as we're in a polycule.
So there's five other people that were dating as well,
and four of them are undocumented.
Speaker 1 (39:09):
No eating until you do your land acknowledgement.
Speaker 14 (39:13):
Me me is.
Speaker 12 (39:15):
Murder, living in a free Palestine, the last one.
Speaker 1 (39:24):
I'm living in a free Palestine encampment. The problem is
all of those are real things. You have people protesting,
blocking traffic, saying met it is murder. You have people
living in free Palestine encampments. You have people that are
in whatever a polycule is. I guess they're dating five
other people at once, and that that's a thing. I
(39:45):
guess the issue. I keep going back to this. Our
friend Seth Dylan at the Battlon b is the hardest
job in all of the world, trying to make fun
of people that are doing things so objectively absurd that
it's difficult to even satirized. Because yeah, all of the
things about that is funny and interesting going into the weekend.
(40:07):
I feel like this is a an apt and appropriate
reminder from it looks like a priest here that well
he's talking about church, and you know, if you don't
like it, he has some suggestions. You don't like church,
(40:31):
try again. You have a chance to do that this Sunday.
I have a great weekend. That's gonna do it with
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We will see a Monday, same time, same place. Have
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from the news of the day because you only need
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and all the other shows that you do watch. But
we'll see a Monday, save time, say place, God bless America.
Speaker 3 (40:57):
Well, it's important to note too that the stock market
is not the economy. The stock market can re react
to jitterism news. The economy is growing incredibly strong and
is only going to grow stronger with the tax cut
that we see coming and deregulation. Let's go to CNBC.
Let's play Cut four eighty three.
Speaker 14 (41:13):
Job Job jobs report for April hitting the wires. Non
farm payrolls are greater one hundred and seventy seven thousand.
We're expecting, as Joe pointed out, one hundred and thirty
three thousand. One hundred and seventy seven thousand would be
the second best of the year outside of what's in
the rear view mirror.
Speaker 3 (41:34):
Now you have to wonder, are the Democrats happy about this?
I mean, they're the ones saying that the recessionist. Are
they thrilled that the American economy is doing better and
it's actually only going to further improve. You See, the
prediction was that by now we would have major job losses.
We have the tariffs. They said, by the summer, we're
going to see major drop offs. But this job's report
has exceeded expectations.
Speaker 8 (41:51):
Well, yeah, this this just reminds me of just about
every other chapter of President Trump's political career, where the
elites and the experts tell us he's doing it wrong,
only to find out in the end that he's doing
it right, that his instincts have been right all along.
Now he's not right about everything. Listen, We're free to
disagree with President Trump, but I time and time again,
whether it's foreign policy, energy policy, tariffs. President Trump has
(42:15):
an instinct for these things. He's a businessman, He's seen
it up close and personal. I've always been a fan
of teriffs. We have internal disagreements on our team about tariffs.
I get it that it causes jitters in the short term,
but we're already seeing, especially with like auto manufacturing, where
they're starting to replace you know, producers and their supply chains.
(42:36):
They're reshoring those supply chains. They're already working on it.
Ford has come out said they're building two new plants, Hondai, Toyota.
All of them are making moves to re shore supply chains,
which is going to increase America.
Speaker 3 (42:49):
And also remember remember they told us that if the
border was closed, it would creater America without cheap illegal labor.
This is a very important point. The border is completely secure,
ninety nine percent border cross incredible, and we have deportations happening.
So it turns out actually when you close the border,
more Americans get hired. That actually on the books like
what a concept. Well, and it's a direct correlation with
(43:10):
you close the southern border and American jobs actually increase.
Speaker 8 (43:13):
There's actually a clip from Bernie Sanders in twenty fifteen
talking about how he is not for open borders. Why
because that depresses American wages. This is a very very
clear line, and you've made this point on the show
a bunch of times, and it's a point that it's
worth reiterating. Is that we are looking down the barrel
of an ai revolution, of a robotic revolution. So if
you're going to keep, you know, flooding your country with
(43:36):
cheap third world.
Speaker 3 (43:37):
Labor it's unnecessary.
Speaker 8 (43:38):
You're also going to be causing a problem down the
road where those jobs no longer exist. And that timeframe
is way closer than most people realize.
Speaker 3 (43:46):
Here's Scott Best cut one forty five talking about how
the doomsday or said it was going to be the
worst stock market ever. Again, the stock market is not
the economy. The stock market can react to economic news.
But we're seeing the stock market catch up remarkably. I
think the Dow was at forty one thousand this morning.
Speaker 15 (44:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (44:02):
Again, invest for the long term, everybody, play cut one
forty five.
Speaker 15 (44:06):
There was a story ten days ago that said this
is the worst April for the stock market since the
Great Depression. Ten days later, the Nasdaq is now up
on the month of April, and I haven't seen a
story that says, oh, stock market has biggest bounce back.
Speaker 2 (44:22):
Ever, so it certainly has gone back and forth.
Speaker 3 (44:25):
With I think a lot of this is media driven,
of course, And this is the most important clip of
them all, which is this is Joel Schilman, who's a
CEO of a company called e Shares. Even these CEOs
believe the propaganda. They think like, well, the economy must
be bad because everyone says the economy is bad. So
he is on the front lines of hiring and investing,
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and he's even surprised to how good the numbers are.
Let's play cut forty nine.
Speaker 16 (44:51):
What's interesting the numbers, by the way, we're very I
was a little surprised to say, how's the stronger they were.
But this is very encouraging because we're already seeing many
of the companies dependent upon foreign suppliers already reshoring some
of their jobs. In fact, I've talked I talked to
just recently to a couple of entrepreneurs who are getting
off their China dependency. They are going to other Southeast
(45:13):
Asia companies for their supplies, and they're starting to look
at the mass stakes and manufacturers. So they're putting orders
in already for the third and fourth quarter for this So.
Speaker 3 (45:24):
And you combine all this together, President Trump, this economy
will only get better. And it's very important everybody, because
the media has almost been calling and cheering for an
economic collapse. I mean, can you think of anything more
sinister and more wicked than a group of people that
want Americans to suffer? They actually, if they got their way,
the market would go down to you know, twenty five thousand,
(45:47):
and people would be out of work. They see see
I told you Trump is this terrible and awful person.
Speaker 8 (45:50):
Well, it's an existential dilemma for them, though, Charlie, because
if Trump succeeds, that means their entire worldview is cast
into these.
Speaker 3 (45:56):
These are bad people. I hate to say it that way.
They're not patriots. If you are cheering for the on
fall of America and you're cheering for if you want
bad economic news, then you care much more about political
power than any sort of patriotic allegiance to the United States.
You wanted to play a piece of tape here.
Speaker 8 (46:11):
Yeah, I want to play Charles pain forty four, one
more piece of econ here, and this is talking about
manufacturing directly forty four.
Speaker 13 (46:18):
As I look at this initially, the one thing that
really jumps out to me that I love transportation in warehousing. Yeah,
pretty nine thousand. The product something is manufacturing. Some of
these deals that the White House has announced, maybe we're
starting to see that already play out.
Speaker 3 (46:35):
Well, we'll talk about it.
Speaker 8 (46:37):
I mean, this is so the White House has said
that it's over five hundred or five trillion dollars in
foreign investment in manufacturing. And by the way, speaking to
our earlier point about technology and robotics and AI, this
these are investments in warehousing, data, warehousing, energy capacity. These
are high tech investments in the future from Apple and
(46:59):
Video and others. Soft bank. This is this is not
like you know those images in your head of the
steel welders, although we love the steel steel mills, don't
get me wrong.
Speaker 1 (47:08):
This is this is the jobs.
Speaker 3 (47:09):
Of the advanced manufacturing exactly. Okay, we got to get
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I thought was a phenomenal segment that Jesse Waters did
with Doge. I don't know if you guys caught it
or not. It was a really really good picture of
the super geniuses that are going through the spending practices
of our federal government. And just look, we'll talk about
(47:52):
the psychology of Elon Musk and how he has all
the money in the world and he's going in to
try to make our government efficient and that makes you
a villain in modern America.
More and more information keeps coming about the Maryland father
who was deported. Oh no, he kind of just keeps
getting objectively worse. Also, Ilhan Omar, everyone's favorite congresswoman to
make fun of, didn't go high when that's what Michelle
Obama said, When they go low, we go high. And
also running is it the new privilege? Dropping on the woke?
(00:32):
Whatever they're talking about all before coming up on this
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Thanks so much for tuning in together. We are charting
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before we get to that and before we get to
our panel, there is a crazy thing going on in California.
But I repeat myself, if anything's going on in California,
(00:52):
it's most likely crazy. Look, there is a bill called
AB three p. Seventy nine which has a pro vision
in it that Libs intentionally took out. What is the provision?
Will let me set this up first. Currently, the law
in California is such that if anyone solicits prostitution of
anyone under the age of sixteen, it is a misdemeanor
(01:14):
or felony. In other words, it is a pretty big punishment. Now,
I use finger quotes to say prostitution because in California
the age of consent is eighteen. So if you're under eighteen,
well you don't get to consent, and therefore it's not prostitution.
It's sex slavery. We'll just call it what it is.
So that aside, the current law says, okay, well it's
(01:35):
a felony if they're under sixteen and you attempt to
purchase them for sex, which again is horrible and we
want to get rid of. That goes without saying. However,
in this bill there was a provision that said, okay,
we're gonna include sixteen year olds and seventeen year olds
because currently the law is under sixteen, and that seems
thoroughly reasonable. So reasonable so that Gavin Newsome there left
(02:00):
lib Democrat governor of California, said it's probably a pretty
good idea. Now instead of just past this law, the
California legislature the Assembly said absolutely not, we're not gonna
we're not going to put this into law, and actively
took it out. In other words, it wasn't something that
like I had this kind of slipped under the rug.
(02:21):
We didn't really notice at sixteen it was in the
bill to say, hey, we're gonna include sixteen year olds
and seventeen year olds in this because again, they can't consent,
they can't be legal prostitution workers. Even if you agree
whether or not that should be legal, I don't, but
that's beside the point. If you're under the age of eighteen,
you cannot consent, and therefore it's not okay. This bill
(02:42):
had that in there, and Democrats actively took it out.
Why because California is where sanity goes to die. I
guess that's the only reason I think anybody could actually
give here to comments on that and so much more.
As host of the Chris Hand Show, Chris Hand and
Natalie jen Bisner, whose literal title, as she asked for
(03:03):
this is a former Democrat, so appreciate that. Guys, thanks
so much for joining us. Really appreciate it. Chris, I
want to start with you. So there was It wasn't
like a hey, this was left out of the bill
and nobody kind of saw this. There was an active
move by the California Democrats in the Assembly to say,
hold on, hold on this provision that says it makes
it a felony for sixteen and seventeen year old prostitution
(03:25):
solicitation a felony. Let's actually actively take that out. We
all know California as the place fore sandity goes to die. Chris,
what what why?
Speaker 2 (03:37):
I have no idea. I think you said it best.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
Though.
Speaker 4 (03:39):
You can't have a child prostitute, you can have a
child sex slave. And that's exactly what's going on in California,
and the lawmakers there don't want to punish individuals going
after underage prostitutes.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
It's insane.
Speaker 4 (03:54):
Personally, I would advocate for wood chip or feet first.
I know that's a little bit extreme, but that's just
kind of the route that I would go. As a
father of four, I think that you need to go
that route with these kind of heinous crimes. The people
in California don't even want to punish these kind of
heinous crimes. I would act like I'm surprised, but it's
the state of California, and I don't think that there's
any surprise in them doing this kind of insane activity ever.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
Ever, Is there are you surprised?
Speaker 1 (04:19):
Yeah, Chris, that is a pretty controversial statement. Woods trop
or feet first, is a little bit more aggressive and
dangerous than headfirst. Headfirst. It's over almost immediately, And the
controversial statement of the day is feet first versus headfirst,
to be going to the wood chipper for I can
abusing children, which I think is probably an adequate penalty, Natalie.
(04:41):
Even Gavin Newsom has come out and said, like, this
is pretty reasonable. What are we doing, guys? And his
own party is going against him. Is there a competition
in California who can be the most woke? And if
I woke, you mean legalizing the abuse of kids? That
is that like what's going on here?
Speaker 5 (04:58):
Probably I'm in Californi And that's part of why I'm
no longer a Democrat, just to be like completely clear.
In my state currently, as of today, soliciting someone who
is sixteen or seventeen year old is a misdemeanor, not
a felony, and it's punishable by two days up to
a year in prison. And it's my understanding that up
(05:20):
until last year when Newsom signed a law that soliciting
someone who's sixteen and seventeen, or soliciting someone who's under
the age of sixteen could have been punished as a
misdemeanor or a felony for your first offense. So it
was like the judge's choice, and now it's a felony
for under the age of sixteen. And like you said,
this bill had a provision that would have made it
a felony for sixteen and seventeen year olds, and the
(05:42):
Democrats voted against it. And their reasoning was that they
said that teenagers who are LGBT or in interracial relationships
with someone who's maybe eighteen or nineteen, that their parents
were going to weaponize this law against those teams. And
I don't know why they specified LGBT or inter racial,
(06:04):
because you could have, say, a white young woman who's
seventeen in a relationship with a white young man who's eighteen.
But what they really mean is that Christian conservative parents,
who they think are bigots and racists, are going to
use this to go after the black eighteen year old
man who's in a relationship with their seventeen year old
daughter or whatever else. It's it's completely crazy, and it's
(06:24):
again an example of them putting to interest and the
hypothetical feelings of like a very small minority over children,
just children of every color, every orientation, whatever else, just
everyone's feelings over children.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
Yeah, and it's it is ridiculous. Chris probably should have
show you this video before you got your answer, but
I want to get a brief reaction from you to this.
This is one of the co sponsors of the bill,
I believe, saying, well, let me know if you think
this person is in fact hinged or unhinged. Play that
clip real quick.
Speaker 6 (06:54):
The author and I are doubling down. But it's the
commitment that we bring a bill that is better than
what was presented. If you do not vote for this today,
well you said that you cared about sixteen and seventeen
year old was a lie.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
That you don't care? Yeah, their contention was, Well, the
only reason this provision was in there is Republicans playing politics,
and I think we just wouldn't as the video of
one of these post sponsors of the bill also playing politics. Quick, Chris,
do you have a quick reaction to that.
Speaker 4 (07:33):
She seems fun, She seems like somebody you'd want to
hang out with and have over your house for dinner.
Doesn't She no completely unhinged? But do you expect anything
else coming out of California? I honestly just feel bad
for these people. They walk through life so upset about
things they shouldn't be upset about, including making it a
(07:53):
felony to solicit minor prostitutes.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
It's insane. These people need help.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
Yeah, it's a It is ridiculous. And speaking of things
that are ridiculous, I'm not sure if that was a
great enough transition. But the NPR, the National Public Radio,
or as some people call it, nakedly progressive radio, is
well facing some criticism by the conservatives, including President Trump,
who's trying to Now we talked about this. We don't
(08:19):
have time to explain the entire hierarchy of it, but
there's a an organization that the federal government funds, and
that organization funds a lot of individual radio stations and
TV stations that then purchase the syndicated NPR. Again, kind
of complicated. President Trump is going after their funding. Natalie.
You know, I think a lot of people who were
(08:40):
formally on the left, or even even moderately on the
right now maybe don't even mind NPR if they were
true to their cause of oh well we're you know,
we're down the middle. But unfortunately, there were zero people
in the NPR newsroom that identified as conservatives or Republicans.
You know, what is is this going to be welcomed
(09:01):
by the majority of American people who kind of think, yeah,
NPR has gone off the rails and if they're as
far left as they are now, they probably shouldn't deserve funding.
Is that you think that's something the American people will buy?
Speaker 5 (09:15):
Yeah, I think it's welcomed by anyone who's not an
unhinged progressive Democrat. I mean, there was pure research in
twenty nineteen that said that eighty seven percent of MPR's
audience identifies as Democrat, And there was actually a really
good I don't know if your listeners are familiar with it,
but there was a really good piece last year in
Barry Weiss's Free Press by someone who had worked for
MPR for twenty five years, was a liberal. Trump paid
(09:37):
and he wrote kind of a tell all of how
they lost their diverse audience and for that he was
put on leave and then eventually kind of forced to
resign because there was so much hostility and if your
audience doesn't represent the American people by and large, which
is what this man was admitting, who hates Donald Trump
and is again a liberal raised by a lesbian, Well,
then why do you deserve our federal tax dollars? And
(09:59):
of course they're gonna act like the sky is falling,
but really, if you look at it, it's like PBS.
Their federal funding is fifteen percent of PBS's budget and
one percent of mprs. So everything's probably going to continue
as normal, and they're going to keep being a mouthpiece
for the DNC and no one's even going to notice
that this happened or that federal funding was cut. But
of course they're going to act like, you know, this
guy's falling.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
Well, that's the thing is direct federal funding is a
small percentage of it, but they go this roundabout way
and it actually funds like closer to half, if not
sixty percent of it. Christ I'm curious here, you know.
So do you think in order to attempt to avert
Trump pulling funding, NPR will try and go more of
the conservative route, or at least be somewhat down the middle.
(10:40):
And if they're gonna do that, they're gonna have to
hire people that may be more conservative. And if they
do that, would you be willing to take your radio
show to NPR in order to hopefully get them to
avert the gays of President Trump. Try to cut their funding.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
No, and I don't even know what that would look like.
Speaker 4 (10:57):
If they tried to be more conservative or more down
in the middle, I feel like we wouldn't agree with
it anyway. But I mean, without the taxpayers funding this stuff,
how are we going to get hard hitting reporting from NPR,
like stories about cannibalism and eating women's placentas. That's a
real story, by the way. How are we going to
learn about all of the wonderful things that the left
(11:19):
is doing and all the evil things that the Trump
administration is doing. It's funny when they did the RNC
and the DNC, it was seventy two percent negative coverage
for the RNC, eighty eight percent positive coverage for the DNC.
This is not a non partisan organization by any stretch
of the imagination. And I think if they had to
monetize it, and we've talked about this before, if they
had to monetize it in the same way that my
(11:40):
radio station monetizes it privately, I think that they would fail.
I'm more excited about the PBS losing their funding. As
a dad of four kids, I am so frustrated when
Elmo is pushing vaccines and Pride Month, and when Arthur
is telling kids that white people are racist. I don't
think that has any place in a kid's show. And
I don't think any parent who was raised on PBS,
(12:02):
if they're not paying attention, is safe to leave their
kids watching PBS unguarded. So I'm more looking forward to
that aspect of it. I think adults can figure things
out for themselves for the most part, but the kids
going after the kids is always much more touching for me.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
Yeah, until they start airing reruns of Mister Rogers, I
don't think I'm letting my kids watch PBS anytime soon.
Christ and Natal will be back right after the break
to discuss the Maryland Father and everyone's favorite congresswoman to
dislike ilhan Omar. All that more coming up after the break,
unkle Oi will be right back after this. Welcome back
(12:47):
to turning Point Tonight. We're together. We are charting the
course of America's cultural comeback. My name is Jobob. Thanks
so much for sticking with us. I think We've all
seen just about enough as we can handle of the
Maryland Father. First, he was a Maryland father that was
stripped away from his family. Then okay, wait, well he's
in illegal and I thought, okay, wait, well he's also
a gang member. Oh oh, it actually turns out that
(13:09):
he might have beaten his wife according to court documents.
Oh wait, he was pulled over human trafficking. Yet another
thing came out about the Maryland father that Democrats are
so eager to defend and go down and pay homage to,
as the senator from Maryland did. Let's bring our panel
back so we can listen to this audio. So we
probably heard the story that the wife or just baby mom,
(13:33):
I'm not even sure if they're legally married of the
Maryland father filed a court complaint that's while he was
domestically abusing her, which again is terrible. Nobody's trying to
make light of that or belittle that in any way,
shape or form. But now there's audio that well backs
up the already written statements that we've already seen. Let's
listen to this and get your guys reaction.
Speaker 7 (13:54):
I've came to fill out of protective order I think
was in December, but I didn't show up to the
court because his family like washed my brain telling me
that his dad was sick and not to do it,
I would call the police. I have a lot of
police reports. And I kept turning to get to the
door basement to try to open the door, and then
(14:16):
like he pushed me. So then when I was able
to go outside to get a phone, I called out
one from a disconnected phone. So I saw a neighbor
walking his dog, and I opened the door and I
was like help. And then when he heard me, like
he grabbed me from my hair and then he slapped me.
And then the neighbor like he didn't know what to do,
he didn't know what to react. I have pictures of
(14:36):
the evidence, like all the bruises, because even on Wednesday
he hit me like around like three in the morning,
he would just wake up and like hit me. And
then last Saturday, for my daughter's birthday party, before I
went to my daughter's birthday party, he slapped me three times.
And then last week I did call the police. My
sister called the police because he hit me in front
of my sister.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
Holy cow, that's honestly kind of difficult to listen to.
Natalie my question then after hearing that, even though we
already knew we had the writing samples for the actual
court filing that she listed. It just makes it worse somehow.
Why was this guy even still in the country. That's
what I'm now asking is like, holy cow, it feels
(15:18):
like this there was enough evidence to boot this guy
out a long time ago. What was going on there?
Speaker 5 (15:26):
Yeah, I mean, you're absolutely right. The coverage on this
has been crazy. I was just on college campuses this
week with walk Away, and so many of the kids
there think that this guy is a US citizen who
was deported. And now we have all of this information
coming out. I mean, did you see the body cam
footage that came out of Tennessee in the last couple
of days when he was pulled over in twenty twenty two,
(15:48):
and right there on the camera, one of the law
enforcement officers says he's hauling people for money. And then
apparently they called the FBI under Joe Biden, and the
FBI said, don't attain this. So then they just released
this guy who they knew was trafficking, and now we
come to find out that he's also an abuser. And
(16:08):
you said it in the beginning that Democrats have kind
of shifted their message away from Maryland Dad, and now, oh,
it's not about him, it's about due process. Because I
think it's like a point of pride. They know that
they're too far into this, they can't back out now,
and they just choose the worst people to be their heroes.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
Yeah. I can't get through my head what is going
on on that side? Unless, of course, is this actually
a lot of people don't know this, Chris in deep
buried in Article eight of the Constitution. It actually the
founding father said that the craziest people among us have
to defend illegal gang banging, wife beating to domestic traffickers.
(16:47):
Almost got through that without laughing. But they don't have
to defend them. Chris, what is If there's a message
to libs, I would say, you don't there's no requirement
that you have to defend this guy. Why are they
continuing to do it?
Speaker 2 (17:01):
I don't know, man, it's the insanity of the left.
Speaker 4 (17:03):
And I guess it just goes back to Trump arrangement
syndrome and Orange man bad. But part of me looks
at the wife and I go, what are you doing?
And I tried to think about this last night, and
I'm thinking she doesn't want to give up that give
send go man. She's raising too much money off the
back of this Maryland man that we all know as
a gang member. We all know he's a spousal abuser,
human trafficker. You know you were talking about the body
(17:26):
cam footage. It was hard to understand what he was
saying underneath that thick Maryland accent. But when you got
to the police, you can understand what they were saying
because you know they had the Tennessee accents. It was
a little bit easier for me being in Tennessee. But
the police said, they're hauling ass These guys are assholeers.
They're making money trafficking humans, and this is who the
left defends. I don't want to interrupt the left. I
(17:47):
don't want to interrupt our enemies while they're making a mistake.
But you would think that they would have some little
bit at least in the back of their mind, just
iota of knowing this is probably a bad idea.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
Yeah, it's hard to stop your enemies when they're punching
themselves in the face, but at the same time, it's
very difficult to watch. Also, yeah, it's probably just overt TDS,
which I think we had a panelist on the other day,
saying that trumpt arrangement syndrome might actually be the biggest
epidemic surpassing COVID that is spreading around the world, you know,
speaking of the Maryland Father, one of our favorite congresswomen,
(18:24):
at least I think I can call her a congressman.
Maybe a Congress day, I'm not actually sure. Ilhan Omar
was asked by I believe, a Daily Caller Foundation reporter
about the Democrats paying homage to the Maryland Father, and
this was her response.
Speaker 8 (18:38):
Watch this, congress Woman, Omar, I'm Miles Morale with a
Daily Caller News Foundation. Do you think more of your
Democratic colleague should be traveling to El Salvador to advocate
on the app of a bittego Garcia.
Speaker 9 (18:48):
I think you should.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
I'm sorry, what congress who should you? Why me? We're
not taking any of my questions right now, but here
you go. Yeah, thanks, Natalie. I am reminded of the
iconic Michelle Obama speech when they go low, we go high,
and of course Ilhan Omar exemplifying the fact that they
(19:11):
just take the high road every single time, and that's
just what they do, you know, considering the fact that
the biggest thing that Dems have or the Libs have
in general, is this good feeling, heartfelt, motivational. How does
that play into that or is it the fact that
they're just getting so frustrated the only thing they can
(19:31):
resort to is yelling epithets at people.
Speaker 5 (19:35):
Yeah, they seem to like the effort lately. I think
of like Jasmine Crockett who said I think fu when
she was asked about Elon Musk. They just like to
insert that in anywhere. And honestly, I know we're not
surprised by this, but it is a little bit shocking
that she is a sitting representative and she's asked what
is a legitimate question, and she doesn't even try to
answer it or try to spin the answer or even
(19:56):
just ignore it. That she just like lets that fly
out and then doubles down and then triples down later
on social media. And honestly, you know, I'm kind of
in a minority on the right. I don't even really
like it when someone like Nancy Mace gets a little
too argumentative I think, and not professional and doesn't represent
as well. But then ilhan Omar comes in and is like,
hold my beer and does something that's one hundred thousand
(20:17):
times worse. And I mean, she's supposed to serve at
the will of the people, and I really just don't
think that this is it. It's also like a walking
billboard for why Democrats shouldn't be in power anymore and
why we ironically need to be strict on immigration, you know,
which is what she was kind of asked about there.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
So yeah, you mentioned that tweet too. She retweeted that,
and like I said, no, I stand by what I say.
F Off spelled it out, Chris. You know, she's got
to run for reelection every two years. This is a
congressional seat, so two years comes pretty fast. I would
imagine anybody in that district, even Democrats trying to primary
(20:53):
her from her own party, would be running that ad NonStop.
Do you think at this point, given all of the
thing she said, is this the breaking point that gets
her booted out of officely, do you think that's gonna
make any difference whatsoever?
Speaker 2 (21:07):
No.
Speaker 4 (21:07):
No, In the district of Somalia where she is, she
has a lot of supporters and this this is just
gonna be a feather in her cap.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
I don't think that she has to worry about it
at all. In fact, out of all the.
Speaker 4 (21:17):
Democrats, I think that she's probably one of the safest.
You know, let's be perfectly honest. People love her. But
this new face of the Democrat Party that we're seeing,
you know you mentioned Jasmine Crockett, ilhan Omar is right
in there is this the dark woke that we have
been told about where you're getting a little bit rude,
a little bit crude, and you're you know, letting the
swear words fly.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
It's okay if that's what you want to do.
Speaker 4 (21:37):
I thought you were gonna play the clip of her
talking about American values, which I thought was even funnier
because you know, she married her brother and her father
was you know, complicit in genocide when he was in
his home country.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
So there's that.
Speaker 4 (21:49):
But no, I don't think I don't think she has
to worry about reelection.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
I think she's gonna be good to go.
Speaker 4 (21:53):
And I think that this is just emblematic of the
left and their supporters are going to eat this all
the way up.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
I disagree. I think Ilhanomar perfectly represents traditional Christian American values. Chris,
I don't see what you're when you're talking about at all.
Of course I'm kidding. Speaking of people who I would
I would say don't represent traditional American values, Tim Walls's daughter.
And look, I'm not a big fan of pulling family
members of powerful people into the conversation. But at the
(22:22):
same time, if you're gonna be out there talking with
authority because your parent is the governor of a state,
sorry your fair game. Here is the young little Walls
talking about the new form of what probably will be
the next white supremacist movement. To watch this.
Speaker 10 (22:41):
Running as an act is political. And you know who
taught me that, Tim Walls. The first thing you told
me when I was first getting into it in high
school was that running is a privilege, and being a
part of the running community is a privilege that not
all people have access to, whether it be you just
having the time to run, access like to funds to
(23:03):
buy the gear, access to you know, healthy quality foods
that fuel you as your training and as you're running,
access to you know, a safe, stable situation that allows
you to be in a good mental state to be
able to run. All of those things are hard to
come by, and if you have them and are a
(23:23):
part of the running community, that is a privilege.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
Yes, a new privilege has just dropped. Chris. Do we
do we push back on this sort of stuff or
do we just go sure, you say this as much
as you want and see if people come over to
your side and allow people allow the everyday average person,
who I think would look at that and roll their
eyes to do just that.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
Yeah. I don't know, man.
Speaker 4 (23:46):
It's not every day that a clip can come on
and make alan Omar seem a little bit more.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
Sane than we thought just moments ago. But here we are.
Speaker 4 (23:52):
You know, when she says check your privilege with running,
I just think of all those white European runners that
are winning marathons and you know, the big races in
the Olympics, and I think, yeah, you're right, You're right,
this is a white supremacist sport. And then I think
of the barefoot Ethiopian who won a marathon, you know,
with no gear at all. Check your privilege at the doorpal,
Apparently you're a Nazi as well. This is one of
(24:14):
the most insane clips that I've seen from her, and
she's been putting out a lot of clips. I agree
with you leaving the families out of it, but she
has entered herself into this conversation, so at this point.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
She's fair game.
Speaker 4 (24:24):
And I just wonder, are you getting your talking points
from I don't know, chat GPT, Like, is there a
woke version of chat gpt where she gets all of
her talking points because they all seem very, very sterile
and very similar to the last video that we saw.
But she's she's insane, don't I don't understand it? And
she said this is the first thing her dad taught
her when she got into running.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
Check your potra.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
Ridiculous, Natalie. I so is there a next step for this?
What can we predict is going to be the next
version of privilege or white supremacy or whatever it is?
Is it baking, is it mowing your What are the
next what's the next thing? And should we start a
gambling pool on what they're going to come up with next?
Speaker 5 (25:07):
I don't know. Maybe being the sane is a white privilege.
Speaker 4 (25:10):
I don't.
Speaker 5 (25:11):
I don't really know someone. So I think someone needs
to take her phone away because, like Chris said, I
it's like every week some stupid video comes out and
she's not doing her dad any favors. I mean, when
Tim opens his mouth he's not doing him any himself
any favors, but his daughter is not helping at all.
And when I first watched this, I assume she meant
running for office, which would, like maybe kind of make sense.
(25:33):
But then I realized she meant just running down the street,
which makes no sense whatsoever. And I really can't believe
that this is what her dad taught her. Like Chris said,
I mean, maybe he said running being part of the
running team is a privilege, not a right. But did
he genuinely me I guess it's Tim Walls, like he
genuinely meant that running is white privilege. And I mean
(25:55):
that she tries to tie it into climate change and
how if we deport people, they can't be part of
the running community. I mean, it makes no sense at
all whatsoever.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
Yeah, that's a good point. If you run too much,
you might change the weather on accident, and that would
be bad. Chris and Natalie, thank you guys so much
for joining us. Really appreciate you taking the time.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
Thanks for having us.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
Thank you. What do you think at home? What is
going to be the next thing that is a privilege
that the Wokes decide to be there? Hill to die
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Speaker 11 (26:49):
So why did a strict carnivore diet at first appeal
to you? And then why did you switch to animal
based which includes fruit, honey, and dairy. Right?
Speaker 12 (27:00):
Yeah, So I have struggled with autoimmune issues my whole life.
When I was a kid, I was over medicated by
my parents for my asthma. So asthma and exzema are
part of this allergic triad. Hay fever is the third
part of this triad. So like allergies, it's called a
top or atopic dermatitis is exema And I remember getting
theater which is theoflin and my apple sauce as a kid,
and it tastes bitter and it makes you kind of hyper.
(27:22):
That's the way we used to treat asthma was with
an oral medication called Theofflin. My parents would force me
to take my albuterol inhaler at dinner. I didn't want
to do the medications, but I was They were trying
to do the best for me, but they really over
medicated me because I had these issues as a child. Now,
granted I was a child eating a standard American diet.
I know my parents wanted to do good, but I
was sitting at you know, in the living room with
(27:45):
my father watching TV, eating a hungry Man TV dinner.
Really yeah full. I mean it was in the nineteen eighties,
so it probably wasn't as bad as junk food is now,
but it's still pretty horrible. I'm surely full of seed oil.
So I was eating pasteurized milk, you know, factory farmed meat,
factory farm chicken, seed oils and all of the grains,
no limitations, no real attention to nutrition when I was
(28:05):
a kid, And it wasn't any surprise to me in
retrospect that I had auto immune issues. So I struggled
with them throughout my life, and they sort of they
were they fluctuated. Sometimes they were worse, sometimes they were better.
But I had a number of exzema flares in my
life that were pretty bad. And eczema is like a itchy,
bumpy rash, and sometimes it's just cosmetic or a nuisance,
but other times it can be really a really problematic thing.
(28:26):
When I was in medical school, I started doing jiu jitsu,
like so wrestling on mats, and when I would get
XIMA on my knees, it would get infected from the
mats and you get sort of a superinfection called impetigo,
So you get a skin infection where the skin is
cracked and open from this exima. And I mean there,
I've had times in my life when we axima was
so bad that it affected my just my sense of self.
I mean I remember being on a date with a
woman when I was in residency and I had eczema
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on my arms so bad that I told her it
was poison oak. I don't know why I was so
embarrassed to tell her it was exema, but that was
really the breaking point for me when I was in
my residency. So probably like late thirties, I'm just sick
of this recurrent exima my whole life, and I'm thinking,
why do I still have ecima at that point in
my life in my late thirties, I'm still eating I'm
(29:08):
eating a much better diet. I'm eating basically entirely organic.
I'm eating meat. I'm eating fruit, but I'm eating nuts,
I'm eating seeds, I'm eating vegetables, and I might have
eaten milk sometimes. But you know, I was eating basically
like a paleotype diet, so not really restricting any food group,
but not eating junk food anymore. And still I'm having
major flares of exima. So I kind of threw my
hands up. And I heard about this thing called the
(29:28):
carnivore diet. I actually heard Jordan Peterson talking about it
on Joe Rogan's.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
Podcast No Way, Yeah.
Speaker 12 (29:32):
And I'm in residency, right, so I've been to medical school,
and I just thought this is so interesting. Autoimmune illness
is rampant, and I think that autoimmunity affects so many
of us. You're having your issues with it too, right
in ways that we're not even understanding as humans, what
is causing us to have these autommune issues. And I
heard him talk about carnivor, and I thought, what if
it's some of these plant foods that we think are
(29:52):
healthy that are actually triggering our immune system. And I
can talk about why they might do that in a moment,
but I did a strict carnivor diet. At that point
or a year and a half, exima gets way better,
It completely resolves. But I'm only eating meat and organs
like liver and heart and animal fat and salt. For
a year, a year and a half, a.
Speaker 11 (30:10):
Year and a half, you did only those things, only
those things, And then when and why did you decide really, okay,
let me add some other stuff.
Speaker 12 (30:16):
So eventually I started to have issues with electrolyte balance,
probably related to long term ketosis. So there's a lot
of talk about ketosis or ketodiets or low carbohydrate diets now,
but I really think that in a lot of people,
those are very stressful. And what we know is that
insulin is this peptide hormone in the human body that
(30:37):
gets released when you eat carbohydrates. It also gets released
when you eat protein, not so much with fat. But
insulin is valuable. Insulin gets a bad wrap. Some people
in the health space are saying you should never see insulin,
you should minimize it as much as possible. I don't
believe that. I think that insulin is clearly valuable for humans,
and insulin gets out of whack when you get underlying
metabolic dysfunction. But insulin doesn't cause the metabolic dysfunction. It's
something else, which we can talk about. But what happens
(30:59):
is when you don't enough of an insulin signal and
on a keidogenic diet, you get a very low insulin signal.
You don't hold on to electrolytes at the level of
your kidneys. I just never taught this in medical school.
You need insulin to reabsorb sodium, potassium, calcium, and chloride
at the level of your kidneys and the descending tubules
and all these loops within your kidneys that sort of
help you manage your fluid and your electrolytes in your
(31:21):
human body. So it's very interesting to me that in
my case and in a lot of people's cases who
do long term keto, you end up with just massive
electrolyte insufficiency, and you.
Speaker 11 (31:29):
Feel, what the max amount of time you should do
strict hardcore carnivore diet.
Speaker 12 (31:34):
You know, I think it's going to be very dependent
on the individual, and I actually don't think most people
need to start there at all. What I learned from
it was valuable, though, and I don't want to gloss
over this. What I learned was that many of the
foods that I thought were healthy, whether it was salad
or nuts, or seeds or in my case probably mushroom extracts,
we're probably triggering my exima. So there's a value there
(31:55):
for people to understand that a lot of auto immune
issues I believe are triggered. Not entirely. This isn't the sea,
but I think for a lot of people autoimmuneitions can
be triggered by foods we think are healthy oats or
quinoa or spinach or kale, or broccoli or almonds.
Speaker 11 (32:07):
Well, it's just like an individual food allergy.
Speaker 12 (32:10):
It's very individual. Yeah, a food sensitivity probably, yeah, And
a carnihore diet is so precise that it can really
help understand that. But my transition to animal based was
this sort of thought process of saying, can I eat
more foods, more variety, more flavor, more color, but also
not trigger my immune system. And what I found is
that for me and for a lot of other people,
just through experimentation and sort of crowdsourcing this information, you think, oh,
(32:34):
when you think about plants, the fruit is the colorful
part of the plant that the plant wants you to eat.
And this is the problem with vegetables I think for
a lot of people is that vegetables are the leaves,
the stems, the roots, and the seeds of plants, and
these are the parts that plants don't want you to eat.
So there's a clear communication going on here, and it's
hems at communication between plants and animals or plants and humans.
(32:56):
These are the parts of the plant that the plant
needs to photosynthesize to gather energy for the sun to
make sugar, to have their energy. But plants can't run
away from us. So between you know, over the last
four hundred to five hundred million years of divergent animal
and plant evolution, plants have developed thousands and thousands of
defense chemicals. We're never really told about this, and humans
(33:16):
and other animals in turn have developed mechanisms and somatic
systems to detoxify those plant defense chemicals. But not all
of us are great at that, and some of us
have problems with those defense chemicals, and they can be
harmful for humans. So the idea that kale is entirely
good for humans, I would argue with that.
Speaker 11 (33:33):
So you think kale is bullshit.
Speaker 12 (33:35):
I do think kale is bull Generally, that's a black
and white statement that has kind of been made historically,
and it's kind of fun because it gets people thinking
about it.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
What are their vegetables?
Speaker 11 (33:42):
But like you were really anti kale, but is there
any of their top vegeables that you're like, do not
eat this?
Speaker 12 (33:46):
Spinach is a big one. Okay, Spinach is a big
one because of oxalates. So oxalates are essentially oxalic acid.
It's a dicarboxylic acid. It's a breakdown product of amino
acids in the human body that we can get large
amount ont in food, much much higher than we would.
Speaker 11 (34:02):
What's this like whole campaign? Like why was it drilled
into us as kids that like spinach is so healthy,
Like that's the ultimate vegetable.
Speaker 12 (34:08):
I think Popeye just let us all astray, Like I
don't know, I mean there's there's there's urban myth that
potentially the whole deal with Popeye was related to a
misplaced decimal point having to do with iron.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
What.
Speaker 12 (34:21):
Yeah, So if you think about so let's just think
about spinach because it's a good model system. So when
you think about spinach, like what's beneficial about spinach? Well,
it probably has some be vitamins, it has some fole
eight and it has iron in it, and a lot of
people are deficient in iron.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
It's hard to get meat for.
Speaker 12 (34:34):
All of us, you know, whether we don't can't afford it,
or we don't have access to it. Like people all
over the world often don't eat enough meat, So plant
foods with iron can be valuable. Iron deficiency anemia appears
to be very common in humans, especially women who menstrate
every month and lose iron when they're bleeding. But the
iron in spinach is just not nearly as bioavailable as
the iron in meat, which is heme iron.
Speaker 11 (34:55):
What kind of meat would have the most red meat okay?
Speaker 12 (34:58):
Or dark meat?
Speaker 1 (34:58):
Chicken?
Speaker 3 (34:59):
Okay?
Speaker 12 (34:59):
In fact, there's if you think about organs, the spleen
has the most iron. Some people eat eaten spleen in
the past. That's a whole separate story.
Speaker 1 (35:06):
I'm not sour probed, I know, right.
Speaker 12 (35:08):
But in terms of things that we commonly eat, it
would be red meat that has the most iron in it.
Speaker 11 (35:12):
So if somebody goes full carnivore, what are like the
immediate benefits that are going to start seeing?
Speaker 12 (35:17):
I think that their gut is probably going to get quieter.
They're probably gonna have less gas and bloating, although some
people when they cut out all fiber, go the other
direction and get a little diarrhea because sometimes we need
the fiber to hold on to or at least manage
the recycling.
Speaker 1 (35:32):
Of bile acids.
Speaker 12 (35:33):
But some people who go strict carnivore do have like
less problems with their gut less gas, less floating. A
lot of people who with strict carnivore do have improvements
in autoimmune issues, whether it's autoimmune thyroid disease or skin
issues like psoriasis and ecima, or autoimmune gut issues like
Crohn's colitis or al sort of colitis. Basically, you know,
being in the carnivore space for years now and then
(35:54):
sort of being carnivor adjacent now. I've heard probably thousands
of stories almost every diagnosed autoimmune condition getting better with
intentional dietary changes. But what's interesting to me is that
I haven't really heard that many people say that these
things come back or get worse when they add a
few foods in their diet like fruit, okay, and make
it much more manageable long term.
Speaker 9 (36:13):
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thirteen year old owning this space every day, getting a
convert and then I'm thinking about we're gonna stand back
and watch you run circles around us.
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(37:12):
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so we got several emails. They're very complimentary, very much
appreciate those of you who watch it and email and
send compliments, very much appreciated. We'll have that as a
catch all on this Friday. But it is Friday, so
we got to get to fun Friday. This first clip
I thought was, well, it's fun for us to watch.
(37:35):
It probably wasn't fun for either of the people experiencing it.
In the moment, there is an argument between a what
I believe is a boyfriend and a girlfriend, and the
boyfriend takes some extreme measures in order to get out
of that argument. I'm not sure if I can blame him,
but we'll let you be the judge watch this. You know,
(38:12):
I am inclined to say that's never okay. However, there's
like one percent of me that goes give me the context.
What were they talking about? What was that argument over?
And maybe there may be a small little bit of
justification that would say, yeah, I might have jumped out
of that window. Also, maybe I don't know, she was
telling him I'm a Democrat and I voted for Obama
(38:34):
and Obiden and Kamala Harris, and maybe that would have
warranted the guy jumping out of the window. I think
it actually might let's get this next clip. I think
this is fun making fun of libs by being libs.
It's sometimes difficult to tell sarcasm and satire, and this
blurs that line just a little bit. Watch this.
Speaker 13 (38:54):
Oh my god, I'm so sorry.
Speaker 4 (38:55):
I'm late.
Speaker 1 (38:56):
I was getting a triple.
Speaker 12 (38:57):
Abortions to make I identify as we're in a polycule.
So there's five other people that were dating as well,
and four of them are undocumented.
Speaker 1 (39:09):
No eating until you do your land acknowledgement.
Speaker 14 (39:13):
Me me is.
Speaker 12 (39:15):
Murder, living in a free Palestine, the last one.
Speaker 1 (39:24):
I'm living in a free Palestine encampment. The problem is
all of those are real things. You have people protesting,
blocking traffic, saying met it is murder. You have people
living in free Palestine encampments. You have people that are
in whatever a polycule is. I guess they're dating five
other people at once, and that that's a thing. I
(39:45):
guess the issue. I keep going back to this. Our
friend Seth Dylan at the Battlon b is the hardest
job in all of the world, trying to make fun
of people that are doing things so objectively absurd that
it's difficult to even satirized. Because yeah, all of the
things about that is funny and interesting going into the weekend.
(40:07):
I feel like this is a an apt and appropriate
reminder from it looks like a priest here that well
he's talking about church, and you know, if you don't
like it, he has some suggestions. You don't like church,
(40:31):
try again. You have a chance to do that this Sunday.
I have a great weekend. That's gonna do it with
us here Turning Point tonight, Charlie's gonna take us out.
We will see a Monday, same time, same place. Have
a great weekend, spend some time with some family, unplugged
from the news of the day because you only need
to watch Turning Point Tonight is also the Charlie Kirkshow
and all the other shows that you do watch. But
we'll see a Monday, save time, say place, God bless America.
Speaker 3 (40:57):
Well, it's important to note too that the stock market
is not the economy. The stock market can re react
to jitterism news. The economy is growing incredibly strong and
is only going to grow stronger with the tax cut
that we see coming and deregulation. Let's go to CNBC.
Let's play Cut four eighty three.
Speaker 14 (41:13):
Job Job jobs report for April hitting the wires. Non
farm payrolls are greater one hundred and seventy seven thousand.
We're expecting, as Joe pointed out, one hundred and thirty
three thousand. One hundred and seventy seven thousand would be
the second best of the year outside of what's in
the rear view mirror.
Speaker 3 (41:34):
Now you have to wonder, are the Democrats happy about this?
I mean, they're the ones saying that the recessionist. Are
they thrilled that the American economy is doing better and
it's actually only going to further improve. You See, the
prediction was that by now we would have major job losses.
We have the tariffs. They said, by the summer, we're
going to see major drop offs. But this job's report
has exceeded expectations.
Speaker 8 (41:51):
Well, yeah, this this just reminds me of just about
every other chapter of President Trump's political career, where the
elites and the experts tell us he's doing it wrong,
only to find out in the end that he's doing
it right, that his instincts have been right all along.
Now he's not right about everything. Listen, We're free to
disagree with President Trump, but I time and time again,
whether it's foreign policy, energy policy, tariffs. President Trump has
(42:15):
an instinct for these things. He's a businessman, He's seen
it up close and personal. I've always been a fan
of teriffs. We have internal disagreements on our team about tariffs.
I get it that it causes jitters in the short term,
but we're already seeing, especially with like auto manufacturing, where
they're starting to replace you know, producers and their supply chains.
(42:36):
They're reshoring those supply chains. They're already working on it.
Ford has come out said they're building two new plants, Hondai, Toyota.
All of them are making moves to re shore supply chains,
which is going to increase America.
Speaker 3 (42:49):
And also remember remember they told us that if the
border was closed, it would creater America without cheap illegal labor.
This is a very important point. The border is completely secure,
ninety nine percent border cross incredible, and we have deportations happening.
So it turns out actually when you close the border,
more Americans get hired. That actually on the books like
what a concept. Well, and it's a direct correlation with
(43:10):
you close the southern border and American jobs actually increase.
Speaker 8 (43:13):
There's actually a clip from Bernie Sanders in twenty fifteen
talking about how he is not for open borders. Why
because that depresses American wages. This is a very very
clear line, and you've made this point on the show
a bunch of times, and it's a point that it's
worth reiterating. Is that we are looking down the barrel
of an ai revolution, of a robotic revolution. So if
you're going to keep, you know, flooding your country with
(43:36):
cheap third world.
Speaker 3 (43:37):
Labor it's unnecessary.
Speaker 8 (43:38):
You're also going to be causing a problem down the
road where those jobs no longer exist. And that timeframe
is way closer than most people realize.
Speaker 3 (43:46):
Here's Scott Best cut one forty five talking about how
the doomsday or said it was going to be the
worst stock market ever. Again, the stock market is not
the economy. The stock market can react to economic news.
But we're seeing the stock market catch up remarkably. I
think the Dow was at forty one thousand this morning.
Speaker 15 (44:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (44:02):
Again, invest for the long term, everybody, play cut one
forty five.
Speaker 15 (44:06):
There was a story ten days ago that said this
is the worst April for the stock market since the
Great Depression. Ten days later, the Nasdaq is now up
on the month of April, and I haven't seen a
story that says, oh, stock market has biggest bounce back.
Speaker 2 (44:22):
Ever, so it certainly has gone back and forth.
Speaker 3 (44:25):
With I think a lot of this is media driven,
of course, And this is the most important clip of
them all, which is this is Joel Schilman, who's a
CEO of a company called e Shares. Even these CEOs
believe the propaganda. They think like, well, the economy must
be bad because everyone says the economy is bad. So
he is on the front lines of hiring and investing,
(44:46):
and he's even surprised to how good the numbers are.
Let's play cut forty nine.
Speaker 16 (44:51):
What's interesting the numbers, by the way, we're very I
was a little surprised to say, how's the stronger they were.
But this is very encouraging because we're already seeing many
of the companies dependent upon foreign suppliers already reshoring some
of their jobs. In fact, I've talked I talked to
just recently to a couple of entrepreneurs who are getting
off their China dependency. They are going to other Southeast
(45:13):
Asia companies for their supplies, and they're starting to look
at the mass stakes and manufacturers. So they're putting orders
in already for the third and fourth quarter for this So.
Speaker 3 (45:24):
And you combine all this together, President Trump, this economy
will only get better. And it's very important everybody, because
the media has almost been calling and cheering for an
economic collapse. I mean, can you think of anything more
sinister and more wicked than a group of people that
want Americans to suffer? They actually, if they got their way,
the market would go down to you know, twenty five thousand,
(45:47):
and people would be out of work. They see see
I told you Trump is this terrible and awful person.
Speaker 8 (45:50):
Well, it's an existential dilemma for them, though, Charlie, because
if Trump succeeds, that means their entire worldview is cast
into these.
Speaker 3 (45:56):
These are bad people. I hate to say it that way.
They're not patriots. If you are cheering for the on
fall of America and you're cheering for if you want
bad economic news, then you care much more about political
power than any sort of patriotic allegiance to the United States.
You wanted to play a piece of tape here.
Speaker 8 (46:11):
Yeah, I want to play Charles pain forty four, one
more piece of econ here, and this is talking about
manufacturing directly forty four.
Speaker 13 (46:18):
As I look at this initially, the one thing that
really jumps out to me that I love transportation in warehousing. Yeah,
pretty nine thousand. The product something is manufacturing. Some of
these deals that the White House has announced, maybe we're
starting to see that already play out.
Speaker 3 (46:35):
Well, we'll talk about it.
Speaker 8 (46:37):
I mean, this is so the White House has said
that it's over five hundred or five trillion dollars in
foreign investment in manufacturing. And by the way, speaking to
our earlier point about technology and robotics and AI, this
these are investments in warehousing, data, warehousing, energy capacity. These
are high tech investments in the future from Apple and
(46:59):
Video and others. Soft bank. This is this is not
like you know those images in your head of the
steel welders, although we love the steel steel mills, don't
get me wrong.
Speaker 1 (47:08):
This is this is the jobs.
Speaker 3 (47:09):
Of the advanced manufacturing exactly. Okay, we got to get
to one of our partners here. We want you guys
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this next. President Trump signed an executive order defunding NPR
and PBS. Do we like that? Everybody?
Speaker 1 (47:24):
Do we like that?
Speaker 3 (47:25):
See, we have a live audience here in sand the interactions.
Speaker 1 (47:29):
They love it.
Speaker 3 (47:30):
And I didn't have to tell them. I didn't have
to ask him the clap like Jeb Bush. They loved it.
And we're also going to go deeper into some of
the other really good news of the day, including what
I thought was a phenomenal segment that Jesse Waters did
with Doge. I don't know if you guys caught it
or not. It was a really really good picture of
the super geniuses that are going through the spending practices
of our federal government. And just look, we'll talk about
(47:52):
the psychology of Elon Musk and how he has all
the money in the world and he's going in to
try to make our government efficient and that makes you
a villain in modern America.
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