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Segment 1: Save the Taxpayer Money by Self-Deporting

Segment 2: LA wants Trump To Pay For Riot Damage

Segment 3: He Won’t Lead… Now What? | Culture Apothecary

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Speaker 1 (00:08):
We've got another Alex Padilla wanna be trying to grab
attention from the media by doing something very very stupid. Also,
the No Kings March, we will talk in detail, guys.
It did actually work there. There are no Kings in
this country, which is fantastic and we're very, very excited

(00:28):
about that. And also trouble in the DNC. You know,
we hate to see that. It's just the worst. Another
top member of the DNC is out. All that more
coming up on this episode of Turning Point Tonight. My
name is Jobob. Thanks so much for tuning in. Together.
We are charting the course of America's cultural comeback. This
is Turning Point Tonight. And before we get to that,
in our fantastic panel, the deportations. I thought this was

(00:51):
a fascinating opinion piece in the New York Post that
highlights the success of self deportation. Now we've all seen
the raids on illegal immigrants in specifically sanctuary states, places
that say, well, we're not going to coordinate with ICE,
and therefore ICE has to go raid places where people

(01:11):
are because yeah, you don't want criminal illegals in your city.
And then all of a sudden, LA burns down, which
you know, who could have seen that coming in the
lawless hell hole that is Los Angeles. But aside from
all of that, a lot of the things that have
been made fun of about the Trump administration is this
idea of self deportation. Who is going to self deport? Well,

(01:31):
according to some of the numbers, a lot of people.
Now keep in mind, it costs money to deport criminal
illegals in this country, about seventeen thousand dollars per person
that ICE has to round up and deport. Now, the
Trump administration is offering a thousand dollars stipend for anybody
who decides to self deport. And again you might be thinking, well,

(01:53):
who's gonna want to do that? Well, if you came
into this country because while there was a lack of
opportunit in whatever country you came from, well then you'd
probably leave this country if that opportunity withered away. The
Washington Post, of all places, claims that a million foreign
born workers have executed the exited, sorry exited. A million

(02:16):
foreign workers have not been executed, have exited the workforce
since March. And they're saying that well, now that companies
don't have these illegal immigrants to do. The jobs wages
have gone up, which, holy cow, two good things at once.
In other words, the idea that people won't self deport
hinges on the idea, well, of course they would stay

(02:37):
here because we have everything. Well, except if you can't
physically work, if you can't actually tangibly get a job
here in this country, which the Trump administration has made
it difficult to do, which is a good thing, they'll
just leave. About a million of them have so far.
I think that's fantastic. Let's bring in our panel to

(02:57):
discuss this and so much more. Morgan McMichael is a
TPUSA contributor. Savannah Blaze is a commentator, slash political commentator,
content creator and commentator. Mess those up, guys, thanks for joining.

Speaker 2 (03:08):
Me, Thanks Shabab, thanks for having us.

Speaker 1 (03:12):
Thank you, Morgan. I want to start with you here.
I feel like a bunch of the Libs and continuing
to do so, just laughing up self deporting. Who would
self deport? But yeah, if the jobs dry up and
there's no reason or incentive for you to stay in
this country, you actually might leave, especially if you're getting
a thousand bucks from the government.

Speaker 3 (03:31):
I definitely don't think the left saw this coming. And
if there's one federal program that I would support, it
would be let's pay them even more money to leave,
to incentivize the self deportation even more. I mean, millions
of our tax dollars have been funding illegal immigration, giving
them plane tickets across our country, giving them cell phones, healthcare, food,

(03:52):
and even housing in luxury hotels. So why not throw
five grand at them and say, here, here's a plane
ticket back to your country of origin, to the city
that you want to go to, and we'll give you
a couple grand just to get on your feet in
your home country. That is something that I would support
my tax dollars going to. I do think it's very
funny how the left is spinning this and they're like,

(04:14):
there's no way there's self deportation's happening. I'd like to
see more of it.

Speaker 1 (04:18):
Oh, totally into it saves the taxpayer dollars. Like, yeah,
if you give them, you know, a little bit of
money to get out of here, that's still cheaper than
the seventeen thousand dollars per deported individual that has to
be arrested. Savannah. This is not the first time this
sort of thing has happened. The post piece points out
that in nineteen fifty four, Dwight Eisenhower launched his deportation

(04:38):
round up and the amount of people that were that
self deported was like fifteen to one. In other words,
for every one person that had to be arrested, fifteen
people were like, Eh, I'm out, I don't have to
deal with this. So, in other words, it shouldn't really
be too much of a surprise that this is working
as well as it is.

Speaker 2 (04:57):
It really isn't a surprise. It's not a huge it's
working and that's amazing, and I think a lot of
people aren't talking about it enough. Trump used the app
that Biden used when people came in illegally to seek asylum,
and he's turned it into a self deportation app. With
just a click, you can self deport, which is amazing.
It's a really smart move. And you know what, it's tough,

(05:19):
but it's fair. And like Morgan said, I rather my
tax dollars go towards giving someone the ability to self deport,
you know, than having Ice come in and spending seventeen
thousand dollars on deporting someone. And a lot of people
are saying, yo, well, it's so inhumane. There's nothing more
in you humane than putting people in cages, which is
what Obama did. I think this is the most humane

(05:41):
thing that we can do.

Speaker 3 (05:43):
Not for Obama deported more people than Trump has. Yet
the left likes to claim that President Trump is the
bad guy for deporting illegal criminals, not just illegals who
walked across the border and are working, but legitimate criminals
in our country.

Speaker 1 (05:58):
One of the biggest things that I gotten heat on
on Threads, which by the way, Threads is just a
wasteland of craziness, was I just want President Trump to
get to Obama numbers. That's that's what I want to
see happen. First. He's actually got quite a bit of
a wayte to go because Obama his hang of the deportations.
You know, speaking of the whole deportations thing, we found

(06:18):
out last week from Senator Alex Padilla of California that hey,
you can get a bunch of attention if you just
flail your arms crazy and ask questions, ask questions when
it's not your turn to ask questions, and you just
kind of yell and you don't identify yourself and all
that sort of stuff. Well, there's there's a copycat, a
guy named Brad Lander who apparently is running for mayor

(06:41):
of New York City. Weird. It feels like there's an
incentive there for him to get attention. We'll watch this
until we're sick of it. But this this just happened today.
Check it out.

Speaker 4 (06:51):
Show me that you just want the warrant.

Speaker 1 (07:11):
You that's boud enough for that. I think people kind
of understand that, Yeah, look, you can't just go run
into rooms. It's start yelling. That's not how any of
this works. Morgan. The person that was most mad about
alex Padia last week was probably Governor Gavin Newsom, who
was like, dang it, why didn't I think of that.

(07:32):
I want the attention, I love the attention. Uh is
this is this gonna was kind of the kind of
thing we're going to see a lot from libs.

Speaker 3 (07:40):
I mean, I'll give it to him.

Speaker 2 (07:40):
It's hilarious and very entertaining for us.

Speaker 5 (07:43):
On the conservative right.

Speaker 3 (07:44):
But I am so sick and tired of the left
continuing to have this political performative activism because we all
know that it's for the clicks, it's for the press,
it's for the photos. So that they can say, Oh,
they're being mean to me, and I'm running for this election,
so please elect me, because I I'm now a political
prisoner because I'm being silenced. It is just such a joke.

(08:04):
I'm just sick of seeing this type of activism in
the sphere.

Speaker 1 (08:08):
I don't know, maybe like.

Speaker 3 (08:09):
Wait in line, ask a question respectfully, don't just barge
in there so disruptively, and maybe you'll actually have your
voice heard. But instead they're doing it for a reason,
and the reason is the.

Speaker 1 (08:19):
Press, Savannah. He's claiming, well, I was just asking to
see a warrant for so and so it doesn't matter.
He's going in and obstructing a whole thing. I've been
searching for Alex Padia to do a press conference, and
I would love to go and just start yelling at
the top of my lungs and just see what happens.
You know, maybe maybe they'll just let me do it.
But Savannah, what do you think the chances of me

(08:41):
just just just jabbering on at one of Gavin neuwsm's
press conferences and not getting dragged out by the security,
which I should be if that's where I was doing.
What are the chances of that happened.

Speaker 2 (08:52):
I think if you play stupid games, you win stupid prizes.
All this is very performative. You can do things in
a way that is real respectful, that is going to
get the job done. But he wasn't being respectful. He's
not you know, they want a politically correct politician. That's
not being politically correct. You're just trying to put on
a show because they love screaming oppressed, being that they're

(09:14):
being oppressed, and they're not. You're not being oppressed. You're
literally just seeing the consequences of your own actions. And
we're all getting so tired of it.

Speaker 1 (09:24):
Yeah, it's it's I think it's funny and I love
to see people just get so worked up about it.
I could read you some Instagram comments from the New
York Times article about this. People's say democracy is dead,
what happened to freedom and liberty? Like, okay, fine, if
that's the way you think, then I guess good luck
with your your mental disability. Morgan and Savannah will be

(09:47):
right back after the break to discuss again. Just it's terrible.
We don't want to see it. But division in the
Democrat Party which just so awful. We also check in
with Turning Points White House Correspondent Monica page. After the break,
don't go away, It'll be right back. Welcome back to

(10:22):
Turning Point tonight. We're together, We're charting the course of
America's cultural comeback. Let's check in with Turning Points a
White House Correspondent Monica page at the White Monica had
lots of lots going on. Fill us in on what
the administration is kind of posturing towards the crisis in
the Middle East or war in the Middle East, whatever
you want to call it between Israel and Iran.

Speaker 6 (10:41):
Sure, well, of course, the feeling on the ground here
is very tense. We know that the President is holding
his National Security Council meeting as we speak around two
forty five pm Eastern time here at the White House,
and essentially this meeting is going to, I guess show
or develop as to whether or not the United States
will either be directly involved in this war or continuous

(11:05):
defensive posturing for Israel. We know the United States has
complete control over the Iranian skies as of right now.
President Trump also posting on truth Social kind of like
these updates as to where he stands and where the
White House stands as far as these latest developments, saying,
you know, we know where Iran supreme leader is, and
if he lays a finger on any American, any civilian,

(11:26):
any soldier, it will be met with complete force and action,
and they'll find him. They know exactly where he is.
So we're kind of hearing like little pieces of information
as they come out this afternoon, but as of right now,
they're in this meeting. Axios is also reporting that the
United States is considering striking Iran's underground nuclear facility. But

(11:47):
the message has been clear from this White House and
it's been consistent, which is Iran cannot have a nuclear weapon.
We know under the last four years in the Biden administration,
Iran has been enriched with all this uranium where it
could make a you know, a pick of under a
dozen nuclear weapons in a span of like a month
or so at a time. So the fact that Iran
has really grown its nuclear capabilities is really alarming to

(12:10):
this administration. And we'll see how war comes out of
this meeting in a couple hours or even tomorrow especially.

Speaker 1 (12:16):
Yeah, it'll be fascinating to see how that plays out.
And I think you mentioned earlier the American people elected
Donald Trump to solve these sorts of problems, which I'll
be fascinating. You know what, Monica. Everybody kind of talks
about the nuts and bolts of things, which is all great,
But one of the things that I think you do
so well is commenting on kind of the intangibles, like

(12:37):
the mood on the ground. What is the mood on
the ground right now as you're seeing around the White
House and around the administration.

Speaker 6 (12:45):
Well, I can say it's very quiet. It's pretty tense.
There's not many mainstream media members here. I think everyone
was still at the G seven summon in Canada. They
didn't expect the presidents to leave so early, but there's
a lot of foreign pressed here on the ground. It's
eerily quiet. We're not going to hear from the president
day as far as I am concerned and as far
as I know of, but I think that there are
rumors srill that the President could address the nation, whether

(13:07):
that is late, late tonight or tomorrow. We're definitely keeping
an eye on the President speaking out about what we
can expect to hear from this meeting and where it
stands as far as this war and Iran goes.

Speaker 1 (13:19):
Yeah, Monica, So we weren't here yesterday, but can you
just give me some brief thoughts on your Were you
at the parade this weekend? What did you think about it?

Speaker 6 (13:28):
I wasn't at the parade, I was at the Young
Woman's Leadership side, but I do want to say it
was a wonderful from what I saw. It looked great.
It didn't seem like it was met with much opposition
as many people were expecting. But it looked fantastic and
the President did a wonderful job.

Speaker 1 (13:41):
Yeah, looked like a great event there. Monica Page turning Points,
White House Correspondent. Thanks so much for checking in. We'll
see tomorrow.

Speaker 5 (13:48):
Thanks guys, Thank you.

Speaker 1 (13:50):
What's been fascinating to see, and we've commented a lot
about it on this show. Is the hills that the
Libs are continuing to die on and the new battles
there continue to wage. I want to play this video
clips first, let's bring our panel back. Morgan McMichael, Savannah Blaze. Guys,
So this is La, the City of Los Angeles, making
a pleas to why the federal government is responsible and

(14:14):
therefore should pay for any of the damages inflicted by
the riots that they that were definitely not right. So
it's just peaceful protesting with you know, some cars burning
and some chaos. But that's Watch this video and I
love your reactions. Check this out.

Speaker 7 (14:26):
I am demanding full accountability and reimbursement for the local
costs incurred, including injuries to local officers and damages caused
by the chaos unleashed when the Trump administration recklessly, recklessly
deployed the military and ICE agents into our communities. They

(14:52):
are the ones who created this unrest, and they are
the ones that need to foot the bill.

Speaker 1 (15:00):
Yeah, that is a clown if I've ever heard one, Morgan.
I mean, I guess if you were to tell this
woman one thing, or to explain it to her, would
you like to explain it to her in a way
that maybe can get through the neanderthal head there that says, yeah,
it's we're trying to keep order. Nobody here is provoking
anything other than your stinking rioters. You know what I

(15:23):
want to demand.

Speaker 3 (15:24):
I want to demand that the City of LA and
the County of LA actually take accountability for the illegal
immigration crisis that they have allowed to happen for decades,
not just the last couple of years, take accountability for
the protesters, arrest them, put them in jail, and actually
try them, don't just release them after one night because
it's easy, And to actually maybe help your law enforcement.

(15:46):
Instead of defunding the police, maybe fund the police so
that the federal government doesn't have to be involved in
your city. But La has become so decayed that we
have to step in to actually bring back law and order.
I don't know how peaceful thousands of molotov cocktails being
tossed at police cars really is. It's just really funny
when you're using these big words to promote this dangerous

(16:09):
rhetoric when we all know that the protesters are the
ones actually inciting the violence and ruining the city of La.

Speaker 1 (16:16):
Yeah, Savannah, it never made sense to me to what
Morgan was saying, Like, Okay, well, the problem is you
guys are saying we don't need the National Guard because
everything is under control. Also, we need a curfew because
these are out of control, which yes, is like okay,
I guess I don't know. Do you think anybody's gonna
buy this? Do you think these people are gonna get

(16:36):
re elected? Unfortunately? I probably think they will. What are
your thoughts.

Speaker 2 (16:41):
Well, you know, we have eyes, we can see what's
going on, and social media when you post something on
social media, like they're not really telling lies when they're
in downtown LA and they're like, oh my gosh, this
car is on fire, Like that's not green screen, that's
not AI. You can't lie to us and tell us
that they're trying to say these are peaceful. Well, if
it's peaceful, you don't have to set a curfew. Like

(17:02):
that's just ridiculous. You know, it must have just been
all the candlelight vigils and group hogs setting cars on fire, right,
you know, like, let's be honest, the military and ICE
weren't the ones looting stores or torching d Hicks or
torching torture torch you. I can't speak vehicles, but sure,
go ahead and blame the people who were sent to
clean up the mess.

Speaker 8 (17:22):
You know.

Speaker 1 (17:22):
I actually I have to correct you there. Article seventy
four of the Constitution says that you can't get deported
if you're wearing Nikes or Adidas, which is why they
were looting stores. Obviously that's not true, but maybe that's
what some people think as to why that makes sense.
Speaking of the looney bin. The DNC has hit another

(17:43):
someone just out at the DNC. This is Randy Weingarten,
one of the biggest teachers Union's bosses, is now out.
This follows David Hog's Hog's exit from the DNC.

Speaker 9 (17:56):
Let me just.

Speaker 1 (17:57):
Play you a clip of this lady this weekend at
the No Kings March, and let me see if you
think she is hinged so to speak. Watch this.

Speaker 10 (18:07):
You are the community to this president's chaos, and together
we build a future of opportunity and justice for all.
Home over fear, aspiration over anchor, the famous of America,
for each and every American. That is what we are

(18:30):
fighting for today.

Speaker 1 (18:33):
Morgan McMichael, what do you think are we getting these.

Speaker 3 (18:38):
Peoples energizer Bunny on crack? Okay, this is the energizer
Bunny on crack at this march. It is so hilarious
to me that the DNC has now booted her, just
like David Hogg. But at the same time, as a
conservative woman, I wish the left would continue to hold

(18:58):
on to their radicals because really it's just gonna hurt
them in the poll. So maybe they're trying to fig
starting to figure out how decayed, their party has gotten
This is wildly entertaining, though I hope that the left
continues to get even more weird and lefty.

Speaker 1 (19:14):
Yeah, Savannah Morgan hit on the thing that I'm concerned about. Unfortunately,
the more the Libs realize how crazy a lot of
the Libs are, They're probably going to be a more
cohesive unit that actually might be a threat to these
conservatives politically speaking, right, I love seeing people like David
Hogg and Randy Winingarden inside big lib tent because they're nuts.

(19:38):
And I'm not concerned about people who are nuts. But
considering the fact that Ken Martin, the now director of
the DNC, or the head of the DNC, is taking
the reins, so to speak, is this something to be
worried about? Electorally speaking?

Speaker 2 (19:53):
I don't know if the Democratic Party is going to
be okay in twenty twenty six, to be honest, I mean, yes,
she does look like the energizer Bunny on crack and
the Democratic Party is starting to crack, you know. I mean,
for some on the far left, the party still isn't
radical enough. I mean, it's good that they're leaving, but
it's still a problem and a lot of people don't

(20:14):
want to take criticism. She doesn't want to herself to
be criticized, and wasn't she the one who held kids
out of school for several years back in twenty twenty.
I mean, it's just crazy they refuse to acknowledge it,
you know. She expressed she no longer shares kin Martin's
vision and doesn't want to keep, you know, battling over
the party's failure to broaden its appeal, and that this

(20:37):
could potentially be a good thing because we love to
get the crazies out, you know. But they do have
to reform their party and do a better job of
criticizing it and why they've gotten to the place they're
at now.

Speaker 1 (20:48):
Yeah, it's almost like the person that kept kids out
of school for no reason might be described as like
a king or something of that nature, which which, by
the way, guys, over the weekend, you know, we weren't
able to talk about it yesterday, but we did it.
We woke up every single one of us, and America
does not have a king. The protests worked, Thank you, libs.

(21:11):
We are kingless. Morgan. There were about two thousand, more
than two thousand no Kings rally around the country. Are
they are the Libs maybe kind of missing the whole
point of America.

Speaker 3 (21:25):
And it's pretty ironic that they're out in the streets
protesting for No King's Day, self proclaiming, you want to
know when the real No King's Day was? Was July fourth,
seventeen seventy six, when we gained our independence from Great Britain.

Speaker 1 (21:39):
And we really don't have a.

Speaker 2 (21:40):
King in America.

Speaker 3 (21:40):
There's a reason that we have our fifty states and
that we have elected officials in our government. There's a
reason why President Donald Trump was elected, and that's because
the majority of the American people wanted to see him
thrive and execute his agenda within this country and make
America great again. It's the golden age of America with
this transparent administration. So I do think it's pretty hilarious

(22:03):
to see thousands of liberals angry in the streets saying, we.

Speaker 1 (22:06):
Don't have a king.

Speaker 3 (22:07):
You're right, we don't have a king, and we're going
to celebrate that again on July fourth this year.

Speaker 1 (22:12):
Hold on, Morgan, are you saying that they were protesting
Donald Trump being a king because that guy has to
deal with Congress and a bunch of judges who don't
want them to do Savannah. I mean, if that's what
they were protesting, Donald Trump is a terrible king. He's like,
has to abide by the rules. What kind of king
does that exactly?

Speaker 2 (22:32):
You know, it's crazy because I think a lot of
them are mad over his executive orders and they're saying
that's you know, that's a king does that makes the
executive orders. But we have, you know, balances in this country.
And the reason he's had to make so many executive orders,
mind you, is because he's been cleaning up after Biden's mess.
Wasn't it their party who didn't hold a primary? Wasn't

(22:55):
it their party who just gave Biden and Kamala a coronation.
I mean, if you want to talk about acting like royalty,
let's talk about their party, you know, acting like royalty
and making all of these rules we have to abide by.
If you don't get the COVID vaccine in twenty twenty,
you're fired, no questions asked. You know, like that's starting
to sound a little king like to me.

Speaker 1 (23:16):
Yeah, the the no votes. Really, they haven't had an
actual primary election since two thousand and four, I think, sorry,
two thousand and eight when Barack Obama ran. Everything else
has been like, all right, we've got Obama again. Now
we got Clinton, Now we got Joe Biden, now we
got Kamala Harris. Nobody actually won, which again seems yeah,
very king in a monarchy type system. Verry Yeah, yeah, definitely.

(23:44):
Morgan McMichael, Turning Point contributor Savannah Blaze Political Commentary Guys,
thank you so much for joining. Really appreciate you taking
the time. Thanks to Bob, thank you. Got another fantastic
clip from alixe Clar's Culture Apothecary podcast coming up next,
don't go Away'll be right back.

Speaker 11 (24:15):
As my husband says he shouldn't have to change any
diapers because he works and I'm a stay at home mom.

Speaker 12 (24:19):
Is he psychotic moron? No, that's idiotic, dude, that's just dumb.
I don't even have I don't have a phrase for that.
That's dumb.

Speaker 13 (24:27):
But how does she handle that?

Speaker 12 (24:28):
Yeah? They need to go see see a professional therapist quick?
Is that Mary is fragile?

Speaker 13 (24:32):
Yeah?

Speaker 12 (24:33):
So the Goatman's talk about the four horsemen of the Apocalypse,
of the relationship apocalypse, and one of the worst one
is contempt it's this idea of I remember, like when
you're swimming the lifeguard stand, I'm looking at our relationship
from up here because I go to work every day.

Speaker 13 (24:50):
I felt that so much.

Speaker 12 (24:52):
I do this and I'm talking down at you. He's
very self righteous, is those things. And forget the division
of labor in that situation. Go be involved with your kids.
Put down the video game controller, put down the remote control,
and who cares, it's a basketball game. The season will
start up next year. Do your kid right. And I

(25:14):
often find that that comes from what I dealt with,
which was I don't know how to change a diaper.
I don't know how to be present with the little
lump of a human that doesn't like me or want me.
It just wants my wife because she's got their heartbeats
are syncd up because they spent nine months together, and
she's got food right, and I don't. That baby just
is designed to want her for a few years. I

(25:35):
don't know how to change a diaper, and so I
had to learn to lean in and not get myself
worth from a screaming nine month old. I just go
do the next right thing, which is I'm gonna change
that dip yea, and be involved with this.

Speaker 11 (25:46):
This person says, my husband is so good at having
fun but lacking in the ability to lead and plan
for our family. How can I encourage this? So it
sounds like he kind of has like Peter Pan syndrome.

Speaker 12 (25:56):
Yeah, but also is so now I'm gonna get myself
in trouble with your listeners. That's our that's my house.
My wife is a list maker. She thinks things through.
She's like, yeah, but we have to wake up tomorrow
and I'm like, no, that's a problem for future us.
Let's do it right now, right. And she has talked
to me about you get to be the fun parent.
You swoop in here from out of town, you're on
the road, you come home, and you're like, let's keep school,

(26:17):
let's all go out. Yeah, And she's like, they have
to go to school. And I'm the one who gets
the emails from the teacher, and so partly that's her
sitting down and saying, Hey, here's what this looks like,
and I want your help in some of these other areas.
I we just had this conversation. I have a fifteen
year old and he's was struggling in a class and

(26:38):
my wife said, my relationship with him is becoming about
this class and I want to not have that be
the case. I want you to step in on it.
And I had to say, he has nine portals where
his grades are. I don't even know how to log
into these systems. Will you teach me how to how
to log into that? And that was me saying I'm
that detached from our kids. I don't even know how
to check his grades. Yeah, and that was her ex

(27:00):
and saying he doesn't know how to do that, not
because he doesn't love us, but because that's been my
role in here and so right, so we're figuring this
out together. Most men learn I'm not going to help
in the kitchen because I do it wrong every time.
M hm, Well, hold on, you need to load the
distrust like this, or put the cups in this way
or put them up. Guys just learn I don't do
that right. And so there's also when you get the help.
Sometimes it's awesome just to exhale and say that's not

(27:22):
how I would have put those dishes away, but the
dishes got put away. Yeah, right, It's not how I
would have planned this event, but I got planned. And
then when the event is over and we get home,
it's like, hey, so I want you to plan another thing.
And we have to remember that the kids are four
and they can't do roller coasters, right, So it's planning.
It's teaching each other how to do this stuff as we.

Speaker 11 (27:43):
Get If I had to guess, I would say when
she says he doesn't plan for our family, he's lacking
the ability to lead.

Speaker 13 (27:49):
You're saying like, it's.

Speaker 11 (27:50):
Okay if maybe the woman is the one that's more
organized and doing those types of things, and then he
kind of steps in. But I bet she feels like, well,
that's what leading is. Like, he's not leading because he's
not planning.

Speaker 12 (28:00):
Yeah, but often in a house because look at him.
He goes to work, he gets his job done. I
remember I left a spreadsheet up. I was responsible for
millions of dollars of revenue expense accounts at the universities.
I worked at all the housing, the meal plans, all
that stuff, and I didn't do the checkbook right. And
I remember I left a spreadsheet up and my wife

(28:21):
came and she's like, who are you? It was this
long spreadshee where was running these expense accounts? And I
had a reputation for always coming in under budget always,
and she was like, how do you and I had
learned in my house, I'm just gonna let you do
that right, And so often leading is he'll do it
my way instead of let's do this thing together, and
so guys learn, Okay, I'm I don't do this right.

(28:43):
If he's a complete jerk and does have Peter Pan
syndrome nobody needs to plan, then he's probably not holding
down a job either, and he's probably never been able
to do it right. Have you seen the Instagram meme
where it's like, thank god, my wife drives to the
store with me now, because so I know when all
the green and red lights are coming right. And so
it may be that she needs to sit down and say,

(29:05):
I've filled this vacuum because I had a picture of
what I thought my house should look like and I
realized I took this from you, and you felt dumb. Yeah,
And so every time you did plan something, I critiqued it,
or I was mean about it, or I was ugly
about it, and so you've just stopped and I'm sorry.

Speaker 11 (29:20):
So this next question is kind of in the same vein,
but a little bit more extreme. She says, I feel
like my husband lacks purpose and ambition. It is so unattractive.
Is this fixable?

Speaker 12 (29:28):
That's hard? That one's hard. Yeah, when you marry the
fun guy at the party, that's the opposite of the
guy where we're up just talking.

Speaker 13 (29:36):
To this guy just wants to play video games.

Speaker 12 (29:38):
Yeah, that's a hard conversation. And usually that's a guy
that doesn't have other men in his life that are
men of value, right, that are saying, are you what?
You just sit like? Dude, you got it? You got
to be better than that. Yeah, it's hard to hear
from your wife because it sounds like a mother.

Speaker 13 (29:54):
And usually it comes off as nagging.

Speaker 12 (29:56):
Well usually, yeah, she's become she's got a second or
third kid. That's her house, and that's a tough place
to find yourself because he can't hear it from her,
because he's heard it from his own mom his whole life,
and so often that has to you have to hear
that from another man.

Speaker 11 (30:09):
This person says, my husband makes a lot of money
for our family, but is absolutely miserable. How do I
support him when we need this job? But he hates
it and his mental health is suffering.

Speaker 12 (30:18):
She's framed it as a need instead of I want this,
I want my suburb and I want my Tahoe, I
want this nice house. I want us to be able
to go to the beach every summer. And I'm watching
my husband die. We had a really hard moment after
my second book. I was in the middle writing a
second book. And I grew up with not very much.
My dad as a policeman and then he became a
minister halfway through my Like we didn't have anything. My

(30:40):
wife was raised by school teachers. When I stepped into
this world, and then my show took off, and then
the first book went number one, Like I didn't understand
what money meant, right, I knew it, but I didn't
know what it meant in my gods. And I'll never
forget this. I'm sick. I was coming off of being
sick for ten days. My family had just left. And
you know this when your family comes and they stay

(31:00):
like four days too long, and they know it and
you know it, and everyone's just like, but they're stuck.
And then my manager called and I was in my
basement gym and he called, and I just started cheering
because we've gotten two speaking gigs that we're going to
be shape shifters. For us. It was like it's gonna
be a big deal and you know that world yep.
And I'm cheering and she comes down. She's like, what
are you yelling about? And I was like, well, And

(31:23):
she normally is very She's the Xanax in our family.
She's very calm and measured. And she came and got
real close, which is not like her, and she said,
I'm watching my husband die and I'm watching him cheer
the whole way. And then she said something that was
a shift for me. She backed up and I got
upset mad, and she said, I told you I would
never tell you no when I married you. So go

(31:44):
do your speaking gigs, Go travel on the country, do
your music. I like, go in to comedy clubs, go
to your comedy and do your stuff. But she says,
don't say it's for me and the kids. This is
for you and your ego. And then she said we
have enough, and when she left, I really, I don't
have a psychology for that word. I didn't know what
that meant. But it took her saying I would rather

(32:06):
drive it old used Corolla and live in a three
bedroom two bath house and we all share a bathroom.
Then you die. Yeah, and so this we need this job.
I'm married to somebody who is willing to say we'll
make do, but I want you and I'd rather have
a healthy and whole husband show up here at home
then have all of the stuff. And so I always

(32:27):
want to challenge somebody on that we need If you
want it, cool, be honest about that. But if you
need it, you can move to Nebraska where it's cheaper
to live, and you can do some things to get
your husband back right or to let him exhale. But
when he hears we need this, we need this, Okay,
he's being a dutiful guy and he's going to go
die on that white horse.

Speaker 11 (32:47):
This person says, my spouse is starting to get too
overweight and it's hindering my desire to be intimate with him.

Speaker 12 (32:52):
Yeah, I have to sit down and be honest. Secrets
will dissolve a marriage, they'll ruin, they'll dissolve a dating relationship.
And I'll also say, you can weaponize truth.

Speaker 11 (33:02):
So how do you motivate your husband, for example, in
this scenario, to start working out again without emasculating him.

Speaker 12 (33:09):
It's like people call and like, hey, how do I
tell my kid they're on the screen too much without
like making them frustrated. I'm like, you can't control how
they feel. What you can control is how you show
up and how honest you are. That's my challenge with
our political discourse these days is people weaponize truth. It's true,
and you know what to say, like that, does that
make sense? And so you can sit down and be like,

(33:32):
you've gotten too fat, you've gotten overweight, and you discuss
me in the bedroom. Now you can do that. What
any marriage therapist will tell you is never start those
conversations with the word you. Always starting with I. I'm struggling.
I'm worried about your health. I grew up in a
house where my dad was overweight and he couldn't play
with us, and he just started watching TV. I'm struggling

(33:54):
with being attracted to you and I'm worried about us.
That's an invitation when you say the word I, and
if he chooses to hear that as how dare you
and emasculating, he's made that choice, not you, but to
dance on eggshells for I want to say something that
is true in our home. But I'm worried about how
they are going to receive it. Then what that's how

(34:15):
secrets are? You just sit on it and sit on it,
and you sit on it and you start having one
day less sex, two days less.

Speaker 13 (34:22):
And the distance grows.

Speaker 12 (34:24):
And if he's somebody that deals with a lack of
connection by eating, some do it with drinking, some do
with pornography, some do it with scrolling, some do it
with online gambling. Everybody's trying to heal that disconnection with
a thing. Then it exacerbates the problem.

Speaker 11 (34:40):
My spouse frequently texts coworkers of the opposite sex outside
of work hours about non work related things.

Speaker 13 (34:47):
Is this a red flag?

Speaker 12 (34:48):
If you have sat down and said it makes me
uncomfortable when you're texting other people, then yes. And it
probably depends on who and what the needs are. If
it's some of my old friends from that are my buddies, wives,
I don't know like that, don't that's not a red
flag for me. Here's the red flag. If he deletes

(35:09):
the text, he flips over the phone, if you don't
have a code to his phone, if he hides it
from you, if there's any sort of secrecy, then yeah,
it's a huge red flag if you have said, hey,
this makes me feel uncomfortable.

Speaker 8 (35:33):
Immediately, nobody has thought about you, who's just twenty four
to seven flooding the zone. Back to my thirteen year
old owning this space every day, getting a convert and
then I'm thinking about we're gonna stand back and watch
you run circles around us.

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of you that email, and I appreciate you doing it.
They're all there's even one I should have brought up.
Her name said this is so bad haha, JK. We

(37:06):
actually love it. So I appreciate you doing that. I
appreciate you email like you can email whether you agree
or whether you're wrong, and you know, maybe maybe maybe
we'll respond. Because email, we read every single letter of
every single email without further ado. It's TikTok Tuesday kind of.
But this is actually a positive one. I thought this
video was fascinating, this lady, it's about it's a nine

(37:28):
minute video. We're not gonna play you that. We're gonna
play about a minute of it, but she says something
that I thought is so revealing in terms of how
people look at the general populace, especially those kids on
those college campuses that Charlie decimates constantly. This lady had
to apologize to Charlie Kirk and the reason why, I
think you'll think is fascinating.

Speaker 12 (37:47):
Watch this.

Speaker 15 (37:48):
I just got back from the Nomo King's rally here
in Beaumont.

Speaker 9 (37:56):
I oh, Carle, Charlie. I owed Charlie k Coke an apology.
You know, I watch his videos where people come up
and ask him questions and then he answers.

Speaker 6 (38:10):
It.

Speaker 9 (38:11):
I thought it was staged.

Speaker 15 (38:13):
I really didn't think anybody could be that stupid. I
was really naive. I really didn't think anybody could honestly
be that dumb. I talked to about ten or fifteen people.

Speaker 13 (38:27):
First.

Speaker 15 (38:27):
They got so excited when I walked up because of
my pinurple hair. I'm sitting here totally.

Speaker 9 (38:34):
My whole idea belonde to smither Ds.

Speaker 15 (38:38):
I didn't think there were people out there that were
legitimately that ignorant.

Speaker 1 (38:46):
I love that. I also think too, it is if
you watch a bunch of those videos of Charlie debating
kids on college campuses or really anywhere, you have this
kind of perception of like, there's no way this person
actually thinks this, especially if you've been paying attention to
politics and culture for long enough of a time where
it's just kind of second nature to you. It's like, well, yeah,

(39:07):
of course this is dumb. Of course this is not
how we should do things. And then you see people
people who are supposedly more intelligent or at least will
be quote unquote more successful because they went to college.
Those people think that, no, there's no way, there's no
way that somebody is that dumb. One of the I
think we played it on this show, but one of
the ones that was the most telling was like, this

(39:29):
kid was talking about abortion and he's like, well, yeah,
you should be able to murder a baby until they
can talk. And Charlie's like, that's like two years old,
and he's like, yes, what right, And it's unbelievable. You
kind of think there's no way that this is legit.
But I'm here to tell you that even outside of
the engagement between Charlie and a student, me or whoever else,

(39:52):
Bo Diddle Morgan, a bunch of the people that kind
of go around and talk to people outside of it.
They actually think that too. I'm sorry to burst your bubble,
but it's just not staged. Unfortunately, the reality is substantially worse.
I wish it was staged, because it's being staged would
mean that there aren't actually people out there voters who

(40:12):
are that incredibly stupid. But there are so I thought
that video was fascinating. Had to share it with you,
and with that, that'll do it for us here at
turning Points tonight. Thanks so much for tuning in. Really
appreciate you taking the time to watch. Charlie is gonna
take us out. We will see it tomorrow, same time,
same place.

Speaker 5 (40:29):
God bless America.

Speaker 14 (40:41):
And breaking news. USS mimics headed to the Middle East
ahead of schedule. Will the United States get involved with
that is an open question. But first we have with
us a great man from Oklahoma, Senator Mark Wayne Mullen,
who is the liaison between the House and the Senate
for the Big Beautiful Bill. We're also going to ask
about Israel and Iran as well.

Speaker 1 (41:00):
A great to see you, hey, Jerlie. How you doing brother,
I'm doing great.

Speaker 14 (41:03):
First on the Iranian news, what is your analysis of
what is happening, what is going on Iranian nuclear program?
And what is your thoughts on how Israel's been handling
and broker in this war.

Speaker 16 (41:16):
Well, I think I think it's interesting. First of all,
let's take on the president's posture here. I want you
to understand what you brought up nimics repositioning. The president's
posture here is the one word we need to take
away is to terrence. The president is trying to prevent
an all out war by deterrence peace through strength, which
I think is very important here as far as Israel,

(41:37):
I think Israel is doing everybody in that entire region.
I don't care for you Egypt, or your your cutter
or your Kuwait, Iraq, Uae, Saudi Arabia. I don't care
who you are. If you're in that region, you do
not want the Iranians to have a nuclear weapon, because

(41:59):
they will kick off a nuclear war if they have it.
So Israel's doing them a favor by taking the fight
to them, and I think they're doing a great job
if and it's systematically too right. So you think about
it that the Iranians have not really committed troops for

(42:19):
quite some time, and the last time they did was
in Iraq, and it ended horribly for them. So they
fight proxy wars, and they fight proxy wars with Hamas,
Houthis and Hesbelaw and over the last year and a half,
I mean literally, Israel has decimated every one of them.
And then they took out their air defense, which Israel
now controls the air defense over Iran, showing that they

(42:42):
were just simply loud mouths and not able to back
up anything. People worried about a full scale war. It
would be nearly impossible for the Iranian regime to actually
be able to put troops into Israel. Now they can
fight a cod war, which they are. They're shooting missiles,
which they are. I believe that you're going to see

(43:03):
a lot more of terroristyle activity happening in Israel.

Speaker 2 (43:06):
God forbid.

Speaker 16 (43:08):
But what President Trump is our President Trump has done
here is he's positioning assets by warning Iran because there
has been some credible information that they would like to
hit or hit the United States because they feel like
that we are supporting Israel, which we are, but at
the same time, they don't want to draw us into
the fight. And what we're doing is we're positioning ourselves

(43:30):
so they don't draw us in a fight.

Speaker 12 (43:32):
Uh.

Speaker 16 (43:32):
And and so I think Trump is handling this. President
Trump has handling this very well. And Israeli's are are
are doing the lord's work here by by literally kicking
the snake's head into the dirt.

Speaker 14 (43:47):
And so, what do you have to say for some people,
and I share some of this concern that we do
not want regime change, is there something short of regime
change of getting rid of the nuclear program and not
potentially destabilizing the country that could result in a civil war.
I'm basically asking, in your estimation, Senator, what do you
think victory looks like.

Speaker 16 (44:05):
We are absolutely not talking about regime change. The President
hasn't talked about it. We are not This is not
Harry Clinton, a Secretary of State having the air spring.
That is not what we're trying to do here. President
Trump has made it extremely clear that he would love
to have diplomatic relationships. He've even talked about trade with Iran. However,

(44:27):
they will never be able to have a nuclear weapon.
So what victory looks like is their inability to ever
have a nuclear weapon, or inability that we never want
them to have a nuclear weapon. So when we can
knock out their infrastructure and prevent that from ever happening,
that is victory. And this is what prevents a forever war.

(44:47):
By the way, when you don't know what victory looks like,
if you can't define victory, that's how you have a
forever war. So I'd go back and use the argument
in Afghanistan, after we took out Osama bin Lauden, we
should left left. We shouldn't have dragged that on. And
I think a lot of guys that fought there would
would would feel the same, and and and and if

(45:09):
you and so if you can define victory before it starts,
which that's what President Trump has said, we will never
allow you to have a nuclear weapon ever, full stop.
We knock out their infrastructure, we're done. As far as
regime change, that's not on us. That's on the people
of Iran to figure out what they want to do themselves.
That's not our that's not our our fault, our fight,

(45:31):
or our problem.

Speaker 14 (45:33):
Yeah, and look, JD. Vance made a really important point.
President Trump has been remarkably consistent about Iran not having
a nuclear weapon ten years ago. Yesterday, Senator Mullen, President Trump,
businessman Trump came down the escalator, and a little buried
nugget in his speech was I will stop Iran from

(45:57):
getting nuclear weapons. This was ten years ago. He talked
about the border, he talked about an invasion, he talked
about trade, he talked about how we don't win anymore.
Let's play cut three oh three. The consistency ten years later,
it's really something play cut three o three.

Speaker 1 (46:14):
I will stop around from getting nuclear weapons, and we.

Speaker 17 (46:20):
Won't be using a man like Secretary carry that has
absolutely no concept of negotiation, who's making a horrible and
laughable deal, who's just being tapped along as they make weapons?

Speaker 14 (46:33):
Right now, Senator, that was ten years ago. This is
a through line of the Mega movement.

Speaker 16 (46:40):
Thoughts, Well, that's what that's I think you said it right, Charlie.
President Trump has been very consistent. He has made it
very clear we will not allow you to having a
grippin full stop, and that's what this fight is all about. Unfortunately,
Biden administration did not keep the Trump administration policies in
place on anything, which is why he had a disaster
withdrawal out of Afghanistan. We had disastrous foreign policies all

(47:03):
over the country. That's why the Ukraine War started. That's
why we had destabilization around the world and aggressive China
because they got away from it. But you also had
an aggressive Iran who aggressively sought a nuclear weapon. President Trump,
by the time he got in, unfortunately, diplomacy wasn't working.

(47:25):
President Trump said in April that they have sixty days.
They have sixty days, and I think it was April
twelfth that they had sixty days to negotiate doing away
with their nuclear program. And by the way, at midnight
on the sixtieth day, going in the sixty first day
is where the air strikes from Israel started. So he

(47:48):
doesn't bluff. Once he puts a red line out, he
makes that red line very clear and decisive, and he
backs it up

Speaker 12 (48:00):
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