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July 8, 2025 50 mins

American Pride and Education

  • Gallup poll shows a sharp decline in pride among Democrats, especially Gen Z, contrasted with steady high pride among Republicans.
  • Panelists attribute this to left-leaning education and media indoctrination promoting anti-American sentiments.
  • Calls for defunding education departments perceived as promoting these views.

Immigration and Cultural Assimilation

  • Discussion on protests in Mexico against foreigners not assimilating, used to argue for strict U.S. border and cultural assimilation policies.
  • Emphasis on maintaining borders and culture without being labeled bigoted.
  • No amnesty expected despite rumors; deportations to continue strategically with pressure on farms and businesses to hire Americans.

TSA and Airport Security

  • TSA to stop requiring shoe removal at many airports, aiming for more consistent and less intrusive security.
  • Panelists criticize TSA for inconsistent and inefficient procedures.

Distracted Driving

  • Alarming statistic: young drivers spend 21% of driving time on phones.
  • Concerns about attention spans and safety; some panelists express hope for autonomous vehicle technology to reduce accidents.

White House and Political Updates

  • President Trump’s cabinet meeting highlighted, including discussions on tariffs, Middle East diplomacy, and immigration enforcement.
  • Attorney General Pam Bondi investigating missing prison footage related to Jeffrey Epstein.

Cultural Commentary

  • Criticism of social media and video game addiction harming youth brain development.
  • Support for policies like later school start times and social media restrictions for children.

This episode reflects conservative perspectives on cultural, political, and social issues shaping America’s future.

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are very upset about. But we're saying anything about not
all that long ago and on a troubling but we
have to confront it front. A lot of younger drivers
spend a huge percentage of their time driving on their phones.

Speaker 6 (01:04):
What in the world do we do about that?

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Speaker 6 (01:09):
Together.

Speaker 5 (01:10):
We are charting the course of America's cultural comeback. This
is Turning Point Tonight. Before we get to that and
I don't want to sound depressing here because that's not generally.

Speaker 6 (01:19):
The vibe we go to.

Speaker 5 (01:20):
But there was a big Gallop poll that came out
in this last week that shows that the sentiment for
pride in the United States is not awesome. And there's
a specific group that is doing a lot of that
not awesomeness.

Speaker 6 (01:34):
They tend to be Libs.

Speaker 5 (01:36):
They tend to have blue hair and for some reason
or a lot of times overweight. But we don't need
to talk about that specifically. Let's bring our panelists in
which we're gonna have a great time. Jamie Michelle is
the founder of Gaze Against Groomers and Jacqueline Horn is
the chair for the Georgia Young Republicans. Guys, thanks for
joining us. We really appreciate you taking the time.

Speaker 7 (01:55):
Happy to be here, Thanks for having us.

Speaker 6 (01:57):
Thank you.

Speaker 5 (01:58):
So before we get your comment, I want your reaction
to this. This is a CNN going.

Speaker 6 (02:04):
Over this poll. Well, let's play the video and get
your reaction after this. Watch this.

Speaker 8 (02:09):
I'm looking into whether or not Americans feel proud to
be an American in twenty fifteen. Look at this four
to five Democrats where extremely are very proud to be
an American. That number has plummeted, plummeted to just thirty
six percent. Now in twenty twenty five, only twenty four percent,
twenty four percent of Generation Z Democrats are extremely or

(02:31):
very proud.

Speaker 6 (02:31):
To be an American.

Speaker 2 (02:32):
That is actually lower Aerica.

Speaker 8 (02:33):
That is lower than the percentage who say they have
little or no pride to be an American at thirty
two percent. Well, this is where the trend line gets
interesting because Republicans there is no trend line. In fact,
take a look here, Republicans pride to be an American
extremely are very proud. In twenty fifteen, it was ninety
percent back when Barack Obama was serving as second term.

(02:55):
Now in Donald Trump's second term, it's basically the same percentage,
ninety two per.

Speaker 5 (03:01):
Jamie, I think we slowed down that proud. That's no
trend lines. Yeah, Republicans or Conservatives overall. Yeah, America is
a good idea, This is a good place. You know,
maybe we disagree with the policies of the administration, and
that's fine, you can pull that specific uh way that
people think. But at the same time, you're proud to
be an American regardless. Unfortunately, though it's not how the

(03:24):
Libs take it. What do you think is causing the
disastrous downfall of pride in being American?

Speaker 6 (03:32):
I probably know your answer, but your thoughts.

Speaker 9 (03:34):
Yeah, well, you know, I think I think it basically
always comes down to how they're raised and what they're
taught from a very young age. This generation gen Z
have been brought up to hate America, you.

Speaker 7 (03:46):
Know, more than ever.

Speaker 9 (03:48):
Teachers have been replaced by activists, and I think that,
you know, the results of that are starting to foment
in a big way, Like these people are becoming adults
now that have gone through this indoctrination in their whole lives,
and they're they're told and taught from a young age
that America is the bad guy. You know, We're guilty
of the greatest sins and no other country has ever

(04:10):
done anything bad. And it's like, you know, I think,
I think it's all catching up and they're just very resentful.
And I have always thought like, if if you don't
like it here, which is the greatest country on Earth,
I am happy to sponsor flights one way flights to
the Middle.

Speaker 7 (04:25):
East to Gaza.

Speaker 9 (04:27):
I've always felt like put your money where your mouth
is you know, they always say America is the worst,
but they never leave.

Speaker 5 (04:34):
Yeah, that's what you're saying, is that America hating teachers
are teaching kids to hate America, and therefore we're getting
the results of that. I feel like somebody should defund
any sort of department that puts into that. Maybe I
don't know, the Department of Education. I don't know if
that's all good, yeah or whatever. Jacqueline, So you're you're, you're,
you're immersed in young conservatives there in Georgia.

Speaker 6 (04:58):
Is there being a swing state?

Speaker 5 (04:59):
Well, hopefully not, but in the past couple of years
more of a swing state than I think we'd like
to see it. What's your kind of sentiment on the
ground there of people being proud to be an American.

Speaker 10 (05:10):
That's the funny part about it is you hit around
the head like we have teachers in colleges that are
teaching this crap and not even that going to younger
This is not something that's just magically happened over the
last five or six years. Right the TV shows that
younger kids are watching, even in like first grade, second grade,
middle school, it's already starting that miniature indoctrination where they

(05:33):
are going to college with these ideals and then they
have teachers saying, oh, yeah, actually, ideally socialism would be
great here, but no, America doesn't do that. They think
socialism is cool and it's such a problem where yeah,
adain like, if you don't like it, then don't stay here. However,
they know that and they enjoy what actually America in
the United States does provide for them. I think actually,

(05:54):
down deep, they know they can't get that anywhere else,
and so they're not gonna leave. But no, I mean
in the day, it's just these young democrats. I mean,
it's just it's insane. You don't see that on a
young Republican side at all, even during that presidency. We're
still proud to be an American.

Speaker 5 (06:09):
Yeah, yeah, because we understand that America is the best place.
So if both of you guys kind of hinted on
the hey, if you don't like it here, leave, which
I don't know if you guys know this, that is
bigoted and probably racist, unless, of course we're all Mexican
in Mexico, because there are protests going on there that
are hilarious, like somebody q the Atlantis Morris set. It

(06:32):
is an ironic song, because there is a protest going
on in Mexico City. If you haven't heard about if
people haven't heard about it, where people in Mexico City
are saying, we are tired of the foreigners. They're not
learning our language, they're trying to change our culture to
be unrecognizable. Yeah, that's the whole thing, Jamie. I guess,

(06:57):
considering the latter, the protest that we saw rights that
we saw the last over the last people, Yeah, of
saying like, yeah, come here, learn the language. We like immigrants,
but we need to learn the language, adapt of the culture,
and be assimilated to the customs of this country. I
don't know, is the irony too much for anybody else
or is it just me?

Speaker 9 (07:16):
Okay, I got to be completely honest. When I first
saw this story, I thought that it was a Babylon
b headline and that that was the source of all
of this. I'm like, there's no way this is actually
happening in Mexico right now, Like it can't actually be
true that these people are demanding all the things that
you know, conservatives and patriotic Americans and just any American

(07:36):
with half a brain is saying like it turns out
that that isn't a bigoted way of thinking.

Speaker 7 (07:41):
It's just common sense, you know, Like a country.

Speaker 9 (07:43):
Has borders, a country has a culture, and if enough
people come in that don't speak that language, that don't
follow the customs, that totally stomp all over anything that
it means to be Mexican or Mexico, suddenly that country
will no longer be Mexico. I mean, Mexico isn't just Mexico.
It's Mexicans, right, And that's the same with any country.

(08:06):
And it's it's outrageous that it's thought of to be
a bigoted position. But I hope now and I don't
have you know, I hope, but I don't have much
hope that left leftists will open their eyes and be
like and instead of saying, oh, they're big at it,
also that maybe they have a wake up call and
think like, oh, maybe maybe they're the right is onto something.

Speaker 7 (08:25):
But like I said, I have little hope for that.

Speaker 5 (08:28):
I was gonna say, I wish I were optimistic about this,
but everything that I've seen online is not oh hey hmm,
there are a lot of similarities here because they're doing
the same thing that we should be doing. And kicking
people out of the country that aren't adapted to the culture,
aren't assimilating.

Speaker 6 (08:44):
But Jacqueline, everything that I've seen is.

Speaker 5 (08:46):
Like, but it's different because it's Americans and we're bad
and we're going to do the whole colonization thing. And
of course none of that's true. But it doesn't seem
like any light bulbs are going off in their head.

Speaker 6 (09:00):
Is that What's what's going to take for that to happen?
If it can, I don't think it can.

Speaker 10 (09:05):
I mean, it's just it's only when we do it.
Apparently this is that's only bad when ever we do it.
And that's just what's absolutely insane to me is that
I didn't believe this was real at all. But I mean,
we would all be canceled over this. If I got
on here and said that and somehow that ends up
on Twitter, I would be canceled.

Speaker 7 (09:22):
I perfect job.

Speaker 10 (09:24):
I would wander be tair the ares because oh my gosh,
how dare she say something like that? But it's it's
I mean, it's true again, borders are here for a reason,
and just because we're trying to protect what we have
and what a great country this is. Does it make
it fidgeted for us to say, like, yes, actually I
want my here, I want to stay safe. There are

(09:44):
allowed to say it, so why can't we?

Speaker 5 (09:45):
But yeah, I mean people if the if the town
that they grew up in and lived in for their
entire life all of a sudden is completely different, you
don't think it's okay to be mad about that. I
don't quite understand the rationale there thinking speaking of things
that I don't quite understand the rationale behind.

Speaker 6 (10:01):
I thought this.

Speaker 5 (10:02):
Libs are big mad about this new IRS announcement, saying, hey,
we're not. We've got bigger fish to fry than going
after pastors or religious institutions for taking political stance. Now
we can go probably on a three hour podcast about
the Johnson Amendment and whether or not nonprofits should be
able to engage religious nonprofhit should be able to engage politically.

(10:23):
But libs are furious about this because well, most of
the time religious institutions are more conservative. Having said that,
it was twenty twenty one when Kamala Harris put a
video on three hundred churches around the state of Virginia
campaigning for Terry mcculliffe.

Speaker 6 (10:40):
No peeps out of the Libs there speaking.

Speaker 5 (10:43):
Of irony, Jamie, I don't know, is this a hill
that is worth dying on for Libs considering the fact
that they break all of the rules that they're now
mad about not being enforced.

Speaker 7 (10:55):
Yeah, I mean, I think.

Speaker 9 (10:56):
This is an example of something that could come right
back around and bite them in the Butke, you know,
they get so upset about certain laws and that are
being passed or certain policies that take action in the country.

Speaker 7 (11:10):
But I wouldn't. I would think that there are bigger
fish to fry.

Speaker 9 (11:14):
But you know, anything that gives the right a break
or just is a positive win in any way for
you know, it's not even it's not even a partisan issue.

Speaker 7 (11:22):
This this this action.

Speaker 9 (11:25):
But because most religious groups are conservative leaning, you know, now.

Speaker 7 (11:30):
They have a problem.

Speaker 9 (11:31):
But no, I think that they should probably focus on
other things, like like bringing their love of America back
up from plummeting levels.

Speaker 5 (11:40):
Yeah, that that might help just a little bit, uh, Jacqueline.
Specifically in your state, you got a senator there that
was the opposite of the majority of religious institutions that I,
like I said, kind of slank conservatively. But I believe
Raphael Warnock, Senator in Georgia was a big time into
the church movement, and I don't think he ever stayed
quiet about political beliefs if he ever was talking in churches.

(12:02):
So again the irony there, what's it going to take
to get Libs to realize that, hey, you're you're you're
gonna kick yourself in your own butt if you keep
dying on these sorts of hills.

Speaker 10 (12:13):
Well, they've been doing it for years. Like you mentioned
my film why Not at He's a reverend pastor of
his church here in Atlanta literally said from the pulpit
the abortion was okay. But I mean, I'm from a
small southern town in Georgia, and every election year there's
always the march to the poles, right, the local African
American person running for office is going to those small

(12:33):
African American churches and literally walking through the pole on
a Sunday afternoon where they have early voting available. They've
been doing this for years, and so yes, I mean,
obviously it'd be nice if for a change, Republicans to
probably do this and not get the hate for it.
Same thing in Georgia and Dan's bulgence and Freitlin, who

(12:54):
is very much involved with turning point, faith, I believe
he I think teeters that line historic very well to
where I know he'd a lot I hate for things
that he was saying during sermons. But again, if the
rack A left him do it and say god awful
things from a pulpit, why can't we actually promote what
true values are for the Republican Party?

Speaker 5 (13:13):
There is Yeah, and again, at the risk of diving
onto a much bigger conversation, there's a guy out here,
Pastor Jack Hibbs, who has been baiting the Supreme Court
to take this up because he thinks the Johnson Amendment
is unconstitutional, and I happen to agree with him. But yeah,
it don't get really interesting to see on the constitutionality
of that on the long term, but in this particular instances, Yeah,

(13:33):
it is interesting that Libs are freaking.

Speaker 6 (13:36):
Out about this so much.

Speaker 5 (13:37):
Jamie and Jaqueline will be back after the break to
discuss what I think is the most annoying, freaking thing
that TSA has done in the last and that's saying
something in the last couple decades, as well as checking
in with Monica Page troning points White House Correspondent Don't
go Away.

Speaker 11 (13:51):
Will be right back after the break.

Speaker 5 (14:14):
Welcome back to Turning Point tonight. We're together, we are
charting the course of America's cultural comeback. Let's check in
with Turning Points, white Est Courts, Bonding, Monica Page at
the White House.

Speaker 6 (14:22):
Monica, thanks for joining us.

Speaker 5 (14:24):
So I would probably be doing professional malpractice to not
at least bring up the Epstein story at this point
in time. I think anybody watching will probably go, yeah,
you're gonna They're enough time to break down the entirety
of it. But give us what the White House is
saying in their kind of response to the controversy or

(14:47):
the story or what's going on at the White House.

Speaker 12 (14:51):
Well, of course, today today was the cabinet meeting. That
was the sixth cabinet meeting of President Trump's second term.
You prepare that to the previous administration Joe Biden only
nine in, who's through the entirety of his four years
as president. So this was his sixth of his second term.
And we actually heard from multiple members of his cabinet,
including Attorney General Panmbondi, who's really been kind of like

(15:12):
this forefront and this provider of information regarding the Epstein files.
A lot of people at the White House here have
been really asking about it, acquiring about the status, you know,
some of the maybe flashing of different kinds of information
that we heard out of the White House. The President
taking a more serious tone today in the Cabinet room.
He wasn't too happy to hear questions regarding Jeffrey Epstein.

(15:33):
He would much rather hear about a lot more of
the winds coming out of the White House as it
pertains to immigration and tariffs. But of course, Attorney General
Panmbondi kind of tried her best to clarify what she
meant when she did her Fox newsit talking about the
files being on her desk, and she also is looking
into the one minute of surveillance footage that has been
mysteriously cut out in that cell in that prison central

(15:56):
kind of area. And she said that, well, the footage
and those cameras were dating back to the nineties, so
just because of how old they are, it just kind
of like this factory reset every night, So every single footage,
every single night is going to miss one minute of
content that's not just exclusive to this Jeffrey Epstein case.
But she is working, she said, to recover that one

(16:17):
minute of lost footage and that's all she really said
about it in today's cabinet meeting. So no news, but
still news coming out.

Speaker 5 (16:23):
See, I want to reiterate, if you want the full
deep dive, there are several other great shows on this platform,
especially Charlie Kirkshaw. I'm sure him and Jack Pisovic are
talking about it quite a bit. But obviously that's not
the only thing going on. Anything else come out of
the cabinet meeting that is interesting. There's also President Trump
the meeting again with Nettan Yahoo. What else is going
on at the White House.

Speaker 12 (16:43):
Yeah, So the meeting opened up with a brief kind
of explanation as to what's happening over in Texas, what
local officials and leaders are doing, and of course the
President did confirm that he is traveling this Friday to
Texas with the First Lady to meet with some of
those recovery efforts and some of those local officials down
there who have been really leading the charge. And huge

(17:04):
news coming out as it pertains to tariffs. Of course,
we know that the tariff deadline has been pushed to
August first, and so far this year, the United States
has taken about one hundred billion dollars in terror of
revenue just this year so far, and it could be
up to three hundred billion dollars by the end of
this year. And that's given that, you know, all the

(17:24):
other trade deals worked out with other countries. So that's huge.
And of course the President also touting the success of
Operation Midnight Hammer as it pretends to the Middle East.
President Trump also saying that he is meeting with Israeli
Prime Minister Benjamin Emyahu yet again. He had that meeting
last night and dinner with Israeli Prime Minister. He's meeting
with the Israeli Prime minister again to talk exclusively Gaza,

(17:45):
talking about how both sides want to get an end
to this war. Talk more about proximity, talks, talk about
you know, who's going to be leading after Hamas is
completely decimated, what does leadership look like in that region.
A lot coming out as far as Russia as well.
President Trump expressed a lot of dissatus faction with Russia
and how it just continues to keep this war going
with Ukraine against Ukraine. And of course President Trump also

(18:07):
said that we are giving Ukraine those anti tank busters
and also plenty of other missiles to continue the fight
and just to make sure that this war comes to
an end, because the President says, you know, it's clear
Ladder Imputin hasn't been coming to the table to make
efforts to end this war. So you know what, if
this is what it's going to take, then President Trump says,
you know what, here's more weapons to Ukraine for the

(18:29):
time being.

Speaker 5 (18:31):
Yeah, sounds like a lot other things going on at
the White House today, Monica Page, make sure give her
a follow on X. We've got a busy rest of
the week going to Tampa for the Student Action Summit
to Turning Points, one of their flagship events there, So
keep up with Monica on X.

Speaker 6 (18:45):
Monica, thanks for joining us.

Speaker 2 (18:47):
Thanks so much for having me jobob Thank you.

Speaker 5 (18:50):
As if we didn't have enough problems in this country
with the legality of things, there's also the moral understanding
that hey, you just shouldn't do so things and yeah
it's illegal, but it's hard to enforce, so you just
shouldn't do it. Unfortunately, that thought process hasn't permeated to driving.

Speaker 6 (19:09):
This is my biggest fear overall.

Speaker 5 (19:12):
I make my wife and daughter drive in the biggest
car that we can possibly get because too many people
are on their freaking phones NonStop. Let's bring our panel back,
Jamie Michelle, Jaqueline Horn. Guys, this is a fascinating and
troubling and kind of horrifying statistic coming out. Twenty one
percent of young drivers say that the twenty one Sorry,

(19:36):
let me rephrase that.

Speaker 6 (19:37):
I'm getting the statistic entirely wrong. I don't want to
mislead people.

Speaker 5 (19:39):
Young drivers on masks say that on average, twenty one
percent of their time driving, which is way worse, is
spent checking their phone. Now, obviously there are rules against this,
There are laws against that, but they're so difficult to
enforce that it just continues to happen. Jamie, I know
this is I'm trying to effectively ask you to solve

(20:00):
world hunger here. What how do you get the message
through to young people in this particular instance, but in
just in many other instances, that there are just some
things that you shouldn't do, not because you won't get caught,
just because it's the right thing to do. It's it's
how you're going to best advance your your perspectives in life.

Speaker 6 (20:20):
What do we do in this situation?

Speaker 7 (20:22):
Okay, I got to be honest.

Speaker 9 (20:24):
This is one aspect, one reason among a few where
I'm actually anticipating and okay with the robot revolution, Like
when I see Tesla autonomous driving cars that you know,
when I when I see statistics like this the gen
Z and jen Alpha, I'm just worried they're too checked
out and too self absorbed. And I apologize to our

(20:44):
other guest if she is part of gen Z, but
you know, overall, I think that they're just too distracted.
They have the attention spans of ants, maybe less, and
I think that the robots here could really keep us
all safe, because that's terror. Fine.

Speaker 7 (21:00):
Yeah, sorry, I actually had this thought earlier.

Speaker 9 (21:04):
I mean, when it worries me for hospitals and doctors
and nursing care, nursing homes, all these things.

Speaker 7 (21:11):
I just I.

Speaker 9 (21:12):
Worry about these younger generations ending up taking over, and
I think.

Speaker 7 (21:17):
Robots could help out here.

Speaker 9 (21:18):
But I wish that wasn't my idea of a solution, unfortunately,
but I don't know what can help these kids.

Speaker 6 (21:25):
Yeah, it is a tough one.

Speaker 5 (21:26):
And like Jerry Seinfeld says that the younger generation, make
no mistake, they are here to replace us.

Speaker 6 (21:32):
Hopefully they do a good job at it.

Speaker 5 (21:33):
But again, Jacqueline, I kind of think this is emblematic
of a kind of bigger problem, Like Jamie was saying,
people just distracted all the time. You know, you've got
screen time that's going through the roof. A Harvard study,
interestingly enough, in conjunction with this, said that thirty percent
of the time spent on the phone is navigation, forty
percent is just texting, and sixty five percent of people
on their phone is just entertainment. In other words, there's

(21:56):
no like necessity to it's just I want to watch
this Netflix show, my next episode of the Office, and
I want to keep going. Uh, same kind of question.
I know this is very difficult and very broad, but
how do we fix this or at least take steps
towards fixing it.

Speaker 10 (22:10):
I mean it's hard. She's one hundreds of right. I
am gen Z and so I can definitely say this, Yes,
we have difficult. Attention span is so bad, like and
I mean down on top of it. I don't know
if any of y'all have driven through the city of Atlanta,
you will see all kinds of things driving through Atlanta,
Like I've seen people on their phones while eating a
Chripotle burrito before all is seven lanes of traffic going

(22:32):
into downtown Atlanta. And so it's a huge problem. I
don't know one hundred percent how you fix it. I
think generations, as we're having kids and more generations are
obviously having the younger children maybe solving not always just
putting a phone or an iPad into their hand where
they need so accustomed to having a streen at all times.

Speaker 7 (22:52):
I mean, i' about y'all.

Speaker 10 (22:53):
I see that in the grocery store. Can be sure
wherever I'm going if a kid's yelling all of a
sudden a phone or an iPad and they're just on
it all times. And so we're already keeping that bad
precedent going. And so sure are we can bland future
and a previous generation for that. We're always hating the screens,
But it's a problem. It's a definite problem.

Speaker 5 (23:15):
Yeah, they didn't raise themselves. That's always worth the keeping
in perspective.

Speaker 6 (23:19):
Glad you're doing that. Here's some perspective.

Speaker 5 (23:22):
This is I I'm not talking about the good TSA members,
but the majority of people that work at TSA. I
freaking don't understand how you live your life. Why is
it some airports I have to take my laptop out
of my bag, the other airports I don't.

Speaker 6 (23:38):
But both of them say condescendingly.

Speaker 5 (23:41):
Sir, keep your you're supposed to keep as if it's
all consistent. Hopefully there's some consistency coming in to TSA. Now,
the TSA folks at the federal level of say, hey,
we're gonna stop making people take their shoes off. It's
been happening since two thousand and six because some idiot
tried to light his shoes on fires on a transatlantic

(24:01):
flight and it didn't work. Now all of us have
had to take our shoes off for the last ten years. Jamie, Personally,
I'm excited about this. Do you think TSA is going
to get better after this?

Speaker 6 (24:14):
I don't know.

Speaker 9 (24:15):
I mean traveling going through airport security is one of
the most painful experiences. It's just excruciatingly slow and stupid.
I feel like none of their rules makes sense, and like,
exactly as you were saying, taking your laptop outs at
some airports but not at others, and having to take
your jacket off and then your shoes, and like, I
feel like the next step is them making us walk

(24:36):
through the security on our hands, like doing a handstand through.
There's just what is the point? So yeah, I agree,
I think that this is awesome. I hope that it's
implemented nationwide and then after that there's more cohesiveness through
all the regulations, like you know with laptops and jackets
and the rest.

Speaker 7 (24:55):
It's just I feel like we're in twenty twenty five.

Speaker 9 (24:57):
All this technology is advancing, but TSA is still stuck in,
you know, decades behind.

Speaker 5 (25:03):
I was gonna say, when anybody makes the case for
bigger government, I always point to the DMV, but a
close runner up is freaking TSA. Jacqueline, you excited about this?

Speaker 6 (25:13):
What are your thoughts?

Speaker 10 (25:14):
Oh, definitely, I know on I think the rest I
fall this was Atlanta was on the list for it,
and we're one of the busiest airports in the country,
and thankfully I will no longer be having to take
my shoes off. But you're right about consistency too, And
my biggest problem with TSA is, yes, I understand to
a degree, they serve their purpose. I am glad no
one's allowed to bring random stuff on planes, but they
don't always catch everything. Like I had a friend recently

(25:36):
who flew through the Atlanta airport with a taser in
her backpack did not say a single word. That was
flying back, I believe from Dallas or Houston, and they
caught it there. And if he's on some like no
filence or like that, yes or something else. And so
if you're going to make this go through all the
hoops and obstacles, at least like catch everything in my mind,
because I look at stuff like that and I'm nervous,

(25:58):
and also like to your point, I don't be rude
when I asked, Hey, don need to take my laptop out.
Don't yell at me like take of course your laptop out.
Like every airport I've been to is a little bit different.
Sometimes I don't, sometimes I do. Sometimes they want to
stand a through separately.

Speaker 7 (26:11):
I don't know.

Speaker 10 (26:12):
I don't have a little black book of what each
airport like.

Speaker 5 (26:15):
Yeah, consistency is the main concern that I have. And
of course Jacqueline was telling a fictional story for entertainment
purposes only about her friend that wasn't actually real, it
didn't actually happen. Just to protect you and your friend
here liability wise, Jamie and Jacqueline, thank you guys so
much for joining us. Really appreciate you taking the time.

(26:35):
I would love to have you back soon.

Speaker 7 (26:37):
Thanks, have a great night.

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We'll be right back after the break.

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Speaker 15 (28:01):
How can a mother who has to work be more
intentional with the time that she does have with her
kids to avoid attachment issues.

Speaker 16 (28:09):
There's an exercise in my book. I have a new
book out called Raising Mentally Strong Kids, and one of
my favorite exercises is special time. Twenty minutes a day,
do something with your child that your child wants to do,
and during that time, no commands, no questions, no directions,

(28:31):
It's just time to be together. And it's like gold
that it's not a lot of time, but it's consistent
time on a regular basis that helps solidify the bond
between you and the child. And if during that time

(28:52):
you practice what I call active listening, where you don't
talk a lot, you just basically listen and repeat back
what they say to you, the bond becomes stronger. And
you know, with ninety percent of moms working outside the home,
they often feel so guilty they end up doing way

(29:16):
too much for their kids. And this way, it's like, look,
I have time every day, your time and it doesn't
have to be a lot, but being consistent is magical.

Speaker 15 (29:31):
Why should the rate at which the United States perform
sea sections greatly alarm us?

Speaker 16 (29:37):
The sea sections do not allow the baby to go
through the birth canal, and that means the baby's microbiome,
the one hundred trillion bugs in the baby's gut, is
not going to get populated in the most healthy way,
which is going through birth. Truly, So in my mind,

(30:02):
that's one of the biggest risks not to mention the
surgery for the moment.

Speaker 15 (30:09):
How can you decipher hyperactivity in a child from just
kids being kids?

Speaker 16 (30:15):
So thirty percent of three year olds are hyperactive, only
about five to ten percent of four year olds are hyperactive.
So sometimes being hyperactive is just a developmental delay. Sometimes
it's the food they eat. I'm so happy that RFK

(30:36):
Junior just banned red dye number forty. If you have
a hyperactive child, the first thing to go is what
am I feeding that child? And if you take away
some of the ultra process foods, you just can't believe
the number of kids whose behavior gets better. Plus your

(30:57):
behavior gets better if you eating them, And so I
think that's the first thing. And I don't think ADHD
should be diagnosed before four unless it's really by a
child psychiatrist who's an expert.

Speaker 15 (31:16):
Are we unintentionally training kids to be emotionally fragile by
overprotecting them from stress.

Speaker 16 (31:25):
Absolutely, if you do too much for a child, you
build your self esteem by stealing theirs. That self esteem
comes from your ability to solve problems, from your ability
to contribute. If you're always doing things for them, they're

(31:48):
not developing a sense of competence, and competence feeds self esteem.

Speaker 15 (31:55):
You know who Jonathan Hyde is, right, I do. He's
kind of started this independence challenge and he's been encouraging parents.
You know, let your child five, six, seven years old, whatever,
something that you think emotionally they're capable of doing, do
it on their own. So going into a restaurant or
a small bakery, getting something, ordering it, coming outside to
you by themselves, things like that. And this has really

(32:18):
divided parents on the Internet. Half of them are up
in arms. If I saw a child go into Chick
fil A buy themselves to buy a smoothie, even if
his mom was outside, I would call CPS. And then
you have the parents that are like, I love this idea,
I'm going to encourage my kid at the ballgame to
walk to the concession sign, walk to the concession stand
by himself, and come back to me and kind of
learn how to do something on his own. Where do

(32:40):
you fall in this camp?

Speaker 16 (32:41):
I love that let's help them be competent, but while
they're walking to the concession stand, make sure you have
your eyes on them so that somebody doesn't grab the kid. Right,
you always have to have enough anxiety. You don't give
them free rein. But the more they can do on

(33:01):
their own, the more competent they're going to be doing.
Too much for child is bad for the child.

Speaker 15 (33:12):
Can a child's diet in the first five years predict
their mental health at twenty five.

Speaker 16 (33:19):
Your diet at any age is going to predict your future.
I mean, just look at corn dogs. They have twenty
nine ingredients and most of them you wouldn't recognize as food.
And it used to be when I was growing up,
maybe you go out d eat twice a month, and
now people go out to eat twice a day or more.

(33:43):
And so the food in fast food is just loaded
with poisons. And I think we have to be so
thoughtful that I think one of the reasons we have
more autoimmune disorders is people reading more taco bell in
places like them.

Speaker 15 (34:03):
What do the brain scans show of those children exposed
to chronic screen time?

Speaker 16 (34:08):
So less activity in the dopamine centers of the brain,
So the pleasure centers in the brain become less responsive
over time. If you hit them over and over and
over with video games and phones and iPads, you just

(34:31):
wear them out. And it's sort of like we've thrilled
their pleasure centers to death, and we should be very
worried about it. And I sort of figured it out
in nineteen eighty seven. My son was in sixth grade
and getting great grades, and then Atari came out with

(34:53):
the first video games, and I saw they just stole
his attention. And then we we started fighting about it,
and I'm like, no, no, no, we're not fighting about it.
And the video games left the house. He said, when
are they coming back? I said, I don't think we're
coming back. And I have seen this since then. Accelerate

(35:15):
to these incredible three D video games. The kids get
clearly addicted to so addicted to their phones, addicted to
these video games, and then you wonder why this dramatic
increase in ADHD and the use of riddle in a
nateral which for the right people, they're miraculous medications, but

(35:40):
not when it's environmentally induced ABP.

Speaker 15 (35:44):
Well, these kids, some of them are so addictive. They're
peeing in you know, like water bottles and stuff so
they don't have to get up from their gaming seat.
I've talked to doctor Nicholas Cardaris about this before in
his specialties video game addiction in children, and he said
that that was an epidemic. He noticed they all had
gatorade bottles and stuff filled with P because they're so
addicted they can't even take two minutes to have a

(36:06):
bathroom break.

Speaker 16 (36:07):
Yeah. Now, if I'm the parent, we're not having that
in our house. That there is not anything good about
that developmentally for their brains. And then we have to
wonder what AI is going to do to their brain.
I mean, it's not going away, so we have to

(36:27):
figure out how to use it. But I'm very worried
because we're unleashing this technology video game cell phones without
any long term neuroscience study, and Australia banned social media

(36:47):
for kids under sixteen. I love that it's taking what
we know in neuroscience that exposure to social media is
harmful for children and teenagers and turning it into public policy. California,
you cannot start public high school before a thirty in

(37:08):
the morning. And I love that because it's taking what
we know in neuroscience and turning it into public policy.

Speaker 15 (37:16):
What does neuroscience tell us about the ideal start time
for elementary school kids?

Speaker 16 (37:22):
So it's probably the same, it's probably a thirty or
nine o'clock because and it's why I've been a fan
for a long time of homeschool, because the one thing,
the one huge benefit of homeschool is not everybody has
to get up at six o'clock. And you know, mom

(37:43):
can sleep later, Dad can sleep later, the kids can
sleep later and sleep. It's probably the single most mental
health strategy because when you get good sleep, your brain
cleans and washes itself. If you don't sleep, it turns
off seven hundred health promoting.

Speaker 6 (38:12):
Welcome back to Turning Point tonight.

Speaker 5 (38:14):
We're together. We are charting the course of America's cultural comeback.
My name is Joe Bob. Thanks so much for sticking
with us. As always, you can email us anytime you
want TPT ATPUSA dot com, whether you agree or whether
you're wrong. There were several people that emailed yesterday, but
I forget what it was. There was a common thread about, oh,
that's what it is, and I don't want to ruffle

(38:34):
any feathers here, but a bunch of people are talking
about the New York City race and there's another guy
running that's not getting too much airtime, and I'm sorry,
I forget his name.

Speaker 2 (38:45):
But the.

Speaker 5 (38:47):
Unfortunately, the overwhelming probability is that somebody on the opposite
side of the aisle will win, probably either the moderate
LIB or the crazy LIB. And so trying to deny
that realities is tough and unfortunate. It's unfortunate, but that
seems to be the case. That was the common theme
yesterday that we got several emails on. But again, you

(39:09):
can email the show and Tim you want, tpt at
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Turning Points flagship events. There are still tickets available, go
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can get to the Tampa area. Oh my gosh, look
at the time. Hope to see you and Tampa. Come
say hi if you happen to be there. I don't
know if we have a theme for this. I don't
know if this is a TikTok Tuesday, but I thought
this video was hilarious. And I'll say this, some cultures
are better than others. Don't make fun of you know,

(39:54):
I guess more specific particular stuff.

Speaker 6 (39:57):
In people's calls. Don't be mean on the internet is
when I'm trying to say, but this is still funny.
Watch this.

Speaker 10 (40:02):
Even someone else way passing as me has received Indian
racism online.

Speaker 12 (40:06):
Okay Kumar, if her parents didn't immigrate here, or she'd
be sleeping in cows with no rights?

Speaker 16 (40:12):
The irony?

Speaker 10 (40:13):
My mom, Hey, I got.

Speaker 16 (40:18):
I got a racist comment?

Speaker 7 (40:20):
Do you want to hear it?

Speaker 1 (40:22):
What is it?

Speaker 16 (40:23):
If her parents did not immigrate here, she would be
sleeping in cows.

Speaker 10 (40:28):
With no rights.

Speaker 16 (40:28):
The irony you.

Speaker 10 (40:33):
In cows with no rights? The irony? Oh is that true? How?

Speaker 11 (40:41):
What does that mean?

Speaker 10 (40:42):
They're saying, if I was still in India with you, we
would be sleeping with cows in. But you didn't have
cows in your house? Right we did have cowsing?

Speaker 13 (40:54):
Oh big?

Speaker 10 (40:55):
Do I have to go.

Speaker 12 (41:02):
Again?

Speaker 6 (41:02):
Rude comments on the internet? Not you know'd be more
civil than that.

Speaker 16 (41:07):
But also.

Speaker 5 (41:10):
We didn't Yeah, we didn't add cows in the house. Right,
Oh yeah, we did. I just some cultures are better
than others. That's I think the main thing that I'm
trying to display here. Some cultures have weird customs that
we don't want to have here in the United States
of America. There's so many people that talk about the
whole racial makeup and skin color. Nobody cares about that.

(41:32):
Come to the United States, work hard, learn the language,
assimilate to the culture, and everything will be fine. That's
that's that's what we want to have happened. But when
you're saying, yeah, this is these countries are the same
as you.

Speaker 6 (41:46):
Doesn't matter where you live, that all cultures the same. No,
they're not some customs.

Speaker 5 (41:51):
Some cultures are better than others, as indicated by that
poor young woman who would have been apparently living with
cows in her house according to her mother.

Speaker 6 (42:00):
Their life on the internet too funny.

Speaker 5 (42:04):
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We'll see it tomorrow. But also sas twenty twenty five
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Have a great arrest of Joe. Charlie's gonna take us
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Speaker 11 (42:25):
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(43:15):
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like changing sas twenty twenty five dot com. Yesterday we
made some news, and it seems it's very interesting. We
made some news, as we reported on this program that
there was a push below the surface to try and
sneak in amnesty after the passage of the One Big

(44:22):
Beautiful Bill. Now, mind you, a lot of people covered
this yesterday, but no one called us a liar. Do
you notice that no one said that we were.

Speaker 2 (44:31):
Lying and staid.

Speaker 3 (44:32):
We had Jim Banks, we had Mike Lee, we had
Eric Schmidt all come out and affirm and say no amnesty.
In addition, we had Byron Donald's come on our program
on this show and say, yep, Charlie, I'm here in
the very same rumors. In fact, I received a phone
call from a top senator yesterday.

Speaker 2 (44:56):
While I was actually.

Speaker 3 (44:57):
In the gym, and he's guy that I know, and
he says, Charlie, I saw your tweet, saw your show.
I'm gonna say is that there are some conversations out there.

Speaker 2 (45:09):
How did you know this question?

Speaker 3 (45:11):
I said, oh, we have very good sources here, and
he assured me that it was not going to be amnesty. Now,
in that conversation, many other conversations, I have an idea
of what potentially could be proposed, and we're going to
try to flush it out.

Speaker 2 (45:25):
We're going to explain it. But very important.

Speaker 3 (45:27):
Though, the Secretary of Agriculture and a friend of mine,
I've known her for well over a decade, Brooke Rowlins,
who's a good person, came out today and she said declaratively,
no amnesty. She came out today and she said there
will be no amnesty. The mass deportations will continue, but
in a strategic way. Brooke Rollins deserves credit for this

(45:48):
because she's gonna get a lot of heat from the
agricultural lobby. She's gonna get a lot of heat from
the farm lobby. So good for you, Brooke Rollins for
saying this. Let's play cut two ninety six.

Speaker 17 (46:00):
I think we'll probably hear a little bit more about
this today and the conversations will continue. But I can't
underscore enough. There will be no amnesty. The mass deportations continue,
but in a strategic way, and we move the workforce
towards automation and one hundred percent American participation, which again
with thirty four million people able bodied adults on Medicaid.

(46:20):
We should be able to do that fairly quickly.

Speaker 2 (46:22):
Now.

Speaker 3 (46:23):
Strategic way is understandable, but we also must keep the
heat on, which means that, look, if there are some
farms that have engaged with illegals for the last ten years,
they got to go. However, there's a process which is
like we're going to give you twenty day warning, you know,
fifteen day warning, you have to scale back. You have
to be able to find American labor or find legal

(46:43):
immigrant labor if necessary.

Speaker 2 (46:44):
And again, a whole legal h two bbs.

Speaker 3 (46:46):
I'm a little skeptical that I think that whole thing
is a little bit of a scam. By the way,
of all the different places that we need to do deportations,
there are places that are that are just glaring in
front of us, where yes, we can work the falls,
but there are places that are currently displacing Americans that
want a lot of other jobs in this country. We

(47:08):
have a legal immigration system, which by the way, I
think we need a full pause on because we have
way too many people in this country. But these they
should not be here in the first place. And it's
been this amazing last twenty four hours to witness major senators,
major lawmakers come.

Speaker 2 (47:24):
Out and affirm exactly what.

Speaker 3 (47:26):
We have been saying on this program, and to reiterate
saying Charlie, you're right, there is a push for this.

Speaker 2 (47:35):
Now.

Speaker 3 (47:36):
I want to now articulate what some people are proposing
as the solution, because right now we have a declarative statement.
President Trump's not saying for amnesty. Brook Ronald's not staying
for amnesty. But this is a little bit of a
word game. It's going to be a little bit of semantics.
So let me tell you what will likely be a

(47:56):
proposal that will be shy out there, and the word
Let me be very clear, the word amnesty is dead,
but the essence of amnesty very well might not be dead.
I'm just gonna be honest. We have killed the word amnesty.
No one's using the word amnesty. We have just completely
just buried the word amnesty. It is so unpopular no

(48:20):
one's ever going to use it. But the spirit of
amnesty is still very much alive in Washington, d C.
Not from Brook and not from President Trump. I think
that they are standing from with their base, but that
does not mean that there will be a one, two, three,
combo move. And just this morning I got a text
message that reiterates this good guy owns a hotel and

(48:41):
some other stuff. He says, Charlie, I can't find workers
and I can't run my hotel. I mean, there's going
to be a kind of a red alert, kind of
ten out of ten deaf con one crisis that will
be communicated from the corporate class saying that we need
a bunch of illegals. We can't keep our our business
is open. So that's going to be the opening salbum.

(49:02):
Let me tell you what is going to happen is
that you're going to see a narrative in the next
couple of months at some way, because you know they're
distracted right now, and by the way, this stuff in
Texas is just terrible. You're going to see a narrative.
And when you see one of these synthetic counterfeit narratives,
that's why the Charlie kirksh what we do here in
this program so important. We are pre bunking and we
are preparing you for what is coming next. Is there

(49:22):
will be all of a sudden front page Wall Street Journal,
front page New York Times. It'll be so it'll be
so concocted, it'll be so synthetic, you'd be like, this
is this seems fake because we're pre bunking it. And
it'll basically say massive amounts of businesses can't find workers
because of Trump's mass deportation. So that will be the prerequisite,

(49:44):
and it might happen this summer. Don't be shocked if
they're saying summer vacations are being put in jeopardy by
Trump's mass deportations. So that is the leading argument. It'll
come from the corporate class.
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