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Speaker 1 (00:09):
The WNBA has new franchise expansions. Full team coverage coming
up next. Also, Scotus weighs in on whether President Trump
can fire a bunch of Department of Education employees, and
the Lives have a front runner for the twenty twenty
eighth presidential election. All that more coming up on this
episode of Turning Point Tonight. My name is Joe Bob.
(00:30):
Thanks so much for tuning in. Together, we are charting
the course of America's cultural comeback. This is Turning Point Tonight.
And before we get to that, in our fantastic panel,
we got to check in on the blue hairs in
Los Angeles. Last week, Mayor Karen Bass of LA said
that illegals who are scared of ice will now get
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money for staying home from work because they don't want
to go to work because they're afraid that ice might
pick them up. So what are they gonna do. They're
gonna get free money at home. Reminds me of COVID
two point zero now. Mayor Karen Bass also went on
to say that, well, this money is not going to
come out of the city coffers, not going to be
from the city accounts. It's going to be from nonprofit
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charity organizations. Okay, well that might be so. But the
charity organization that she picked, interestingly enough, where do they
get their money? The Coalition for Human Immigrant Rights of
Los Angeles. It's a long title. Is the key charity
that's going to be giving these illegals free money. And
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they got thirty four million dollars in twenty twenty three
from the California state taxpayers, among many other different grants.
In other words, no, this money is not coming from taxpayers.
It's coming from a nonprofit who got their money from taxpayers,
all for being afraid of ice. According to my comment
section I as well, she'd be very afraid of ice,
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in which case, Karen Bass I'll send you my Venmo,
my Zell account. Please send me some money as soon
as possible. Here to comments on that and so much more.
As Turning Point contributor Anthony Watson and host of The
David Pollock Show, it's the man himself, David Pollack. Guys,
thanks for joining.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Me, thanks for having us on.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
So happy to be here, Anthony. I'll start with you
here this. I don't understand how libs can't read the
room here. The majority of Americans are like, yeah, get
the criminal illegals out of the country. And here they
are in Los Angeles saying, hey, if you're afraid to
go to work, we get it. Here's a credit card
with money on it that's effectively taxpayer money, so you
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can stay home. What is going on there?
Speaker 3 (02:43):
Well, if anyone has any lack of common sense, which
the Left doesn't, it doesn't matter if the illegals are
at work, or if they're traveling in transit, or if
they're at home. If you are here illegally, Ice will
find a way to locate you, arrest you, and deport you.
So if you want to get extra money just to
stay at home and not be able to spend it
because it's just a matter of time before you're arrested
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and deported again, then by all means, keep going for it.
But how many other crises do we have to have?
Remember all the money that they got for people with
monkey pocks when that was spreading around. Then when New York,
you know, the governor was like, if you guys get
your new booster shots, we're gonna give you free French fries.
And I'm just like, when money is running out and
all the things that keep going on is just another issue,
another thing, other things that keep popping up, you know,
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for people that keep having the same issue happening with
no long term solution.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
That that reminds me of, Yeah, that build the Blasio
thing where he's eating the French fries, the world's tallest communists.
If you get this, this is the opportunity that you
will get if you get the Fauci Auci David the
La Times made the made the point that well, there's
no real coherent way that they've announced so far of
who is going to be able to get that money.
(03:53):
I myself, I don't live in Los Angeles, but I'm
also scared of ice, not the immigration enforced, know, the
frozen water. Do you think I qualify for that? How
can I go about getting some of that money?
Speaker 4 (04:07):
Listen, I think LA is onto something because it's increasingly
unsafe to be anywhere in La. So why don't we
just give people money to be safe from LA in general?
I mean, that's what we need to start looking at.
Forget just ice, it's ice, riots, it's feces, it's floods
and fire. I mean literally, you can't go out in
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LA safely anymore. You can't even drive on the highway.
So I think we should just pay people to stay
home in la I think it's a brilliant strategy. I
think Mayor bass is onto something. Let's create so much
chaos that people just don't leave their house. It's probably
actually saves the taxpayer money to pay them to stay
at home, because if they leave, you know, then you
have to pay all the people to protest against them.
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So I think they have to figure out exactly where
it's best to spend their money. Lock them in home,
feed them a bunch of propaganda, get them afraid of
the world outside so they keep voting Democrat as long as.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
They don't move here.
Speaker 4 (04:59):
Let's not pay them to move out of the state
of California. We've already funded the border wall and the
big beautiful bill. Now maybe we can pay to fund
a border wall along the state of California and sign
me up to help.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
I'll build it with my bare hands.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
Yeah. Maybe they'll have an anti stepping in poop dividend
for Los Angeles and San Francisco as California continues to
seep into chaos. Speaking of ice and immigration, the Trump
administration has put a new policy in place saying that
detainees will not be able to have bail and bonds
to get out anthony, you know, semi ish controversial, but
(05:35):
it kind of seems to make sense if the whole
thing is that, well, they're in the country I legally,
and you can't find them after they're not going to
show up for their court dates, it would make sense
that you don't want these people out on bail even
if they could post it, which who knows if they can,
especially in those no bail states where it gets kind
of wonky between the federal government and the states.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
But outside of all of that, what do you.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
Think about this new policy implemented by the administration.
Speaker 3 (05:59):
Well, anyone would common sense who has a heart for
humanity and doesn't want crime is going to be, I
am assuming, going to be standing up and applauding that
people who do bad things don't get to get out
there and do more bad things. How many more lake
and rileys do we need to have? How many more
incidents with illegals, you know, harming and praying on our
American citizens do we need to go through to actually
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have it be taken seriously And the only people who
are affected by it. You know, are the nacho scalp
smelling blue haired, you know, septum piercings, you know, basement
dweller liberals that are out here that don't have any
clue of how the world world works, and then they
just want everything to be fair except for those who
oppose them. And every single time you see different things
like this happen, all of the things start falling apart.
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All of the chips keep going back to the same
places where they were because none of these things are
doing anything because there's no consequence to it. And the
minute you add a consequence and actually have a strong
arm to uphold that is now when people have an issue,
and the saying is true, if you don't want to
do the time, don't do the crime.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
It's that simple, uh, David. One of the big conflations
that people make is well, well being in the United
States illegally isn't a crime. Then there's obviously the back
and forth between whether you entered in overstate of visa
is different than if you've hopped the border. This specifically,
this policy is if you entered the country illegally, again,
not over state visa's not over state travel time, which
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is which is different. Why do you think the administration
made that delineation. Is that like a legal thing in
your mind or is it just hey, this is what
we can do right now and further note see further
nose what will end up happening with the people that
overstayed visas and that sort. I'm not sure if that
question makes sense, but I get it. I'm glad you
asked me.
Speaker 4 (07:37):
And I'm still getting over Anthony's Nacho scalp smelling, but anyway, yes,
I'm glad you asked me this question because this is
something we keep falling for on our side, because the
narrative has been we're deporting criminal illegal aliens, and so
they're like, what now they're rounding up people that aren't criminals,
(07:57):
And then our side says, well, if you entered the
kind try illegally or a criminal.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
It's actually really really simple.
Speaker 4 (08:04):
But the law requires, the law requires if you come
into the country illegally for you to be detained.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
That is the standard.
Speaker 4 (08:10):
It's an exception to release somebody instead of detention. The
only reason why we're doing it under the Biden administration
is because so many people were coming into the country illegally.
We didn't have a place to put them, so they
were kind of shipping them all over the place. A
lot of people thought maybe there was some funny business
going on with elections. But at the end of the day,
they are supposed to be detained by law. This whole
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idea that they're supposed to be released down in the country.
I understand they're illegally. You can actually go to a
checkpoint and apply for legal entry and you can say
I'm seeking asylum. These people come into the country illegally,
get apprehended and say wait, no, no, no, I'm going to
claim a soulum like, okay, that's cool, but you're still
going to jail and well detention until we can figure
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out if you actually have a valid asylum claim. And
what most people don't know is the majority of asylum
claims are invalid and they actually get sent back. And
so that's why these people are just appearing because they
know they're gonna get sent back anyway.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
So no, absolutely, why would you give them bail.
Speaker 4 (09:04):
They're going to be sent back and they know that,
so they're going to hide and commit crimes on American people.
This whole idea that they have to be criminals in
order to be detained is not consistent with the law,
and we need our side to be more consistent with
that and say.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
No, no, they don't have a right to just roam around.
They don't have a right to be in this country.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
What I to further echo your point? I don't know why.
The only argument that we have been making is, hey,
we're just following the law. Like if you're just gonna say, hey,
we're going to ignore federal some federal laws and follow
some of them. Might I suggest the IRS Tax Code
for a law that we should ignore, But then I
probably am speaking on the deaf ears on that one anthony. Yesterday,
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the Supreme Court, in kind of a full transition here
said that President Trump can move forward with firing a
bunch of people from the Department of Education. The Department
of Education was founded in nineteen eighty. Since then, adjusted
for inflation, the cost has doubled. However, test scores have
also gotten worse. So you know, at least there's that
(09:59):
you think, how do you think this is going to
play out with President Trump kind of getting this new
sort of authority from the Supreme Court.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
Well, now that it's gone through the Supreme Court. There's
really no law in the land or any appeals court
that can actually stop it, which is great because we've
all been saying the same thing. It's just like we've
never had any issues with any of the departments that
we've had and that have been instituted as long as
they do right by the American people. The Department of
Education is is there and exists to make the young
people of America and educators people that equip and empower
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people to actually better citizens for society. And now that
they failed by doing all of these transgenders, you know,
like the LGBTQ ideologies, now hiring teachers that are more
concerned with giving students their sexual orientation rather than social studies.
That's when you start having to clean house a little bit.
And the way I tell everybody else, it's just like
that's like if the United States a government was like
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a gym, and like you have everybody who's leaving obese
or there's nobody that's actually gaining weight or muscle.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
You have to go in and actually start.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
Cleaning out some of the departments that are actually doing
more harm for the people that go in and come
out and then start rebranding and be rebuilding all over
again so that it actually has a benefit for the
people who are around it.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
Yeah, they use the term gutting. I like the term reform.
That seems like it has a better political advantage, David.
The Supreme Court paused in order from a US district
judge in Boston, saying that, well, you can't fire anybody.
The Supreme Court said you can. That judge then said
that the layoffs quote will likely cripple the department, which
(11:32):
I said, sweet, sounds great. Are you making the argument
for me your thoughts here? Yeah, I agree with you us.
Speaker 4 (11:39):
My first instinct is good the Department of Education, and
you know, we all said it, it's become the Department
of indoctrination.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
You're exactly right.
Speaker 4 (11:46):
We spend twice as much money on educating kids and
we get half as much of an education. And the
worst part about this is, and this is why I
don't understand why Republicans aren't better at the messaging. Republicans
are big advocates of school choice is part of the
Big Beautiful Bill. Most conservatives want to see charter school opportunities,
private schoo opportunities, and scholarships for kids who can't afford
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to go to those places and more opportunities created. It's
a left who wants to lock people, especially from lower
ses communities who have less educational options, in failing public
schools so they can go and be threatened by violence
and get no education and no hope for an opportunity
in life. I don't understand why we're not stronger on
this messaging. You look at the Free State of Florida
where I live. We have school choice and they can't
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keep up with the demand. Schools are growing, and this
is what needs to happen nationally. The Department of Education,
I think is one of the worst things to happen
the education in America. Our schools are failing, Our student
scores are lower than they've ever been, and the proof
is in the putting. And so if we want to
invest in the future, we have to start investing in
our kids. And I think really though, they know and
they want to make sure that the programming continues. So
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people keep voting for people like Karen Bass in LA
because they think that that's what people want. So I
think that is their last front in the war against
our ideology.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
But I think we're gonna win it.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
Yeah, it's everything has gotten more expensive, but at least
also according to the Department Education, it's gotten worse. Hey,
Anthony and Dave will be back after the break to
discuss the new WNBA expansion teams, among other topics. And
we're also checking with Monica pagetren Points, White House Correspondent.
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in with Turning Points White House Correspondent Monica Page at
the White House thankfully still around after those brazen bags
were thrown over the gate, not just one, but multiple
(14:16):
can you tell us about what went down at the
White House today.
Speaker 9 (14:20):
Yeah, Joe Bob, it was quite an interesting morning.
Speaker 10 (14:22):
I was actually working at a local coffee shop because
it is very hot here at.
Speaker 9 (14:26):
The White House, it's very swampy.
Speaker 10 (14:27):
I want to make sure I can focus in a
climate controlled environment. So I was actually in a coffee
shop where I get a text message from some of
my colleagues saying that the Secret Service agents and police
were kind of rushing people into the press briefing room
without any warning, not told what's going on. So all
the reporters here on the North Lawn kind of piled
into the briefing room. The Secret Service agents seemed kind
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of not frazzled, but definitely there was a sense of
urgency what they kind of waited around for about twenty
minutes or so. Once they got the text message that
something was happening. I kind of meandered over here where
I talked Secret Service police and they told me and
confirmed that there was a bag thrown over the North
Lawn fence right here outside the White House. Apparently it
hit a tree before it fell to the ground, and
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the police were investigating what's in the bag, you know,
just the contents of what spilled out onto the ground.
And apparently this is the second time within twenty four
hours that something like this had happened. The night before,
just last night, they were dealing with another situation, different person, different.
Speaker 9 (15:25):
Kind of bag. I think they suspect.
Speaker 10 (15:27):
But someone's trying to throw bags over the north lawn
onto the ground here. But an investigation concluded after about
thirty minutes or so that it is not a threat,
nobody's hurt, everybody safe, and business is continuing on as
usual here, Joe Bob.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
So what I'm hearing is that you were not there
when the bag was being thrown. Therefore you and the
bag throw are not being seen the same place at
the same time. Suspicious Monica. Of course, do not.
Speaker 10 (15:52):
Put me on a watch list here, Joe Bob. But
I will say this is what happens. I don't want
to say this is what happens, but this is what
happens when you just let kind of anybody on the
north not on the north lawn, but kind of in
this park driveway area where you could just come right
up to the fence. There have been times where babies
have come through the fence here and land on the
North Lawn and Secret Service police have to actually physically
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go out and carry them back through security out into
the open public. Again, like, this is very much a
real threat every day, and I'm kind of surprised that
things like this don't happen more often. Honestly, I mean,
I hate to say that, but when you're dealing with
such polarizing times, you never know what you're gonna get.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
It's that strange balance between you have to keep everything
secure because you can't have anything going haywire, and it's
also the people's house, so there's kind of that tug
and pull there that is really really difficult to kind
of thread that needle. But again, glad everything is safe.
Hope there's no greater concern. But the President left the
White House today for Pittsburgh. What's going on there?
Speaker 10 (16:52):
Yeah, we were thinking that maybe the departure was going
to get canceled due to this supposed thread or you know,
of really any more information regarding this, but everything carried
on as usual. The President did leave off the South
Lawn via Marine one, so everything was good there. He's
heading to Pittsburgh today where he's meeting with Republican senator
Dave McCormick, and they're announcing this massive investment push into
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the city of Pittsburgh, once known as the Steel City,
still is known as the Steel City, but it was
once very much more prominently known as that and creating steel,
but now it might be a hub for artificial intelligence infrastructure.
You have dozens of major companies like Amazon, Blackstone, Google, Meta,
all donating millions of dollars to this new push that
will essentially bolster the AI industry, create more jobs, really
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take over the steel factories and make them into power
hubs and data centers to directly compete with China actually,
because we're in kind of like this economic tug of
war here, especially when it comes.
Speaker 9 (17:50):
To infrastructure and artificial intelligence.
Speaker 10 (17:52):
So this is really going to be huge for the
Keystone State, especially given that it's also the state of
Pennsylvania that's major in the elections and upcoming midterms.
Speaker 9 (18:01):
So this is a huge move for the president and
this administration.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
You know, we were in Pittsburgh not all that long ago,
and holy cow, was that a cool city. It's been
sad to see kind of the manufacturing industry go away.
But if they can revitalize that place, I love Pittsburgh
in so many different ways. Hopefully that's what's coming. Monica Page,
Turning Points, White House Correspondent, thank you so much for
joining us. Really appreciate taking the time.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
Thanks so much, Joe Bob, thank.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
You all right. Great hearing from Monica Page Treny Points,
White House Correspondent. We love hearing from every single day.
Let's bring back our panel. Anthony Watson and David Pollock. Guys,
the WNBA has announced two new expansion teams, the Portland
Fire and the Toronto Tempo. Anthony, your thoughts, David the
(18:46):
w what In other news the Democrats the Libs have
a front runner in their new election for the twenty
twenty eighth cycle. I'm sorry I couldn't keep it together
after the wnbaight thing. The Libs polling wise, have a
front runner and that front runner is none other than
former DEI Higher Vice President Kamala Harris leading the pack
(19:10):
by a ton, with Pete Buddhajees coming in eleven percent
and Gaven newsmen coming in at ten percent. Uh, Anthony,
who do you think the Libs are going to turn
to ultimately? Because everybody knows at the start of all
of these twenty twenty eight elections. We're still three and
a half years away from that. The the most recognizable
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name generally comes to the top of the polling. And
who do you think is ultimately going to come out
ahead on this? According to all the Libs.
Speaker 3 (19:38):
Well in the wise words of my nationality confused former
Vice President Kamala Harris, who was also my jamake the.
Speaker 11 (19:47):
Ammon, may not understand what in all these things it's messy,
may not understand a thing, may not get gna piece,
and nothing happening from all the things happening on the
politics in America.
Speaker 10 (19:58):
You know, you know Abby said.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
But anyway, all of that to say, all of these
things are just misguided tendencies because everybody else that has
common sense sees what. Everybody who had the option and
the ability to actually be in a position to do
better for the American people didn't do a thing. And
it was four years of blaming everybody else before them
when they did absolutely nothing. And if you guys don't remember,
remember when former Vice President Harris went to Puerto Rico
(20:23):
and she's dancing to a song from Puerto Ricans asking
her what the heck she's doing in their island. Make
that make sense.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
For the record, Anthony is also of Jamaican descent and
therefore can get away with doing that accent. I'm sure
some of us might feel a little bit scared there,
but yeah, no, very funny. I appreciate the artism, the
artistic expression there, David. I'm surprised that Governor Gavin Newsom,
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dictator of California, is so low on that, considering all
the media attention that he's gotten over the last month.
I think he's probably thinking I should be surging here.
Why is it that he's not higher than where he is?
Speaker 4 (21:09):
I see, I was going to answer in Patoa, but
you asked me about Gavin Newsom, so I'm gonna speak
just the normal English.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
Look.
Speaker 4 (21:18):
Gavin Newsom is not very popular in California. He even
had a recall there. I think he just comes off
as slimy and gross. And I'm gonna actually tell you
something else. Gavin Newsom is not liberal enough for the
liberals anymore. And that's the reality. Even as crazy as
he is and as left wings he tries to be,
Gavin Newsom is the Nancy Pelosi lineage.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
He's not the radical left.
Speaker 4 (21:40):
And so he's not even This is where the Democrat
Party is lives now. They want Bernie Sanders in AOC,
they want Elon Omar, they don't want Gavin Newsom. Gavin
Newsom is gonna end up like RFK Junior after this election.
He's gonna come begging Trump to allow him to join
the administration. He's gonna go to Jade Vance and be
like President Vance, can I please just join your administration
to do something politically relevant again, because he's not far
(22:01):
left radical enough.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
Listen, I'm all on board.
Speaker 4 (22:04):
Put Kamala up there, put them all there, because we'll
just easily win, just like we did with Hillary Clinton.
I don't want to see Gavin news And be honest
with you, I think he's more of a threat to
our move, you know, to the next election, than Kamala
Harris would, because he's slick and you know, he looks
good on camera and he says the right things, and yes,
please put up a socialist instead.
Speaker 12 (22:23):
Please.
Speaker 6 (22:23):
Yeah, I'm all.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
About to Mcgovala Harris lose again. I think that would
just be so funny and so delicious. But you mentioned
RFK and I thought this is interesting. I don't know
entirely how immediately relevant it is, but it is interesting
to see things going in this direction. The FDA approved
a new blue food dye made from natural sources, Anthony.
This is the fourth new food die, not chemically or
(22:48):
petroleum based, that the FDA has approved. And my question
is where has this been the entire time? Why wasn't
this kind of at the forefront of food manufacturers for
the last twenty years, and why is it just happening now,
despite the fact that we're all happy that it's at
least happening now.
Speaker 3 (23:06):
Well, I tell everybody else all the advancements in technology
where we have watches, rings, jewelry that can literally track
your body temperature, your sleep cycle, and everything else, and
you can honestly tell me that we haven't in all
of this time found a way to actually create something
that isn't going to harm us to now propped up
and promote you know, institutions like Big Pharma that create
these kinds of things to keep people sick because it's
(23:29):
a constant hamster will of supply and demand for that's
just an endless money trail. But you know, with all
of these different dyes that are coming in and coming out,
there's still going to be. Sadly, a large group of
people that for cost effectiveness will still go and eat
that kind of things. And for profitability, there's going to
be a lot of other people that are still going to,
you know, not take their health as seriously. But in
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the name of blue in this case, I'm blue auba
daba die? What can I say?
Speaker 1 (23:55):
Yeah? You know, I wonder if those blue hairs are
going to use the new fifty it proved dye to
color their hair in the way that they do. Uh, David,
your thoughts here? I guess my biggest and asked to
Anthony as well.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
Why wasn't this a thing?
Speaker 1 (24:11):
Why did it take the Maha movement for this to
become a thing? Why isn't it that food processors don't
have the best interest of their people that buy their
food in mind?
Speaker 4 (24:22):
Well, look, before I answer, standing objection to letting Anthony
Watson go first, because he says all the great lines
he's come on, it's not fair. Look, I think about
this all the time, Like you know, we've been more
health RFK woke me up right, and so I've been
walking around the aisles and then our family we have
autoimmune issues and so we've been more conscious of what
we bring in our homes. And you know, everything's branded
(24:43):
like healthy things, and you look at it, and then
you start to looking at greet So I'm like, wait
a second, This quote unquote healthy thing has all these
seed oils in it and has all these dyes and
ingredients that I can pronounce and preserves, and we're being
told it's healthy food.
Speaker 2 (24:55):
And then just like you said, you find out that we.
Speaker 4 (24:57):
Don't even have to use these ingredients and e're a
in other places where they ban these sort of dies
and ingredients, they're able to make the same products just
without the poison in it. So yeah, how does the
United States of all places? And look growing up, I
would look at the FDA and be like, oh cool,
our food secure. You think about going to Mexico and
you can't drink the ice, You're gonna get sick, right,
But it's the United States with the FDA that's actually
allowing people to make you sick.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
You have to go to Mexico to drink. We think
about this. We buy the.
Speaker 4 (25:21):
Mexican soda in the United States because it as real
sugar instead of corn syrup, and we have a federal
organization that is where you expect to protect us from this,
that are allowing these companies to cheapen up our food
in order to maximize profitability the expense of the American
health and of course that costs all of us more
money in our healthcare system. And I'm glad RFK is
shining a spotlight on this. We do need to make
(25:42):
America healthy again. Americans deserve to have quality ingredients in
their food and not be poisoned just because the FDA
says so.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
Amen. Yeah, it's crazy that we were buying, even at
any level, a healthier version from Mexico, which is crazy
to me. Anthony Watson and David Pollock, Thanks than you
guys so much for joining. Really appreciate you taking the time.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
Thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
Coming up next year on Turning Point Tonight, Tucker Carlson
is on with Alex Clark and the Culture Apothecary podcast.
Clip from that right after this don't go away. We'll
be back after the break.
Speaker 5 (26:19):
Got to admire what you've been able to do, not
to weaponize, but to organize on these college campuses.
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Speaker 13 (26:52):
When you dropped the interview with Calli and Casey Means,
I was like, oh, thank god, because if he's not
gonna listen to because I'm his daughter, so it's like,
he's not going to listen to me.
Speaker 14 (27:00):
I thought he's going to listen to you, like.
Speaker 13 (27:03):
If I say, well, Tucker Carlson's talking about this. So
I sent that episode and you know it was just
too late. But did you have a feeling in the
moment of the ripple effect that that episode was going
to Yeah.
Speaker 15 (27:13):
Yeah, I did. I've done you know, many thousands of
interviews over thirty five years, and occasionally, once or twice
a year you feel like, wow, this is really just
one of those moments like you have in life, you know,
with your wife or at dinner with your friends, there's
like some moment that you're just like, oh, this is unusual.
There's something else in the room with us. And I
(27:33):
felt that way very much. And actually a lot of
what I felt had nothing to do with with physical health.
It had to do with Casey means, his attitudes toward life.
Here's this woman who grew up in the neighborhood that
I lived in. I mean, they grew up like two
blocks from me in Northwest Washington, DC. I know the
world that they're from intimately, and it's very much a
merit badge type world. You know, like people's children are
(27:56):
measured by the schools they get into, the dumb jobs
they have at stupid companies. White kid works at Mackenzie
US at HBS and all this sort of pointless achievement chasing,
and it's not actual achievement right at all. And Casey
is a product of that world, and she achieved kind
of every measure of conventional success, wound up at Stanford
(28:19):
Medical School as a surgeon, and decided that she had,
in the process of winning, had lost and had ignored
the things that really mattered, which are marriage and children.
And she had just said to me, I don't even
know if this was on air or off air, but
she said, you know, I really wish I hadn't done
any of this I wish I'd had kids, and I
was like, whoa, That's when I read a lot, because
(28:40):
of course, I so vehemently agree with that. Nothing I've
done in my life means anything compared to my children.
It doesn't even rate, it's not even on the scale.
So I really felt that, and I felt that she
had not just come to conclusions about you know, wheat
thins being bad for you, though they are despite being delicious.
She had come to deeper conclusions about what matters in life.
(29:02):
And I was wow, I was really moved by it.
I felt emotional in all of that interview, and I
felt that she was, you know, while a person and
therefore im perfect. Was this was a messenger.
Speaker 13 (29:12):
I thought, Well, and now she's pregnant, I know, and
then she's you know, nominated to work in the administration
right as she's giving birth.
Speaker 14 (29:18):
I know, which is crazy.
Speaker 15 (29:19):
And she's taken a raft of abuse, and you know,
I try to stay off social media and try not
to live digitally. You know, it's a battle, but and
I definitely try and stay away from all the fights
within MAHA, which are very intense and very bitter, and
I know everyone involved in I don't really understand some
of the issues.
Speaker 13 (29:40):
Well, basically, it's two camps. It's why aren't you solely
focused on vaccines?
Speaker 6 (29:45):
Yeah?
Speaker 13 (29:46):
And then others that are like, we can't solely focus
on only vaccines or nobody's going to listen to us.
We have to do the other stuff first and slowly
walk people into the vaccine conversation.
Speaker 15 (29:54):
I'm more on in the former camp. I feel emotional
on the subject, knowing a lot of people who've been
injured or killed by the VACT. I think it's completely evil,
and I'm shocked by the fact that it was just authorized.
The Madernovacs for kids was authorized, So I feel very
emotional about that, and I feel like that's almost like
a bi Amo moment when they do that. But I
don't want to fight with people of good faith who
agree with me, who disagree with me, rather because I
(30:17):
just don't want to do that. So I don't even
know where Casey is on that question. I don't want
to be involved in any of these fights. I've got
my views, I'm happy to say them out loud, but
I feel like almost every one I've met, of the
well known people in that movement is a good person.
You know, I just don't want to take sides in it,
and I think that, you know, I don't know if
(30:39):
she's tough enough on the vacs. I mean, I have
a zero tolerance view of that, Like no, I think
the people who make it s you go to prison.
I think their immunity should be stripped tomorrow by the
United States Congress. I think it's a deadly product. I
think the whole thing is evil.
Speaker 14 (30:49):
You're speaking of COVID specific I'm talking.
Speaker 15 (30:51):
About the COVID vacs. I'm talking with the mr Anda vacs.
I think it's evil. And I mean that not just
in a generic sense, but in a spiritual sense. I
think the fact that some vccines are made from aborted
baby fetuses, which they are, which I didn't even know
that was actually true, it actually is true. The whole
thing is so mind bogglingly evil that I can't deal
with it. Whatever side she's on, I think she's a
really good person with very important things to say. Maybe
(31:14):
not in the VAX I don't know, but certainly she
has important things to say about health, and certainly her
orientation toward life is so refreshing. It's so nice to
hear someone say, I won the prize and it's not
worth having because that is the most human possible experience.
Speaker 13 (31:30):
Did you make any major health changes after getting to
know Caseine?
Speaker 15 (31:33):
Now I probably should have. I mean, I quit drinking
in two thousand and two and drugs.
Speaker 13 (31:44):
So you're like, I made the biggest healthy decision of
all I'm never making another one again.
Speaker 14 (31:47):
Please.
Speaker 15 (31:48):
That was kind of man. It's like, no more cocaine,
no more beer, no more vodka. But by the way,
I do think that pizza is bad for you. Cookies
are a.
Speaker 13 (31:59):
Dark But President Trump, what's funny is he does everything
opposite of what Bobby Kennedy and Kelly means in case
he means say to do, and yet he's thriving.
Speaker 15 (32:08):
If people only knew, I mean, if you could see
the green room that is prepared for Trump before he
gives a speech, which I've seen a number of times, means,
it's unbelievable.
Speaker 14 (32:18):
What's in it?
Speaker 15 (32:19):
Oh, it's like a convenience store in the ghetto. You know,
it's like chips and candy. By the way, I'm not
being critical.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
I love that.
Speaker 15 (32:26):
Stuff well, of course, but it's like true food desert,
you know, and they're like telling you on TV it's
a food desert. All I have is Dorino's and Kitcats
and that's what'som.
Speaker 13 (32:35):
But here's what's weird is that he eats that way
and yet he also brags about how he only needs
three hours of sleep at night. And what I heard,
and I want you to say if you've heard these
same rumors and if they're even true, is allegedly he
thinks he has a special gene which allows him to
function after three hours, and he wants his brain studied
one day.
Speaker 15 (32:52):
I'm not going to comment on that, but yeah, I
think I think that's you're getting warmer, okay. I think
that he is an anomaly in a lot of ways,
and I don't understand it. I have a lot of
thoughts on that, which I'm not going to share. But
he's I've never seen anyone live like that and perform
like that. I'm not aware of him ever consuming water,
which is an element and the earth is covered with it.
(33:13):
Most people do consume it. I don't think that's on
the menu. I think it's only Die Coke, and I
mean that only Die COOKEE.
Speaker 14 (33:19):
So do you think he's serious about Maha?
Speaker 15 (33:21):
I think there are certain things that he's serious about.
I think that he's concerned that vaccines cause autism. He
said that, and then for a while he stopped saying it.
I guess he was told to stop saying that. But I,
as far as I know, he's concerned, I don't know
if we can say that conclusively. I certainly believe it.
Bobby Kennedy certainly believes it. He's commissioned to study of
(33:42):
the existing data. So we have these massive data sets, particularly,
I mean the US governance is the biggest data sets
of all, of course, from CMS, Medicare and Medicaid, and
he's commissioned to study of them to see if we
can detect some connection between the expansion vaccine schedule and
the rise of autism, both of which have been really dramatic.
(34:03):
So it seems not crazy that there'd be a connection.
It seems to fact very likely there would be connection.
I don't think we can say that there is a connection,
but I know that the president's concerned about that.
Speaker 13 (34:13):
When you and your wife first got married and you
were thinking about having kids, were you talking about, you know,
your hopes and dreams for your kids, where you like,
we're going to have conservative kids. This is like an
absolute you know, no brain or no exceptions.
Speaker 14 (34:27):
Was that important to you? Did it matter to you?
Speaker 15 (34:29):
Well, first of all, I got married. I just turned
twenty two. I didn't really want kids at all because
they totally screw up your sex life, and which they
do for a while. And my wife came to me
and said, I want to have kids, and I was like,
I knew that you can't get in the way of
the maternal instinct because it will just flatten you like
(34:51):
a truck on a highway. You know, at twenty two,
I've always had strong instinctive understandings of things, even though
the details sometimes escaped me. But I knew that I
didn't want to mess with that. So I said to her, look,
I don't want to have kids right now. We're having
an awesome time when you really mean it, because women
test you all the time. I want a puppy, really,
do you really?
Speaker 6 (35:08):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 15 (35:09):
And so I always say to my wife, how about
I will do whatever you want to do, but you
have to be serious. So when you really mean it,
come back to me and we'll do it. And so
she came back to me like a year later, and
she's like, it's time, and I said done. We had
children at twenty five, or first at twenty five, it
was a different country, that was nineteen ninety four. It
wasn't that political. I was always ideological. My wife is
(35:30):
not political at all. I never said anything about politics
to my children at dinner. We never talked about it.
Speaker 13 (35:36):
Never their whole life growing up. Ever, so when did
you talk politics with them?
Speaker 15 (35:39):
The only issue I ever said was we are pro life. Period.
We are pro life. We're the only Protestant Episcopalian pro
lifers like in the world. But I don't think that
you can kill people period. Especially didn't do anything wrong,
like just you knowledge you to do that.
Speaker 2 (35:53):
We are pro life.
Speaker 15 (35:54):
We are opposed to abortion. It's totally evil. You can
vote for someone who is for this, that or the
other thing, tax rates, communism, I don't care. We're not
for abortion, period. That's the only issue I ever mentioned.
Speaker 14 (36:06):
Why the only issue was because.
Speaker 15 (36:08):
Many issues matter. It's not the only issue that matters,
but it's the one from which all others flow. If
you acknowledge that there are some things you're not allowed
to do, however much you might like to do, then
there are all kinds of people. I've fantasized about killing
my whole life.
Speaker 14 (36:21):
All of us do same.
Speaker 15 (36:22):
The guy who cuts you off in traffic or whatever,
including an inconvenient baby you think is going to wreck
your life. I get it, But you're not allowed to
because you're not God. You don't get to kill people.
That's a decision you're not allowed to make. So if
you frame a kid from early age around the limits
of human behavior, we are not gods. We can make
all kinds of decisions, but some are reserved for God
(36:45):
and not for us, and the taking of human life
is the number one on that list. Then I think
you change a kid's orientation, and children in general don't
benefit from too many rules. They're like dogs. It's like
you can't teach a dog one hundred and fifty commands. Commands,
you know what I mean. You don' want to overwhelm
a child or a dog, So you have to figure
out what's really important. We'll start there. That's all we
(37:08):
ever talked about, but it was a different world.
Speaker 5 (37:14):
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but to organize. On these college campuses.
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(39:04):
we don't have like a theme song or a jingle
or theme music because it isn't always a TikTok Tuesday,
but today it is a TikTok Tuesday. Some of the
funnier videos from the Internet coming from our friendly libs
over on the TikTok website. This first one, you know,
especially now having had the Big Beautiful Bill pasted, is
(39:25):
so delicious and juicy. Watch this.
Speaker 4 (39:28):
So you're telling me that if the Big Beautiful Bill passes,
I will lose everything.
Speaker 2 (39:38):
I will lose the bottom surgery that I have been
on a wait list for for two years. I will
lose my.
Speaker 16 (39:44):
Testosterone, all gender affirming care.
Speaker 2 (39:49):
God just gone, and y'all are okay with that?
Speaker 1 (39:56):
Yes? Next question? Uh it really? This is both of
these clips today. One of my favorite parts of the
Charlie back and forth on college campuses is when they
make an argument so ridiculous and idiotic, he just says, okay,
like it's not really even worth arguing against somebody. Somebody
(40:16):
says the sky is green and it rains Lamas and bacon.
I don't know what, but if somebody says that there's
no point in arguing with that person because they're so crazy,
arguing with them is going to do it, then you
just say okay, and you trust the people to make
the idea, make it known that this is as ridiculous
(40:36):
as ridiculous gets. That's what this next clip is some
of you. I am guaranteed there are gonna be emails
written to the show. Why did you play that on
the show? Because I have enough faith in the American
people and people as a whole to know that this
person is a crazy person. The people to gather around
where this person is are crazy people, and we should
(40:57):
show the fact that how crazy people are because you
can show how far society can fall if we let it.
So highlight these people and don't let it happen. Watch this.
Speaker 16 (41:08):
My name is Candy vonn Sparkle, aka Christopher. My pronouns
are he, she, and they. Please join me responsibly in
a call to worship source of life in the beginning.
Speaker 15 (41:22):
You made us and call us.
Speaker 16 (41:25):
When we forget how to love, you remind us to
when the powers of the world try to oppress us.
Your name is when our siblings in faith condemn us,
we are.
Speaker 17 (41:45):
So today, She proses, Okay, there's really not much else
to say that.
Speaker 1 (41:55):
And if that you find that compelling, I God have
mercy on your soul. You know you could go down
The argument of this is this is clearly demons and
that's what is infecting so many of the people that
think that this is like an appropriate way to be
spiritual in any way, shape or form. But it's one
of those I don't even think we need to go
down that rabbit hole because just okay, if that's what
(42:16):
you think, there's there's no helping you unless you get
put into a mental facility. That's that I wish you
could all see Glenn's face. Producer Glenn while watching that,
that's his first time seeing it and he was aghast. Anyways,
that's going to do it for us here at turning
Point tonight. Charlie and Greg Guttfield are going to take
us out. We'll see tomorrow, same time, same place.
Speaker 18 (42:36):
God bless America.
Speaker 6 (42:51):
How about Greg Guttfeld? Everybody, you.
Speaker 19 (42:54):
Know, I expected more pyrotechnics, you.
Speaker 7 (42:59):
Know, as you see it downsizing, I want somebody to
lose a finger when I come out.
Speaker 6 (43:06):
We isn't Greg the best? I watch him almost every night.
Speaker 19 (43:10):
I'll tell you, stop it, stop it, you crazy kids.
Speaker 12 (43:17):
The I wonder if has anybody here ever seen Red Eye?
Speaker 6 (43:21):
Oh?
Speaker 12 (43:22):
I was just wondering how old you were, because that
was the first show it was.
Speaker 6 (43:26):
No hands went up around here. I know they're going,
that's the student sections, right U.
Speaker 12 (43:29):
Yeah, they're going, like, you mean the movie Red Eye?
Speaker 7 (43:32):
Or yeah, so so Greg. I know there's a lot
going on in the news. Obviously, the most important thing
that you want to talk about is the fact that
we no longer have to take our shoes off at
the airport when we fly. I'm playing, yeah, I mean
that that is the most important news of the week.
Speaker 19 (43:48):
Yes, I want to I like the fact that I
can keep my shoes on and take my pants off.
Speaker 12 (43:56):
No, it's crazy. Every day is good news.
Speaker 19 (43:59):
It's it's like three hundred and sixty five days of Christmas,
and once in a while you get something that's you're
not happy.
Speaker 12 (44:05):
About, but the whole package is amazing.
Speaker 19 (44:09):
It's like the election to Trump is like you, you know,
you wanted a beautiful you wanted your parents to buy
you a car for your sixteenth birthday, and you got
the car, but maybe it doesn't have it's not the
right color, you know, so you stop whining. This is
like the best thing that's ever happened to to our
political system.
Speaker 6 (44:28):
In Ages and.
Speaker 7 (44:30):
Greg, you made a really good point backstage, which is, look,
there's disagreements in our movement and people are fighting back
and forth, but you look at this as a positive
of an attribute of a.
Speaker 6 (44:39):
Movement that has strength.
Speaker 19 (44:41):
This is a this is a party. This is a
movement that is so transparent that even their cover ups
are transparent.
Speaker 12 (44:52):
They're not even trying. It's like everything that you've.
Speaker 19 (44:55):
Seen is one collective wink. It's like, dude, yeah, we
get it.
Speaker 6 (44:59):
You know.
Speaker 12 (45:00):
Epstein was probably a honeypot operation, but it's like a
CIA thing.
Speaker 19 (45:05):
You know, it sucks But what I the way I
look at it is that again with the Christmas analogy,
you got everything you wanted.
Speaker 12 (45:14):
You're not gonna get.
Speaker 19 (45:15):
Everything, but you're gonna get to see how it's made
and you know what's going on. You may not know
who's you know who's stopping that, But what's what's important
for you to know is right now, the Democrats, this is.
Speaker 12 (45:29):
All they have. All they have is.
Speaker 19 (45:31):
The conflict that's going on on the other side. So
they are like the eg will notice certain alignments happening
where all of a sudden, CNN is now covering Epstein
didn't do it before, and you see, you'll start seeing
these like liberal alignments because they want to they want
the fractions, They want people to break apart.
Speaker 12 (45:53):
You don't want to give them that. So even when
there's certain things that are happening that are upsetting.
Speaker 19 (45:57):
To you, you have to step back, look at the
big picture. Don't lose sight of the changes that you're experiencing,
and how together, Like I want to take I have
to take umbradge with Tucker Carlson, go ahead, all.
Speaker 12 (46:11):
Right, whom I love.
Speaker 19 (46:14):
When he said that the getting boys out of girls'
sports was an appetizer. Well, hell, I could eat appetizers
all day. I that, to me is a really big deal.
And you got to understand. I was talking about the
issue of transgenderism and boys and women's sports when people
(46:39):
weren't talking about it, and I was getting a lot
of crap for it.
Speaker 12 (46:42):
People kept asking me, why do you keep bringing this up?
Why do you keep bringing this up?
Speaker 19 (46:46):
And I say it because you compel me to I
don't want to think about this.
Speaker 12 (46:51):
This was never on my agenda.
Speaker 19 (46:53):
But the moment pronouns came out, I realized, Wait, you're
compelling me to think a certain way, and that's a
line you can't cross. You may think it's a side issue,
but the bigger issue is compelling you to obey.
Speaker 6 (47:10):
That was it.
Speaker 12 (47:11):
So the appetizer.
Speaker 19 (47:13):
You got to eat that appetizer to get to the
main course, or you can take all the appetizers and
make a main course. That to me was probably the
big issue for me, and it allows us to speak
freely about one of the biggest delusions, one of the
biggest hoaxes of our time, the idea that there are
trans kids that you need to operate on, which ten
(47:37):
years from now, twenty years ago from now, there will
be people that will be embarrassed to even admit.
Speaker 12 (47:43):
They believed it. They will act like it never happened.
Speaker 7 (47:46):
Well, and not only that, there are detransitioners here at
this event. I think Chloe Cole is here somewhere, and
it is It's not an insignificant portion of the population.
And by the way, it's your kind of analogy about
President Trump and the good he's doing his administration.
Speaker 6 (48:01):
Greg we need to make it a goal.
Speaker 7 (48:03):
Hopefully by the end of this administration, we are going
to end every gender affirming care clinic and child butchery
in this country.
Speaker 6 (48:10):
We're not going to allow it to happen.
Speaker 12 (48:12):
It's a you know, it's a.
Speaker 19 (48:15):
It's a good lesson that you're learning when you're young
is pay attention to language. Think about the phrase gender
affirming care. Nope, it sounds wonderful. You're affirming a gender.
That is your I guess that is your warning that
(48:37):
it's something awful. Whenever the language camouflages its actual meaning.
You cannot say irreversible surgery and put high risk hormones.
You say gender affirming affirming as the positive. They do
this with everything. Let's remember that, you know, abortion is
now pro choice because pro choice is an affirming phrase,
(49:00):
So you always have to look at that and see, okay,
what is underneath it.
Speaker 12 (49:05):
It's part of it's part of the I think, the.
Speaker 19 (49:07):
Education of your brain, learning to question the actual words
they use first and foremost.
Speaker 6 (49:14):
Yeah, and I mean there's so many other examples. I
mean that they'll use undocumented immigrants.
Speaker 19 (49:18):
I mean they will correct people on other networks if
you say illegal immigrants. Somebody tried to do that to
me on Fox once. I can't remember who they were aldo, but.
Speaker 12 (49:29):
Uh, it is like.
Speaker 19 (49:31):
Again, why so it's almost like they can't tackle the issue.
Speaker 12 (49:36):
So they dance on the edge of the issue.
Speaker 7 (49:38):
And yeah, they use virtue signaling, bullying over semantics.
Speaker 6 (49:42):
Yes, if you don't use.
Speaker 7 (49:43):
My word, therefore you're a bad person.
Speaker 1 (49:45):
Yes.
Speaker 6 (49:46):
And and by the way, the way that we should.
Speaker 7 (49:48):
Talk about gender affirming care, child castration, and medieval butchery.
Speaker 6 (49:53):
How's that for language changes.
The WNBA has new franchise expansions. Full team coverage coming
up next. Also, Scotus weighs in on whether President Trump
can fire a bunch of Department of Education employees, and
the Lives have a front runner for the twenty twenty
eighth presidential election. All that more coming up on this
episode of Turning Point Tonight. My name is Joe Bob.
(00:30):
Thanks so much for tuning in. Together, we are charting
the course of America's cultural comeback. This is Turning Point Tonight.
And before we get to that, in our fantastic panel,
we got to check in on the blue hairs in
Los Angeles. Last week, Mayor Karen Bass of LA said
that illegals who are scared of ice will now get
(00:51):
money for staying home from work because they don't want
to go to work because they're afraid that ice might
pick them up. So what are they gonna do. They're
gonna get free money at home. Reminds me of COVID
two point zero now. Mayor Karen Bass also went on
to say that, well, this money is not going to
come out of the city coffers, not going to be
from the city accounts. It's going to be from nonprofit
(01:14):
charity organizations. Okay, well that might be so. But the
charity organization that she picked, interestingly enough, where do they
get their money? The Coalition for Human Immigrant Rights of
Los Angeles. It's a long title. Is the key charity
that's going to be giving these illegals free money. And
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they got thirty four million dollars in twenty twenty three
from the California state taxpayers, among many other different grants.
In other words, no, this money is not coming from taxpayers.
It's coming from a nonprofit who got their money from taxpayers,
all for being afraid of ice. According to my comment
section I as well, she'd be very afraid of ice,
(01:59):
in which case, Karen Bass I'll send you my Venmo,
my Zell account. Please send me some money as soon
as possible. Here to comments on that and so much more.
As Turning Point contributor Anthony Watson and host of The
David Pollock Show, it's the man himself, David Pollack. Guys,
thanks for joining.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Me, thanks for having us on.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
So happy to be here, Anthony. I'll start with you
here this. I don't understand how libs can't read the
room here. The majority of Americans are like, yeah, get
the criminal illegals out of the country. And here they
are in Los Angeles saying, hey, if you're afraid to
go to work, we get it. Here's a credit card
with money on it that's effectively taxpayer money, so you
(02:38):
can stay home. What is going on there?
Speaker 3 (02:43):
Well, if anyone has any lack of common sense, which
the Left doesn't, it doesn't matter if the illegals are
at work, or if they're traveling in transit, or if
they're at home. If you are here illegally, Ice will
find a way to locate you, arrest you, and deport you.
So if you want to get extra money just to
stay at home and not be able to spend it
because it's just a matter of time before you're arrested
(03:04):
and deported again, then by all means, keep going for it.
But how many other crises do we have to have?
Remember all the money that they got for people with
monkey pocks when that was spreading around. Then when New York,
you know, the governor was like, if you guys get
your new booster shots, we're gonna give you free French fries.
And I'm just like, when money is running out and
all the things that keep going on is just another issue,
another thing, other things that keep popping up, you know,
(03:26):
for people that keep having the same issue happening with
no long term solution.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
That that reminds me of, Yeah, that build the Blasio
thing where he's eating the French fries, the world's tallest communists.
If you get this, this is the opportunity that you
will get if you get the Fauci Auci David the
La Times made the made the point that well, there's
no real coherent way that they've announced so far of
who is going to be able to get that money.
(03:53):
I myself, I don't live in Los Angeles, but I'm
also scared of ice, not the immigration enforced, know, the
frozen water. Do you think I qualify for that? How
can I go about getting some of that money?
Speaker 4 (04:07):
Listen, I think LA is onto something because it's increasingly
unsafe to be anywhere in La. So why don't we
just give people money to be safe from LA in general?
I mean, that's what we need to start looking at.
Forget just ice, it's ice, riots, it's feces, it's floods
and fire. I mean literally, you can't go out in
(04:28):
LA safely anymore. You can't even drive on the highway.
So I think we should just pay people to stay
home in la I think it's a brilliant strategy. I
think Mayor bass is onto something. Let's create so much
chaos that people just don't leave their house. It's probably
actually saves the taxpayer money to pay them to stay
at home, because if they leave, you know, then you
have to pay all the people to protest against them.
(04:48):
So I think they have to figure out exactly where
it's best to spend their money. Lock them in home,
feed them a bunch of propaganda, get them afraid of
the world outside so they keep voting Democrat as long as.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
They don't move here.
Speaker 4 (04:59):
Let's not pay them to move out of the state
of California. We've already funded the border wall and the
big beautiful bill. Now maybe we can pay to fund
a border wall along the state of California and sign
me up to help.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
I'll build it with my bare hands.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
Yeah. Maybe they'll have an anti stepping in poop dividend
for Los Angeles and San Francisco as California continues to
seep into chaos. Speaking of ice and immigration, the Trump
administration has put a new policy in place saying that
detainees will not be able to have bail and bonds
to get out anthony, you know, semi ish controversial, but
(05:35):
it kind of seems to make sense if the whole
thing is that, well, they're in the country I legally,
and you can't find them after they're not going to
show up for their court dates, it would make sense
that you don't want these people out on bail even
if they could post it, which who knows if they can,
especially in those no bail states where it gets kind
of wonky between the federal government and the states.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
But outside of all of that, what do you.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
Think about this new policy implemented by the administration.
Speaker 3 (05:59):
Well, anyone would common sense who has a heart for
humanity and doesn't want crime is going to be, I
am assuming, going to be standing up and applauding that
people who do bad things don't get to get out
there and do more bad things. How many more lake
and rileys do we need to have? How many more
incidents with illegals, you know, harming and praying on our
American citizens do we need to go through to actually
(06:20):
have it be taken seriously And the only people who
are affected by it. You know, are the nacho scalp
smelling blue haired, you know, septum piercings, you know, basement
dweller liberals that are out here that don't have any
clue of how the world world works, and then they
just want everything to be fair except for those who
oppose them. And every single time you see different things
like this happen, all of the things start falling apart.
(06:40):
All of the chips keep going back to the same
places where they were because none of these things are
doing anything because there's no consequence to it. And the
minute you add a consequence and actually have a strong
arm to uphold that is now when people have an issue,
and the saying is true, if you don't want to
do the time, don't do the crime.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
It's that simple, uh, David. One of the big conflations
that people make is well, well being in the United
States illegally isn't a crime. Then there's obviously the back
and forth between whether you entered in overstate of visa
is different than if you've hopped the border. This specifically,
this policy is if you entered the country illegally, again,
not over state visa's not over state travel time, which
(07:19):
is which is different. Why do you think the administration
made that delineation. Is that like a legal thing in
your mind or is it just hey, this is what
we can do right now and further note see further
nose what will end up happening with the people that
overstayed visas and that sort. I'm not sure if that
question makes sense, but I get it. I'm glad you
asked me.
Speaker 4 (07:37):
And I'm still getting over Anthony's Nacho scalp smelling, but anyway, yes,
I'm glad you asked me this question because this is
something we keep falling for on our side, because the
narrative has been we're deporting criminal illegal aliens, and so
they're like, what now they're rounding up people that aren't criminals,
(07:57):
And then our side says, well, if you entered the
kind try illegally or a criminal.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
It's actually really really simple.
Speaker 4 (08:04):
But the law requires, the law requires if you come
into the country illegally for you to be detained.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
That is the standard.
Speaker 4 (08:10):
It's an exception to release somebody instead of detention. The
only reason why we're doing it under the Biden administration
is because so many people were coming into the country illegally.
We didn't have a place to put them, so they
were kind of shipping them all over the place. A
lot of people thought maybe there was some funny business
going on with elections. But at the end of the day,
they are supposed to be detained by law. This whole
(08:30):
idea that they're supposed to be released down in the country.
I understand they're illegally. You can actually go to a
checkpoint and apply for legal entry and you can say
I'm seeking asylum. These people come into the country illegally,
get apprehended and say wait, no, no, no, I'm going to
claim a soulum like, okay, that's cool, but you're still
going to jail and well detention until we can figure
(08:51):
out if you actually have a valid asylum claim. And
what most people don't know is the majority of asylum
claims are invalid and they actually get sent back. And
so that's why these people are just appearing because they
know they're gonna get sent back anyway.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
So no, absolutely, why would you give them bail.
Speaker 4 (09:04):
They're going to be sent back and they know that,
so they're going to hide and commit crimes on American people.
This whole idea that they have to be criminals in
order to be detained is not consistent with the law,
and we need our side to be more consistent with
that and say.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
No, no, they don't have a right to just roam around.
They don't have a right to be in this country.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
What I to further echo your point? I don't know why.
The only argument that we have been making is, hey,
we're just following the law. Like if you're just gonna say, hey,
we're going to ignore federal some federal laws and follow
some of them. Might I suggest the IRS Tax Code
for a law that we should ignore, But then I
probably am speaking on the deaf ears on that one anthony. Yesterday,
(09:39):
the Supreme Court, in kind of a full transition here
said that President Trump can move forward with firing a
bunch of people from the Department of Education. The Department
of Education was founded in nineteen eighty. Since then, adjusted
for inflation, the cost has doubled. However, test scores have
also gotten worse. So you know, at least there's that
(09:59):
you think, how do you think this is going to
play out with President Trump kind of getting this new
sort of authority from the Supreme Court.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
Well, now that it's gone through the Supreme Court. There's
really no law in the land or any appeals court
that can actually stop it, which is great because we've
all been saying the same thing. It's just like we've
never had any issues with any of the departments that
we've had and that have been instituted as long as
they do right by the American people. The Department of
Education is is there and exists to make the young
people of America and educators people that equip and empower
(10:30):
people to actually better citizens for society. And now that
they failed by doing all of these transgenders, you know,
like the LGBTQ ideologies, now hiring teachers that are more
concerned with giving students their sexual orientation rather than social studies.
That's when you start having to clean house a little bit.
And the way I tell everybody else, it's just like
that's like if the United States a government was like
(10:51):
a gym, and like you have everybody who's leaving obese
or there's nobody that's actually gaining weight or muscle.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
You have to go in and actually start.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
Cleaning out some of the departments that are actually doing
more harm for the people that go in and come
out and then start rebranding and be rebuilding all over
again so that it actually has a benefit for the
people who are around it.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
Yeah, they use the term gutting. I like the term reform.
That seems like it has a better political advantage, David.
The Supreme Court paused in order from a US district
judge in Boston, saying that, well, you can't fire anybody.
The Supreme Court said you can. That judge then said
that the layoffs quote will likely cripple the department, which
(11:32):
I said, sweet, sounds great. Are you making the argument
for me your thoughts here? Yeah, I agree with you us.
Speaker 4 (11:39):
My first instinct is good the Department of Education, and
you know, we all said it, it's become the Department
of indoctrination.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
You're exactly right.
Speaker 4 (11:46):
We spend twice as much money on educating kids and
we get half as much of an education. And the
worst part about this is, and this is why I
don't understand why Republicans aren't better at the messaging. Republicans
are big advocates of school choice is part of the
Big Beautiful Bill. Most conservatives want to see charter school opportunities,
private schoo opportunities, and scholarships for kids who can't afford
(12:07):
to go to those places and more opportunities created. It's
a left who wants to lock people, especially from lower
ses communities who have less educational options, in failing public
schools so they can go and be threatened by violence
and get no education and no hope for an opportunity
in life. I don't understand why we're not stronger on
this messaging. You look at the Free State of Florida
where I live. We have school choice and they can't
(12:27):
keep up with the demand. Schools are growing, and this
is what needs to happen nationally. The Department of Education,
I think is one of the worst things to happen
the education in America. Our schools are failing, Our student
scores are lower than they've ever been, and the proof
is in the putting. And so if we want to
invest in the future, we have to start investing in
our kids. And I think really though, they know and
they want to make sure that the programming continues. So
(12:49):
people keep voting for people like Karen Bass in LA
because they think that that's what people want. So I
think that is their last front in the war against
our ideology.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
But I think we're gonna win it.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
Yeah, it's everything has gotten more expensive, but at least
also according to the Department Education, it's gotten worse. Hey,
Anthony and Dave will be back after the break to
discuss the new WNBA expansion teams, among other topics. And
we're also checking with Monica pagetren Points, White House Correspondent.
Don't go away, we'll be right back after the break.
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the White House thankfully still around after those brazen bags
were thrown over the gate, not just one, but multiple
(14:16):
can you tell us about what went down at the
White House today.
Speaker 9 (14:20):
Yeah, Joe Bob, it was quite an interesting morning.
Speaker 10 (14:22):
I was actually working at a local coffee shop because
it is very hot here at.
Speaker 9 (14:26):
The White House, it's very swampy.
Speaker 10 (14:27):
I want to make sure I can focus in a
climate controlled environment. So I was actually in a coffee
shop where I get a text message from some of
my colleagues saying that the Secret Service agents and police
were kind of rushing people into the press briefing room
without any warning, not told what's going on. So all
the reporters here on the North Lawn kind of piled
into the briefing room. The Secret Service agents seemed kind
(14:49):
of not frazzled, but definitely there was a sense of
urgency what they kind of waited around for about twenty
minutes or so. Once they got the text message that
something was happening. I kind of meandered over here where
I talked Secret Service police and they told me and
confirmed that there was a bag thrown over the North
Lawn fence right here outside the White House. Apparently it
hit a tree before it fell to the ground, and
(15:09):
the police were investigating what's in the bag, you know,
just the contents of what spilled out onto the ground.
And apparently this is the second time within twenty four
hours that something like this had happened. The night before,
just last night, they were dealing with another situation, different person, different.
Speaker 9 (15:25):
Kind of bag. I think they suspect.
Speaker 10 (15:27):
But someone's trying to throw bags over the north lawn
onto the ground here. But an investigation concluded after about
thirty minutes or so that it is not a threat,
nobody's hurt, everybody safe, and business is continuing on as
usual here, Joe Bob.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
So what I'm hearing is that you were not there
when the bag was being thrown. Therefore you and the
bag throw are not being seen the same place at
the same time. Suspicious Monica. Of course, do not.
Speaker 10 (15:52):
Put me on a watch list here, Joe Bob. But
I will say this is what happens. I don't want
to say this is what happens, but this is what
happens when you just let kind of anybody on the
north not on the north lawn, but kind of in
this park driveway area where you could just come right
up to the fence. There have been times where babies
have come through the fence here and land on the
North Lawn and Secret Service police have to actually physically
(16:13):
go out and carry them back through security out into
the open public. Again, like, this is very much a
real threat every day, and I'm kind of surprised that
things like this don't happen more often. Honestly, I mean,
I hate to say that, but when you're dealing with
such polarizing times, you never know what you're gonna get.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
It's that strange balance between you have to keep everything
secure because you can't have anything going haywire, and it's
also the people's house, so there's kind of that tug
and pull there that is really really difficult to kind
of thread that needle. But again, glad everything is safe.
Hope there's no greater concern. But the President left the
White House today for Pittsburgh. What's going on there?
Speaker 10 (16:52):
Yeah, we were thinking that maybe the departure was going
to get canceled due to this supposed thread or you know,
of really any more information regarding this, but everything carried
on as usual. The President did leave off the South
Lawn via Marine one, so everything was good there. He's
heading to Pittsburgh today where he's meeting with Republican senator
Dave McCormick, and they're announcing this massive investment push into
(17:15):
the city of Pittsburgh, once known as the Steel City,
still is known as the Steel City, but it was
once very much more prominently known as that and creating steel,
but now it might be a hub for artificial intelligence infrastructure.
You have dozens of major companies like Amazon, Blackstone, Google, Meta,
all donating millions of dollars to this new push that
will essentially bolster the AI industry, create more jobs, really
(17:39):
take over the steel factories and make them into power
hubs and data centers to directly compete with China actually,
because we're in kind of like this economic tug of
war here, especially when it comes.
Speaker 9 (17:50):
To infrastructure and artificial intelligence.
Speaker 10 (17:52):
So this is really going to be huge for the
Keystone State, especially given that it's also the state of
Pennsylvania that's major in the elections and upcoming midterms.
Speaker 9 (18:01):
So this is a huge move for the president and
this administration.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
You know, we were in Pittsburgh not all that long ago,
and holy cow, was that a cool city. It's been
sad to see kind of the manufacturing industry go away.
But if they can revitalize that place, I love Pittsburgh
in so many different ways. Hopefully that's what's coming. Monica Page,
Turning Points, White House Correspondent, thank you so much for
joining us. Really appreciate taking the time.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
Thanks so much, Joe Bob, thank.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
You all right. Great hearing from Monica Page Treny Points,
White House Correspondent. We love hearing from every single day.
Let's bring back our panel. Anthony Watson and David Pollock. Guys,
the WNBA has announced two new expansion teams, the Portland
Fire and the Toronto Tempo. Anthony, your thoughts, David the
(18:46):
w what In other news the Democrats the Libs have
a front runner in their new election for the twenty
twenty eighth cycle. I'm sorry I couldn't keep it together
after the wnbaight thing. The Libs polling wise, have a
front runner and that front runner is none other than
former DEI Higher Vice President Kamala Harris leading the pack
(19:10):
by a ton, with Pete Buddhajees coming in eleven percent
and Gaven newsmen coming in at ten percent. Uh, Anthony,
who do you think the Libs are going to turn
to ultimately? Because everybody knows at the start of all
of these twenty twenty eight elections. We're still three and
a half years away from that. The the most recognizable
(19:30):
name generally comes to the top of the polling. And
who do you think is ultimately going to come out
ahead on this? According to all the Libs.
Speaker 3 (19:38):
Well in the wise words of my nationality confused former
Vice President Kamala Harris, who was also my jamake the.
Speaker 11 (19:47):
Ammon, may not understand what in all these things it's messy,
may not understand a thing, may not get gna piece,
and nothing happening from all the things happening on the
politics in America.
Speaker 10 (19:58):
You know, you know Abby said.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
But anyway, all of that to say, all of these
things are just misguided tendencies because everybody else that has
common sense sees what. Everybody who had the option and
the ability to actually be in a position to do
better for the American people didn't do a thing. And
it was four years of blaming everybody else before them
when they did absolutely nothing. And if you guys don't remember,
remember when former Vice President Harris went to Puerto Rico
(20:23):
and she's dancing to a song from Puerto Ricans asking
her what the heck she's doing in their island. Make
that make sense.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
For the record, Anthony is also of Jamaican descent and
therefore can get away with doing that accent. I'm sure
some of us might feel a little bit scared there,
but yeah, no, very funny. I appreciate the artism, the
artistic expression there, David. I'm surprised that Governor Gavin Newsom,
(20:55):
dictator of California, is so low on that, considering all
the media attention that he's gotten over the last month.
I think he's probably thinking I should be surging here.
Why is it that he's not higher than where he is?
Speaker 4 (21:09):
I see, I was going to answer in Patoa, but
you asked me about Gavin Newsom, so I'm gonna speak
just the normal English.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
Look.
Speaker 4 (21:18):
Gavin Newsom is not very popular in California. He even
had a recall there. I think he just comes off
as slimy and gross. And I'm gonna actually tell you
something else. Gavin Newsom is not liberal enough for the
liberals anymore. And that's the reality. Even as crazy as
he is and as left wings he tries to be,
Gavin Newsom is the Nancy Pelosi lineage.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
He's not the radical left.
Speaker 4 (21:40):
And so he's not even This is where the Democrat
Party is lives now. They want Bernie Sanders in AOC,
they want Elon Omar, they don't want Gavin Newsom. Gavin
Newsom is gonna end up like RFK Junior after this election.
He's gonna come begging Trump to allow him to join
the administration. He's gonna go to Jade Vance and be
like President Vance, can I please just join your administration
to do something politically relevant again, because he's not far
(22:01):
left radical enough.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
Listen, I'm all on board.
Speaker 4 (22:04):
Put Kamala up there, put them all there, because we'll
just easily win, just like we did with Hillary Clinton.
I don't want to see Gavin news And be honest
with you, I think he's more of a threat to
our move, you know, to the next election, than Kamala
Harris would, because he's slick and you know, he looks
good on camera and he says the right things, and yes,
please put up a socialist instead.
Speaker 12 (22:23):
Please.
Speaker 6 (22:23):
Yeah, I'm all.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
About to Mcgovala Harris lose again. I think that would
just be so funny and so delicious. But you mentioned
RFK and I thought this is interesting. I don't know
entirely how immediately relevant it is, but it is interesting
to see things going in this direction. The FDA approved
a new blue food dye made from natural sources, Anthony.
This is the fourth new food die, not chemically or
(22:48):
petroleum based, that the FDA has approved. And my question
is where has this been the entire time? Why wasn't
this kind of at the forefront of food manufacturers for
the last twenty years, and why is it just happening now,
despite the fact that we're all happy that it's at
least happening now.
Speaker 3 (23:06):
Well, I tell everybody else all the advancements in technology
where we have watches, rings, jewelry that can literally track
your body temperature, your sleep cycle, and everything else, and
you can honestly tell me that we haven't in all
of this time found a way to actually create something
that isn't going to harm us to now propped up
and promote you know, institutions like Big Pharma that create
these kinds of things to keep people sick because it's
(23:29):
a constant hamster will of supply and demand for that's
just an endless money trail. But you know, with all
of these different dyes that are coming in and coming out,
there's still going to be. Sadly, a large group of
people that for cost effectiveness will still go and eat
that kind of things. And for profitability, there's going to
be a lot of other people that are still going to,
you know, not take their health as seriously. But in
(23:49):
the name of blue in this case, I'm blue auba
daba die? What can I say?
Speaker 1 (23:55):
Yeah? You know, I wonder if those blue hairs are
going to use the new fifty it proved dye to
color their hair in the way that they do. Uh, David,
your thoughts here? I guess my biggest and asked to
Anthony as well.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
Why wasn't this a thing?
Speaker 1 (24:11):
Why did it take the Maha movement for this to
become a thing? Why isn't it that food processors don't
have the best interest of their people that buy their
food in mind?
Speaker 4 (24:22):
Well, look, before I answer, standing objection to letting Anthony
Watson go first, because he says all the great lines
he's come on, it's not fair. Look, I think about
this all the time, Like you know, we've been more
health RFK woke me up right, and so I've been
walking around the aisles and then our family we have
autoimmune issues and so we've been more conscious of what
we bring in our homes. And you know, everything's branded
(24:43):
like healthy things, and you look at it, and then
you start to looking at greet So I'm like, wait
a second, This quote unquote healthy thing has all these
seed oils in it and has all these dyes and
ingredients that I can pronounce and preserves, and we're being
told it's healthy food.
Speaker 2 (24:55):
And then just like you said, you find out that we.
Speaker 4 (24:57):
Don't even have to use these ingredients and e're a
in other places where they ban these sort of dies
and ingredients, they're able to make the same products just
without the poison in it. So yeah, how does the
United States of all places? And look growing up, I
would look at the FDA and be like, oh cool,
our food secure. You think about going to Mexico and
you can't drink the ice, You're gonna get sick, right,
But it's the United States with the FDA that's actually
allowing people to make you sick.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
You have to go to Mexico to drink. We think
about this. We buy the.
Speaker 4 (25:21):
Mexican soda in the United States because it as real
sugar instead of corn syrup, and we have a federal
organization that is where you expect to protect us from this,
that are allowing these companies to cheapen up our food
in order to maximize profitability the expense of the American
health and of course that costs all of us more
money in our healthcare system. And I'm glad RFK is
shining a spotlight on this. We do need to make
(25:42):
America healthy again. Americans deserve to have quality ingredients in
their food and not be poisoned just because the FDA
says so.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
Amen. Yeah, it's crazy that we were buying, even at
any level, a healthier version from Mexico, which is crazy
to me. Anthony Watson and David Pollock, Thanks than you
guys so much for joining. Really appreciate you taking the time.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
Thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
Coming up next year on Turning Point Tonight, Tucker Carlson
is on with Alex Clark and the Culture Apothecary podcast.
Clip from that right after this don't go away. We'll
be back after the break.
Speaker 5 (26:19):
Got to admire what you've been able to do, not
to weaponize, but to organize on these college campuses.
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Speaker 13 (26:52):
When you dropped the interview with Calli and Casey Means,
I was like, oh, thank god, because if he's not
gonna listen to because I'm his daughter, so it's like,
he's not going to listen to me.
Speaker 14 (27:00):
I thought he's going to listen to you, like.
Speaker 13 (27:03):
If I say, well, Tucker Carlson's talking about this. So
I sent that episode and you know it was just
too late. But did you have a feeling in the
moment of the ripple effect that that episode was going
to Yeah.
Speaker 15 (27:13):
Yeah, I did. I've done you know, many thousands of
interviews over thirty five years, and occasionally, once or twice
a year you feel like, wow, this is really just
one of those moments like you have in life, you know,
with your wife or at dinner with your friends, there's
like some moment that you're just like, oh, this is unusual.
There's something else in the room with us. And I
(27:33):
felt that way very much. And actually a lot of
what I felt had nothing to do with with physical health.
It had to do with Casey means, his attitudes toward life.
Here's this woman who grew up in the neighborhood that
I lived in. I mean, they grew up like two
blocks from me in Northwest Washington, DC. I know the
world that they're from intimately, and it's very much a
merit badge type world. You know, like people's children are
(27:56):
measured by the schools they get into, the dumb jobs
they have at stupid companies. White kid works at Mackenzie
US at HBS and all this sort of pointless achievement chasing,
and it's not actual achievement right at all. And Casey
is a product of that world, and she achieved kind
of every measure of conventional success, wound up at Stanford
(28:19):
Medical School as a surgeon, and decided that she had,
in the process of winning, had lost and had ignored
the things that really mattered, which are marriage and children.
And she had just said to me, I don't even
know if this was on air or off air, but
she said, you know, I really wish I hadn't done
any of this I wish I'd had kids, and I
was like, whoa, That's when I read a lot, because
(28:40):
of course, I so vehemently agree with that. Nothing I've
done in my life means anything compared to my children.
It doesn't even rate, it's not even on the scale.
So I really felt that, and I felt that she
had not just come to conclusions about you know, wheat
thins being bad for you, though they are despite being delicious.
She had come to deeper conclusions about what matters in life.
(29:02):
And I was wow, I was really moved by it.
I felt emotional in all of that interview, and I
felt that she was, you know, while a person and
therefore im perfect. Was this was a messenger.
Speaker 13 (29:12):
I thought, Well, and now she's pregnant, I know, and
then she's you know, nominated to work in the administration
right as she's giving birth.
Speaker 14 (29:18):
I know, which is crazy.
Speaker 15 (29:19):
And she's taken a raft of abuse, and you know,
I try to stay off social media and try not
to live digitally. You know, it's a battle, but and
I definitely try and stay away from all the fights
within MAHA, which are very intense and very bitter, and
I know everyone involved in I don't really understand some
of the issues.
Speaker 13 (29:40):
Well, basically, it's two camps. It's why aren't you solely
focused on vaccines?
Speaker 6 (29:45):
Yeah?
Speaker 13 (29:46):
And then others that are like, we can't solely focus
on only vaccines or nobody's going to listen to us.
We have to do the other stuff first and slowly
walk people into the vaccine conversation.
Speaker 15 (29:54):
I'm more on in the former camp. I feel emotional
on the subject, knowing a lot of people who've been
injured or killed by the VACT. I think it's completely evil,
and I'm shocked by the fact that it was just authorized.
The Madernovacs for kids was authorized, So I feel very
emotional about that, and I feel like that's almost like
a bi Amo moment when they do that. But I
don't want to fight with people of good faith who
agree with me, who disagree with me, rather because I
(30:17):
just don't want to do that. So I don't even
know where Casey is on that question. I don't want
to be involved in any of these fights. I've got
my views, I'm happy to say them out loud, but
I feel like almost every one I've met, of the
well known people in that movement is a good person.
You know, I just don't want to take sides in it,
and I think that, you know, I don't know if
(30:39):
she's tough enough on the vacs. I mean, I have
a zero tolerance view of that, Like no, I think
the people who make it s you go to prison.
I think their immunity should be stripped tomorrow by the
United States Congress. I think it's a deadly product. I
think the whole thing is evil.
Speaker 14 (30:49):
You're speaking of COVID specific I'm talking.
Speaker 15 (30:51):
About the COVID vacs. I'm talking with the mr Anda vacs.
I think it's evil. And I mean that not just
in a generic sense, but in a spiritual sense. I
think the fact that some vccines are made from aborted
baby fetuses, which they are, which I didn't even know
that was actually true, it actually is true. The whole
thing is so mind bogglingly evil that I can't deal
with it. Whatever side she's on, I think she's a
really good person with very important things to say. Maybe
(31:14):
not in the VAX I don't know, but certainly she
has important things to say about health, and certainly her
orientation toward life is so refreshing. It's so nice to
hear someone say, I won the prize and it's not
worth having because that is the most human possible experience.
Speaker 13 (31:30):
Did you make any major health changes after getting to
know Caseine?
Speaker 15 (31:33):
Now I probably should have. I mean, I quit drinking
in two thousand and two and drugs.
Speaker 13 (31:44):
So you're like, I made the biggest healthy decision of
all I'm never making another one again.
Speaker 14 (31:47):
Please.
Speaker 15 (31:48):
That was kind of man. It's like, no more cocaine,
no more beer, no more vodka. But by the way,
I do think that pizza is bad for you. Cookies
are a.
Speaker 13 (31:59):
Dark But President Trump, what's funny is he does everything
opposite of what Bobby Kennedy and Kelly means in case
he means say to do, and yet he's thriving.
Speaker 15 (32:08):
If people only knew, I mean, if you could see
the green room that is prepared for Trump before he
gives a speech, which I've seen a number of times, means,
it's unbelievable.
Speaker 14 (32:18):
What's in it?
Speaker 15 (32:19):
Oh, it's like a convenience store in the ghetto. You know,
it's like chips and candy. By the way, I'm not
being critical.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
I love that.
Speaker 15 (32:26):
Stuff well, of course, but it's like true food desert,
you know, and they're like telling you on TV it's
a food desert. All I have is Dorino's and Kitcats
and that's what'som.
Speaker 13 (32:35):
But here's what's weird is that he eats that way
and yet he also brags about how he only needs
three hours of sleep at night. And what I heard,
and I want you to say if you've heard these
same rumors and if they're even true, is allegedly he
thinks he has a special gene which allows him to
function after three hours, and he wants his brain studied
one day.
Speaker 15 (32:52):
I'm not going to comment on that, but yeah, I
think I think that's you're getting warmer, okay. I think
that he is an anomaly in a lot of ways,
and I don't understand it. I have a lot of
thoughts on that, which I'm not going to share. But
he's I've never seen anyone live like that and perform
like that. I'm not aware of him ever consuming water,
which is an element and the earth is covered with it.
(33:13):
Most people do consume it. I don't think that's on
the menu. I think it's only Die Coke, and I
mean that only Die COOKEE.
Speaker 14 (33:19):
So do you think he's serious about Maha?
Speaker 15 (33:21):
I think there are certain things that he's serious about.
I think that he's concerned that vaccines cause autism. He
said that, and then for a while he stopped saying it.
I guess he was told to stop saying that. But I,
as far as I know, he's concerned, I don't know
if we can say that conclusively. I certainly believe it.
Bobby Kennedy certainly believes it. He's commissioned to study of
(33:42):
the existing data. So we have these massive data sets, particularly,
I mean the US governance is the biggest data sets
of all, of course, from CMS, Medicare and Medicaid, and
he's commissioned to study of them to see if we
can detect some connection between the expansion vaccine schedule and
the rise of autism, both of which have been really dramatic.
(34:03):
So it seems not crazy that there'd be a connection.
It seems to fact very likely there would be connection.
I don't think we can say that there is a connection,
but I know that the president's concerned about that.
Speaker 13 (34:13):
When you and your wife first got married and you
were thinking about having kids, were you talking about, you know,
your hopes and dreams for your kids, where you like,
we're going to have conservative kids. This is like an
absolute you know, no brain or no exceptions.
Speaker 14 (34:27):
Was that important to you? Did it matter to you?
Speaker 15 (34:29):
Well, first of all, I got married. I just turned
twenty two. I didn't really want kids at all because
they totally screw up your sex life, and which they
do for a while. And my wife came to me
and said, I want to have kids, and I was like,
I knew that you can't get in the way of
the maternal instinct because it will just flatten you like
(34:51):
a truck on a highway. You know, at twenty two,
I've always had strong instinctive understandings of things, even though
the details sometimes escaped me. But I knew that I
didn't want to mess with that. So I said to her, look,
I don't want to have kids right now. We're having
an awesome time when you really mean it, because women
test you all the time. I want a puppy, really,
do you really?
Speaker 6 (35:08):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 15 (35:09):
And so I always say to my wife, how about
I will do whatever you want to do, but you
have to be serious. So when you really mean it,
come back to me and we'll do it. And so
she came back to me like a year later, and
she's like, it's time, and I said done. We had
children at twenty five, or first at twenty five, it
was a different country, that was nineteen ninety four. It
wasn't that political. I was always ideological. My wife is
(35:30):
not political at all. I never said anything about politics
to my children at dinner. We never talked about it.
Speaker 13 (35:36):
Never their whole life growing up. Ever, so when did
you talk politics with them?
Speaker 15 (35:39):
The only issue I ever said was we are pro life. Period.
We are pro life. We're the only Protestant Episcopalian pro
lifers like in the world. But I don't think that
you can kill people period. Especially didn't do anything wrong,
like just you knowledge you to do that.
Speaker 2 (35:53):
We are pro life.
Speaker 15 (35:54):
We are opposed to abortion. It's totally evil. You can
vote for someone who is for this, that or the
other thing, tax rates, communism, I don't care. We're not
for abortion, period. That's the only issue I ever mentioned.
Speaker 14 (36:06):
Why the only issue was because.
Speaker 15 (36:08):
Many issues matter. It's not the only issue that matters,
but it's the one from which all others flow. If
you acknowledge that there are some things you're not allowed
to do, however much you might like to do, then
there are all kinds of people. I've fantasized about killing
my whole life.
Speaker 14 (36:21):
All of us do same.
Speaker 15 (36:22):
The guy who cuts you off in traffic or whatever,
including an inconvenient baby you think is going to wreck
your life. I get it, But you're not allowed to
because you're not God. You don't get to kill people.
That's a decision you're not allowed to make. So if
you frame a kid from early age around the limits
of human behavior, we are not gods. We can make
all kinds of decisions, but some are reserved for God
(36:45):
and not for us, and the taking of human life
is the number one on that list. Then I think
you change a kid's orientation, and children in general don't
benefit from too many rules. They're like dogs. It's like
you can't teach a dog one hundred and fifty commands. Commands,
you know what I mean. You don' want to overwhelm
a child or a dog, So you have to figure
out what's really important. We'll start there. That's all we
(37:08):
ever talked about, but it was a different world.
Speaker 5 (37:14):
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but to organize. On these college campuses.
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we don't have like a theme song or a jingle
or theme music because it isn't always a TikTok Tuesday,
but today it is a TikTok Tuesday. Some of the
funnier videos from the Internet coming from our friendly libs
over on the TikTok website. This first one, you know,
especially now having had the Big Beautiful Bill pasted, is
(39:25):
so delicious and juicy. Watch this.
Speaker 4 (39:28):
So you're telling me that if the Big Beautiful Bill passes,
I will lose everything.
Speaker 2 (39:38):
I will lose the bottom surgery that I have been
on a wait list for for two years. I will
lose my.
Speaker 16 (39:44):
Testosterone, all gender affirming care.
Speaker 2 (39:49):
God just gone, and y'all are okay with that?
Speaker 1 (39:56):
Yes? Next question? Uh it really? This is both of
these clips today. One of my favorite parts of the
Charlie back and forth on college campuses is when they
make an argument so ridiculous and idiotic, he just says, okay,
like it's not really even worth arguing against somebody. Somebody
(40:16):
says the sky is green and it rains Lamas and bacon.
I don't know what, but if somebody says that there's
no point in arguing with that person because they're so crazy,
arguing with them is going to do it, then you
just say okay, and you trust the people to make
the idea, make it known that this is as ridiculous
(40:36):
as ridiculous gets. That's what this next clip is some
of you. I am guaranteed there are gonna be emails
written to the show. Why did you play that on
the show? Because I have enough faith in the American
people and people as a whole to know that this
person is a crazy person. The people to gather around
where this person is are crazy people, and we should
(40:57):
show the fact that how crazy people are because you
can show how far society can fall if we let it.
So highlight these people and don't let it happen. Watch this.
Speaker 16 (41:08):
My name is Candy vonn Sparkle, aka Christopher. My pronouns
are he, she, and they. Please join me responsibly in
a call to worship source of life in the beginning.
Speaker 15 (41:22):
You made us and call us.
Speaker 16 (41:25):
When we forget how to love, you remind us to
when the powers of the world try to oppress us.
Your name is when our siblings in faith condemn us,
we are.
Speaker 17 (41:45):
So today, She proses, Okay, there's really not much else
to say that.
Speaker 1 (41:55):
And if that you find that compelling, I God have
mercy on your soul. You know you could go down
The argument of this is this is clearly demons and
that's what is infecting so many of the people that
think that this is like an appropriate way to be
spiritual in any way, shape or form. But it's one
of those I don't even think we need to go
down that rabbit hole because just okay, if that's what
(42:16):
you think, there's there's no helping you unless you get
put into a mental facility. That's that I wish you
could all see Glenn's face. Producer Glenn while watching that,
that's his first time seeing it and he was aghast. Anyways,
that's going to do it for us here at turning
Point tonight. Charlie and Greg Guttfield are going to take
us out. We'll see tomorrow, same time, same place.
Speaker 18 (42:36):
God bless America.
Speaker 6 (42:51):
How about Greg Guttfeld? Everybody, you.
Speaker 19 (42:54):
Know, I expected more pyrotechnics, you.
Speaker 7 (42:59):
Know, as you see it downsizing, I want somebody to
lose a finger when I come out.
Speaker 6 (43:06):
We isn't Greg the best? I watch him almost every night.
Speaker 19 (43:10):
I'll tell you, stop it, stop it, you crazy kids.
Speaker 12 (43:17):
The I wonder if has anybody here ever seen Red Eye?
Speaker 6 (43:21):
Oh?
Speaker 12 (43:22):
I was just wondering how old you were, because that
was the first show it was.
Speaker 6 (43:26):
No hands went up around here. I know they're going,
that's the student sections, right U.
Speaker 12 (43:29):
Yeah, they're going, like, you mean the movie Red Eye?
Speaker 7 (43:32):
Or yeah, so so Greg. I know there's a lot
going on in the news. Obviously, the most important thing
that you want to talk about is the fact that
we no longer have to take our shoes off at
the airport when we fly. I'm playing, yeah, I mean
that that is the most important news of the week.
Speaker 19 (43:48):
Yes, I want to I like the fact that I
can keep my shoes on and take my pants off.
Speaker 12 (43:56):
No, it's crazy. Every day is good news.
Speaker 19 (43:59):
It's it's like three hundred and sixty five days of Christmas,
and once in a while you get something that's you're
not happy.
Speaker 12 (44:05):
About, but the whole package is amazing.
Speaker 19 (44:09):
It's like the election to Trump is like you, you know,
you wanted a beautiful you wanted your parents to buy
you a car for your sixteenth birthday, and you got
the car, but maybe it doesn't have it's not the
right color, you know, so you stop whining. This is
like the best thing that's ever happened to to our
political system.
Speaker 6 (44:28):
In Ages and.
Speaker 7 (44:30):
Greg, you made a really good point backstage, which is, look,
there's disagreements in our movement and people are fighting back
and forth, but you look at this as a positive
of an attribute of a.
Speaker 6 (44:39):
Movement that has strength.
Speaker 19 (44:41):
This is a this is a party. This is a
movement that is so transparent that even their cover ups
are transparent.
Speaker 12 (44:52):
They're not even trying. It's like everything that you've.
Speaker 19 (44:55):
Seen is one collective wink. It's like, dude, yeah, we
get it.
Speaker 6 (44:59):
You know.
Speaker 12 (45:00):
Epstein was probably a honeypot operation, but it's like a
CIA thing.
Speaker 19 (45:05):
You know, it sucks But what I the way I
look at it is that again with the Christmas analogy,
you got everything you wanted.
Speaker 12 (45:14):
You're not gonna get.
Speaker 19 (45:15):
Everything, but you're gonna get to see how it's made
and you know what's going on. You may not know
who's you know who's stopping that, But what's what's important
for you to know is right now, the Democrats, this is.
Speaker 12 (45:29):
All they have. All they have is.
Speaker 19 (45:31):
The conflict that's going on on the other side. So
they are like the eg will notice certain alignments happening
where all of a sudden, CNN is now covering Epstein
didn't do it before, and you see, you'll start seeing
these like liberal alignments because they want to they want
the fractions, They want people to break apart.
Speaker 12 (45:53):
You don't want to give them that. So even when
there's certain things that are happening that are upsetting.
Speaker 19 (45:57):
To you, you have to step back, look at the
big picture. Don't lose sight of the changes that you're experiencing,
and how together, Like I want to take I have
to take umbradge with Tucker Carlson, go ahead, all.
Speaker 12 (46:11):
Right, whom I love.
Speaker 19 (46:14):
When he said that the getting boys out of girls'
sports was an appetizer. Well, hell, I could eat appetizers
all day. I that, to me is a really big deal.
And you got to understand. I was talking about the
issue of transgenderism and boys and women's sports when people
(46:39):
weren't talking about it, and I was getting a lot
of crap for it.
Speaker 12 (46:42):
People kept asking me, why do you keep bringing this up?
Why do you keep bringing this up?
Speaker 19 (46:46):
And I say it because you compel me to I
don't want to think about this.
Speaker 12 (46:51):
This was never on my agenda.
Speaker 19 (46:53):
But the moment pronouns came out, I realized, Wait, you're
compelling me to think a certain way, and that's a
line you can't cross. You may think it's a side issue,
but the bigger issue is compelling you to obey.
Speaker 6 (47:10):
That was it.
Speaker 12 (47:11):
So the appetizer.
Speaker 19 (47:13):
You got to eat that appetizer to get to the
main course, or you can take all the appetizers and
make a main course. That to me was probably the
big issue for me, and it allows us to speak
freely about one of the biggest delusions, one of the
biggest hoaxes of our time, the idea that there are
trans kids that you need to operate on, which ten
(47:37):
years from now, twenty years ago from now, there will
be people that will be embarrassed to even admit.
Speaker 12 (47:43):
They believed it. They will act like it never happened.
Speaker 7 (47:46):
Well, and not only that, there are detransitioners here at
this event. I think Chloe Cole is here somewhere, and
it is It's not an insignificant portion of the population.
And by the way, it's your kind of analogy about
President Trump and the good he's doing his administration.
Speaker 6 (48:01):
Greg we need to make it a goal.
Speaker 7 (48:03):
Hopefully by the end of this administration, we are going
to end every gender affirming care clinic and child butchery
in this country.
Speaker 6 (48:10):
We're not going to allow it to happen.
Speaker 12 (48:12):
It's a you know, it's a.
Speaker 19 (48:15):
It's a good lesson that you're learning when you're young
is pay attention to language. Think about the phrase gender
affirming care. Nope, it sounds wonderful. You're affirming a gender.
That is your I guess that is your warning that
(48:37):
it's something awful. Whenever the language camouflages its actual meaning.
You cannot say irreversible surgery and put high risk hormones.
You say gender affirming affirming as the positive. They do
this with everything. Let's remember that, you know, abortion is
now pro choice because pro choice is an affirming phrase,
(49:00):
So you always have to look at that and see, okay,
what is underneath it.
Speaker 12 (49:05):
It's part of it's part of the I think, the.
Speaker 19 (49:07):
Education of your brain, learning to question the actual words
they use first and foremost.
Speaker 6 (49:14):
Yeah, and I mean there's so many other examples. I
mean that they'll use undocumented immigrants.
Speaker 19 (49:18):
I mean they will correct people on other networks if
you say illegal immigrants. Somebody tried to do that to
me on Fox once. I can't remember who they were aldo, but.
Speaker 12 (49:29):
Uh, it is like.
Speaker 19 (49:31):
Again, why so it's almost like they can't tackle the issue.
Speaker 12 (49:36):
So they dance on the edge of the issue.
Speaker 7 (49:38):
And yeah, they use virtue signaling, bullying over semantics.
Speaker 6 (49:42):
Yes, if you don't use.
Speaker 7 (49:43):
My word, therefore you're a bad person.
Speaker 1 (49:45):
Yes.
Speaker 6 (49:46):
And and by the way, the way that we should.
Speaker 7 (49:48):
Talk about gender affirming care, child castration, and medieval butchery.
Speaker 6 (49:53):
How's that for language changes.
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