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The Maryland father, who was also an illegal probable white
beater and drug trafficker, claims that he was tortured, but
video shows otherwise of him in the El Salvador prison
and a Scotus cat fight for the age is rare.
I don't know why I did that. That was silly,
and also the New York Times put out a fascinating
(01:02):
clip for that. I thought it was actually really fair
to President Trump, which we'll talk about all that more
coming up on this episode of Turning Point Tonight. My
name is Jobob. Thanks so much for tuning in. Together,
we are charting the course of America's culture will come back.
This is Turning Point Tonight. Before we get to any
of those stories and our fantastic panel. I want to
set this up because everything I've heard about this from
(01:22):
the Lib media is a lie. The big beautiful bill passed,
is signed by President Trump. Lots of great stuff in there,
and lots of stuff that Libs are complaining about. But
again they woke up complaining we don't have time to
go through everything. But specifically, I want to talk about
the thing that they're the loudest about. Oh my goodness,
Medicaid and the reforms that are coming. If you ask
(01:46):
a lib Alessandrio Cortes or Schumer or any of them,
they will say millions will die because of this. Of course, well,
what does it actually say. They've been complaining about cuts
to medicaid, cuts using that term very very loosely in
the fact that in medicaid is even touched, people will die.
(02:08):
Unfortunately that is not the case. Not unfortunately. Don't know
why I said unfortunately it's not good that people die,
because well, first of all, that's not what's happening. Here's
what I thought was I think the most fascinating part
about this, with all of the talk about medicaid. This
is from the Wall Street Journal starting December thirty first,
twenty twenty six. In other words, in a year and
(02:28):
a half, people on Medicaid will basically have to prove
that they are eligible for Medicaid and work eighty hours
a month or volunteer eighties hour hours a month, or
have somebody under the age of fourteen. In other words,
the frantic panic around people will be killed by this
bill because of Medicaid reforms means, oh, so they just
have to have a job or volunteer for an extended
(02:51):
period of time. That sounds fine, and it doesn't kick
in for another year and a half. Well, jeez it,
can we make it any fat st bottom line here
is the Libs are complaining about something that isn't existing,
and such is the normals bring in our panel to
discuss this and so much more. Stephanie Hammill is a
conservative commentator. Will Donahue is the president of the Republican
(03:13):
College Republicans of America. Guys, thanks for joining us, Stephanie.
I want to get to you with this. The fever
pitch from the Libs has been, oh my gosh, millions
will be dead. There's no there's no coming back to this.
But if you actually read the law on what it does,
specifically regarding Medicaid reform, it seems thoroughly reasonable. Here are
(03:37):
the Libs going to continue trying and pulling the wool
over people's eyes?
Speaker 5 (03:40):
Joe, Bob, you're acting like surprised and shocked. Everything that
President Trump does is like the scot the sky is falling.
I mean, he could literally come up with a cure
for cancer tomorrow and they would still have an issue
with it. You can't take these people serious. And when
they start to complain very loudly about anything that the
Trump administration is doing, you know that the Trump administration
(04:00):
is doing something right. And of course the bill's not perfect.
There's a lot of stuff in there that some Republicans
can complain about, but there's a lot of good things
in there. And this is all a part of the
art of the deal, if you will, And you're not
going to get everything that you want every single time,
and so there has to be compromised. But what President
Trump wants is for people to be patient and see
(04:22):
the whole picture. And I'll tell you I trust President
Donald J. Trump because he's always delivered.
Speaker 4 (04:29):
Yeah, William, this again, I'm looking at this going Okay, wait,
so it doesn't this whole work requirement thing doesn't even
kick in until the end of next year. That seems
way too forgiving for me, and they're still complaining about it.
What is this like to you? Is this too tight
of a ship or is this not tied of a
ship enough?
Speaker 6 (04:50):
No, I think it's perfectly calibrated. You got over four
hundred people trying to make a pizza and trying to
decide which ingredients to put on, and it's always going
to be hard to get them to agree. But you know,
of course there's exceptions for those who are not able
bodied or have other problems. I think it's it's a
totally fair requirement. We're talking about twenty hours a week,
and this can come in the form of many different things.
(05:13):
I think it's important with all of these welfare programs
that people are continuing to work. You know, I saw
a video of a woman the other day chastising her
son not to get a job because she'd lose her
Section eight house. It's not the same kind of topic,
but it's in the same kind of realm of we
need to make sure people are working and that they're
not living off of government subsistence.
Speaker 4 (05:32):
Yeah, and it's really not that difficult to find a
job or volunteer, get somebody to sign off. Honestly, there's
to me, there's too many ways that you can hack
this system. And you know, four hundred people trying to
make a pizza. As long as they don't put pineapple
on it, I think I'm good with that, which I
know probably rub some feathers the wrong way. They hate.
Speaker 5 (05:50):
Emails are coming in that I can hear people typing
right now.
Speaker 4 (05:54):
Yeah, well, the emails are coming in hot and heavy. Stephanie.
This I thought was interesting. Let's zoom out thirty thousand
feet in terms of just kind of thinking about this
in the legal term, but also the cultural term. There
is a father that is suing the school of his daughter.
She's fourteen years old. She decided earlier in the year
she was going to sit during the pledge of allegiance,
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which has been pointed out that is her right to do.
But they're suing the school because the teacher gave her
opinion on it, which to me, what this is is
the student decided to quote unquote protest, which again, nobody's
stopping her from doing that. But at the same time,
you're not allowing the teacher to say, hey, that's not cool,
we don't like that, you shouldn't do it, which seems
(06:35):
like free speech to me. There's a lot more particulars
going on, but that's kind of the broad strokes of it. Stephanie. Yes,
the student has the right to quote unquote protest by
sitting down for the pledge of allegiance, But in my opinion,
the teacher has the right to say, that's a dumb protest.
What are your thoughts?
Speaker 5 (06:51):
One hundred percent agree with you? And when I just
want to like zoom out for a minute, the fact
that young kids don't want to stand for the pudge
of allegiance, they don't want to recognize the greatest country
in America and how lucky they are to live in
this beautiful country. I mean, I can't even imagine when
I was a kid having the audacity to sit down
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or even think that we didn't live in the greatest country.
So it really makes me sad. You have to wonder
what type of parents she has. I'm thinking probably like
green haired, short parents, you know, show up at the
women's march, the typical leftist type, Like you know who
they are when you see them in a room because
they all look the same, and so yeah, it's devastating.
Of course, we live in a nation where we have
(07:33):
freedom of speech and that's wonderful, but it is really
soul crushing to see young people not appreciate what they have.
Speaker 4 (07:40):
Yeah, that's a big element to that. That's the cultural
element here. Will First of all, I don't really like
talking about this because the girl is fourteen years old.
But at the same time, they did a press conference
her and her dad and her attorneys. Her attorney said
that she has suffered extensive social and emotional injuries, which
nice use of that language term. There recurring nightmares in
(08:01):
high level of stress, including social injuries because the teacher said, Hey,
that's a dumb idea, don't do that. I don't know
your thoughts on what the school districts do, and maybe
the lawsuit as a whole.
Speaker 6 (08:15):
Look, if West Virginia v. Barnett taught us anything, it's this.
You can sit during the pledge, you can burn the flag,
you can run for mayor of New York, it doesn't matter.
It's freedom. If we've got a fourteen year old Palestinian
girl who refused to stand for the pledge, which is
a bold move, you know, skipping class and taking on
American foreign policies.
Speaker 4 (08:34):
So gen z of her, but.
Speaker 6 (08:36):
You know, this is Michigan. The Pledge of Allegiance is
a regional sacrament. Right, people take more offense to it
than if you're skipping church. Unfortunately, but this isn't necessarily
a breach of the students, you know, writes, as long
as it doesn't you know, raise to the point of discrimination, harassment,
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or retaliation. I think the teacher's got it falls under
protected discourse under Morris F. Fredrick. You know, the teacher
has some level of protection in order to steer the
discourse within their own class, particularly in civics. So if
the professor is trying to correct the behavior and not punish,
(09:18):
you should be okay. Now, I don't know about that
telling people they should go home. Not that I disagree,
to be honest with you, but it, you know, it
probably was not appropriate. I like the sentiment, though, you know,
if you hate this country, don't be here, right, Yeah,
I think that's totally fine to say.
Speaker 7 (09:38):
You know.
Speaker 4 (09:38):
Yeah, And I might have buried the lead tier too.
She it's not like she got kicked out of class.
She didn't get a grade deduction or anything like that.
The teacher just said, hey, this is not And also
to that comment that you mentioned there, a teacher said,
if you don't like it, go home. Apparently that was
a side conversation in private, according to the family themselves. Again,
you know, don't like kids not standing for the pledge
of allegiance. They probably have the right to do that.
(10:00):
At the same time, teacher has the right to voice
their dissent as well. Guys, I want to play this
clip from the NATO chief over there, big news made
on a NATO last week, President Trump saying, hey, you
guys all got to pay your fair share, and they
are doing that. Watch this. This is from the New
York Times. I think that was the biggest thing here.
I read the New York Times so that all of
(10:20):
you don't have to, But Stephanie, I want to get
your reaction here. Watch this again, posted by the New
York Times. Check it out.
Speaker 8 (10:28):
Your interactions with President Trump in the aftermath of that
meeting have been called, and I'm quoting here, fawning and
orchestrated grovel. I saw someone refer to NATO now as
the North Atlantic Trump Organization how do you see it?
Speaker 9 (10:44):
So I think when somebody deserves praise, that praise should
be given, and President Trump deserves all the praise because
without his leadership, without him being re elected, plans in the
United States people can never ever, ever have been able
to achieve agreement to days. In the end, I need
to do my job. I have to keep your whole
of NATO together, and the biggest ally is the United States.
(11:06):
That biggest Islie has based since Eisenhower, more than the Europeans.
And now for the first time in sixty five years,
we will equalize between US is being and what to
Europeans are being so and without Triump that would not
have happened.
Speaker 4 (11:19):
You can see the disgust of the interviewer's face there.
But nevertheless, the New York Times posted that on Instagram.
The comments were not friendly to them, but Stephanie, I
guess what does that say? Even the newspaper that hates
him the most can't help but talk about okay, yeah, Well,
the world leaders, especially NATO, are kind of like, yeah,
this is probably a good idea.
Speaker 5 (11:41):
That was a priceless moment, and I'm glad that you
point out the host because that was exactly where my
eye direction went to was the host face. I mean
literally it was like a frown, bitter, angry lady. She
was not happy. That is exactly not what she wanted
to hear. And you know, you gotta love it. Credit
or credit is due. It's very diplomatic. That's what you
would want to do if you are the leader of
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a foreign country or the people that are having to
make deals with President Trump, you want to have him
on your side. And again this goes to show how
diplomatic that President Trump is. He is a negotiator and
he really does well. We hear all these people on
the left that are like, oh, he's going to embarrass
us on the world stage. He's hitler, he's this, he's that.
But yet everyone seems to roll out the red carpet
(12:24):
for him, so obviously not.
Speaker 4 (12:26):
Yeah, Will, what are your thoughts before we go to
break here? I don't know, what do you think about
the ever changing course of how the world views the
president the United States?
Speaker 6 (12:38):
God forbid, we have peaceful political discourse, you know, the
the Congress. You used to be able to stand up
and say, my well meaning colleague on the other side
of the aisle and now you do not categorically denounce
everything Trump says as white supremacist, you are an enemy
to the state and to the media institution. So I
(13:00):
think what the NATO lead is doing here is good.
I think you should be praising Trump for making people
pay their fair share, and you should call out the
successes where there are, and if that's just called being fair,
call out the call out the problems, and praise the successes.
I think I think it's totally good.
Speaker 4 (13:17):
Yeah, agreed there, and hopefully, hopefully we see more of that.
William and Stephanie will be back after the break to
discuss the new footage of Kilmoar, Brigo Garcia, the Maryland
Father being tortured by having to watch Netflix in the
l Salvador prison, all that more coming up after the break.
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Welcome back to Turning Point tonight. We're together. We are
charging the course of America's cultural comeback. It's time for
the more serious part of the show because the Shenanigans
going on today. So I'm checking with Manica Page Turning Points,
White House correspondent at the White House, Monica, how you.
Speaker 11 (15:09):
Doing, Hey, Joe Bob. It is again. Another heat wave
is coming. I don't know if it's climate change part
two or global warming part two, but we are definitely
experiencing it.
Speaker 5 (15:19):
Another heatwave here at the White House.
Speaker 4 (15:20):
Oh boy, that's you hate to hear that, but glad
your stand cool. Hopefully hopefully you're staying cool. What's going
on with the White House today, bebe in town to
meet with President Trump? What's coming on out of that?
And will there be any sort of blowback as the
Libs call it.
Speaker 11 (15:37):
Yes, well, this is the third meeting that Prime Minister
is really Prime Minister Benjamin Ettanya, who is meeting with
President Trump's the third time here at the White House.
Speaker 5 (15:46):
It's going to be completely closed.
Speaker 11 (15:47):
Off to the press. We do not anticipate the President
coming out of the West Wing like he normally does.
We can definitely won't be able to see the Prime
Minister himself, but we are expected to hear a little
little bit more about the ongoing sixty day ceasefire, the
sixty day true steal that is on the table here.
We're just waiting for Hamas to accept this deal. Israel
(16:08):
I already agreed to the terms, which is releasing ten
live Israeli hostages eighteen deceased Israeli hostages in the region.
Of course, this meeting coming right after President Trump and
the US military quote unquote completely obliterated three of Around's
nuclear facilities in the Middle East, so this is going
to be in all eyes on this meeting. Of course,
(16:29):
it's going to be a dinner, it's going to be
talks behind closed doors. We know Special Envoy Steve Whitkoff
is meeting with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Etnyaw who at
the Blairhouse. So a lot of meetings happening with US
officials today and we're definitely expecting and the President is
hopeful that there will be a deal at some point
this week. Hopefully at some point next week. We know
is really Prime Minister Benchment net Now who also holding
(16:51):
a separate cress briefing at some point this week as well.
And yes, we can definitely expect there to be plenty
of protests. They have already barricaded the roads leading up
to the White House. It's completely closed off in three
different directions. They have giant dump trucks in every single
direction coming into the White House. Right outside of the
coffee shops here. It's pretty desolate. It's very quiet so far,
(17:11):
but we could definitely expect protests. There's been flyers around
on social media accounts protest at six pm Eastern time.
You know, we'll see what happens. At that point, but
they're definitely protests expected.
Speaker 4 (17:22):
Yeah, I can never understand. We're talking a little bit
before this that what people are doing there, What do
they think they're accomplishing with that? But again, hopefully everything
remains remains actually peaceful, not what the lives would call peaceful,
because that means things on fire and that's not peaceful.
They just like to say that anything else going on
in the White House that we should be aware of
(17:43):
or keep an eye on.
Speaker 11 (17:46):
Well, we know that the President is holding a cabinet
meeting tomorrow afternoon. I believe this is either his second
or third cabinet meeting this term, where he's going to
gather all the officials here in one of the cabinet
meeting rooms and talking about latest current affairs. We actually
heard from Press Secretary Caroline Lovett this afternoon regarding his
upcoming schedule. We'll see what comes out of that cabinet meeting.
(18:09):
She didn't dive into too many details regarding that. We
also expect the President to be traveling to Texas following
those devastating floods in the area. We expected to be
surveying the damaged speaking with local leaders on the ground there,
of course, getting FEMA possibly involved and you know, allocating
some funds towards those recovery efforts. So the President is
expected to travel there at some point later this week,
(18:29):
and definitely all I would be on that as well.
Speaker 4 (18:32):
Yeah, it's cabinet meetings. That's a thing, the thing of
the past. I remember a President Biden never actually having
one of those, especially in the last year of his office.
There's some crazy statistic out there of like he didn't
have any cabinet meetings for like a huge extended period
of time. But it'll be interesting seeing what comes out
of that. Monica, Hey, stay cool out there as best
you can, and we'll check in with you tomorrow.
Speaker 11 (18:53):
Thank you, guys, see tomorrow, thank you.
Speaker 4 (18:56):
The Supreme Court has wrapped up for this particular term,
and Katanji Brown Jackson said some unkind and uncharitable things
politically speaking, in which just as Amy Cony Barrett quote
unquote clapped back, if we're gonna use the terms that
the kids use nowadays, there's a cat fight in Scotus.
Let's bring our panel back. Stephanie Hamill, William Donahue, guys,
(19:18):
I think this is really interesting. Katanji Brown Jackson use
some really politically divisive terminology that we haven't seen out
of the court in a really long time. She said
that it's a profoundly dangerous, unchecked arbitrary power, existential threat,
all terms that she used, and in the outgoing Amy
(19:38):
Cony Barrett it can clapped back. I don't like using
these terms, but I feel like to stay hip and relevant,
I kind of have to kind of. I thought this
was really funny. She said, Uh, yeah, we will not
dwell on Justice Jackson's arguments, which are at odds with
mostly two centuries worth of precedent, not to mention the
Constitution itself, kind of rolling her eyes.
Speaker 7 (19:58):
Good.
Speaker 4 (19:58):
Yeah, the crazy one over there is going to continue
being crazy, Stephanie. You know, considering the fact that Katanji
Brown Jackson probably most likely the biggest DEI hire in
all of governments, is to continue to be that, how
much attention should we pay to her? Should we just
continue mocking or even let the Supreme Court themselves mock her.
Speaker 5 (20:23):
I just want to clarify you, Bob, You're not even
being mean. This is a former husband. Joe Biden said
it himself. He says, I'm going to nominate a black
woman to the Supreme Court. So he's not going to
nominate the best person or the person who's most fit
for the job, the person who's most loyal to the Constitution.
He's going to hire somebody solely on their skin color,
which is despicable. That's racist, that's actual racism. So now
(20:46):
fast forward to where we are today. Of course she's
going to do what she's doing, and the media is
eating up every second of it like they're waiting for
her to come up with all these lines. So they
have all these headlines about how what a badash she
is and you know, what a great constitutional scholar. And
this recent scuffle between the two was in regards to
the birthright citizenship and also having to do with the
(21:09):
lower courts, and as you know, the lower courts have
been hammering the Trump administration over everything that is a
constitutional crisis. The American people voted in Donald Trump and
his agenda, and these lower courts are preventing him from
going through with it smoothly. So again, she was completely wrong.
It is so on brand for her. There's a reason
(21:29):
that she was picked is because she's a sick ephant
to the left that they can control.
Speaker 4 (21:33):
You know, as a black woman myself, I was kind
of upset that I didn't get the call to be
nominated in the Supreme Court. But I guess next time around,
I I'll throw my hat in the ring. William, you know,
as a law guy, where do you see this kind
of scuffle in the scope of just more recent Supreme
Courts kind of relationships? How does this kind of fit in?
Speaker 6 (21:59):
There was a total man aster class from Justice Barrett.
There's a common jurisprudence to sign the sign in law
school called the case of the spool and Key and Explorers,
And there's this line about judges flapping their robes and
soaring off into a void of an uncharted future on
wings of judicial rhetoric. And that's basically Justice Jackson's whole philosophy.
Not only has she written more opinions as the freshman
justice than anybody in history, but she just won't stop
(22:21):
talking and her descent, she literally says she skips over
the governing statue because it's full of boring legalies. I mean,
same girl who wants to read statues? Hell, I don't.
But when you can just vibe your way through the
constitutional questions, like it's open mic night at the Supreme
Court and we come on. Meanwhile, Barrett calmly shows up
with a statutory scalpel and torches her. Barrett quotes Jackson
(22:44):
with her own words, like you think legal analysis is boring,
that's literally the job. It's not even legal opinion, it's
legal cinema. Barrett didn't just disagree. She hit her with
a rogue rat reality check. I mean, everyone from the
president on down is bound by the law. Translation, even you, Katanji,
no matter how passionate your podcast length the sense are
(23:05):
must be bound by the law.
Speaker 4 (23:07):
It was fulful'. I'm curious to see if Katanji will
recuse herself in a Gorsic v vibe because obviously she's
a running on the vibes. Speaking of vibes, I am
honestly shocked that we are still talking about this guy.
But the Maryland father who's just from Marylynd and he's
(23:30):
just a father who possibly beats his wife and is
a human trafficker also, but we will leave that aside.
This is the weirdest hill that lives continue to want
to die on for some reason, he was saying. According
to NPR and many other news outlets, he's basically tortured
in that El Salvador in prison and it was hell
on earth. Well named Bouquetla, the president of L Salvador
(23:52):
released some footage that says otherwise, let's play that clip here.
I think Glenn attached some sad music as well. Watch this.
I want to. I want to get to your thoughts
on whether or not this is torture. Check it out.
He has his own room, which is really interesting. Oh
(24:13):
look TV entertainment, very nice, routine health checks. This is
this is Oh he's fishing now, okay, exercise like all right, wait,
(24:36):
I think we've seen it up here. Wow, he's playing soccer. Okay, Stephanie,
I don't know, man, That honestly is a more video
watched that, the nicer it starts to look. I don't
know what do I have to do to be relegated
to a facility which I can fish and play soccer
with my friends and work out and get medical health
(24:58):
checks and also watch Netflix. How torturous was this?
Speaker 5 (25:03):
There's so much there to unpack. I don't even know
where to start. I mean, like, oh, the horrors. You
have time to work out, like I haven't worked out
in like two years. I have a two year old
and a three month old baby, Like, I don't have
time to do. All the things that Abrigo Garcia gets
to do must be nice to like sit down and
watch Netflix, apparently, gardening and all of these other things.
(25:23):
And you have to love the president of El Savador
for releasing this highlight reel, the audacity for Kilmar to
suggest that he's being beaten.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
I mean, I'm not.
Speaker 5 (25:34):
There, so maybe he is, but by the looks of
it doesn't really look like that. I mean, this is
the same guy that got to sit down and have
margaritas with a senator. And you have to ask, why
is it that the left always seems to side with criminals,
alleged criminals, terrorists and all the bad guys and all
the bad policy. It's like they're always on the wrong
(25:54):
side of every issue. It's so embarrassing. But they hate
Trump and his supporters so much that they literally have
no problem going in this direction, whether or not it
makes sense. So this would not be the hill I
would want to die on if I was a Democrat
and wanted to bring a reelection or elections in the future.
But you know, they do weird stuff and I can't
really explain it.
Speaker 4 (26:15):
I sorry, I was laughing because I was watching the
b roll as it was rolling through. Will the picture
of him holding the bird, like I have to pay
for my daughter to hold a bird where I go,
and it's just like this the mental Wellness Day. I
will say, though, Will, and I love your comment on this.
If they did make him watch the most recent iteration
(26:35):
of the snow White series or movie that I think
that actually constitutes his torture on so many different levels.
Your thoughts here with the night Boukal duncan on on
the Maryland Father.
Speaker 6 (26:49):
Yeah, watching the new snow White film definitely would constitute
cruel and unusual punishment and that would bring a constitutional
case on his behalf. But here he's holding parrots, playing chess.
It looks like he's got a personal trainer while he's
doing bench press. This guy's living better than the average
college student from these pictures. Now, god knows what's actually
happening behind the scenes, but this is a criminal indictment
(27:12):
of everything the Democrats have been talking about. I mean,
I'd love to go fishing and play chess all day.
That sounds like a great life. Yeah, kind of kind
of crazy.
Speaker 5 (27:23):
Kim On claims that he was losing weight because of
all the torture, and according to the president El Salvator,
he's actually gained weight and we saw videos of him
just like scarfing down food. He can't make this up,
and the left and the mainstream media gives this guy
a platform to run away with all of these I mean,
I don't know if they're all lies, but by the
looks of it, it's not looking good for his his narrative.
Speaker 4 (27:46):
You know, we get emails all the time. Why are
we keep why are we continuing to talk about this guy?
It just keeps getting funnier and funnier and funnier. So
I just I don't know. I can't help but not
Boke at this point. It's it's comical. And I hope,
hope they continue to pick this hill to die on
because that means I think we win more elections. William Domin, Whue, Donahue,
(28:06):
Stephanie Hamil, guys, thank you so much for joining us.
Really appreciate you taking the time. Any thanks. Coming up next, Hey,
we're going to check in with one of the frontlines
reporters for Tpusay bo Alford, bo Diddle. If you will
on the end of Pride Month, or at least this
year's Pride Month, and the scary encounters that he had
on the streets don't go away. We'll be right back
(28:26):
after the break.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
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to weaponize, but to organize on these college campuses.
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Speaker 12 (29:16):
Oh yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo
yo yo yo yo yo yo yo.
Speaker 4 (29:22):
Holy crap, what I don't have to know anywhere?
Speaker 6 (29:31):
You don't.
Speaker 4 (29:33):
I'm not holy Camera bo Alford is a Turning Point
content creator of works for frontlines as so many different things.
Is the guy on the streets, bo You know, all
I saw there was tolerance. Good to talk to you.
First of all, All I saw was tolerance, loving peace,
(29:54):
respect for other people's opinions. You know, why why did
you walk away from such a loving and kind conversation.
You know, It's funny.
Speaker 7 (30:03):
I was watching that back and they're like telling me
to leave, and normally I try and stand my ground,
and at the time I was actually not planning on leaving,
but then when they got the chains, I do have
to say they kind of won that fight. As soon
as I saw the chain, I was like, Okay, you
know what, I actually will leave.
Speaker 4 (30:21):
Yeah, And that's that's I would love to talk to
you about that because there's some really tense moments that
you have to deal with that kind of the the
guy on the streets talking to people, and I even
saw some some comments unfortunate. I'm sure you've seen him
and had to deal with this for the last couple
of days of like you're being a wimplay good, total baby,
Like I don't know, there's a safety element there, which
(30:43):
I would have booked it too, but what is that like, Actually,
you know what, before we get your answer, I'm gonna
play this clip forward. This is another confrontation where you
do kind of just kind of man up to the dude,
and I don't know, we'll have the viewers watch this,
and I want to get your reaction to kind of
what those tense moments are, like, who are.
Speaker 9 (31:06):
You with them?
Speaker 7 (31:07):
I'm not who you with? I'm just asking with who
just for.
Speaker 11 (31:13):
Them?
Speaker 4 (31:13):
I'm not with them.
Speaker 3 (31:15):
Well if you if you get out of my face,
you up.
Speaker 4 (31:21):
Happy pride another exchange with peace and tolerance. But okay,
So what what goes through your mind when that's happening
and what makes you decide you know this is a
fight or flight or stand by ground mode? What what
is that? So?
Speaker 7 (31:39):
What made me stand up to that guy is, first off,
it was one person as opposed to twenty, so that's big.
Second off, the only thing he had was his dong.
That was like the only thing, you know, It's not
like he had a backpack on. He didn't have a
duffel bag. I knew if he's gonna hit me, it's
(31:59):
he gonna be with his fist or with his dong.
So I was like, you know what if if he's
like this, then you know, I'm not scared of him.
But then, in contrary the clip in San Francisco that
got violent, two of them had metal chains. Another guy
had a black bag across his chest, so I didn't
(32:22):
know what was in there, and there was also like
seventeen people behind them. So even if I were to
take one or two of them, which you know I
probably could because I'm a giga chad, I can't get
twenty you know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (32:37):
I don't care who you are.
Speaker 7 (32:39):
You might think you're the toughest guy in the world,
but if you get put against twenty people, you're not
gonna survive that fight. And you know, I'm not arrogant
enough to think that I could either.
Speaker 4 (32:50):
Yeah, no, and yeah. It's kind of like a split
second decision making that you kind of got to have
to have. Unfortunately, I don't that, dude, I don't. I
don't even want to know what the full context of
that whole video. I know it's just short clips, but
I don't even really want to see what else that
guy was probably doing in that parade. This is This
is another one that I thought was really interesting too,
(33:11):
and I love the the questions, are the the different
paradoxes that you put people in of who this or
that or this is the other thing? Uh, watch watch this.
I know you've seen. I'm not telling you to watch it,
but viewers watched this. Uh this is this was viewed
what a couple million times of bo trying to figure
(33:31):
out who these people want in our country.
Speaker 7 (33:34):
Watch this, would you rather have in your country?
Speaker 11 (33:36):
Number one?
Speaker 7 (33:37):
Or number two? Number two?
Speaker 4 (33:38):
Number two?
Speaker 6 (33:40):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (33:40):
Number two, number two, number.
Speaker 4 (33:43):
Two, proud?
Speaker 11 (33:45):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (33:45):
Is there a third option where they're both not there?
Speaker 11 (33:49):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (33:49):
I'm not a fan of traders or fascists. Okay, so
let's just bring a deris into the country.
Speaker 4 (33:55):
I okay, So in case you're just listening to this
on any podcast, but was talking about a woman in
a magahad who happens to be his fiance and or
Osama bin Laan? Who do we want to have in
the country.
Speaker 2 (34:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (34:07):
I've been curious about this whole time since I've seen
that video. Do people know who Osama bin Laden is?
Let's start there. So they did.
Speaker 7 (34:16):
Yes, Now I can't say one hundred percent of them,
but a great majority, and I believe in that clip
they knew it was Osama bin Laden, which is insane.
You know, you always get told that conservatives are the extremists.
Speaker 4 (34:36):
You know, we don't call liberals.
Speaker 7 (34:38):
Fascists and Nazis, it's the other way around. But they're
the ones that would rather have a terrorist in the
country than my beautiful fiance who wouldn't hurt a fly.
Last night she had me turn off a scene of
a dog getting hurt in.
Speaker 4 (34:54):
A TV show.
Speaker 7 (34:55):
She's so innocent, yet she is the violent terror at extremist.
Speaker 4 (35:02):
Yeah, it's it's unbelievable. Here's I would love your thoughts
on this because I'm just genuinely curious. There's all of
this content out there with people saying ridiculous crazy things,
and we might get time for one more of those
that I thought was fascinating. But conservatis get accused of
nut picking, meaning that like, okay, you pick out the
one nut in the crowd and you kind of blow
(35:22):
that person up to I guess, kind of a swage
people of that being the only thing that's happening. How
easy is it to get content at these particular events.
Is it like okay, we got one clip or is
it pretty like yeah, you talk to ten people, you're
gonna get eight really weird crazy answers? What is the
(35:43):
actual kind of proportion of crazy people to seemingly normal
people that can function in society.
Speaker 7 (35:52):
Yeah, I'm so glad you brought that point up, because
that is a very good point. A lot of people
do think that we uh cherry pick which ones go in.
I'm not exaggerating to you when I say we interviewed
ten people asking them the same question. Ten of them
said Osama bin Laden. It's not like, oh, there's one
(36:13):
person that says Osama bin Laden.
Speaker 4 (36:14):
They're they're gonna get in the video.
Speaker 7 (36:16):
Now. I had ample choices to put online, and a
lot of them. If you go to my social you'll
see multiple interviews where they all say Osama bin Laden.
Speaker 4 (36:29):
Wow, that is unbelievable. Is that pretty ubiquitous across kind
of all of the different events that you go to,
because obviously, you know, you ask different questions, you talk
to different people. How likely is it if you're if
you're asking somebody with a microphone a certain question that's
gonna make them sound like a crazy lip.
Speaker 7 (36:47):
How often is it that they actually are Oh, I
would say ninety five percent of the time. There's been
a there's been a few based Black Pride goers who
are like actually Trump supporters, which was awesome and you know,
I'll high five them, But a great majority is just
(37:12):
insane and will be the most radical leftist. I would
rather have a terrorist in the country than someone in
a maga hat who just so happens to be beautiful.
Speaker 4 (37:23):
Yeah, that's that's wild, because I think we'll probably get
a bunch of emails here saying, hey, stop showing all
this crazy stuff in it. In my opinions, you kind
of have to because these people are more around where
you are than you think, which is kind of scary
to think about. I am going to play this last clip, Glenn.
This is in clip one. Get a brief response. We're
(37:46):
going to ask if we're allowed to play this and
if you if you see it, then you'll see it.
If we cut to commercial right now, that means we
got denied. So either watch this or we'll be back
after the break clip.
Speaker 7 (37:59):
Will It's the weirdest thing about conservatives. They're all sexually repressed.
Speaker 11 (38:06):
What do you mean by that?
Speaker 12 (38:07):
They like to pretend that they don't want to, but
then their wives, their husbands and their mistresses behind everyone's backs,
and then they like to pretend that they're virgins to
the front.
Speaker 7 (38:15):
Okay, all right, last question for you. What's the weirdest
thing about yourself?
Speaker 12 (38:22):
I like being peed on?
Speaker 7 (38:25):
Okay, I wasn't expecting that answer.
Speaker 12 (38:27):
Do you ask me what is the weirdest thing about myself.
I'm a fimboy and I like people to pee on them.
Speaker 4 (38:34):
Is that the weirdest answer you've got? Bo I hope
it is. It's up there, Okay, I'll say that.
Speaker 7 (38:41):
I don't know if it's the weirdest one I've got.
I would have to go back in the archive, but
it's definitely up there, especially the shock factor.
Speaker 4 (38:49):
Jeez. Okay, well, poll for thanks for joining us. Really
appreciate you taking the time today, but also to all
of these stuff that you do on the streets. It's
just highly entertaining and high troubling at the same time.
You are hilarious and horrifying. Horror farious is the new
word that I'm gonna coin. Thanks for doing what you do, man,
I appreciate it.
Speaker 7 (39:09):
Hey, thanks for having me on. I'm gonna go to therapy.
Speaker 4 (39:11):
Now, yeah, as you should. All right, Well, so that
was that, you know. Coming up after the break, we're
gonna play some more tame clips from around the internet
and also possibly even read some emails tpt at tpusa
dot com in case you went to break a couple
of minutes early. Who knows that maybe that happened, Depending
(39:31):
whether or not we got approval. Don't go away regardless.
We'll be right back after the break. Welcome back to
(39:54):
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(40:15):
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without further ado. Let me get to this clip because
(40:36):
it's rather long and a little bit of time to
discussion afterwards. Watch this. This is libs being crazy and
doing lib things.
Speaker 13 (40:42):
Am I overreacting? I left my therapist for political reasons.
I said, I understand this is personal and possibly inappropriate,
but I need to know if you voted for Trump.
I don't want to receive life advice, be vulnerable, and
be treated by someone with such a drastically different set
of morals and valleys than I have. She said it
shouldn't matter who she voted for. I said, in this case,
for me, it does. She said she would not tell
(41:03):
me who she voted for, but she's conflicted by many
of the issues. She said she's conflicted about Black Lives
Matter movement because it was violent, and she said she's
conflicted about social programs because she doesn't want people taking
advantage of them. You're against social programs, but you're a therapist.
I told her that pretty much. My answer answers my question,
and I'm thankful for our time, but I'm sorry. I
don't think I can continue working with you. She got
(41:23):
pretty angry. She said she was disappointed and teered up
a bit. I felt like kind of a dick. But
I can't justify paying money for treatment from someone I
fundamentally disagree with about being about what being a good
person means. I don't know, am I overreacting.
Speaker 4 (41:37):
Yes, actually, yes you are, and to the extent that
it's able to be discussed in this short period of time.
There's too much therapy. And I say that as a
guy who's married to a therapist who my wife would
also say it. There's too much therapy going on, and
the majority, the overwhelming majority, is coming from libs who
(41:57):
are driving people into needing more things therapy. That is
the problem here in its totality. Obviously there's much more
to unpack here than we don't have time for. But
the bottom line of this, yes, you are overreacting, and
maybe maybe the problems that you're having in your life
is because your worldview is so skewed by a bunch
of freaking live therapists, crazy and wild. Hope to see
(42:20):
you at SaaS. If you are at SaaS, come say hi.
We have a whole turning point tonight booth that's gonna
do it for us. Charlie is gonna take us out
with the best of the Charlie Kirkshow we'll see tomorrow,
same time, saying place, God bless America. What a weekend.
Speaker 2 (42:39):
President Donald Trump signed the Big Beautiful Bill on Independence
Day on July fourth, signaling a massive legislative accomplishment, tax cut,
no tax on tips, no tax and overtime, no tax
on social security, huge investment in border security, one hundred
and seventy five billion dollars for ICE. We're going to
(43:01):
talk more about the profundity and the importance of this bill,
but it is it is of great urgent necessity that
we cover what is coming next. And yes, we are
going to talk about Epstein. We're also going to have
live coverage from the awful and the unspeakable tragedy happening
(43:22):
in Kerr County and near Hunt, Texas. Just a national
tragedy with the flooding issue in Texas. But you would
think that, hey, we get one hundred and seventy five
billion dollars for ICE, we're going to get mass deportations.
We're going to be able to have now the largest
deportation effort ever. Yes, in theory, but in practice, there's
(43:47):
something else afoot. Literally, the day before President Donald Trump
was signing the big beautiful bill, I got a couple
phone calls from people that you would call members of
the ruling class. A lot of money and a lot
of connections, they said, Charlie isn't this amazing. We passed
the big beautiful bill. I said, oh, yes, sir, and
(44:08):
they said, now we need mass amnesty. What I said,
we haven't even signed the bill yet. They said, yeah,
you know, these deportations. We're going to lose the mid
terms because of the deportations. The people on the right,
they'll understand, and we need to come to the middle
and we need to legalize the twenty five million people
(44:29):
here in this country.
Speaker 4 (44:30):
I was speechless.
Speaker 2 (44:31):
You see here, I am actually thinking the naive We're
going to sign this big beautiful bill and we're actually
going to get mass deportations on and erupted from an
asymmetrical attack. So we have somewhere between twenty to fifty
million illegal aliens in this country. We don't actually know
(44:52):
the numbers. These are all guestimates. These are all just approximations.
There is a movement of foot as I am doing
this broadcast. And this is bigger than anything with Epstein.
This is bigger than anything with tax cuts. It is
happening right now in Washington, DC. And I can say
this from first hand experience, that people are pushing President
(45:16):
Trump for amnesty. They are pushing him for mass legalization
of illegals. Now, President Donald Trump, of course would never
push for amnesty. But President Donald Trump said something at
a rally on July third, and my phone lit up
like you wouldn't imagine. President Donald Trump was talking about
(45:37):
potentially doing a bipartisan compromise deal for illegals that have
stolen Social Security numbers, that are illegally domiciling themselves here
in the country, that are all felons. Every single one
of them are felons. They're just not yet indicted felons.
But if they're here illegally, you're a felon. It's against
(45:57):
federal law. We've gone through all the different federal law
that you break by being here. And this is President
Donald Trump speaking at the Iwall rally saying that we
might need to do some form He didn't use the
word amnesty, but some form of soft amnesty. And I
could tell you now through other reporting that I've been
(46:18):
able to do in phone calls, there is a major
push right now to do a bipartisan amnesty deal, a
major push. People are trying to push the President, Hey,
you got the money for ice, now we need to
go move to the middle on immigration. Play cut two fifty.
Speaker 14 (46:33):
Eight people have worked for a farm on a farm
for fourteen fifteen years and they get thrown out pretty viciously,
and we can't do it. We got to work with
the farmers and people that have hotels and leisure properties
to We're gonna work with them, and we're gonna work
very strong and smart, and we're gonna put you in charge.
We're gonna make you responsible. And I think that that's
(46:54):
gonna make a lot of people happy. Now, serious radical
right people who I also happen to like a lot.
They may not be quite as happy, but they'll understand,
won't they Do you think they'll understand that you're the
one that brought this whole situation up. Brooke Rollins brought
it up, and she said, so, we have a little problem.
The farmers are losing a lot of people. And we
figured it out and we have some great stuff being written,
(47:17):
and let the farmers be responsible.
Speaker 2 (47:22):
Let the farmers be responsible. Look, I trust President Trump's
instincts one hundred percent here, but there is a group
of people that are pushing President Trump very hard to
stop the deportation effort and to try to have some
sort of a come to the table moment of a
bipartisan compromise that we need to try to figure out
(47:43):
how to make these people have a pathway to citizenship. Now,
this is not, by any means a knock on President Trump.
It is a knock on people that are trying to
pressure President Trump and pressure him hard. We don't know
any of the details, but President Trump did say that
the radical right people that he has a soft spot
(48:07):
for wouldn't like this. Hello, Hi, I'm one of those
radical right people, and I want to know what I'm
not going to like because of all the different stuff
that's in front of us. If you want to break
our coalition go and push amnesty that right, there would
be a complete collapse of everything that we have worked for.
Speaker 4 (48:27):
Everything.
Speaker 2 (48:28):
So we don't know any details, but it looks as
if President Trump might be in preliminary discussions, and I
could tell you that there are many different discussions that
I've had with people, and they are pushing it hard
to create some kind of amnesty proposal aims specifically at
farm laborers in the United States, but it's more than that.
It could be hotels, it could be leisure properties. We've
(48:49):
heard the arguments about this for years well, the crops
are going to rotten the fields, they'll be starvation. But
here's the main thing that you need to know. We've
tried this before. This is not some sort of new thing.
And by the way, just so we are clear, I
went to an event this last weekend in San Diego Ja.
D Vance was there and another person came up and said, Charlie,
(49:11):
do you know what we need? We need to have
some sort of pathway citizenship for twenty five people. I said,
are you guys on all some sort of group chat
or something? Are you guys all just coordinating? We have
not even forty eight hours of the largest investment in
border security, deportation and ice. And why are you pitching
me on mass amnesty? What is that all about.
Speaker 4 (49:32):
There's a lot of.
Speaker 2 (49:32):
Reasons for this, and one of which is the corporate
class is deathly afraid that they might actually have to
hire Americans and pay a higher wage. Somehow, other countries
are able to grow food without imported surf labor. How
are they able to do that? I don't know. Apparently
we have built so many parts of our economy to
be reliant on foreign criminal invaders that have come into
(49:55):
this country.
Got to admire what you've been able to do, not
to weaponize, but to organize on these college campuses.
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Speaker 4 (00:39):
The Maryland father, who was also an illegal probable white
beater and drug trafficker, claims that he was tortured, but
video shows otherwise of him in the El Salvador prison
and a Scotus cat fight for the age is rare.
I don't know why I did that. That was silly,
and also the New York Times put out a fascinating
(01:02):
clip for that. I thought it was actually really fair
to President Trump, which we'll talk about all that more
coming up on this episode of Turning Point Tonight. My
name is Jobob. Thanks so much for tuning in. Together,
we are charting the course of America's culture will come back.
This is Turning Point Tonight. Before we get to any
of those stories and our fantastic panel. I want to
set this up because everything I've heard about this from
(01:22):
the Lib media is a lie. The big beautiful bill passed,
is signed by President Trump. Lots of great stuff in there,
and lots of stuff that Libs are complaining about. But
again they woke up complaining we don't have time to
go through everything. But specifically, I want to talk about
the thing that they're the loudest about. Oh my goodness,
Medicaid and the reforms that are coming. If you ask
(01:46):
a lib Alessandrio Cortes or Schumer or any of them,
they will say millions will die because of this. Of course, well,
what does it actually say. They've been complaining about cuts
to medicaid, cuts using that term very very loosely in
the fact that in medicaid is even touched, people will die.
(02:08):
Unfortunately that is not the case. Not unfortunately. Don't know
why I said unfortunately it's not good that people die,
because well, first of all, that's not what's happening. Here's
what I thought was I think the most fascinating part
about this, with all of the talk about medicaid. This
is from the Wall Street Journal starting December thirty first,
twenty twenty six. In other words, in a year and
(02:28):
a half, people on Medicaid will basically have to prove
that they are eligible for Medicaid and work eighty hours
a month or volunteer eighties hour hours a month, or
have somebody under the age of fourteen. In other words,
the frantic panic around people will be killed by this
bill because of Medicaid reforms means, oh, so they just
have to have a job or volunteer for an extended
(02:51):
period of time. That sounds fine, and it doesn't kick
in for another year and a half. Well, jeez it,
can we make it any fat st bottom line here
is the Libs are complaining about something that isn't existing,
and such is the normals bring in our panel to
discuss this and so much more. Stephanie Hammill is a
conservative commentator. Will Donahue is the president of the Republican
(03:13):
College Republicans of America. Guys, thanks for joining us, Stephanie.
I want to get to you with this. The fever
pitch from the Libs has been, oh my gosh, millions
will be dead. There's no there's no coming back to this.
But if you actually read the law on what it does,
specifically regarding Medicaid reform, it seems thoroughly reasonable. Here are
(03:37):
the Libs going to continue trying and pulling the wool
over people's eyes?
Speaker 5 (03:40):
Joe, Bob, you're acting like surprised and shocked. Everything that
President Trump does is like the scot the sky is falling.
I mean, he could literally come up with a cure
for cancer tomorrow and they would still have an issue
with it. You can't take these people serious. And when
they start to complain very loudly about anything that the
Trump administration is doing, you know that the Trump administration
(04:00):
is doing something right. And of course the bill's not perfect.
There's a lot of stuff in there that some Republicans
can complain about, but there's a lot of good things
in there. And this is all a part of the
art of the deal, if you will, And you're not
going to get everything that you want every single time,
and so there has to be compromised. But what President
Trump wants is for people to be patient and see
(04:22):
the whole picture. And I'll tell you I trust President
Donald J. Trump because he's always delivered.
Speaker 4 (04:29):
Yeah, William, this again, I'm looking at this going Okay, wait,
so it doesn't this whole work requirement thing doesn't even
kick in until the end of next year. That seems
way too forgiving for me, and they're still complaining about it.
What is this like to you? Is this too tight
of a ship or is this not tied of a
ship enough?
Speaker 6 (04:50):
No, I think it's perfectly calibrated. You got over four
hundred people trying to make a pizza and trying to
decide which ingredients to put on, and it's always going
to be hard to get them to agree. But you know,
of course there's exceptions for those who are not able
bodied or have other problems. I think it's it's a
totally fair requirement. We're talking about twenty hours a week,
and this can come in the form of many different things.
(05:13):
I think it's important with all of these welfare programs
that people are continuing to work. You know, I saw
a video of a woman the other day chastising her
son not to get a job because she'd lose her
Section eight house. It's not the same kind of topic,
but it's in the same kind of realm of we
need to make sure people are working and that they're
not living off of government subsistence.
Speaker 4 (05:32):
Yeah, and it's really not that difficult to find a
job or volunteer, get somebody to sign off. Honestly, there's
to me, there's too many ways that you can hack
this system. And you know, four hundred people trying to
make a pizza. As long as they don't put pineapple
on it, I think I'm good with that, which I
know probably rub some feathers the wrong way. They hate.
Speaker 5 (05:50):
Emails are coming in that I can hear people typing
right now.
Speaker 4 (05:54):
Yeah, well, the emails are coming in hot and heavy. Stephanie.
This I thought was interesting. Let's zoom out thirty thousand
feet in terms of just kind of thinking about this
in the legal term, but also the cultural term. There
is a father that is suing the school of his daughter.
She's fourteen years old. She decided earlier in the year
she was going to sit during the pledge of allegiance,
(06:14):
which has been pointed out that is her right to do.
But they're suing the school because the teacher gave her
opinion on it, which to me, what this is is
the student decided to quote unquote protest, which again, nobody's
stopping her from doing that. But at the same time,
you're not allowing the teacher to say, hey, that's not cool,
we don't like that, you shouldn't do it, which seems
(06:35):
like free speech to me. There's a lot more particulars
going on, but that's kind of the broad strokes of it. Stephanie. Yes,
the student has the right to quote unquote protest by
sitting down for the pledge of allegiance, But in my opinion,
the teacher has the right to say, that's a dumb protest.
What are your thoughts?
Speaker 5 (06:51):
One hundred percent agree with you? And when I just
want to like zoom out for a minute, the fact
that young kids don't want to stand for the pudge
of allegiance, they don't want to recognize the greatest country
in America and how lucky they are to live in
this beautiful country. I mean, I can't even imagine when
I was a kid having the audacity to sit down
(07:12):
or even think that we didn't live in the greatest country.
So it really makes me sad. You have to wonder
what type of parents she has. I'm thinking probably like
green haired, short parents, you know, show up at the
women's march, the typical leftist type, Like you know who
they are when you see them in a room because
they all look the same, and so yeah, it's devastating.
Of course, we live in a nation where we have
(07:33):
freedom of speech and that's wonderful, but it is really
soul crushing to see young people not appreciate what they have.
Speaker 4 (07:40):
Yeah, that's a big element to that. That's the cultural
element here. Will First of all, I don't really like
talking about this because the girl is fourteen years old.
But at the same time, they did a press conference
her and her dad and her attorneys. Her attorney said
that she has suffered extensive social and emotional injuries, which
nice use of that language term. There recurring nightmares in
(08:01):
high level of stress, including social injuries because the teacher said, Hey,
that's a dumb idea, don't do that. I don't know
your thoughts on what the school districts do, and maybe
the lawsuit as a whole.
Speaker 6 (08:15):
Look, if West Virginia v. Barnett taught us anything, it's this.
You can sit during the pledge, you can burn the flag,
you can run for mayor of New York, it doesn't matter.
It's freedom. If we've got a fourteen year old Palestinian
girl who refused to stand for the pledge, which is
a bold move, you know, skipping class and taking on
American foreign policies.
Speaker 4 (08:34):
So gen z of her, but.
Speaker 6 (08:36):
You know, this is Michigan. The Pledge of Allegiance is
a regional sacrament. Right, people take more offense to it
than if you're skipping church. Unfortunately, but this isn't necessarily
a breach of the students, you know, writes, as long
as it doesn't you know, raise to the point of discrimination, harassment,
(08:56):
or retaliation. I think the teacher's got it falls under
protected discourse under Morris F. Fredrick. You know, the teacher
has some level of protection in order to steer the
discourse within their own class, particularly in civics. So if
the professor is trying to correct the behavior and not punish,
(09:18):
you should be okay. Now, I don't know about that
telling people they should go home. Not that I disagree,
to be honest with you, but it, you know, it
probably was not appropriate. I like the sentiment, though, you know,
if you hate this country, don't be here, right, Yeah,
I think that's totally fine to say.
Speaker 7 (09:38):
You know.
Speaker 4 (09:38):
Yeah, And I might have buried the lead tier too.
She it's not like she got kicked out of class.
She didn't get a grade deduction or anything like that.
The teacher just said, hey, this is not And also
to that comment that you mentioned there, a teacher said,
if you don't like it, go home. Apparently that was
a side conversation in private, according to the family themselves. Again,
you know, don't like kids not standing for the pledge
of allegiance. They probably have the right to do that.
(10:00):
At the same time, teacher has the right to voice
their dissent as well. Guys, I want to play this
clip from the NATO chief over there, big news made
on a NATO last week, President Trump saying, hey, you
guys all got to pay your fair share, and they
are doing that. Watch this. This is from the New
York Times. I think that was the biggest thing here.
I read the New York Times so that all of
(10:20):
you don't have to, But Stephanie, I want to get
your reaction here. Watch this again, posted by the New
York Times. Check it out.
Speaker 8 (10:28):
Your interactions with President Trump in the aftermath of that
meeting have been called, and I'm quoting here, fawning and
orchestrated grovel. I saw someone refer to NATO now as
the North Atlantic Trump Organization how do you see it?
Speaker 9 (10:44):
So I think when somebody deserves praise, that praise should
be given, and President Trump deserves all the praise because
without his leadership, without him being re elected, plans in the
United States people can never ever, ever have been able
to achieve agreement to days. In the end, I need
to do my job. I have to keep your whole
of NATO together, and the biggest ally is the United States.
(11:06):
That biggest Islie has based since Eisenhower, more than the Europeans.
And now for the first time in sixty five years,
we will equalize between US is being and what to
Europeans are being so and without Triump that would not
have happened.
Speaker 4 (11:19):
You can see the disgust of the interviewer's face there.
But nevertheless, the New York Times posted that on Instagram.
The comments were not friendly to them, but Stephanie, I
guess what does that say? Even the newspaper that hates
him the most can't help but talk about okay, yeah, Well,
the world leaders, especially NATO, are kind of like, yeah,
this is probably a good idea.
Speaker 5 (11:41):
That was a priceless moment, and I'm glad that you
point out the host because that was exactly where my
eye direction went to was the host face. I mean
literally it was like a frown, bitter, angry lady. She
was not happy. That is exactly not what she wanted
to hear. And you know, you gotta love it. Credit
or credit is due. It's very diplomatic. That's what you
would want to do if you are the leader of
(12:03):
a foreign country or the people that are having to
make deals with President Trump, you want to have him
on your side. And again this goes to show how
diplomatic that President Trump is. He is a negotiator and
he really does well. We hear all these people on
the left that are like, oh, he's going to embarrass
us on the world stage. He's hitler, he's this, he's that.
But yet everyone seems to roll out the red carpet
(12:24):
for him, so obviously not.
Speaker 4 (12:26):
Yeah, Will, what are your thoughts before we go to
break here? I don't know, what do you think about
the ever changing course of how the world views the
president the United States?
Speaker 6 (12:38):
God forbid, we have peaceful political discourse, you know, the
the Congress. You used to be able to stand up
and say, my well meaning colleague on the other side
of the aisle and now you do not categorically denounce
everything Trump says as white supremacist, you are an enemy
to the state and to the media institution. So I
(13:00):
think what the NATO lead is doing here is good.
I think you should be praising Trump for making people
pay their fair share, and you should call out the
successes where there are, and if that's just called being fair,
call out the call out the problems, and praise the successes.
I think I think it's totally good.
Speaker 4 (13:17):
Yeah, agreed there, and hopefully, hopefully we see more of that.
William and Stephanie will be back after the break to
discuss the new footage of Kilmoar, Brigo Garcia, the Maryland
Father being tortured by having to watch Netflix in the
l Salvador prison, all that more coming up after the break.
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going on today. So I'm checking with Manica Page Turning Points,
White House correspondent at the White House, Monica, how you.
Speaker 11 (15:09):
Doing, Hey, Joe Bob. It is again. Another heat wave
is coming. I don't know if it's climate change part
two or global warming part two, but we are definitely
experiencing it.
Speaker 5 (15:19):
Another heatwave here at the White House.
Speaker 4 (15:20):
Oh boy, that's you hate to hear that, but glad
your stand cool. Hopefully hopefully you're staying cool. What's going
on with the White House today, bebe in town to
meet with President Trump? What's coming on out of that?
And will there be any sort of blowback as the
Libs call it.
Speaker 11 (15:37):
Yes, well, this is the third meeting that Prime Minister
is really Prime Minister Benjamin Ettanya, who is meeting with
President Trump's the third time here at the White House.
Speaker 5 (15:46):
It's going to be completely closed.
Speaker 11 (15:47):
Off to the press. We do not anticipate the President
coming out of the West Wing like he normally does.
We can definitely won't be able to see the Prime
Minister himself, but we are expected to hear a little
little bit more about the ongoing sixty day ceasefire, the
sixty day true steal that is on the table here.
We're just waiting for Hamas to accept this deal. Israel
(16:08):
I already agreed to the terms, which is releasing ten
live Israeli hostages eighteen deceased Israeli hostages in the region.
Of course, this meeting coming right after President Trump and
the US military quote unquote completely obliterated three of Around's
nuclear facilities in the Middle East, so this is going
to be in all eyes on this meeting. Of course,
(16:29):
it's going to be a dinner, it's going to be
talks behind closed doors. We know Special Envoy Steve Whitkoff
is meeting with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Etnyaw who at
the Blairhouse. So a lot of meetings happening with US
officials today and we're definitely expecting and the President is
hopeful that there will be a deal at some point
this week. Hopefully at some point next week. We know
is really Prime Minister Benchment net Now who also holding
(16:51):
a separate cress briefing at some point this week as well.
And yes, we can definitely expect there to be plenty
of protests. They have already barricaded the roads leading up
to the White House. It's completely closed off in three
different directions. They have giant dump trucks in every single
direction coming into the White House. Right outside of the
coffee shops here. It's pretty desolate. It's very quiet so far,
(17:11):
but we could definitely expect protests. There's been flyers around
on social media accounts protest at six pm Eastern time.
You know, we'll see what happens. At that point, but
they're definitely protests expected.
Speaker 4 (17:22):
Yeah, I can never understand. We're talking a little bit
before this that what people are doing there, What do
they think they're accomplishing with that? But again, hopefully everything
remains remains actually peaceful, not what the lives would call peaceful,
because that means things on fire and that's not peaceful.
They just like to say that anything else going on
in the White House that we should be aware of
(17:43):
or keep an eye on.
Speaker 11 (17:46):
Well, we know that the President is holding a cabinet
meeting tomorrow afternoon. I believe this is either his second
or third cabinet meeting this term, where he's going to
gather all the officials here in one of the cabinet
meeting rooms and talking about latest current affairs. We actually
heard from Press Secretary Caroline Lovett this afternoon regarding his
upcoming schedule. We'll see what comes out of that cabinet meeting.
(18:09):
She didn't dive into too many details regarding that. We
also expect the President to be traveling to Texas following
those devastating floods in the area. We expected to be
surveying the damaged speaking with local leaders on the ground there,
of course, getting FEMA possibly involved and you know, allocating
some funds towards those recovery efforts. So the President is
expected to travel there at some point later this week,
(18:29):
and definitely all I would be on that as well.
Speaker 4 (18:32):
Yeah, it's cabinet meetings. That's a thing, the thing of
the past. I remember a President Biden never actually having
one of those, especially in the last year of his office.
There's some crazy statistic out there of like he didn't
have any cabinet meetings for like a huge extended period
of time. But it'll be interesting seeing what comes out
of that. Monica, Hey, stay cool out there as best
you can, and we'll check in with you tomorrow.
Speaker 11 (18:53):
Thank you, guys, see tomorrow, thank you.
Speaker 4 (18:56):
The Supreme Court has wrapped up for this particular term,
and Katanji Brown Jackson said some unkind and uncharitable things
politically speaking, in which just as Amy Cony Barrett quote
unquote clapped back, if we're gonna use the terms that
the kids use nowadays, there's a cat fight in Scotus.
Let's bring our panel back. Stephanie Hamill, William Donahue, guys,
(19:18):
I think this is really interesting. Katanji Brown Jackson use
some really politically divisive terminology that we haven't seen out
of the court in a really long time. She said
that it's a profoundly dangerous, unchecked arbitrary power, existential threat,
all terms that she used, and in the outgoing Amy
(19:38):
Cony Barrett it can clapped back. I don't like using
these terms, but I feel like to stay hip and relevant,
I kind of have to kind of. I thought this
was really funny. She said, Uh, yeah, we will not
dwell on Justice Jackson's arguments, which are at odds with
mostly two centuries worth of precedent, not to mention the
Constitution itself, kind of rolling her eyes.
Speaker 7 (19:58):
Good.
Speaker 4 (19:58):
Yeah, the crazy one over there is going to continue
being crazy, Stephanie. You know, considering the fact that Katanji
Brown Jackson probably most likely the biggest DEI hire in
all of governments, is to continue to be that, how
much attention should we pay to her? Should we just
continue mocking or even let the Supreme Court themselves mock her.
Speaker 5 (20:23):
I just want to clarify you, Bob, You're not even
being mean. This is a former husband. Joe Biden said
it himself. He says, I'm going to nominate a black
woman to the Supreme Court. So he's not going to
nominate the best person or the person who's most fit
for the job, the person who's most loyal to the Constitution.
He's going to hire somebody solely on their skin color,
which is despicable. That's racist, that's actual racism. So now
(20:46):
fast forward to where we are today. Of course she's
going to do what she's doing, and the media is
eating up every second of it like they're waiting for
her to come up with all these lines. So they
have all these headlines about how what a badash she
is and you know, what a great constitutional scholar. And
this recent scuffle between the two was in regards to
the birthright citizenship and also having to do with the
(21:09):
lower courts, and as you know, the lower courts have
been hammering the Trump administration over everything that is a
constitutional crisis. The American people voted in Donald Trump and
his agenda, and these lower courts are preventing him from
going through with it smoothly. So again, she was completely wrong.
It is so on brand for her. There's a reason
(21:29):
that she was picked is because she's a sick ephant
to the left that they can control.
Speaker 4 (21:33):
You know, as a black woman myself, I was kind
of upset that I didn't get the call to be
nominated in the Supreme Court. But I guess next time around,
I I'll throw my hat in the ring. William, you know,
as a law guy, where do you see this kind
of scuffle in the scope of just more recent Supreme
Courts kind of relationships? How does this kind of fit in?
Speaker 6 (21:59):
There was a total man aster class from Justice Barrett.
There's a common jurisprudence to sign the sign in law
school called the case of the spool and Key and Explorers,
And there's this line about judges flapping their robes and
soaring off into a void of an uncharted future on
wings of judicial rhetoric. And that's basically Justice Jackson's whole philosophy.
Not only has she written more opinions as the freshman
justice than anybody in history, but she just won't stop
(22:21):
talking and her descent, she literally says she skips over
the governing statue because it's full of boring legalies. I mean,
same girl who wants to read statues? Hell, I don't.
But when you can just vibe your way through the
constitutional questions, like it's open mic night at the Supreme
Court and we come on. Meanwhile, Barrett calmly shows up
with a statutory scalpel and torches her. Barrett quotes Jackson
(22:44):
with her own words, like you think legal analysis is boring,
that's literally the job. It's not even legal opinion, it's
legal cinema. Barrett didn't just disagree. She hit her with
a rogue rat reality check. I mean, everyone from the
president on down is bound by the law. Translation, even you, Katanji,
no matter how passionate your podcast length the sense are
(23:05):
must be bound by the law.
Speaker 4 (23:07):
It was fulful'. I'm curious to see if Katanji will
recuse herself in a Gorsic v vibe because obviously she's
a running on the vibes. Speaking of vibes, I am
honestly shocked that we are still talking about this guy.
But the Maryland father who's just from Marylynd and he's
(23:30):
just a father who possibly beats his wife and is
a human trafficker also, but we will leave that aside.
This is the weirdest hill that lives continue to want
to die on for some reason, he was saying. According
to NPR and many other news outlets, he's basically tortured
in that El Salvador in prison and it was hell
on earth. Well named Bouquetla, the president of L Salvador
(23:52):
released some footage that says otherwise, let's play that clip here.
I think Glenn attached some sad music as well. Watch this.
I want to. I want to get to your thoughts
on whether or not this is torture. Check it out.
He has his own room, which is really interesting. Oh
(24:13):
look TV entertainment, very nice, routine health checks. This is
this is Oh he's fishing now, okay, exercise like all right, wait,
(24:36):
I think we've seen it up here. Wow, he's playing soccer. Okay, Stephanie,
I don't know, man, That honestly is a more video
watched that, the nicer it starts to look. I don't
know what do I have to do to be relegated
to a facility which I can fish and play soccer
with my friends and work out and get medical health
(24:58):
checks and also watch Netflix. How torturous was this?
Speaker 5 (25:03):
There's so much there to unpack. I don't even know
where to start. I mean, like, oh, the horrors. You
have time to work out, like I haven't worked out
in like two years. I have a two year old
and a three month old baby, Like, I don't have
time to do. All the things that Abrigo Garcia gets
to do must be nice to like sit down and
watch Netflix, apparently, gardening and all of these other things.
(25:23):
And you have to love the president of El Savador
for releasing this highlight reel, the audacity for Kilmar to
suggest that he's being beaten.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
I mean, I'm not.
Speaker 5 (25:34):
There, so maybe he is, but by the looks of
it doesn't really look like that. I mean, this is
the same guy that got to sit down and have
margaritas with a senator. And you have to ask, why
is it that the left always seems to side with criminals,
alleged criminals, terrorists and all the bad guys and all
the bad policy. It's like they're always on the wrong
(25:54):
side of every issue. It's so embarrassing. But they hate
Trump and his supporters so much that they literally have
no problem going in this direction, whether or not it
makes sense. So this would not be the hill I
would want to die on if I was a Democrat
and wanted to bring a reelection or elections in the future.
But you know, they do weird stuff and I can't
really explain it.
Speaker 4 (26:15):
I sorry, I was laughing because I was watching the
b roll as it was rolling through. Will the picture
of him holding the bird, like I have to pay
for my daughter to hold a bird where I go,
and it's just like this the mental Wellness Day. I
will say, though, Will, and I love your comment on this.
If they did make him watch the most recent iteration
(26:35):
of the snow White series or movie that I think
that actually constitutes his torture on so many different levels.
Your thoughts here with the night Boukal duncan on on
the Maryland Father.
Speaker 6 (26:49):
Yeah, watching the new snow White film definitely would constitute
cruel and unusual punishment and that would bring a constitutional
case on his behalf. But here he's holding parrots, playing chess.
It looks like he's got a personal trainer while he's
doing bench press. This guy's living better than the average
college student from these pictures. Now, god knows what's actually
happening behind the scenes, but this is a criminal indictment
(27:12):
of everything the Democrats have been talking about. I mean,
I'd love to go fishing and play chess all day.
That sounds like a great life. Yeah, kind of kind
of crazy.
Speaker 5 (27:23):
Kim On claims that he was losing weight because of
all the torture, and according to the president El Salvator,
he's actually gained weight and we saw videos of him
just like scarfing down food. He can't make this up,
and the left and the mainstream media gives this guy
a platform to run away with all of these I mean,
I don't know if they're all lies, but by the
looks of it, it's not looking good for his his narrative.
Speaker 4 (27:46):
You know, we get emails all the time. Why are
we keep why are we continuing to talk about this guy?
It just keeps getting funnier and funnier and funnier. So
I just I don't know. I can't help but not
Boke at this point. It's it's comical. And I hope,
hope they continue to pick this hill to die on
because that means I think we win more elections. William Domin, Whue, Donahue,
(28:06):
Stephanie Hamil, guys, thank you so much for joining us.
Really appreciate you taking the time. Any thanks. Coming up next, Hey,
we're going to check in with one of the frontlines
reporters for Tpusay bo Alford, bo Diddle. If you will
on the end of Pride Month, or at least this
year's Pride Month, and the scary encounters that he had
on the streets don't go away. We'll be right back
(28:26):
after the break.
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Speaker 4 (29:22):
Holy crap, what I don't have to know anywhere?
Speaker 6 (29:31):
You don't.
Speaker 4 (29:33):
I'm not holy Camera bo Alford is a Turning Point
content creator of works for frontlines as so many different things.
Is the guy on the streets, bo You know, all
I saw there was tolerance. Good to talk to you.
First of all, All I saw was tolerance, loving peace,
(29:54):
respect for other people's opinions. You know, why why did
you walk away from such a loving and kind conversation.
You know, It's funny.
Speaker 7 (30:03):
I was watching that back and they're like telling me
to leave, and normally I try and stand my ground,
and at the time I was actually not planning on leaving,
but then when they got the chains, I do have
to say they kind of won that fight. As soon
as I saw the chain, I was like, Okay, you
know what, I actually will leave.
Speaker 4 (30:21):
Yeah, And that's that's I would love to talk to
you about that because there's some really tense moments that
you have to deal with that kind of the the
guy on the streets talking to people, and I even
saw some some comments unfortunate. I'm sure you've seen him
and had to deal with this for the last couple
of days of like you're being a wimplay good, total baby,
Like I don't know, there's a safety element there, which
(30:43):
I would have booked it too, but what is that like, Actually,
you know what, before we get your answer, I'm gonna
play this clip forward. This is another confrontation where you
do kind of just kind of man up to the dude,
and I don't know, we'll have the viewers watch this,
and I want to get your reaction to kind of
what those tense moments are, like, who are.
Speaker 9 (31:06):
You with them?
Speaker 7 (31:07):
I'm not who you with? I'm just asking with who
just for.
Speaker 11 (31:13):
Them?
Speaker 4 (31:13):
I'm not with them.
Speaker 3 (31:15):
Well if you if you get out of my face,
you up.
Speaker 4 (31:21):
Happy pride another exchange with peace and tolerance. But okay,
So what what goes through your mind when that's happening
and what makes you decide you know this is a
fight or flight or stand by ground mode? What what
is that? So?
Speaker 7 (31:39):
What made me stand up to that guy is, first off,
it was one person as opposed to twenty, so that's big.
Second off, the only thing he had was his dong.
That was like the only thing, you know, It's not
like he had a backpack on. He didn't have a
duffel bag. I knew if he's gonna hit me, it's
(31:59):
he gonna be with his fist or with his dong.
So I was like, you know what if if he's
like this, then you know, I'm not scared of him.
But then, in contrary the clip in San Francisco that
got violent, two of them had metal chains. Another guy
had a black bag across his chest, so I didn't
(32:22):
know what was in there, and there was also like
seventeen people behind them. So even if I were to
take one or two of them, which you know I
probably could because I'm a giga chad, I can't get
twenty you know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (32:37):
I don't care who you are.
Speaker 7 (32:39):
You might think you're the toughest guy in the world,
but if you get put against twenty people, you're not
gonna survive that fight. And you know, I'm not arrogant
enough to think that I could either.
Speaker 4 (32:50):
Yeah, no, and yeah. It's kind of like a split
second decision making that you kind of got to have
to have. Unfortunately, I don't that, dude, I don't. I
don't even want to know what the full context of
that whole video. I know it's just short clips, but
I don't even really want to see what else that
guy was probably doing in that parade. This is This
is another one that I thought was really interesting too,
(33:11):
and I love the the questions, are the the different
paradoxes that you put people in of who this or
that or this is the other thing? Uh, watch watch this.
I know you've seen. I'm not telling you to watch it,
but viewers watched this. Uh this is this was viewed
what a couple million times of bo trying to figure
(33:31):
out who these people want in our country.
Speaker 7 (33:34):
Watch this, would you rather have in your country?
Speaker 11 (33:36):
Number one?
Speaker 7 (33:37):
Or number two? Number two?
Speaker 4 (33:38):
Number two?
Speaker 6 (33:40):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (33:40):
Number two, number two, number.
Speaker 4 (33:43):
Two, proud?
Speaker 11 (33:45):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (33:45):
Is there a third option where they're both not there?
Speaker 11 (33:49):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (33:49):
I'm not a fan of traders or fascists. Okay, so
let's just bring a deris into the country.
Speaker 4 (33:55):
I okay, So in case you're just listening to this
on any podcast, but was talking about a woman in
a magahad who happens to be his fiance and or
Osama bin Laan? Who do we want to have in
the country.
Speaker 2 (34:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (34:07):
I've been curious about this whole time since I've seen
that video. Do people know who Osama bin Laden is?
Let's start there. So they did.
Speaker 7 (34:16):
Yes, Now I can't say one hundred percent of them,
but a great majority, and I believe in that clip
they knew it was Osama bin Laden, which is insane.
You know, you always get told that conservatives are the extremists.
Speaker 4 (34:36):
You know, we don't call liberals.
Speaker 7 (34:38):
Fascists and Nazis, it's the other way around. But they're
the ones that would rather have a terrorist in the
country than my beautiful fiance who wouldn't hurt a fly.
Last night she had me turn off a scene of
a dog getting hurt in.
Speaker 4 (34:54):
A TV show.
Speaker 7 (34:55):
She's so innocent, yet she is the violent terror at extremist.
Speaker 4 (35:02):
Yeah, it's it's unbelievable. Here's I would love your thoughts
on this because I'm just genuinely curious. There's all of
this content out there with people saying ridiculous crazy things,
and we might get time for one more of those
that I thought was fascinating. But conservatis get accused of
nut picking, meaning that like, okay, you pick out the
one nut in the crowd and you kind of blow
(35:22):
that person up to I guess, kind of a swage
people of that being the only thing that's happening. How
easy is it to get content at these particular events.
Is it like okay, we got one clip or is
it pretty like yeah, you talk to ten people, you're
gonna get eight really weird crazy answers? What is the
(35:43):
actual kind of proportion of crazy people to seemingly normal
people that can function in society.
Speaker 7 (35:52):
Yeah, I'm so glad you brought that point up, because
that is a very good point. A lot of people
do think that we uh cherry pick which ones go in.
I'm not exaggerating to you when I say we interviewed
ten people asking them the same question. Ten of them
said Osama bin Laden. It's not like, oh, there's one
(36:13):
person that says Osama bin Laden.
Speaker 4 (36:14):
They're they're gonna get in the video.
Speaker 7 (36:16):
Now. I had ample choices to put online, and a
lot of them. If you go to my social you'll
see multiple interviews where they all say Osama bin Laden.
Speaker 4 (36:29):
Wow, that is unbelievable. Is that pretty ubiquitous across kind
of all of the different events that you go to,
because obviously, you know, you ask different questions, you talk
to different people. How likely is it if you're if
you're asking somebody with a microphone a certain question that's
gonna make them sound like a crazy lip.
Speaker 7 (36:47):
How often is it that they actually are Oh, I
would say ninety five percent of the time. There's been
a there's been a few based Black Pride goers who
are like actually Trump supporters, which was awesome and you know,
I'll high five them, But a great majority is just
(37:12):
insane and will be the most radical leftist. I would
rather have a terrorist in the country than someone in
a maga hat who just so happens to be beautiful.
Speaker 4 (37:23):
Yeah, that's that's wild, because I think we'll probably get
a bunch of emails here saying, hey, stop showing all
this crazy stuff in it. In my opinions, you kind
of have to because these people are more around where
you are than you think, which is kind of scary
to think about. I am going to play this last clip, Glenn.
This is in clip one. Get a brief response. We're
(37:46):
going to ask if we're allowed to play this and
if you if you see it, then you'll see it.
If we cut to commercial right now, that means we
got denied. So either watch this or we'll be back
after the break clip.
Speaker 7 (37:59):
Will It's the weirdest thing about conservatives. They're all sexually repressed.
Speaker 11 (38:06):
What do you mean by that?
Speaker 12 (38:07):
They like to pretend that they don't want to, but
then their wives, their husbands and their mistresses behind everyone's backs,
and then they like to pretend that they're virgins to
the front.
Speaker 7 (38:15):
Okay, all right, last question for you. What's the weirdest
thing about yourself?
Speaker 12 (38:22):
I like being peed on?
Speaker 7 (38:25):
Okay, I wasn't expecting that answer.
Speaker 12 (38:27):
Do you ask me what is the weirdest thing about myself.
I'm a fimboy and I like people to pee on them.
Speaker 4 (38:34):
Is that the weirdest answer you've got? Bo I hope
it is. It's up there, Okay, I'll say that.
Speaker 7 (38:41):
I don't know if it's the weirdest one I've got.
I would have to go back in the archive, but
it's definitely up there, especially the shock factor.
Speaker 4 (38:49):
Jeez. Okay, well, poll for thanks for joining us. Really
appreciate you taking the time today, but also to all
of these stuff that you do on the streets. It's
just highly entertaining and high troubling at the same time.
You are hilarious and horrifying. Horror farious is the new
word that I'm gonna coin. Thanks for doing what you do, man,
I appreciate it.
Speaker 7 (39:09):
Hey, thanks for having me on. I'm gonna go to therapy.
Speaker 4 (39:11):
Now, yeah, as you should. All right, Well, so that
was that, you know. Coming up after the break, we're
gonna play some more tame clips from around the internet
and also possibly even read some emails tpt at tpusa
dot com in case you went to break a couple
of minutes early. Who knows that maybe that happened, Depending
(39:31):
whether or not we got approval. Don't go away regardless.
We'll be right back after the break. Welcome back to
(39:54):
turning Point tonight. We're together. We are charting the course
of America's cultural comeback. Remember, as always, you can email
the show any time you want. At TPUSA dot com.
You can email whether you agree or whether you're wrong.
What do you think about the big beautiful bill where
you think the culture is going? So many things that
you can email us anytime you want TBT at TPUSA
dot com. You can also go to TBSA to get
tickets for all the fanta fascinating events that we put on,
(40:15):
which includes SaaS that's coming up this week. So if
you can get to Tampa, get some tickets and see
what I think is the greatest lineup at least in
the last several months of big conservative speakers. And I
only say that because Americafest was just a couple months ago.
TPUSA dot com you can find out all the information
without further ado. Let me get to this clip because
(40:36):
it's rather long and a little bit of time to
discussion afterwards. Watch this. This is libs being crazy and
doing lib things.
Speaker 13 (40:42):
Am I overreacting? I left my therapist for political reasons.
I said, I understand this is personal and possibly inappropriate,
but I need to know if you voted for Trump.
I don't want to receive life advice, be vulnerable, and
be treated by someone with such a drastically different set
of morals and valleys than I have. She said it
shouldn't matter who she voted for. I said, in this case,
for me, it does. She said she would not tell
(41:03):
me who she voted for, but she's conflicted by many
of the issues. She said she's conflicted about Black Lives
Matter movement because it was violent, and she said she's
conflicted about social programs because she doesn't want people taking
advantage of them. You're against social programs, but you're a therapist.
I told her that pretty much. My answer answers my question,
and I'm thankful for our time, but I'm sorry. I
don't think I can continue working with you. She got
(41:23):
pretty angry. She said she was disappointed and teered up
a bit. I felt like kind of a dick. But
I can't justify paying money for treatment from someone I
fundamentally disagree with about being about what being a good
person means. I don't know, am I overreacting.
Speaker 4 (41:37):
Yes, actually, yes you are, and to the extent that
it's able to be discussed in this short period of time.
There's too much therapy. And I say that as a
guy who's married to a therapist who my wife would
also say it. There's too much therapy going on, and
the majority, the overwhelming majority, is coming from libs who
(41:57):
are driving people into needing more things therapy. That is
the problem here in its totality. Obviously there's much more
to unpack here than we don't have time for. But
the bottom line of this, yes, you are overreacting, and
maybe maybe the problems that you're having in your life
is because your worldview is so skewed by a bunch
of freaking live therapists, crazy and wild. Hope to see
(42:20):
you at SaaS. If you are at SaaS, come say hi.
We have a whole turning point tonight booth that's gonna
do it for us. Charlie is gonna take us out
with the best of the Charlie Kirkshow we'll see tomorrow,
same time, saying place, God bless America. What a weekend.
Speaker 2 (42:39):
President Donald Trump signed the Big Beautiful Bill on Independence
Day on July fourth, signaling a massive legislative accomplishment, tax cut,
no tax on tips, no tax and overtime, no tax
on social security, huge investment in border security, one hundred
and seventy five billion dollars for ICE. We're going to
(43:01):
talk more about the profundity and the importance of this bill,
but it is it is of great urgent necessity that
we cover what is coming next. And yes, we are
going to talk about Epstein. We're also going to have
live coverage from the awful and the unspeakable tragedy happening
(43:22):
in Kerr County and near Hunt, Texas. Just a national
tragedy with the flooding issue in Texas. But you would
think that, hey, we get one hundred and seventy five
billion dollars for ICE, we're going to get mass deportations.
We're going to be able to have now the largest
deportation effort ever. Yes, in theory, but in practice, there's
(43:47):
something else afoot. Literally, the day before President Donald Trump
was signing the big beautiful bill, I got a couple
phone calls from people that you would call members of
the ruling class. A lot of money and a lot
of connections, they said, Charlie isn't this amazing. We passed
the big beautiful bill. I said, oh, yes, sir, and
(44:08):
they said, now we need mass amnesty. What I said,
we haven't even signed the bill yet. They said, yeah,
you know, these deportations. We're going to lose the mid
terms because of the deportations. The people on the right,
they'll understand, and we need to come to the middle
and we need to legalize the twenty five million people
(44:29):
here in this country.
Speaker 4 (44:30):
I was speechless.
Speaker 2 (44:31):
You see here, I am actually thinking the naive We're
going to sign this big beautiful bill and we're actually
going to get mass deportations on and erupted from an
asymmetrical attack. So we have somewhere between twenty to fifty
million illegal aliens in this country. We don't actually know
(44:52):
the numbers. These are all guestimates. These are all just approximations.
There is a movement of foot as I am doing
this broadcast. And this is bigger than anything with Epstein.
This is bigger than anything with tax cuts. It is
happening right now in Washington, DC. And I can say
this from first hand experience, that people are pushing President
(45:16):
Trump for amnesty. They are pushing him for mass legalization
of illegals. Now, President Donald Trump, of course would never
push for amnesty. But President Donald Trump said something at
a rally on July third, and my phone lit up
like you wouldn't imagine. President Donald Trump was talking about
(45:37):
potentially doing a bipartisan compromise deal for illegals that have
stolen Social Security numbers, that are illegally domiciling themselves here
in the country, that are all felons. Every single one
of them are felons. They're just not yet indicted felons.
But if they're here illegally, you're a felon. It's against
(45:57):
federal law. We've gone through all the different federal law
that you break by being here. And this is President
Donald Trump speaking at the Iwall rally saying that we
might need to do some form He didn't use the
word amnesty, but some form of soft amnesty. And I
could tell you now through other reporting that I've been
(46:18):
able to do in phone calls, there is a major
push right now to do a bipartisan amnesty deal, a
major push. People are trying to push the President, Hey,
you got the money for ice, now we need to
go move to the middle on immigration. Play cut two fifty.
Speaker 14 (46:33):
Eight people have worked for a farm on a farm
for fourteen fifteen years and they get thrown out pretty viciously,
and we can't do it. We got to work with
the farmers and people that have hotels and leisure properties
to We're gonna work with them, and we're gonna work
very strong and smart, and we're gonna put you in charge.
We're gonna make you responsible. And I think that that's
(46:54):
gonna make a lot of people happy. Now, serious radical
right people who I also happen to like a lot.
They may not be quite as happy, but they'll understand,
won't they Do you think they'll understand that you're the
one that brought this whole situation up. Brooke Rollins brought
it up, and she said, so, we have a little problem.
The farmers are losing a lot of people. And we
figured it out and we have some great stuff being written,
(47:17):
and let the farmers be responsible.
Speaker 2 (47:22):
Let the farmers be responsible. Look, I trust President Trump's
instincts one hundred percent here, but there is a group
of people that are pushing President Trump very hard to
stop the deportation effort and to try to have some
sort of a come to the table moment of a
bipartisan compromise that we need to try to figure out
(47:43):
how to make these people have a pathway to citizenship. Now,
this is not, by any means a knock on President Trump.
It is a knock on people that are trying to
pressure President Trump and pressure him hard. We don't know
any of the details, but President Trump did say that
the radical right people that he has a soft spot
(48:07):
for wouldn't like this. Hello, Hi, I'm one of those
radical right people, and I want to know what I'm
not going to like because of all the different stuff
that's in front of us. If you want to break
our coalition go and push amnesty that right, there would
be a complete collapse of everything that we have worked for.
Speaker 4 (48:27):
Everything.
Speaker 2 (48:28):
So we don't know any details, but it looks as
if President Trump might be in preliminary discussions, and I
could tell you that there are many different discussions that
I've had with people, and they are pushing it hard
to create some kind of amnesty proposal aims specifically at
farm laborers in the United States, but it's more than that.
It could be hotels, it could be leisure properties. We've
(48:49):
heard the arguments about this for years well, the crops
are going to rotten the fields, they'll be starvation. But
here's the main thing that you need to know. We've
tried this before. This is not some sort of new thing.
And by the way, just so we are clear, I
went to an event this last weekend in San Diego Ja.
D Vance was there and another person came up and said, Charlie,
(49:11):
do you know what we need? We need to have
some sort of pathway citizenship for twenty five people. I said,
are you guys on all some sort of group chat
or something? Are you guys all just coordinating? We have
not even forty eight hours of the largest investment in
border security, deportation and ice. And why are you pitching
me on mass amnesty? What is that all about.
Speaker 4 (49:32):
There's a lot of.
Speaker 2 (49:32):
Reasons for this, and one of which is the corporate
class is deathly afraid that they might actually have to
hire Americans and pay a higher wage. Somehow, other countries
are able to grow food without imported surf labor. How
are they able to do that? I don't know. Apparently
we have built so many parts of our economy to
be reliant on foreign criminal invaders that have come into
(49:55):
this country.
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