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SEGMENT 2: Schools Brace for Parental Opt Out
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Speaker 1 (00:08):
Lib News says Ice picked up children from fields. Hey,
what were children doing in those fields? Also, government schools
are bracing for this semester's parents opt outs, which we're
all really appreciating. And Barbie has a new disease for
some reason. All that more coming up on this episode
of Turning Point Tonight. My name is Joe Bob. Thanks
(00:29):
so much for tuning in. Together, we are charting the
course of America's cultural comeback. This is Turning Point Tonight. Now,
before we get to those stories in our fantastic panel,
we gotta get to this. New polling is out from
Pew Research that shows some really interesting ways that other
countries are thinking about the United States, most notably our
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neighbors to the north and the south. Canadians and Mexicans
answered a Pew Research poll in a bizarre way. The
poll was seeking to find out of twenty five different countries,
who was their greatest ally and who was their greatest threat.
Now Canada, at least because we're talking about those two
nations to their credits, said the majority of them said, well,
(01:12):
the US is the greatest ally. There were also half
of the country's polled said yeah, the US is is
their greatest ally. Now, I don't know why that wasn't
one hundred percent, because we're the biggest, the best, and
we're gonna be the ones who come and save your
butt if anything goes wrong, for better or worse. That's
just the reality of it. I don't know why it's
not one hundred percent, but at least it was half.
(01:32):
But the disturbing and very odd thing is also a
majority in both Mexico and Canada said that, well, the
United States is our greatest threat. First things, First, Mexicans
in Mexico. Over the last ten years and estimated two
hundred to two hundred fifty thousand Mexicans were killed by
the cartel. So maybe the greatest threat to Mexico is
(01:57):
Mexico and hey, syrup guzzlers up to the north in
America's hat. Article five of NATO says that we have
to defend you in case anybody attacks you, and considering
that we're not gonna attack you, maybe we also aren't
the greatest threat. I don't know what these people are
thinking other.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
Than Trump mean.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
He send mean tweets and makes fun of us and
calls us the fifty first state, which by the way,
is still hilarious and we should still do it. But
the idea that these countries think that we are the
biggest threat to them is hilarious. Let's bring in our
fantastic panel for the day, Steven Gardner's host of The
Stephen Gardner Show, and new time guest Liz beneath you.
(02:37):
I think I pronounced that right. Hopefully I did. Guys,
thanks for joining us. Really appreciate you taking the time.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
Absolutely, thank you, Steven.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
I want to start with you here.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
This is ironic in so many ways. But where is
this coming from? Is it strictly the Orange man bad
syndrome that's affecting both Mexico and Canada.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
You know, I would have thought the greatest enemy would
be Justin Trudeau and the cartel.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
So I'm there with you.
Speaker 4 (03:07):
But you know, obviously half of the Canadians they see
Donald Trump as being a big issue instead of the
fact that he liberated you from Justin Trudeau. Of course,
America is still a great neighbor to Canada.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
I think that they are overreacting.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
We would come in and save their biscuits, just like
we are right now, like we do a lot of
business with Canada. If we were to cut that off,
it would be very bad. So maybe this is the issue.
Canadian people are so kind and polite, like if you
bump into them, they apologize. That's how nice they are.
(03:45):
Now imagine bumping into somebody from New York. They're just
like they're having Donald Trump shock syndrome.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
You know, you bring up a fantastic point because people
use this to describe New York and California. They say, hey,
people in the Upper East Coast of the United States,
if you if you have a flat tire, they'll they'll
curse you out, but they'll help you change the tire.
In California they'll go, oh no, I'm so sorry, and
then they won't help you at all. So I'd rather
be harsh and nice, harsh and helpful, rather than nice
(04:16):
and completely useless. Liz, Mexico is like it's it's it's
not now, but a couple of years ago it ranked
second in the most dangerous countries on Earth, second only
to Syria. But yet the United States is their greatest threat.
So many, the majority of the country country believes what
is going on there, Oh well, that I'm trying.
Speaker 5 (04:37):
To figure out, because if the United States is their
biggest threat. Then why do they keep trying to come here, yeah, away.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
From my threat?
Speaker 5 (04:45):
Like I'm not gonna go run up to Michael Myers.
Speaker 6 (04:48):
He's trying to murder me.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
I'm not entirely sure how that's that makes any sense
on any on any level whatsoever. Things that I also
don't know how to make sense of last week, and
I know this is not necessarily news of the day,
but we were in Tampa all week. We were talking
to some fantastic people at the Turning Point Student Action
Summit and didn't get to this story. But the ICE
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agents that did a raid which was sanctioned by a
search warrant for a criminal search warrant on a marijuana
farm in Cameruo, California. A bunch of the news media
Stephen was talking about, well, there was children there and
how could they do that with children? Their ten youths,
one young is fourteen years old were wrapped up in
(05:34):
the ice raids, to which I and pretty much every
conservative commentator goes, why were their children working in the
fields of that kind of sounds like slave laborer, which
is not okay, Steve, Why did one they miss that?
And two there's so many other things going on with this.
If you have any other comments about this whole raid,
I would love to hear them.
Speaker 4 (05:56):
You know one of my favorite rap songs by Vanilla
ICE's Ice Ice Baby.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
I mean, why are babies?
Speaker 4 (06:02):
Why our babies out on the farm picking marijuana. And
then you've got the mainstream media, the Democrats and Gavin
Gruesome saying that this is going to affect America's food safety,
that they are the largest producer of agriculture. These guys
aren't picking strawberries, they're not picking almonds for your almond milk.
(06:25):
This is marijuana. And this company, this company is known
for missing payroll regularly. So now you've got these immigrant children,
some of them don't even have parents, that they're probably
paying slave labor to. To me, this is just so
disgusting and the fact that they're trying to pin this
on the food safety of America. Last I checked, nobody
(06:50):
is eating marijuana to survive.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
They're using it for a good time.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
I was good to say.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
If you didn't add that to survive there, I'd be like, ah,
I might push back. Not a good thing, but still
not entirely sure. The farmer also, by the way, that
owns the ranch, according to California Disclosure Reports, has donated
ten thousand dollars to the Gavin Newsom campaign in twenty eighteen.
No shock there, Liz. This I think highlights kind of
(07:16):
another big issue.
Speaker 7 (07:17):
You know.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
Libs are all about like, well, we got to protect
the illegal immigrants, why not protect the kids. If you remember,
the Biden administration just kind of lost three hundred and
twenty thousand illegal migrant children who are in the country.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
The kind of lost track of them.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
Turns out some of them are working in these farms,
which I can almost guarantee you are not abiding by
any of these state regulated laws regarding miners working. How
come it seems like they care more about illegals than
they care about the protection of illegals, and they care
about children.
Speaker 5 (07:52):
They don't care about the protection of illegals. They care
about the protection of cheap labor. And here's the thing
with the children, they have nimble finger so it's easier
for them to get into the marijuana plants and stuff.
So I think they're all happy, especially the liberals in California.
Speaker 8 (08:05):
They all need their weed.
Speaker 5 (08:06):
They're all stressed out about everything, so that's why they
don't care.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
I just yeah, I think it's a funny and ironic.
It's not funny. The whole situation is bad, but it's
just the irony is just so juicy, especially in the
state of California, and I think Governor Newsom is on
the wrong side of this politically.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
Stephen, did you have another thought?
Speaker 3 (08:24):
Yeah, Joe, Bob.
Speaker 4 (08:25):
I mean, these these liberals, the only way that they're
able to keep their Trump derangement syndrome under control is
to just have a little bit of marijuana. And they've
got to keep it affordable, you know, high inflation under Biden.
They've got to have that cheap weed. And so they've
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got to have children with no parents. Again, this is disgusting.
I don't mean to make light of it, but the
fact that they're defending this is kind of like defending
that Brego Garcia guy who was trafficking children beating his wife,
and then they were pretending, oh, he's a great guy, Like,
can you just defend the right group of people?
Speaker 1 (09:06):
No, Steven, I'm pretty sure he was just a father
in Maryland. He is the Maryland father, nothing more than that,
not a wife be of a human traffick and illegal
speaking of Libs doing just classic lib things. I recognize
that this is really only affecting a geographically small place. Obviously,
population wise, New York City is a huge city. But
(09:29):
former governor disgraced to slash resigned Governor Cuomo said that
he will be running for mayor as an independent against
Mam Danny. But there's a catch here that I think
is really funny and kind of interesting. He says that
by September, if there's not a clear winner, or whoever
the clear winner is, every other independent should drop out
(09:49):
of the race so that they can defeat the communist
Mam Danny over there in New York Stephen one, do
you think he will abide by his own rules? And
Eric Adams, the current mayor who's also running as an independent,
has basically said, yeah, Pound Sin, I'm not dropping out.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
You think this play is gonna work.
Speaker 4 (10:09):
I mean, he's already upset that this other guy came
in like he's gotten the name Cuomo right. Unfortunately, he
tarnished it by being a little bit handsy with some
of the women in his office, So that's on him.
But you know, asking people to drop out, I think
it's just his way of saying, I literally don't have
(10:31):
a chance of winning this unless I get a bunch
of other people's stuff. So once again, these Democrats, they
don't run on good policy. They run on getting votes
in really clever ways.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
Yeah, clever or conniving is probably yeah, how things are
done in that part of the country. Liz, do you
think anybody's going to follow these arbitrary rules set by
the guy who is hoping that these rules give him
the boost he needs to not abide by them?
Speaker 5 (11:00):
You know, I mean, this is a mayoral race in
New York City. This isn't like a fifth grade, you
know election. Nobody has to do anything.
Speaker 8 (11:08):
That Cuomo wants.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
He did a terrible job.
Speaker 5 (11:11):
He's going to do another terrible job, and why should
anyone listen to him.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
Yeah, it's it's one of those two where you like, hey,
we're all going to sign this pack. I also, you know,
this is just me especially it's easier to Monday morning
quarterback this one. But when people were saying we're going
to sign this pack that all the conservatives and then
Trump would go, I'm.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Not signing that.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
It just kind of it is exactly how these things
always work, especially if you're not the front runner trying
to get these things started. Listens even will be back
right after the break to discuss parents are going to
be opting their kids out of certain lessons. The Supreme
Court said that is okay, and Barbie has a new
disease which doesn't really make any sense.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
All that more coming up after the break. Don't go away.
We'll be right back after this.
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Welcome back to Turning Point Tonight. We're together. We are
charting the course of America's cultural comeback. It is time
to check in with Turning Points White House correspondent Monica
page that we actually ran into in real life, because
a lot of this stuff is you know, video conference.
But Monica was great to see you in face to
face real time.
Speaker 7 (12:53):
Yeah, likewise, it was great to see you guys. I mean,
I feel like we spend so much time over the
cameras that when we see each other in person, one
big celebration. So it was really nice.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
It is, it is. That's what I think.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
One of the it's kind of intangible, but one of
the best things about turning point events is you kind
of get to put a name to a face. Even
though you know the face of a person, you get
to meet him in person. It's that's why everybody should
go to all the turning point events. Everybody watching you
should make your way to one of the bigger turning
point events. And that's all you get, Manica. Big stuff,
big stuff, as there always is. President Trump is meeting
(13:25):
with the NATO Secretary General there, who previously made news
for calling him daddy now jokingly but also was serious
in the fact that, like, hey, you know, credit where
credits due. Trump is doing a great job. What's coming
out of that meeting?
Speaker 7 (13:39):
Yeah, of course, President Trump's starting off the week on
a very strong note and really showing who's in charge.
Giving homage to that daddy comment, and that it's very
interesting President Trump's saying that Russia should be ending the
war in fifty days or else you're going to be
facing economic sanctions of one hundred percent tariffs. So now
(13:59):
this is the place rushing in a very interesting position
where if it doesn't in the war, I guess you
can be expecting crazy sanctions. Very short conversation, kind of
a short meeting this afternoon, and the President also holding
a Faith Office luncheon as well. So of course, the
President keeping a very busy schedule, offer the very strong
start at the White House here on Monday.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
Yep, And like you said, it is Monday.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
What does the rest of the week look like for
the White House and for the President at the White
House and also outside in the United States of America.
I don't know why the country as a whole, but yes,
the United States of America.
Speaker 7 (14:32):
Well, in addition to those Russia sanctions looming, of course,
the President said that they will be sending more weapons
to NATO to sent over to Ukraine. And that's also
looking that at the White House today as well. But
looking ahead to tomorrow, the President is actually traveling to
Pittsburgh where he'll be with Senator McCormick, where they will
be announcing huge artificial intelligence and energy investments, about seventy
(14:55):
billion dollars worth of investments towards new power grids, towards
new AI data centers and AI training programs. And we
can definitely expect to see over sixty executives of black Rock,
Excellent Mobile, and tons of other energy companies as well
coming together at Carnegie Mellon University to talk about this
(15:16):
huge amount of growth that this could be in the
energy and artificial intelligence sector. It's expected to create thousands
of new jobs right here at home in our own country.
So it's going to be a very big announcement, and
I think it's one that is going to make a
lot of people very happy, especially with these new jobs.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
No, Monica, we didn't talk about this before him.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
But I'm just curious kind of the overall mood, the vibe,
if you will, as the kids say, obviously somewhat of
a contentious weekend with the White House and the DOJ
and Pambondi and President Trump's and any backs.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
Or what is the mood like is it is.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
It seem to be a little bit frazzled or is
it kind of business as usual?
Speaker 7 (15:54):
Well, I let that you ask this question, Jobob, because
it does feel like a mix of feelings. I mean,
hand you do have kind of the elephant in the room,
if you will, And on the other hands, you still
kind of want to celebrate the successes of this Trump
administration and all the things that he's trying to push forward.
And it really does seem like the President wants to
highlight all the new and innovative policies that he's pushing forward.
(16:15):
He doesn't want to talk about the Epstein client list.
He wants to move past that. He's kind of surprised
that people are still talking about it. But I do
still kind of hear along pebble Beach reporting about the
Epstein client list and the latest developments regarding that. But
it's very clear this White House wants to move forward
and still wants to highlight all the things that the
President wants to accomplish, especially after the passage of the
(16:35):
One Big, Beautiful Bill.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
Yeah, it'll be really interesting to see how that story
either fizzles or gains momentum, or just kind of stays
the same. And we'll all find out together in the
Futuremodica Baye during What's White House correspondent.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
Thanks so much for joining us. We'll see tomorrow.
Speaker 7 (16:49):
Thanks you guys, see tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
An article I believe in ABC News or one of
your big market, pretty left leaning mainstream media outlets said
government schools. They use the term public schools, but I
use the term government schools because we want to make
sure that people know, Hey, the government does things and
it's usually bad. Government schools are bracing for the impact
of parents opting out their kids from certain lessons. Now,
(17:13):
we've all remembered the Supreme Court case that said, hey, yeah,
you can do this if there is religious exception, especially
regarding the lgbt Q two plus two for all of
the letters lesson plans, you can say, hey, I'm gonna
pull my kid out of that class.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
They said that the schools have.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
To tell the parents, hey, we're doing this, and the
parents have the opportunity to go all right, well I'm out.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
Let's bring it back our panel.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
Stephen and Liz here, Stephen, this is this is really
interesting because, well, let me read you some of the
comments from people who hate this sort of thing, that think,
oh my gosh, this is terrible that parents are going
to be able to pull their kids out of the class.
One of the attorneys that is opposed to this said this,
and this could lead to more educators self censoring shelby
(18:00):
books and lessons and pretending some already marginalized students sorry,
preventing the marginalized students from being seen and acknowledged, to
which I say, great, that sounds good. That the teachers
are gonna self censor and not put the wacky doodle
stuff in front of elementary school's eyes.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
That sounds fantastic. What do you think the outcome of
this is going to be, Stephen?
Speaker 1 (18:22):
Will we just start seeing more parents opt out of schools,
or will the pushback be so great that more parents
should say, all right, I'm out of the whole government
school thing as a whole.
Speaker 4 (18:33):
I think most people depend on the government school system.
So I think more parents are just going to become
vocal about this, and they're going to be pushing to
educate their own children when it comes to sexuality, when
it comes to gender, when it comes to adult themes.
I mean, remember when the Democrats were throwing a giant
fit over not being able to have openly adult conversations
(18:57):
with kindergarteners like come on like their brains are not
fully formed. Why is a kindergartener being told what a
mom and dad or a dad and a dad and
a mom and a mom are doing behind closed doors.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
It doesn't make any sense. So I think that this
is great.
Speaker 4 (19:12):
I mean, I remember, like the news coverage that parents
would go in and read some of the trashy books
and they would say, you can't say that at a
school board meeting. And they say, well, then why is
my child allowed to read it in the privacy of
your library?
Speaker 3 (19:28):
Get it out or I'm gonna get my kid out.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
That sounds like Pastor John Amachuku Turning Point contributor who's
going at those meetings and just say, hey, look, I'm
just reading you what is on the book in your
second grade classroom.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
You can't tell me to stop. Liz.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
You know, part of the argument here is that, okay,
so where do you draw the line? And this is
where this is where I think ultimately parents, you know,
over the course of time, and I don't like that
this is going to be the case, but I think
parents will just start saying, hey, I got to pull
my kids out of school, and I would hope that's
the case. And I understand this financial restrictions that come
with that sort of thing, But the argument would be, well, okay,
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well what counts as a religious belief? If you say, hey,
my child doesn't believe in math, which some of your
more woke people do, they get to be exempt from
this class and you have to give them an a.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
How do you think this is going to.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
Work out in a whole as a whole, especially going
forward when people start to exploit the system.
Speaker 5 (20:27):
I mean, I think there's a fairer lion here. I
know that a lot of liberals say that math is
now racist, but still, you know, teach kids math, but
when it comes to teaching kids about sexuality, about gender
studies at fifth or sixth grade, or not fifth or
sixth grade when they're five or six years old, then
there's a boundary there.
Speaker 6 (20:47):
A lot of people that I know, a lot of.
Speaker 5 (20:48):
Parents that I know, have chosen to opt out of
sending their kids to normal public schools, and they've done
a lot of small pod learning for multiple reasons. One
they don't want their kids learning anything whoe for weird.
And the other reason is a lot of them don't
want their kids to be forced to take all of
these vaccines.
Speaker 6 (21:03):
So I think there's gonna.
Speaker 5 (21:04):
Be a lot more homeschooling, small pod learning and where
parents do have.
Speaker 6 (21:10):
A bit more control.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
I hope to see, hope, hope that this works out
in everyone's best interest, and maybe the government schools just say, hey, yeah,
maybe let's just lay off of this, or else we're
gonna have some bad outcomes. Uh, this is just a
funny story. There's no real political relevance here. It's more
of a cultural thing.
Speaker 6 (21:27):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
Stephen Mattel has released a new Barbie, but now this
Barbie has type one diabetes. I understand what they're trying
to do. They're trying to play to the crowd that says, well,
what about the kids with you know, type one diabetes. However,
I don't understand the point of telling people that a
plastic doll has a disease that you can't see. Oh,
(21:50):
this doll has a pulmonarily enlarged artery, this doll has
crippling depressions.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
It's still a doll. It doesn't age the physical appearance
at all.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
Uh, what's going on here at Mattel with their Barbie
new release?
Speaker 4 (22:07):
I mean the Kendall, you know, just has a flat patch.
It doesn't even have the male genitilia. So I guess
now they're saying, Okay, we can't, we can't go down
that route, so we can at least put a port. Now,
Type one diabetes, that's different. I get it, they have it.
There's not much you can do. Type two diabetes. Let's
(22:27):
not normalize that, let's not make that common. But the
one that I was more concerned about Joe Bob is the.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
Doctor Fauci Barbie.
Speaker 4 (22:36):
Like, come on, why are you putting this guy on
a pedestal. Millions and millions of people died and you're
trying to make him into a hero by putting him on.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
A pedestal next to Barbie. No way, I'm out.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
I have not seen the Doctor Fauci Barbie, but that
is insane.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
And to your point, yeah, type one diabetes, you know,
it's kind of born with it. And I'm totally fair
if you want to sell the like accessory part, really fine,
but a whole new Barbie. It just doesn't make any
sense to me why they would do that. Oh, I'm
gonna stop myself from making another unfortunate joke that may
get me in trouble but Liz, your thoughts on the
(23:12):
diabetic barbie.
Speaker 5 (23:15):
I'm just hoping that wanted to make like a seed
oil free barbie. Maybe, but I think we're probably gonna
get like HIV barbie before we get seed oil free barbie. Unfortunately.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
Yeah, I uh, I'm not too optimistic about that, but
I do think that would be funny. Actually, you know what,
who's stopping us from going into the stores and not
doing anything specifically but picking up a bar and saying,
this is a seed oil free barbie and this is
a uh doesn't use lotion and instead use beef tallow
barbie because it doesn't It doesn't make any Yeah, it
(23:48):
doesn't make any difference. And that's I don't know. The
the the attempt to be accepted by everybody all the time,
by especially big industry always continues to fascinate me. Uh, Stephen, Liz,
thank you guys so much for joining us. Really appreciate
you taking the time.
Speaker 3 (24:03):
Yes, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
Come out next year.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
On Turning Points Tonight, we've got a fascinating clip from
Alex Clark's Culture Apothecary podcast. Don't go away, We'll be
right back after the break.
Speaker 9 (24:23):
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to weaponize, but to organize on these college campuses.
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and last year we sought payoff. Our grassroots army is
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Speaker 11 (24:56):
So who did you reach out to for support in
those early days of sobriety? I mean, were you doing aa?
Speaker 6 (25:01):
Was it friends? Was it family? Early days? It was
all online mostly at first. I was like before I
even got sober, I was just trying to find one
person that I could say, like I think I might
have a problem and I'm not sure what to do.
But I was so so so embarrassed, Like I couldn't
tell anyone because I thought people are going to think
I'm a bad mom, People are going to judge my faith,
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people are going to think, you know, they don't want
their kids around me. You know, I was just blowing
it up into this massive, big deal, so afraid to
tell anyone, and so I would just I would sort
of reach out to people if I saw someone talking
about it, might send a DM or something. But ultimately,
at the beginning of the pandemic, I finally joined a
group called the Luckiest Club and that is like an
(25:46):
online support group similar to AA. It's not AA, though,
and they started having meetings four to five times a day,
and four to.
Speaker 11 (25:55):
Five times a day because it was the pandemic.
Speaker 6 (25:57):
It was pandemic, but they still have them. They still
have them four to five times a day because they
want it to be accessible to anyone. And they have
themed meetings.
Speaker 11 (26:06):
Okay, so you can pick one of the five.
Speaker 6 (26:08):
Yeah, you can go to all. Some people do like
in the beginning of their sobriety where they're just like
I'm just hanging on by thread. They're like, come to
all the meetings.
Speaker 11 (26:15):
And so is this just all women?
Speaker 6 (26:17):
No, it's men and women. Okay, I would say there's
definitely more women. It was started by a woman named
Laura McCowan who is sort of a leader in the
space and sort of like the non traditional sobriety space
that's not AA. And there's a lot more places like
that now than there used to be back when I
first started thinking about this, even gosh, ten twelve years ago,
there was almost nothing Like I would look online and
(26:39):
be like, well, I can't go to an AA meeting.
That's insane. I was terrified. I'm like, I can go
to a building and walk into a room. There was
no way I was going to do that. And that's
why I think these online meetings where you can you
can hop on the zoom, you don't have to turn
your camera on, you don't have to talk, and you
can just sort of like be there. And for me
that was huge because I all of a sudden realized, oh,
(27:02):
I'm actually not that abnormal, and there's people just like
me in this room, and you don't have to, you know,
lose custody of your children and get a DUI and
be thrown in jail. To be like, I don't want
to do this anymore with my life. Alcohol is affecting
me in a negative way, and I have a choice
on whether or not I want that anymore.
Speaker 11 (27:20):
How in the world did you bring this up with
your church, because to me, that would be the most
terrifying of all.
Speaker 6 (27:24):
It was definitely God working. So my pastor had come
to me. I went to a small church at the time,
and they said, we're doing this series about the way
God has moving in our life. I don't remember specifically
what they said, but they said, we're wondering if you
can talk about, you know, something God has saide in
your life. And I had been sober for like five months,
four months at the time, and I just thought, oh no, yeah,
(27:44):
I felt it. I felt you know, I felt like
God was pushing me, say you should talk about this,
and so I said, okay, I got to talk to
you guys about something. I kind of like just dumped
the whole story on the phone. I was like sobbing.
I had never talked about it openly and I couldn't
talk talk about it without crying at the time. And
They're like, this is amazing, we want you to share,
(28:06):
and so it's like okay. So ultimately I did go
in front of my church and share my story through
lots of tears. I still was. It was so the
beginning of so raw, like I couldn't talk about it
because I I just it was the first time I
had really expressed, you know, And so I did it
and it was amazing. I had people coming up to
me after church, you know, confessing not just alcohol, but
(28:28):
like multiple different kinds of addictions and issues, And was
that overwhelming? It was because you're just like, oh, I
don't know how to like you want to help everyone,
And sometimes I feel that online as well, because I
want to help everyone, but you can't be the best
friend to everyone, you know what I mean. But if
somebody is reaching out to me, like, I'm never not
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going to reach out back. And so anyway, and you know,
I made friends with a woman who sort of secretly
came to me wanted to talk with me about her problem.
We had this great conversation and we're still friends, we're
still in touch. And then the pandemic happened and I
relapsed started drinking again, and I thought, I can oh
my nobody at church can ever know this. I can
never show my face again. But now looking back, you know,
(29:11):
you never want to say you're glad you relapsed. But
at the same time, it really was an important lesson
for me and something that I can share with others,
like it's okay to mess up and relapse sometimes is
part of it, part of the journey, but that's okay,
and you can keep going. And I had that experience,
and I'm able to speak to that now. I know
what it's like and it doesn't mean that you failed.
(29:32):
It just means that you're imperfect.
Speaker 11 (29:33):
What were some of the most surprising stories you heard
from other Christian moms struggling with alcohol.
Speaker 6 (29:39):
I think what's interesting is that so many people are
just so secretive and don't know. I got emails from
people that are like, I'm a pastor's wife and I'm
afraid of my husband is going to lose his job,
or I'm going to lose my place in ministry, or
I get messages that are like, you know, ever since
my son was born, I've been struggling and I feel
(29:59):
like I just I don't know how to get out
of this, and so I don't know that any of
it was super surprising, but it was just like people
felt a relief or a weightlifted that they had somebody
that got it. And specifically on the faith side, I
think makes a difference because for me, like in the
Luckiest Club, the support program I mentioned that is not
faith based, and I really felt a lot of disconnection
(30:23):
between myself and people there. In the meetings, they were great,
they were super helpful, for me and I would never
have not done them. But at the same time, I
think when a Christian woman hears me speak, they're like, okay,
Like she's gonna get this on a different level than
anyone else, because as Christians, like our faith is number one,
Like we can't walk forward without that being a huge
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component of it. And so I think for some of
the people that reach out to me, that was really
a relief to them.
Speaker 11 (30:52):
How did your relationships with your church, your kids, your
spouse kind of shift as you moved towards sobriety friends
did these friends?
Speaker 6 (31:01):
I didn't lose friends at first. I wasn't really telling
people a whole lot, but as a mom of young kids,
I wasn't going out a lot anyway with friends. Telling
my small group at church was huge for me, very scary.
I was terrified to tell them. I was terrified to
ask for prayer. But I have written about before how
that was a huge turning point for me because number one,
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they of course reacted with complete grace and love, and
you know, they said thank you for telling us, and
we're going to pray for you, And there was no pressure.
It was just a beautiful way to sort of open
it up and get it out of the darkness, which
is so important. And we've all heard this before, like
shame breeds in the darkness, but when you bring it
out to the light, it cannot grow. And that is
(31:45):
exactly the experience I had. As soon as I started
talking about it, it couldn't grow anymore. So that was huge.
With my husband, he and I drank a lot together
in the beginning of our relationship, and he is not
a great drinker. He has, like I said, a history
of addiction in his past, and so he doesn't he's
not sober, but like he barely ever drinks now, and
(32:08):
so when we would have arguments and fights and any
kind of issue that would arise because we were drinking,
all of that has completely disappeared.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
We don't have that.
Speaker 6 (32:14):
Anymore, There is no problem. And so I think that
was a huge thing for me too, because I didn't
want my kids to see that either because of alcohol.
And then with my kids, not only do I now
have a reason to say, like, yeah, don't drink. You know,
you're not supposed to drink two or twenty one for
like no reason I can say to them, you know,
we have this history of addiction in our family, and
(32:37):
that's why I don't drink, and that's why your dad
doesn't drink, aside from the occasional like beer at Christmas
or whatever. And they can look at their grandmother, who
they actually never met because they were strange because of
her alcoholism and drug issues. We tell them about the
way that my husband grew up, and they know that
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there's something dangerous about alcohol for us. I said specifically
for you guys, because it may affect you in a
way that it doesn't affect other people. And we just
have to be really careful. And I think when you
approach the topic like that with kids rather than it
just like you're not supposed to do that. I read
this sumwhere and I can't point to the study at
the moment, but when when kids have that really deeper,
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more meaningful reason, they are much more likely to not
abuse it or wait until later. Because if you wait
until you're twenty five, I mean, I don't know twenty
five is late, but any people who wait till they're
twenty five to try drugs or alcohol at all or
twenty one, even the rates of addiction go down, like
totally going down a mountain because the younger you do it,
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the more likely it is that you are going to
potentially have an addiction simply because your brain is still
forming and you're training it to be addicted. Essentially, that
makes sense.
Speaker 1 (33:53):
That.
Speaker 8 (33:58):
Got it.
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But welcome back to Turning Point tonight. Really appreciate you
sticking with us through the break. We have some very
interesting videos that I do want to show you, but
first I want to address something really quick. First of all,
you can email the show anytime you want ATPUSA dot com.
(35:25):
Friday Show. There was a little bit of confusion on
some commentary around boomers, specifically with our guests, and there
was I think a moment in the beginning where we
specified who we were talking about. Some of the more
liberal boomers who show up to these no King protests.
(35:46):
Everybody's over the age of sixty and summer and wheelchairs
and walkers. That's who we were making fun of, not
the overall boomer generation.
Speaker 2 (35:54):
It was specifically the crazy lib.
Speaker 1 (35:57):
Boomers that just have so much trumped arrangements syndrome they
have to go in the streets and shriek at the
top of their lung. So and guss there was any confusion.
We did get a couple of emails for that that's
what we were talking about, and if you missed the
preface to that, I could totally see how that was
a little bit confusing. Anyways, TPTATPUSA dot com. If you
see something and you want to send it along, that's
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where you go. Anytime a day. You can email whether
you agree or whether you're wrong. We love all of
your emails with that. I thought this was hilarious. So yesterday,
President Trump goes to the World Cup Club Final at
MetLife Stadium in New York, where there were two soccer
teams playing. I had no idea what was going on
(36:38):
at all. I saw a New York Post update that
said Trump and Malania relive rearrive at MetLife to watch
the soccer match and what I don't even I don't
even know what that is. But I did a little
bit of viewing of it, and it was a really
cool event. The crowd erupted when President Trump came in,
and he was there when the representing the trophies ceremony,
(36:59):
and that is where this clip is from. President Trump
is there at the handing off of the ceremony and
then whoever is the handler up there says hey, okay,
so we'll have you step off this way because they
do their whole thing and they cheer, and President Trump
just didn't leave. He's like, nah, man, I'm gonna be
here for this celebration. It's gonna be fun rock and roll.
Watch that interaction. It's hilarious. Check it out.
Speaker 12 (37:21):
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you don't watch live you have sunny Talk came on
Laya layawas it off the jense jump.
Speaker 7 (37:45):
Dude.
Speaker 1 (37:45):
The guy loves sports and they're like, Okay, well we're
gonna celebrate right now, sir, you have to come this way.
Speaker 13 (37:52):
Nope, I'm staying right here. And he did, and they
were just like, all right, cool, we'll just we'll just
party with the President for a little bit. I think
that team was from the UK. I don't even know who,
or maybe maybe was it France. I don't know if
you know who that team was. Message me, I don't
really care about soccer. I just thought it was hilarious.
(38:12):
The presidentor was like, nah, I'm not leaving. I'm staying
right here and I'm gonna have fun with these dudes.
The second thing I want to show you today that
I just I thought was so juicy and good. Sometimes
you kind of you're scrolling through the internet and you
see a video specifically for me and the team that
produces Turning Points tonight. When you see a woke, crazy
person going nuts, you think, sweet, this is gonna be perfect.
Speaker 2 (38:35):
For the show.
Speaker 1 (38:36):
You have to highlight these crazy people saying crazy things
and talk about it on the show, or else people
won't know that it's happening. And so we need to
We need to amplify the craziness to show the normal
people among us, which is most of us, that these
people are crazy. This was one of those instances where
I was watching this going, this is perfect, dude, We're
gonna roast this lady and just just a bl literate
(39:00):
the way that she thinks about the world.
Speaker 2 (39:02):
However, got tricked.
Speaker 1 (39:05):
That's what I figured I might as Wenna show the
show it on the show anyway, watch this They had
me in the first half and they'll probably have you too.
Speaker 2 (39:12):
Check it out.
Speaker 14 (39:13):
It's been day five and I have not received no
food stamps.
Speaker 6 (39:17):
My disability checks.
Speaker 14 (39:19):
Is on hold, my cash benefits is not coming no more.
They're still pending. I it is the taxpayer's job to
pay for my case eating, for my kids to be
taken care of. I have over two thousand followers on
TikTok and I can't get out. One person is seven
fifty cents. You'll watch this video and you can't send
(39:40):
me nothing.
Speaker 8 (39:41):
I'm blocking you.
Speaker 7 (39:42):
I'm fucking blocking.
Speaker 14 (39:44):
You fifty cents. My kids have not eight and five days.
It is the taxpayer's responsibility to take care of my kids.
Speaker 13 (39:52):
Yo, I just seen a video.
Speaker 14 (39:54):
And that's exactly what the lady was saying. Brom.
Speaker 7 (39:57):
Then it's called job.
Speaker 1 (40:03):
They had for for how many minutes? This sorry, for
probably forty five seconds. This lady just had me. I
was like, oh, yeah, we're gonna roast this. I can't
believe this person. Yeah, just get a job, idiot. And
then the last parts say I just saw a video
somebody saying that, and it's called get a job, exactly
(40:24):
what I was thinking. It's so fun to see people
recognize the stupidity of what is going on around them
in the real everyday life and poking fun at it,
much like we do here on the show. We really
love doing that here. But it was a pleasant surprise,
because I do there is a part of me that
when you watch those videos of those people just ranting
(40:45):
about insane things that you're like, how are you a
real person that actually believes this? There is it's great
for it's great for the show. It's great for people
to see that sort of thing because it really exists.
But also it hurts.
Speaker 2 (40:58):
Inside a little bit because you're like, dang it.
Speaker 1 (41:00):
These people live amongst us and and vote and drive cars,
and I don't feel safe around them. But it also
is nice to see when some of the other people
are making fun of it. So that is that hey
sas the Student Action Summit over the weekend, produced by
Turning Point and Turning Point Action was a phenomenal event.
Speaker 2 (41:19):
We're gonna show you a lot of clips throughout the week.
Speaker 1 (41:21):
If you watched the full time air over the weekend,
I know a lot, not a lot of everybody watches.
Speaker 2 (41:26):
All weekend because you're you know, you're you're living your life,
you're doing fun things.
Speaker 1 (41:29):
It did airon REV but we're gonna be playing a
lot of that chopped up to kind of show you
some of the highlights of the best moments. In our
opinion from the Student Action Summit, it was an unbelievable experience,
some fantastic speeches, some great ideas being brought to the floor.
So look forward to that coming up this week here
on Turning Point Tonight again. You can email the show
anytime you want TPT at tpusa dot com, whether you agree,
(41:53):
or whether.
Speaker 2 (41:53):
You're wrong, or if you misunderstood something. You know.
Speaker 1 (41:55):
I think we replied to a couple of those emails
that kind of missed the setup to the little segment
that may have gotten us a little bit of trouble
last week. But anyways, we will see you tomorrow, same time,
same place. Charlie Kirk is going to take us out.
See then, God bless America.
Speaker 8 (42:27):
All right, I have a seat everybody who's excited to
be here in Tampa, Florida for the Student Action Summit.
This is the largest student Action summit in history by far,
nearly double the size of the one that we had
a couple of years ago. And for those of you
that are visiting that are not students, we give the
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best seats to students for a reason, because.
Speaker 3 (42:50):
These students every day.
Speaker 8 (42:54):
Are on the front lines being smared, being slandered, being canceled,
being kicked out of classes, kicked out of fraternities, kicked
out of sororities. These are the students that worked so
hard to register voters this last election. These are the
students that start these chapters. They are the vanguard for
saving this country. Thirteen years ago when I first started
(43:15):
turning point USA and this journey began. If you would
have told me thirteen years later that we would have
someone running for the presidency as a Republican winning the
youth vote in major states, I would say, how would
that be possible? Thirteen years ago we started the journey,
and it was chapter by chapter, student by student, person
by person, prove me wrong by prove me wrong, liberal
(43:39):
by liberal, proving one wrong at a time, and billions
and billions of years later. What happened in November was
a shot heard around the world. You see, all Kamala
Harris needed to do was get younger people to vote
at the same margins that Joe Biden got them to
vote back in twenty twenty. Did you know that baby
boomers moved three points more Democrat back in November, Ah,
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But younger voters moved twenty two points to the right
in November. The youth delivered the White House to Donald Trump.
The next generation rose up in record numbers, and I
started to see it at the prove me wrongs across America.
We would just start with a couple hundred students and
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all of a sudden, like a thousand students would come,
and all of a sudden, they'd be wearing red hats
as far as the eye could see. I said, there's
something profound happening in this country. There's something that is deep,
that is larger than what the media is covering. And
we turned that red maga hat from a symbol that
everybody was afraid to wear back in twenty sixteen, we're
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now in twenty twenty four. We turned that into a
symbol of hope, into a symbol of optimism, of patriotism
and taking back our country. Back in November, when we
rose up, voters saw President Trump as a lifeline. President
Donald Trump represented for them a way to try to
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get everybody's attention that things were not all right for
this generation. You see, I spend a lot of time
talking the next generation. We just did an entire prove
me wrong with many of you out in the hall.
I did over one hundred hours of campus debates this
last semester, two hundred hours in one year, over sixty
five campuses that I visit, and a through line is repeated,
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whether they're Republican or Democrat, or.
Speaker 3 (45:30):
Conservative or liberal.
Speaker 8 (45:31):
There is an angst, there's an uneasiness, there is a worry,
there is a concern, and they say in no uncertain terms, Charlie,
I'm trying to get my leader's attention. I can't afford
a home, I can't afford basic necessities.
Speaker 3 (45:46):
If I ask.
Speaker 8 (45:47):
A girl out on a date and I get one
word wrong, she could report me for sexual harassment. I
am surrounded by this political correctness. Or if I don't
get the pronouns correct of the transactivists next to me
in class, it could be the end of my career.
My town, my city is flooded by illegal aliens.
Speaker 3 (46:08):
Charlie.
Speaker 8 (46:08):
When will my leaders start fighting for me and my generation?
I hear every single day from you and this audience,
the students, Charlie. Why is it that we spend hundreds
of billions of dollars on wars abroad, but our own
generation has to go endlessly in debt to pay our
medical bills and suffer under credit card debt. Why is
it that are young. Why you, the next generation, have
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to compete to buy a home against a Chinese oligarch.
Let me be very clear, no foreign national should be
allowed to own single family homes until this generation can
have the same homes that their parents have. And this
angst and this unease built up and built up, and
(46:54):
it culminated in the election of Donald Trump. The youth
delivered the White House for President Trump. And understand that
now six seven months later, we've inherited in disordered economy
from Joe Biden. If we do not deliver on economic promises,
especially for the next generation, if we do not make
you owners of this economy, not just renters of this economy,
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then you're going to see a lot more Zo Ron,
Mam Dunnies. Now we should booz so ran Momdnnie. The
guy is a bigot, anti civilization to his core, anti American,
anti Western, wants to nationalize or make all the grocery
stores run by the government, defund the police.
Speaker 3 (47:36):
All that is garbage.
Speaker 8 (47:38):
But we failed to understand why he is rising.
Speaker 2 (47:42):
Yeah, part of it is.
Speaker 8 (47:43):
That people in New York are not like you wonderful
people here in Florida.
Speaker 3 (47:46):
That's partially it but there's a deeper thing at play.
Speaker 8 (47:53):
Younger voters are trying to get their leader's attention. We
can't afford anything. Homes are out of rea. I'm tired
of renting all the time, and I have zero equity
to my name.
Speaker 3 (48:05):
If we do not solve.
Speaker 8 (48:06):
The economic disorder that is facing this generation, from the debts,
the deficits, student loan debt, cost of living, then Mom,
Donnie will just be the beginning of what you're going
to see in communities across the country. So what is
the solution. Well, the solution is what President Trump is
trying to do every single day, and we need more
of it. We need double and tripling down on it.
(48:27):
Starting with those of you that are looking for a job.
You should not have to compete against a foreigner for
your job. American college graduates should come first, and that
starts with President Donald Trump. And this will affect everybody
in this room, regardless of age. It is time for
the largest deportation effort this country has ever seen. If
(48:52):
you are here illegally, you are deported from the United
States of America. Period, no amnesty, repeat after no amnesty period,
end up story.
Speaker 3 (49:04):
We will not put up.
Speaker 8 (49:05):
With any exceptions, any carbouts, any loopholes, any exceptions, any asterisks,
any iotas. I don't care if it's ten years or
fifteen years. We voted for mass deportations, we did not
vote for mass amnesty, and we expect our leaders to
deliver it and bring back our country to a place
of citizenship and Americans being put first.
Speaker 9 (49:31):
Got to admire what you've been able to do, not
to weaponize, but to organize on these college campuses.
Speaker 3 (49:38):
At Turning Point USA.
Speaker 8 (49:39):
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we sought payoff. Our grassroots army is making a real difference.
Help us keep the momentum going. Donate today and keep
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what were children doing in those fields? Also, government schools
are bracing for this semester's parents opt outs, which we're
all really appreciating. And Barbie has a new disease for
some reason. All that more coming up on this episode
of Turning Point Tonight. My name is Joe Bob. Thanks
(00:29):
so much for tuning in. Together, we are charting the
course of America's cultural comeback. This is Turning Point Tonight. Now,
before we get to those stories in our fantastic panel,
we gotta get to this. New polling is out from
Pew Research that shows some really interesting ways that other
countries are thinking about the United States, most notably our
(00:49):
neighbors to the north and the south. Canadians and Mexicans
answered a Pew Research poll in a bizarre way. The
poll was seeking to find out of twenty five different countries,
who was their greatest ally and who was their greatest threat.
Now Canada, at least because we're talking about those two
nations to their credits, said the majority of them said, well,
(01:12):
the US is the greatest ally. There were also half
of the country's polled said yeah, the US is is
their greatest ally. Now, I don't know why that wasn't
one hundred percent, because we're the biggest, the best, and
we're gonna be the ones who come and save your
butt if anything goes wrong, for better or worse. That's
just the reality of it. I don't know why it's
not one hundred percent, but at least it was half.
(01:32):
But the disturbing and very odd thing is also a
majority in both Mexico and Canada said that, well, the
United States is our greatest threat. First things, First, Mexicans
in Mexico. Over the last ten years and estimated two
hundred to two hundred fifty thousand Mexicans were killed by
the cartel. So maybe the greatest threat to Mexico is
(01:57):
Mexico and hey, syrup guzzlers up to the north in
America's hat. Article five of NATO says that we have
to defend you in case anybody attacks you, and considering
that we're not gonna attack you, maybe we also aren't
the greatest threat. I don't know what these people are
thinking other.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
Than Trump mean.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
He send mean tweets and makes fun of us and
calls us the fifty first state, which by the way,
is still hilarious and we should still do it. But
the idea that these countries think that we are the
biggest threat to them is hilarious. Let's bring in our
fantastic panel for the day, Steven Gardner's host of The
Stephen Gardner Show, and new time guest Liz beneath you.
(02:37):
I think I pronounced that right. Hopefully I did. Guys,
thanks for joining us. Really appreciate you taking the time.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
Absolutely, thank you, Steven.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
I want to start with you here.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
This is ironic in so many ways. But where is
this coming from? Is it strictly the Orange man bad
syndrome that's affecting both Mexico and Canada.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
You know, I would have thought the greatest enemy would
be Justin Trudeau and the cartel.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
So I'm there with you.
Speaker 4 (03:07):
But you know, obviously half of the Canadians they see
Donald Trump as being a big issue instead of the
fact that he liberated you from Justin Trudeau. Of course,
America is still a great neighbor to Canada.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
I think that they are overreacting.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
We would come in and save their biscuits, just like
we are right now, like we do a lot of
business with Canada. If we were to cut that off,
it would be very bad. So maybe this is the issue.
Canadian people are so kind and polite, like if you
bump into them, they apologize. That's how nice they are.
(03:45):
Now imagine bumping into somebody from New York. They're just
like they're having Donald Trump shock syndrome.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
You know, you bring up a fantastic point because people
use this to describe New York and California. They say, hey,
people in the Upper East Coast of the United States,
if you if you have a flat tire, they'll they'll
curse you out, but they'll help you change the tire.
In California they'll go, oh no, I'm so sorry, and
then they won't help you at all. So I'd rather
be harsh and nice, harsh and helpful, rather than nice
(04:16):
and completely useless. Liz, Mexico is like it's it's it's
not now, but a couple of years ago it ranked
second in the most dangerous countries on Earth, second only
to Syria. But yet the United States is their greatest threat.
So many, the majority of the country country believes what
is going on there, Oh well, that I'm trying.
Speaker 5 (04:37):
To figure out, because if the United States is their
biggest threat. Then why do they keep trying to come here, yeah, away.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
From my threat?
Speaker 5 (04:45):
Like I'm not gonna go run up to Michael Myers.
Speaker 6 (04:48):
He's trying to murder me.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
I'm not entirely sure how that's that makes any sense
on any on any level whatsoever. Things that I also
don't know how to make sense of last week, and
I know this is not necessarily news of the day,
but we were in Tampa all week. We were talking
to some fantastic people at the Turning Point Student Action
Summit and didn't get to this story. But the ICE
(05:13):
agents that did a raid which was sanctioned by a
search warrant for a criminal search warrant on a marijuana
farm in Cameruo, California. A bunch of the news media
Stephen was talking about, well, there was children there and
how could they do that with children? Their ten youths,
one young is fourteen years old were wrapped up in
(05:34):
the ice raids, to which I and pretty much every
conservative commentator goes, why were their children working in the
fields of that kind of sounds like slave laborer, which
is not okay, Steve, Why did one they miss that?
And two there's so many other things going on with this.
If you have any other comments about this whole raid,
I would love to hear them.
Speaker 4 (05:56):
You know one of my favorite rap songs by Vanilla
ICE's Ice Ice Baby.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
I mean, why are babies?
Speaker 4 (06:02):
Why our babies out on the farm picking marijuana. And
then you've got the mainstream media, the Democrats and Gavin
Gruesome saying that this is going to affect America's food safety,
that they are the largest producer of agriculture. These guys
aren't picking strawberries, they're not picking almonds for your almond milk.
(06:25):
This is marijuana. And this company, this company is known
for missing payroll regularly. So now you've got these immigrant children,
some of them don't even have parents, that they're probably
paying slave labor to. To me, this is just so
disgusting and the fact that they're trying to pin this
on the food safety of America. Last I checked, nobody
(06:50):
is eating marijuana to survive.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
They're using it for a good time.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
I was good to say.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
If you didn't add that to survive there, I'd be like, ah,
I might push back. Not a good thing, but still
not entirely sure. The farmer also, by the way, that
owns the ranch, according to California Disclosure Reports, has donated
ten thousand dollars to the Gavin Newsom campaign in twenty eighteen.
No shock there, Liz. This I think highlights kind of
(07:16):
another big issue.
Speaker 7 (07:17):
You know.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
Libs are all about like, well, we got to protect
the illegal immigrants, why not protect the kids. If you remember,
the Biden administration just kind of lost three hundred and
twenty thousand illegal migrant children who are in the country.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
The kind of lost track of them.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
Turns out some of them are working in these farms,
which I can almost guarantee you are not abiding by
any of these state regulated laws regarding miners working. How
come it seems like they care more about illegals than
they care about the protection of illegals, and they care
about children.
Speaker 5 (07:52):
They don't care about the protection of illegals. They care
about the protection of cheap labor. And here's the thing
with the children, they have nimble finger so it's easier
for them to get into the marijuana plants and stuff.
So I think they're all happy, especially the liberals in California.
Speaker 8 (08:05):
They all need their weed.
Speaker 5 (08:06):
They're all stressed out about everything, so that's why they
don't care.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
I just yeah, I think it's a funny and ironic.
It's not funny. The whole situation is bad, but it's
just the irony is just so juicy, especially in the
state of California, and I think Governor Newsom is on
the wrong side of this politically.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
Stephen, did you have another thought?
Speaker 3 (08:24):
Yeah, Joe, Bob.
Speaker 4 (08:25):
I mean, these these liberals, the only way that they're
able to keep their Trump derangement syndrome under control is
to just have a little bit of marijuana. And they've
got to keep it affordable, you know, high inflation under Biden.
They've got to have that cheap weed. And so they've
(08:46):
got to have children with no parents. Again, this is disgusting.
I don't mean to make light of it, but the
fact that they're defending this is kind of like defending
that Brego Garcia guy who was trafficking children beating his wife,
and then they were pretending, oh, he's a great guy, Like,
can you just defend the right group of people?
Speaker 1 (09:06):
No, Steven, I'm pretty sure he was just a father
in Maryland. He is the Maryland father, nothing more than that,
not a wife be of a human traffick and illegal
speaking of Libs doing just classic lib things. I recognize
that this is really only affecting a geographically small place. Obviously,
population wise, New York City is a huge city. But
(09:29):
former governor disgraced to slash resigned Governor Cuomo said that
he will be running for mayor as an independent against
Mam Danny. But there's a catch here that I think
is really funny and kind of interesting. He says that
by September, if there's not a clear winner, or whoever
the clear winner is, every other independent should drop out
(09:49):
of the race so that they can defeat the communist
Mam Danny over there in New York Stephen one, do
you think he will abide by his own rules? And
Eric Adams, the current mayor who's also running as an independent,
has basically said, yeah, Pound Sin, I'm not dropping out.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
You think this play is gonna work.
Speaker 4 (10:09):
I mean, he's already upset that this other guy came
in like he's gotten the name Cuomo right. Unfortunately, he
tarnished it by being a little bit handsy with some
of the women in his office, So that's on him.
But you know, asking people to drop out, I think
it's just his way of saying, I literally don't have
(10:31):
a chance of winning this unless I get a bunch
of other people's stuff. So once again, these Democrats, they
don't run on good policy. They run on getting votes
in really clever ways.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
Yeah, clever or conniving is probably yeah, how things are
done in that part of the country. Liz, do you
think anybody's going to follow these arbitrary rules set by
the guy who is hoping that these rules give him
the boost he needs to not abide by them?
Speaker 5 (11:00):
You know, I mean, this is a mayoral race in
New York City. This isn't like a fifth grade, you
know election. Nobody has to do anything.
Speaker 8 (11:08):
That Cuomo wants.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
He did a terrible job.
Speaker 5 (11:11):
He's going to do another terrible job, and why should
anyone listen to him.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
Yeah, it's it's one of those two where you like, hey,
we're all going to sign this pack. I also, you know,
this is just me especially it's easier to Monday morning
quarterback this one. But when people were saying we're going
to sign this pack that all the conservatives and then
Trump would go, I'm.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Not signing that.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
It just kind of it is exactly how these things
always work, especially if you're not the front runner trying
to get these things started. Listens even will be back
right after the break to discuss parents are going to
be opting their kids out of certain lessons. The Supreme
Court said that is okay, and Barbie has a new
disease which doesn't really make any sense.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
All that more coming up after the break. Don't go away.
We'll be right back after this.
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Welcome back to Turning Point Tonight. We're together. We are
charting the course of America's cultural comeback. It is time
to check in with Turning Points White House correspondent Monica
page that we actually ran into in real life, because
a lot of this stuff is you know, video conference.
But Monica was great to see you in face to
face real time.
Speaker 7 (12:53):
Yeah, likewise, it was great to see you guys. I mean,
I feel like we spend so much time over the
cameras that when we see each other in person, one
big celebration. So it was really nice.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
It is, it is. That's what I think.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
One of the it's kind of intangible, but one of
the best things about turning point events is you kind
of get to put a name to a face. Even
though you know the face of a person, you get
to meet him in person. It's that's why everybody should
go to all the turning point events. Everybody watching you
should make your way to one of the bigger turning
point events. And that's all you get, Manica. Big stuff,
big stuff, as there always is. President Trump is meeting
(13:25):
with the NATO Secretary General there, who previously made news
for calling him daddy now jokingly but also was serious
in the fact that, like, hey, you know, credit where
credits due. Trump is doing a great job. What's coming
out of that meeting?
Speaker 7 (13:39):
Yeah, of course, President Trump's starting off the week on
a very strong note and really showing who's in charge.
Giving homage to that daddy comment, and that it's very
interesting President Trump's saying that Russia should be ending the
war in fifty days or else you're going to be
facing economic sanctions of one hundred percent tariffs. So now
(13:59):
this is the place rushing in a very interesting position
where if it doesn't in the war, I guess you
can be expecting crazy sanctions. Very short conversation, kind of
a short meeting this afternoon, and the President also holding
a Faith Office luncheon as well. So of course, the
President keeping a very busy schedule, offer the very strong
start at the White House here on Monday.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
Yep, And like you said, it is Monday.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
What does the rest of the week look like for
the White House and for the President at the White
House and also outside in the United States of America.
I don't know why the country as a whole, but yes,
the United States of America.
Speaker 7 (14:32):
Well, in addition to those Russia sanctions looming, of course,
the President said that they will be sending more weapons
to NATO to sent over to Ukraine. And that's also
looking that at the White House today as well. But
looking ahead to tomorrow, the President is actually traveling to
Pittsburgh where he'll be with Senator McCormick, where they will
be announcing huge artificial intelligence and energy investments, about seventy
(14:55):
billion dollars worth of investments towards new power grids, towards
new AI data centers and AI training programs. And we
can definitely expect to see over sixty executives of black Rock,
Excellent Mobile, and tons of other energy companies as well
coming together at Carnegie Mellon University to talk about this
(15:16):
huge amount of growth that this could be in the
energy and artificial intelligence sector. It's expected to create thousands
of new jobs right here at home in our own country.
So it's going to be a very big announcement, and
I think it's one that is going to make a
lot of people very happy, especially with these new jobs.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
No, Monica, we didn't talk about this before him.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
But I'm just curious kind of the overall mood, the vibe,
if you will, as the kids say, obviously somewhat of
a contentious weekend with the White House and the DOJ
and Pambondi and President Trump's and any backs.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
Or what is the mood like is it is.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
It seem to be a little bit frazzled or is
it kind of business as usual?
Speaker 7 (15:54):
Well, I let that you ask this question, Jobob, because
it does feel like a mix of feelings. I mean,
hand you do have kind of the elephant in the room,
if you will, And on the other hands, you still
kind of want to celebrate the successes of this Trump
administration and all the things that he's trying to push forward.
And it really does seem like the President wants to
highlight all the new and innovative policies that he's pushing forward.
(16:15):
He doesn't want to talk about the Epstein client list.
He wants to move past that. He's kind of surprised
that people are still talking about it. But I do
still kind of hear along pebble Beach reporting about the
Epstein client list and the latest developments regarding that. But
it's very clear this White House wants to move forward
and still wants to highlight all the things that the
President wants to accomplish, especially after the passage of the
(16:35):
One Big, Beautiful Bill.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
Yeah, it'll be really interesting to see how that story
either fizzles or gains momentum, or just kind of stays
the same. And we'll all find out together in the
Futuremodica Baye during What's White House correspondent.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
Thanks so much for joining us. We'll see tomorrow.
Speaker 7 (16:49):
Thanks you guys, see tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
An article I believe in ABC News or one of
your big market, pretty left leaning mainstream media outlets said
government schools. They use the term public schools, but I
use the term government schools because we want to make
sure that people know, Hey, the government does things and
it's usually bad. Government schools are bracing for the impact
of parents opting out their kids from certain lessons. Now,
(17:13):
we've all remembered the Supreme Court case that said, hey, yeah,
you can do this if there is religious exception, especially
regarding the lgbt Q two plus two for all of
the letters lesson plans, you can say, hey, I'm gonna
pull my kid out of that class.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
They said that the schools have.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
To tell the parents, hey, we're doing this, and the
parents have the opportunity to go all right, well I'm out.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
Let's bring it back our panel.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
Stephen and Liz here, Stephen, this is this is really
interesting because, well, let me read you some of the
comments from people who hate this sort of thing, that think,
oh my gosh, this is terrible that parents are going
to be able to pull their kids out of the class.
One of the attorneys that is opposed to this said this,
and this could lead to more educators self censoring shelby
(18:00):
books and lessons and pretending some already marginalized students sorry,
preventing the marginalized students from being seen and acknowledged, to
which I say, great, that sounds good. That the teachers
are gonna self censor and not put the wacky doodle
stuff in front of elementary school's eyes.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
That sounds fantastic. What do you think the outcome of
this is going to be, Stephen?
Speaker 1 (18:22):
Will we just start seeing more parents opt out of schools,
or will the pushback be so great that more parents
should say, all right, I'm out of the whole government
school thing as a whole.
Speaker 4 (18:33):
I think most people depend on the government school system.
So I think more parents are just going to become
vocal about this, and they're going to be pushing to
educate their own children when it comes to sexuality, when
it comes to gender, when it comes to adult themes.
I mean, remember when the Democrats were throwing a giant
fit over not being able to have openly adult conversations
(18:57):
with kindergarteners like come on like their brains are not
fully formed. Why is a kindergartener being told what a
mom and dad or a dad and a dad and
a mom and a mom are doing behind closed doors.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
It doesn't make any sense. So I think that this
is great.
Speaker 4 (19:12):
I mean, I remember, like the news coverage that parents
would go in and read some of the trashy books
and they would say, you can't say that at a
school board meeting. And they say, well, then why is
my child allowed to read it in the privacy of
your library?
Speaker 3 (19:28):
Get it out or I'm gonna get my kid out.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
That sounds like Pastor John Amachuku Turning Point contributor who's
going at those meetings and just say, hey, look, I'm
just reading you what is on the book in your
second grade classroom.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
You can't tell me to stop. Liz.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
You know, part of the argument here is that, okay,
so where do you draw the line? And this is
where this is where I think ultimately parents, you know,
over the course of time, and I don't like that
this is going to be the case, but I think
parents will just start saying, hey, I got to pull
my kids out of school, and I would hope that's
the case. And I understand this financial restrictions that come
with that sort of thing, But the argument would be, well, okay,
(20:05):
well what counts as a religious belief? If you say, hey,
my child doesn't believe in math, which some of your
more woke people do, they get to be exempt from
this class and you have to give them an a.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
How do you think this is going to.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
Work out in a whole as a whole, especially going
forward when people start to exploit the system.
Speaker 5 (20:27):
I mean, I think there's a fairer lion here. I
know that a lot of liberals say that math is
now racist, but still, you know, teach kids math, but
when it comes to teaching kids about sexuality, about gender
studies at fifth or sixth grade, or not fifth or
sixth grade when they're five or six years old, then
there's a boundary there.
Speaker 6 (20:47):
A lot of people that I know, a lot of.
Speaker 5 (20:48):
Parents that I know, have chosen to opt out of
sending their kids to normal public schools, and they've done
a lot of small pod learning for multiple reasons. One
they don't want their kids learning anything whoe for weird.
And the other reason is a lot of them don't
want their kids to be forced to take all of
these vaccines.
Speaker 6 (21:03):
So I think there's gonna.
Speaker 5 (21:04):
Be a lot more homeschooling, small pod learning and where
parents do have.
Speaker 6 (21:10):
A bit more control.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
I hope to see, hope, hope that this works out
in everyone's best interest, and maybe the government schools just say, hey, yeah,
maybe let's just lay off of this, or else we're
gonna have some bad outcomes. Uh, this is just a
funny story. There's no real political relevance here. It's more
of a cultural thing.
Speaker 6 (21:27):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
Stephen Mattel has released a new Barbie, but now this
Barbie has type one diabetes. I understand what they're trying
to do. They're trying to play to the crowd that says, well,
what about the kids with you know, type one diabetes. However,
I don't understand the point of telling people that a
plastic doll has a disease that you can't see. Oh,
(21:50):
this doll has a pulmonarily enlarged artery, this doll has
crippling depressions.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
It's still a doll. It doesn't age the physical appearance
at all.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
Uh, what's going on here at Mattel with their Barbie
new release?
Speaker 4 (22:07):
I mean the Kendall, you know, just has a flat patch.
It doesn't even have the male genitilia. So I guess
now they're saying, Okay, we can't, we can't go down
that route, so we can at least put a port. Now,
Type one diabetes, that's different. I get it, they have it.
There's not much you can do. Type two diabetes. Let's
(22:27):
not normalize that, let's not make that common. But the
one that I was more concerned about Joe Bob is the.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
Doctor Fauci Barbie.
Speaker 4 (22:36):
Like, come on, why are you putting this guy on
a pedestal. Millions and millions of people died and you're
trying to make him into a hero by putting him on.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
A pedestal next to Barbie. No way, I'm out.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
I have not seen the Doctor Fauci Barbie, but that
is insane.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
And to your point, yeah, type one diabetes, you know,
it's kind of born with it. And I'm totally fair
if you want to sell the like accessory part, really fine,
but a whole new Barbie. It just doesn't make any
sense to me why they would do that. Oh, I'm
gonna stop myself from making another unfortunate joke that may
get me in trouble but Liz, your thoughts on the
(23:12):
diabetic barbie.
Speaker 5 (23:15):
I'm just hoping that wanted to make like a seed
oil free barbie. Maybe, but I think we're probably gonna
get like HIV barbie before we get seed oil free barbie. Unfortunately.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
Yeah, I uh, I'm not too optimistic about that, but
I do think that would be funny. Actually, you know what,
who's stopping us from going into the stores and not
doing anything specifically but picking up a bar and saying,
this is a seed oil free barbie and this is
a uh doesn't use lotion and instead use beef tallow
barbie because it doesn't It doesn't make any Yeah, it
(23:48):
doesn't make any difference. And that's I don't know. The
the the attempt to be accepted by everybody all the time,
by especially big industry always continues to fascinate me. Uh, Stephen, Liz,
thank you guys so much for joining us. Really appreciate
you taking the time.
Speaker 3 (24:03):
Yes, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
Come out next year.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
On Turning Points Tonight, we've got a fascinating clip from
Alex Clark's Culture Apothecary podcast. Don't go away, We'll be
right back after the break.
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Speaker 11 (24:56):
So who did you reach out to for support in
those early days of sobriety? I mean, were you doing aa?
Speaker 6 (25:01):
Was it friends? Was it family? Early days? It was
all online mostly at first. I was like before I
even got sober, I was just trying to find one
person that I could say, like I think I might
have a problem and I'm not sure what to do.
But I was so so so embarrassed, Like I couldn't
tell anyone because I thought people are going to think
I'm a bad mom, People are going to judge my faith,
(25:23):
people are going to think, you know, they don't want
their kids around me. You know, I was just blowing
it up into this massive, big deal, so afraid to
tell anyone, and so I would just I would sort
of reach out to people if I saw someone talking
about it, might send a DM or something. But ultimately,
at the beginning of the pandemic, I finally joined a
group called the Luckiest Club and that is like an
(25:46):
online support group similar to AA. It's not AA, though,
and they started having meetings four to five times a day,
and four to.
Speaker 11 (25:55):
Five times a day because it was the pandemic.
Speaker 6 (25:57):
It was pandemic, but they still have them. They still
have them four to five times a day because they
want it to be accessible to anyone. And they have
themed meetings.
Speaker 11 (26:06):
Okay, so you can pick one of the five.
Speaker 6 (26:08):
Yeah, you can go to all. Some people do like
in the beginning of their sobriety where they're just like
I'm just hanging on by thread. They're like, come to
all the meetings.
Speaker 11 (26:15):
And so is this just all women?
Speaker 6 (26:17):
No, it's men and women. Okay, I would say there's
definitely more women. It was started by a woman named
Laura McCowan who is sort of a leader in the
space and sort of like the non traditional sobriety space
that's not AA. And there's a lot more places like
that now than there used to be back when I
first started thinking about this, even gosh, ten twelve years ago,
there was almost nothing Like I would look online and
(26:39):
be like, well, I can't go to an AA meeting.
That's insane. I was terrified. I'm like, I can go
to a building and walk into a room. There was
no way I was going to do that. And that's
why I think these online meetings where you can you
can hop on the zoom, you don't have to turn
your camera on, you don't have to talk, and you
can just sort of like be there. And for me
that was huge because I all of a sudden realized, oh,
(27:02):
I'm actually not that abnormal, and there's people just like
me in this room, and you don't have to, you know,
lose custody of your children and get a DUI and
be thrown in jail. To be like, I don't want
to do this anymore with my life. Alcohol is affecting
me in a negative way, and I have a choice
on whether or not I want that anymore.
Speaker 11 (27:20):
How in the world did you bring this up with
your church, because to me, that would be the most
terrifying of all.
Speaker 6 (27:24):
It was definitely God working. So my pastor had come
to me. I went to a small church at the time,
and they said, we're doing this series about the way
God has moving in our life. I don't remember specifically
what they said, but they said, we're wondering if you
can talk about, you know, something God has saide in
your life. And I had been sober for like five months,
four months at the time, and I just thought, oh no, yeah,
(27:44):
I felt it. I felt you know, I felt like
God was pushing me, say you should talk about this,
and so I said, okay, I got to talk to
you guys about something. I kind of like just dumped
the whole story on the phone. I was like sobbing.
I had never talked about it openly and I couldn't
talk talk about it without crying at the time. And
They're like, this is amazing, we want you to share,
(28:06):
and so it's like okay. So ultimately I did go
in front of my church and share my story through
lots of tears. I still was. It was so the
beginning of so raw, like I couldn't talk about it
because I I just it was the first time I
had really expressed, you know, And so I did it
and it was amazing. I had people coming up to
me after church, you know, confessing not just alcohol, but
(28:28):
like multiple different kinds of addictions and issues, And was
that overwhelming? It was because you're just like, oh, I
don't know how to like you want to help everyone,
And sometimes I feel that online as well, because I
want to help everyone, but you can't be the best
friend to everyone, you know what I mean. But if
somebody is reaching out to me, like, I'm never not
(28:48):
going to reach out back. And so anyway, and you know,
I made friends with a woman who sort of secretly
came to me wanted to talk with me about her problem.
We had this great conversation and we're still friends, we're
still in touch. And then the pandemic happened and I
relapsed started drinking again, and I thought, I can oh
my nobody at church can ever know this. I can
never show my face again. But now looking back, you know,
(29:11):
you never want to say you're glad you relapsed. But
at the same time, it really was an important lesson
for me and something that I can share with others,
like it's okay to mess up and relapse sometimes is
part of it, part of the journey, but that's okay,
and you can keep going. And I had that experience,
and I'm able to speak to that now. I know
what it's like and it doesn't mean that you failed.
(29:32):
It just means that you're imperfect.
Speaker 11 (29:33):
What were some of the most surprising stories you heard
from other Christian moms struggling with alcohol.
Speaker 6 (29:39):
I think what's interesting is that so many people are
just so secretive and don't know. I got emails from
people that are like, I'm a pastor's wife and I'm
afraid of my husband is going to lose his job,
or I'm going to lose my place in ministry, or
I get messages that are like, you know, ever since
my son was born, I've been struggling and I feel
(29:59):
like I just I don't know how to get out
of this, and so I don't know that any of
it was super surprising, but it was just like people
felt a relief or a weightlifted that they had somebody
that got it. And specifically on the faith side, I
think makes a difference because for me, like in the
Luckiest Club, the support program I mentioned that is not
faith based, and I really felt a lot of disconnection
(30:23):
between myself and people there. In the meetings, they were great,
they were super helpful, for me and I would never
have not done them. But at the same time, I
think when a Christian woman hears me speak, they're like, okay,
Like she's gonna get this on a different level than
anyone else, because as Christians, like our faith is number one,
Like we can't walk forward without that being a huge
(30:45):
component of it. And so I think for some of
the people that reach out to me, that was really
a relief to them.
Speaker 11 (30:52):
How did your relationships with your church, your kids, your
spouse kind of shift as you moved towards sobriety friends
did these friends?
Speaker 6 (31:01):
I didn't lose friends at first. I wasn't really telling
people a whole lot, but as a mom of young kids,
I wasn't going out a lot anyway with friends. Telling
my small group at church was huge for me, very scary.
I was terrified to tell them. I was terrified to
ask for prayer. But I have written about before how
that was a huge turning point for me because number one,
(31:24):
they of course reacted with complete grace and love, and
you know, they said thank you for telling us, and
we're going to pray for you, And there was no pressure.
It was just a beautiful way to sort of open
it up and get it out of the darkness, which
is so important. And we've all heard this before, like
shame breeds in the darkness, but when you bring it
out to the light, it cannot grow. And that is
(31:45):
exactly the experience I had. As soon as I started
talking about it, it couldn't grow anymore. So that was huge.
With my husband, he and I drank a lot together
in the beginning of our relationship, and he is not
a great drinker. He has, like I said, a history
of addiction in his past, and so he doesn't he's
not sober, but like he barely ever drinks now, and
(32:08):
so when we would have arguments and fights and any
kind of issue that would arise because we were drinking,
all of that has completely disappeared.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
We don't have that.
Speaker 6 (32:14):
Anymore, There is no problem. And so I think that
was a huge thing for me too, because I didn't
want my kids to see that either because of alcohol.
And then with my kids, not only do I now
have a reason to say, like, yeah, don't drink. You know,
you're not supposed to drink two or twenty one for
like no reason I can say to them, you know,
we have this history of addiction in our family, and
(32:37):
that's why I don't drink, and that's why your dad
doesn't drink, aside from the occasional like beer at Christmas
or whatever. And they can look at their grandmother, who
they actually never met because they were strange because of
her alcoholism and drug issues. We tell them about the
way that my husband grew up, and they know that
(32:57):
there's something dangerous about alcohol for us. I said specifically
for you guys, because it may affect you in a
way that it doesn't affect other people. And we just
have to be really careful. And I think when you
approach the topic like that with kids rather than it
just like you're not supposed to do that. I read
this sumwhere and I can't point to the study at
the moment, but when when kids have that really deeper,
(33:20):
more meaningful reason, they are much more likely to not
abuse it or wait until later. Because if you wait
until you're twenty five, I mean, I don't know twenty
five is late, but any people who wait till they're
twenty five to try drugs or alcohol at all or
twenty one, even the rates of addiction go down, like
totally going down a mountain because the younger you do it,
(33:42):
the more likely it is that you are going to
potentially have an addiction simply because your brain is still
forming and you're training it to be addicted. Essentially, that
makes sense.
Speaker 1 (33:53):
That.
Speaker 8 (33:58):
Got it.
Speaker 9 (33:58):
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But welcome back to Turning Point tonight. Really appreciate you
sticking with us through the break. We have some very
interesting videos that I do want to show you, but
first I want to address something really quick. First of all,
you can email the show anytime you want ATPUSA dot com.
(35:25):
Friday Show. There was a little bit of confusion on
some commentary around boomers, specifically with our guests, and there
was I think a moment in the beginning where we
specified who we were talking about. Some of the more
liberal boomers who show up to these no King protests.
(35:46):
Everybody's over the age of sixty and summer and wheelchairs
and walkers. That's who we were making fun of, not
the overall boomer generation.
Speaker 2 (35:54):
It was specifically the crazy lib.
Speaker 1 (35:57):
Boomers that just have so much trumped arrangements syndrome they
have to go in the streets and shriek at the
top of their lung. So and guss there was any confusion.
We did get a couple of emails for that that's
what we were talking about, and if you missed the
preface to that, I could totally see how that was
a little bit confusing. Anyways, TPTATPUSA dot com. If you
see something and you want to send it along, that's
(36:17):
where you go. Anytime a day. You can email whether
you agree or whether you're wrong. We love all of
your emails with that. I thought this was hilarious. So yesterday,
President Trump goes to the World Cup Club Final at
MetLife Stadium in New York, where there were two soccer
teams playing. I had no idea what was going on
(36:38):
at all. I saw a New York Post update that
said Trump and Malania relive rearrive at MetLife to watch
the soccer match and what I don't even I don't
even know what that is. But I did a little
bit of viewing of it, and it was a really
cool event. The crowd erupted when President Trump came in,
and he was there when the representing the trophies ceremony,
(36:59):
and that is where this clip is from. President Trump
is there at the handing off of the ceremony and
then whoever is the handler up there says hey, okay,
so we'll have you step off this way because they
do their whole thing and they cheer, and President Trump
just didn't leave. He's like, nah, man, I'm gonna be
here for this celebration. It's gonna be fun rock and roll.
Watch that interaction. It's hilarious. Check it out.
Speaker 12 (37:21):
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you don't watch live you have sunny Talk came on
Laya layawas it off the jense jump.
Speaker 7 (37:45):
Dude.
Speaker 1 (37:45):
The guy loves sports and they're like, Okay, well we're
gonna celebrate right now, sir, you have to come this way.
Speaker 13 (37:52):
Nope, I'm staying right here. And he did, and they
were just like, all right, cool, we'll just we'll just
party with the President for a little bit. I think
that team was from the UK. I don't even know who,
or maybe maybe was it France. I don't know if
you know who that team was. Message me, I don't
really care about soccer. I just thought it was hilarious.
(38:12):
The presidentor was like, nah, I'm not leaving. I'm staying
right here and I'm gonna have fun with these dudes.
The second thing I want to show you today that
I just I thought was so juicy and good. Sometimes
you kind of you're scrolling through the internet and you
see a video specifically for me and the team that
produces Turning Points tonight. When you see a woke, crazy
person going nuts, you think, sweet, this is gonna be perfect.
Speaker 2 (38:35):
For the show.
Speaker 1 (38:36):
You have to highlight these crazy people saying crazy things
and talk about it on the show, or else people
won't know that it's happening. And so we need to
We need to amplify the craziness to show the normal
people among us, which is most of us, that these
people are crazy. This was one of those instances where
I was watching this going, this is perfect, dude, We're
gonna roast this lady and just just a bl literate
(39:00):
the way that she thinks about the world.
Speaker 2 (39:02):
However, got tricked.
Speaker 1 (39:05):
That's what I figured I might as Wenna show the
show it on the show anyway, watch this They had
me in the first half and they'll probably have you too.
Speaker 2 (39:12):
Check it out.
Speaker 14 (39:13):
It's been day five and I have not received no
food stamps.
Speaker 6 (39:17):
My disability checks.
Speaker 14 (39:19):
Is on hold, my cash benefits is not coming no more.
They're still pending. I it is the taxpayer's job to
pay for my case eating, for my kids to be
taken care of. I have over two thousand followers on
TikTok and I can't get out. One person is seven
fifty cents. You'll watch this video and you can't send
(39:40):
me nothing.
Speaker 8 (39:41):
I'm blocking you.
Speaker 7 (39:42):
I'm fucking blocking.
Speaker 14 (39:44):
You fifty cents. My kids have not eight and five days.
It is the taxpayer's responsibility to take care of my kids.
Speaker 13 (39:52):
Yo, I just seen a video.
Speaker 14 (39:54):
And that's exactly what the lady was saying. Brom.
Speaker 7 (39:57):
Then it's called job.
Speaker 1 (40:03):
They had for for how many minutes? This sorry, for
probably forty five seconds. This lady just had me. I
was like, oh, yeah, we're gonna roast this. I can't
believe this person. Yeah, just get a job, idiot. And
then the last parts say I just saw a video
somebody saying that, and it's called get a job, exactly
(40:24):
what I was thinking. It's so fun to see people
recognize the stupidity of what is going on around them
in the real everyday life and poking fun at it,
much like we do here on the show. We really
love doing that here. But it was a pleasant surprise,
because I do there is a part of me that
when you watch those videos of those people just ranting
(40:45):
about insane things that you're like, how are you a
real person that actually believes this? There is it's great
for it's great for the show. It's great for people
to see that sort of thing because it really exists.
But also it hurts.
Speaker 2 (40:58):
Inside a little bit because you're like, dang it.
Speaker 1 (41:00):
These people live amongst us and and vote and drive cars,
and I don't feel safe around them. But it also
is nice to see when some of the other people
are making fun of it. So that is that hey
sas the Student Action Summit over the weekend, produced by
Turning Point and Turning Point Action was a phenomenal event.
Speaker 2 (41:19):
We're gonna show you a lot of clips throughout the week.
Speaker 1 (41:21):
If you watched the full time air over the weekend,
I know a lot, not a lot of everybody watches.
Speaker 2 (41:26):
All weekend because you're you know, you're you're living your life,
you're doing fun things.
Speaker 1 (41:29):
It did airon REV but we're gonna be playing a
lot of that chopped up to kind of show you
some of the highlights of the best moments. In our
opinion from the Student Action Summit, it was an unbelievable experience,
some fantastic speeches, some great ideas being brought to the floor.
So look forward to that coming up this week here
on Turning Point Tonight again. You can email the show
anytime you want TPT at tpusa dot com, whether you agree,
(41:53):
or whether.
Speaker 2 (41:53):
You're wrong, or if you misunderstood something. You know.
Speaker 1 (41:55):
I think we replied to a couple of those emails
that kind of missed the setup to the little segment
that may have gotten us a little bit of trouble
last week. But anyways, we will see you tomorrow, same time,
same place. Charlie Kirk is going to take us out.
See then, God bless America.
Speaker 8 (42:27):
All right, I have a seat everybody who's excited to
be here in Tampa, Florida for the Student Action Summit.
This is the largest student Action summit in history by far,
nearly double the size of the one that we had
a couple of years ago. And for those of you
that are visiting that are not students, we give the
(42:47):
best seats to students for a reason, because.
Speaker 3 (42:50):
These students every day.
Speaker 8 (42:54):
Are on the front lines being smared, being slandered, being canceled,
being kicked out of classes, kicked out of fraternities, kicked
out of sororities. These are the students that worked so
hard to register voters this last election. These are the
students that start these chapters. They are the vanguard for
saving this country. Thirteen years ago when I first started
(43:15):
turning point USA and this journey began. If you would
have told me thirteen years later that we would have
someone running for the presidency as a Republican winning the
youth vote in major states, I would say, how would
that be possible? Thirteen years ago we started the journey,
and it was chapter by chapter, student by student, person
by person, prove me wrong by prove me wrong, liberal
(43:39):
by liberal, proving one wrong at a time, and billions
and billions of years later. What happened in November was
a shot heard around the world. You see, all Kamala
Harris needed to do was get younger people to vote
at the same margins that Joe Biden got them to
vote back in twenty twenty. Did you know that baby
boomers moved three points more Democrat back in November, Ah,
(44:04):
But younger voters moved twenty two points to the right
in November. The youth delivered the White House to Donald Trump.
The next generation rose up in record numbers, and I
started to see it at the prove me wrongs across America.
We would just start with a couple hundred students and
(44:24):
all of a sudden, like a thousand students would come,
and all of a sudden, they'd be wearing red hats
as far as the eye could see. I said, there's
something profound happening in this country. There's something that is deep,
that is larger than what the media is covering. And
we turned that red maga hat from a symbol that
everybody was afraid to wear back in twenty sixteen, we're
(44:47):
now in twenty twenty four. We turned that into a
symbol of hope, into a symbol of optimism, of patriotism
and taking back our country. Back in November, when we
rose up, voters saw President Trump as a lifeline. President
Donald Trump represented for them a way to try to
(45:07):
get everybody's attention that things were not all right for
this generation. You see, I spend a lot of time
talking the next generation. We just did an entire prove
me wrong with many of you out in the hall.
I did over one hundred hours of campus debates this
last semester, two hundred hours in one year, over sixty
five campuses that I visit, and a through line is repeated,
(45:28):
whether they're Republican or Democrat, or.
Speaker 3 (45:30):
Conservative or liberal.
Speaker 8 (45:31):
There is an angst, there's an uneasiness, there is a worry,
there is a concern, and they say in no uncertain terms, Charlie,
I'm trying to get my leader's attention. I can't afford
a home, I can't afford basic necessities.
Speaker 3 (45:46):
If I ask.
Speaker 8 (45:47):
A girl out on a date and I get one
word wrong, she could report me for sexual harassment. I
am surrounded by this political correctness. Or if I don't
get the pronouns correct of the transactivists next to me
in class, it could be the end of my career.
My town, my city is flooded by illegal aliens.
Speaker 3 (46:08):
Charlie.
Speaker 8 (46:08):
When will my leaders start fighting for me and my generation?
I hear every single day from you and this audience,
the students, Charlie. Why is it that we spend hundreds
of billions of dollars on wars abroad, but our own
generation has to go endlessly in debt to pay our
medical bills and suffer under credit card debt. Why is
it that are young. Why you, the next generation, have
(46:32):
to compete to buy a home against a Chinese oligarch.
Let me be very clear, no foreign national should be
allowed to own single family homes until this generation can
have the same homes that their parents have. And this
angst and this unease built up and built up, and
(46:54):
it culminated in the election of Donald Trump. The youth
delivered the White House for President Trump. And understand that
now six seven months later, we've inherited in disordered economy
from Joe Biden. If we do not deliver on economic promises,
especially for the next generation, if we do not make
you owners of this economy, not just renters of this economy,
(47:18):
then you're going to see a lot more Zo Ron,
Mam Dunnies. Now we should booz so ran Momdnnie. The
guy is a bigot, anti civilization to his core, anti American,
anti Western, wants to nationalize or make all the grocery
stores run by the government, defund the police.
Speaker 3 (47:36):
All that is garbage.
Speaker 8 (47:38):
But we failed to understand why he is rising.
Speaker 2 (47:42):
Yeah, part of it is.
Speaker 8 (47:43):
That people in New York are not like you wonderful
people here in Florida.
Speaker 3 (47:46):
That's partially it but there's a deeper thing at play.
Speaker 8 (47:53):
Younger voters are trying to get their leader's attention. We
can't afford anything. Homes are out of rea. I'm tired
of renting all the time, and I have zero equity
to my name.
Speaker 3 (48:05):
If we do not solve.
Speaker 8 (48:06):
The economic disorder that is facing this generation, from the debts,
the deficits, student loan debt, cost of living, then Mom,
Donnie will just be the beginning of what you're going
to see in communities across the country. So what is
the solution. Well, the solution is what President Trump is
trying to do every single day, and we need more
of it. We need double and tripling down on it.
(48:27):
Starting with those of you that are looking for a job.
You should not have to compete against a foreigner for
your job. American college graduates should come first, and that
starts with President Donald Trump. And this will affect everybody
in this room, regardless of age. It is time for
the largest deportation effort this country has ever seen. If
(48:52):
you are here illegally, you are deported from the United
States of America. Period, no amnesty, repeat after no amnesty period,
end up story.
Speaker 3 (49:04):
We will not put up.
Speaker 8 (49:05):
With any exceptions, any carbouts, any loopholes, any exceptions, any asterisks,
any iotas. I don't care if it's ten years or
fifteen years. We voted for mass deportations, we did not
vote for mass amnesty, and we expect our leaders to
deliver it and bring back our country to a place
of citizenship and Americans being put first.
Speaker 9 (49:31):
Got to admire what you've been able to do, not
to weaponize, but to organize on these college campuses.
Speaker 3 (49:38):
At Turning Point USA.
Speaker 8 (49:39):
We've spent thirteen years building the machine, and last year
we sought payoff. Our grassroots army is making a real difference.
Help us keep the momentum going. Donate today and keep
TPUSA strong on campuses across America, and
Speaker 10 (49:52):
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