June 22, 2022 • 49 mins
Leah and Demetri are fired up about today's hot topics which include a lawyer that hid a GoPro in a cat's litter box, a couple of real-life Robin Hoods that hacked into gas pumps to lower the price of gas, and a robber that tried to evade police...in a kayak.
All that plus today's main case about the Netflix documentary "Keep Sweet: Pray and Obey" that covers the extremely disturbing behavior of polygamist Warren Jeffs.
It's real, it's time and they're definitely crimes.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Real Time Crime. Welcome back to Real Time Crime. I'm
your host, Leo Lamar, and I have with me my
very good friend. Oh my god, I promised myself I
wouldn't cry. Do you want to have an acceptance speech?
There is there anyone you want to thank? I mean, listen,
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the only person I have right now to thank is you.
You're calling me your very good friend. Listen, listen. Very
good friend doesn't mean close friend. It doesn't mean best friend.
And you know it could very good friend could be
like a work acquaintance. Hold on, I'm rewriting my acceptance speech. Okay, okay,
you're out. Oh oh no, I'm out. Um, all right, Well,
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anyway back to me. Thank you so much. I am
very excited for this episode. Today we're gonna be talking
about a lawyer. This is a weird transition because I
said I'm very excited about this episode, and now this
first case is. But I think it's because sometimes that
things are very dark, and not that these aren't like
kind of weird stories, but they're a little more fun
than than well, at least to start. Well. So, the
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first one is about a guy who hid a camera
and kitty litter during a teens graduation r Rand Pedophile,
and our next one is about two men hacking a
gate Geese station and selling gas at a discounted rate.
And then our last hot topic for today is about
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alleged robber who flees from police by hopping into a
kayak which then capsizes L O L. We'll get into that,
and our main case for today is about the new
Netflix show that's streaming movie documentary, Keep Sweet, Pry and obey.
You know it's about Mormons, so you already know where
this is going, especially if it's in a true crime podcast, y'all.
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I just want to let you know I'm in New York.
I'm in my hometown, New York, New York. I've got
shows every day. If you're a New Yorker or in
the Try state. Yeah, and you want to come see
me live, please come and introduce yourselves to me. Not
during the show though, well that usually happens whether I
want them to or not. And I will tell you
about this during the Mormon segment, because do I have
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a story for you, oh boy segment. The one time
that I bombed, I just swept through my shirt was
in Phoenix, Arizona with a table of Mormons. But I'll
explain that later anyway, So you guys, I'm wearing a
T shirt, which I never do. It's very uncomfortable for
me to be seen in um popper clothing. Why is
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that to me? T shirts or like what you wear
to bed? Okay, but but people wear them all the time.
So yeah, I'm not people, Dmitri. I'm me. I'm trying
trying to rack my brain and think of what you
wear normally. I know you wear turtlenecks sometimes, but were turtlenecks.
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That's my whole thing. I only wear long sleep turtlenecks. Yeah, time,
in this summertime, I own fourteen black turtlenecks. Okay, one
is addressed, one is a crop top, one has no
sleeves and is a crop top. But I still need
to have the black turtleneck. I mean it's there's a variety.
In the summertime, you were turtlenecks. Yeah, okay, Well we're stumbling, acro.
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I don't think we have enough time in this episode
of Christmas Vacation. I just hate that you and my
therapist say the same thing. Yeah, I don't think we're
gonna get to that this session, but um, this is
a longer discussion. My mental illness is thriving in New
York anyway. I am here in NYC really just living
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my best life. I'm I'm witnessing crimes left and right
here are you guys. I just have to say, New York,
you are You are disgusting and you know what you've done.
It's dirty, It's dirty. I'm from New York as well,
and I'm it's sad to hear this, but I will
admit when I look at the news, is a lot
out of crime coming out of New York right now.
I mean, there's a lot of crime coming out of
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l A. I know l A has changed because it's
a super liberal city. And on the highway there used
to be signs that say banned guns or gun control now,
but now the science says story or guns safely. So
it's like even the liberals have guns and tarp your load,
which I'm I think that's just for truckers with open
I think that's what they say to Amber. Heard yet funny, yep,
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yet funny. That's that's where I come in. All right,
let's get into our hot topics for today. You guys,
this first case is actually quite disturbing in my opinion.
A lawyer is arrested after a hitting cameras found in
kitty litter in the bathroom during a teen's graduation party.
California lawyer by the name of Charles Gideon Correll was
arrested after, like I said, they find this camera in
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kitty litter at a seventeen year old students graduation party.
He's forty four. He was arrested did on charges of
misdemeanor for electronic peeping. He was taken to County Jail
in San Francisco, Marin County and reportedly the bail was
in at fifteen thousand, in my opinion, not high enough.
According to the police department there, they were called to
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the home on June fifteenth, day after my birthday. Few
keeping that day holy after the residents found a GoPro
camera in a cat litter box that had been placed
in the bathroom. The camera had been recording for approximately
thirty minutes prior to being discovered. No one at the
party admitted they owned the camera. Pleae seize the camera
and leader found footage of Correll allegedly recording himself putting
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the camera in the litter see, and that's why I
said this. Obviously, this is a disturbing story and it's disgusting,
but you and I like to make fun of people, right.
This guy is a lawyer, right, and he's like supposedly
representing people, but he goes to do something disgusting like
this and accidentally turns on the go pro and records himself.
Setting it up like be a big or more on dude. Yeah,
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maybe he just assumed the cats didn't have to poop
that badly and wouldn't be moving things around so people
wouldn't find it. But I mean, like he literally just
pointed the camera like he wanted to be incriminated. In
my opinion, I think, you know, sometimes when I hear
about stories like this, I'm like, do you have such
a much bigger fish to fry that you'd rather be
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in jail than in the outdoors. I mean maybe, but
I don't think he did this on purpose. I don't
think he recorded himself on purpose. I think he's an idiot,
and I think he was like, all right, let me
turn this on so it records and let me get
into place, thinking maybe maybe he'll retrieve it later or
likes he's like, yeah, it's working. It's like that scene
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from Meet the Parents when Ben Stiller is talking to
the camera the whole time. I love it. Yeah, and
I honestly don't remember that movie at all, but but
I agree. I'm just gonna agree. Yeah, yeah, you know me.
Um So, I don't know I think that, do you
think he I mean, obviously, if he's putting a go
pro in there, he intentionally wanted to record guests. As
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my thought, uh yeah, for sure. I mean, you don't
hide a camera in someone else's bathroom because you want
to get footage of cats going to the bathroom. I mean,
you never know, he could be uh into beast reality.
Then he should have his own cat and record that. No,
he went there to a graduation party with seventeen year
olds and eighteen year olds and he set up a
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camera in the bathroom because why because he's disgusting, you
know it. Fittingly it was with the litter box, because
he's a piece of ship. I wonder how close he
was to the family because he knew there was gonna
be a litter box in there. I mean, he was
familiar enough with the home and the bathroom to know
that there was going to be a place for him
to dig a little hole and hide it, which I
think a GoPro. Honestly, it's it's small, but it's not
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that small. It is noticeable. You know. It's not one
of those little hitting cameras you buy at a super
audio store that's just like a little dot that you'd
put on your shirt or something that you'd see in
aimes bond. You know, it's it's sizeable. It's want to
step away from him hiding in the shower with one
of those old fashioned VHS things on his shoulder. That
would be more of like an indie film, you know,
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that'd be like really artful, but yeah, this is more
like weird black mirror, poorly done sort of situation. I mean,
I just love the idea of him digging through cat
litter to then put uh camera in it and having
just like just what did you think would happen? Because
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when you think about it, right, you need the lens
to be clear to record, so it would be visible
no matter what it's like he wanted to get caught in,
my opinion depends unless it's one of those that has
like the cover or like a door and the cat
just kind of walks in. It was aiming out like,
I don't know about cat litter to me treat. That's
what I'm starting to realize. I don't I don't know.
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I don't have a cat, but um but I'm familiar
with the litter. I don't know. But I don't know
that he necessarily knew this family. Like maybe he just
brought a go pro and he's like, listen, I'm gonna
do something perfect. Let me go into the bathroom and
see where I can hide this. And then was quick
enough to be like, oh, hey, here's catletter. Let me
try that because I'm so smart. I'm I'm so interested
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to see the all other footage from the go pro.
That's just like from Chuck E Cheese. I mean, this
guy sounds like a I don't feel like this was
his first rodeo, No, although it's his first time setting
it up and recording himself setting it up that we
know of. That's true, that's true, that we know of.
I mean, you know every party has a pooper, yeah, literally,
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and sometimes you hide it in it. I this is
why I'm fine. The story is disgusting. The reason I'm
finding some pleasure in talking about This is because this
douche got caught, right, and he got caught by doing
something stupid and and he didn't like But I can't
get over the fact that this is a forty four
year old lawyer. People go to this guy and they're like, hey,
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I need I need help view from you getting me
out of this situation, I mean, or whatever, defending me
whatever lawyer he may bee. Well, this is kind of
like a um those who can't do teach sort of mentality.
What if he's like, maybe this time I'll do the
crab and I'll be the one to get away with
it or have done I don't know, you know whatever. Anyway, more,
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all of the story is see you later, sucker. I
have a feeling he they're going to raid his house
and find a lot more footage. Is probably because I agree,
I don't think this is like, oh, I just had
an idea. But the question is, um, I guess I
was reading the story and I'm not sure if he
stuck around the party or if he like set it
up and left. But they found it right, and then
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they started asking people whose is it and no one
said yes, no one said it was there is obviously,
But then once they like, was he there? When people
look at her? The take the camera and find the like.
But that's so great. Imagine being in a room of
people and everyone being like, do you know who the
perfect is here? Does? Does anyone want to raise their
hand to being the Purv? Anyone want to be the Purv? Yeah?
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Like you can't raise your hand? Oh my god, that
just dropped right out of my pocket and started recording.
How weird is that where I lost it? I was
going splunking later and really needed it. What's his alibi? Insanity?
Cat fetish? Like I mean, I'm always going to plead insanity.
Cat fetish would honestly be the smart way to go,
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I think, because then he just wouldn't be able to
ever have a cat, which, in my opinion, is the
way to go. Yeah, but I don't want him to
get off, so I hope they well, he is getting
off to something. Okay, you guys. This next story, honestly,
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I find kind of funny. Two men are accused of
hacking a gas station and selling gas at a counted rate.
Police took two men into custody and Virginia Beach and
accused them of hacking gas pumps and at a discounted rate.
Like I said, officer later learned that devices were being
used to illegally access gas pumps. The gas was then
being sold at a lower rate through a phone app
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and was being advertised on social media. Again, people just
will want to get caught. Police have not confirmed the
exact amount of gas that was stolen. However, they've determined
that thousands of dollars of gas were taken from the
business over several days. Authorities say the incident is still
an active investigation. Police are advertising advertising. Can you imagine
if the police were like advertising, Hey, we're the police.
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Here's what we do. You know? Okay, police are advising
local gas stations that close overnights or of view security
footage should ensure they have not been victims as well. Okay,
before we get into this, I would say these guys
are modern day heroes there to me and the Robin
Robin Hoods, stealing from the rich and giving to the point,
I mean, the crime is that gas is so high.
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They are trying to help people. I don't I don't
think you should hack into other people's things, and but this,
I honestly I don't really have a problem with this
because gas prices, as we've learned, are I believe high
really for no reason, right, just gouging. So I'm sorry
if the person that owned the gas station didn't have
a say and how much it is. I don't know
how that all works, but I'm fascinated by the fact
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that they hacked into a gas station pumps, lowered the prices,
and gave people cheap gas. I mean, DM treat do
you understand I have been traveling so much just to
avoid paying gas. I would rather fly across the country
and take public transportation than pay for gas. In l A,
I was there for one week. I filled my tank
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up and it was a hundred dollars dollars and it
lasted me three days. And sadly, your your airline tickets
are probably cheaper than filling up your gas tank that much. Yes,
a thousand dollars in airline tickets is actually less than
a hundred dollars. That's how that's how transportation money works.
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But I actually didn't even know it was possible to
hack gas bumps, and now that I do, I would
like for these guys to do a YouTube tutorial, even
if they were wearing masks or something or had those
little uh mosaics over their face so you don't know
who they are and just remained anonymous. Teach me how
to dog e, Teach me how to hack the gas pump.
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I want to hack the gas pump. Take me to
jail because I'm doing something that's right for me. I
don't know that, FRITI sure, no, and said that before.
I also just feel like I'm actually surprised that I
haven't heard about this more often. Yeah, well, I didn't
know that you could do that. I didn't know that
gas tanks were hackable. I think they got to get
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these guys out of jail, and that this should be
part of a bigger movement. Two teach people how to
hack gas bumps. It's it's not often here at real
time crime that we side with the criminal. But I
think we're in agreement. Um. I hope nothing happens to
these guys. I hope they get a slap on the
wrist and and they go out. If they start doing
it to like banks and taking people's money, I have
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a problem with it. But you're right, this is a
bit of a Robin Hood story. No, I feel like
I'm getting robbed every time I go to the gas station,
I'm like, you're literally stealing my money. They should not
cost a hundred dollars to fill up a Honda. And
and and from what I understand from watching all different
kinds of news, not just one shan't one network or
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something like that, is that these prices are high and
they don't need to be this high. They don't need
to be this high. And um, agreed, is a lot
of it. And I think that, you know, everyone's just
trying to survive, and I get that. But also these
gas stations can market up the prices to whatever they want.
They still want to make a profit, so which is
understandable to business. But you know, some of them are
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really greedy. I mean in West Hollywood I saw some
were like over seven dollars per gallant. That's insane. And
also I'm wondering, like are they going to be treated
as if it was an armed robbery? Like will they
be treated as if they were robbing a person versus
a property, you know, a business. I feel like they
deserve less punishment period. Yeah, I agree, like, fine, return
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the money, but that's it, and then let them move
on with their lives so that they can do it
again but not get caught. The only person heard in
this is the actual individual owner of that gas station,
and I don't know, and that person has been ripping
people up for years. It's almost like a taste of
their own medicine. You know. I'm I'm I'm a I'm
team robber, Team criminal, We're team criminal. Speaking of team criminal.
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Criminal fleas from police by hopping into a kayak which
then capsizes, which is honestly a shot him Fred. If
you ask me like instant karma, I love nothing more
than instant karma. Like when you say something bad about
someone that you step in dogshit, it's like, well the
ship came out of your mouth and now you got it.
So I just keep talking about amber her. But I
don't mean to, you know. Okay, So an alleged thief
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in Alabama tried to evade police by hopping into kayak
in a river, which capsized immediately after. So several people
called the police on Friday to report this man. He
was allegedly seen wandering through backyards and stealing a lawnmower
and leaf blower. People calmed down, you know, some residents
had confronted the man by early afternoon, prompting him to
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flee to the Coosa River. Officers arrived soon after and
tracked the suspect down the river. He didn't get far
before the kayak flipped and he started swimming to the bank,
where officers were waiting for him with a sad thing
to just like just just swim up to your doom.
You're wet, you're cold. And then the police are like
all right, and they just cut you. Good job, buddy,
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you know, sorry you didn't make the Olympics. Um. So
apparently he was also tackled and arrested. I mean, if
I was just coming out of swimming in a river,
I would be too tired to do anything. You wouldn't
need to tackle me. I'd just be roll. I would
keel over dead. I'd like, just take me away, just
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give can can I just get like a h a
blanket and a saying that the police acted incorrectly. I
don't care that they tackled him. I'm just thinking it
doesn't sound like this guy is really bright enough to
get away. They they were probably just having a little fun.
I would just really want a trauma blanket after that.
It's like, it's like, you guys didn't traumatize me. I
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traumatized myself. But but so then so then he was
charged with burglary, theft of property, attempt to elude, and
resisting arrest. So I guess he was being combative when
they picked him up at the river, and apparently he
was stealing items to sell. This is what he said.
He was stealing items to sell so he could get
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his girlfriend's vehicle out of impound. Oh, he's a Robin hood.
He's of another we got another team criminal on our hands.
You know, now you're not I mean stealing a lawnmower
and like a leaf blower. That's really sad, that's desperate.
But also what was his Like did he hide the
kayak there? Like that was his getaway? Was he going
to take a lawnmower and a leaf blower in a
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kayak and go down the river to get away his
getaway kayak? I mean if the whole thing reeks of stupidity, yeah,
I mean. Also the other thing is if you're stealing
leaf blowers and lawnmowers, I'm like, are you just trying
to start a company in gardening and landscaping? Because you're
not going to make that much money. I mean, it's
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it's interesting because if he was serious, that's a very
sweet gesture, very stupid, but sweet gesture to get his
girlfriend's car out of an impound And and now, because
we know he didn't have a getaway car because it
was impounded, he had to take a kayak. It was
the next best mode of transportation, although I think a
bicycle would have done him much better, and clearly didn't
practice how to operate, you know, how to use a
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kayak on a river. Also, you don't escape from the
police on a river. There's one way to go. They
go down further down the river and they wait for you, like,
where are you going? Yeah, either that or you go
off a waterfall and die. It's like, there's not much
at the end of a river, right, And and I
don't haven't really hung out there, but I can't imagine
rivers in Alabama are awesome to hang out. I'm sure
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there's more crime happening in the river than on the land.
The police actually had bigger fish to fry than catching
this guy. They're like, so those guys are dealing meth
out there, but we gotta got to this one guy
who stole a leaf blower. You know, it's really about
the principle of the matter. I mean. The other thing is, uh,
the story is interesting in the first place because the
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residents were confronting him before law enforcement came into play.
And I'm like, if someone was stealing something from my backyard,
would I go run after him and be like, hey,
come back here with my leaf blower? Would I assume
that this person was armed and dangerous? Or you know,
it's crazy because when people steal, right, this isn't him
breaking into a house with a gun and stealing a
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diamond necklace. It's a little different. This is like, in
my opinion, desperate. And so something happened to me during
the pandemic where I got in my car and then
I noticed all these papers in the passenger seat and
I look over and I see that the glove compartment
is open. I was like, did I just leave a
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mess in my car? That's so weird. I guess I
could have done that, like I'm pretty sloppy. And then
I look over at my steering wheel and someone had
broken into my car. I didn't realize, and they stole
the air bag off my steering wheel, which apparently is
such an expensive part that it almost totaled my car.
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Isn't that crazy? That's how expensive it is. And you
had to be a pro. It's an expert move to
be able to remove just the air bag office steering wheel.
Apparently that it was like a huge crime that was
happening in l A during the pandemic because they could
sell apart for a lot of money on the black market,
and people were desperate for money. And I just thought,
I just I don't know. I just thought to the
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probably sell them like Junkyards and stuff, and I just thought, like, wow,
you know what, this person really needed this more than
I do. I'm lucky that I'm insurance. It's annoying I
have to pay a five deductible, but I'm safe. I
wasn't confronted by the robber. I do feel violated, like
your car is like a house on wheels, you know
what I mean like that, So to think that someone
was sitting in my seat in my car, you know,
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it doesn't feel good. Um, but I was not harmed,
and I just think, you know, this person really needed
it for whatever they needed. They needed it more than
I did. I'll be okay. I was frustrated. I was annoying.
I felt violated. It still sucks, but it's definitely a
different crime than someone entering your house and threatening to
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harm you, or entering your house and stealing stuff. To
your original point, if someone broke into my house and
I like walked in the room and saw them, I
would most likely I would think they would be a
little more brazen and I think maybe more dangerous, So
I'd probably back out and you know, try and hopefully
they didn't see me. So I would not confront because
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if they saw you, they'd be like, oh my god,
you guys, it's Dmitri from Real Time Crime. We gotta
we gotta get out of this house. You know he
knows all about Yeah, they'd be just the super fans.
They'd be like, I'm so sorry, we actually came to
see yourself, but can we just get your autographs? Oh
my god, are you gonna rip us on the podcast?
This is awesome? Can we actually is this? I know
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this is weird, but like, can we come on the podcast?
We don't leah right now? Where is she? Um? No?
But if so, if someone was in the house, I
would consider them more dangerous and I would probably not
confront them. If I was there and I saw someone
in my backyard, I would yell like hey, and then
depending on their reaction, if they ran, then I would
feel more comfortable kind of going out after them. If
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they just stood there, if they started walking to the house,
then I would alter my plans. I know this sounds crazy,
but these sorts of situations are the type of situations
that make me wish I was really good with a
bone arrow, you know, like I just had expert aim
where I could be like, I just want to graze
their leg in a way that they're like, oh, no,
I should drop this because this person is in dangerous
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but they're crazy. Yeah, how nice would it be to
tell the cops listen, look for the guy that has
an arrow sticking out of his calf. That's my guy. Yeah.
I don't want it to be a life threatening injury,
just something that slows him down or makes them think
twice about stealing my property or hurting me or anyone
I know, and move on with my life. You know,
it's a real Robin Hen move for sure. I mean
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it's a bow and arrow. Yeah, I I go with
crossbow or bow and arrow overgun any day. I mean
it's got to feel good to see someone stealing your stuff,
violating your property and just shoot an arrow across the
yard into their ass. It's such a funny way to
attack someone. I'm gonna get a bow and arrow. Yeah,
I think it's like very sixteen hundreds renaissance of us. Yeah.
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I would just be like, this person is mentally ill,
and like you're stealing from me? Bro right, can you
image to the trial? They're like, uh, and then he
chased me with a bow and arrow. What Yeah, well
I was just doing target practice, barrow. Thank you so
much for your help. All right, anyway, Um, and I
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don't buy this. Sorry. One of the last thing I
don't buy that it is there's no sympathy here. And
he his girlfriend's car was impounded, so he was trying
to figure that out on your own. That's not someone
else's problem. That's not like, let me go steal from
someone else because my girlfriend didn't pay her her mobile
violations or whatever the hell it is. Look, I'm gonna
be honest with you. I'm on team criminal here. If
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if he was being honest and it was a sweet gesture,
is a stupid act and he's not stealing anything irreplaceable
or super expensive. He just sounds like very sad time
in his life. We would just like to announce right
now in the podcast that this is all a result
of Lea being in love and still on that romantic
honeymoon stage. She loves the idea of of a re
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and being romanced, and the fact that her new boyfriend
may go steal leafblowers to get her car out of impound. You, guys,
chivalry is not dead. It's not, but this isn't it anyway.
Take a break. We're gonna take a break. Yeah, we're
gonna take a break. You guys, will be right back.
Don't touch that dial. I love saying that. I don't
know why, it doesn't make any sense. I just like
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to be like a weird nineteen eighties radio host. Hey,
leave us a voicemail, let us know thumbs up or
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I like it. I love that. Don't touch that dial.
We'll be right back. Stay safe, don't commit any grimes. Hey,
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it's us Leon Dmitri with Real Time Crime. Welcome back,
Welcome back again, Welcome again. Back, welcome back, not touching
the dial again, welcome back. Thanks for not touching the dial,
you guys. I'm sorry. I'm sorry that I've changed. Okay,
I'm happy. I don't know what else to say. This
is ah, it's not working good for my comedy either.
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I go on stage and I'm like, hey, you love birds.
Everyone's everyone doing. They're like, I'm like, I don't know,
just happy to be here. They're like boo, all right,
So yeah, people only love you when you're miserable on
stage because misery loves company. So I'm gonna find fighting
with him. Yeah, you can find misery and happiness and
still be happy. Don't worry, it's there. Oh okay, so
I just have to wait a couple of years into
the relationship. No, this is just this is a whole
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new thing. Like you have all these things that you've
that you've done your comedy about. Now it's like you
just got a brand new slate and it's like, oh,
I can I can tap into all this stuff new material.
I just started doing jokes about him, Yeah, and I
lose the audience pretty quickly. They're like, man, do you
know when I posted him on my Instagram story publicly,
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I lost two thousand followers in less in twenty four hours.
When I posted you and him, I gained two thousands.
I actually screenshot every DM that was like I'm leaving.
I'm like, what did you think was going to happen?
I've never even I don't know who you are, and
I don't mean that in a mean way. I've just
never met you. Like, what did you did you think
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we were gonna get married? I don't understand, right, But also, okay, go,
so wait, so you're leaving? I post meaning you you
post comedy and you post podcasts and stuff like that,
and they're gonna leave because you're in a relationship, Like,
I don't know what your incent was. It really doesn't
make sense. And we don't try to make sense of
things that are nonsensical, because that's the whole point of nonsense,
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to not make sense. Speaking of not making sense, thank you,
let's just hop right into our main story. Guys. This
is about the doc that's streaming on Netflix right now.
It's called Keep Sweet, Prey, and Obey. It's a true
crime series that delves into the cultural practices and abuses
committed by an extremist offshoot of the Mormon Church known
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as the Fundamist Church of Jesus Rice of Latter day Saints.
The doc tells the horrifying true story of the leader
and known polygamist, Warren Jeff's. Director Rachel Dretson says she
made this to give victims a chance to tell their stories.
For the first time. In this doc, we learned how
some women were able to escape, Thank God. It features
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disturbing interviews with ex communicates of the f LDS Church,
some of whom had intimate relationships with Jeff's. Warren Jeff's. Also,
I hate that his last name is Jeff's plural. I mean,
I hate everything about him, but yeah, but Jeff's. It's like, okay,
Warren Jeff's was made a prophet in two thousand two.
First of all, I'm sorry, but like, if you're going
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to be a prophet after y two k you're not
a real prophet. The real profits were before two thousand
and everyone knows that, Okay, I'm sorry. Just like a
modern day problems, I'm we're all modern day prophets. Have
you gone on? TikTok? It's like everyone's got an opinion,
all right by the time of his arrest, Jeff's had
married seventy eight women, some of whom he inherited from
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his father. That's so odd to just treat women like
objects that that just goes in a contract. Were like,
all right, so when I die, you get to have
sex with her. It's like, huh is this passed down?
I mean, that's so disturbing. I can't even the word
inherited is in regards to women is unfathomable to me. Okay,
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take take your pick. Like seventy eight wives, that's discussing
in a problem, inherited from his father. That's discussing a problem.
And then it says twenty four of them were underage one, twelve, Yeah,
I mean, yeah, alright. So Warren Jeff's rose to power
and succeeded his father Rulan, and how his authority and
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rule created an extremely repressive system in which corruption and abuse,
including the sexual abuse of miners, escalated. He also married
off countless underage girls to other adult men were his. Yeah,
I wonder how he treated his own daughters. Jeff's is
currently serving a life sentence for his crimes. Despite his conviction,
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he's still considered a prophet and president of the f
l d s and his thousands of followers. If we're honest,
thousands is not that large. I mean, I doubt he's
even verified on Instagram. The crazy thing is that Warren
Jeff no, just get the joking. You have a family,
you can't Okay, send it to me. I don't have
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a family yet. Um. The crazy thing is that Warren
Jeff's documented everything, so all that archival footage actually helped
seal his fate in court. This is the same as
every story so far. You're advertising fake at of cheap gas,
You're recording yourself on camera as a pedophile. It's like,
why are everyone just wants to get caught? It's so odd,
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Like why do you keep these people? It's like they're well,
they're not pro criminals, that's clear. Because of are pro criminals.
They would trace their steps. Haven't they watched any movies? See?
I think this is different. I think this guy is
a pro criminal because of the years that he's been
doing this and the ship that he's done. I think
he got to that point like a lot of people
do when they hide behind religion and they act like
I'm doing this for God, so I'm untouchable. I think
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he felt like he was untouchable, but he documented everything,
so it's like, you're an idiot, so he's But can
he be a pro criminal and an idiot? Like in
my opinion, pro criminals are people who don't get caught. Yeah,
we're I'm in our minds. It's the hollywoods even these
are not the oceans eleven people to the idiots, right, Okay,
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So just just for reference, everyone knows polygamy is illegal
in the US, to be clear, Although although I know
this sounds possibly scandalous, I feel like in the next
ten years, polygamy will not be illegal because of the
way that people are starting to intermingle and the way
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that society is is changing toward just gender relations, sex relations. Um.
It feels like there I know personally a lot of
people who do not identify as monogamous, and they have
a lot of power and are famous and their celebrities,
people you would know. I just feel like polygamy is
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one of those things that maybe three thousand years ago
was seen as a crime, just like how marijuana was
illegal but is now being decriminalized or becoming legal in places.
I feel like polygamy will be legal at some point
in the US. It might take a while, but I
think it will be legal at some point. Yeah. Um. Well,
Also there's a there's an overall kind of feeling at
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least that I feel that as a as a country,
we're kind of the escalator reversed course and now we're
moving backwards. The things that we've gone forward on I
think are now going backwards. And I think so I
thought that's where you're going at first, not that would
become more acceptable, but that's not how things are, just
reverting back to things that we had thought. We had
all agreed. This isn't great. Oh you're like, so monogamy
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is is now illegal as well? No one is allowed
to have sex? Um Yeah, no, no, I mean that
I get as well. I mean, especially with Roe v.
Wade and everything that's going on with abortion, and I mean,
I don't know, it's like one step forward, two steps back. Yeah,
but we still we still keep taking that one step forward.
I don't know anyway. That has nothing to do with
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what we're talking about right now. After Okay, so after
years of committing these crimes, the victims that came forward
and made it possible to arrest and convict Warren Jeff's
for rape. Warren was convicted of two counts of child
sexual assault in two thousand eleven. I'm actually surprised is
only two and at that time Jeff was already behind
bars for being an accomplice to rape, a crime. He
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was convicted up in two thousand and seven after spending
a year on the FBI's most wanted list. He's serving
time at louis See Powlidge Unit, a prison in Palestine, Texas.
That's interesting. He was given a life sentence plus twenty
years back in that. Did they just do that to
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be like, hey, we really don't with you. I always
wondered that there's some there's some little legal tinge to it,
but I don't know what it is, but it does
sound like just in case you die and come back.
Maybe that's what I was just thinking, Like if you
have a heart attack, you're technically dead, but then come
back and some lawyer is like, there's a loophole. He
he did die? Um, wow, man, there's a loophole for everything. Huh.
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Did we just stumble across something and solve it ourselves?
We did? We did. And I just want to say
to all the lawyers out there getting people off after
a life sentence and for having them fake heart attacks
and and dropping dead. You're smart. Wow, you really you
found a good one. But I'm glad he now has
that plus twenty years and he won't be eligible for
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parole until July. I mean, that's not that far away.
It's sixteen years. It's actually not timesline. But apparently he
tried to hang himself when he went in in two
thousand seven. I mean, well, he was trying to pull
on Epstein quote unquote, but I don't think Epstein killed himself.
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Warren Jeff's is allowed visits from family in prison and
still runs the sect. So crazy, And in two thousand
and six, the Mormon Church sent out a statement saying
it was misleading and inaccurate to call him a Mormon.
So the Mormon Church kind of denounces this guy, and
yet he's still running the Latter day Saints. It doesn't
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really make any sense. But the Church of Jesus Christ
of Latter day Saints discontinued the practice of polygamy in
eighteen nineteen a manifesto, and then in four a second
manifesto was established for excommunication as a punishment for those
who refused to stop the practice of polygamy. All right,
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so look, a lot of this is kind of odd.
I will just say when I was in Phoenix, Arizona,
I was doing a show and the first half hour
of the show was like the best thirty minutes of
my life of comedy. And what I didn't know behind
the scenes was that there had only been like thirty
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tickets sold prior to the show, and then once the
doors opened, the show had been sold out. So they
only prepared staff for thirty people. So there was two
servers and one bouncer, and when you have a room
of two people, you need more than that. So halfway
through my set, this is after the host has gone up,
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this is after the opener has gone up, this is
after the guest spot has gone up. So this is
already like almost an hour into the show. People hadn't
gone their drinks, people hadn't gotten their food, the heat,
the a C. Wasn't working, so people start yelling in
the back, where's my food, where's my drink? I'm hungry,
And there's only one bouncer, so he can't kick all
these people. You know, It's like it just starts getting
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real tense. And then a table to my left is
a whole table of Mormons, and this guy won't stop
asking me during my set to him and his wives.
He's like, Hi, this is my wife Sarah, and this
is my wife Rachel, and this is my wife Lisa,
and we'd love to get a drink with you after
this and see where things go. And just and I
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was like, hey, I'm at work right now. It went
downhill so fast I sweat all the way through my shirt.
Security didn't kick them out and they never stopped talking
at me during my own show. And then after the show,
were we making you uncomfortable? I was like, no, not
past tense. Still, I'm at work and you were talking
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to me. I don't even talking, just like I mean talking,
but propositioning me into a forsome It was very odd,
very super disturbing. And it's like, yeah, like obviously I don't.
I'm not a fan of people interrupting comedy. It's to
begin with, right, but not even on track like this
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is he's acting as if he just bumped into you
with a diner anyway, So I so I had sex
with them? Yeah, they're coming on next week. They're coming
on me next week, and sorry, Dmitri, Dmitri, what do
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you expect? Oh please, just because I made a face
doesn't mean I didn't appreciate the joke. Okay. So it's
funny because I don't even remember hearing about the story
in the news. Yeah, no, I do. I remember hearing
about this in the news, and I remember, um, I
remember thinking how twisted it was. And I watched the
trailer for this Netflix documentary and it's like, I don't
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know that I can pretty much sit through anything. I
don't think I want to see this because I have
three daughters and I don't like it's so disturbing these
older guys that were being like given underage brides and
the whole thing, so get ready to bleeping so twisted
that it's like, I don't I just want to say,
if you know, if Dmitri curses, you know he's feeling
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sick about something, and stop hiding behind the church. Everybody, listen.
You want to be an ass, you want to be disgusting,
be it, but stop being like, oh, I'm I'm a prophet,
and this is Jesus telling me honestly, really, you're telling
me that Jesus is like, hey, Mary, underaged girls and
give me to your friends to tell everybody what they
can do with themselves. I mean, so, I don't remember
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this all unfolding, but but it's interesting because I think
it does cast a really negative not negative, but it
cast a shadow on the Mormon Church that polygamy is
continuing on a polygamy is legal in Utah or is
it just in Silver Lake not Silver Lake, Salt Lake?
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So like, um, I don't know. I feel like it's legal,
but I feel like there's some stipulations to it. But
but but it's like it just happened to me in
two where a man, a Mormon guy, had two or
three wives. Yeah, it was in September. I can't remember,
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and I'm not I'm not trying to be funny. I
can't remember if it was his three wives or two
wives and one of the women's girlfriends. M I I
literally do not remember, or if it was his girlfriend
but not wife yet. But there are three women and
it was him, and it was all a hold to do. Honestly, Um,
talking about being in a touch with reality. Let's just
go to a comedy show and we'll interrupt the act
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will act like the accent even going on, and we're
just gonna see if this girl wants to join us
over and over. I mean, you know that's one way
of doing dating in real life. Yeah, or you could
do it the way I did it. Ha ha. Just
fly across the world to find a man you're in
love with. Okay, So thank you. So yeah, stop hiding
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under religion to having as an excuse to um, you know,
be with underage girls. And I don't know, I think
do you think polygamy is different than polyamory, because polyamory
is is rampant in Hollywood. Polygamy maybe not so much.
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I know a lot of girls who are quote unquote
cool with it. You know. Oh, you know he's dating
me and like he like really he focuses on me
when we're together, and he says I love you, and
he does, but he just like loves a lot of people.
And I'm okay with it. And then like two weeks later,
like ah right, And and you also get into that
that weird area where sometimes like the two people are married,
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but then they have another person they consider their spouse.
So you get to a point you're like, well, where's
what's the difference between just the like the legal paperwork
of of intermarrying like a bunch of people. I don't know.
I'm not a super fan of all that, but I mean,
obviously the whole assigning underage girls too older met all
that ship is a whole different topic. Way no place
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in any of this. This just in, by the way.
But first of all, before I go into this just
and I just want to say, in my opinion, if
all parties are knowledge and knowledgeable about all the other partners,
and everyone is consenting to the situation of their own volition,
who am I to judge? Who am I to say no? Like,
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I think the slogan love is love applies to a
lot of different situations. However, not when it's underage. But
if you're if you're marrying two women who are of age,
and you know they are consenting to being together and
they know the situation, and it's like, who am I
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to say you can't all get married? Right? I'm not, Like,
I'm not a fan of of laws that tell people
like what they can do with Like, I agree with
what you're saying there. There are the legal laws and
that the age and all that kind of stuff. Or
or forcing someone to do something completely out the window.
I don't know. I don't know. You make a good
point there, It's it's it's hard because I do think
it is judgmental to say that marriage should only be
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between two people, especially if all parties are consenting and aware.
You know. It's like, I really do think it's it's like, what,
how is it my business? Right? Well, times have changed
so much, like it used to be like you get married,
you have kids. If it's not even like marriage isn't
even as big a thing anymore. It's not even like
something that people said I think want to do or
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have to do or any of that. So, well, that's
the other thing. It's like you're doubling down on a commitment.
I mean, it's like two women who are unsatisfied instead
of one. But I think, you know, no, I just
I find it interesting because it's like, well, under that pretense,
should having children out of wedlock be illegal? You know,
it's like, who why is this so controversial? Right? But okay, alright,
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so we've gotten off topic of what this guy did,
for sure. Yeah. But also but but we do need
to talk about what polygamy is and what polyamory is right.
Polyamory is just the capacity to or yeah, capacity to
love multiple people or be in love, and multiple people
in polygamy is marrying multiple people. Right. So polygamy is
illegal and criminalized in every country in North and South America,
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including all fifty U. S States. But in February, the
Utah House and Senate reduced the punishment for consensual polygamy,
which had previously been classified as a felony, to roughly
the equivalent of a traffic ticket. So I was right,
it is Utah and and I guess it's decriminalized quote unquote.
See this is what I'm saying. I think it's gonna
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be like weed, where it's decriminalized, and then it will
be made legal in some places, and slowly over time,
I think it will be made decriminalized or legal in
some places. And Indian, Malaysian, Philippines, and Singapore. The government's
recognize polygamist marriages, but only from Muslims. I think it's
interesting that they it's religion specific. Yeah. Well, I um,
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I have trouble with the reasoning behind it. So, like
you said, if there's people and they want to all
be married together, and I don't know who am I
to say, don't, but I feel like most of these
situations are where it's a control over the woman or
it's you know, and so that is where this goes
completely awry in my opinion. So all of us being said,
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I guess you know, watch the documentary if you have
the stomach for it. Don't eat a full meal beforehand,
because you will be sick watching it. This guy, I'm
glad that he has a life sentence plus twenty years because,
as we said, we know now, we figured it. We
got to the bottom of that real quick. People trying
to fake their deaths, but I died, shut the up. Yeah,
And I think the I think the multiple life sentences
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is because they have to assign one for each crime
if they're multiple crimes. I think that's where that comes in.
But I think we may have stumbled onto that. I
think plus twenty years is covering any legal bullshit. Yeah,
I hate, like f the loopholes, you know what I mean.
People get off on technicalities all the time, And if
you're a lawyer trying to get some piece of crap
like this out of jail, you probably have the biggest
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house in l A. Yeah, right, the richest person in
the world. Yeah, you guys, um and that's our episode
for today. I really think we've covered the gamut of
subjects really petty crime, uh, team criminal, the polygamy. We've
just been all over the place. And as always, leave
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us a voicemail. Call in. We love to hear your voice.
And if it's confessing to a crime, just please don't
let it be a really serious one. I'm not ready
for that. Emotionally, I can't add more to my mental illness, Like,
are not enough antidepressants and doctors in the world to
handle what I already have. Alright, so leave us a
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voicemail and and support my new favorite rom com which
is which is Leah's new relationship. I'm feel free to
you know, people unfollowed her for this crap. Honest, I say,
call in and voice your support. I'll pick out. I'll
pick got my favorite. We'll er it. There we go.
It's eight six eight six six tann one eight six
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six one crime. He hasn't left the bedroom yet, so
that means that he doesn't absolutely hate the song. It's
eight six six two on two seven six three. Guys
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where we find you on the internet as always. And
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if you're breaking into Dmitri's house and you want an autograph,
He's ready. That's right, I got I carry a pen
with me, so it just brings something for me to
sign at all times. Alright, guys, we love you, Stay safe,
have a good night. For Oh my god, I'll never
turn mine off. I'm like, people watch me. I need
more attention. Can't you call this guy so he can
put a camera in my bathroom? You want to see it,
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you want to see a show, Just wait till I
have Mexican food and then come back over. Anyway, I'm
pretending like my camera froze. I don't have to react
to that. Oh I'm just fist pumped the air. So
you know this means we're probably gonna get married. Guys,
love you, good night. It's real time crop. It's real
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time Grady. I mean, is it actually real time crime?
I'm solving anything? Or is that just the thing we
say it's a thing we say, got it. Okay, see
you next week for more real time crime, only on
I Heart Radio.
Real Time Crime. Welcome back to Real Time Crime. I'm
your host, Leo Lamar, and I have with me my
very good friend. Oh my god, I promised myself I
wouldn't cry. Do you want to have an acceptance speech?
There is there anyone you want to thank? I mean, listen,
(00:22):
the only person I have right now to thank is you.
You're calling me your very good friend. Listen, listen. Very
good friend doesn't mean close friend. It doesn't mean best friend.
And you know it could very good friend could be
like a work acquaintance. Hold on, I'm rewriting my acceptance speech. Okay, okay,
you're out. Oh oh no, I'm out. Um, all right, Well,
(00:44):
anyway back to me. Thank you so much. I am
very excited for this episode. Today we're gonna be talking
about a lawyer. This is a weird transition because I
said I'm very excited about this episode, and now this
first case is. But I think it's because sometimes that
things are very dark, and not that these aren't like
kind of weird stories, but they're a little more fun
than than well, at least to start. Well. So, the
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first one is about a guy who hid a camera
and kitty litter during a teens graduation r Rand Pedophile,
and our next one is about two men hacking a
gate Geese station and selling gas at a discounted rate.
And then our last hot topic for today is about
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alleged robber who flees from police by hopping into a
kayak which then capsizes L O L. We'll get into that,
and our main case for today is about the new
Netflix show that's streaming movie documentary, Keep Sweet, Pry and obey.
You know it's about Mormons, so you already know where
this is going, especially if it's in a true crime podcast, y'all.
(01:52):
I just want to let you know I'm in New York.
I'm in my hometown, New York, New York. I've got
shows every day. If you're a New Yorker or in
the Try state. Yeah, and you want to come see
me live, please come and introduce yourselves to me. Not
during the show though, well that usually happens whether I
want them to or not. And I will tell you
about this during the Mormon segment, because do I have
(02:12):
a story for you, oh boy segment. The one time
that I bombed, I just swept through my shirt was
in Phoenix, Arizona with a table of Mormons. But I'll
explain that later anyway, So you guys, I'm wearing a
T shirt, which I never do. It's very uncomfortable for
me to be seen in um popper clothing. Why is
(02:36):
that to me? T shirts or like what you wear
to bed? Okay, but but people wear them all the time.
So yeah, I'm not people, Dmitri. I'm me. I'm trying
trying to rack my brain and think of what you
wear normally. I know you wear turtlenecks sometimes, but were turtlenecks.
(02:56):
That's my whole thing. I only wear long sleep turtlenecks. Yeah, time,
in this summertime, I own fourteen black turtlenecks. Okay, one
is addressed, one is a crop top, one has no
sleeves and is a crop top. But I still need
to have the black turtleneck. I mean it's there's a variety.
In the summertime, you were turtlenecks. Yeah, okay, Well we're stumbling, acro.
(03:20):
I don't think we have enough time in this episode
of Christmas Vacation. I just hate that you and my
therapist say the same thing. Yeah, I don't think we're
gonna get to that this session, but um, this is
a longer discussion. My mental illness is thriving in New
York anyway. I am here in NYC really just living
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my best life. I'm I'm witnessing crimes left and right
here are you guys. I just have to say, New York,
you are You are disgusting and you know what you've done.
It's dirty, It's dirty. I'm from New York as well,
and I'm it's sad to hear this, but I will
admit when I look at the news, is a lot
out of crime coming out of New York right now.
I mean, there's a lot of crime coming out of
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l A. I know l A has changed because it's
a super liberal city. And on the highway there used
to be signs that say banned guns or gun control now,
but now the science says story or guns safely. So
it's like even the liberals have guns and tarp your load,
which I'm I think that's just for truckers with open
I think that's what they say to Amber. Heard yet funny, yep,
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yet funny. That's that's where I come in. All right,
let's get into our hot topics for today. You guys,
this first case is actually quite disturbing in my opinion.
A lawyer is arrested after a hitting cameras found in
kitty litter in the bathroom during a teen's graduation party.
California lawyer by the name of Charles Gideon Correll was
arrested after, like I said, they find this camera in
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kitty litter at a seventeen year old students graduation party.
He's forty four. He was arrested did on charges of
misdemeanor for electronic peeping. He was taken to County Jail
in San Francisco, Marin County and reportedly the bail was
in at fifteen thousand, in my opinion, not high enough.
According to the police department there, they were called to
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the home on June fifteenth, day after my birthday. Few
keeping that day holy after the residents found a GoPro
camera in a cat litter box that had been placed
in the bathroom. The camera had been recording for approximately
thirty minutes prior to being discovered. No one at the
party admitted they owned the camera. Pleae seize the camera
and leader found footage of Correll allegedly recording himself putting
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the camera in the litter see, and that's why I
said this. Obviously, this is a disturbing story and it's disgusting,
but you and I like to make fun of people, right.
This guy is a lawyer, right, and he's like supposedly
representing people, but he goes to do something disgusting like
this and accidentally turns on the go pro and records himself.
Setting it up like be a big or more on dude. Yeah,
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maybe he just assumed the cats didn't have to poop
that badly and wouldn't be moving things around so people
wouldn't find it. But I mean, like he literally just
pointed the camera like he wanted to be incriminated. In
my opinion, I think, you know, sometimes when I hear
about stories like this, I'm like, do you have such
a much bigger fish to fry that you'd rather be
(06:23):
in jail than in the outdoors. I mean maybe, but
I don't think he did this on purpose. I don't
think he recorded himself on purpose. I think he's an idiot,
and I think he was like, all right, let me
turn this on so it records and let me get
into place, thinking maybe maybe he'll retrieve it later or
likes he's like, yeah, it's working. It's like that scene
(06:43):
from Meet the Parents when Ben Stiller is talking to
the camera the whole time. I love it. Yeah, and
I honestly don't remember that movie at all, but but
I agree. I'm just gonna agree. Yeah, yeah, you know me.
Um So, I don't know I think that, do you
think he I mean, obviously, if he's putting a go
pro in there, he intentionally wanted to record guests. As
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my thought, uh yeah, for sure. I mean, you don't
hide a camera in someone else's bathroom because you want
to get footage of cats going to the bathroom. I mean,
you never know, he could be uh into beast reality.
Then he should have his own cat and record that. No,
he went there to a graduation party with seventeen year
olds and eighteen year olds and he set up a
(07:26):
camera in the bathroom because why because he's disgusting, you
know it. Fittingly it was with the litter box, because
he's a piece of ship. I wonder how close he
was to the family because he knew there was gonna
be a litter box in there. I mean, he was
familiar enough with the home and the bathroom to know
that there was going to be a place for him
to dig a little hole and hide it, which I
think a GoPro. Honestly, it's it's small, but it's not
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that small. It is noticeable. You know. It's not one
of those little hitting cameras you buy at a super
audio store that's just like a little dot that you'd
put on your shirt or something that you'd see in
aimes bond. You know, it's it's sizeable. It's want to
step away from him hiding in the shower with one
of those old fashioned VHS things on his shoulder. That
would be more of like an indie film, you know,
(08:11):
that'd be like really artful, but yeah, this is more
like weird black mirror, poorly done sort of situation. I mean,
I just love the idea of him digging through cat
litter to then put uh camera in it and having
just like just what did you think would happen? Because
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when you think about it, right, you need the lens
to be clear to record, so it would be visible
no matter what it's like he wanted to get caught in,
my opinion depends unless it's one of those that has
like the cover or like a door and the cat
just kind of walks in. It was aiming out like,
I don't know about cat litter to me treat. That's
what I'm starting to realize. I don't I don't know.
(08:53):
I don't have a cat, but um but I'm familiar
with the litter. I don't know. But I don't know
that he necessarily knew this family. Like maybe he just
brought a go pro and he's like, listen, I'm gonna
do something perfect. Let me go into the bathroom and
see where I can hide this. And then was quick
enough to be like, oh, hey, here's catletter. Let me
try that because I'm so smart. I'm I'm so interested
(09:13):
to see the all other footage from the go pro.
That's just like from Chuck E Cheese. I mean, this
guy sounds like a I don't feel like this was
his first rodeo, No, although it's his first time setting
it up and recording himself setting it up that we
know of. That's true, that's true, that we know of.
I mean, you know every party has a pooper, yeah, literally,
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and sometimes you hide it in it. I this is
why I'm fine. The story is disgusting. The reason I'm
finding some pleasure in talking about This is because this
douche got caught, right, and he got caught by doing
something stupid and and he didn't like But I can't
get over the fact that this is a forty four
year old lawyer. People go to this guy and they're like, hey,
(09:58):
I need I need help view from you getting me
out of this situation, I mean, or whatever, defending me
whatever lawyer he may bee. Well, this is kind of
like a um those who can't do teach sort of mentality.
What if he's like, maybe this time I'll do the
crab and I'll be the one to get away with
it or have done I don't know, you know whatever. Anyway, more,
(10:21):
all of the story is see you later, sucker. I
have a feeling he they're going to raid his house
and find a lot more footage. Is probably because I agree,
I don't think this is like, oh, I just had
an idea. But the question is, um, I guess I
was reading the story and I'm not sure if he
stuck around the party or if he like set it
up and left. But they found it right, and then
(10:41):
they started asking people whose is it and no one
said yes, no one said it was there is obviously,
But then once they like, was he there? When people
look at her? The take the camera and find the like.
But that's so great. Imagine being in a room of
people and everyone being like, do you know who the
perfect is here? Does? Does anyone want to raise their
hand to being the Purv? Anyone want to be the Purv? Yeah?
(11:04):
Like you can't raise your hand? Oh my god, that
just dropped right out of my pocket and started recording.
How weird is that where I lost it? I was
going splunking later and really needed it. What's his alibi? Insanity?
Cat fetish? Like I mean, I'm always going to plead insanity.
Cat fetish would honestly be the smart way to go,
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I think, because then he just wouldn't be able to
ever have a cat, which, in my opinion, is the
way to go. Yeah, but I don't want him to
get off, so I hope they well, he is getting
off to something. Okay, you guys. This next story, honestly,
(11:55):
I find kind of funny. Two men are accused of
hacking a gas station and selling gas at a counted rate.
Police took two men into custody and Virginia Beach and
accused them of hacking gas pumps and at a discounted rate.
Like I said, officer later learned that devices were being
used to illegally access gas pumps. The gas was then
being sold at a lower rate through a phone app
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and was being advertised on social media. Again, people just
will want to get caught. Police have not confirmed the
exact amount of gas that was stolen. However, they've determined
that thousands of dollars of gas were taken from the
business over several days. Authorities say the incident is still
an active investigation. Police are advertising advertising. Can you imagine
if the police were like advertising, Hey, we're the police.
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Here's what we do. You know? Okay, police are advising
local gas stations that close overnights or of view security
footage should ensure they have not been victims as well. Okay,
before we get into this, I would say these guys
are modern day heroes there to me and the Robin
Robin Hoods, stealing from the rich and giving to the point,
I mean, the crime is that gas is so high.
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They are trying to help people. I don't I don't
think you should hack into other people's things, and but this,
I honestly I don't really have a problem with this
because gas prices, as we've learned, are I believe high
really for no reason, right, just gouging. So I'm sorry
if the person that owned the gas station didn't have
a say and how much it is. I don't know
how that all works, but I'm fascinated by the fact
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that they hacked into a gas station pumps, lowered the prices,
and gave people cheap gas. I mean, DM treat do
you understand I have been traveling so much just to
avoid paying gas. I would rather fly across the country
and take public transportation than pay for gas. In l A,
I was there for one week. I filled my tank
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up and it was a hundred dollars dollars and it
lasted me three days. And sadly, your your airline tickets
are probably cheaper than filling up your gas tank that much. Yes,
a thousand dollars in airline tickets is actually less than
a hundred dollars. That's how that's how transportation money works.
(14:05):
But I actually didn't even know it was possible to
hack gas bumps, and now that I do, I would
like for these guys to do a YouTube tutorial, even
if they were wearing masks or something or had those
little uh mosaics over their face so you don't know
who they are and just remained anonymous. Teach me how
to dog e, Teach me how to hack the gas pump.
(14:27):
I want to hack the gas pump. Take me to
jail because I'm doing something that's right for me. I
don't know that, FRITI sure, no, and said that before.
I also just feel like I'm actually surprised that I
haven't heard about this more often. Yeah, well, I didn't
know that you could do that. I didn't know that
gas tanks were hackable. I think they got to get
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these guys out of jail, and that this should be
part of a bigger movement. Two teach people how to
hack gas bumps. It's it's not often here at real
time crime that we side with the criminal. But I
think we're in agreement. Um. I hope nothing happens to
these guys. I hope they get a slap on the
wrist and and they go out. If they start doing
it to like banks and taking people's money, I have
(15:08):
a problem with it. But you're right, this is a
bit of a Robin Hood story. No, I feel like
I'm getting robbed every time I go to the gas station,
I'm like, you're literally stealing my money. They should not
cost a hundred dollars to fill up a Honda. And
and and from what I understand from watching all different
kinds of news, not just one shan't one network or
(15:29):
something like that, is that these prices are high and
they don't need to be this high. They don't need
to be this high. And um, agreed, is a lot
of it. And I think that, you know, everyone's just
trying to survive, and I get that. But also these
gas stations can market up the prices to whatever they want.
They still want to make a profit, so which is
understandable to business. But you know, some of them are
(15:52):
really greedy. I mean in West Hollywood I saw some
were like over seven dollars per gallant. That's insane. And
also I'm wondering, like are they going to be treated
as if it was an armed robbery? Like will they
be treated as if they were robbing a person versus
a property, you know, a business. I feel like they
deserve less punishment period. Yeah, I agree, like, fine, return
(16:18):
the money, but that's it, and then let them move
on with their lives so that they can do it
again but not get caught. The only person heard in
this is the actual individual owner of that gas station,
and I don't know, and that person has been ripping
people up for years. It's almost like a taste of
their own medicine. You know. I'm I'm I'm a I'm
team robber, Team criminal, We're team criminal. Speaking of team criminal.
(16:44):
Criminal fleas from police by hopping into a kayak which
then capsizes, which is honestly a shot him Fred. If
you ask me like instant karma, I love nothing more
than instant karma. Like when you say something bad about
someone that you step in dogshit, it's like, well the
ship came out of your mouth and now you got it.
So I just keep talking about amber her. But I
don't mean to, you know. Okay, So an alleged thief
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in Alabama tried to evade police by hopping into kayak
in a river, which capsized immediately after. So several people
called the police on Friday to report this man. He
was allegedly seen wandering through backyards and stealing a lawnmower
and leaf blower. People calmed down, you know, some residents
had confronted the man by early afternoon, prompting him to
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flee to the Coosa River. Officers arrived soon after and
tracked the suspect down the river. He didn't get far
before the kayak flipped and he started swimming to the bank,
where officers were waiting for him with a sad thing
to just like just just swim up to your doom.
You're wet, you're cold. And then the police are like
all right, and they just cut you. Good job, buddy,
(17:49):
you know, sorry you didn't make the Olympics. Um. So
apparently he was also tackled and arrested. I mean, if
I was just coming out of swimming in a river,
I would be too tired to do anything. You wouldn't
need to tackle me. I'd just be roll. I would
keel over dead. I'd like, just take me away, just
(18:09):
give can can I just get like a h a
blanket and a saying that the police acted incorrectly. I
don't care that they tackled him. I'm just thinking it
doesn't sound like this guy is really bright enough to
get away. They they were probably just having a little fun.
I would just really want a trauma blanket after that.
It's like, it's like, you guys didn't traumatize me. I
(18:29):
traumatized myself. But but so then so then he was
charged with burglary, theft of property, attempt to elude, and
resisting arrest. So I guess he was being combative when
they picked him up at the river, and apparently he
was stealing items to sell. This is what he said.
He was stealing items to sell so he could get
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his girlfriend's vehicle out of impound. Oh, he's a Robin hood.
He's of another we got another team criminal on our hands.
You know, now you're not I mean stealing a lawnmower
and like a leaf blower. That's really sad, that's desperate.
But also what was his Like did he hide the
kayak there? Like that was his getaway? Was he going
to take a lawnmower and a leaf blower in a
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kayak and go down the river to get away his
getaway kayak? I mean if the whole thing reeks of stupidity, yeah,
I mean. Also the other thing is if you're stealing
leaf blowers and lawnmowers, I'm like, are you just trying
to start a company in gardening and landscaping? Because you're
not going to make that much money. I mean, it's
(19:30):
it's interesting because if he was serious, that's a very
sweet gesture, very stupid, but sweet gesture to get his
girlfriend's car out of an impound And and now, because
we know he didn't have a getaway car because it
was impounded, he had to take a kayak. It was
the next best mode of transportation, although I think a
bicycle would have done him much better, and clearly didn't
practice how to operate, you know, how to use a
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kayak on a river. Also, you don't escape from the
police on a river. There's one way to go. They
go down further down the river and they wait for you, like,
where are you going? Yeah, either that or you go
off a waterfall and die. It's like, there's not much
at the end of a river, right, And and I
don't haven't really hung out there, but I can't imagine
rivers in Alabama are awesome to hang out. I'm sure
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there's more crime happening in the river than on the land.
The police actually had bigger fish to fry than catching
this guy. They're like, so those guys are dealing meth
out there, but we gotta got to this one guy
who stole a leaf blower. You know, it's really about
the principle of the matter. I mean. The other thing is, uh,
the story is interesting in the first place because the
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residents were confronting him before law enforcement came into play.
And I'm like, if someone was stealing something from my backyard,
would I go run after him and be like, hey,
come back here with my leaf blower? Would I assume
that this person was armed and dangerous? Or you know,
it's crazy because when people steal, right, this isn't him
breaking into a house with a gun and stealing a
(20:56):
diamond necklace. It's a little different. This is like, in
my opinion, desperate. And so something happened to me during
the pandemic where I got in my car and then
I noticed all these papers in the passenger seat and
I look over and I see that the glove compartment
is open. I was like, did I just leave a
(21:17):
mess in my car? That's so weird. I guess I
could have done that, like I'm pretty sloppy. And then
I look over at my steering wheel and someone had
broken into my car. I didn't realize, and they stole
the air bag off my steering wheel, which apparently is
such an expensive part that it almost totaled my car.
(21:37):
Isn't that crazy? That's how expensive it is. And you
had to be a pro. It's an expert move to
be able to remove just the air bag office steering wheel.
Apparently that it was like a huge crime that was
happening in l A during the pandemic because they could
sell apart for a lot of money on the black market,
and people were desperate for money. And I just thought,
I just I don't know. I just thought to the
(21:59):
probably sell them like Junkyards and stuff, and I just thought, like, wow,
you know what, this person really needed this more than
I do. I'm lucky that I'm insurance. It's annoying I
have to pay a five deductible, but I'm safe. I
wasn't confronted by the robber. I do feel violated, like
your car is like a house on wheels, you know
what I mean like that, So to think that someone
was sitting in my seat in my car, you know,
(22:22):
it doesn't feel good. Um, but I was not harmed,
and I just think, you know, this person really needed
it for whatever they needed. They needed it more than
I did. I'll be okay. I was frustrated. I was annoying.
I felt violated. It still sucks, but it's definitely a
different crime than someone entering your house and threatening to
(22:44):
harm you, or entering your house and stealing stuff. To
your original point, if someone broke into my house and
I like walked in the room and saw them, I
would most likely I would think they would be a
little more brazen and I think maybe more dangerous, So
I'd probably back out and you know, try and hopefully
they didn't see me. So I would not confront because
(23:04):
if they saw you, they'd be like, oh my god,
you guys, it's Dmitri from Real Time Crime. We gotta
we gotta get out of this house. You know he
knows all about Yeah, they'd be just the super fans.
They'd be like, I'm so sorry, we actually came to
see yourself, but can we just get your autographs? Oh
my god, are you gonna rip us on the podcast?
This is awesome? Can we actually is this? I know
(23:25):
this is weird, but like, can we come on the podcast?
We don't leah right now? Where is she? Um? No?
But if so, if someone was in the house, I
would consider them more dangerous and I would probably not
confront them. If I was there and I saw someone
in my backyard, I would yell like hey, and then
depending on their reaction, if they ran, then I would
feel more comfortable kind of going out after them. If
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they just stood there, if they started walking to the house,
then I would alter my plans. I know this sounds crazy,
but these sorts of situations are the type of situations
that make me wish I was really good with a
bone arrow, you know, like I just had expert aim
where I could be like, I just want to graze
their leg in a way that they're like, oh, no,
I should drop this because this person is in dangerous
(24:09):
but they're crazy. Yeah, how nice would it be to
tell the cops listen, look for the guy that has
an arrow sticking out of his calf. That's my guy. Yeah.
I don't want it to be a life threatening injury,
just something that slows him down or makes them think
twice about stealing my property or hurting me or anyone
I know, and move on with my life. You know,
it's a real Robin Hen move for sure. I mean
(24:31):
it's a bow and arrow. Yeah, I I go with
crossbow or bow and arrow overgun any day. I mean
it's got to feel good to see someone stealing your stuff,
violating your property and just shoot an arrow across the
yard into their ass. It's such a funny way to
attack someone. I'm gonna get a bow and arrow. Yeah,
I think it's like very sixteen hundreds renaissance of us. Yeah.
(24:57):
I would just be like, this person is mentally ill,
and like you're stealing from me? Bro right, can you
image to the trial? They're like, uh, and then he
chased me with a bow and arrow. What Yeah, well
I was just doing target practice, barrow. Thank you so
much for your help. All right, anyway, Um, and I
(25:18):
don't buy this. Sorry. One of the last thing I
don't buy that it is there's no sympathy here. And
he his girlfriend's car was impounded, so he was trying
to figure that out on your own. That's not someone
else's problem. That's not like, let me go steal from
someone else because my girlfriend didn't pay her her mobile
violations or whatever the hell it is. Look, I'm gonna
be honest with you. I'm on team criminal here. If
(25:39):
if he was being honest and it was a sweet gesture,
is a stupid act and he's not stealing anything irreplaceable
or super expensive. He just sounds like very sad time
in his life. We would just like to announce right
now in the podcast that this is all a result
of Lea being in love and still on that romantic
honeymoon stage. She loves the idea of of a re
(26:00):
and being romanced, and the fact that her new boyfriend
may go steal leafblowers to get her car out of impound. You, guys,
chivalry is not dead. It's not, but this isn't it anyway.
Take a break. We're gonna take a break. Yeah, we're
gonna take a break. You guys, will be right back.
Don't touch that dial. I love saying that. I don't
know why, it doesn't make any sense. I just like
(26:21):
to be like a weird nineteen eighties radio host. Hey,
leave us a voicemail, let us know thumbs up or
thumbs down on the or comment on the social things
thumbs up or thumbs down on the don't touch the dial.
I like it. I love that. Don't touch that dial.
We'll be right back. Stay safe, don't commit any grimes. Hey,
(26:49):
it's us Leon Dmitri with Real Time Crime. Welcome back,
Welcome back again, Welcome again. Back, welcome back, not touching
the dial again, welcome back. Thanks for not touching the dial,
you guys. I'm sorry. I'm sorry that I've changed. Okay,
I'm happy. I don't know what else to say. This
is ah, it's not working good for my comedy either.
(27:11):
I go on stage and I'm like, hey, you love birds.
Everyone's everyone doing. They're like, I'm like, I don't know,
just happy to be here. They're like boo, all right,
So yeah, people only love you when you're miserable on
stage because misery loves company. So I'm gonna find fighting
with him. Yeah, you can find misery and happiness and
still be happy. Don't worry, it's there. Oh okay, so
I just have to wait a couple of years into
the relationship. No, this is just this is a whole
(27:33):
new thing. Like you have all these things that you've
that you've done your comedy about. Now it's like you
just got a brand new slate and it's like, oh,
I can I can tap into all this stuff new material.
I just started doing jokes about him, Yeah, and I
lose the audience pretty quickly. They're like, man, do you
know when I posted him on my Instagram story publicly,
(27:54):
I lost two thousand followers in less in twenty four hours.
When I posted you and him, I gained two thousands.
I actually screenshot every DM that was like I'm leaving.
I'm like, what did you think was going to happen?
I've never even I don't know who you are, and
I don't mean that in a mean way. I've just
never met you. Like, what did you did you think
(28:14):
we were gonna get married? I don't understand, right, But also, okay, go,
so wait, so you're leaving? I post meaning you you
post comedy and you post podcasts and stuff like that,
and they're gonna leave because you're in a relationship, Like,
I don't know what your incent was. It really doesn't
make sense. And we don't try to make sense of
things that are nonsensical, because that's the whole point of nonsense,
(28:37):
to not make sense. Speaking of not making sense, thank you,
let's just hop right into our main story. Guys. This
is about the doc that's streaming on Netflix right now.
It's called Keep Sweet, Prey, and Obey. It's a true
crime series that delves into the cultural practices and abuses
committed by an extremist offshoot of the Mormon Church known
(28:57):
as the Fundamist Church of Jesus Rice of Latter day Saints.
The doc tells the horrifying true story of the leader
and known polygamist, Warren Jeff's. Director Rachel Dretson says she
made this to give victims a chance to tell their stories.
For the first time. In this doc, we learned how
some women were able to escape, Thank God. It features
(29:21):
disturbing interviews with ex communicates of the f LDS Church,
some of whom had intimate relationships with Jeff's. Warren Jeff's. Also,
I hate that his last name is Jeff's plural. I mean,
I hate everything about him, but yeah, but Jeff's. It's like, okay,
Warren Jeff's was made a prophet in two thousand two.
First of all, I'm sorry, but like, if you're going
(29:43):
to be a prophet after y two k you're not
a real prophet. The real profits were before two thousand
and everyone knows that, Okay, I'm sorry. Just like a
modern day problems, I'm we're all modern day prophets. Have
you gone on? TikTok? It's like everyone's got an opinion,
all right by the time of his arrest, Jeff's had
married seventy eight women, some of whom he inherited from
(30:06):
his father. That's so odd to just treat women like
objects that that just goes in a contract. Were like,
all right, so when I die, you get to have
sex with her. It's like, huh is this passed down?
I mean, that's so disturbing. I can't even the word
inherited is in regards to women is unfathomable to me. Okay,
(30:27):
take take your pick. Like seventy eight wives, that's discussing
in a problem, inherited from his father. That's discussing a problem.
And then it says twenty four of them were underage one, twelve, Yeah,
I mean, yeah, alright. So Warren Jeff's rose to power
and succeeded his father Rulan, and how his authority and
(30:49):
rule created an extremely repressive system in which corruption and abuse,
including the sexual abuse of miners, escalated. He also married
off countless underage girls to other adult men were his. Yeah,
I wonder how he treated his own daughters. Jeff's is
currently serving a life sentence for his crimes. Despite his conviction,
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he's still considered a prophet and president of the f
l d s and his thousands of followers. If we're honest,
thousands is not that large. I mean, I doubt he's
even verified on Instagram. The crazy thing is that Warren
Jeff no, just get the joking. You have a family,
you can't Okay, send it to me. I don't have
(31:34):
a family yet. Um. The crazy thing is that Warren
Jeff's documented everything, so all that archival footage actually helped
seal his fate in court. This is the same as
every story so far. You're advertising fake at of cheap gas,
You're recording yourself on camera as a pedophile. It's like,
why are everyone just wants to get caught? It's so odd,
(31:54):
Like why do you keep these people? It's like they're well,
they're not pro criminals, that's clear. Because of are pro criminals.
They would trace their steps. Haven't they watched any movies? See?
I think this is different. I think this guy is
a pro criminal because of the years that he's been
doing this and the ship that he's done. I think
he got to that point like a lot of people
do when they hide behind religion and they act like
I'm doing this for God, so I'm untouchable. I think
(32:16):
he felt like he was untouchable, but he documented everything,
so it's like, you're an idiot, so he's But can
he be a pro criminal and an idiot? Like in
my opinion, pro criminals are people who don't get caught. Yeah,
we're I'm in our minds. It's the hollywoods even these
are not the oceans eleven people to the idiots, right, Okay,
(32:38):
So just just for reference, everyone knows polygamy is illegal
in the US, to be clear, Although although I know
this sounds possibly scandalous, I feel like in the next
ten years, polygamy will not be illegal because of the
way that people are starting to intermingle and the way
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that society is is changing toward just gender relations, sex relations. Um.
It feels like there I know personally a lot of
people who do not identify as monogamous, and they have
a lot of power and are famous and their celebrities,
people you would know. I just feel like polygamy is
(33:24):
one of those things that maybe three thousand years ago
was seen as a crime, just like how marijuana was
illegal but is now being decriminalized or becoming legal in places.
I feel like polygamy will be legal at some point
in the US. It might take a while, but I
think it will be legal at some point. Yeah. Um. Well,
Also there's a there's an overall kind of feeling at
(33:46):
least that I feel that as a as a country,
we're kind of the escalator reversed course and now we're
moving backwards. The things that we've gone forward on I
think are now going backwards. And I think so I
thought that's where you're going at first, not that would
become more acceptable, but that's not how things are, just
reverting back to things that we had thought. We had
all agreed. This isn't great. Oh you're like, so monogamy
(34:10):
is is now illegal as well? No one is allowed
to have sex? Um Yeah, no, no, I mean that
I get as well. I mean, especially with Roe v.
Wade and everything that's going on with abortion, and I mean,
I don't know, it's like one step forward, two steps back. Yeah,
but we still we still keep taking that one step forward.
I don't know anyway. That has nothing to do with
(34:31):
what we're talking about right now. After Okay, so after
years of committing these crimes, the victims that came forward
and made it possible to arrest and convict Warren Jeff's
for rape. Warren was convicted of two counts of child
sexual assault in two thousand eleven. I'm actually surprised is
only two and at that time Jeff was already behind
bars for being an accomplice to rape, a crime. He
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was convicted up in two thousand and seven after spending
a year on the FBI's most wanted list. He's serving
time at louis See Powlidge Unit, a prison in Palestine, Texas.
That's interesting. He was given a life sentence plus twenty
years back in that. Did they just do that to
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be like, hey, we really don't with you. I always
wondered that there's some there's some little legal tinge to it,
but I don't know what it is, but it does
sound like just in case you die and come back.
Maybe that's what I was just thinking, Like if you
have a heart attack, you're technically dead, but then come
back and some lawyer is like, there's a loophole. He
he did die? Um, wow, man, there's a loophole for everything. Huh.
(35:33):
Did we just stumble across something and solve it ourselves?
We did? We did. And I just want to say
to all the lawyers out there getting people off after
a life sentence and for having them fake heart attacks
and and dropping dead. You're smart. Wow, you really you
found a good one. But I'm glad he now has
that plus twenty years and he won't be eligible for
(35:53):
parole until July. I mean, that's not that far away.
It's sixteen years. It's actually not timesline. But apparently he
tried to hang himself when he went in in two
thousand seven. I mean, well, he was trying to pull
on Epstein quote unquote, but I don't think Epstein killed himself.
(36:15):
Warren Jeff's is allowed visits from family in prison and
still runs the sect. So crazy, And in two thousand
and six, the Mormon Church sent out a statement saying
it was misleading and inaccurate to call him a Mormon.
So the Mormon Church kind of denounces this guy, and
yet he's still running the Latter day Saints. It doesn't
(36:36):
really make any sense. But the Church of Jesus Christ
of Latter day Saints discontinued the practice of polygamy in
eighteen nineteen a manifesto, and then in four a second
manifesto was established for excommunication as a punishment for those
who refused to stop the practice of polygamy. All right,
(36:57):
so look, a lot of this is kind of odd.
I will just say when I was in Phoenix, Arizona,
I was doing a show and the first half hour
of the show was like the best thirty minutes of
my life of comedy. And what I didn't know behind
the scenes was that there had only been like thirty
(37:17):
tickets sold prior to the show, and then once the
doors opened, the show had been sold out. So they
only prepared staff for thirty people. So there was two
servers and one bouncer, and when you have a room
of two people, you need more than that. So halfway
through my set, this is after the host has gone up,
(37:39):
this is after the opener has gone up, this is
after the guest spot has gone up. So this is
already like almost an hour into the show. People hadn't
gone their drinks, people hadn't gotten their food, the heat,
the a C. Wasn't working, so people start yelling in
the back, where's my food, where's my drink? I'm hungry,
And there's only one bouncer, so he can't kick all
these people. You know, It's like it just starts getting
(38:01):
real tense. And then a table to my left is
a whole table of Mormons, and this guy won't stop
asking me during my set to him and his wives.
He's like, Hi, this is my wife Sarah, and this
is my wife Rachel, and this is my wife Lisa,
and we'd love to get a drink with you after
this and see where things go. And just and I
(38:21):
was like, hey, I'm at work right now. It went
downhill so fast I sweat all the way through my shirt.
Security didn't kick them out and they never stopped talking
at me during my own show. And then after the show,
were we making you uncomfortable? I was like, no, not
past tense. Still, I'm at work and you were talking
(38:43):
to me. I don't even talking, just like I mean talking,
but propositioning me into a forsome It was very odd,
very super disturbing. And it's like, yeah, like obviously I don't.
I'm not a fan of people interrupting comedy. It's to
begin with, right, but not even on track like this
(39:03):
is he's acting as if he just bumped into you
with a diner anyway, So I so I had sex
with them? Yeah, they're coming on next week. They're coming
on me next week, and sorry, Dmitri, Dmitri, what do
(39:24):
you expect? Oh please, just because I made a face
doesn't mean I didn't appreciate the joke. Okay. So it's
funny because I don't even remember hearing about the story
in the news. Yeah, no, I do. I remember hearing
about this in the news, and I remember, um, I
remember thinking how twisted it was. And I watched the
trailer for this Netflix documentary and it's like, I don't
(39:47):
know that I can pretty much sit through anything. I
don't think I want to see this because I have
three daughters and I don't like it's so disturbing these
older guys that were being like given underage brides and
the whole thing, so get ready to bleeping so twisted
that it's like, I don't I just want to say,
if you know, if Dmitri curses, you know he's feeling
(40:09):
sick about something, and stop hiding behind the church. Everybody, listen.
You want to be an ass, you want to be disgusting,
be it, but stop being like, oh, I'm I'm a prophet,
and this is Jesus telling me honestly, really, you're telling
me that Jesus is like, hey, Mary, underaged girls and
give me to your friends to tell everybody what they
can do with themselves. I mean, so, I don't remember
(40:31):
this all unfolding, but but it's interesting because I think
it does cast a really negative not negative, but it
cast a shadow on the Mormon Church that polygamy is
continuing on a polygamy is legal in Utah or is
it just in Silver Lake not Silver Lake, Salt Lake?
(40:52):
So like, um, I don't know. I feel like it's legal,
but I feel like there's some stipulations to it. But
but but it's like it just happened to me in
two where a man, a Mormon guy, had two or
three wives. Yeah, it was in September. I can't remember,
(41:13):
and I'm not I'm not trying to be funny. I
can't remember if it was his three wives or two
wives and one of the women's girlfriends. M I I
literally do not remember, or if it was his girlfriend
but not wife yet. But there are three women and
it was him, and it was all a hold to do. Honestly, Um,
talking about being in a touch with reality. Let's just
go to a comedy show and we'll interrupt the act
(41:33):
will act like the accent even going on, and we're
just gonna see if this girl wants to join us
over and over. I mean, you know that's one way
of doing dating in real life. Yeah, or you could
do it the way I did it. Ha ha. Just
fly across the world to find a man you're in
love with. Okay, So thank you. So yeah, stop hiding
(41:54):
under religion to having as an excuse to um, you know,
be with underage girls. And I don't know, I think
do you think polygamy is different than polyamory, because polyamory
is is rampant in Hollywood. Polygamy maybe not so much.
(42:17):
I know a lot of girls who are quote unquote
cool with it. You know. Oh, you know he's dating
me and like he like really he focuses on me
when we're together, and he says I love you, and
he does, but he just like loves a lot of people.
And I'm okay with it. And then like two weeks later,
like ah right, And and you also get into that
that weird area where sometimes like the two people are married,
(42:38):
but then they have another person they consider their spouse.
So you get to a point you're like, well, where's
what's the difference between just the like the legal paperwork
of of intermarrying like a bunch of people. I don't know.
I'm not a super fan of all that, but I mean,
obviously the whole assigning underage girls too older met all
that ship is a whole different topic. Way no place
(43:00):
in any of this. This just in, by the way.
But first of all, before I go into this just
and I just want to say, in my opinion, if
all parties are knowledge and knowledgeable about all the other partners,
and everyone is consenting to the situation of their own volition,
who am I to judge? Who am I to say no? Like,
(43:22):
I think the slogan love is love applies to a
lot of different situations. However, not when it's underage. But
if you're if you're marrying two women who are of age,
and you know they are consenting to being together and
they know the situation, and it's like, who am I
(43:44):
to say you can't all get married? Right? I'm not, Like,
I'm not a fan of of laws that tell people
like what they can do with Like, I agree with
what you're saying there. There are the legal laws and
that the age and all that kind of stuff. Or
or forcing someone to do something completely out the window.
I don't know. I don't know. You make a good
point there, It's it's it's hard because I do think
it is judgmental to say that marriage should only be
(44:07):
between two people, especially if all parties are consenting and aware.
You know. It's like, I really do think it's it's like, what,
how is it my business? Right? Well, times have changed
so much, like it used to be like you get married,
you have kids. If it's not even like marriage isn't
even as big a thing anymore. It's not even like
something that people said I think want to do or
(44:29):
have to do or any of that. So, well, that's
the other thing. It's like you're doubling down on a commitment.
I mean, it's like two women who are unsatisfied instead
of one. But I think, you know, no, I just
I find it interesting because it's like, well, under that pretense,
should having children out of wedlock be illegal? You know,
it's like, who why is this so controversial? Right? But okay, alright,
(44:52):
so we've gotten off topic of what this guy did,
for sure. Yeah. But also but but we do need
to talk about what polygamy is and what polyamory is right.
Polyamory is just the capacity to or yeah, capacity to
love multiple people or be in love, and multiple people
in polygamy is marrying multiple people. Right. So polygamy is
illegal and criminalized in every country in North and South America,
(45:13):
including all fifty U. S States. But in February, the
Utah House and Senate reduced the punishment for consensual polygamy,
which had previously been classified as a felony, to roughly
the equivalent of a traffic ticket. So I was right,
it is Utah and and I guess it's decriminalized quote unquote.
See this is what I'm saying. I think it's gonna
(45:34):
be like weed, where it's decriminalized, and then it will
be made legal in some places, and slowly over time,
I think it will be made decriminalized or legal in
some places. And Indian, Malaysian, Philippines, and Singapore. The government's
recognize polygamist marriages, but only from Muslims. I think it's
interesting that they it's religion specific. Yeah. Well, I um,
(45:57):
I have trouble with the reasoning behind it. So, like
you said, if there's people and they want to all
be married together, and I don't know who am I
to say, don't, but I feel like most of these
situations are where it's a control over the woman or
it's you know, and so that is where this goes
completely awry in my opinion. So all of us being said,
(46:19):
I guess you know, watch the documentary if you have
the stomach for it. Don't eat a full meal beforehand,
because you will be sick watching it. This guy, I'm
glad that he has a life sentence plus twenty years because,
as we said, we know now, we figured it. We
got to the bottom of that real quick. People trying
to fake their deaths, but I died, shut the up. Yeah,
And I think the I think the multiple life sentences
(46:41):
is because they have to assign one for each crime
if they're multiple crimes. I think that's where that comes in.
But I think we may have stumbled onto that. I
think plus twenty years is covering any legal bullshit. Yeah,
I hate, like f the loopholes, you know what I mean.
People get off on technicalities all the time, And if
you're a lawyer trying to get some piece of crap
like this out of jail, you probably have the biggest
(47:02):
house in l A. Yeah, right, the richest person in
the world. Yeah, you guys, um and that's our episode
for today. I really think we've covered the gamut of
subjects really petty crime, uh, team criminal, the polygamy. We've
just been all over the place. And as always, leave
(47:23):
us a voicemail. Call in. We love to hear your voice.
And if it's confessing to a crime, just please don't
let it be a really serious one. I'm not ready
for that. Emotionally, I can't add more to my mental illness, Like,
are not enough antidepressants and doctors in the world to
handle what I already have. Alright, so leave us a
(47:46):
voicemail and and support my new favorite rom com which
is which is Leah's new relationship. I'm feel free to
you know, people unfollowed her for this crap. Honest, I say,
call in and voice your support. I'll pick out. I'll
pick got my favorite. We'll er it. There we go.
It's eight six eight six six tann one eight six
(48:07):
six one crime. He hasn't left the bedroom yet, so
that means that he doesn't absolutely hate the song. It's
eight six six two on two seven six three. Guys
follow us on Instagram at real time Crime Pod. I'm
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in New York this week. If you're here and Dmitri
where we find you on the internet as always. And
(48:31):
if you're breaking into Dmitri's house and you want an autograph,
He's ready. That's right, I got I carry a pen
with me, so it just brings something for me to
sign at all times. Alright, guys, we love you, Stay safe,
have a good night. For Oh my god, I'll never
turn mine off. I'm like, people watch me. I need
more attention. Can't you call this guy so he can
put a camera in my bathroom? You want to see it,
(48:53):
you want to see a show, Just wait till I
have Mexican food and then come back over. Anyway, I'm
pretending like my camera froze. I don't have to react
to that. Oh I'm just fist pumped the air. So
you know this means we're probably gonna get married. Guys,
love you, good night. It's real time crop. It's real
(49:17):
time Grady. I mean, is it actually real time crime?
I'm solving anything? Or is that just the thing we
say it's a thing we say, got it. Okay, see
you next week for more real time crime, only on
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