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October 29, 2025 45 mins

Ding, dong! The Belles are ringing! Carlos, Dustin, and Claudia break down the ultimate Belle Collective recap. Amanda’s revelation didn’t just rock the cast - it shook these three too! Plus, Glen Pearson joins to confirm he’s healthy… and spills a little extra tea while he’s at it!

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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Reality with the King is hosted by me, Carlos King.
I'm an executive producer who have produced some of your
favorite shows from the Real Housewives in Atlanta, New Jersey
and my own creation, The Love and Marriage Franchise and
Bell Collective. Every episode we recap reality television from the
Real Housewives Franchise to The Bachelor or Selling Sunset, in

(00:27):
addition to celebrity guests, whether in the unscripted space or
scripted as well. Let's get in to Bell Collective really
fast before I bring on the guests of the night.
Mister Glendale Peer said, look Bell Collective episode four. What

(00:49):
we saw in this episode is Amanda confronting Glenn on
being in her dms, the conversations.

Speaker 2 (00:59):
About whether or not they dance or am I line
you know, all of that occurred dusted the Bell Collective historian.

Speaker 3 (01:11):
What are your thoughts on.

Speaker 1 (01:12):
These allegations against g Lindell from Amanda and whether or
not you you you agree with Letitia that she was
set up by her friend Latrese.

Speaker 4 (01:24):
So I thought that they were once we found out.

Speaker 5 (01:27):
Let's take it back to last week going into this episode,
which I loved. The episode title this week by the way,
but going on to Paradise are troubling.

Speaker 4 (01:38):
Uh what was it troubling.

Speaker 5 (01:39):
Paradise or something? I can't remember someone trouble in Paradise.
But it's a hard one for me this week, y'ad.
It's hard because it's no secret that I love watching
LaTrece Rogers or Bell Collective have loved her in season one,

(02:01):
episode one of this series, and I feel like my
girl kind of got caught in the bullseye of the
mess this week with these allegations from her longtime friend Amanda.
I also think that once the allegations were revealed right
exactly what they were accusing Glenn of, it was kind

(02:21):
of you know, okay, now what it was a bunch
of old shit based on the energy that we had
gotten from Amanda the.

Speaker 4 (02:28):
Past two weeks, which that's who we need to talk to.

Speaker 5 (02:30):
We need to have Amanda come say her side on
here on one of these Mondays.

Speaker 4 (02:33):
We should talk to Amanda.

Speaker 5 (02:35):
But after she said show the messages to Latitia, it
was some old shit.

Speaker 4 (02:41):
Per what Latitia said.

Speaker 5 (02:42):
Now, I don't know if I don't assume Latitia wouldn't
be honest about that. I assume she's telling the truth
that she was privy to these messages before and it's
some old shit, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (02:53):
So now what I'm like, what was your intention?

Speaker 5 (02:55):
And if this is a bunch of old shit that
everybody already knew about, if all your y'all did was dance,
you know what I'm saying down the taste, which to me,
that sounds like they were flirting, dancing, flirting with each other.
It tastes you know what I'm saying, exchanged some flirty
dms and shit, that was it.

Speaker 4 (03:13):
But if that's the case, Glenn though he ain't have
no business doing that. It's that simple.

Speaker 5 (03:19):
And not only did it, Not only does Glenn know
he didn't have no business doing that, a man that
does too. And I do think that LaTrece put herself
in a bad position by not reaching out to Latitia
first and allowing the information to be to come to
the forefront the way that it did. I think that
that made Latrice look bad. And it also took any

(03:42):
progress that her and Latitia had made as far as
like strengthening their relationship or building an actual bond with
each other, it took that backwards at least ten steps,
ten paces easily, So I don't know. It'll be interesting
to see how this goes down.

Speaker 4 (03:57):
But I did not like.

Speaker 5 (03:58):
The way that T shirt is presented with this information
that obviously was gonna make her sad.

Speaker 4 (04:04):
I didn't think that was fair.

Speaker 6 (04:06):
As a friend LaTrece being in the middle.

Speaker 7 (04:10):
If I knew it was some old stuff, as soon
as the question got brought up, I probably would have
had to shut it down, like whoa, whoa, whoa, because
you know everything, like you're in the middle, like you
know your friend, you know what a man it did.
You know you're trying to make things right with Letitia,
Like I would have been like, oh that, no, ask
a different question, like interfere and shut it down, especially
if you know, now if some new stuff and you're

(04:31):
trying to be messy and bring it to the forefront,
that's something else. But I'm blast on camera in front
of everybody like that. You know, sometimes you got to
stop some things that are like progressing right in front
of your eyes, because you know you already know, like
you can't just sit there like with chest with a
smile on your face or a grand chilling when you know,
especially if you know it's old stuff. That's already been resolved.

(04:52):
That's now that we know that. To me, that made
it worse.

Speaker 5 (04:58):
And like kinda outside y'all out there screaming and hollering
like the old girl Chicina.

Speaker 4 (05:06):
That was we need to talk to her.

Speaker 3 (05:10):
Well, I do want to ask all this.

Speaker 1 (05:12):
So what we also saw in the episode is Glenn
and Letitia have the conversation. You know, this was after
Marie and Carrie went to console Letitia, and you know,
Leticia felt like everybody embarrassed her, her husband embarrassed her,

(05:32):
and she felt that LaTrece embarrassed her for having knowledge
of what was going on and not telling her beforehand.

Speaker 3 (05:39):
With that being said, Glenn and Letitia did speak.

Speaker 1 (05:43):
Latitia did say, like at the top of the season,
I did my dirt, Glenn did his dirt, and we
have focused on recommitting to each other, he said, we
danced like you two intimated as well. The just were
two years prior to filming of the show. It appears

(06:06):
that Letitia is really trying to figure out what to
do next. Claudia, you, being a woman, what do you
think Laticia should do with this information?

Speaker 3 (06:22):
She told us a few weeks ago. Glenn is healthy.

Speaker 1 (06:24):
When we asked about the sap of the marriage, we
get to ask what that means when when he hops in,
But what do you think Latitia should do? Should she,
you know, figured this out with Glenn? Is this something
that Okay, it happened two years ago. Does that make
a difference in terms of your man and you recommitting

(06:45):
this year? If something happened two years ago and y'all
recommitted this year, should she forgive him and move on?

Speaker 7 (06:52):
Well, if you are committed to recommitting your relationship and
you said, hey, everything that happened before today, you know,
we leave that in the past.

Speaker 6 (07:00):
We're moving on. That's one thing.

Speaker 7 (07:02):
But it does suck because you look, you feel like
a fool that you said this, You make this declaration
like okay, anything before this date, I'm cool, and you
think you know it all and then more stuff comes out.

Speaker 6 (07:13):
Or it's also harder to heal when you're on a
reality show.

Speaker 7 (07:16):
You know, if this was done in the quiet of
their own homes where we weren't we went on podcasts
commenting on it, it's it's easy to heal, but the
fact that you know, whatever progress, they make a whole
bunch of talking heads are gonna be doing review on this.
That's why, like I told Mike Hill in that conversation,
when you are in a relationship on a reality TV show,

(07:38):
it's you have to be even tighter than you would
be in a regular relationship because things that really you
could get away with them, we're like, oh, we just danced,
or I just said what's up?

Speaker 6 (07:48):
Or you know, I hugged her as a front. Whatever,
it's gonna.

Speaker 7 (07:50):
Be magnified through the eyes of all the viewers, and
then it's embarrassing your spouse, you know, if she if
she can live with this. You know, sometimes reality helps
you because you have more eyeballs watching your person, but
you also got to be able to know that, you know,
that's one week because when you're like you do, you

(08:11):
also get clocked a lot more. You may think you
could just go meet someone.

Speaker 6 (08:15):
Down at you know, at Arby's.

Speaker 7 (08:18):
I don't know why you be there, but whatever the
restaurant you want to go to, I don't know, and
just go have a drink with someone, there's going to
be someone there, even a waiter, a patron that could
see when sneak a picture. So it does force you
to kind of like tighten up, so just I don't know,
because it's also humiliating.

Speaker 6 (08:35):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 7 (08:35):
And they already had a history of this, so it's like,
I feel like being cheated on or played with on
camera when you're on show together is even worse than.

Speaker 8 (08:46):
If you want to It's worse.

Speaker 7 (08:48):
You know, you're putting that person, You're letting millions of
people comment on your life and embarrass and clown your wife.

Speaker 6 (08:56):
But I'm not married.

Speaker 5 (08:57):
I agree, And that's why I think the floor was
open for some of the commentary that we saw in
Amanda Salon a couple of weeks ago, and she made
the comment that she made regarding Glenn and his wife
in comparison to her, I think that you open the
door for that kind of disrespect, that kind of you know,
disparaging conversation when your actions allow for it. So I

(09:22):
felt bad for Latitia Man. That's how I felt.

Speaker 4 (09:24):
I ain't really no other way for me to say it.

Speaker 5 (09:26):
I felt bad for Laticia in this episode because I
felt like her feelings were crushed and I didn't like
seeing that.

Speaker 4 (09:32):
You know what I'm saying. I didn't.

Speaker 7 (09:34):
So it was sad when they were like when she
was talking to Glenn and they were like she was.
She was saying, like people let her down and she
just doesn't really know like who to trust, and he's
hugging her, and really he's part of the issue. And
I don't know if he got that it wasn't just
everyone else she was talking about. She was talking about
everybody and you. It's all of you, and it sucks

(09:58):
to feel that way about damn, like I want my
people to fight for me, I want my people to
protect me, and I'm not feeling it, you know. And
then where she just kind of melting his arms like
she's she's worn out from other people, like other people
as well, not just our man. That's a shitty feeling
to feel like, is there anyone that is gonna protect
my heart?

Speaker 5 (10:18):
Then I'm pissed because we finally fucking get Marie and
the Trees to be cool, finally get to see them laughing,
having fun, being homegirls, and now this shit goes down,
which you know Marie is gonna have an opinion on,
and that she's already said in the episode, see I
told you that girl was not your friend, and now

(10:38):
here we go it is literally uprooting all the work
that I felt like we had done foolish me, you
know what I'm saying, to think that we were in
the clear. I was just so blisterfully ignorant watching episodes one,
two through all.

Speaker 4 (10:52):
You know, I was just so ignorant. And here we
are again.

Speaker 1 (10:56):
So do y'all think before I bring Lynna, do y'all
think LaTrece broke the girl code by not telling Letitia
the moment Amanda gave her this news.

Speaker 4 (11:14):
Girl code. That's what you question, Claudia my love.

Speaker 6 (11:18):
Yeah, especially you want to show with someone.

Speaker 7 (11:21):
I understand it is really hard when you like are
friends with the other woman.

Speaker 6 (11:26):
You know what I mean, It is super hard.

Speaker 7 (11:28):
But there's a way to do things, like to kind
of give a hint at least or heads up so
your other friend that you're trying to mend a relationship
with or get cool, you know, trying to nurture that
as well, doesn't feel blindsided because you're gonna look guilty.

Speaker 6 (11:40):
Okay, So maybe it's like, hey, just so you.

Speaker 7 (11:43):
Know, uh, yeah, I've been hearing stuff, you know, just
something to say something like nobody the worst part of
being cheated on or stuff happened behind your back. I'm
not saying he cheated, but the worst thing is the
blind side and it's the blind side thing and other
people knowing in you, like you feel like such a fool.

Speaker 6 (12:06):
You know, like I'm like, tell me everything.

Speaker 7 (12:08):
If you just see someone just talking, my man talking
to someone, tell me, let me.

Speaker 6 (12:11):
Let me do what I want with that information. You
know what I mean, let me. But don't like know
stuff and not say anything. And I know men.

Speaker 7 (12:19):
Hate that, but it's a shitty feeling, y'all know w
y'all hear you you got cheated on or your your
your personal love is kind of doing something maybe a
little inappropriate. That's feeling you get in your stomach, like
it feel like your heart is in your stomach.

Speaker 6 (12:31):
That is a horrible feeling.

Speaker 7 (12:33):
So, I mean, yeah, it's tough when you're friends with
both people and you're closer to one. But I don't know,
I'd rather be able to have a clean conscience and
like it ain't on me, you know what I mean.
Don't cheat around me or don't be a side check
around me.

Speaker 6 (12:47):
I'm telling, well, you.

Speaker 4 (12:50):
Know what the thing is.

Speaker 1 (12:53):
You know what latica not laticia, what a treat is
saying is that, Look my girl with Amanda. I've known
a Manda since you know, the school days, and she
pretty much said that, look, Latitia knows her man and
she's gonna stay with him anyway. That's pretty much what
she was, you know, saying like she's gonna stay with them.

(13:15):
So me telling her beforehand is not going to do
much because she feels like she's gonna stay with him anyway.

Speaker 5 (13:26):
That's lazy, wrong answer too, because it makes us feel
exactly how we don't want to feel in this. What
could have been said was, you know what, I've been
really working on my relationship with Letitia. Me and Amanda
have been friends for many, many years. I'm a woman,
I'm a wife. I know how it feels. I don't
want to embarrass her. I'm gonna say something to her

(13:47):
just to let her know and give her the opportunity
to figure it out. Don't start making some excuses and shit, man,
that that's what we don't want to see. So because
it makes you question people's real intentions, you know.

Speaker 7 (13:58):
So you know when they be like, well, you know,
they try to like justify well, you know, she's gonna
not leave anyways, or he's for the streets or that's
not for you to decide. You that's not your place.
It's not it's not. Yeah, it's so unimportant. See I'm
telling y'all being single and not like making any I

(14:20):
don't love none of these hoes right now, right you
see my eyes got a sparkle in it every single
But you ain't see me in two and a half years.
Come on this TV on this camera looking sad or distraw,
like someone disappointed. Nobody has disappointed me, like no one
has brought me back to being a teenager when my
daddy said he was gonna pick me up on Sunday
at three, And you don't.

Speaker 6 (14:41):
Show up when you get that look like I haven't
had that.

Speaker 3 (14:46):
Nobody has.

Speaker 7 (14:47):
I have not allowed anyone to disappoint me in a
couple of years. It is so liberating ladies on this
side and gentlemen, But you know on the flip side,
no one's made me up here either.

Speaker 6 (14:57):
I'm just I'm chilling. I'm like being neutral. Listen.

Speaker 7 (15:02):
Yes, I haven't had an orgasm well and.

Speaker 6 (15:07):
In a while consistently, but like you know, I'm good.

Speaker 3 (15:10):
You have a Two weeks ago, Claudia, I stopped playing.

Speaker 6 (15:13):
Why are you telling my business.

Speaker 7 (15:14):
Oh sorry, I.

Speaker 8 (15:15):
Thought you told the Laurel that already.

Speaker 7 (15:17):
My bad, it didn't count.

Speaker 8 (15:29):
It's j J.

Speaker 6 (15:35):
J oh, lord geez.

Speaker 3 (15:39):
Maybe not maybe he laughed, he laughed? What No, I mean, Look,
he's my friend anyway.

Speaker 7 (15:45):
He's just my friend. If a girl he's messing with
his he's just my friends my home. Yeah, well we
have not had sex since February of twenty twenty two.

Speaker 4 (15:54):
No, it's true.

Speaker 3 (16:00):
My line, Dustin, get your aries, sister.

Speaker 4 (16:08):
We are we are.

Speaker 6 (16:09):
Pleasant, we are kind menaces.

Speaker 5 (16:12):
Mhm mm hmmm, Yin and Yang over here's fucking.

Speaker 4 (16:16):
I'm fucking. We just kind of battle each other out.

Speaker 3 (16:19):
Then we're gonna.

Speaker 5 (16:22):
I'm still gonna be balanced, you know what I'm Sayings
and cloth and hold you.

Speaker 1 (16:31):
So look what we'll what we will see in next
week's episode is the Bells go on a trip and
uh that is started by Carrie Paul. They go to
the Gulf Coast where they get to be able to
be you know, in her jurisdiction. And then you will
see Latrees and Latitia come face to face with what's

(16:54):
going on.

Speaker 3 (16:55):
So rain Drops, let me know in the comments, whose
side are you on?

Speaker 1 (17:01):
Are you on the tree side, Latitia side, glennstide.

Speaker 5 (17:06):
Or man side, Carrie side, or Whitley's side. I'm so
glad of her making the Witlly Gilbert references.

Speaker 4 (17:13):
We get it.

Speaker 5 (17:14):
You've been told that you look like Whitley Gilbert over
the years, and it's something that you have attached yourself to,
and you wanted to bring it into the television landscape.
We heard it the first time you said it. We
heard it the second time you said it. We heard
it the third time you made the reference. We don't
need to hear no more Whitley Gilbert references from Carrie.

Speaker 7 (17:32):
Now y'all have to have a friend that was told
they look like a celebrity and they like wear it out.

Speaker 5 (17:37):
Oh my god, the worst in the world. Like, God, damn,
you look like you, But you look like you?

Speaker 4 (17:47):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 7 (18:01):
Oh wait, all right, this is mean, but we gotta
pull the face back a little bit.

Speaker 6 (18:12):
Now. Only now you got me being a mean girl.
I need a drink you. Oh my god, listen, I'm
doing it. I have to take I'm doing it. It's
gonna be Doctor Truesdale and Beverly Hills.

Speaker 7 (18:29):
He specialized on black women I'm saying that I'm gonna
I'm gonna get ahead of the story.

Speaker 3 (18:34):
When you see me.

Speaker 6 (18:34):
With the fourteen year old face, it ain't a filter.
I'm getting it. I'm gonna tell y'all, Yes, I need
two weeks off to heal.

Speaker 1 (18:45):
This is reality with the King and I'm Carlos King.
Let's get back into the show.

Speaker 3 (18:52):
Well, look, we have the Man of the hour plot.

Speaker 1 (18:56):
I know you have to run off really quickly, so
that's I'm gonna have to ask the first question, you know,
our special guest.

Speaker 3 (19:02):
And when the hop Bob will still be on. But
here is the man of the conversation.

Speaker 1 (19:10):
Rad Drafts give it up for the one the only
Glendale person.

Speaker 8 (19:16):
How you guys doing?

Speaker 9 (19:17):
How you guys doing? My nickname should be always in
trouble always.

Speaker 8 (19:29):
We feel like that.

Speaker 6 (19:30):
Do you feel like you're always in trouble?

Speaker 8 (19:31):
Glenn? I really do, I really do. And you know
I get it.

Speaker 9 (19:36):
You know, my wife and I we came onto this show,
uh with the you know, intentions of being able to
show people how to navigate through tough times. When you
were in a thirty plus relationship with someone, You're gonna
go through different stages of life with each of them.
And you know, we all know women mature way cooker

(19:58):
than me. I'm gonna just the person say that, you know, hey, look,
that's not that's that's that's not a topic of the conversation.

Speaker 8 (20:08):
But I have no pros you run it up. I'my
five years old, five.

Speaker 9 (20:19):
And you know we we we came on here with
our real life, the truth. And you know when you
do that and you're the cloud, people are gonna come
for you. People are gonna organize your truth, your vulnerability,
you know, to make themselves look good.

Speaker 8 (20:38):
But one thing I learned, you will never prosper of
someone's paying for yourself gaining. You know that it just
won't happen, you know.

Speaker 9 (20:47):
So here I am in the hot seat again, but
I'm used to being in the hot seat over something
that I've done. And one of those can I'm sure
you can attest this. I have stood and everything I've
done since season one.

Speaker 7 (21:05):
That's a good character is to have on reality. So
I'm gonna ask you this. Your answer kind of implied.
It's other people kind of like, you know, praying on
your downfall, and you're kind of like the victim in this,
like it's other people coming for y'all. Right, do you
think you've done? Do you what do you feel like
you've done? You contribute to this like?

Speaker 6 (21:23):
Or is nothing? It's nothing? But do you think like
I could have done this better? I should have done that?
Is there anything that you could say to.

Speaker 8 (21:29):
The particular situation on pride?

Speaker 6 (21:33):
Let's stick with this one.

Speaker 8 (21:34):
Okay, with this one. No, I'm totally innocent, totally.

Speaker 9 (21:40):
I do take accountability of treating people the way I
would like to be treated. So my personality they make
confuse people. You see what I'm saying. I'm always smiling.
I try to stay up beat. I'm a positive person
you see, and with that that I learned in this

(22:01):
business that can mean something totally different to someone else.
If you get what I'm saying. If it was anything
anything there, there would be no messages in my phone.
They would be deleted. Let's just be seeing. Every message
is still there.

Speaker 8 (22:21):
You know.

Speaker 9 (22:22):
It was nothing to hide. It was good intentions on
my behalf. But I'm here again. I'm I'm I'm right
here again. It's becoming too familiar at this point.

Speaker 5 (22:37):
Okay, So my man, Glenn, I ain't gonna say Glenn,
I feel like they only say your full first name
when they feel like you're be't fucked up.

Speaker 9 (22:44):
You know what, Glen, I'm glad you said that. Okay,
over with, it's over there. Don't reintroducing myself as Gee.
But you can go ahead with Glenn.

Speaker 4 (22:58):
Yeah, with me, I'm d what's up? G shit? So
there you go, Bro.

Speaker 5 (23:05):
So this your opportunity, right because a lot of people
have accused you of talking in circles man or like
speaking to things other than what the real issue is.

Speaker 4 (23:14):
Right.

Speaker 5 (23:15):
So with this situation where the Cat, the new Cats
member Amanda that we've seen previously on the show, but
we were introduced to for the first time this season, right,
she's making some very real allegations that you have betrayed
the integrity of your marriage to Latsia by some sort
of communication with her. You said that y'all danced, like
if you could just lay it out as clear as

(23:38):
just water. You know what I'm saying, What and what
are you saying you did not do when it comes
to Amanda. Just so you can clear your name, bro,
you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 9 (23:49):
First of all, D when I said we danced, it's
no different than me dancing with my homeboys like she
was the only she we jamming off.

Speaker 8 (24:01):
Little Boosy said it off. We got slow jams. I'm saying.

Speaker 9 (24:05):
So that's that's That's what I'm saying. So people could
take that and twist that around.

Speaker 8 (24:10):
We got our bottle. We like that type the same way.

Speaker 9 (24:16):
I've danced with Clip, I've danced with the Truth and
my wife, you know, all of us. We've been in
the same settings so many times, so many times. You
see what I'm saying to me, this was nothing more
than an audition. It was an attack on my marriage.

(24:36):
I feel like I was targeted and I'm not here
to befind anything. These are just the things that I'm
observing because I have emotions too.

Speaker 8 (24:44):
I'm a human being. I have a ten year old son.

Speaker 9 (24:47):
You see, I'm the only peerson that's in the household
with his family. I am rooted and I'm going to
break this this generational curse. My son will be raised
in the same household with his mother and his father,
and you know with that, I have to take accountability
for that.

Speaker 8 (25:07):
You know, means a lot my.

Speaker 9 (25:11):
Actions, just because what my intentions are is could say something.

Speaker 8 (25:15):
Different about my actions if you if you follow what I'm.

Speaker 9 (25:18):
Saying, you know, I don't know, man, this this was
so left feel for me.

Speaker 8 (25:26):
This is this is, this is different, just when it's different.

Speaker 4 (25:30):
Accused you of? Glenn?

Speaker 5 (25:31):
Is she saying like y'all went on dates? Is she
trying to say, y'all like what was hanging out kicking
it one on one in an inappropriate way?

Speaker 4 (25:39):
What is she accusing you of?

Speaker 5 (25:40):
When it comes to it's kind of unclear from the
d MS to some messages to the chilling the god like,
what's the accusation?

Speaker 4 (25:48):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 9 (25:50):
I'm just as lost as y'all are. I'm watching this
with y'all see what I'm saying this in real time.
So with the d M thing, it was nothing no
more than what I was saying to my homeboys, Like
she was really like everybody know Latree's her addresser as
the homies. She like women, you see me. There's nothing

(26:14):
wrong with that. That's your choice. I don't judge. I
have I don't care about that, you know I don't.
I don't judge people.

Speaker 8 (26:22):
You know you are.

Speaker 9 (26:23):
You know what I'm saying, whatever makes you happy, hey,
go with it. You know what I mean, I just
feel like, you know, my honest opinion is like I
was honest about my infidelity when we first came onto
the show, and people they see a crack, they see

(26:44):
an opportunity, and they're gonna take it. You know, her
attentions and my attentions had to be two different meanings,
if you know what I mean. Let's be clear, latrese
have bought friend after friend after friend onto the show

(27:04):
to somehow attack someone else, throw the rock hot your hand.

Speaker 8 (27:09):
You know, I'm not.

Speaker 9 (27:13):
A fan of that because I stand firmly in what
I do.

Speaker 8 (27:18):
You see what I'm saying now, guilty, Hey, I'd have
been the first one out here.

Speaker 9 (27:21):
Like man, listen, men, te shirt. We wasn't together, we
were separated, or we was going through our little spit.
You know, Yeah, I shot out a man, but after
I came to my senses, I didn't do anything. It's
none of that. It's none of that. I will have
no problem admitting that. You know, we was going through
a rough time at this point in time. You know,

(27:44):
we've been very vulnerable and understood throughout this whole. Dude,
we've been very old.

Speaker 8 (27:51):
And you know people would use that to weaponize it
against you. Man.

Speaker 9 (27:55):
But I am gonna say this much given much is required,
and to me, this is me paying my contributions to
the requirements.

Speaker 8 (28:04):
You know.

Speaker 9 (28:05):
I wake up every day, I pray for my family.
Before I go to bed, I pray for my family.
We pray together, you know, man, I am really on
a journey that's really important to me, nobody else. I mean,
this show is getting bigger and bigger and bigger. Every

(28:27):
state that I go to, I'm recognized.

Speaker 8 (28:30):
You see what I'm saying.

Speaker 9 (28:31):
And it's a bittersweet type of thing because my personality
is I'm bubbly, I'm you know, what's what's good everybody.
I don't be the stranger. But now I have to
be stuck up. I have to be turned the head
like I don't see you. No, I don't want to
take the picture or you know, I don't. I feel

(28:55):
unsafe to speak to you. I don't smile as much,
no more so. I feel like, you know, I can't
even really be me because of my past.

Speaker 8 (29:05):
They have an e for a reason.

Speaker 6 (29:08):
I have to run.

Speaker 7 (29:09):
But I want to ask you two questions real quick.
When we saw the last episode, in the scene with
you and your wife. It was really emotional for you
to you know, it was like, you know, how did
you feel when you saw that episode, that scene, how
did what it make you feel?

Speaker 8 (29:26):
Pain? It hurts because once again I opened the door.

Speaker 9 (29:32):
Our door has been opened and behind my name to
pain my wife yet again, and you know.

Speaker 8 (29:42):
It hurts. It hurts.

Speaker 9 (29:44):
But in another sense, I feel like my wife should
have my back on this because she knows it's a lot.

Speaker 8 (29:53):
She knew this is a lie. She know for effect,
it's not a time.

Speaker 9 (29:58):
She can't call my phone, I don't answer. She has
my locations, she has ancense to my my my social media.
Like I'm doing everything differently than what I used to.
And it's like, damn if I do, damn if I don't,
because I'm Glendale.

Speaker 8 (30:18):
Well, she said.

Speaker 7 (30:19):
We asked her how you were, and she said, you're healthy?
Are you healthy?

Speaker 8 (30:23):
I found out that I was very healthy. Right here.

Speaker 7 (30:31):
I got hop off bath of love. But hey, I
wish you guys the best. I mean, she's a great lady,
and you know we love to see black love.

Speaker 9 (30:41):
So yeah, she was an amazing person, man, And I
can't wait for the world to see how amazing she
really is. If it's anyone deserving of that, it's most
definitely hurt This girl is literally a walking angel on earth,
and this with the cameras off, this is who she
really is, and it hurts me that people can come

(31:03):
and attack her through me, through her supposed to be protected.

Speaker 8 (31:07):
You see what I'm saying. It It hits different, man.
That's why.

Speaker 9 (31:11):
That's one of the major reasons why I looked at
myself and started this journey on, like.

Speaker 8 (31:17):
What's wrong with me?

Speaker 9 (31:19):
What did it stem? Let's get to the bottom of this,
Let's get to the roots. I want to kill this.
I want to did this, you know. And yeah, it's
not an easy journey. I'm not gonna lie about you.

Speaker 8 (31:31):
It's not an easy journey.

Speaker 3 (31:34):
I do want to ask you this.

Speaker 1 (31:36):
One of the things that you got a chance to
see was the first episode you saw when Amanda showed
Tambra and Latrees these dms, when she said you're her type,
she likes some black, she likes a little bit ugly,
and all of those things.

Speaker 3 (31:53):
What did you think when you saw that scene.

Speaker 1 (31:57):
Amanda telling this to Latrees and Tambra and seeing LaTrece
and Tamra's reaction to it.

Speaker 9 (32:04):
Man, that hurt me worse than what Amanda actually said,
because you know, LaTrece to Latitia is a little sister,
and the situation would have been handled totally different if
the shoe was on the other foot.

Speaker 8 (32:21):
She would have didn't that. It would have been no laughing.

Speaker 9 (32:24):
It'd been like, are you serious, Oh, let's get such
such on the phone right now.

Speaker 8 (32:28):
You know, let's let's let's let's get to the bottom
of this. How dare he?

Speaker 9 (32:32):
You know, it wouldn't have been no key, key type
of situation at all.

Speaker 8 (32:36):
You know that that that angered me.

Speaker 9 (32:39):
I'm not gonna lie, you know, I like to stay
in character, but that that right there showed me a
lot about people that I consider family. I just.

Speaker 5 (32:51):
So like, there's gonna be some people who will listen
to this conversation and probably have more questions. And I
feel like the great opportunity here is to like illuminate
this shit as bright as you can, right, to offer
clarity to everything, bro, so that you can be understood,
you know what I'm saying, and people can actually get

(33:12):
your perspective and understand what it is that you're saying.
In the scenes this week and in last week's episode,
as well.

Speaker 4 (33:18):
Amanda.

Speaker 5 (33:19):
It seemed like she had some information that she had
been holding on to that would be influential or make
Leticia have some sort of reaction, right Titia went to
check the DM.

Speaker 4 (33:31):
She said that it was message she was privy to before.

Speaker 5 (33:34):
So what is it that you feel like Letitia could
have had your back a little bit more with in
regards to this situation with Amanda?

Speaker 9 (33:43):
It was nothing appropriate on that I talked to another,
just like I talked to the homies.

Speaker 8 (33:47):
You see what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (33:50):
Now.

Speaker 9 (33:50):
What I will say and I probably shouldn't say this
is now because I have a really, really, really great job.

Speaker 8 (33:57):
Now we have.

Speaker 9 (34:00):
When you go and your cologne smell like cush when
you come back.

Speaker 8 (34:06):
Me and you know that. But it was never alone
raised me and the guys and her feel me. Yeah,
you know one type deal, you know what I mean?

Speaker 4 (34:19):
Yeah, See that makes sense. That makes it clear, you
know what I'm saying, like what it is and what
it's not.

Speaker 9 (34:24):
More so, Yeah, that's that's the only thing, d that
I feel like.

Speaker 8 (34:33):
She she she had a.

Speaker 5 (34:34):
Moment conversationally bro to y'all ever like kind of you're
looking good, you look good, you know, like casual flirtation.

Speaker 9 (34:44):
No DMN, and like damn, I want to get with you.

Speaker 8 (34:48):
Hey, let's meet here tonight. She can, I can? I can?
I can? I come through? You know that none of that,
none of that. Hunt these out on the story and
I was like, man, what y'all said? Take your ass home?
That tight? You see.

Speaker 9 (35:05):
It's like like Jesson is not a real safe city,
you know what I mean?

Speaker 8 (35:12):
It has its probe and as cunse you know.

Speaker 9 (35:15):
So I'm a protector, Like I grew up with nothing
but women, you see what I'm saying, So I had
I have this this this big brother mentality, you know
what I mean, Like I'm gonna keep it the honey
with you, you know what I mean. I never knew
that we was being set up for an embush. You

(35:39):
know what's crazy. Latrice called my wife and you know,
she was looking for a caterer. My wife got on
the phone, found a caterer. You know that was Latrice
didn't want to pay that much for one. You know,
we covered the rest of them. You see what I'm saying.
I'm resting home from work to make it to a

(35:59):
pool point, thinking I'm going to my friends, my family,
people have to see the family to.

Speaker 8 (36:04):
Have a kid back, you know, to relax.

Speaker 9 (36:07):
We didn't know that we was catering our own embush man.

Speaker 4 (36:10):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 8 (36:11):
You see what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (36:12):
I wish.

Speaker 5 (36:15):
What's your relationship with Cliff? Like now, Man, because you
and Cliff had a very close friendship.

Speaker 4 (36:19):
Has it been impacted by this?

Speaker 3 (36:21):
Well, don't give it away? Hold on, hold on, good question.
We have a few more episodes last.

Speaker 1 (36:33):
Okay, look, look just that I need everybody to watch us.
But but but they I will say, Glenn and Cliff.

Speaker 3 (36:45):
Have about one on one about this, uh that you
will see.

Speaker 1 (36:51):
Okay, but I will say that because because we do
have to go to second Glenn, this is your floor.

Speaker 4 (36:58):
You you have the floor.

Speaker 1 (37:00):
What is one thing that you want to tell the
belt collective? Deal worth right now? Who did watch you
know these past two episodes? Senior in the hot seat?
What message do you want to get a prose dom
This is your opportunity to speak directly to your fants
and to the be earth.

Speaker 9 (37:19):
First of all, allow someone pays to stay in the pains.
If someone is really getting in the work like I'm doing,
give me some grace. You know I'm not automatically guilty,
because I have been guilty before. You know, people can
be you know, rehabbed, and I'm putting in the work.

(37:41):
I'm really really digging deep, putting in the work, holding
myself accountable. A lot of the battles that I that
I'm fighting not even mine. They were handed to me,
and I'm making sure I'm not handing needs to.

Speaker 8 (37:57):
My little boy.

Speaker 9 (37:58):
You see what I'm saying. This is important to me.
Like my family, I live for, I would die for.
You know, if there's people out there that judge me, man,
I read to come in said, I'm a.

Speaker 8 (38:11):
Very strong mind, strong willed person, and I'm not gonna lie. Man.
Some of them here hard, you know. They call him
my wife stupid, leave him like you're with him, bleing
his trash.

Speaker 9 (38:23):
They don't see the father. They don't see the man
that works sixteen hour days. They don't see me waking
up making sure that everything is straight. I'm gonna tell
you something, Latitia and I could throw this whole marriage
way and I will still wake up every day. She
would still be the first thing on my mind, hurting
my son. I would still take care of you. If
we are still living in the same household. But I'm

(38:46):
gonna fight into the last heartbeat that never happens. I'm
gonna see her grow old. I'm gonna see Mercy and
Grace hang down by her knees. You know, she she's
gonna have to help me change my dyke.

Speaker 8 (39:05):
For one day. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 9 (39:07):
You know you're to be there until you know, God
stop our heartbeat, and you know, let one family make it.

Speaker 8 (39:16):
Let one make it.

Speaker 9 (39:18):
Just because I've been guilty before, it doesn't mean it
I'm guilty all the time.

Speaker 8 (39:22):
You know.

Speaker 9 (39:22):
I do understand how people can have opinions about people,
But to me, it seems like you got too much
time on your hand.

Speaker 8 (39:31):
You got too much. I don't have time to sit
back and worry about what's going on. But I'm glad
y'all watching because a lot of people watching. Oh my god,
I can't go.

Speaker 9 (39:41):
Yeah, I can't go nowhere without getting scolded without like,
you know, you an help.

Speaker 8 (39:47):
You know what I mean? You a fuck boy.

Speaker 9 (39:49):
And I really pray and put on the arm of
God before I walk outside every day because I don't
want to flip or stands out and throw my life away.
And I have someone to protect. I have a son
to raise. I'm his hero. When that man looked me
in my eyes and tell me, y'all all.

Speaker 8 (40:08):
Like that man it.

Speaker 4 (40:12):
Yeah, yeah, man. I want to see y'all win, Glenn.

Speaker 5 (40:16):
I've been watching the show from season one, episode one, Bro,
I've seen you and your wife Latitia. Y'ave seen how
much y'all love your son, Joshua. I know y'all you
want your family unit to work.

Speaker 4 (40:27):
Man. It's a lot of people.

Speaker 5 (40:28):
I just want to let you know, it's a lot
of us that watch the show that are actually rooting
for y'all to work out, rooting for y'all to make it, man,
supporting y'all's efforts. We want to see y'all continue to
love on y'all son and just build. Look, Letitia Pierson
enterprises everything else.

Speaker 4 (40:44):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (40:44):
We want to see all of that thrive, man. So
just try not to get discouraged in the commentary. And
that's what makes conversational spaces like this so dope, because,
like Carlos just illuminated, this is your opportunity to just have.

Speaker 4 (40:58):
The floor set the straight, let people.

Speaker 5 (41:01):
Know so that you won't be misunderstood in that way
or judge for some very personal matters in your past,
you know what I'm saying, So that I just want
you to have that though. That takeaway that there are
a lot of people that see you trying, you know
what I'm saying, and see definitely see Leticia trying.

Speaker 4 (41:18):
We see y'all loving y'all son, and we want you
all to make it. I just want you to know that, Bro.

Speaker 9 (41:23):
I appreciate that, and I this is this is something
positive that I've gotten from this.

Speaker 4 (41:29):
Now.

Speaker 8 (41:31):
Now, I just remember I didn't start this right. I
had start this. I want a temple season. I want
a temple season, you know what I mean.

Speaker 9 (41:41):
I want to be able to come in and it's
rainbows and skiles today every.

Speaker 4 (41:47):
Day and just yay, you know.

Speaker 8 (41:50):
But unfortunately, y'all, I don't have that opportunity.

Speaker 9 (41:53):
But just remember I don't owe no loyalty to nobody
other than my wife, my family, and this show callos King.

Speaker 8 (42:02):
I would ever be grateful for you for.

Speaker 9 (42:05):
Shining opportunity amongst black families that's trying showing the success
of business women, you know, black women that's out here
doing a thing. I really wish that you know, the
Bells would get their ship together instead of focusing on
bullshit and drama because they are sty heroes.

Speaker 8 (42:27):
So many little girls. Man, they are women are winning
that women.

Speaker 9 (42:33):
Strong, Black women are finally leading this race, this turning point.

Speaker 8 (42:40):
That that could change America. They could change the world.
You see what I'm saying. It's too many other things
that could be talking about about other than Glendale.

Speaker 9 (42:56):
Other than Glendale's penis. You know what I'm saying, It's
way more they could be talked about. You know, my
wife know where I am at all times. I come
home every night when I'm not on the road. You
see what I'm saying. When she called me tonight, We'll

(43:16):
be facetiming. I would be in they bed, missing my wife,
you know what I mean, wishing that she was there
with me. Her and Joshu who comes up and visit
me wife, He pops up and you love that.

Speaker 8 (43:27):
You see what I'm saying.

Speaker 9 (43:29):
Well, they don't show that part of Glendale. They don't
show that part of me. And that's okay because God
see and knows everything. And one more thing before I go.
It's a lot of things going on with the Rogers
on social media.

Speaker 8 (43:45):
That they could be worried about other than me. And
I'm gonna leave it.

Speaker 9 (43:48):
At that because I've always said, Carlos and you can
agree that I'm not gonna play with a man's family
nor his money, you see, no matter what. So I'm
not going to turn into what I've been through. I'm
not gonna, you know, put that on no one else.

Speaker 8 (44:08):
But it's plenty, plenty story, plenty story for them to share.
If people give their real lives, you see what I'm saying.

Speaker 9 (44:17):
We've been giving our real lives since day one, and
we will continue to do that.

Speaker 8 (44:21):
As long as Carlos give us this platform. You know,
that's just.

Speaker 3 (44:27):
Well, you know, I love you guys. I appreciate you
so much.

Speaker 1 (44:29):
Glen Dale, Latitia like like like you know, look, we
are definitely rooting for you guys to make it and
Rain Josh look Bell collective.

Speaker 3 (44:39):
You have to watch to see how the rest of
the season goes.

Speaker 1 (44:41):
Every Friday, eight o'clock seven Central on the Oprah Winfrey Network,
Dell thank you, doesn't.

Speaker 3 (44:49):
Thank you, brother, Thank you guys next week.

Speaker 1 (44:56):
Reality with the King is executive produced by me Carlos King,
produced by Lizzie Nimitz, and a partnership.

Speaker 4 (45:04):
With the Lack of Effect Network.

Speaker 1 (45:06):
You can also find us on my YouTube channel at
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