Best Friends for NEVER: RHOA Reunion Recap

It is part 2 of the RHOA Reunion time and Carlos, Dustin, and Claudia are READY. Not only do we have a reunion to recap, but today's Porsha vs Shamea Instagram feud is first up on the agenda. Will these two ever reconcile? What are we looking forward to on the conclusion of the reunion? The trio breaks it all down for the Reigndrops!

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:03):
Reality with the King is hosted by me, Carlos King.
I'm an executive producer who have produced some of your
favorite shows from the Real Housewives of Atlanta, New Jersey
and my own creation, The Love and Marriage Franchise and
Bell Collective. Every episode we recap reality television from the
Real Housewives Franchise to The Bachelor or Selling Sunset, in

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addition to celebrity guests, whether in the unscripted space or
scripted as well. So we are here to talk about
Hard two reunion of the Real Housewives of Atlanta, But
I want to start off by discussing what I feel

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like is the end of an era, and that is
the friendship between Porsche and Shmia. Now, as a journalist, Hey, Porsche,
as a journalis, I do want to make sure that
I read exactly what was said. But before I do that,
if you all watched Part two reunion last night, you

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know that towards the end the conversation steered between Porsche
and Shamia's friendship and where things went wrong. Porsche addressed
the fact that you know, there were things that Shamia
sent her interviews.

Speaker 2 (01:25):
She mentioned the breakfast club.

Speaker 1 (01:27):
She mentioned how she felt that Samiya was not telling
the truth about the wedding she went to.

Speaker 2 (01:34):
She felt that Shamia also was just on this.

Speaker 1 (01:39):
Camp paraphrase, of course, but on this campaign to pretty
much tear down her name, and Shamiah tried to find
the words to address it as well. This morning, Porscha
woke up on ready and decided to make sure to
address everything that she felt and Claudia and Dustin. She
provided a few receipt she has tagger unseen receieved r

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h o A.

Speaker 2 (02:06):
Number one.

Speaker 1 (02:06):
Queen Shamilla Mulwanghee first wedding. I'm by her side as
a bridesmaid. The location is Atlanta, Georgia. She spelled brides
made the s is not sidling Claudia, so we can
shut off the poster for that second wedding.

Speaker 2 (02:21):
The second.

Speaker 1 (02:24):
No no, no, no, no, no, you should okay.

Speaker 3 (02:29):
It's a great line.

Speaker 2 (02:31):
It's that big, all right. Second wedding was in Africa.
Reference interview at the Breakfast Club, Shamia stated, I.

Speaker 1 (02:39):
Only had one wedding and clearly she had to slide
number two live number two. I sent as Shamia Morton
Flowers to congratulate my bestie for her joining r h
o A for videos. She made thanking me, followed by
an excited congratulatory phone call I made to her, as
well as limpy tap on Instagram. Force Lives of Peach

(03:03):
photos of excitement celebrated Queen Marge as a full time
Housewiman peach holder. She ended it with Shamia. She added
her all caps lying again. In her latest post, she
claims flobbers with for her birthday when the car clearly
said love and congratulations.

Speaker 2 (03:23):
Queen now Claudia and Dustin.

Speaker 1 (03:26):
As I read Shamiah's response to that that she has
since deleted, Jamiah has said that again, I had one
wedding that took place in my Robi, Kenya where you
attended was my dowry ceremony in my mom's backyard. Number two,
you sent flowers my birthday week just before we started filming.

(03:50):
I had my peach for over a month. I only
said we never celebrated. You can keep your fake receiech
with are fake as friendship. It's crazy how I can
be considered your laptof for writing Paul so hard for you,
but at the same time you say I was trying

(04:12):
to sabotage you. Make it make sense since I got
my peach you've been trying to find a reason to
end this friendship. You're unbelievable, dusted, unbelievable.

Speaker 4 (04:28):
Oh remember that song. Listen, listen, listen, listen. I think
it's pretty clear what's going on here, right. Porscha and
Samia were childhood friends. Their mothers were friends, their mothers
fell out. They maintained whatever thread, you know, existence of
a friendship that they could and leaned on to the

(04:49):
fact that they were childhood friends.

Speaker 5 (04:51):
Right. They spent time together.

Speaker 4 (04:53):
Smilah was television ready when Porscha got on the show,
and she needed a friend that could feel and had
personality and was connected in the city and shit and
ready for the opportunity.

Speaker 5 (05:02):
Shamilla was ready.

Speaker 4 (05:03):
They were able to say with honesty, Yes, we were
childhood friends. We were besties. That's what they brought to television.
Porscha did some low down shit to Shamia on TV
when she let Faedra sit up there and say that
Shamillah was fucking candy and tied and she did this
and said they doing them both and all of that,
and then perpetuated that rumor that Shamillah was a third

(05:25):
person in the bedroom. Candy and tied. They never got
over that. Okay, they never got over that, and they
weren't real friends, in real close relationship with each other.
Enter the television show. Enter Shamiah being a housewife. Now right,
They're thrust on this main stage with a relationship full
of issues. Phadri's back every time she sees every time

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Shamia sees Faedro, I'm sure she's triggered. She's playing nice,
which is the problem. Shamiah never addressed the shit that
really pissed her off, which was Portia supporting that lie. Okay,
And unfortunately, instead, instead of addressing it head on, Shamia
made a lot of passive, aggressive digs, and she talked
about Porsche behind her back, and she retaliated in a

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way that can be deemed sneaky or you know, underhanded,
and made her then look like she was at fault.
That's what happened. So what we saw today was the
culmination of all of that. They ain't real friends, they
hadn't been in a close friendship for a very long time.
Samiah getting close to Kelly. Sure, they are pissed, Porsche off,

(06:31):
Samiah talking about Porscha and the things that she was
upset with, about that friendship. I'm sure that pissed Porsche off,
and Porsche was actually holding back on that reunion stage.
We've seen Porsche in the heat of an argument. We
know how Porscha gives it up. She was actually holding
back on that stage. Shamiyah was lying on the stage.
Porscha was lying on the stage. We don't know who

(06:54):
was lying about what, but they both were lying on
the stage trying to protect whatever's kind of privacy they had.
That's literally what happened, and unfortunately they're what we thought
was a real friendship. We had to see it break down.
But it's just that simple to me, you know what
I'm saying. Instead of Shmia addressing some very relevant and
real issues that she had with Porscha, she saved that

(07:18):
and kept it inside, which was not healthy, you know
what I'm saying. And then as the show came to
fruition opportunities or roles for her to kind of take
digs or maybe tell a little bit too much of
how she truly felt without addressing it with Porsha first.

Speaker 5 (07:32):
And here we are. So that's what I saw happen today.

Speaker 1 (07:37):
All right, So thank you all for coming to Mond
and night life, but Nolada, before you begin, I will
say this, dust that literally I was taking notes because
I want to make sure that I don't forget a
big point of my point that I was gonna say
after you, Claudia, and I still will. But what I

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will say is Dustin said ninety nine percent of what
I was going to say, Claudia, Jordan, is your turn
speak for the people.

Speaker 3 (08:05):
I mean, that's why he's so good at this. That's
in you. Your your emotional intelligence and the way you
comprehend situations and can call things out and say it
so eloquently. I think was amazing spot on. I think
this is an example of what happens in girl friendships
when one feels like a bigger person than the other
and you kind of in the shadows and you're kind

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of a little bit. I won't say Sami has been
a fan of Porsche's, but sometimes I think earlier on
she would be overshadowed by Porsche's fame and big personality.
Although Shemia does have the tangible things that Porsche really wants,
and I think a lot of times to make keep
the peace, I don't think Smid had defended herself when
things happened, and it's built up in aimosity and you

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keep score, right, Like she's probably always been talking about
Porsche to some another friend, like you know this is
to come to my way, do you know? But publicly
she had a she kept a good face, a solid,
you know, front with Porsche. But I remember when I
was on like ten years ago in Atlanta hearing about
them them being a riff then because I remember seeing

(09:11):
hearing that they weren't fucking with each other for a while,
because I remember Smia being very friendly to me and
not in a shady way towards Porscha. But I remember
being like wow, like usually best friends don't fratnize with
the enemy of or not the enemy, but something that
their best you don't really rock with, right. So I
remember just hearing just were on the street. It wasn't
like a big deal, but I remember hearing that they
had kind of kind of distanced a little bit. So

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when I heard they were back here and there, I
was like, oh, okay, I guess they worked it out.
I do think that for years Shemiah has been hurt
by some of Porscha's actions and never confronted her properly
and she's also a rookie at reality television, so she's
not as good as reading it, clocking it, insaying it
right away. And I also think when you still love

(09:54):
someone even though you're mad at them. And I think
they were both doing this like desin what you said
so greatly, uh how like holding back. I think they
both were until it got They had to burn the
whole thing down for us to really get the thing
that the real ruts, because at first you just throw
a load that well, I mean, I don't know about that,
but you're not really saying what it is. I think

(10:15):
by the next reunion and all the social media stuff,
once you you're like, well, fuck it. I think it's
a matter of you go first, No, you go first?
Oh you go? Are you going there? Fuck it? Now,
I gotta unload on you if no one wants to
go first, full full fledged, like fully unloading the clip.
And I think the clip's been unloaded now and I
think now we're gonna hear a lot more. And I
think they both have things that have been bothering them

(10:37):
that they've been holding onto and now it's gonna come out.
Which sucks because when you're bestied with someone you have
all the ammunition in the world, and you can make
a receipt look like anything because you have receipts from
all angles and you have you can you can craft
whatever story you want because you have all the you
have all the information, which sucks. You know, it does suck.

Speaker 2 (10:58):
Yeah, I mean, look you two.

Speaker 1 (11:02):
Claudia also said ninety nine point nine percent of things
I would say when I would like to add to
the conversation, I want to start up by saying this,
This obviously is entertainment for Claudia, Dustin and myself, right,
but we do not, obviously want to see the destruction
the childhood friendship happen. So I want to start by

(11:23):
saying that I've been doing press for Love and Marriage Huntsville.

Speaker 2 (11:27):
That's back on air.

Speaker 3 (11:29):
Oh, you've got all over the net, all over the timelines,
You've been everywhere. I love it.

Speaker 4 (11:33):
The amazing season premiere. Btw. I'm sure we'll talk about
it at some point.

Speaker 2 (11:38):
We will. Thank you so much. Okay.

Speaker 1 (11:40):
So, as I'm doing press for Love and Marge Huntsville,
a few journalists have been asking me, and this is
a place to talk about it. I've been asked a
lot of times for the past couple of days. Do
you feel responsible when your cat's members is good at divorce?
And I say, and I'll say this again, absolutely not.
I don't feel no respectility for cast members getting a

(12:02):
divorce because they have problems before there was a camera
inside their household. They have problems and their marriages before
there was a camera. Rah the camera picked up on
the nuances of their marriages, and the audience obviously saw
some things. The reality star who's watching it saw some
things about like I'll.

Speaker 2 (12:23):
Put it with that shit you talk to me like that,
and the rest is history.

Speaker 3 (12:27):
Right.

Speaker 1 (12:28):
I bring that up to say this, the Real Housewives
of Atlanta did not Realuin Shamia in Portius breakship and
what we're.

Speaker 2 (12:37):
Gonna do tonight and to have a real conversation.

Speaker 1 (12:39):
And we talked about this since since fifteen weeks ago,
for the past sixteen weeks and I'm sorry twenty weeks. Claudia,
myself and Dustin talked about the fact that and when
I say that, I'm not being disrespectful. So hear me out.

(13:00):
You have been a vet on a show. It's very
hard to see your friend come on your platform. I'm
not saying Porscha said this. I'm not saying I know
she feels that way. I'm basing this.

Speaker 2 (13:11):
Off of my knowledge of what I do for a living.

Speaker 1 (13:14):
Right, Porscha is a varsity player and Samiah is a rookie,
and that was evident in last night's performance at the reunion.

Speaker 2 (13:27):
Shamia is beautiful, Shamia's talented.

Speaker 1 (13:34):
Porscha was Lebron James last night that reunion, and everyone
else looked like they were on this on on the bench.
And when I say that, what I'm saying is Porscha
had enough experience to make sure that her points were heard.
And I think when it came to Shami and Porsha,

(13:54):
I've also heard that they weren't the best of friends
like they used to be.

Speaker 2 (13:57):
Right, that's their started, not mine.

Speaker 1 (14:00):
But what I will say is this, Claudia dust and
both clocked it in the sense of they love each
other so much that they both.

Speaker 2 (14:07):
Don't want to go deep and dirty.

Speaker 1 (14:09):
And what I think happened is Shamiah has held a
rightful grudge. Absolutely, Shamiah has held a rightful grudge for
what conversation Portie was happening with Chara and Pedra. Rightfully

(14:30):
so right Now what happened was they never once sat
down and spoke about it in grand detail. And if
y'all watched the reunion, that's why when Fedra told Shemiah,
what you're doing interview talking about me? We addressed it
off camera. Well that's problem number one. That disrespect happened

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on camera the same way you disrespect me. I need
that respect to also happen in the same format. And
Shamiah has been feeling like the step children of destiny
because she she has been called a whore, she has
been called somebody that I don't know what Shamia does

(15:14):
her bedroom, not that do I care. But if I
look back on this the same way I could look
back and look at Britt as a friend to Kenya,
which I am and say, I will always feel sorry
for Britt for having not that we know it wasn't
hers allegedly, but to come on a show and having
those images. Sean, I don't care who you are. I

(15:36):
will always feel bad that she had to go through that.
Its publicly embarrassing what Shamir experienced see the Nine was
a public embarrassment. The off camera conversation that happened right
before the filming of favor coming back was the final nail,
the confident of Shamiah's ability to defend herself. Shamia do

(16:00):
not have the ability to defend herself because Smiah, in
my opinion, has held on to pain for years and
she doesn't have the articulation right now to find all
of those pieces of the puzzle so it could make sense.
And that's the reason why she is having problems on

(16:22):
the reunion addressing it and Porsha is winning because Porscha
has addressed it numerous times. The issue between Shami and Porsche,
in my opinion, also has a lot to do with
if me and dustin't have been friends since we were twelve,
and our mothers were friends since they were a young

(16:44):
girl too. As much as I love me from Dustin Ross,
if his mother and my mother aren't getting along, I can't.
I can't mess with dust In the same way. And
that's not These are conversation that Portia and Shamir are
not having with each other, and that was evident last night,

(17:05):
and that's the reason why this morning we walk up
to a sunami of events, Hey, Tsha, A tsunami of events.

Speaker 2 (17:14):
Two friends.

Speaker 1 (17:17):
Blast at each other and the sad part is this,
All of this could have been fine if the moment
Phaser came on the show, the three of them had
a real conversation if I was Smiah.

Speaker 3 (17:31):
And not to say that she's all in all this
before I start this right, she has that role of
plants as well. You know, I hate to see when
I had a friend that was in an abusive friendship
with a female friend, not that they were in a relationship,
but as friends. She was definitely swallowed up by the
other girl, like never really had you could be heard never,

(17:52):
but we complained to me about things I'm like tell
her and for some reason an intimidation like a fear
or something. If my soul called best friend was Keiki
and ka ka and ha ha and giggling about me
being a whore and cheating on my husband and it's
not true, or even if it is true, and you're
doing that with another woman, Phaedra, And then I have

(18:14):
to go on to see you on TV as freakin'
frak and being such like Thicke as Theason buddy buddy.
That would not only break my heart, but it would
make me not want to fuck with you. It would
make me not want to fuck with you, I would
feel like, how can I trust you? Like, first of all,
y'all can be friends, but you better check her first.

Speaker 5 (18:31):
Right there?

Speaker 2 (18:32):
Stand for me? There, you can move on, but.

Speaker 3 (18:34):
You better say something and not just in the privacy
the comfort of your home. Onwn A text as loud
like Carlo said, as you disrespected me, I need you
to address it publicly or I'm gonna look like a
fool carrying your water. But then Tama, I mean Shamiya
continue to carry water for Porsche and have her back.
So it made us be like are you? Are you weak?

(18:55):
What's going on here? And the reunion didn't do any
favorites because I think as much as she's pissed that
for sure, like you said, both of you, she's just
not that good at I think she's not. I think
she's a little bit in disweek, Like I can't believe
I'm fighting with my girl like this. She lost the fight,
you know, she is like that, she's getting eaten up
today and I feel bad, like if you gotta That's

(19:15):
why you had to check that ship the first time
it happens, because then the second time it gets harder
and harder to say something once you've allowed it for
so long. The person that's doing it is like she
ain't gonna do nothing, and then you kind of feel
lower and lower and lower with your self esteem.

Speaker 1 (19:33):
This is reality with the King, and I'm Carlos King.

Speaker 2 (19:36):
Let's get back into the show.

Speaker 1 (19:39):
Listen the reason why I subscribe to and Claudia if
I may, if you're okay with it, if not, tell
me to stop. Me and Claudia last week kind of
conversation after we filmed about whatever, and one thing I
said to Claudia, I said, I want you to know this,
Oh yeah, yeah, if I ever feel any kind of
way about you, I will call you. I'm never gonna

(20:00):
sneak I'm never gonna sneak tweet this you. I'm never
going to do subliminals with you.

Speaker 2 (20:05):
I said.

Speaker 1 (20:06):
In order for us to have this fruitful, working relationship
as friends, just know vice versa. If I say something
to you, let's have a real conversation the moment, because
what the what people don't understand is this these confessor in.

Speaker 2 (20:22):
You yes for so long that you let's be real, y'all.

Speaker 1 (20:26):
You sometimes forget while you're mad at somebody, but you
know something happened and what I'm saying, is I'm not
on portious side or Shia's side. I'm on the side
of these two friends have yet have yet to have
a conversation based on something so egregious and the reason why,

(20:47):
and I'm gonna say this and whatever, the biggest downfall
of that friendship is the fact that they weren't honest
with each other in the beginning. If you feel some
kind of way about my friend isn't getting me on
the show? I said, it's fifteen weeks ago. I really

(21:09):
want to ask shamiyas Shemia if you're listening, Happy anniversary
your vacation. My phone still works, so it was Claudia's
and the chat. I really need to know this. I
need to know if Shmia ever said to Portsie I
would like to be on the real Hospitals of Atlanta,
can you put your sister on? And if that never happened,

(21:31):
I don't And I could be the minority in this
and is fine. I will never blame Porsche for this
narrative that she put her friend on. If my friend
did not come to me, Claudia has come to me
with things. I've come to her with things. Dustin and
I vice versa. I can't help you if I don't know.
But Dustin, do you think that's the case. Do you

(21:52):
think do you think a lot of this is because
Shemiah has allowed things to suppress. But if she never
once told Porstia I would like to be a house
to WiFi to her, can you put your girl on?
And she didn't do it, then is that Porsa's fault.

Speaker 4 (22:10):
I can see a world where that would be relevant
to the breakdown of their relationship, But I think their
issue is a lot bigger than that, and it started
a lot earlier than that. I think that they have
always referred to each other as best friends, childhood friends,
but they never really spent any time bonding or really
building that relationship outside of the occasions that they were

(22:32):
sharing space and in that moment, leaning on the fact
that they are quote unquote best childhood friends. Here's an example. Right,
They're probably not hanging out like that, kicking it like
that outside of work. But then when they're filming in
Nashville and the cameras go down, since we're best friends
and childhood friends, I'm down to set out here by

(22:54):
the pool and drink with you off camera and maybe
go a little bit further with what I'm sharing or
what I'm saying and laugh at you making a comment
about fucking Angela's husband.

Speaker 5 (23:04):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (23:05):
Because we're childhood best friends and so we have that
license to kind of be safe around each other, but
you're really not safe because they don't know each other.

Speaker 5 (23:13):
On the reunion stage.

Speaker 4 (23:15):
When Andy asked Shamiyah if she had talked to Phaedra
and Porsha about her grievance related to the comments that
Faeder made during season nine, Porsha immediately interjected, it was like, no, no.

Speaker 5 (23:29):
You talk.

Speaker 4 (23:29):
I'm your best friend, and you talk to me. We spoke,
We talked about it. The dialogue is unnatural, you know
what I'm saying. You wouldn't even say that her insert
that title in that dialogue naturally, And it just reflects
a lack of genuine connection and real knowledge of each other.
Smilla has never showed up in the fullness of who
she is according to what we see now, and this

(23:52):
is assumptive on my behalf, but it doesn't seem like
she showed up in the totality of her personality, in
her relations and shit with Porsche, ever Porsche.

Speaker 5 (24:02):
This was her show, she was the star, she was
on TV.

Speaker 4 (24:04):
The focus was on getting to know her, and I
think that that kind of manifested itself in their personal relationship.
It's unfortunate Smia knows other people in the group better
than she knows Porsche.

Speaker 5 (24:16):
And that's what that is.

Speaker 4 (24:17):
So I think it was way bigger than just her
wanting to be on the show. They don't know each other,
but they said that they were best friends, and they
kind of leaned on that and got each other in
trouble doing it.

Speaker 5 (24:27):
It's just as simple.

Speaker 3 (24:28):
Sometimes you hang on to the nostalgia of someone you knew,
like you. There's a difference between meeting someone twenty years
ago and being friends for twenty years, right, And I've
had people say, oh, that's my girl, we've been friends
with twenty years.

Speaker 2 (24:44):
No, we haven't.

Speaker 3 (24:45):
We met twenty years ago, we went hard for a
few years. They were some years off, we came back
here and there. That's different. And I, like I said,
from my little experience, I definitely heard that they were
not rocking with it for a while. So seeing them
back as best friend, I was like, okay, cool. And
again I'm an outsider. I'm not involved in their friendship
like that. I will say this also, when you have

(25:07):
an unresolved like ripe with someone and you even it's
your faults to me, it is your fault for never
speaking your mind to Porsche. I'm going to say that
it is your fault for never telling her. You hurt
me when you said this, Tecker right away, because when
you don't do that, right, even though you're saying that
Porsche is your best friend, you are talking to somebody

(25:28):
else about that. Okay, you're talking to your other best
friend or your other friends or your man, and it's
a toxic conversation. Most likely. Can you believe she did this? Now?
Everything she does from then on out is through a
lens of side eye. And I don't really fuck with
you like that, Like I tell my friends once, I'm

(25:49):
not able to look you in the eye anymore. It's
probably because I talked shit about you and I wasn't
fooling with you, and I was mad at you, and
that's how you know I've checked out. I can't like
face you the same anymore. Some people good at it
being fake, continuing to be in someone's face, But hey, girl,
I'm not be good me. You'll see it all over
my face. I have to resolve something right away or
it's gonna fester and it's gonna be a wrap. They

(26:10):
have been able to play nice, and that's that Atlanta ship,
that Southern bell stuff that they do out here.

Speaker 2 (26:16):
It's barry.

Speaker 1 (26:16):
Atlanta girls are some, not all. Some of the Atlanta
girls in the industry are very clique ish. They go
to each other's events, they go to each other's slummer parties.
Is three separate groups of women in Atlanta. I'm not
going to tell you who the leaders are in the
three groups, but there's three and and like so like.

Speaker 3 (26:41):
Even though they both are saying, oh, best friends, best
friend's best friends, I guarantee you the second or third time,
or even probably the first time Shemiah felt slighted by Porsia,
she was on the phone with somebody else talking about it,
and they probably had lots of conversations about can you
believe she did this? Then every little thing after that
is going to be magnified, whether it was justified or not.

(27:03):
So maybe Housewives auditions came up and Shimia didn't say
I want to be on it, but portion didn't offered.
I guarantee you they could have been a phone call,
and man, why did I girl? She didn't get you?
Ain't that supposed to be your friend? I know it right,
And then it gets gassed and more gas gets put
on the flant. It's natural and it's not That's what
happens in friendship, especially with women, Like it's our women's friendships.

(27:25):
I always say this are extremely delicate. Y'all can get
in fights, play basketball, elbow each other, someone that gets
a black eye, and y'all shake it off. Man, it's
all good, dude, we good. We goold wrap it up.
A woman's friendship a lot of times sadly, and I
hate I have to say this about us is so
delicate where the smallest thing can be overblown because we
overly analyzed. Will be on the phone, and then we

(27:46):
have our other friend that's hyping us up with the battery.
And I'm telling you, a girl can like walk by
and go and you're like, why she looking me up
and down like that. I got mad on time and
a girl did that to me and then she humbled
me real quick. She was like, oh my god, I
love your shoes. I'm over here thinking it's beef. She
just just gave me a look and I took it
as and got defensive, and we that's something that women.

(28:09):
We've got to stop doing that, you know. But I
think with them it's a communication thing. And because I
think to me it felt like she was an underlying
or second tier to Portie, she probably felt a little
intimidation and that's sad. But there's a lot of friendship groups.
This stars in friendship circles right where there's like the
alphas and Ma calling SMI a beta. But maybe she

(28:29):
feels that way, like I can't really tell her how
I really feel all the way. And now we're getting
twenty years of it in three episodes, and it's gonna
be bad.

Speaker 2 (28:40):
Yeah, and listen and listen. I'll move on to the
rest of the reunion.

Speaker 1 (28:45):
But what I will say is this, and this could
be as we saw, like transition out of it. I
think the only way this would be resolved. And I'm
not even sure they're going to have the conversation. I'm
just being honest, because it wasn't had our d that
a conversation amocks the three of them needs to be had.

(29:06):
It's just it just has to it has to. It
just it's just it just has to. And what's what's
been so interesting to me is it's been brought up
in other conversations off the show. And that's why a
lot of people when they when a lot of people
look at the real housewords of Atlanta.

Speaker 2 (29:26):
Now, great season, A plus. Love this season.

Speaker 1 (29:30):
It is sort of the elephant in the room because
I think Porsia and Shamia are doing a disservice to
themselves by not having a real conversation about it first
and foremost. And I also think there has to be
something said that is also the elephant in the room.

Speaker 2 (29:52):
Okay, this season is Porsia's show.

Speaker 1 (29:56):
It is what it is, and that's no disrespecting of
the ladies who I love the Well, well, this is
what I'm saying. Porsche is the only VET on the
show this season. When I say that, I'm not diminishing
the other girls, but think about it, Porsche is the
vet amongst three newbies and Drus Dora, who, by the way,

(30:18):
y'all keep sleeping on Juice of Dora. I think Dreu
so Dora have proven this reunion that she is a
potential mother, and I think Drew So Dora is a
potential force multiplier and I think y'all are sleeping on juice.

Speaker 2 (30:32):
So Dora and the and the amazing that she has.

Speaker 1 (30:36):
But going back to this show, because Porsche is the VET,
and I felt like Porsche dribble slam dunk, did a
three point shot, fillowed, a couple of people got a
t o. Porsche played the game of the reunion in
this particular. He's in better than anybody on that stage.

(30:57):
And I love all of you girls, but Porsche owned
this reunion. And Porsche the moment she said there were
her gold dressed and told everybody, I'm not gone to talk.

Speaker 2 (31:09):
I'm gonna get my punt across. And they left her.

Speaker 3 (31:13):
Oh you mean the reunion now this season the reunion. Yeah,
I'm about to send yes.

Speaker 2 (31:20):
Yeah, I know.

Speaker 1 (31:21):
I know that a lot of people thought Porch was
a flop this season, and that's fine. But one thing
I will say, Porsche owned that reunion. And Porsche Porsia
was able to articulate herself. She was able to handle
things under pressure. That reunion, to me was Porsche's redemption

(31:41):
story arc based on her ability to get her point across.

Speaker 2 (31:47):
And I'm gonna say this, and it's not popular, but
I gotta be honest.

Speaker 1 (31:50):
I felt that all of the girls on that stage
was unable to handle what was coming their.

Speaker 4 (31:58):
Way, well the only so I agree that Porscha definitely
held court on their reunion stage.

Speaker 5 (32:05):
Right.

Speaker 4 (32:05):
To be fair, she's more seasoned than the rest of
the ladies on that stage. Cynthia has completely completely taken
up her space as a friend of the show and
her understanding and interpretation of that capacity, so she don't
really give a damn about being all the way deeply
into the mix like that.

Speaker 5 (32:23):
Right, So the.

Speaker 4 (32:26):
Porscha was the only VET on that stage, per se,
Shemiah is still concerned with how she appears or comes
across on camera, right, So she's not They could have
made that alliance on camera type shit. You know what
I'm saying, Be who you are on the camera, Sit
the girls down on camera and just be like, yo,
I feel like we all need to sit stick together

(32:49):
as we navigate this friend group because we're all new
to it. They should have did that on camera, the
same way Nini and Marlow said down at their restaurant
in season four and talked about going shopping. The next
thing you knew there was a duo for the rest
of the season, right when they thought they was gonna
beef out do it on camera. That being said, Porscha
didn't really have an opponent on the stage other than Kelly.

(33:09):
Kelly really don't give a damn and we'll say what
she has to say. And she was kind of zinging Porscha.
She was whacking Porscha a little bit from her side
of the stage. You know, Kelly was doing her thing.
Drew Sodora. I know she had a crook in her
neck the next day from all that leaning. She was
doing the whole damn reunion. Drew Sodora was doing like this,
tearing the ass up to doing like this the whole

(33:33):
damn reunion. You know what I mean That she got
her point across, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (33:40):
And so I don't know.

Speaker 4 (33:43):
I think that there was a presence of other energy
on stage. I think Angela Oakley did a great job
on stage. Angela did great. I thought the whole guy
I've always thought that that guy coming on camera was stupid.

Speaker 5 (33:56):
I hate the whole Charles cheating rumor.

Speaker 4 (33:58):
I have never been rased to move past anything more
in my life. I do not care that guy's ridiculous
June Bug Jack Faith, all of that. I could give
a damn you know what I'm saying. But Angela had
something to say and she showed herself formidable. That's what
we want from the housewives, you know what I mean.
So while Porscha did do her damn thing and dribble

(34:18):
that ball like a Harlem globe trotter on that reunion stage.

Speaker 5 (34:22):
You know what I'm saying, spending it on the rings.

Speaker 4 (34:24):
You know, even though she did that, she is not
like she had a real, you know, opponent on that stage.

Speaker 3 (34:35):
It's easy to be Lebron James when you have a
bunch of rookies around it. And I will say this,
during the season, Porscha absolutely did not carry the season
at all. She came off as a friend of the show.
But at the reunion she definitely health court and the
reunion because she's been there. A reunion is a very

(34:58):
intimidating thing. And I think a lot of time, like
it seemed like the girls are like thinking, all right,
I'll say it later. I'll just do it later, and
before you know it, that's part three is gonna be
over and there's no more later and you have to
wait till next season. So it's too late to give
them advice now because they already taped it. But like
it seemed like everyone's is kind of waiting. And Porscha
knows production. She's been on that show for many, many years,

(35:19):
so she knows. I'm a like she I will say this.
When she was getting into what with Drew, and she
knew there was winning that argument what you do manipulation,
whether it was real or not, got up, gave a
little fake hug over there. That took the heat off that,
that deflected that conversation. And then the stuff with Shemiah.
They're going back and forth. Porscha is railroading right over

(35:40):
talking over her. We can't really hear nothing else bea saying,
and all does sound like is oh you line, Porscha's
eating you up. So yeah, she's she's she is running
circles and the reunion, the vets, the one vet is
running circles at the reunion, and the rookies ran that
thing up during the season, So I don't know.

Speaker 1 (35:59):
Yeah, no, that's a that's a fair assessment. I do
want to get into the missing piece of this reunion
because not seeing brit and Kenya obviously was the biggest
flop in terms of us not being able to see
the completion of what happened. Britt decided not to show

(36:20):
up to the reunion. Kenya, I believe was not invited.
We weren't able to see the completion of what they started.
This reunion also made me miss Kenya because whether you
like Thank you Dustin, whether you like Kenya or not,
Kenya is an all star batting average of thousands when

(36:42):
it comes to her reunion performance. And I think that
to me, what I wanted to see not only have
Kenya address what occurred, but also just see Kenya in
the mix. And what we did find out in this
reunion was that sent and Kenya have not spoken to

(37:03):
each other since the images were released and she text
her and that happened almost close to a year ago.
How did you guys feel about that? That Cynthia Belly
and Kenya Moore have not spoken and close to a year.
Is this also the end of their friendship as you

(37:25):
guys know it?

Speaker 4 (37:26):
No, because Cynthia has a big, forgiving heart and if
she'll always be open to having a excuse me a
conversation to find resolve with Kenya. That's how Cynthia gets down.
And Cynthia didn't even do nothing to Kenya.

Speaker 5 (37:39):
She just didn't do it. Kenya probably wanted her to do.

Speaker 4 (37:42):
And when you're friends with someone and you don't feel
like your friends are supporting you, anybody can't understand somebody
taking umbrage with someone else because of that.

Speaker 5 (37:50):
You can get that, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (37:51):
But I know Cynthia will be open to talk and
if Kenya softens her heart to the situation, hopefully they'll
find resolves.

Speaker 5 (37:57):
So I definitely don't think it's the end of their
friend ship.

Speaker 4 (38:00):
And we'll see if she's talking a portion now, Because
Porsche did sit on that stage and said the same
goddamn thing Cynthia said to Kenya's face. Porscha said it
on that stage. I was she right, I said, I
was even pissed with Kenya for doing it. Then she said,
but Kenya's you know, feels bad about doing what she did.
Let's see if Kenya stops talking a portion now, you

(38:22):
know what I mean? She said the same thing so well,
so you know, Dasin, I shouldn't know this, but Kenya
and Porsche ran into.

Speaker 1 (38:32):
Each other backstage as Shakira's constant in Atlanta, and according
to my sources, they did not speak to each other.

Speaker 5 (38:40):
Oh bad.

Speaker 4 (38:42):
Well, hey, you know, I guess Kenya's pissed off. Of
course Keny is pissed off.

Speaker 3 (38:48):
And then Porscha was very close to Britt after that,
so I'm sure she's probably like, man, everybody.

Speaker 5 (38:52):
That I think everybody's an ops, right.

Speaker 3 (38:55):
Honestly, I think that Kenya and Porsche's friendship was already very,
very fragile after Ultimate Girl's Trip anyways, Honestly, being real,
I don't think they were ever back where they were
after that, so it really wasn't gonna take that much
to drive a deeper wedge. So I'm sad about it,

(39:15):
especially kind of not in the middle of them, but
in a way, you know, it's like I want them to, like,
of course, get along and be cool. I'm never gonna
you know, a team pretty you know what I'm saying,
Like I miss that, and I know for years they
like definitely had each other's back on that show, and
I hate that. I think that's where the real demise
of their friendship started. And then this kind of put
a period on it. I agree with you, Dustin. Cynthia

(39:37):
is always open to like kind of sit down people.
I mean, she's friends with people that were really terrible
to her before and she's gone past that. I think
with Kenya she will too, and it's gonna take her
more time because she probably feels more of the pressure.
Like right now, everyone's loving Cynthia. There's no negative, there's
no shots coming to Cynthia. She's in a good place.
She's happy her relationship or life. Kenya, she's got kicked

(39:59):
off the show that she was a part of her
main source of income, you know, hearing and then having
to sit on the sidelines and hear all the things
that and having no platform the same thing back, So
she's probably a more comfortable place like, oh, I'll give
you more time, But I honestly don't think it'll ever
be as good as it was before. I really don't. Sadly,
they can be cool, but I don't think it's gonna

(40:20):
be like what it was.

Speaker 1 (40:21):
Do you guys think based on them reading on Andy
reading Kenya's tweet that there's room for her to come
back to the.

Speaker 4 (40:29):
Show, one percent they would never have read verbatim that
tweet where Kenya literally says, I look forward to seeing
you all back on Bravos soon. They would have never
read that and allowed it to air if she wasn't
coming back. Kenya will be back next season, and great
because it's gonna make for a good show. Portion Shami,
You're gonna fight like cats and dogs all season. Kenya

(40:50):
is gonna be spraying the whole cast because she's pissed off.
It'll be a great season for us. We will be entertained,
so she needs. Kenya will finally have her say, which
is something that we just haven't seen yet, so hell yeah,
and I welcome it. And Kenya is a person who
see At that reunion, although Fedra grazed over an apology

(41:11):
to smir right, I do apologize, I don't if I
you know, it was all of that kind of energy
that that was a moment where I did miss Kenya
because Kenya would have gotten way deeper into that. And
I'm sure she'll do that next season. Since Faeder has
a guaranteed contract it, she'll be back. So it'll be
interesting to see Kenya back in the mix. Our one
hundred percent believe she's coming back.

Speaker 3 (41:33):
Yes, reunion needed Kenya, And honestly, if it had Kenya
and Burt on there, all all of them, it would
have been a really really great It would have been
like it would have been sitting there saying that a
little bit that Portia didn't do was so amazing. I mean,
it was better than anybody else, but it wasn't that
big of a deal like in past reunions where there
was an epic one liner or moment. It was like, okay,

(41:53):
you know, all right, but it wasn't like epic where
we know the show can go. And I do think
Porsia needs the heavy hitters around her to actually even
look better, you know what I mean, It would be better.
It would have elevated everybody, I think, to have them
all on there. I think it's a huge mistake of thing.
Don't bring Kenya back, you know. And I don't like
this is the second time that she hasn't had to
be able to be there, Like after she got married

(42:16):
and she was fired, she didn't share the wedding. I
think that was really fucked up to like not have
her on to like this, you know, talk whatever, like
to just get rid of her. So I could see
her being very frustrated, like goddamn, I can never like
Sae my side, and then she's gotta listen. She had
to sit there while we're all running our mouths by her.
I mean, she's got our YouTube channel now, but I
could see that making you a little more salty.

Speaker 1 (42:41):
One of the things that was addressed in this reunion
two was this sort of like friendly competition between Shemia
and Drew based on their singing career. They showed a
few clips of Shemia, you know, throw a little bit
shade about Drew's career. She did congratulate her on it.

(43:02):
The album is great, by the way, and this is listen.
This is free promo. I'm I paid to do this.
I'm being very honest when I say this, second to
Coco Jones album Why Not More Juice of Dorris I
did it to me is the best R and B
album out today. It's it and that's front to back.

(43:23):
I listened to it front to back. It's an amazing
R and B album, second to Coco Jones Why Not
More So? Its Claudia does anything. I was shocked, and
that's no shade to drink and dupising. But sometimes when
a reality started not that Drew as well. She's an

(43:44):
actress and she's been in the game for many, many years.
But sometimes when the album comes out, you're like, that
album is solid, that it's it's, it's, it's it's a
great album.

Speaker 2 (43:55):
I did it to me.

Speaker 1 (43:55):
It's the best song on the album, and and the
gag is Dennis Roade it.

Speaker 2 (43:59):
But I like rest.

Speaker 1 (44:01):
There's been this big conversation on Twitter about this Judah
liber bag that yes, Claudia, because Claudia clocked it last
week when she said I feel like Drew, so Dora
would have more stance.

Speaker 2 (44:16):
If some of you guys thought she was a fashion girl.

Speaker 1 (44:18):
And because you'll don't think she's a fashion girl, y'all
read her.

Speaker 2 (44:23):
Shamia said that Drew is fake.

Speaker 1 (44:26):
When Drew say that, and I got five on it
that she could speak five languages, Mea said that was
a lie. And then Drew brought a prop a book
and said I can speak five different love languages. And
then it was a conversation about the Judah liber bag.
SMA said was fake, Drew said it wasn't. Today Drew

(44:47):
Sidora posted a receipt claiming that it was real. Drew
Shumia then posted on her stories double downing on that
was fake, and then Aodia Dustin not should you know this?
I know, but the Judah Leeber confirmed herself that Juseph
thier bag is.

Speaker 4 (45:09):
Real yep, and the Instagram comments. My thing is, I
don't give a fuck, you know what I'm saying. I
think of all the shit that we could be discussing
on this reunion stage, who gives I don't care about
that bullshit and all the shit that Drew has lied
about on this damn show, that's.

Speaker 5 (45:27):
What we're gonna highlight, you know what I'm saying. It
just felt like we was wasting time for me, you
know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (45:32):
I thought it was interesting and dope that Judas Leeber's
account commented, you know that kind of stuff makes it
exciting for us the fans to watch.

Speaker 5 (45:41):
But I don't give a damn about that.

Speaker 4 (45:42):
That was so stupid to me that we were taking
up time with that, and that that's the that And
even if she had lied about that, of all the
things that she's already lied about on the show, I
don't think it would be something that would kind of
shift the needle for people, you know what I'm saying,
it just would be another stupid ass lie this dig
into the bottom of that. Let's get to the bottom

(46:02):
of some of the real shit that's going on. You
know what I'm saying, Why y'all mamas don't like each other?
What is it? What's the real deal? You know what
I'm saying, Let's get candy on the stage and let's
dig all the way to the bottom of this ship. Like,
let's really wake it up if we're gonna do if
we're gonna do all of that. So I thought that
Judith liber bag situation, it just y'all know me very well.
We friends, y'all know the kind of stuff that I
just don't have the patience for. And that was one

(46:25):
of those things, like I don't give a fuck about
that damn Martini glass purse.

Speaker 5 (46:29):
I don't care, you know what I'm saying. That's it?

Speaker 6 (46:32):
So sorry, Jordan, do you own a Judah liber Martini person?

Speaker 3 (46:43):
Plonia, Jordan, can you get out on the fashion of
a website? Because if not, no, I don't you know,
I don't give a damn but none of that ship.
So I don't know if it's a real offc I
never heard the designer before y'all just mentioned just now,
So I have no dog in this race. I will
say this, And I like both these ladies, so I
was like, sorry, Shamiyah, but you lost this one. I

(47:06):
think that Shamia is in a free fall right now,
a little uncomfortable, and she's just trying to get a
win with somebody, you know what I'm saying, Like, all right,
let me just show you and read her down, and
it's not really coming across like she wanted to. And
I just think that the Drew and Shamia beef is
his husband silly to me from day one, I think
that Drew should not be your focus, Shamia at all.

(47:28):
I think that y'all should have actually more in common
than not, you know what I mean, Like y'all could
have really possied up on that music thing and partened
up and done some things, and I could have been
a keupe storyline to see though, you know, oh the
more experienced person music, Drew kind of taken Sami under
her wing and they could have formed an organic friendship
that way instead of it being this tip the tat
these little there's not enough of a history there for

(47:50):
it to be all this like these barbs you know
what I mean, these like and I mean, Barb isn't
like Spikes being gone. You got to clarify nowadays because
people go crazy, all right, Yeah, And I just was like,
I think Sami is just like she feels the heat
now with her story and what's happening. So she's just
trying to get an easy kill. And I think she

(48:12):
thought that being needs to kill with drill and it
didn't really work out.

Speaker 4 (48:15):
I also think that Shamia is playing to the fans
a little bit when it comes to that, trying, like
you said, looking for a gotcha moment in that way.
And Shamia is so dope of a person. She literally
does not have to do that. All she has to
do is just be on the show and live the
life that she lives. I saw she posted on Instagram
that she took like all the little kids in her family.

(48:37):
Kelly's twins were with her as well. They all went
to Orlando for this annual trip that she does. You know,
that's that's the shit that we want. If you got
to cut somebody out along the way, do that, you
know what I mean. But I think there's still an
opportunity there for Shamiir to really shine and get her
just do as a housewife. And this is her first
season to be fair too, you know what I mean,

(48:59):
as a full time housewife. So I think that next
season she'll be a little bit more comfortable and on
camera and more comfortable knowing that she's getting critiqued and
picked apart by the audience in a way that's new
for her.

Speaker 5 (49:12):
I think that we'll get it.

Speaker 4 (49:13):
I hope we'll get a different performance because I still
think all the pieces are there for her to make
sense as a great housewife on this show.

Speaker 3 (49:21):
So and don't you think like maybe like some of
the girls, and I think for me, is not the
only one that's doing this or has done this. Like
when you're first there on the show, you're kind of
finding your way and you're not, and you're a mix
between who you are and also changing and catering your
behavior a little bit based on what social media is

(49:42):
saying or what you know. You have a lot of
people here and you're not a lot of times like
that takes away from your authenticity. And that's what makes
fans sound like you, because they're like, wait, but if
you just stand on business, whether you right or wrong,
and just like I'm doing it the way I think
you get you look more consistent and more solid, so
on that kind of flip flop that kind of goes
with the win or just changes up like or these

(50:04):
little be square We're like, wait, what's the what's the
history of that right there? Is that just for a
scene or do you really have deep feelings against that person?

Speaker 1 (50:14):
And breaks me to this question that one of the
rain Drops shout out to share it in on Twitter,
post this question, and I wanted to bring.

Speaker 2 (50:22):
It to you guys.

Speaker 1 (50:24):
I've been seeing a lot of a lot of this
for the past couple of weeks, and I felt that
today was the time to bring it up based on
everything that happened this morning. Share In posts a question
on Twitter about should the downfall of Samia be studied
because she pointed out that Samiyah was the fan favorite
in the beginning of this season and then towards it

(50:47):
in she feels like the fans have turned on her.
Is that something you guys have seen and if so,
do you think Shamia started off this season on a
high and based on what we saw in the later
episodes that she did not live up to the hype.

Speaker 5 (51:03):
Let's speak. Never mind Claudia. Ladies first, you go first,
and then go ahead, Claudia.

Speaker 3 (51:09):
I mean yeah, I think that she came out the gate.
People like were like, wow, she's like remember we were
saying that she was like the star of the show
and the show was gonna be centered around her. We
were raving about our house or a lifestyle or husband
or wealth. We were like, damn. Even Cynthia was like,
oh my God, like, look at this place. Is it
like it was this Shamiah Shamia Shamia Shmia. To her detriment,

(51:31):
sometimes maybe we set the bar high or the bar
was set high. And then throughout the episodes, I think
some mistakes. I think one of her main mistakes was
kind of coming for Drew when we didn't really see
a reason for that, right, and then the kind of
being porstious accomplice with that meeting with Dennis. That was
another way like.

Speaker 2 (51:51):
Uh, I think not to cut you off.

Speaker 1 (51:55):
I think that was the beginning of people questioning a
little bit.

Speaker 2 (52:00):
I think I think she Miia having that meeting with
Ralph definitely, Oh.

Speaker 3 (52:07):
Ralph, I'm sorry, Ralph.

Speaker 2 (52:09):
He said, Then I know, I don't know I got
your sister.

Speaker 1 (52:12):
I definitely think that was sort of the eye the
side eye that people saw.

Speaker 3 (52:17):
We'll go ahead, and then she could never really recover.
Then it was like another mistake, and you know, another
thing after the next, and you know, it's funny how
some of the ones that were so strong in the
beginning ended up being not as like in the end,
and then some that were under the radar, like you know, Angela,
we didn't really we weren't really tripping on her like
that in the beginning, and then look how she's been
like since. I think she's been offer running since episode

(52:40):
three four, like just NonStop with basically like maybe one
mistake towards the end. Right, that's pretty much all I
can really think of. So, yeah, and the sixteen episodes,
that's a long season. Things had turned you know, you
write people the wrong way. But yeah, she she had
a couple of things and so and it's also we're
also missing major pieces of the story. Kenya wasn't there

(53:02):
to finish, and neither was Brent, so a lot of
things were kind of just rigged together kind of bubblegum,
and we're not getting the complete like there's still so
we're allowed to forge your own opinions and fill in
the blank that may or may not be fair of Samiah.
I mean, I don't know.

Speaker 5 (53:19):
Let's let's let's let's call it what it is. Right.

Speaker 4 (53:21):
First of all, much love to share it and shout
out to all the rain drops. Right, but there has
been no downfall of Shemiah. Okay, watch the damn show
and just say damn. I like Shemia in the beginning,
but I don't agree with what she did in this episode.
There's no downfall of Shemiah that needs to be studied.
We could stop with the dramatic shit right. Second of all,

(53:42):
we haven't seen Shemiah in the full context of her personality.
I think that as a viewing audience, we made assumptions
about her because of her proximity to Porsche, her assumed
proximity to Porsche.

Speaker 5 (53:55):
Right.

Speaker 4 (53:55):
If this girl, this woman is coming on the show
saying that she's Portioned's best, we assume that they have
similar interests. They're both you know, very forward, you know,
type A personalities whatever, like, that's what we assume. Well,
when we got to know Smia this season, we find
out she's not those things. She's a preacher's kid, you know.
What I'm saying. She comes from a family that had

(54:17):
means and was well off. She had a brand new
bread convertible when she was sixteen, you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (54:22):
So her.

Speaker 5 (54:24):
The access that she chooses.

Speaker 4 (54:27):
To grind, you know what I'm saying, are not those
that we might choose. And so her taking issue with
her passing that story about Drew saying that she was
gonna pay for Pj's college, you know what I'm saying,
and that becoming a thing, or her saying that bridge
says something about her daughter, and that becoming a thing.

(54:48):
These are things that seem that are made to appear
larger than they actually are sometimes and it just reflects
a lack of certain life experiences and SHEMI is just
not the person that we thought that she was. Not
in a bad way, it's just down that we're getting
to know her. At least for me, I'm like, Oh,
she's different than what I thought she was, you know.
And she's not as much of an aggressive personality or

(55:12):
somebody who can really get into paint like that, right
because she doesn't come from that sort of situation. She's
a she's been a kind of sheltered a little bit
almost when she was growing up. Yeah, she outside in Atlanta,
but she grew up there and she knows a lot
of the right people and shit. So I think we
just made some assumptions that we're finding out are not true.
And for some of the viewers, they're translating that to

(55:34):
we don't like Shamiah no more, you know what I'm saying.
But I think we're just getting to know who she
really is, and that's just what it is.

Speaker 3 (55:41):
See y'all think she'll be a her housewife and have
a better chance making her own mark. I think this
break up with Porsche, although it's sad because you know
they were good friends. They were friends for a long time, right,
whether best friends or not. But once she gets up
from under the Porscha's shadow and the Porsche narrative and
she could stand on her own, maybe we'll get a

(56:03):
clearer idea of her outside of a friendship like I
would hate to just for the rest of my life.
I'm always tied to a friend I hang with, Like,
you know, stand on your own, what's your storyline? Not
like doing any of the work or the carrying of
bones for Portsche or any of that. And if she's
back for next season. I think that would be better
for her and probably for Porsche. Cut the type. It's

(56:24):
if you're not gonna be real friends and don't even
take this thing because.

Speaker 2 (56:28):
Well, I think it's a problem.

Speaker 1 (56:30):
I think the problem to what you're saying, Claudia, and
I'm agreeing with you. I think the problem is this
no one is having real conversations on camera because they're
having off camera, and that will be the destruction of
what is now an amazing reboot of this show. My
advice to all of those girls is stop having this
off camera conversation. It's it's it's going to be the

(56:51):
detriment of you being on the show and the detriment
of the show.

Speaker 2 (56:55):
I agree with everything Claudia said.

Speaker 1 (56:57):
I think what I would love to hear it's a
real conversation the way Nimi and Cynthia had it. When
Cynthia said, people think I'm weak because of your personality
as related to you calling my husband a bitch. That
affected me, That offended me. I feel like I have
no voice in our friendship. These are things that are relatable.

(57:21):
Every friend group, and we sevex weeks ago, every single
friend group has the outspoken person, the leader of the
Queen Bee whatever they want to give them, And I
would love to hear that conversation happened between those two.
I think Shemiah is a great housewife. I think Shemiah
rookie season should be studied in the sense of you

(57:44):
have to do what feels natural for you. Because when
you think about a Candy Burris, the reason why Candy
Burris had a long career on the show is because
she wasn't known to be the best reader or the
best shade assassin, but she was known to just always

(58:04):
be herself in every situation and the audience enjoy that.
And my advice to this cast is and I think
Kelly Kelly, who I I'm obsessed with Kelly. I think
Kelly learned her lesson by defending Brent every chance she got. Yes,
great friend, but look what I got you in the end,

(58:25):
do you know what I mean? And I think these
alligances ruined shows, right and I and and that's what's
going to have to be And it's the reason why
for me the future of the next season when it
comes to this current cast, who look, I think they
all should come back. As my opinion, I want them
I want them all to come back next season, right.

Speaker 2 (58:48):
And and of course Kenya summer more.

Speaker 1 (58:51):
But listen, I want to see should me in port
to talk. I want to see me a portion of
favor to talk. I want to see portion and Fas talk.
I want to see Kenya and Cynthia talk. I think
what we're being robbed of is these women having an
amazing social media beef. Because let's be clear, I will

(59:15):
type all day based on what happened this moment.

Speaker 4 (59:18):
But button this morning Porscha pushed the mother for she said, yeah,
this morning, this was me.

Speaker 2 (59:26):
In our group chat.

Speaker 1 (59:28):
Right, but imagine imagine if all of this happened on
the show.

Speaker 2 (59:36):
So that that that's that's my thing to that one thing.

Speaker 1 (59:39):
I do want to get up before because Claudia, Claudia
is looking at.

Speaker 2 (59:43):
Is we have it for a short time, but.

Speaker 1 (59:47):
Get me while you can, Dustin, I know this is
the vein of your existence when it comes to the show.

Speaker 2 (59:53):
But obviously June Bug.

Speaker 1 (59:58):
Was the star of the reunion as well, and Angela
who who Still I don't care what y'll say about
angel Oakley. Angela still passed the crown for the MVP
of the season. Rookie of the Year. She had receipts
about Phaedrus's brother allegedly being friends with this guy going

(01:00:21):
to school with them. Phaedra got Porscha's phone and contacted
the brother and then he said, I know this person
is the whole thing. Unfortunately fell flat for me. But
Dustin is your favorite topic of the evening, so I
would love to get your opinion on Phaedri calling her
brother the brother Denying it, Angela doubled downing on it.

(01:00:46):
Angy Cohen said her contract insecure, she didn't need to
do this.

Speaker 2 (01:00:50):
What do you think.

Speaker 4 (01:00:52):
I think that it would be very hard for me
to have a serious conversation with Faeder about anything with
that shit on it head at the reunion, So it
would have been hard for me to take her serious
with them things clinging and clacking off the side and shit,
it was all distracting.

Speaker 5 (01:01:09):
It was difficult for me.

Speaker 4 (01:01:11):
On top of that, my brother would have said the
same damn things, just like I would have said the
same thing if he called me with some You know
what I'm saying. So I don't understand what that was
supposed to prove, nor do I care, Angela. If Charles
is she knowing you, and you want to stay good
for y'all because y'all obviously got your thing going together.
If Fader did it, fine, that ain't the first lie

(01:01:34):
she told. Y'all don't care that she lies and start shit.
So here we are. I'm just ready to move on.
I don't want to hear about that boy, that bug,
that restaurant, that woman. I don't want to hear about
none of it no more. I'm ready to move on. Okay.
So that's how I feel about it. You know, now

(01:01:56):
y'all can tell me that's where I'm at with it.

Speaker 3 (01:02:02):
First of all, petty moment alert, I too could not
take for sure, I mean not fortunate phator seriously with
that thing. And do you remember that movie There was
a dragon in a movie called The Never Ending Story. Yes,
it looked like like the thing. Imagine arguing with that

(01:02:34):
on the reunion. Just that's the jewelry, the ears of
the Jewish.

Speaker 4 (01:02:55):
And then it was getting stuck, like when she would
be talking and gesturing and ship, it would get stuck.
One half of the thing would be like right here.
It was just a lot. It was difficult, you know
what I'm saying, to focus. I know, I would be like,
you gonna have to take that off. You got to
take that thing off, whatever that is, whatever you mean.
I can't and just.

Speaker 3 (01:03:15):
Take the movie the never ending story. It's the never
ending liar. So the thing is with this story, it
does sound fishy, and I love Angela and I hate
to go against Angela and be pro team Pager, So I'm.

Speaker 2 (01:03:28):
Not going to do that.

Speaker 3 (01:03:29):
But and y'all give me be mad, be mad the comments,
get now, the never.

Speaker 2 (01:03:54):
To I don't do that, but I do it anyway,
get to me.

Speaker 3 (01:04:01):
I'm very honest. I stand in my truth.

Speaker 5 (01:04:04):
Yea.

Speaker 3 (01:04:04):
So the thing is that it's like the boy that
cry wolf right, because she's lied so many times. All
my babies do next week? Nos do it eight months? Oh, Paul,
I had nothing to do with the angel saying thing
all the lies. So maybe this time she is telling
the truth. It's hard to believe her, right, And because

(01:04:25):
Angela has told the truth so much that I think
that's kind of why we're a little bit willing to
be like, Nah, maybe she might have maybe a little
collaborated or a little bit of crafting going on, But
it's like I like to look at patterns and you
know your past behavior. I mean, can you change yes?
But ay, she might be telling you, but I ain't

(01:04:47):
gonna lie. My petty side is fun to just be like, nah,
we don't believe you because she's lied so much. She's
lied so much, and then unfortunately, I don't know what
it is about this network, but for some reason, they
don't all the way holds her ever to a standard
of like, they don't really ever hold her accountable. She
gets away with so much, and I think that's what's

(01:05:08):
frustrating to some of us. I think it'd be a
lot easier to rock with some of the things that
Padra says and like her more if just give us
once or twice where she actually gets held accountable. She
came on the show gunning hard for angel Oh Shaney
towards the marriage, so it's like, we're like, girl, but

(01:05:28):
you just got here, Like why are you fussing with
this lady? Like we like her now, okay, we like her,
And it's just I think that's I think that's what
my issue is. And I'm gonna go and admit to
my issue with her. So many times it's like you
seen Donald Trump get away with so much then he
might do one thing where it's like kind of eye
or accimately like I'm good fuck because you're gonna lie

(01:05:48):
for for six months or six years or whatever. So
it's kind of like hard to come around to the
idea that you could possibly be telling the truth. Now
it does sound Fakegan God, something sound Take the june
bug when they saidjum bug, I'm like, oh, you got
to say something like Tony or Jason or David just
any june bug is like.

Speaker 2 (01:06:09):
Something bad.

Speaker 4 (01:06:12):
Because this is I need to relax after seeing this
stupid ass ship. It was just dumb, right, Claudia, the
jud ship just stupid.

Speaker 3 (01:06:21):
And then the Mark the thing with I, I really
don't know because it's hard for me. It's I'm programmed. Now,
it's hard for me to believe that Phagier would be
telling the truth. She doesn't tell the truth, just like
her silence didn't tell the truth. And said that was
a good look. And that's all I got to say
about that. Be mad if you want to. I don't care.

(01:06:42):
I mean, I'm used to people being mad at me.
Someone make that side by side though, when you get
a chance.

Speaker 1 (01:06:52):
Anyway, Okay, what's that dragon's names?

Speaker 3 (01:07:02):
Anybody knows the chat.

Speaker 2 (01:07:03):
The Dragon moved off from the Dragon Baby.

Speaker 1 (01:07:07):
Giraffic parking gull child, Yeah, buddy. So to wrap things up,
the the Reunion did in on Shamia and Porsche as
they are about to get into it about their mothers.
So we will see what happens next week. Based on
the poll that I had done on Twitter Claudia and

(01:07:32):
Dustin about whose side are people are when it comes
to Shamia and Porsche.

Speaker 2 (01:07:40):
The results are in over six hundred and fifty people voted.

Speaker 5 (01:07:47):
Relatively close. You know what I'm saying. People are split.

Speaker 4 (01:07:52):
They signed with Porsche after them them damning Instagram slide
she put out this morning for people are split.

Speaker 3 (01:08:01):
And I think and I don't think Shmida's doing herself
any favors. She couldn't. She couldn't get it out. She
could not get it out. We could not even like
we were like we it was. I hope she comes
with Mara on part three. If not, she's just gonna
get ran over, you know what I mean. I feel
that she's frustrated, like she's like frush, you know, when
you like can't get something tonight like.

Speaker 4 (01:08:20):
Hm, Well, she said to Claudia remember when she went
when they went on break, Claudia and Carlos. When they
went on break and she went into Kelly's dressing room.
The first thing she said when she went in there
on that scene was everybody, I'm trying to be nice,
and everybody's chiming in. There's a lot of stuff I
want to chime in on too. Toma said that in
Kelly's dressing room, so that there was some things I

(01:08:40):
guess there were some things rather that she wasn't saying
saying that she wanted to say on the stage. Now,
I don't know why, because if I were to hit
that stage.

Speaker 2 (01:08:51):
That's why you're there.

Speaker 5 (01:08:52):
Yeah, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (01:08:55):
But interrupt each other a reunion speak now for one
hundred piece. Claudia's right, you think I'm gonna get it
later and you forget about it. You don't get to it.

Speaker 2 (01:09:02):
Next thing.

Speaker 1 (01:09:02):
You know, the regumits up with so say when you
mean it. But Part three it's airing next week. Thank
you rain Drops for a stepic in early, See you
next Monday. Reality with the King is executive produced by
me Carlos King, produced by Lizzie Mimetz and a partnership.

Speaker 2 (01:09:26):
With the Lack Effect Network.

Speaker 1 (01:09:29):
You can also find us on my YouTube channel at
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