Chan-Tell Us Anything: BBW & LAMH Recap

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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Reality with the King is hosted by me, Carlos King.
I'm an executive producer who have produced some of your
favorite shows from the Real Housewives in Atlanta, New Jersey
and my own creation, The Love and Marriage Franchise and
Bell Collective. Every episode we recap reality television from the
Real Housewives Franchise to The Bachelor or Selling Sunset, in

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addition to celebrity guests, whether in the unscripted space or
scripted as well. I want to start off by saying this,
it is a privilege to be in this seat to
where I have created a safe space for In the beginning,
it was just reality stars, but courtesy of the.

Speaker 2 (00:50):
Platform being huge, thanks to each and every one.

Speaker 1 (00:54):
Of you who are on this live all the rain
drops for leaving and sharing it. And so a woman
who works for me, her hairdresser this morning, was talking
about the Chantell Christy interview. So I don't take any
of this for granted. It is a privilege to be

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in this position, and it's such a privilege, more so
when you have reality stars and celebrities reached out to
you to say I would like to give you thank you,
I would like to give you my interview I want
to give it to you, and I want to give
it to you because you're able to have a conversation

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without attacking somebody, and that means the world to me. Right,
And I thank all of you guys for supporting Reality
but the King, for supporting my channel, and for supporting
the interview, the interview. Excuse me by even watching it,
whether or not you walked away from the interview disliking

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chantell More or understanding her more, What Maden is to
me is that you guys spent.

Speaker 2 (02:04):
Time to check it out.

Speaker 1 (02:06):
And what maddens to me is the fact that you
guys had time to leave a comment. We have ten
thousand comments in an interview that dropped four days ago.
We have close to three hundred thousand views in four days,
which is like Nini leaks, Lisa Ray McCoy level numbers

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that has happened in that magnitude. So I thank all
of you for checking it out, for checking it out
because you did not have to.

Speaker 2 (02:34):
What I would like to address is this.

Speaker 1 (02:37):
A lot of you guys have had a lot of
comments saying, well, Carlos, we don't feel like you held
Chantel Christy accountable. I hear you I see you, and
I want to start the live talking about this.

Speaker 2 (02:51):
Let's bring on Claudia in Toxtin.

Speaker 3 (02:57):
So Carlos. Then people wanted to hear them. People wanted
to hear Shantel Christie say I should not have touched
my mother, I should not have talked to my mama
like that and I was wrong, and they did not
hear her say that, and that's where the disconnect was. Now,
I'm not gonna say she's supposed to say that. I'm

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not gonna say she was not supposed to say that.
I just think that's where the disconnect was for a
lot of people. But I think it's something really likable
about her personality. And I really hate that a lot
of our introduction to her was her cussing her mama
out and physically, you know, pushing on her mama. I
hate that that's how we met her, but that's what happened.

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But shout out to her for being brave enough she
took this. She was a good sport, I think, and
she's taking it he will. And I thought she gave
a great interview, So it was good to see that.
But that's about it for me.

Speaker 2 (03:54):
Yeah, what was so.

Speaker 1 (03:55):
I'm going to get to you, to say, Claudia, but
Dustin the best part to me was this, and this
is the reason why I love what we do.

Speaker 2 (04:03):
Honestly.

Speaker 1 (04:04):
I love the fact that Chantelle reached out to me
after watching Me and Dustin recap that episode. Yeah, like
it did not steer her in a direction of they
don't fucking me. It was the fact that she watched
me and Dustin. Me and Dustin had two different views

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on the actual moment, and it was nice that she
still said I.

Speaker 2 (04:36):
Saw you when you watched it. She gave us a
shot off through time. She said. I know Dustin said
I disrespect the black Hold, but to me, it's this.

Speaker 1 (04:45):
I want to bring that up to say that what
I love about this platform is the fact that all
three of us can be.

Speaker 2 (04:52):
Honest with our feelings.

Speaker 1 (04:54):
And it may not be the most popular take, but
it's more so about the people that I can say,
although I disagree with him, I appreciate and understand his take.
So I want to give Dustin props too, because Chantelle,
if you watch an interview, Dustin gave his out of

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to god Troup and even Chantelle said, I actually see
Dustin's point of view.

Speaker 2 (05:20):
And that's all we can do.

Speaker 3 (05:21):
Yeah, I wasn't trying to disrespect her. You know what
I'm saying. That's a very sensitive, very personal matter between
a mama and a daughter, you know what I'm saying.
So even as a person offering commentary, there's a line there,
you know what I'm saying that you just don't cross.
I wasn't trying to disrespect her. I was just offering
commentary on what we saw, you know what I'm saying

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on the screen. So I'm glad she was able to
receive it well, and it feel good to see her
have her say I think you are a perfect sounding
board for her. So fuck with them. People had to say, Carlos, No,
I'm good, I have.

Speaker 4 (05:55):
A new mike.

Speaker 5 (05:56):
I don't know if people said someone said my side
saying I'm gonna tend can let me know if this
mic is better or worse, and I will one day
get it right after twenty years in the business.

Speaker 4 (06:04):
Okay. So I did see a lot of people.

Speaker 5 (06:06):
Saying, you know, holds her. I know I've given Jenckie.
Carlos didn't hold her accountable. They wanted more accountability more.
I did take notes as a journalists Okay, I did
take notes.

Speaker 4 (06:19):
I didn't see what she did say.

Speaker 5 (06:20):
I think in her way she gave her accountability, but
it's not what the masses want. And I think a
lot of times with reality television, and you know it
was commentary, it's almost like the movie Gladiators, like we
want to see blood, we want to see them gravel,
we want to see them crying, snotty nose.

Speaker 4 (06:37):
I'm so sorry, and everyone's not wired like that.

Speaker 5 (06:40):
For some people, it's like they struggled with saying I
was wrong, and I didn't see in her notes that
she did say that she was wrong, and she said,
I don't want to blame it on my post part
of I was nine months out.

Speaker 4 (06:52):
It's still no excuse for my behavior.

Speaker 5 (06:56):
I feel like because she didn't spend the majority of
the interview, like people want to see blood.

Speaker 4 (07:01):
When we're mad at someone, we don't just like giving
them a.

Speaker 5 (07:03):
Pass, Like we don't just like, well, she said sorry,
we'd be like no if that. We want to see
her breakdown. We want to see her apologize the way
we want to see her apologize.

Speaker 4 (07:13):
Oh, we want to see her taking now could she
have taken more? Of course?

Speaker 5 (07:17):
Could she have taken less, of course, and could Carlos
have been hard on her, of course, but definitely want
to have a safe space for other guests to come forward. Yes,
And it's a very tricky game and a dance we
have to play in these types of shows when we
are intubate people and we want more people to come
to our platforms.

Speaker 4 (07:35):
It's not like the days of Howard.

Speaker 5 (07:36):
Stern when you went in there knowing you go into
the lions, then they about to writ me a new
one that's not even.

Speaker 4 (07:41):
Carlo says vibe.

Speaker 5 (07:42):
Carlos is not that type of interview or he is
the one that lots of people What do they mostly
say about Carlos King's interviews. I didn't like this person,
but I came away from this interview liking the person more.
You'll never get those kind of interviews. If he just
goes to the drug that there's other people that can
do that. And if that's too want, then that's not
calls this platform. You should go somewhere else. I think

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you need a faith where you know his job is
to be objective, and he does give his opinion several times,
but like I just feel like people want blood. Sometimes
I get and I'm not. That does not mean she's right.
But his job is to provide a place to be
interviewed to us, for us to view into what she's thinking,
not for us to put on her what we think.

Speaker 2 (08:25):
Hello, you know, so that's yeah, I'm sorry, go Claudia.

Speaker 5 (08:30):
Oh I'm saying that's just what an interview was. And
I don't know, I just feel like I get what
you're doing.

Speaker 4 (08:37):
I get it.

Speaker 6 (08:38):
Well.

Speaker 1 (08:38):
Well, the beauty of you, Claudia is you're the I
figure the only person I interview twice on my podcast,
and everything you said is true because of your experience
stepping into my college, after your experience on TGIF, and
I was the first person to interview you. Claudia has

(09:01):
other people. She's gonna talk it to us well, I
mean spocking to us well. But I also think this
it's one of those things.

Speaker 2 (09:07):
Where it's the beauty of journalism.

Speaker 1 (09:11):
And I know a lot of people have been grown
up in the days like we all have where you
had either have Oprah, you have Warbara Walters, or you
had Dying Sawyer and these were three very different style
of interviews. And that's the reason why I sat at
the top. I appreciate anybody who says yes and listen,
no shade. There are people who say no to me.

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There are people who's like, Okay, I did not think
I was gonna bring this up.

Speaker 2 (09:39):
I'm gonna bring it up, but whatever, I'll keep it cute.
What y'all don't know.

Speaker 1 (09:44):
Is somebody I was supposed to interview.

Speaker 2 (09:50):
Who said yes, said no after what after.

Speaker 1 (09:58):
Much thought and consideration, no, no, no no no no no
no no. The feedback was this, when you do a
Carlos King interview, you're you're naked meeting.

Speaker 2 (10:15):
I have to I have to answer you.

Speaker 1 (10:17):
Like they said, you have a way of getting the
truth out of people. And although I'm ready to do that,
I'm not ready to be naked right now.

Speaker 2 (10:26):
I'm not ready for it.

Speaker 7 (10:27):
So that's honest.

Speaker 1 (10:31):
So what the world doesn't know is this that happened.
This is a true story that happened the day before
Chantelle reached out to me.

Speaker 4 (10:39):
Are you at somebody?

Speaker 5 (10:41):
Yes?

Speaker 4 (10:43):
Who was it?

Speaker 2 (10:45):
Anyways?

Speaker 4 (10:46):
So, as a former journalist's supposed to.

Speaker 2 (10:56):
My point is this.

Speaker 1 (10:59):
When I got the DGM from Chantelle, y'all know I'm spiritual.

Speaker 2 (11:02):
So Claudia, wake up.

Speaker 8 (11:04):
When I got the dream from Chantel, I said to myself,
here's somebody who doesn't know me, star being enough to
have its tense conversation. It still said I only want to.

Speaker 2 (11:17):
Talk to you. So I sell that to say, it's
what you. Claudia does it and I do.

Speaker 1 (11:24):
All we can do is be ourselves and and hope
that people walk away even understanding us. More So, Listen,
I appreciate the fact that she reached out, and I
appreciate that for everybody who does say yes, because listen,
this is a tough business. There's a lot of podcasts,
there's a lot of people who do interviews, so I'm

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never I don't take for granted where someone says yes,
because it's not always guaranteed.

Speaker 5 (11:52):
I keep saying the seeing the accountability thing in the comments,
like they I would like to know, Like what more
did did did you?

Speaker 2 (11:59):
Did you think? I think I get it?

Speaker 1 (12:01):
Listen, Claudia, the reason why I was happy with the
way you eloquently spoke about it is I think people
want to blood.

Speaker 2 (12:09):
Let's have a real conversation. Guess what, I get it.

Speaker 1 (12:16):
We have never we have never in the history of
reality TV seeing a black mother and daughter have a
physical altercation. We've never seen it. We were all triggered
by it. We were all upset. We all were upset
about it, and I am we watch my recap of Dustin,
I said to Dustin, I said us.

Speaker 2 (12:38):
When I watched it, I got emotional.

Speaker 1 (12:41):
And I text Jackie because I know her, and I said,
I'm praying for y'all like this. I could not imagine
being a producer watching that on the phone.

Speaker 7 (12:50):
I just couldn't.

Speaker 2 (12:51):
A mother and a daughter.

Speaker 1 (12:53):
I understand, Claudia, that people are angry. I understand that
people want to blood. I understand that people.

Speaker 2 (12:59):
Claudia, you hit it.

Speaker 1 (13:00):
I think people wanted her to constantly say it and
say it and say it. And I appreciate those who
watched the full two hours.

Speaker 2 (13:17):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (13:19):
For those Hey, Dustin, No, a lot of people were
leaving negative comments after thirty.

Speaker 2 (13:24):
Minutes, so listen. I appreciate those. I love y'all.

Speaker 1 (13:30):
Like and Dustin hit it. Dustin said, she said it.
She said, I'm sorry, she said. I'm not making no excuses.
I did what I did, I said what I said.

Speaker 2 (13:38):
But here is.

Speaker 1 (13:39):
What was my experience leading up to it. And I
also want to say this, and and this is not
what no Ona's talking about. That I can because I'm producer,
and that Qualitia can because she is a reality star,
and that dust can stand because Dustin is a historian
of unscripted television. When you have somebody that has been

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on TV, that's okay. When you have somebody that's been
on TV for more than ten seasons, we all know
that there's certain people that got their faith. Their fans
love them, and they can do nothing wrong.

Speaker 2 (14:21):
There is this fan base. And this is what somebody
said to me over the weekend.

Speaker 1 (14:28):
They said, baby Jackie got fans, And I said, yes,
I think what you and I talk about. And Clauda,
you said this about Juice Dora. There's certain fans that
like the Vets or the Ogs. A new bee coming in.
Clauda experienced this. When a newbie comes in, you kind
of side more with the Ogs. And I think when

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it comes to this interview, I think at the end
of the day, we're all triggered by seeing what we saw.

Speaker 2 (14:54):
We've never seen it before, and we didn't grow up
that way.

Speaker 1 (14:56):
We grew up with don't talk back to your parents,
and I grew up that way too. I think that's
one side. I think the other side of the look,
Jackie is a legend. She's look, she's one of the
greatest reality he starts of all time. Justin eloquently saying
our recap, he said, yeah, this is the first time
about Jackie's side, and he's a fan of the show,
so I think a lot of that went into it too. Well, look,

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it's okay, nobody my thing is this the people of
the comments. None of y'all are wrong. It's y'all opinion,
just like Claudia, myself and Dustin aren't wrong when we
recap shows.

Speaker 3 (15:33):
No, but schan Tail was wrong for cussing her mama
out and for pushing there. I think people just wanted
to hear her say that more plainly than she said
it in the interview. The only takeaway, and we didn't
talk enough about this shit right on. The only takeaway
I have for the interview that I wish she would
have answered differently is when you asked her about the

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connect or she started speaking about, because I don't really
even think it was a question. But when she started
talking about her relationship with Denee and Brittany and she
started offering I guess what she thought was going to
substantiate their relationship. Well, we all got kids the same
as she used to date. This basketball it was just

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the thinnest you know what I'm saying thread to connect
them at all, and it did not help her case.
That is one area where I was like, Okay, come on, Chantale, Damn,
come on, Banna.

Speaker 7 (16:24):
Ain't there with Jackie.

Speaker 2 (16:27):
Come on, Dustin, please say daughter.

Speaker 3 (16:31):
Let me say my daughter. Okay, my daughter, me and
my daughter. Remember when they rolled up Andrea and Orlando
that time. You want to talk about my daughter?

Speaker 7 (16:40):
D O T T E R. That's Jackie. Now my daughter.
I'm gonna talk what about your daughter? They said she's
a beauty. Remember what she thought?

Speaker 4 (16:49):
It was gonna be hard?

Speaker 5 (16:50):
Like being objective here because I have not been watching
basketball wives, I'm going to start.

Speaker 4 (16:55):
Actually, when you have a relationship the daughter family, it's
so complex.

Speaker 5 (17:03):
It's not as limited to what we have seen in
a season or two or five or even ten like.
There's usually deep seated issues that are from ten years ago,
twenty years ago, thirty years ago.

Speaker 4 (17:13):
That are just unresolved things.

Speaker 5 (17:15):
And a lot of times you go on reality to
me without squashing those things, and they're gonna come out eventually,
So we could be mad and be like, oh my god,
I can't believe she disrespected her mom or whatever, But
then we don't know what other things she's still harping
on from years ago, not to say right, And this
is this hypothetical y'all before y'all say I'm taking her
side over Jackie, I'll let me some Jackie, okay, and

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vice versa. Jackie may have some unresolved things with her daughter,
and a lot of times, unfortunately, reality brings out the
worst parts of it. You know, if it's not squashed
before you go on, it's gonna come out on necklace
for a romantic relationships, friendships, you think you can go
on there and outs out produce yourselves, you won't. It's
gonna come out. And you know, I'm sure there's like many, many,

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many incidents both of them can name where they were
hurt by each other, and it's gonna come out. And
when we'd be like, heyn, why did go left like that? Well,
that wasn't just about that day or that week or
that month or that year. That was a lifetime of saints.

Speaker 4 (18:10):
Yeah, you know, And then Jackie is also very good.

Speaker 5 (18:13):
At reality, she knows what to do, which that would
It's very difficult when you're in a scene with someone
that knows what they're doing and you're not. You're gonna
look crazy no matter what. But at the end of
the day, also, fighting your mother on camera is the
net and your mom's y'all swinging, Like swinging on your
mom on camera or real life is nuts.

Speaker 3 (18:37):
I wanted Precious to fight her mama though. That's one
instance where I wanted to to fight them. I want
to po Mary Ass in that movie so bad as Precious.

Speaker 7 (18:46):
I want to get her man. That's what.

Speaker 1 (18:56):
Popeye's chicken at all. But all all just the side.
Thank y'all for watching it.

Speaker 2 (19:02):
I love you guys. I love the comments, all ten
thousand of them.

Speaker 6 (19:05):
Child.

Speaker 2 (19:05):
And if you haven't watched.

Speaker 1 (19:07):
A Chantel Christy interview, it is still up on my
YouTube channel, so make sure you watch it. Leave a comment.
I want to see what you got to say about it.
But all all jokes aside, thank y'all. And look, I'm
still praying for the healing of the Christies, like it's
I hope they can find some sort of resolve. This

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is reality with the King, and I'm Carlos King, Let's
get back into the show.

Speaker 2 (19:35):
It looks like there would not be a resolve when
it comes to Ken, Trisia, and Marquez.

Speaker 1 (19:41):
So let's get into the most recent episode of Love
and Marriage Huntsville. So, as you all know, we are
back celebrating season ten of Love and Marriage Huntsville, where
we are three episodes in and it's already started off
a little easy because of the dynamic between Ken, Tricia,

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and Marquez. So, for those who don't know, Ken and
Tricia are the newest cast members to Love in Mats Huntsville.
They're in a relationship. They live together. They're not married
because technically Tricia is still married to her high school
sweetheart Marquez.

Speaker 2 (20:24):
Until this let me be careful so not give things away.

Speaker 1 (20:30):
At the time of the episodes airing, they're still married. Okay,
they have two kids. Ken and Tricia live together with
her kids. Marquess is in and out of Marquess lives
in Atlanta. By the way, I saw Marquess over the weekend.

Speaker 7 (20:52):
M what y'all talk about?

Speaker 4 (20:58):
Where'd just them?

Speaker 1 (21:00):
I saw him out and about in Atlanta.

Speaker 2 (21:10):
No, you know what, you know what dust it, I'll
have Marquess tell y'all. Marquess will tell y'all what we
talked about. But what I will say is I was
happy to see him.

Speaker 1 (21:19):
And what I will say is this it's a very
complicated situation. What we saw in the premiere episode was
Marquess dropping off his daughter. He got into a verbal
altercation or spat rather with Tricia's friend Sharon.

Speaker 3 (21:35):
Yeah, go ahead, I mean, I just I didn't mean
it interject, but it just came in my head because
that was crazy. First of all, and I'm by no
means taking sides before anybody starts with that ship.

Speaker 7 (21:47):
I'm just talking about what we saw in the television. Right.
That lady was completely out of line.

Speaker 3 (21:52):
Okay, you only been friends with Tricia for four years,
that means you a new friend.

Speaker 7 (21:57):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (21:57):
Second of all, you don't have nothing to do with
none of this. So all that questioning and what does
she say when he walked in? She said something. She
started off by.

Speaker 4 (22:07):
Saying he came in with and it's like, well, did.

Speaker 7 (22:10):
You hear some Caudi or something like that? She said,
I'm like, you.

Speaker 3 (22:16):
Ain't even in this, you know what I'm saying, Like,
she needs to shut up. That's what she needs to do,
and she needs to stay out of it because it
don't have nothing to do with her. And she really
lit a flame, you know, pour gasoline on a flame.

Speaker 7 (22:29):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (22:29):
In that situation that's already tense, already completely fucked up,
needs so much work, needs so much help. And here
she come with a Cassie haircut talking about some uh
she was sure hair was shaved on the side, talking
about some uh uh, just having an opinion, you know
what I'm saying, on some shit that she didn't have

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no place speaking on.

Speaker 7 (22:51):
I did not like that.

Speaker 3 (22:52):
And Marquiz is a troll, Okay, a straight up troll,
and that triggered him in that way. And did hear
come the mess they could have gotten somewhere without her
ass And I just didn't understand why she was inserting
herself in that conversation.

Speaker 5 (23:07):
It's yes, because of the TV show and because people
trying to make their marks early on, because I feel
like in real life.

Speaker 4 (23:14):
No one would ever really do that.

Speaker 5 (23:15):
In real life, I think people have batteries in that back,
especially New reality folks, but people do definitely want to
show off liver. But like you, feel like you have
to make something happen instead of just letting the scene
letting might happen.

Speaker 4 (23:27):
I feel like she was like, well, let me just
be a little messy for the scene. That's one thing.

Speaker 5 (23:33):
Like she could just chills and let him pop off
first and then jump in. And I didn't think if
you've been friends zone before years, I mean, that's not
like you just became friends, that's enough time.

Speaker 2 (23:41):
To happen to you.

Speaker 4 (23:42):
But nobody asked her.

Speaker 5 (23:44):
Like you made it where your friend now has to
decide and she wants to have her homegirls back or
her exes back, and it's on camera, so everything's times ten.
Now he hows cameras they're let me match energy, so
I can't go out, and I like, no punk right,
So you got this and that's what happens because people
want to show off for the cameras.

Speaker 4 (24:04):
That's what I kind of feel. I feel like it
was elevated because people will watch it.

Speaker 1 (24:09):
I think you think it was elevated from marquas perspective
or Sharon's perspective or both.

Speaker 5 (24:15):
Sharon first and then Mark has responding to her both
like you know, I am about to look like she's
punking me walking into the housepital my you know my
kids are?

Speaker 4 (24:23):
I feel like she started it?

Speaker 2 (24:24):
She did.

Speaker 5 (24:25):
It wasn't major, but it was enough to like an
already tense situation, or don't take that much of gasoline
to make that flame go of higher?

Speaker 7 (24:32):
True, she started it?

Speaker 6 (24:35):
I did.

Speaker 2 (24:37):
So then?

Speaker 1 (24:38):
Could you know what was so interesting about it is?
Prior to that scene, you did see Ken and Marquaz
meet up one on one too.

Speaker 2 (24:48):
Oh, go ahead, Dustin, that was crazy.

Speaker 7 (24:51):
Stop trying.

Speaker 3 (24:51):
You got to stop trying with motherfuckers sometimes. You know
what I'm saying. This has been going on for years.
This is what we what do we call it in
our line of work at multi year pregnant shit right
that this has been going on between Tricia and Marcus.
You know what I'm saying, Like, you know how he is, Ken,
You know how he is too. Stop trying to build
a bridge and make an inroads where there isn't one.

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Focus everything on them kids. They have beautiful children together,
by the way. Focus everything on them children, you know
what I'm saying, And just eliminate any unnecessary communication. You
can't make him change and be a different person. He's
exactly who he is and they know that by now,
so Ken banging his head against the wall trying to
figure out how to put a what do they take

(25:35):
a square peg? And whatever the fucking saying is stop
just stop. That was crazy to me that he went
and met up. I understand that it gave us something
interesting to look at. But again, this is the difference
between a television showing what would likely happen in real life.
Because I wish I be Damn you think I would
have set up there talking if I was Ken talking

(25:55):
to my kids about what you know what I'm saying, No,
we don't have nothing to talk about but this.

Speaker 2 (26:01):
But this was so interesting, Dustin, so in real life.
So obviously after.

Speaker 1 (26:05):
We take the reunion, we have like a couple of
months of hiatus before we.

Speaker 2 (26:10):
Resume with this with with the with the next season.

Speaker 1 (26:13):
So after that reunion, Dustin, what's interesting is they I
think Ken, if I got this mistake in Ken, let
me know, I believe Ken made the effort after the
reunion where they did get into it too, offered an
olive branch too to Marquez. And what was so interesting

(26:34):
is when we got back in production, he was like,
me and Marquez are working on being better because I think,
and that's the beauty of TV. You see your behavior
or you see your actions and you're like, you know
what I could have done better?

Speaker 2 (26:46):
And I think that's the reason why Ken felt so upset.

Speaker 1 (26:50):
When Sharon my sharing when Tricia told him how Marquez
did walk up in the house.

Speaker 2 (26:57):
And just just so y'all know, Marquez was.

Speaker 6 (26:59):
Not my.

Speaker 2 (27:01):
Production we had. He was not miked.

Speaker 4 (27:05):
Boom and the boom sound real good.

Speaker 1 (27:07):
Yes he was we had so so for the audience too.
That wasn't a fake scene production. We had no idea
that Marquess was about to walk in. That scene was
strictly supposed to be about Tricia and Sharon discussing their
situation when they saw when they saw Marquess pull up

(27:30):
and with his daughter, they of course followed my rule,
which is you.

Speaker 2 (27:35):
Follow the reality.

Speaker 1 (27:37):
And he walked a been there and that's why you
saw Tricia like, I know, this did not just walking
in my house.

Speaker 2 (27:45):
So it wasn't it wasn't fake. He wasn't Mike. He
was not Mike.

Speaker 3 (27:49):
And that's why that day.

Speaker 5 (27:56):
Just like like I would have reacted, I'd be like
more like stunning and someone came up in my house
than when I was filming.

Speaker 3 (28:05):
Like like, baby, I would have been on my feet
so fast with my finger pointed, get the fuck out
of here. Outd have been so fast going off immediately
walking in my house.

Speaker 4 (28:15):
I think it'd be a lot less issues. And again
I'm new to this show. If they gotta get that
divorce and too many weird stool attachments, like that's just
so weird, Like get that divorce done. You know you
got a new man there raising he says it, those
are my kids, he goes, but this is my family now.

Speaker 5 (28:32):
And I was like, oh, I can see why marks
will be you know, triggered by that, Like that's gotta
be a gut punch like ough, Like I'm not the
house with the kids, but that dig that and that's
not your fel that's my family. So you got some
boundaries like divorce, get that, get that squared away.

Speaker 4 (28:48):
I don't know who's holds who's holding up the divorce?
What's what's the hold up?

Speaker 2 (28:52):
Dustin? Would you like to answer that?

Speaker 7 (28:54):
So here's what I heard.

Speaker 3 (28:57):
So, according to Marquez, Tricia and Ken inappropriately or issues
some paperwork that did not list one of their children.
Because I think one of the children is a minor, right,
and the other one is above eighteen. And the paperwork,
according to Ken, according to Marquez, did not have that

(29:18):
on there. But as we've seen this week, when they
was putting that paper in his face like this, that
paper had the child's name on it, and Ken was
about to push his finger through that paper.

Speaker 7 (29:29):
He was so goddamn mad when he was it's right there,
it's right there. You don't see it. That's when he
was doing that.

Speaker 4 (29:35):
He was there.

Speaker 3 (29:37):
Because Marquez is a troll, and I don't know see
me personally, I'd have been like, so what are you saying?
Because I don't want to be married to you anymore, Marquez,
So please don't misunderstand.

Speaker 7 (29:48):
Any of this.

Speaker 3 (29:50):
I'm not omitting names in an attempt to stay married
to you. I don't want to be married to you.
That's what needs to be said. But Tricia has this
thing where she just gets in and she goes into
a back and forth and just plays off of whatever
the last thing the person that she's arguing with says. So, like, Claudia,
if you and Tricia have a back and forth verbally

(30:10):
and you tell her, well, I didn't like what you did.

Speaker 7 (30:12):
She'll say, well, I didn't like what you did, you
know what I mean? She does that.

Speaker 3 (30:15):
Instead of getting to the root of the issue, and
she's talking about shit. So that's what happened. So the
last time we checked, that's why they were still married.

Speaker 4 (30:25):
Marquez is a little bit of a high head, A
little bit what you say.

Speaker 3 (30:29):
I think Marquez has a he's a troll. He don't
mind stirring the pot if he knows it's going to
get on your fucking nerves, and he has an issue
with you.

Speaker 7 (30:37):
So I think that's the kind of person he is.

Speaker 3 (30:38):
I wouldn't say a hot head, because Ken was hot
in that scene. Carlos, why didn't we see the damn
fight too? That's what I'm tired of. Show the damn fight.
You can't drink. You can't drink us that damn close.
You know what I'm saying to it? We want to
see it. Can we please get a bonus cut, a
director's cut or something. Stop blacking the screen out, Carlos, Damn,

(30:59):
we walked, I get I get blamed.

Speaker 4 (31:02):
This just putting the tip in and I'll give us
the whole shafting.

Speaker 7 (31:08):
That's what I'm saying, man, we're trying to welcome.

Speaker 2 (31:10):
To my twenties. That's what my twenties was like. So look,
what I will say is this.

Speaker 1 (31:23):
Every look, it's not my decision.

Speaker 2 (31:27):
It's not I'll just leave that that.

Speaker 7 (31:30):
It's not my decision. It's not my good.

Speaker 1 (31:32):
But but but but but but I do want to
ask all something about this based on what you two
have seen in that scene. These are the questions that
were position on social media over the weekend. Do y'all
think that Tricia and Marquaz are still in love with

(31:55):
each other and that's evident based on what you guys seen,
and that can should move away from this relationship.

Speaker 7 (32:04):
Claudia, what you think?

Speaker 5 (32:06):
I don't know if I know enough say she they're
in love, but there's definitely still some feelings there, but
there should be had two kids with this person.

Speaker 4 (32:13):
I don't know if there's still love.

Speaker 5 (32:15):
I think Mark Kuz is showing that he's still a
little bit like he don't feel like he's replaced Mebuh.

Speaker 4 (32:22):
That can't feel good.

Speaker 5 (32:23):
Listen, you out the chicken coop and a new roal
cities in the chicken coop with your eggs. Old Lady
laying your eggs showing his cop You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (32:37):
You know what I'm saying. That can't worm.

Speaker 7 (32:41):
No, Patricia said it was a hot dog.

Speaker 3 (32:44):
Remember in the in the in the episode, she said,
he came out here this out.

Speaker 9 (32:48):
Remember the way something box people in the nothing Are
we going to listen?

Speaker 1 (33:00):
That'ster's on tour if you're in Atlanta August sixteenth. He
has a second show that's been added because the first
one sold out.

Speaker 2 (33:06):
Yes, are you going to like this impersonation?

Speaker 3 (33:10):
You know I'm an old school I am inspired by
the old school grades of comedy. I come from the
school of death comedy, jam and comic View and Eddie
Murphy Ross so hell yeah, and lots of impressions, lots
of physical comedy, lots of ship talking.

Speaker 7 (33:24):
Yes, there will be impressions.

Speaker 3 (33:27):
Absolutely, Claudia know she's Claudia has seen it yet.

Speaker 5 (33:32):
The Negro's next. That's no left and right. Oh myth
They need to make a movie about him. Twenty Ways,
Bubble of Bag, mar Marquis Marquette, whatever, Homeboy and old Girl.

Speaker 4 (33:46):
When guys, when you break up with your hand right
appreciates are so bad?

Speaker 5 (33:51):
It's most likely the man's gonna find other woman before
the woman finds another man.

Speaker 4 (33:55):
Especially when you have kids.

Speaker 10 (33:56):
A lot of times, guys like you ain't never gonna
find another one with another and you got two kids,
fools that I'll watch you guys be liked when that
girl move on with some and someone else comes in
and let alone, another man comes in and wants to
take care of those kids too, or want to be
there for that's gotta be like that, does't you know
that's got to be pissed them off?

Speaker 3 (34:14):
Well, didn't do your job and be more present and
so that he can be her man and you can
be their father. To me, I don't know, y'all know
how I have very rigid views when it comes to
like the way men show up in relationships.

Speaker 7 (34:27):
I just you know what I'm shout out to Mika Smith.
I love y'all too. I love it. D I'm gonna come.
We just I'm coming. But anyway, he needs to step up.

Speaker 3 (34:36):
See what you do is if you're a person who's
affected by things in that way, you eliminate the risk.
And the way that he could eliminate the risk is
by showing up and being present, paying for everything for
his damn children. Stop offering other people's food and drinks
to guests. You know what I'm saying, Stop doing that
coming up in their house talking about do you want
something to drink to this lady? Where'd you gonna get

(34:58):
it from? That's Kin's refrigerator. You know what I'm saying,
Like you can't. Markis got it. That's why I say
he trolls because I know he's aware when he does
those things. But if he's a man that's affected by
that and made to feel inadequate, which I think is
a lot of what we see, I think he feels inadequate,
and it's a literal physical comparison, you know what I'm saying.

(35:18):
Ken is bigger and stronger than him, and he's showing
up handling your responsibilities.

Speaker 7 (35:23):
I think Markuiz feels minimized in that way.

Speaker 2 (35:28):
So yeah, yeah, and also think this too. I think
a lot of it goes to show that.

Speaker 1 (35:34):
Look, when you have an a tense situation based on
the former well I can't even say former because they're
still married technically, right, And then you have Ken, who
obviously is in love with Trish, He's in love with
the kids, he's taking care of his mainly responsibilities.

Speaker 2 (35:53):
Why do you guys think though?

Speaker 1 (35:55):
Before we move on to Marceau and Maurice, why do
you guys feel though that?

Speaker 2 (36:00):
But the audience is strictly blaming Tricia.

Speaker 1 (36:03):
They felt like this is Tricia's fault and a lot
of them want Can to leave her and they don't
feel like can.

Speaker 2 (36:12):
I'm sorry, they don't feel like Tricia's good enough for Can.

Speaker 4 (36:15):
They always be blaming the black the black woman.

Speaker 5 (36:18):
It's always her. It's our fault for every single thing.
When it's men acting up, Oh what did you do
to make him do that? When you get raped? What
was you wearing when you get beat up?

Speaker 1 (36:26):
Oh?

Speaker 5 (36:26):
What did you say that pissed him off? It's annoying
as hell, and I'm sick of it. I mean, I
haven't seen anything. Again, I'm new to the show. I
haven't seen the blatant anything, blatantly wrong that she did.
But I think that's just like kind of what.

Speaker 4 (36:38):
Our society does. And it's not just other men, it's
other women too. And I don't know, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (36:44):
I think there's two factors too here that do come
into play. We were introduced to Tricia. She was surrounded
by a lot of questions. Remember we were met When
we met her, she lied about knowing Martel, and so
a lot of people feel like Tricia is a liar.
They don't believe anything that she says, and so that
kind of places her in their scope when it comes

(37:06):
to playing the blame game, right. And another thing, Tricia
do look like she always sneaking, you know what I'm saying,
Like when she be in these scenes, tell her, you know,
she always looks sneaking, like she's sneaking doing something. And
I think that's what makes people feel like that, you
know what I'm saying when it comes to her.

Speaker 4 (37:21):
So, so does she look sneaky or do you think
she is sneaky?

Speaker 7 (37:25):
I think she looks sneaky, but so.

Speaker 4 (37:28):
You could look sneaky even not be sneaky, right, I think.

Speaker 3 (37:30):
She looks sneaky and I think she lied about how
she knows Martell when she came onto the show, And
I think that's a toxic combination when it comes to
people believe in what you have to say.

Speaker 5 (37:41):
And then on reality TV there is no forgiveness. Like
we talked about her beginning, you mess up the one
one time, that's it. You know you are always going
to be looked through through that lens.

Speaker 7 (37:50):
But Lot, that's why King friends want him to leave
her Kiv's friends.

Speaker 3 (37:54):
He was like, you zoom out and look at the
whole puzzle, Like you got to look at the whole puzzle,
Like why are you doing this? Basically that's what he
was asking Ken, like why are you staying in this
damn relationship?

Speaker 7 (38:05):
Yeah, And Chris Flincher sat up there not when he
was saying it. Chris Flincher was.

Speaker 2 (38:10):
Like, yeah, so I do want to I do want
to talk to you guys about this. Listen. The beauty
of Monday.

Speaker 1 (38:18):
Night Live is the fact that this is live, this
is not take and you never know who's gonna pop in.
So Dustin and Claudia, look, look, there's a lot that
happened on this episode of Love and Matche hunts Bill.
So it would be remiss of me not to bring

(38:38):
on somebody to have a real conversation. Ladies jumped to men,
gaze and bathe and all the rain drops around the world.
Give it up for the man, the myth, the chocolate
in the bottle.

Speaker 2 (38:50):
Marcel, Marcel, what's having this? Marceau all horizontally.

Speaker 5 (39:05):
Okay, work and you are too far, like if you
can bring in a little closely there you go.

Speaker 11 (39:13):
Like I'm sitting all the way now see you look
when Carlos says jump, I jump.

Speaker 6 (39:18):
I'm just getting off the plane.

Speaker 11 (39:20):
I'm at the the lounge and I'm like, yes, you
know so this Carlos when we say asked me to
do someone, I say, yes.

Speaker 2 (39:31):
I appreciate you. Marcel. Marcell was just so so first
of all, Marcel me Claudia Jordan.

Speaker 4 (39:40):
I think he did my show.

Speaker 5 (39:41):
He did, Yeah, you did my show before out Loud
and I came to the lounge one time.

Speaker 6 (39:47):
And himself, Oh you can't.

Speaker 4 (39:49):
You went to black Yep with Fundy Neva. Right, it
was years ago, Okay, now it was.

Speaker 6 (39:57):
It wasn't need but it was with some other people.
It was, oh god, what was that one? It was
out for play.

Speaker 4 (40:04):
Yeah, I thought he was there. He was there. Oh,
I'm old.

Speaker 5 (40:07):
My memory is trash. I'm I've been crying all day
with my cat, so I don't know what's happening.

Speaker 6 (40:10):
Sorry, oh you got a cat cry.

Speaker 4 (40:16):
I had to take it. Dans had to put her down. Today.

Speaker 5 (40:18):
She live, but it's it's I'm going it anyway, I'm
sorry's out the whole nother time.

Speaker 4 (40:24):
It's about you right now. But anyways, hello, welcome.

Speaker 2 (40:27):
To the show.

Speaker 6 (40:29):
Hey not how are you? Hey?

Speaker 2 (40:30):
Guys, and you and you know I'm Dustin already, So
what's Marshall?

Speaker 7 (40:36):
I know I know that Dustin, You're good, chilling brother, chilling.

Speaker 1 (40:41):
So Marceau, thank you for stepping into the lounge and
onto the show. So while I have you, and before
we get into you and your brother having an argument
over the Golden Child, I do want.

Speaker 2 (40:53):
To ask you this question.

Speaker 1 (40:54):
First though, you saw what happened between Ken, Trisha and
Marquez last season. We saw you talk to Marquez about
how you felt his behavior was and and you know,
not being there at the.

Speaker 2 (41:10):
Time he should have been all those things.

Speaker 1 (41:12):
When you watch the altercation that happened between Ken and
Marquez in front of Trician Sharon, what are your thoughts
and all of that that went down.

Speaker 6 (41:26):
My thoughts are is that you know, when you get
people together, like you get one.

Speaker 11 (41:32):
Side, you can get the truth, but you're always getting
different perspectives. And so what I understand about relationships is
that you know, when I'm talking to Trish, she's telling
me everything from.

Speaker 6 (41:45):
Her perspective and what Marquez did.

Speaker 11 (41:48):
And when I'm talking to Marquis, he's telling me everything
what Tris did, but no one's taking accountability for it.
And so I know we're missing a lot of the
story as far as what the did, what they felt,
what's really going on in the situation.

Speaker 6 (42:00):
And so that's why to me, it's a little hard
to understand when.

Speaker 12 (42:05):
You know, then this unfinished business there is For me,
I can see through the line of this unfinished business
when it jumps to Marquez and Trish, and I think
that's what we're getting the residue of.

Speaker 2 (42:20):
Do you think that Ken and.

Speaker 1 (42:24):
Do you think Ken and Tricia will last while this
divorce is still not finalized, or do you think they're
going to work through it?

Speaker 11 (42:39):
So I personally think that they have their biggest issue
right now is now they have a crowd watching, and
so now they have they have they got a little
bit more at stake right now. It's easy to walk
a line, but when you put it ten thousand feet
in the air and change the dynamics of it, and
so now I think that it's hard to do this

(43:01):
when you're being called stupid, it's hard to do this
when you've got a lot of opinions, when you got
a lot more dms, when you got a lot more
people coming to you saying, hey, you know the you know.

Speaker 6 (43:14):
The you should leave thems?

Speaker 11 (43:15):
You know the you should leave them are present, They're
gonna be here, And I think it's hard to walk
that line right there and then it's hard to do
this sometimes feeling stupid but then being called stupid over
and over and over. I think powerful Ken, I think
it's hard for uh, you know, that's a hard dynamic,
especially in love.

Speaker 4 (43:34):
Does it also make you fight harder sometimes, like to
prove than they say is wrong? Does that also help
you sometimes in these shows?

Speaker 11 (43:43):
Yeah, when you're running while you're tired, you get that
burst of energy that lasts about less than one hundred
meters and then you're back to being dog ass tired.
And so I think that while you're doing it, you
want to say, hey, babe, back against the wall, me
and you versus the world. And he takes a couple
more episodes, come more being called stupids, a couple more

(44:05):
bullshit than you're like, hey man, what am I really
doing here?

Speaker 7 (44:10):
You've seen a lot of people calling Ken stupid myself.

Speaker 6 (44:15):
Oh yeah, broyh yeah yeah yeah yeah.

Speaker 11 (44:18):
And because it's not because Ken's stupid, it's because Ken
is so short of himself with the answers. You know
what I'm saying, Oh no, no, no, no no. Remember
a hanging over with Oh Boy. It was like, oh, oh,
my wife doesn't do that. She doesn't like semen. And
he's like, okay, buddy, don't be that guy.

Speaker 4 (44:40):
What do you think about him? What do you think
about Ken? What do you think about Ken?

Speaker 11 (44:46):
I think Ken's a I think Ken's a good guy.
I think Ken, Ken is a good guy. Ken has
this Ken is going to meet he uh, that's my guy.
But he goes through the same stuff that that handsome
men go through later on in life, and medium attractive
guys go through earlier life.

Speaker 6 (45:07):
You know, like I learned this lesson?

Speaker 2 (45:13):
What do you mean that?

Speaker 6 (45:15):
What is that?

Speaker 2 (45:15):
Break that down?

Speaker 6 (45:16):
Please? Okay? And I'm not saying this about that situation.

Speaker 11 (45:24):
All right, I'm not saying this, but sometimes you can
be a great guy and just not her first choice
or she's not into you, or whatever.

Speaker 6 (45:34):
Situation may be. You might have all of this stuff
stacked up right here, but it just doesn't.

Speaker 11 (45:38):
Line up, and you don't understand why, because you thought
that the relationships were on you. You thought that if
I just be a good guy, then it'll all fall
in place. And you learn later on in life that
sometimes it's just you know, bad timing. Bro, You don't
think that right now. I think it's a tough situation

(45:59):
because you two people that like each other, but the
idea of that next step is tough.

Speaker 4 (46:06):
Do you think she's settling for him? Like, like you
kind of give that analogy, Like you know later she's not.
He's not her first choice. Like you know, when we
get older, we're like, all right, we might as well.
I might as well get with him. He's a nice guy.
Is it kind of like that?

Speaker 11 (46:25):
You know, I'm not gonna I'm not gonna fully agree
with trick Daddy, but I will say that settling ain't
a bad thing. You might want to make your decisions
while you're in your prime, and after you get into
your prime, you might want to start thinking about settling.

Speaker 6 (46:40):
Mm. Well, of it. It's not a bad thing. It's
not a bad thing. Because no, I don't think she's settling.
I think that she's just not in the place right
now where.

Speaker 11 (47:00):
I think she wants to have fun and the idea
of getting off this long marriage and this crazy roller
coaster and then jumping right onto another one is dang,
can you let me get a drink first, Let me
take a break first, let.

Speaker 6 (47:16):
Me wind down. So I'm like, that's what that might
be some of that, But again.

Speaker 2 (47:25):
Marcel, I don't know. I think that no, no, no, no,
I think the beauty listen Marcel. Always.

Speaker 1 (47:33):
One of the meaning reasons I love Marcel is because
Marcel has a lot of wisdom and insight when it
comes to things, because he's able to see things obviously
from his perspective. And I think it's I think it's
an interesting dialogue because there is a big topic of
conversation about settling and when you do reach a certain age,

(47:56):
are you just happy to be with somebody that checks
the boxes of what works for you in the during
the life that you're living right now versus what you said,
like walking.

Speaker 2 (48:08):
Or running while you're tired?

Speaker 1 (48:10):
Am I am I going to risk losing something that
seems right on paper to go after something that forces
me to just continue to be on this roller coaster ride.

Speaker 7 (48:26):
Do y'all think Ken is settling too, and.

Speaker 6 (48:30):
And turloughs real talk like there's not a lot of
guys out there like Ken. There's not. There's not a
lot of guys out there like Ken.

Speaker 11 (48:39):
So Ken's value is going Oh, I'm not saying Trici's
value is going down, but Ken is going up.

Speaker 6 (48:45):
Ships drink.

Speaker 2 (48:49):
Well, listen. I just discovered Ken on TikTok.

Speaker 1 (48:52):
My algorithm found Ken and does to Claudia and marcel
I spent. I was traveling today and I'm reading all
of the comments of Kn's TikTok posts, and what I
will say is unfortunately, because Ken's in a relationship, and
I figure ladies are Jezebels for doing this, but our names.

(49:13):
There's a lot of women, Claudia in the comments telling
Ken to lead, Tricia telling Ken you're too good of
a woman, telling Ken dip this chocolate in my strawberry shake.
There's a lot of there's a lot of women who
is encouraging Can to leave his situation. And what I

(49:36):
do want to talk to and I want to move
on to you and Marion while I have you, mar So,
but I do want to raise this question. We hear
lots of times about how marriages on reality television oftentimes
in a divorce.

Speaker 7 (49:48):
Right.

Speaker 2 (49:48):
So we're not gonna talk about that right now.

Speaker 1 (49:50):
But what we don't spend a lot of time talking
about is that reality TV glow. Right, What happens when
you the world knows you're in a relationship and you
happen to be a handsome individual and there's a lot
of women who want you based on them thinking the

(50:11):
woman you have does not deserve you. Did that happen
to you, Marcel once the show started popping and your
medium ugly status grew into being a handsome fellow like
your brother Maurice.

Speaker 11 (50:28):
Well, Carlos, I will say this that I'm not I mean,
I'm gonna get beat up for this, but I'll pledged
Q the HBCU, all right, I've been popping. So this
this this this new world walk of fame, and righteously
I'm so happy that in college I was on that
same level.

Speaker 6 (50:48):
So this doesn't this ain't new. But yeah, you get that,
you get a lot of d ms, and I wouldn't.
I wouldn't. I wouldn't.

Speaker 11 (50:57):
I wouldn't like bro simmer down now because all of
that stuff that you think that you wouldn't do.

Speaker 6 (51:04):
First of all, you know they would do. And and
it's not even it's not cuse worth it. But them
d ms do be dumping.

Speaker 4 (51:16):
Really okay, I'm looking at some of my DM are trash.

Speaker 2 (51:26):
They are.

Speaker 4 (51:27):
They do not reflect I feel like my success level.
I'm a little bit offended on my dms.

Speaker 5 (51:31):
I feel like Instagram is mess with my algorithm and
they put me in a weird space.

Speaker 4 (51:34):
You should see my DM. I would share them.

Speaker 5 (51:36):
It is very like, I don't know, it's messing my
self esteem. I'm like, I deserve better DM than this.

Speaker 4 (51:44):
I a lot of mentally ill on my dms.

Speaker 6 (51:46):
And of ill Claudia, Claudia not going back to trick daddy.
But but what I'm saying, I'm it's just it's.

Speaker 4 (52:01):
You're saying I hit the walls. M h, you got
a back connection.

Speaker 6 (52:10):
I think upgrade that.

Speaker 4 (52:16):
I think Black needs to upgrade their WiFi. I can't
hate you right now.

Speaker 6 (52:21):
This ain't Black, this is this is a Centurion lounge.

Speaker 4 (52:23):
You talk to them, Oh them too.

Speaker 6 (52:28):
No, but no, I'm not saying that you hit your wall.
Absolutely not. I'm saying that.

Speaker 11 (52:35):
And the the more rare you get and the more.
Everybody ain't shopping for Ferraris. So if you are a
nice Ferrari or a bit ley or being.

Speaker 6 (52:44):
You're gonna sit on the shlf a little longer.

Speaker 5 (52:47):
Okay, I'm seeing a lot of comments from the rain
drops saying that on Ken's TikTok, he's liking a lot
of a comment.

Speaker 4 (53:00):
We're they're saying he's single.

Speaker 7 (53:05):
That's a Carlos question.

Speaker 4 (53:06):
What do tail Carlos?

Speaker 1 (53:10):
All I would say is we are currently shooting Love
and matrig Huntsville, and one thing that we do is
follow the reality. But but, but I do want to
ask you one more question, Marcel before we move on
to Maurice and you, what advice would you give Claudia.
Claudia is a beautiful woman, she is educated. Because Claudia

(53:33):
Cadia has well call you tell your own story child
to Marcel. Marceau has a lot of wisdom. Marcell has
been married fifteen years? Is it Marceau fifteen going on fifteen?

Speaker 2 (53:47):
I'm sorry start this month.

Speaker 1 (53:51):
So Marcel is going on nineteen years of marriage and
Marceau has a lot of wisdom. So I would love
for you, as a heterosexual black man and to give
the beautiful Claudia Jordan.

Speaker 2 (54:02):
Any advice you think she may need. Uh, Claudia is single, Claudia,
I am single.

Speaker 4 (54:10):
Choice.

Speaker 5 (54:11):
I see my friends going through it on social media
and all y'all in the reality shows.

Speaker 4 (54:15):
I have a lot of peace in my house. No
one is leaving the cap off.

Speaker 5 (54:19):
The toothpaste, and the toilet seat is down, and my
house is spotless.

Speaker 2 (54:23):
I'm good, it is, Carlos.

Speaker 6 (54:28):
Okay, So no, I want to know.

Speaker 2 (54:31):
Oh, go ahead, I'm sorry, I'm gonna let I'm gonna
let Marce Claudia talk.

Speaker 5 (54:35):
I do say that they do say you have a
lot of wisdom to comments, and they say you have
very strong views on women and all that, let's hear it.

Speaker 11 (54:43):
But I would say this, I would say, and I
just know from the outside looking in, and so it
has to be a general perspective. But of course I
think that there are so many different attributes that you know,
a woman like yourself would have. I would say, don't
be afraid to open yourself up to the guy that

(55:04):
you wouldn't normally talk to, right, because he's kid it real,
all right, Men of a certain status, they're gonna put
up with a certain stuff. You know, and if you
want to, if you want to talk to a guy
that's a boss, a guy that's the leader, a guy

(55:25):
that's over his own thing and has achieved a certain
amount of success.

Speaker 6 (55:29):
I continue this right now. He's normally used to saying
something and people replying yes, sir.

Speaker 11 (55:36):
Right on top of that, rose okay. He's normally used
to his words achieving things. He's not a stupid guy.
He's not a guy that lacks ambition. But he's a
guy that gets what he wants because he goes after it,
because he's willing to make the sacrifice, because he's gonna
He's generally intelligent.

Speaker 6 (55:53):
So that's the kind of guy you want. Well, that
means that you being of a you know, a great
and strung I.

Speaker 11 (56:01):
Mean you have to fall in line with that, you know,
he that guy is not used to struggling with things
that he wants that he's you know, to.

Speaker 6 (56:10):
Be successful poor. Does that make sense? No, it doesn't.

Speaker 4 (56:19):
Saying if a man got something going on, shut the
fuck up, don't talk back. He is he said, not
nobody pushing back, and you be quiet.

Speaker 5 (56:26):
You know your role, you know your place, and you
us if you want a man of a certain status
kind of right in that shell.

Speaker 11 (56:32):
I'm saying a portion of that is, but I say,
exercise your femininity and that is the uh that that
that's what breaks down masculinity, the femininity, not paid up
masculinity from a woman. So one a woman that's alpha
with what they think is an awful woman that just

(56:55):
really's mouth that right there.

Speaker 6 (56:58):
That's just like a guy, a guy of major status
talking to.

Speaker 11 (57:03):
A weaker man versus the femininity is what actually breaks
that doubt in the guy. So that's what the guy's
looking for to a guy of that of the god
that you're looking for once.

Speaker 5 (57:15):
The woman needs Oh, I totally understand that. I definitely
live in my femininity in the household. I will say
I will speak for a lot of women with this.
Most women, when they actually come in contact with actual
masculinity and not just loud mouth Boston, it's just because
they have a penis, would love to fall in place

(57:37):
or fall into the femininity and love to let a
man lead. I think a lot of times when women
don't is when they're not really respecting that man because
he may have shown some weakness or some bitch assness
or some lack of leadership and then they're like, I
don't trust you, you know, and I think you have
to like, you know, when that master man sees is

(57:58):
in his masculinity, a woman is gonna she's going to
be a support, a nurture.

Speaker 4 (58:02):
When she doesn't have respective and see it, she's gonna
pop off.

Speaker 5 (58:05):
Or that woman could also have some issues herself. Well,
I'm not going to say all women are sitting here
being perfect, because they're not. You know, there's plenty of
people that that you know, we'll see a good thing coming.

Speaker 4 (58:15):
And mess it up.

Speaker 3 (58:22):
In line, Claudia, do you how do from a woman's perspective, right,
how do you all wh if you see a guy
that is or if you start talking to a man
right and he has views on let's say gender roles
right that are really traditional and he's basically beating his

(58:44):
chest in an effort to say, you know, like my house,
my rules type shit.

Speaker 7 (58:48):
What do women like you think about men like that?

Speaker 3 (58:51):
Do you view that as them posturing or positioning themselves
to mask some insecurity or like what how does that
land on a woman like you who's successful right in
your own right?

Speaker 7 (59:03):
You have all the boxes checked, you know, you have
your own home, you have options. You know what I mean?

Speaker 3 (59:09):
How do you view men that show up that way
in relationship and immediately try to establish like a hierarchy?

Speaker 7 (59:18):
You know what I'm saying? How does that make you feel?

Speaker 4 (59:21):
I always thought that men that actually have it, like, like, really,
whose house phone is that? It's easy? My house bowing?
We got a help phones.

Speaker 2 (59:31):
I love it.

Speaker 4 (59:31):
I'm not alone. You've got housephones?

Speaker 7 (59:34):
No, that's my intercom?

Speaker 2 (59:36):
Okay, oh you got Oh somebody have company?

Speaker 4 (59:40):
Well let me make this that oh we lost them.
I will say this.

Speaker 5 (59:43):
I think men that really actually have those qualities that
are that are actual leaders don't have to tell you.

Speaker 4 (59:49):
I think real power is quiet.

Speaker 5 (59:50):
You don't have to tell me because guess what, I'm
peeping you, I'm looking at you, and I will recognize, oh,
he got to go on.

Speaker 4 (59:57):
This is a man, This is a man. I think
the men that are like I'm the man, I'm the man,
really not just like you.

Speaker 5 (01:00:04):
Know people that are out here saying I'll make moves
in silence. You're not making moves in silence. You're announcing it.
Like I feel like, you know, we're all smart enough
and perceptive enough to notice it. I love a strong,
silent man where I can just pick it up myself
and see it. You have me in check without having
to tell me you're about to put me there or

(01:00:26):
you go all listen at me. I'm gonna want you
because I admire you, i admire strength, i admire masculinity.
I'm attracted to that. I'm gonna be like, yo, you
gotta going on. I don't have to question him.

Speaker 4 (01:00:35):
A lot of times we pop off like we don't like,
we're seeing you be irresponsible, not doing what you have
that you said you're gonna do, not being a man
of integrity and all that, So then we lose respect
for you, and then we pop off. And then these
men be like, she don't want to listen to us,
she doesn't choose not with her feminine. You're masculine, because.

Speaker 5 (01:00:55):
Someone's got to be the man, and if it's not you,
fortunately we have to step up. We would prefer to
not have to be the man. No masculine woman got
there because she wanted to be. It was from a
lack of.

Speaker 4 (01:01:11):
You coming there on your man.

Speaker 5 (01:01:12):
Shit, you're gonna get a feminine woman, She's gonna fall
back unless she's mentally ill and they're awesome out there.

Speaker 4 (01:01:17):
Listen, all the women.

Speaker 5 (01:01:18):
Ain't perfect, but for the most part, I mean, I'll
fall back when I see you you handle things, you know,
you fix things about me telling you I don't have to, Like,
I don't know one wants the nag that ain't cute.

Speaker 3 (01:01:28):
I just think the notion of like people feeling like
a woman has to fall back quote unquote, and that
that's just crazy to me, because I mean, what are
we like, what are we saying here? Like when you
find a partner that works, In order for a relationship
between a man and a woman to sustain, the woman
has to shrink herself in some way and allow him

(01:01:48):
to be you know, I just don't don't.

Speaker 7 (01:01:51):
I don't know. But I'm a gag nigga, So what
do I know? You know what my story a lot?

Speaker 4 (01:01:58):
I think you know a lot.

Speaker 5 (01:01:59):
And I think that that is a problem, like that
caveman shoot is for the birds, But that was a
system that was kind of set up like keep you uneducated,
just pregnant, just being there to be a thing of
pleasure for men and not really have a say. And
some men may confuse a woman having an opinion with
not being feminine, like you should just not push back

(01:02:19):
at all or not have an opinion. And I think
that's crazy. I do think that people need to check
how they speak to each other. Man to women and
women to man is not a one way street. You know,
if you love someone, you care about someone, you should
care about their opinions and want them to contribute to this.

Speaker 3 (01:02:35):
Yeah, I don't know what. So Marcel's Internet service was
messing up? Yeah, so lifted Marcel.

Speaker 4 (01:02:43):
To masculine Marcel. Not so fast, a woman, shut your mouth.
He is back.

Speaker 2 (01:02:57):
So Martha, I don't like to are you going myself?
You can hear us.

Speaker 6 (01:03:04):
I hope we're better now, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:03:06):
Much better, much better, just in times.

Speaker 6 (01:03:08):
So let's sten my burning I heard I felt claudy
and customed me out.

Speaker 4 (01:03:12):
No, not at all.

Speaker 2 (01:03:14):
I don't.

Speaker 4 (01:03:15):
I don't think you're a problematic man.

Speaker 7 (01:03:17):
I really know.

Speaker 5 (01:03:17):
You've always been cool to me, and we've I've interviewed
you before. You you're cool to me. I like these
kind of conversations. I think like we should have one
of these conversations to each other, not just you and
your homeboys and me and my homegorls.

Speaker 6 (01:03:30):
Wrong, you think I'm a big on gender roles.

Speaker 4 (01:03:37):
Let's ask the chat chat. Is he what do you
think about Marise and gender roles? Is he a chauveness?
He listening right now?

Speaker 6 (01:03:44):
Y'all think I'm not choven this. I'm not choven this
at all. I don't. I don't. I believe in gender roles,
but I don't believe in I don't believe one roll
is above the other.

Speaker 11 (01:03:57):
Perfect you know, I believe in both are necessary and
two of the same roles. And you know, would you
rather have a car within two steering wheels and no hingine?
No anything has a role.

Speaker 8 (01:04:08):
And if she plays part exactly erectly, well, let's talk
about the part you played in your brother's relationship with
his step son Jalen.

Speaker 1 (01:04:18):
That caused a big stir of social media. Marcel, for
the record, I.

Speaker 2 (01:04:23):
Did do it.

Speaker 6 (01:04:23):
Call over the weekend, let me do something, Let me
change my wife podcast. Y'all are breaking up on the side.

Speaker 4 (01:04:32):
I see you that drink back up?

Speaker 2 (01:04:34):
I see okay?

Speaker 4 (01:04:35):
Are he ready for people in the like? Can we
move on? Claudia is not the topic tonight, Hey.

Speaker 2 (01:04:45):
Claudia, she's on the topic. She's Claudia is the only female. Hey,
pro Now.

Speaker 7 (01:04:54):
She's always the damn topic.

Speaker 2 (01:04:56):
Oh my god, it was a topic. She's a topic.

Speaker 4 (01:05:00):
I've had a rough day today. Okay, no, but no.

Speaker 2 (01:05:03):
A lot of people were asked you they could see Shelley.

Speaker 1 (01:05:05):
So you dig a lot of people who would like
to see Shelley before we move on, because definitely has
compand I want to make sure he has enough time to.

Speaker 2 (01:05:20):
By the way, justin, I enjoyed your interview with Michael Marquaz.

Speaker 3 (01:05:23):
Good job, thank you, thank you very much. I love
Michael a lot. It's one of my dear friends.

Speaker 7 (01:05:28):
So thank you. Yes, yes we will, won't we?

Speaker 13 (01:05:34):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (01:05:37):
Hey, Shelley, what's up, Shelley?

Speaker 2 (01:05:39):
Hi, Shelley.

Speaker 4 (01:05:41):
Shelly's not doing well today.

Speaker 5 (01:05:43):
As I took it to the bed, I thought I
had to put it asleep. She's only four point six pounds.
She her teeth are messed up. I think she has
a kidney problem. She's limping, and I have to give
her a steroid. I had to give her antibiotics and
I have to give her this something to make her
appetite come back.

Speaker 4 (01:06:01):
I'm in the vet and that like basically.

Speaker 5 (01:06:03):
Saying, what are you gonna do? And I'm like crying.
I had to call my ex to come down and
like help me with this decision, and I'm like, well,
I just feel like I owed it to her to
just try whatever little remedies I had that were available,
and if she's not better.

Speaker 4 (01:06:17):
By the end of the week, I'll probably have to
put it asleep.

Speaker 2 (01:06:19):
Out of one. I'm sorry, Claudia.

Speaker 7 (01:06:21):
I love you.

Speaker 2 (01:06:22):
She's love. Yes, we love you, and we're gonna pray
for you.

Speaker 7 (01:06:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:06:28):
People on housewives, and I tell you, ever since this
cat was on TV, I found she started feeling herself
like a little bit, like a little bit er.

Speaker 4 (01:06:37):
She's back.

Speaker 5 (01:06:38):
She's had a great life in Shelley. I will keep
you guys updated. But thank you for everyone that's asked.
I know this is not the Claudia Jordan show tonight,
but I just sorry.

Speaker 4 (01:06:46):
My energy's a little down.

Speaker 6 (01:06:47):
I've been.

Speaker 4 (01:06:47):
I was in tears all day today because you know,
she's like my kid. I've had her.

Speaker 6 (01:06:51):
She's better.

Speaker 4 (01:06:52):
Yeah five, So yeah, no.

Speaker 2 (01:06:55):
We love you, baby, keep us updated for real. Well, okay,
that's okay.

Speaker 1 (01:07:00):
I think Marcel is back. So I do wanna if
Marcel is back, like, okay, you good Marceau and the.

Speaker 6 (01:07:05):
Wi Fi sounds so much better now.

Speaker 7 (01:07:07):
So there we go.

Speaker 6 (01:07:08):
There we go.

Speaker 2 (01:07:10):
No perfect timing because.

Speaker 1 (01:07:14):
The biggest topic of this episode had a lot to
do with the conversation between Maurice and Jalen, Jalen saying
that although Maurice is his stepdad, that you, Marceau, were
more of a father figure to him.

Speaker 2 (01:07:32):
When you heard that, did it make you feel good?
But did it also make you feel bad for your brother?

Speaker 6 (01:07:38):
Yeah? It did.

Speaker 11 (01:07:40):
I mean that's a it's great for you know, someone
like Jalen, who I love my nephew.

Speaker 6 (01:07:47):
To think of me like that.

Speaker 11 (01:07:49):
But of course I'm thinking about Maurice in that moment too,
and it's like, dang, you know, because I know Reese.

Speaker 6 (01:07:56):
You know that that's that know that that's that's tough blow.
That's a tough blow when you come in and your
your goal is to come in and be the best
father you can be.

Speaker 5 (01:08:12):
You know.

Speaker 6 (01:08:13):
I think that people don't quite understand the step dad role.
And you know it's you know, my son m J.
I get stuff wrong with him all the time. Man,
It's like, but.

Speaker 4 (01:08:30):
He gets he gets his WiFi wrong.

Speaker 2 (01:08:32):
To I think his phone's ringing.

Speaker 7 (01:08:37):
Restaurant called black and so is the screen.

Speaker 2 (01:08:42):
That the what what do you think about that you've
been watching themself since season one? Were you surprised by
that too?

Speaker 6 (01:08:50):
People they want to call you now and call you years.

Speaker 14 (01:08:54):
But but.

Speaker 6 (01:08:57):
It's tough being to dad. You know this, this is
my first crack at it.

Speaker 11 (01:09:01):
And so thinking about Maurice coming in a situation where
you had to step up and he's gotta you know,
be a dan to a twelve year old who doesn't
know him, and he's figuring out his way to enter
in and figuring out discipline. And you know, that's a
self situation. I don't know if too many people that
walk in there and get that right.

Speaker 5 (01:09:20):
Jalen feels that way with you because like you're not
the disciplinarian, so it's you know, you're not really in
the house like that.

Speaker 4 (01:09:25):
So it's like it's easy, like it's easy to like
feel like a closer relationship with you. Like you know,
I've been not a step mom, but the girlfriend.

Speaker 5 (01:09:33):
Right if someone has kids and then the daughter may
I may find the daughter like telling me that she
hasn't told her mom, right, because it's like, you know,
it was a little bit not as close to the
situations easier to talk to in bond with like a
cool like the cool adult that I don't have to
worry about getting in trouble with you.

Speaker 4 (01:09:51):
Perhaps you know.

Speaker 6 (01:09:53):
It's it's it's much easier.

Speaker 11 (01:09:56):
It's easier to buy ice cream with you, and you
gotta buy milk, you know, and you can you can
come in to be the one that's always there for
the relief. You're not the one talking about filmwork every night,
and and and so. But also we have you know,
that's one part. But then recent I have different approaches
like my oldest son, but oldest son, my only son, MJ.

(01:10:19):
He's he reminds me a lot of Jalen and and
you know, and we have more of the same personality,
meaning that it's easier to I'm a guy that is
rationalize with people.

Speaker 6 (01:10:33):
I'm gonna talk to you. I'm not gonna say get
up and do it now. I'm gonna let you know.

Speaker 11 (01:10:38):
And even though you're gonna look at me and it
seem like you're ignoring me, You're gonna get up and
do it, you know, And I don't. I don't need
to assert my authority on you right then and there,
you know, Hey, man, that's what it is. And you know,
so it's I think I think it's a combination of
two things. One is that I'm an uncle, and two
is I have a different approach.

Speaker 3 (01:11:00):
It seemed like Maurice was really offended by the conversation
when you guys were sitting at the table, you and
Letitia and Keimmy and Maurice were discussing it, and Maurice
initially like got defensive, like right off rip when you
guys started talking about it, so much so that it
became like a back and forth between the two of you.

Speaker 7 (01:11:18):
Where you think that energy came from.

Speaker 3 (01:11:20):
Do you think it's just because it's such a sensitive topic,
like and you know, like you expressed earlier, he wants
to be a good father and a great father to Jalen.
Where you think that defensive nature came from? Because it
seemed like that kind of made it hard to get
to the root of the matter.

Speaker 11 (01:11:36):
You know, I saw a couple of comments about this
Dustin and people were like, oh my god, now they're
talking about sibling rivalry and they gonna turn the family
against each other.

Speaker 6 (01:11:46):
Let me tell you something. There's not a human alive
that ever argued fuss and fought with more than Maurice Scott. Right,
let's just make that clear. There's not a human alive.

Speaker 5 (01:11:55):
And so.

Speaker 13 (01:11:57):
That's not that argument comes from Marie ree world like, like,
you know, Maurice, I'm okay with it.

Speaker 6 (01:12:08):
But here's the thing.

Speaker 11 (01:12:10):
He doesn't do stuff that he doesn't think is right.
It is not going to intentionally do something he thinks
is wrong. And so when you come to him telling
them that it's wrong, he automatically disagrees with you because
he thought it was right. He wouldn't have done it
if he wasn't trying to get it right. So when
you come in and tell him that I think that
in his voice, you can see that the whole sarcast sy.

Speaker 6 (01:12:32):
Well, he seems just a dad.

Speaker 4 (01:12:33):
He seems just a.

Speaker 6 (01:12:33):
Dad, you know, and that that that's hurt.

Speaker 7 (01:12:37):
Yeah, I thought so too.

Speaker 6 (01:12:39):
That's just hurt. And don't I don't want to be
like that.

Speaker 11 (01:12:43):
But the challenge is it's like when you have to
tell them, hey, his hurt is Valley and you played
a part in that hurt, and he doesn't think he
played a part in that hurt.

Speaker 3 (01:12:55):
I text Carlos after I watched the episode and I
told him. I wish Maurice would have told Jalen in
that scene, like, man, I love you and I'm glad
you my son. Sometimes you just got to say it
playing and Maurice was trying to offer examples and going
kind of around the world with it. He should have
hugged Jalen in that scene and just told him how
much he loved him, because that's what it seemed like
Jalen needs to hear at the time. But like you said,

(01:13:17):
because of Marie's intentions, right, and he thought that he
was trying to do the best he could do. That's
probably what caused him to be kind of taking a
back in that moment and started defending himself instead.

Speaker 6 (01:13:29):
That's the one thing Reese is learning now.

Speaker 11 (01:13:33):
I'm saying now, I'm saying probably in his last six
seven months, right, he was a quarterback in college and
he thinks that if he throws the ball right, it
should be a completion. And I keep telling them that
communication takes place in the mind of the receiver and
it don't matter what you say. If they don't hear it,

(01:13:56):
then it's not a complete pass. And that goes on
your that if they don't hear it. If they don't
get what you're trying to say, it don't matter, you
know what I'm saying. And his argument may be I've
said it word, you know, Brook, it don't matter. He
was a perfect English when they speak Spanish and see
where they get you right?

Speaker 2 (01:14:17):
How did you feel when when I'm sorry, Goku?

Speaker 5 (01:14:21):
I saw comments about people saying, you know, some people
want to just be right and not really like be listening.

Speaker 4 (01:14:28):
You know what I'm saying, Like, you know, do you
want to be right? You want to be happy?

Speaker 5 (01:14:31):
And it seemed like he it is like he was
in a coming from a bad place, but does seem
like he wanted to be right, and you know, his
his point of view be heard, you know what I mean,
and like in his mind, like you said, if you
wouldn't do it, if he didn't think he was doing
the right thing already.

Speaker 6 (01:14:47):
You know, I think Reese has lost in intentions versus.

Speaker 11 (01:14:55):
I get I sometimes get lost there too, but get
lost in intentions versus is a results And the thought
that my heart was in a good place.

Speaker 6 (01:15:06):
I wasn't trying to do that. I was trying to
make a man out of him. I was trying to
do this right here. I was trying.

Speaker 11 (01:15:11):
I was doing the own RECEA. Ain't got no other
thirteen year old boys, you know at the time.

Speaker 6 (01:15:16):
So it's like he is he does he doesn't know.
This is a guy that's taking a.

Speaker 11 (01:15:21):
By the time a kid that grows up with you
is thirteen, you've been with him for thirteen years, and
so you know what you do on day thirteen.

Speaker 6 (01:15:31):
You're given a thirteen. You're given the test.

Speaker 11 (01:15:34):
There were level thirteen, right, You're giving that test right
then and there it says how you do and everything
you just is gonna be just on that. So it's like,
you know, it's like hats off to the guy that
can get there right.

Speaker 4 (01:15:46):
Hey, where I'm sorry? Where's Dalen's father, his real father,
his biological father? Is he not in the picture?

Speaker 11 (01:15:54):
I think he's in the picture, but like they're kind
of striking up some I don't know, like he's in
the picture but not in the the job.

Speaker 6 (01:16:02):
I've never met him, but he Jaalen.

Speaker 11 (01:16:04):
Talked to him and they've had some somewhat of a relationship.
I think that, you know, as he gets older, he's
you know, her as some stuff you got stay tuned.

Speaker 4 (01:16:15):
For he likes you the best though either what he
likes you the most, I.

Speaker 6 (01:16:23):
Think we're more.

Speaker 11 (01:16:25):
I think if we lived under the same roof, I
think he I think that that might change a little bit.

Speaker 2 (01:16:32):
Well, one thing that that Tsha Tsiha did say this
on My.

Speaker 1 (01:16:37):
Reality with the King Show and own that you know,
despite what people may think about you on television, mars
So they said, when it comes to the kids, you
are everyone's favorite when it comes to like.

Speaker 2 (01:16:48):
The cousins, the nephews and all of those things.

Speaker 1 (01:16:52):
Why do you think that it was hard for Maurice
to hear your point of view, to even hear Kimmy's
point of view, because I do think what people's missing
is Kimmy is his wife.

Speaker 2 (01:17:04):
Kimmy is the mother of Jayalen. Kimmy is saying the
same thing, and.

Speaker 1 (01:17:09):
The audience does feel like Maurice isn't listening to be
to to hear them, He's listening to respond. Growing that's
your brother and you two are the closest out of
your siblings, so growing up, obviously, Maurice has always been smart.
Do you think that what is disconnecting that the audience

(01:17:31):
or you or Kimmy may see for Maurice, is that
is Maurice just too smart for his own good and
he listens to respond like a lawyer does.

Speaker 11 (01:17:42):
Reese, Yeah, yeah, I think that you have to the
he had. He can't see it, and he can't see it,
so he.

Speaker 6 (01:17:54):
Doesn't he doesn't believe it exists.

Speaker 11 (01:17:57):
I think Maurice, like I said, for the first last
six months of totally, I said, this is a new Maurice.
And I've known him for forty five years, so this
is not a thing, right. He has the inability to
see different He had the inability to see different perspectives
or even know that different perspectives could exist.

Speaker 6 (01:18:14):
He said stuff like I wouldn't do that because that's stupid.

Speaker 11 (01:18:20):
But yeah, the inability to be stupid, you know what
I'm saying, Like I wouldn't say that because.

Speaker 6 (01:18:25):
That doesn't make sense, you know. So I think that,
you know. Again, the challenge is like I call it
a Reese.

Speaker 11 (01:18:32):
World at a lot of times, and Kimmy finally saw
it and other people are five he seeing it and
Reese righteously now is that it's funny that he's just
he's just now in the area that he's even I've
seen some changes, but it's like I can notice change
from the tone of his voice when he says something,
even allowing someone else to have a different perspective. But again,

(01:18:55):
this is going back town kind of the the Counacs
and I have with Claudia, and to me, it just
reminds me of just like in order to be successful
as a black man in this world, you have to
be steadfast, You have to be stubborn, you have.

Speaker 6 (01:19:09):
To be you know, you hear knows so much and
you have to prove so many people wrong that that
becomes a way of life.

Speaker 11 (01:19:18):
And then all of a sudden, when it's time to listen,
when you practice not listening, when you practice tuning people out,
and now it's time to listen and take advice, it's like,
you know, that becomes more of a chure.

Speaker 2 (01:19:36):
Okay, well, there you have it. But my last question,
my last question for you is this. The episode ends
with Marie's calling you a liar and that's what you do.
Did that hurt your feelings hearing that.

Speaker 11 (01:19:56):
Carlos, Yeah, it did it did. Because here here's the thing.
The one reason why I don't lie is because it
makes me feel like a coward, like who are you
that I have to lie to?

Speaker 7 (01:20:11):
Right?

Speaker 6 (01:20:11):
And so I said this in the comments and different things.
I said, Okay, do me a favor point out the lie.
If I've lie, I'm a liar and I'm always liing.

Speaker 11 (01:20:25):
This name one lie that you've ever heard, Like Watissa said,
to give me no, I've never caught him in a lie.

Speaker 6 (01:20:32):
And she's like, what, you've never got to your husband
in a lie in twenty years? Never ever? And people
and they say, well, and some people aren't liars. That's
just not my thing, all right, because it makes me
feel like it makes me feel like a like a whimp,
like like we to have.

Speaker 11 (01:20:51):
To sit here and tell you something that it's not true.
It makes me feel like I'm not good enough. So yeah,
I don't I don't like that.

Speaker 6 (01:21:00):
And he said, you lie about everything. We stopped.

Speaker 11 (01:21:02):
You know, I don't lie right like Stopy and you
get but but now, of course when re sais you
lie about everything. Now everyone's in the in the world
is like, okay, reason's bothers filled the things.

Speaker 1 (01:21:20):
You come up with this ship, bro, all right, Mark,
So if I'll let you go, there's one question that
we get from our super chants This one is directed
towards you, and I'm a life for you to answer it.
This is from DJ Lesia, who said the huspital streets
are saying that black is the headquarters for the cheating husbands.

Speaker 2 (01:21:42):
But I love Marcel, he's a dub guy.

Speaker 1 (01:21:45):
It's black the headquarters for husbands who are cheating, otherwise
to go to and have fun.

Speaker 6 (01:21:52):
Carlos, I don't, I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:21:54):
I don't know.

Speaker 11 (01:21:54):
I think that blackness a great place to come in
here and smoke cigars and fellowship and hang around.

Speaker 6 (01:21:59):
I mean, I don't, I don't know those the headquarters
for cheating husbands. That that's.

Speaker 4 (01:22:06):
Husbands hang out day like that.

Speaker 15 (01:22:11):
You know, ship cheated, the husbands unite, They're gonna form
boat tron over here.

Speaker 6 (01:22:19):
They're gonna buy crying or something like like what do
they do damn head quarters from cheaping husband.

Speaker 4 (01:22:25):
I mean, that's most of the guard bars of that.

Speaker 2 (01:22:28):
But ladies, if your husbands say he's going to the
d R, that's fine. But if your husband's saying that
a boys are black, watch out now.

Speaker 11 (01:22:38):
Watch out, watch out now, Carlos. I appreciate you having
me on man, We just I do want to do
the same as plugging about me being a terrible You know,
I've been a terrible dad for since season one, right.

Speaker 2 (01:22:53):
I know, I know, rolland Martin even called you out
season one.

Speaker 6 (01:22:59):
He's a terrible day. It's because you know, my son
had allergies. But now we me and him. I just
taking him for a trip to uh to see the
Kensler Lamar in Rome.

Speaker 7 (01:23:09):
So dope. That's dope as hell, Mark.

Speaker 6 (01:23:12):
So yeah, we got a chance to go there.

Speaker 11 (01:23:15):
He of course he wanted to see the Pantheon, and
we've got a chance to go up to Paderba to
see the original boundary of talking to the bottle.

Speaker 6 (01:23:24):
We talked and everything. So it's been a really, really,
really good trip.

Speaker 5 (01:23:28):
Man.

Speaker 6 (01:23:29):
We went to Greece too, No no, no, no, Pantheon,
not the Parthenon.

Speaker 4 (01:23:34):
Okay, gotcha.

Speaker 15 (01:23:36):
I had to google at it too, because I was like,
I thought we were going to the Parthonon and I
was like, bro, it's it's it's seventeen hours away, and
it's like, okay, now it's the Pantheon, but it's it's
it's just amazing.

Speaker 6 (01:23:48):
It was a dope trip, man, So I feel real
good about that. Coming back in and so.

Speaker 7 (01:23:54):
You go see where they make the wine. You go
see what they make the wine.

Speaker 6 (01:23:59):
I I think I know where they make that.

Speaker 14 (01:24:03):
Okay, you are really a story and he really is.
I'd be like, oh gosh, that's the Qualitia. That's Martel
holds wine that.

Speaker 2 (01:24:22):
Oh gotcha, that's what that was. That's what that was.

Speaker 1 (01:24:24):
But no, but Marcel, listen, thanks for taking time out.
Marcel just got back from Italy. He took his son
on a father son trip. As he just said, so listen,
you are a great man. You are a great father,
and you are a great reality star. And listen, your
great husband too. So I appreciate you, Marcel, and I
will see you soon. Thanks for coming, Marshall, taking Marcel.

Speaker 4 (01:24:51):
He clicked off. Fancy make sure we and the Wi
Fi the glass was more full.

Speaker 6 (01:25:04):
See that.

Speaker 4 (01:25:07):
I'm not mad at I need something for today's shoot.

Speaker 7 (01:25:10):
Yo.

Speaker 1 (01:25:11):
No, but listen, thanks for calling. You'll know you're going
through a lot this week. Thanks for even showing up.

Speaker 2 (01:25:15):
Thanks to do this. Now listen, I hope we were
able to distract you at least for.

Speaker 1 (01:25:22):
Ninety minutes and put us smile on your face and
keep us updating all things Shelley.

Speaker 4 (01:25:28):
Yes, I will thank you a pleasure.

Speaker 1 (01:25:31):
As always, Reality with the King is executive produced by
me Carlos King, produced by Lizzie Nimitz, and a partnership
with the Lack Effect Network. You can also find us
on my YouTube channel at the Carlos King Underscore

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