DASHing Into Drama: Kanye vs. Kris

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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Reality with the King is hosted by me, Carlos King.
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Speaker 2 (00:36):
Okay, all right, now we have a lot to talk
about tonight. Let's bring on Justin and Claudia. George, how's
it going about? You got your mouth full? What are
you eating?

Speaker 3 (00:49):
Apple? Chris? So good? They have to give my food
in early because I want inimittent fashonisode. I can't eat
for like sixteen hours, So yeah.

Speaker 4 (00:58):
Hi will never worked for me.

Speaker 5 (01:00):
I can't have all that that regimented that heregimented eating
schedule like that.

Speaker 4 (01:04):
I can't do it.

Speaker 5 (01:06):
I can't fast, I can only slow, so I can't
do it.

Speaker 4 (01:10):
Sorry, but good luck to you though, Claudia.

Speaker 5 (01:13):
You're good at that kind of stuff, those diets, and
you're disciplined in that way.

Speaker 3 (01:18):
I've done twelve miles and three days. The first night
I went twenty hours without eating straight and I just
dropped four pounds from that drop. Yeah, and then today
would be look good and you look very tanned. It's
so hot out here in Texas. Likes being on these walks,
and I get like brown. I love it at the

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brown of the beat for me?

Speaker 2 (01:39):
Hey, you look great? So how much y'all? Weekend? Dustin?
What or who did you do this weekend?

Speaker 4 (01:45):
Had a great weekend?

Speaker 1 (01:46):
Man?

Speaker 5 (01:46):
I was working this weekend, So I had a good
weekend working on some new stuff coming. It's gonna be
a good Q four for me. Good twenty twenty six
for me. God is good. So I've just been focused,
you know, I've been a grown ass man lately and
just been kind of staying focused on all of my business.

Speaker 4 (02:03):
And so yeah, that's what I did this weekend.

Speaker 1 (02:07):
Are you not focused on like dating anymore? Is that
a back burner to you? Focusing on your flourishing and
amazing career?

Speaker 5 (02:16):
Well, you know, I never really we don't really have
to put too much into that. Well, at least I
don't believe in pretty too much effort in it. I
think that that's something like for me personally, this is
just me, this is my thing, the way that I
do it. I like for my dating experience to be
very organic, very organic.

Speaker 4 (02:33):
I don't want to I want to partner. I'm looking
for somebody. That's your hell tho.

Speaker 5 (02:37):
I just want to meet somebody and become smitten, fall
in love, falling whatever.

Speaker 4 (02:42):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (02:43):
I wanted to happen that way, so I've never that
never was my focus.

Speaker 2 (02:51):
Okay, Claudia, what do you think about that? Your Ari's brother?

Speaker 3 (02:55):
Are you what he's saying? Not how to force a
round peg into a square hole?

Speaker 4 (03:00):
And yes, they happened.

Speaker 2 (03:01):
I know I tried that plenty of nights. It doesn't work.

Speaker 6 (03:04):
You got to go with the whole lecture equipped to fill.
You know what I'm saying, I don't know that.

Speaker 3 (03:16):
I want to be organic. I don't want to force.
I don't want to have to be like nonsalose asked
like you didn't call me back. I don't want you
to like be just excited about me. I am about you.
And she didn't have to feel too hard. It shouldn't
be too much work. I want to be fun and
light and eerie and uh and you know, I don't know.

Speaker 4 (03:34):
Just normal, you know what I'm saying. Normal.

Speaker 3 (03:37):
I love that online when people try to figure it out,
like they always be like you ain't gotten you kicked.
I'm like, I got married without y'all though, Like when
I do, I do, and when I don't, I don't
and y'all can and I'll open here just glowing and
you're worried about it. I don't know, but yeah, I
love that for you.

Speaker 4 (03:57):
Thank you too.

Speaker 1 (03:59):
I do too, like the organic the way like my
green apples.

Speaker 2 (04:03):
So look, I will say this up before you.

Speaker 3 (04:06):
Asked you what ain that's all you was trying to
just I was about to ask you what we used
to think about the texting with? What what's up with African?

Speaker 5 (04:13):
Right you've been on Wesif you was texting African, you were.

Speaker 2 (04:19):
Mortgage that needs to be paid for off teething. No,
the pig, I'm actually joking now, the pig. Listen.

Speaker 1 (04:29):
I don't have too many exes because I've I am
a relationship person.

Speaker 2 (04:35):
Yes, why we know. I love Qualitia not too much.

Speaker 1 (04:39):
I love being in a relationship with somebody that's worthy.
I don't I'm not like Lisa hostein off of Miami Housewives.

Speaker 2 (04:48):
Are you happy, Nathan, I'm talking about housewives.

Speaker 1 (04:50):
I'm not like Lisa Hoston on Miami Housewives, who got
divorced after thirteen years in November and a week later
told her boyfriend to marry her like she wants to
get married.

Speaker 2 (05:04):
I'm like, calm down a bit. So I'm not like that.

Speaker 1 (05:08):
So me and my African were still friends. It wasn't
a bad breakup. Nothing crazy happened. I don't have bad breakups.

Speaker 7 (05:15):
You know.

Speaker 2 (05:15):
I'm a girl ass.

Speaker 1 (05:16):
Man and clearly as a journalist, Hey poortscha, I am
a great communicator.

Speaker 2 (05:21):
So even of my you know.

Speaker 1 (05:25):
I only have one x though, because the guy, my
first boyfriend I had.

Speaker 2 (05:30):
I was nineteen. That don't count and it doesn't count.

Speaker 1 (05:34):
And we only dated for two months and he dunked
me via email two days before Valentine's Day.

Speaker 5 (05:41):
Fash Yeah, or you can be thankful. I'd be like,
I'm going in two days somebody else?

Speaker 2 (05:50):
Well, no, Dustin, I was a square in the peg hole,
so I had no back. Wow.

Speaker 3 (05:58):
I can't wait for the day where all three of us,
like the planets are in alignment, and all three of
us have to someone. It doesn't have to be a
boy Brian or a husband or whatever. It could be
just a friend. It could be a little nice little
piece of something that we have. Yeah, that where we
could just go on like a couple's trips. You know,
I think that's diff you. I love doing double and

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triple dates. I loved doing stuff like that. You know.
It wasn't your whole town calls. I was in Detroit
over on Friday, meaning all.

Speaker 2 (06:29):
It looked amazing, by the way, thank you.

Speaker 3 (06:32):
It was a dinner for a friend Gray, and he's
like the mayor out there, and it was like beautiful,
very upscales beautiful. We had so much that I did
an edible mushroom. I was told it was a low dose.
I won't say which one of my girls gave me,
but I just played our name on that.

Speaker 2 (06:48):
I'm like that. God damn.

Speaker 3 (06:51):
I was laughing at everything, and I was also like
cook receptive of everything. I could not stop laughing. But
it also tried to do the Tama dance on it,
and from bumper cars out there, me and Annie was
poliiting with everybody and going the wrong way the mix.
I was definitely mixing. I was like, no, I'm black.

Speaker 5 (07:11):
Already turning around them, directional changes and ship all that
the first part.

Speaker 3 (07:16):
In a minute, and then turning around and then not
knowing where it's supposed to be. It was hilarious. But
how they take time? And I didn't go on some
bare crop?

Speaker 5 (07:28):
Oh really, you didn't play that was gonna be My
next question is if you got on the tables or
you were there?

Speaker 4 (07:34):
Yeah, good girl, No.

Speaker 2 (07:36):
You look good. You look good. You look good. So
one thing we have to get into is it's a
lot going on.

Speaker 1 (07:42):
That's the Claudia NB Street. So are you all ready
for shot topics? You know it all right, So get
your shot, rain drops, get your shot. Make sure you
guys are not driving, okay, so do not drinking?

Speaker 2 (07:54):
Drive rain drops? So we got our shots.

Speaker 1 (07:57):
Dustin has his hand, doog, I got my ginger, Clauda,
you have what I have?

Speaker 3 (08:02):
Some rum and sublimentally lemonade.

Speaker 2 (08:06):
All right, so hot, wait shot topic up the date?

Speaker 4 (08:10):
Go that's the ginger with me? Your ass?

Speaker 1 (08:19):
It is this throw but it used to be goodness gracious.

Speaker 2 (08:23):
Well, if I want to get you a drunk, I
don't drink.

Speaker 3 (08:27):
That's why I want to get drunk with that. I
want to be your.

Speaker 8 (08:29):
First Oh well, swallow, Carlos swallow, have you ever been solown?

Speaker 7 (08:40):
Trust me, Claudia, I could teach a class on being
a swallow ologist, Claudia Dursologist.

Speaker 1 (08:53):
Yes, we have one on love and marriage DC wow
shout out to a rain of college.

Speaker 4 (08:58):
Today's her birthday, Happy birthday, Arena.

Speaker 3 (09:03):
Yeah, and I'm gonna see them. Folks love her?

Speaker 4 (09:08):
Oh good good.

Speaker 1 (09:10):
So first thing, first, Ray drops Claudia and Dustin. We
have to talk about the shot topic of the evening.

Speaker 2 (09:17):
We have several more to go to, but the first
one is this.

Speaker 1 (09:21):
Jocelyn Hernandez was on a recent episode.

Speaker 2 (09:26):
Of Angela Yee's Lip Service.

Speaker 1 (09:30):
Angela Yee asked her about what's going on between Yandy
and Rasheeda on Love and Hip Hop Atlanta. During this episode,
Jocelyn said she didn't like the fact that these two
ladies were arguing over men who she felt did them
both wrong individually. She also made a very bold statement,

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saying that she believed it is time for Rasheeda and
Yandy to retire from Love and Hip Hop. She felt
they've been on the show for too long and she
felt that there's more things they need to be doing
versus fighting on that show, and they need to graduate
from it.

Speaker 2 (10:13):
Claudia Jordan, what are your thoughts on that?

Speaker 1 (10:15):
Do you think it's time for Yandy and by Shida
to retire from Love and Hip Hop?

Speaker 3 (10:20):
No, and Jocelyn stopped, Like, Jocelyn, I know you're not
talking well people fighting.

Speaker 4 (10:24):
Listen.

Speaker 3 (10:25):
We can admit that you have involved in some regards,
but you do also hold a show where you fully
women all day long, and there's a lot of violence
that happens on Johnson's Cabaret. And yes, we can say
elevated in some regards, but in some regards you haven't.
So it's just I think it's more the messenger like
saying that a should quit Love and Hip Hop, and
you know she's it's kind of like hard for her

(10:46):
to like to take the message from her and at
this point, like that's kind of like their brand now.
I don't know. To me, I think the messenger is
messing me up with this one. I'm just like, yeah,
if I'm being honest with you, it's hard for me
to be like to kind of take that seriously, like,
but you but it's like if I've got on here
and it was like you, you guys, it's not becoming

(11:09):
a YouTube to curse and gamble. You really shouldn't. Claudia,
where were you in this weekend? In veg is getting
fucked up and playing craps, you know, kind of like that.
So I don't know that's maybe they do. I don't know.
I just only it's her place to say that because
they're kind of all in the same boat, and her
talking about them fighting over man when you meet me

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and see me Jay, it look like a huge thing.
That's why we know you. I think where it's kind
of like, if anything, they should all be able to
relate to each other more. Jocelyn should actually be a
little bit more understanding about the position that they're in
because she was in that position. She was in that
position where she was, you know, kind of made to
look away like kind of fussing and fighting over me.
And I think it happens almost all the women on

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reality TV for some reason. I don't know, but I
don't know. It depends on the fantas of the fans.
Are stick of the Andy and Rashidas, then yes, if
they're not he clutching that shock, oh get their own platform. Well,
it's not for everybody, Like I think Jocelyn was very
blessed and lucky. You know, at the time when Zeus
was building their network, they were getting cast off SEB
stars from BH one, you know, like they actually were

(12:15):
recycling people that were let go from b H one
and and it was a very brilliant business plan, really
blew up the network. I don't think everyone gets those
opportunities that like joshun really the stars blind the farst're lucky.

Speaker 5 (12:28):
Well, I think that's the thing that was a dig.
That was a personal dig for her. It was a
personal matter. We all we all remember Jocelyn's exit from
Love and Hip Hop Atlanta when.

Speaker 4 (12:38):
She was sitting in the back.

Speaker 5 (12:39):
It's the picture they used when they put her in
the car with Biggie and Tupac on that picture when
they when they put her in or Biggie who was
in the car and that picture and Bake in that
car and they put Johnson in the back because remember
she was like got him sky, Jesus, KT is gonna
have to come down here and tell me this cop.

Speaker 4 (12:58):

Speaker 5 (12:59):
We remember her ex and everybody that she has had
a like a beef with from Love and Hit. Let's
zoom out and call the shit what it really is, Right,
Jocelyn is one of the only people that has been
able to go to depart from the love and hip
Hop universe and have legitimate success independent of that.

Speaker 4 (13:18):
She never really even wants.

Speaker 5 (13:20):
To be associated with the love and hip hop world
until you're talking about somebody that she had beef with.
So I think that them and Yandy called astray because
we all know Yandy was super close with Mona Scott Young.
Jocelyn and Mona didn't really have the best exit their
separation at the end of that season.

Speaker 4 (13:35):
Joscelyn and Rashida have beef before.

Speaker 5 (13:37):
She's going on to see success and depending on Love
and hip Hop and Rashida in them are still continuing
to see success, but on that cast. And so I
think that that was just a dig, Like, haha, I
got out. Y'all still over there. Y'all definitely need to
retire and move on, and I'll put some new people
in position because.

Speaker 4 (13:53):
We sick of seeing y'all. It was a personal dig,
that's all it was.

Speaker 1 (13:58):
Yeah, And look, I'll say this, I don't see anything
wrong with Rashida and Yandy continuing to be on Love
and Hip Hop. I think in this landscape, it's what
you said, Dustin and to Claudia. Look, Joscelyne was able,
which is very rare, right, and she deserves all the
props that she does receive, which is she did quit

(14:19):
Love and Hip Hoop.

Speaker 2 (14:20):
She left the show.

Speaker 4 (14:21):
She quit.

Speaker 2 (14:24):
He did exactly what Dustin said.

Speaker 1 (14:25):
She stormed out of a reunion and said that God
himself would have to come down here to give me
to come back on Love and Hip Hop. And she
got driven off in her suv and she never and
she left and then did jo Justine Cabaret, and she
also came back to make appearances in Miami maybe two

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years later. And what she also said the interview when
Angela Ye asked her if she would ever go back
to Love and Hip Hop, Joscelene said, yes, for a
couple of dollars, I'll make an appearance here and there.
So she has no desire to go there full time.
And listen, she has graduated from it and she's.

Speaker 2 (15:03):
Doing extremely well.

Speaker 1 (15:05):
Shut out to jos Len, I think when it comes
to Rashida and Yandy particularly, look, those women have benefited
from being on the show.

Speaker 2 (15:14):
We all have benefited from being on the show a.

Speaker 1 (15:16):
Part of it, and I think no one can say
when it's their time to leave. I look at someone
like Kyle Richards who is still on Bibley Hill's Housewives.
She's the lasting og on that particular franchise and she's
making it work for her.

Speaker 2 (15:31):
She has NBC scripted deals.

Speaker 1 (15:34):
When it comes to Rasheena and Kirk, look, a lot
of people make fun of Rasheeda and Kirk, but they
are making lots of money doing the show. They open
up a restaurant, Frost Free Strow, They're able to really
monetize from that same thing. But Yandy, Yandy has a
skin carry out line called Yellow Skin, and Yandy, who
started from the New York Days, has graduated to being

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a part of Atlanta and it's working for her. So
I think it's one of those things where it may
not work for a lot of other people, but it's
working for them.

Speaker 2 (16:03):
And look, I will say this much, I would love to.

Speaker 1 (16:05):
See Mimi Foules back on Love and Hip Hopolanta because
I just think Mimi still has a story that needs
to be told. I'm and I'm and I could see.
This is my opinion, rain drops, so listen up. I
would love to see Mimi Foules in a Cynthia Bailey
roll on love and hip Hopolanta, somebody that comes in

(16:27):
like this, sort of like dim Mother, because one thing
about Mimi when it comes to her position with the
y Andy and Rashiitah, for example, she's never had beef
with any of them.

Speaker 2 (16:37):
And I think.

Speaker 1 (16:37):
Mimi, outside of this DBJ and joce Lene's stuff and
her altercation for Kate Michelle, I think Mimi has a
does a great job at being a friend and does
a great job at being the voice of reason when
she's put in those positions.

Speaker 2 (16:53):
So I want Mimi to come back.

Speaker 3 (16:56):
I think that would have been right great for her
for a long time. But it's not happening because I'm
the EP of a new show that she's about to
do a call cleaning up my life, and that's gonna
be meet me shows, that's drop the Bond, It's gonna
be awesome and yeah, it'll be out same. We've been

(17:20):
working on this, We've been shooting quietly and it's definitely
me me making amends and things big, same things, cleaning
up things playing on the whole made thing.

Speaker 4 (17:29):
Yeah, yeah, there's.

Speaker 2 (17:32):
A call made and me me, it made ID like
Bade in Manhattan cleaning.

Speaker 3 (17:37):
Up my life and she's holding up room like a
little feather brush duster. It's very cute, but I think
it'd be better crowd and I would love for that
to happen, and and then all for love for love
and hip hop to bring her back because one thing
that uh, you know, it's in a front rook like
you said, I think it's I think she should she's
like now she's more in a not an elder role,

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but she's an old being now right.

Speaker 2 (17:59):
And she has wisdom just wis them.

Speaker 3 (18:02):
She has an interesting life. That's been my girlfriend many
years and that we've had many heartfelt, peerful conversations about life.
And I'm like, yo, you got we gotta get you
back on top. Made a few calls, the production company
worked it out, got some things going fully like like
it's been it's it's I can't wait for y'all to
see it, and congratulations, Yeah you need to come back

(18:26):
without the drama and then ease back in cause I
think for her soul, you know, she felt like I'm
loving hip hop She's like, when is it my turn
to ever have a win? Like sometimes you don't need
to hear that, Like when why do I always have
to look to be made to look stupid? Show my wins?
And he needs that. So I'm very very happy for her.
A skink Caroline Ola Raymi, super nice stuff. We'll be

(18:47):
having an event for that too, so we'll tell me.

Speaker 1 (18:49):
Yes, oh yes, go ahead, Claudiayat, get her bag, Jordia, yeah.

Speaker 2 (18:55):
Clock all but Teas, I love it, love it, love it,
love it, love it, love it, love it. So so
that's really good.

Speaker 1 (19:00):
And look, speaking of Love and hip Hop, we have
to talk about somebody else who graduated from that show
and is doing very well, and that.

Speaker 2 (19:08):
Is Cardi B. Cardi B see rain Dross.

Speaker 1 (19:12):
We talk about things in the reality world and Cardi
B fitz sis see how we do that here? Okay,
So Cardi B dropped her much anticipated sophomore album called
am I The Drama. As we all know, Cardi B
did two seasons of Love and Hip Hop New York.

Speaker 2 (19:32):
She once again graduated from that.

Speaker 1 (19:35):
She only did two seasons and her debut album is
Diamond Invasion of Privacy and she's had multiple success, multiple
endorsement deals, and now she has dropped her album. Before
I get into the topic of the day, Dustin, you
tweeted over the weekend. I was watching your tweets.

Speaker 2 (19:53):
What are your thoughts on Carti's album? Am I the Drama?

Speaker 4 (19:57):
I love it? I love it.

Speaker 5 (20:00):
Everybody knows I love rap music in general, so I
approached it from that way.

Speaker 4 (20:04):
I'm just ready to enjoy her unique spin and take
on New York rap.

Speaker 5 (20:09):
And I was impressed start to finish, like I love
the whole album, my favorite songs, I love Dead, the
album intro. I really loved her album Intro and Invasion
of Privacy called Get Up ten, so I was looking
forward to that moment.

Speaker 4 (20:22):
Totally satisfying. She's popping our shit all.

Speaker 5 (20:26):
Over the album, very braggadocious, very lifestyle rap, very like
just it just makes you feel good. It makes you
feel like New York City. I love Shit Principle. The
song is Sample's Pleasure Principle by Janney Jackson. That's a
great hit. I Love better than You, I Love on

(20:46):
My Back, I love Salute. She's dropping like the Migos
on Salute. She's got that Migos flow on that song.
Is great. I'm thoroughly, thoroughly impressed with the album. Thoroughly.

Speaker 4 (20:56):
I enjoyed it, Yepania.

Speaker 2 (21:00):
Did you take a looking to it?

Speaker 3 (21:02):
Not all of it, but the songs I have heard
I love. I already use one of her songs on
my Instagram page, magnant. I love that song and know
really love about her the evolution. You know, she was
talking about what a couple of years ago wed ass.
I know, I can't say it, but then she went
from that to making a song about I don't need
a rich guy, I need a man to make me

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feel safe. It's so good for women to hear that,
because she was one of the girls out there talking
with her koochie and money and getting stuff like that.
And that's fine if some artists stay in that pocket
for a long time. After a while, it's like, okay,
what's next. I love the Evolution, And now she's talking
about she wants a man to make her feel safe.
She doesn't need a man from money. She is the

(21:46):
man with money in a relationship at this point, right
out right off set, so you know she's got it.
So I just feel like I loved it. The people
that are saying that this album the flop. Stop being
a hater and you can sup from all the one woman.
At the same time, I think we should support all
the women that are in hip hop, all the rap
girlies that are out there. The album broke records on

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the first day. Yeah, I believe it's all you know,
it's already.

Speaker 4 (22:11):
Diamond, already platinum, st platinum.

Speaker 3 (22:14):
Already platinum, will be diamond like she people waiting for
a long time, the most successful persons for love and
hip hop. You know, a lot of women wanted to
be in that position. She did her thing her like,
she went on there did need to be done, established herself,
got people to know more about her personality and blew

(22:34):
the hell up. We last have that much fame in
brand deals from one album seven years ago. This is
the second album she got dropped colt with singles features
the Women, stays busy in books and I love her
humble attitude. I think she's so likable because she talks
about her failures as well, like she's not trying to
be flawless. She's like up or you know. I think

(22:58):
her personality is what sells all her music. It's just
so fun to listen.

Speaker 4 (23:02):
To did you listen, Carlos, I did so listen.

Speaker 2 (23:06):
I have to finish it, but so far, so good. Listen.

Speaker 1 (23:08):
I'm like Claudia and you dustn't. Everybody knows that I
love the girls. I love thema rappers. I am one
of those people who listen to everybody. My the song
I like the most so far.

Speaker 5 (23:21):
Is Magnet Magnet Baby.

Speaker 4 (23:26):
Yeah that's the ship, yes, Magnet.

Speaker 1 (23:29):
So the thing is this, I will say this much.
One thing that I do want to talk about is
the fact that we should not be.

Speaker 2 (23:36):
Putting people against each other.

Speaker 1 (23:38):
Everybody knows I am the biggest Nicki Minaj fan in
the entire world. I am a certified barb and I
love it here. But that doesn't mean I can't listen
to Cardi, B, Lotto, JT, Foxy because I grew up.

Speaker 2 (23:53):
You know, y'all know I'm older.

Speaker 1 (23:55):
I grew up with Kim versus Foxy and it was
a fun thing to listen to both women's records and
have a fun debate.

Speaker 2 (24:04):
And I want people to get back to having.

Speaker 1 (24:06):
Fun debates and make the debate fun because to me,
that's the essence of hip hop is when you can
say let's go bar to bar in terms of a
body of work, because in order for you to sort
of really go hard for your fab it is important
to know the music so that you're able to challenge

(24:26):
an educated thought on it.

Speaker 2 (24:27):
So I think let's get back to having fun debates.

Speaker 1 (24:30):
I don't want people to get caught up in a
divide which brings me to.

Speaker 4 (24:34):
A a dozen.

Speaker 5 (24:35):
No, I'm just I'm not talking to nobody who is
not a fan of rap music about Carti's album. I'm
not if you're only interested in it because of this
competitive dynamic that the fans have introduced, and you're only
interested in it because of that, we don't have shit
to talk about. If you're not a rap music purist,
if you're not a person who listens to hip hop,
I personally do your thing, fight and argue in the

(24:58):
spider with corners of the internet. I don't give a fuck.
But just I'm not talking to you about the album.
You understand what I'm saying. I'm not wasting my time
going back and forth. There's nothing for me to debate about.
I don't have a personal stake. I ain't produce nothing.
I'm not I don't have no points on none of
these records. It's not personal for me. So if you're
interested in simply that competitive dialogue that fans stand war bullshit,

(25:22):
talk to somebody else, because I don't have time for it.
I want to stick to the music. I want to
be able to enjoy the music. You should like whatever
you like and be able to listen to whatever you
want to listen to.

Speaker 4 (25:35):
Yeah, I don't even your life.

Speaker 3 (25:38):
If you loudly say I like party like that somehow
is a dig at the DIGI. It's not like you
can independently like someone asks. Nothing is not a dig
at the other one. Get what y'all you have? Even
like both mag that.

Speaker 4 (25:52):
It's music.

Speaker 1 (25:54):
It's yeah, I agree, you can like you can like both.
This is reality with the King and I'm Carlos King.
Let's get back into the show.

Speaker 2 (26:06):
This is Carlos King's opinion.

Speaker 1 (26:09):
I really want people to get back to having these
fun debates because I just remember growing up where it
was fun to debate Janet Jackson Madonna, like, we have
fun doing that.

Speaker 2 (26:18):
We have fun.

Speaker 1 (26:18):
Like I said, with Kim and Foxy, we have fun
with Brandy Monica.

Speaker 3 (26:23):
Together one time because she was hating on Kim way
too hard until I got out the comments and then
she got in my inbox.

Speaker 4 (26:28):
I was like, this, do you I remember that? I
remember that she was not.

Speaker 2 (26:32):
Too much not too much on inga Claudia or.

Speaker 3 (26:37):
I used to like Foxing, And I'm like, why are
you hating on Kim soar? Y'all from the same genre.
Y'all sit love each other. So now sorry, I like it.

Speaker 2 (26:45):
But I will another.

Speaker 1 (26:46):
But I will say this, I I listen. I always
looked at Kim and Foxy as they were competitive and
it was never dirty.

Speaker 4 (26:56):
You have nothing to do with it, or so mad the.

Speaker 3 (27:01):
Girl like knocking off boxing. Y'allhould be collabing right now
on the tom join the cruise, like where we going?

Speaker 2 (27:06):
Not too much inga Claudia.

Speaker 3 (27:09):
Look banished to her fighting. She was fighting on the
nail flop, not that she was doing.

Speaker 2 (27:18):
We all had bad days, Claudia Jordan's anyway.

Speaker 9 (27:23):
People college, they said seven thirty, They say she SPADs
out Silas album.

Speaker 2 (27:33):
Dustin Hey, the home of Bigie and j all Right,
I love him, I love the girls, so listen. I
do want to talk about this.

Speaker 1 (27:44):
Though it was a big conversation and controversy on Twitter.
Dustin I'm pretty sure you saw it. Your friends, Dustin
with the host of the Read right, Sorry, that's.

Speaker 2 (28:00):
It, Free.

Speaker 4 (28:02):
And Crystal and Crystal Claudia.

Speaker 2 (28:05):
I'm not sure you saw this.

Speaker 1 (28:08):
Okay, So so the rain drop just so you know,
and let me put on my readers because Cristal had
a lot to say about Cardi and I want to
get yourll thoughts on this, so we all know, claw
My Claudia, Lord Jesus Carti is pregnant.

Speaker 2 (28:26):
Claudia, is you want to tell me?

Speaker 1 (28:27):
Carti is pregnant with her four child by her boyfriend
Stefan Diggs. We we're not sure how many months she is,
but she also announced that she is going on tour soon.
So Chris is Crystal right, Dustin, Crystal?

Speaker 4 (28:46):
Yeah, Crystal, OK.

Speaker 2 (28:48):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (28:50):
Crystal had a lot to say on the Read podcast
and this is what she had to say. I'll give
you guys the cliff notes. She talked about how it's
not just money. You also need parents who are very
mindful and deliberate about bringing you into the world and
choosing to guide you into adulthood.

Speaker 2 (29:11):
That is how we raise decent, good people.

Speaker 1 (29:14):
She continued that your mama out here giving her pussy
to whoever the fuck she wants to and keeping whatever
y'all drop off and her fucking uterus is crazy. I
was expecting so much more out of Cardi B, because
you are not just some broke board bitch in the
Bronx who don't got shit else to do.

Speaker 2 (29:35):
And she went on and on and on.

Speaker 1 (29:37):
Cardi B responded on a Twitter spasis and pretty much
said that look, it's her body, she could do what
she wants to with it. She really didn't go off
on Cristal, but she pretty much just said like she
loves being a mom, this is what she wanted to do,
and that nobody's going to stop her from doing that.

Speaker 2 (29:56):
Dustin, what are your thoughts on all of that?

Speaker 1 (29:58):
Do you think Christal went to a lot of people
said she did based on the fact that she has
a degree in mental health counseling.

Speaker 5 (30:08):
I believe, okay, right, she's not. She's not a licensed therapist,
she's not a practice. She's not a practice, but she is.
She did do the coursework, the courses of study, and
she graduated. I think that The Read is a show
that has seen success for many many years. It was
it is excuse me a trend setting podcast. I think
that they've done a lot of firsts. They kind of

(30:30):
set the tone when it comes to several things that
are popularized in podcasting today. And people love Crystal and
Kid Fury for their strong opinions, and I think that
this was par for the course when it comes to
their discourse on the show she had just finished. In
that same episode, speaking directly to Nick Cannon's serial Fatherhood

(30:51):
Cam Newton. She spoke to a few other people and
the clip that's getting the most attention right now is
the one where she was discussing Cardi b And again,
strong opinions are what people have grown to love about
the read. I think that she had a polarizing take
that a lot of people were interested in, and I
think that it has stirred up a big conversation. So

(31:13):
kudos to her. I was with her earlier today. I
love her like family. And one thing that y'all know
is that I'm never gonna go against my people. This
is not a situation where you have to take sides.
But if anybody thought I was finna sit up here
and talk shit about my girl, you have me completely
fucked up. So I love my friend that's like my
sister with family. And she said what she said, and

(31:35):
I think that it's great that it incited people to
have a dialogue that can explore themes in motherhood and
women working and having a career and balancing those things
that are very real issues and concerns in the world.

Speaker 4 (31:47):
And I'm glad that it sparked that discourse.

Speaker 5 (31:50):
And I think that there will be people who agree
people who disagree with her take, just like people agree
and disagree with the things that I say on this
show on Monday nights.

Speaker 4 (31:58):
And I think it.

Speaker 5 (31:59):
Was cool that she was brave enough to share her opinion.
And I think that if you're unfamiliar with the read
and the way that the Whosts speak about topics, then
that may come off a little bit more brash and
harsh than maybe people who are familiar with the tone
of that show and the tone of their comedy on
that show. And so I encourage everybody to go listen,

(32:20):
turn up to read.

Speaker 4 (32:22):
That's what I have to say.

Speaker 2 (32:24):
Claudia Jordan, Well, I'm not.

Speaker 3 (32:27):
Familiar with their show. I haven't I haven't seen before,
so I saw it clipped Safeler first time. And because
she's your friend. Of course I'll be respectful of her,
but she was very out of line with the tone.
You can still say the same thing without calling CARDI
somebody bitches and her fucking uterus and this, that and
the third, especially as a woman like Listen, it ain't
once she's out here being a force skrew and everybody

(32:48):
she was with the same man for a very long time.
He cheated on her, relentlessly embarrassed her. When she stayed
with them, she got criticized. When she leaves and moves
on and she gets criticized, Yes, what I would I
have wanted her to wait her baby, Yes, but guess what, y'all,
her uterus is not mine uterus, and if that's what
she wants to do, then that's what she should do.

(33:10):
And I feel like people, just like when they worry
about gay marriage and abortions and who is with who,
are just way too involved. There's a way to do
commentary without taking a sole personally. Now, I've even been
jilty of about myself, and I'll be the first and
say if I've had some past issues with someone, I
definitely will still take me further. But I don't believe
there's a thing with Bristol and Cardi B that I

(33:31):
know of, but I just felt, yeah, I just wish
because from what you're saying, she sounds like a wonderful
person that she would have said it in a way
that wasn't such an attack on Cardi and business and
bits that I was like, oh, like, it seemed like
she was really invested in Carby. Well, I may agree
with Damn. I almost thinks about Curdi and she gets Claudia,

(33:52):
I don't know you like that. I mentioned a couple
of times things that your goddamn business.

Speaker 2 (33:54):
What I do?

Speaker 3 (33:55):
I wish and if I had a saying, which I don't,
it's not my life, it's actually Cardi B's life. I
would have loved her to break off from Car's offset,
have fun, really be outside for a little while, enjoy dating,
have exting, divorce because at the end of the day,
no matter what he did, he can't say that you
was out there, right. And I do think she wited
she was separated. I don't think she and her husband

(34:15):
they were separated, but it would have been nice so
less criticism. But it's just funny how she gets so
many shots with Offset. Is the one that destroyed this
marriage now, CARDI b mes with step on days, which
is the way I from was back. So I just
wish it was a little more. You know, let me
give you some advice instead of just calling her so
many bitches.

Speaker 4 (34:34):
I think you would actually liked the podcast.

Speaker 5 (34:36):
And I think you should listen to a couple episodes
of the read because it's actually.

Speaker 4 (34:40):
On par with the kind of.

Speaker 5 (34:43):
Direct takes that you and I share and that we
have on this show that people will clip and then
frame me as a potty mouth, you know, bitch or
whatever they say about me in the comments and frame
you as all the things that they say. Well, you
know what I'm saying. But as far as like the
way that we like Edgy, you know, straightforward direct humor,

(35:03):
like off the cuff, I think you would actually really
enjoy the show. So that would be my only thing.
I just encourage you to listen. You know what I'm saying.
If they talk just like.

Speaker 3 (35:11):
Us the ones, if I never saw another clip, I'd
be like, Damn, she sounds really mad at harding Mike.

Speaker 1 (35:20):
So you were with her today and how I mean,
obviously I don't want.

Speaker 2 (35:26):
You to say anything.

Speaker 4 (35:27):
I mean, you wouldn't. But you know, I can move
on from it.

Speaker 2 (35:30):
But you were with her today, What is her take
on it? Is she is? She does?

Speaker 1 (35:36):
She think people took it too far? Is she standing
on what she says? Anything that you can share to
the audience.

Speaker 5 (35:43):
Well, what I can't share is that we were on
a set today working and so we didn't really have
time to.

Speaker 4 (35:48):
Have a lot of dialogue about this.

Speaker 5 (35:50):
And I know that when I saw her speaking today
and when we talked, we didn't talk anything about it.
She was focused on the project that we were working on.
So I think everybody should just breathe. You know what
I'm saying. I think that it's a trending hot topic
and I love that. I love the attention. Like I said,
it draws to a very important conversation, which is women

(36:13):
and them being able to have it all be mothers,
have careers and do it their own way, which Carti
has done. I love the fact that Christl another black woman,
had a strong opinion about it and was able to
share it on her platform. And I love the fact
that people are talking. And I actually hope the two
of them end up talking on record. I think that
would be a great conversation. Don't you shout.

Speaker 3 (36:36):
Out to Carty for her response though, because the old
Karty would have been more like she personally attacked the
girl back. She was like, well, you know, she was
like verally kind of like you know what I mean.
She didn't go off on her, and I think that
immediately even worse for Crystal.

Speaker 5 (36:49):
To me, I think she's familiar with the show, and
so that she I don't think that she was as
taken it back as the tone by the tone by
people who were not necessarily familiar with it, you know
what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (37:01):
So I think that for her, that part, I don't know.

Speaker 5 (37:04):
I haven't talked to her, but that part may not
have even been an issue, which would explain her responding
in a way that was more, I guess, calm.

Speaker 4 (37:12):
Than people may have anticipated.

Speaker 5 (37:14):
Cartie also is a mother of three, going through a
divorce and rolling out a very successful album, So I
just don't think this may be as high of a
priority for her as people think it is.

Speaker 4 (37:25):
Having a stronger being.

Speaker 2 (37:27):
Yeah, yeah, speaking of the divorce.

Speaker 1 (37:30):
Before we move on to Kanye's document Henery, I do
talk about this as relates to what Dustin said, which
is Carti B is going through divorce and one of
the biggest topics is the fact that Cardi B is
technically still.

Speaker 2 (37:45):
Married while she's having another man's baby.

Speaker 1 (37:49):
So when she was asked about it, why isn't she
divorce from Offset yet?

Speaker 2 (37:55):
Carti B revealed that.

Speaker 1 (37:58):
The reason why she is not divorce yet is because
Offset wants one of her homes and he wants her
to pay for his taxes.

Speaker 2 (38:09):
This is all alleged.

Speaker 1 (38:11):
She has alleged that these are some of the divorce
demands that Offset wants, and she mentioned how similarly to
the trial she was just at the court case she
was at being super twenty four million dollars for allegedly
hitting a person and obviously she was probably not guilty.

(38:31):
Cardi B says she is going to fight for this
because she works hard for her money and she doesn't
want to just sign the papers to be divorced because
in her mind, she is already divorced. So what do you
guys thoughts about that?

Speaker 2 (38:47):
Do you? I don't. What isn't clear to me in
this particular instance is whether or.

Speaker 4 (38:54):
Not there was a prenup.

Speaker 1 (38:55):
M wait said, I don't what it wasn't clear in
that conversation is whether or not Cardi be an Offset
if they have a pre nup.

Speaker 2 (39:07):
Yeah, that's not clear based on what she said.

Speaker 1 (39:11):
What I will is also based on what she said,
it doesn't appear that there was a pre nup in
place because Offset is asking for one of her homes
that's in her name, I'm assuming, and he's asking, among
other things, that she has to pay for his taxes.

Speaker 3 (39:31):
Well, you know, he's acting like the bitter baby mama
right now, So he just meant dragging this thing out
and make it difficult. And it's funny because he's the
one that messed with his marriage. You know, people can
give Carti a hard time for messing with someone else
while she's still legally married and getting pregnant, which again
she wasn't but she is. Well, this man had a
full of relationships with multiple women while they were married

(39:51):
before a separation took place. So I want to hear
shit about the dust standards. I do not.

Speaker 2 (39:56):
I do not.

Speaker 3 (39:57):
He did it while they was happily married and doing
it for years, for years she took him back. Yeah,
it seems like there's maybe there is no That's why
he's trying to you know he's gonna make it difficult
for her. He's gonna add he's acting like a bitter
baby mama, you know, like the with the perception of
a baby be bitter baby mama. And you know, Karnie
seems like she's been smart about her money. So if that,

(40:19):
if she needs to take her time and the divorce
of the happened to this kid is too, then so
be it. If it means you hold on to somewhere,
because the girls come a long way on where she started.
That woman's come a long way. And you know, I'm uh,
it's I feel like offic it's gonna make this thing.
U believe that it needs to.

Speaker 5 (40:34):
Be Yeah, I you know, look, I can only think
what I would do, and I know that if I
had ended a marriage over if I had ended a
marriage on bad terms, we'll just put it like that.
I'll be fiercely protective over my fortune in my life's work,
you know what I'm saying. And if there were no
measures in place, no prenup in place, I would fight

(40:54):
to the end to protect my assets.

Speaker 4 (40:56):

Speaker 5 (40:57):
I believe in a fair split affair, you know, exit,
And like I said, if they didn't have a prenup
in place, There's no way I would just go with
whatever he suggested just to end it if it didn't
reflect a fair exit, you know what I'm saying, And
him asking for millions and millions of dollars plus properties,
plus her to pay those taxes and stuff, it just

(41:17):
doesn't sound according to what she said. She said, it
didn't seem fair to her, So I would fight to
the end. And we know Cartie is not afraid of
a legal battle. She goes to court, she will go
she will take that shit to trial. So I think
that that's what we're going to see. And I don't
blame her one bit if it came down to what
I determine was not a fair shake in the end,

(41:37):
I would fight for something that was fair, you know
what I mean.

Speaker 3 (41:41):
You know what might be the case with them, and
this is the same thing happened I think with Jessica
Simpson and Nick roche Ying. He was making more money
and she wasn't. So then she was like, no, I
don't want to find a prenup. And in the end
it came back to fit in the ass because she
ended up being a bigger star than h having more money,
so that may I don't know if that's the case.
I'm just doing it out there, but yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (42:04):
No, that's a good point. No, Claudia, you raised a
really good point.

Speaker 1 (42:07):
So to break it down for r range drops, Jessica
Simpson was.

Speaker 2 (42:11):
A no shade to Jessica Simpsons.

Speaker 1 (42:14):
Who I love, but she was definitely considered a bless
pop star where the A list at the time was
Britney Spears and Christina Aguilera and Jessica Simpson was not.

Speaker 2 (42:26):
She never had a number one hit while she was
coming up with those girls.

Speaker 1 (42:33):
Nickolas Shank was a part of nine Dah Degrees My
Granton ninety degrees wasn't in Sync or Backstreet Boys, but
they did.

Speaker 2 (42:39):
The group had more success than Jessica Simpson's solo career.

Speaker 1 (42:44):
Like Claudia outlined, when they got married and they had
the MTV show Newlyweds, That's when Jessica simpsons profile like exploded, exploded,
and she had way, like quadruple more money than Nikola
Shay allegedly allegedly allegedly because I'm an eighties baby so
I know all things about the nineties drama, Allegedly she

(43:09):
had an affair on Nick Lache while they were married,
and a lot of people thought that that was one
of the main reasons why the divorce did become nasty,
and allegedly he wanted.

Speaker 2 (43:22):
A lot of what she made during their marriage.

Speaker 1 (43:26):
So Carna Brace is a very good point that when
Carti married Offset, Carti's album I believe dropped. But for
all attests and purposes, it's so early similar because Carti's
a solo star like Jessica was. Nicholas sche was part
of a big group like Offset, well with Migos, So

(43:48):
it is very interesting as to why this divorce may
take this This divorce may take a very long time because,
like Claudia said, it may appear that when they got married,
Offset was the breadwinner.

Speaker 5 (44:02):
Well, remember when when Carti being Offset debuted their relationship.
Remember they had gone to the Super Bowl together and
they were spitted coming out the Super Bowl holding hands.
They were you know, they were photographed. Carti was already
Cardi at that point, and in fact, she kind of
raised offsets profile amongst the Migos because Quavo was considered

(44:23):
to be like the breakout star at the time. Now
I knew who Offset was because I was a huge
and still am a huge Migos fan.

Speaker 4 (44:32):
Huge, so I was very well aware who Offset was.

Speaker 5 (44:34):
But the most people when it comes to like the
general population, they really overlooked Offset. But Carti B dating
him kind of raised his profile and made him this
star that we see today. So that is, you know
what I'm saying, a point to be shared too.

Speaker 4 (44:54):
In this case.

Speaker 5 (44:55):
That makes this even more unique because Carrie probably was
already in a great.

Speaker 4 (45:00):
Position at the time. We'll just put it like that.

Speaker 5 (45:02):
I'm not sure who had more, but I know they
were both doing good when they started, oh for sure.

Speaker 3 (45:07):
Yeah. Yeah, at the beginning of he she was just
out of bubble and pop, right.

Speaker 1 (45:12):
And I will say this, No, it wasn't.

Speaker 4 (45:16):
When they were married for seven years, right.

Speaker 2 (45:19):
I know.

Speaker 1 (45:20):
But remember Cardi b album Carti b pregnancy was announced
on Saturday Night Live when she was her debut album. Yeah,
so they her album was her debut album. Technically wasn't
out she.

Speaker 5 (45:37):
Was about gangst and bitch music. I'm thinking about the mixtapes.
I'm thinking about her mixed My Bad, not Invasion the Privacy.

Speaker 4 (45:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (45:48):
On the on tour, on the first tour, she was pregnant.

Speaker 2 (45:50):
She was, she was, she was.

Speaker 3 (45:54):
It worked out for off that he won like she was,
like he was, and she was, and then and then
you know, well, that's the reason.

Speaker 1 (46:03):
Why it is this big conversation and I'll move on
after this, but that's the reason why when I had
Regiend Carter on my podcast, he mentioned how the reason
why she's very careful of dating is because she feels
like men nowadays are cloud chasers. Not saying offset this one,
I'm not saying that rain drops, but Regiment Carter felt
that ladies watch out because these men nowadays are going

(46:25):
to get with you to raise their profile, to impregnate
you so that they're able to be saved for the
rest of their lives.

Speaker 3 (46:36):
So child, oh so true.

Speaker 10 (46:41):
Thank god for balth pregnancy tests, I tell you, because
once I thought I got got, I turned out with
a positive.

Speaker 3 (46:53):
It was like a faded one. I was like, oh,
a hot as mess. Lord Jesus say. I went on
a boat right the dance of the town and all
these like dolphins came on the boat. I think the
dolphins gig. The energy was like no, we released it
from that song, saying that might be grown inside of you.

Speaker 2 (47:14):
You are a mess rulling on.

Speaker 1 (47:20):
I want to get into Kanye West documentary.

Speaker 2 (47:25):
Dustin.

Speaker 1 (47:25):
I don't know if you had a chance to go
to the movies on September nineteenth, but if you did it,
I'm pretty sure you and Claudia saw a lot of
things online.

Speaker 2 (47:33):
So Kanye West has a documentary.

Speaker 1 (47:37):
It's called Whose Name, and it hit theaters September nineteenth,
So rain Drops. If you want to watch a movie,
go watch it now. The reason why this documentary is
making so much noise is because there are a few
clips that have made it online, and one of the clips,

(47:58):
Kanye West has an outburst. Some people may call it
a tan Trump with his then mother in law Chris Jenner.
During this conversation Claudia and Dustin, Kanye screams at Chris
while Corey Gamble her boy friendshed next to her and says,
no one from the family has taken any responsibility for.

Speaker 2 (48:20):
My hospital visit. He said that fifty when he talked
about Donald Trump.

Speaker 1 (48:27):
He said, that's fifty percent of what people say, at
least in my lying. After Chris Jenner tells him that
it doesn't matter what people are saying, Kanye, Kanye starts
to scream it does matter at Chris Jenner several times,
as Corey Gamble tries to interject off camera. He then says,

(48:50):
I haven't finished the sentence. It matters to us. It
doesn't matter what the Internet says. It matters to me. Last,
but not ly, Kanye did say I want to make
sure I get the quote right. But he made a
comment about he would rather be dead than than I
believe being on the medication.

Speaker 2 (49:10):
I believe that's what he said.

Speaker 1 (49:12):
As we all know, Kanye West was diagnosed bipolar in
twenty sixteen. So, Dustin, when you saw that outburst, what
did you think about.

Speaker 4 (49:20):
All of that? Well, I saw it online. I used
to be a really really, really really.

Speaker 5 (49:27):
Huge Kanye West fan. I loved his music. I loved
his production style. I loved his lyricism for many years,
right back before I'm talking before the College Drop already
even came out, his unreleased work, the shit he did
with CON's Consequence back in the day, like so much stuff,
and so I was.

Speaker 4 (49:45):
I kept up with.

Speaker 5 (49:46):
Him, went to the shows, went to the concerts, and
right after his Life of Pablo album, there was a shift.
There was a shift in his personality. There was a
shift in his music, the way the music sounded. There
was a shift definitely in the things that he was
doing and saying, and I lost interest as a fan.

(50:06):
So I had no idea that this documentary was out.
I still i'm learning as we talk about that it's
featured in theaters.

Speaker 4 (50:13):
I didn't know if it was on TV or not.
I really don't give a fuck.

Speaker 5 (50:17):
I quit keeping up with him after he started doing
all those super harmful rants and saying all kinds of
reprehensible things, especially when it comes to blackness and blackness
in America. I saw a clip circulating from the documentary
I guess where Michael Shay from Saturday Night Live was
expressingly him how much he meant to Black Americans and

(50:38):
asking him why he was doing some of the outlet
and stunts that he had pulled, like he had that
night when he went on stage during his performance and
put his Maga hat on and said that it was
his Superman cap.

Speaker 4 (50:49):
Because when he put that on, here give a fuck,
nobody thinks it was just so.

Speaker 5 (50:53):
Passionate on his behalf, and it looked really it just
wasn't interesting to me.

Speaker 4 (50:58):
So I don't give a damn and me.

Speaker 5 (51:00):
Ain't no nigga fin to be yelling and spitting in
my goddamn face, yelling at me and screaming like I'm
a child, or they acting like a petulant child.

Speaker 4 (51:07):
No way.

Speaker 5 (51:08):
If I was christ Jenner, I definitely would ask him
to not even ask him. I would have told him
to shut the fuck up. If I was Cory, I
would have made sure that he shut the fuck up.
And that's just that. I don't care nothing about Kanye.
This documentary is not gonna for me reignite any interest whatsoever.
I don't feel sorry for him. I don't feel like
whatever issues he has, our license for him to just

(51:30):
act a damn fool.

Speaker 4 (51:32):
And I'm not interested.

Speaker 5 (51:33):
So all this did for me personally was reaffirmed for
me that I had made the choice that was in
alignment with me, which was to hop off the Kanye train.
So again, all his work before the Life of Pablo
Back I've loved for years after that that old pot
clanging ass, abstract ass music, sound like Tanisa banging in

(51:55):
pants on Badgirls.

Speaker 4 (51:57):
Club, clean clang boom, you.

Speaker 5 (51:59):
Know that that dark shit they got them demon choir robes,
all this shit.

Speaker 4 (52:04):
Black you know Black Hall.

Speaker 5 (52:06):
It's just really weird and dark energy and I'm not
into it. So for those it is for good and
I hope that they are okay with that and supported
if they want to. But I don't give it down.
And there's no way I would sit in the movie
theater and watched him acting fool like that.

Speaker 4 (52:22):
I'm just not interested.

Speaker 3 (52:26):
I'm over Kanye West. I've been over him for years.
I fun facts back in the day, united to work
with Jamie Fox on his radio show and weed to
be at his house before you got the big House
lafouri Acres, and it was a nice house in what
was it not kind of Masters, but anyways, it was
like up there in the valley and Kanye would come
buy of the studio and I remember one day we

(52:46):
were all together when they were making us an overnight
celebrity twist with all of the Jeff Party names, and
I'm the one who said ready for the world and
the addition, we were all like saying stuff. And that's
what Kanye was. So humble, so creative's so interesting, so cool.
He was the kids from Chicago with the big jaw
on the backpack, and then the next he had blown
up a little bit more, and he was so cordial

(53:06):
and kind and he'd say hello. And then the next
one I saw him, he was a little bit more distant.
And then the next one I saw him, he was
totally sucked up in a club one night and he
tried me, okay, I've talked about it before and locked it.
There's security, locked this in our room together. Right, it
was like this thing. But I got out and nothing happened,
but whatever, But he was just weird. I was like, yo,
you sulky for around the way. Anyways, That's just my

(53:28):
context of how I used to rock with him. I
thought he was like super cool and like I had
some familiarity with him, watching this man go to the
heights that he's gone and become this international, huge superstar,
and the music he put out was like, you know,
just a lot of people rock with it, right to
go to this Coca cocoon that he's become, hugging Donald

(53:51):
Trump from the back wearing a red hat, acting like
this is his master. And then we're supposed to give
you so much grace because your mother died. I'm sorry.
I'm sorry that your mom. That I know that how
to be traumatic. I myself have not gone through that yet,
and we all will. But millions upon millions weight billions
of people have lost their mom and yet they are

(54:13):
all affects us differently. But I'm tired of given this
man grace for every bad decision he makes, including and
talking about how you wanted your daughter aborted, talking about
your ex wife, the way you have insulting the entire
black community in our ancestors, saying slavery with a goddamn choice. Well,
the way I see it now, your mental illness is
a choice because you refuse to do anything about it,

(54:35):
and then when you take medication for it that maybe
you may not be the wrong. It's always somebody else's fault.
It's Chris Jenner, it's Kim Kardashian, it's this person, it's
that person. When is it your job? What is it
your position? For? Man? What is it on you? Listen?
We all have issues, right, we have addictions, we have shortcomings,
and I do think that Kanye is aware that he

(54:57):
had an issue, So do something about it, if anything,
If not for us, it's not about the fans, and
who gives the fuck what we have to say, right,
But for your beautiful children and for your legacy and
before what your mom would want you to do. Your mother,
from what I remember, was a great woman, an educator,
and I think she would be embarrassed by the men
that you could come today when you fix your mouth

(55:18):
to talk to you about Rosa Parks and slavery being
a choice, like black people that were removing the kidnapped
from their country and brought on boats and many did
not survive, would have a choice like yeah, yeah, less
this right. The nigga crazy. So he's broken my heart many, many,
many times as a black man that has so much

(55:38):
influence and the things he's saying, it's just like, I'm
just so disappointed because I only brought out at the
beginning of meeting him because the guy that I saw
while massed this light in his eye and just like
I'm proud to see him like winds up the rates
and to trick it all off and blame everything that's
wrong in your life Arthurea Kardashian's when you were the

(55:58):
one cappined and want to be in our family so
bad and you love your post into the whiteness so much.
Now I don't even know who this Nigga is anymore.

Speaker 5 (56:06):
I don't, and let's not even begin to talk about
the voices and some of the names that he platformed
and brought to the forefront and suggested that these people
had good ideas. And he has a very impressionable fan
base that was absolutely padded by his alliance, his connection
to the Kardashians, very impressionable fan base.

Speaker 4 (56:27):
He did things like did a.

Speaker 5 (56:30):
Silly presidential run at a time when we really needed
focus as a country.

Speaker 4 (56:35):
He's done that. He's platformed horrible voices.

Speaker 5 (56:38):
It's just everything you can think of, said the most
horrible things you could say about people, about people's kids.
And like I said, he's just gone so far against
his own constitution of blackness that he had his wife,
I guess, walking around Vegas barefoot with strings on their titties.
You know what I'm saying, body all out looking cold,

(57:00):
while he's in shruck, covered and coked in fabric. Swaowed
like a goddamn baby in fabric. While his wife is
walking around barefoot in Vegas. There have never been dirtier
carpets than Las Vegas, Nevada, Okay, And he had her
barefoot out there with a wet, look slick back, and
we're supposed.

Speaker 4 (57:18):
To be into that.

Speaker 5 (57:19):
Hell, we got to deal with Julia Fox taking pictures
on top of the boxes and snow mounds in Brooklyn, Okay,
looking like she bites her cuticles and shit, and each
booger we have to look at that, You know what
I'm saying, all because of Kanye West and his antic
So I just.

Speaker 4 (57:38):
Very I'm outside of it. I just put it like that.

Speaker 5 (57:41):
I'm outside of all of this, and nothing about what
I saw in those clips is appealing. I don't see
how any of that can be positive for his product,
for the music he's trying to sell, or whatever he's
working on.

Speaker 4 (57:55):
Now.

Speaker 5 (57:55):
I don't even know what the fuck he's doing anymore,
So I'm not interested. And if I was Kim Kardashian,
if I was robbing, then I would check him for
yelling at my motherfucking mama like that?

Speaker 4 (58:05):
You mind?

Speaker 3 (58:07):
And what about Corey his gimble? You just sat there
and let him disrespect your brand, winner, your mama like that?
How daring you? Corey?

Speaker 2 (58:14):
Yo?

Speaker 3 (58:14):
You need to rotten raised up on him, and yes, yes,
and not to be cold about Conye's mental health. He
clearly does have issues, and so he does need to
get helped for and people in his circle should. But
blaming Chris Jenner for your medication and everything is their fault.
But you was dying to get into that family. And
you're the same guy that we loved during Hurricane Katrina

(58:37):
coverage that you took a stand against the President of
America and you said George Bush does not care about
black people. That was one of the realest moments ever
in meeting We was.

Speaker 5 (58:45):
Likely hard so we thought, or was it also a
play at our emotions as fans and as people who
he knew that that was something that was stoke, you know,
fire and within you know what I'm saying, because it
was a real feeling that a lot of us shared.
And maybe it's echoing some of the sentiments that he's
doing now, playing on that whole trope that he plays on.
I don't even want to give it no light, you

(59:06):
know what I'm saying, because I'm done with him. I'm
not even interested in garbage bag ass clothes. Everything he
wears looks dirty now he's y so like it just
I've completely lost interest. He sounds silly, Yet I am
not no one here he's he sounds literally like he's

(59:26):
thirteen when he's going on those rants. And I'm just
I'm not interested no more. There's nothing cool about him
for me.

Speaker 4 (59:35):
Y'all.

Speaker 5 (59:35):
Everybody could do what they wanted to do, but I'm done.
I'm not interested.

Speaker 4 (59:39):
Another no way, I'm sitting through that fucking documentary.

Speaker 3 (59:42):
Another line when he's talking about on the song gold
with Jamie Foxx, he said, and then when he gets on,
he leaves your ass for a white girl. M laft,
his beautiful black woman he had. I forgot her name,
but she had him. He was very grounds and he's
with her. He was with the way he.

Speaker 4 (59:57):
First, wasn't it.

Speaker 3 (01:00:00):
I like to spy for a thinking.

Speaker 4 (01:00:01):
Any I believe, Yeah, she was gorgeous.

Speaker 3 (01:00:04):
And then and then from that because Julia Fox and
all the weird stuff she was doing, and she want to.

Speaker 4 (01:00:09):
Write, Yeah, I'm I'm just not interested.

Speaker 5 (01:00:13):
And like I said, I don't understand how a documentary
of him yelling at the Kardashian's mama is going to
help him sell anything.

Speaker 4 (01:00:20):
That just doesn't even make sense to me.

Speaker 5 (01:00:23):
We know that you suffer fer mental issues. We know
that you know that you suffer from mental issues, and
he has absolutely had access to resources and all of that,
and none of that is our business because we don't
even know him.

Speaker 4 (01:00:35):
We're fans of the product that he sells, and so.

Speaker 5 (01:00:39):
Again, I just don't see how that can lead to
a path to anything.

Speaker 3 (01:00:42):
Yeah, I'm not to see. There is no way I'm
gonna be in a thing.

Speaker 4 (01:00:45):
I'm with you.

Speaker 3 (01:00:45):
I will not be in a theater watching. I'll continue
to I'll just look at lastly, whatever come happens across
my timeline.

Speaker 5 (01:00:52):
Yeah, exactly, I'll watch that movie where you shot that
little kid on tuv.

Speaker 3 (01:00:57):
Hey and if y'all are interested, it's called all I
wanted you to Everything. Day said something about the Claudia.
You really shat the kid him like Andrew.

Speaker 2 (01:01:14):
The Ghost of Kaye. What's got me child?

Speaker 1 (01:01:17):
Okay right now, no, wow, Okay, because I know I
got to talk about I will add this.

Speaker 2 (01:01:29):
Uh look it definitely listen.

Speaker 1 (01:01:35):
It's sad to see the state of where he's at.
It's sad to see him admit to being diagnosed bipolar
in twenty sixteen, but also screaming at Chris Jenner.

Speaker 2 (01:01:46):
Saying that he would rather be did than.

Speaker 1 (01:01:49):
To take the medicine like that is like unfortunate as
someone who lost their mother. Claudia is right, you, you
greeve we all grieve differently. You will never get over
your mother passing away. And I'm here to say that
and speak on behalf of those who are in that position.

Speaker 2 (01:02:06):
However, yes, we all deal with things differently.

Speaker 1 (01:02:10):
But as a grown person who's a father, who has
enough sense to say, I don't want my daughter in
Northwest dressing like this willin makeup, you have enough sense
to be a parent of a daughter to make those statements,
which a lot of people said, Okay, fine, we get it.
So I agree with you all no excuses for his behavior.

(01:02:31):
And I will say this though. You can say what
you want about Kimberly No l Kardashian.

Speaker 2 (01:02:38):
You could tell she protected.

Speaker 4 (01:02:39):
Him a lot from maybe that was.

Speaker 2 (01:02:43):
Yeah, she protected him a lot.

Speaker 1 (01:02:46):
And you the other clips I saw she looked scared
of him, like there was the eyes when he would
have these sort of like outbursts. So you know, look,
I have no desire to watch it documentary. I did
see the one that Netflix did, which my opinion, I
would implore people to watch that one because it had

(01:03:09):
less to do with what happened who he is now,
and it had more to do with his childhood, his
relationship with his mother, his relationship with the industry, and
it was it was sort of like a nice homage
to the genius that he was.

Speaker 5 (01:03:27):
I felt the same way until I got to the
third part. He almost had me. Were there two or
three parts to that documentary that came on Netflix.

Speaker 2 (01:03:36):
What happened in the third part repress my memory that.

Speaker 5 (01:03:38):
When he was out showing his ads, remember when they
were out in like that jungle somewhere or whatever, he was.

Speaker 4 (01:03:44):
Reating in the house, and the things he was doing
and saying.

Speaker 5 (01:03:47):
Yeah, it was a total departure from from the reminder
I had gotten in the beginning when they showed him
and his mom and when they showed him in the
early days performing all that music, and you could see
him be totally different, and they almost had me those
and Claudia. I was watching it and I was remembering
why I loved him so much, And then we got

(01:04:08):
to that all right, the last section, and I was like,
see here, this motherfucker go.

Speaker 4 (01:04:13):
I forgot about this right, So for me.

Speaker 3 (01:04:19):
And people, it's okay for us to be off Kanye,
you know, like, we don't all have to be like hey, Kanye,
like that's what makes the world go round, and like
difference of opinion, y'all.

Speaker 4 (01:04:29):
Can we definitely don't give a fuck if y'all like
him or not. I can tell you that I know.

Speaker 3 (01:04:34):
So y'all, could you know and listen, we have every right.
You don't have to like me. That's in our carlong,
but you watch it and we don't have to like
Kanye and and vice versa. We don't have to like,
it's okay to have different tanks, you guys, and there's
nothing wrong with that.

Speaker 1 (01:04:48):
Yeah, And at the end of the day, listen, I'll
end up by saying this. I want Kanye to get
the help he needs because dealing with bipolar disorder is
nothing to not take seriously.

Speaker 2 (01:04:57):
And there are people who are bipolar who don't.

Speaker 4 (01:05:00):
Act that way.

Speaker 1 (01:05:01):
So I also don't want it to make it seem like, oh,
you're bipolar, so that is an excuse.

Speaker 2 (01:05:07):
There are people on bi polar who don't do that.

Speaker 1 (01:05:09):
So again, my hope for Kanye West is to get
the help that he needs. It's evident that he's not
taking medication. He said it and perhaps he should so,
speaking of Olbers as our last story of the evening,
one of us made the news round Dustin for the
past couple of days. I mean, I haven't been in

(01:05:30):
the news, so I feel good about myself, Dustin.

Speaker 2 (01:05:35):
Have you been the news recently?

Speaker 4 (01:05:37):
Hell no, not me, But I know who read all.

Speaker 2 (01:05:42):
Right, So I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:05:43):
I was finding my little Tuesday morning business and all
of a sudden I see Dame Dash on the Breakfast
Club interview and he had this beautiful woman's name in
his mouth, by the name of Claudia Jordan. So, Audia,
Dame Dash, who was the founder, Well, let's say his job,

(01:06:05):
because it doesn't go away, Dame Dash, it's the founder,
co founder rather of Rock of Fella Records, was on
the Breakfast Club and he had a lot to say
about you, Claudia. So, Claudia, I have you speak on
this to up at the audience. There was a movie
that Dame Dash produced. Claudia Jordan was in it. Dame

(01:06:29):
Dash talks about.

Speaker 2 (01:06:32):
What was it called DestinE.

Speaker 4 (01:06:34):
I think Dear Frank Rat Claudia.

Speaker 3 (01:06:36):
It started off called the Lists and it was later
changed to Dear Frank too. We had a lot of
legal issues attached because of game Dash and bitch assness.
So let's go back in time. Let's take a trip
down memory lane. So twenty fifteen or sixteen, a guy
named Tony White that's from Dallas produced. I worked on
a couple of web series with them. We've done a

(01:06:57):
few jobs, and he was like, I have this other
movie for you. I love to get Columbus short and
Brian White. I'm like, I know Brian I kin of Columbus.
Let me reach out. So they gave me a casting
credit on this movie and a producer credit. While we're
about the pre production and all of our meetings and stuff,
he's like, Hey, I want to run something value. What
do you think about adding Dane Dash. He came by

(01:07:17):
the set one day when we work in and he
was like, you know, being Dan, And Tony asked me,
what do you think about adding Dane and giving him
like a credit, like a director credit. And the end goal,
funny was to get to Kanye West to have and
be a EP because back then Kanye wasn't acting like this.
So I was like, I don't think it's a good idea.

(01:07:39):
I think Dame was going to be a headache, and
I think with the names you have in this movie,
you don't meet all the and he's like, yeah, but
I just think so. Anyways, he brought him on as
a director. Dane never signed his paperwork and came to set.
We filmed out a house that he was renting, which
he defaulted on red and ended up getting sued by
the homeowners. I only mentioned that because he's like, you've
fill my house. I paid it, damn dash and not

(01:08:01):
put one penny into this movie, not a craft service dollar,
not a light bulb, not a nothing. Okay, he did
not put the money up. The producer was a guy
named Mike Montager the AEP that's who paid me. Long
story is short. Over the course of the time in
the movie, all a lot of little goofy shit was happening.
There was a sex scene I was supposed to have
with Cameron. My character cheats out her man and like

(01:08:23):
flashbacks because he reads my man reads my journal. So
the day one or filming is supposed to be my
scene with Cameron, where like in a pizza joint, is
supposed to happen. Dame tells me, I don't know if
this he was even ever attached or not. I gotta ask
Cameron when I do his show soon. Hey man, Cam
Cam sit, cant gonna make it. I'm like, oh, shoot,
so we don't have an actor. Here goes Dame, I'll

(01:08:45):
play the role. What are you even an actor? So
he volunteers himself to play, like to have a a
sex scene with me, which I was like, what imagine
you're not an actor and you volunteering yourself to do
the sex scene with the lead actress in the movie.
It was very uncomfortable, but I did it. He was

(01:09:08):
very aggressive in it, like I'm like, oh, HOLPD, that
ain't your real stroke play because where I kill got
to be suffering if it is. But anyways, we got
through it. But I before that happened, I went to production.
I'm like, oh, right before the scene, Dane says, come
in the truck with me, let's talk. I went, what's up?
He goes, yeap, what kind of porin you like? Girl
and girl? Guy? What do you like? What kind of porn?

(01:09:29):
I go why? And he's like just just watch his
and he hits me a phone with porn playing and
tells me to get ready for our scene. That's not
how acting goes, you, guys, I've had other films where
I've had loved seeing sex scenes. Whatever, you don't need
to do that and buy contrasts. Brian White played my husband,

(01:09:51):
and the Seed opens with our intimate, big, sexy, beautifully
shot scene. And this is how a professional actress handles
a scene like that. Hey, Claudia. It takes decide how
do you want to do this, let's choreograph, how should
we do this? You do this, I do that, and
what do you want to do? They discuss it. They
don't put a corn of video on your hand and
say get ready for me. It was just whatever. So anyways,

(01:10:14):
not that any of that could have been used anyways,
because he had a shunt out of his chance. A
good plastic tune for whatever his medication had go on
their vote and you can see it. It was not cute.
But anyway, if he decided paperwork and they try to
hijack the movie and ask for fifty the side of
the budget, and thought that he can just get out
of you know, the original offer and own the film.

(01:10:34):
He started going around town saying he owned the film,
tried to sell the film behind our backs, and that's
where the lawsuit came in, he was sued, he lost,
and then instead of just taking us out, he started
defaming the lawyer, Chris Brown, which I don't know why
you attacked the lawyer. So that's what he did, and
that's caused them all to lose all this stuff because
of that behavior on that movie. So they changed the

(01:10:55):
name of the movie from the List to Different. They
eliminated all day suggestions, all the music that he suggested,
all traces of him, and he was he was out
of it. There was a white guy named Josh Webber
that was the actual doing the heavy lifting with the director. No,
damn did do some stuff on the movie. I said
that in court and it's in the transcripts. But as
far as being the only one right, No, but it
was I was a little you know, and when he

(01:11:17):
did that, I was like, yo, I was very green
and acting. It was very uncomfortable. But again, I'm used
to functioning Hollywood, so I got past it. So I
didn't bring him up in many charges. So now, okay,
a week before Breakfast Club, he's on the Internet saying
my name, saying I think I'm gonna go out there.
Chris Brown, the lawyer Claudia, Jordan, Brian White, all these
people and get some money out of them. So when

(01:11:38):
he goes to the breakfast club. That's why Jess said,
what if Claudia owe you? They didn't bring me a reason.
So when they asked him, he said, basically, I pursed myself,
and he talks about the point. I don't know why
he said that, because it's silly. So now he's sent
a demand letter of him and his woman for one
hundred million dollars and and actually I just asked my

(01:12:01):
lawyer if I could talk about this, and it's been
it's been reporting like there's there's a case right now.
He's in bankruptcy and he can't sue anybody, so the
way it works, only the bankruptcy trent trustee can sue.
It's silly, but he's too stupid to know this, like

(01:12:23):
so he's just doing this for clips and attention. He
recently went after Cameron, which used to be his boy,
for a three hundred million dollar case. Dave's enjoying all
the attention that he's getting because it's the most attacker
he's gotten since he was on the boat Big Pip
and spilling liquor on video models. Okay, so this is
just an attempt at relevancy. He's doing robot. He owes

(01:12:44):
everybody money. He's like twenty five million dollars in debt,
and it's sad because there's a multipon a time he
was a lot of trajectory to really, you know, be
set for life. And I hate to see this happen,
but it's his emotion and I think, my opinion, narcissisted
has been the root of his downfall. And I hope
you don't think I'm afraid of him, because I'm certainly not.

(01:13:06):
And Dan, you can kiss my ass and you know
that's that.

Speaker 1 (01:13:12):
Well, let me just say thank you for sharing your story.
I'm sorry you have that experience. First and foremost, I'm
glad you're okay. And I mean, I don't have anything
else to say after that. I'm just happy you're okay.

Speaker 3 (01:13:24):
Oh yeah. You know, at the time, I was twenty sixteen,
I was golding some shit and it was just like damn,
you know. Like but unfortunately for most women in this business,
where we all have many, many stories of similar situations
like this, you know, I'm not going to just crumple
and fall over this, but It's just like one more
just gross story.

Speaker 4 (01:13:40):
That I have.

Speaker 3 (01:13:40):
But whenever I got over it, you know, well, I'm
not afraid of him, and you know what, I'm the
only one to know a fuck with them. None of
his family does because of his behavior. His brother and
his kids if they seem to have a very tumultuous relationship.
I believe Dane was another one. Just get some help,
some therapy for that ego you have. I think his
downfalls entirely from his mouth, you know. But yeah, he

(01:14:04):
took his shirt off and was trying to jack grab me.
I said, oh, this is not cute. I don't know
how anybody gets away from this. So, yeah's the point
of thing.

Speaker 2 (01:14:16):
Anyways, Sorry about that.

Speaker 1 (01:14:18):
Anything I can tell by looking at face, I ain't
touching it, Okay, all.

Speaker 2 (01:14:23):
Right, No, no, I'll get to people know.

Speaker 4 (01:14:27):
I did go your experience, you know what.

Speaker 2 (01:14:30):
Yeah, No, like I said, I'm glad she was fine.

Speaker 3 (01:14:32):
I rego production immediately when it happened. I didn't wait.
I went the very that same night, and the next
day he threatened to fire me, and then was caught
on a film and he'll probably release that where he
was like, we can just fire and get another one
hop and it's again. We had many talks in his house,
and you know, it was a time I thought maybe
he's the victim here, maybe this is some conspiracy and
game dash. But I see now, it's just all self inflicted.

(01:14:54):
It's self inflicted. So yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:14:57):
All right, well look, thanks for sharing that, Clauda. I'm
glad you're okay.

Speaker 1 (01:15:01):
And look it's it's it's an unfortunate situation, rain Drops.

Speaker 2 (01:15:06):
This was a great night of shot topics. We had
a great shot topic night.

Speaker 3 (01:15:12):
Yes your drug one day, No.

Speaker 2 (01:15:16):
I'm I'm drunk in love with you. Claudia and Dustin.

Speaker 3 (01:15:20):
At the head of the SCC said we can do
this the easy way of the hard way.

Speaker 2 (01:15:26):
You are too smart for your own good. I love it,
love it, love it. Thank you, ray Drops, thank you, Dustin,
thank you Claudia.

Speaker 1 (01:15:34):
We will see you guys next Monday. Reality with the
King is executive produced by me Carlos King, produced by
Lizzie Nimitz, and a partnership.

Speaker 2 (01:15:48):
With the Lack Effect Network.

Speaker 1 (01:15:50):
You can also find us on my YouTube channel at
the Carlos King Underscore

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