EXCLUSIVE with Kiki Barth: RHOM's Breakout Star

Real Housewives of Miami fans, get ready for a treat! Kiki Barth joins Carlos for a show-stopping interview you won’t want to miss. Season 7 has given us a glimpse into Kiki’s personal story, and on RWTK, Carlos takes things even deeper. So grab your mojitos, sit back, and let’s raise a glass to Kiki!

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:03):
Reality with the King is hosted by me, Carlos King.
I'm an executive producer who have produced some of your
favorite shows from the Real Housewives in Atlanta, New Jersey
and my own creation, The Love and Marriage Franchise and
Bell Collective. Every episode, we recap reality television from the
Real Housewives Franchise to The Bachelor or Selling Sunset, in

(00:27):
addition to celebrity guests, whether in the unscripted space or
scripted as well. Rain drops on today's episode of Reality
with the King. I am so thrilled because I get
to have an exclusive conversation with the Beauty of Miami.

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She is like the fan favorite. She is the one
we all love. We all want her to be a
full time housewife. We all want her to hold them Kimoo.
Give it up for the one, the only, my girl,
the most gorgeous thing walking the streets of Miami. He
keep bar Wow.

Speaker 2 (01:09):
What an introduction you deserve it all. I promise guys,
I did not tell him to shout out like this,
But thank you so much. Callers. You know I love
you so much. I admire you so much. I've been
watching you for many years. To have been sitting here
It's like a dream come true.

Speaker 1 (01:25):
Okay, so sweet of you. Now listen, it's a dream
of mine to have you here. I love you so much.
We folly trumble on social media. I think you are
something amazed and I am so grateful that you said
yes to coming on the podcast. So I want to
say thank you for that.

Speaker 2 (01:44):
I couldn't say no. I mean, I'm be Carlos. Of
course when where I'm there, Niked, I'll show up. Har
you on me. I'm so sorry.

Speaker 1 (01:55):
Well, you have the clothes and you look good.

Speaker 2 (01:57):
Thank you. Well you asked me to come looking decent,
or that's my t would have been out.

Speaker 1 (02:04):
I just want to get started with you. Listen. This
season is season seven of the Real Housewives of Miami's
Off the Chain. But before we get into into that, obviously,
this season also has opened up you to the world
in terms of your backstory, and I, along with the audience,

(02:24):
we're so grateful and thankful that we are getting to
know you a little bit deeper. So just talk to
me about that, like what was your decision in telling
us like who key Key really is?

Speaker 2 (02:37):
Well, first of all, we must free I'm so sorry,
comes father God Evernily King, We thank you so much.
What it is beautiful today. We are grateful for having
us here. Please guide us, help us speak only the truth.
Got us with widom, clarity, wisdom, clarity, and help us

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to be honest and speak our truth. And for anybody
energy that has been sent to us, we ask you
to please rebuke it and help us help us. What's
what I'm looking for? Just help us transmute it and
bring everything back to a positive energy. I'm calling Okay
and John Michael to please guide us and protect us

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and remove any blackages that we turn our way, and
help us only speak the truth, nothing but the truth.
Thank you God. Amen.

Speaker 1 (03:29):
Okay, Wait, so you're very spiritual.

Speaker 2 (03:32):
I am very spiritual, and I'm kind of weird a
lot of like I know, you guys see me on
the show where I'm super like fun, but I'm kind
of like a learner most of the time. Like I
held trees, speak to the beach. I can spend hours
on the beach, talk to the sunrise sun said. Yeah,
I like spending time with myself. And yeah, you know,

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I'm like a praier warrior too, and people don't really
see that side of me, but they just seem like, oh,
she's crazy. I'm like only if you know on my
phone it's all like praise. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (04:04):
Is that something that you were doing as a little
girl growing up in Haiti with your family? Was that
like embedded in you from your mom?

Speaker 2 (04:14):
I started, I started as a Christian and then yeah,
from my mom's side. My dad was never really a
church type of person. My mom still is, by the way,
but I feel like in my team, it was like
in and out. You know. I've been through a lot
of churches. Some of them we can say cold, you know,

(04:35):
but no one really know that side. But I mean
sometimes when things happen to you in life and they
kind of put you in such a dark path, you
don't have anything else to rely on but prayers. And
I can manifest that through prayers. I get me through,
And especially now, I only really mainly lean on prayers now.

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So I'm always praying.

Speaker 1 (04:59):
I know people find it, but no, I'm the same
way I pray. I pray like hundreds of time today. Yeah,
I'm always talking to God. I'm always you know, thank you, oh.

Speaker 2 (05:09):
For sure for sure, because I just God, you know,
your your guides and your ancestors. Also they with you.

Speaker 1 (05:14):
Yes, yes, yeah, yes, my mom's in heaven along with
my grandmother's grandfather's. My grandmother's birthday was yesterday. I told her, like,
happy birthday. I think you're celebrating. So I agree with you.
I think it keeps you connected to a to just
like a higher power source.

Speaker 2 (05:32):
Yeah, exactly, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (05:34):
No, but I love that about it.

Speaker 2 (05:35):
A lot of people don't understand. All you have to
do is just like call on your you know, just
you call on them. They there.

Speaker 1 (05:41):
Yeah, yeah, you are gorgeous, Like as a little Haitian girl,
did you know that you were a beautiful person? Like
were you aware of like how stunning you are?

Speaker 2 (05:57):
Actually?

Speaker 1 (05:58):
No.

Speaker 2 (05:58):
Growing up in Haiti, I was always called Zopope, which
is it's almost like a little Barbie but skinny, which
and Haiti, the way I was raised, being skinny was
not really a thing. So I used to get picked
on a lot. But there was always two group. One
group kind of like telling me, oh you too skinny,
your eyes my eyes like very watery. They will call

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me out. But then you have another group that like,
oh my god, like you could totadly be like ceiling
gion you can be a model, you can this, you
can that. So that vision I always because the thing is,
I've learned to learn how to remove the negativity and
focus on the positivity because if two sides of people
telling you wrong and right, I try to stick with

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the right side that's telling me, oh, you know, when
you get to the US, you can always you know.
So it become a dream like Okay, well here in Haiti,
they're literally mocking me because I have long legs, i'm skinny.
But then there's another group that's like, when you go
to the US, you're gonna be making, You're gonna be big,
You're gonna this, You're gonna that. So I always knew
I was gonna be somebody. I just didn't know that

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I will have to go through all that chaos to
get here where I am today. And this is just
the beginning because I'm a very positive person and it's
gonna happen. You just have to keep manifesting it. And
I'm very strong. I'm manifesting my own life because I've
been to space where I don't even know how I

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make it out, but I read it through and look
where I am today.

Speaker 1 (07:28):
Now you're doing so well, when you came to America,
How old were you?

Speaker 2 (07:33):
I was thirteen going on fourteen, and I tell people
it's fourteen, but thirteen going on fourteen because I'm like,
it's like when you're like middle age, you big one. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (07:42):
Was it a culture shock for you? Were you like,
did you love it where you were?

Speaker 2 (07:46):
You?

Speaker 1 (07:46):
Were you frightened when you came to America?

Speaker 2 (07:48):
Was it? I was supposed to come here as well?
First of all, I was one of the smartest girl
in school in Haiti. I was like first in my class.
I was like one of those students that you skip
certain classes because I was so smart. You know. My dad,
my dad had his life together in Haity, was a businessman.
I was in private school. Life was good and Haiti.

(08:10):
So my dad's main thing was we're gonna bring her
to the US. Just I was supposed to come here
for three months. Three months, that's it. And when when
I decided to come and I stayed with my stepmother,
she was only supposed to have me for three months,
and I think when my dad ended up changing his mind,
that's when things changed. Also because she was expecting me
to only be at the house for three months. And

(08:32):
then here I am now decided to be like, oh
we're going to school, we're staying here, and yeah.

Speaker 1 (08:36):
Oh wow, So you get your brains from your dad.
You think what your brains, your smartness, your business is
not what you know.

Speaker 2 (08:45):
I'm I'm learning to become a business person, you know.
I mean, some of us we have to be the
face of the businesses. Not all of us were, you know,
But I've been. I've been the faces of many businesses,
but I haven't really explored that side yet. And nothing
to hide, you know. Some of us are better in businesses,

(09:05):
some of us are. We we have to learn, you know.
And I'm surrounding myself with groups of people not that
I can learn from because I always tell this. I
even say this to Mary, so it's never too late
to learn. And it's no. No question is a dumb
question because no matter how crazy it sounds, does the
person don't know? Because that's why they're asking. All you

(09:26):
have to do just answer, don't mark them, don't in
front of them. Just because you know the answer doesn't
mean that everyone have to know the answer. So I'm
not afraid to ask questions. I always ask questions, and
I'll be a business woman some day. But right now
I'm learning.

Speaker 1 (09:40):
When you came to America, where the.

Speaker 2 (09:43):
Kids did you said America?

Speaker 1 (09:45):
America?

Speaker 2 (09:45):
You said America America?

Speaker 1 (09:50):
I think your mind I was English silent? Now you
ca America? There you go. Were the kids nice to you?

Speaker 2 (10:05):
The kids were always, oh, like general kids on my life,
like the kids in school?

Speaker 1 (10:10):
Like was it? Were they nice to you? Did you
get bullied?

Speaker 2 (10:13):
I remember the kids were nice in general. Because I
feel like when I came here as a teenager, it's
I don't know, I just I kind of started looking cute,
like a little you know, just a little bit of
I don't They were not mean, okay, And I didn't

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speak English. I still don't speak English.

Speaker 1 (10:37):
So wait, when you came to America from Haiti as
a thirteen and a half year old girl, you spoke
no English, of course not.

Speaker 2 (10:45):
I don't speak French. I don't speak English. And mind
you and Haiti, if you don't speak French, it's almost
like you're like from the lowest class. That's how they
classify it. So I mean, my dad put me in
the best school. I could have learned friends, but I
don't know, I just felt like it was not easy.
I can read it, I can write it, but for
some strange reason, it's very hard to speak it. So

(11:09):
I was always a strong creol speaking person. And you know,
I don't know. I came here the people were not
too mean, but I can't complain unless you were not
horrible to me. I'm not gonna complain about that.

Speaker 1 (11:25):
So how did you learn English.

Speaker 2 (11:28):
From people's mouth? I mean a little bit in school,
but I tried to. Here's the thing with a lot
of Haitian people, when they come here, they stick together.
And since a little girl, especially after I got kicked out,
I was like, you know what, one thing I'm not
gonna do. I'm already the black ship of the family.
I'm gonna make friends that speak no Creole, and I
don't care if I understand or not what they're saying.

(11:51):
I'm still gonna go ahead and hang out with them.
And that's how I learned. And it's still bad today,
but still I can have conversations. I just super heavy accent,
and you know, sometimes my word get miss misconstrued or
lost in translation. And this is why if I'm speaking
to you, if you interrupt me, I lose what I'm

(12:13):
going to say because I need to take time to
process the word that I'm trying to say. And some
of the girls on the show they helped me. Sometimes.
Mary Soil has been a very good helper, and sometimes
she's like, no, Kiki, that's not how you say. This
is how I say it. And some people will get upset.
But I'm like, no, this is great ive datement and
they correct me. I love that, but I know some
people they'll pubably take offense to it. I'm like, no,

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I love to learn. It's okay.

Speaker 1 (12:37):
Why did you get kicked out?

Speaker 2 (12:39):
I got kicked out because first of all, I felt
like my stepmother really didn't want me there because she
was expecting me to come for the three months and
I ended up staying. And second that's when I was like,
you know what, I really remember what they were saying,
and Haiti that you could be a model and that
maybe I should kind of like try to explore it,
and me exploring it. You know, when you're here, you

(13:02):
don't really know how to start modeling. You don't have
to go to an agency, so you kind of like
I was using model Mayhem, like, you know, trying to
find photographers to shoot with and I'm shooting and someone
will be like, no, you have to shoot like this,
stopless or this and that, and then I was just
excited showing the pictures, like look, I'm going to be
a model, and she just didn't like it. And I
remember my dad was traveling back and forth. He wasn't

(13:23):
Haiti at the time, and she called him and said, look,
she's literally going out there. She's turning into a prostitute,
she's becoming she's taking naked photos. She's that And my
dad just said. She didn't even talk to me. He
just said kick her out. But that's saysan parents. But
for me, I didn't talk to my dad for a

(13:43):
little bit over ten years because of that. That's because
I felt like you could have at least listened to
my side. You did not listen to my side of
the story. You just listen if he had just give
me a chance to explain, because at that time, I
always I also felt like people never let me explain myself.

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And it's still happening to these days. It's like, this
is why I don't talk, because I'm like, well, who's
gonna believe me anyway, so might as well just whatever.
So so I've learned to just let things go and
just be like, I know my truth. But yeah, my dad,
he didn't listen to me. So and I said, if
you're gonna treat me like that, then I will not

(14:25):
talk to you. And once I say I cut you off.
My cutting game is very strong, especially if I feel
like I didn't do anything wrong. And I don't care
if you're my dad, my mom, sometime your family. You
don't know what kind of deities, what kind of monetary
spirit is going inside them that turns them into demands
or I don't know, just because they're your dad or

(14:47):
your sister or they doesn't mean that this person is
for you. Could have been someone from your past life
coming you make your life miserable. I don't know. But
all I know my cutting, I love it. I will
preach no, but that's what I'm saying, Like, sometime you
be your own people, yeah, and I will cut you off.

Speaker 1 (15:09):
Yeah, and not think twice about it.

Speaker 2 (15:11):
That's me.

Speaker 1 (15:12):
I love that about you. So here you are you
in America. So when you came to America, who was
with you?

Speaker 2 (15:19):
I mean, I'm the first child, so I was born
before marriage. So my dad met my mom when they
were super young. My mom ended up getting pregnant her
mom her family because her mom died when she was
eight years old. Her family kicked her out, so she
had to go live with my dad family. So living
with my dad family, they kind of didn't really like

(15:41):
her because she was not the rich, beautiful girl that
they wanted my dad to end up with. So my
mom had On the same day my mom had me,
my dad ended up coming to America. Like he literally
stopped at the hospital, saw my face and came to
the US. Coming to the US many many years later,
he became a US citizen, went by to eighty with
his new wife, and my mom is like sitting with me,

(16:03):
and it's like, well, I never broke up with you,
but this is my new wife. Everyone and Haitian people,
any Haitian was watching this will know the way they
are is if you come from America, they kind of
already put you up there. So my mom stood no chance.
So to this day, my dad never say to my
mom we break up or it just it just happened. Yeah,
So this is what it is now. My mom is

(16:26):
here with me, who cares. And another thing that my
dad did that was funny to me, which was not funny.
But I remember coming here and I was like, wow,
you're bringing me here, so maybe my mom is next.
He was like no, no, no, no, no, I'm bringing you here.
Your mom now become your responsibilities. And this is where
it gets stuff when I got kicked out, because I

(16:47):
had not only had to provide for myself, I had
to also provide for my mom. That will start over there.
So with all of that working and stuff, I never
really had a chance to even go to college because
work become my main focused so and I think part
of that is with my language barrier two, which yeah.

Speaker 1 (17:09):
Where did you go we got kicked out?

Speaker 2 (17:11):
I went to my Auntie Anti Monique and Bumbach home
and Aunti Monich was really really nice, but the thing
with her she had already had her tribe of children,
so she can give me a place to stay, but
she couldn't really take care of me. And that's when
I started working at Burger King, and Burger King has

(17:33):
been good to me until it was not. I still
love Burger King, but he wasn't very He was the
people that works at Burger King. As a little girl,
they see you, then they pray on you, not pray
on you, p r e y And as a youngerl
you know, like I don't know any better. And then
I had to like go to work and they'll put
me in like the worst shift ever, like the worst

(17:56):
shift with like one am. I'm like walking back home
just so for them to try to you know, and yeah, yeah,
that was a tough time.

Speaker 1 (18:09):
This is reality with the King and I'm Carlos King.
Let's get back into the show. We got a tough
life kick here.

Speaker 2 (18:17):
Yeah, but look where you got me. You know, sometimes
it's when you go through the toughest time. It's even
my dad said this, he broke the football you'll see
in one of the episodes. He was like, well, my
dad is sarcastic, just like me. Did I say that right? Sarcastic?
He was like. I was like, yeah, that you kicked
me out you this and that. He was like, well

(18:37):
look where he got you. Look at all the cameras around.

Speaker 1 (18:43):
Thanks the.

Speaker 2 (18:47):
Credit for That's not the best way to take credits,
but it is what it is.

Speaker 1 (18:52):
What was modeling like for you, Like were you a
part of like the world world, where like Tyra and
Naomi were like at the top of the game.

Speaker 2 (19:04):
No, this is the thing with modeling. I feel like
just because there's different levels today, right, just because you're
not in Naomi doesn't mean that you're not a working model.
You know, some girls make so much money, but they're
just not on the cover of every magazine. They're just
not on the face of every billboard. But they still

(19:26):
getting all these jobs coming in and they're making millions.
So I was in the space where I was making
a lot of money and I was booking a lot,
like I made a leading through modeling. But I feel
like I was the now Mi Kemball of Haiti. Yeah,
that's that's the way to put it, because every single

(19:48):
Hitian you know, will be like, this is our Haitian
now Me Kemball. Yeah, So I mean, I mean they
have now Me here Haiti.

Speaker 1 (19:55):
Guys, kick be clear clock that. So, how did the
Real Housewives of Miami come about?

Speaker 2 (20:08):
Well? I will tell you, But first, did you also
know I did beauty pageant? You did? I represent Hates
so well? I was one of the first ones. Yes,
I did. But anyway, how did the Real Housewave of
Miami came about? I? I okay, for Gertie's fortieth birthday.

(20:30):
She was tending forty. I was I was with well
not whatever. For Gertie's fortieth birthday, she had this huge party.
She ended up connecting with me on social media on Instagram,
and she was like, hey, you fabulous, Oh my god,
you Haitian. I'm Haitian. You want to hang out, I'm
doing this party like. She was super lovely, and I

(20:51):
ended up going to the party. I met her there
and then that was the time that we hang out,
and then I went home and I ended up moving
from Miami to Europe. So as I was in Europe,
I was engaged. I was over there living my life
and I made it's an Instagram post talking about it's

(21:14):
my birthday. I got flowers. I got this because I
don't show up. I don't show so if you're never
gonna find my personal stuff in my story, but if
it's my birthday, I'm like, oh, I got rosies. I
got this because I'm not the tap that will open
the shoe box and be like, look, I got new shoes.
You won't know if these shoes are from twenty nineteen,
or if they do you say twenty nineteen, yeah, or
if they're from twenty twenty five. So she basically saw

(21:39):
my post and she was like, oh my god, Kiki
like we She pretty much recommended me to cast for
the for the show.

Speaker 1 (21:51):
So when she saw your polls.

Speaker 2 (21:53):
She forgot that. She was like, oh my god, you
fabulous you you Haitian, you engage, You'll be greatfu for it.
And I was like no, I'm like I'm too private
for this. This is like no, I'm not going back
to America. And she was like no, no, no, no, no, no,
no no, no, you should try. You should try. So did
the first casting and they loved me right away, and

(22:15):
then you know, it's a whole process, but these were
like the first step, like if you didn't like get
if these people didn't want you, wouldn't even get to
the whatever, you know. So fast forward they wanted it,
and I was like, how did I get this? Because
I don't think I'm funny, you know, like yeah, I'm
like okay. So then I decided things were not working

(22:42):
for me over there, and I ended up moving back
to Miami and yeah, and that's how I got referred
to the show. It's still girty wow wow. But I
came in as large as friend.

Speaker 1 (22:56):
That's gonna be. It was weird because I, first of all,
let's be clear, Miami Housewise is that girl. Yes, I
was speachless. This show was good. So I've been watching.

Speaker 2 (23:16):
Yeah, it's a very good girl.

Speaker 1 (23:17):
No shade to the first iteration of it. The first
two or three seasons, I tried to get into it.
It just it just it's just no. But then it
was off the air for seven years and then it
came back and I'm like living in Miami at the time,
and I'm like, I was living here. I was living here,
and I was like, let me see these girls are doing.

(23:39):
And the first episode I said, oh, this show was everything.
So that's why I'm surprised. I didn't know Gerdy referred
you to this show because you came in as Larcen's friends.

Speaker 2 (23:48):
Well, there's your whole back story to it. Okay, it's
like your whole backstory. So when me and Gerty were
supposed to start the show everything, it was like, We're
so excited the two Haitian girl, we gotta gold with queens,
with this, with that, and then it kind of take
a left turn. I think part of it was because
like I, you know, I spoke cruel to her. That's

(24:09):
that's my understanding. I think she got upset with me.
The reason I think part of that is I spoke
Criel to her and and she did not like that.
I don't know what her side is because I'm from
what I'm hearing. There's a whole other side of it,
but this is my truth. And from that she just

(24:30):
decided she was like, well, I don't want to you know.

Speaker 1 (24:33):
We were this was this on camera or.

Speaker 2 (24:38):
It was off well, me speaking Creel to it was
on camera. I never made it to the exactly. But
then it just I was like, wow, we not together,
you know. I was just asking questions and I find
out like and I was like, okay, well the other
girls are my friends too, so and that's how I

(24:59):
ended up getting very close with larsa closer because I
had already know some of the girls. I got closer
to Larsa, a, Mayito and Alexia. And this is why
if you go back for the three seasons, you're gonna
always see Gerdie, Nicole, and Julia together.

Speaker 1 (25:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (25:14):
And I was always with the other people, and this
is why now it's like, ok is kissing me. I'm like,
but if you look back. These are the girls that
I was always with, And it's not that I'm kissing
their follows. These girls not only they've been having my back,
but I fight them too. You don't get to see everything,
you know how it is like it's a big it's
a big gas Like it's like, what forty five minutes too,

(25:36):
it's big. You don't get to see everything. So, yeah,
that's what happened.

Speaker 1 (25:42):
Did she explain to you why you spreaking creole to
her offended her?

Speaker 2 (25:48):
Not really, you can ask her that. But so you
felt the distance, Well, it's not that there was a distance.
It was like I just felt like while we not, like,
wh are we not doing scenes? And I find out,
oh and just look back for the three season and

(26:10):
look back. But we worked it, we walk through it,
We'll walk through it fast forward to this season. We
were like, you know what, Nicole decided not to be around,
not to be around, and we were like, you know,
everyone's asking for both of us anyway the past. Let's

(26:30):
move forward and you're gonna see us a lot this season.
Everything is cool, Everything was supposed to be perfect until.

Speaker 1 (26:43):
I do want to get into that because you know,
when we see and by we meaning me and the audience.
What I love about Miami especially is because of the
different cultures. And one of my favorite parts of Miami
is when Marisol and Alexia break off in their commonization
speaking Spanish, and I think, to me, as a person

(27:05):
who does not speak Spanish, I love.

Speaker 2 (27:06):
That I'm even learning Spanish from them. I'm speak Spanish
to me.

Speaker 1 (27:11):
I love it. I love when they break off and
they speak, you know, in their native language. So I'm
assuming with youtubeing Haitian, it was sort of like, oh,
that would be dope to see you two speaking, and.

Speaker 2 (27:23):
Even if you did it, I would have loved to even,
like up straight like they say it like that. Like
I said, I love to learn, but maybe some people don't.
They don't like I don't know, but we're all different.

Speaker 1 (27:34):
Yeah. So you have been the fan favorite since the
show premiere. Everybody loves some Keiki. People have been begging
you to be full time, to have a mohedo. Well,
we saw the top of season seven it was you
diving into your personal story and honey, we all loved it.
And then all of a sudden, we started to really

(27:56):
see this situation happen between Gerty and Julia U and
one of the biggest moments of the season obviously is
when Julia threw the drink towards Gertie's direction and everybody
like gag and you were in the middle of it.
There's a lot of people and I even said this

(28:17):
to Kiky, just being honest, where we were like, oh, Kiki,
what are we doing? Like, you know, there's there are
people who have said.

Speaker 2 (28:25):
Oh, trust me, I get the backlash, but I'm like,
I have no idea, So let me start with this.
Gerty was always super close to Julia and Nicole. You've
seen it. I was always closer to the other girls,
not saying that we're all not friends. We're all friends,
but the other girls always mix space, like to make

(28:46):
sure that they get me with them, you know. So
what happened when I find so me and Gerty we decided,
I'm just I decided. I was like, you know what,
we're gonna pass. Let's move forward. We've been hanging out,
we have been I've seen her at events, We're taking pictures,
were posting together. We're good. And then now it's like

(29:10):
everybody was asking for me to have personal scenes and
I was like, you know what, you know, even though
you barely see me on that side, I was like,
come on, come on the boat, let's let's whatever do
our things. And I find out what you guys donna
see is that I find out that her and Julia
was having problems. Julia told me, Gertie told me, and

(29:31):
I'm like, here's the two girls that I was not
the kind of like closest closest to. They were besties
at one point. So I feel like, as a friend
who's now in the middle, I'm always the one in
the middle of everything, and I said, I can bring
these two together. So at Mary'sol, even when I came
in and Gertie came in, I was hoping that they

(29:51):
could talk, and I sat down and between them as
you can see, hoping that everything will go the way
it goes. But I can contry what Julia decided to do.
Julia decided to do what she did, which was horrible,
by the way, horrible, and what you didn't see. We
all speak on it. It was horrible. But however I

(30:12):
got water thrown at me too. Carlos. I always tell
people this, what I did for Gertie is the exact
same thing I would have wanted a friend to do
for me. I've done a lot of healing on myself.
I've learned to remove myself from situation that can potentially
get worse. Now, however, other people could have throw punchees,
whatever they choose to do. That's them. But me what

(30:35):
I did in that moment, I got up, Alexei, I
take Julia. Gertie, come down. I'm even speaking quill to her.
Come down. Because when things like this happen right away,
I'm thinking, like I'm a thinker, I'm a Gemini. It's
a to the next step. First thing I'm thinking is
this is marysol wedding. Mary Sool is not gonna live.

(30:56):
Alexia is the one putting the event together for Marisol.
Alexi is not gonna live. Larsa has been friends with
them for so long. She's not gonna live. Julia is
now best with Alexia. No one's gonna leave Gertie. I'm
willing to live with you. Let's remove ourselfs Come.

Speaker 1 (31:12):
On, you told Gerdy I'm willing to leave with you.

Speaker 2 (31:15):
I grab her, babe, Let's go. I said it to
Crell to her. So you've seen it. You see the clip.
Let's go Calm down, babe. When I say calm down,
not because she's aggressive, not because she's screaming, it's calmed down,
let's go. I got wet too. I could have go
to hell with Julia. But in that moment, why make

(31:35):
it worse when it's already the worst. That's how I think. Now,
if anybody else think how they think, that's them. But
that's how I think, because Carlos, I I was raised
pretty much on the street. I've seen some fu somebody
throw somebody at someone. Next minute, it's like you say
something and then boom you get Now you're in the hospital,
now you're dead. So I've learned. I've done the healing

(31:59):
to learn to remove myself from situations like that, And
if anybody else want to do otherwise, feel free to
do it. But I did what I would want someone
to do for me. Now my thing is, even though
I remove myself, you decided to stay. You stay told
everybody toss the whole thing mind you. I was fine

(32:21):
with Gerd Carlos throughout the whole season. Even when episode
one came out, we were talking. Episode two came out,
we were at an even together for Netflix, taking photos
posting episode three came out and I was like, Okay,

(32:41):
I saw it. I said, I feel like, let me
call her to check on her, because this type of things,
when you have to relieve it, it's not easy to have
to rewatch yourself. I called her. She didn't pick up.
She returned, Michael, Oh my god, hey, babes, I was
just calling to make sure that you know, I know

(33:02):
how you have to watch your show again to relieve it.
Have you seen the episode. I'm so sorry this happened.
She just went, uh, I'll call you back. This was
the last time I heard from Gertie. Okay. So, and
that's when the threat started. That's when I'm being called

(33:22):
I'm being called racist. Also, I don't all the Haitian
people are on mind right now. How dare you not
helping this? How dare you not? But I'm like, wow, yeah,
so yep. And I'm not telling you this to feel
sorry for me.

Speaker 1 (33:39):
It just nosten to somebody who is a producer of
reality television, and you're talking to somebody who knows how
that ecosystem works when it comes to social media. So
you're not listen. You're no one's victim, and you're such
a strong woman. I feel horrible that. Look what you

(34:02):
said to me makes a lot of sense. That's that's
the choice you made in the moment you were there.
We were not listen you said it. People would have
done things differently. What I think I'm just shocked at
because I didn't know this obviously was the fact.

Speaker 2 (34:20):
Have you ever seen me aggressive? I'm always been the
one like guys like, unless you piss me off, I
say what I need to say and then I let
it go. Yeah, because all of that is energy, and
I don't give that away for free. My energy is
my money. That's my cash in the spiritual realm, I'm

(34:40):
rich and uping realm, and I don't give away that
for free. Or I don't give that away for free.
I don't give away that for So that's why I don't.
I let things go, and you're not gonna find me
set media on there ever we coming. I don't do
it because I know my truth.

Speaker 1 (34:59):
What I what I'm surprised is because again I didn't
know this was the fact that after that incident happened.
Because I wanted to ask you too, like, did you
did I'm sorry, did Gerdy ever come to you after
that moment happened in real time and say, I felt you.
You didn't do this for me.

Speaker 2 (35:16):
She did, she did, and I told her, I said, look,
I cannot believe you are even calling me a bad friend.
And mind you, at that moment, Gerdy knew that she
didn't know I was getting death threats, but she knew
that the ment like I was getting, like the anxiety

(35:37):
and depression was like I had a high peak because
of that I'm going through. I was going through with families. So,
like I said, what Julia did was unspeakable. But sometimes
just because you don't speak about your battles and this
is our people mistreat people because just because you look happy,

(35:58):
you're trying to be there for the person son and
they just assume you have nothing going on. I was
in my dark cast moment. Okay, I'm sure you probably
started episode. I was already going through that. None of
the girls know because I don't like to dump my

(36:18):
on other people. But I did kind of tell Gerty
even way before, girl, I don't know what's going on,
but the anxiety the depression is like and I remember
she was telling me about her the heat things she have,
uh which which I sympathize with her. What is it,
you know when you get the heat wave.

Speaker 1 (36:39):
Like all the menopause no flashes.

Speaker 2 (36:44):
Yeah, And I remember she was telling me that too.
I was like, I don't know, man, this is a lot,
you know. So we talk about that. I was going
through my while all of that was happening, and I'm like,
I just I just need to live. You don't want
to leave. I asked her, let's go, because I was
willing to live with her. Do you think and the

(37:07):
other girls on My Friend too, I'm like, let's all
live with you, let's go.

Speaker 1 (37:11):
Do you think because obviously you and Gerty are the
two black women on this show A mocks non black
women and this white woman throws drinks on the two
black girls on the show. Do you think the audience
wanted to see just the two of you have solidarity,
come together as one. And because we didn't see that that,

(37:36):
people are now blaming you. They're saying that you're kissing
up to the white girls. In the Spanish girls on
the show, they said you did not have Gertie's back
like a real sister. What do you have to say
to those people who feel like you did not stand
up for your black sister.

Speaker 2 (37:51):
Listen, they are monitoring spirits, okay, because when you done
so much chilling on yourself, you getting into a timeline
where everything is like going good for you. People will
try to come to just and I don't let this
thing attract I don't let all these negative comments. I

(38:11):
don't even let them affect me. But my thing is
these people can think however they want to think at
the end of the day, as a human being, I
know what I did. It was from my heart and
it is what it is. If they want to do
something differently, that's them. And I understand they want to
see the two black girls together, yes, but at the
same time, do you also want to just want to
see the two black girls that get because you have

(38:33):
to understand for me also, it's a trauma thing when
things like this. It could have been anyone in the cast,
not just Gerty. I would have done the same thing.
That's the way I need to put it. It could
have been anybody that would have been my exact same reaction.
So they want to see me throwing punches. I'm not

(38:56):
gonna be fake. I got wet too, But just because
I got wet, I also know that that water was
not aim at me, So me punching Julia, remove yourself
in the situation, because we'll have plenty of time to
speak to Julia. And people are gonna get mad at
you regardless if you don't do what they expect you

(39:17):
to do. Carlos, what can I do? After that whole incident,
she didn't call me. I was like waiting on a call,
and then I'm starting like guessing, like, Okay, maybe if
something else happened or you know, because I'm like, I
don't know, we live, You're gonna see like nothing happened
the whole season with her. And I actually was closer
to her this season than any of the other girls

(39:38):
that I was even closer to, And not until I
saw a post that an interview that she did. And
then on the interview there was a comment that was
made that she made and somebody wrote it down and
posted say said by Gertie, and the thing said that

(40:00):
I tried to hold her hand and portray her as
the angry black woman. I was like, what, I'm like,
It's one thing you being called racist by the audience,
they don't know it's okay, But for you now to
even take it to the next step by making it

(40:24):
seems like I'm also an actual isn't that what you mean?
You're American? That's that's pretty much saying that I'm she.

Speaker 1 (40:32):
So you're saying Gertie made a comment saying that during
that moment to.

Speaker 2 (40:37):
Read it to you, I haven't sure I'll show it
to you.

Speaker 1 (40:43):
Okay, So she made a comment about you. You're you
holding her hand and you were pretty much trying to
make her seem like the angry black woman. And for you,
as a black woman, you just felt like, wow, it's
one thing for the audience to think one thing about me.
Now you're pushing You know, you and I both know

(41:04):
what this is.

Speaker 2 (41:05):
Like. This is not funny. Do you know how hurtful
it is to have Haitian people calling you non Haitian
when you're like the most Haitian person.

Speaker 1 (41:13):
You know, the Haitian community is upset with.

Speaker 2 (41:18):
You pretty much a lot. You know, it's it's and
it's like wow, because I've always been very Haitian. It's
not a competition. But anyone who knows me know I
stand up for my country. I'm all Haitian, Like I
will go to Hadi for breakfast and come back for dinner.

(41:39):
And it's like it's one thing for the audience defense
to speculate whatever or think whatever they think, but for
you to know where we at. And then you went
on and made that comment. That's when I was like, Okay,
I see what's going on here?

Speaker 1 (41:57):
Yeah, when was, well, we know you I tape the reunion,
so but prior to the region taping, when was the
last time you and Gertie spoke?

Speaker 2 (42:07):
Well, at the reunion, I say what I needed to say,
and then after that, I kind of like I said,
I'm the type of person one s I sea my
truth and I'm like, okay, I'm over it. I don't
hold That's why I'm always going to look young. I
don't want to grudge this, you know. So you know,
normally after renial we all kind of like, you know,

(42:28):
so I went to her and say hi and whatever,
and that was the last time I spoke to her.

Speaker 1 (42:33):
You recently unfollowed Gerdy.

Speaker 2 (42:36):
Why I unfollowed her? And a lot of people are
speculating that it was after the region it was before
the reunion. I think people find out after it was before,
and part of it was because of that comment. Because
I'm like, Okay, now I see you for who you are,
because this was not the way to go about it.
I didn't like that comment at all because if anyone

(42:58):
know me, I'm not racist and don't want to be
portrayed like that. And it's up. It's up, and I'm
not here playing victim or anything. It's up. Especially I'm like,
what's the issue here? We know we gotta throw shed,
we all got to do this and that. But what
did I do to you to make you to make
me to make you you know what I'm trying.

Speaker 1 (43:21):
To say, Yeah, no, to make you say something, but
sometimes you know.

Speaker 2 (43:24):
And I decided to unfollow because I was like, sometimes
you just need a break. You just don't want to
You just need to cut that cord for a second
and breathe and regroup. So I need a break.

Speaker 1 (43:40):
Gertie responded and said, oh, I didn't know that, and
I see that I'm not following you either. Did you
block me?

Speaker 2 (43:47):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (43:47):
So you blocked Gertie.

Speaker 2 (43:48):
Yes, I told you for me to.

Speaker 1 (43:55):
Listen, like, I love your honesty. Yeah, you blocked that.

Speaker 2 (44:00):
I block a lot of people too, like many many people,
And I always tell people this, like I don't normally
unfollow people or black people, not black people, block lock.

Speaker 1 (44:15):
Black people.

Speaker 2 (44:16):
But it takes a lot like for me to like
get because I'm always like the one like you know.
Of course, like I said, I can be tough. When
someone says something to me, my comeback will always be
like oh, But then I'm like, let it go. We're good. Now,
we're good. But once I feel like, deep down, even

(44:38):
if I had done something to you, was it really
that heavy for you to call me a racist?

Speaker 1 (44:42):
Now?

Speaker 2 (44:43):
And I'm your own imagine, imagine I call you a
racist right now. It's it's worse. It's one thing to
call a white person racist, but it's another thing when
you call your own black person.

Speaker 1 (44:53):
Oh no, I'm Aliston. I'm being racists before. No, now,
so I can't imagine. Let's I will say this. I
love Gertype.

Speaker 2 (45:03):
Surely I've experienced racism too, and I'm like, really, yeah, okay, No, it.

Speaker 1 (45:08):
Had to hurt because listen, I love Gerty, I love you.
I love the fact that it was two Haitian women
on the show. And look, it doesn't mean still.

Speaker 2 (45:18):
To Haitian women on the show.

Speaker 1 (45:20):
Yes, and of course listen, as a black person we
were like, yes, like we want you all to be
a team, and I'm just being very honest with you. Listen,
we know that in some situations. It doesn't mean y'all
can't not disagree, but I think for all of us
we want some solidarity. We do want you guys to
just you know, be respectful, and it does hurt.

Speaker 2 (45:41):
We do that. But the problem is people need to
understand not everyone go around throwing punches not. We're all different,
all nine of us. We make this group work because
of different personalities. Okay, I can be like Alexia, like

(46:01):
I can't. She's like, you know me, I'm more like whoa.
You know, some of us are here and some of
us are like calm down, like not or not all
of us can be like Rise because we all have
different personalities. Some people are controat and some people are
a little bit more among the chill side. I don't
respond to things that people do with being more aggressive, unless,

(46:27):
like I said, sometimes I get out of and I'm like, okay,
calm down, fix it. That's why I'm always the first
one to apologize. Whether people are like oh yeah, she's
always kissing, She's apologized. Listen, Sometimes you just got to
be the bigger person, because when you know, when you
apologize to someone, it actually helps you, not them. I agree,

(46:49):
and people like, I'm not gonna apologies. I'm gonna hold
it and we'll hold it in. That's why you're gonna
keep getting all sort of diseases and all this and
that because you're holding too many things. And how about
you go by the bitch start screaming me Because I'm
not shy. I will literally go and hugge tree and
talk to the tree and be like take all my
pans away. And people look at me like I'm crazy.
I'm like, okay, yeah, but guess what I feel light inside? Yeah,

(47:13):
you got to learn to release and let go. You
can't judge everyone just by the way you will want to. Okay,
how can I say it? You know how like let's say,
right now, somebody do something to you. You will break this.
You can't expect everyone to do the same thing that
you will do.

Speaker 1 (47:32):
Yeah, oh no, So listen, what you're trying to say
is this, you can't expect everyone. I understand the reaction
that you would have.

Speaker 2 (47:40):
I understand the fan where disappointed. They wanted me to
do more. But in that moment I thought I was
doing more just because you want me to. You know,
it just not within me. And like I said, I
would have done the exact same thing with anyone. It's
not a girty thing. It's not added this thing or

(48:01):
that thing. That's how I am because I've done so
much healing on myself. I don't get to that level.
I try to fix situation unless I'm really, really, really pissed.
You're gonna see that side of me, and then I'm
the first. Just take me and Lisa as an example.
Last year, you know, people was like going off calling
Lisa all sort of nonsense. You know what I was doing.

(48:23):
I was online. No, don't say this about her. She's
not racist. Come on, guys, we're a group of friends.
No Lisa, Lisa, She's no way. But imagine if I
was like, yeah, yeah, you know, and that's my truth.
Some people will do different and that's them speaking of Lisa.

Speaker 1 (48:46):
Is Lisa always that late? I don't know, Listena, I
don't know too many people, Kiki that will miss a
flight to Spain, maybe have to catch another plane and
then a train and an automobile and a scooter. Like

(49:07):
what is she like is that exaggerated.

Speaker 2 (49:10):
I mean, listen, Lisa is always gonna be Lisa. Okay,
I've come to realize that Lisa, and I'm just gonna
accept her. You know, if you can change them, I'm
not trying to change anyone. Sometimes you just have to
adjust to the person. When you try so hard it's
not working, you just suggest them.

Speaker 1 (49:27):
Whose side are you on between the Larsa and Lisa beefs, Like,
do you think Lisa should unfollow Marcus? And do you
understand where lars is coming from? Or do you think
lars is over exaggerating.

Speaker 2 (49:40):
Okay, I'm actually on Larsa's side, and I'm gonna explain
why I'm on Lars's side only because Larsa introduced Lisa
to Marcus, just like Larsa introduced me to Marcus. I
was following Marcus. Marcus was following me also, even though
when Larsa and Marcus broke up, Larsa and I were

(50:00):
not in a great place. Like like I said, everybody
thinks I'm like always like with the girls, but they
don't understand I fight these girls too. You don't see everything.
Larsa and I was not in the best place, so
I was like, no, because she introduced me to him,
it will be weird to even stay in touch with him,
because at the end of day, this is my friend.
Women not be in the best of places, but this

(50:21):
is my friend. So I don't follow Marcus without even
lars I even have to ask me. But with Lisa,
I think Lisa should have done the same thing. Now
with Jody, that's a different story. Jodey is a man.
Lisa cannot control his decision. He built up a friendship
with Marcus, that's them. But Lisa, however, her loyalty I
feel like because Larsa was the one that introduced Listen,

(50:43):
if you introduced me to the person you break up
with them, are bringing up with them too?

Speaker 1 (50:49):
Period?

Speaker 2 (50:49):
That's it. That's that's you know.

Speaker 1 (50:51):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (50:52):
Yeah. So just like we love Todd when he was
with Alexia, now we can hit that. We love Lenny,
now we hit Lenny. I'm that type of friend. You're
with them, I love everything about them. You're not with them.
I hate their gods. I'll probably just go out and
when I see it, I'll be like, you are what's
a horrible person I've ever met in my life?

Speaker 1 (51:12):
Do you think Todd and a lexiy I, well get
back together?

Speaker 2 (51:14):
No, no, no, really positive. The thing is with Alexi,
I feel like she needed even though all of us
were like this, this isn't that and blah blah blah blah.
I think she was not ready. She's like me, the
whole world can tell you do this and do that.
Unless you're ready, you're not gonna do it. And I

(51:35):
think she's at that space now where she's like, you
know what, I'm ready and she did it. Yeah, so
now we're both single.

Speaker 1 (51:42):
You're a single.

Speaker 2 (51:44):
Excuse me?

Speaker 1 (51:46):
You don't have a man. No, you don't have like
a like you know, do you have a benefactor?

Speaker 2 (51:55):
What the.

Speaker 1 (51:58):
Okay?

Speaker 2 (51:59):
Sound like that person? And then when you died?

Speaker 1 (52:03):
Okay? So a bee factor is when you have a
man that you know you guys, aren't boyfriend, girlfriend, but
he takes care of you. He gives you money, cars,
Because I'm beautiful and supposed to have someone taking care
of me.

Speaker 2 (52:22):
Get you back to reality.

Speaker 1 (52:24):
All the beautiful women in my life that I know,
they all have a benefactor.

Speaker 2 (52:27):
Let me explain it to you. I broke off my
engagement three years ago when I like two weeks before
I started the show because that was like three four years.

Speaker 1 (52:40):
Yeah, three years ago, no, like yeah, yeah, like.

Speaker 2 (52:43):
Three three years yeah. So like when I started the show,
I had just broke off my engagement, and after that,
I did it people, but I just couldn't really connect
with him because for me, it can't just be about
looks and money. At one point it used to be that,
but then I'm like, I've grown, you know, myself. And
then after that, I feel like from all my previous

(53:07):
relationship it was always like, you broke up with this one,
someone's already in line. You broke up with that one,
two weeks later, you're already with someone. I'm talking about
serious relationship, like serious relationship. I will be with this
one for five years as soon as I break up
with them. Then I get with this one a week later,
and I stayed with them for three years. And then
do one from five years now. I say, oh, we
only broke up for one week. I want to get

(53:29):
back with you. I'm like, well, too late, because I'm
already with that one. So it was kind of like that.
And then after I broke up my engagement, I was like,
you know what, maybe don't get into anything serious, start
dating here and there and see. So I started going
out on dates and then I saw that didn't work.
And if you watch the last season, I said, oh,
I ended up meeting that nice guy in LA And

(53:50):
then I find out this guy, even though he was
with me, we broke up. He went to his girlfriend
and he broke up with her. Then tried to come
back and be like, oh, I broke up with her,
Can I get back with you? I was like, no, No,
you know what I'm going to do. I'm going to
take that time and heal myself, find myself because I
find out the problem is me. I keep blaming everyone. Oh, yeah,

(54:12):
you're wrong, You're wrong. But meanwhile I'm like, why do
I always scape from this one to that one? And
then they all last longer, But still why do I
keep doing it? So I was like, let me take
time for myself. So I decided to take some time
for myself. And of course, and taking time for myself,
it was the whole vibrated thing too. I was like yeah,
and then after a while he gets lonely and then
I was like no, then I just want celibate, focus

(54:34):
on my spirituality and I've been celebrated. Yeah, since last year.

Speaker 1 (54:38):
You've been celebated for a year, for over year, for
over a year.

Speaker 2 (54:42):
Actually March was a year.

Speaker 1 (54:45):
Yeah, do you miss it now?

Speaker 2 (54:48):
Because when you're focused now, become more like I want
my kingdom spouse. Like I wanted to do the work
on myself to really ground myself. Another thing, also, I
feel like I was very copend copend.

Speaker 1 (55:04):
Yeah, yeah, I'm called dependent co dependent.

Speaker 2 (55:07):
And I just was like, you know what if I
start doing the things that I want other people to
do for me, and I started to do them for myself,
then I went to force people to do it because
I'm already doing it for me, so I will attract
what I'm doing. So I'm like, go, take off your
own bill, take care of your car notes, take care
of your kids, take care of this, and now domains
are coming. They all got that together and it's me

(55:30):
And I was like, I don't know yet if I'm
ready because I'm doing everything. I buy myself flowers, I
go out on dates. You if you ever seen me
at a restaurant, buy myself being dinner. I don't think
I'm crazy because I do it all the time. I
have lunch by myself. I go to the beach. But
everything that I would want I used to want someone
to do for me. I do it for myself. Yeah,

(55:50):
and that's my thing now so and I'm enjoying it.
I'm looking younger, finer. No one is stressing me out.
My kids are getting wealth and I'm doing it all
on my own. No stress.

Speaker 1 (56:02):
You look good.

Speaker 2 (56:02):
I look really good. I'm sorry, thank you. I should
think I should say I know, because why I'm like,
why is it? Thank you?

Speaker 1 (56:10):
And I already know, like everybody should feel that way. Yeah,
who's the most famous guy you dated?

Speaker 2 (56:16):
Oh? I can't say how famous? Is he very famous?

Speaker 1 (56:22):
Is he still on TV?

Speaker 2 (56:24):
Some of them are famous, but some of them are
just high profile that I still can't say.

Speaker 1 (56:29):
Politics or movies or TV?

Speaker 2 (56:31):
Politics, movies not TV? Well movies are TV? Right?

Speaker 1 (56:38):
Music?

Speaker 2 (56:39):
Music? Yeah, but in the music, not the music.

Speaker 1 (56:43):
Not the artist.

Speaker 2 (56:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (56:49):
Yeah, give me an initialw no lot of it gave
us NBJ.

Speaker 2 (56:57):
We all thought it was Michael Jackson or Michael whatever,
and she, well, we got it right at the end.

Speaker 1 (57:04):
She was right.

Speaker 2 (57:06):
I thought it was Marchael Blixon.

Speaker 1 (57:08):
Buck Black, but I love her. Listen, this season is
so great. I happen to love Stephanie. I love this season.
I happen to love Stephanie, but there's like this love
hate with Stephanie. What can you tell us about her

(57:28):
that we may not be seeing on you know the show?
Like do you like Stephanie?

Speaker 2 (57:33):
I mean, let me tell you something. I feel like
sometimes you guys forget that. Sometimes I'm like, oh my god,
I feel like nobody's listening to me. I'm not being hurt,
so it's not you know, and I know girls saying
this now too, but I'm like, I've been saying that
too sometimes, like nobody listened to me. Nobody does nobody that.
But Stephanie came came on. She went on and said,

(57:56):
I actually I like you, but I think you talk
too much about it. And I was like, well, welcome
to the group. She came like the first thing she
said to me, you talk too much about PEPPI. I'm like,
she was, I love you, and she was like, I
freaking love you. And she was like, look, you know what,
I want to do something nice for you. I want
to do this and do that, blah blah blah blah,

(58:17):
and she was just nice and I was like, oh, okay,
well this is what happened. When you start doing the
healing work on yourself, people just start dropping, like you
got a car, you had a car, not that she
gave me a car, but you know what I mean,
would I will take that dinner burken too.

Speaker 1 (58:33):
That no.

Speaker 2 (58:36):
Part of my healing is learned not to say no,
except don't listen. If you don't count on me saying no,
I will not everything. Yes, yes, please, can you make
that double? Matter of fact, triple it. I'll take it.

(58:56):
I'll take it to go.

Speaker 1 (58:57):
Yeah, let me tell you.

Speaker 2 (58:58):
Stepan is amazing. I think she's a very great addition
to the group. She coming in hot, she's very strong.
But I also think you know her working also, like
she said, like she's like a very hard business woman.
And you know, I love like that because I get
to learn a little bit from each one of them,
you know, believe it or not, I learned a little
bit from every single one of the girls, whether they

(59:24):
like it or not. I learned a little bit about everybody,
not about from everyone.

Speaker 1 (59:29):
Yeah, there's been this big debate about who's the most
narcissistic person on the show.

Speaker 2 (59:35):
Well, you know, I think we all have a little
bit of narcissistic thread threat and us. But well, all
I know, I'm not the most narcissistic one.

Speaker 1 (59:46):
Who is it?

Speaker 2 (59:47):
I don't know. I think some of them are literally
like head to head, like right there, like who's gonna win?
There's no space in between. Well, we have a few
in the group.

Speaker 1 (59:57):
Yeah, how are things going with your son? Because I
love seeing your children on the show.

Speaker 2 (01:00:02):
God, he's good. I'm actually dropping them off tomorrow because
he's going He was here on for the summer at home.
So he's going back to school for his second year
now his sophomore year, which they're getting nicer home dorm
or whatever. I've never been to college, nicer dorms and stuff.

(01:00:23):
So I'm so proud. And tomorrow for him, I have
to get up and drive him to school, and I'm
missing already. Yeah. But my daughter started kindergarten today and
she came home. She was like, Mom, I didn't get it.
Was so excited we didn't have to go to sleep
to that. I said, no, you're not going to go
to sleep. This is no longer daycare. You and big
girls school. Now. You wanted to go to big girls

(01:00:44):
school so bad. She was so excited that she didn't
have to go to sleep. She's like, we didn't have
to go to sleep. Yeah, she started school today.

Speaker 1 (01:00:51):
Congratulations. Seriously, being a mom, I think is the most
important job in the world.

Speaker 2 (01:00:56):
Yeah, a mom is very important. But it's very tough,
especially it's a single mom because I've been taking care
of my son since he was four years old. Like,
his dad does not give one sense. And I remember
a couple of years ago I finally was like, well,
you know what, maybe I need to put you in
back Chelsea. But he was like, well if you do that,
guess what, I can actually get more money out of
you now, Because I was like, okay, let's forget about

(01:01:19):
this conversation.

Speaker 1 (01:01:20):
Yeah damn yeah, he is his father. Do they speak
or he just now they speak.

Speaker 2 (01:01:26):
He loved his dad more than me, probably because since
four years old, every single birthday, Christmas or I didn't
say every Christmas for like many years, but whatever holidays,
I will literally buy him gifts and say, your dad's
on you this, your dad's in your money. Your dad.
Because I was always the top that don't want the
kid because it's not the fault. I didn't want the
kid to think that his dad he's like not a

(01:01:49):
good dad. Now we understands he's seeing the different, like
I'm paying for this college, all the fees and stuff.
So now he's like whoa, because you have to call
me for everything. But before that, he love his dad.
And I think, even though you know, doubt that is,
that doesn't really help because he loves him so much,
because I've never made the dad look bad, and that's
with both of my kids. Why why mess up the kids'

(01:02:11):
mental health for your own choosing the wrong men. It's
not therefore, and it was not about choosing the wrong
men because my son was born out of love. It
was like playing like we're gonna have a baby, gonna this.
It's just that just didn't work out. And some men
just want to hold and I think I always peak
the wrong man. Also because of my dad, if you see,

(01:02:34):
he's a player, like and this is why I needed
to do healing on myself and take time off and say,
you know what, if you start doing the work on yourself,
you're gonna stop attracting these holes or this.

Speaker 1 (01:02:47):
Yeah good for you, Yeah, good for you. That's very very,
very smart and wise.

Speaker 2 (01:02:53):
Why were you so surprised that I'm celebrated you crazy
because let's.

Speaker 1 (01:02:57):
Say you are gorgeous and you want to check. I mean,
I'm not sure college you can, but because I'm sure
there's all around, you know, throwing at you. Child Home Deeple,
you know, well, I.

Speaker 2 (01:03:12):
Love home Deepot, but the whole house.

Speaker 1 (01:03:14):
Mela Delilah's kikiS on the river.

Speaker 2 (01:03:18):
I don't those type of I don't even want. Those
are not the places that, even if I have to
find the men that I will go to. And plus
I'm in a space now like I don't even want
to go find one. They're finding me period.

Speaker 1 (01:03:30):
Yeah, list said last question for you, would you like
to be a full time housewife?

Speaker 2 (01:03:37):
You know, I came in on the show knowing that
I was going to be a friend of and I'm like,
I don't understand the concept. A lot of people always like, oh,
she's just fighting this because she's trying so hard to
be a man cast. I'm like, I'm so happy that
God is blessing me that I'm around a nice group
of friends I can call upon. We can cry together,

(01:03:57):
laugh together, and do things together like this is exciting.
Whether I'm a friend or make cast, nothing happened before
it's time, and what do I have to lose, So
it's better to start here and you can only go
up from there. I'm always gonna look at it to deposit,
so but I have no desire. If it happened, thank God,

(01:04:18):
this is great, Thank you God, thanks for the blessing.
But if it doesn't, I am grateful that I get
to spend time with my friends and I get to
do things I get. I don't get it, like listen,
if it happened, I'm happy. If it doesn't happen, I
am as happy as to where I am because I'm
enjoying every single bit of it. And that's on my soul.

(01:04:45):
I'm telling you the truth.

Speaker 1 (01:04:48):
I see it. Thank you, Kiki. That wasn't so bad,
was it?

Speaker 2 (01:04:52):
It was so horrible, Gertie the whole half of the time.

Speaker 1 (01:04:58):
Thank you, My love, ladies and Jalapan Key key bart Yeah.
Reality with the King is executive produced by me Carlos King,
produced by Lizzie Nimitz, and a partnership with the Lack
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(01:05:21):
channel at the Carlos King Underscore