August 13, 2025 • 36 mins
The sun has officially set on Season 2 of The Valley, and Carlos and Lizzie are here with the ultimate recap. Things take a serious turn as accusations of drinking problems are thrown at the entire cast, and we’ve never seen Nia so shaken. PLUS, our predictions for next season (spoiler: Jax isn’t one of them).
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Reality with the King is hosted by me, Carlos King.
I'm an executive producer who have produced some of your
favorite shows from the Real Housewives in Atlanta, New Jersey
and my own creation, The Love and Marriage Franchise and
Bell Collective. Every episode we recap reality television from the
Real Housewives Franchise to The Bachelor or Selling Sunset, in
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addition to celebrity guests, whether in the unscripted space or
scripted as well. Hey, rain Drops of today's episode of
Reality with the King, we are finishing up the Valley.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
What a great season it has been.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
Part three reunion just air and I'm back to my
assistant Lizzie to give it all a recap.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
Hey, Lizzy, Hi, I'm excited to be here again. Thank
you for having me.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
Thanks for saying yes to this mess. We need to
just get right into it. So the reunion picked up
where leaftof last week, which is the cast talking about
Danny and his drinking.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
And I do want to stick with Danny.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
For a while as we talk about the other accusations
flying in his direction. But first and first they are saying,
you know, Danny's drinking, is it a problem, And it
seems to me that which I thought was funny. Who
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was it that said that this whole cast has a
drinking problem? Jason, Yeah, And I'm kind of like not
to like add a label onto these people, but I
feel like they're young, they're fun, they live in California,
the unreality show. I just think they'd like to drink.
And I think there's certain people who can't hold their liquor,
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and I just think Danny is one of those people.
But what do you think about that whole dialogue about it?
Speaker 3 (02:03):
Well, that's it. That's exactly what it is. And also
you said, I do want to spend some time on Danny.
Well that's really pretty much all what this was about
Danny and Janet this part three. So there's no way
that we can't spend time on Danny. I think that
that is such a tough road to walk with accusations.
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People have drinking problems, and I think that most of us,
most of us think O drinking problem means alcoholic, which
is exactly what Jesse brought up. Also, you know he said,
he said, well, my thought is that you need to
function to drink. You and I said this last week.
We think that he doesn't handle his drinking well. He
doesn't handle his alcohol well Danny, and he's a messy drunk.
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It is what it is. I think that they harped
on this a lot. I do not disagree that he
does some uncomfortable things he's drinking, But to make a
show that is so centered around one of them owns
a bar, going out and partying, I mean, did you
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watch vander Pump Rules. That's where people came from. No
one ever brought that up then when it I mean,
it was just madness, right, I mean the alcohol consumption
on that show. And I think that I think that
they are really nitpicking on one thing, and they're really
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going hard off of Danny. Hey, if you want to
feel that way about Danny, go for it. You know
he's done things that makes you think he's inappropriate and
makes you think he's a little creepy. But also look
to your right and please go hard in on Jack's
don't sit there and say, well he's trying. Please give
him the exact same energy yeah you give Danny in
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every single episode.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
Right, yeah, yeah, yeah, No, I agree with you. I
Like I said before, I think Danny's a fumboy. I
think Danny likes a drink. I think they all like
to drink. I think some of them can handle the well.
I think Danny needs to possibly just watch how much
he intakes.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
And for me.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
I mean, we all right, but that's the thing, exactly,
exactly exactly Listen. It's one thing listen not to desynthesize
exactly what happened. But if the conversation was when Danny drinks,
he gets behind the word of a car. Sure, and
and we're concerned about him putting not only his life
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but the lives of other people in jeopardy.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
Okay, that's a cost for concern.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
I think you're right In terms of this entire show,
which is a spin off of that The Pump Rules,
It's center around a bar and and and and Jack's
owning the bar and these people working there and and
and frequenting there.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
It's kind of like Cheers.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
Now, Lizzie, you're much younger than me, so I don't
know if you know about the TV show called Cheers
where every time Norm walked in, it was like, hey Norm,
so listen, maybe that Danny, Hey Danny, you know he's
walking to a bar.
Speaker 4 (05:17):
The bar tend to knows him the janitor knows him,
the bus boy knows him. Maybe that's his thing, but
I don't know, based on what I'm seeing. I just
don't think this brother is an alcoholic. I just I
just don't you.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
And if he was, it wouldn't be your place to
say that anyways.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
Oh, exactly, that's true. That that is true. That is true. Yes,
clock it.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
You know, I do have I do have two things
to say about that, though. You and I've had conversations
just in our personal downloads about all these shows, and
it kind of brings you back to the Shannon Badoor situation.
She was drinking, she did get behind a wheel, and
she she apologized, but they went on her for seasons
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about it, and at some point it's like, all right,
you made a mistake. Enough is enough. I'm not same
with you, not downplaying what happened. She got hurt herself,
she could have really hurt someone else. And the same
thing with Danny. You know, his actions really hurt someone
as well. And but but at once, at some point,
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when do you stop. And I really don't think that
Janet stops, because you see how rouled up that Nia gets.
Nia doesn't do doesn't give much emotion or drama in
the show. And I think that the way that she
defends Danny and how hard she goes and how it
just irks her to know, and we saw her walk
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out of a scene that's not the page in Queen
that I feel like I saw last sear you know,
And I think that I think Janna knows that it
gets her hYP.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
Oh for sure, for sure, for sure. I mean, listen,
it is the other reason why. And I want to
be very sensitive to this too, because sexual assault is
a real thing and it happens every day unfortunately. So
when it came to speaking of Janet, Janet accused Danny
of touching women approperly, touching their butts.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
She brought in the situation with Jasmin.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
She used the word sexual assault, and I appreciated Andy
saying like, because.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
Again, what is the definition of it.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
Then you have Jason who's a lawyer, although they clowned
him and said, honey, you.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
Are they sure did, honey, what is it? You are
like a Lindsey the wage workers.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
So look, if the cameraman drops a camera on his
so give him a call.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
If you haven't slip and fall at your job, honey,
definitely call him.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
You know the White Rubbers sold shoes in their home.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Absolutely, I don't need no problems with Jason Child.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
So Jason is like, based on the definition of Janet
saying he has sexually assaulted.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
Jasmine touching, But.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
Jason's like, that's considered battery, because I think when we
all hear sexual assault, it's sort of like, again, this
is this was this is what I thought right hearing it,
where you're sort of like forcing yourself upon somebody physically,
You're you're forcibly holding someone against their will. That's what
I thought, honestly. So to know that it was Danny
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just in appropectly touching people again Jasmine was there, I
felt it was a very dangerous claim that could have
and listen, it just wrapped, could have had some very
severe damn images to Dani's reputation.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Because yes, on one hand, you should not touch anyone
without their consent. We do.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
We know that. Don't touch my butt, I won't touch
your wars, right, But is that considered sexual assault? And
I think that's where things turn gray in this reunion.
And dare I say a little fifty shades of gray,
little darkness that I just I just didn't you know,
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I was uncomfortable.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
Yeah, I feel as a woman too, I feel really
conflicted about that statement because if you do want to
break it down, I think that it is. It's the definition.
And I think Andy handled it really well, because again,
I don't think that anyone ever, Danny and me included,
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tried to take the pain and the hurt and the
wrongness away from Jasmine. I do think that it got
out of hand with who was fighting the back all
for her. She admitted that too. She was like, I
didn't I asked you, guys, my fiance asked you to
stop talking about it. And I think that I yeah,
I just felt I felt really uncomfortable because if if
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you want to get down to the technicalities, yeah, he
did something without her consent, for sure, Yes, yeah, And
and Andy did a really good job of saying, like, Okay,
if you were to bring this to court, what would
they call it? Like you said, and I just don't
think that we talked about it last week. The apology
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and the expectations was wrong. You know, he apologized. He
really should have left it in her hands instead of saying, oh,
it's all fine, because I apologized. But I still think
that it was not Janet's place to continue on, especially
if at one point during filming that we saw and
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even on the reunion Jenna and Jasmine we're not in
one hundred percent bff place, right, So she really just
used it against Danny. He did it, So there's yeah,
I mean, what would you have done?
Speaker 2 (11:14):
What would you.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
Have have listened and given advice to? Like I think
I just would have had to say, yes, yes, they
did it, and just what sit there quietly? I mean,
Nia is is hot about this issue.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
This is reality with the King and I'm Carlos King.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
Let's get back into the show.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
Yeah, And that's the reason why I agree with you,
Lizzy when you talk about the fact that it did
appear that Janet wanted to get a rise out of
Nia and Danny. And it's again based on what we're
learning now in the world in our industry in terms
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of you know, the dudes and the don'ts that always
peer to be a little not always, but in some
cases appear.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
To be gray.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
You are right that look for sure, it's Jasmine's story
to tell, and if the person who was on the
receiving end of the inappropriate touching is saying to you
leave it alone. That doesn't give you the right of
the clearance to continue the story because at that point
it's sort of like, what is your attention there, Like
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is your attention to be a supportive friend? If your
friend is saying to you, drop it, I don't wanna
talk about anymore, and you countinue talking about it. It
does question the intention that Jannon had from the get
go when it came to this.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
And look, Jasmine called her Karen too, So I think
for me it just did I look good for Janet
at all?
Speaker 3 (12:52):
Yeah, And in Jason defending her, of course he's not
not going to defend her. That's his wife. Yes, And
that's what we look for in a housewife reunion. You know,
whenever they sit behind them, we're like, that's right, that's right,
you know, hank the horn on them, Greg yea.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
Rest.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
But it just you know, everyone's like, were you watching
the same show as us? You know, you can have
someone's back, but not say, well, Janet was escape the
whole season. You know, you guys went after her. Just
just have her back if something comes at you. Don't
bring that up, because that did look kind of silly
and and Janet. She looked uncomfortable, kind of you know.
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She she definitely was the one that teared up the most.
I think because I'm sure that that was a tough
reunion for her to go to. She looked very beautiful
to me. I'm reunion for her to go to just
be because the end of the season, I mean, she
had to leave Hawaii like no one liked her except
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for Michelle, and you know, Michelle's on the end of
the couch.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
Let's get into Michelle, because you know what they've tried
to sort of like compare things to was like, well,
you said that Michelle was a whore, and he's like,
I never said.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
She was a or okay, I said that she on
her she slept with me forbuddy.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
He heard that in the group text that Jesse wrote
that he was just doing his job and saying it
on camera. I thought that that was a low, a
very very low thing to pull out and be like, please,
I'm handing you this on a platter. Please say you
know that he called her a whore. I think that
that that didn't It's plenty of other things you can
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be mad at about. He literally read a text message.
He's the one that let it out of the group chat.
That's all he was doing was repeat what her husband
on paper said.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
Mm hmmm, let's get to Jack.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
So, as we're watching Jack's final reunion as we now
know it to be based on him quitting the show
and walking away from it, Okay, I want to make
sure I say that on the record. Based on that,
we are now seeing that in this reunion there are
conversations again just about his behavior, whether or not he's
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able to, you know, survive this life without.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
Drinking.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
And one thing that I thought was so interesting and
made me laugh because I'm like, okay, can I can
I laugh? Finally, was when they kept playing the flashbacks
of Jack saying it's my show, it's my show, it's
my show, and if you guys are mean to me.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
You're getting fired.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
And how Andy's like, show up hands if Jack's ever
said this was his show, and everybody raise their head.
That to me was so funny, but well I thought
was fascinating was the parallel that Andy mentioned where he's like,
you said that on a previous show that you were
fired from, and now you're saying it again and things
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aren't looking too good for.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
You it's like the kiss of death.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
But I, Lizzy, is what I tell all reality stars
the moment you say I'm the star or is my show?
Speaker 2 (16:27):
To me, it's the kiss of death.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
He he just really cannot catch a break with that,
and he if you if there was any question that
he wasn't a narcissist, the flashback and this conversation proved it.
I mean, he does take credit for takes credit for
so many things. He blasted all over social media, you know,
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and he was a hot topic and star of Bander
Pump Rules for a while and then he was it
And the same thing. I'm glad that Brittany said said
you were gone for thirty days and no one missed you.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
We are Dad, honey dag.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
Because we've all said it the internet, everyone who said it.
But I also didn't believe him claiming that he didn't
watch the show. I don't believe that for two seconds.
For someone that has a burner account that goes in
types with his two thumbs, hear, that's how great he is.
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He said something about like, how could you not love
this guy?
Speaker 2 (17:35):
What kind of them shoves?
Speaker 3 (17:40):
So you don't watch the show, but you're gonna go
defend all of your actions on the Internet with a
fake account.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
Boy boy, I.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
Thought that was so funny because I'm like, well, shit, Lizzy,
do I need to create a figure cowt go on
Spotify leave a five star review, which, by the way,
rain Drops leave a five star review of the podcast
out Let's get the Kick and a vice com You
have to be a narcissist to create a fake account,
okay and lead positive comments. And then he's like, I
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haven't used it in a while. Lies, lies and more lies.
But so the day was Frank right, and and.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
He kept calling him Frank Drummond, and he was like, no,
it's Frank. Do something it was from from a movie
or something goes.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
From a movie?
Speaker 3 (18:31):
Drummond, Yeah, Drummond, Drummond, what drummon?
Speaker 2 (18:39):
Whatever it is.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
How silly are you to think that one account could
could raise the public's view of you? Baby, You need
to go in there. You need to create a thousand
of them. Frank Drummond bought Drummond druman dram boom damam
create them all. The fact that.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
He's got.
Speaker 3 (19:02):
Please get a team. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
What was so interesting too, is this, Obviously we know
that when.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
It came to Jack's We're never going to deny that
he was good television at one point.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
I think the problem, though, is he drank the kool aid.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
And that's what happens when it comes to these reality
stars who are look force multipliers, polarizing to watch. You're
definitely somebody we're intrigued with. But the notion that this
show is yours and you can fire people if they're
not nice to you. But the flashback that gagged me
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because I do remember this, the fact that this motherfucker
told Lisa Vanda Pump to her face the show is
called vand Pump Rules, the setting of the show is
at her restaurants plural.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
You're telling this woman this is my show.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
And let's be clear, Lisa vand the Pump rightfully so
also has a healthy ego.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
And I'm pretty sure she was like, oh, it's happ You.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
Have lost your damn mind to keep it to even
think that.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
How quickly she got back in his face and his
reaction really was gold, you know, of like a quick
like okay, okay, okay, okay, all back down type thing.
But I mean that was that was That was great
watching two of two people who think very highly of themselves.
M h talk about whose show it is that that
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was great. I mean again, that's why we watch these shows.
Like you said, it's we're not we're not taking anything
from him that he is great television. I mean now
it's now it's just gotten out of hand and healthy
because his behavior is just so terrible as a human.
But yeah, I mean, at one point it was great
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and that's why we watched it. And he just never
really grew up.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
No, he never grew up.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
And it's sad because this man, and I keep saying
this over and over, it's rare in reality television to
have a second chance. It's just it's it's it's rare.
And the fact that he was given one and this
is what he did with it is awful. And but listen,
it's the he has to lie the bit he made
and that's just that's just where things are with it,
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similarly to sort of like where things seem to be
when it comes to the relationship with the cast, because
you know, listen, I thought the seats was great. A
lot of people said it was dark. I think, look,
you can't control the reality of what people are going
through in their lives. But for me, do you think
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with the remark of Jacks, is there anybody else that
needs to be removed to make this show better?
Speaker 2 (22:08):
Better?
Speaker 3 (22:09):
That is a strong word. I really really enjoy the
Valley I despite how dark it got, like you said,
I think I think it was wonderful. I was excited
every Tuesday to watch it. So a removal, honestly, you
and I mean you create them and run them. We've
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worked behind the scenes of a lot of shows, and
it is tough to play that family tree of connections
when there is a breakup, you know. So I'm interested
in where it goes with Jesse and Michelle. I think
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that because we were invested in the dysfunction and just
the not great relationship that they had the first season,
it was it was good to see them both on
season two. I don't know where it goes for removal.
I actually feel like we learned a lot more about
Zach this season. I liked it. I appreciated it, and
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I think that they all are really hard workers. They
want we talked about this last week. Oh yeah, we
like to spill the tea. They like to out each other.
I would not be shocked. This is just my opinion.
I know nothing. I would not be shocked if Danny
and Nia left, but only if there's terrible backlash after
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this today, you know, after the final reunion Neghbors. So
I think she enjoys it and likes it. But I
think now we understand that there are stakes. There are
You're we're gonna have to come to your house, We're
probably gonna get into your marriage. And like now, you
have four children. We know we don't really see the
kids at time. It's not a kid's show, but that's
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where they are in their reality. And if he is
going on at nights, who is helping, you know, feed
these kids? Yeah, that's us. But I don't know. But
you know what I did do, Carlos, I did. I
took one for the team and I listened to Sheena
Chay's book, Uh Coma.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
Live There, What's going on?
Speaker 1 (24:23):
Girl?
Speaker 3 (24:25):
I really enjoyed it. She she told a lot of
stories that I either had only heard part of or
some that I didn't know at all. And that was
great because I am a fan of vander Pump. Yes,
she did mention that her husband current husband brought cheated
on her while she was pregnant with their daughter. Summer Moon,
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So this was not terribly long ago, and before everything
with scandall happened. She mentioned spoiler alert rain drops that
it happened, and she didn't know about it. When it happened,
she was pregnant. And then when all of this stuff
started coming out about Sandoval and Arianna that Brock did
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sit her down and tell her that, hey, I just
want you to be aware of this in case anything
comes out. I've seen how hard all of this, you know,
infidelity has hit you with your best friend, that I
was unfaithful to you while you were pregnant. He told
her everything because he was there were rumors, I don't
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know if you remember, there was talks that maybe he
had hooked up with Raquel now yeah, and they denied it.
But because there were accusations being thrown out about that,
he just went ahead and came to her and she
did not. And this was before filming of the most
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recent season of vander Punk. So she kept this to
herself because, in her words, she didn't want to steal
any of Ariana's shine, shine being the wrong word because
she got cheated on, but she didn't want to act
insincere and drop this, you know, negative information. So she is,
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she has a small child, she is trying to navigate
filming the show. Her heart has now been broken. She's
trying to figure things out, and she just kept that
to herself. She released it in the book, which came
out last month. And I think that this opens up
a whole new story for her and Broke to tell
if they were to become full time cast members on
The Valley next season. Gives us a lot more to
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talk about.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
I'm here for I actually, yeah, because listen, that's that's
that's juicy.
Speaker 3 (26:48):
Yeah mm hmm.
Speaker 1 (26:52):
And for me, listen, the beauty of a Valley is
I will always consider this show to spin off of
Bad the Pump Rules. So what words is the fact
that the majority of the cast comes from that world
and to be able to, you know, follow the story.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
That is interesting. So Sheena and they're together.
Speaker 3 (27:13):
They are the guy yep, yeah, they chose to stay together.
He made a really kind statement on Instagram and he
basically said, you know how much he loves her, how
sorry that he is. He was not angry or didn't
want her to not put this in her book because
this is her story to tell. And yeah, and he's
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proud of her, and he'll work every day to you know,
keep the new trust going. And I think that that's
something that that they will have to work on every day.
And I think that it's also something that they might
want to work on in front of the cameras.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
So I'm here for it.
Speaker 3 (27:56):
Yeah, maybe we'll see her.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
We need a new splash of story.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
I also agree with you, listen, I think everybody should
stay with some new people coming in.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
I think may the best person win in this case.
I like a co ed show.
Speaker 1 (28:12):
I think it's I think it represents the world we
live in where it's not the world isn't so isolated
where it's like married women only hang out with their
girlfriends every day. I love the fact that the men
are there at their present. They get to speak up
for their wives or behalf of their wives, and on
behalf of their male friendship. Jacks is great television. The show,
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to me, can't survive without him. I am curious to
see where Jesse and Michell are going to take things.
I think Jesse is somebody next season that's gonna surprise
us and sort of be like the leading male, because
I think he learned from his buildin era that Okay,
I did it, you know, iconic whatever.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
But I see him being more.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
Of a leader when to come to the guys and
getting them together and being more like a big grow
But also think Jessic k Help was sub being mess sive,
which I love, and I think he'll still sprinkle some mess.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
I think he's like Peter Thomas, you know, like yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
So that.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
And I think that I saw him kind of ride
for Danny, you know, which which I thought was interesting.
He said, Danny doesn't have a drinking problem. He's and
then he's just he's playing he's playing the old jacks.
He knows who to bring together. You're right, he's gonna
take on the king be okay. And yeah, And also
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there were a few other little, small, quick telling things
that I think people are trying to keep their spots.
Janet and Zach just couldn't not stand each other right,
and her husband Jason rode for her so hard against
everyone else. Did you notice that if the end of
the episode, he kind of jumped in. Zach was on
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one side, Jane was on another, and he said, well,
hold on, Janet, are you are you listening to what
he's saying it sounds like it's oh, no, he did
it too, did it to Jack's Jack's I'm sorry, I
spoke Jack and Zach. He said, it sounds like Jack
is trying to extend an olive branch, and it's like, gosh,
you hated him.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
For your wife.
Speaker 3 (30:24):
I'll see it. So they understand the assignment. Towards the
end of the night, they're tired, probably there for nine hours,
and there's got to be some sort of reconciliation, right, like,
how do we at least close the day which put
the stamp on the season. And I think that was interesting.
I agree with you about Jesse. I think that he
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can absolutely film with Michelle. I think he's gonna like to,
you know, stir her up a little.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
And then I like the fact that he met with
the boyfriend and yes.
Speaker 3 (30:59):
Yes, yeah. And Andy also I felt like it was
a bit of a statement. Uh Andy mentioned that Jesse's
girlfriend showed up at the end of a party that
they were filming an all cast and then he said, look,
you're on a TV show regardless if she wants her
privacy respected, I want to put a mic on her
(31:19):
and I want to see what's going on. And that
was a little bit of like, hey, dude, if you
would like to continue next season, you bring whoever you're
dating on. And I thought that that was I think
I thought that that was him subtly telling him what
needs to happen to move forward.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
Can be shady a little bit.
Speaker 3 (31:39):
Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
If I was Jesse, I would say, did Jenna Alliance
have to do it? And then I should?
Speaker 3 (31:52):
I think about that far more often than.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
The tricky part.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
I mean, I want to say, you saw Smia's husband
one time in a twenty episode order.
Speaker 2 (32:02):
That's why I'm telling you. It's tricky. It's tricky. It's tricky.
These people are watching I That's the thing. When Jenna Alliance.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
Says she had a fucking fiance, not not just some
random you know, hit and quit it a fiance mm
hmm that we were not allowed to see.
Speaker 3 (32:24):
Oh her entire cats was upset about that too. Yeah yeah, yeah,
well yeah, you let me know if they come back
and we see them again. Oh, I'm not well, I've
seen that. It's I haven't seen them on my TV. Fance.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
I don't want to see them on my TV. I'm
just sag liszy.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
I mean shit, I just don't care to see them
again on my Telementaron Screen Lovely ladies, amazing, accomplished women,
gorgeous and so now TV personalities of an ensemble.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
No, thank you, just not and it's okay.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
I've done shows where I'm like, all right, mister Mark, there't.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
Won't talk about that show.
Speaker 3 (33:15):
A revoote is tricky, a cast casting is tricky. I
don't think people realize how much goes into that. You
cannot just pluck someone, even if they were had ten
tons of drama coming with them. It doesn't work like that.
It's tough, and especially when you've got you know, people
who stand Tinto's down on the old housewise.
Speaker 5 (33:37):
Hello, that's me, Hi, I'm your neighbor. It's they had
fun though, but.
Speaker 1 (33:51):
Look, based on the episode I did watch last scene
that I don't think so, but I will.
Speaker 3 (33:59):
Circle back and be positive. Who we do like is
the valley and there that way that was That was
the excellent season. I'm glad, Yeah, yeah, I'm glad that
we watched it. I loved when we got pops of
La La or Shena. I love we got to see
Lalla's baby. I personally I called you. I thought that
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that was a statement too. I thought that was very
interesting that the baby appeared on the show that she
wasn't even a cast member on. So who knows what's
in store? I mean, I would hope that they're filming
at least sometime soon so we can get it in
twenty twenty six. But I enjoyed it. I've enjoyed everyone
that we've met on the cast that has come on
Reality with King and they all.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
Huge Jasmin and Jesse for stepping into reality, but the
key you guys were great guests.
Speaker 3 (34:49):
Yeah, I'm happy for Kristen and and Nia for having
their their healthy babies, and I'm excited to see where
they go. In the meantime. I guess we'll follow Frank DuMond.
We can keep up with We can keep up with
Jacks that way.
Speaker 2 (35:09):
Listen, is that so active?
Speaker 1 (35:11):
I know he say he's for eBay or something, but
I need to know if it's active.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
I'm sure Jack to do that shit. It was like,
get out of here.
Speaker 3 (35:21):
When they showed the unseen footage of them talking about
Brittany's Jenny Craig bag that he was trying to sell
on eBay, I.
Speaker 2 (35:30):
Was like, I love this show.
Speaker 1 (35:37):
Though again great season, the Valley Cat and crew wonderful job.
I'm sad to see y'all go, but I'm happy to
know that you guys will be filming again and Lizzy
and I will be back to discuss this all again
next season.
Speaker 2 (35:52):
So thank you Lizzy for taking time out to recap
with me.
Speaker 3 (35:57):
Thank you, it was fun.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
Reality with the King is executive produced by me Carlos King,
produced by Lizzie Nimitz.
Speaker 2 (36:10):
And a partnership with the Lack Effect Network.
Speaker 1 (36:13):
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addition to celebrity guests, whether in the unscripted space or
scripted as well. Hey, rain Drops of today's episode of
Reality with the King, we are finishing up the Valley.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
What a great season it has been.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
Part three reunion just air and I'm back to my
assistant Lizzie to give it all a recap.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
Hey, Lizzy, Hi, I'm excited to be here again. Thank
you for having me.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
Thanks for saying yes to this mess. We need to
just get right into it. So the reunion picked up
where leaftof last week, which is the cast talking about
Danny and his drinking.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
And I do want to stick with Danny.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
For a while as we talk about the other accusations
flying in his direction. But first and first they are saying,
you know, Danny's drinking, is it a problem, And it
seems to me that which I thought was funny. Who
(01:35):
was it that said that this whole cast has a
drinking problem? Jason, Yeah, And I'm kind of like not
to like add a label onto these people, but I
feel like they're young, they're fun, they live in California,
the unreality show. I just think they'd like to drink.
And I think there's certain people who can't hold their liquor,
(01:58):
and I just think Danny is one of those people.
But what do you think about that whole dialogue about it?
Speaker 3 (02:03):
Well, that's it. That's exactly what it is. And also
you said, I do want to spend some time on Danny.
Well that's really pretty much all what this was about
Danny and Janet this part three. So there's no way
that we can't spend time on Danny. I think that
that is such a tough road to walk with accusations.
(02:24):
People have drinking problems, and I think that most of us,
most of us think O drinking problem means alcoholic, which
is exactly what Jesse brought up. Also, you know he said,
he said, well, my thought is that you need to
function to drink. You and I said this last week.
We think that he doesn't handle his drinking well. He
doesn't handle his alcohol well Danny, and he's a messy drunk.
(02:50):
It is what it is. I think that they harped
on this a lot. I do not disagree that he
does some uncomfortable things he's drinking, But to make a
show that is so centered around one of them owns
a bar, going out and partying, I mean, did you
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watch vander Pump Rules. That's where people came from. No
one ever brought that up then when it I mean,
it was just madness, right, I mean the alcohol consumption
on that show. And I think that I think that
they are really nitpicking on one thing, and they're really
(03:32):
going hard off of Danny. Hey, if you want to
feel that way about Danny, go for it. You know
he's done things that makes you think he's inappropriate and
makes you think he's a little creepy. But also look
to your right and please go hard in on Jack's
don't sit there and say, well he's trying. Please give
him the exact same energy yeah you give Danny in
(03:53):
every single episode.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
Right, yeah, yeah, yeah, No, I agree with you. I
Like I said before, I think Danny's a fumboy. I
think Danny likes a drink. I think they all like
to drink. I think some of them can handle the well.
I think Danny needs to possibly just watch how much
he intakes.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
And for me.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
I mean, we all right, but that's the thing, exactly,
exactly exactly Listen. It's one thing listen not to desynthesize
exactly what happened. But if the conversation was when Danny drinks,
he gets behind the word of a car. Sure, and
and we're concerned about him putting not only his life
(04:37):
but the lives of other people in jeopardy.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
Okay, that's a cost for concern.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
I think you're right In terms of this entire show,
which is a spin off of that The Pump Rules,
It's center around a bar and and and and Jack's
owning the bar and these people working there and and
and frequenting there.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
It's kind of like Cheers.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
Now, Lizzie, you're much younger than me, so I don't
know if you know about the TV show called Cheers
where every time Norm walked in, it was like, hey Norm,
so listen, maybe that Danny, Hey Danny, you know he's
walking to a bar.
Speaker 4 (05:17):
The bar tend to knows him the janitor knows him,
the bus boy knows him. Maybe that's his thing, but
I don't know, based on what I'm seeing. I just
don't think this brother is an alcoholic. I just I
just don't you.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
And if he was, it wouldn't be your place to
say that anyways.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
Oh, exactly, that's true. That that is true. That is true. Yes,
clock it.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
You know, I do have I do have two things
to say about that, though. You and I've had conversations
just in our personal downloads about all these shows, and
it kind of brings you back to the Shannon Badoor situation.
She was drinking, she did get behind a wheel, and
she she apologized, but they went on her for seasons
(06:04):
about it, and at some point it's like, all right,
you made a mistake. Enough is enough. I'm not same
with you, not downplaying what happened. She got hurt herself,
she could have really hurt someone else. And the same
thing with Danny. You know, his actions really hurt someone
as well. And but but at once, at some point,
(06:24):
when do you stop. And I really don't think that
Janet stops, because you see how rouled up that Nia gets.
Nia doesn't do doesn't give much emotion or drama in
the show. And I think that the way that she
defends Danny and how hard she goes and how it
just irks her to know, and we saw her walk
(06:45):
out of a scene that's not the page in Queen
that I feel like I saw last sear you know,
And I think that I think Janna knows that it
gets her hYP.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
Oh for sure, for sure, for sure. I mean, listen,
it is the other reason why. And I want to
be very sensitive to this too, because sexual assault is
a real thing and it happens every day unfortunately. So
when it came to speaking of Janet, Janet accused Danny
of touching women approperly, touching their butts.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
She brought in the situation with Jasmin.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
She used the word sexual assault, and I appreciated Andy
saying like, because.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
Again, what is the definition of it.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
Then you have Jason who's a lawyer, although they clowned
him and said, honey, you.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
Are they sure did, honey, what is it? You are
like a Lindsey the wage workers.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
So look, if the cameraman drops a camera on his
so give him a call.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
If you haven't slip and fall at your job, honey,
definitely call him.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
You know the White Rubbers sold shoes in their home.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Absolutely, I don't need no problems with Jason Child.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
So Jason is like, based on the definition of Janet
saying he has sexually assaulted.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
Jasmine touching, But.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
Jason's like, that's considered battery, because I think when we
all hear sexual assault, it's sort of like, again, this
is this was this is what I thought right hearing it,
where you're sort of like forcing yourself upon somebody physically,
You're you're forcibly holding someone against their will. That's what
I thought, honestly. So to know that it was Danny
(08:43):
just in appropectly touching people again Jasmine was there, I
felt it was a very dangerous claim that could have
and listen, it just wrapped, could have had some very
severe damn images to Dani's reputation.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Because yes, on one hand, you should not touch anyone
without their consent. We do.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
We know that. Don't touch my butt, I won't touch
your wars, right, But is that considered sexual assault? And
I think that's where things turn gray in this reunion.
And dare I say a little fifty shades of gray,
little darkness that I just I just didn't you know,
(09:27):
I was uncomfortable.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
Yeah, I feel as a woman too, I feel really
conflicted about that statement because if you do want to
break it down, I think that it is. It's the definition.
And I think Andy handled it really well, because again,
I don't think that anyone ever, Danny and me included,
(09:52):
tried to take the pain and the hurt and the
wrongness away from Jasmine. I do think that it got
out of hand with who was fighting the back all
for her. She admitted that too. She was like, I
didn't I asked you, guys, my fiance asked you to
stop talking about it. And I think that I yeah,
I just felt I felt really uncomfortable because if if
(10:13):
you want to get down to the technicalities, yeah, he
did something without her consent, for sure, Yes, yeah, And
and Andy did a really good job of saying, like, Okay,
if you were to bring this to court, what would
they call it? Like you said, and I just don't
think that we talked about it last week. The apology
(10:38):
and the expectations was wrong. You know, he apologized. He
really should have left it in her hands instead of saying, oh,
it's all fine, because I apologized. But I still think
that it was not Janet's place to continue on, especially
if at one point during filming that we saw and
(10:58):
even on the reunion Jenna and Jasmine we're not in
one hundred percent bff place, right, So she really just
used it against Danny. He did it, So there's yeah,
I mean, what would you have done?
Speaker 2 (11:14):
What would you.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
Have have listened and given advice to? Like I think
I just would have had to say, yes, yes, they
did it, and just what sit there quietly? I mean,
Nia is is hot about this issue.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
This is reality with the King and I'm Carlos King.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
Let's get back into the show.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
Yeah, And that's the reason why I agree with you,
Lizzy when you talk about the fact that it did
appear that Janet wanted to get a rise out of
Nia and Danny. And it's again based on what we're
learning now in the world in our industry in terms
(11:56):
of you know, the dudes and the don'ts that always
peer to be a little not always, but in some
cases appear.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
To be gray.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
You are right that look for sure, it's Jasmine's story
to tell, and if the person who was on the
receiving end of the inappropriate touching is saying to you
leave it alone. That doesn't give you the right of
the clearance to continue the story because at that point
it's sort of like, what is your attention there, Like
(12:26):
is your attention to be a supportive friend? If your
friend is saying to you, drop it, I don't wanna
talk about anymore, and you countinue talking about it. It
does question the intention that Jannon had from the get
go when it came to this.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
And look, Jasmine called her Karen too, So I think
for me it just did I look good for Janet
at all?
Speaker 3 (12:52):
Yeah, And in Jason defending her, of course he's not
not going to defend her. That's his wife. Yes, And
that's what we look for in a housewife reunion. You know,
whenever they sit behind them, we're like, that's right, that's right,
you know, hank the horn on them, Greg yea.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
Rest.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
But it just you know, everyone's like, were you watching
the same show as us? You know, you can have
someone's back, but not say, well, Janet was escape the
whole season. You know, you guys went after her. Just
just have her back if something comes at you. Don't
bring that up, because that did look kind of silly
and and Janet. She looked uncomfortable, kind of you know.
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She she definitely was the one that teared up the most.
I think because I'm sure that that was a tough
reunion for her to go to. She looked very beautiful
to me. I'm reunion for her to go to just
be because the end of the season, I mean, she
had to leave Hawaii like no one liked her except
(14:05):
for Michelle, and you know, Michelle's on the end of
the couch.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
Let's get into Michelle, because you know what they've tried
to sort of like compare things to was like, well,
you said that Michelle was a whore, and he's like,
I never said.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
She was a or okay, I said that she on
her she slept with me forbuddy.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
He heard that in the group text that Jesse wrote
that he was just doing his job and saying it
on camera. I thought that that was a low, a
very very low thing to pull out and be like, please,
I'm handing you this on a platter. Please say you
know that he called her a whore. I think that
that that didn't It's plenty of other things you can
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be mad at about. He literally read a text message.
He's the one that let it out of the group chat.
That's all he was doing was repeat what her husband
on paper said.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
Mm hmmm, let's get to Jack.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
So, as we're watching Jack's final reunion as we now
know it to be based on him quitting the show
and walking away from it, Okay, I want to make
sure I say that on the record. Based on that,
we are now seeing that in this reunion there are
conversations again just about his behavior, whether or not he's
(15:31):
able to, you know, survive this life without.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
Drinking.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
And one thing that I thought was so interesting and
made me laugh because I'm like, okay, can I can
I laugh? Finally, was when they kept playing the flashbacks
of Jack saying it's my show, it's my show, it's
my show, and if you guys are mean to me.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
You're getting fired.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
And how Andy's like, show up hands if Jack's ever
said this was his show, and everybody raise their head.
That to me was so funny, but well I thought
was fascinating was the parallel that Andy mentioned where he's like,
you said that on a previous show that you were
fired from, and now you're saying it again and things
(16:16):
aren't looking too good for.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
You it's like the kiss of death.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
But I, Lizzy, is what I tell all reality stars
the moment you say I'm the star or is my show?
Speaker 2 (16:27):
To me, it's the kiss of death.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
He he just really cannot catch a break with that,
and he if you if there was any question that
he wasn't a narcissist, the flashback and this conversation proved it.
I mean, he does take credit for takes credit for
so many things. He blasted all over social media, you know,
(16:54):
and he was a hot topic and star of Bander
Pump Rules for a while and then he was it
And the same thing. I'm glad that Brittany said said
you were gone for thirty days and no one missed you.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
We are Dad, honey dag.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
Because we've all said it the internet, everyone who said it.
But I also didn't believe him claiming that he didn't
watch the show. I don't believe that for two seconds.
For someone that has a burner account that goes in
types with his two thumbs, hear, that's how great he is.
(17:31):
He said something about like, how could you not love
this guy?
Speaker 2 (17:35):
What kind of them shoves?
Speaker 3 (17:40):
So you don't watch the show, but you're gonna go
defend all of your actions on the Internet with a
fake account.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
Boy boy, I.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
Thought that was so funny because I'm like, well, shit, Lizzy,
do I need to create a figure cowt go on
Spotify leave a five star review, which, by the way,
rain Drops leave a five star review of the podcast
out Let's get the Kick and a vice com You
have to be a narcissist to create a fake account,
okay and lead positive comments. And then he's like, I
(18:11):
haven't used it in a while. Lies, lies and more lies.
But so the day was Frank right, and and.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
He kept calling him Frank Drummond, and he was like, no,
it's Frank. Do something it was from from a movie
or something goes.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
From a movie?
Speaker 3 (18:31):
Drummond, Yeah, Drummond, Drummond, what drummon?
Speaker 2 (18:39):
Whatever it is.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
How silly are you to think that one account could
could raise the public's view of you? Baby, You need
to go in there. You need to create a thousand
of them. Frank Drummond bought Drummond druman dram boom damam
create them all. The fact that.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
He's got.
Speaker 3 (19:02):
Please get a team. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
What was so interesting too, is this, Obviously we know
that when.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
It came to Jack's We're never going to deny that
he was good television at one point.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
I think the problem, though, is he drank the kool aid.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
And that's what happens when it comes to these reality
stars who are look force multipliers, polarizing to watch. You're
definitely somebody we're intrigued with. But the notion that this
show is yours and you can fire people if they're
not nice to you. But the flashback that gagged me
(19:46):
because I do remember this, the fact that this motherfucker
told Lisa Vanda Pump to her face the show is
called vand Pump Rules, the setting of the show is
at her restaurants plural.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
You're telling this woman this is my show.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
And let's be clear, Lisa vand the Pump rightfully so
also has a healthy ego.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
And I'm pretty sure she was like, oh, it's happ You.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
Have lost your damn mind to keep it to even
think that.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
How quickly she got back in his face and his
reaction really was gold, you know, of like a quick
like okay, okay, okay, okay, all back down type thing.
But I mean that was that was That was great
watching two of two people who think very highly of themselves.
M h talk about whose show it is that that
(20:46):
was great. I mean again, that's why we watch these shows.
Like you said, it's we're not we're not taking anything
from him that he is great television. I mean now
it's now it's just gotten out of hand and healthy
because his behavior is just so terrible as a human.
But yeah, I mean, at one point it was great
(21:08):
and that's why we watched it. And he just never
really grew up.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
No, he never grew up.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
And it's sad because this man, and I keep saying
this over and over, it's rare in reality television to
have a second chance. It's just it's it's it's rare.
And the fact that he was given one and this
is what he did with it is awful. And but listen,
it's the he has to lie the bit he made
and that's just that's just where things are with it,
(21:37):
similarly to sort of like where things seem to be
when it comes to the relationship with the cast, because
you know, listen, I thought the seats was great. A
lot of people said it was dark. I think, look,
you can't control the reality of what people are going
through in their lives. But for me, do you think
(21:59):
with the remark of Jacks, is there anybody else that
needs to be removed to make this show better?
Speaker 2 (22:08):
Better?
Speaker 3 (22:09):
That is a strong word. I really really enjoy the
Valley I despite how dark it got, like you said,
I think I think it was wonderful. I was excited
every Tuesday to watch it. So a removal, honestly, you
and I mean you create them and run them. We've
(22:32):
worked behind the scenes of a lot of shows, and
it is tough to play that family tree of connections
when there is a breakup, you know. So I'm interested
in where it goes with Jesse and Michelle. I think
(22:53):
that because we were invested in the dysfunction and just
the not great relationship that they had the first season,
it was it was good to see them both on
season two. I don't know where it goes for removal.
I actually feel like we learned a lot more about
Zach this season. I liked it. I appreciated it, and
(23:19):
I think that they all are really hard workers. They
want we talked about this last week. Oh yeah, we
like to spill the tea. They like to out each other.
I would not be shocked. This is just my opinion.
I know nothing. I would not be shocked if Danny
and Nia left, but only if there's terrible backlash after
(23:40):
this today, you know, after the final reunion Neghbors. So
I think she enjoys it and likes it. But I
think now we understand that there are stakes. There are
You're we're gonna have to come to your house, We're
probably gonna get into your marriage. And like now, you
have four children. We know we don't really see the
kids at time. It's not a kid's show, but that's
(24:03):
where they are in their reality. And if he is
going on at nights, who is helping, you know, feed
these kids? Yeah, that's us. But I don't know. But
you know what I did do, Carlos, I did. I
took one for the team and I listened to Sheena
Chay's book, Uh Coma.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
Live There, What's going on?
Speaker 1 (24:23):
Girl?
Speaker 3 (24:25):
I really enjoyed it. She she told a lot of
stories that I either had only heard part of or
some that I didn't know at all. And that was
great because I am a fan of vander Pump. Yes,
she did mention that her husband current husband brought cheated
on her while she was pregnant with their daughter. Summer Moon,
(24:48):
So this was not terribly long ago, and before everything
with scandall happened. She mentioned spoiler alert rain drops that
it happened, and she didn't know about it. When it happened,
she was pregnant. And then when all of this stuff
started coming out about Sandoval and Arianna that Brock did
(25:13):
sit her down and tell her that, hey, I just
want you to be aware of this in case anything
comes out. I've seen how hard all of this, you know,
infidelity has hit you with your best friend, that I
was unfaithful to you while you were pregnant. He told
her everything because he was there were rumors, I don't
(25:33):
know if you remember, there was talks that maybe he
had hooked up with Raquel now yeah, and they denied it.
But because there were accusations being thrown out about that,
he just went ahead and came to her and she
did not. And this was before filming of the most
(25:55):
recent season of vander Punk. So she kept this to
herself because, in her words, she didn't want to steal
any of Ariana's shine, shine being the wrong word because
she got cheated on, but she didn't want to act
insincere and drop this, you know, negative information. So she is,
(26:18):
she has a small child, she is trying to navigate
filming the show. Her heart has now been broken. She's
trying to figure things out, and she just kept that
to herself. She released it in the book, which came
out last month. And I think that this opens up
a whole new story for her and Broke to tell
if they were to become full time cast members on
The Valley next season. Gives us a lot more to
(26:41):
talk about.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
I'm here for I actually, yeah, because listen, that's that's
that's juicy.
Speaker 3 (26:48):
Yeah mm hmm.
Speaker 1 (26:52):
And for me, listen, the beauty of a Valley is
I will always consider this show to spin off of
Bad the Pump Rules. So what words is the fact
that the majority of the cast comes from that world
and to be able to, you know, follow the story.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
That is interesting. So Sheena and they're together.
Speaker 3 (27:13):
They are the guy yep, yeah, they chose to stay together.
He made a really kind statement on Instagram and he
basically said, you know how much he loves her, how
sorry that he is. He was not angry or didn't
want her to not put this in her book because
this is her story to tell. And yeah, and he's
(27:36):
proud of her, and he'll work every day to you know,
keep the new trust going. And I think that that's
something that that they will have to work on every day.
And I think that it's also something that they might
want to work on in front of the cameras.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
So I'm here for it.
Speaker 3 (27:56):
Yeah, maybe we'll see her.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
We need a new splash of story.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
I also agree with you, listen, I think everybody should
stay with some new people coming in.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
I think may the best person win in this case.
I like a co ed show.
Speaker 1 (28:12):
I think it's I think it represents the world we
live in where it's not the world isn't so isolated
where it's like married women only hang out with their
girlfriends every day. I love the fact that the men
are there at their present. They get to speak up
for their wives or behalf of their wives, and on
behalf of their male friendship. Jacks is great television. The show,
(28:34):
to me, can't survive without him. I am curious to
see where Jesse and Michell are going to take things.
I think Jesse is somebody next season that's gonna surprise
us and sort of be like the leading male, because
I think he learned from his buildin era that Okay,
I did it, you know, iconic whatever.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
But I see him being more.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
Of a leader when to come to the guys and
getting them together and being more like a big grow
But also think Jessic k Help was sub being mess sive,
which I love, and I think he'll still sprinkle some mess.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
I think he's like Peter Thomas, you know, like yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
So that.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
And I think that I saw him kind of ride
for Danny, you know, which which I thought was interesting.
He said, Danny doesn't have a drinking problem. He's and
then he's just he's playing he's playing the old jacks.
He knows who to bring together. You're right, he's gonna
take on the king be okay. And yeah, And also
(29:42):
there were a few other little, small, quick telling things
that I think people are trying to keep their spots.
Janet and Zach just couldn't not stand each other right,
and her husband Jason rode for her so hard against
everyone else. Did you notice that if the end of
the episode, he kind of jumped in. Zach was on
(30:05):
one side, Jane was on another, and he said, well,
hold on, Janet, are you are you listening to what
he's saying it sounds like it's oh, no, he did
it too, did it to Jack's Jack's I'm sorry, I
spoke Jack and Zach. He said, it sounds like Jack
is trying to extend an olive branch, and it's like, gosh,
you hated him.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
For your wife.
Speaker 3 (30:24):
I'll see it. So they understand the assignment. Towards the
end of the night, they're tired, probably there for nine hours,
and there's got to be some sort of reconciliation, right, like,
how do we at least close the day which put
the stamp on the season. And I think that was interesting.
I agree with you about Jesse. I think that he
(30:47):
can absolutely film with Michelle. I think he's gonna like to,
you know, stir her up a little.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
And then I like the fact that he met with
the boyfriend and yes.
Speaker 3 (30:59):
Yes, yeah. And Andy also I felt like it was
a bit of a statement. Uh Andy mentioned that Jesse's
girlfriend showed up at the end of a party that
they were filming an all cast and then he said, look,
you're on a TV show regardless if she wants her
privacy respected, I want to put a mic on her
(31:19):
and I want to see what's going on. And that
was a little bit of like, hey, dude, if you
would like to continue next season, you bring whoever you're
dating on. And I thought that that was I think
I thought that that was him subtly telling him what
needs to happen to move forward.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
Can be shady a little bit.
Speaker 3 (31:39):
Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
If I was Jesse, I would say, did Jenna Alliance
have to do it? And then I should?
Speaker 3 (31:52):
I think about that far more often than.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
The tricky part.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
I mean, I want to say, you saw Smia's husband
one time in a twenty episode order.
Speaker 2 (32:02):
That's why I'm telling you. It's tricky. It's tricky. It's tricky.
These people are watching I That's the thing. When Jenna Alliance.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
Says she had a fucking fiance, not not just some
random you know, hit and quit it a fiance mm
hmm that we were not allowed to see.
Speaker 3 (32:24):
Oh her entire cats was upset about that too. Yeah yeah, yeah,
well yeah, you let me know if they come back
and we see them again. Oh, I'm not well, I've
seen that. It's I haven't seen them on my TV. Fance.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
I don't want to see them on my TV. I'm
just sag liszy.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
I mean shit, I just don't care to see them
again on my Telementaron Screen Lovely ladies, amazing, accomplished women,
gorgeous and so now TV personalities of an ensemble.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
No, thank you, just not and it's okay.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
I've done shows where I'm like, all right, mister Mark, there't.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
Won't talk about that show.
Speaker 3 (33:15):
A revoote is tricky, a cast casting is tricky. I
don't think people realize how much goes into that. You
cannot just pluck someone, even if they were had ten
tons of drama coming with them. It doesn't work like that.
It's tough, and especially when you've got you know, people
who stand Tinto's down on the old housewise.
Speaker 5 (33:37):
Hello, that's me, Hi, I'm your neighbor. It's they had
fun though, but.
Speaker 1 (33:51):
Look, based on the episode I did watch last scene
that I don't think so, but I will.
Speaker 3 (33:59):
Circle back and be positive. Who we do like is
the valley and there that way that was That was
the excellent season. I'm glad, Yeah, yeah, I'm glad that
we watched it. I loved when we got pops of
La La or Shena. I love we got to see
Lalla's baby. I personally I called you. I thought that
(34:20):
that was a statement too. I thought that was very
interesting that the baby appeared on the show that she
wasn't even a cast member on. So who knows what's
in store? I mean, I would hope that they're filming
at least sometime soon so we can get it in
twenty twenty six. But I enjoyed it. I've enjoyed everyone
that we've met on the cast that has come on
Reality with King and they all.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
Huge Jasmin and Jesse for stepping into reality, but the
key you guys were great guests.
Speaker 3 (34:49):
Yeah, I'm happy for Kristen and and Nia for having
their their healthy babies, and I'm excited to see where
they go. In the meantime. I guess we'll follow Frank DuMond.
We can keep up with We can keep up with
Jacks that way.
Speaker 2 (35:09):
Listen, is that so active?
Speaker 1 (35:11):
I know he say he's for eBay or something, but
I need to know if it's active.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
I'm sure Jack to do that shit. It was like,
get out of here.
Speaker 3 (35:21):
When they showed the unseen footage of them talking about
Brittany's Jenny Craig bag that he was trying to sell
on eBay, I.
Speaker 2 (35:30):
Was like, I love this show.
Speaker 1 (35:37):
Though again great season, the Valley Cat and crew wonderful job.
I'm sad to see y'all go, but I'm happy to
know that you guys will be filming again and Lizzy
and I will be back to discuss this all again
next season.
Speaker 2 (35:52):
So thank you Lizzy for taking time out to recap
with me.
Speaker 3 (35:57):
Thank you, it was fun.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
Reality with the King is executive produced by me Carlos King,
produced by Lizzie Nimitz.
Speaker 2 (36:10):
And a partnership with the Lack Effect Network.
Speaker 1 (36:13):
You can also find us on my YouTube channel at
the Carlos King Underscore
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