October 9, 2025 • 49 mins
Snow Hunny-Bunnies! We’ve got THE Monica Garcia on Reality with the King to recap this week’s Real Housewives of Salt Lake City, and she is the real deal! Monica opens up about her life now and shares her thoughts on this season. Things get emotional when the topic turns to Bronwyn… and wait, did we just witness a Kenya Moore wannabe moment? Tune in for all the tea!
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Reality with the King is hosted by me, Carlos King.
I'm an executive producer who have produced some of your
favorite shows from the Real Housewives in Atlanta, New Jersey
and my own creation, The Love and Marriage Franchise and
Bell Collective. Every episode, we recap reality television from the
Real Housewives Franchise to The Bachelor or Selling Sunset. In
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addition to celebrity guests, whether in the unscripted space or
scripted as well.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Ray Drops, the time has come.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
You guys have been waiting for this collaboration for almost
two years.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Let's you write it to it.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
Ray Drops the icon motherfucking Monica Garcia and this bitch.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Oh my god, Ray Drop John Up Hoddy. Yes, I'm
so excited. I'm so excited to be here. I can't
even believe.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
This is happening right now, matching Loki, I know.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
I know what I can't.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
I can't no, Monica, first of all, I have I'm like,
I'm like shaking because I know me too.
Speaker 4 (01:18):
The way I've manifested this moment. You can't even you literally,
I can't.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
No, girlfriend, I manifested this. Listen the rainbows.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
I am a Monica Garcia stand yeah, and you and
I follow each other social media and listen, you are
the gift that keeps so giving.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
You are such an icon to me. I don't know
too many women.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
Besides Danielle Style for Sursey Who. But no, you're honestly
like somebody that came into an existing show and turned
it around. I miss you dearly, but I'm happy to
talk to you so well. The first thing I know,
the rank I want to know, especially.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
Me, right, how are you doing? How's life for you?
Speaker 1 (02:09):
You know?
Speaker 3 (02:10):
Let me just tell you something.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
The fact that I don't have cameras on my life
is a crime. Like my life is insane. It's been nuts.
I mean, you know, everybody knows. I keep it one
hundred and I'm in the postpartum trenches right now and
it's a beautiful mess. Right, every day is a beautiful mess.
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I struggle. I'm in therapy, bitch. I'm just trying to
survive on the d just trying to survive.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
And the thing is, though, like you you really gave
birth to a beautiful baby girl, So like, how was
that all going along?
Speaker 2 (02:46):
How old is she now? She's true?
Speaker 3 (02:48):
Yeah, she's so cute.
Speaker 4 (02:50):
She just turned six months she's amazing. She's been the
biggest joy in all of our lives. Her sister's lover
so much. She's been so great. But yeah, starting over
with the baby phase is no joke.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
Yeah, and how is the baby daddy? Is everything good?
Speaker 3 (03:10):
It's so good. He's an incredible dad.
Speaker 4 (03:13):
It's been so you know how they say, there's always
like those reels that are like, if you think you
love him, now wait until you see him with your baby.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
And it's so true.
Speaker 4 (03:22):
He's just elevated into a different level for me just
watching him with his daughter.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
It's been amazing.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
Oh good, listen. I am extremely happy for you. Life
has thrown a couple of curveballs. But I think the
biggest big of the fact that you are resilient.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
Me and the rain drops and the fans.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
We miss you. We want you back on television screen.
So we'll get into a couple of those things later.
Our first things first, Yes, Monica Garcia is here because
she said yes to me, and trust me, I'm not
the only one who wanted her to do this, So
I don't take this for granted that Monica Garcia has
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agreed to recap the latest episode of the Real House
loss of Selec City with me, and we're about to
get into the latest episode.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
Are you ready for.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
This, Monica?
Speaker 2 (04:18):
Let me tell you.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
Okay, let me tell you the way I have been asked.
Speaker 4 (04:21):
I'm about to wreffle some feathers because I have been
asked by so many people to recap this damn show,
and I have said no to every single person.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
You are the only one that I.
Speaker 4 (04:32):
Was like, I'm gonna do this because I respect you
so much. You are always there for me in my
corner and I love you for that. I have not
watched this show since my season until I had to
recap it with you boo.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
So yeah, this has been a truth for me for sure.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
I was like screaming the whole time.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
Dad, Lissa Honor, I don't think this for granted. And look,
we are going to have fun doing this. I can't
wait to talk about it with you. You saw the latest episode.
Let's get right into it.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
So listen.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
Lisa Barlow had a lunch where she wanted all the
girls to come so that she's able to talk about
these lawsuits that.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
Are happening in her life. Brahma talked about.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
It is featured in the Salt Lake Tribune, which is
a prestigious.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
Publication in Salt Lake City.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
Before we begin to that, I want to ask you this,
in salt Lake City, how big of a story are
Lisa's lawsuits for it to be featured in the Tribune.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
Well, let me tell you this.
Speaker 4 (05:45):
Lisa's lawsuits are something that everybody talks about. Whether she
wants to admit that or not, that's a completely separate subject,
right her lawsuits.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
Everybody knows about them.
Speaker 4 (05:57):
She was taken to court by her manufacturing company up
in like Oggen a little bit, and she settled with them,
so she could say that was dismissed.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
But she's making monthly payments to them.
Speaker 4 (06:09):
Right, Like, these lawsuits are things that have been going
on for years. I mean I went to a birthday
dinner and spoke with somebody that was telling me about
a separate lawsuit that involved Lisa.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
So I mean these are things.
Speaker 4 (06:22):
That look look, every housewife has had a lawsuit or
two or three or ten. You know, it's kind of
just like par for the course. But they are factual, So.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
Dismissed, settled, making payments.
Speaker 4 (06:38):
You can label it however you want, but are they
are out there.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
Yeah, yeah, so it's not that broad when.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
Decided to just do all this research, it's it's a
talk of the town. People are talking about it, whether
you have birthday dinners, brunches, skiing, people are talking about So.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
Yeah, when you saw the scene in.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
This episode where Lisa had this lunch and she printed
off post a boards, which that's I was like, so
funny with the dismissed on things that actually weren't dismissed.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Do you think do you think.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
Lisa cares a great deal about what people think about
her that she didn't realize that writing dismissed on a
lawsuit that is ongoing was not the flex that she
thought it was.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
Yeah, I mean, so, can I just tell you my.
Speaker 4 (07:38):
First thoughts were it was it was like she was
trying to be Kenya, which you could never because Kenya
had her receipts printed out on big old boards too,
And it felt like she was trying to kind of
follow in those footsteps, which.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
Is like, no, baby girl.
Speaker 4 (07:54):
But yeah, it definitely flopped. You could tell nobody was
buying it. Nobody was. Everyone was like, this doesn't prove anything.
You know, the lawsuits they were still there. Then they
still existed. They still happened, whether they were like I said,
dismiss settled making payments, honey, there's still it was still
a thing. They were still real, they existed. The only
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thing that she proved really was.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
Oh, okay, so there are lawsuits. There were lawsuits.
Speaker 4 (08:20):
So that was a fact, you know what I mean,
I don't think it and how she was hoping for
it to land, which you know, unfortunately, that's you know,
the burn book situation.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
You better put fun at your own dad self. Not
that you say, Lisa, first of all, you flop. Try
to have a KNA moment. Yeah, also flop because look
my burn book I thought was gonna be a moment
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at Monica I love you, Da Boots say Monica, I
love you. But that Burke was a flop. What to
DND She said, Girl, it was a flop. But let's
be cleary, honest, think everything exactly.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
And I can own that. I can yep. That's did
a flap because a lot of shit got edited out.
Speaker 4 (09:15):
And maybe in Lisa's defense, right, we're gonna play Devil's advocate,
maybe shit was edited out that it didn't land because
there were certain pieces taking out, which is what happened
with the burn book, So who knows who knows?
Speaker 2 (09:30):
Points are made and points are valid?
Speaker 3 (09:33):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (09:33):
You, First of all, I want to ask you your opinion. Yes,
what are your thoughts?
Speaker 1 (09:38):
Monica Garcia, Oh, Bronwyn.
Speaker 4 (09:44):
It's hard because I've never met her and she is
trying to make her way on this cast, which I
completely understand how difficult that is. I commend her for
bringing more to the table than Heather has and five seasons,
and I'm proud of her for showing parts of her
life that most of the casts won't.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
And I know you know that's true. I know you
know that's true.
Speaker 4 (10:17):
She's doing a great job because she is out here
at least show a shit that some people.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
Haven't shown in six seasons. So I'm proud of her
for that.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
Yes, yes, I mean listen, the moment you say something
I disagree with, I will let you know.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
And so far it hasn't happened yet.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
Look, speaking of Heather, during the lunch scene, she tried
to come across as this peacemaker one of the girls
that Look, you guys are being mean to each other.
You're not hearing each other out. You know, you're disrespecting
you know each other when it comes to you.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
Know, Lisa's son's businesses and out it belongs to Walmart.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
You guys are disrespecting each other when Angie Ate saying
you know you do you do French fries, I do franchise.
First of all, when that line was said, do you
think Angie rehearsed it or did that come off the dome?
Speaker 3 (11:16):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (11:17):
I think Angie rehearses a lot of things, like you
perk your range rover under a car port.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
I think there's a.
Speaker 4 (11:21):
Lot of things that are discussed previously beforehand and are
made sure to hit bump bump, bump bump.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
But also, can we for one that's that up?
Speaker 4 (11:31):
Let's not diss Walmart because let's not, for a second,
act like any of those women wouldn't love to have
a corp like Walmart under their belt.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (11:41):
If you can achieve a Walmart level of success and franchise, okay,
you have made it. And second of all, let's not
act like we wouldn't all love a McDonald's deal, okay,
or an in and out Burger deal or whatever. Like
I'm sure Angie, if Wendy's called her right now, would
take a French fried deal as well. So you know,
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I think there's just these low blows that you know,
get thrown across the table and it is what it is.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
We all love a.
Speaker 4 (12:09):
Little shade for sure, but I do I do think
that like the Walmart stuff was a little like like
we all wouldn't love to have an account that Walmart has,
Like we'd love our bank accounts to be a Walmart
bank account.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
You know.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
Oh, it's a it's a billion dollar business and it's
not that the French.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
Eye t exactly exactly.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
Well, listen, I will.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
Say this, I do love Angie down. I think she's
a great addition to the show when it comes to habit. Though,
I do want to get your thoughts on it because
you obviously work with her and we are We're all
aware that your last scene, not the reunion, your last
theme on the show, when you got on the trip
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Heather was the one that sort of led the charge
and let's just call it getting you off the show.
Let's just let's just call it a faced right. I
found it interesting that in this season and a little
bit of last season, I know you're gonna watch it,
so we can focus on this episode she appears to
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come across as a peacemaker.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
I don't based on what I'm seeing.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
I can only based off what I'm seeing, and yes,
things aren't shown and things get added out. I personally
have said that when Heather blamed some of the production
allegedly giving her the black eye, I was done with
that with with her in terms of like, I was
so insulted as a producer that you would blame some
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crew members on a black eye that we now know
Jim Shaw gave you allegedly. I'll just here for that,
is it? It Heather's person now to be a peacemaker
that she's trying to present the season.
Speaker 4 (14:04):
Look, if there's one thing that Heather is good for,
it's a bullshit monologue. So she can say whatever she
wants to say across the table to make it look
like a peacemaker or whatever. She doesn't give a fuck
about peace, Like, let's be so for real right now.
I mean, what she did, like you said, with the
production thing caused an entire investigation. I mean with like
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law enforcement and attorneys like everybody.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
Like are you kidding me?
Speaker 2 (14:32):
So?
Speaker 3 (14:32):
I mean Heather can sit across the table and you guys,
I mean, that's all.
Speaker 4 (14:39):
That's all we get from her? Are these rehearsed monologues
one hundred percent? You know, So, I mean, how lucky
for her that that's all she has to deliver, that's
all that's expected. You can just hide the rest of
your life and sit there and give us a good
monologue every now and then. Lucky, I mean she is
sitting in the sweet spot of housewives.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
Like, I'm all, did it come?
Speaker 4 (15:07):
That's okay, Okay, I'm on the show, but I don't
have to show my life like lucky.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
She's very lucky.
Speaker 4 (15:15):
Yeah, you know what odd that we don't hear like
scandalous stuff about her.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
That's weird to me.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
Why is that the case?
Speaker 1 (15:27):
I will say, it does appear she has phoned in
for the past couple of seasons I watched. I watched
Salt Lake City, you know, the first season after the
rain Drop, so you have to watch it. Of course,
was very honest that I started watching it again when
you joined. I made that very clear because the Raindrop
says there's this woman in Monica Garcia that you're going
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to stand for.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
And then I started watching it again.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
Heather in the beginning, based on what the feedback was
from the fans she sort of was emerging in the
beginning as the face of this show, being central snowflake
and sort of like the Queen Bee in a sense.
I maybe, oh, well, that's what I felt they were
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trying to touch in the beginning.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
I don't see that anymore.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
Why do you think Heather is getting away with not
having a storyline unlike the other women are giving something real?
Speaker 3 (16:33):
I do not know.
Speaker 4 (16:34):
Please explain that to me, because I am sitting here thinking.
You have people that have come on, not even just me,
I mean, there's been other one season people. You have Dana,
you have Angie Harrington, you have all these other people
that have come on for only one season that I
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feel had so much to offer. We're willing to kind
of show everything and not get more than a season.
So I mean, for me, it's baffling. I never really
saw her as the Queen Bee until I was on
the show, and then I was like, this, this mother,
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she's got some pull and I don't know why.
Speaker 3 (17:22):
But because I can't, I don't understand. If you look
at that cask and you lay.
Speaker 4 (17:27):
It all out, what has she given?
Speaker 3 (17:30):
I mean, it's been six seasons. I don't even know
her favorite color. I really don't.
Speaker 4 (17:35):
Who are you what is going on She's gotten away
with not like showing her dating life, not really talking about,
you know, her family, not bringing them on the DA.
You know, it's kind of like I do feel, even
as someone watching the show, that that's almost what's expected, right,
Like you're gonna show us the nitty gritty of what
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is going on.
Speaker 3 (17:56):
I mean, we've had.
Speaker 4 (17:57):
Housewives bear it all on this show and give everything
to this show, and so to see her get away
with I'm sorry, bare minimum mediocrity is astounding to me
that she gets to keep her place there. I just
I don't. I will never understand that. I really really,
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I really won't.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
I don't. I don't get it.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
No, and look, I'm a producer. I don't get it either.
Listens listens.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
Not everybody you know has a great personal story at
the same time as other people. Right, So I'll say that.
But what I will say as somebody who has watched
the show, and again I have caught up on it
when I wasn't watching it because the rain drop said
watch it. I've never I've never seen Heather give a
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lot to the show's terms of personal story. I've seen
the ex husband and the daughters, and her daughters are
gorgeous and she's a great mom.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
Outside of that, I haven't really stepped.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
Into her world to where I felt like, look, you
could say what from a Lisa Barlow. I think Lisa
Barlo lays all on the table, Angie Broun, when you
know Mary with Robert Jr. A lot of those things later, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
Yeah, yeah, but I really I don't get it. But
I do want to ask you this. Towards the end
of that.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
Scene, the ladies decided to just forgive each other. Lisa
has an emotional not from your eyeshidy, Yes, I'll get
into it first, because my grandma to come from them
eye study. Lisa had an emotional apology to Angie.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
She said she loves her.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
She told Heather, I love you, You're always, you know,
on my side, but also tell me when I'm wrong.
And then after that, Britney posts a video where.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
Immediately after that huge confrontation.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
Where Whitney left the restaurant, right what we saw of
Britney's Instagram page was the ladies laughing with each other,
hugging each other, you know, and We're sort of like, wait,
wait a second, we just saw you guys rip each
other apart. Now, Brittany was in the comments because a
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lot of people were saying, is this show fake? How
can you go from an argument and all of a sudden,
you guys are partying with each other. Brittany responded and said,
this is what real friends do. You fight big, but
you forgive each other and you love big. What did
you think about that, Monicus, because I know you saw
the video as well.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
Did I did see that?
Speaker 2 (20:38):
Yeah? Do you think that was fake?
Speaker 3 (20:42):
Look? When I went into reunion, I had the same feeling,
which was they have all said some of the nastiest
things about each other, truly. I mean you've got circle
jerk shit going around, right, Like, let's be so for
real if someone said that about your husband, I mean,
you've got these horrible things being said, worse than anything
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reality Bontisas said, right, And it was just like, I
forgive you, I'm sorry, I forgive you, I'm sorry, I
forgive you, I'm sorry. There's something truly inauthentic to me
about that. I understand that a real friendship you do
have conflict, you do have resolution, but not like that,
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not like that, not where you're literally ripping each other's
heads off, going down to the depths of hades and
then cheers, I love you, I love you, I love you.
Like no, that's not realistic. I'm sorry, it's not.
Speaker 4 (21:39):
You need time to process, you need time to heal,
you need time to think reflect honestly, like Lisa and
Bronwin did, how we see them come together later individually
and then have a discussion about it, talk through it,
and then move forward from there.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
I think the way that that lunch went, you've got.
Speaker 4 (21:58):
Angie standing up across I mean, if there's one thing
Andree's gonna do.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
It's also stand up across the table. I can.
Speaker 4 (22:03):
I mean, there needs to be like a slideshow of
how many times she stood up across the table, yelling,
screaming at each other there, I mean, Whitney's like and
then it's just like yeeres, It's like.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
Seeing we did it, you guys, we did it, we
did it. You know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (22:20):
It's just it feels so it doesn't feel real, right,
And then you do have Brittany posting that video where
everyone is just kumbaya laughing whatever, And like I said,
that can happen that you know, there's there's fights and friendships.
It's like sisters, right right, But at the same time
it just felt yeah, it didn't It didn't sit right.
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It didn't feel right. It felt very like, Okay, we
we did our we did our work. Now let's go play.
You know what I mean, kind of you.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
That's what you're saying, Monica, is what the audience echoing
and listen.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
I worked on Atlanta Wives, I work on Jersey Baby.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
When you know, listen, let's uh yeah, girls got into it.
It took Heaven on Earth and Carlos King to get
them to film again.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
It took it took an intervention, It took mediation.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
It took everything in the world, prayers and counsel to
get Meni and Kim to film with each other a
year later.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
You know, let's not forget about portion Kenya, let's.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
Not even talk about Danielle and and Teresa and Jacqueline
and kill my Man's out.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
It took a minute. It took it took a minute.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
I agree with you in the sense of, like, yes,
cast member to our real friends can fight, you know,
similarly to like Marisol and Alexi on Miami Housewives, Robin Robin,
Robin and Jaselle on Potomac like real friends, like even
even I'll say this.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
The realist friendship.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
I think on the show that that is still tainted,
right and we'll get into this later, But who I
believe are really friends is Meredith and Lisa.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
Mm hmmmm hmmm. Do you agree with that?
Speaker 1 (24:16):
I do?
Speaker 3 (24:17):
I do?
Speaker 4 (24:17):
I do, I actually really do. I think that every
other relationship is a relationship of convenience or alliance or coworkers.
I don't think that these women.
Speaker 3 (24:31):
Are hanging out.
Speaker 4 (24:32):
Look, when I was around with jen Shaw that entire time,
she did not hang out with one of them once.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
So I just don't see.
Speaker 4 (24:41):
Like these women really being genuine, real friends outside of it.
I think it ebbs and flows based on the season,
on whose friends and who has made their little packs.
I do think that Lisa and Meredith do definitely put
in the effort to to remain where they are, if
that makes sense. I think that they have something outside
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of the show. I could see them hanging out in
the future, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
I don't.
Speaker 4 (25:08):
I don't see Heather and Bronwyn hanging out in the future.
Speaker 3 (25:12):
I don't you know what I mean. I don't know
if that makes sense.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
Yeah, yeah, it makes it makes total sense. I don't
think how they liked Brahmin at all. And I think
Brahmwen is so real. She's like, girl, whatever, do you
agree with you? Because even when you saw Bronwin and
Lisa have their one on one in this episode and
they had to address once again their issues, that to
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me was realistic in terms of we can agree to
forgive each other, but we really have to like work
towards building our friendship. Because Bromwyn was recommended by Lisa
to be on the show, and like Bromwin said, I
tell you a joke about I have to perform, you know,
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things to get closed as a joke, and years later
you run that back in my face to embarrass me.
Speaker 4 (26:07):
And who hasn't done that in a relationship? I'm sorry,
who hasn't done that?
Speaker 2 (26:14):
Okay?
Speaker 3 (26:18):
It's like, please please.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
Right that Whitley said, I do that, like I think
we all do it. I'm like, go ahead with me.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
So I agree with you that it takes a minute
to rebuild it.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
I was shocked that the moment this scene was over,
they're toasting to the weekend.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
But yeah, it.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
Also is confusing because we saw Angie tail Heather that
a woman walked into her salon, oh yeah, reading representing Lisa,
saying I'm here to collect the product.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
That Lisa has here, only for.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
Lisa to text Angie pretty much dissing her salon, calling
it dusty girl. I want my stuff back and all
of these things, and you're using someone's credit card to
go on vacations.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
I'm what happened to the kumbaya?
Speaker 4 (27:17):
Well, it was fake, just like Gens, I'm like, thank
you for val.
Speaker 3 (27:21):
Okay, so we're not crazy. That was bullshit and it
was fake just like we assumed, you know what I mean,
like there was nothing off that. It's not realistic.
Speaker 4 (27:31):
You can't throw shit like that at each other and
then kumbaya and expect it to really actually be kumbaya.
Speaker 3 (27:37):
There's no way. There's no way.
Speaker 4 (27:39):
So I mean, to me, that made sense. Go get
my shit from that bitches fucking salon for dusty, crusty,
musty salon, and I'm gonna venmo her this little coin.
And that's how I really feel good for you, because
that is that was probably how you really felt. You
didn't feel like I love you, Angie, and I just
a lot.
Speaker 3 (27:58):
Like, No, you wanted to get your shit and go.
You know that was real?
Speaker 2 (28:04):
Good for her, No, it was real.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
But look, I want to get your thoughts on this
because I want to know if b Monica Garcia would
have played this the same way.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
So after this incident happens at Angie salon Yeah, She
then meets.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
With Meredith Oh yes, and tells Meredith, look, I thought
me and Lisa were good.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
Apparently were not. This is what she did to me.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
So I'm going to tell you everything that she said
to me when you two were not in a good place.
She Angie told Meredith that Lisa told Angie to dig
up dirt on her. M you, you got your ass
handed to you kicked out of the Cool Girls Club
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for allegedly doing the same thing.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
Right. Meredith then says I don't believe it and.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
Apparently just okay, I'm gonna end it here because I'm
gonna range to follow where I'm going. Yes, two episodes ago,
rain Drops, if you all remember when Bronwyn read Lisa
and bro and Lisa said I'm gonna create a website
and list all of your shit and brown goes.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
Okay, Lisa, we know that's what you do.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
Only for two episodes later for Angie to tell Meredith
Lisa told me to dig up stuff on you.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
Do you believe it?
Speaker 3 (29:53):
Let me just tell you. Let me just tell you,
carl Us, because I want to scream right now. Let
me tell you.
Speaker 4 (30:00):
When I saw that happen, I didn't expect this the
validation I felt I could exhale. When I had everybody
send me that clip of Lisa saying I'm gonna.
Speaker 3 (30:14):
Create a page. Da da da da da, I'm gonna.
Speaker 4 (30:17):
Create it, and I'm gonna tell her, I was like, exactly,
And then when Angie said what she's I was like,
thank you, because in that motherfucking burn book that nobody
saw was the proof of Lisa and other people. Okay,
Heather asking us to post off, telling us where to postuff,
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you should post this, blah blah blah blah blah blah,
pretty much proving like they knew about the page, they
knew who do text.
Speaker 3 (30:45):
Okay, this wasn't even in DMS, this was in straight text.
Speaker 4 (30:48):
Okay, I know for a fact that Lisa does that shit.
So to sit there and hear Angie say that was
so val. Angie is not lying. She is not lying,
if Meredith wants to believe it or not. I love Meredith.
I love Meredith down, I love her family, I love
her kids. I hope that Meredith does believe Angie. I
could see why she's hesitant. But these women absolutely do
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that shit. I've been on the receiving end. I've been
Angie where they've been like, look into this and you
should post that, and you should say this so I
can bring up that, and da.
Speaker 3 (31:22):
Da da da da.
Speaker 4 (31:23):
So one hundred percent Angie is not lying. I will say.
I could see, and I want to know if you
caught this as a producer. When Angie started to bring
that up, you could see a moment in Angie where
she was like, am I really about to say this?
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You could see you could see like, Okay, I have
to bring this up. Do I really want to bring
this up? Am I really gonna go here? You could
see the moment where she was like, and she's like,
once I say this, it's out there, and she did.
She open the gates of hell because Lisa is not.
Lisa's gonna come for that ass. Okay, She's gonna come
for that ass, and I personally wouldn't have played it
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exactly that way.
Speaker 3 (32:10):
To answer your question, I would have done it in
front of Lisa.
Speaker 4 (32:14):
I would have done it with Lisa right there, and
I would have said, you want to tell your best
friend right here what the fuck you've been saying about
her and how I should do her dirty on your advice.
I would have done it like that. I would have
called her out right in the moment. Right you don't
get a chance to think about it. You don't get
a chance.
Speaker 3 (32:32):
To, you know, cover your tracks.
Speaker 4 (32:34):
We're gonna do it right here, right now, and let
the chips fall where they may.
Speaker 3 (32:39):
But Angie is one hundred percent telling the truth.
Speaker 4 (32:42):
And that's why the real gag is the fact that
these women act like I am so different than them,
Because as you can see, she's out here making threats
to be an online website. She's out here telling people
how Lisa's smart.
Speaker 3 (32:59):
I'll give her that, because she she.
Speaker 4 (33:01):
Goes like this, well, I didn't do it, you know,
But here's all the info I gave you to do
it yourself.
Speaker 3 (33:08):
But I didn't do it, you know. So I'm proud
of andree for doing that. But I could tell she.
Speaker 4 (33:13):
Was like, holy fuck, I'm really about to say this.
Do I want to do this good for her? Though
she's she's not lying, she's not lying. And that's the
real gag about all of this reality Vontee shit, you know?
Speaker 2 (33:26):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (33:26):
I mean so, the thing is this, I've always said
this to the rain Drops that when it comes to
these shows, they're not all the sup Yeah, they're they're
for some of the casts, some some some rain Drops,
not all some some some. Yeah, some of them are
friends because I'm an up and alliance, not because a
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be true friendship. I will go out on a limb
and say this. I strongly believe Lisa and Meredith know
so much shit about each other, and we saw a
glimpse of that on the Hot Mic seasons ago where
Lisa was venting to a producer about Meredith. I'm not
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going to repeat the thing she said because it's inappropriate,
but rain Drops, y'all do your own research if you
don't remember. Yep. I think Lisa and Meredith, in my opinion,
have agreed to not throw dirt on each other because
they know too much.
Speaker 2 (34:27):
And I think.
Speaker 1 (34:30):
Meredith knows it's true, but she cannot go against their path.
Speaker 4 (34:37):
And I have always said the same exact thing about
Jen and Heather were about to see when she get
out of prison and they bring Jen's ass back.
Speaker 1 (34:54):
By the way rain drops countdown, Jen Shaw is getting
out of prison in three hundred and twenty days, and
I hope.
Speaker 4 (35:01):
She comes and I hope she cleans the motherfucking floor
with them, because the way I don't even believe Heather,
I don't think that Jen gave her that black guy.
But whatever, I hope that Jen comes out and I hope.
But I have always said the same exact thing I
think that Jen and Heather. Actually I know, I know
that Jen and Heather have a lot of shit on
each other. And the same way that you're reading Lisa
(35:22):
and Meredith is how.
Speaker 3 (35:23):
I feel about Heather and Jen. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
Have you spoken to Jen Shaw since she's been in prison?
Speaker 3 (35:32):
No? No, no, no, she.
Speaker 2 (35:36):
Has me style her team nobody.
Speaker 3 (35:38):
No.
Speaker 2 (35:39):
No.
Speaker 4 (35:40):
If we ever ever had words again when she came out,
it would be the first time I have not spoken
to her in years.
Speaker 3 (35:49):
So yeah, you.
Speaker 2 (35:52):
Know, the rank doesn't want to know.
Speaker 1 (35:53):
I have to ask yes one of the things in
this episode, and I was like, I'm so thrilled that
I get to talk to Monica to recap this episode,
because not only was it the girls getting into it
with the cat fights and all that, this episode, Monica
has some personal story that I was like, Ooh, I
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wonder if some of these things hit home to Monica.
The first thing I want to get into is Mary
talking to her cousin Big Joe about, you know, she's
opening up a church and he's helping her with it,
and she sort of starts intimating about things that happen
(36:39):
in her personal life with her mother. Yes, she talked
about how when her grandmother passed away, she was very
careful with her words right when she said, my grandmother
had wishes that she wanted fulfilled. Right now, we all
know that, you know, supposedly because I'm not sure if
Mary confirmed it, So I'll just say supposedly allegedly for
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those reasons.
Speaker 2 (37:03):
But word on the street is the fact that allegedly
one of the.
Speaker 1 (37:10):
Grandmother's wishes was for Mary to marry her husband, which
is Mary's step grandfather, not her blood grandfather. So she
was I thought that was very interesting the way she
said that.
Speaker 2 (37:27):
But what she did talk about was the fact that
where her grandmother did lead.
Speaker 1 (37:33):
She also the mother also wanted to take over the
church and how that did not happen to the point
where she got it from the church pretty much says
she's leaving.
Speaker 2 (37:45):
They said police was called astarted someone.
Speaker 1 (37:49):
Now, it was a very carefully worded scene. And the
last thing was how the mother. I'm gonna say, allegedly
she's in heaven. The mother allegedly put articles about Mary
saying that she was a victim in her marriage and
was manipulated to be in this marriage.
Speaker 2 (38:09):
What did you think about all of that? And I
was so.
Speaker 1 (38:14):
I feel so emotional watching that because we're married to
how to deal with that to fell super bad for her?
Speaker 4 (38:20):
Yeah no, And I'm so glad you brought this up
because I do want to talk about this. First of all,
Mary is I don't care what anybody says about Mary.
That woman is the only one that gave a damn
about my mental health when everything went down.
Speaker 3 (38:36):
She is the only one.
Speaker 4 (38:37):
That cared if I was alive for real, because of
everything I was going through, the way I was being treated,
the other stuff that was going on behind the scenes.
So shout out forever to Mary for being an actual
human being and caring about my well being as a person.
Aside from all the bullshit, I will say I was
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specifically triggered while that in relation to the fact that
her mom was publicly speaking against her and saying horrible
things about her, because I experienced that with my mother,
with her rants on me on Twitter about me and
my children and whatever. And it is a different kind
of betrayal when that comes from not just even a
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family member, but from your mother, from your mother. So
for me, I one hundred percent related to her in
that moment, and you know, it really made me reflect.
I have not had any relationship with my mom since
finale aired. There is zero relationship. We haven't spoken. I
(39:44):
want nothing to do with that. And part of that too,
is because of her behavior online after the fact, And
so I related to her saying, you know, there's a
sense of it's closed, like that chapter has closed for
now and that being done, and that was that was
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very intense. I will say props to Mary. I mean,
she is showing her personal life like nobody else on
that casts right now, and she continues to do so,
and it's not easy, and I'm so proud of her
for doing that.
Speaker 1 (40:20):
It's hard oh, I listen. Let's let's let's get one
thing clear. Mary has single handedly given not only Salt
Lake City, but the franchise as a whole, some of
the most personal stories in a real sense that I
have seen in years, from talking about her son, Robert Jr.
And dealing with his addiction issues, and my prayers go
(40:43):
out to Robert Jr. Still today and to marry the family.
When she opened up opened up in this episode about
her grandmother, her mom, And the reason why I said
she was very careful with her worst is because I
still think for her she does not want to disrespect
her mother, and and although her mother has since passed away, you.
Speaker 2 (41:04):
Could tell that she still wants to find.
Speaker 1 (41:07):
A way to tell her truth but also find a
way and in a sense to honor her, if that
makes any sense. But yeah, but khudo, Mary, I'm telling you,
Mary is the gift that keeps on giving. She is
needed for the show. Even her commentaries on the sidelines
are hilarius. But it's her personal story that I think
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is what's keeping solidity.
Speaker 3 (41:31):
She carrying one hundred percent.
Speaker 4 (41:33):
Like for other people that are bringing no personal story,
She's got it all covered for them and there and
they should be so grateful for her for bringing that
element to the show because otherwise it's non existence aside
from Bronwyn, right, and what bron Win's showing with her mother.
So yeah, yeah, no, and no.
Speaker 2 (41:52):
Not the perfect segue into it.
Speaker 1 (41:54):
Listen, I'm a Bronwin Stan and that scene with her
mother in this episode, because last week's episode it was
a doozy when they talked about her father, her mother's
husband as well having Alzheimer's and some of the digs
that were happening even in that scene, like well this
(42:15):
will be you and a few years with your husband Todd,
and I'm like mom was going on. So ye. In
this episode, Brohman had a daughter, Gwynn, who has a
boyfriend that sometime lives there. And what was interesting is
Brahman mentioned how Gwynn was the same age as her
(42:35):
when she got pregnant, and that opened up Pandora's box
for us to learn Monica that brohm AND's mother obviously
was not happy that her daughter was a teen mom,
to the point that when Brahman and her sister were
pregnant at the same time and they were getting ready
for a baby, Shopper how Brahmin's mom refused to buy
(43:01):
a gift for her stand it for her sister.
Speaker 3 (43:06):
The baby gap story was brew Yeah.
Speaker 1 (43:09):
Again, I thought of you just based on the issues
that we've seen in the show you have with your mom.
Speaker 2 (43:17):
Talk to us about that scene between.
Speaker 1 (43:20):
Brahmin and her mother, because holy smoke, I was it
was it was drawing to hear barb Brahm is bringing
it to a personal story.
Speaker 3 (43:30):
Yes, one hundred percent.
Speaker 4 (43:33):
You know, I would love to talk to Bronwyn, to
be honest, I did not, I think because I was
also pregnant as a teen, and I think that it
would be really with a mother that is very difficult, right,
I think it would be really cathartic on some level
to be able to speak to someone in regards to that.
What really gutted me and kind of my jaw hit
(43:56):
the floor, to be honest, which is hard to do.
Speaker 3 (43:59):
But when the mother she was saying, you know, Bronwin.
Speaker 4 (44:03):
Was saying, I wasn't able to have this, and I
wasn't able to have a baby shower, and I couldn't
be celebrated, And the mother's response.
Speaker 3 (44:09):
Was, how do you think I felt having to hide it?
Jaw Carlos.
Speaker 4 (44:19):
That was equivalent to me when I said to my mom,
you put me in the trunk and she said, that
happened one time, bitch, I was in that truck. Like what,
It's the same thing, Like, well, how do you think
I feel having to hide it? It's like what your
daughter was the one going through what she was going through,
(44:40):
and you're gonna sit here and say, well, it happened
one time, Well, how do you think I felt?
Speaker 1 (44:44):
Like? What the.
Speaker 4 (44:47):
I honestly, it was it. It definitely felt like. Look,
I'm hoping that Bronwyin kind of has some realizations like
I did. When you're in it and this is your norm,
you don't see and process things the same as when
you are sitting back watching it on the screen. So
(45:07):
I'm wondering how Bronwyn felt watching that back. It's an
out of body experience. For me, it was very eye
opening and led to me ultimately deciding I had to
cut that relationship off for my own health. So it's
it's it was very Yeah, it felt like I was
(45:28):
watching me and my mom again, to be honest, and
I'm glad you know that Bronwyn is sharing that that
was brutal I couldn't believe it, and just the smirks
and stuff that the mom was making, I just it
was very icky.
Speaker 3 (45:48):
It was very icky.
Speaker 2 (45:50):
Yeah yeah, yeah, Now it made me sad. And what
was so interesting?
Speaker 1 (45:56):
And I always wondered this when a parent can visibly
see across from them their child uncomfortable and crying, and.
Speaker 2 (46:08):
How it doesn't move them.
Speaker 1 (46:11):
I think that's a part for me, Like brahmant looks
uncomfortable and said, and she's tearing up and the mother
is stone cold, And I was like, I feel that,
and I.
Speaker 2 (46:23):
Promised you I thought of you. I thought of you.
Speaker 1 (46:25):
In that moment, I was like, God, I thank you
for allowing Monica and I to have this conversation because
I just wanted to hear your POV and listen, I
agree with you. In a perfect world, I would love
to see you and Brahman talk about this because I
do think on that show Brahman needs somebody who relate
(46:46):
to her, and I think you may be the only
one who could.
Speaker 3 (46:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (46:51):
It was.
Speaker 3 (46:53):
Like I said, I haven't watched this show since my season,
so seeing that, I was like, whoah, Like what are
the odds?
Speaker 4 (47:02):
Honestly, Carlos look I don't believe in coincidences. I feel
like everything happens for a reason. There was a reason
why I said no to everybody else and yes to you,
and there was a reason that that happened at this
point in time, right now and on this particular episode,
because that, Yeah, when you have a mom like that,
(47:24):
you do feel completely alone and like nobody understands. So
to watch that with Bronwyn, obviously I'm not I don't
wish that on anybody, but it was very much like wow,
Like to see a similar relationship continued on from me
and my mom felt in a way healing for me, like, Okay,
I'm not the only one that just displayed a relationship
(47:46):
like that with their mother, because as you saw, the
cast for me and my mom.
Speaker 3 (47:52):
Was very cruel.
Speaker 4 (47:53):
It was like I was a piece of crap. They
couldn't understand how someone could treat their mother like that.
Speaker 3 (47:58):
Dah da da da da.
Speaker 4 (47:59):
And like you said, I feel like Bronon really is
the only person on that cast I would understand why
I am the way I am towards my mother, you know.
So it was it was pretty intense, for sure.
Speaker 2 (48:12):
No, it was, it was.
Speaker 1 (48:13):
It was and look I will say this, it made
me miss you more on the show, and I believe
that you I don't believe become in sentences as well,
and I know that this happened for a reason, and
I can't thank you enough for saying yes to me.
I'm going to talk to you offline, but what I
will say to you is thank you for stepping into
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Reality but the King, because as you know, I'm a
fan and I have been for the moment you grace
the screen, and I'm so happy that we got a chance.
Speaker 2 (48:45):
To finally and I hope this is one of many yes.
Yes be too Okay, all right, guys, given up for
Monica Garci.
Speaker 3 (48:57):
Thank you, Carlos.
Speaker 1 (49:02):
Reality with the King is executive produced by Me Carlos King,
produced by Lizzie Nimitz, and a partnership with the Lack
Effect Network. You can also find us on my YouTube
channel at the Carlos King Underscore
Reality with the King is hosted by me, Carlos King.
I'm an executive producer who have produced some of your
favorite shows from the Real Housewives in Atlanta, New Jersey
and my own creation, The Love and Marriage Franchise and
Bell Collective. Every episode, we recap reality television from the
Real Housewives Franchise to The Bachelor or Selling Sunset. In
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addition to celebrity guests, whether in the unscripted space or
scripted as well.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Ray Drops, the time has come.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
You guys have been waiting for this collaboration for almost
two years.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Let's you write it to it.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
Ray Drops the icon motherfucking Monica Garcia and this bitch.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Oh my god, Ray Drop John Up Hoddy. Yes, I'm
so excited. I'm so excited to be here. I can't
even believe.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
This is happening right now, matching Loki, I know.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
I know what I can't.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
I can't no, Monica, first of all, I have I'm like,
I'm like shaking because I know me too.
Speaker 4 (01:18):
The way I've manifested this moment. You can't even you literally,
I can't.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
No, girlfriend, I manifested this. Listen the rainbows.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
I am a Monica Garcia stand yeah, and you and
I follow each other social media and listen, you are
the gift that keeps so giving.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
You are such an icon to me. I don't know
too many women.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
Besides Danielle Style for Sursey Who. But no, you're honestly
like somebody that came into an existing show and turned
it around. I miss you dearly, but I'm happy to
talk to you so well. The first thing I know,
the rank I want to know, especially.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
Me, right, how are you doing? How's life for you?
Speaker 1 (02:09):
You know?
Speaker 3 (02:10):
Let me just tell you something.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
The fact that I don't have cameras on my life
is a crime. Like my life is insane. It's been nuts.
I mean, you know, everybody knows. I keep it one
hundred and I'm in the postpartum trenches right now and
it's a beautiful mess. Right, every day is a beautiful mess.
(02:32):
I struggle. I'm in therapy, bitch. I'm just trying to
survive on the d just trying to survive.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
And the thing is, though, like you you really gave
birth to a beautiful baby girl, So like, how was
that all going along?
Speaker 2 (02:46):
How old is she now? She's true?
Speaker 3 (02:48):
Yeah, she's so cute.
Speaker 4 (02:50):
She just turned six months she's amazing. She's been the
biggest joy in all of our lives. Her sister's lover
so much. She's been so great. But yeah, starting over
with the baby phase is no joke.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
Yeah, and how is the baby daddy? Is everything good?
Speaker 3 (03:10):
It's so good. He's an incredible dad.
Speaker 4 (03:13):
It's been so you know how they say, there's always
like those reels that are like, if you think you
love him, now wait until you see him with your baby.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
And it's so true.
Speaker 4 (03:22):
He's just elevated into a different level for me just
watching him with his daughter.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
It's been amazing.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
Oh good, listen. I am extremely happy for you. Life
has thrown a couple of curveballs. But I think the
biggest big of the fact that you are resilient.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
Me and the rain drops and the fans.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
We miss you. We want you back on television screen.
So we'll get into a couple of those things later.
Our first things first, Yes, Monica Garcia is here because
she said yes to me, and trust me, I'm not
the only one who wanted her to do this, So
I don't take this for granted that Monica Garcia has
(04:06):
agreed to recap the latest episode of the Real House
loss of Selec City with me, and we're about to
get into the latest episode.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
Are you ready for.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
This, Monica?
Speaker 2 (04:18):
Let me tell you.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
Okay, let me tell you the way I have been asked.
Speaker 4 (04:21):
I'm about to wreffle some feathers because I have been
asked by so many people to recap this damn show,
and I have said no to every single person.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
You are the only one that I.
Speaker 4 (04:32):
Was like, I'm gonna do this because I respect you
so much. You are always there for me in my
corner and I love you for that. I have not
watched this show since my season until I had to
recap it with you boo.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
So yeah, this has been a truth for me for sure.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
I was like screaming the whole time.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
Dad, Lissa Honor, I don't think this for granted. And look,
we are going to have fun doing this. I can't
wait to talk about it with you. You saw the latest episode.
Let's get right into it.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
So listen.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
Lisa Barlow had a lunch where she wanted all the
girls to come so that she's able to talk about
these lawsuits that.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
Are happening in her life. Brahma talked about.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
It is featured in the Salt Lake Tribune, which is
a prestigious.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
Publication in Salt Lake City.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
Before we begin to that, I want to ask you this,
in salt Lake City, how big of a story are
Lisa's lawsuits for it to be featured in the Tribune.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
Well, let me tell you this.
Speaker 4 (05:45):
Lisa's lawsuits are something that everybody talks about. Whether she
wants to admit that or not, that's a completely separate subject,
right her lawsuits.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
Everybody knows about them.
Speaker 4 (05:57):
She was taken to court by her manufacturing company up
in like Oggen a little bit, and she settled with them,
so she could say that was dismissed.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
But she's making monthly payments to them.
Speaker 4 (06:09):
Right, Like, these lawsuits are things that have been going
on for years. I mean I went to a birthday
dinner and spoke with somebody that was telling me about
a separate lawsuit that involved Lisa.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
So I mean these are things.
Speaker 4 (06:22):
That look look, every housewife has had a lawsuit or
two or three or ten. You know, it's kind of
just like par for the course. But they are factual, So.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
Dismissed, settled, making payments.
Speaker 4 (06:38):
You can label it however you want, but are they
are out there.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
Yeah, yeah, so it's not that broad when.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
Decided to just do all this research, it's it's a
talk of the town. People are talking about it, whether
you have birthday dinners, brunches, skiing, people are talking about So.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
Yeah, when you saw the scene in.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
This episode where Lisa had this lunch and she printed
off post a boards, which that's I was like, so
funny with the dismissed on things that actually weren't dismissed.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Do you think do you think.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
Lisa cares a great deal about what people think about
her that she didn't realize that writing dismissed on a
lawsuit that is ongoing was not the flex that she
thought it was.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
Yeah, I mean, so, can I just tell you my.
Speaker 4 (07:38):
First thoughts were it was it was like she was
trying to be Kenya, which you could never because Kenya
had her receipts printed out on big old boards too,
And it felt like she was trying to kind of
follow in those footsteps, which.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
Is like, no, baby girl.
Speaker 4 (07:54):
But yeah, it definitely flopped. You could tell nobody was
buying it. Nobody was. Everyone was like, this doesn't prove anything.
You know, the lawsuits they were still there. Then they
still existed. They still happened, whether they were like I said,
dismiss settled making payments, honey, there's still it was still
a thing. They were still real, they existed. The only
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thing that she proved really was.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
Oh, okay, so there are lawsuits. There were lawsuits.
Speaker 4 (08:20):
So that was a fact, you know what I mean,
I don't think it and how she was hoping for
it to land, which you know, unfortunately, that's you know,
the burn book situation.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
You better put fun at your own dad self. Not
that you say, Lisa, first of all, you flop. Try
to have a KNA moment. Yeah, also flop because look
my burn book I thought was gonna be a moment
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at Monica I love you, Da Boots say Monica, I
love you. But that Burke was a flop. What to
DND She said, Girl, it was a flop. But let's
be cleary, honest, think everything exactly.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
And I can own that. I can yep. That's did
a flap because a lot of shit got edited out.
Speaker 4 (09:15):
And maybe in Lisa's defense, right, we're gonna play Devil's advocate,
maybe shit was edited out that it didn't land because
there were certain pieces taking out, which is what happened
with the burn book, So who knows who knows?
Speaker 2 (09:30):
Points are made and points are valid?
Speaker 3 (09:33):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (09:33):
You, First of all, I want to ask you your opinion. Yes,
what are your thoughts?
Speaker 1 (09:38):
Monica Garcia, Oh, Bronwyn.
Speaker 4 (09:44):
It's hard because I've never met her and she is
trying to make her way on this cast, which I
completely understand how difficult that is. I commend her for
bringing more to the table than Heather has and five seasons,
and I'm proud of her for showing parts of her
life that most of the casts won't.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
And I know you know that's true. I know you
know that's true.
Speaker 4 (10:17):
She's doing a great job because she is out here
at least show a shit that some people.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
Haven't shown in six seasons. So I'm proud of her
for that.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
Yes, yes, I mean listen, the moment you say something
I disagree with, I will let you know.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
And so far it hasn't happened yet.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
Look, speaking of Heather, during the lunch scene, she tried
to come across as this peacemaker one of the girls
that Look, you guys are being mean to each other.
You're not hearing each other out. You know, you're disrespecting
you know each other when it comes to you.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
Know, Lisa's son's businesses and out it belongs to Walmart.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
You guys are disrespecting each other when Angie Ate saying
you know you do you do French fries, I do franchise.
First of all, when that line was said, do you
think Angie rehearsed it or did that come off the dome?
Speaker 3 (11:16):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (11:17):
I think Angie rehearses a lot of things, like you
perk your range rover under a car port.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
I think there's a.
Speaker 4 (11:21):
Lot of things that are discussed previously beforehand and are
made sure to hit bump bump, bump bump.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
But also, can we for one that's that up?
Speaker 4 (11:31):
Let's not diss Walmart because let's not, for a second,
act like any of those women wouldn't love to have
a corp like Walmart under their belt.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (11:41):
If you can achieve a Walmart level of success and franchise, okay,
you have made it. And second of all, let's not
act like we wouldn't all love a McDonald's deal, okay,
or an in and out Burger deal or whatever. Like
I'm sure Angie, if Wendy's called her right now, would
take a French fried deal as well. So you know,
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I think there's just these low blows that you know,
get thrown across the table and it is what it is.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
We all love a.
Speaker 4 (12:09):
Little shade for sure, but I do I do think
that like the Walmart stuff was a little like like
we all wouldn't love to have an account that Walmart has,
Like we'd love our bank accounts to be a Walmart
bank account.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
You know.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
Oh, it's a it's a billion dollar business and it's
not that the French.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
Eye t exactly exactly.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
Well, listen, I will.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
Say this, I do love Angie down. I think she's
a great addition to the show when it comes to habit. Though,
I do want to get your thoughts on it because
you obviously work with her and we are We're all
aware that your last scene, not the reunion, your last
theme on the show, when you got on the trip
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Heather was the one that sort of led the charge
and let's just call it getting you off the show.
Let's just let's just call it a faced right. I
found it interesting that in this season and a little
bit of last season, I know you're gonna watch it,
so we can focus on this episode she appears to
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come across as a peacemaker.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
I don't based on what I'm seeing.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
I can only based off what I'm seeing, and yes,
things aren't shown and things get added out. I personally
have said that when Heather blamed some of the production
allegedly giving her the black eye, I was done with
that with with her in terms of like, I was
so insulted as a producer that you would blame some
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crew members on a black eye that we now know
Jim Shaw gave you allegedly. I'll just here for that,
is it? It Heather's person now to be a peacemaker
that she's trying to present the season.
Speaker 4 (14:04):
Look, if there's one thing that Heather is good for,
it's a bullshit monologue. So she can say whatever she
wants to say across the table to make it look
like a peacemaker or whatever. She doesn't give a fuck
about peace, Like, let's be so for real right now.
I mean, what she did, like you said, with the
production thing caused an entire investigation. I mean with like
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law enforcement and attorneys like everybody.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
Like are you kidding me?
Speaker 2 (14:32):
So?
Speaker 3 (14:32):
I mean Heather can sit across the table and you guys,
I mean, that's all.
Speaker 4 (14:39):
That's all we get from her? Are these rehearsed monologues
one hundred percent? You know, So, I mean, how lucky
for her that that's all she has to deliver, that's
all that's expected. You can just hide the rest of
your life and sit there and give us a good
monologue every now and then. Lucky, I mean she is
sitting in the sweet spot of housewives.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
Like, I'm all, did it come?
Speaker 4 (15:07):
That's okay, Okay, I'm on the show, but I don't
have to show my life like lucky.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
She's very lucky.
Speaker 4 (15:15):
Yeah, you know what odd that we don't hear like
scandalous stuff about her.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
That's weird to me.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
Why is that the case?
Speaker 1 (15:27):
I will say, it does appear she has phoned in
for the past couple of seasons I watched. I watched
Salt Lake City, you know, the first season after the
rain Drop, so you have to watch it. Of course,
was very honest that I started watching it again when
you joined. I made that very clear because the Raindrop
says there's this woman in Monica Garcia that you're going
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to stand for.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
And then I started watching it again.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
Heather in the beginning, based on what the feedback was
from the fans she sort of was emerging in the
beginning as the face of this show, being central snowflake
and sort of like the Queen Bee in a sense.
I maybe, oh, well, that's what I felt they were
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trying to touch in the beginning.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
I don't see that anymore.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
Why do you think Heather is getting away with not
having a storyline unlike the other women are giving something real?
Speaker 3 (16:33):
I do not know.
Speaker 4 (16:34):
Please explain that to me, because I am sitting here thinking.
You have people that have come on, not even just me,
I mean, there's been other one season people. You have Dana,
you have Angie Harrington, you have all these other people
that have come on for only one season that I
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feel had so much to offer. We're willing to kind
of show everything and not get more than a season.
So I mean, for me, it's baffling. I never really
saw her as the Queen Bee until I was on
the show, and then I was like, this, this mother,
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she's got some pull and I don't know why.
Speaker 3 (17:22):
But because I can't, I don't understand. If you look
at that cask and you lay.
Speaker 4 (17:27):
It all out, what has she given?
Speaker 3 (17:30):
I mean, it's been six seasons. I don't even know
her favorite color. I really don't.
Speaker 4 (17:35):
Who are you what is going on She's gotten away
with not like showing her dating life, not really talking about,
you know, her family, not bringing them on the DA.
You know, it's kind of like I do feel, even
as someone watching the show, that that's almost what's expected, right,
Like you're gonna show us the nitty gritty of what
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is going on.
Speaker 3 (17:56):
I mean, we've had.
Speaker 4 (17:57):
Housewives bear it all on this show and give everything
to this show, and so to see her get away
with I'm sorry, bare minimum mediocrity is astounding to me
that she gets to keep her place there. I just
I don't. I will never understand that. I really really,
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I really won't.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
I don't. I don't get it.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
No, and look, I'm a producer. I don't get it either.
Listens listens.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
Not everybody you know has a great personal story at
the same time as other people. Right, So I'll say that.
But what I will say as somebody who has watched
the show, and again I have caught up on it
when I wasn't watching it because the rain drop said
watch it. I've never I've never seen Heather give a
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lot to the show's terms of personal story. I've seen
the ex husband and the daughters, and her daughters are
gorgeous and she's a great mom.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
Outside of that, I haven't really stepped.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
Into her world to where I felt like, look, you
could say what from a Lisa Barlow. I think Lisa
Barlo lays all on the table, Angie Broun, when you
know Mary with Robert Jr. A lot of those things later, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
Yeah, yeah, but I really I don't get it. But
I do want to ask you this. Towards the end
of that.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
Scene, the ladies decided to just forgive each other. Lisa
has an emotional not from your eyeshidy, Yes, I'll get
into it first, because my grandma to come from them
eye study. Lisa had an emotional apology to Angie.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
She said she loves her.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
She told Heather, I love you, You're always, you know,
on my side, but also tell me when I'm wrong.
And then after that, Britney posts a video where.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
Immediately after that huge confrontation.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
Where Whitney left the restaurant, right what we saw of
Britney's Instagram page was the ladies laughing with each other,
hugging each other, you know, and We're sort of like, wait,
wait a second, we just saw you guys rip each
other apart. Now, Brittany was in the comments because a
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lot of people were saying, is this show fake? How
can you go from an argument and all of a sudden,
you guys are partying with each other. Brittany responded and said,
this is what real friends do. You fight big, but
you forgive each other and you love big. What did
you think about that, Monicus, because I know you saw
the video as well.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
Did I did see that?
Speaker 2 (20:38):
Yeah? Do you think that was fake?
Speaker 3 (20:42):
Look? When I went into reunion, I had the same feeling,
which was they have all said some of the nastiest
things about each other, truly. I mean you've got circle
jerk shit going around, right, Like, let's be so for
real if someone said that about your husband, I mean,
you've got these horrible things being said, worse than anything
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reality Bontisas said, right, And it was just like, I
forgive you, I'm sorry, I forgive you, I'm sorry, I
forgive you, I'm sorry. There's something truly inauthentic to me
about that. I understand that a real friendship you do
have conflict, you do have resolution, but not like that,
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not like that, not where you're literally ripping each other's
heads off, going down to the depths of hades and
then cheers, I love you, I love you, I love you.
Like no, that's not realistic. I'm sorry, it's not.
Speaker 4 (21:39):
You need time to process, you need time to heal,
you need time to think reflect honestly, like Lisa and
Bronwin did, how we see them come together later individually
and then have a discussion about it, talk through it,
and then move forward from there.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
I think the way that that lunch went, you've got.
Speaker 4 (21:58):
Angie standing up across I mean, if there's one thing
Andree's gonna do.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
It's also stand up across the table. I can.
Speaker 4 (22:03):
I mean, there needs to be like a slideshow of
how many times she stood up across the table, yelling,
screaming at each other there, I mean, Whitney's like and
then it's just like yeeres, It's like.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
Seeing we did it, you guys, we did it, we
did it. You know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (22:20):
It's just it feels so it doesn't feel real, right,
And then you do have Brittany posting that video where
everyone is just kumbaya laughing whatever, And like I said,
that can happen that you know, there's there's fights and friendships.
It's like sisters, right right, But at the same time
it just felt yeah, it didn't It didn't sit right.
(22:43):
It didn't feel right. It felt very like, Okay, we
we did our we did our work. Now let's go play.
You know what I mean, kind of you.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
That's what you're saying, Monica, is what the audience echoing
and listen.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
I worked on Atlanta Wives, I work on Jersey Baby.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
When you know, listen, let's uh yeah, girls got into it.
It took Heaven on Earth and Carlos King to get
them to film again.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
It took it took an intervention, It took mediation.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
It took everything in the world, prayers and counsel to
get Meni and Kim to film with each other a
year later.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
You know, let's not forget about portion Kenya, let's.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
Not even talk about Danielle and and Teresa and Jacqueline
and kill my Man's out.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
It took a minute. It took it took a minute.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
I agree with you in the sense of, like, yes,
cast member to our real friends can fight, you know,
similarly to like Marisol and Alexi on Miami Housewives, Robin Robin,
Robin and Jaselle on Potomac like real friends, like even
even I'll say this.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
The realist friendship.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
I think on the show that that is still tainted,
right and we'll get into this later, But who I
believe are really friends is Meredith and Lisa.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
Mm hmmmm hmmm. Do you agree with that?
Speaker 1 (24:16):
I do?
Speaker 3 (24:17):
I do?
Speaker 4 (24:17):
I do, I actually really do. I think that every
other relationship is a relationship of convenience or alliance or coworkers.
I don't think that these women.
Speaker 3 (24:31):
Are hanging out.
Speaker 4 (24:32):
Look, when I was around with jen Shaw that entire time,
she did not hang out with one of them once.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
So I just don't see.
Speaker 4 (24:41):
Like these women really being genuine, real friends outside of it.
I think it ebbs and flows based on the season,
on whose friends and who has made their little packs.
I do think that Lisa and Meredith do definitely put
in the effort to to remain where they are, if
that makes sense. I think that they have something outside
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of the show. I could see them hanging out in
the future, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
I don't.
Speaker 4 (25:08):
I don't see Heather and Bronwyn hanging out in the future.
Speaker 3 (25:12):
I don't you know what I mean. I don't know
if that makes sense.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
Yeah, yeah, it makes it makes total sense. I don't
think how they liked Brahmin at all. And I think
Brahmwen is so real. She's like, girl, whatever, do you
agree with you? Because even when you saw Bronwin and
Lisa have their one on one in this episode and
they had to address once again their issues, that to
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me was realistic in terms of we can agree to
forgive each other, but we really have to like work
towards building our friendship. Because Bromwyn was recommended by Lisa
to be on the show, and like Bromwin said, I
tell you a joke about I have to perform, you know,
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things to get closed as a joke, and years later
you run that back in my face to embarrass me.
Speaker 4 (26:07):
And who hasn't done that in a relationship? I'm sorry,
who hasn't done that?
Speaker 2 (26:14):
Okay?
Speaker 3 (26:18):
It's like, please please.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
Right that Whitley said, I do that, like I think
we all do it. I'm like, go ahead with me.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
So I agree with you that it takes a minute
to rebuild it.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
I was shocked that the moment this scene was over,
they're toasting to the weekend.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
But yeah, it.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
Also is confusing because we saw Angie tail Heather that
a woman walked into her salon, oh yeah, reading representing Lisa,
saying I'm here to collect the product.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
That Lisa has here, only for.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
Lisa to text Angie pretty much dissing her salon, calling
it dusty girl. I want my stuff back and all
of these things, and you're using someone's credit card to
go on vacations.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
I'm what happened to the kumbaya?
Speaker 4 (27:17):
Well, it was fake, just like Gens, I'm like, thank
you for val.
Speaker 3 (27:21):
Okay, so we're not crazy. That was bullshit and it
was fake just like we assumed, you know what I mean,
like there was nothing off that. It's not realistic.
Speaker 4 (27:31):
You can't throw shit like that at each other and
then kumbaya and expect it to really actually be kumbaya.
Speaker 3 (27:37):
There's no way. There's no way.
Speaker 4 (27:39):
So I mean, to me, that made sense. Go get
my shit from that bitches fucking salon for dusty, crusty,
musty salon, and I'm gonna venmo her this little coin.
And that's how I really feel good for you, because
that is that was probably how you really felt. You
didn't feel like I love you, Angie, and I just
a lot.
Speaker 3 (27:58):
Like, No, you wanted to get your shit and go.
You know that was real?
Speaker 2 (28:04):
Good for her, No, it was real.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
But look, I want to get your thoughts on this
because I want to know if b Monica Garcia would
have played this the same way.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
So after this incident happens at Angie salon Yeah, She
then meets.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
With Meredith Oh yes, and tells Meredith, look, I thought
me and Lisa were good.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
Apparently were not. This is what she did to me.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
So I'm going to tell you everything that she said
to me when you two were not in a good place.
She Angie told Meredith that Lisa told Angie to dig
up dirt on her. M you, you got your ass
handed to you kicked out of the Cool Girls Club
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for allegedly doing the same thing.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
Right. Meredith then says I don't believe it and.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
Apparently just okay, I'm gonna end it here because I'm
gonna range to follow where I'm going. Yes, two episodes ago,
rain Drops, if you all remember when Bronwyn read Lisa
and bro and Lisa said I'm gonna create a website
and list all of your shit and brown goes.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
Okay, Lisa, we know that's what you do.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
Only for two episodes later for Angie to tell Meredith
Lisa told me to dig up stuff on you.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
Do you believe it?
Speaker 3 (29:53):
Let me just tell you. Let me just tell you,
carl Us, because I want to scream right now. Let
me tell you.
Speaker 4 (30:00):
When I saw that happen, I didn't expect this the
validation I felt I could exhale. When I had everybody
send me that clip of Lisa saying I'm gonna.
Speaker 3 (30:14):
Create a page. Da da da da da, I'm gonna.
Speaker 4 (30:17):
Create it, and I'm gonna tell her, I was like, exactly,
And then when Angie said what she's I was like,
thank you, because in that motherfucking burn book that nobody
saw was the proof of Lisa and other people. Okay,
Heather asking us to post off, telling us where to postuff,
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you should post this, blah blah blah blah blah blah,
pretty much proving like they knew about the page, they
knew who do text.
Speaker 3 (30:45):
Okay, this wasn't even in DMS, this was in straight text.
Speaker 4 (30:48):
Okay, I know for a fact that Lisa does that shit.
So to sit there and hear Angie say that was
so val. Angie is not lying. She is not lying,
if Meredith wants to believe it or not. I love Meredith.
I love Meredith down, I love her family, I love
her kids. I hope that Meredith does believe Angie. I
could see why she's hesitant. But these women absolutely do
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that shit. I've been on the receiving end. I've been
Angie where they've been like, look into this and you
should post that, and you should say this so I
can bring up that, and da.
Speaker 3 (31:22):
Da da da da.
Speaker 4 (31:23):
So one hundred percent Angie is not lying. I will say.
I could see, and I want to know if you
caught this as a producer. When Angie started to bring
that up, you could see a moment in Angie where
she was like, am I really about to say this?
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You could see you could see like, Okay, I have
to bring this up. Do I really want to bring
this up? Am I really gonna go here? You could
see the moment where she was like, and she's like,
once I say this, it's out there, and she did.
She open the gates of hell because Lisa is not.
Lisa's gonna come for that ass. Okay, She's gonna come
for that ass, and I personally wouldn't have played it
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exactly that way.
Speaker 3 (32:10):
To answer your question, I would have done it in
front of Lisa.
Speaker 4 (32:14):
I would have done it with Lisa right there, and
I would have said, you want to tell your best
friend right here what the fuck you've been saying about
her and how I should do her dirty on your advice.
I would have done it like that. I would have
called her out right in the moment. Right you don't
get a chance to think about it. You don't get
a chance.
Speaker 3 (32:32):
To, you know, cover your tracks.
Speaker 4 (32:34):
We're gonna do it right here, right now, and let
the chips fall where they may.
Speaker 3 (32:39):
But Angie is one hundred percent telling the truth.
Speaker 4 (32:42):
And that's why the real gag is the fact that
these women act like I am so different than them,
Because as you can see, she's out here making threats
to be an online website. She's out here telling people
how Lisa's smart.
Speaker 3 (32:59):
I'll give her that, because she she.
Speaker 4 (33:01):
Goes like this, well, I didn't do it, you know,
But here's all the info I gave you to do
it yourself.
Speaker 3 (33:08):
But I didn't do it, you know. So I'm proud
of andree for doing that. But I could tell she.
Speaker 4 (33:13):
Was like, holy fuck, I'm really about to say this.
Do I want to do this good for her? Though
she's she's not lying, she's not lying. And that's the
real gag about all of this reality Vontee shit, you know?
Speaker 2 (33:26):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (33:26):
I mean so, the thing is this, I've always said
this to the rain Drops that when it comes to
these shows, they're not all the sup Yeah, they're they're
for some of the casts, some some some rain Drops,
not all some some some. Yeah, some of them are
friends because I'm an up and alliance, not because a
(33:47):
be true friendship. I will go out on a limb
and say this. I strongly believe Lisa and Meredith know
so much shit about each other, and we saw a
glimpse of that on the Hot Mic seasons ago where
Lisa was venting to a producer about Meredith. I'm not
(34:08):
going to repeat the thing she said because it's inappropriate,
but rain Drops, y'all do your own research if you
don't remember. Yep. I think Lisa and Meredith, in my opinion,
have agreed to not throw dirt on each other because
they know too much.
Speaker 2 (34:27):
And I think.
Speaker 1 (34:30):
Meredith knows it's true, but she cannot go against their path.
Speaker 4 (34:37):
And I have always said the same exact thing about
Jen and Heather were about to see when she get
out of prison and they bring Jen's ass back.
Speaker 1 (34:54):
By the way rain drops countdown, Jen Shaw is getting
out of prison in three hundred and twenty days, and
I hope.
Speaker 4 (35:01):
She comes and I hope she cleans the motherfucking floor
with them, because the way I don't even believe Heather,
I don't think that Jen gave her that black guy.
But whatever, I hope that Jen comes out and I hope.
But I have always said the same exact thing I
think that Jen and Heather. Actually I know, I know
that Jen and Heather have a lot of shit on
each other. And the same way that you're reading Lisa
(35:22):
and Meredith is how.
Speaker 3 (35:23):
I feel about Heather and Jen. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
Have you spoken to Jen Shaw since she's been in prison?
Speaker 3 (35:32):
No? No, no, no, she.
Speaker 2 (35:36):
Has me style her team nobody.
Speaker 3 (35:38):
No.
Speaker 2 (35:39):
No.
Speaker 4 (35:40):
If we ever ever had words again when she came out,
it would be the first time I have not spoken
to her in years.
Speaker 3 (35:49):
So yeah, you.
Speaker 2 (35:52):
Know, the rank doesn't want to know.
Speaker 1 (35:53):
I have to ask yes one of the things in
this episode, and I was like, I'm so thrilled that
I get to talk to Monica to recap this episode,
because not only was it the girls getting into it
with the cat fights and all that, this episode, Monica
has some personal story that I was like, Ooh, I
(36:15):
wonder if some of these things hit home to Monica.
The first thing I want to get into is Mary
talking to her cousin Big Joe about, you know, she's
opening up a church and he's helping her with it,
and she sort of starts intimating about things that happen
(36:39):
in her personal life with her mother. Yes, she talked
about how when her grandmother passed away, she was very
careful with her words right when she said, my grandmother
had wishes that she wanted fulfilled. Right now, we all
know that, you know, supposedly because I'm not sure if
Mary confirmed it, So I'll just say supposedly allegedly for
(37:03):
those reasons.
Speaker 2 (37:03):
But word on the street is the fact that allegedly
one of the.
Speaker 1 (37:10):
Grandmother's wishes was for Mary to marry her husband, which
is Mary's step grandfather, not her blood grandfather. So she
was I thought that was very interesting the way she
said that.
Speaker 2 (37:27):
But what she did talk about was the fact that
where her grandmother did lead.
Speaker 1 (37:33):
She also the mother also wanted to take over the
church and how that did not happen to the point
where she got it from the church pretty much says
she's leaving.
Speaker 2 (37:45):
They said police was called astarted someone.
Speaker 1 (37:49):
Now, it was a very carefully worded scene. And the
last thing was how the mother. I'm gonna say, allegedly
she's in heaven. The mother allegedly put articles about Mary
saying that she was a victim in her marriage and
was manipulated to be in this marriage.
Speaker 2 (38:09):
What did you think about all of that? And I
was so.
Speaker 1 (38:14):
I feel so emotional watching that because we're married to
how to deal with that to fell super bad for her?
Speaker 4 (38:20):
Yeah no, And I'm so glad you brought this up
because I do want to talk about this. First of all,
Mary is I don't care what anybody says about Mary.
That woman is the only one that gave a damn
about my mental health when everything went down.
Speaker 3 (38:36):
She is the only one.
Speaker 4 (38:37):
That cared if I was alive for real, because of
everything I was going through, the way I was being treated,
the other stuff that was going on behind the scenes.
So shout out forever to Mary for being an actual
human being and caring about my well being as a person.
Aside from all the bullshit, I will say I was
(38:58):
specifically triggered while that in relation to the fact that
her mom was publicly speaking against her and saying horrible
things about her, because I experienced that with my mother,
with her rants on me on Twitter about me and
my children and whatever. And it is a different kind
of betrayal when that comes from not just even a
(39:21):
family member, but from your mother, from your mother. So
for me, I one hundred percent related to her in
that moment, and you know, it really made me reflect.
I have not had any relationship with my mom since
finale aired. There is zero relationship. We haven't spoken. I
(39:44):
want nothing to do with that. And part of that too,
is because of her behavior online after the fact, And
so I related to her saying, you know, there's a
sense of it's closed, like that chapter has closed for
now and that being done, and that was that was
(40:05):
very intense. I will say props to Mary. I mean,
she is showing her personal life like nobody else on
that casts right now, and she continues to do so,
and it's not easy, and I'm so proud of her
for doing that.
Speaker 1 (40:20):
It's hard oh, I listen. Let's let's let's get one
thing clear. Mary has single handedly given not only Salt
Lake City, but the franchise as a whole, some of
the most personal stories in a real sense that I
have seen in years, from talking about her son, Robert Jr.
And dealing with his addiction issues, and my prayers go
(40:43):
out to Robert Jr. Still today and to marry the family.
When she opened up opened up in this episode about
her grandmother, her mom, And the reason why I said
she was very careful with her worst is because I
still think for her she does not want to disrespect
her mother, and and although her mother has since passed away, you.
Speaker 2 (41:04):
Could tell that she still wants to find.
Speaker 1 (41:07):
A way to tell her truth but also find a
way and in a sense to honor her, if that
makes any sense. But yeah, but khudo, Mary, I'm telling you,
Mary is the gift that keeps on giving. She is
needed for the show. Even her commentaries on the sidelines
are hilarius. But it's her personal story that I think
(41:28):
is what's keeping solidity.
Speaker 3 (41:31):
She carrying one hundred percent.
Speaker 4 (41:33):
Like for other people that are bringing no personal story,
She's got it all covered for them and there and
they should be so grateful for her for bringing that
element to the show because otherwise it's non existence aside
from Bronwyn, right, and what bron Win's showing with her mother.
So yeah, yeah, no, and no.
Speaker 2 (41:52):
Not the perfect segue into it.
Speaker 1 (41:54):
Listen, I'm a Bronwin Stan and that scene with her
mother in this episode, because last week's episode it was
a doozy when they talked about her father, her mother's
husband as well having Alzheimer's and some of the digs
that were happening even in that scene, like well this
(42:15):
will be you and a few years with your husband Todd,
and I'm like mom was going on. So ye. In
this episode, Brohman had a daughter, Gwynn, who has a
boyfriend that sometime lives there. And what was interesting is
Brahman mentioned how Gwynn was the same age as her
(42:35):
when she got pregnant, and that opened up Pandora's box
for us to learn Monica that brohm AND's mother obviously
was not happy that her daughter was a teen mom,
to the point that when Brahman and her sister were
pregnant at the same time and they were getting ready
for a baby, Shopper how Brahmin's mom refused to buy
(43:01):
a gift for her stand it for her sister.
Speaker 3 (43:06):
The baby gap story was brew Yeah.
Speaker 1 (43:09):
Again, I thought of you just based on the issues
that we've seen in the show you have with your mom.
Speaker 2 (43:17):
Talk to us about that scene between.
Speaker 1 (43:20):
Brahmin and her mother, because holy smoke, I was it
was it was drawing to hear barb Brahm is bringing
it to a personal story.
Speaker 3 (43:30):
Yes, one hundred percent.
Speaker 4 (43:33):
You know, I would love to talk to Bronwyn, to
be honest, I did not, I think because I was
also pregnant as a teen, and I think that it
would be really with a mother that is very difficult, right,
I think it would be really cathartic on some level
to be able to speak to someone in regards to that.
What really gutted me and kind of my jaw hit
(43:56):
the floor, to be honest, which is hard to do.
Speaker 3 (43:59):
But when the mother she was saying, you know, Bronwin.
Speaker 4 (44:03):
Was saying, I wasn't able to have this, and I
wasn't able to have a baby shower, and I couldn't
be celebrated, And the mother's response.
Speaker 3 (44:09):
Was, how do you think I felt having to hide it?
Jaw Carlos.
Speaker 4 (44:19):
That was equivalent to me when I said to my mom,
you put me in the trunk and she said, that
happened one time, bitch, I was in that truck. Like what,
It's the same thing, Like, well, how do you think
I feel having to hide it? It's like what your
daughter was the one going through what she was going through,
(44:40):
and you're gonna sit here and say, well, it happened
one time, Well, how do you think I felt?
Speaker 1 (44:44):
Like? What the.
Speaker 4 (44:47):
I honestly, it was it. It definitely felt like. Look,
I'm hoping that Bronwyin kind of has some realizations like
I did. When you're in it and this is your norm,
you don't see and process things the same as when
you are sitting back watching it on the screen. So
(45:07):
I'm wondering how Bronwyn felt watching that back. It's an
out of body experience. For me, it was very eye
opening and led to me ultimately deciding I had to
cut that relationship off for my own health. So it's
it's it was very Yeah, it felt like I was
(45:28):
watching me and my mom again, to be honest, and
I'm glad you know that Bronwyn is sharing that that
was brutal I couldn't believe it, and just the smirks
and stuff that the mom was making, I just it
was very icky.
Speaker 3 (45:48):
It was very icky.
Speaker 2 (45:50):
Yeah yeah, yeah, Now it made me sad. And what
was so interesting?
Speaker 1 (45:56):
And I always wondered this when a parent can visibly
see across from them their child uncomfortable and crying, and.
Speaker 2 (46:08):
How it doesn't move them.
Speaker 1 (46:11):
I think that's a part for me, Like brahmant looks
uncomfortable and said, and she's tearing up and the mother
is stone cold, And I was like, I feel that,
and I.
Speaker 2 (46:23):
Promised you I thought of you. I thought of you.
Speaker 1 (46:25):
In that moment, I was like, God, I thank you
for allowing Monica and I to have this conversation because
I just wanted to hear your POV and listen, I
agree with you. In a perfect world, I would love
to see you and Brahman talk about this because I
do think on that show Brahman needs somebody who relate
(46:46):
to her, and I think you may be the only
one who could.
Speaker 3 (46:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (46:51):
It was.
Speaker 3 (46:53):
Like I said, I haven't watched this show since my season,
so seeing that, I was like, whoah, Like what are
the odds?
Speaker 4 (47:02):
Honestly, Carlos look I don't believe in coincidences. I feel
like everything happens for a reason. There was a reason
why I said no to everybody else and yes to you,
and there was a reason that that happened at this
point in time, right now and on this particular episode,
because that, Yeah, when you have a mom like that,
(47:24):
you do feel completely alone and like nobody understands. So
to watch that with Bronwyn, obviously I'm not I don't
wish that on anybody, but it was very much like wow,
Like to see a similar relationship continued on from me
and my mom felt in a way healing for me, like, Okay,
I'm not the only one that just displayed a relationship
(47:46):
like that with their mother, because as you saw, the
cast for me and my mom.
Speaker 3 (47:52):
Was very cruel.
Speaker 4 (47:53):
It was like I was a piece of crap. They
couldn't understand how someone could treat their mother like that.
Speaker 3 (47:58):
Dah da da da da.
Speaker 4 (47:59):
And like you said, I feel like Bronon really is
the only person on that cast I would understand why
I am the way I am towards my mother, you know.
So it was it was pretty intense, for sure.
Speaker 2 (48:12):
No, it was, it was.
Speaker 1 (48:13):
It was and look I will say this, it made
me miss you more on the show, and I believe
that you I don't believe become in sentences as well,
and I know that this happened for a reason, and
I can't thank you enough for saying yes to me.
I'm going to talk to you offline, but what I
will say to you is thank you for stepping into
(48:35):
Reality but the King, because as you know, I'm a
fan and I have been for the moment you grace
the screen, and I'm so happy that we got a chance.
Speaker 2 (48:45):
To finally and I hope this is one of many yes.
Yes be too Okay, all right, guys, given up for
Monica Garci.
Speaker 3 (48:57):
Thank you, Carlos.
Speaker 1 (49:02):
Reality with the King is executive produced by Me Carlos King,
produced by Lizzie Nimitz, and a partnership with the Lack
Effect Network. You can also find us on my YouTube
channel at the Carlos King Underscore
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