September 11, 2025 • 31 mins
Reigndrops, word on the street is that Atlanta might just be running out of people! Today’s hot topic: Robyn Dixon vs. K. Michelle. Is the Real Housewives franchise really the definition of a “classy show”? Carlos, Dustin, and Claudia dive in and share their unfiltered thoughts on whether Robyn’s comments crossed the line.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Reality with the King is hosted by me, Carlos King.
I'm an executive producer who have produced some of your
favorite shows from the Real Housewives in Atlanta, New Jersey
and my own creation, The Love and Marriage Franchise and
Bell Collective. Every episode we recap reality television from the
Real Housewives Franchise to The Bachelor or Selling Sunset, in
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addition to celebrity guests, whether in the unscripted space or
scripted as well. Apparently, when it comes to Giselle Briant
and Robert Dixon's podcast Reasonably Shady that's on the Black
Effect Network, they decided to have a conversation on the rumor.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
That ky Michelle is a new Atlanta Housewife.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
So Claudia and Dustin on the podcast, Robert Dixon as
you honor for Potomac as well as Jazelle Bryant, had
a conversation and what was said was, I think Atlanta
has run out of people, Robin said, referring to reports
that Ky Michelle and Angel Love Angel Loves from Basketball
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Wise might be joining the Bravo franchises, which is the
Real Housewives of Atlanta for Kamushell allegedly, and then it
is Angel Love allegedly joining married to Madison. Robin continued
Desna Claudia, I really thought that the network or the
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show tried to avoid crossovers from different networks. But I'm
like Atlanta is running all of people because you are
using people from other networks. Now, before I get into
ky Michelle's clap back, I want to read what Giselle
said and I want to talk about this amongst us
first before we kiem Michelle's clapback, Vin said, I'm not
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mad at it. At first, I was like, what, ky Michelle,
that's weird. But out of the love and hip hop world,
there are very few people that I feel like have
left that behind them and have gone on to do
so many other things that it really wasn't a factor,
So her being a housewife, I'm not mad at it.
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I know this is something Claudia, Dustin we already talked about.
Before I get to the Chemistrald's clip back. Why do
y'all think this is such a hot topic, especially amongst
Bravo celebrities.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
I want to start with Dustin.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
I think we can kind of narrow the lens here
and take it from the kind of broad stroke of
amongst Bravo celebrities to well, you know what, let's keep
it there and then we'll get to Robin specifically next.
I think that most Bravo celebrities, and this is where
Claudia is a unicorn amongst the rest of these Bravo
celebrities right there, claim to fame is being featured and
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documented on Bravo. You know, as part of a Bravo series.
Claudia was already a Claudia Jordan. Claudia had been Jordan
before she even got on the Housewives, and so it
was a little bit different. Same with Candy Barrys and others,
Drew Sidora, many others that have come into the folk war,
you know what I'm saying, same with them. And so
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I think that sometimes the Bravo celebrities have kind of
enjoyed the gatekeeping of sorts when it came to opportunities
within the network that was there because it kept them
and maintained their status as notable because they were chosen
and selected by Bravo. So once they opened them doors
up to other people, it kind of makes you have
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to have a little bit something else going on in
order to be considered. And I think that's a threat
to people who have thrived within that zeitgeist. So, and
I think Robin Dixon especially as one of them. My
thing is, if Atlanta running out of people, then maybe
your ass need to be looking at houses.
Speaker 4 (04:00):
If you know what I'm saying, you need to move
to Atlanta.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
If Atlanta is now becoming second chance city, maybe you
need to be looking at jobs. It's a lot of coaches,
she said, why I want to coach collegiate basketball? You know,
it's several schools there where he can have opportunities. It's
a lot of laundromats, you know what I'm saying. It's
a lot of shit in Atlanta. That's my thing, you know.
And also the fact that Robin said that that, the
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fact that Robin started all this shit is exactly why
maybe there is still a place for her on the
Housewives cast, right because she stirred all of this up.
Maybe if she had done more of that blatantly instead
of trying to do it second handedly in a sneaky
way when she was on the cast, maybe she would
still be there. So that's my thing. God damn it.
If they running out of people, then maybe this is
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your chance. Maybe you need to get your ass down
to Atlanta and get in front of a camera.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
Laubia Jordan.
Speaker 5 (04:57):
I slightly disagree.
Speaker 6 (04:58):
I will say this because we do commentary, which she
said was nothing different than the kind of stuff that
we might say. They've running out of people, and I
think she may have a point, but I think people
are just running with it. It's K Michelle's He's very like,
not polarizing, but you know, we gonna turn up with
K Michelle. And when I watched the whole clip, she
wasn't trashing Ca Michelle at all.
Speaker 5 (05:19):
She actually was giving her a lot of.
Speaker 6 (05:20):
Props and saying At first I was like nah, but
then the more I thought about it, she's the one
that could go and then stirred up and she actually
gave her a prop. And that's sometimes what I hate
about these click baity titles. It makes it look like
she was really coming for her and had a lot.
Speaker 5 (05:33):
Of shit to say.
Speaker 6 (05:34):
And then Maybek Michelle doesn't watch the whole clip, and
she just sees the one part and doesn't see whether
they were basically giving her her props.
Speaker 5 (05:40):
And saying, if someone can do it, it is K Michelle.
Speaker 6 (05:43):
And I kind of like, don't like that because we
could exactly easy happen to us. They take one part
of our conversation and don't hear it in its full conversation,
in full context, and it seems like you're hating. And
I don't think she was. I don't think she was.
Speaker 5 (05:56):
And I do think yeah, like.
Speaker 6 (05:58):
Now the shows are definitely pollinating, cross promoting. Someone might
be asked to be on a Love and Hip Hop
or or Atlanta Housewives or Potomac or whatever.
Speaker 5 (06:07):
I mean, fuck it, I'm gonna hate again.
Speaker 6 (06:10):
Don't nobody saying nothing when TI be going from every
single reality show, dating every every girl from every reality show.
Like it's just kind of like the sign of the times.
Like people are just like their cross media is changing.
You're not just exclusive to one brand now like they're
they're saying that there's you can have success with bringing
someone that has a fan base from another franchise coming
over here and stirn up. I don't see anything wrong
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with it. I also don't think that Robin. I don't
think that Joe. I don't think they came from bad
place at all.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
I don't personally, Okay, I do rain drops. We are
going to get to the Rasheeta and Yandy scene of
it all. Later in this episode We're Live, we're first
talking about kay Michelle clapping back up Robin Dixon from
the Potomac Housewives. I want to I want to ask
you all this question again before I read Chemishell's response.
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I'm getting the sense that ky Michelle being on the.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
Real Housewives of Atlanta allegedly.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
Has a lot to do with classism, It has a
lot to do with elitism, and a low key has to.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
Do with that girl over there right.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
I want to have a real conversation about this because
I think ky Michelle being announced as possibly joining the
Real Hospice Atlanta coming from love and hip hop, I'm
starting to get a sense that it is becoming that
ky Michelle isn't that classy enough.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
These are things I saw.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
She's not classy enough to be on the Real Hospital Atlanta.
And my thing is this, if this is somebody who
started day one, season one of the Real Hospitals Atlanta,
I was there with Ninny Lee, Cherie Whitfield, Kim Zosiak, Deshons,
Lisa Wu. When we started that show, there wasn't this
concentration on those ladies being classy. Know where it came
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from that people thought The Real Housewatchs of Atlanta was
a classy show. It was never and that's me being
a fun producer. It was never a classy show. Granted, yes,
they may have highlighted more of the the wealthy people
who were on the show at the time. We saw
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Deshaun Snow's ten thousand square foot home, but the other ladies,
to the audience and toil, all of us lived moderately well.
Nobody was in the mansions like on Beverly Hills. I
think Beverly Hills has the sort of halo over them
as being this sort of like classier show. Although once
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again Lisa Renna threw a drink at somebody, Brandy Glanville
slapped Lisa Vanda pump face. Okay, Brandy Laville also slapped
Eileen Davison, a soap actress. When it comes to black
people on the Real Housewives franchise.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
You guys who are saying caym.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
Mischelle does not belong whether you're on TV or not,
what you are saying is that as a black person,
you don't think Cay Michelle as a black woman, deserves
to grow into being somebody that can go to another
show doesn't make a very good point about Claudia Jordan.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Claudia Jordan has been famous that she was a teenager.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
Right when I met her, I didn't and this is
no shame to my girl, Claudia.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
I didn't think to myself, I wonder how classy she is.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
I want I wonder what the square footage of her
home is.
Speaker 5 (09:38):
I was in the apartment.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
Yeah, when I cast Claudia Jordan pitched her, it had
nothing to do. I didn't ask how much money she had.
I didn't asked her to send me photos of her home.
It was about the fact that I saw this strikingly
beautiful woman who had a a a friendly situation with
Kenyon More as somebody who could fit the standard of
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the real hospals Blanta, which was a beautiful, accomplished woman
who know how to be amongst women and stand up
for herself. That's what the fuck the show is about.
You guys, to me care so much. I'm annoyed because listen,
it's a lot happening, But I'm annoyed about this classism.
The real Hospors Blanta is not a classy show. Potomac
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is not a classy show. Jersey is not a classy show,
so Lake City. None of them are classy shows. All
of them has had physical altercations. Just because Love and
hip Hop is known for it does not mean that
anybody that comes from loving hip.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
Hop should be stuck in a box.
Speaker 6 (10:46):
I think that was something that like and being have
worked with both of those shows. As yourself, Carlos, I
think it's always been a thing like, well, we're not
It's kind of like the well, we're not like them,
we're here, you know, we don't fight like them, And
for a while they could say that for a little while,
but then it had definitely changed where there is definitely
more of that behavior on Bond that show as well.
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So yeah, it was like kind of like a it
was a classism thing, you know, like you think the housewives.
Speaker 5 (11:14):
Were perceived to be classy.
Speaker 6 (11:16):
They were supposed to be classier, whether or not they
always were.
Speaker 5 (11:20):
I mean, there's an argument to be made.
Speaker 6 (11:22):
And you got to say, and Love and hip Hop,
there are definitely way more fights.
Speaker 5 (11:26):
But let's be clear this there's been fights on both.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
They've been fights on both.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
I will say this Love and Hip Hop shows more
other fights oh.
Speaker 6 (11:36):
Yeah, because I do remember a certain someone get in
the fight in a hall in an alley and they
never showed it, and I was like, see, y'all keep
being okay with violent behavior but then acting like this
is classy shit and it wasn't.
Speaker 5 (11:49):
But yeah, I think it's a class thing.
Speaker 6 (11:50):
Like well, I remember when there's reports out that I'm
maybe joining Love and Hip Hop Miami, which I've done
a couple of scenes with Rada because she's on there,
Michael Blackson, and it was like, oh what a she
went from Atlanta Housewives to Love and hip Hop And
it was definitely like this class stuffy and thrown to
me like I must be desperate somehow or things must
not be going well, honey.
Speaker 5 (12:12):
I The only class I care about is what class
my check is in.
Speaker 6 (12:15):
I like to work and make money as long as
I'm not out here fighting, playing myself and embarrass myself.
Speaker 5 (12:20):
You will see Claudie jordanha setting in the credits.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
Okay, Also, what the fuck is it to you?
Speaker 4 (12:27):
What right?
Speaker 3 (12:29):
You're a viewer enjoyed the show, just like we enjoy
the shows that we watch. People got to stop acting
like just because and this back to your earlier statement
Carlos about this opinion of a lot of people that
there is a class distinction in the casting efforts of
the Real Housewives of Atlanta and other cities versus Love
and Hip Hop, which there is a different talent pool, right,
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and a different pool criteria that applies to these shows,
which is exactly why Ky Michelle is a rare case
that has been able to navigate right across into this
into the Bravo universe.
Speaker 4 (13:06):
Now, right, she can do it.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
Tammy Rivera could have done it, Toya right, Toyo Johnson
could to.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
Toya Rushing, who, by the way, auditioned to be a
Michelle and I was there doing her casting tape.
Speaker 4 (13:19):
Well, Russian, she could do it.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
There's a lot of women who have full lives that
that that could fill up the space that a real
housewife requires. I think because of someone came to Shechelle's
more sensational behaviors in the past, people are surprised that
the choice was her, But that's what it is. And
just because a lot of people think something with the end,
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I don't care what nobody says. The introduction of the
comment section started all as shit because once people started
adding value to opinion.
Speaker 4 (13:50):
We ended up in this space where now creative.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
Minds are second guessing their their instincts, you know what
I'm saying, because of public opinion and because of the
fucking comments, or because of what an audience has to say.
And while it does matter if an audience receives a
project and watches a show or listens to a music project,
their opinion is something that they're entitled to but doesn't
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have any value towards the project.
Speaker 4 (14:17):
And that's where people get it fucked up.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
So they come up with these ideas that there is
a classist element to the casting of Real Housewives shows,
and now they feel as if they have authority to
determine who's good enough and who's not, so much so
that they will in it.
Speaker 4 (14:31):
They will. Kymi Schelle's not my favorite.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
Person, right, but I don't think she deserves to be
slapped in the face every day with a comment that
she's not good enough for this damn show.
Speaker 4 (14:41):
Quiet as it's kept.
Speaker 3 (14:42):
That's why Robin ended up getting what she got because
Key Mischelle was probably sick and tired of seeing people
say that she was not good enough to be a
part of the Bravo universe, and I think that's a problem.
If a lot of people think something, then people just
decide that that is not.
Speaker 4 (14:58):
A rule or a law.
Speaker 3 (14:59):
Similar to the conversation regarding seating arrangements at the Real
Housewives reunions, people have decided that there is a value
to what seat you sitting next to and all that
other shit, and countless times producers people involved have said
that there is not.
Speaker 4 (15:13):
People just decide that it is. And so now where
you're sitting is a big deal.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
Y'all got to back up off of that sometimes and
just enjoy the entertainment and let that.
Speaker 4 (15:21):
Be that.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
This is reality with the King and I'm Carlos King.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
Let's get back into the show.
Speaker 5 (15:31):
With weeby being faked, though not fake or disingenuous.
Speaker 6 (15:33):
If we don't say that there is there is a
class thing going on, especially with when it comes to
zoos love and hip hop, and they were supposed to
because like the other day, even with us, I gotta
keep it buck when wet about Jocelyn being on Real
Housewives up.
Speaker 4 (15:47):
I mean, we all was like, well, my reaction wasn't
rooted in classes.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
My reaction wasn't rooted in classes, and That's exactly where
I just articulated it the way I did when I
said there's a difference in the talent pool and then
the criteria for the talent pool, it's simply a different.
Speaker 4 (16:04):
Net being cast. It doesn't mean that.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
One if someone feels that there's a class distinction, that's
a personal slant, you know what I'm saying. It's simply
a different call sheet that goes out. They're going to
ask for different types of people, and they're trying to
profile a different worldview or a different perspective. You're gonna
ask for different people, and certain shows are crafted to
show a different perspective.
Speaker 4 (16:28):
That's just what it is to me.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
If you think the people on Zeus or Now That's
TV or Love and Hip Hop are better or worse
than the people on Bravo, you got some internal work
to do because it's just a different talent pool.
Speaker 4 (16:40):
That's it.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
I drew the talent pool because even when I said that, look,
I would love to see Joscelyn Hernandez on Miami. The
reason why I said that, and I wasn't saying that
to be like just a start a thought provoking conversation.
Joscelyn is from Miami, Florida. Joslyn speaks fluently in Spanish.
I am a huge fan of Miami Housewives. I do
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feel like, this is my opinion as a viewer of
that show.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
I do feel like it's missing something right.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
And look, I think because Jocelyn is a Puerto Rican
woman from a different from a different world than those women,
I just feel like it could be interesting.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
And that's the reason why.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
Look, the world is evolving, and I know the three
of us haven't told once in our lives that we
did not belong in certain rooms.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
Right, I'll speak for myself. I know I have and
I may.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
Be Carlos King, but I still get that today today,
people still see me as we love you, but we
don't love you as much as to bring you into
this room. And that is some real shit. So listen,
me just being completely transparent. Maybe I am taking it
personally when I see someone like kay Michelle being a
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topic of conversation because she was on a VH one
show I work with her.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
Cam Michelle has never key. Michelle has never physically put
her hands on anybody. She threw a candle at Rosheita,
But my goodness, gracious Marge Joseph spilled the whole drink
on Danielle's style, like, y'all gotta stop looking at black
women on certain shows as if they don't belong.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
And that's why when it comes to Zeus, look, I
may not watch Zeus. And this has nothing to do
with classism. It has to do it at my big age.
I like, I like a story, like I like a
BAGHINTI of middle and an end. When I was in
my twenties, I watched Raggles Club every freaking Monday if
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think it came on. And that's why I love Natalie None,
I love I know all this girls, Finisha Thomas. But
it doesn't mean I have to say, don't watch Zeus.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
Don't watch should not exist because you're not entertainment. That's
the difference here, right. People decide that their opinion or
their feeling about something can now determine a rule or
the existence of something. And I think that's the distinction
where people kind of have to police their damn self, right, Like,
just because you have a feeling about something like Carlos,
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you can want Jocelyn to be you can think that
Johnson would be a great choice for the Real Housewives
in Miami, And there's nothing wrong with you feeling like that.
I can agree or I can disagree. There's nothing wrong
with that. It doesn't mean we're bad people. You understand
what I'm saying. And it's okay for things to be subjective,
like all of that is okay. And so if a
person feels like there is a classist, classist element to
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this internally for them, then you need to do that
internal work your damn self, because I can literally say
I'm not speaking from that place. Yeah, and I know
you're not.
Speaker 4 (19:52):
Yeah. No, that's my story, you know what I tell
you all the time.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
If our grandmamas and our mamas because sit up and
watch Guiding Light and Passions and One Life to goddamn
Live and the bold and and Beautiful and all my cheering,
if they can watch all of that, then we can
watch our stories, which just might be Baddie's Africa, which
just might be Baddie's Gone Well, or Joscelyn's Cabaret, okay,
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or maybe South Central Baddies on Now That's TV. You know,
maybe it's one of those shows my PA's my comfort television,
call it what you want.
Speaker 5 (20:26):
That's it.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
That's it, And I think that's fair. Claudia's having to
Wi Fi issues. Don't worry y'all.
Speaker 4 (20:31):
We did not tick out.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
Yeah, she is not going to find her luggage.
Speaker 4 (20:37):
No, she ain't.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
No feara culture fans know that, So Dustin, I want
to read to you what ky Michelle said. In response
to Robin Dixon and Giselle Brian's conversation.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
Michelle wrote in the.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
Comments, why be so worried about me and my overly
educated and successful self and what I might be doing? Robin,
you ran out of a job a long time ago.
You would love to be recycled, you little cosh potato.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
Just yapping.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
You should have ran through the hotel lobby where your
husband was. Lady Giselle, you look beautiful. Leave me alone
and let me go. Yellllo in peace. Kim Michelle did
not stop there. She continued dusting with I'm around here
selling our shows and you're selling baseball hats, But you
worried about.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
Me and what I might be doing the nerve of
this cosh potato listen not but nothing.
Speaker 3 (21:42):
Chemille's funny by jil, which is why she's gonna add
value to their cast. One of the reasons why she
should add value to their real house whiles of Atlantic
cast when she holding their peach like we know she's
about to. Now here's the thing that was hilarious. Comedic
value always makes something better. She he went there with wine,
the wine shit, whatever, But that was hilarious. Couch potato
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was funny as hell, and I could see her saying
it was hilarious, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (22:09):
That's just it was what it was.
Speaker 3 (22:11):
And I think that even though I personally don't think
that Robin said anything offensive or disrespectful, I think the
grouping of Cay Michelle's casting with the notion that Atlanta
must be running out of people, as if the other
choices would have been more reasonable than her, I think
that that's the negative slant that kind of registered with
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k Michelle and prompted her response. So although I don't
think that Robin like disrespected her blatantly in any way,
you know, and she just simply did just share a perspective,
it still was one that's not positive. You know what
I'm saying. It's like you're saying that, damn, since they
cast me, they must be running out of the people.
What the fuck is that supposed to me, and I
think that's how ca Michelle received it. You know what
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I'm saying. But couch Potato was funny as hell, and
that's that.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
Claudia, did you?
Speaker 1 (23:03):
I know you were gone, but that's okay, that's okay.
Do you want me to read you what cay Michelle said?
You remember it?
Speaker 5 (23:10):
Can you read again? Because the way my matter?
Speaker 2 (23:13):
No, no, I'll good.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
So Cay Michelle said, why be so worried about me
and my overly educated and successful self and what I
might be doing? Robin, you ran out of a job
a long time ago. You would love to be recycled,
you little cossed potato, just yapping. You should have ran
through that hotel lobby where your husband was. Lady Giselle,
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you look beautiful. Leave me alone and let me go, yodo.
She continued. I'm around here selling got shows and you're
selling baseball hats, but you.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
Worried about it? Does the stop?
Speaker 3 (23:51):
I think about Warwick every time she say baseball hats.
I think about Dion Warwick and them hats that should
be wearing it. Just every time she said, when I
see that, she said baseball hats, which is a very
black way to describe Robin's hats. Okay, I think about them.
Has Dion Warrid be wearing and it just takes me out.
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If Robin was smart, that's who she would have had
modeled them off. I'll bet you them hats would have
been out the window.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
That's actually smart.
Speaker 3 (24:20):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
So Claudia, she said, while you running rocket something baseball hats,
but you're worried about meeting what I might be doing.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
The nerve of this cost potato.
Speaker 6 (24:31):
I think the punishment didn't fit the crime. I feel
like I feel like the shape from Robin was a two.
I think the clydback from Camashall was a twenty two,
which you know that's what you're gonna get, right, so listen.
Speaker 5 (24:44):
Now it's on ten. Now it's up, I guess.
Speaker 6 (24:46):
But I mean, if we didn't do commentary like we
do commentary, we could find ourselves in this position easily
and there's everything we say deserve to get a level
twenty two clip back. No, I do think two things
be true at the same time. I do think Michelle.
I think Robin caught it because ky Mischelle had had
enough of being dragged by so many other people having
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their opinion about if she was good enough for Housewives,
accomplished enough to get whatever the hell, and I think
she's probably was at her wits end. It's more about
that now I can't agree with someone things that Robin
said about recycling people and using the same people over
and over again, because we we did be wanting like
that fresh.
Speaker 5 (25:23):
She doesn't have to be a celebrity like someone that
just brings that energy. But I do think Calvin cut.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
You off now that I yes, then I can get
I can get with sorry ahead.
Speaker 6 (25:33):
But I do think Cay Michelle doesn't deserve as much
as a smoke because I do think that she with
all that being said, she has shown growth, she has
moved on. I mean, I didn't like when she was
hitting people with flowers and throwing stuff at the Camelong
kind of stuff and long.
Speaker 5 (25:50):
You know, I don't want to see her doing that
and the.
Speaker 6 (25:51):
Housewives capacity, but like she let's not act like this
woman has not evolved.
Speaker 5 (25:56):
She's entered into a new area of music in the
country scene.
Speaker 6 (26:00):
She's probably been sick of getting attacked by them, white people,
mad that black people are taking over their spaces. She's
been getting dragged for probably a few years with this stuff.
Now she's gone on to get married. She was on
Queen's Court, which she did a really good job. She
showed growth on that show, so she's probably like, god, damn, yeah,
I was gett on hood back then, but I have
evolved since then, and I'm kind of sick and tired
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of people saying I'm not good enough. Still I understand
what she feel frustrated then, and I think Robin was
probably just like the straw that broke the camel's back.
I don't think what Robin really warranted all that. I
think Robin caught the heat from all the other people
talking shit about Ky Michelle and came show was like, well,
goddamn you about to get it for everybody else. That's
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kind of what I feel like, because I don't think
Robin Robin will do it a little shit. But if you,
damn if you do, you damn if you don't. When
you do a podcast, you don't you give him something.
You a hater, You don't give him something. You're boring,
And I think that's what I think, that's where they
do it.
Speaker 3 (26:53):
To They just did it to me on our show
this week Monday, when I was talking about the housewives
in New Jersey because you know, even though I don't
be in the I don't mean all my cousins and
shit back home. And it was a lady named Michelle
Baron that called me a bitch for no reason.
Speaker 4 (27:06):
She was like, dusting is a bit. Some lady named
Michelle Baron.
Speaker 3 (27:09):
She had them Charlotte Airport, white rocking chair teeth in
her mouth, big ass front.
Speaker 4 (27:14):
Teeth leaning back like that.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
Everybody know that's the best part about the Charlotte Airport,
them right rocking chairs. Okay, that's what her teacher looked like.
And you know, my cousins ran it right down to me.
Call me a bitch for no reason. You know what
I'm saying that all I said was what happened with
Teresa and never took a side, never did none of that.
But you didn't, right, So people like that Michelle Barron
lady are just gonna be negative, you know what I'm saying,
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just for the sake of and it just it's a
part of it.
Speaker 4 (27:40):
So unfortunately Robin just got called Michelle.
Speaker 6 (27:43):
You know, I did be seeing a girl a negative
A lot of common say, Michelle, maybe it's the same
one but she's probably not getting any dick or pussy,
and she's probably angry.
Speaker 4 (27:51):
I don't care about.
Speaker 5 (27:52):
I got a back and low titties, hanging love strep
walks on the stomach.
Speaker 6 (27:56):
You know she's probably Yeah, you'll be looking fine and
in shape, got a big ass, dead got money, got
a rooftop.
Speaker 5 (28:03):
You've got views of the city.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (28:07):
I get it.
Speaker 3 (28:07):
It's all good. You know what I'm saying. She definitely
looked like Uncle Phil a little bit.
Speaker 4 (28:13):
You know what I'm saying. It was all good. You
know what I'm saying. It's all good.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
Okay, it's all good.
Speaker 4 (28:20):
We love the rain drops. She ain't no rain drop.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
I didn't see that comment.
Speaker 4 (28:27):
I didn't neither my cousin. They look. They send me
a screenshot. I ain't.
Speaker 3 (28:33):
They went to her youthube account, screenshot of her picture
and send it to me.
Speaker 4 (28:38):
You know what I'm saying. So I want I want
to I want to.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
You look like an owl, Michelle Baron. I just want
you to know that you literally look like an owl
in the face with jowls.
Speaker 5 (28:54):
That's okay.
Speaker 4 (28:54):
So poor caught her up a little bit.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
Is Claudia Prosen again.
Speaker 4 (29:03):
So okay, yeah she is Okay.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
I will say this. I will say this.
Speaker 4 (29:07):
I will say this.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
I grew with all of you guys. In terms of Robin, Listen,
I've been around Robin. Robin's job as a pod Holt
podcast post is to talk about the topic. Yes, you
just said, Dustin, you you gave Teresa so much praise.
You made a comment that people didn't like, and all
of a sudden it erased everything positive you said. Which,
(29:33):
by the way, Teresa liked the post that I posted
of you. Uh, talk about that, So I wanted you
to know that. And by the way, Teresa wanted me
to tell you.
Speaker 3 (29:43):
Hi, Dustin, Hi Teresa, what's up Teresa? I hope your
season love.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
Yes, so Teresa wanted me to tell you, She says.
Speaker 3 (29:51):
Hello, thank you, And I like your Applientis I love
with smig? Do you have a mixer in your kitchen? Carlos,
you got a kitchen aid?
Speaker 5 (30:04):
No? Should I?
Speaker 3 (30:06):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (30:06):
My mama has had a kitchen aid for my grandmother
all that man thirty years. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (30:16):
Is it Simon?
Speaker 1 (30:20):
I think Simon has other things of her about besides
your wi final It must be somebody else.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
Well, I wasn't gonna say today, but I'm not gonna
do that because that that will blow the end of day.
I'll text you, but what I will say. What I
will say is this.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
Robin's job is to be a podcast host and to
stay her opinion.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
All three of us get dragged.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
I have seen people tag some of my friends in
reality TV saying Carlos is laughing at people talking.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
About you like y'all.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
Y'all, y'all try to get people to like comfort us
and that's not okay. Y'all either want entertaining show or you.
But the fact that some of y'all run till.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
That is wow. But I digress anyways.
Speaker 5 (31:06):
Don't it's mortal? It's mortal? Is that? I mean?
Speaker 2 (31:16):
I dispelled the name. Don't say a live.
Speaker 5 (31:23):
Mortal or time.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
I would vote for Todd.
Speaker 1 (31:31):
Reality with the King is executive produced by me Carlos King,
produced by Lizzie Nimitz, and a partnership.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
With the Lack of Effect Network.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
You can also find us on my YouTube channel at
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Reality with the King is hosted by me, Carlos King.
I'm an executive producer who have produced some of your
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and my own creation, The Love and Marriage Franchise and
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addition to celebrity guests, whether in the unscripted space or
scripted as well. Apparently, when it comes to Giselle Briant
and Robert Dixon's podcast Reasonably Shady that's on the Black
Effect Network, they decided to have a conversation on the rumor.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
That ky Michelle is a new Atlanta Housewife.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
So Claudia and Dustin on the podcast, Robert Dixon as
you honor for Potomac as well as Jazelle Bryant, had
a conversation and what was said was, I think Atlanta
has run out of people, Robin said, referring to reports
that Ky Michelle and Angel Love Angel Loves from Basketball
(01:18):
Wise might be joining the Bravo franchises, which is the
Real Housewives of Atlanta for Kamushell allegedly, and then it
is Angel Love allegedly joining married to Madison. Robin continued
Desna Claudia, I really thought that the network or the
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show tried to avoid crossovers from different networks. But I'm
like Atlanta is running all of people because you are
using people from other networks. Now, before I get into
ky Michelle's clap back, I want to read what Giselle
said and I want to talk about this amongst us
first before we kiem Michelle's clapback, Vin said, I'm not
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mad at it. At first, I was like, what, ky Michelle,
that's weird. But out of the love and hip hop world,
there are very few people that I feel like have
left that behind them and have gone on to do
so many other things that it really wasn't a factor,
So her being a housewife, I'm not mad at it.
(02:24):
I know this is something Claudia, Dustin we already talked about.
Before I get to the Chemistrald's clip back. Why do
y'all think this is such a hot topic, especially amongst
Bravo celebrities.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
I want to start with Dustin.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
I think we can kind of narrow the lens here
and take it from the kind of broad stroke of
amongst Bravo celebrities to well, you know what, let's keep
it there and then we'll get to Robin specifically next.
I think that most Bravo celebrities, and this is where
Claudia is a unicorn amongst the rest of these Bravo
celebrities right there, claim to fame is being featured and
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documented on Bravo. You know, as part of a Bravo series.
Claudia was already a Claudia Jordan. Claudia had been Jordan
before she even got on the Housewives, and so it
was a little bit different. Same with Candy Barrys and others,
Drew Sidora, many others that have come into the folk war,
you know what I'm saying, same with them. And so
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I think that sometimes the Bravo celebrities have kind of
enjoyed the gatekeeping of sorts when it came to opportunities
within the network that was there because it kept them
and maintained their status as notable because they were chosen
and selected by Bravo. So once they opened them doors
up to other people, it kind of makes you have
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to have a little bit something else going on in
order to be considered. And I think that's a threat
to people who have thrived within that zeitgeist. So, and
I think Robin Dixon especially as one of them. My
thing is, if Atlanta running out of people, then maybe
your ass need to be looking at houses.
Speaker 4 (04:00):
If you know what I'm saying, you need to move
to Atlanta.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
If Atlanta is now becoming second chance city, maybe you
need to be looking at jobs. It's a lot of coaches,
she said, why I want to coach collegiate basketball? You know,
it's several schools there where he can have opportunities. It's
a lot of laundromats, you know what I'm saying. It's
a lot of shit in Atlanta. That's my thing, you know.
And also the fact that Robin said that that, the
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fact that Robin started all this shit is exactly why
maybe there is still a place for her on the
Housewives cast, right because she stirred all of this up.
Maybe if she had done more of that blatantly instead
of trying to do it second handedly in a sneaky
way when she was on the cast, maybe she would
still be there. So that's my thing. God damn it.
If they running out of people, then maybe this is
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your chance. Maybe you need to get your ass down
to Atlanta and get in front of a camera.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
Laubia Jordan.
Speaker 5 (04:57):
I slightly disagree.
Speaker 6 (04:58):
I will say this because we do commentary, which she
said was nothing different than the kind of stuff that
we might say. They've running out of people, and I
think she may have a point, but I think people
are just running with it. It's K Michelle's He's very like,
not polarizing, but you know, we gonna turn up with
K Michelle. And when I watched the whole clip, she
wasn't trashing Ca Michelle at all.
Speaker 5 (05:19):
She actually was giving her a lot of.
Speaker 6 (05:20):
Props and saying At first I was like nah, but
then the more I thought about it, she's the one
that could go and then stirred up and she actually
gave her a prop. And that's sometimes what I hate
about these click baity titles. It makes it look like
she was really coming for her and had a lot.
Speaker 5 (05:33):
Of shit to say.
Speaker 6 (05:34):
And then Maybek Michelle doesn't watch the whole clip, and
she just sees the one part and doesn't see whether
they were basically giving her her props.
Speaker 5 (05:40):
And saying, if someone can do it, it is K Michelle.
Speaker 6 (05:43):
And I kind of like, don't like that because we
could exactly easy happen to us. They take one part
of our conversation and don't hear it in its full conversation,
in full context, and it seems like you're hating. And
I don't think she was. I don't think she was.
Speaker 5 (05:56):
And I do think yeah, like.
Speaker 6 (05:58):
Now the shows are definitely pollinating, cross promoting. Someone might
be asked to be on a Love and Hip Hop
or or Atlanta Housewives or Potomac or whatever.
Speaker 5 (06:07):
I mean, fuck it, I'm gonna hate again.
Speaker 6 (06:10):
Don't nobody saying nothing when TI be going from every
single reality show, dating every every girl from every reality show.
Like it's just kind of like the sign of the times.
Like people are just like their cross media is changing.
You're not just exclusive to one brand now like they're
they're saying that there's you can have success with bringing
someone that has a fan base from another franchise coming
over here and stirn up. I don't see anything wrong
(06:30):
with it. I also don't think that Robin. I don't
think that Joe. I don't think they came from bad
place at all.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
I don't personally, Okay, I do rain drops. We are
going to get to the Rasheeta and Yandy scene of
it all. Later in this episode We're Live, we're first
talking about kay Michelle clapping back up Robin Dixon from
the Potomac Housewives. I want to I want to ask
you all this question again before I read Chemishell's response.
(06:56):
I'm getting the sense that ky Michelle being on the.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
Real Housewives of Atlanta allegedly.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
Has a lot to do with classism, It has a
lot to do with elitism, and a low key has to.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
Do with that girl over there right.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
I want to have a real conversation about this because
I think ky Michelle being announced as possibly joining the
Real Hospice Atlanta coming from love and hip hop, I'm
starting to get a sense that it is becoming that
ky Michelle isn't that classy enough.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
These are things I saw.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
She's not classy enough to be on the Real Hospital Atlanta.
And my thing is this, if this is somebody who
started day one, season one of the Real Hospitals Atlanta,
I was there with Ninny Lee, Cherie Whitfield, Kim Zosiak, Deshons,
Lisa Wu. When we started that show, there wasn't this
concentration on those ladies being classy. Know where it came
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from that people thought The Real Housewatchs of Atlanta was
a classy show. It was never and that's me being
a fun producer. It was never a classy show. Granted, yes,
they may have highlighted more of the the wealthy people
who were on the show at the time. We saw
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Deshaun Snow's ten thousand square foot home, but the other ladies,
to the audience and toil, all of us lived moderately well.
Nobody was in the mansions like on Beverly Hills. I
think Beverly Hills has the sort of halo over them
as being this sort of like classier show. Although once
(08:44):
again Lisa Renna threw a drink at somebody, Brandy Glanville
slapped Lisa Vanda pump face. Okay, Brandy Laville also slapped
Eileen Davison, a soap actress. When it comes to black
people on the Real Housewives franchise.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
You guys who are saying caym.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
Mischelle does not belong whether you're on TV or not,
what you are saying is that as a black person,
you don't think Cay Michelle as a black woman, deserves
to grow into being somebody that can go to another
show doesn't make a very good point about Claudia Jordan.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Claudia Jordan has been famous that she was a teenager.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
Right when I met her, I didn't and this is
no shame to my girl, Claudia.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
I didn't think to myself, I wonder how classy she is.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
I want I wonder what the square footage of her
home is.
Speaker 5 (09:38):
I was in the apartment.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
Yeah, when I cast Claudia Jordan pitched her, it had
nothing to do. I didn't ask how much money she had.
I didn't asked her to send me photos of her home.
It was about the fact that I saw this strikingly
beautiful woman who had a a a friendly situation with
Kenyon More as somebody who could fit the standard of
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the real hospals Blanta, which was a beautiful, accomplished woman
who know how to be amongst women and stand up
for herself. That's what the fuck the show is about.
You guys, to me care so much. I'm annoyed because listen,
it's a lot happening, But I'm annoyed about this classism.
The real Hospors Blanta is not a classy show. Potomac
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is not a classy show. Jersey is not a classy show,
so Lake City. None of them are classy shows. All
of them has had physical altercations. Just because Love and
hip Hop is known for it does not mean that
anybody that comes from loving hip.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
Hop should be stuck in a box.
Speaker 6 (10:46):
I think that was something that like and being have
worked with both of those shows. As yourself, Carlos, I
think it's always been a thing like, well, we're not
It's kind of like the well, we're not like them,
we're here, you know, we don't fight like them, And
for a while they could say that for a little while,
but then it had definitely changed where there is definitely
more of that behavior on Bond that show as well.
(11:08):
So yeah, it was like kind of like a it
was a classism thing, you know, like you think the housewives.
Speaker 5 (11:14):
Were perceived to be classy.
Speaker 6 (11:16):
They were supposed to be classier, whether or not they
always were.
Speaker 5 (11:20):
I mean, there's an argument to be made.
Speaker 6 (11:22):
And you got to say, and Love and hip Hop,
there are definitely way more fights.
Speaker 5 (11:26):
But let's be clear this there's been fights on both.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
They've been fights on both.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
I will say this Love and Hip Hop shows more
other fights oh.
Speaker 6 (11:36):
Yeah, because I do remember a certain someone get in
the fight in a hall in an alley and they
never showed it, and I was like, see, y'all keep
being okay with violent behavior but then acting like this
is classy shit and it wasn't.
Speaker 5 (11:49):
But yeah, I think it's a class thing.
Speaker 6 (11:50):
Like well, I remember when there's reports out that I'm
maybe joining Love and Hip Hop Miami, which I've done
a couple of scenes with Rada because she's on there,
Michael Blackson, and it was like, oh what a she
went from Atlanta Housewives to Love and hip Hop And
it was definitely like this class stuffy and thrown to
me like I must be desperate somehow or things must
not be going well, honey.
Speaker 5 (12:12):
I The only class I care about is what class
my check is in.
Speaker 6 (12:15):
I like to work and make money as long as
I'm not out here fighting, playing myself and embarrass myself.
Speaker 5 (12:20):
You will see Claudie jordanha setting in the credits.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
Okay, Also, what the fuck is it to you?
Speaker 4 (12:27):
What right?
Speaker 3 (12:29):
You're a viewer enjoyed the show, just like we enjoy
the shows that we watch. People got to stop acting
like just because and this back to your earlier statement
Carlos about this opinion of a lot of people that
there is a class distinction in the casting efforts of
the Real Housewives of Atlanta and other cities versus Love
and Hip Hop, which there is a different talent pool, right,
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and a different pool criteria that applies to these shows,
which is exactly why Ky Michelle is a rare case
that has been able to navigate right across into this
into the Bravo universe.
Speaker 4 (13:06):
Now, right, she can do it.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
Tammy Rivera could have done it, Toya right, Toyo Johnson
could to.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
Toya Rushing, who, by the way, auditioned to be a
Michelle and I was there doing her casting tape.
Speaker 4 (13:19):
Well, Russian, she could do it.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
There's a lot of women who have full lives that
that that could fill up the space that a real
housewife requires. I think because of someone came to Shechelle's
more sensational behaviors in the past, people are surprised that
the choice was her, But that's what it is. And
just because a lot of people think something with the end,
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I don't care what nobody says. The introduction of the
comment section started all as shit because once people started
adding value to opinion.
Speaker 4 (13:50):
We ended up in this space where now creative.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
Minds are second guessing their their instincts, you know what
I'm saying, because of public opinion and because of the
fucking comments, or because of what an audience has to say.
And while it does matter if an audience receives a
project and watches a show or listens to a music project,
their opinion is something that they're entitled to but doesn't
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have any value towards the project.
Speaker 4 (14:17):
And that's where people get it fucked up.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
So they come up with these ideas that there is
a classist element to the casting of Real Housewives shows,
and now they feel as if they have authority to
determine who's good enough and who's not, so much so
that they will in it.
Speaker 4 (14:31):
They will. Kymi Schelle's not my favorite.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
Person, right, but I don't think she deserves to be
slapped in the face every day with a comment that
she's not good enough for this damn show.
Speaker 4 (14:41):
Quiet as it's kept.
Speaker 3 (14:42):
That's why Robin ended up getting what she got because
Key Mischelle was probably sick and tired of seeing people
say that she was not good enough to be a
part of the Bravo universe, and I think that's a problem.
If a lot of people think something, then people just
decide that that is not.
Speaker 4 (14:58):
A rule or a law.
Speaker 3 (14:59):
Similar to the conversation regarding seating arrangements at the Real
Housewives reunions, people have decided that there is a value
to what seat you sitting next to and all that
other shit, and countless times producers people involved have said
that there is not.
Speaker 4 (15:13):
People just decide that it is. And so now where
you're sitting is a big deal.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
Y'all got to back up off of that sometimes and
just enjoy the entertainment and let that.
Speaker 4 (15:21):
Be that.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
This is reality with the King and I'm Carlos King.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
Let's get back into the show.
Speaker 5 (15:31):
With weeby being faked, though not fake or disingenuous.
Speaker 6 (15:33):
If we don't say that there is there is a
class thing going on, especially with when it comes to
zoos love and hip hop, and they were supposed to
because like the other day, even with us, I gotta
keep it buck when wet about Jocelyn being on Real
Housewives up.
Speaker 4 (15:47):
I mean, we all was like, well, my reaction wasn't
rooted in classes.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
My reaction wasn't rooted in classes, and That's exactly where
I just articulated it the way I did when I
said there's a difference in the talent pool and then
the criteria for the talent pool, it's simply a different.
Speaker 4 (16:04):
Net being cast. It doesn't mean that.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
One if someone feels that there's a class distinction, that's
a personal slant, you know what I'm saying. It's simply
a different call sheet that goes out. They're going to
ask for different types of people, and they're trying to
profile a different worldview or a different perspective. You're gonna
ask for different people, and certain shows are crafted to
show a different perspective.
Speaker 4 (16:28):
That's just what it is to me.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
If you think the people on Zeus or Now That's
TV or Love and Hip Hop are better or worse
than the people on Bravo, you got some internal work
to do because it's just a different talent pool.
Speaker 4 (16:40):
That's it.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
I drew the talent pool because even when I said that, look,
I would love to see Joscelyn Hernandez on Miami. The
reason why I said that, and I wasn't saying that
to be like just a start a thought provoking conversation.
Joscelyn is from Miami, Florida. Joslyn speaks fluently in Spanish.
I am a huge fan of Miami Housewives. I do
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feel like, this is my opinion as a viewer of
that show.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
I do feel like it's missing something right.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
And look, I think because Jocelyn is a Puerto Rican
woman from a different from a different world than those women,
I just feel like it could be interesting.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
And that's the reason why.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
Look, the world is evolving, and I know the three
of us haven't told once in our lives that we
did not belong in certain rooms.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
Right, I'll speak for myself. I know I have and
I may.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
Be Carlos King, but I still get that today today,
people still see me as we love you, but we
don't love you as much as to bring you into
this room. And that is some real shit. So listen,
me just being completely transparent. Maybe I am taking it
personally when I see someone like kay Michelle being a
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topic of conversation because she was on a VH one
show I work with her.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
Cam Michelle has never key. Michelle has never physically put
her hands on anybody. She threw a candle at Rosheita,
But my goodness, gracious Marge Joseph spilled the whole drink
on Danielle's style, like, y'all gotta stop looking at black
women on certain shows as if they don't belong.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
And that's why when it comes to Zeus, look, I
may not watch Zeus. And this has nothing to do
with classism. It has to do it at my big age.
I like, I like a story, like I like a
BAGHINTI of middle and an end. When I was in
my twenties, I watched Raggles Club every freaking Monday if
(18:45):
think it came on. And that's why I love Natalie None,
I love I know all this girls, Finisha Thomas. But
it doesn't mean I have to say, don't watch Zeus.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
Don't watch should not exist because you're not entertainment. That's
the difference here, right. People decide that their opinion or
their feeling about something can now determine a rule or
the existence of something. And I think that's the distinction
where people kind of have to police their damn self, right, Like,
just because you have a feeling about something like Carlos,
(19:17):
you can want Jocelyn to be you can think that
Johnson would be a great choice for the Real Housewives
in Miami, And there's nothing wrong with you feeling like that.
I can agree or I can disagree. There's nothing wrong
with that. It doesn't mean we're bad people. You understand
what I'm saying. And it's okay for things to be subjective,
like all of that is okay. And so if a
person feels like there is a classist, classist element to
(19:40):
this internally for them, then you need to do that
internal work your damn self, because I can literally say
I'm not speaking from that place. Yeah, and I know
you're not.
Speaker 4 (19:52):
Yeah. No, that's my story, you know what I tell
you all the time.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
If our grandmamas and our mamas because sit up and
watch Guiding Light and Passions and One Life to goddamn
Live and the bold and and Beautiful and all my cheering,
if they can watch all of that, then we can
watch our stories, which just might be Baddie's Africa, which
just might be Baddie's Gone Well, or Joscelyn's Cabaret, okay,
(20:18):
or maybe South Central Baddies on Now That's TV. You know,
maybe it's one of those shows my PA's my comfort television,
call it what you want.
Speaker 5 (20:26):
That's it.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
That's it, And I think that's fair. Claudia's having to
Wi Fi issues. Don't worry y'all.
Speaker 4 (20:31):
We did not tick out.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
Yeah, she is not going to find her luggage.
Speaker 4 (20:37):
No, she ain't.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
No feara culture fans know that, So Dustin, I want
to read to you what ky Michelle said. In response
to Robin Dixon and Giselle Brian's conversation.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
Michelle wrote in the.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
Comments, why be so worried about me and my overly
educated and successful self and what I might be doing? Robin,
you ran out of a job a long time ago.
You would love to be recycled, you little cosh potato.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
Just yapping.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
You should have ran through the hotel lobby where your
husband was. Lady Giselle, you look beautiful. Leave me alone
and let me go. Yellllo in peace. Kim Michelle did
not stop there. She continued dusting with I'm around here
selling our shows and you're selling baseball hats, But you
worried about.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
Me and what I might be doing the nerve of
this cosh potato listen not but nothing.
Speaker 3 (21:42):
Chemille's funny by jil, which is why she's gonna add
value to their cast. One of the reasons why she
should add value to their real house whiles of Atlantic
cast when she holding their peach like we know she's
about to. Now here's the thing that was hilarious. Comedic
value always makes something better. She he went there with wine,
the wine shit, whatever, But that was hilarious. Couch potato
(22:04):
was funny as hell, and I could see her saying
it was hilarious, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (22:09):
That's just it was what it was.
Speaker 3 (22:11):
And I think that even though I personally don't think
that Robin said anything offensive or disrespectful, I think the
grouping of Cay Michelle's casting with the notion that Atlanta
must be running out of people, as if the other
choices would have been more reasonable than her, I think
that that's the negative slant that kind of registered with
(22:34):
k Michelle and prompted her response. So although I don't
think that Robin like disrespected her blatantly in any way,
you know, and she just simply did just share a perspective,
it still was one that's not positive. You know what
I'm saying. It's like you're saying that, damn, since they
cast me, they must be running out of the people.
What the fuck is that supposed to me, and I
think that's how ca Michelle received it. You know what
(22:55):
I'm saying. But couch Potato was funny as hell, and
that's that.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
Claudia, did you?
Speaker 1 (23:03):
I know you were gone, but that's okay, that's okay.
Do you want me to read you what cay Michelle said?
You remember it?
Speaker 5 (23:10):
Can you read again? Because the way my matter?
Speaker 2 (23:13):
No, no, I'll good.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
So Cay Michelle said, why be so worried about me
and my overly educated and successful self and what I
might be doing? Robin, you ran out of a job
a long time ago. You would love to be recycled,
you little cossed potato, just yapping. You should have ran
through that hotel lobby where your husband was. Lady Giselle,
(23:38):
you look beautiful. Leave me alone and let me go, yodo.
She continued. I'm around here selling got shows and you're
selling baseball hats, but you.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
Worried about it? Does the stop?
Speaker 3 (23:51):
I think about Warwick every time she say baseball hats.
I think about Dion Warwick and them hats that should
be wearing it. Just every time she said, when I
see that, she said baseball hats, which is a very
black way to describe Robin's hats. Okay, I think about them.
Has Dion Warrid be wearing and it just takes me out.
(24:12):
If Robin was smart, that's who she would have had
modeled them off. I'll bet you them hats would have
been out the window.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
That's actually smart.
Speaker 3 (24:20):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
So Claudia, she said, while you running rocket something baseball hats,
but you're worried about meeting what I might be doing.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
The nerve of this cost potato.
Speaker 6 (24:31):
I think the punishment didn't fit the crime. I feel
like I feel like the shape from Robin was a two.
I think the clydback from Camashall was a twenty two,
which you know that's what you're gonna get, right, so listen.
Speaker 5 (24:44):
Now it's on ten. Now it's up, I guess.
Speaker 6 (24:46):
But I mean, if we didn't do commentary like we
do commentary, we could find ourselves in this position easily
and there's everything we say deserve to get a level
twenty two clip back. No, I do think two things
be true at the same time. I do think Michelle.
I think Robin caught it because ky Mischelle had had
enough of being dragged by so many other people having
(25:07):
their opinion about if she was good enough for Housewives,
accomplished enough to get whatever the hell, and I think
she's probably was at her wits end. It's more about
that now I can't agree with someone things that Robin
said about recycling people and using the same people over
and over again, because we we did be wanting like
that fresh.
Speaker 5 (25:23):
She doesn't have to be a celebrity like someone that
just brings that energy. But I do think Calvin cut.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
You off now that I yes, then I can get
I can get with sorry ahead.
Speaker 6 (25:33):
But I do think Cay Michelle doesn't deserve as much
as a smoke because I do think that she with
all that being said, she has shown growth, she has
moved on. I mean, I didn't like when she was
hitting people with flowers and throwing stuff at the Camelong
kind of stuff and long.
Speaker 5 (25:50):
You know, I don't want to see her doing that
and the.
Speaker 6 (25:51):
Housewives capacity, but like she let's not act like this
woman has not evolved.
Speaker 5 (25:56):
She's entered into a new area of music in the
country scene.
Speaker 6 (26:00):
She's probably been sick of getting attacked by them, white people,
mad that black people are taking over their spaces. She's
been getting dragged for probably a few years with this stuff.
Now she's gone on to get married. She was on
Queen's Court, which she did a really good job. She
showed growth on that show, so she's probably like, god, damn, yeah,
I was gett on hood back then, but I have
evolved since then, and I'm kind of sick and tired
(26:21):
of people saying I'm not good enough. Still I understand
what she feel frustrated then, and I think Robin was
probably just like the straw that broke the camel's back.
I don't think what Robin really warranted all that. I
think Robin caught the heat from all the other people
talking shit about Ky Michelle and came show was like, well,
goddamn you about to get it for everybody else. That's
(26:41):
kind of what I feel like, because I don't think
Robin Robin will do it a little shit. But if you,
damn if you do, you damn if you don't. When
you do a podcast, you don't you give him something.
You a hater, You don't give him something. You're boring,
And I think that's what I think, that's where they
do it.
Speaker 3 (26:53):
To They just did it to me on our show
this week Monday, when I was talking about the housewives
in New Jersey because you know, even though I don't
be in the I don't mean all my cousins and
shit back home. And it was a lady named Michelle
Baron that called me a bitch for no reason.
Speaker 4 (27:06):
She was like, dusting is a bit. Some lady named
Michelle Baron.
Speaker 3 (27:09):
She had them Charlotte Airport, white rocking chair teeth in
her mouth, big ass front.
Speaker 4 (27:14):
Teeth leaning back like that.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
Everybody know that's the best part about the Charlotte Airport,
them right rocking chairs. Okay, that's what her teacher looked like.
And you know, my cousins ran it right down to me.
Call me a bitch for no reason. You know what
I'm saying that all I said was what happened with
Teresa and never took a side, never did none of that.
But you didn't, right, So people like that Michelle Barron
lady are just gonna be negative, you know what I'm saying,
(27:37):
just for the sake of and it just it's a
part of it.
Speaker 4 (27:40):
So unfortunately Robin just got called Michelle.
Speaker 6 (27:43):
You know, I did be seeing a girl a negative
A lot of common say, Michelle, maybe it's the same
one but she's probably not getting any dick or pussy,
and she's probably angry.
Speaker 4 (27:51):
I don't care about.
Speaker 5 (27:52):
I got a back and low titties, hanging love strep
walks on the stomach.
Speaker 6 (27:56):
You know she's probably Yeah, you'll be looking fine and
in shape, got a big ass, dead got money, got
a rooftop.
Speaker 5 (28:03):
You've got views of the city.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (28:07):
I get it.
Speaker 3 (28:07):
It's all good. You know what I'm saying. She definitely
looked like Uncle Phil a little bit.
Speaker 4 (28:13):
You know what I'm saying. It was all good. You
know what I'm saying. It's all good.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
Okay, it's all good.
Speaker 4 (28:20):
We love the rain drops. She ain't no rain drop.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
I didn't see that comment.
Speaker 4 (28:27):
I didn't neither my cousin. They look. They send me
a screenshot. I ain't.
Speaker 3 (28:33):
They went to her youthube account, screenshot of her picture
and send it to me.
Speaker 4 (28:38):
You know what I'm saying. So I want I want
to I want to.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
You look like an owl, Michelle Baron. I just want
you to know that you literally look like an owl
in the face with jowls.
Speaker 5 (28:54):
That's okay.
Speaker 4 (28:54):
So poor caught her up a little bit.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
Is Claudia Prosen again.
Speaker 4 (29:03):
So okay, yeah she is Okay.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
I will say this. I will say this.
Speaker 4 (29:07):
I will say this.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
I grew with all of you guys. In terms of Robin, Listen,
I've been around Robin. Robin's job as a pod Holt
podcast post is to talk about the topic. Yes, you
just said, Dustin, you you gave Teresa so much praise.
You made a comment that people didn't like, and all
of a sudden it erased everything positive you said. Which,
(29:33):
by the way, Teresa liked the post that I posted
of you. Uh, talk about that, So I wanted you
to know that. And by the way, Teresa wanted me
to tell you.
Speaker 3 (29:43):
Hi, Dustin, Hi Teresa, what's up Teresa? I hope your
season love.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
Yes, so Teresa wanted me to tell you, She says.
Speaker 3 (29:51):
Hello, thank you, And I like your Applientis I love
with smig? Do you have a mixer in your kitchen? Carlos,
you got a kitchen aid?
Speaker 5 (30:04):
No? Should I?
Speaker 3 (30:06):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (30:06):
My mama has had a kitchen aid for my grandmother
all that man thirty years. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (30:16):
Is it Simon?
Speaker 1 (30:20):
I think Simon has other things of her about besides
your wi final It must be somebody else.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
Well, I wasn't gonna say today, but I'm not gonna
do that because that that will blow the end of day.
I'll text you, but what I will say. What I
will say is this.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
Robin's job is to be a podcast host and to
stay her opinion.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
All three of us get dragged.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
I have seen people tag some of my friends in
reality TV saying Carlos is laughing at people talking.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
About you like y'all.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
Y'all, y'all try to get people to like comfort us
and that's not okay. Y'all either want entertaining show or you.
But the fact that some of y'all run till.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
That is wow. But I digress anyways.
Speaker 5 (31:06):
Don't it's mortal? It's mortal? Is that? I mean?
Speaker 2 (31:16):
I dispelled the name. Don't say a live.
Speaker 5 (31:23):
Mortal or time.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
I would vote for Todd.
Speaker 1 (31:31):
Reality with the King is executive produced by me Carlos King,
produced by Lizzie Nimitz, and a partnership.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
With the Lack of Effect Network.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
You can also find us on my YouTube channel at
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