August 29, 2025 • 52 mins
Reigndrops, this might just be the best season of RHOC - and we’d pass a lie detector test on that ;) Alexis Bellino is back with Carlos to break down all the drama! Where do we even start? Lunch with Kiki Monique, Gretchen passing every lie detector test, and Katie… Well, not so much. Alexis opens up about feeling vindicated by the answers that came out and the friends weigh in on what Katie’s fate might be in her OC journey. PLUS, is someone putting their wedding on PAUSE?! Listen for the tea!
See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Mark as Played
Transcript
Episode Transcript
Available transcripts are automatically generated. Complete accuracy is not guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (00:03):
Reality with the King is hosted by me, Carlos King.
I'm an executive producer who have produced some of your
favorite shows from the Real Housewives in Atlanta, New Jersey
and my own creation, The Love and Marriage Franchise and
Bell Collective. Every episode, we recap reality television from the
Real Housewives Franchise to The Bachelor or Selling Sunset, in
(00:27):
addition to celebrity guests, whether in the unscripted space or
scripted as well. Hey, rain Jobson Dave's episode of Reality
with the King.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
This episode of the Real Housewives of Orange County gave
me all the fields, good, bad, and different. I'm confused,
I'm lost.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
I'm dazed, but I'm not naked, and I'm here with
my girl, Alexis Ballino.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
Hello, how are you gorgeous? I'm good.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
I think this is the first time I've ever podcasted
with you when you didn't have glasses on.
Speaker 4 (01:09):
Jackson, you know.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
You know what's my buddy.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
I wanted to make sure that you and the ray
jobs who are watching this on YouTube get to see
my eyes because.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
These are the I don't have a live detective.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Test, hey, Emily, but what I do have are my
eyes to tell you my truth serum perfect.
Speaker 4 (01:32):
Okay, now I know what.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Oh so let's just get right into this crazy ass episode.
I mean, Alexis. We have to talk about the scene
that pretty much popened up the episode, which is the
eighth housewife who finally made her debut on the Real
(01:58):
house Watch Sports County after being mentioned in every single
episode since episode one. Gretchen and Gina sent her down
and immediately they.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
Talked to her about what Katie has alleged since the
start of the season, which is the fact that.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
Katie allegedly told Keiki Monique thinks about Gretchen things that
we found out on this episode about Gina that we
have to get into. But first that Gretchen did tell
Keiki Monique that after naked Wasted seventeen eighteen years ago,
that she went to the hospital and Kikimo Nique said,
(02:40):
that's exactly what she was told. Are you surprised that
Katie has been found out to be a liar once
again and again and again and again.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
Well no, because I mean, obviously I didn't realize the
extent of her life until I was light about myself
and she's still carrying that story on.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
But does she Alexis is, so after you debunked it
on this show, has she made a statement.
Speaker 4 (03:12):
On this on this episode?
Speaker 5 (03:13):
She did.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
She took the light of test on this episode about
it and said, you know, the person the examiner asked,
did you share your memo with Alexis?
Speaker 4 (03:24):
And maybe she said no because she didn't send it
to me.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
Maybe that's how she got out, or no, she did
lie about it. It was found to be a lie. Actually,
But I mean, I'm wondering Katie's mind if she thinks
it's because she didn't send it to me, but she
did share it with me at the restaurant, So I
don't know either way we.
Speaker 4 (03:39):
Got anyway we talk about it. It's like Katie keeps.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
Getting caught, and I just wonder if she, after she
watches all these episodes, if she just finally goes, Okay,
I need to do something about this, you know, episode
eight now, and she's still sticking to it and still
you know, I do think that the one lie that
I don't think is a lie is I do think
(04:03):
Gretchen told her at dinner that night. I do think
Gretchen had a story and told Slade and with Ryan
Jen and Slade and.
Speaker 4 (04:15):
Slade and Matt.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
Yeah that Katie. That did tell Katie that she was
really sick and.
Speaker 4 (04:22):
Thought she got roofed. I do think that happened. What
do you think?
Speaker 1 (04:26):
So you okay, so rain jobs. You know how we
recap episodes. We're not going to go see by thing
because who gives a ship. Let's just have an overall conversation.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
About this episode.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
Right last week, you and I converse and I said, look,
I love Gretchen my gut and base from what I'm watching,
I do believe Gretchen told Katie this information.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
I said that last week.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
I even said two weeks before that, remember Alexis when
ca Aady rushed in the room giving you oscar worthy performance,
right that, I believe that Slade called Matt and Si
let's get our story together. And that's why Katie pretended
when she walked into the hotel room, welcome by Jen
and Gretchen. Oh my gosh, So what happened as if
(05:19):
she was here for the first time, only to find
out that yet they had a conversation on camera. So
I saw that to say, as I'm watching the beginning
of the episode, I'm like, okay, Kekim on Nika saying
Katie did tell me this, and I'm like, I still
believe Gretchen told Katie this, But then the line Detective
Tess happened, and if interestings, I'm gonna be very honest,
(05:43):
and I love all the girls, but I gotta be
honest everybody who's calling a lie.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
I was not surprised. So with that being said, when
Gretchen passed the like.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
Colors, I'm like, now I'm really confused, because I believe
everyone who got caught to lie fled a little bit.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
So the fact that Gretchen path of blind colors, I'm like, alexis,
what do you do?
Speaker 4 (06:10):
What do?
Speaker 2 (06:10):
What do we make of this? I'm confused here.
Speaker 4 (06:13):
There's two things to this. First, First of all, I'm
a Dateline kind of sewer.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
Okay, like I don't want it now because I don't
have time, but especially over COVID, Oh honey, I went
through every single one of those, probably four times each.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (06:27):
Anyway, there is a known.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
Fact on Dateline, and I'm not a detective, but they
do say that a sociopath is the only person that
can pass with flying colors of any of any light
detector test. Okay, because even the most honest person still
flubs up and their heart races the little or whatever.
Speaker 4 (06:44):
Only those of your paths. So take that information with
what you want, and thank you Dateline for you know,
informing us and educating.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
The second part is the lie detector. People ask the
wrong question. They should have asked, Gretchen, did you lie
follow me?
Speaker 2 (06:58):
Okay?
Speaker 3 (06:58):
Did you lie in the back of the car about
going to the hospital when you.
Speaker 4 (07:03):
Were with Shannon and Tamra.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
That's what they should have asked her, because then she
would have caught caught lying because she lied in the
back of the car. But she would have said no
or something that she would have been caught in a lie,
or she could have said even if she said yes,
did she still get caught gets caught as the liar
because you lied in the back of the car. So
in the other part, why didn't Gretchen or why didn't
Tamra or Shannon call Gretchen out at that moment, because
(07:28):
here's the deal, they were sitting there when Gretchen said,
in the back of the car, I did go.
Speaker 4 (07:32):
I felt really I was really sick.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
Why wouldn't they have just said, right in front of everybody,
with the light detector woman there too. Well, we heard
you say it in the back of the car, so
you were lying then, you know, so the other way.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
I'm just confused by that.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
So I want to say this, I agree with you.
I thought the same thing. And then I thought one thing.
I know producing these shows, reality shows and alexas, I
would love to get your POV.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
Because you're very honest. You've always been honest.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
I thought, at that moment, if they remembered that conversation
the back of the car, because obviously you shoot so
many scenes that I did. I did wanted to, like,
I wonder if they remember, because my thing is this,
let's let's call it spade a fade. Shannon and camera
are not there to protect wretching. So I believe my
(08:25):
gut is telling me that the reason why they didn't
bring it up is because at that time, with everything
going on, they probably didn't remember. Because let's be clear,
and this is me talking as a producer, they had
to flash back to it to remind us because listen,
maybe it's just me, but elected maybe you remember. I
(08:45):
forgot she said that in the backseat of the car.
Until they flashed back to it.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
I didn't because it was I remembered that she was
lying about She kept lying about it by saying I
didn't say I did, I didn't do any but then
it was so it was such an impactful moment. But
also maybe Tam and Shannon didn't remember that happening either
until you know, then they filmed that scene with the
light detector test, and then all of this is aired
and then they're like, oh, she did lie to us,
(09:09):
because especially after you've had a cocktailer two and you're
filming and you're exhausted in the back of the car
when y all are headed home, you don't remember every
single little thing. And it probably wasn't like some some
you know, major thing that Shannon and tamor were like, ooh,
that's a good moment we got we caught her because
they didn't really know how the whole season was going
to unfold. So maybe you're right about that when you
put on the producer's hat, maybe you're right about that.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
Yes, Because what I want the audience to understand is this,
when you watch their confessionals, those are taped weeks and
months after it airs, and oftentimes rain drops when you
watch the confessionals is because the producers already edited the
episode and they're asking questions based on the scenes that
(09:53):
made it. These housewives and reality stars film a ton
of scenes and sometimes you don't see them, so so
when the producer decide all this scene would make it.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Oh, well, we actually found a moment where she did
say it.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
Then they asked the housewife, for example, Tam or Sanat,
don't you remember when Gretchen said this to you?
Speaker 2 (10:14):
They're like, oh, oh my god, she did, let's talk
about it.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
So I do believe that's what happened based on my
knowledge being a producer. But you are right in the
sense of look the lie detective test. Folks did not
ask the right question because I never thought about it
that way, which is why I was confused, because on
(10:38):
one hand, I'm like, I believe Gretchen told Katie this,
but it leads me to this. I love me some Jen.
I think Jen is a good girl. I think she's great,
I think she's funny. Is Jen capable of choosing Gretchen's
(10:59):
side over Katie because she wants to be friends with
Gretchen and does she think aligning with Gretchen protects her
position on the show?
Speaker 2 (11:11):
What did you make of it?
Speaker 1 (11:12):
Because if we're saying that Gretchen did say it, why
is Jen also lying for Gretchen when she met Katie
before Gretchen.
Speaker 4 (11:22):
That's a really good question.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
But I'll tell you what this show does do to
most of the women that film these shows is you
do get kind of caught up in it and forming
the proper alliance and am I making the right decision?
And the conversations you have off camera with some of
these women can sway you and can have you jump
ship or go to it in a different direction, or
(11:44):
even just you know, maybe Jen's actually believing some more of.
Speaker 4 (11:47):
What I mean. Here's the deal.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
We all know, get Gretchen and Katie are both liars.
We know it, even though forget the light detector test,
it's clear as day when you watch the footage they're
both liars. So I think Jen might be like, Okay,
you know, I love them both, because you do still
love them even when you're you know, filming with them,
and it's like, you don't wish ill on any of
these women.
Speaker 4 (12:07):
We're trying to do a job.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
But I think that Jin is probably getting a lot
of you know, noise from Gretchen and behind the scenes
and probably has now noticed some of the lies Katie
said to be pretty evident and true. So maybe she's
just kind of confused and like, I don't really know
what I'm doing. But Gretchen's kind of new now and
doesn't have as much of a track record as lying
(12:30):
as Katie has. Katie's lied now for two straight seasons,
so maybe that's where Jin's thinking.
Speaker 4 (12:34):
I don't know. But my thing is, when I have
a friend, I'm so loyal that.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
Like I wouldn't even be able to I wouldn't be
able to sit there and cover for someone even if
they're lying. I don't care how loyal I am are.
It's like the truth comes over loyalty, Yeah, because it
always gets found out in the long run. And just wait, Carlos,
I told you this was going to be good, and
I told you I didn't think at the end of
Kiki Monique was three episodes ago. I'm like, this Kiki
Moniq thing's going to go somewhere, and now she probably
(13:00):
did sign to be the eighth housewife.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
You know, this is reality with the King, and I'm
Carlos King.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
Let's get back into the show. I would love it
for Kikibo Be. I like Kikibo Bee.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
You did call it from day one, and you even
called the last week.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
But I'm like, this long detective test shit is so cliche.
But you said it would be entertaining and looking forward
to it, and I must admit it was entertaining.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
So getting back to kikim Monique, she also pointed at
Gina and said, Katie also told me you made a
comment about Asian designers, and from what she told me,
it made.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
It seem like you're being racist.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
In that moment, I was like, that is so specific
that there's no way in hell ki kim Monique made
that up.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
If you want to question the validity of the naked
waisted because we as viewers saw that shit seventeen years ago. Hey,
I can understand it, right.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
That is so specific, to the point that once again
rain Drops listened up to a producer. That's why the
editors had to flash not even flashback could have never
seen it. Had to scrub the footage and find the
moment of Gina making that comment. I have to watch
that moment a couple of times because I wanted to
(14:23):
make sure that I was reacting to it, not just
in the moment, but having it sit with me based
on what Gina asked, I as a black person, right,
And when I say that, I'm not Katie, So I'm
not saying that my me being a black person personal
(14:43):
color over ri saw Katie fell.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
So I'm not saying that.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
What I'm saying is I, as a black person a
personal color, heard what Gina said. I didn't take that
as Gina being racist. I took that as Gina stating that, look,
you told me you were wearing Asian designers Bowse on
Beverley Hills Housewives said, And I think she succeeded in
(15:09):
this based on my knowledge that she was going to
wear African American African American designers throughout the entire.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
Season of Beverly Hills. So I know that that's a.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
Thing based on that. I don't think Gina said that
to be racist. I think I think Gina said that
because she was asking about it.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
And then when Katie was called.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
Doing the live protective test aftermath, not the questions, but
the aftermath, she said, well, it hurt my feelings. And
guess what, I can understand that, but say that, and
why is that something? Why is that something you tell
radio hosts and not something you would say to Gina
(15:56):
like hey, I didn't like that, or tell a producer
this is how I felt.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
Let's talk about it. That's why Katie's losing me.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
But what did you think about that whole thing too,
with what Katie said kicking money?
Speaker 3 (16:07):
Well, well, first of all, yeah, it's like it's like,
here's the thing, why is why is Katie saying so
much juicy stuff? It's like, is she does she think
that these bloggers are going to be her best friends
or any of these journalists are going to become her
best friends because she's got gossip. It really backfired on her.
I think that's what she intended and was hoping for,
but it backfired on her. And I think she got
caught up in the whole you know, media of everything
(16:29):
and a little bit of the fame and all of that.
Speaker 4 (16:31):
I think she got caught up in that. But here's
the thing.
Speaker 3 (16:35):
If you say I'm wearing an American designer, I'm wearing
an African designer, I'm wearing an Asian designer.
Speaker 4 (16:41):
I don't believe that's racist at all.
Speaker 3 (16:43):
It's like, Okay, I would be proud that I'm wearing
an African designer, I would be proud about, you know
what it is and and mention it. It's not racist
to say that in my opinion, so I agree with
you on that. But I think Katie is looking for
anything right now to get some sympathy from the girls
or just to you know, just to kind of relate
to the girls some and be like, look, you guys
can hurt.
Speaker 4 (17:02):
My feelings too. You know. I know I've hurt your
OL's feelings and you don't let you.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
Don't trust me with the bloggers and all this, but
that did hurt my feelings, and I think that backfired
on her because I think I don't know.
Speaker 4 (17:11):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
I haven't read any of the comments on social media
or anything now, but I wonder what is being said
out there, like is everyone agreeing with us on that
or do they feel like girl listen?
Speaker 1 (17:24):
And I don't care too either, because at the end
of the day, Katie can do no wrong in the
eyes of people social media, and that's why I don't
give a shit about what they say.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
Listen. I don't know. I didn't look at it, but
I don't give a shit anyway.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
Because a lot of people, which is it's fine, have
your favorites.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
I don't give a shit. There's a strong group of
people on.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
Twitter who love Katie and believe Katie until the end
of time.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
And that's okay. I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
That's why I had to say how I felt in
the moment and why I watched that moment a couple
of times. I wanted to hear Gina again. I wanted
to understand it. I did not get that from it.
But what I will say once again, I do believe
that perhaps Katie in the moment may have had her
feelings hurt, felt that way whatever. Okay, However, I'm saying
(18:20):
I didn't see it that way as a person who
watched the show too. And on top of that, one
thing I will say is this, I have a hit podcast.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
Thank you Alexa for joining it.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
But I say that to say I even get people
dming me stop. They don't say to me, so hear
me out Alexi's gagag. I had Theology stars send me stuff.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
Do they say, oh, you.
Speaker 4 (18:50):
Can't stop there. You got to give us give us
some feedback here?
Speaker 2 (18:53):
No?
Speaker 1 (18:53):
No, yeah, I'm not gonna say no. But you know
I'm saying, I'm saying it happens.
Speaker 3 (18:59):
So for example, like what my mind going everywhere? I
have no idea what Just give me a generic one
of the.
Speaker 4 (19:05):
Generics and don't tell who it is.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
Okay, I had somebody, Okay.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
The last one I receee was from a reality star
who sent me a post that was in her favor
based on someone talking badly about her arch nemesis and
(19:29):
whether or not she felt that this validated her.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
Now, she did not say talk about it. She did not.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
Say, please talk about on your podcast.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
But she sent it to me and I looked at
it and I just that was in it.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
My point is, I know she said that to me
for me to talk about it, and I didn't, right,
I didn't because I like to cite my source there
that's on my podcast.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
I never say, well I was told.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
By Birdie no, because I think I think it gets
in the weeds of just like mess. And my point
is saying all of this is I one hundred and
fifty percent believe that Katie met with keikim O Nique
and told her these things so that she could talk
about it.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
No one could tell me differently.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
And the reason why Nobah could tell me differently, is
because they do it to me. I have enough sense
not to say the shit because I'm not a dummy,
and I know when I'm being set up.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
Well, good point, And I think that's smart of you,
because he says, she say is half the time fifty
percent of the time not true anyway, Sometimes it's true,
but it's not all the time true, and it's it's
like the game of telephone and rumors and all of that.
So you get into that water, which I think you're
smart because you are credible. You do stick to sources
that you can go back and show the evidence or
(20:57):
have the backup for it.
Speaker 4 (20:59):
So but I agree with you, I think Katie one
hundred percent.
Speaker 3 (21:01):
Well, first of all, I think, like I said, she
got caught up in a little bit like, oh my gosh,
these people actually want to talk to me because I
have a little bit of fame now and they're actually
interested in what I have to say, and so she
wanted to have some juice or some gossip for her.
But I also, I think you're right. I never thought
about it that way, but I think you're right. She
probably was hoping it would get brought up and unfortunately
because some of it was lies and not true.
Speaker 4 (21:23):
It backfired on Katie.
Speaker 3 (21:25):
Like I said earlier, you know, it's it didn't work
in her favor at all.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
Well yeah, no at all.
Speaker 3 (21:29):
Twitter likes it, but you know, and it is not
a believing that Katie was lying and all of that.
Speaker 4 (21:34):
But we'll just have to see. I mean there's more.
There's a lot more show to be shown.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
Yeah, that's a lot more to be shown. So okay,
so one of the let me tell your tothing. First
of all, I don't know if the producer was that
Emily who rubbed the questions for the Lie Detective Test
people to ask these women. I want to say this,
My favorite moment of the Life Detective Test was the
(22:01):
fact that they asked heathern de bro if she wants
to be a real housewalk for Belly Hills. I thought
that shit was so funny. Alexis like, who came up
with that? The fact that she Heather, I know you
think I hate you. I don't hate anybody. I'm just
I just don't kiss your ass, but I love you.
I think you're a great house life, but I'm not
(22:22):
kissing your ass like the others do. One thing I
will say, though, is a blind man can see that
heathern de Bro wants to be on.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
The real housebo to Billy Hills.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
Guess one, alexis I if I had a choice of
all the housewives, I would be on Beverley Hill all
it because I like the lifestyle.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
I like the accent. I would love to go to
a Kathy Hills a Christmas party.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
I actually loved that lifestyle, that is Heaven's lifestyle. But
the fact that she was like I only said yes
because of the distance.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
Heather.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
That's why I can't stand you the way I want to,
because I wish you would have saient if all of
us had a fucking choice in this room, we all
would choose that show.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
Get out of right much should have just owned it
Like this, I'm going to.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
Ask you directly, would you prefer to be a housewife
of Orange County or a housewife of Beverly Hills.
Speaker 4 (23:19):
Probably neither at the more. But here's I mean.
Speaker 3 (23:27):
I love my life so much here and I am
more of like a homebody. I think for myself personally,
the lifestyle of Beverly Hills in LA and all that
is too much for me. I know, it's great and gland,
grandiose and glamour and all that. I feel like I
have enough of that right here in my little OC bubble.
I mean, I'm a Missouri girl, so maybe that's some
of my farm girl roots coming out in me.
Speaker 4 (23:49):
But I yeah, I'm I'm pretty content here.
Speaker 3 (23:51):
But I can see where ninety nine percent of women
would want to be in that. But it is, it's
a faster pace, it's too much. It's just it's over
the top.
Speaker 5 (24:00):
You know.
Speaker 4 (24:00):
I love like you.
Speaker 3 (24:02):
I mean we see each other at Calthy Hilton's party.
I love being a part of it here and there,
you know. But but to actually live it every day,
I mean it's perfect for Heather.
Speaker 4 (24:10):
She's already living, like she said, she's there, she.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
Lives there, so yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
And I like the fact that she has this viber
who takes her ninety minutes, which with the Heather, I
will give you that, the commitment of a ninety minute
commute from Beverly Hills to OC is nothing to sneeze that, sister.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
So but I will say, your.
Speaker 4 (24:30):
Day so long, it makes it sense so long. I
do it for longer than normal, just for the traffic.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
I couldn't do it.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
I couldn't do it, So I appreciate her commitment to
OC and listen, this is my opinion. I think Heaven
the Bro is a great reality star. I don't see
her on Beverly Hills with those women. I think she's
perfect for OC. I think I think Heather is perfect
for this show. And Heather, I don't want you to leave. Okay,
(24:58):
my sister. Now, I think she's great. Ol see I
believe do Okay.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
So with that being said, Gina was asked.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
If she is using her ARE for her real estate connections.
She said no, she passed that test. Were you surprised
by that, Alexis no, because.
Speaker 4 (25:15):
I don't think Gina was.
Speaker 3 (25:16):
I think that was I was sitting at that lunch
when that came out. That was when we were in
where were we going that time? I think it was
so Noma Orce.
Speaker 4 (25:24):
I don't remember. It was last year when we were filming.
Speaker 3 (25:26):
I was at that lunch and when that got called out,
I was just like, that's so not true.
Speaker 4 (25:30):
I didn't believe it at all for that.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
But but it could be too true. It could be possible,
you know. But I'm glad that Heather also said, I
wouldn't have believed it. Even if you would have failed,
I wouldn't have believed it.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
So that's good.
Speaker 3 (25:42):
I mean, I don't think Gina was using anyone for connections.
And she's doing you know, she's kicking butt on her own.
She's doing a great job.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
Yes, I think Listen, I love Gina so much because
I think Gina is who she is off camera on camp.
I think Gina is just who she is. I also
don't believe she's using Heather for connection. I think Gina
is doing.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
A great job.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
And she also had a speaking engagement last week that
she posted, and she has so much confidence on stage.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
So I think Gina's confidence on.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
Stage in front of a million of people indicates that
she has enough confidence to secure her own deals. Now,
one thing that shocked me and I felt like, unfortunately,
they did not spend enough time on this. Jen was
asked if she was worried about marrying Ryan.
Speaker 4 (26:39):
Oh go go girls react though. The girls were like,
they couldn't believe that she failed that one.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
She failed it and she looks shocked. The girls were gagging.
I was gagging. A let says, were you gagging too?
Speaker 3 (27:01):
I was not because here's why I've heard. I've heard
through the grape vine that it is is pretty like
I don't know. I don't know what's true or not.
So I am giving, he says, she say stuff right now.
But I do live in OC so there's always chatter
in my ear and everyone stops me all the you know,
and I don't know. So I do hear some things,
and I did hear that it is they're they're putting
(27:23):
a pause or or taking a step back from all
of that, and so we'll see, we'll see how it
airs or you know, what comes out. But yeah, so
I wasn't that shocked when she got caught. I think
I think when she said in her confessional, she goes
how she say it, she goes, I don't want to
go back through another divorce like I did before.
Speaker 4 (27:43):
I can see.
Speaker 3 (27:44):
How that would be in the back of your mind
when you're doing a liight detector test. So I can't
understand how she would fail that And still mean, no,
I do want to marry him, but just to have
that because even me, I mean, this is my third marriage,
like like you know, I say too, because my first
one didn't count. I was so young and we were
married for a year, and you know, I never should
have I never should have said yes anyway, however, so
(28:05):
that I feel like I could.
Speaker 4 (28:06):
Have got that in all that's a wash.
Speaker 3 (28:07):
But now it's my second real marriort, like big time marriage,
and I'm I feel scared sometimes too.
Speaker 4 (28:13):
You don't want to go through another divorce.
Speaker 3 (28:15):
So I get where she could fail that because on
the light detector tests. Keep in mind, Carlos, like they said,
it's it's your it's your pulse, your sweat, amount, your heartbreaking,
all these things, so you a lot of emotions can
get into it. That's why I do think that light
detector tests aren't necessarily good, you know.
Speaker 4 (28:30):
I think that a lot of people can fail them
or pass them.
Speaker 3 (28:33):
Yeah, when they're pass them, even when they're not telling
the truth.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
So yeah, no, and listen, I want to go and
right there saying this, there's not enough money in the
world to get me to take a lot of tic
to test. Only because of alex Is, only because of
those reasons, not because I'm trying to hide something. I
think it's because I think nothing is one hundred percent
full truth of error. So if it's listed, I create
(29:03):
my own high blood pressure at times when I'm nervous
about something, do you know what I mean? Like, because
your mind controls that, your your palls, your blood pressure
and all those things. So's a not the fact that
I'm lying the fact that I'm a nervous nelly as
a human being. So everything makes me nervous. My heart's
beating right now, like and I'm comfortable around you. It's
(29:23):
just it's just crazy because I wouldn't have done it.
So I'll give all the growth posts for saying yes to.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
This year, and it's still kind of fun to do it.
Like on marriage boot Camp when I did it, I
was nervous as heck. I was shaking, and I'm like,
I'm not going to pass anything, just because I was.
Speaker 4 (29:36):
When they're putting you in all those words.
Speaker 3 (29:38):
And they talk so seriously, it's all so dead, just
monotone and du and it just makes you feel like,
oh my gosh, I'm in trouble when I didn't do anything.
But let me ask you this about jen see, because
I know some of what I think is about to unfold,
or just from being living here and knowing certain people
that know.
Speaker 4 (29:55):
Her, et cetera.
Speaker 3 (29:57):
I think the viewers were shocked to hear that because
I think things are about to unfold later. I think
I don't know, and I could totally put my foot
in my mouth and be wrong about that, but you know,
I mean, you haven't heard about.
Speaker 4 (30:08):
Him getting married yet.
Speaker 3 (30:09):
So that's one thing, because if they would have got married,
even on the show, we'd still know they're married, and
it was going to be shown on the show, right
So but I think so you were shocked because it's
the first time you've felt there's any kind of a whoa, wait,
you're not excited to just go jump down the aisle
with them? Is that that was what was going through
your mind?
Speaker 2 (30:28):
Huh? One hundred percent.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
Only because I am strictly a viewer of the show
base on what I've been watching. Along with the rain drops,
I see nothing that I'm shown but the fact that
they love each other. Ryan has moved Jen and her
children to his home. Ryan was going through a scandal,
and Jim stood by her. Mam Like Tammy Whynett, do
(30:55):
wiut all of this?
Speaker 2 (30:56):
They are a sexy couple.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
They love to be have naked on a beach and
a gym, and they they have this solidarity that.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
We are together and we are one.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
So the fact that the only indication that there could
be possible trouble in Paradise allegedly.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
Is the fact that she failed.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
And they and I don't want to misquote, but based
on what I saw in my notes, they said you
failed significantly when I asked that question about marrying Ryan,
which now you're saying, listen, in the waters of the OC,
there's rumors that you know, the wedding may not happen
(31:46):
and that it may.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
Allegedly be put on palls.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
So now I'm thinking to myself as this and I
would love to get your thoughts on it. And I'm
hoping that we spend more time on Thissiness season because
the Katie shit.
Speaker 2 (31:59):
I'm over it, but I'm over it.
Speaker 1 (32:04):
I now wonder this one of the things that I
can't guess if.
Speaker 2 (32:10):
If if Jen and Ryan are putting their wedding on Pauls,
it has to be because of money.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
And when I say that, there has to be something
about assets being protected, the things needing to be you know,
done properly, information coming out that maybe they didn't know.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
Those were the things running through my mind.
Speaker 1 (32:35):
Is that something that you're hearing too, or are you
hearing something completely different?
Speaker 4 (32:40):
No, and I'm not really.
Speaker 3 (32:41):
That's the funny thing is the chatter is not really
talking about why. It's just everyone's kind of going hmm.
You know, they were engaged, they were supposed to get married,
you know, a X, Y and Z and the Bahamas
and this, and then there was no.
Speaker 4 (32:52):
Wedding because, like I said, we'd still hear about it.
Speaker 3 (32:54):
Even if even they wouldn't, they wouldn't show anything or
post anything and talk for the show aired, we still
know the married. So yeah, I just think that might
be where it's coming from. But you're absolutely right. I
mean that could both of those things could be true
about what you're saying. It could be the money, or
it could be the assets, or it could be the
you know. I mean the fact that he already moved
the kids in shows you that he's committed and loves
(33:15):
her and wants to. I mean, that's just such a
heroic thing to do. And he does love those He's
very good to her and the kids. So yeah, yeah,
you know, I feel also like I think Gina and
Emily just wanted to get this out. But I feel
like Gina and Emily are such mean girls this season, though,
(33:35):
I feel like what they did and kicking Katie out
and doing all that, I feel like that was mean girl.
Speaker 4 (33:39):
I know I'm jumping a topic right now.
Speaker 3 (33:41):
Sometimes in my heart, I even wanted to text Katie,
but where I'm still kind of so mad at her
for lying about it, but I even wanted to text
her and just be like, girlfriend, that is not cool.
Speaker 4 (33:50):
It was not cool.
Speaker 1 (33:51):
No, no, no, two things can be true. Katie can
be a liar, and I believe she is. However, who
the fuck are you to kick someone out.
Speaker 4 (34:03):
Like that mean and that mean of a way.
Speaker 3 (34:05):
Just simply take her outside or pull her aside and
talk to her like, don't it's so high school mean girl?
Speaker 2 (34:11):
Just you know.
Speaker 3 (34:11):
And I saw the brunch of it last year. They
were both mean girls to me, so I know that
they have that spirit in them, but it really made
me mad the way that they handled Like Katie's not
sitting there taking enough. She just significantly failed the light
detect her test. She's going to be humiliated knowing that
it's going to air, and then and then you still
tell her she should leave. I just it really bothered me.
Speaker 1 (34:30):
Yeah, So now let's talk about it, because again, there's
no rules about.
Speaker 2 (34:34):
You know, how we construct this episode.
Speaker 1 (34:36):
So let's just get right into that too, and I'll
go back to some other stuff I want to talk
about that happen prior to that moment. It discussed me
to see Emily tell Katie to leave. You're not the
boss of anybody?
Speaker 2 (34:49):
Who are you?
Speaker 1 (34:49):
And I like Emily a lot. That was fucked up.
It literally disgusted me seeing that happen.
Speaker 2 (34:57):
Who are you?
Speaker 1 (34:58):
It reminded me, honestly, Uh, if I'm being completely honest,
then I'm always now.
Speaker 2 (35:03):
When having de Bro tell Kelly Dodd to leave? Who
who you like?
Speaker 1 (35:12):
Who the fuck are you to tell somebody who's on
the same show as you, who's holding an orange as you.
Speaker 2 (35:20):
That they need to leave?
Speaker 1 (35:22):
And that's why I will always laugh and love when
Kelly Dodd said to Heather.
Speaker 2 (35:27):
Who are you? You're not my balls?
Speaker 1 (35:29):
I thought that was like, to me, that's funny, And yeah,
Kelly Doll has said some problematic shit, but we're not
I'm not.
Speaker 2 (35:35):
I'm not here to talk about that right now. I'm
going to talk about the correlation. Go ahead, Alexis.
Speaker 4 (35:40):
I just had a thought. Cameron judge, he's one of
my closest friends. Kicked me out of her gym. She goes,
get the fuck down here. I'm sorry, I'm I'm trying
not to cuse. Just bleep that up.
Speaker 3 (35:51):
But anyway, okay, talking like, wait a minute, I feel
like I've been kicked out.
Speaker 4 (35:57):
What was fine?
Speaker 1 (35:58):
Oh yeah, but listen, guess what if Tama's the fifth
you were on her property?
Speaker 4 (36:07):
Well it hold on? Hold on, Emily was where this
is that?
Speaker 3 (36:11):
So Katie was at Eily's property?
Speaker 2 (36:13):
Oh? Hold on?
Speaker 4 (36:16):
And wasn't Kelly at Heather's house?
Speaker 2 (36:19):
Was restaurant? That's the restaurant, okay, the.
Speaker 4 (36:22):
Only one that Hey, that's the only one. We're correct
about that. We got to just erace everything else.
Speaker 2 (36:28):
But yeah, I don't like that.
Speaker 6 (36:30):
And I also said too that I detested when Shannon
told when Shannon yelled at Katie a few episodes all
go so listen.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
I know that when it comes to Katie, listen. I
like Katie.
Speaker 1 (36:46):
Katie's gorgeous, but I listen when it comes to the
people we love. It's also okay to say, in this instance,
I think you're wrong. I think Katie is a liar. Sorry,
I think she is, but that doesn't mean that she
does serves to be yelled at by Shanning, and it
doesn't mean that she deserves to be kicked out in
that way.
Speaker 2 (37:07):
And Jen, I love Jen, I love you.
Speaker 1 (37:10):
Two pieces the fact that, out of anybody on that show,
you're the closest to her, and I think as a
human being, I expected jan to get up and just
go outside and say, Katie, look, although I think what
you did was whatever, I just want.
Speaker 2 (37:32):
To make sure you're okay because I agree to to
to to be to be alone in that moment.
Speaker 1 (37:38):
And again, it's okay to know that she felt something miserably,
but it doesn't mean that this woman deserved to be.
Speaker 2 (37:46):
Yelled at kicked out.
Speaker 1 (37:48):
And the fact that not one person went outside to
say I want to make sure you're okay.
Speaker 4 (37:55):
I agree with you.
Speaker 2 (37:56):
Yeah, yeah, I.
Speaker 1 (37:58):
Want to talk about the fact that two things were
caught in live Tamra saying that she's on the spectrum,
she felt that she was surprised, she felt it.
Speaker 2 (38:09):
They then flashed back to the therapists pretty much confirming
that that was talked about. What did you make of that?
Speaker 1 (38:14):
Because I thought that was luck And I'm like, well,
we kind of saw on camera that that was a conversation,
So how does she fail that?
Speaker 2 (38:21):
And it made me think about the validity of this test.
Speaker 3 (38:23):
Well, that's exactly right, And that's what I'm trying to say,
is that it's like, even though Gretchen passed it all
with flying colors and Katie failed it all miserably, it
shows you right there with Tameras that the test isn't
all accurate all the time, because it shows that Tamra
had that conversation with her therapist.
Speaker 4 (38:41):
So she's not lying about it her thing.
Speaker 3 (38:43):
Maybe she worded it improperly or or claimed it too
much of it like that she is, but her therapist
in her had the conversation on camera that Tamra should
get tested for being on the spectrum, so because her
therapist thinks she is. So yeah, the test isn't always accurate.
I love that they showed that because then it's like,
because then you have one character on the show passing
with flying colors, one character failing it all miserably, and
(39:07):
so and then you have one that they prove that
the test is in accurate.
Speaker 1 (39:13):
So but one thing that I want to make clear,
and this is why I love having my assistant Lizzie
on because Lizzie watched it with us, and Liza's gonna
keep us honest. Lizzy is texting me saying that the
therapist and Lizzie tell me if I got this Rian
as I'm reading your notes, if they're sending me in real.
Speaker 2 (39:33):
Time, I fall loving show. Okay.
Speaker 1 (39:37):
Lizzy is saying to me that the therapist said she
should get tested for being on the spectrum, but not
necessarily saying she was on the spectrum.
Speaker 2 (39:53):
Lizzy is saying to me, no.
Speaker 1 (39:54):
Onah confirmed that a doctor told her she was on
the spectrum, which is why she turned them around and
apologized on social media.
Speaker 2 (40:03):
Okay, so that's the difference.
Speaker 3 (40:05):
Now, now, thank you for keeping us accurate.
Speaker 1 (40:11):
Always listen to Rialna Tevamiking from the actor reporting I
love Love Love love us. Okay, So that was that
one not not so so now we know why she
failed it because to your point, it was the wrong
question being asked.
Speaker 3 (40:24):
Yes, there we go, debait. They should have said do
you think you're on the spectrum? Not has a doctor
said you're on the spectrum?
Speaker 2 (40:30):
Yeah, the doctor said you should get tested for it?
Speaker 4 (40:33):
Right there you go?
Speaker 2 (40:35):
Okay, Heather failed, not the one Heather.
Speaker 1 (40:42):
I like you, Jesus, I'm recapping the show Heather failed
with acts.
Speaker 2 (40:49):
If she called the paparazzi on herself, I know no
in Alexis tell me.
Speaker 3 (40:57):
I guess by your laughing and your reaction and what
I'm looking watching you do right now, you do.
Speaker 4 (41:03):
Believe she called the paparazzis.
Speaker 2 (41:05):
I think this. I think this, I think this, I
think this. I think this. Now. I will say this.
Speaker 1 (41:13):
I don't think a mother would swear on their children
if they're telling I mean, if they're lying.
Speaker 2 (41:19):
I just.
Speaker 1 (41:21):
I don't know a mother in my life who would
lie on their kids for something as minuscule as a paparazzi.
Speaker 2 (41:31):
I think that's silly. So I will say this. I
watched the show. Heather Debro loves her children to pieces.
She's a great mother.
Speaker 1 (41:43):
If she's saying I did not call them and I
swear my kids, I do believe her. So I do
believe her now with that being said. With that being said,
it's all a game of semantics.
Speaker 5 (41:53):
To me, because my my my true crime reporter alexibl
know who should be a producer on Daylight NBC and
day Light NBC, if.
Speaker 1 (42:04):
You're hiring hire lessis Billina to give us a recording? Now,
I believe that somebody in Heather's camp.
Speaker 4 (42:12):
Ah, I was gonna go there.
Speaker 2 (42:13):
I'm semantic. Did it have the pick up the fall
and call Harvey Labin from TMZ. Absolutely not.
Speaker 1 (42:20):
Now the Heavis assistant publishist, manager, real estate agent friend
called the fabarazzi on her and and uh and Terry.
Speaker 2 (42:30):
Absolutely.
Speaker 4 (42:32):
I I was gonna. I was gonna mention that if
you didn't bring it up. I was, because it's in
my mind, I'm.
Speaker 3 (42:37):
Like, she could totally have failed it because yeah, she
didn't specifically pick up the phone, but she knows in
her heart that somebody did that that is connected to her,
you know.
Speaker 4 (42:46):
So yeah, I was yeah, very very good catch there, Carlos.
Speaker 2 (42:51):
We're okay.
Speaker 3 (42:54):
So maybe we both need to go to dateline and
produce that okay, because we are just I'm just so
proud of our skills.
Speaker 2 (43:01):
Damn. I would love it. That's why are recapt our head,
because people just love us.
Speaker 1 (43:05):
And once again, people haven't seen your praise and so
I won't let you know that another week. You've been
in the pressed, girlfriend, So I can't thank you enough
for hopping on this. Okay, wait, I have a look,
I have a Lizzy note, not a legal note, a
Lizzy note.
Speaker 2 (43:20):
So Lizzy said, I just rewatched it for us. The
therapist sent, it's hard to say until you get an assessment.
Speaker 1 (43:29):
So yes, we are right about the fact that she
said you should get tested.
Speaker 2 (43:34):
Okay, now, so ig, what camera would think?
Speaker 3 (43:37):
I can see why Tamper would think that. The therapist
thought that. Then, Okay, it's not like camera's trying to
lie about it. Like, no one's going to go out
there and lie and say that they they're on the
spectrum when they're not. That's why it was in Tamra's
mind obviously from that what the therapist said, thank you, Lizzie.
Speaker 2 (43:49):
Yes, one hundred percent agreed.
Speaker 7 (43:51):
Now, Gretchen, you before I go back to what she said,
Gretchen passed the test with flying collars.
Speaker 2 (44:06):
Gretchen said she never told Katie that she.
Speaker 1 (44:09):
Went to the hospital, got rufeed she and she passed that.
Speaker 2 (44:13):
She passed the fact that I've got the other questions.
Speaker 1 (44:16):
But long story stores she passed every question and they
said you low key passed with flying collars.
Speaker 4 (44:22):
No, they said you passed I think Lizzie will keep
us on this.
Speaker 3 (44:25):
I think that I remember, I think that the lady said,
the woman examiner said, you actually passed the entire test,
So that's why. And my dateline mind went off because
of what I'm like, Okay, well that's kind of scary, actually, like,
that's not that means you can rely really good, because
there's no way you're going to pass every single one
of them.
Speaker 4 (44:45):
I mean unless what.
Speaker 2 (44:50):
Unless you really are a onl Arietta.
Speaker 3 (44:56):
But we know she's We know she's not because we
have the footage of her the back of the car
saying she did go to the hospital, so she lied.
Speaker 4 (45:03):
There, So she's not true, not honest.
Speaker 3 (45:07):
Honest, Harry or you know whatever, Henriette. I mean, maybe
up if she hadn't slipped up and done that in
the back of the car, then maybe we could all
be going, yeah, she must.
Speaker 4 (45:22):
Be really honest.
Speaker 3 (45:23):
Oh my gosh, she's so she lined one episode ago
to everybody, so don't don't don't don't sing her praises
on that just because she can pass the light detector
test with flying colors.
Speaker 1 (45:39):
But Alex says, it just hit me what My producer
brain went off again. The fact that the producers are
showing us flashbacks to come back the failure and the
passing of some of these women. I believe they're low
(46:01):
key telling us without telling us, perhaps this live this
live detector test results is not as accurate as it
should be because to your point, but Tamra thing we
saw Booth, the Gretcha thing.
Speaker 2 (46:19):
We saw that she did tell Tamara and Shannon that
she did go to the hospital.
Speaker 1 (46:25):
She sent the live detective tests, she did not go
to the hospital, and she passed. Maybe the producers are
saying to us, this is our way of not getting
into the weeds of it, but we can only allow
you guys to see the full picture that maybe this
live detective test isn't as accurate as it may appear.
(46:45):
If that's the case, are we now being told that
maybe Katie told the truth and some of these things,
or do you believe that Katie filled significantly because she
lied about every by significantly.
Speaker 3 (47:02):
Well, I can't remember all of her questions now, but
I definitely don't think she's going to fail the entire
test unless it's because remember when she sat down in
the chair, She's just.
Speaker 4 (47:12):
Like, I'm so anxious I'm so anxious. I'm so anxious.
Speaker 3 (47:14):
So maybe she kind of psyites herself out to where
her body was just reacting in every certain.
Speaker 4 (47:19):
Way for all the questions.
Speaker 3 (47:20):
If they said, even if they said, are you know,
are you forty two? And she has forty two, I
don't know what her age is, but I'm just saying, you.
Speaker 4 (47:26):
Know, I asked her question like that that really is
she is honestly saying.
Speaker 3 (47:30):
I think she might have still even failed it because
I think she was so just so worked up. But
by the way, Carlos, I think the producers also are
are setting us up for a couple episodes coming up
that they're going that they're they're going to keep using
this light detector test and show that there are more
lies that are still being told. I believe that we're
still going to see more lies.
Speaker 4 (47:51):
I don't know why.
Speaker 3 (47:52):
I think that they the light detector test was just
one way of like saying that they're not legit, but
also to add some fun and some you know, it
was kind of interesting to watch it, right, But I
believe that we're still going to see more lies coming out.
Speaker 2 (48:05):
I did too. I do too.
Speaker 3 (48:06):
Flash back back to the light detector test too, so
it was just interesting.
Speaker 4 (48:10):
I'm glad they did it.
Speaker 3 (48:11):
I know America is not loving it and thinks it
was really bad, bad, but I I love it.
Speaker 4 (48:16):
I think it was I think it was fun.
Speaker 1 (48:18):
Look, this was the best episode of the season, and
all the episodes to me have been great, So I
think at the end of the day, I can predict
that this episode will probably be the highest rated of
the season so far. Because of what you said, Alexit,
It's one of those things that I had an emotional
reaction watching it, and it's because I've never seen anything
(48:41):
like this on a housewives show, where everybody is called
to the carpet and being forced honestly, you know, with
the machine strapped to you to be honest. And look,
if Katie is a liar, this is what I will.
Speaker 2 (48:57):
I mean, I do think she is one, but I
want to.
Speaker 1 (48:59):
Go on record saying I don't think Katie is the
own liar, right, and I don't think. I don't think
Katie's lies is bigger than other housewives who have lied
that are still on the show.
Speaker 3 (49:15):
Agree That's how I feel, And I don't think Katie's.
Speaker 4 (49:18):
A liar about everything either. I want to clear that.
Speaker 3 (49:20):
I don't think she lies about every single thing. I
think she's just she's just got caught in so many
that you know that that now it's hard to believe
any of what she says. But I don't think she's
she I don't think she failed that test all the
way and lied about every single one of them.
Speaker 4 (49:33):
I don't think.
Speaker 2 (49:34):
So. Yeah, and I'm also.
Speaker 3 (49:37):
Over I'm also over the Katie stuff. Like I'm ready
for the show to move. It's like, it's like, put
that to rest and let's move the show forward. So
I'm hoping, you know, like next episode it's going to
be to be continued because we saw Katie, you know,
leave and is so upset, and it's like, okay, can
we just now can we take the point of moving
over this and go on to fast forward the show
(49:58):
in another direction?
Speaker 2 (50:00):
I I drew with you.
Speaker 1 (50:02):
So it looks like Katie may have been sirt her
walking papers. Katie did an interview recently where she said
that she was not invited to I believe the cast
trip she asks to go.
Speaker 2 (50:13):
That's allegedly what happened. Who knows.
Speaker 1 (50:16):
But my last question for you, alexis is this based
on what you've seen. Do you think Gretchen is being
set up by the producers to come back to the
show next season as a full time housewife.
Speaker 4 (50:32):
I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (50:35):
I mean, I think there's just so many more episodes
to see. And there was one on the trailer where
she's really really oh on the cast trip, it looked
like that she was screaming into the van. Make it
make sense. So I don't know, I don't know. I
think there's a lot to buy, a lot that we're going.
Speaker 4 (50:52):
To get to see.
Speaker 2 (50:53):
Yeah, would you want her to.
Speaker 4 (50:55):
Come back full time? What is your take on that?
Speaker 1 (50:58):
Look, I'm a big Regipan, and I think Gretchen and
Tama to me, reminds me a lot of Portia Kenya.
Reminds me a lot of just like when you have
two women who are very strong and opinionated have a conflict.
Speaker 2 (51:13):
I think they're both great at it.
Speaker 1 (51:14):
So looks as of now, I would love to see
Gretchen back full time. I want to see Alexis Belino
back full time. You know, I would like to see
Shannaby a friend up to the show in my opinion,
And look, I think the rest of the cast should
stay and I think Katie just isn't built for reality television.
Speaker 2 (51:35):
I think Katie.
Speaker 1 (51:37):
I think Katie should just go back to like what
she was doing before the show and live a very
peaceful life with her amazing husband.
Speaker 2 (51:45):
I think Matt is a great guy. So that's that's
what Carlos Kimbral likes to see.
Speaker 3 (51:50):
Okay, well you heard it here, and so we will
see if your prediction is right. We can we can
flash back to this in a year.
Speaker 4 (51:58):
Or two say you're wrong, Yes we can't.
Speaker 2 (52:03):
Electavely no.
Speaker 1 (52:04):
Thank you so much, my sister for another great episode,
and I'll see you next week.
Speaker 2 (52:09):
Bye, doll.
Speaker 1 (52:13):
Reality with the King is executive produced by me Carlos King,
produced by Lizzie Nimitz, and a partnership.
Speaker 2 (52:22):
With The Lack Effect Network.
Speaker 1 (52:24):
You can also find us on my YouTube channel at
the Carlos King Underscore
Reality with the King is hosted by me, Carlos King.
I'm an executive producer who have produced some of your
favorite shows from the Real Housewives in Atlanta, New Jersey
and my own creation, The Love and Marriage Franchise and
Bell Collective. Every episode, we recap reality television from the
Real Housewives Franchise to The Bachelor or Selling Sunset, in
(00:27):
addition to celebrity guests, whether in the unscripted space or
scripted as well. Hey, rain Jobson Dave's episode of Reality
with the King.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
This episode of the Real Housewives of Orange County gave
me all the fields, good, bad, and different. I'm confused,
I'm lost.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
I'm dazed, but I'm not naked, and I'm here with
my girl, Alexis Ballino.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
Hello, how are you gorgeous? I'm good.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
I think this is the first time I've ever podcasted
with you when you didn't have glasses on.
Speaker 4 (01:09):
Jackson, you know.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
You know what's my buddy.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
I wanted to make sure that you and the ray
jobs who are watching this on YouTube get to see
my eyes because.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
These are the I don't have a live detective.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Test, hey, Emily, but what I do have are my
eyes to tell you my truth serum perfect.
Speaker 4 (01:32):
Okay, now I know what.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Oh so let's just get right into this crazy ass episode.
I mean, Alexis. We have to talk about the scene
that pretty much popened up the episode, which is the
eighth housewife who finally made her debut on the Real
(01:58):
house Watch Sports County after being mentioned in every single
episode since episode one. Gretchen and Gina sent her down
and immediately they.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
Talked to her about what Katie has alleged since the
start of the season, which is the fact that.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
Katie allegedly told Keiki Monique thinks about Gretchen things that
we found out on this episode about Gina that we
have to get into. But first that Gretchen did tell
Keiki Monique that after naked Wasted seventeen eighteen years ago,
that she went to the hospital and Kikimo Nique said,
(02:40):
that's exactly what she was told. Are you surprised that
Katie has been found out to be a liar once
again and again and again and again.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
Well no, because I mean, obviously I didn't realize the
extent of her life until I was light about myself
and she's still carrying that story on.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
But does she Alexis is, so after you debunked it
on this show, has she made a statement.
Speaker 4 (03:12):
On this on this episode?
Speaker 5 (03:13):
She did.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
She took the light of test on this episode about
it and said, you know, the person the examiner asked,
did you share your memo with Alexis?
Speaker 4 (03:24):
And maybe she said no because she didn't send it
to me.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
Maybe that's how she got out, or no, she did
lie about it. It was found to be a lie. Actually,
But I mean, I'm wondering Katie's mind if she thinks
it's because she didn't send it to me, but she
did share it with me at the restaurant, So I
don't know either way we.
Speaker 4 (03:39):
Got anyway we talk about it. It's like Katie keeps.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
Getting caught, and I just wonder if she, after she
watches all these episodes, if she just finally goes, Okay,
I need to do something about this, you know, episode
eight now, and she's still sticking to it and still
you know, I do think that the one lie that
I don't think is a lie is I do think
(04:03):
Gretchen told her at dinner that night. I do think
Gretchen had a story and told Slade and with Ryan
Jen and Slade and.
Speaker 4 (04:15):
Slade and Matt.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
Yeah that Katie. That did tell Katie that she was
really sick and.
Speaker 4 (04:22):
Thought she got roofed. I do think that happened. What
do you think?
Speaker 1 (04:26):
So you okay, so rain jobs. You know how we
recap episodes. We're not going to go see by thing
because who gives a ship. Let's just have an overall conversation.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
About this episode.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
Right last week, you and I converse and I said, look,
I love Gretchen my gut and base from what I'm watching,
I do believe Gretchen told Katie this information.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
I said that last week.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
I even said two weeks before that, remember Alexis when
ca Aady rushed in the room giving you oscar worthy performance,
right that, I believe that Slade called Matt and Si
let's get our story together. And that's why Katie pretended
when she walked into the hotel room, welcome by Jen
and Gretchen. Oh my gosh, So what happened as if
(05:19):
she was here for the first time, only to find
out that yet they had a conversation on camera. So
I saw that to say, as I'm watching the beginning
of the episode, I'm like, okay, Kekim on Nika saying
Katie did tell me this, and I'm like, I still
believe Gretchen told Katie this, But then the line Detective
Tess happened, and if interestings, I'm gonna be very honest,
(05:43):
and I love all the girls, but I gotta be
honest everybody who's calling a lie.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
I was not surprised. So with that being said, when
Gretchen passed the like.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
Colors, I'm like, now I'm really confused, because I believe
everyone who got caught to lie fled a little bit.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
So the fact that Gretchen path of blind colors, I'm like, alexis,
what do you do?
Speaker 4 (06:10):
What do?
Speaker 2 (06:10):
What do we make of this? I'm confused here.
Speaker 4 (06:13):
There's two things to this. First, First of all, I'm
a Dateline kind of sewer.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
Okay, like I don't want it now because I don't
have time, but especially over COVID, Oh honey, I went
through every single one of those, probably four times each.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (06:27):
Anyway, there is a known.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
Fact on Dateline, and I'm not a detective, but they
do say that a sociopath is the only person that
can pass with flying colors of any of any light
detector test. Okay, because even the most honest person still
flubs up and their heart races the little or whatever.
Speaker 4 (06:44):
Only those of your paths. So take that information with
what you want, and thank you Dateline for you know,
informing us and educating.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
The second part is the lie detector. People ask the
wrong question. They should have asked, Gretchen, did you lie
follow me?
Speaker 2 (06:58):
Okay?
Speaker 3 (06:58):
Did you lie in the back of the car about
going to the hospital when you.
Speaker 4 (07:03):
Were with Shannon and Tamra.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
That's what they should have asked her, because then she
would have caught caught lying because she lied in the
back of the car. But she would have said no
or something that she would have been caught in a lie,
or she could have said even if she said yes,
did she still get caught gets caught as the liar
because you lied in the back of the car. So
in the other part, why didn't Gretchen or why didn't
Tamra or Shannon call Gretchen out at that moment, because
(07:28):
here's the deal, they were sitting there when Gretchen said,
in the back of the car, I did go.
Speaker 4 (07:32):
I felt really I was really sick.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
Why wouldn't they have just said, right in front of everybody,
with the light detector woman there too. Well, we heard
you say it in the back of the car, so
you were lying then, you know, so the other way.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
I'm just confused by that.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
So I want to say this, I agree with you.
I thought the same thing. And then I thought one thing.
I know producing these shows, reality shows and alexas, I
would love to get your POV.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
Because you're very honest. You've always been honest.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
I thought, at that moment, if they remembered that conversation
the back of the car, because obviously you shoot so
many scenes that I did. I did wanted to, like,
I wonder if they remember, because my thing is this,
let's let's call it spade a fade. Shannon and camera
are not there to protect wretching. So I believe my
(08:25):
gut is telling me that the reason why they didn't
bring it up is because at that time, with everything
going on, they probably didn't remember. Because let's be clear,
and this is me talking as a producer, they had
to flash back to it to remind us because listen,
maybe it's just me, but elected maybe you remember. I
(08:45):
forgot she said that in the backseat of the car.
Until they flashed back to it.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
I didn't because it was I remembered that she was
lying about She kept lying about it by saying I
didn't say I did, I didn't do any but then
it was so it was such an impactful moment. But
also maybe Tam and Shannon didn't remember that happening either
until you know, then they filmed that scene with the
light detector test, and then all of this is aired
and then they're like, oh, she did lie to us,
(09:09):
because especially after you've had a cocktailer two and you're
filming and you're exhausted in the back of the car
when y all are headed home, you don't remember every
single little thing. And it probably wasn't like some some
you know, major thing that Shannon and tamor were like, ooh,
that's a good moment we got we caught her because
they didn't really know how the whole season was going
to unfold. So maybe you're right about that when you
put on the producer's hat, maybe you're right about that.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
Yes, Because what I want the audience to understand is this,
when you watch their confessionals, those are taped weeks and
months after it airs, and oftentimes rain drops when you
watch the confessionals is because the producers already edited the
episode and they're asking questions based on the scenes that
(09:53):
made it. These housewives and reality stars film a ton
of scenes and sometimes you don't see them, so so
when the producer decide all this scene would make it.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Oh, well, we actually found a moment where she did
say it.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
Then they asked the housewife, for example, Tam or Sanat,
don't you remember when Gretchen said this to you?
Speaker 2 (10:14):
They're like, oh, oh my god, she did, let's talk
about it.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
So I do believe that's what happened based on my
knowledge being a producer. But you are right in the
sense of look the lie detective test. Folks did not
ask the right question because I never thought about it
that way, which is why I was confused, because on
(10:38):
one hand, I'm like, I believe Gretchen told Katie this,
but it leads me to this. I love me some Jen.
I think Jen is a good girl. I think she's great,
I think she's funny. Is Jen capable of choosing Gretchen's
(10:59):
side over Katie because she wants to be friends with
Gretchen and does she think aligning with Gretchen protects her
position on the show?
Speaker 2 (11:11):
What did you make of it?
Speaker 1 (11:12):
Because if we're saying that Gretchen did say it, why
is Jen also lying for Gretchen when she met Katie
before Gretchen.
Speaker 4 (11:22):
That's a really good question.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
But I'll tell you what this show does do to
most of the women that film these shows is you
do get kind of caught up in it and forming
the proper alliance and am I making the right decision?
And the conversations you have off camera with some of
these women can sway you and can have you jump
ship or go to it in a different direction, or
(11:44):
even just you know, maybe Jen's actually believing some more of.
Speaker 4 (11:47):
What I mean. Here's the deal.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
We all know, get Gretchen and Katie are both liars.
We know it, even though forget the light detector test,
it's clear as day when you watch the footage they're
both liars. So I think Jen might be like, Okay,
you know, I love them both, because you do still
love them even when you're you know, filming with them,
and it's like, you don't wish ill on any of
these women.
Speaker 4 (12:07):
We're trying to do a job.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
But I think that Jin is probably getting a lot
of you know, noise from Gretchen and behind the scenes
and probably has now noticed some of the lies Katie
said to be pretty evident and true. So maybe she's
just kind of confused and like, I don't really know
what I'm doing. But Gretchen's kind of new now and
doesn't have as much of a track record as lying
(12:30):
as Katie has. Katie's lied now for two straight seasons,
so maybe that's where Jin's thinking.
Speaker 4 (12:34):
I don't know. But my thing is, when I have
a friend, I'm so loyal that.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
Like I wouldn't even be able to I wouldn't be
able to sit there and cover for someone even if
they're lying. I don't care how loyal I am are.
It's like the truth comes over loyalty, Yeah, because it
always gets found out in the long run. And just wait, Carlos,
I told you this was going to be good, and
I told you I didn't think at the end of
Kiki Monique was three episodes ago. I'm like, this Kiki
Moniq thing's going to go somewhere, and now she probably
(13:00):
did sign to be the eighth housewife.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
You know, this is reality with the King, and I'm
Carlos King.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
Let's get back into the show. I would love it
for Kikibo Be. I like Kikibo Bee.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
You did call it from day one, and you even
called the last week.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
But I'm like, this long detective test shit is so cliche.
But you said it would be entertaining and looking forward
to it, and I must admit it was entertaining.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
So getting back to kikim Monique, she also pointed at
Gina and said, Katie also told me you made a
comment about Asian designers, and from what she told me,
it made.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
It seem like you're being racist.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
In that moment, I was like, that is so specific
that there's no way in hell ki kim Monique made
that up.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
If you want to question the validity of the naked
waisted because we as viewers saw that shit seventeen years ago. Hey,
I can understand it, right.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
That is so specific, to the point that once again
rain Drops listened up to a producer. That's why the
editors had to flash not even flashback could have never
seen it. Had to scrub the footage and find the
moment of Gina making that comment. I have to watch
that moment a couple of times because I wanted to
(14:23):
make sure that I was reacting to it, not just
in the moment, but having it sit with me based
on what Gina asked, I as a black person, right,
And when I say that, I'm not Katie, So I'm
not saying that my me being a black person personal
(14:43):
color over ri saw Katie fell.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
So I'm not saying that.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
What I'm saying is I, as a black person a
personal color, heard what Gina said. I didn't take that
as Gina being racist. I took that as Gina stating that, look,
you told me you were wearing Asian designers Bowse on
Beverley Hills Housewives said, And I think she succeeded in
(15:09):
this based on my knowledge that she was going to
wear African American African American designers throughout the entire.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
Season of Beverly Hills. So I know that that's a.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
Thing based on that. I don't think Gina said that
to be racist. I think I think Gina said that
because she was asking about it.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
And then when Katie was called.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
Doing the live protective test aftermath, not the questions, but
the aftermath, she said, well, it hurt my feelings. And
guess what, I can understand that, but say that, and
why is that something? Why is that something you tell
radio hosts and not something you would say to Gina
(15:56):
like hey, I didn't like that, or tell a producer
this is how I felt.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
Let's talk about it. That's why Katie's losing me.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
But what did you think about that whole thing too,
with what Katie said kicking money?
Speaker 3 (16:07):
Well, well, first of all, yeah, it's like it's like,
here's the thing, why is why is Katie saying so
much juicy stuff? It's like, is she does she think
that these bloggers are going to be her best friends
or any of these journalists are going to become her
best friends because she's got gossip. It really backfired on her.
I think that's what she intended and was hoping for,
but it backfired on her. And I think she got
caught up in the whole you know, media of everything
(16:29):
and a little bit of the fame and all of that.
Speaker 4 (16:31):
I think she got caught up in that. But here's
the thing.
Speaker 3 (16:35):
If you say I'm wearing an American designer, I'm wearing
an African designer, I'm wearing an Asian designer.
Speaker 4 (16:41):
I don't believe that's racist at all.
Speaker 3 (16:43):
It's like, Okay, I would be proud that I'm wearing
an African designer, I would be proud about, you know
what it is and and mention it. It's not racist
to say that in my opinion, so I agree with
you on that. But I think Katie is looking for
anything right now to get some sympathy from the girls
or just to you know, just to kind of relate
to the girls some and be like, look, you guys
can hurt.
Speaker 4 (17:02):
My feelings too. You know. I know I've hurt your
OL's feelings and you don't let you.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
Don't trust me with the bloggers and all this, but
that did hurt my feelings, and I think that backfired
on her because I think I don't know.
Speaker 4 (17:11):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
I haven't read any of the comments on social media
or anything now, but I wonder what is being said
out there, like is everyone agreeing with us on that
or do they feel like girl listen?
Speaker 1 (17:24):
And I don't care too either, because at the end
of the day, Katie can do no wrong in the
eyes of people social media, and that's why I don't
give a shit about what they say.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
Listen. I don't know. I didn't look at it, but
I don't give a shit anyway.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
Because a lot of people, which is it's fine, have
your favorites.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
I don't give a shit. There's a strong group of
people on.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
Twitter who love Katie and believe Katie until the end
of time.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
And that's okay. I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
That's why I had to say how I felt in
the moment and why I watched that moment a couple
of times. I wanted to hear Gina again. I wanted
to understand it. I did not get that from it.
But what I will say once again, I do believe
that perhaps Katie in the moment may have had her
feelings hurt, felt that way whatever. Okay, However, I'm saying
(18:20):
I didn't see it that way as a person who
watched the show too. And on top of that, one
thing I will say is this, I have a hit podcast.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
Thank you Alexa for joining it.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
But I say that to say I even get people
dming me stop. They don't say to me, so hear
me out Alexi's gagag. I had Theology stars send me stuff.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
Do they say, oh, you.
Speaker 4 (18:50):
Can't stop there. You got to give us give us
some feedback here?
Speaker 2 (18:53):
No?
Speaker 1 (18:53):
No, yeah, I'm not gonna say no. But you know
I'm saying, I'm saying it happens.
Speaker 3 (18:59):
So for example, like what my mind going everywhere? I
have no idea what Just give me a generic one
of the.
Speaker 4 (19:05):
Generics and don't tell who it is.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
Okay, I had somebody, Okay.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
The last one I receee was from a reality star
who sent me a post that was in her favor
based on someone talking badly about her arch nemesis and
(19:29):
whether or not she felt that this validated her.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
Now, she did not say talk about it. She did not.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
Say, please talk about on your podcast.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
But she sent it to me and I looked at
it and I just that was in it.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
My point is, I know she said that to me
for me to talk about it, and I didn't, right,
I didn't because I like to cite my source there
that's on my podcast.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
I never say, well I was told.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
By Birdie no, because I think I think it gets
in the weeds of just like mess. And my point
is saying all of this is I one hundred and
fifty percent believe that Katie met with keikim O Nique
and told her these things so that she could talk
about it.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
No one could tell me differently.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
And the reason why Nobah could tell me differently, is
because they do it to me. I have enough sense
not to say the shit because I'm not a dummy,
and I know when I'm being set up.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
Well, good point, And I think that's smart of you,
because he says, she say is half the time fifty
percent of the time not true anyway, Sometimes it's true,
but it's not all the time true, and it's it's
like the game of telephone and rumors and all of that.
So you get into that water, which I think you're
smart because you are credible. You do stick to sources
that you can go back and show the evidence or
(20:57):
have the backup for it.
Speaker 4 (20:59):
So but I agree with you, I think Katie one
hundred percent.
Speaker 3 (21:01):
Well, first of all, I think, like I said, she
got caught up in a little bit like, oh my gosh,
these people actually want to talk to me because I
have a little bit of fame now and they're actually
interested in what I have to say, and so she
wanted to have some juice or some gossip for her.
But I also, I think you're right. I never thought
about it that way, but I think you're right. She
probably was hoping it would get brought up and unfortunately
because some of it was lies and not true.
Speaker 4 (21:23):
It backfired on Katie.
Speaker 3 (21:25):
Like I said earlier, you know, it's it didn't work
in her favor at all.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
Well yeah, no at all.
Speaker 3 (21:29):
Twitter likes it, but you know, and it is not
a believing that Katie was lying and all of that.
Speaker 4 (21:34):
But we'll just have to see. I mean there's more.
There's a lot more show to be shown.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
Yeah, that's a lot more to be shown. So okay,
so one of the let me tell your tothing. First
of all, I don't know if the producer was that
Emily who rubbed the questions for the Lie Detective Test
people to ask these women. I want to say this,
My favorite moment of the Life Detective Test was the
(22:01):
fact that they asked heathern de bro if she wants
to be a real housewalk for Belly Hills. I thought
that shit was so funny. Alexis like, who came up
with that? The fact that she Heather, I know you
think I hate you. I don't hate anybody. I'm just
I just don't kiss your ass, but I love you.
I think you're a great house life, but I'm not
(22:22):
kissing your ass like the others do. One thing I
will say, though, is a blind man can see that
heathern de Bro wants to be on.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
The real housebo to Billy Hills.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
Guess one, alexis I if I had a choice of
all the housewives, I would be on Beverley Hill all
it because I like the lifestyle.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
I like the accent. I would love to go to
a Kathy Hills a Christmas party.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
I actually loved that lifestyle, that is Heaven's lifestyle. But
the fact that she was like I only said yes
because of the distance.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
Heather.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
That's why I can't stand you the way I want to,
because I wish you would have saient if all of
us had a fucking choice in this room, we all
would choose that show.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
Get out of right much should have just owned it
Like this, I'm going to.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
Ask you directly, would you prefer to be a housewife
of Orange County or a housewife of Beverly Hills.
Speaker 4 (23:19):
Probably neither at the more. But here's I mean.
Speaker 3 (23:27):
I love my life so much here and I am
more of like a homebody. I think for myself personally,
the lifestyle of Beverly Hills in LA and all that
is too much for me. I know, it's great and gland,
grandiose and glamour and all that. I feel like I
have enough of that right here in my little OC bubble.
I mean, I'm a Missouri girl, so maybe that's some
of my farm girl roots coming out in me.
Speaker 4 (23:49):
But I yeah, I'm I'm pretty content here.
Speaker 3 (23:51):
But I can see where ninety nine percent of women
would want to be in that. But it is, it's
a faster pace, it's too much. It's just it's over
the top.
Speaker 5 (24:00):
You know.
Speaker 4 (24:00):
I love like you.
Speaker 3 (24:02):
I mean we see each other at Calthy Hilton's party.
I love being a part of it here and there,
you know. But but to actually live it every day,
I mean it's perfect for Heather.
Speaker 4 (24:10):
She's already living, like she said, she's there, she.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
Lives there, so yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
And I like the fact that she has this viber
who takes her ninety minutes, which with the Heather, I
will give you that, the commitment of a ninety minute
commute from Beverly Hills to OC is nothing to sneeze that, sister.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
So but I will say, your.
Speaker 4 (24:30):
Day so long, it makes it sense so long. I
do it for longer than normal, just for the traffic.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
I couldn't do it.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
I couldn't do it, So I appreciate her commitment to
OC and listen, this is my opinion. I think Heaven
the Bro is a great reality star. I don't see
her on Beverly Hills with those women. I think she's
perfect for OC. I think I think Heather is perfect
for this show. And Heather, I don't want you to leave. Okay,
(24:58):
my sister. Now, I think she's great. Ol see I
believe do Okay.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
So with that being said, Gina was asked.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
If she is using her ARE for her real estate connections.
She said no, she passed that test. Were you surprised
by that, Alexis no, because.
Speaker 4 (25:15):
I don't think Gina was.
Speaker 3 (25:16):
I think that was I was sitting at that lunch
when that came out. That was when we were in
where were we going that time? I think it was
so Noma Orce.
Speaker 4 (25:24):
I don't remember. It was last year when we were filming.
Speaker 3 (25:26):
I was at that lunch and when that got called out,
I was just like, that's so not true.
Speaker 4 (25:30):
I didn't believe it at all for that.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
But but it could be too true. It could be possible,
you know. But I'm glad that Heather also said, I
wouldn't have believed it. Even if you would have failed,
I wouldn't have believed it.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
So that's good.
Speaker 3 (25:42):
I mean, I don't think Gina was using anyone for connections.
And she's doing you know, she's kicking butt on her own.
She's doing a great job.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
Yes, I think Listen, I love Gina so much because
I think Gina is who she is off camera on camp.
I think Gina is just who she is. I also
don't believe she's using Heather for connection. I think Gina
is doing.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
A great job.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
And she also had a speaking engagement last week that
she posted, and she has so much confidence on stage.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
So I think Gina's confidence on.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
Stage in front of a million of people indicates that
she has enough confidence to secure her own deals. Now,
one thing that shocked me and I felt like, unfortunately,
they did not spend enough time on this. Jen was
asked if she was worried about marrying Ryan.
Speaker 4 (26:39):
Oh go go girls react though. The girls were like,
they couldn't believe that she failed that one.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
She failed it and she looks shocked. The girls were gagging.
I was gagging. A let says, were you gagging too?
Speaker 3 (27:01):
I was not because here's why I've heard. I've heard
through the grape vine that it is is pretty like
I don't know. I don't know what's true or not.
So I am giving, he says, she say stuff right now.
But I do live in OC so there's always chatter
in my ear and everyone stops me all the you know,
and I don't know. So I do hear some things,
and I did hear that it is they're they're putting
(27:23):
a pause or or taking a step back from all
of that, and so we'll see, we'll see how it
airs or you know, what comes out. But yeah, so
I wasn't that shocked when she got caught. I think
I think when she said in her confessional, she goes
how she say it, she goes, I don't want to
go back through another divorce like I did before.
Speaker 4 (27:43):
I can see.
Speaker 3 (27:44):
How that would be in the back of your mind
when you're doing a liight detector test. So I can't
understand how she would fail that And still mean, no,
I do want to marry him, but just to have
that because even me, I mean, this is my third marriage,
like like you know, I say too, because my first
one didn't count. I was so young and we were
married for a year, and you know, I never should
have I never should have said yes anyway, however, so
(28:05):
that I feel like I could.
Speaker 4 (28:06):
Have got that in all that's a wash.
Speaker 3 (28:07):
But now it's my second real marriort, like big time marriage,
and I'm I feel scared sometimes too.
Speaker 4 (28:13):
You don't want to go through another divorce.
Speaker 3 (28:15):
So I get where she could fail that because on
the light detector tests. Keep in mind, Carlos, like they said,
it's it's your it's your pulse, your sweat, amount, your heartbreaking,
all these things, so you a lot of emotions can
get into it. That's why I do think that light
detector tests aren't necessarily good, you know.
Speaker 4 (28:30):
I think that a lot of people can fail them
or pass them.
Speaker 3 (28:33):
Yeah, when they're pass them, even when they're not telling
the truth.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
So yeah, no, and listen, I want to go and
right there saying this, there's not enough money in the
world to get me to take a lot of tic
to test. Only because of alex Is, only because of
those reasons, not because I'm trying to hide something. I
think it's because I think nothing is one hundred percent
full truth of error. So if it's listed, I create
(29:03):
my own high blood pressure at times when I'm nervous
about something, do you know what I mean? Like, because
your mind controls that, your your palls, your blood pressure
and all those things. So's a not the fact that
I'm lying the fact that I'm a nervous nelly as
a human being. So everything makes me nervous. My heart's
beating right now, like and I'm comfortable around you. It's
(29:23):
just it's just crazy because I wouldn't have done it.
So I'll give all the growth posts for saying yes to.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
This year, and it's still kind of fun to do it.
Like on marriage boot Camp when I did it, I
was nervous as heck. I was shaking, and I'm like,
I'm not going to pass anything, just because I was.
Speaker 4 (29:36):
When they're putting you in all those words.
Speaker 3 (29:38):
And they talk so seriously, it's all so dead, just
monotone and du and it just makes you feel like,
oh my gosh, I'm in trouble when I didn't do anything.
But let me ask you this about jen see, because
I know some of what I think is about to unfold,
or just from being living here and knowing certain people
that know.
Speaker 4 (29:55):
Her, et cetera.
Speaker 3 (29:57):
I think the viewers were shocked to hear that because
I think things are about to unfold later. I think
I don't know, and I could totally put my foot
in my mouth and be wrong about that, but you know,
I mean, you haven't heard about.
Speaker 4 (30:08):
Him getting married yet.
Speaker 3 (30:09):
So that's one thing, because if they would have got married,
even on the show, we'd still know they're married, and
it was going to be shown on the show, right
So but I think so you were shocked because it's
the first time you've felt there's any kind of a whoa, wait,
you're not excited to just go jump down the aisle
with them? Is that that was what was going through
your mind?
Speaker 2 (30:28):
Huh? One hundred percent.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
Only because I am strictly a viewer of the show
base on what I've been watching. Along with the rain drops,
I see nothing that I'm shown but the fact that
they love each other. Ryan has moved Jen and her
children to his home. Ryan was going through a scandal,
and Jim stood by her. Mam Like Tammy Whynett, do
(30:55):
wiut all of this?
Speaker 2 (30:56):
They are a sexy couple.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
They love to be have naked on a beach and
a gym, and they they have this solidarity that.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
We are together and we are one.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
So the fact that the only indication that there could
be possible trouble in Paradise allegedly.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
Is the fact that she failed.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
And they and I don't want to misquote, but based
on what I saw in my notes, they said you
failed significantly when I asked that question about marrying Ryan,
which now you're saying, listen, in the waters of the OC,
there's rumors that you know, the wedding may not happen
(31:46):
and that it may.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
Allegedly be put on palls.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
So now I'm thinking to myself as this and I
would love to get your thoughts on it. And I'm
hoping that we spend more time on Thissiness season because
the Katie shit.
Speaker 2 (31:59):
I'm over it, but I'm over it.
Speaker 1 (32:04):
I now wonder this one of the things that I
can't guess if.
Speaker 2 (32:10):
If if Jen and Ryan are putting their wedding on Pauls,
it has to be because of money.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
And when I say that, there has to be something
about assets being protected, the things needing to be you know,
done properly, information coming out that maybe they didn't know.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
Those were the things running through my mind.
Speaker 1 (32:35):
Is that something that you're hearing too, or are you
hearing something completely different?
Speaker 4 (32:40):
No, and I'm not really.
Speaker 3 (32:41):
That's the funny thing is the chatter is not really
talking about why. It's just everyone's kind of going hmm.
You know, they were engaged, they were supposed to get married,
you know, a X, Y and Z and the Bahamas
and this, and then there was no.
Speaker 4 (32:52):
Wedding because, like I said, we'd still hear about it.
Speaker 3 (32:54):
Even if even they wouldn't, they wouldn't show anything or
post anything and talk for the show aired, we still
know the married. So yeah, I just think that might
be where it's coming from. But you're absolutely right. I
mean that could both of those things could be true
about what you're saying. It could be the money, or
it could be the assets, or it could be the
you know. I mean the fact that he already moved
the kids in shows you that he's committed and loves
(33:15):
her and wants to. I mean, that's just such a
heroic thing to do. And he does love those He's
very good to her and the kids. So yeah, yeah,
you know, I feel also like I think Gina and
Emily just wanted to get this out. But I feel
like Gina and Emily are such mean girls this season, though,
(33:35):
I feel like what they did and kicking Katie out
and doing all that, I feel like that was mean girl.
Speaker 4 (33:39):
I know I'm jumping a topic right now.
Speaker 3 (33:41):
Sometimes in my heart, I even wanted to text Katie,
but where I'm still kind of so mad at her
for lying about it, but I even wanted to text
her and just be like, girlfriend, that is not cool.
Speaker 4 (33:50):
It was not cool.
Speaker 1 (33:51):
No, no, no, two things can be true. Katie can
be a liar, and I believe she is. However, who
the fuck are you to kick someone out.
Speaker 4 (34:03):
Like that mean and that mean of a way.
Speaker 3 (34:05):
Just simply take her outside or pull her aside and
talk to her like, don't it's so high school mean girl?
Speaker 2 (34:11):
Just you know.
Speaker 3 (34:11):
And I saw the brunch of it last year. They
were both mean girls to me, so I know that
they have that spirit in them, but it really made
me mad the way that they handled Like Katie's not
sitting there taking enough. She just significantly failed the light
detect her test. She's going to be humiliated knowing that
it's going to air, and then and then you still
tell her she should leave. I just it really bothered me.
Speaker 1 (34:30):
Yeah, So now let's talk about it, because again, there's
no rules about.
Speaker 2 (34:34):
You know, how we construct this episode.
Speaker 1 (34:36):
So let's just get right into that too, and I'll
go back to some other stuff I want to talk
about that happen prior to that moment. It discussed me
to see Emily tell Katie to leave. You're not the
boss of anybody?
Speaker 2 (34:49):
Who are you?
Speaker 1 (34:49):
And I like Emily a lot. That was fucked up.
It literally disgusted me seeing that happen.
Speaker 2 (34:57):
Who are you?
Speaker 1 (34:58):
It reminded me, honestly, Uh, if I'm being completely honest,
then I'm always now.
Speaker 2 (35:03):
When having de Bro tell Kelly Dodd to leave? Who
who you like?
Speaker 1 (35:12):
Who the fuck are you to tell somebody who's on
the same show as you, who's holding an orange as you.
Speaker 2 (35:20):
That they need to leave?
Speaker 1 (35:22):
And that's why I will always laugh and love when
Kelly Dodd said to Heather.
Speaker 2 (35:27):
Who are you? You're not my balls?
Speaker 1 (35:29):
I thought that was like, to me, that's funny, And yeah,
Kelly Doll has said some problematic shit, but we're not
I'm not.
Speaker 2 (35:35):
I'm not here to talk about that right now. I'm
going to talk about the correlation. Go ahead, Alexis.
Speaker 4 (35:40):
I just had a thought. Cameron judge, he's one of
my closest friends. Kicked me out of her gym. She goes,
get the fuck down here. I'm sorry, I'm I'm trying
not to cuse. Just bleep that up.
Speaker 3 (35:51):
But anyway, okay, talking like, wait a minute, I feel
like I've been kicked out.
Speaker 4 (35:57):
What was fine?
Speaker 1 (35:58):
Oh yeah, but listen, guess what if Tama's the fifth
you were on her property?
Speaker 4 (36:07):
Well it hold on? Hold on, Emily was where this
is that?
Speaker 3 (36:11):
So Katie was at Eily's property?
Speaker 2 (36:13):
Oh? Hold on?
Speaker 4 (36:16):
And wasn't Kelly at Heather's house?
Speaker 2 (36:19):
Was restaurant? That's the restaurant, okay, the.
Speaker 4 (36:22):
Only one that Hey, that's the only one. We're correct
about that. We got to just erace everything else.
Speaker 2 (36:28):
But yeah, I don't like that.
Speaker 6 (36:30):
And I also said too that I detested when Shannon
told when Shannon yelled at Katie a few episodes all
go so listen.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
I know that when it comes to Katie, listen. I
like Katie.
Speaker 1 (36:46):
Katie's gorgeous, but I listen when it comes to the
people we love. It's also okay to say, in this instance,
I think you're wrong. I think Katie is a liar. Sorry,
I think she is, but that doesn't mean that she
does serves to be yelled at by Shanning, and it
doesn't mean that she deserves to be kicked out in
that way.
Speaker 2 (37:07):
And Jen, I love Jen, I love you.
Speaker 1 (37:10):
Two pieces the fact that, out of anybody on that show,
you're the closest to her, and I think as a
human being, I expected jan to get up and just
go outside and say, Katie, look, although I think what
you did was whatever, I just want.
Speaker 2 (37:32):
To make sure you're okay because I agree to to
to to be to be alone in that moment.
Speaker 1 (37:38):
And again, it's okay to know that she felt something miserably,
but it doesn't mean that this woman deserved to be.
Speaker 2 (37:46):
Yelled at kicked out.
Speaker 1 (37:48):
And the fact that not one person went outside to
say I want to make sure you're okay.
Speaker 4 (37:55):
I agree with you.
Speaker 2 (37:56):
Yeah, yeah, I.
Speaker 1 (37:58):
Want to talk about the fact that two things were
caught in live Tamra saying that she's on the spectrum,
she felt that she was surprised, she felt it.
Speaker 2 (38:09):
They then flashed back to the therapists pretty much confirming
that that was talked about. What did you make of that?
Speaker 1 (38:14):
Because I thought that was luck And I'm like, well,
we kind of saw on camera that that was a conversation,
So how does she fail that?
Speaker 2 (38:21):
And it made me think about the validity of this test.
Speaker 3 (38:23):
Well, that's exactly right, And that's what I'm trying to say,
is that it's like, even though Gretchen passed it all
with flying colors and Katie failed it all miserably, it
shows you right there with Tameras that the test isn't
all accurate all the time, because it shows that Tamra
had that conversation with her therapist.
Speaker 4 (38:41):
So she's not lying about it her thing.
Speaker 3 (38:43):
Maybe she worded it improperly or or claimed it too
much of it like that she is, but her therapist
in her had the conversation on camera that Tamra should
get tested for being on the spectrum, so because her
therapist thinks she is. So yeah, the test isn't always accurate.
I love that they showed that because then it's like,
because then you have one character on the show passing
with flying colors, one character failing it all miserably, and
(39:07):
so and then you have one that they prove that
the test is in accurate.
Speaker 1 (39:13):
So but one thing that I want to make clear,
and this is why I love having my assistant Lizzie
on because Lizzie watched it with us, and Liza's gonna
keep us honest. Lizzy is texting me saying that the
therapist and Lizzie tell me if I got this Rian
as I'm reading your notes, if they're sending me in real.
Speaker 2 (39:33):
Time, I fall loving show. Okay.
Speaker 1 (39:37):
Lizzy is saying to me that the therapist said she
should get tested for being on the spectrum, but not
necessarily saying she was on the spectrum.
Speaker 2 (39:53):
Lizzy is saying to me, no.
Speaker 1 (39:54):
Onah confirmed that a doctor told her she was on
the spectrum, which is why she turned them around and
apologized on social media.
Speaker 2 (40:03):
Okay, so that's the difference.
Speaker 3 (40:05):
Now, now, thank you for keeping us accurate.
Speaker 1 (40:11):
Always listen to Rialna Tevamiking from the actor reporting I
love Love Love love us. Okay, So that was that
one not not so so now we know why she
failed it because to your point, it was the wrong
question being asked.
Speaker 3 (40:24):
Yes, there we go, debait. They should have said do
you think you're on the spectrum? Not has a doctor
said you're on the spectrum?
Speaker 2 (40:30):
Yeah, the doctor said you should get tested for it?
Speaker 4 (40:33):
Right there you go?
Speaker 2 (40:35):
Okay, Heather failed, not the one Heather.
Speaker 1 (40:42):
I like you, Jesus, I'm recapping the show Heather failed
with acts.
Speaker 2 (40:49):
If she called the paparazzi on herself, I know no
in Alexis tell me.
Speaker 3 (40:57):
I guess by your laughing and your reaction and what
I'm looking watching you do right now, you do.
Speaker 4 (41:03):
Believe she called the paparazzis.
Speaker 2 (41:05):
I think this. I think this, I think this, I
think this. I think this. Now. I will say this.
Speaker 1 (41:13):
I don't think a mother would swear on their children
if they're telling I mean, if they're lying.
Speaker 2 (41:19):
I just.
Speaker 1 (41:21):
I don't know a mother in my life who would
lie on their kids for something as minuscule as a paparazzi.
Speaker 2 (41:31):
I think that's silly. So I will say this. I
watched the show. Heather Debro loves her children to pieces.
She's a great mother.
Speaker 1 (41:43):
If she's saying I did not call them and I
swear my kids, I do believe her. So I do
believe her now with that being said. With that being said,
it's all a game of semantics.
Speaker 5 (41:53):
To me, because my my my true crime reporter alexibl
know who should be a producer on Daylight NBC and
day Light NBC, if.
Speaker 1 (42:04):
You're hiring hire lessis Billina to give us a recording? Now,
I believe that somebody in Heather's camp.
Speaker 4 (42:12):
Ah, I was gonna go there.
Speaker 2 (42:13):
I'm semantic. Did it have the pick up the fall
and call Harvey Labin from TMZ. Absolutely not.
Speaker 1 (42:20):
Now the Heavis assistant publishist, manager, real estate agent friend
called the fabarazzi on her and and uh and Terry.
Speaker 2 (42:30):
Absolutely.
Speaker 4 (42:32):
I I was gonna. I was gonna mention that if
you didn't bring it up. I was, because it's in
my mind, I'm.
Speaker 3 (42:37):
Like, she could totally have failed it because yeah, she
didn't specifically pick up the phone, but she knows in
her heart that somebody did that that is connected to her,
you know.
Speaker 4 (42:46):
So yeah, I was yeah, very very good catch there, Carlos.
Speaker 2 (42:51):
We're okay.
Speaker 3 (42:54):
So maybe we both need to go to dateline and
produce that okay, because we are just I'm just so
proud of our skills.
Speaker 2 (43:01):
Damn. I would love it. That's why are recapt our head,
because people just love us.
Speaker 1 (43:05):
And once again, people haven't seen your praise and so
I won't let you know that another week. You've been
in the pressed, girlfriend, So I can't thank you enough
for hopping on this. Okay, wait, I have a look,
I have a Lizzy note, not a legal note, a
Lizzy note.
Speaker 2 (43:20):
So Lizzy said, I just rewatched it for us. The
therapist sent, it's hard to say until you get an assessment.
Speaker 1 (43:29):
So yes, we are right about the fact that she
said you should get tested.
Speaker 2 (43:34):
Okay, now, so ig, what camera would think?
Speaker 3 (43:37):
I can see why Tamper would think that. The therapist
thought that. Then, Okay, it's not like camera's trying to
lie about it. Like, no one's going to go out
there and lie and say that they they're on the
spectrum when they're not. That's why it was in Tamra's
mind obviously from that what the therapist said, thank you, Lizzie.
Speaker 2 (43:49):
Yes, one hundred percent agreed.
Speaker 7 (43:51):
Now, Gretchen, you before I go back to what she said,
Gretchen passed the test with flying collars.
Speaker 2 (44:06):
Gretchen said she never told Katie that she.
Speaker 1 (44:09):
Went to the hospital, got rufeed she and she passed that.
Speaker 2 (44:13):
She passed the fact that I've got the other questions.
Speaker 1 (44:16):
But long story stores she passed every question and they
said you low key passed with flying collars.
Speaker 4 (44:22):
No, they said you passed I think Lizzie will keep
us on this.
Speaker 3 (44:25):
I think that I remember, I think that the lady said,
the woman examiner said, you actually passed the entire test,
So that's why. And my dateline mind went off because
of what I'm like, Okay, well that's kind of scary, actually, like,
that's not that means you can rely really good, because
there's no way you're going to pass every single one
of them.
Speaker 4 (44:45):
I mean unless what.
Speaker 2 (44:50):
Unless you really are a onl Arietta.
Speaker 3 (44:56):
But we know she's We know she's not because we
have the footage of her the back of the car
saying she did go to the hospital, so she lied.
Speaker 4 (45:03):
There, So she's not true, not honest.
Speaker 3 (45:07):
Honest, Harry or you know whatever, Henriette. I mean, maybe
up if she hadn't slipped up and done that in
the back of the car, then maybe we could all
be going, yeah, she must.
Speaker 4 (45:22):
Be really honest.
Speaker 3 (45:23):
Oh my gosh, she's so she lined one episode ago
to everybody, so don't don't don't don't sing her praises
on that just because she can pass the light detector
test with flying colors.
Speaker 1 (45:39):
But Alex says, it just hit me what My producer
brain went off again. The fact that the producers are
showing us flashbacks to come back the failure and the
passing of some of these women. I believe they're low
(46:01):
key telling us without telling us, perhaps this live this
live detector test results is not as accurate as it
should be because to your point, but Tamra thing we
saw Booth, the Gretcha thing.
Speaker 2 (46:19):
We saw that she did tell Tamara and Shannon that
she did go to the hospital.
Speaker 1 (46:25):
She sent the live detective tests, she did not go
to the hospital, and she passed. Maybe the producers are
saying to us, this is our way of not getting
into the weeds of it, but we can only allow
you guys to see the full picture that maybe this
live detective test isn't as accurate as it may appear.
(46:45):
If that's the case, are we now being told that
maybe Katie told the truth and some of these things,
or do you believe that Katie filled significantly because she
lied about every by significantly.
Speaker 3 (47:02):
Well, I can't remember all of her questions now, but
I definitely don't think she's going to fail the entire
test unless it's because remember when she sat down in
the chair, She's just.
Speaker 4 (47:12):
Like, I'm so anxious I'm so anxious. I'm so anxious.
Speaker 3 (47:14):
So maybe she kind of psyites herself out to where
her body was just reacting in every certain.
Speaker 4 (47:19):
Way for all the questions.
Speaker 3 (47:20):
If they said, even if they said, are you know,
are you forty two? And she has forty two, I
don't know what her age is, but I'm just saying, you.
Speaker 4 (47:26):
Know, I asked her question like that that really is
she is honestly saying.
Speaker 3 (47:30):
I think she might have still even failed it because
I think she was so just so worked up. But
by the way, Carlos, I think the producers also are
are setting us up for a couple episodes coming up
that they're going that they're they're going to keep using
this light detector test and show that there are more
lies that are still being told. I believe that we're
still going to see more lies.
Speaker 4 (47:51):
I don't know why.
Speaker 3 (47:52):
I think that they the light detector test was just
one way of like saying that they're not legit, but
also to add some fun and some you know, it
was kind of interesting to watch it, right, But I
believe that we're still going to see more lies coming out.
Speaker 2 (48:05):
I did too. I do too.
Speaker 3 (48:06):
Flash back back to the light detector test too, so
it was just interesting.
Speaker 4 (48:10):
I'm glad they did it.
Speaker 3 (48:11):
I know America is not loving it and thinks it
was really bad, bad, but I I love it.
Speaker 4 (48:16):
I think it was I think it was fun.
Speaker 1 (48:18):
Look, this was the best episode of the season, and
all the episodes to me have been great, So I
think at the end of the day, I can predict
that this episode will probably be the highest rated of
the season so far. Because of what you said, Alexit,
It's one of those things that I had an emotional
reaction watching it, and it's because I've never seen anything
(48:41):
like this on a housewives show, where everybody is called
to the carpet and being forced honestly, you know, with
the machine strapped to you to be honest. And look,
if Katie is a liar, this is what I will.
Speaker 2 (48:57):
I mean, I do think she is one, but I
want to.
Speaker 1 (48:59):
Go on record saying I don't think Katie is the
own liar, right, and I don't think. I don't think
Katie's lies is bigger than other housewives who have lied
that are still on the show.
Speaker 3 (49:15):
Agree That's how I feel, And I don't think Katie's.
Speaker 4 (49:18):
A liar about everything either. I want to clear that.
Speaker 3 (49:20):
I don't think she lies about every single thing. I
think she's just she's just got caught in so many
that you know that that now it's hard to believe
any of what she says. But I don't think she's
she I don't think she failed that test all the
way and lied about every single one of them.
Speaker 4 (49:33):
I don't think.
Speaker 2 (49:34):
So. Yeah, and I'm also.
Speaker 3 (49:37):
Over I'm also over the Katie stuff. Like I'm ready
for the show to move. It's like, it's like, put
that to rest and let's move the show forward. So
I'm hoping, you know, like next episode it's going to
be to be continued because we saw Katie, you know,
leave and is so upset, and it's like, okay, can
we just now can we take the point of moving
over this and go on to fast forward the show
(49:58):
in another direction?
Speaker 2 (50:00):
I I drew with you.
Speaker 1 (50:02):
So it looks like Katie may have been sirt her
walking papers. Katie did an interview recently where she said
that she was not invited to I believe the cast
trip she asks to go.
Speaker 2 (50:13):
That's allegedly what happened. Who knows.
Speaker 1 (50:16):
But my last question for you, alexis is this based
on what you've seen. Do you think Gretchen is being
set up by the producers to come back to the
show next season as a full time housewife.
Speaker 4 (50:32):
I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (50:35):
I mean, I think there's just so many more episodes
to see. And there was one on the trailer where
she's really really oh on the cast trip, it looked
like that she was screaming into the van. Make it
make sense. So I don't know, I don't know. I
think there's a lot to buy, a lot that we're going.
Speaker 4 (50:52):
To get to see.
Speaker 2 (50:53):
Yeah, would you want her to.
Speaker 4 (50:55):
Come back full time? What is your take on that?
Speaker 1 (50:58):
Look, I'm a big Regipan, and I think Gretchen and
Tama to me, reminds me a lot of Portia Kenya.
Reminds me a lot of just like when you have
two women who are very strong and opinionated have a conflict.
Speaker 2 (51:13):
I think they're both great at it.
Speaker 1 (51:14):
So looks as of now, I would love to see
Gretchen back full time. I want to see Alexis Belino
back full time. You know, I would like to see
Shannaby a friend up to the show in my opinion,
And look, I think the rest of the cast should
stay and I think Katie just isn't built for reality television.
Speaker 2 (51:35):
I think Katie.
Speaker 1 (51:37):
I think Katie should just go back to like what
she was doing before the show and live a very
peaceful life with her amazing husband.
Speaker 2 (51:45):
I think Matt is a great guy. So that's that's
what Carlos Kimbral likes to see.
Speaker 3 (51:50):
Okay, well you heard it here, and so we will
see if your prediction is right. We can we can
flash back to this in a year.
Speaker 4 (51:58):
Or two say you're wrong, Yes we can't.
Speaker 2 (52:03):
Electavely no.
Speaker 1 (52:04):
Thank you so much, my sister for another great episode,
and I'll see you next week.
Speaker 2 (52:09):
Bye, doll.
Speaker 1 (52:13):
Reality with the King is executive produced by me Carlos King,
produced by Lizzie Nimitz, and a partnership.
Speaker 2 (52:22):
With The Lack Effect Network.
Speaker 1 (52:24):
You can also find us on my YouTube channel at
the Carlos King Underscore
Popular Podcasts
Stuff You Should Know
If you've ever wanted to know about champagne, satanism, the Stonewall Uprising, chaos theory, LSD, El Nino, true crime and Rosa Parks, then look no further. Josh and Chuck have you covered.
Crime Junkie
Does hearing about a true crime case always leave you scouring the internet for the truth behind the story? Dive into your next mystery with Crime Junkie. Every Monday, join your host Ashley Flowers as she unravels all the details of infamous and underreported true crime cases with her best friend Brit Prawat. From cold cases to missing persons and heroes in our community who seek justice, Crime Junkie is your destination for theories and stories you won’t hear anywhere else. Whether you're a seasoned true crime enthusiast or new to the genre, you'll find yourself on the edge of your seat awaiting a new episode every Monday. If you can never get enough true crime... Congratulations, you’ve found your people. Follow to join a community of Crime Junkies! Crime Junkie is presented by audiochuck Media Company.
NFL Daily with Gregg Rosenthal
Gregg Rosenthal and a rotating crew of elite NFL Media co-hosts, including Patrick Claybon, Colleen Wolfe, Steve Wyche, Nick Shook and Jourdan Rodrigue of The Athletic get you caught up daily on all the NFL news and analysis you need to be smarter and funnier than your friends.