August 8, 2025 • 37 mins
It’s RHOC recap day, and Carlos is back with Alexis Bellino! This episode is packed with personal stories - and Tamra’s in the hot seat over a circulating photo. Whose side will they take in the Tamra vs. Jenn drama? Plus, the cast is heading to New Orleans, and you know things are about to get spicy!
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Reality with the King is hosted by me, Carlos King.
I'm an executive producer who have produced some of your
favorite shows from the Real Housewives in Atlanta, New Jersey
and my own creation, The Love and Marriage Franchise and
bell Collective. Every episode we recap reality television from the
Real Housewives Franchise to The Bachelor or Selling Sunset, in
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addition to celebrity guests, whether in the unscripted space or
scripted as well. Hey, ray Drops, Oh, today's episode Reality
of the King. We are going to recap episode five
of season nineteen of the Real Housewives of Oorts County.
And look, I've been having such a good time with
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her and she has been such a gem. Why not
invite her back? You guys are loving her. I love
her the most. Give it up for the beautiful Alexis
Bellino back again.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Like it or not?
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Hi, I like we like it.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
The ray Drops are loving you. I hope you've been
having as much fun with me as I have it
with you.
Speaker 4 (01:14):
Girl, Carlos, I would never have invited you to my
wedding if we weren't having fun all the time.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
So yeah, it doesn't matter if we're at a party
or we're here, you're fun everywhere.
Speaker 4 (01:24):
So yeah, yeah, And guess what if I was wearing
an ugly outfit, you'd say, I think maybe you should,
you know, step it up a little.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
I know that about you that I.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
Like the Yes, that's totally beat, that's totally beat.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
Well, look, as we get started, I gotta ask you
the million dollar question.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
Okay, do you have a fatty photo somewhere?
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Oh my, you're going there.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
You know, it's the topic of the episode.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
I know you're right, You're right.
Speaker 4 (02:03):
I I do fluctuate sometimes.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
I think five at the most pounds.
Speaker 4 (02:08):
I don't have a photo of me super super heavy.
I think here's the thing, here's the thing I wanted
to make clear. I'm glad you brought this up. Every woman,
as stick thin as you could be, can take the
wrong pose at the wrong angle, or your arms like
in the road, and you could look twenty pounds heavier
than you really are, or ten pounds or five pounds.
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So yeah, I'm sure there's there's some out there. But
I my weight doesn't flexuate because I just I don't know.
I mean five pounds, it does five to ten pounds,
five never ten.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
But I don't think that it's.
Speaker 4 (02:42):
Something where it's like that could have just been a
bad angle to be honest.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
Yeah, I mean, look, I feel like we all have one. Look,
Alexis I got one? You see?
Speaker 2 (02:56):
Okay, that doesn't look bad to me, Carlos, but look
at the house. Okay, show me your abs now? Oh okay?
Speaker 4 (03:07):
Oh okay, Well you didn't prep me, see we don't.
We don't talk before these You didn't prep me to
go find the worst photo I have of my ads.
I would show you after Memorial Day weekend or something
like that and show you the way I look.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Okay, you didn't give me that.
Speaker 4 (03:22):
Yeah, can you give me a little bit of advice
when we're going to do this episode from now on?
Speaker 3 (03:27):
I want to.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
That isn't okay? So wait is that you? Now?
Speaker 3 (03:35):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (03:37):
Okay, hatty p Tati? Holy okay, you have a six pack?
What you've been eating?
Speaker 1 (03:44):
Well, you know I'm planning based, so I eat lots
of grease kanewah to.
Speaker 4 (03:50):
So you are hold on, I know we have to
get into the episode, but you so you are vegan?
Speaker 3 (03:55):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (03:57):
Wow? And is that medical or is that just you
just decided to.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
No, it's all vanity it's all vanity. I'm vain.
Speaker 4 (04:05):
So you think meat causes because there's traders that think
it doesn't. But you think meat causes you to be heavier,
and the greens keep you.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
And the vegetables keep you lean and mean and mean machine.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
Yeah, I feel like greens keep you lean and meat
keeps you meat these so I am very much a
lean cuisine.
Speaker 4 (04:28):
Well, I'm known as the rabbit because I eat mostly vegetables.
I want a salad or some veggies. I'll order the
asparagus even though it makes your peace snank. I don't care.
I will order the asparagus with my own seasonings and
maybe some parmesan doesn't matter. So maybe that's why I
don't gain a ton of weight here and there. I
also don't like sweet anymore in my older age. But yeah, okay,
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we have to dig in.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
I know, we okay, so we have to say again,
so listen see we First of all, I thought this
episode was super fun. I laughed a lot watching the episode,
so I thought it was a fun. Well, but what
wasn't fun is this. You know, listen, there's a storyline
that they continue this episode of Tamera alleging that you know,
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Jen wants to be her and showing a photo of
Jen where she was heavier than she is now.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
The cast called it.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
The fatty photo, and Jim looked visibly upset by it.
She's like, who walks around? Like and does that? Did
you think it was mean?
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Wait?
Speaker 4 (05:39):
When you say Jen walks around saying who does that?
Speaker 2 (05:44):
You mean who does the photo?
Speaker 3 (05:46):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (05:47):
Because because here's the problem. Jen was in the photo
with her. They were taking the photo together. It was
a photo of you saw the photo, It was a
photo of all of them together.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
Jen was not happy that Tamara decided to send it
to people and show it to people.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
Did you think that was sending it me spaed it?
Speaker 4 (06:05):
Yeah, well I definitely wouldn't start showing that to people.
I don't know what that was, but I think at
the point, I'm not sure, I don't know, okay, but
I feel like maybe at that point, here's the thing.
I think Gin's up to here with Tamar, and I
think Tamar's up here with Jen. I don't know how
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we're ever going to make this a Kumbaya moment, which
we all want, right, we all want, we all want
the reconciliation part of it. I think at that moment
watching that, I was like, Tamar is completely fed up,
thinks that Jen did really want to turn into her
and become her. So she's showing the photo of when
they met and then that I don't know what I mean,
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how else do you explain it?
Speaker 2 (06:49):
I don't.
Speaker 4 (06:50):
I honestly know that Tamar doesn't have a n bone
in her body like that. But I do think it
was not okay to show it. I will be honest,
I don't think it was okay to see it, And I'm
sure would you would you show that photo if you
were in Tamor's position.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
Well, that's the thing, listen, I think I agree with
you right in the sense of look showing the photo
to insinuate someone's weight. If that's what she was doing,
then that's not okay, right.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
Based on what I've.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
Heard from Tamora on the show prior to that, was
how she really thinks this woman has transformed herself into
how into what Tamer feels right Like. I think that's
the difference that I'm seeing, and I think you agree
with that. To Alexis, I think Tamar was saying this
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woman transformed herself into looking like me is the before
and after of it all.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
That's what I got from.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
It, And here's that's what I got from you.
Speaker 4 (07:54):
And here's what I'm as an outsider I'm saying, is Okay,
I can see both sides.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
Care's why I can see.
Speaker 4 (08:01):
Where Tamra would think this girl's trying to be me.
I can see also Jen wanting to Tamra has. Let's
be real, Tamra has like seven things. Now we've watched
the season a little bit more, We've seen like four
episodes or three episodes for Tamar has all this evidence.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
Of Jen did this and does this, and does this
and does.
Speaker 4 (08:18):
This, and now it's like, Okay, I can kind of
see that side. However, there's also the side of if
someone sees a photo of them or is like I
just want to be better. I want to be leaner,
I want to have longer hair, I want to have
better skin.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
We can't judge for that either.
Speaker 4 (08:36):
It's like, that's why I'm so caught in the like
this like the middle and a vortext because it's like,
I don't think either of them are really trying to.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
Be I don't I think they both have Okay, let
me see it.
Speaker 4 (08:48):
This way, I think they both have a good position
for where they stand. I think Tamarra has a good
point and Jen has a good point. And that's the
rot why this makes this this argument so like monumental,
like it's a big deal and I don't know where's
it going to go from here.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
I mean, that's why it's juicy. Okay. And by the way, yeah,
big jam Or hadn't shown that photo.
Speaker 4 (09:17):
I mean that photo is creating the entire storyline once
again right now, Like I don't know, she kind of carries.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
The story, she moves everything forward. I don't agree with it.
I'm letting you know right now, I am telling you
I don't agree with it.
Speaker 4 (09:30):
She ever showed the photo. However, here we are and
I can see both sides of them.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, No, I agree.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
And it's interesting too because I felt like when Gina
was talking to Heather about it, Heather was sort of like, look,
I think she did it for these reasons. And instantly
they're like, Heather is scared of camera. This is your
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friend group. I don't know them as well as you do.
Do you think Heather is scared of Tamera?
Speaker 2 (10:09):
No, No, Heather is not scared of Tamra.
Speaker 4 (10:12):
No, I think I think Heather has her own viewpoints.
I don't think Heather is scared of Tamla. I think
it's it's this is a sticky situation because Tamara had
does have six or seven valid points about why Jin
is looking like she's uh, you know, seeing a white
female Jin.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
Also, it's like this is worn pony.
Speaker 4 (10:34):
I'm just trying to be a better person, like look better,
be better, feel better kind of thing.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
That's that's the wash, and that's the truth of it.
Speaker 4 (10:42):
Like, I don't think at all that Heather is scared
of Camela. I don't think anyone I was just tell you,
I will tell you. I think Heather is afraid of
having enemies. I think Heather has such a soft soul
that she doesn't want to have anyone mad at her
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or like I feel like she plays Switzerland a lot,
like doesn't have a lot of a huge backbone in
certain areas. But Heather is not scared of people. So
what That's that's how I feel. And I love Heather,
She's one of my good friends. I love her so
but that's how I mean. I think we can see
that through the show and through the season.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
You know, yeah, Aubrey, I don't think Heather is afraid
of anybody. I think Heather has based on what I've
seen from Heather on the years she's been on She's
a tough woman and she's.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
Never shied the way from stating her opinion. I'll be
a popular or not.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
I feel like Heather stands in her beliefs, in her convictions.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
I don't think for a second she's got a tamera.
I think when.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
It comes to Heather, she owns who she is and
she's not trying to ever follow the majority boat. I
just don't see her as the type of woman.
Speaker 4 (12:07):
I agree. I one hundred percent agree. I think she
does stand her ground, but I.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
Do feel like to keep I feel like she's kind
of the peace. She tries to be a little bit
of the peacemaker.
Speaker 4 (12:20):
There are times I feel like she could have one
side more than the other where she I feel like she.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
Kind of goes a little in the middle. But that's
just me and I have filmed with her, so yeah.
Speaker 4 (12:33):
I mean, I sat by her at the reunion in
last season eighteen, and she did not stick up for me.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
When everyone's yelling at me and we have already talked
about this, we have smashed this, we have done this.
It's done.
Speaker 4 (12:43):
But you know, she was right there where she could
have simply said, guys, let her like this talk and
so so I just think she sometimes she wants to
be the peacemaker.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
I didn't think about that because I remember you and
I spoke about that too, and I felt the same
way at last year's reunion when it came to I
felt like it was a pile of shit just dumped
on you, and I'm like, why is it anyone defending election?
Speaker 2 (13:13):
So it wasn't a pile of shit dumped on me.
Speaker 4 (13:15):
It was Emily yelling and not letting me speak, and
so it was it was just her loud mouth and
then Heather was stuck in the middle. So it was
But that's okay. Look, I don't want to talk about
the past. We got to talk about this episode. So
it was juicy and good and I think next episode, Okay,
the trailer for next episode.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
I'm like, oh, hey, gosh, I can't wait to see it.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
But no, it's good.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
Yeah, yeah, it's good.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
This is reality with the King, and I'm Carlos King.
Let's get back into the show. So what I love
about Gina is listen, I'm proud of Gina, her sobriety.
I'm happy that she is killing it in real estate.
So she's hosting this event and she surprises the girls
with the New Orleans trip, and then you visibly see
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Tamra not excited to go, and that's when we learned
that this is the start of what has been you know,
out there in social media world about how Tamra left
the cast trip early and she announced I believe on.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
Social media that she quit.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
So what we what we saw in this episode, Alexis,
was Tamra talking about her lack of enthusiasm going to
New Orleans because it's the same location that her best
friend and fellow podcast host Teddy Mellencamp felled down marble
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stairs as she's going through cancer and getting humors removed.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
And I'm just like.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
It's it's it's it's fascinating to watch all of this
unfolding real time because you I saw camera personality change
instantly when Gina announced New Orleans. And I know a
lot of people are like, oh, Tom's making excuses, but
I feel like that was to me, that moment was
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so pivotal that she really is dealing with some heavy
shit at this current time of filming.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
It. You can see it. And this is the thing.
Speaker 4 (15:28):
Tamra doesn't cry on camera about personal things, like not
deep of a personal thing because she doesn't like to
go there.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
I can tell it. I can see it. Even in
the seasons that we've watched before, she'll cry about things
that are in the moment that she's ticked off about
or this, and that she doesn't go deep.
Speaker 4 (15:46):
That's what she's in therapy for. I feel like right
now it's trying to dig deep, right, like get to
the deeper roots. But she doesn't typically cry about something
that's so close and personal. And I think she was
still at that moment back at that time, it was
all true new. I don't even think camera could even
function like knowing, okay, what's happening right now, Like I'm
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barely being able to film.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
I don't know my best friend. I don't know if
she's you know, what's happening, what's her what's her diagnosis?
But so it was.
Speaker 4 (16:17):
That's the thing with the camera is a raw and
it can capture the real moment. It can also tell
when you're faking it. Fake crying is very apparent. Real
crying and real emotion is very apparent.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
So I feel like that.
Speaker 4 (16:33):
Was one of the moments that you can look and go,
holy hat, she's hurting like bad right now.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
No, it's just to like hear what Teddy is going through,
what happened.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
To her, how the fall really you know, did a
did her confidence that she was rebuilding after going through this.
It was just it was very sad to to to
just hear that and then to have to visualize how
that moment must have felt for for Tamera being triggered
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by the thoughts of New Orleans. But look, it's the
beauty of the show when you get to follow stuff
in real time. Speaking of beauty, following Ran in the
gym full time, it's my idea of a great night.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
Alexis, I'm just.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
Okay, what do you mean following Ryan Jen's husband? Yeah,
I'm confused. So you want to just you want to
just go back to more gem scenes and follow him.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
That's it.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
Give me that spin off, Bravo, What do you think?
What are you guys talking about? Give me that spinoff?
You can add Eddie there at John Like, that's my
type of seed. Give me Ryan working out please every
day of the week.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
Well, like you mentioned, I mean.
Speaker 4 (17:55):
You mentioned at the beginning of this episode or just
when we first start talking about this episode, you mentioned
that you liked that it was lighter and there were
some fun There was a lot more like some of
the home Wife, some of the gym wipe, some of
the other life and the whole episode, which I enjoyed
because the quirkiness and the fun stuff that you see
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behind a couple or two friends. That's draw and not
just you know, more of the let's get into the
heart of it all.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
It's really actually cool and I thought it was fun.
Speaker 4 (18:26):
I think it's cool to see how people interact and
couples interact and you can relate and you're.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
Like, oh we do that or oh that was odd,
you know, like either way, it's just so fun.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
Yeah, yeah, No, I really really enjoyed it. And like
you said, getting deeper in this episode versus like the
girl and Girl drama to hear Jan talk about what
she's going through in her situation with her ex husband,
how she was awarded child support.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
She mentioned how she was also awarded never paid.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
She told Jeff Lewis is actually two hundred thousand dollars
that is ow to her.
Speaker 3 (19:06):
She has not seen a dime.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
That was wild to me, Like, how is he able
to get away with that if it was the judgment
in court that he has to pay.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
I don't I honestly don't know. It's actually bizarre.
Speaker 4 (19:23):
And also props like and by the way, there should
be something that is done about that because of the
judgment of the court.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
She's got most of the kids most of the time.
She needs some help.
Speaker 4 (19:33):
But props to Ryan for actually taking these kids under
his wing and just saying okay, look, but how embarrassing
for the dad that didn't isn't paying Like now the
stepdad or the boyfriend their fanced but like, okay, now
the boyfriend's.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
Paying for all the kids when the dad should be.
Speaker 4 (19:52):
But I mean, why don't we know if he has
like some you know issue, Well, he's not on the
cat so we won't know, but he might have financial problems.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (20:04):
But all I know is it's embarrassing the other fatherers
taking care of your children when you're well capable of it.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
In the judgments, you're spots too.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
No listen, Ryan is great because he's not married to
Jin just yet. He had his girlfriend with his fiance
and her children move into his home. I listen, I
understand why Ryan felt the need of Alexis to confront
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Jim's ex husband to really ask about, like where's the money?
Because I think it Ry's defense is a man to
man conversation and the fact that his children, you know,
Jen's and his.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
Child or residing in Ryan's house. They're residing Arian's house.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
It's like, it's it's crazy, It's crazy. I don't I
thought it was a great thing that he confront of him.
Speaker 3 (21:03):
What did you think?
Speaker 4 (21:05):
I'm I'm kind of mixed about that, honestly, coming from
a broken family, I think it's I think it's hard
because you just don't know what's going to be the
right thing to do, right Carlos, because he is supporting
the kids. Ryan is supporting the kids most of the time.
They are living in his home most of the time.
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I don't even know what the what the agreement is.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
So it's hard, and I don't know that a.
Speaker 4 (21:36):
Man to man conversation is the right way to handle it,
because then that, you know, does set Gin back ten steps,
like she said, and she's just trying to keep the peace.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
But maybe it's the one thing that'll work.
Speaker 4 (21:48):
Maybe it's the one thing that'll get will isn't it
will to actually step up a little, you know, I
don't know.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
It's hard because I'm from a broken pain.
Speaker 4 (22:00):
So it's like I can see I can see the
that Ryan was doing it and all, you know, wanted to.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
Do it to help the situation. And then I can
see where Jenna is like, that's just hurt the situation.
I can see both sides.
Speaker 3 (22:16):
Okay, No, that's fair.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
I can't be black and white.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
No, that's fair.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
That's fair because at the end of the day, if
something goes awry, like Jen said, the ex would allegedly
use that to punish her, which is not okay.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
Right, And that's the sticky part to it.
Speaker 1 (22:41):
No, that makes sense that yeah, yeah, yeah, no, it was.
It was tough to hear. The other thing, though, alexis
as we're diving to the deep personal stories. The other
thing that was tough to hear is what Gina and
Travis are going through as it relates to traps ex, who.
Speaker 3 (23:02):
Is allegedly.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
Not allowing Travis to see his son because Travis is
dealing with Gina and how he's not even the son
isn't even going to school like this.
Speaker 3 (23:22):
This is mind boggling to me that.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
This happens, the fact that a parent would do that.
Speaker 4 (23:33):
It's scary because the court system can't keep up with
all of it. There's so many, Like I do feel
a court tries to make it fair and equal for everyone,
and there's just so many divorced families, and.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
It's like, how how do they keep up? I don't know.
Speaker 4 (23:51):
That's why you have to work really hard to keep
you know, some kind of an agreement so it doesn't
go to court.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
And and and the fact is, where does Travis go?
How does he get any help? You can't. It's like
you just don't get the sun. I mean, you can
call the cops, you know, you couldn't.
Speaker 4 (24:09):
There are certain things you can do, but then the
cops do come and they'll be like, sorry, I can't
help you right now, Like you know, this is a
court situation. It's just it's so bizarre. And I don't
want to say the court system is broken, but in
the family court of law, I do feel like it
might be a little broken. I feel so bad for
so many families, and there's so many emotions and so,
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you know, especially when children can't speak their mind or
really have you know, I think it's like twelve or
fourteen so they can actually say, you know, before the
court will actually listen to them.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
So yeah, it's hard.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
Yeah. No, that made me sad to hear that.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
And then the fact that the ex wife is calling
Gina's son.
Speaker 4 (24:55):
Fuck and involving the children. Okay, okay, you got to
keep gives out of it. It's between the adults here,
you know.
Speaker 3 (25:06):
I I my my mind boggled with that.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
I agree.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
The cast then goes to New Orleans and listen. I
love it when the cast goes on a trip. I
feel like you're going to get a double dose of
fun and drama.
Speaker 3 (25:23):
So listen.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
I enjoyed them getting ready for it. Shannon showed what
she was working with between her legs.
Speaker 3 (25:33):
You know, I was shocked. I was shocked.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
That shocked me.
Speaker 3 (25:40):
I thought she was like so conservative.
Speaker 4 (25:44):
Yeah, I'm not gonna I have lost her name for
my vocabulary, thank you, thankfully.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
Like now it's like we're done.
Speaker 3 (25:51):
I will okay.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
I think people are starting to seed the truth.
Speaker 3 (25:56):
Okay, Alexis. There's certain things you can.
Speaker 4 (26:03):
Give any advice or any I'm sorry, you can give
any input.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
You want to on that. I am going to muzzle Okay.
Speaker 3 (26:13):
I'll left it.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
I wish I wish the dress was muzzled like that
is something that I just I just do not. I
don't want to see that. I just and and and
she was gleefully showing it. I'm like, this ain't the
love hotel.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
I don't know who you're trying to secure by showing your.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
I will say that she's sitting there going no, No,
nobody wants to date. And it's like, okay, well it's
clear why why they don't, Like.
Speaker 4 (26:41):
No one wants to hear and see those kind of
things like they wouldn't if you're gonna act class even
be classy, like don't just at it like.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
Okay, that's all I'm gonna say. I told you I'm
not gonna die jokes. No, I no listen, no listen
mine right now? You ready.
Speaker 3 (27:03):
To me? Sister?
Speaker 2 (27:06):
You would you would click, honey, you know what you
would do. You would click that button? So bad done? Okay,
podcasts over the world.
Speaker 3 (27:13):
For the night in recording that you.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
Listen honey, you're about to get married, so clearly you
know how to use what you got, so let's just
keep it there.
Speaker 3 (27:26):
But well, it's funny because I.
Speaker 4 (27:32):
Mean John and I have not because yeah we're yeah, okay,
we learned, you know, let that from last event.
Speaker 3 (27:38):
We'll move on, do you guys? Okay, what.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
What are the topics the Alexis were if aie was
ever made a sex video?
Speaker 2 (27:50):
You need a drink for this. Drink water. It's a
bottle of water, mylet.
Speaker 4 (27:56):
People can't see and I'm like, I neither drink and
I'm like, okay, having a martini over here.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
Okay, So alex Is, what what are your thoughts all
like couples making sex videos?
Speaker 4 (28:10):
Well, I think if you're in a loving relationship, and
you are, you know, here's the fear that I would
always have, because now it's my third marriage, would be
what if that gets out? What if then it's like, okay,
you something goes awry. It's like okay, now what But
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they's just out there, you know. I think it's great.
It can be a lot of fun for a couple.
I just feel like it's a little scary, you know,
because I'm getting married to John right now, So.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
Yeah, what do you think have you done it? Carlos haven't. Yeah,
you're pleading to that.
Speaker 3 (29:04):
There is nothing recorded.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
Listen you know how like when you're listen with cell
phone with cell phones, Verse came.
Speaker 3 (29:11):
Out and you were like trying to.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
Cell phones came.
Speaker 4 (29:18):
Out, You're trying to what videos like you were oh
and then it dropped or what what?
Speaker 2 (29:24):
I don't know where you're going.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
No, you're just like you're having fun, you're in love,
you're having fun, and you test your shit out. But
then but then I'm like you Alexis, I was like,
wait a second. I immediately was like this is getting
deleted the moment, like the.
Speaker 3 (29:40):
Action is done. I just I'm not. I'm not. I
don't need anything saved.
Speaker 4 (29:47):
Well yeah, or if it gets out, that's the problem
you have to That's what I worry about.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
What these people, you know, that's the scary thing.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
It's okay, No, people are crazy and.
Speaker 3 (30:01):
Exes are not as graceful these days.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
What does that mean.
Speaker 3 (30:13):
If they're mad at you build.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
Engines? Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's that you're it's
at yours. It's right there at your hand. You can
do it. You know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (30:25):
Before it was you had to have the big old device,
the big cam quorder that you're like, okay, let me
try to how do you do that?
Speaker 2 (30:31):
Like a phone?
Speaker 4 (30:32):
It's like, okay, it's more discreet, like you know it
was before we had the rep the Flintstone age, you know,
like okay, here.
Speaker 3 (30:39):
Yes, yes, exactly. So I'm glad.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
Look, I'm glad that time my life is over now.
One thing that I thought was a funny revelation have
a Debro revealed that Terry Debro where its lift shoes, obsessed, obsessed.
Speaker 4 (31:05):
Okay, And I think it's phenomenal too because I think
most people know it. You can kind of tell when
he was, you know, out in about or whatever. But
I think it's awesome that it's self revealing. That I'm
not duprecating because it's on him, not her, but you know,
it's just being so lulnerable and honest. It's like, look, okay,
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who cares he wants to gain an entry or two?
Speaker 2 (31:28):
Okay, what's the problem with that? No body deal. He
still looks great, they're happily married. It does not matter.
It's like okay, but yeah, awesome. And she's like I
love the comment where she's like they probably cost more
than a house or something. I forget when it was
like something like that his shoes. We won't be buying
another pair of those anything.
Speaker 3 (31:49):
So yeah, no, not any time soon.
Speaker 1 (31:51):
But it made me think, like, I mean, because I'm
like five nine a half, and because John is how
John is like what six to two?
Speaker 2 (32:01):
Yeah? You tall? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (32:04):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (32:05):
I and Tina peck and still hot as f So
there you go. But anyway, yeah, he doesn't need shoes.
He didn't need a lift in anything. Okay, But so
you're I do want some, I know what, but you
don't think five nine and a half you feel like
you want to be a little taller. I'll text Terry
and ask him where he gets them. Maybe it's a
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Christmas present. We'll get it for you for Christmas, Okay,
Heather and I'll go in on it together, all right.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
Yeah, so you think it would feel good to feel
five to ten?
Speaker 3 (32:40):
Ah? For sure? All for sure? For sure? Because this
is things everyone likes a tall man.
Speaker 4 (32:48):
I think that I don't think hype matters. I think
that it's about the heart and about everything else. I mean,
it's weird because I usually am with taller men because
I'm five seven, though, Carlos, It's like, what what short
guys even gonna think I'm hot?
Speaker 2 (33:01):
You know, Like it's like I'm like too tall for everyone.
It's shorter, you know, so they're like, oh, Jero too tall,
you know. So no, it's yeah, I can see it. Okay,
let's get you some list, honey.
Speaker 1 (33:15):
Yes, almost, almost some lifts, but no. After I watched
this episode, I thought of you, Alexis, because I know
in our conversations you always talked about like how you
know you like it when the shows are fun, you
like it when the show's get personal story. I thought
this was the first episode the season where I enjoyed
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them having fun and to be laughing at like broken vaginas,
like the joke of that with Jen having public surgery.
Like I thought all of that to me was a
solid episode of like getting back to like them enjoying
each other having fun.
Speaker 3 (33:54):
Did you feel the same way watching it too? I did?
Speaker 2 (33:57):
I was.
Speaker 4 (33:58):
I loved I mean just because some times it's fun
to kind of chuckle, you know, even if it's not
something you can relate to, It's like it just fun
to chuckle and see how other people live their lives.
That's what I think is good about all of the
reality TV is just like, Okay, you can watch how
someone lives their life, because when you're in your own life,
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it is so a lot.
Speaker 2 (34:19):
Okay, it's a lot.
Speaker 4 (34:21):
And then you can go, oh, well they're kind of
dorky in that way, or oh they argue about that,
it just it just puts you. Or you can go, oh,
maybe that's a better tool I can use for the
next argument, or oh that was funny.
Speaker 2 (34:35):
I want to make that joke with my husband. I
don't know.
Speaker 4 (34:38):
I love the I love the day to day I do,
and I know they can't do too much of it
because they've loved the audience.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
I know that.
Speaker 4 (34:45):
You know that as a producer for twenty years in
this industry. However, it is fun to have a little
bit of an in it. The Carlos quite tell you something.
I think after watching that next preview for next week,
I think that there's a set up.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
I think they're getting ready.
Speaker 4 (35:01):
We're like, Okay, let's give them a little bit of
fun because they don't get hot head down next week.
Speaker 2 (35:06):
Yeah that was all about I.
Speaker 3 (35:15):
Agree with you. They're like motherfuckers enjoy this while you can't.
Speaker 1 (35:20):
This is the last fun episode you're going to get
because the ship is about to hit the fan next week.
I mean, Gretchen, Tamera, Katie Shannon, like, everybody's getting into
it next week.
Speaker 3 (35:35):
So look, one thing we know about this cast trips.
It breaks out the drama.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
And when they said twenty four hours later, it looks
like they are not going to disappoint in that department.
So Alexis you have to come back next week to
talk about that. It's going to be insane.
Speaker 4 (35:54):
And I think that's the rest of the seasons unity
in same Like you see the trailer, you know, it
all goes.
Speaker 2 (36:02):
It's like it's like that's why they're giving us this
little bit of It's like here's a piece of cotton candy.
Here take a cotton candy stick, and now we're going
into the mud. You're going into the mud for the
next three episodes, the guy or four I don't know
how many, Oh.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
Gosh, I don't know how many, but at least three
or four we have to I don't even know what
episode we're on.
Speaker 2 (36:23):
What is this one?
Speaker 1 (36:24):
It's episode five? So so the episode five were talking about,
we have.
Speaker 2 (36:29):
At least five.
Speaker 1 (36:30):
Yeah, yeah, no, it's going to be crazy and it's
we also heard in the in the coming attractions, that's
when Tamer quits the show and we get to see
what led her to do that, and listen. I can't
wait to see it. I can't wait to recap that
with you, Alexis. Thank you so much, my sweet dear,
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for taking time out of your busy, busy, busy busy
evening for us. It's a late one for us, but
thank you so much for joining me. Enjoy your soon
to be hobby and the family, and I'll catch you
on the next one, my love.
Speaker 2 (37:10):
Okay, last, We'll see you later, guys. Bye.
Speaker 1 (37:16):
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Speaker 3 (37:24):
With the Lack Effect Network.
Speaker 1 (37:27):
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addition to celebrity guests, whether in the unscripted space or
scripted as well. Hey, ray Drops, Oh, today's episode Reality
of the King. We are going to recap episode five
of season nineteen of the Real Housewives of Oorts County.
And look, I've been having such a good time with
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her and she has been such a gem. Why not
invite her back? You guys are loving her. I love
her the most. Give it up for the beautiful Alexis
Bellino back again.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Like it or not?
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Hi, I like we like it.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
The ray Drops are loving you. I hope you've been
having as much fun with me as I have it
with you.
Speaker 4 (01:14):
Girl, Carlos, I would never have invited you to my
wedding if we weren't having fun all the time.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
So yeah, it doesn't matter if we're at a party
or we're here, you're fun everywhere.
Speaker 4 (01:24):
So yeah, yeah, And guess what if I was wearing
an ugly outfit, you'd say, I think maybe you should,
you know, step it up a little.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
I know that about you that I.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
Like the Yes, that's totally beat, that's totally beat.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
Well, look, as we get started, I gotta ask you
the million dollar question.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
Okay, do you have a fatty photo somewhere?
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Oh my, you're going there.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
You know, it's the topic of the episode.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
I know you're right, You're right.
Speaker 4 (02:03):
I I do fluctuate sometimes.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
I think five at the most pounds.
Speaker 4 (02:08):
I don't have a photo of me super super heavy.
I think here's the thing, here's the thing I wanted
to make clear. I'm glad you brought this up. Every woman,
as stick thin as you could be, can take the
wrong pose at the wrong angle, or your arms like
in the road, and you could look twenty pounds heavier
than you really are, or ten pounds or five pounds.
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So yeah, I'm sure there's there's some out there. But
I my weight doesn't flexuate because I just I don't know.
I mean five pounds, it does five to ten pounds,
five never ten.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
But I don't think that it's.
Speaker 4 (02:42):
Something where it's like that could have just been a
bad angle to be honest.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
Yeah, I mean, look, I feel like we all have one. Look,
Alexis I got one? You see?
Speaker 2 (02:56):
Okay, that doesn't look bad to me, Carlos, but look
at the house. Okay, show me your abs now? Oh okay?
Speaker 4 (03:07):
Oh okay, Well you didn't prep me, see we don't.
We don't talk before these You didn't prep me to
go find the worst photo I have of my ads.
I would show you after Memorial Day weekend or something
like that and show you the way I look.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Okay, you didn't give me that.
Speaker 4 (03:22):
Yeah, can you give me a little bit of advice
when we're going to do this episode from now on?
Speaker 3 (03:27):
I want to.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
That isn't okay? So wait is that you? Now?
Speaker 3 (03:35):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (03:37):
Okay, hatty p Tati? Holy okay, you have a six pack?
What you've been eating?
Speaker 1 (03:44):
Well, you know I'm planning based, so I eat lots
of grease kanewah to.
Speaker 4 (03:50):
So you are hold on, I know we have to
get into the episode, but you so you are vegan?
Speaker 3 (03:55):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (03:57):
Wow? And is that medical or is that just you
just decided to.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
No, it's all vanity it's all vanity. I'm vain.
Speaker 4 (04:05):
So you think meat causes because there's traders that think
it doesn't. But you think meat causes you to be heavier,
and the greens keep you.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
And the vegetables keep you lean and mean and mean machine.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
Yeah, I feel like greens keep you lean and meat
keeps you meat these so I am very much a
lean cuisine.
Speaker 4 (04:28):
Well, I'm known as the rabbit because I eat mostly vegetables.
I want a salad or some veggies. I'll order the
asparagus even though it makes your peace snank. I don't care.
I will order the asparagus with my own seasonings and
maybe some parmesan doesn't matter. So maybe that's why I
don't gain a ton of weight here and there. I
also don't like sweet anymore in my older age. But yeah, okay,
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we have to dig in.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
I know, we okay, so we have to say again,
so listen see we First of all, I thought this
episode was super fun. I laughed a lot watching the episode,
so I thought it was a fun. Well, but what
wasn't fun is this. You know, listen, there's a storyline
that they continue this episode of Tamera alleging that you know,
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Jen wants to be her and showing a photo of
Jen where she was heavier than she is now.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
The cast called it.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
The fatty photo, and Jim looked visibly upset by it.
She's like, who walks around? Like and does that? Did
you think it was mean?
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Wait?
Speaker 4 (05:39):
When you say Jen walks around saying who does that?
Speaker 2 (05:44):
You mean who does the photo?
Speaker 3 (05:46):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (05:47):
Because because here's the problem. Jen was in the photo
with her. They were taking the photo together. It was
a photo of you saw the photo, It was a
photo of all of them together.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
Jen was not happy that Tamara decided to send it
to people and show it to people.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
Did you think that was sending it me spaed it?
Speaker 4 (06:05):
Yeah, well I definitely wouldn't start showing that to people.
I don't know what that was, but I think at
the point, I'm not sure, I don't know, okay, but
I feel like maybe at that point, here's the thing.
I think Gin's up to here with Tamar, and I
think Tamar's up here with Jen. I don't know how
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we're ever going to make this a Kumbaya moment, which
we all want, right, we all want, we all want
the reconciliation part of it. I think at that moment
watching that, I was like, Tamar is completely fed up,
thinks that Jen did really want to turn into her
and become her. So she's showing the photo of when
they met and then that I don't know what I mean,
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how else do you explain it?
Speaker 2 (06:49):
I don't.
Speaker 4 (06:50):
I honestly know that Tamar doesn't have a n bone
in her body like that. But I do think it
was not okay to show it. I will be honest,
I don't think it was okay to see it, And I'm
sure would you would you show that photo if you
were in Tamor's position.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
Well, that's the thing, listen, I think I agree with
you right in the sense of look showing the photo
to insinuate someone's weight. If that's what she was doing,
then that's not okay, right.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
Based on what I've.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
Heard from Tamora on the show prior to that, was
how she really thinks this woman has transformed herself into
how into what Tamer feels right Like. I think that's
the difference that I'm seeing, and I think you agree
with that. To Alexis, I think Tamar was saying this
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woman transformed herself into looking like me is the before
and after of it all.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
That's what I got from.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
It, And here's that's what I got from you.
Speaker 4 (07:54):
And here's what I'm as an outsider I'm saying, is Okay,
I can see both sides.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
Care's why I can see.
Speaker 4 (08:01):
Where Tamra would think this girl's trying to be me.
I can see also Jen wanting to Tamra has. Let's
be real, Tamra has like seven things. Now we've watched
the season a little bit more, We've seen like four
episodes or three episodes for Tamar has all this evidence.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
Of Jen did this and does this, and does this
and does.
Speaker 4 (08:18):
This, and now it's like, Okay, I can kind of
see that side. However, there's also the side of if
someone sees a photo of them or is like I
just want to be better. I want to be leaner,
I want to have longer hair, I want to have
better skin.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
We can't judge for that either.
Speaker 4 (08:36):
It's like, that's why I'm so caught in the like
this like the middle and a vortext because it's like,
I don't think either of them are really trying to.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
Be I don't I think they both have Okay, let
me see it.
Speaker 4 (08:48):
This way, I think they both have a good position
for where they stand. I think Tamarra has a good
point and Jen has a good point. And that's the
rot why this makes this this argument so like monumental,
like it's a big deal and I don't know where's
it going to go from here.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
I mean, that's why it's juicy. Okay. And by the way, yeah,
big jam Or hadn't shown that photo.
Speaker 4 (09:17):
I mean that photo is creating the entire storyline once
again right now, Like I don't know, she kind of carries.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
The story, she moves everything forward. I don't agree with it.
I'm letting you know right now, I am telling you
I don't agree with it.
Speaker 4 (09:30):
She ever showed the photo. However, here we are and
I can see both sides of them.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, No, I agree.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
And it's interesting too because I felt like when Gina
was talking to Heather about it, Heather was sort of like, look,
I think she did it for these reasons. And instantly
they're like, Heather is scared of camera. This is your
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friend group. I don't know them as well as you do.
Do you think Heather is scared of Tamera?
Speaker 2 (10:09):
No, No, Heather is not scared of Tamra.
Speaker 4 (10:12):
No, I think I think Heather has her own viewpoints.
I don't think Heather is scared of Tamla. I think
it's it's this is a sticky situation because Tamara had
does have six or seven valid points about why Jin
is looking like she's uh, you know, seeing a white
female Jin.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
Also, it's like this is worn pony.
Speaker 4 (10:34):
I'm just trying to be a better person, like look better,
be better, feel better kind of thing.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
That's that's the wash, and that's the truth of it.
Speaker 4 (10:42):
Like, I don't think at all that Heather is scared
of Camela. I don't think anyone I was just tell you,
I will tell you. I think Heather is afraid of
having enemies. I think Heather has such a soft soul
that she doesn't want to have anyone mad at her
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or like I feel like she plays Switzerland a lot,
like doesn't have a lot of a huge backbone in
certain areas. But Heather is not scared of people. So
what That's that's how I feel. And I love Heather,
She's one of my good friends. I love her so
but that's how I mean. I think we can see
that through the show and through the season.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
You know, yeah, Aubrey, I don't think Heather is afraid
of anybody. I think Heather has based on what I've
seen from Heather on the years she's been on She's
a tough woman and she's.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
Never shied the way from stating her opinion. I'll be
a popular or not.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
I feel like Heather stands in her beliefs, in her convictions.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
I don't think for a second she's got a tamera.
I think when.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
It comes to Heather, she owns who she is and
she's not trying to ever follow the majority boat. I
just don't see her as the type of woman.
Speaker 4 (12:07):
I agree. I one hundred percent agree. I think she
does stand her ground, but I.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
Do feel like to keep I feel like she's kind
of the peace. She tries to be a little bit
of the peacemaker.
Speaker 4 (12:20):
There are times I feel like she could have one
side more than the other where she I feel like she.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
Kind of goes a little in the middle. But that's
just me and I have filmed with her, so yeah.
Speaker 4 (12:33):
I mean, I sat by her at the reunion in
last season eighteen, and she did not stick up for me.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
When everyone's yelling at me and we have already talked
about this, we have smashed this, we have done this.
It's done.
Speaker 4 (12:43):
But you know, she was right there where she could
have simply said, guys, let her like this talk and
so so I just think she sometimes she wants to
be the peacemaker.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
I didn't think about that because I remember you and
I spoke about that too, and I felt the same
way at last year's reunion when it came to I
felt like it was a pile of shit just dumped
on you, and I'm like, why is it anyone defending election?
Speaker 2 (13:13):
So it wasn't a pile of shit dumped on me.
Speaker 4 (13:15):
It was Emily yelling and not letting me speak, and
so it was it was just her loud mouth and
then Heather was stuck in the middle. So it was
But that's okay. Look, I don't want to talk about
the past. We got to talk about this episode. So
it was juicy and good and I think next episode, Okay,
the trailer for next episode.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
I'm like, oh, hey, gosh, I can't wait to see it.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
But no, it's good.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
Yeah, yeah, it's good.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
This is reality with the King, and I'm Carlos King.
Let's get back into the show. So what I love
about Gina is listen, I'm proud of Gina, her sobriety.
I'm happy that she is killing it in real estate.
So she's hosting this event and she surprises the girls
with the New Orleans trip, and then you visibly see
(14:01):
Tamra not excited to go, and that's when we learned
that this is the start of what has been you know,
out there in social media world about how Tamra left
the cast trip early and she announced I believe on.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
Social media that she quit.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
So what we what we saw in this episode, Alexis,
was Tamra talking about her lack of enthusiasm going to
New Orleans because it's the same location that her best
friend and fellow podcast host Teddy Mellencamp felled down marble
(14:43):
stairs as she's going through cancer and getting humors removed.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
And I'm just like.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
It's it's it's it's fascinating to watch all of this
unfolding real time because you I saw camera personality change
instantly when Gina announced New Orleans. And I know a
lot of people are like, oh, Tom's making excuses, but
I feel like that was to me, that moment was
(15:15):
so pivotal that she really is dealing with some heavy
shit at this current time of filming.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
It. You can see it. And this is the thing.
Speaker 4 (15:28):
Tamra doesn't cry on camera about personal things, like not
deep of a personal thing because she doesn't like to
go there.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
I can tell it. I can see it. Even in
the seasons that we've watched before, she'll cry about things
that are in the moment that she's ticked off about
or this, and that she doesn't go deep.
Speaker 4 (15:46):
That's what she's in therapy for. I feel like right
now it's trying to dig deep, right, like get to
the deeper roots. But she doesn't typically cry about something
that's so close and personal. And I think she was
still at that moment back at that time, it was
all true new. I don't even think camera could even
function like knowing, okay, what's happening right now, Like I'm
(16:08):
barely being able to film.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
I don't know my best friend. I don't know if
she's you know, what's happening, what's her what's her diagnosis?
But so it was.
Speaker 4 (16:17):
That's the thing with the camera is a raw and
it can capture the real moment. It can also tell
when you're faking it. Fake crying is very apparent. Real
crying and real emotion is very apparent.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
So I feel like that.
Speaker 4 (16:33):
Was one of the moments that you can look and go,
holy hat, she's hurting like bad right now.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
No, it's just to like hear what Teddy is going through,
what happened.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
To her, how the fall really you know, did a
did her confidence that she was rebuilding after going through this.
It was just it was very sad to to to
just hear that and then to have to visualize how
that moment must have felt for for Tamera being triggered
(17:10):
by the thoughts of New Orleans. But look, it's the
beauty of the show when you get to follow stuff
in real time. Speaking of beauty, following Ran in the
gym full time, it's my idea of a great night.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
Alexis, I'm just.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
Okay, what do you mean following Ryan Jen's husband? Yeah,
I'm confused. So you want to just you want to
just go back to more gem scenes and follow him.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
That's it.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
Give me that spin off, Bravo, What do you think?
What are you guys talking about? Give me that spinoff?
You can add Eddie there at John Like, that's my
type of seed. Give me Ryan working out please every
day of the week.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
Well, like you mentioned, I mean.
Speaker 4 (17:55):
You mentioned at the beginning of this episode or just
when we first start talking about this episode, you mentioned
that you liked that it was lighter and there were
some fun There was a lot more like some of
the home Wife, some of the gym wipe, some of
the other life and the whole episode, which I enjoyed
because the quirkiness and the fun stuff that you see
(18:16):
behind a couple or two friends. That's draw and not
just you know, more of the let's get into the
heart of it all.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
It's really actually cool and I thought it was fun.
Speaker 4 (18:26):
I think it's cool to see how people interact and
couples interact and you can relate and you're.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
Like, oh we do that or oh that was odd,
you know, like either way, it's just so fun.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
Yeah, yeah, No, I really really enjoyed it. And like
you said, getting deeper in this episode versus like the
girl and Girl drama to hear Jan talk about what
she's going through in her situation with her ex husband,
how she was awarded child support.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
She mentioned how she was also awarded never paid.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
She told Jeff Lewis is actually two hundred thousand dollars
that is ow to her.
Speaker 3 (19:06):
She has not seen a dime.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
That was wild to me, Like, how is he able
to get away with that if it was the judgment
in court that he has to pay.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
I don't I honestly don't know. It's actually bizarre.
Speaker 4 (19:23):
And also props like and by the way, there should
be something that is done about that because of the
judgment of the court.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
She's got most of the kids most of the time.
She needs some help.
Speaker 4 (19:33):
But props to Ryan for actually taking these kids under
his wing and just saying okay, look, but how embarrassing
for the dad that didn't isn't paying Like now the
stepdad or the boyfriend their fanced but like, okay, now
the boyfriend's.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
Paying for all the kids when the dad should be.
Speaker 4 (19:52):
But I mean, why don't we know if he has
like some you know issue, Well, he's not on the
cat so we won't know, but he might have financial problems.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (20:04):
But all I know is it's embarrassing the other fatherers
taking care of your children when you're well capable of it.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
In the judgments, you're spots too.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
No listen, Ryan is great because he's not married to
Jin just yet. He had his girlfriend with his fiance
and her children move into his home. I listen, I
understand why Ryan felt the need of Alexis to confront
(20:37):
Jim's ex husband to really ask about, like where's the money?
Because I think it Ry's defense is a man to
man conversation and the fact that his children, you know,
Jen's and his.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
Child or residing in Ryan's house. They're residing Arian's house.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
It's like, it's it's crazy, It's crazy. I don't I
thought it was a great thing that he confront of him.
Speaker 3 (21:03):
What did you think?
Speaker 4 (21:05):
I'm I'm kind of mixed about that, honestly, coming from
a broken family, I think it's I think it's hard
because you just don't know what's going to be the
right thing to do, right Carlos, because he is supporting
the kids. Ryan is supporting the kids most of the time.
They are living in his home most of the time.
(21:26):
I don't even know what the what the agreement is.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
So it's hard, and I don't know that a.
Speaker 4 (21:36):
Man to man conversation is the right way to handle it,
because then that, you know, does set Gin back ten steps,
like she said, and she's just trying to keep the peace.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
But maybe it's the one thing that'll work.
Speaker 4 (21:48):
Maybe it's the one thing that'll get will isn't it
will to actually step up a little, you know, I
don't know.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
It's hard because I'm from a broken pain.
Speaker 4 (22:00):
So it's like I can see I can see the
that Ryan was doing it and all, you know, wanted to.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
Do it to help the situation. And then I can
see where Jenna is like, that's just hurt the situation.
I can see both sides.
Speaker 3 (22:16):
Okay, No, that's fair.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
I can't be black and white.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
No, that's fair.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
That's fair because at the end of the day, if
something goes awry, like Jen said, the ex would allegedly
use that to punish her, which is not okay.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
Right, And that's the sticky part to it.
Speaker 1 (22:41):
No, that makes sense that yeah, yeah, yeah, no, it was.
It was tough to hear. The other thing, though, alexis
as we're diving to the deep personal stories. The other
thing that was tough to hear is what Gina and
Travis are going through as it relates to traps ex, who.
Speaker 3 (23:02):
Is allegedly.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
Not allowing Travis to see his son because Travis is
dealing with Gina and how he's not even the son
isn't even going to school like this.
Speaker 3 (23:22):
This is mind boggling to me that.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
This happens, the fact that a parent would do that.
Speaker 4 (23:33):
It's scary because the court system can't keep up with
all of it. There's so many, Like I do feel
a court tries to make it fair and equal for everyone,
and there's just so many divorced families, and.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
It's like, how how do they keep up? I don't know.
Speaker 4 (23:51):
That's why you have to work really hard to keep
you know, some kind of an agreement so it doesn't
go to court.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
And and and the fact is, where does Travis go?
How does he get any help? You can't. It's like
you just don't get the sun. I mean, you can
call the cops, you know, you couldn't.
Speaker 4 (24:09):
There are certain things you can do, but then the
cops do come and they'll be like, sorry, I can't
help you right now, Like you know, this is a
court situation. It's just it's so bizarre. And I don't
want to say the court system is broken, but in
the family court of law, I do feel like it
might be a little broken. I feel so bad for
so many families, and there's so many emotions and so,
(24:33):
you know, especially when children can't speak their mind or
really have you know, I think it's like twelve or
fourteen so they can actually say, you know, before the
court will actually listen to them.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
So yeah, it's hard.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
Yeah. No, that made me sad to hear that.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
And then the fact that the ex wife is calling
Gina's son.
Speaker 4 (24:55):
Fuck and involving the children. Okay, okay, you got to
keep gives out of it. It's between the adults here,
you know.
Speaker 3 (25:06):
I I my my mind boggled with that.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
I agree.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
The cast then goes to New Orleans and listen. I
love it when the cast goes on a trip. I
feel like you're going to get a double dose of
fun and drama.
Speaker 3 (25:23):
So listen.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
I enjoyed them getting ready for it. Shannon showed what
she was working with between her legs.
Speaker 3 (25:33):
You know, I was shocked. I was shocked.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
That shocked me.
Speaker 3 (25:40):
I thought she was like so conservative.
Speaker 4 (25:44):
Yeah, I'm not gonna I have lost her name for
my vocabulary, thank you, thankfully.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
Like now it's like we're done.
Speaker 3 (25:51):
I will okay.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
I think people are starting to seed the truth.
Speaker 3 (25:56):
Okay, Alexis. There's certain things you can.
Speaker 4 (26:03):
Give any advice or any I'm sorry, you can give
any input.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
You want to on that. I am going to muzzle Okay.
Speaker 3 (26:13):
I'll left it.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
I wish I wish the dress was muzzled like that
is something that I just I just do not. I
don't want to see that. I just and and and
she was gleefully showing it. I'm like, this ain't the
love hotel.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
I don't know who you're trying to secure by showing your.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
I will say that she's sitting there going no, No,
nobody wants to date. And it's like, okay, well it's
clear why why they don't, Like.
Speaker 4 (26:41):
No one wants to hear and see those kind of
things like they wouldn't if you're gonna act class even
be classy, like don't just at it like.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
Okay, that's all I'm gonna say. I told you I'm
not gonna die jokes. No, I no listen, no listen
mine right now? You ready.
Speaker 3 (27:03):
To me? Sister?
Speaker 2 (27:06):
You would you would click, honey, you know what you
would do. You would click that button? So bad done? Okay,
podcasts over the world.
Speaker 3 (27:13):
For the night in recording that you.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
Listen honey, you're about to get married, so clearly you
know how to use what you got, so let's just
keep it there.
Speaker 3 (27:26):
But well, it's funny because I.
Speaker 4 (27:32):
Mean John and I have not because yeah we're yeah, okay,
we learned, you know, let that from last event.
Speaker 3 (27:38):
We'll move on, do you guys? Okay, what.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
What are the topics the Alexis were if aie was
ever made a sex video?
Speaker 2 (27:50):
You need a drink for this. Drink water. It's a
bottle of water, mylet.
Speaker 4 (27:56):
People can't see and I'm like, I neither drink and
I'm like, okay, having a martini over here.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
Okay, So alex Is, what what are your thoughts all
like couples making sex videos?
Speaker 4 (28:10):
Well, I think if you're in a loving relationship, and
you are, you know, here's the fear that I would
always have, because now it's my third marriage, would be
what if that gets out? What if then it's like, okay,
you something goes awry. It's like okay, now what But
(28:31):
they's just out there, you know. I think it's great.
It can be a lot of fun for a couple.
I just feel like it's a little scary, you know,
because I'm getting married to John right now, So.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
Yeah, what do you think have you done it? Carlos haven't. Yeah,
you're pleading to that.
Speaker 3 (29:04):
There is nothing recorded.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
Listen you know how like when you're listen with cell
phone with cell phones, Verse came.
Speaker 3 (29:11):
Out and you were like trying to.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
Cell phones came.
Speaker 4 (29:18):
Out, You're trying to what videos like you were oh
and then it dropped or what what?
Speaker 2 (29:24):
I don't know where you're going.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
No, you're just like you're having fun, you're in love,
you're having fun, and you test your shit out. But
then but then I'm like you Alexis, I was like,
wait a second. I immediately was like this is getting
deleted the moment, like the.
Speaker 3 (29:40):
Action is done. I just I'm not. I'm not. I
don't need anything saved.
Speaker 4 (29:47):
Well yeah, or if it gets out, that's the problem
you have to That's what I worry about.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
What these people, you know, that's the scary thing.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
It's okay, No, people are crazy and.
Speaker 3 (30:01):
Exes are not as graceful these days.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
What does that mean.
Speaker 3 (30:13):
If they're mad at you build.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
Engines? Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's that you're it's
at yours. It's right there at your hand. You can
do it. You know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (30:25):
Before it was you had to have the big old device,
the big cam quorder that you're like, okay, let me
try to how do you do that?
Speaker 2 (30:31):
Like a phone?
Speaker 4 (30:32):
It's like, okay, it's more discreet, like you know it
was before we had the rep the Flintstone age, you know,
like okay, here.
Speaker 3 (30:39):
Yes, yes, exactly. So I'm glad.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
Look, I'm glad that time my life is over now.
One thing that I thought was a funny revelation have
a Debro revealed that Terry Debro where its lift shoes, obsessed, obsessed.
Speaker 4 (31:05):
Okay, And I think it's phenomenal too because I think
most people know it. You can kind of tell when
he was, you know, out in about or whatever. But
I think it's awesome that it's self revealing. That I'm
not duprecating because it's on him, not her, but you know,
it's just being so lulnerable and honest. It's like, look, okay,
(31:26):
who cares he wants to gain an entry or two?
Speaker 2 (31:28):
Okay, what's the problem with that? No body deal. He
still looks great, they're happily married. It does not matter.
It's like okay, but yeah, awesome. And she's like I
love the comment where she's like they probably cost more
than a house or something. I forget when it was
like something like that his shoes. We won't be buying
another pair of those anything.
Speaker 3 (31:49):
So yeah, no, not any time soon.
Speaker 1 (31:51):
But it made me think, like, I mean, because I'm
like five nine a half, and because John is how
John is like what six to two?
Speaker 2 (32:01):
Yeah? You tall? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (32:04):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (32:05):
I and Tina peck and still hot as f So
there you go. But anyway, yeah, he doesn't need shoes.
He didn't need a lift in anything. Okay, But so
you're I do want some, I know what, but you
don't think five nine and a half you feel like
you want to be a little taller. I'll text Terry
and ask him where he gets them. Maybe it's a
(32:25):
Christmas present. We'll get it for you for Christmas, Okay,
Heather and I'll go in on it together, all right.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
Yeah, so you think it would feel good to feel
five to ten?
Speaker 3 (32:40):
Ah? For sure? All for sure? For sure? Because this
is things everyone likes a tall man.
Speaker 4 (32:48):
I think that I don't think hype matters. I think
that it's about the heart and about everything else. I mean,
it's weird because I usually am with taller men because
I'm five seven, though, Carlos, It's like, what what short
guys even gonna think I'm hot?
Speaker 2 (33:01):
You know, Like it's like I'm like too tall for everyone.
It's shorter, you know, so they're like, oh, Jero too tall,
you know. So no, it's yeah, I can see it. Okay,
let's get you some list, honey.
Speaker 1 (33:15):
Yes, almost, almost some lifts, but no. After I watched
this episode, I thought of you, Alexis, because I know
in our conversations you always talked about like how you
know you like it when the shows are fun, you
like it when the show's get personal story. I thought
this was the first episode the season where I enjoyed
(33:36):
them having fun and to be laughing at like broken vaginas,
like the joke of that with Jen having public surgery.
Like I thought all of that to me was a
solid episode of like getting back to like them enjoying
each other having fun.
Speaker 3 (33:54):
Did you feel the same way watching it too? I did?
Speaker 2 (33:57):
I was.
Speaker 4 (33:58):
I loved I mean just because some times it's fun
to kind of chuckle, you know, even if it's not
something you can relate to, It's like it just fun
to chuckle and see how other people live their lives.
That's what I think is good about all of the
reality TV is just like, Okay, you can watch how
someone lives their life, because when you're in your own life,
(34:18):
it is so a lot.
Speaker 2 (34:19):
Okay, it's a lot.
Speaker 4 (34:21):
And then you can go, oh, well they're kind of
dorky in that way, or oh they argue about that,
it just it just puts you. Or you can go, oh,
maybe that's a better tool I can use for the
next argument, or oh that was funny.
Speaker 2 (34:35):
I want to make that joke with my husband. I
don't know.
Speaker 4 (34:38):
I love the I love the day to day I do,
and I know they can't do too much of it
because they've loved the audience.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
I know that.
Speaker 4 (34:45):
You know that as a producer for twenty years in
this industry. However, it is fun to have a little
bit of an in it. The Carlos quite tell you something.
I think after watching that next preview for next week,
I think that there's a set up.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
I think they're getting ready.
Speaker 4 (35:01):
We're like, Okay, let's give them a little bit of
fun because they don't get hot head down next week.
Speaker 2 (35:06):
Yeah that was all about I.
Speaker 3 (35:15):
Agree with you. They're like motherfuckers enjoy this while you can't.
Speaker 1 (35:20):
This is the last fun episode you're going to get
because the ship is about to hit the fan next week.
I mean, Gretchen, Tamera, Katie Shannon, like, everybody's getting into
it next week.
Speaker 3 (35:35):
So look, one thing we know about this cast trips.
It breaks out the drama.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
And when they said twenty four hours later, it looks
like they are not going to disappoint in that department.
So Alexis you have to come back next week to
talk about that. It's going to be insane.
Speaker 4 (35:54):
And I think that's the rest of the seasons unity
in same Like you see the trailer, you know, it
all goes.
Speaker 2 (36:02):
It's like it's like that's why they're giving us this
little bit of It's like here's a piece of cotton candy.
Here take a cotton candy stick, and now we're going
into the mud. You're going into the mud for the
next three episodes, the guy or four I don't know
how many, Oh.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
Gosh, I don't know how many, but at least three
or four we have to I don't even know what
episode we're on.
Speaker 2 (36:23):
What is this one?
Speaker 1 (36:24):
It's episode five? So so the episode five were talking about,
we have.
Speaker 2 (36:29):
At least five.
Speaker 1 (36:30):
Yeah, yeah, no, it's going to be crazy and it's
we also heard in the in the coming attractions, that's
when Tamer quits the show and we get to see
what led her to do that, and listen. I can't
wait to see it. I can't wait to recap that
with you, Alexis. Thank you so much, my sweet dear,
(36:53):
for taking time out of your busy, busy, busy busy
evening for us. It's a late one for us, but
thank you so much for joining me. Enjoy your soon
to be hobby and the family, and I'll catch you
on the next one, my love.
Speaker 2 (37:10):
Okay, last, We'll see you later, guys. Bye.
Speaker 1 (37:16):
Reality with the King is executive produced by me Carlos King,
produced by Lizzie Nimitz, and a partnership.
Speaker 3 (37:24):
With the Lack Effect Network.
Speaker 1 (37:27):
You can also find us on my YouTube channel at
the Carlos King Underscore
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