July 25, 2025 • 26 mins
Happy Late Birthday, Heather! Reigndrops, it’s #RHOC recap day, and no matter how late the invite, these ladies never miss a party. Where does Carlos stand on cast members recording each other? Well, he is pulling out past season receipts. AND Carlos gets into the enigma of Katie. Is she really THAT evil?
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Reality with the King is hosted by me, Carlos King.
I'm an executive producer who have produced some of your
favorite shows from the Real Housewives in Atlanta, New Jersey
and my own creation, The Love and Marriage Franchise and
Bell Collective. Every episode we recap reality television from the
Real Housewives Franchise to The Bachelor or Selling Sunset, in
(00:27):
addition to celebrity guests, whether in the unscripted space or
scripted as well. Hey, brain drops, for today's episode of
Reality with the King, we have to get into the
Katie show. Look, I love all the girls and all
the girls love me, but we must dissect the fact
(00:48):
that Katie is carrying this show on her back. So far,
so far, it's still early in the season, but this
episode I really enjoyed. This season is definitely getting hot,
so let's just get right into it now. Heath of
de Bro, who was born on January fifth, honey, not
(01:12):
January sixth, shot to Vicky govisent. That was a joke
because Teddy Mellencamp did ask Vicky goversand where she was
(01:33):
on January sixth, So have a sense of humor, rain drops. Okay,
this is not a political podcast. This is one of unfiltered,
unscripted conversations. Okay, So on January fifth, one day before
the insurrection, half of the bro was born. She was
(02:01):
born Meani Meanie Meanie meenie many years before that child. Okay, fine,
let's let's move on from it. So Heather debro Is
during herself a birthday party forty days and forty nights
after her actual birthday. Okay, child, because she told you,
Brokie's look y'all spent all of your unlimited funds in
(02:22):
the savings account on Christmas gifts and New Year's Okay,
and when it's my birthday on the fifth, I want
a Disneyland type of extravaganza. No, not the one with
the Papa ARROSSI caught me and Teddy take Abab Paul
(02:42):
giving each other a PDA. Not that one, child, I'm
talking about the one where I need gifts to Okay.
So instead of keeping it on her actual birthday, she
decided to do it a month later. There we go,
all right. So with that being said, she met with
(03:05):
Shannon and Jen and said to them, look, I'm throwing
a birthday party a month later after my birthday, but
I want to invite the husband. I did speak to Tamra,
and Tamar said, because Ryan and Jen are coming, she
doesn't feel comfortable being there, and on top of that,
(03:28):
she was instructed by her attorney that it is in
her best interest not to attend. Jen freaked out because,
as we all know, I'll give you out the quick
snapshot of the story, Jen's boyfriend, the handsome Ryan child
(03:52):
saving private Ryan Honey was accused of things that apparently
turned out not to be really true. I'm not going
to get to the weeds of it google a child,
but Tamar made a statement about the FBI raiding the
(04:12):
home something of that regards there were allegations that they
were going to sue her. Tamra apologized and said that
you know, she regretted saying it what I found out
this episode because I didn't know this unless you guys did.
I didn't know that Jen and Ryan had to pay
(04:40):
a lot of money and attorney fees to dispute that,
because from what I understand, while there were rumors and
encouragement for Ryan to sue Tamar, he never foiled a
lawsuit against her. So that's why I was confus When
Jen said, well, we spent so much money on attorney
(05:03):
fees because I'm like, but Ryan never filed a laws
suit against Tamera. So I know that attorneys charged you
for a consultation, but how many minutes or hours did
y'all speak to the attorneys to where it accumulated so
much money? That was confusing to me. What I do
know is Ryan supposedly did issue a cease and desist
(05:27):
letter to Tamra that does cost money, okay, to her
after she made statements that he felt were false and damaging. Allegedly, Vicky,
the former og to the OC, had initially encouraged Ryan
(05:50):
to sue. That's alleged that was according to reality T.
It is not according to reality but the king. But
according to reality T, allegedly they're saying Vicky encouraged Ryan
to do it, referencing when another lawsuit occurred, which is
(06:10):
why I was happy to see Timor apologize. But Ryan's
legal action did stop. So look, when it comes to
reality television, what's so interesting is because you're on a
reality show, you can say pretty much what you want
(06:33):
to about a person. That's a clause in your agreements, right,
So rain drops know that in your agreements you can
pretty much say what you want to say about a person,
because on a lot of these shows, when you yell
out wild accusation, it is you're defaming them. But because
(06:57):
it's reality television, it's all my part for the course,
that's that's what happens. Unfortunately, right, would you just say
anything whatever? I do believe? Because Ryan, technically it is
not a cast member. That's probably why he was able
to send a cease and desist and possibly excuse me
(07:18):
decide to do it. But look, I don't like it
when things get legal because I don't want to watch
these shows as if Judge Judy and her bailiff is
going to appear alongside the other attorney on the show,
Honey Emily. Okay, I don't the judge Emily Honey and
her gavel to represent Tamera or Jin in any situation.
(07:43):
I don't like it when things become legal. I just
think for me, it takes the fun out of what
we're watching, and I don't think it's fun. But Ryan
did feel that Tamar's statements on the show were damaging
to his reputation and career, but once again, Tamra did apologize,
(08:05):
So hopefully what we'll see this season is a conversation
between those two about what happened in an effort to
move forward because I don't want to see things get
dark now. What we did see is Heather and Tamra
(08:25):
talking about this situation, and Heaven did say that based
on what Tamra is going through, which is watching her
best friend Teddy Mellencamp go through this cancer journey, having
to have multiple surgeries is devastating to her emotionally, tamar
did emote that she goes down the rabbit hole of
(08:49):
the photos between her and Teddy or just Teddy, you know,
in general, because she misses her and she wants to
make sure or that her best friend obviously survives this,
and while she's hopeful that she will, it is still
something in the back of her mind in terms of
what if she doesn't. And that's when Heather decided to
(09:11):
approm all of us that she is seeing a different
side of Tamra. She's seeing growth, and she is seeing
somebody that is way more balanced than what we see.
And based on these few episodes, I will say we
haven't seen Tamarra and her typical villain era because Katie
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decided to take the baton twirling and enter Shannon space.
We'll get to that later in the episode. So my
heart goes out to Tamara. Obviously, my heart goes out
to Gin. Two things can be true, right, Two things
can be true When someone makes an accusation that you
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feel like is going to ruin your reputation, that's not
okay at all. And I understand the grievances that Ryan
and Jen have because it is an emotional turmoil to
deal with that. So I definitely understand where Jen's coming from.
I also understand where Tamra's attorney is coming from when
(10:19):
he says, I don't want you around them, well, particularly
specifically Ryan, because look, when you poke Tamra, Tamra's liable
to go off of you and may say things she regrets.
Ryan is the same way you poke Ryan, Honey, Ryan
(10:40):
is liable to go after you and say things that
he may regret. So I understand the attorneys saying I
just don't trust you two to be in the same
room because if one of you guys poke, the other
things can be said that will cause things to take
a severe legal action. And that's the last thing that
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we want to see, at least for me, I don't
want to see that. I want to see Ryan getting
a tan, Honey. I want to see Ryan goes shopping
at Tommy Bahama, Honey for some shorts, okay, at a
tank top. I'm just saying that's what I want to see.
I ain't trying to see anything lego, not at all,
(11:26):
Not at all. This is reality with the King, and
I'm Carlos King. Let's get back into the show. But
one thing that I was very happy to see, Honey
is Shanna ba door checking Katie so at heav is
the bro party. Katie and Shannon finally have a one
(11:49):
on one and this is where we learned that. And Katie,
I've been trying my best to see your side of things,
but you make it hard for me to not call
you Katie b Lyon. You have taken the trophy away
(12:09):
from me. A pro potomac, Katie, you are a liar,
liar pants on fire. And it's so evident because once
you're confronted with something in real time, you look like
Bambi Deer in the headlights and you don't have words
until you go home and you recite everything in your
(12:34):
mind and you come up with a storyline and and
and lies girl, okay, and excuse this? Then you want
to bring it back to them saying, oh, by the way,
you know, yes, I found the DM. I did call
her like girl. You knew that last week. So this
week Shannon clocked it once. Katie said to her, well,
(12:58):
I text you apologizing, and Shanna's like you text me
and was making excuses for your actions. And that's the
problem that I'm having with Katie. Why does it take
three business days for your brain to work to where
(13:22):
the memory chip is activated and you're able to compute
words that you use your manicured fingers and your samsunk
android okay girl, maybe an iPhone sixteen and you text
all of a sudden your memory worked, what are we doing?
(13:44):
And makes those sens to me? Katie makes those sys
to me and my friend Alexis Menlino came on last week,
was a great episode. Listened to I Love Me some
Alexis and she said, Carlos, I know you're heard on Katie,
but you know, I don't think she's a let'ious person.
And I trust Alexa's opinion, but the problem is I'm
(14:06):
not seeing on the show what Alexis knows in real life.
And that's why I'm having a hard time digesting Katie
because I find her. I find her to be an enigma.
I just I just don't get her. I don't get her.
(14:30):
I just but look, Katie, if you're listening, honey, come
on Reality with the King. Honey. I would love to
have you on because maybe I'm missing something and I
would love to give you the benefit of the doubt.
My doors are open to you. Kt to come on
the show, honey and be held not accomfortable, a caterable. Okay,
(14:54):
So moving on, Shannon is like, look, you recorded me
and that's illego. Now before y'all laugh, let's have a
real conversation. Okay. I want you guys to know this
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because I do my research. I am a journalist. Hey, Portiche. So,
as you all know, the show is taped in the
state of California. So while Katie and the rest of
the cast members were doing a photoshoot, Katie recorded Shannon's outburst.
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Alexis Blito confirmed last week that it wasn't a video,
it was audio only. Okay. So when Shannon tells Katie
what she did was illego, this is what she meant
by it. In the state of California, you generally cannot
record a conversation without the consent of all parties involved.
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California is a two party consent state, meaning that all
parties to a conversation must agree to be recorded. This
is based on the California Penal Code Section six thirty two,
which makes it illegal to record a confidential communication without
the consent of all parties. Now, granted, it wasn't like
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Katie and Shannon were talking and having their own conversation
that she recorded, so there is a loophole there. However,
Shannon isn't all the way wrong because recording somebody without
their consent is illegal in the state of California. So
that's what she meant by that. Now what we all
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know is, Shanna Badoor, you recorded Kelly Dodd video okay
audio in Ireland without Kelly Do's consent. Now this is
the gag of the Gaga gags. Once again. I'm a journalist,
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So here are the facts. In Ireland, you can generally
record conversations or phone calls if you are a party
to them, without needing to inform the other participants. This
is known as one party consent. Emily, I'm doing your
(17:37):
job as a lawyer. Okay. While it's not illegal to
record without informing the other parties, there can be legal
implications depending on the context of the recording and how
it's used. So Shannon legally recorded Kelly in Ireland because
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in Ireland it's a one party consent. So there you
have it. There you have it. There you have it.
Now Shannon did say watch what Happens Live When Andy
said to her, we a girl. They said, you recorded
Kelly Dodd. She said, Look, the producers tell us when
they're not around filming us to take out our phones
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and record so that they're able to use it in
case there's any big moments on their activities. And as
a producer, I can't confirm that's exactly what happens, that
does happen, because there's only a certain amount of time
of window, well window of tom excuse me, where the
(18:43):
crew is able to work after that window. If the
girls want to go out, the crew cannot go out
because they need to rest, eat and all these other things. Right,
So as producers, we do tell our cast, look, if
you see anything crazy or something big happens, recording on
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your phone. So that we can use it in the show.
And that's why in a lot of these shows where
they are out of the country or after hours, you
see more phone cam footage than camera footage. Okay, that's
what happened. Now. One thing Shannon also got right was
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when Katie was like, well, when I recorded you, I
was on a business call and you were acting out.
Once again, I'm with Shannon. If you are on a
business call, why not leave the room? Why not go
to your dressing room? Why not go to the bathroom.
If I'm on a business call and Shannon Bador is
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acting out, I'm not going to record her unless I'm
going to use it against her in the future. Let's
call it what it is. Allegedly Allegedly. Allegedly, there have
been conversations that Shannon does how outburst off camera. The
girls have said it, other another show has said a
(20:14):
child It has been said that Shannon has an outburst. Now, look,
that is very believable based on Shannon's behavior on the show,
because she will leave a room say take this effing
mic off of me, Like, that's what Shanna does, It's
what she does. So, in my opinion, what Katie wanted
(20:38):
to do was not only to record it and play
it for Tamra, which she did, and then Tamra told
Alexis Billina about it. Alexis cleared that up to on
the show. She wanted evidence in terms of how Shannon
acts off camera. That's that's exactly what I believe Katie
what's doing. And that's the reason why you say, See,
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Shannon's so fired up because she knows that you're trying
to embarrass me. And although I've had it with Tamra,
I've gotten into it with other people. They never recorded me,
but the only person who did was John when John
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recorded her the night of the Dui. And that's why
she said to her, look, I am worried about your
mental state and puts her in the same category as
John due to the recording. She also tells Kati, you
(21:44):
are the most evil person I've ever met. Now, Shannon, girl,
that's a stretch. Does your arm hurt? Is out the socket?
Where's your elbow? That was a stretch? Go to pilates, Boo, Katie,
being the most evil person you met is a stretch. Now, look,
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we all know what happened with your ex husband. I
am not calling David evil once again, I am not
calling David evil. I don't know him, so I'm not
going to use that word to describe him. But what
a lot of people do feel is cheating to them
when you're married. They do feel like that action is evil.
It's an evil action. It doesn't make you an evil
(22:30):
person for most people, but a lot of people do
think cheating while you're married is an evil action they do,
which is why for me, it was so confusing that
she would say that when I've seen worse things happen
to Shannon. I mean, David and Shannon got divorced in
(22:56):
twenty nineteen. A year later. He again, like a lot
of people would say that's bad. So I think Shannon
was reaching, Although I agree with her in terms of
what Katie did was wrong. I think that's when Shannon
sort of like loses me when she goes the extra
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mile and say things that makes no sense to me,
that made no sense to me and Katie, Katie, hey girl,
I'm about to have your back. Katie did not deserve
to be called the most evil person that she's ever met. Now,
with that being said, could there be any validity to
(23:42):
whether or not Katie is actually evil? So hear me out.
Gina went on Housewives Nightcap podcast and when Gina was
asked about rumors that Katie would not be returning next season.
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This is what Gina said. Well, I don't make those decisions.
I will say that I haven't seen her in a
very long time and I have no plans to see her,
And I will say that honestly, I'm sort of to
the point where if she was to be a part
(24:23):
of this group next year, I would seriously question whether
I want it to be. Now, look, Gina, you know
I love you, unless you really are selling homes the
way Josh flag Is or Josh Autman, Gina have several
(24:43):
seats at the Barclay Center like girl. But look, with
that being said, it's Katie that evil, It's Katie that ebol.
It's Katie so evil that Gina will lose her check
if she's back on the show. That that's a very
(25:04):
strong statement. Gina, come on the podcast, let's talk about
a girl. What has Katie done to where you have
Shanna saying she's the most evil purchase she's met. Now, granted,
when Shanna said that, all we know is she spoke
to a blogger about Emily's kids. And the other thing
(25:24):
we know is she recorded Shanna's outburst. I think that's bad.
I think it's wrong. I think it's horrible. I don't
think that's evil though, right. But for Gina to say
if Katie comes back, she would have to reconsider if
she wants to come back, that's a very loud and
(25:45):
strong statement. Katie, what have you done? Because the rumors
is Katie, you leave the show in the middle production.
That's what it's saying on social media, Katie. And the
fact that Gina says she has a seeing you in
a very long time. Y'all just wrapped a few months ago,
maybe two, maybe three. What did you do? Katie? Come
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the Carlos King Underscore
Reality with the King is hosted by me, Carlos King.
I'm an executive producer who have produced some of your
favorite shows from the Real Housewives in Atlanta, New Jersey
and my own creation, The Love and Marriage Franchise and
Bell Collective. Every episode we recap reality television from the
Real Housewives Franchise to The Bachelor or Selling Sunset, in
(00:27):
addition to celebrity guests, whether in the unscripted space or
scripted as well. Hey, brain drops, for today's episode of
Reality with the King, we have to get into the
Katie show. Look, I love all the girls and all
the girls love me, but we must dissect the fact
(00:48):
that Katie is carrying this show on her back. So far,
so far, it's still early in the season, but this
episode I really enjoyed. This season is definitely getting hot,
so let's just get right into it now. Heath of
de Bro, who was born on January fifth, honey, not
(01:12):
January sixth, shot to Vicky govisent. That was a joke
because Teddy Mellencamp did ask Vicky goversand where she was
(01:33):
on January sixth, So have a sense of humor, rain drops. Okay,
this is not a political podcast. This is one of unfiltered,
unscripted conversations. Okay, So on January fifth, one day before
the insurrection, half of the bro was born. She was
(02:01):
born Meani Meanie Meanie meenie many years before that child. Okay, fine,
let's let's move on from it. So Heather debro Is
during herself a birthday party forty days and forty nights
after her actual birthday. Okay, child, because she told you,
Brokie's look y'all spent all of your unlimited funds in
(02:22):
the savings account on Christmas gifts and New Year's Okay,
and when it's my birthday on the fifth, I want
a Disneyland type of extravaganza. No, not the one with
the Papa ARROSSI caught me and Teddy take Abab Paul
(02:42):
giving each other a PDA. Not that one, child, I'm
talking about the one where I need gifts to Okay.
So instead of keeping it on her actual birthday, she
decided to do it a month later. There we go,
all right. So with that being said, she met with
(03:05):
Shannon and Jen and said to them, look, I'm throwing
a birthday party a month later after my birthday, but
I want to invite the husband. I did speak to Tamra,
and Tamar said, because Ryan and Jen are coming, she
doesn't feel comfortable being there, and on top of that,
(03:28):
she was instructed by her attorney that it is in
her best interest not to attend. Jen freaked out because,
as we all know, I'll give you out the quick
snapshot of the story, Jen's boyfriend, the handsome Ryan child
(03:52):
saving private Ryan Honey was accused of things that apparently
turned out not to be really true. I'm not going
to get to the weeds of it google a child,
but Tamar made a statement about the FBI raiding the
(04:12):
home something of that regards there were allegations that they
were going to sue her. Tamra apologized and said that
you know, she regretted saying it what I found out
this episode because I didn't know this unless you guys did.
I didn't know that Jen and Ryan had to pay
(04:40):
a lot of money and attorney fees to dispute that,
because from what I understand, while there were rumors and
encouragement for Ryan to sue Tamar, he never foiled a
lawsuit against her. So that's why I was confus When
Jen said, well, we spent so much money on attorney
(05:03):
fees because I'm like, but Ryan never filed a laws
suit against Tamera. So I know that attorneys charged you
for a consultation, but how many minutes or hours did
y'all speak to the attorneys to where it accumulated so
much money? That was confusing to me. What I do
know is Ryan supposedly did issue a cease and desist
(05:27):
letter to Tamra that does cost money, okay, to her
after she made statements that he felt were false and damaging. Allegedly, Vicky,
the former og to the OC, had initially encouraged Ryan
(05:50):
to sue. That's alleged that was according to reality T.
It is not according to reality but the king. But
according to reality T, allegedly they're saying Vicky encouraged Ryan
to do it, referencing when another lawsuit occurred, which is
(06:10):
why I was happy to see Timor apologize. But Ryan's
legal action did stop. So look, when it comes to
reality television, what's so interesting is because you're on a
reality show, you can say pretty much what you want
(06:33):
to about a person. That's a clause in your agreements, right,
So rain drops know that in your agreements you can
pretty much say what you want to say about a person,
because on a lot of these shows, when you yell
out wild accusation, it is you're defaming them. But because
(06:57):
it's reality television, it's all my part for the course,
that's that's what happens. Unfortunately, right, would you just say
anything whatever? I do believe? Because Ryan, technically it is
not a cast member. That's probably why he was able
to send a cease and desist and possibly excuse me
(07:18):
decide to do it. But look, I don't like it
when things get legal because I don't want to watch
these shows as if Judge Judy and her bailiff is
going to appear alongside the other attorney on the show,
Honey Emily. Okay, I don't the judge Emily Honey and
her gavel to represent Tamera or Jin in any situation.
(07:43):
I don't like it when things become legal. I just
think for me, it takes the fun out of what
we're watching, and I don't think it's fun. But Ryan
did feel that Tamar's statements on the show were damaging
to his reputation and career, but once again, Tamra did apologize,
(08:05):
So hopefully what we'll see this season is a conversation
between those two about what happened in an effort to
move forward because I don't want to see things get
dark now. What we did see is Heather and Tamra
(08:25):
talking about this situation, and Heaven did say that based
on what Tamra is going through, which is watching her
best friend Teddy Mellencamp go through this cancer journey, having
to have multiple surgeries is devastating to her emotionally, tamar
did emote that she goes down the rabbit hole of
(08:49):
the photos between her and Teddy or just Teddy, you know,
in general, because she misses her and she wants to
make sure or that her best friend obviously survives this,
and while she's hopeful that she will, it is still
something in the back of her mind in terms of
what if she doesn't. And that's when Heather decided to
(09:11):
approm all of us that she is seeing a different
side of Tamra. She's seeing growth, and she is seeing
somebody that is way more balanced than what we see.
And based on these few episodes, I will say we
haven't seen Tamarra and her typical villain era because Katie
(09:33):
decided to take the baton twirling and enter Shannon space.
We'll get to that later in the episode. So my
heart goes out to Tamara. Obviously, my heart goes out
to Gin. Two things can be true, right, Two things
can be true When someone makes an accusation that you
(09:56):
feel like is going to ruin your reputation, that's not
okay at all. And I understand the grievances that Ryan
and Jen have because it is an emotional turmoil to
deal with that. So I definitely understand where Jen's coming from.
I also understand where Tamra's attorney is coming from when
(10:19):
he says, I don't want you around them, well, particularly
specifically Ryan, because look, when you poke Tamra, Tamra's liable
to go off of you and may say things she regrets.
Ryan is the same way you poke Ryan, Honey, Ryan
(10:40):
is liable to go after you and say things that
he may regret. So I understand the attorneys saying I
just don't trust you two to be in the same
room because if one of you guys poke, the other
things can be said that will cause things to take
a severe legal action. And that's the last thing that
(11:03):
we want to see, at least for me, I don't
want to see that. I want to see Ryan getting
a tan, Honey. I want to see Ryan goes shopping
at Tommy Bahama, Honey for some shorts, okay, at a
tank top. I'm just saying that's what I want to see.
I ain't trying to see anything lego, not at all,
(11:26):
Not at all. This is reality with the King, and
I'm Carlos King. Let's get back into the show. But
one thing that I was very happy to see, Honey
is Shanna ba door checking Katie so at heav is
the bro party. Katie and Shannon finally have a one
(11:49):
on one and this is where we learned that. And Katie,
I've been trying my best to see your side of things,
but you make it hard for me to not call
you Katie b Lyon. You have taken the trophy away
(12:09):
from me. A pro potomac, Katie, you are a liar,
liar pants on fire. And it's so evident because once
you're confronted with something in real time, you look like
Bambi Deer in the headlights and you don't have words
until you go home and you recite everything in your
(12:34):
mind and you come up with a storyline and and
and lies girl, okay, and excuse this? Then you want
to bring it back to them saying, oh, by the way,
you know, yes, I found the DM. I did call
her like girl. You knew that last week. So this
week Shannon clocked it once. Katie said to her, well,
(12:58):
I text you apologizing, and Shanna's like you text me
and was making excuses for your actions. And that's the
problem that I'm having with Katie. Why does it take
three business days for your brain to work to where
(13:22):
the memory chip is activated and you're able to compute
words that you use your manicured fingers and your samsunk
android okay girl, maybe an iPhone sixteen and you text
all of a sudden your memory worked, what are we doing?
(13:44):
And makes those sens to me? Katie makes those sys
to me and my friend Alexis Menlino came on last week,
was a great episode. Listened to I Love Me some
Alexis and she said, Carlos, I know you're heard on Katie,
but you know, I don't think she's a let'ious person.
And I trust Alexa's opinion, but the problem is I'm
(14:06):
not seeing on the show what Alexis knows in real life.
And that's why I'm having a hard time digesting Katie
because I find her. I find her to be an enigma.
I just I just don't get her. I don't get her.
(14:30):
I just but look, Katie, if you're listening, honey, come
on Reality with the King. Honey. I would love to
have you on because maybe I'm missing something and I
would love to give you the benefit of the doubt.
My doors are open to you. Kt to come on
the show, honey and be held not accomfortable, a caterable. Okay,
(14:54):
So moving on, Shannon is like, look, you recorded me
and that's illego. Now before y'all laugh, let's have a
real conversation. Okay. I want you guys to know this
(15:18):
because I do my research. I am a journalist. Hey, Portiche. So,
as you all know, the show is taped in the
state of California. So while Katie and the rest of
the cast members were doing a photoshoot, Katie recorded Shannon's outburst.
(15:40):
Alexis Blito confirmed last week that it wasn't a video,
it was audio only. Okay. So when Shannon tells Katie
what she did was illego, this is what she meant
by it. In the state of California, you generally cannot
record a conversation without the consent of all parties involved.
(16:04):
California is a two party consent state, meaning that all
parties to a conversation must agree to be recorded. This
is based on the California Penal Code Section six thirty two,
which makes it illegal to record a confidential communication without
the consent of all parties. Now, granted, it wasn't like
(16:28):
Katie and Shannon were talking and having their own conversation
that she recorded, so there is a loophole there. However,
Shannon isn't all the way wrong because recording somebody without
their consent is illegal in the state of California. So
that's what she meant by that. Now what we all
(16:51):
know is, Shanna Badoor, you recorded Kelly Dodd video okay
audio in Ireland without Kelly Do's consent. Now this is
the gag of the Gaga gags. Once again. I'm a journalist,
(17:13):
So here are the facts. In Ireland, you can generally
record conversations or phone calls if you are a party
to them, without needing to inform the other participants. This
is known as one party consent. Emily, I'm doing your
(17:37):
job as a lawyer. Okay. While it's not illegal to
record without informing the other parties, there can be legal
implications depending on the context of the recording and how
it's used. So Shannon legally recorded Kelly in Ireland because
(17:58):
in Ireland it's a one party consent. So there you
have it. There you have it. There you have it.
Now Shannon did say watch what Happens Live When Andy
said to her, we a girl. They said, you recorded
Kelly Dodd. She said, Look, the producers tell us when
they're not around filming us to take out our phones
(18:22):
and record so that they're able to use it in
case there's any big moments on their activities. And as
a producer, I can't confirm that's exactly what happens, that
does happen, because there's only a certain amount of time
of window, well window of tom excuse me, where the
(18:43):
crew is able to work after that window. If the
girls want to go out, the crew cannot go out
because they need to rest, eat and all these other things. Right,
So as producers, we do tell our cast, look, if
you see anything crazy or something big happens, recording on
(19:05):
your phone. So that we can use it in the show.
And that's why in a lot of these shows where
they are out of the country or after hours, you
see more phone cam footage than camera footage. Okay, that's
what happened. Now. One thing Shannon also got right was
(19:27):
when Katie was like, well, when I recorded you, I
was on a business call and you were acting out.
Once again, I'm with Shannon. If you are on a
business call, why not leave the room? Why not go
to your dressing room? Why not go to the bathroom.
If I'm on a business call and Shannon Bador is
(19:50):
acting out, I'm not going to record her unless I'm
going to use it against her in the future. Let's
call it what it is. Allegedly Allegedly. Allegedly, there have
been conversations that Shannon does how outburst off camera. The
girls have said it, other another show has said a
(20:14):
child It has been said that Shannon has an outburst. Now, look,
that is very believable based on Shannon's behavior on the show,
because she will leave a room say take this effing
mic off of me, Like, that's what Shanna does, It's
what she does. So, in my opinion, what Katie wanted
(20:38):
to do was not only to record it and play
it for Tamra, which she did, and then Tamra told
Alexis Billina about it. Alexis cleared that up to on
the show. She wanted evidence in terms of how Shannon
acts off camera. That's that's exactly what I believe Katie
what's doing. And that's the reason why you say, See,
(21:01):
Shannon's so fired up because she knows that you're trying
to embarrass me. And although I've had it with Tamra,
I've gotten into it with other people. They never recorded me,
but the only person who did was John when John
(21:23):
recorded her the night of the Dui. And that's why
she said to her, look, I am worried about your
mental state and puts her in the same category as
John due to the recording. She also tells Kati, you
(21:44):
are the most evil person I've ever met. Now, Shannon, girl,
that's a stretch. Does your arm hurt? Is out the socket?
Where's your elbow? That was a stretch? Go to pilates, Boo, Katie,
being the most evil person you met is a stretch. Now, look,
(22:08):
we all know what happened with your ex husband. I
am not calling David evil once again, I am not
calling David evil. I don't know him, so I'm not
going to use that word to describe him. But what
a lot of people do feel is cheating to them
when you're married. They do feel like that action is evil.
It's an evil action. It doesn't make you an evil
(22:30):
person for most people, but a lot of people do
think cheating while you're married is an evil action they do,
which is why for me, it was so confusing that
she would say that when I've seen worse things happen
to Shannon. I mean, David and Shannon got divorced in
(22:56):
twenty nineteen. A year later. He again, like a lot
of people would say that's bad. So I think Shannon
was reaching, Although I agree with her in terms of
what Katie did was wrong. I think that's when Shannon
sort of like loses me when she goes the extra
(23:17):
mile and say things that makes no sense to me,
that made no sense to me and Katie, Katie, hey girl,
I'm about to have your back. Katie did not deserve
to be called the most evil person that she's ever met. Now,
with that being said, could there be any validity to
(23:42):
whether or not Katie is actually evil? So hear me out.
Gina went on Housewives Nightcap podcast and when Gina was
asked about rumors that Katie would not be returning next season.
(24:02):
This is what Gina said. Well, I don't make those decisions.
I will say that I haven't seen her in a
very long time and I have no plans to see her,
And I will say that honestly, I'm sort of to
the point where if she was to be a part
(24:23):
of this group next year, I would seriously question whether
I want it to be. Now, look, Gina, you know
I love you, unless you really are selling homes the
way Josh flag Is or Josh Autman, Gina have several
(24:43):
seats at the Barclay Center like girl. But look, with
that being said, it's Katie that evil, It's Katie that ebol.
It's Katie so evil that Gina will lose her check
if she's back on the show. That that's a very
(25:04):
strong statement. Gina, come on the podcast, let's talk about
a girl. What has Katie done to where you have
Shanna saying she's the most evil purchase she's met. Now, granted,
when Shanna said that, all we know is she spoke
to a blogger about Emily's kids. And the other thing
(25:24):
we know is she recorded Shanna's outburst. I think that's bad.
I think it's wrong. I think it's horrible. I don't
think that's evil though, right. But for Gina to say
if Katie comes back, she would have to reconsider if
she wants to come back, that's a very loud and
(25:45):
strong statement. Katie, what have you done? Because the rumors
is Katie, you leave the show in the middle production.
That's what it's saying on social media, Katie. And the
fact that Gina says she has a seeing you in
a very long time. Y'all just wrapped a few months ago,
maybe two, maybe three. What did you do? Katie? Come
(26:10):
on the show so we can find out. Reality with
the King is executive produced by me Carlos King, produced
by Lizzie Nimitz, and a partnership with the Lack Effect Network.
You can also find us on my YouTube channel at
(26:31):
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