August 15, 2025 • 34 mins
RHOC fans, the moment we’ve all been waiting for has arrived. Carlos takes Katie’s roster of lies and breaks down every single one — from roofies to bloggers to friendships in full meltdown mode. It’s drama from start to finish… with a side of beign-YAYs before Tamra’s big “bye-bye.” Carlos is calling this the best episode of the season - and we agree!
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Reality with the King is hosted by me, Carlos King.
I'm an executive producer who have produced some of your
favorite shows from the Real Housewives in Atlanta, New Jersey
and my own creation, The Love and Marriage Franchise and
Bell Collective. Every episode, we recap reality television from the
Real Housewives Franchise to The Bachelor or Selling Sunset, in
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addition to celebrity guests, whether in the unscripted space or
scripted as well. Hey, rain drops of today's episode of
Reality with the King, Let's get into this great episode.
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It was good, by far, the best episode of the season.
It was so good. It was so good. It was
so good. Gretchen, Tamra, Katie, the like Shannon, it was.
This was the episode that we've all been waiting for
because remember when Tamera it was what this was around
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like mid to late last year, when she tweeted pretty
much that she quit the show and we were all
like wondering, what happened? What honey, Bunny, pudding Pie. We
just found out what happened. So let's get into it. Liar, Liar,
Katie's on fire. Oh Katie, why am I gonna deal
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with you? Out of the whether to love you or
hate you or skin you like last year's versace. Shout
out to Dina Manzo. Yes, where do we begin? We're
do we begin? Okay? So this episode, like I said earlier,
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is going to help us understand why Tamer quit. And
there was so much nuances in this episode. But let's
just do a quick recap and overview. So what we
know since episode one is that Katie is alive. Katie, look,
I'm gonna give you this. You are the reason for
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the season. I mean, you have done more in two
seasons than Heather has done. I'm just this is no shade.
It's no shade. I'm just saying what Katie has done
in two seasons. I mean, I'm low key intrigued. She
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said a big bub But Katie is cooking Now if
this recent allegation is true, Katie, that I don't know
what to tell you. Besides, I may now understand why
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Gina said in an interview that if you were to
come back to the show she would have to really
consider it. Okay, because Gina quit her job at Chili's
and now that she's working for the Ottoman Group, you
know as the real estate Mogo, she doesn't need this
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check anymore, baby, so let's send Gina is willing to
sacrifice her paycheck. Okay if that means being on the
same show as Katie Janella. Okay, so here we go.
Since the beginning of the season, I mean literally, since
the beginning of the season, Katie has been accused of
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talking to bloggers, befriending them, telling them stories so that
she's able to let's just say what it is to
pretty much have the bloggers on her side and you know,
allegedly paint these women in a bad life. Okay, here
we go now episode one, she you know, Katie allegedly
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spoke to a blogger about Emily's and the nanny and
her daughter and then all this other stuff. Right, whether
or not she dmn this person, come to find out,
Katie after two business days remembered, because when you lie,
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it takes you up to two business days to speak
to your husband, your children, your priest to come up
with the explanation that doesn't paint you as a liar
instead to paint you as a truth to who's able
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to all of a sudden remember something as if you
were an actress on a soap opera. Who was killed
for the second time, but came back to life, and
now that the amnesia has gone off and the anesthesia,
your memory is now better. Okay, so that was lie
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number one, got it? Lie number two? Katie recorded Shannon
having an outburst to production. Okay, she said, I did
not record her video recorded audio. Then she said she
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you know, did remember who she told, who she sipped
it to whatever? But then remember that, Okay, I did
record it, but it was audio only. Then she said,
watch What Happens Live that Alexis Blina is a liar too,
and Alexis Blino fri into the show, who was the
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fifth in her strangely on my very own show, had
to hear that Katie pretty much called her a liar
now in this episode. Although I was on your side, Katie,
I know, I know, I know, rain drops, can I
believe the first five minutes of this episode, I actually
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felt bad for Katie. So Shannon disinvited Katie from going
with them to get benyats because that's exactly what a
woman does over sixty she ostracizes people from her group.
I mean, I thought it was so mean, and I'm
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not a Katie fanatic. I'm not a Katie hater either.
I always believe right is right wrong as wrong. So
to ostra side somebody from getting vignette, I just thought
was rude. And to say I'm not going if she's there.
I did like that one bit, and I was actually
on Katie's side and I felt bad for Katie. I
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really did. But child, that wore off and we're off.
I'm just saying a war off child. So this is
what's going on. Okay. They went to go see a
voodoo lady. So the Christians, Shannon, Tamra, and Gretchen were
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feeling it. Okay, They're like, we believe in Jesus, you know,
we believe in Jesus junks, we do not believe in
a New Orleans woman practicing voodoo, although she's saying is
for positivity, okay, because I have never heard voodoo and
manifestation in the same sentence, but hey, what do I know?
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So they felt uncomfortable, rightfully so, because I would as
well theym on any of the spirits, whether it was
positive or negative, to affect them. But this gag the
spirits followed y'all outside because it made Tamar reveal the
most shocking thing we have heard all season long, and
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that revelation is that allegedly, okay, allegedly, Katie told Kei
Monique that Gretchen told her. Gretchen told Katie that Tamar
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allegedly tried to roofy her. So this alleged accusation heard
two thousand and eight with the infamous line of Naked Wasted,
where Gretchen was on the show as well as Vicki
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and Tamra and Child. I can't tell you who the
rest was because those were the force multipliers. Child. That
show belonged to Vickie, Tamara, and Gretchen, So I can't
tell you who else was on back in two thousand
and eight. But what I can tell you is this,
Tama dropped that bob because the spirits that she tried
to escape from the voodoo lady, That vooty lady said, look, bitch,
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you're not gonna disrespect my institution okay, and cast a spell. Allegedly, Oh, Tamra,
I said, bitch, how about I'll set this up for
you said you want to leave my situation? Okay? Because
think about it, Tama's revelation affected who those three ladies,
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Uh huh. The spirits for following allegedly. All right, So
Tamra then explains in her confessionals that back in two
thousand and eight when Gretchen was on the show, that
Gretchen off pretty much on camera. That's they couldn't break
the fourth wall so much. But she pretty much was
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saying that in quote unquote real life without the cameras,
Gretchen was a party, you know party, you know, God
used to get drunk, blah blah, blah blah. But that
on camera, essentially, you know, Gretcha was prim and proper.
So on the show that season, Tamra said that her
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and Vickie wanted to reveal to the world the real
Gretchen and that's when they say, let's get her naked wasted,
And Tamra said, look, we did not want her to
get naked, you know, literally, we just it was a
wrong choice of words, right, But they just wanted the
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world to see who they saw camera, which was Gretchen
being wasted. Okay, So that's how this all came about.
So what Katie allegedly is saying to Kikim Onnique, where
two journalists or bloggers contacted Tamra to tell her what
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the rumor was that this is going to come out,
and Tamar said she heard this before they started filming
to show this season, but that she did not want
to bring it up because obviously that's such a gross
accusation that who wants that accusation to be a part
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of his storyline? Nobody does. But Tamara brought it up
and she asked Gretchen. Gretchen looked visibly shocked. She broke
out in tears and then celebrating that she made the
right decision ostracizing Katie from getting a Begnet child. Okay,
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and She's like, see see I told you look, yeah,
see see, I told you right. So that was Shannon
Honey celebrating I'm in her Saint John. Uh huh. So
Shannon celebrating, like I told you, guys, Katie, you know
that's who she is. I don't want her around us.
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I don't trust her. Tamra and Gretchen hug and I
was like, oh my gosh, this brought them together, and
I thought it was very sweet, very nice, and I
love seeing that hug. Right. So I'm like, all right,
this shall be interesting. What is going to happen? Okay? Now, oh,
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by the way, Gretchen shout out to you, because baby,
you ate you clocked it. Baby. Before I move on,
we have to give Gretchen who had the best moment
of his episode. When Shannon and her tears were complaining
about how Katie did something illegal, Gretchen said, well, Shannon,
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with all due respect, no shade to you, you got
a dui which is also legal. Bitch. Gretchen, honey, you
ate all of that, all of that, all of that,
all of that, all of that, all of that that
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you did that baby, you did that, you absolutely did that.
That was everything. And Shannon did what nothing, honey, but
ut exhale okay and said, okay, this bitch got me here,
all right, so let's move on. So the ladies then
returned to the hotel to get dressed, and Gretchen is
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still really from the information she'd just been told. She
tells Jen what happened. Jen is shocked, and then Katie
comes in, like, what is going on? Slay spoke to Matt.
Matt is Katie's husband. Y'all. We don't see much of math, honey,
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but that's Katie's husband, honey. So Katie says, what's going on?
You know, Slay spoke to Madden what's happening? And then
Gretchen tells her and listen, no shake. Katie looked shocked.
Like Katie looks shocked, although I was like with Carlos,
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why did she look shocked? With Philly? Slade and Gretchen
spoke first. Gretchen told Slay what happened. Slave been called Matt,
Matt Been told Katie, and then Katie went to the MARYL.
Street class online on YouTube and started studying her lines
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of how she was going to act shocked. You know,
Katie went down to the streets, took an improv class
so that she's able to perform like she was in
front of a theater on Broadway and forty second Street.
So Katie's acting skills came into place. She looked shocked.
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I'm like, the Matt told you what was said? Because
Slade told Matt, because Gretchen told Slade. Again, it's a
game of telephone. This is reality with the King, and
I'm Carlos King. Let's get back into the show. So
Gretchen tune changed. Okay, She's like, well, you know, Tammer's
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history with me is not the greatest, and you know
Katie has never gave me any reason to not believe her.
So maybe Tamra did this or set me up. And
that's when I'm like, I think this is my opinion.
Of course, it's what pays my podcast. I think that
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Slade got to Gretchen. I think Slade, let me tell
you out something. Pillow talk is a motherfucker. If you
are a married couple in a relationship polly or not,
singular or not, well, relationship is more than one person
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cralos Okay, So if you are a relationship with one person,
two or five, pillow talk is a motherfucker because the
moment you tell your spouse about something, you are more
than likely going to side with the opinion of your spouse.
In my opinion, that's what Gretchen did. I strongly believed
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in that moment Gretchen believed Tamara. I do. But when
she got back to her hotel, it called Slade. Slaye
had to remind her, well, remember Tamar is not the
most credible. Look what she did to you. Blah blah
blah blah blah blah. And that's why Slay took it
upon himself to call Matt so that Matt can get
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I'm sorry, so that Mat can tell Katie so that
Katie can get in front of it. Okay, because they
did not want Tamar to win. That's my opinion. I believe,
deep down, Gretchen believed Tamar immediately until she spoke to Slade,
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and then Matt gave Katie the play, and that's why
she came in with her slides and her scripts and
her memory to give the performance of episode. That's what happened.
I believe that I do now Ki Kim Monique, in
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case some of you guys may not know who she is.
I love Ki Kim Monique. Kikim Monique has a radio
show on Radio Andy. She has a show called Reality
Checked along with Derinda Medley, the the Icon Honey from
the Real Housewives of New York. Okay, So Katie Monique,
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so this is where we're going. Katie Monique denies using
Katie for cloud Kei Kim Monique says in a recent interview,
I have screenshots and I'll pull them out. So here
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we go. On Page six's Virtual Reality podcast, Katie took
a jab at Kikim Monique and she said, I quote,
I'll just say that I looking back shouldn't have trusted
so many people, and I made a lot of rookie
mistakes with trusting a lot of people. But I was
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trying to let them get to know me because I
felt like last season, you didn't get to know me. Okay,
she continues, you got to see snippets of my life,
but not really who I was. And then at the
reunion you got to see a lot of who I
was in a very negative way. So I thought, if
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you are doing social media content, if you are writing something,
if you have a podcast, if you know who I am,
then you'll get it. So I was overly kind to
people that I shouldn't and have been. She also said
she assumed Tamar and Kiki had a conversation. Okay now,
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kikim Monique responded on her podcast, and she says, I
want to let you know. I have screenshots and I'll
put them out later. When anyone is announced as a
new housewife, I go and follow the new housewife because
I'm like, oh, who are they following? Ki? Kim on
Nique insisted she had never heard of Katie prior to
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her being announced as a housewife, and that when she
went to follow Katie, she realized that Katie was already
following her. Kikim mo o Nique said that Katie was
a fan of hers. She continues in my quote, So
all I'm saying is you followed me before I followed you,
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and then I get a message I am honored. So
you were a fan of mine before, for I was
supposedly a fan of yours that was looking for clout.
Kicky then noted that Katie quote, making it seem like
I'm doing this. I need the cloud. I host a
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show with one of the most iconic housewives in fucking history,
and if I wanted to have cloud, trust me, I'm
gonna use other people than Katie Janella from second season OC.
And that's all I'm gonna say about that. So kickim on.
Nique denies using Katie for cloud. Okay, now, with this information,
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Tamra goes sees Shannon and Shannon later on the episode.
So I'm gonna rewind it back a little bit. So
Tamar came in with a glass of water what she
said was water. Shannon in the late in the episode
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said that it did not look like water and pretty
much insinuating that Tamar has been drinking and the reason
why that's important is because when Shannon, Gretchen, and Tamar
left the Voodoo Lady, Tamra said that to Gretchen, like, look,
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I apologize for things I've done. I said some crazy
things in my life. That's why I try not to
have multiple drinks. I try to have one and then
I pretty much, you know, try to be good after that.
So they're trying to draw parallels in terms of was
Tamra drinking alcohol the moment she walked into Shannon's room.
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And the reason why this is so important, it's because
it's sort of a place out when my swetter child.
It plays out heavily towards the end of the episode. Okay,
so the ladies leave the hotel, they go to the restaurant.
On the way to the restaurant, Tamar tells family Gina
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Heather all about what she told Gretchen the girls on
Shock Heather already knew. On the other side, Gretchen tells Katie,
I believe you. I believe you did not say it,
and for the rector, Gretchen denies ever saying anything like that.
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Gretchen denies saying that Tamra tried to Roofie her and
all the other ladies believe too, that Gretchen did not
say that, that it doesn't sound like something she would say,
and if she did believe that, she would have said
it sooner. All right, So they're at the dinner They're
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at the dinner table, child, so is Tamra, Heather, Gretchen,
not Gretchen, Tamra, Heather, Emily, Gina, and Shannon, and they're
talking about Katie. Then Katie, Gretchen and Jim walk in
and it's the most awkward thing because they clearly know that, Okay,
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we're being talked about, right, So they sit down. Tamra
asked Gretchen if she can talk outside of the restaurant. Okay,
they have a conversation. Tamra asked her, is it okay
if I bring it up? If I bring up tonight
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at the table what I said to you earlier about
what Katie allegedly, you know, told and these boggers. Gretchen's like,
and Gretchen reveals, look, I pretty much told Katie what
you said. And Tama's like, oh my gosh, what did
she say? Well, she denied it, and Tama's kind of like,
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if you believe her? And then Gretchen's like, well, I
kind of do, and that pisses Tamar off. She goes
back to the table. She tells the table, I'm sorry.
As they're talking, Katie comes out okay. So then Katie
joins Tamar and Gretchen, and Katie denies it to Tamara.
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Gretchen pretty much tells Tamar she believes Katie. Tama gets mad,
leaves tells the rest of the ladies. Can y'all believe
that Gretchen believes Katie. They're shocked. Shannon's pissed because she's like,
I'm trying to get her ice out. I'm trying to
get her off the show. Damn it, I'm trying to
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get her off the show. She recorded me, Okay. The
ladies try to defend Gretchen, like, look, Gretchen and Katie
are friends, so it's going to be hard for Gretchen
just to believe that her friend would do something so horrible,
and Katie is pleading that she never said it. Shannon
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obviously is taking control of this conversation because she is.
I mean, at this point, Shannon is yelling at Katie saying,
I can't stand you. I listen, I have seen Shannon
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be around people, in my opinion, who has done worse
to her, who have done worse. I'm trying of looking
at Shannon a little bit sideways, like, look, I think
Katie is a liar, but you're being vicious and mean
to Katie and I listen. If you don't want to
be around her, that's fine. But I think Shanna is
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being grossly vicious to Katie and it's making me uncomfortable
to see that. I'm just being real. She's disgusting to Katie. Now.
While I think Katie is a liar, liar pants on fire,
I I her recording audio of you having outbursts, of
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you allegedly yelling at people. I mean, you did it. Sorry.
I don't know what else to say, Like, you did it,
you did it, own up to it. What was she
wrong for recording you? Yes? But shit, these other ladies
have done worse things to you, and you're able to
be around them? Is I don't. All I must say
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is I'm looking at Shannon real sideways. Baby, I don't.
I don't like the way she's yelling, got got got
gay at Katie. I don't like it. Okay, moving on,
So Gretchen and Tamara kind of get into it because
Tamra's like, fie, you believe her all good? And Heather
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is trying to talk to Tama, like, look, you gotta
see things from her point of view, and timas like
she talked about me, she called my husband, get this
is this is about Gretchen. She she talks it about me.
She commented on my daughter's polls, she called my husband gay,
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and all of a sudden, baby Gina went in. Gina
went off on Tama. I said, I don't like what
you're doing. Respect the table, baby, this. Gina said, this
is my table, this is my dinner. Baby. Gina is
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cashing chance, honey, auntman checks Ryan, her hat checks honey. Baby.
Gena said, you really respect me, honey if my thieves? Baby,
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come on, Gina. Gina was on playing with the girl Sadie.
Gina is yelling at Tamra, and what was crazy to me?
I'm like, did y'all edit something out? So rain Jaws
watched this scene again. If you've seen it already, If
you haven't seen it, watch it closely. Right before Gina
yells at Tamera, it's a weird at it. I'm like,
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it's like they cut out something, something that warrants Gina
for yelling. Watch it again. Gina's yelling comes out of nowhere,
and then she pretty much scorns and chest hides his tamera.
Something was cut out. Let me tell y'all something I've
seen it. This is when child listen to me. Something
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was edited out. Something happened that was edited out. Because
the way Gina yelled at Tamra did not match to me.
It did I match. And they're accusing Tamara being drunk.
They're flashing back to Tamra in Shannon's room. They showed
the glass. It does have a little tent to it.
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I don't know if it's you know, water from the faucet.
I don't know if it's a Seltzer tequila baka. I
don't know what it is. Okay, but baby, They got
a close up shot of the glass and then Gina saying,
your eyes are my eyes open? The other eyes closed?
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She said, you slouched, accusing Tamar being on xanax. I mean,
these accusations were flying across the room. Everybody, Shannon, Heather, Emily,
They're all like, even Jen, like, Tamra, you're not being yourself,
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are you okay? What's wrong? What's wrong? What's wrong? Are
you drunk? Like, what's going on here? And maybe Tamar
had enough and left and said I'm going home. Then
Heather tries to go out and talk to Tamarra. Tama's like,
go be with them, leave me alone. I'm gonna go home.
She walks down the flight of stairs, honey, her boots
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and her denim dress. By the way, that was a
cute off for Tamar. So Tamar her dinum honey, cowboy Tamra, Honey.
She walks down the flight of stairs to a boy Heather.
She sits down on her phone. She talked to the
production are y'all calling me an uber? Am I calling
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myself uber? Are y'all calling me your cardey? Because I
am the og this motherfucker I deserve some respect. By
b Tamra texts Gina fuck off. Oh my god, this
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episode was fantastic. So then Tamar gets in her uber
hoody maybe what's a lift and she's at the backseat
and she's like, I need to be here. Then she
posts on Instagram how her reality is real. Fuck this shit,
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and she's out peace, I'm out, and the girls are
gagging and Carlos King was gagging, so now we know
why she did that post. This episode was epic. This
I love this show so much. OC is just fantastic.
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It's all the housewives should watch OC. Miami's having a
good season two though. But the thing about OC is
I like the fact that they tried to hold each
other accountable amongst the friend group, and I believe in
real life their friends and I believe they actually like
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each other. That's what makes it great to me. I
love it. I love it. I thought it was a
spectacular episode. We're gonna get more into this next week
because I felt like this is the episode that's gonna
kick off a lot of allegations that we have been
seeing on social media before the premiere. This episode was
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a ten out of ten, ten out of a ten, Katie,
I'll out of the girl. I've kind of warped it
up to you. Ge Gandy, I ever liked you because
this episode bade me was the gift that kept on giving.
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addition to celebrity guests, whether in the unscripted space or
scripted as well. Hey, rain drops of today's episode of
Reality with the King, Let's get into this great episode.
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It was good, by far, the best episode of the season.
It was so good. It was so good. It was
so good. Gretchen, Tamra, Katie, the like Shannon, it was.
This was the episode that we've all been waiting for
because remember when Tamera it was what this was around
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like mid to late last year, when she tweeted pretty
much that she quit the show and we were all
like wondering, what happened? What honey, Bunny, pudding Pie. We
just found out what happened. So let's get into it. Liar, Liar,
Katie's on fire. Oh Katie, why am I gonna deal
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with you? Out of the whether to love you or
hate you or skin you like last year's versace. Shout
out to Dina Manzo. Yes, where do we begin? We're
do we begin? Okay? So this episode, like I said earlier,
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is going to help us understand why Tamer quit. And
there was so much nuances in this episode. But let's
just do a quick recap and overview. So what we
know since episode one is that Katie is alive. Katie, look,
I'm gonna give you this. You are the reason for
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the season. I mean, you have done more in two
seasons than Heather has done. I'm just this is no shade.
It's no shade. I'm just saying what Katie has done
in two seasons. I mean, I'm low key intrigued. She
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said a big bub But Katie is cooking Now if
this recent allegation is true, Katie, that I don't know
what to tell you. Besides, I may now understand why
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Gina said in an interview that if you were to
come back to the show she would have to really
consider it. Okay, because Gina quit her job at Chili's
and now that she's working for the Ottoman Group, you
know as the real estate Mogo, she doesn't need this
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check anymore, baby, so let's send Gina is willing to
sacrifice her paycheck. Okay if that means being on the
same show as Katie Janella. Okay, so here we go.
Since the beginning of the season, I mean literally, since
the beginning of the season, Katie has been accused of
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talking to bloggers, befriending them, telling them stories so that
she's able to let's just say what it is to
pretty much have the bloggers on her side and you know,
allegedly paint these women in a bad life. Okay, here
we go now episode one, she you know, Katie allegedly
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spoke to a blogger about Emily's and the nanny and
her daughter and then all this other stuff. Right, whether
or not she dmn this person, come to find out,
Katie after two business days remembered, because when you lie,
(04:41):
it takes you up to two business days to speak
to your husband, your children, your priest to come up
with the explanation that doesn't paint you as a liar
instead to paint you as a truth to who's able
(05:01):
to all of a sudden remember something as if you
were an actress on a soap opera. Who was killed
for the second time, but came back to life, and
now that the amnesia has gone off and the anesthesia,
your memory is now better. Okay, so that was lie
(05:25):
number one, got it? Lie number two? Katie recorded Shannon
having an outburst to production. Okay, she said, I did
not record her video recorded audio. Then she said she
(05:46):
you know, did remember who she told, who she sipped
it to whatever? But then remember that, Okay, I did
record it, but it was audio only. Then she said,
watch What Happens Live that Alexis Blina is a liar too,
and Alexis Blino fri into the show, who was the
(06:07):
fifth in her strangely on my very own show, had
to hear that Katie pretty much called her a liar
now in this episode. Although I was on your side, Katie,
I know, I know, I know, rain drops, can I
believe the first five minutes of this episode, I actually
(06:30):
felt bad for Katie. So Shannon disinvited Katie from going
with them to get benyats because that's exactly what a
woman does over sixty she ostracizes people from her group.
I mean, I thought it was so mean, and I'm
(06:51):
not a Katie fanatic. I'm not a Katie hater either.
I always believe right is right wrong as wrong. So
to ostra side somebody from getting vignette, I just thought
was rude. And to say I'm not going if she's there.
I did like that one bit, and I was actually
on Katie's side and I felt bad for Katie. I
(07:14):
really did. But child, that wore off and we're off.
I'm just saying a war off child. So this is
what's going on. Okay. They went to go see a
voodoo lady. So the Christians, Shannon, Tamra, and Gretchen were
(07:40):
feeling it. Okay, They're like, we believe in Jesus, you know,
we believe in Jesus junks, we do not believe in
a New Orleans woman practicing voodoo, although she's saying is
for positivity, okay, because I have never heard voodoo and
manifestation in the same sentence, but hey, what do I know?
(08:02):
So they felt uncomfortable, rightfully so, because I would as
well theym on any of the spirits, whether it was
positive or negative, to affect them. But this gag the
spirits followed y'all outside because it made Tamar reveal the
most shocking thing we have heard all season long, and
(08:26):
that revelation is that allegedly, okay, allegedly, Katie told Kei
Monique that Gretchen told her. Gretchen told Katie that Tamar
(08:50):
allegedly tried to roofy her. So this alleged accusation heard
two thousand and eight with the infamous line of Naked Wasted,
where Gretchen was on the show as well as Vicki
(09:10):
and Tamra and Child. I can't tell you who the
rest was because those were the force multipliers. Child. That
show belonged to Vickie, Tamara, and Gretchen, So I can't
tell you who else was on back in two thousand
and eight. But what I can tell you is this,
Tama dropped that bob because the spirits that she tried
to escape from the voodoo lady, That vooty lady said, look, bitch,
(09:33):
you're not gonna disrespect my institution okay, and cast a spell. Allegedly, Oh, Tamra,
I said, bitch, how about I'll set this up for
you said you want to leave my situation? Okay? Because
think about it, Tama's revelation affected who those three ladies,
(09:57):
Uh huh. The spirits for following allegedly. All right, So
Tamra then explains in her confessionals that back in two
thousand and eight when Gretchen was on the show, that
Gretchen off pretty much on camera. That's they couldn't break
the fourth wall so much. But she pretty much was
(10:19):
saying that in quote unquote real life without the cameras,
Gretchen was a party, you know party, you know, God
used to get drunk, blah blah, blah blah. But that
on camera, essentially, you know, Gretcha was prim and proper.
So on the show that season, Tamra said that her
(10:42):
and Vickie wanted to reveal to the world the real
Gretchen and that's when they say, let's get her naked wasted,
And Tamra said, look, we did not want her to
get naked, you know, literally, we just it was a
wrong choice of words, right, But they just wanted the
(11:03):
world to see who they saw camera, which was Gretchen
being wasted. Okay, So that's how this all came about.
So what Katie allegedly is saying to Kikim Onnique, where
two journalists or bloggers contacted Tamra to tell her what
(11:27):
the rumor was that this is going to come out,
and Tamar said she heard this before they started filming
to show this season, but that she did not want
to bring it up because obviously that's such a gross
accusation that who wants that accusation to be a part
(11:47):
of his storyline? Nobody does. But Tamara brought it up
and she asked Gretchen. Gretchen looked visibly shocked. She broke
out in tears and then celebrating that she made the
right decision ostracizing Katie from getting a Begnet child. Okay,
(12:08):
and She's like, see see I told you look, yeah,
see see, I told you right. So that was Shannon
Honey celebrating I'm in her Saint John. Uh huh. So
Shannon celebrating, like I told you, guys, Katie, you know
that's who she is. I don't want her around us.
(12:28):
I don't trust her. Tamra and Gretchen hug and I
was like, oh my gosh, this brought them together, and
I thought it was very sweet, very nice, and I
love seeing that hug. Right. So I'm like, all right,
this shall be interesting. What is going to happen? Okay? Now, oh,
(12:53):
by the way, Gretchen shout out to you, because baby,
you ate you clocked it. Baby. Before I move on,
we have to give Gretchen who had the best moment
of his episode. When Shannon and her tears were complaining
about how Katie did something illegal, Gretchen said, well, Shannon,
(13:18):
with all due respect, no shade to you, you got
a dui which is also legal. Bitch. Gretchen, honey, you
ate all of that, all of that, all of that,
all of that, all of that, all of that that
(13:41):
you did that baby, you did that, you absolutely did that.
That was everything. And Shannon did what nothing, honey, but
ut exhale okay and said, okay, this bitch got me here,
all right, so let's move on. So the ladies then
returned to the hotel to get dressed, and Gretchen is
(14:05):
still really from the information she'd just been told. She
tells Jen what happened. Jen is shocked, and then Katie
comes in, like, what is going on? Slay spoke to Matt.
Matt is Katie's husband. Y'all. We don't see much of math, honey,
(14:26):
but that's Katie's husband, honey. So Katie says, what's going on?
You know, Slay spoke to Madden what's happening? And then
Gretchen tells her and listen, no shake. Katie looked shocked.
Like Katie looks shocked, although I was like with Carlos,
(14:47):
why did she look shocked? With Philly? Slade and Gretchen
spoke first. Gretchen told Slay what happened. Slave been called Matt,
Matt Been told Katie, and then Katie went to the MARYL.
Street class online on YouTube and started studying her lines
(15:08):
of how she was going to act shocked. You know,
Katie went down to the streets, took an improv class
so that she's able to perform like she was in
front of a theater on Broadway and forty second Street.
So Katie's acting skills came into place. She looked shocked.
(15:29):
I'm like, the Matt told you what was said? Because
Slade told Matt, because Gretchen told Slade. Again, it's a
game of telephone. This is reality with the King, and
I'm Carlos King. Let's get back into the show. So
Gretchen tune changed. Okay, She's like, well, you know, Tammer's
(15:51):
history with me is not the greatest, and you know
Katie has never gave me any reason to not believe her.
So maybe Tamra did this or set me up. And
that's when I'm like, I think this is my opinion.
Of course, it's what pays my podcast. I think that
(16:14):
Slade got to Gretchen. I think Slade, let me tell
you out something. Pillow talk is a motherfucker. If you
are a married couple in a relationship polly or not,
singular or not, well, relationship is more than one person
(16:38):
cralos Okay, So if you are a relationship with one person,
two or five, pillow talk is a motherfucker because the
moment you tell your spouse about something, you are more
than likely going to side with the opinion of your spouse.
In my opinion, that's what Gretchen did. I strongly believed
(17:01):
in that moment Gretchen believed Tamara. I do. But when
she got back to her hotel, it called Slade. Slaye
had to remind her, well, remember Tamar is not the
most credible. Look what she did to you. Blah blah
blah blah blah blah. And that's why Slay took it
upon himself to call Matt so that Matt can get
(17:25):
I'm sorry, so that Mat can tell Katie so that
Katie can get in front of it. Okay, because they
did not want Tamar to win. That's my opinion. I believe,
deep down, Gretchen believed Tamar immediately until she spoke to Slade,
(17:46):
and then Matt gave Katie the play, and that's why
she came in with her slides and her scripts and
her memory to give the performance of episode. That's what happened.
I believe that I do now Ki Kim Monique, in
(18:11):
case some of you guys may not know who she is.
I love Ki Kim Monique. Kikim Monique has a radio
show on Radio Andy. She has a show called Reality
Checked along with Derinda Medley, the the Icon Honey from
the Real Housewives of New York. Okay, So Katie Monique,
(18:38):
so this is where we're going. Katie Monique denies using
Katie for cloud Kei Kim Monique says in a recent interview,
I have screenshots and I'll pull them out. So here
(18:59):
we go. On Page six's Virtual Reality podcast, Katie took
a jab at Kikim Monique and she said, I quote,
I'll just say that I looking back shouldn't have trusted
so many people, and I made a lot of rookie
mistakes with trusting a lot of people. But I was
(19:23):
trying to let them get to know me because I
felt like last season, you didn't get to know me. Okay,
she continues, you got to see snippets of my life,
but not really who I was. And then at the
reunion you got to see a lot of who I
was in a very negative way. So I thought, if
(19:46):
you are doing social media content, if you are writing something,
if you have a podcast, if you know who I am,
then you'll get it. So I was overly kind to
people that I shouldn't and have been. She also said
she assumed Tamar and Kiki had a conversation. Okay now,
(20:09):
kikim Monique responded on her podcast, and she says, I
want to let you know. I have screenshots and I'll
put them out later. When anyone is announced as a
new housewife, I go and follow the new housewife because
I'm like, oh, who are they following? Ki? Kim on
Nique insisted she had never heard of Katie prior to
(20:32):
her being announced as a housewife, and that when she
went to follow Katie, she realized that Katie was already
following her. Kikim mo o Nique said that Katie was
a fan of hers. She continues in my quote, So
all I'm saying is you followed me before I followed you,
(20:53):
and then I get a message I am honored. So
you were a fan of mine before, for I was
supposedly a fan of yours that was looking for clout.
Kicky then noted that Katie quote, making it seem like
I'm doing this. I need the cloud. I host a
(21:14):
show with one of the most iconic housewives in fucking history,
and if I wanted to have cloud, trust me, I'm
gonna use other people than Katie Janella from second season OC.
And that's all I'm gonna say about that. So kickim on.
Nique denies using Katie for cloud. Okay, now, with this information,
(21:47):
Tamra goes sees Shannon and Shannon later on the episode.
So I'm gonna rewind it back a little bit. So
Tamar came in with a glass of water what she
said was water. Shannon in the late in the episode
(22:08):
said that it did not look like water and pretty
much insinuating that Tamar has been drinking and the reason
why that's important is because when Shannon, Gretchen, and Tamar
left the Voodoo Lady, Tamra said that to Gretchen, like, look,
(22:30):
I apologize for things I've done. I said some crazy
things in my life. That's why I try not to
have multiple drinks. I try to have one and then
I pretty much, you know, try to be good after that.
So they're trying to draw parallels in terms of was
Tamra drinking alcohol the moment she walked into Shannon's room.
(22:55):
And the reason why this is so important, it's because
it's sort of a place out when my swetter child.
It plays out heavily towards the end of the episode. Okay,
so the ladies leave the hotel, they go to the restaurant.
On the way to the restaurant, Tamar tells family Gina
(23:15):
Heather all about what she told Gretchen the girls on
Shock Heather already knew. On the other side, Gretchen tells Katie,
I believe you. I believe you did not say it,
and for the rector, Gretchen denies ever saying anything like that.
(23:37):
Gretchen denies saying that Tamra tried to Roofie her and
all the other ladies believe too, that Gretchen did not
say that, that it doesn't sound like something she would say,
and if she did believe that, she would have said
it sooner. All right, So they're at the dinner They're
(24:00):
at the dinner table, child, so is Tamra, Heather, Gretchen,
not Gretchen, Tamra, Heather, Emily, Gina, and Shannon, and they're
talking about Katie. Then Katie, Gretchen and Jim walk in
and it's the most awkward thing because they clearly know that, Okay,
(24:23):
we're being talked about, right, So they sit down. Tamra
asked Gretchen if she can talk outside of the restaurant. Okay,
they have a conversation. Tamra asked her, is it okay
if I bring it up? If I bring up tonight
(24:47):
at the table what I said to you earlier about
what Katie allegedly, you know, told and these boggers. Gretchen's like,
and Gretchen reveals, look, I pretty much told Katie what
you said. And Tama's like, oh my gosh, what did
she say? Well, she denied it, and Tama's kind of like,
(25:10):
if you believe her? And then Gretchen's like, well, I
kind of do, and that pisses Tamar off. She goes
back to the table. She tells the table, I'm sorry.
As they're talking, Katie comes out okay. So then Katie
joins Tamar and Gretchen, and Katie denies it to Tamara.
(25:36):
Gretchen pretty much tells Tamar she believes Katie. Tama gets mad,
leaves tells the rest of the ladies. Can y'all believe
that Gretchen believes Katie. They're shocked. Shannon's pissed because she's like,
I'm trying to get her ice out. I'm trying to
get her off the show. Damn it, I'm trying to
(25:56):
get her off the show. She recorded me, Okay. The
ladies try to defend Gretchen, like, look, Gretchen and Katie
are friends, so it's going to be hard for Gretchen
just to believe that her friend would do something so horrible,
and Katie is pleading that she never said it. Shannon
(26:18):
obviously is taking control of this conversation because she is.
I mean, at this point, Shannon is yelling at Katie saying,
I can't stand you. I listen, I have seen Shannon
(26:40):
be around people, in my opinion, who has done worse
to her, who have done worse. I'm trying of looking
at Shannon a little bit sideways, like, look, I think
Katie is a liar, but you're being vicious and mean
to Katie and I listen. If you don't want to
be around her, that's fine. But I think Shanna is
(27:03):
being grossly vicious to Katie and it's making me uncomfortable
to see that. I'm just being real. She's disgusting to Katie. Now.
While I think Katie is a liar, liar pants on fire,
I I her recording audio of you having outbursts, of
(27:26):
you allegedly yelling at people. I mean, you did it. Sorry.
I don't know what else to say, Like, you did it,
you did it, own up to it. What was she
wrong for recording you? Yes? But shit, these other ladies
have done worse things to you, and you're able to
be around them? Is I don't. All I must say
(27:46):
is I'm looking at Shannon real sideways. Baby, I don't.
I don't like the way she's yelling, got got got
gay at Katie. I don't like it. Okay, moving on,
So Gretchen and Tamara kind of get into it because
Tamra's like, fie, you believe her all good? And Heather
(28:10):
is trying to talk to Tama, like, look, you gotta
see things from her point of view, and timas like
she talked about me, she called my husband, get this
is this is about Gretchen. She she talks it about me.
She commented on my daughter's polls, she called my husband gay,
(28:31):
and all of a sudden, baby Gina went in. Gina
went off on Tama. I said, I don't like what
you're doing. Respect the table, baby, this. Gina said, this
is my table, this is my dinner. Baby. Gina is
(28:52):
cashing chance, honey, auntman checks Ryan, her hat checks honey. Baby.
Gena said, you really respect me, honey if my thieves? Baby,
(29:14):
come on, Gina. Gina was on playing with the girl Sadie.
Gina is yelling at Tamra, and what was crazy to me?
I'm like, did y'all edit something out? So rain Jaws
watched this scene again. If you've seen it already, If
you haven't seen it, watch it closely. Right before Gina
yells at Tamera, it's a weird at it. I'm like,
(29:38):
it's like they cut out something, something that warrants Gina
for yelling. Watch it again. Gina's yelling comes out of nowhere,
and then she pretty much scorns and chest hides his tamera.
Something was cut out. Let me tell y'all something I've
seen it. This is when child listen to me. Something
(30:00):
was edited out. Something happened that was edited out. Because
the way Gina yelled at Tamra did not match to me.
It did I match. And they're accusing Tamara being drunk.
They're flashing back to Tamra in Shannon's room. They showed
the glass. It does have a little tent to it.
(30:24):
I don't know if it's you know, water from the faucet.
I don't know if it's a Seltzer tequila baka. I
don't know what it is. Okay, but baby, They got
a close up shot of the glass and then Gina saying,
your eyes are my eyes open? The other eyes closed?
(30:49):
She said, you slouched, accusing Tamar being on xanax. I mean,
these accusations were flying across the room. Everybody, Shannon, Heather, Emily,
They're all like, even Jen, like, Tamra, you're not being yourself,
(31:12):
are you okay? What's wrong? What's wrong? What's wrong? Are
you drunk? Like, what's going on here? And maybe Tamar
had enough and left and said I'm going home. Then
Heather tries to go out and talk to Tamarra. Tama's like,
go be with them, leave me alone. I'm gonna go home.
She walks down the flight of stairs, honey, her boots
(31:34):
and her denim dress. By the way, that was a
cute off for Tamar. So Tamar her dinum honey, cowboy Tamra, Honey.
She walks down the flight of stairs to a boy Heather.
She sits down on her phone. She talked to the
production are y'all calling me an uber? Am I calling
(31:57):
myself uber? Are y'all calling me your cardey? Because I
am the og this motherfucker I deserve some respect. By
b Tamra texts Gina fuck off. Oh my god, this
(32:21):
episode was fantastic. So then Tamar gets in her uber
hoody maybe what's a lift and she's at the backseat
and she's like, I need to be here. Then she
posts on Instagram how her reality is real. Fuck this shit,
(32:44):
and she's out peace, I'm out, and the girls are
gagging and Carlos King was gagging, so now we know
why she did that post. This episode was epic. This
I love this show so much. OC is just fantastic.
(33:05):
It's all the housewives should watch OC. Miami's having a
good season two though. But the thing about OC is
I like the fact that they tried to hold each
other accountable amongst the friend group, and I believe in
real life their friends and I believe they actually like
(33:25):
each other. That's what makes it great to me. I
love it. I love it. I thought it was a
spectacular episode. We're gonna get more into this next week
because I felt like this is the episode that's gonna
kick off a lot of allegations that we have been
seeing on social media before the premiere. This episode was
(33:52):
a ten out of ten, ten out of a ten, Katie,
I'll out of the girl. I've kind of warped it
up to you. Ge Gandy, I ever liked you because
this episode bade me was the gift that kept on giving.
(34:14):
Reality with the King is executive produced by Me Carlos King,
produced by Lizzie Nimitz, and a partnership with The Lack
Effect Network. You can also find us on my YouTube
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