July 30, 2024 • 36 mins
Post-COVID, we are all living under evolved or flat-out different protocols. And many of us may be unsure which societal rules have changed and what new rules have emerged. Thankfully, New York magazine reformulated and clarified the guidelines concerning how we should all behave in a post -pandemic world. Really, no Really!
In this episode we discuss and analyze some of the “194 Modern Etiquette Rules for Life After Covid”with New York magazine editor Choire Sicha, who previously made waves as co-editor at Gawker (twice) and was the former editor at the “Styles” desk of the New York Times. You’ll learn whether it’s okay to Email, text & direct message at any hour. Whether it’s now okay to discipline your friend’s children. AND…if there’s ever a time when it’s okay to be a Karen?
IN THIS EPISODE:
- Is it still okay to use “COVID” as an excuse for cancelling plans?
- The new rule for running into people you haven’t seen in a while.
- How badly have our post-COVID office manners degraded?
- It’s NOT okay for you to karaoke THIS word.
- Must a host accommodate your veganism, gluten-ism, allergies?
- Etiquette and the Ozempic-Effect explained.
- The correct way to listen to someone!
- The new tips on tipping that have many infuriated!
- Never wake up your spouse for any reason…EVER!
- The timelines for cancelling plans has changed a lot.
- How to properly stop people from telling you a story that you’ve heard before?
- Jason shares his traveling incognito disguise. Can you spot him?
- The latest fashion for Summer…Near nudity!
- Google-heim: The rudest thing we’ve ever witnessed!
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Really now, really.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Really now really Hello, and welcome to Really No Really
Jase Now, Elexander and Peter Tilden remind you that if
you listen to and enjoy our show, it is proper
etiquette to subscribe. Now, let's talk a little bit about etiquette,
because in our post COVID world, societal rules have changed.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
And a host of brand new rules have emerged.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
But the vast majority of us are unaware of these
rules and unsure about how to consider and implement them.
But not the good folks at New York Magazine, who
have codified and clarified the guidelines on how we should
all be living into one hundred and ninety four modern
etiquette rules for.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
Life after COVID Really No Really, Today, we.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Chat with New York Magazine editor Corey Seeka, who previously
made waves as co editor at Gawker and was the
former editor.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
At the styles desk of The New York Times.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
You'll learn whether it's okay to email, text, or dam
at any hour, whether it's now acceptable to discipline your
friend's children, and if there's ever a time when it's
acceptable to be a Karen assuming your name is not
actually Karen, in which case it's usually fine.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
Here's Jason and Peter.
Speaker 4 (01:16):
So we're talking today.
Speaker 5 (01:17):
We're going to talk about rules, rules in the new world,
because honestly, it feels like like society is changing rapidly. Yes,
and the sort of etiquette, the dues and don'ts that
I grew up with when Anne Landers was the go
to and the guru and you they're not necessarily holding
try some of them do.
Speaker 4 (01:38):
Some of them are time test.
Speaker 6 (01:39):
There's also a new technology that's knew everything so so.
And by the way, I know, one of the new
rules that we're going to be talking about in a
minute is you can use COVID as an excuse for anything.
Because I think one of the writers, either the person
we're talking to or somebody who did the research, said,
you know what, we got to turn into a positive.
We got to use it somehow us for a positive.
And I admit there have been quite a few times
(02:01):
where I said I think I may have COVID, and
I just I don't want You've used it? Yes, come on, Jay,
look at me in the eye.
Speaker 5 (02:09):
But no, what I'll tell you how I've used it
because it's been a net positive for me when I
particularly when I fly.
Speaker 4 (02:17):
I continue to use the face mask, which.
Speaker 5 (02:19):
Is brilliant because it helps cut down on the recognizability.
And it's just it's a little less can I can?
Speaker 4 (02:26):
How much does that work? The recognizability is that about
fifty to fifty? If I talk, forget it, I guess
my voice has become But most of the time people
don't see it.
Speaker 5 (02:34):
But if I have, if I have any kind of
facial hair and a hat and my sunglasses and the mask,
it's pretty good.
Speaker 4 (02:42):
Bye, way pretty good. So let's do the new rules.
You want to get, So this is you got a
guy of the new rules.
Speaker 6 (02:49):
Corey Seeka is a writer, a blogger, an editor a
New York magazine, was the editor of the New York
Times Star Section. Also, he wrote a book called Very
Recent History, an extremely fact account of for a year
in a very large city, which seems to be a
very interesting book. And he was involved in all of
these new rules, the new rules for the way we should.
Speaker 4 (03:09):
Live and now. And it's lovely to meet you, lovely
welcome to thanks for having me.
Speaker 6 (03:15):
Absolutely so the new the new rules. Let's get into
a bunch of you. You bring up the ones that
you like the best and then we can talk about pushback.
We can talk about all kinds of stuff once we
hear the ones that resonate with you the most.
Speaker 7 (03:27):
Sure, I mean, and this all happened here because I
don't know what your experiences were like.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
But you know, people got a little fuzzy, like a
lot of us.
Speaker 7 (03:35):
I mean, I know you two gentlemen don't always work
in an office, but like a lot of stuff point
of offices and like you know, Bill Bluster, sort of
the basic ways of like how we all like intertwine
and get along.
Speaker 5 (03:46):
Sure, so what are the some and that is the
and that generated the new rules? But before you jump
into what some of these new rules are? How how
how do I ask this? How do you have the
stones to be the operator of these rules?
Speaker 4 (04:01):
Who decided you no? Serious?
Speaker 5 (04:03):
How did you come to go? I think I could
I could be a good arbiter for lack of a
better word of what is right?
Speaker 4 (04:10):
What is wrong? Or the or the even the progenitor
of such rules.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
That's a that's a very fair question with many excellent
words in it.
Speaker 7 (04:21):
Yeah, so we we did. We had a team at
New York, like we did this as a group together.
It was sort of a group homework project, and we
also like pulled the entire staff.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
We pulled our friends.
Speaker 7 (04:30):
Like we spent a lot of time making lists and
then making fun of each other.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
And then and then we wouldn't kick the tires.
Speaker 7 (04:36):
So people would tell us ideas for a rule, and
then we'd like go try it out, and they sometimes worked,
and they sometimes did, so like we do, we get
a little rotesting.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
You know, it was pretty. It was pretty. It was pretty.
You know, at the end of the day, we were
some of it was just for fun though.
Speaker 5 (04:50):
Sure sure, all right, So with that in mind, now
that I know we're talking to a bona fide expert,
not just some guy.
Speaker 6 (04:57):
Do you put these these are some pushback, we'll talk about.
Speaker 4 (05:01):
The push break.
Speaker 6 (05:01):
Oh yeah later, Okay, I'm sure something we have here.
Speaker 4 (05:05):
So we have favorites, But what are some of your favorites?
Speaker 5 (05:08):
What are the ones that have proven to be either
really fun or really accurate?
Speaker 1 (05:14):
So I mean, and also.
Speaker 7 (05:15):
Some of this and I'll give you one here, but
like and it'll play differently in LA, then it'll play
in New York, then they'll play in Chicago. So like
they always don't forget that etiquette is sort of local too.
So one of my favorites is if you've met someone
and they're like trying to place you, just be like, Hi,
we've met I'm Corey, you know what I mean, Like
you just come out and sort of reintroduce yourself as somebody.
(05:38):
People will get offended, but like we've forgotten that. Like,
you know, we think everyone knows each other's names. You
see someone's face on social media, you know, it's like
you gotta you gotta give them a little, a little hand,
just give him a little help.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
And so little ones like that make me really happy.
Speaker 5 (05:52):
Yeah, that's My wife has a thing called, uh, I
think I'm saying it right, plazo pagnostia, where she has
face blindness.
Speaker 4 (06:00):
She really does not chronic the way I've met some
people do.
Speaker 5 (06:03):
But if she hasn't spent a fair amount of time
with you, and she hasn't seen you in the day two, three, four,
she will not recognize your face immediately. And so it's
of great help if somebody says, Hi, I'm so and so.
We met at so and so's party, and she's, oh, god,
thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
So Yeah that makes you feel good.
Speaker 6 (06:20):
Right, Wait a minute, So now, I can go up
to people who I don't give a didn't learn the name,
didn't bother and go, Hi, I have p plagnocy.
Speaker 4 (06:28):
Yeah say that? All right? What else you got, Corey?
What are the rules that we should know? You know?
Speaker 1 (06:32):
A similar vein? Like we're going with basics here.
Speaker 7 (06:35):
Like the thing we finally realized was, whenever you tell
someone they look like someone else, you're just being Can
I say.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
You're just being an ass?
Speaker 7 (06:42):
Like it's just like even if it's like even if
it's like I'm saying like, oh you look like Tom Cruise,
you're gonna be like the.
Speaker 4 (06:48):
You know what I mean? Like, you can't win.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
There's no no one. No one feels good here. Just
don't ever see one.
Speaker 5 (06:54):
All right, let me let me see if I can
turn it into a year. So I understand not going
up to somebody and going, hey, you know who.
Speaker 4 (07:00):
You look like?
Speaker 5 (07:01):
But is it okay if I go if somebody says, hey,
look for my friend, Uh, they're gonna be at the diner.
Speaker 4 (07:07):
I may be they're a little late. Is it okay
to go? Who does he look like?
Speaker 1 (07:11):
Oh yeah, that's a good one. That's fun.
Speaker 7 (07:13):
That's fine because then you get to play a little
game with them, and that's sort of like cute and
on your own.
Speaker 6 (07:17):
Keep that right, you're right here, Well, hold on, I
got something on my throw Sean Hayes A little bit.
Speaker 4 (07:23):
Really, yeah, a little bit, A little bit. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
See, it doesn't feel good.
Speaker 4 (07:26):
I just want to now.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
I just feel like I'll feel like I'm the failed actor.
And he had the.
Speaker 5 (07:33):
Sorry, I just had to test it, right, okay, yes,
all right, look at him.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
I just really.
Speaker 4 (07:42):
Changed his behavior. I'm so sorry. I just had to
test It was a joke. It was.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
As long as it's fun, as long as we're laughing out.
Speaker 4 (07:48):
But she now, yeah there, yeah, I get that all
the time. So what can I tell you? It feel
makes you, makes you feel I get that.
Speaker 5 (07:57):
I get people all the time going, does anyone ever
to you look like the actor on sein film?
Speaker 4 (08:02):
I get that? He said a lot. I go every day.
That's all what I say.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
You gotta have a good stock line for these things.
You gotta try them.
Speaker 4 (08:09):
Out, you know what.
Speaker 6 (08:09):
Just all of a sudden turned said, We're gonna rule
our way out of this guary for years.
Speaker 7 (08:16):
Here's an important one, all right, So you know, every
once in a while, you end up doing karaoke.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
You guys probably do this like once a week karaoke.
Speaker 4 (08:22):
Sure, yes, you're out there every three times. In fact,
let's meat this up. I gotta be home for carry four.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
Like it's like lunchtime in l A.
Speaker 7 (08:32):
The You should a lot of songs contain words that you,
particularly if you are a white person.
Speaker 4 (08:37):
Should not repeat.
Speaker 5 (08:38):
Sure, I don't tend to put those in my karaoke playlist,
but listen.
Speaker 7 (08:43):
It happens like so you know the world is crazy,
but like that's just there's a word you you you
substitute a nice word like friends.
Speaker 4 (08:50):
Sure, yep, you know that's part of that.
Speaker 6 (08:53):
By the way, I remember, for your listeners, if you're white,
you must call him fifty cents.
Speaker 5 (08:57):
Right, you don't call him yeah.
Speaker 4 (09:04):
All right.
Speaker 5 (09:05):
It's just when you guys came up with that one
about you know, substitute words if you're white. Did was
that because someone in the group knew of someone who
got that wrong and.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
In some cases got it got it right.
Speaker 7 (09:20):
Like I actually had seen a white friend like really
reasonably and like nicely maneuver through a karaoke session that
could have been incredibly fraught and could have.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
Got is like the wrongest night of all time.
Speaker 4 (09:33):
Wow, she did great.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
She totally was like and I thought, you know what,
I am glad I saw this.
Speaker 4 (09:40):
Yeah. Yeah, this was the only one.
Speaker 5 (09:43):
There were many in the lists that jumped out at
me as both yes indeed, and some that I have
questions about, But this was the one that really I went,
I have a question because I don't even know what
it quite means. There's one that is simply says, always wink.
What does that mean?
Speaker 1 (10:02):
So like don't you find like, listen, we're we're men
of a certain age, Like don't you find.
Speaker 7 (10:06):
Like certain like uh like mannerisms just like charming.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
It's just like we've decided that this was like winking
is a communal charming?
Speaker 7 (10:18):
Uh, like bringing people together kind of like think we
should bring back. It's a little a little dated, you
know what I mean? And like people should feel like
they're on a joke.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
With you at all times.
Speaker 5 (10:28):
So are you using it for the I get it?
I'm kidding, I got it, you got one. You got it?
Speaker 2 (10:33):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
And it's a little campy, it's like a little big belt.
Speaker 6 (10:36):
Yeah, but why do I feel that they can get
you to hr immediately at work.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
I mean, you're not supposed to wink and smackle on
the end.
Speaker 5 (10:45):
No, I understand that it's sort of like nice, you know,
like good meeting.
Speaker 6 (10:50):
I'm going right to write to the principal's office at
that point. The other one that got me that was,
and I know there's some pushback, is if you're going
to a dinner party, don't tell them you allergic to this.
Speaker 4 (11:01):
You're glued free. And yes, right, I have that one.
I don't foist your algy.
Speaker 6 (11:07):
Which is, by the way, if I'm the host of
the party I'm going to I'm going to ask, right.
Speaker 4 (11:12):
But I have people all the time.
Speaker 6 (11:13):
We had somebody was well known, well known, the wife
is well known, and said to my wife, we said,
we're going to have some Mexican food, and they went,
I don't eat Mexican food. So we had Mexican food
and Italian food, and then she proceeded the Italian food
and the Mexican Mexican food.
Speaker 5 (11:29):
I have a friend who only within the last couple
of years became vegan.
Speaker 4 (11:34):
We used to have them over for.
Speaker 5 (11:35):
Barbecues vegan, and now I go, I don't want to
have to take care of you. I don't want to
have to open a whole of the section just for you.
It's like having a kosher home. This is the meat section,
this is the dairy sect.
Speaker 4 (11:52):
Rabbi, that's over there. So Cory, what do you say,
what's the definitive on that?
Speaker 7 (11:56):
I mean, listen, this is again, this is going to
read a little differently in LA because in LA you're
going to get the whole laundry list.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
Oh it's night shades.
Speaker 7 (12:04):
Yeah, right, exactly so, and that's fine, Like that's just
the culture of Los Angeles. That's you know, you guys
did this yourself, So it's you know what, honestly, you
should take care of yourself, like you honestly, Like there's
things I don't eat.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
There's things I don't drink. I don't eat, and I
don't drink them, and I leave everyone in the hell.
Speaker 4 (12:19):
Oh yeah, yeah, you know what, It's exactly right.
Speaker 6 (12:22):
And by the way, you can eat later on the
way home, getting in an outburger or something not that
you're not going there to eat, going there to sociale.
Speaker 7 (12:27):
Right, all right, Although you know the new thing now
that everyone's on the drugs, on the ozempics and the whatnot,
is that people are like sort of forgetting. I saw
to a friend today. She said, I was at a
dinner party last night on a Sunday night, and people,
she put the chicken in it like ten pm because
she just didn't care. She wasn't hungry anymore, and like starting,
Oh my.
Speaker 5 (12:46):
God, I've never thought of that. Oh this could this
could be the end of.
Speaker 4 (12:51):
Or dinner party. No food. Yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 6 (12:55):
It's okay to email, text or direct message anyone at
any hour.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
All right, people are mad over this. Still, here's my deal.
Speaker 7 (13:05):
And people who are mad at us are like, my
mother is dying and I need to be able to
get texts from anyone at any time, Like you know what,
You're right, I'm sorry, But the rest of us are
in charge of our phones.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
Like I get my friends text me at two in
the morning.
Speaker 7 (13:18):
I have my phone notifications turned off because I'm in bed,
like that is part of being an adult now.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
And if you can't handle it, like get rid of
your phone.
Speaker 4 (13:27):
Oh right, I like it. I like it. Not only
do you have rules, you have consequences. I like it.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
Thank you. It's a global world.
Speaker 4 (13:35):
Going into the er now. I thought you should know.
You don't want me to a guilt text.
Speaker 7 (13:43):
You know, it's always either not important or it's just
really horny.
Speaker 6 (13:47):
Exactly, all right? How about this one. You can discipline
your friends your friends kids, but not the strangers discipline.
Have you ever disciplined your friends kids trying.
Speaker 7 (13:58):
To discipline their parents on because mostly what I'm seeing
with problem kids is just terrible parenting. I'm mad at
my best friend right now. Can you tell I'm mad?
I'm really worked up about this kid? Ah smack these parents.
The kids find the kids a kiddies blameless.
Speaker 4 (14:12):
So do the do the parents? But I discipplinting.
Speaker 6 (14:15):
Could you discipline a friend's kids, a friend's kid, a
friend's kid, Well, I.
Speaker 4 (14:20):
I think of discipline in a very different way.
Speaker 5 (14:23):
I'm not I'm not gonna you know, I'm not going
to spank, I'm not gonna yell at them. I have
absolutely said to a friend's kid who did something I went.
(14:48):
I have absolutely said to a friend's kid who did
something I went, you know that hurts my feelings.
Speaker 7 (14:58):
That's really good, that's a amazing. You know what I
wish you would discipline my whole family.
Speaker 4 (15:04):
Oh you did that?
Speaker 6 (15:04):
This is how well, that's it's it's the you. This
is this is how you make me feel.
Speaker 5 (15:08):
There's no it's not you know, I'm not gonna First
of all, I don't believe in corporate punishment, but I
mean I wouldn't.
Speaker 4 (15:16):
Yeah, I wouldn't threaten a child. I wouldn't, you know,
but I think you can. I think you.
Speaker 5 (15:22):
I think by the way I would say that to
to a strangers child, I would go, hey, listen, you
get to say what what you feel. But I just
want you to know what you've said. That's very, very nice.
You've heard my feeling. I think we're up, Laurie.
Speaker 6 (15:37):
Whatever kind of award though, podcast got for a nice
moment because it's our only one, and.
Speaker 5 (15:42):
You had one that I that I I don't. I
think I'm I'm still guilty of it and I and
I don't want to be.
Speaker 4 (15:51):
It's something I've really worked on.
Speaker 5 (15:52):
But this is a really good one where you wrote
listening is not the time to silently rehearse what you
want to say next, and I think so many of
us are to really be a full listener is not
a skill we are taught, and it's not one that's
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easily acquired. What was the reaction to that one ory.
I mean, is it something that if you guys, you know,
put it down. Is it something that came up a
lot in your group, or is it something that someone
was working.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
On or Yeah, it was a little personal this one.
Speaker 4 (16:29):
It was.
Speaker 7 (16:30):
And this was sort of a sleeper like this one
didn't get a lot of attention, but actually when we
did talk about it with people, it was like it
it always led to these kind of intense, like serious
moments like this, which I really appreciate, Like this one.
I mean, I'm not I hope he doesn't listen, but
I'm going to say this one came up with my
spouse and part of it was like we were sometimes
(16:50):
having conversations and I was like I can see him
looking up and thinking about what he wants to put
in next.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
I'm still saying.
Speaker 7 (16:57):
My words, and I was like, you know, and I
would be like, hey, I need you to come back
and like, you know, make the eye contact. So this
came out of this experience, but a lot of people,
a lot of really good talks with people about this one.
Speaker 5 (17:11):
Yeah, because because a lot of people can be you know,
I wonder, I really do want to It just gets
philosophical with me.
Speaker 4 (17:17):
I wonder.
Speaker 5 (17:19):
If that that tendency to be activated by something we
hear and you start preparing your response before you hear
fully is part of I wonder how much of being
triggered by something is because you've you've heard the thing
that is triggering, but you haven't heard the context, you
haven't heard the intent, you haven't heard you know that
(17:42):
it's I just and and I'll be the first to say,
I'm not, I'm not incredibly great.
Speaker 7 (17:48):
It's hard on us and I talk a lot of
this up to all of our attention spans mine included,
which is not great. But also like we're I think
for us in the media, we're in a funny business
and we're a serious magazine and we're a fun magazine also,
but like we're not we're trying to bridge a distance,
at the distance between saying like I want you to
(18:10):
read this thing and here's why it's important, and I
want it to be a little bit salty and a
little bit sassy at the same time.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
But I also don't. But I also don't.
Speaker 4 (18:19):
I don't.
Speaker 7 (18:20):
We're not here in the business of like waving the
gross flag and like getting too little gin duck to
be mad for no reason. Even with this you know,
rules package, like we were a little bit it's like
it's packaged, it's pitched a little bit aggressively, but it's
not We tried not to clickbait it because it's like
we're you're gonna have a good time reading this, Like
we've tried to make it intriguing and fun and substantial,
but without being too heavy handed and without also just
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being too too tardy.
Speaker 5 (18:47):
Right, given that have you had have you had pushback
that was surprising for you?
Speaker 7 (18:56):
And tipping stuff really pushed pretty hard. People are upset
about tipping in a way that I think we have
to examine a little bit further. I think people feel
I think it's touching on something about people feeling taken.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
Advantage of Yeah, and tipping.
Speaker 7 (19:10):
It's not about like is the world fair, our workplace
is fair. It's sort of like I'm.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
Giving all I can or are people taking advantage of me?
Speaker 7 (19:19):
And it's like pushing and tipping. A tipping conversation spirals
into these kind of dark places.
Speaker 5 (19:25):
Yeah, we did a whole episode on it here with
someone who is part of what they teach at university
is is tipping etiquette and what the new norms are
and how they're changing, and it is about, you know,
we got into a whole thing about I remember going
into something like a Starbucks. I don't think it was
a Starbucks, but I didn't order a coffee. I picked
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up a water bottle and something else that was on
the shelf, and I went to pay for it with
my card. And when they turned to tip the screen
around and had you know, TI ten percent and fifteen percent,
and I went, well, what's my application?
Speaker 4 (20:02):
You know, it's just and it has got.
Speaker 6 (20:04):
They turned the screen around, so the entire line is
now your audience to see either being Chap or I
can't believe he's a celebrity. He didn't do on the guy.
Yet all of a sudden, everyone has to know what
I tipped. And speaking of tipping, I think one of
yours was. Splitting the bill is just the easiest way
to do it. It's the right way to do it.
Speaker 4 (20:22):
I don't drink.
Speaker 6 (20:23):
When I go out with people who have a couple
of drinks man, and we split the bill, I do
it evenly, but I resent them for the rest of
their natural life.
Speaker 7 (20:30):
No, no, you don't you drink. My friend's big birthday.
Part of the day, there were just three of us.
They both drink. I don't drink.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
They know that, and I was like, you, guys, we
have to split this bill evenly.
Speaker 4 (20:40):
I can't.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
I can't.
Speaker 7 (20:41):
First of all, you're going to make me do bath
while I'm having a beautiful evening with my friends.
Speaker 6 (20:44):
Come on, so you don't care that they have a
bottle of champagne, a thing, a wine, a thing, and
you had a tomato soup.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
They had one hundred dollars bottle of wine, and I
had a seltzer.
Speaker 5 (20:54):
I will give you an example of something. It's interesting,
and I'll even credit it. The first time I ever
heard of it. It was Jerry Seinfeld, where if you
know that your intention is to cover the meal, to
pay for the meal, Jerry did a thing that I
heard about that I went, oh my god, that's brilliant.
Is he got to the restaurant early, gave him the
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card and said, don't even bring us a check, just
add a percentage for the tip and and it's and
I'm pre signing it and and that's it, so that
you know the meal ended. He said, well, this was great,
and you know, I'll see you guys next time, and
they're like, well, we have to get the bill, and
he went nowhere done, and nobody could go, oh.
Speaker 4 (21:36):
No, well you shouldn't. It was a curb episode. They
did a curb episode.
Speaker 5 (21:39):
But I actually thought that was and I've done that
on a number of occasions, but I thought that was a.
Speaker 4 (21:44):
Great Not enough with me anyway.
Speaker 6 (21:50):
I love Never wake up your significant other for any
reason to tell.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
You know this rule right, It's amazing, and yet people
do this.
Speaker 4 (22:00):
They feel it's important to wake up their spouse to
tell them side. I can imagine.
Speaker 5 (22:07):
I can imagine I've had kidney stones in my time.
I have woken my wife up to go, I'm having
a kidney stone, and if she was on our game,
she'd go, so what do you want me to exactly?
Speaker 6 (22:16):
I'm not going in to get it out? What the
hell is that about? But you want to share, guys.
Speaker 4 (22:21):
Well, you know, I guess I am wrong.
Speaker 5 (22:22):
If I've misdiagnosed and you'll find me down on the
bathroom floor.
Speaker 4 (22:26):
You shouldn't.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
You shouldn't die without informing your spouse.
Speaker 6 (22:28):
Yeah, you want them to know your exceptions to every rule.
If you're in pain, you want your spouse to share
that annoyance with you. By the way, yeah, you may
callously cancel almost any plans up until two pm.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
So this was a big thing that changed we think
from COVID on, you.
Speaker 7 (22:43):
Know what I mean, Like back in the day, there's
more and more notice Now it's like it's afternoon, it's lunch,
you're not going to dinner. Just tell them it's over.
I think people let each other off the hook a
lot more with plans now than they ever get before.
Speaker 6 (22:54):
It's okay, yeah, good for what you said prior to
this is how many times have you used the I
think I have COVID thing when you knew you didn't
have COVID?
Speaker 4 (23:02):
How many times show we one hand, two hands.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
A couple definitely a few times.
Speaker 5 (23:06):
I've never done that I think I have COVID. I've
said I'm feeling a little under the weather. But you know,
COVID is very specific.
Speaker 4 (23:15):
But you know what it does.
Speaker 6 (23:17):
It completely makes them forget about the cancelation and you're
a good person for thinking about their health and welfare.
Speaker 4 (23:25):
Oh, this is a good one. This is a good one.
I do this to Peter.
Speaker 5 (23:34):
Someone starts telling you a story you've heard you have
two reconds to stop them.
Speaker 7 (23:41):
No, listen, you two have known each other too long,
and he tells so many stories.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
Yeah, gotta happen like once a week.
Speaker 4 (23:46):
Yeah, oh easily.
Speaker 5 (23:47):
I let one slide today when Peter had to tell
you that he'd been written in radio talk right for
thirtys In the episode, there's some reference to him being
in talk right here for thirty years.
Speaker 4 (23:57):
He doesn't know me. It's kind of a different thing, right.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
He's famous to me from the stage.
Speaker 5 (24:06):
That's right out ouch in New York, in fact.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
But you can cut them off. You can be like,
that's right, you told me that just the other week.
I loved that story.
Speaker 6 (24:21):
No, Jason has to remind me, and if he doesn't
do it, he's got to figure out new ways to
do it.
Speaker 4 (24:25):
Punishing I heard it before. It's got to be.
Speaker 5 (24:31):
Half like how I disciplined friend's children.
Speaker 6 (24:33):
And people that I know have psychological You should also
mention we disciplined children.
Speaker 4 (24:38):
It's a little pinch under the arm.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
You should also get a couple's therapists on the show
to work with you two.
Speaker 5 (24:44):
Oh my gosh, what is the English one? Wrankled anybody?
I just love the way it was said to I
think I'm calling it correctly. If you if you saw
someone shoplifting, No you didn't, really don't.
Speaker 4 (24:59):
You don't.
Speaker 5 (24:59):
You don't say it's not if you see something saying
something that's not good, if.
Speaker 7 (25:03):
Your if your mom owns the store, maybe maybe it's different.
But we think generally in turnstile jumping and like and
you know, finger grabbing, you know, taking a little stuff
off the shelves.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
It's happening. You don't know why it's happening. You don't
know where it's going. Mind your business.
Speaker 4 (25:18):
Hold on, how about an armed robbery?
Speaker 7 (25:21):
Armed robbery, you should seize the weapon from the robbery.
Speaker 4 (25:26):
Yeah, Corey, even you too, you have it in you. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (25:31):
Before you go, can I ask you one question about
style and fashion? Since you were the style editor for
a long time, what is your what's the late breaking
fashion for for men women coming up into twenty twenty four?
Speaker 7 (25:42):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (25:42):
Mostly near nudity.
Speaker 4 (25:45):
I'm sorry you're near nudity.
Speaker 7 (25:48):
Like I would say, like what you're seeing in fashion,
and I think you're going to see this as it is.
It keeps up this summer and in LA in particular,
you're going to see more tops and bottoms of ueles, butts,
more under boob more over, like you're just going to
see people basically neck it.
Speaker 4 (26:02):
Why because it feels great and.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
It's hot out, because global warming? Because nothing matters.
Speaker 4 (26:07):
I don't know, well seriously does it?
Speaker 5 (26:10):
Is it also indicative of a different attitude about I mean,
some of it is just.
Speaker 4 (26:19):
Decorum vanity.
Speaker 5 (26:20):
Uh, you know, I was brought up you just don't
wear certain things like I would never wear flip flops
on an airplane.
Speaker 4 (26:29):
I mean, you know, it's just that kind of thing
that sad. Yeah, I know, I know. And And is that.
Speaker 5 (26:36):
Is that because generations coming up are going, no, the
hell with that stuff? If you be be who you are,
dress how you dress, if you want to show your body,
show your mother. Are we coming up to a time
where it will be no big deal for anybody male, female,
or whatever gender they identify with to be topless on
the street and we all just go fine.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
I honestly think we're getting kind of close.
Speaker 7 (26:59):
I mean, we live in New York City where where
toplessness of all genders is legal on the street, which
is not something that will take advantage of.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
Every day, right, But it's like more and more like
I think.
Speaker 7 (27:11):
We're seeing things that resemble toplessness in people, and it's
I don't know where it's going.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
It's sort of fascinating. I don't know what it means.
Does it means freedom, doesn't mean outrageousness. Is it attention seeking?
Speaker 7 (27:23):
Is it a social media consequence or is it just
the next great thing because people always have to try
something new.
Speaker 6 (27:28):
I don't And body positivity, I guess people feel more
comfortable in the bodies and less judge. So that could be.
That could be you see Kanye West. There's not much
clothing on Kanye West girlfriend at any given time. You
would see at a swim cluck, not on the street,
but it's out there and it's so what.
Speaker 5 (27:43):
But I always, you know, part of me, I always
wondered if we if we did have more public nudity,
if we'd finally get over all this body stuff. You know,
the biggest clickbait in the world is uh so and
so side boob.
Speaker 4 (27:58):
You know, you know, well that's something.
Speaker 7 (28:00):
It's like, I do think that something, and I think
like actually Brianna and her under our line and like
stuff like that has done good work with this is
like what you're saying this as good as that, like
people's people's bodies don't always look ideal, Like I don't know,
I mean mine is amazing, but like you know, but
like this is not that not even looks great for
every angle. And I think that we're gonna I think
young people are doing a good job of saying like,
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like this is my unideal body.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
It is the body I will be living it until.
Speaker 7 (28:24):
I die, and like we're gonna have to get this,
so enjoy some of this cellu light in some of
this man's lab and like let's move along.
Speaker 6 (28:31):
Well, Corey, I want to thank you and your perfect
body for company. I'll continue to such with the magazine. Coreye,
thank you very much for coming.
Speaker 4 (28:52):
And you know, this.
Speaker 5 (28:53):
Seems like and we did have fun with Corey and
and I'm so thrilled that we did, because a lot
of the stuff that he that he and his team
are coming up with.
Speaker 4 (28:59):
Are just and silly.
Speaker 5 (29:00):
But there's also that we we got onto a couple
of them that are like, yeah.
Speaker 6 (29:06):
Dude, we did an entire episode about public behavior, and
it's degenerating. People have throwing stuff on stage with performers.
Why would why would you feel the need that it's okay,
do we need somebody to come down from a mountain. Go,
don't to do that for people that are singing?
Speaker 4 (29:21):
What's that about? What does that behavior about? So better?
If you're worse?
Speaker 6 (29:24):
It's I think it's I understand that, mister google him.
That was kind of interesting, fascinating about rules. One of
the rules is we end with you.
Speaker 8 (29:33):
Yeah, I've been breaking most of them, but now I
know that i'll be breaking them. My question was, I
hate putting you on the spot there, but well, first
of all, I do have a correction. It's Kanye West's.
Speaker 4 (29:47):
I forgot you know what.
Speaker 6 (29:48):
Yeah, I forgot that she got married due censorio or
whatever her name is. I believe I forgot because I
forgot that the wedding gown was like a white uh
nipple nipple plan?
Speaker 4 (30:00):
Yeah, I forgot. Oh nice. Nice.
Speaker 8 (30:03):
But my question was for either one of you, if
you want to you want to take it, what was
the rudest thing that you've ever done or witness.
Speaker 4 (30:13):
In your life?
Speaker 8 (30:14):
The rudest thing, the rudest thing that like, oh my god,
I can't believe either I did that or someone else
did that to me or around me.
Speaker 4 (30:23):
I just thought of what it was for me? Do
you know yours? Wow, I'm trying to think you know.
So I was.
Speaker 6 (30:29):
I went out with a couple of people from my
birthday to a restaurant and we were in it was
it was the COVID post COVID, but it was still
like in a big tent for the tables that's up
and we were in the corner, way in the corner.
And apparently and my whole family saw this, but I
wasn't privy to it. Another family sat down with a
teenage boy and the teenage girl and the husband. The
father lost it was started railing at the daughter took
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her phone, ripped it out of her hand and threw
it across the restaurant and it whizz. I didn't see
any whizz by my head ricocheted off the wall, and
people were running out to ask guard table from the restaurant,
and I didn't know what was going on because it
was so dramatic and so over the top, and so
it was unsettling for my family watching somebody treat their
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daughter that. When then they sat down and continued to eat,
but whiz, the phone passed my head like a fastball,
ricocheting off the wall and having that kind of outburst
at a restaurant was pretty bad.
Speaker 5 (31:25):
Yeah, I think Listen, I'm sure I would not be
proud of it. I don't know, but I'm not thinking
of something I've done. I'm sure I've been perceived to
be rude or maybe I've been routed at some point.
Speaker 4 (31:37):
But the.
Speaker 5 (31:40):
Thing I remember, and I won't name names, but my
family was at a restaurant with other people at our table,
and granted we didn't have the best service I've ever seen,
but it was also very clear that the person waiting
on us was a bit overwhelmed. It was it was
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pre theater. Things had to move, and we we were
fair of the watch table. We had ten people at
our table, and some of the people in the other
party were openly disparaging and condescending and insulting, and I
just I cannot. That just makes me crazy when you
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know it's just it's just not the enough set. It
makes me crazy. But when I see stuff like who
are you? Who are you sitting in judgment of I'm
not in judgment. I released judgment. That's why I forget.
You will leave something else student insulting. Sorry, David, thank
you producer, Laurie, thank you? It is a Laurie Amir Elizabeth?
(32:42):
Who am I forgetting? Who our children or son Noah
are announcer? Who else is on our team? That we
should it's we're on.
Speaker 4 (32:49):
A team a budget, we're out a budget, We're done?
Should I sing another song that we can't? Pat By
the way and.
Speaker 5 (32:56):
The guy hammering and dwelling next door, let's think, Howie
Mandelan isn't higher studio here?
Speaker 6 (33:01):
And I want to know if the bookcases for maybe
they were making a bookcase or some gift for us.
Speaker 5 (33:04):
I think they're trying to replace the metal corrugated door
that separates us from the sounds of the rest of
the studio, not knowing that metal is a fantastic ractor.
Speaker 6 (33:12):
What's the movie where the zombies are running eight hundred
miles an hour and killing people, oh, twenty eight hours later.
I feel like when they put the door down, it's like,
twenty eight hours later they're keeping out some evil.
Speaker 5 (33:24):
Thank you new rule no hammering outside of good night, everybody.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
Really, that's another episode of really, no really comes to
a close. I know you're wondering what pandemic based innovations
and technologies are here to stay forever. That answer in
a moment, but first let's thank our guest, Corey Seka.
You can read more of the new rules in New
York Magazine under the articles titled do you know how
to Behave?
Speaker 3 (33:46):
Are you Sure?
Speaker 2 (33:47):
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at Corey seeka and on x where he is simply.
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of those pandemic based innovations and technologies that.
Speaker 3 (34:40):
Are never going away. Number one.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
As struggling restaurants looks for ways to keep revenue flowing,
they ask cities and states to allow them to provide
cocktails to go with takeout orders.
Speaker 3 (34:51):
So if our thirty five states.
Speaker 2 (34:52):
Have adopted ordinances allowing the continued sale of cocktails to go.
Speaker 3 (34:57):
Number two.
Speaker 2 (34:57):
Before COVID medicare only allowed for telehealth visits in rural
areas during the pandemic, though the practice grew so patients
could get medical help without leaving home and potentially.
Speaker 3 (35:08):
Spreading the virus.
Speaker 2 (35:09):
The practice is now immensely popular with patients and physicians alike,
and the use is common and low cost.
Speaker 3 (35:15):
Number three.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
mRNA technology allows a vaccine to target virus cells without
having to inject the virus itself. The technology broke through
with the COVID nineteen vaccine and is fast becoming the
newest and most promising technology for other diseases and treatments.
Number four Those incredibly cute and annoying robot deliveries. No
longer do we send three bags of chips in a
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two ton car burning gallons of gas. We simply placed
them in a lunch box with wheels and send it
economically to its lucky recipient, So please resist the urge
to kick them, because they're here to stay. Number five
Zooming became a god send during the pandemic. Separated families
and friends could actually visit, seeing each other and responding
in real time. For hospital patients who could not have visitors,
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zoom often was the only way to bring comfort or
say goodbyes. Now it is a mainstay of business and
social interaction.
Speaker 3 (36:09):
And it's not going anywhere. A Number six streetereries.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
When real indoor dining became impossible, restaurants opened their doors,
claimed some sidewalk space or a few parking spots, and
set up there covered heated, weather proof all.
Speaker 3 (36:21):
Fresco dining areas.
Speaker 2 (36:23):
It expanded seating capacity, and amazingly, people seem to actually
like being out in the world while enjoying a meal.
Fancy that it all goes to show that when humankind
faces great challenges, great ideas are born. It would be
really great if we didn't have to do the great
challenges first, but you know, we're working on it.
Speaker 4 (36:45):
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Really now, really.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Really now really Hello, and welcome to Really No Really
Jase Now, Elexander and Peter Tilden remind you that if
you listen to and enjoy our show, it is proper
etiquette to subscribe. Now, let's talk a little bit about etiquette,
because in our post COVID world, societal rules have changed.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
And a host of brand new rules have emerged.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
But the vast majority of us are unaware of these
rules and unsure about how to consider and implement them.
But not the good folks at New York Magazine, who
have codified and clarified the guidelines on how we should
all be living into one hundred and ninety four modern
etiquette rules for.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
Life after COVID Really No Really, Today, we.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Chat with New York Magazine editor Corey Seeka, who previously
made waves as co editor at Gawker and was the
former editor.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
At the styles desk of The New York Times.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
You'll learn whether it's okay to email, text, or dam
at any hour, whether it's now acceptable to discipline your
friend's children, and if there's ever a time when it's
acceptable to be a Karen assuming your name is not
actually Karen, in which case it's usually fine.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
Here's Jason and Peter.
Speaker 4 (01:16):
So we're talking today.
Speaker 5 (01:17):
We're going to talk about rules, rules in the new world,
because honestly, it feels like like society is changing rapidly. Yes,
and the sort of etiquette, the dues and don'ts that
I grew up with when Anne Landers was the go
to and the guru and you they're not necessarily holding
try some of them do.
Speaker 4 (01:38):
Some of them are time test.
Speaker 6 (01:39):
There's also a new technology that's knew everything so so.
And by the way, I know, one of the new
rules that we're going to be talking about in a
minute is you can use COVID as an excuse for anything.
Because I think one of the writers, either the person
we're talking to or somebody who did the research, said,
you know what, we got to turn into a positive.
We got to use it somehow us for a positive.
And I admit there have been quite a few times
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where I said I think I may have COVID, and
I just I don't want You've used it? Yes, come on, Jay,
look at me in the eye.
Speaker 5 (02:09):
But no, what I'll tell you how I've used it
because it's been a net positive for me when I
particularly when I fly.
Speaker 4 (02:17):
I continue to use the face mask, which.
Speaker 5 (02:19):
Is brilliant because it helps cut down on the recognizability.
And it's just it's a little less can I can?
Speaker 4 (02:26):
How much does that work? The recognizability is that about
fifty to fifty? If I talk, forget it, I guess
my voice has become But most of the time people
don't see it.
Speaker 5 (02:34):
But if I have, if I have any kind of
facial hair and a hat and my sunglasses and the mask,
it's pretty good.
Speaker 4 (02:42):
Bye, way pretty good. So let's do the new rules.
You want to get, So this is you got a
guy of the new rules.
Speaker 6 (02:49):
Corey Seeka is a writer, a blogger, an editor a
New York magazine, was the editor of the New York
Times Star Section. Also, he wrote a book called Very
Recent History, an extremely fact account of for a year
in a very large city, which seems to be a
very interesting book. And he was involved in all of
these new rules, the new rules for the way we should.
Speaker 4 (03:09):
Live and now. And it's lovely to meet you, lovely
welcome to thanks for having me.
Speaker 6 (03:15):
Absolutely so the new the new rules. Let's get into
a bunch of you. You bring up the ones that
you like the best and then we can talk about pushback.
We can talk about all kinds of stuff once we
hear the ones that resonate with you the most.
Speaker 7 (03:27):
Sure, I mean, and this all happened here because I
don't know what your experiences were like.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
But you know, people got a little fuzzy, like a
lot of us.
Speaker 7 (03:35):
I mean, I know you two gentlemen don't always work
in an office, but like a lot of stuff point
of offices and like you know, Bill Bluster, sort of
the basic ways of like how we all like intertwine
and get along.
Speaker 5 (03:46):
Sure, so what are the some and that is the
and that generated the new rules? But before you jump
into what some of these new rules are? How how
how do I ask this? How do you have the
stones to be the operator of these rules?
Speaker 4 (04:01):
Who decided you no? Serious?
Speaker 5 (04:03):
How did you come to go? I think I could
I could be a good arbiter for lack of a
better word of what is right?
Speaker 4 (04:10):
What is wrong? Or the or the even the progenitor
of such rules.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
That's a that's a very fair question with many excellent
words in it.
Speaker 7 (04:21):
Yeah, so we we did. We had a team at
New York, like we did this as a group together.
It was sort of a group homework project, and we
also like pulled the entire staff.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
We pulled our friends.
Speaker 7 (04:30):
Like we spent a lot of time making lists and
then making fun of each other.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
And then and then we wouldn't kick the tires.
Speaker 7 (04:36):
So people would tell us ideas for a rule, and
then we'd like go try it out, and they sometimes worked,
and they sometimes did, so like we do, we get
a little rotesting.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
You know, it was pretty. It was pretty. It was pretty.
You know, at the end of the day, we were
some of it was just for fun though.
Speaker 5 (04:50):
Sure sure, all right, So with that in mind, now
that I know we're talking to a bona fide expert,
not just some guy.
Speaker 6 (04:57):
Do you put these these are some pushback, we'll talk about.
Speaker 4 (05:01):
The push break.
Speaker 6 (05:01):
Oh yeah later, Okay, I'm sure something we have here.
Speaker 4 (05:05):
So we have favorites, But what are some of your favorites?
Speaker 5 (05:08):
What are the ones that have proven to be either
really fun or really accurate?
Speaker 1 (05:14):
So I mean, and also.
Speaker 7 (05:15):
Some of this and I'll give you one here, but
like and it'll play differently in LA, then it'll play
in New York, then they'll play in Chicago. So like
they always don't forget that etiquette is sort of local too.
So one of my favorites is if you've met someone
and they're like trying to place you, just be like, Hi,
we've met I'm Corey, you know what I mean, Like
you just come out and sort of reintroduce yourself as somebody.
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People will get offended, but like we've forgotten that. Like,
you know, we think everyone knows each other's names. You
see someone's face on social media, you know, it's like
you gotta you gotta give them a little, a little hand,
just give him a little help.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
And so little ones like that make me really happy.
Speaker 5 (05:52):
Yeah, that's My wife has a thing called, uh, I
think I'm saying it right, plazo pagnostia, where she has
face blindness.
Speaker 4 (06:00):
She really does not chronic the way I've met some
people do.
Speaker 5 (06:03):
But if she hasn't spent a fair amount of time
with you, and she hasn't seen you in the day two, three, four,
she will not recognize your face immediately. And so it's
of great help if somebody says, Hi, I'm so and so.
We met at so and so's party, and she's, oh, god,
thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
So Yeah that makes you feel good.
Speaker 6 (06:20):
Right, Wait a minute, So now, I can go up
to people who I don't give a didn't learn the name,
didn't bother and go, Hi, I have p plagnocy.
Speaker 4 (06:28):
Yeah say that? All right? What else you got, Corey?
What are the rules that we should know? You know?
Speaker 1 (06:32):
A similar vein? Like we're going with basics here.
Speaker 7 (06:35):
Like the thing we finally realized was, whenever you tell
someone they look like someone else, you're just being Can
I say.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
You're just being an ass?
Speaker 7 (06:42):
Like it's just like even if it's like even if
it's like I'm saying like, oh you look like Tom Cruise,
you're gonna be like the.
Speaker 4 (06:48):
You know what I mean? Like, you can't win.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
There's no no one. No one feels good here. Just
don't ever see one.
Speaker 5 (06:54):
All right, let me let me see if I can
turn it into a year. So I understand not going
up to somebody and going, hey, you know who.
Speaker 4 (07:00):
You look like?
Speaker 5 (07:01):
But is it okay if I go if somebody says, hey,
look for my friend, Uh, they're gonna be at the diner.
Speaker 4 (07:07):
I may be they're a little late. Is it okay
to go? Who does he look like?
Speaker 1 (07:11):
Oh yeah, that's a good one. That's fun.
Speaker 7 (07:13):
That's fine because then you get to play a little
game with them, and that's sort of like cute and
on your own.
Speaker 6 (07:17):
Keep that right, you're right here, Well, hold on, I
got something on my throw Sean Hayes A little bit.
Speaker 4 (07:23):
Really, yeah, a little bit, A little bit. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
See, it doesn't feel good.
Speaker 4 (07:26):
I just want to now.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
I just feel like I'll feel like I'm the failed actor.
And he had the.
Speaker 5 (07:33):
Sorry, I just had to test it, right, okay, yes,
all right, look at him.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
I just really.
Speaker 4 (07:42):
Changed his behavior. I'm so sorry. I just had to
test It was a joke. It was.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
As long as it's fun, as long as we're laughing out.
Speaker 4 (07:48):
But she now, yeah there, yeah, I get that all
the time. So what can I tell you? It feel
makes you, makes you feel I get that.
Speaker 5 (07:57):
I get people all the time going, does anyone ever
to you look like the actor on sein film?
Speaker 4 (08:02):
I get that? He said a lot. I go every day.
That's all what I say.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
You gotta have a good stock line for these things.
You gotta try them.
Speaker 4 (08:09):
Out, you know what.
Speaker 6 (08:09):
Just all of a sudden turned said, We're gonna rule
our way out of this guary for years.
Speaker 7 (08:16):
Here's an important one, all right, So you know, every
once in a while, you end up doing karaoke.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
You guys probably do this like once a week karaoke.
Speaker 4 (08:22):
Sure, yes, you're out there every three times. In fact,
let's meat this up. I gotta be home for carry four.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
Like it's like lunchtime in l A.
Speaker 7 (08:32):
The You should a lot of songs contain words that you,
particularly if you are a white person.
Speaker 4 (08:37):
Should not repeat.
Speaker 5 (08:38):
Sure, I don't tend to put those in my karaoke playlist,
but listen.
Speaker 7 (08:43):
It happens like so you know the world is crazy,
but like that's just there's a word you you you
substitute a nice word like friends.
Speaker 4 (08:50):
Sure, yep, you know that's part of that.
Speaker 6 (08:53):
By the way, I remember, for your listeners, if you're white,
you must call him fifty cents.
Speaker 5 (08:57):
Right, you don't call him yeah.
Speaker 4 (09:04):
All right.
Speaker 5 (09:05):
It's just when you guys came up with that one
about you know, substitute words if you're white. Did was
that because someone in the group knew of someone who
got that wrong and.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
In some cases got it got it right.
Speaker 7 (09:20):
Like I actually had seen a white friend like really
reasonably and like nicely maneuver through a karaoke session that
could have been incredibly fraught and could have.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
Got is like the wrongest night of all time.
Speaker 4 (09:33):
Wow, she did great.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
She totally was like and I thought, you know what,
I am glad I saw this.
Speaker 4 (09:40):
Yeah. Yeah, this was the only one.
Speaker 5 (09:43):
There were many in the lists that jumped out at
me as both yes indeed, and some that I have
questions about, But this was the one that really I went,
I have a question because I don't even know what
it quite means. There's one that is simply says, always wink.
What does that mean?
Speaker 1 (10:02):
So like don't you find like, listen, we're we're men
of a certain age, Like don't you find.
Speaker 7 (10:06):
Like certain like uh like mannerisms just like charming.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
It's just like we've decided that this was like winking
is a communal charming?
Speaker 7 (10:18):
Uh, like bringing people together kind of like think we
should bring back. It's a little a little dated, you
know what I mean? And like people should feel like
they're on a joke.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
With you at all times.
Speaker 5 (10:28):
So are you using it for the I get it?
I'm kidding, I got it, you got one. You got it?
Speaker 2 (10:33):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
And it's a little campy, it's like a little big belt.
Speaker 6 (10:36):
Yeah, but why do I feel that they can get
you to hr immediately at work.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
I mean, you're not supposed to wink and smackle on
the end.
Speaker 5 (10:45):
No, I understand that it's sort of like nice, you know,
like good meeting.
Speaker 6 (10:50):
I'm going right to write to the principal's office at
that point. The other one that got me that was,
and I know there's some pushback, is if you're going
to a dinner party, don't tell them you allergic to this.
Speaker 4 (11:01):
You're glued free. And yes, right, I have that one.
I don't foist your algy.
Speaker 6 (11:07):
Which is, by the way, if I'm the host of
the party I'm going to I'm going to ask, right.
Speaker 4 (11:12):
But I have people all the time.
Speaker 6 (11:13):
We had somebody was well known, well known, the wife
is well known, and said to my wife, we said,
we're going to have some Mexican food, and they went,
I don't eat Mexican food. So we had Mexican food
and Italian food, and then she proceeded the Italian food
and the Mexican Mexican food.
Speaker 5 (11:29):
I have a friend who only within the last couple
of years became vegan.
Speaker 4 (11:34):
We used to have them over for.
Speaker 5 (11:35):
Barbecues vegan, and now I go, I don't want to
have to take care of you. I don't want to
have to open a whole of the section just for you.
It's like having a kosher home. This is the meat section,
this is the dairy sect.
Speaker 4 (11:52):
Rabbi, that's over there. So Cory, what do you say,
what's the definitive on that?
Speaker 7 (11:56):
I mean, listen, this is again, this is going to
read a little differently in LA because in LA you're
going to get the whole laundry list.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
Oh it's night shades.
Speaker 7 (12:04):
Yeah, right, exactly so, and that's fine, Like that's just
the culture of Los Angeles. That's you know, you guys
did this yourself, So it's you know what, honestly, you
should take care of yourself, like you honestly, Like there's
things I don't eat.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
There's things I don't drink. I don't eat, and I
don't drink them, and I leave everyone in the hell.
Speaker 4 (12:19):
Oh yeah, yeah, you know what, It's exactly right.
Speaker 6 (12:22):
And by the way, you can eat later on the
way home, getting in an outburger or something not that
you're not going there to eat, going there to sociale.
Speaker 7 (12:27):
Right, all right, Although you know the new thing now
that everyone's on the drugs, on the ozempics and the whatnot,
is that people are like sort of forgetting. I saw
to a friend today. She said, I was at a
dinner party last night on a Sunday night, and people,
she put the chicken in it like ten pm because
she just didn't care. She wasn't hungry anymore, and like starting,
Oh my.
Speaker 5 (12:46):
God, I've never thought of that. Oh this could this
could be the end of.
Speaker 4 (12:51):
Or dinner party. No food. Yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 6 (12:55):
It's okay to email, text or direct message anyone at
any hour.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
All right, people are mad over this. Still, here's my deal.
Speaker 7 (13:05):
And people who are mad at us are like, my
mother is dying and I need to be able to
get texts from anyone at any time, Like you know what,
You're right, I'm sorry, But the rest of us are
in charge of our phones.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
Like I get my friends text me at two in
the morning.
Speaker 7 (13:18):
I have my phone notifications turned off because I'm in bed,
like that is part of being an adult now.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
And if you can't handle it, like get rid of
your phone.
Speaker 4 (13:27):
Oh right, I like it. I like it. Not only
do you have rules, you have consequences. I like it.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
Thank you. It's a global world.
Speaker 4 (13:35):
Going into the er now. I thought you should know.
You don't want me to a guilt text.
Speaker 7 (13:43):
You know, it's always either not important or it's just
really horny.
Speaker 6 (13:47):
Exactly, all right? How about this one. You can discipline
your friends your friends kids, but not the strangers discipline.
Have you ever disciplined your friends kids trying.
Speaker 7 (13:58):
To discipline their parents on because mostly what I'm seeing
with problem kids is just terrible parenting. I'm mad at
my best friend right now. Can you tell I'm mad?
I'm really worked up about this kid? Ah smack these parents.
The kids find the kids a kiddies blameless.
Speaker 4 (14:12):
So do the do the parents? But I discipplinting.
Speaker 6 (14:15):
Could you discipline a friend's kids, a friend's kid, a
friend's kid, Well, I.
Speaker 4 (14:20):
I think of discipline in a very different way.
Speaker 5 (14:23):
I'm not I'm not gonna you know, I'm not going
to spank, I'm not gonna yell at them. I have
absolutely said to a friend's kid who did something I went.
(14:48):
I have absolutely said to a friend's kid who did
something I went, you know that hurts my feelings.
Speaker 7 (14:58):
That's really good, that's a amazing. You know what I
wish you would discipline my whole family.
Speaker 4 (15:04):
Oh you did that?
Speaker 6 (15:04):
This is how well, that's it's it's the you. This
is this is how you make me feel.
Speaker 5 (15:08):
There's no it's not you know, I'm not gonna First
of all, I don't believe in corporate punishment, but I
mean I wouldn't.
Speaker 4 (15:16):
Yeah, I wouldn't threaten a child. I wouldn't, you know,
but I think you can. I think you.
Speaker 5 (15:22):
I think by the way I would say that to
to a strangers child, I would go, hey, listen, you
get to say what what you feel. But I just
want you to know what you've said. That's very, very nice.
You've heard my feeling. I think we're up, Laurie.
Speaker 6 (15:37):
Whatever kind of award though, podcast got for a nice
moment because it's our only one, and.
Speaker 5 (15:42):
You had one that I that I I don't. I
think I'm I'm still guilty of it and I and
I don't want to be.
Speaker 4 (15:51):
It's something I've really worked on.
Speaker 5 (15:52):
But this is a really good one where you wrote
listening is not the time to silently rehearse what you
want to say next, and I think so many of
us are to really be a full listener is not
a skill we are taught, and it's not one that's
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easily acquired. What was the reaction to that one ory.
I mean, is it something that if you guys, you know,
put it down. Is it something that came up a
lot in your group, or is it something that someone
was working.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
On or Yeah, it was a little personal this one.
Speaker 4 (16:29):
It was.
Speaker 7 (16:30):
And this was sort of a sleeper like this one
didn't get a lot of attention, but actually when we
did talk about it with people, it was like it
it always led to these kind of intense, like serious
moments like this, which I really appreciate, Like this one.
I mean, I'm not I hope he doesn't listen, but
I'm going to say this one came up with my
spouse and part of it was like we were sometimes
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having conversations and I was like I can see him
looking up and thinking about what he wants to put
in next.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
I'm still saying.
Speaker 7 (16:57):
My words, and I was like, you know, and I
would be like, hey, I need you to come back
and like, you know, make the eye contact. So this
came out of this experience, but a lot of people,
a lot of really good talks with people about this one.
Speaker 5 (17:11):
Yeah, because because a lot of people can be you know,
I wonder, I really do want to It just gets
philosophical with me.
Speaker 4 (17:17):
I wonder.
Speaker 5 (17:19):
If that that tendency to be activated by something we
hear and you start preparing your response before you hear
fully is part of I wonder how much of being
triggered by something is because you've you've heard the thing
that is triggering, but you haven't heard the context, you
haven't heard the intent, you haven't heard you know that
(17:42):
it's I just and and I'll be the first to say,
I'm not, I'm not incredibly great.
Speaker 7 (17:48):
It's hard on us and I talk a lot of
this up to all of our attention spans mine included,
which is not great. But also like we're I think
for us in the media, we're in a funny business
and we're a serious magazine and we're a fun magazine also,
but like we're not we're trying to bridge a distance,
at the distance between saying like I want you to
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read this thing and here's why it's important, and I
want it to be a little bit salty and a
little bit sassy at the same time.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
But I also don't. But I also don't.
Speaker 4 (18:19):
I don't.
Speaker 7 (18:20):
We're not here in the business of like waving the
gross flag and like getting too little gin duck to
be mad for no reason. Even with this you know,
rules package, like we were a little bit it's like
it's packaged, it's pitched a little bit aggressively, but it's
not We tried not to clickbait it because it's like
we're you're gonna have a good time reading this, Like
we've tried to make it intriguing and fun and substantial,
but without being too heavy handed and without also just
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being too too tardy.
Speaker 5 (18:47):
Right, given that have you had have you had pushback
that was surprising for you?
Speaker 7 (18:56):
And tipping stuff really pushed pretty hard. People are upset
about tipping in a way that I think we have
to examine a little bit further. I think people feel
I think it's touching on something about people feeling taken.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
Advantage of Yeah, and tipping.
Speaker 7 (19:10):
It's not about like is the world fair, our workplace
is fair. It's sort of like I'm.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
Giving all I can or are people taking advantage of me?
Speaker 7 (19:19):
And it's like pushing and tipping. A tipping conversation spirals
into these kind of dark places.
Speaker 5 (19:25):
Yeah, we did a whole episode on it here with
someone who is part of what they teach at university
is is tipping etiquette and what the new norms are
and how they're changing, and it is about, you know,
we got into a whole thing about I remember going
into something like a Starbucks. I don't think it was
a Starbucks, but I didn't order a coffee. I picked
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up a water bottle and something else that was on
the shelf, and I went to pay for it with
my card. And when they turned to tip the screen
around and had you know, TI ten percent and fifteen percent,
and I went, well, what's my application?
Speaker 4 (20:02):
You know, it's just and it has got.
Speaker 6 (20:04):
They turned the screen around, so the entire line is
now your audience to see either being Chap or I
can't believe he's a celebrity. He didn't do on the guy.
Yet all of a sudden, everyone has to know what
I tipped. And speaking of tipping, I think one of
yours was. Splitting the bill is just the easiest way
to do it. It's the right way to do it.
Speaker 4 (20:22):
I don't drink.
Speaker 6 (20:23):
When I go out with people who have a couple
of drinks man, and we split the bill, I do
it evenly, but I resent them for the rest of
their natural life.
Speaker 7 (20:30):
No, no, you don't you drink. My friend's big birthday.
Part of the day, there were just three of us.
They both drink. I don't drink.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
They know that, and I was like, you, guys, we
have to split this bill evenly.
Speaker 4 (20:40):
I can't.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
I can't.
Speaker 7 (20:41):
First of all, you're going to make me do bath
while I'm having a beautiful evening with my friends.
Speaker 6 (20:44):
Come on, so you don't care that they have a
bottle of champagne, a thing, a wine, a thing, and
you had a tomato soup.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
They had one hundred dollars bottle of wine, and I
had a seltzer.
Speaker 5 (20:54):
I will give you an example of something. It's interesting,
and I'll even credit it. The first time I ever
heard of it. It was Jerry Seinfeld, where if you
know that your intention is to cover the meal, to
pay for the meal, Jerry did a thing that I
heard about that I went, oh my god, that's brilliant.
Is he got to the restaurant early, gave him the
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card and said, don't even bring us a check, just
add a percentage for the tip and and it's and
I'm pre signing it and and that's it, so that
you know the meal ended. He said, well, this was great,
and you know, I'll see you guys next time, and
they're like, well, we have to get the bill, and
he went nowhere done, and nobody could go, oh.
Speaker 4 (21:36):
No, well you shouldn't. It was a curb episode. They
did a curb episode.
Speaker 5 (21:39):
But I actually thought that was and I've done that
on a number of occasions, but I thought that was a.
Speaker 4 (21:44):
Great Not enough with me anyway.
Speaker 6 (21:50):
I love Never wake up your significant other for any
reason to tell.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
You know this rule right, It's amazing, and yet people
do this.
Speaker 4 (22:00):
They feel it's important to wake up their spouse to
tell them side. I can imagine.
Speaker 5 (22:07):
I can imagine I've had kidney stones in my time.
I have woken my wife up to go, I'm having
a kidney stone, and if she was on our game,
she'd go, so what do you want me to exactly?
Speaker 6 (22:16):
I'm not going in to get it out? What the
hell is that about? But you want to share, guys.
Speaker 4 (22:21):
Well, you know, I guess I am wrong.
Speaker 5 (22:22):
If I've misdiagnosed and you'll find me down on the
bathroom floor.
Speaker 4 (22:26):
You shouldn't.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
You shouldn't die without informing your spouse.
Speaker 6 (22:28):
Yeah, you want them to know your exceptions to every rule.
If you're in pain, you want your spouse to share
that annoyance with you. By the way, yeah, you may
callously cancel almost any plans up until two pm.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
So this was a big thing that changed we think
from COVID on, you.
Speaker 7 (22:43):
Know what I mean, Like back in the day, there's
more and more notice Now it's like it's afternoon, it's lunch,
you're not going to dinner. Just tell them it's over.
I think people let each other off the hook a
lot more with plans now than they ever get before.
Speaker 6 (22:54):
It's okay, yeah, good for what you said prior to
this is how many times have you used the I
think I have COVID thing when you knew you didn't
have COVID?
Speaker 4 (23:02):
How many times show we one hand, two hands.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
A couple definitely a few times.
Speaker 5 (23:06):
I've never done that I think I have COVID. I've
said I'm feeling a little under the weather. But you know,
COVID is very specific.
Speaker 4 (23:15):
But you know what it does.
Speaker 6 (23:17):
It completely makes them forget about the cancelation and you're
a good person for thinking about their health and welfare.
Speaker 4 (23:25):
Oh, this is a good one. This is a good one.
I do this to Peter.
Speaker 5 (23:34):
Someone starts telling you a story you've heard you have
two reconds to stop them.
Speaker 7 (23:41):
No, listen, you two have known each other too long,
and he tells so many stories.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
Yeah, gotta happen like once a week.
Speaker 4 (23:46):
Yeah, oh easily.
Speaker 5 (23:47):
I let one slide today when Peter had to tell
you that he'd been written in radio talk right for
thirtys In the episode, there's some reference to him being
in talk right here for thirty years.
Speaker 4 (23:57):
He doesn't know me. It's kind of a different thing, right.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
He's famous to me from the stage.
Speaker 5 (24:06):
That's right out ouch in New York, in fact.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
But you can cut them off. You can be like,
that's right, you told me that just the other week.
I loved that story.
Speaker 6 (24:21):
No, Jason has to remind me, and if he doesn't
do it, he's got to figure out new ways to
do it.
Speaker 4 (24:25):
Punishing I heard it before. It's got to be.
Speaker 5 (24:31):
Half like how I disciplined friend's children.
Speaker 6 (24:33):
And people that I know have psychological You should also
mention we disciplined children.
Speaker 4 (24:38):
It's a little pinch under the arm.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
You should also get a couple's therapists on the show
to work with you two.
Speaker 5 (24:44):
Oh my gosh, what is the English one? Wrankled anybody?
I just love the way it was said to I
think I'm calling it correctly. If you if you saw
someone shoplifting, No you didn't, really don't.
Speaker 4 (24:59):
You don't.
Speaker 5 (24:59):
You don't say it's not if you see something saying
something that's not good, if.
Speaker 7 (25:03):
Your if your mom owns the store, maybe maybe it's different.
But we think generally in turnstile jumping and like and
you know, finger grabbing, you know, taking a little stuff
off the shelves.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
It's happening. You don't know why it's happening. You don't
know where it's going. Mind your business.
Speaker 4 (25:18):
Hold on, how about an armed robbery?
Speaker 7 (25:21):
Armed robbery, you should seize the weapon from the robbery.
Speaker 4 (25:26):
Yeah, Corey, even you too, you have it in you. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (25:31):
Before you go, can I ask you one question about
style and fashion? Since you were the style editor for
a long time, what is your what's the late breaking
fashion for for men women coming up into twenty twenty four?
Speaker 7 (25:42):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (25:42):
Mostly near nudity.
Speaker 4 (25:45):
I'm sorry you're near nudity.
Speaker 7 (25:48):
Like I would say, like what you're seeing in fashion,
and I think you're going to see this as it is.
It keeps up this summer and in LA in particular,
you're going to see more tops and bottoms of ueles, butts,
more under boob more over, like you're just going to
see people basically neck it.
Speaker 4 (26:02):
Why because it feels great and.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
It's hot out, because global warming? Because nothing matters.
Speaker 4 (26:07):
I don't know, well seriously does it?
Speaker 5 (26:10):
Is it also indicative of a different attitude about I mean,
some of it is just.
Speaker 4 (26:19):
Decorum vanity.
Speaker 5 (26:20):
Uh, you know, I was brought up you just don't
wear certain things like I would never wear flip flops
on an airplane.
Speaker 4 (26:29):
I mean, you know, it's just that kind of thing
that sad. Yeah, I know, I know. And And is that.
Speaker 5 (26:36):
Is that because generations coming up are going, no, the
hell with that stuff? If you be be who you are,
dress how you dress, if you want to show your body,
show your mother. Are we coming up to a time
where it will be no big deal for anybody male, female,
or whatever gender they identify with to be topless on
the street and we all just go fine.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
I honestly think we're getting kind of close.
Speaker 7 (26:59):
I mean, we live in New York City where where
toplessness of all genders is legal on the street, which
is not something that will take advantage of.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
Every day, right, But it's like more and more like
I think.
Speaker 7 (27:11):
We're seeing things that resemble toplessness in people, and it's
I don't know where it's going.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
It's sort of fascinating. I don't know what it means.
Does it means freedom, doesn't mean outrageousness. Is it attention seeking?
Speaker 7 (27:23):
Is it a social media consequence or is it just
the next great thing because people always have to try
something new.
Speaker 6 (27:28):
I don't And body positivity, I guess people feel more
comfortable in the bodies and less judge. So that could be.
That could be you see Kanye West. There's not much
clothing on Kanye West girlfriend at any given time. You
would see at a swim cluck, not on the street,
but it's out there and it's so what.
Speaker 5 (27:43):
But I always, you know, part of me, I always
wondered if we if we did have more public nudity,
if we'd finally get over all this body stuff. You know,
the biggest clickbait in the world is uh so and
so side boob.
Speaker 4 (27:58):
You know, you know, well that's something.
Speaker 7 (28:00):
It's like, I do think that something, and I think
like actually Brianna and her under our line and like
stuff like that has done good work with this is
like what you're saying this as good as that, like
people's people's bodies don't always look ideal, Like I don't know,
I mean mine is amazing, but like you know, but
like this is not that not even looks great for
every angle. And I think that we're gonna I think
young people are doing a good job of saying like,
(28:20):
like this is my unideal body.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
It is the body I will be living it until.
Speaker 7 (28:24):
I die, and like we're gonna have to get this,
so enjoy some of this cellu light in some of
this man's lab and like let's move along.
Speaker 6 (28:31):
Well, Corey, I want to thank you and your perfect
body for company. I'll continue to such with the magazine. Coreye,
thank you very much for coming.
Speaker 4 (28:52):
And you know, this.
Speaker 5 (28:53):
Seems like and we did have fun with Corey and
and I'm so thrilled that we did, because a lot
of the stuff that he that he and his team
are coming up with.
Speaker 4 (28:59):
Are just and silly.
Speaker 5 (29:00):
But there's also that we we got onto a couple
of them that are like, yeah.
Speaker 6 (29:06):
Dude, we did an entire episode about public behavior, and
it's degenerating. People have throwing stuff on stage with performers.
Why would why would you feel the need that it's okay,
do we need somebody to come down from a mountain. Go,
don't to do that for people that are singing?
Speaker 4 (29:21):
What's that about? What does that behavior about? So better?
If you're worse?
Speaker 6 (29:24):
It's I think it's I understand that, mister google him.
That was kind of interesting, fascinating about rules. One of
the rules is we end with you.
Speaker 8 (29:33):
Yeah, I've been breaking most of them, but now I
know that i'll be breaking them. My question was, I
hate putting you on the spot there, but well, first
of all, I do have a correction. It's Kanye West's.
Speaker 4 (29:47):
I forgot you know what.
Speaker 6 (29:48):
Yeah, I forgot that she got married due censorio or
whatever her name is. I believe I forgot because I
forgot that the wedding gown was like a white uh
nipple nipple plan?
Speaker 4 (30:00):
Yeah, I forgot. Oh nice. Nice.
Speaker 8 (30:03):
But my question was for either one of you, if
you want to you want to take it, what was
the rudest thing that you've ever done or witness.
Speaker 4 (30:13):
In your life?
Speaker 8 (30:14):
The rudest thing, the rudest thing that like, oh my god,
I can't believe either I did that or someone else
did that to me or around me.
Speaker 4 (30:23):
I just thought of what it was for me? Do
you know yours? Wow, I'm trying to think you know.
So I was.
Speaker 6 (30:29):
I went out with a couple of people from my
birthday to a restaurant and we were in it was
it was the COVID post COVID, but it was still
like in a big tent for the tables that's up
and we were in the corner, way in the corner.
And apparently and my whole family saw this, but I
wasn't privy to it. Another family sat down with a
teenage boy and the teenage girl and the husband. The
father lost it was started railing at the daughter took
(30:53):
her phone, ripped it out of her hand and threw
it across the restaurant and it whizz. I didn't see
any whizz by my head ricocheted off the wall, and
people were running out to ask guard table from the restaurant,
and I didn't know what was going on because it
was so dramatic and so over the top, and so
it was unsettling for my family watching somebody treat their
(31:16):
daughter that. When then they sat down and continued to eat,
but whiz, the phone passed my head like a fastball,
ricocheting off the wall and having that kind of outburst
at a restaurant was pretty bad.
Speaker 5 (31:25):
Yeah, I think Listen, I'm sure I would not be
proud of it. I don't know, but I'm not thinking
of something I've done. I'm sure I've been perceived to
be rude or maybe I've been routed at some point.
Speaker 4 (31:37):
But the.
Speaker 5 (31:40):
Thing I remember, and I won't name names, but my
family was at a restaurant with other people at our table,
and granted we didn't have the best service I've ever seen,
but it was also very clear that the person waiting
on us was a bit overwhelmed. It was it was
(32:01):
pre theater. Things had to move, and we we were
fair of the watch table. We had ten people at
our table, and some of the people in the other
party were openly disparaging and condescending and insulting, and I
just I cannot. That just makes me crazy when you
(32:21):
know it's just it's just not the enough set. It
makes me crazy. But when I see stuff like who
are you? Who are you sitting in judgment of I'm
not in judgment. I released judgment. That's why I forget.
You will leave something else student insulting. Sorry, David, thank
you producer, Laurie, thank you? It is a Laurie Amir Elizabeth?
(32:42):
Who am I forgetting? Who our children or son Noah
are announcer? Who else is on our team? That we
should it's we're on.
Speaker 4 (32:49):
A team a budget, we're out a budget, We're done?
Should I sing another song that we can't? Pat By
the way and.
Speaker 5 (32:56):
The guy hammering and dwelling next door, let's think, Howie
Mandelan isn't higher studio here?
Speaker 6 (33:01):
And I want to know if the bookcases for maybe
they were making a bookcase or some gift for us.
Speaker 5 (33:04):
I think they're trying to replace the metal corrugated door
that separates us from the sounds of the rest of
the studio, not knowing that metal is a fantastic ractor.
Speaker 6 (33:12):
What's the movie where the zombies are running eight hundred
miles an hour and killing people, oh, twenty eight hours later.
I feel like when they put the door down, it's like,
twenty eight hours later they're keeping out some evil.
Speaker 5 (33:24):
Thank you new rule no hammering outside of good night, everybody.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
Really, that's another episode of really, no really comes to
a close. I know you're wondering what pandemic based innovations
and technologies are here to stay forever. That answer in
a moment, but first let's thank our guest, Corey Seka.
You can read more of the new rules in New
York Magazine under the articles titled do you know how
to Behave?
Speaker 3 (33:46):
Are you Sure?
Speaker 2 (33:47):
And you can follow Corey on Instagram where he is
at Corey seeka and on x where he is simply.
Speaker 3 (33:52):
At Corey No.
Speaker 2 (33:55):
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Speaker 3 (34:06):
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Speaker 2 (34:09):
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of those pandemic based innovations and technologies that.
Speaker 3 (34:40):
Are never going away. Number one.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
As struggling restaurants looks for ways to keep revenue flowing,
they ask cities and states to allow them to provide
cocktails to go with takeout orders.
Speaker 3 (34:51):
So if our thirty five states.
Speaker 2 (34:52):
Have adopted ordinances allowing the continued sale of cocktails to go.
Speaker 3 (34:57):
Number two.
Speaker 2 (34:57):
Before COVID medicare only allowed for telehealth visits in rural
areas during the pandemic, though the practice grew so patients
could get medical help without leaving home and potentially.
Speaker 3 (35:08):
Spreading the virus.
Speaker 2 (35:09):
The practice is now immensely popular with patients and physicians alike,
and the use is common and low cost.
Speaker 3 (35:15):
Number three.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
mRNA technology allows a vaccine to target virus cells without
having to inject the virus itself. The technology broke through
with the COVID nineteen vaccine and is fast becoming the
newest and most promising technology for other diseases and treatments.
Number four Those incredibly cute and annoying robot deliveries. No
longer do we send three bags of chips in a
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two ton car burning gallons of gas. We simply placed
them in a lunch box with wheels and send it
economically to its lucky recipient, So please resist the urge
to kick them, because they're here to stay. Number five
Zooming became a god send during the pandemic. Separated families
and friends could actually visit, seeing each other and responding
in real time. For hospital patients who could not have visitors,
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zoom often was the only way to bring comfort or
say goodbyes. Now it is a mainstay of business and
social interaction.
Speaker 3 (36:09):
And it's not going anywhere. A Number six streetereries.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
When real indoor dining became impossible, restaurants opened their doors,
claimed some sidewalk space or a few parking spots, and
set up there covered heated, weather proof all.
Speaker 3 (36:21):
Fresco dining areas.
Speaker 2 (36:23):
It expanded seating capacity, and amazingly, people seem to actually
like being out in the world while enjoying a meal.
Fancy that it all goes to show that when humankind
faces great challenges, great ideas are born. It would be
really great if we didn't have to do the great
challenges first, but you know, we're working on it.
Speaker 4 (36:45):
Really really is.
Speaker 3 (36:46):
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