June 18, 2024 • 38 mins
Sleep deprivation can lead to hypertension, compromised immunity, stroke, obesity, premature death, and a whole host of other serious maladies. Between 25 and 30 million Americans have insomnia at any given time; no wonder the newest trend in wellness is… “Sleep Tourism”. Really, no really!
But what exactly is “Sleep Tourism”? Jason and Peter were determined to find out, so they sought out global hospitality and travel expert Kaushik Vardharajan. And what they discovered was a world filled with A.I. powered beds, smart-sheets, quiet floors, and lots of fascinating hotel secrets you need to know. So, sit back, relax and maybe tonight, you’ll finally be able to get a good night’s sleep…
IN THIS EPISODE:
- A.I. powered beds, smart-sheets and mattress pads. Yes, those are real things.
- How hotels are capitalizing on our need for sleep.
- The “Weston Heavenly Bed” instituted a hotel mattress arms race.
- The difference between traditional and sleep tourist-quality rooms.
- Quiet floors and the hotels that enforce them.
- Hotel Secrets Exposed - You will be shocked!
- “Over Tourism” – It’s a real and destructive issue.
- The secret to avoiding horrific hotels.
- Jason explains how he avoids wife-induced hotel injuries.
- The top movies to fall asleep to.
- Google-heim: What’s with Jason’s mustache, who the F is Edgar Winter, and the word you shouldn’t use for people affected by albinism.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Really now, really.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Really now, really well and welcome to Really No Really
with Jason Alexander and Peter Tilden. Remind you that our
subscribers have been known to sleep better, deeper, and longer
than subscribers to other podcasts.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
Really no, not really, but please subscribe anyway.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Most of you are probably aware that sleep deprivation can
lead to a whole host of serious maladies, and that
millions of Americans suffer from insomnia. But did you know
that the newest trend in wellness is sleep tourism?
Speaker 1 (00:36):
Really no, really this time? So what exactly is sleep tourism?
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Jason and Peter decided to wake up and find out,
so they sought out global hospitality and travel expert Kashik
Vaarrajin and what they discovered was a world filled with
AI powered beds, smart sheets, quiet floors, and lots of
fascinating hotel secrets.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
You need to know.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
So sit back, take a deep breath, and hey, stay awake,
You're about to learn some stuff.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Okay, here's Jason and Peter.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
All right, I will I'm not gonna lie to you.
Speaker 4 (01:10):
I'm already a little tired. I'm exhausted up tired. You
look tired. Do I really? I hate Yeah, you look tired.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
I mean you have the bronze around you just still
look tired. How much what do you do you put
on the you put it.
Speaker 5 (01:23):
On every morning, A little bronze now A discussed Well, yeah,
like I do this.
Speaker 4 (01:27):
I mean, you know I have my eyebrows are falling out.
I don't have these a little something.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
But and this, this isn't the natural color of my mustache.
Speaker 5 (01:35):
If I didn't put on any kind of makeup for TV. Yeah,
I look like you can white balance on my face.
It's like I'm I'm ed gart Winter's brother.
Speaker 4 (01:44):
I am so white.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
Tale that the people go and you don't sleep. I
know a lot of that is because you don't sleep. Now,
I've gotten a little worse with age, but I can
still get six hours at a shot. But that would
be like that would be like you being able to
fly somedthingly that would be a.
Speaker 5 (02:00):
Two and a half to three hours. And I don't
know if that's my rhythm and that's why I am
genetically or after doing so many years of getting up
at three in the morning, three thirty that your body reseets.
Speaker 4 (02:09):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (02:11):
So the reason we started talking about sleep is we
saw that sleep tourism is the biggest travel trend for
twenty twenty four. Really no, really, no, really, so we
had to find people are traveling to go to sleep,
to go to sleep?
Speaker 4 (02:27):
Who's heard of that? Right? So we have an expert
on to talk about that. A. What is it? B?
Is it real?
Speaker 5 (02:33):
But before we go to that trend, I just thought
I'd look up some other other trends and travel No.
Speaker 4 (02:39):
One question before to clarify our shot.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
Is it sleep tourism or is it sleep destination sleep tourism.
I know that's what's written on your page, but I'm wondering.
When I hear tourism, I think there's going to be
an itinerary. When I hear I'm going to go to sleep,
I go I'm going to go to that place and
I'm going to shut down?
Speaker 4 (02:59):
Is it really? As far as you know.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
Before we talk to our guests, is it go to
a singular place for the purpose of sleeping or is
it You're going to go to several.
Speaker 5 (03:08):
Places, yes and go to yes, yes and yes. Okay,
it's all about anyway. Everybody's tired today. So we're going
to talk about that, but different types of tourism. I
thought I would throw your way and one of them,
I know you've you've done, which is pretty amazing.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
Adventure tourism where people do adventures, and we had Mike
Resan for that. Who does the craziestre's in the country.
There's the countries where you go you cover me, I'm
going to.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
My Jewish man goes to like the bottom of the ocean,
at the top of the mountain, and the places where
people have gone unbelievable.
Speaker 5 (03:41):
Agritourism travelers experience rural life on a farm and they
pitch you pitch it yes, and the farmer goes, we
have some more, ma.
Speaker 4 (03:50):
I thought that's where you sent. You know, kids would
get in trouble a lot.
Speaker 5 (03:53):
I think they're who's there, welcome kids getting off of drugs.
Alternative tourism or justane ability tourism where you go and
see interaction with governments and people about what they're doing
to sustain climate change, et cetera, so you're experiencing it.
Culinary tourism makes sense, sure. Dental tourism, excuse me now,
dental tourism where you go to have your teeth fixed
(04:15):
and it's cheaper. What's wrong with the corner expensive here?
But people go to other countries for dental tourism is
the reason it's cheaper. A disaster tourism.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
People love going to where there was, yes, Chernobyl, like
going to Chernobyl or going to this is where the
Titanic went down or this is what. Yeah, yeah, interesting,
Actually I could understand.
Speaker 4 (04:36):
I'd be fascinated to go to Chernobyl and see.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
Because it's kind of like, in a way like going
to Pompeii, because it happens so fast that you can
absolutely get a snapshot of what this life was like,
This community was life, and then it was abandoned in
a heartbeat.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
Go to three Mile On in Pennsylvania.
Speaker 5 (04:56):
Sure, keep it, yes, ch Yeah, you know what s
jetting is set jetting, jetting to different sets. Movie move Okay,
that's exactly. Oh oh we're stuff with film. They go
work stuff with film. This is exactly when I was
in New Zealand that was very big. Go see with
a hobbit town and then the one I love the most,
And I'm laughing when I found this because you do it.
(05:18):
It's swimming with the pigs when the story a bouton.
Speaker 4 (05:23):
That's a misnomer. You finish your thoughts.
Speaker 5 (05:25):
Okay, So the Bahamas Swimming with the Pigs tour where
you get an air conditioned vehicle, a boat ride, a
beach share, and then the pig encounter. Yeah, the pig
encounter is correct. You got karaoke and then special features.
You got pool table. You can do graduations, because that's
why I want my graduation. And then you'll have around
(05:45):
thirty minutes to meet, feed, play with and swim with
the resident pigs on Rose Island in the Bahamas.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
Okay, let me tell you what you don't do. You
do not swim with the pigs. You are on a
little dinghy or a little boat. You can feed the pigs.
If you're really brave, you can reach it out and
try and pet the pig. But let me just tell
you there are more people every year killed by pigs
than sharks.
Speaker 4 (06:10):
That is an absolute. That's an absolute.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
I noticed that there's pigs swimming in these open waters.
There's no sharks, which means even the sharks go. Don't
message these guys. You do not, Now, how did you
We have a friend who has a boat and we
were invited down to stay on the boat for several
days in the Bahamas, and then there's this other island.
Speaker 4 (06:33):
It's world famous.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
He's famous there where you can go down and they
have the swim the famous swimming pigs. And you're about,
you know, twenty feet off the shore, and son of
a gun, you bring watermelon rinds and oranges and things,
and the pigs will swim out.
Speaker 4 (06:48):
They'll swim right up to the boat.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
They'll put their little hoofs up on the dinghy and
you can feed them.
Speaker 5 (06:54):
So if you're fitting them as nice, if you fell
in the water, it would look like a frenzy and
there'd be blood. It's like draws.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
But those pigs, first of all, they're feral pigs. They're
not like you know, it's like not like your farmyard pig.
They're feral pigs. And you know, they have gigantic bottom teeth.
Speaker 4 (07:11):
Some of them.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
They're not warthogs, but they have like something that looks
like a little dusk tooth from the top.
Speaker 4 (07:17):
And you know they're they're right in front of them.
Let's get to our guests.
Speaker 5 (07:21):
But you know who I want to meet the guy,
the person, the marketing genius who said we got pigs here.
Speaker 4 (07:27):
What are we doing here?
Speaker 5 (07:28):
We can promote the tour at a fool table, at
a birthday ready.
Speaker 4 (07:33):
In the water.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
And you know what, my wife when she heard we
were going to Pig Island, she was like a six
year old girl.
Speaker 4 (07:39):
She was so excited.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
I have her on video screaming like she's on a
roller coaster having such a good time feeding these pigs
and oh baby, you know the baby talk in the
home and she had the best time.
Speaker 4 (07:53):
Up early today. We're going to Pig Island, going to
pick let's say hi to our guests.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
Now I'm gonna say his name wrong, but we call
him professor v but he is professor Kaushik var jahrjen
vard ho vod horizon Vard.
Speaker 4 (08:10):
Just chick one and stick with it.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
Koshik vard Horision. He's gonna correct me the minute he
gets in here. He's the associate professor of the practice
UH and director of the Real Estate and Innovation and
Entrepreneurship Programs at Boston University School of Hospitality Administration, where
I went.
Speaker 4 (08:25):
To school, not that department.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
Holds multiple degrees in hotel and restaurant management and hotel administration,
and is UH an resident expert on tourism in general
and sleep tourism in the specific.
Speaker 5 (08:39):
Yeah, that it's that, it's the big trend. So, doctor V,
how are you, Professor V? Professor V?
Speaker 6 (08:44):
Hi, Jason, Hi, Peter. Great to join both of you here.
Speaker 4 (08:48):
How how off was I on your last name? Professor V?
Speaker 6 (08:52):
You almost got it right? Uh, it's what that gent?
Speaker 4 (08:55):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (08:55):
See but now you say, now you've pronounced v's more
like a W water Jrhargen.
Speaker 4 (09:01):
It's what I just heard.
Speaker 7 (09:02):
Yeah, And I have never been able to figure that out.
People have told me that before. I can never tell
the difference between a V and a W.
Speaker 4 (09:10):
How are you what I say?
Speaker 3 (09:11):
I actually think that's cultural and it's just I find
it very charming.
Speaker 4 (09:15):
So wait a minute, if.
Speaker 5 (09:16):
You ever so if you drive a VW car here
and travel?
Speaker 4 (09:23):
Yeah, all right, a bug.
Speaker 5 (09:24):
So, professor, we saw that sleep perth is the biggest
trend in twenty twenty four. I know we're all we
are all sleep deprived. The hotel and that industry decided
this is where we're going to make our big money.
Speaker 4 (09:38):
It's a big niche and people lead. This is that accurate.
Speaker 7 (09:42):
The hotel industry is always focused on sleep no hotel
company out there or no hotel out there wants a
guest to stay at their hotel and not have a
great night sleep. And all hotels have done now is
come up with a different and a more holistic set
of solutions to help people sleep better.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
And can you talk about what those solutions are a
little bit? I mean, can you Is there a sort
of a checklist?
Speaker 4 (10:06):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (10:07):
So, and I think it starts with let's start of
the basics and then kind of work our way up,
so the mattresses have become better and better consistently. So
if you think about you know, back in ninety nine,
Western came up with the Western Heavenly Bed and truly
was exceptional, and suddenly you had a brand name bed.
And now suddenly everybody else started coming up with their
(10:29):
own brand name beds.
Speaker 5 (10:30):
I've read about that the Western Heavenly Bed. Is this
like the gold standard of beds? Did people start buying
the bed after they stayed at the Western and did
Western make money from this night?
Speaker 4 (10:40):
Oh?
Speaker 6 (10:40):
Absolutely?
Speaker 7 (10:41):
I mean a people started staying more at Western's because
they had this bed and they wanted to test it out.
And I can speak from personal experience, I mean I
was sleeping on an ikea bed that I had bought
a while ago. And when my wife became pregnant, we
were traveling and we stayed at a Western and she
loved the Western Heavenly Bed. And so when we came home,
(11:02):
the Ika bed was no longer cutting it. So we
got rid of the Ika bed and we got a
Western Heavenly bed. And you know, I was seventeen years ago,
and that Western Heavenly bed now is it's you know,
it's at my mom. My parents have it and they
have it in the guest room, and they won't give
it away, you know, and it's it's still great, and
it's a great bed.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
Western doesn't make did they make beds during the hotel base?
Didn't they run out and get a cert of mattress
and just throw it on a box spring and go,
we're calling it. They gave it a name. Now it's
the Western Heavenly Bed. They didn't actually invest money in
creating a bed, did they. They didn't actually invest money
(11:50):
in creating a bed, did they.
Speaker 7 (11:53):
Well, they put tons and tons of research into it. Yeah,
you're right that they didn't go into manufacturing, but they
had they brought in sleep experts. They brought in medical
experts to actually design other features. Right, we started talking
about the beds have become more fancy. Now you have
AI powered beds. You have sleep number beds that change
(12:13):
how soft or how hard they are. There are beds
that move and change position when you're sleeping to help
you sleep better. So they're constantly monitoring how you sleep.
They're asleep there. And if you don't want to buy
a whole expensive bed, they have these smart sheets and
smart mattress pads that you can just slip on an
existing mattress that will that has smart functions and features
(12:36):
that smart monitoring your sleeping, smart sheets and smart you know,
smart mattress.
Speaker 4 (12:41):
Pads smart you still have smart.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
I know you've just said something like, yeah, water is
for people to drink, But we are sitting there going
there are smart sheets and smart mattress pads.
Speaker 5 (12:52):
By the way, what happens if you put on a
smart mattress, a smart sheet, and a smart mattress that morning.
Speaker 4 (13:00):
It could pass an SAT score that I would never
get where the bed's going? Why is the schmuck line
on this? And here's the thing.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
If the bed is constantly adjusting I'm not gonna be honest.
Speaker 4 (13:09):
Thing, but what maybe instantly that means?
Speaker 3 (13:12):
But wait, if I push you, or I move you
up for a little bit, or I put a hand
on you when you're sleeping, or you need more pressure
here so the sheet suddenly goes grip. You're not waking
up from that. You know what, We're not breaking your
rim cycle.
Speaker 5 (13:26):
Well, if your shoulder hurts and it knows to adjust
because it can feel the pressure point, that would be one.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
It's not doctor McCoy. It's not giving you a shot.
How much is your sheet? Can I help your aching show?
Speaker 5 (13:37):
I'm assuming because we're in twenty twenty four and this
is the trend, it's a positive instead of a negative.
Speaker 4 (13:43):
Let's say that's true.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
I'm just saying, honestly, I'm I'm not joking really when
I say, if I know that that there are these
subtle accommodations that that mattresses and betting can make, and
I think that would wait, that would take me right,
have a rim cycle?
Speaker 4 (14:01):
Slept on one, professor, I have not the expert. The
expert said, not for me. He hasn't slept on. Now
I want to find out.
Speaker 5 (14:12):
I just got I got I want to find out
how smart sheets work.
Speaker 4 (14:15):
That's that's fascinating to me.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
Well, also, but you know, now you're covering yourself in
the electronics. They used to say, don't sleep within four
feet of your cell phone.
Speaker 4 (14:23):
Now people put the cell phone.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
Now you're you're covering yourself with electronics. And okay, I'm
not fit for this world. It's fine. Let me ask
you this. I know there's more things in the room
that we want to talk about. But as you're telling
me about the things in the room that make it
sleep friendly. If the central uh service that a hotel
provides is an essence, a wonderful place to rest on
(14:46):
your vacation to sleep, what is the relative cost of
elevating a room from a from a standard room to
a sleep tourism quality room?
Speaker 4 (14:56):
Why would I asked? Because I my and goes.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
Why wouldn't a hotel make every room in the hotel that.
Speaker 4 (15:06):
You know what I mean? Is it cost prohibitive to
achieve it?
Speaker 6 (15:10):
No, it depends on what you're talking about.
Speaker 8 (15:12):
Now.
Speaker 7 (15:12):
If you're talking about in an AI powered bed, which can
cost several thousand dollars, you know, five six, ten thousand dollars, Yes,
that probably is not something you're going to see in
a lot of hotels, and especially not in hotels that
are anything not luxury, right, But hotels in the industry
overall takes a very holistic view of what sleep tourism is. So, yes,
you know, I got too fixated on what's happening in
(15:33):
the room, but let's kind of step out of the
room and talk about other things. So there is a
combination of the spa. So it's a combination of therapies
that you can have, special treatments that you can have.
It could be a nutrition based so what you're eating
has an impact on how you sleep. Right, So there's
a whome sleep menu as far as what you should
(15:54):
and you should not be having, and they promote certain
menus if you want to sleep better. So it's a
combination of all of these features. There are hotels even
at the budget level that offer quiet rooms and quiet floors.
They are making sure that you have the basics that
you need in order to have a great night sleep.
Speaker 6 (16:14):
So that's always available.
Speaker 5 (16:15):
How did they do a quiet floor Because Jason and
I just went to Florida to do a show and
the guy next door, well.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
They were having some sort of you know, there was
an event, there was an occasion either for friends or
family and wedding a batchep.
Speaker 5 (16:29):
And so every night was noise like right there. How
do you ensure you have to sign an oath when
you check in that you will not take noise from
ten to two? And how do they enforce that they
have a noise police.
Speaker 7 (16:38):
So the hotel that I used to work on, we
would do a couple of things. One was that we,
you know, are the designated quiet floor. Was making sure
that the floor is away from any other sources of
noise in public areas in the hotel. Also very careful
with how the you know, and training the employees on
that floor so that when they're walking down corridors, they're
not on their phones, they're not talking to each other.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
Can you do a thing this because this is what
always gets me. It's the guy who has the five
am flight. So he's leaving the hotel at three point
thirty in the morning. He's got his bag. I understand
this problem. He's got his bag, he flings open the door,
zings his bag through the door, and the door slams.
Speaker 4 (17:21):
Like Vesuvius is erupting, and it's just you're never going
to train that guy. You can't write up until that moment,
he was quiet. That's you. That's me. We try to
be be. That is not me.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
I'm actually that's one of my most conscientious things.
Speaker 4 (17:36):
I actually you're like a church.
Speaker 3 (17:39):
I guess you could make the claim that that hotels
that have risen to the level being able to say
we accommodate sleep tourism is a therapeutic experience. To your knowledge,
does any health insurance sort of cover that as a
therapeutic treatment by staying in a specifically sleep tourism hotel.
Speaker 7 (18:03):
Not that I'm aware of. You have a niche because
if you look at the hospitality industry as a pyramid,
there are three aspects to that pyramid. One is just
the product. It's a room that you're staying in. Right,
And if you look back at your favorite trip, Jason
or Peter, I don't think your favorite trip memories involved
talking about the fact that, oh, do you know that
(18:24):
room was so cool because it was four hundred and
twenty five square feet in size, you know, and I
slept on a mattress that was eight inches in depth.
You're not going to focus on that, right, But the
Product's important if you had a really crappy room, and
if you had a really crappy mattress, that's something that
you will remember. But the product is just the first
part of it. Then the next part comes the hospitality.
Speaker 6 (18:43):
Right.
Speaker 7 (18:44):
I'm sure you've stayed at hotels that we're in ideal
or we're in the best, most upscale hotels that you've
stayed in. But this one single human interaction with either
somebody at the front desk or somebody at the restaurant,
somebody in the lobby just completely mediogo. Why that was
an exceptional experience, right, That was an expectional interaction, and
that was amazing hospitality. And to top it off is
(19:06):
something we call experiences, right, And as a school we
focus on experience innovation because experiences in the end kind
of top everything off. So it's a combination of product,
hospitality and experiences.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
And is experience the way you're talking about it, is
that something like having a meal in a room that
has an extraordinary view? Is that does that fall under
experience or can you specify what you mean by experiences?
Speaker 7 (19:33):
It could be that, right, It could be dining in
a beautiful you know, staying in a beautiful room with
a view of their cropplers, or you know you're staying.
Speaker 6 (19:40):
In you know you have this amazing view of the ocean.
It could be.
Speaker 4 (19:46):
You.
Speaker 7 (19:46):
You know, you stepped out of the room and you
came back. Housekeepings come in and they've done their usual thing.
But then there's a note saying, mister Alexander, I noticed
that your cologne was almost running out, so we went
and got to you a new bottle. I hope you
enjoy it. Right, It could be just it's it's not
that expensive. It doesn't have to be. It could be
(20:07):
something really small, but as long as it's unique and
special and especially thought through, and it is somebody took
that time to think about what you might need and
took care of that. But that's an experience.
Speaker 4 (20:18):
Here. See I fire differently than.
Speaker 3 (20:21):
I walked in. There was a new bottle of Mike coloone.
First of all, I don't have a coloon, so all
of a sudden, I go, who was in here with cologne?
But if they did that, I go, when are you
going through my stuff? You notice my cologne was almost done?
Don't touch my stuff.
Speaker 4 (20:34):
Get out of the road. You know what my best
experiences get in get out. You know what I would say.
Speaker 5 (20:39):
I have a friend who's in a hotel business, and
you know the storm I'm going to tell who said,
and it's a high end kind of a high end
hotel business.
Speaker 4 (20:44):
Who said, only we rent is a box. It's just
a box.
Speaker 5 (20:48):
So when the family goes out, they have kids, when
they come back, I have a picture of milk and
four huge chocolate chip cookies in the room for the kids.
Speaker 4 (20:56):
Cost me next to nothing.
Speaker 5 (20:57):
And the next time that family travel, the kids go,
I want to go to that hotel sure with the cookies.
Speaker 4 (21:02):
Professor.
Speaker 3 (21:03):
I got to ask it this Girt, because I have
a feeling you're going to know. I don't know if
you'll tell, but you'll definitely know. I walk into a
hotel room, what's not been cleaned? What shouldn't I touch
the bed spread? You know, the outermost cover. I'm assuming
that's not dry clean afterevergues. I mean there must be
things that you know you just can't do on a
(21:24):
day to day basis.
Speaker 4 (21:26):
So when the average person walks into.
Speaker 9 (21:28):
A good hotel room, a good one, is there still
things that you shouldn't assume are pristine, that you know
you might want to be wary of No.
Speaker 7 (21:40):
Really, if you're talking about a good hotel room with
a brand, I honestly, I mean I used to travel
four to five days a week, and I did that
for twenty years. Yeah, I've never walked into a hotel
and worried about cleaning spaces.
Speaker 6 (21:51):
And I'm still here, and.
Speaker 4 (21:53):
So if I have.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
But if I'm sorry to interrupt you, if I have
a flu and I'm staying in the room and I'm
I'm sleeping in the bed for three days because I'm
sick as a dog and I've been coughing and sneezing
into the pillow. I know housekeeping is going to come
in and they're going to change the pillow case and
put on fresh linen. But isn't that pillow still holding
the germs that I was putting in there?
Speaker 7 (22:19):
Well, it depends on what kind of hotel you're staying in.
But I'll tell you that especially since the pandemic, I mean,
the policies have changed so much and the focus around
sanitation and hygiene and cleanliness has become so robust that
now everything gets removed, really, all of that goes away.
Speaker 5 (22:37):
I feel much better, and i'd like to say, it's
no more dangerous to staying in his parents' guest room
and a mattress that they've slept on and the wife
slept for fourteen So you travel so much, what's the
biggest tip that maybe people don't know from somebody who's
been to sixty countries and hoping to get to one hundred.
Speaker 7 (22:52):
I try and go during the off season if I can, right,
because of all the various types of tourisom that you
spoke about, the one that we didn't talk about was
over tourism, and that is a serious problem in that
you have destinations where you have way too many people
coming in in a short period of time. So you
talk about Greece, and you talk about Venice, and you
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talk about Marchu Pichu, and it's getting to a point
where you have so many people coming into the destination
at the same time that we are starting to destroy
what is special about that place. So when I travel
and try I try and do off season travel. So
all my trips to Italy and Greece are in the winter.
Speaker 4 (23:28):
Right.
Speaker 7 (23:29):
I don't have a beach body, so that makes it easier.
I'm not looking to go hang out on the beach
when I'm in Greece, but you know, I'm there to
walk around and I and it's great because it helps
the economy of the local communities when things are slow
to have people coming in and I have a much
more pleasant time. I standing in Ea and Santorini and
watching that beautiful sunset off the cliff.
Speaker 6 (23:51):
There were four of us.
Speaker 7 (23:53):
It is gorgeous, gorgeous, and there were just four of
us and at sunset point. And so that's something that's unique,
and specially that's something I try and do. Yeah, And
I and when I travel, I try and use local
businesses and local restaurants, and I go and try and
I go to the local bookstores. I try and do
as much of that as I can, because travel's that's
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authentic travel. And secondly, it also helps the people who
live in those communities.
Speaker 3 (24:20):
Well, my wife and I spent a lot of time
in Maui. We used to take our children to Maui
all the time. And when that terrible fire ravaged Lahaina
and destroyed it, we talked about specifically going back to
Maui in the aftermath of that to put some money
into the economy. Yes, we gave some money to the
relief effort, but to literally keep that.
Speaker 4 (24:42):
Island's tourism alive.
Speaker 3 (24:44):
But we also were not sure if us being there
would tax the island and you know, make it more
difficult for people who live there, or if it would
be helpful. Do you know anything about whether there's generally
it's a good thing to go to a place that
has been hard hit soon after the event, or whether
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it's better to wait until they've recovered to some degree.
Speaker 7 (25:09):
My view on that is, and having worked in various
disaster zones, my view is that the initial period after
the disaster happens really should be focused on recovery, should
be focused on getting resources and help into the society,
into the communities so that they get immediate help and support.
Speaker 6 (25:25):
That's priority.
Speaker 7 (25:27):
And I agree with you that in that case, I
don't want to take a room and resources away from
somebody who needs it that point of time. But there's
a great way to help which kind of accomplishes both
both aspects of what you're trying to do. You like
the place you plan to go and visit, what I
would do is find a local place, book a trip
in advance, and pay for it so they have access
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to resources.
Speaker 4 (25:49):
Pay for it in advance. Yeah, that's really wise. That's
very smart.
Speaker 5 (25:54):
Lastly, I always wonder about going to a place and
knowing what it's going to present. Jason, when we were
traveling years ago, booked the travel and said, it's great.
This is where we stayed when we got married. My
wife and I and we checked the hotel and the
first thing I see is there three elevators. One of
them has been Crovard over, has been Crowbard open.
Speaker 4 (26:14):
And I got to my room and the only thing
missing was police tape.
Speaker 5 (26:16):
There was a wet spot on the floor that was
the size of a human body.
Speaker 4 (26:20):
How can you tell when you're going to a place how.
Speaker 5 (26:24):
They've missed, if they're misrepresenting, or because the pictures look great,
but then when you walk in, I can only imagine
the way.
Speaker 3 (26:30):
I didn't say it's a great I said my wife
and I the night after our wedding, because we had
an early flight to get out to our honeymoon. It
was one of the hotel adjacent and I said it
was perfectly fine.
Speaker 4 (26:41):
Yeah, yeah, that was thirty for the night that we
have to spend there. Since then, it looked like there's
been seventeen shooting. It was. It was not presenting, it
was not fashion forward cover I'm going for a soda.
It was that hotel.
Speaker 5 (26:52):
So how would you How would you know so you
don't end up at a place that misrepresents If.
Speaker 7 (26:58):
I move to a place, which you know, I'll always
look at reviews, right, I'll look at trip Advisor, I'll
look at hotels dot.
Speaker 6 (27:04):
Com, I'll go to some of the other sites.
Speaker 7 (27:06):
I know that in some markets, I actually do want
to stay at an unbranded hotel because those are special,
unique properties. In other cases, I want to stay at
a branded hotel. So if I want to stay at
a branded hotel, at least knowing that it's part of
a brand gives me some level of comfort. But then
it's up to me to do my do my own
due diligence, And it also comes down to what my
purpose of trip is. So Jason, like you said, if
you just wanted to crash there for the night before
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you got on a flight to go somewhere, and then
maybe how great it is is really not what you're
focused on. You're really more care about the fact that
you can park there and you have a shuttle that
you can take to the airport, and that's you know,
you're probably not going to come back there again unless
you decide you're going to treat Peter to a special
stay many years.
Speaker 4 (27:49):
That's not going to happen. So because he has you know,
he's just unreasonable. He's very hard.
Speaker 3 (27:58):
So so a guy barre an elevator all of a
sudden he can't rest because somebody crow barred an elevator.
Maybe maybe that was somebody on a life saving mission.
Speaker 4 (28:09):
And maybe that wet.
Speaker 3 (28:10):
Spawn on your rug was where you know what I
was keeping spend extra time and care making sure that
that part of the rug was extra special clean.
Speaker 4 (28:22):
Oh and I'm sorry it didn't have time to drive
before you. I had to come in.
Speaker 5 (28:25):
My guests after watching enough CSI is that the hotel
would know how to open an elevator if it's locked
the elevator doors coward because the person in there was
going to be beaten by.
Speaker 4 (28:36):
Some kind of drug gas. You have to get in
and wouldn't wait, professor, thank you, Buss.
Speaker 3 (28:43):
Is there a hotel that you currently oversee, because that's
where I'm staying.
Speaker 4 (28:47):
I'm standing at his parents.
Speaker 7 (28:48):
You know, I teach students who are going to be
overseeing amazing hotels around the worlds if you want to
ever come by.
Speaker 3 (28:53):
You know what, next time I'm in Boston. I'm very
serious about this. We have your information. Next time I'm
in Boston because I usually do a master ask for
my for my school where I'm the alump, I will
come by say hello, and I yes, I want to
meet your students, so I will.
Speaker 5 (29:09):
And I want to save money, so I'll be sleeping
your parents if you can it a good work. Thank
you for this, Thank you for coming on.
Speaker 6 (29:14):
You can stay with us. Thank you again.
Speaker 4 (29:27):
So here's why this the sleep tourism thing.
Speaker 3 (29:32):
I don't think they can account So I think I've
told you about this before because I've complained about the
various injuries I've sustained sleeping in the same room with
my wife, who I'm not saying she's wrong.
Speaker 4 (29:46):
I'm just saying it's just starting off bad.
Speaker 3 (29:49):
So there cannot be any source of light, not one
candlewat of illumination. You're developing films, so she will actually,
you know the blue painters tape. If there's like an
alarm pad or a digital clock, a digital clock gets
(30:09):
a washcloth over at the alarm pad over the led lights.
She'll put the blue painters tape. I mean when I
tell you it is pitch black. Now I know my bedroom,
but if anything is out of place in my bedroom,
I'm going down.
Speaker 4 (30:23):
Because I can't see a damn thing.
Speaker 3 (30:26):
Wow not and and it has to be silent.
Speaker 4 (30:29):
There's no such thing as white noise. You want to
know what I just wrote down.
Speaker 5 (30:33):
So you're difficult to buy for, But I try to
get stuff that's meaningful.
Speaker 4 (30:39):
So your next gift, yea what night vision?
Speaker 3 (30:44):
Please tell you that would be the best.
Speaker 4 (30:51):
How would you find them? The problem is I think
they have a little green light bed and know where
they are.
Speaker 5 (30:57):
That's that's that's the only you're getting vision goggles, my friend.
Speaker 4 (31:01):
That is if they're under two hundred bucks. Well, here's
the thing I found and then we'll bring in David Googleheim.
Speaker 3 (31:05):
I found a list I thought that was fascinating of
sometimes you know how you put on something in the
in the bedroom.
Speaker 4 (31:12):
I don't because we don't have a TV in the bedroom.
Speaker 3 (31:14):
But people put something on and then they fall asleep
to the thing, and they wake up four hours later
and still on. There is an actual list of movies
that people tend to fall asleep. Oh all right, so
one of them in every list was Forrest Gump.
Speaker 4 (31:30):
People fall asleep, Fall Asleep to Forest Gump. Any nature
documentary narrated by David Attenborough.
Speaker 3 (31:38):
Star Wars episode one, Phantom Menace, that's the Jar Jar Baks. Yeah,
the Tree of Life, you know, the Terrence Malick film, right, yeah,
before the credits have started. Uh, the original Cleopatra Lost
in Translation with Bill Murray, Fantasia, the animated film Fantasia
because it's mostly music, okay, right, Uh, Sleepless in Seattle.
Speaker 4 (32:02):
Any Hallmark Christmas film.
Speaker 3 (32:05):
But especially one called a Christmas Prince put you out,
Lord of the Rings under the Tuscan Sun e t
five hundred Days of Summer, and for some reason, the
Pride and Prejudice with Kiera Knightley.
Speaker 4 (32:17):
Those are the time way.
Speaker 5 (32:18):
I love that somebody actually people out, somebody actually figured
this out.
Speaker 4 (32:22):
They should do a box set. You know what it was.
Speaker 3 (32:24):
It was like one of those reddits or Quora. You
know what what movie puts you to sleep?
Speaker 4 (32:27):
You know? David? Now the lines of the given. Now
you know what name? David, our own little David's David Googleheim.
Welcome to ours, our little broadcasts. Very nice to see you,
thank you, thank you. Good.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
Good to be here, good to be here.
Speaker 10 (32:44):
You know, when when Peter told me about those pigs
and swimming with the pigs, I felt that there was
something something amissing lost in translation there. I'm like pof
poof on on, you know, human violence with the swimming.
Speaker 4 (32:58):
That doesn't no, no, swimming.
Speaker 10 (33:00):
That didn't make that didn't stand up to me. Also,
I must add I love the mustache.
Speaker 11 (33:06):
It makes you look a little like Henry cavill Henry
Cavill in there is that.
Speaker 4 (33:12):
No, I'm I'm he's doing a porn Yeah, I'm doing.
Speaker 3 (33:18):
I'm appearing as my Seinfeld character Buck Naked. No, I'm
doing a play in Chicago, and this is for the character.
But I did, I said to Peter last night. When
I'm clean shaven, there have been occasions where, you know,
for my own enjoyment, I've had to put on a wig,
and I looked just like my mother.
Speaker 4 (33:34):
I mean, clean shaven. I looked just like my mother when.
Speaker 3 (33:37):
I shaved this off the other day and I just
had a mustache.
Speaker 4 (33:40):
My dad had a mustache all his life.
Speaker 3 (33:43):
And I looked in the mirror and I almost started
to cry because I went, oh my god, there's my dad.
Speaker 4 (33:48):
I suddenly saw my dad's face. Look, your mom and
dad looked oddly. Oddly it's.
Speaker 5 (33:56):
When you said that I felt because I love you.
I felt before you your that. And then it hit
me that what you're actually saying is your mom and
dad minus something, something not right. They were trucked each
other because they went oddly like.
Speaker 4 (34:12):
Anything else.
Speaker 11 (34:12):
Well, David, well, you know there was one thing that
that Peter said in the front that I just had
to had to google because I had no idea what
the hell he was talking about when he he made
an Edgar Winter reference, And I'm like, who the hell
is Edgar Wintered?
Speaker 5 (34:31):
There?
Speaker 4 (34:31):
It's like the best blues guitar playing.
Speaker 5 (34:34):
And did he do Franken?
Speaker 11 (34:38):
He did Frankenstein and Freeride with even I am musical moron,
no Edgar Winter?
Speaker 10 (34:46):
Well, well what but some people might not know that
he is someone who is living with albinism.
Speaker 4 (34:53):
Yes, yes, the pale comparison. Don't you do not? You
do not forget that that face.
Speaker 3 (34:59):
He's very he's actually quite I think, very handsome, but
it's quite striking.
Speaker 1 (35:04):
Yeah, the bangs and.
Speaker 4 (35:07):
People just who he is now.
Speaker 11 (35:10):
I know now and in some circles the word albino
is considered offensive.
Speaker 4 (35:18):
Did I say, by the way, I just said, you know.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
You had gave us an absolutely zero context.
Speaker 5 (35:24):
You know, like you use zero context because in humor,
people who get it get it and the people don't.
It's not for everybody, not everything everybody acceptable term if that's.
Speaker 1 (35:34):
Offense, albinism, albinism, oh.
Speaker 3 (35:38):
To describe the condition rather than label somebody I know
you or someone living with albiologies to anybody living with
I didn't say he did.
Speaker 4 (35:50):
Clearing us only as a public service. He's just it's
I am.
Speaker 1 (35:53):
I just since we're on the topic. You know, I
found this out.
Speaker 5 (35:57):
Go was googling, and I'm like, you know, now you
know we did a whole thing on too, and the
big takeaway is albin.
Speaker 4 (36:07):
So you can go. You're gonna go.
Speaker 3 (36:08):
You're gonna go to a sleep hotel and get some sleep.
You see, everybody don't swim with the pegs.
Speaker 8 (36:16):
You feed the swim swimming, then you'll sleep. I've never
seen a pig eat a human being except in the
movie The Signs of the Land Animal, and they were bores.
Speaker 3 (36:27):
More people are killed every year by pigs than they
are by sharks. Really No, Really, look it up. You
will find that that is true, and are.
Speaker 4 (36:42):
Bad salmon? Is that true? That can't be true.
Speaker 1 (36:48):
There's another episode of Really No Really comes to a close.
Speaker 2 (36:51):
I know you're wondering, what is the longest time someone
has stayed asleep and the longest.
Speaker 1 (36:55):
Time someone is gone without sleep?
Speaker 2 (36:57):
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has slept naturally?
Speaker 1 (37:45):
And what is the longest a human has gone without sleep?
Speaker 2 (37:48):
The longest recorded and verified continuous snooze not medically induced
was that by a seven year old boy named Wyatt
from Kentucky in October of twenty seventeen. Wyatt fell asleep
and stayed that way for eleven full days. Doctors ran
several tests and could find no medical or biological reasons
for the extended sleep. When he did finally wake, he
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had measurable cognitive impairment, particularly when walking and talking. He
eventually made a full recovery after treatment with drugs typically
used in seizure management. On the other end of the spectrum,
held by Robert McDonald in nineteen eighty six, McDonald stayed
awake for a total of four hundred and fifty three
hours and forty minutes, or roughly nineteen full days.
Speaker 1 (38:29):
The Guinness Book of World Records holds that as the.
Speaker 2 (38:31):
Title, and they have officially eliminated the category because of
the extreme hazards of extended sleep deprivation. So take it
from us here at really, no, really, you need your sleep.
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Speaker 4 (38:46):
Okay, good nack,
Really now, really.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Really now, really well and welcome to Really No Really
with Jason Alexander and Peter Tilden. Remind you that our
subscribers have been known to sleep better, deeper, and longer
than subscribers to other podcasts.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
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Speaker 2 (00:22):
Most of you are probably aware that sleep deprivation can
lead to a whole host of serious maladies, and that
millions of Americans suffer from insomnia. But did you know
that the newest trend in wellness is sleep tourism?
Speaker 1 (00:36):
Really no, really this time? So what exactly is sleep tourism?
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Jason and Peter decided to wake up and find out,
so they sought out global hospitality and travel expert Kashik
Vaarrajin and what they discovered was a world filled with
AI powered beds, smart sheets, quiet floors, and lots of
fascinating hotel secrets.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
You need to know.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
So sit back, take a deep breath, and hey, stay awake,
You're about to learn some stuff.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Okay, here's Jason and Peter.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
All right, I will I'm not gonna lie to you.
Speaker 4 (01:10):
I'm already a little tired. I'm exhausted up tired. You
look tired. Do I really? I hate Yeah, you look tired.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
I mean you have the bronze around you just still
look tired. How much what do you do you put
on the you put it.
Speaker 5 (01:23):
On every morning, A little bronze now A discussed Well, yeah,
like I do this.
Speaker 4 (01:27):
I mean, you know I have my eyebrows are falling out.
I don't have these a little something.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
But and this, this isn't the natural color of my mustache.
Speaker 5 (01:35):
If I didn't put on any kind of makeup for TV. Yeah,
I look like you can white balance on my face.
It's like I'm I'm ed gart Winter's brother.
Speaker 4 (01:44):
I am so white.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
Tale that the people go and you don't sleep. I
know a lot of that is because you don't sleep. Now,
I've gotten a little worse with age, but I can
still get six hours at a shot. But that would
be like that would be like you being able to
fly somedthingly that would be a.
Speaker 5 (02:00):
Two and a half to three hours. And I don't
know if that's my rhythm and that's why I am
genetically or after doing so many years of getting up
at three in the morning, three thirty that your body reseets.
Speaker 4 (02:09):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (02:11):
So the reason we started talking about sleep is we
saw that sleep tourism is the biggest travel trend for
twenty twenty four. Really no, really, no, really, so we
had to find people are traveling to go to sleep,
to go to sleep?
Speaker 4 (02:27):
Who's heard of that? Right? So we have an expert
on to talk about that. A. What is it? B?
Is it real?
Speaker 5 (02:33):
But before we go to that trend, I just thought
I'd look up some other other trends and travel No.
Speaker 4 (02:39):
One question before to clarify our shot.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
Is it sleep tourism or is it sleep destination sleep tourism.
I know that's what's written on your page, but I'm wondering.
When I hear tourism, I think there's going to be
an itinerary. When I hear I'm going to go to sleep,
I go I'm going to go to that place and
I'm going to shut down?
Speaker 4 (02:59):
Is it really? As far as you know.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
Before we talk to our guests, is it go to
a singular place for the purpose of sleeping or is
it You're going to go to several.
Speaker 5 (03:08):
Places, yes and go to yes, yes and yes. Okay,
it's all about anyway. Everybody's tired today. So we're going
to talk about that, but different types of tourism. I
thought I would throw your way and one of them,
I know you've you've done, which is pretty amazing.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
Adventure tourism where people do adventures, and we had Mike
Resan for that. Who does the craziestre's in the country.
There's the countries where you go you cover me, I'm
going to.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
My Jewish man goes to like the bottom of the ocean,
at the top of the mountain, and the places where
people have gone unbelievable.
Speaker 5 (03:41):
Agritourism travelers experience rural life on a farm and they
pitch you pitch it yes, and the farmer goes, we
have some more, ma.
Speaker 4 (03:50):
I thought that's where you sent. You know, kids would
get in trouble a lot.
Speaker 5 (03:53):
I think they're who's there, welcome kids getting off of drugs.
Alternative tourism or justane ability tourism where you go and
see interaction with governments and people about what they're doing
to sustain climate change, et cetera, so you're experiencing it.
Culinary tourism makes sense, sure. Dental tourism, excuse me now,
dental tourism where you go to have your teeth fixed
(04:15):
and it's cheaper. What's wrong with the corner expensive here?
But people go to other countries for dental tourism is
the reason it's cheaper. A disaster tourism.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
People love going to where there was, yes, Chernobyl, like
going to Chernobyl or going to this is where the
Titanic went down or this is what. Yeah, yeah, interesting,
Actually I could understand.
Speaker 4 (04:36):
I'd be fascinated to go to Chernobyl and see.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
Because it's kind of like, in a way like going
to Pompeii, because it happens so fast that you can
absolutely get a snapshot of what this life was like,
This community was life, and then it was abandoned in
a heartbeat.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
Go to three Mile On in Pennsylvania.
Speaker 5 (04:56):
Sure, keep it, yes, ch Yeah, you know what s
jetting is set jetting, jetting to different sets. Movie move Okay,
that's exactly. Oh oh we're stuff with film. They go
work stuff with film. This is exactly when I was
in New Zealand that was very big. Go see with
a hobbit town and then the one I love the most,
And I'm laughing when I found this because you do it.
(05:18):
It's swimming with the pigs when the story a bouton.
Speaker 4 (05:23):
That's a misnomer. You finish your thoughts.
Speaker 5 (05:25):
Okay, So the Bahamas Swimming with the Pigs tour where
you get an air conditioned vehicle, a boat ride, a
beach share, and then the pig encounter. Yeah, the pig
encounter is correct. You got karaoke and then special features.
You got pool table. You can do graduations, because that's
why I want my graduation. And then you'll have around
(05:45):
thirty minutes to meet, feed, play with and swim with
the resident pigs on Rose Island in the Bahamas.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
Okay, let me tell you what you don't do. You
do not swim with the pigs. You are on a
little dinghy or a little boat. You can feed the pigs.
If you're really brave, you can reach it out and
try and pet the pig. But let me just tell
you there are more people every year killed by pigs
than sharks.
Speaker 4 (06:10):
That is an absolute. That's an absolute.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
I noticed that there's pigs swimming in these open waters.
There's no sharks, which means even the sharks go. Don't
message these guys. You do not, Now, how did you
We have a friend who has a boat and we
were invited down to stay on the boat for several
days in the Bahamas, and then there's this other island.
Speaker 4 (06:33):
It's world famous.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
He's famous there where you can go down and they
have the swim the famous swimming pigs. And you're about,
you know, twenty feet off the shore, and son of
a gun, you bring watermelon rinds and oranges and things,
and the pigs will swim out.
Speaker 4 (06:48):
They'll swim right up to the boat.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
They'll put their little hoofs up on the dinghy and
you can feed them.
Speaker 5 (06:54):
So if you're fitting them as nice, if you fell
in the water, it would look like a frenzy and
there'd be blood. It's like draws.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
But those pigs, first of all, they're feral pigs. They're
not like you know, it's like not like your farmyard pig.
They're feral pigs. And you know, they have gigantic bottom teeth.
Speaker 4 (07:11):
Some of them.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
They're not warthogs, but they have like something that looks
like a little dusk tooth from the top.
Speaker 4 (07:17):
And you know they're they're right in front of them.
Let's get to our guests.
Speaker 5 (07:21):
But you know who I want to meet the guy,
the person, the marketing genius who said we got pigs here.
Speaker 4 (07:27):
What are we doing here?
Speaker 5 (07:28):
We can promote the tour at a fool table, at
a birthday ready.
Speaker 4 (07:33):
In the water.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
And you know what, my wife when she heard we
were going to Pig Island, she was like a six
year old girl.
Speaker 4 (07:39):
She was so excited.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
I have her on video screaming like she's on a
roller coaster having such a good time feeding these pigs
and oh baby, you know the baby talk in the
home and she had the best time.
Speaker 4 (07:53):
Up early today. We're going to Pig Island, going to
pick let's say hi to our guests.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
Now I'm gonna say his name wrong, but we call
him professor v but he is professor Kaushik var jahrjen
vard ho vod horizon Vard.
Speaker 4 (08:10):
Just chick one and stick with it.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
Koshik vard Horision. He's gonna correct me the minute he
gets in here. He's the associate professor of the practice
UH and director of the Real Estate and Innovation and
Entrepreneurship Programs at Boston University School of Hospitality Administration, where
I went.
Speaker 4 (08:25):
To school, not that department.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
Holds multiple degrees in hotel and restaurant management and hotel administration,
and is UH an resident expert on tourism in general
and sleep tourism in the specific.
Speaker 5 (08:39):
Yeah, that it's that, it's the big trend. So, doctor V,
how are you, Professor V? Professor V?
Speaker 6 (08:44):
Hi, Jason, Hi, Peter. Great to join both of you here.
Speaker 4 (08:48):
How how off was I on your last name? Professor V?
Speaker 6 (08:52):
You almost got it right? Uh, it's what that gent?
Speaker 4 (08:55):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (08:55):
See but now you say, now you've pronounced v's more
like a W water Jrhargen.
Speaker 4 (09:01):
It's what I just heard.
Speaker 7 (09:02):
Yeah, And I have never been able to figure that out.
People have told me that before. I can never tell
the difference between a V and a W.
Speaker 4 (09:10):
How are you what I say?
Speaker 3 (09:11):
I actually think that's cultural and it's just I find
it very charming.
Speaker 4 (09:15):
So wait a minute, if.
Speaker 5 (09:16):
You ever so if you drive a VW car here
and travel?
Speaker 4 (09:23):
Yeah, all right, a bug.
Speaker 5 (09:24):
So, professor, we saw that sleep perth is the biggest
trend in twenty twenty four. I know we're all we
are all sleep deprived. The hotel and that industry decided
this is where we're going to make our big money.
Speaker 4 (09:38):
It's a big niche and people lead. This is that accurate.
Speaker 7 (09:42):
The hotel industry is always focused on sleep no hotel
company out there or no hotel out there wants a
guest to stay at their hotel and not have a
great night sleep. And all hotels have done now is
come up with a different and a more holistic set
of solutions to help people sleep better.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
And can you talk about what those solutions are a
little bit? I mean, can you Is there a sort
of a checklist?
Speaker 4 (10:06):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (10:07):
So, and I think it starts with let's start of
the basics and then kind of work our way up,
so the mattresses have become better and better consistently. So
if you think about you know, back in ninety nine,
Western came up with the Western Heavenly Bed and truly
was exceptional, and suddenly you had a brand name bed.
And now suddenly everybody else started coming up with their
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own brand name beds.
Speaker 5 (10:30):
I've read about that the Western Heavenly Bed. Is this
like the gold standard of beds? Did people start buying
the bed after they stayed at the Western and did
Western make money from this night?
Speaker 4 (10:40):
Oh?
Speaker 6 (10:40):
Absolutely?
Speaker 7 (10:41):
I mean a people started staying more at Western's because
they had this bed and they wanted to test it out.
And I can speak from personal experience, I mean I
was sleeping on an ikea bed that I had bought
a while ago. And when my wife became pregnant, we
were traveling and we stayed at a Western and she
loved the Western Heavenly Bed. And so when we came home,
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the Ika bed was no longer cutting it. So we
got rid of the Ika bed and we got a
Western Heavenly bed. And you know, I was seventeen years ago,
and that Western Heavenly bed now is it's you know,
it's at my mom. My parents have it and they
have it in the guest room, and they won't give
it away, you know, and it's it's still great, and
it's a great bed.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
Western doesn't make did they make beds during the hotel base?
Didn't they run out and get a cert of mattress
and just throw it on a box spring and go,
we're calling it. They gave it a name. Now it's
the Western Heavenly Bed. They didn't actually invest money in
creating a bed, did they. They didn't actually invest money
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in creating a bed, did they.
Speaker 7 (11:53):
Well, they put tons and tons of research into it. Yeah,
you're right that they didn't go into manufacturing, but they
had they brought in sleep experts. They brought in medical
experts to actually design other features. Right, we started talking
about the beds have become more fancy. Now you have
AI powered beds. You have sleep number beds that change
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how soft or how hard they are. There are beds
that move and change position when you're sleeping to help
you sleep better. So they're constantly monitoring how you sleep.
They're asleep there. And if you don't want to buy
a whole expensive bed, they have these smart sheets and
smart mattress pads that you can just slip on an
existing mattress that will that has smart functions and features
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that smart monitoring your sleeping, smart sheets and smart you know,
smart mattress.
Speaker 4 (12:41):
Pads smart you still have smart.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
I know you've just said something like, yeah, water is
for people to drink, But we are sitting there going
there are smart sheets and smart mattress pads.
Speaker 5 (12:52):
By the way, what happens if you put on a
smart mattress, a smart sheet, and a smart mattress that morning.
Speaker 4 (13:00):
It could pass an SAT score that I would never
get where the bed's going? Why is the schmuck line
on this? And here's the thing.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
If the bed is constantly adjusting I'm not gonna be honest.
Speaker 4 (13:09):
Thing, but what maybe instantly that means?
Speaker 3 (13:12):
But wait, if I push you, or I move you
up for a little bit, or I put a hand
on you when you're sleeping, or you need more pressure
here so the sheet suddenly goes grip. You're not waking
up from that. You know what, We're not breaking your
rim cycle.
Speaker 5 (13:26):
Well, if your shoulder hurts and it knows to adjust
because it can feel the pressure point, that would be one.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
It's not doctor McCoy. It's not giving you a shot.
How much is your sheet? Can I help your aching show?
Speaker 5 (13:37):
I'm assuming because we're in twenty twenty four and this
is the trend, it's a positive instead of a negative.
Speaker 4 (13:43):
Let's say that's true.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
I'm just saying, honestly, I'm I'm not joking really when
I say, if I know that that there are these
subtle accommodations that that mattresses and betting can make, and
I think that would wait, that would take me right,
have a rim cycle?
Speaker 4 (14:01):
Slept on one, professor, I have not the expert. The
expert said, not for me. He hasn't slept on. Now
I want to find out.
Speaker 5 (14:12):
I just got I got I want to find out
how smart sheets work.
Speaker 4 (14:15):
That's that's fascinating to me.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
Well, also, but you know, now you're covering yourself in
the electronics. They used to say, don't sleep within four
feet of your cell phone.
Speaker 4 (14:23):
Now people put the cell phone.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
Now you're you're covering yourself with electronics. And okay, I'm
not fit for this world. It's fine. Let me ask
you this. I know there's more things in the room
that we want to talk about. But as you're telling
me about the things in the room that make it
sleep friendly. If the central uh service that a hotel
provides is an essence, a wonderful place to rest on
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your vacation to sleep, what is the relative cost of
elevating a room from a from a standard room to
a sleep tourism quality room?
Speaker 4 (14:56):
Why would I asked? Because I my and goes.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
Why wouldn't a hotel make every room in the hotel that.
Speaker 4 (15:06):
You know what I mean? Is it cost prohibitive to
achieve it?
Speaker 6 (15:10):
No, it depends on what you're talking about.
Speaker 8 (15:12):
Now.
Speaker 7 (15:12):
If you're talking about in an AI powered bed, which can
cost several thousand dollars, you know, five six, ten thousand dollars, Yes,
that probably is not something you're going to see in
a lot of hotels, and especially not in hotels that
are anything not luxury, right, But hotels in the industry
overall takes a very holistic view of what sleep tourism is. So, yes,
you know, I got too fixated on what's happening in
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the room, but let's kind of step out of the
room and talk about other things. So there is a
combination of the spa. So it's a combination of therapies
that you can have, special treatments that you can have.
It could be a nutrition based so what you're eating
has an impact on how you sleep. Right, So there's
a whome sleep menu as far as what you should
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and you should not be having, and they promote certain
menus if you want to sleep better. So it's a
combination of all of these features. There are hotels even
at the budget level that offer quiet rooms and quiet floors.
They are making sure that you have the basics that
you need in order to have a great night sleep.
Speaker 6 (16:14):
So that's always available.
Speaker 5 (16:15):
How did they do a quiet floor Because Jason and
I just went to Florida to do a show and
the guy next door, well.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
They were having some sort of you know, there was
an event, there was an occasion either for friends or
family and wedding a batchep.
Speaker 5 (16:29):
And so every night was noise like right there. How
do you ensure you have to sign an oath when
you check in that you will not take noise from
ten to two? And how do they enforce that they
have a noise police.
Speaker 7 (16:38):
So the hotel that I used to work on, we
would do a couple of things. One was that we,
you know, are the designated quiet floor. Was making sure
that the floor is away from any other sources of
noise in public areas in the hotel. Also very careful
with how the you know, and training the employees on
that floor so that when they're walking down corridors, they're
not on their phones, they're not talking to each other.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
Can you do a thing this because this is what
always gets me. It's the guy who has the five
am flight. So he's leaving the hotel at three point
thirty in the morning. He's got his bag. I understand
this problem. He's got his bag, he flings open the door,
zings his bag through the door, and the door slams.
Speaker 4 (17:21):
Like Vesuvius is erupting, and it's just you're never going
to train that guy. You can't write up until that moment,
he was quiet. That's you. That's me. We try to
be be. That is not me.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
I'm actually that's one of my most conscientious things.
Speaker 4 (17:36):
I actually you're like a church.
Speaker 3 (17:39):
I guess you could make the claim that that hotels
that have risen to the level being able to say
we accommodate sleep tourism is a therapeutic experience. To your knowledge,
does any health insurance sort of cover that as a
therapeutic treatment by staying in a specifically sleep tourism hotel.
Speaker 7 (18:03):
Not that I'm aware of. You have a niche because
if you look at the hospitality industry as a pyramid,
there are three aspects to that pyramid. One is just
the product. It's a room that you're staying in. Right,
And if you look back at your favorite trip, Jason
or Peter, I don't think your favorite trip memories involved
talking about the fact that, oh, do you know that
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room was so cool because it was four hundred and
twenty five square feet in size, you know, and I
slept on a mattress that was eight inches in depth.
You're not going to focus on that, right, But the
Product's important if you had a really crappy room, and
if you had a really crappy mattress, that's something that
you will remember. But the product is just the first
part of it. Then the next part comes the hospitality.
Speaker 6 (18:43):
Right.
Speaker 7 (18:44):
I'm sure you've stayed at hotels that we're in ideal
or we're in the best, most upscale hotels that you've
stayed in. But this one single human interaction with either
somebody at the front desk or somebody at the restaurant,
somebody in the lobby just completely mediogo. Why that was
an exceptional experience, right, That was an expectional interaction, and
that was amazing hospitality. And to top it off is
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something we call experiences, right, And as a school we
focus on experience innovation because experiences in the end kind
of top everything off. So it's a combination of product,
hospitality and experiences.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
And is experience the way you're talking about it, is
that something like having a meal in a room that
has an extraordinary view? Is that does that fall under
experience or can you specify what you mean by experiences?
Speaker 7 (19:33):
It could be that, right, It could be dining in
a beautiful you know, staying in a beautiful room with
a view of their cropplers, or you know you're staying.
Speaker 6 (19:40):
In you know you have this amazing view of the ocean.
It could be.
Speaker 4 (19:46):
You.
Speaker 7 (19:46):
You know, you stepped out of the room and you
came back. Housekeepings come in and they've done their usual thing.
But then there's a note saying, mister Alexander, I noticed
that your cologne was almost running out, so we went
and got to you a new bottle. I hope you
enjoy it. Right, It could be just it's it's not
that expensive. It doesn't have to be. It could be
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something really small, but as long as it's unique and
special and especially thought through, and it is somebody took
that time to think about what you might need and
took care of that. But that's an experience.
Speaker 4 (20:18):
Here. See I fire differently than.
Speaker 3 (20:21):
I walked in. There was a new bottle of Mike coloone.
First of all, I don't have a coloon, so all
of a sudden, I go, who was in here with cologne?
But if they did that, I go, when are you
going through my stuff? You notice my cologne was almost done?
Don't touch my stuff.
Speaker 4 (20:34):
Get out of the road. You know what my best
experiences get in get out. You know what I would say.
Speaker 5 (20:39):
I have a friend who's in a hotel business, and
you know the storm I'm going to tell who said,
and it's a high end kind of a high end
hotel business.
Speaker 4 (20:44):
Who said, only we rent is a box. It's just
a box.
Speaker 5 (20:48):
So when the family goes out, they have kids, when
they come back, I have a picture of milk and
four huge chocolate chip cookies in the room for the kids.
Speaker 4 (20:56):
Cost me next to nothing.
Speaker 5 (20:57):
And the next time that family travel, the kids go,
I want to go to that hotel sure with the cookies.
Speaker 4 (21:02):
Professor.
Speaker 3 (21:03):
I got to ask it this Girt, because I have
a feeling you're going to know. I don't know if
you'll tell, but you'll definitely know. I walk into a
hotel room, what's not been cleaned? What shouldn't I touch
the bed spread? You know, the outermost cover. I'm assuming
that's not dry clean afterevergues. I mean there must be
things that you know you just can't do on a
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day to day basis.
Speaker 4 (21:26):
So when the average person walks into.
Speaker 9 (21:28):
A good hotel room, a good one, is there still
things that you shouldn't assume are pristine, that you know
you might want to be wary of No.
Speaker 7 (21:40):
Really, if you're talking about a good hotel room with
a brand, I honestly, I mean I used to travel
four to five days a week, and I did that
for twenty years. Yeah, I've never walked into a hotel
and worried about cleaning spaces.
Speaker 6 (21:51):
And I'm still here, and.
Speaker 4 (21:53):
So if I have.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
But if I'm sorry to interrupt you, if I have
a flu and I'm staying in the room and I'm
I'm sleeping in the bed for three days because I'm
sick as a dog and I've been coughing and sneezing
into the pillow. I know housekeeping is going to come
in and they're going to change the pillow case and
put on fresh linen. But isn't that pillow still holding
the germs that I was putting in there?
Speaker 7 (22:19):
Well, it depends on what kind of hotel you're staying in.
But I'll tell you that especially since the pandemic, I mean,
the policies have changed so much and the focus around
sanitation and hygiene and cleanliness has become so robust that
now everything gets removed, really, all of that goes away.
Speaker 5 (22:37):
I feel much better, and i'd like to say, it's
no more dangerous to staying in his parents' guest room
and a mattress that they've slept on and the wife
slept for fourteen So you travel so much, what's the
biggest tip that maybe people don't know from somebody who's
been to sixty countries and hoping to get to one hundred.
Speaker 7 (22:52):
I try and go during the off season if I can, right,
because of all the various types of tourisom that you
spoke about, the one that we didn't talk about was
over tourism, and that is a serious problem in that
you have destinations where you have way too many people
coming in in a short period of time. So you
talk about Greece, and you talk about Venice, and you
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talk about Marchu Pichu, and it's getting to a point
where you have so many people coming into the destination
at the same time that we are starting to destroy
what is special about that place. So when I travel
and try I try and do off season travel. So
all my trips to Italy and Greece are in the winter.
Speaker 4 (23:28):
Right.
Speaker 7 (23:29):
I don't have a beach body, so that makes it easier.
I'm not looking to go hang out on the beach
when I'm in Greece, but you know, I'm there to
walk around and I and it's great because it helps
the economy of the local communities when things are slow
to have people coming in and I have a much
more pleasant time. I standing in Ea and Santorini and
watching that beautiful sunset off the cliff.
Speaker 6 (23:51):
There were four of us.
Speaker 7 (23:53):
It is gorgeous, gorgeous, and there were just four of
us and at sunset point. And so that's something that's unique,
and specially that's something I try and do. Yeah, And
I and when I travel, I try and use local
businesses and local restaurants, and I go and try and
I go to the local bookstores. I try and do
as much of that as I can, because travel's that's
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authentic travel. And secondly, it also helps the people who
live in those communities.
Speaker 3 (24:20):
Well, my wife and I spent a lot of time
in Maui. We used to take our children to Maui
all the time. And when that terrible fire ravaged Lahaina
and destroyed it, we talked about specifically going back to
Maui in the aftermath of that to put some money
into the economy. Yes, we gave some money to the
relief effort, but to literally keep that.
Speaker 4 (24:42):
Island's tourism alive.
Speaker 3 (24:44):
But we also were not sure if us being there
would tax the island and you know, make it more
difficult for people who live there, or if it would
be helpful. Do you know anything about whether there's generally
it's a good thing to go to a place that
has been hard hit soon after the event, or whether
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it's better to wait until they've recovered to some degree.
Speaker 7 (25:09):
My view on that is, and having worked in various
disaster zones, my view is that the initial period after
the disaster happens really should be focused on recovery, should
be focused on getting resources and help into the society,
into the communities so that they get immediate help and support.
Speaker 6 (25:25):
That's priority.
Speaker 7 (25:27):
And I agree with you that in that case, I
don't want to take a room and resources away from
somebody who needs it that point of time. But there's
a great way to help which kind of accomplishes both
both aspects of what you're trying to do. You like
the place you plan to go and visit, what I
would do is find a local place, book a trip
in advance, and pay for it so they have access
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to resources.
Speaker 4 (25:49):
Pay for it in advance. Yeah, that's really wise. That's
very smart.
Speaker 5 (25:54):
Lastly, I always wonder about going to a place and
knowing what it's going to present. Jason, when we were
traveling years ago, booked the travel and said, it's great.
This is where we stayed when we got married. My
wife and I and we checked the hotel and the
first thing I see is there three elevators. One of
them has been Crovard over, has been Crowbard open.
Speaker 4 (26:14):
And I got to my room and the only thing
missing was police tape.
Speaker 5 (26:16):
There was a wet spot on the floor that was
the size of a human body.
Speaker 4 (26:20):
How can you tell when you're going to a place how.
Speaker 5 (26:24):
They've missed, if they're misrepresenting, or because the pictures look great,
but then when you walk in, I can only imagine
the way.
Speaker 3 (26:30):
I didn't say it's a great I said my wife
and I the night after our wedding, because we had
an early flight to get out to our honeymoon. It
was one of the hotel adjacent and I said it
was perfectly fine.
Speaker 4 (26:41):
Yeah, yeah, that was thirty for the night that we
have to spend there. Since then, it looked like there's
been seventeen shooting. It was. It was not presenting, it
was not fashion forward cover I'm going for a soda.
It was that hotel.
Speaker 5 (26:52):
So how would you How would you know so you
don't end up at a place that misrepresents If.
Speaker 7 (26:58):
I move to a place, which you know, I'll always
look at reviews, right, I'll look at trip Advisor, I'll
look at hotels dot.
Speaker 6 (27:04):
Com, I'll go to some of the other sites.
Speaker 7 (27:06):
I know that in some markets, I actually do want
to stay at an unbranded hotel because those are special,
unique properties. In other cases, I want to stay at
a branded hotel. So if I want to stay at
a branded hotel, at least knowing that it's part of
a brand gives me some level of comfort. But then
it's up to me to do my do my own
due diligence, And it also comes down to what my
purpose of trip is. So Jason, like you said, if
you just wanted to crash there for the night before
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you got on a flight to go somewhere, and then
maybe how great it is is really not what you're
focused on. You're really more care about the fact that
you can park there and you have a shuttle that
you can take to the airport, and that's you know,
you're probably not going to come back there again unless
you decide you're going to treat Peter to a special
stay many years.
Speaker 4 (27:49):
That's not going to happen. So because he has you know,
he's just unreasonable. He's very hard.
Speaker 3 (27:58):
So so a guy barre an elevator all of a
sudden he can't rest because somebody crow barred an elevator.
Maybe maybe that was somebody on a life saving mission.
Speaker 4 (28:09):
And maybe that wet.
Speaker 3 (28:10):
Spawn on your rug was where you know what I
was keeping spend extra time and care making sure that
that part of the rug was extra special clean.
Speaker 4 (28:22):
Oh and I'm sorry it didn't have time to drive
before you. I had to come in.
Speaker 5 (28:25):
My guests after watching enough CSI is that the hotel
would know how to open an elevator if it's locked
the elevator doors coward because the person in there was
going to be beaten by.
Speaker 4 (28:36):
Some kind of drug gas. You have to get in
and wouldn't wait, professor, thank you, Buss.
Speaker 3 (28:43):
Is there a hotel that you currently oversee, because that's
where I'm staying.
Speaker 4 (28:47):
I'm standing at his parents.
Speaker 7 (28:48):
You know, I teach students who are going to be
overseeing amazing hotels around the worlds if you want to
ever come by.
Speaker 3 (28:53):
You know what, next time I'm in Boston. I'm very
serious about this. We have your information. Next time I'm
in Boston because I usually do a master ask for
my for my school where I'm the alump, I will
come by say hello, and I yes, I want to
meet your students, so I will.
Speaker 5 (29:09):
And I want to save money, so I'll be sleeping
your parents if you can it a good work. Thank
you for this, Thank you for coming on.
Speaker 6 (29:14):
You can stay with us. Thank you again.
Speaker 4 (29:27):
So here's why this the sleep tourism thing.
Speaker 3 (29:32):
I don't think they can account So I think I've
told you about this before because I've complained about the
various injuries I've sustained sleeping in the same room with
my wife, who I'm not saying she's wrong.
Speaker 4 (29:46):
I'm just saying it's just starting off bad.
Speaker 3 (29:49):
So there cannot be any source of light, not one
candlewat of illumination. You're developing films, so she will actually,
you know the blue painters tape. If there's like an
alarm pad or a digital clock, a digital clock gets
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a washcloth over at the alarm pad over the led lights.
She'll put the blue painters tape. I mean when I
tell you it is pitch black. Now I know my bedroom,
but if anything is out of place in my bedroom,
I'm going down.
Speaker 4 (30:23):
Because I can't see a damn thing.
Speaker 3 (30:26):
Wow not and and it has to be silent.
Speaker 4 (30:29):
There's no such thing as white noise. You want to
know what I just wrote down.
Speaker 5 (30:33):
So you're difficult to buy for, But I try to
get stuff that's meaningful.
Speaker 4 (30:39):
So your next gift, yea what night vision?
Speaker 3 (30:44):
Please tell you that would be the best.
Speaker 4 (30:51):
How would you find them? The problem is I think
they have a little green light bed and know where
they are.
Speaker 5 (30:57):
That's that's that's the only you're getting vision goggles, my friend.
Speaker 4 (31:01):
That is if they're under two hundred bucks. Well, here's
the thing I found and then we'll bring in David Googleheim.
Speaker 3 (31:05):
I found a list I thought that was fascinating of
sometimes you know how you put on something in the
in the bedroom.
Speaker 4 (31:12):
I don't because we don't have a TV in the bedroom.
Speaker 3 (31:14):
But people put something on and then they fall asleep
to the thing, and they wake up four hours later
and still on. There is an actual list of movies
that people tend to fall asleep. Oh all right, so
one of them in every list was Forrest Gump.
Speaker 4 (31:30):
People fall asleep, Fall Asleep to Forest Gump. Any nature
documentary narrated by David Attenborough.
Speaker 3 (31:38):
Star Wars episode one, Phantom Menace, that's the Jar Jar Baks. Yeah,
the Tree of Life, you know, the Terrence Malick film, right, yeah,
before the credits have started. Uh, the original Cleopatra Lost
in Translation with Bill Murray, Fantasia, the animated film Fantasia
because it's mostly music, okay, right, Uh, Sleepless in Seattle.
Speaker 4 (32:02):
Any Hallmark Christmas film.
Speaker 3 (32:05):
But especially one called a Christmas Prince put you out,
Lord of the Rings under the Tuscan Sun e t
five hundred Days of Summer, and for some reason, the
Pride and Prejudice with Kiera Knightley.
Speaker 4 (32:17):
Those are the time way.
Speaker 5 (32:18):
I love that somebody actually people out, somebody actually figured
this out.
Speaker 4 (32:22):
They should do a box set. You know what it was.
Speaker 3 (32:24):
It was like one of those reddits or Quora. You
know what what movie puts you to sleep?
Speaker 4 (32:27):
You know? David? Now the lines of the given. Now
you know what name? David, our own little David's David Googleheim.
Welcome to ours, our little broadcasts. Very nice to see you,
thank you, thank you. Good.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
Good to be here, good to be here.
Speaker 10 (32:44):
You know, when when Peter told me about those pigs
and swimming with the pigs, I felt that there was
something something amissing lost in translation there. I'm like pof
poof on on, you know, human violence with the swimming.
Speaker 4 (32:58):
That doesn't no, no, swimming.
Speaker 10 (33:00):
That didn't make that didn't stand up to me. Also,
I must add I love the mustache.
Speaker 11 (33:06):
It makes you look a little like Henry cavill Henry
Cavill in there is that.
Speaker 4 (33:12):
No, I'm I'm he's doing a porn Yeah, I'm doing.
Speaker 3 (33:18):
I'm appearing as my Seinfeld character Buck Naked. No, I'm
doing a play in Chicago, and this is for the character.
But I did, I said to Peter last night. When
I'm clean shaven, there have been occasions where, you know,
for my own enjoyment, I've had to put on a wig,
and I looked just like my mother.
Speaker 4 (33:34):
I mean, clean shaven. I looked just like my mother when.
Speaker 3 (33:37):
I shaved this off the other day and I just
had a mustache.
Speaker 4 (33:40):
My dad had a mustache all his life.
Speaker 3 (33:43):
And I looked in the mirror and I almost started
to cry because I went, oh my god, there's my dad.
Speaker 4 (33:48):
I suddenly saw my dad's face. Look, your mom and
dad looked oddly. Oddly it's.
Speaker 5 (33:56):
When you said that I felt because I love you.
I felt before you your that. And then it hit
me that what you're actually saying is your mom and
dad minus something, something not right. They were trucked each
other because they went oddly like.
Speaker 4 (34:12):
Anything else.
Speaker 11 (34:12):
Well, David, well, you know there was one thing that
that Peter said in the front that I just had
to had to google because I had no idea what
the hell he was talking about when he he made
an Edgar Winter reference, And I'm like, who the hell
is Edgar Wintered?
Speaker 5 (34:31):
There?
Speaker 4 (34:31):
It's like the best blues guitar playing.
Speaker 5 (34:34):
And did he do Franken?
Speaker 11 (34:38):
He did Frankenstein and Freeride with even I am musical moron,
no Edgar Winter?
Speaker 10 (34:46):
Well, well what but some people might not know that
he is someone who is living with albinism.
Speaker 4 (34:53):
Yes, yes, the pale comparison. Don't you do not? You
do not forget that that face.
Speaker 3 (34:59):
He's very he's actually quite I think, very handsome, but
it's quite striking.
Speaker 1 (35:04):
Yeah, the bangs and.
Speaker 4 (35:07):
People just who he is now.
Speaker 11 (35:10):
I know now and in some circles the word albino
is considered offensive.
Speaker 4 (35:18):
Did I say, by the way, I just said, you know.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
You had gave us an absolutely zero context.
Speaker 5 (35:24):
You know, like you use zero context because in humor,
people who get it get it and the people don't.
It's not for everybody, not everything everybody acceptable term if that's.
Speaker 1 (35:34):
Offense, albinism, albinism, oh.
Speaker 3 (35:38):
To describe the condition rather than label somebody I know
you or someone living with albiologies to anybody living with
I didn't say he did.
Speaker 4 (35:50):
Clearing us only as a public service. He's just it's
I am.
Speaker 1 (35:53):
I just since we're on the topic. You know, I
found this out.
Speaker 5 (35:57):
Go was googling, and I'm like, you know, now you
know we did a whole thing on too, and the
big takeaway is albin.
Speaker 4 (36:07):
So you can go. You're gonna go.
Speaker 3 (36:08):
You're gonna go to a sleep hotel and get some sleep.
You see, everybody don't swim with the pegs.
Speaker 8 (36:16):
You feed the swim swimming, then you'll sleep. I've never
seen a pig eat a human being except in the
movie The Signs of the Land Animal, and they were bores.
Speaker 3 (36:27):
More people are killed every year by pigs than they
are by sharks. Really No, Really, look it up. You
will find that that is true, and are.
Speaker 4 (36:42):
Bad salmon? Is that true? That can't be true.
Speaker 1 (36:48):
There's another episode of Really No Really comes to a close.
Speaker 2 (36:51):
I know you're wondering, what is the longest time someone
has stayed asleep and the longest.
Speaker 1 (36:55):
Time someone is gone without sleep?
Speaker 2 (36:57):
Well those answers in a wink, but first let's think
our katshik Varadarajan. You can find Kashik on LinkedIn, our
little show, hangs out on Instagram, TikTok, YouTube, and threads
at really No Really podcast, And of course you can
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Speaker 1 (37:12):
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has slept naturally?
Speaker 1 (37:45):
And what is the longest a human has gone without sleep?
Speaker 2 (37:48):
The longest recorded and verified continuous snooze not medically induced
was that by a seven year old boy named Wyatt
from Kentucky in October of twenty seventeen. Wyatt fell asleep
and stayed that way for eleven full days. Doctors ran
several tests and could find no medical or biological reasons
for the extended sleep. When he did finally wake, he
(38:08):
had measurable cognitive impairment, particularly when walking and talking. He
eventually made a full recovery after treatment with drugs typically
used in seizure management. On the other end of the spectrum,
held by Robert McDonald in nineteen eighty six, McDonald stayed
awake for a total of four hundred and fifty three
hours and forty minutes, or roughly nineteen full days.
Speaker 1 (38:29):
The Guinness Book of World Records holds that as the.
Speaker 2 (38:31):
Title, and they have officially eliminated the category because of
the extreme hazards of extended sleep deprivation. So take it
from us here at really, no, really, you need your sleep.
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