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October 18, 2021 48 mins

Gizelle and Robyn talk about Dave Chapelle, the NBA’s health benefits scam, Kyrie Irving, Kim Kardashian on SNL and the ‘LulaRich’ documentary.

 The ladies also answer some questions from Reasonably Shady listeners! 

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to Reasonably Shady, a production of the Black Effect
Podcast Network and I Heart Radio. Welcome to another episode
of Reasonably Shady. I am Gesell Bryant, And what's up?
What's up? I'm Robin Dixon. Are you sure? Dixon? Disong

(00:27):
dionh gosh, it's like peniss Yes, Okay, this is gonna
be a crazy episode. We have already started, all right,
so listen. What's your Reasonably Shady moment of the week.
M Okay, So I don't you know, I didn't really

(00:47):
have one for the week, but I just was reminiscing
with you about an experience that I had a little
over a year ago during a pandemic. It was like August, right,
so August it's summertimes. Yes, it's hot. You know in
Maryland we got something called mosquitoes everywhere. And I attended

(01:09):
a family dinner that wants cousin hosted in her backyard, okay,
and had you know, we had the little candles for
the bugs and all that you know, torches, yeah, the
torches and spray and you put the spray all on
your skin and your body, and you know we're out
there eating. Everything is good. Had a good catered meal.
Its great. And I got home and I took my

(01:32):
clothes off to get in the shower. Okay, and I
looked in the mirror on my backside and I had
like twenty big as red mosquito bites on my ass. Okay, okay,
So at the party, you didn't feel like you were
getting bit no what I mean? I just felt like, well, okay,
so clearly I had clothes on, right, you know, so

(01:54):
I had on like I think I probably on like
some leggings. It wasn't. I wasn't um. I don't think
I had like a dress on, head leggings on. And
the mosquitoes clearly like we're up under the chair biting
through my leggings. That's disgusting. I've never experienced that before,
Like I mean, it was so crazy, but literally twenty
big s red mosquito bites. So I just was from

(02:16):
reminiscing about that. And okay, as Robin was reminiscing, she
was like, I took a picture of and I want
to show you the picture. Okay, So I'm just gonna
describe the picture. There is a big very white looking
that's a very bad, very pale yes not white pale,
but and there's like twenty red spots all over this
pale ass. Okay, it looks crazy. It was horrible. And

(02:39):
the crazy thing about mosquito bites is like they don't
just fade like the I literally had those marks on
my butt for like six months. No, yes, six months, Yes,
they might actually still be here. You want to say, no,
I don't, Okay too much for the podcast. Okay, that's so.
The mosquitoes were shady. The mosquitoes were shady. Just the

(03:00):
Maryland heat, humidity, blue all summer, that horribly shade. All right,
So mine was actually last week or recently. I took
my daughters to to Tallyhassee, Florida, DA because Grace has
fam you on her list of college you know so.
And by the way, this is amazing school that we
went to. And the band, yes, the band, the band.

(03:24):
The band is the school, like the whole school is
in the band. Yeah, don't get mad at me, I don't.
I don't know what. The team was good too. The
one team was good too, but the band was like
blow blew me away. And I went to Hampton. So
a Hampton's band is called the Force. The Force is
no longer the Force. After I saw bas band, they
need to change their name. Yes to the Force, maybe

(03:46):
the Force. Maybe we'll be with you anyway. So okay,
I made a reservation. You know, Talahassee doesn't have many
hotels to choose from, and clearly, you know, we're not
gonna get a RIDS or we're not gonna get like
the four Seasons. We're not doing that. But like they're
they're nice hotel. I'm not going to say the name,
but I m booked a suite. Okay, I have me

(04:07):
for three kids, four of us. I booked a sweet
So when I get there, they're like, oh no, you
you have a room and it's not available right now.
They said, you have a room with two beds and
it's not available right now, so we're gonna give you
a room with one bed. So being three kids in
the room with one bed, that doesn't lost your mind.

(04:27):
That's what I took the room. Oh no, I took
the room because we had to like change our clothes
really quickly and then get on the yard for the tour.
So I did come back and change my room. I
did come back and change the room. But as far
as the hotel is concerned, y'all a little shady? Oh
my god, because we went from my suite to a

(04:47):
double to a single. It's bad. So anyway, we we
were not there for more than twenty four hours, and
sometimes you just gotta get in where you feel. So
how many, how ultimately how many bids I had to?
Did you end up with two beds? So we slept
two in a bed? Oh my gosh, I know. I mean,
I'm just more concerned. So one bathroom, one bath four female. Yes.

(05:09):
And one of my kids, who remain nameless, Angel asked
me if she was like mine, can I just take
a shower when I get home? I was like, yeah,
let's go. We got an early flight to kids. Oh
my gosh. I just thought of something. Do all of
you come on your cycle at the same time? The girls?
The girls? Do you all three of them? Yes? Oh

(05:30):
my god? What is it like in your house? It's
good because they're all like at the same time, have
an attitude or like they'll get quiet, right, so it's fine.
I like, so it's like okay, so, but like it's
better to knock them all out in one week than
they have like one with an attitude one week with
the next you know, so it's just like all together
and then they're all like sad and depressed together and

(05:52):
then like after that we're done. Oh my gosh, on
to the next month, so we do it all over again.
I couldn't you know how I am with my period.
By the way, no one is as worse than Robin Dicks,
none of my children. So it's fine and our world
is ending when I'm on my periods. Yes, they're they're
actually not bad, and I know how they're going to act,

(06:14):
and I like over conversate to make sure that they're good.
And then there's times when like they're probably acting weird
and you're like, oh yes, and then I remembering a
period or I haven't fed them in three days, one
of the two. Alright, So we have some reviews, yes, yes, yes,
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(06:35):
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(06:55):
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But I love getting to know each of you more
in your chemistry is everything. Thank you, Thank you for

(07:17):
starting this podcast. We needed this so yes, that is
that's that was the goal. We want you all to
learn more about us because you know, we don't really
get to share the things that we want to share
on the show. We're just talking about the things we
want to talk about. And then, um, so before we
go into the rest of the show, I want to
we we had a very important episode UM last week

(07:38):
air which was about Mine your Mentals, right, and you
guys really enjoyed that episode UM and gave us a
lot of feedback, which we really appreciate. Yes, yes, and
so many people enjoyed it. I want to read an
email that we received today min Your Mentals episode twenty.
I don't want to. I mean, I don't want to
say anyone's name. M J. You know who you are.

(08:00):
I just made my appointment thanks to your podcast. I
did my research and found a therapist, but I couldn't
reach out. I'm so used to swallowing my problems and
moving on. I don't have that listening ear in my
life because I'm usually that person for others I can
relate to that the therapist looks like me and seems
to be my age. I'm guessing. I know that's a
shallow way to pick a therapist, but I'm just hoping

(08:20):
we can connect and I'll feel comfortable. Thank you. Reasonably
Shady podcast is more of a blessing than you know.
And yes, that means that's so. That means so much
to us and I and we got multiple messages of
people saying thank you for that episode that they, you know,
are seeking someone to to talk to. So um, I
love that. Yeah, I love that. Thanks guys. Okay, so listen,

(08:43):
we we have we put out there to you all
something very important to the Reasonably Shady family. Carly now
she has been given the title director of Operations, and
we asked because it kind of felt like she should
have a different title. I don't know, and you got
We asked you guys what we thought you all thought

(09:05):
her title should be, and y'all came up with some nonsense. Okay,
I mean to say it. Okay, somebody said the Master
of Messiness or some nonsense. The pod Mother, which I
think is so cute. The pod Mother, the pod Mother
like the godmother. I think that's so cute. But we
still need something that's like, you know, it lets outsiders

(09:25):
know that she is a professional. Yes, she We can't
even call her an intern because we pay her um
and she's like a professional. She does a great job.
She keeps us in line. So because you all title
for her suck. We're continuing with the Director of Operations
until we get something better. I'm gonna come up with something.

(09:48):
Robn's gonna come up with something. Robbin is great at
giving names and picking names. So and so Robin comes
up with something. Carle will continue to be our d
oh do doo doo. Okay, Now, so we got some
hot topics, guys. There's a whole lot is going on
out there in the stweets. Okay, and we weren't going
to talk about this. Okay, it's a little touchy, okay,

(10:10):
but it's near and dear to my heart. So there's
a comedian out there by the name of Dave Chappelle,
and I have day one been a huge Dave Chappelle
fan because he makes you laughing and he makes you
think super talented, super talented he is. He makes you think.
There's a lot of comedians out there they're just saying

(10:30):
silly ship and they don't make you think. Dave makes
you think. Okay. So, I was, of course watching his
latest Netflix stand up called The Closer, and he stated
in his stand up that he has met a lot
of jokes about the transgender community, that we're not good

(10:51):
in the past because he didn't understand transgender And I
get that, like, you know, this is something that we
all are learning more and more about, definitely within the
past ten years. Yes, So, and he apologized for it.
And then he even talked about a transgender comedian that
he became very close with who um had to deal

(11:14):
with a lot of bullying on social media and subsequently
ended up killing themselves. So that when when he started
talking about that, that for me in the in the um,
when I was watching, I shifted. I did a shift
and it made me like cry. It was like a
heartfelt moment. So I went from laughing to crying, and
I understood that that Dave was really kind of given

(11:35):
love to the community. So then I heard on his
back lash and I'm like, so, I'm sitting here, so
I read headlines. I don't really like read the stories, right,
and so the headlines that I've seen were like canceled
Dave Chappelle. So so to hear what you're saying, I'm like,
how do we get there? So so again, that's why
that's where I am. It was like taking aback, like

(11:56):
we're canceling him. I thought he apologized, Yes he did.
He did apologize to the transgender commedity and then tell
more jokes about them. But like, let's be clear, he's
a communier comedian, right, so that is what he does.
But you know, all I want to say is I
truly enjoyed it because he I think a comedian should

(12:18):
do what Dave does. He makes you laugh and he
makes you makes you think. So you didn't think the
jokes that he told were controversy, Well, I guess they
were controversial, but nothing like so offensive that he needs
to be canceled. Okay, no, but again I'm not transgender,
so I don't know, but I'm gonna say that I

(12:39):
was happy that he admitted that in the past he's
done some off color um jokes about the community because
he didn't understand it. So you know, for him to
shed light on the fact that he's trying to learn. Look,
this man said he let the one that he became
friends with. The transgender he became friends with opened for
him and he was on the road somewhere. I think

(13:02):
if he had problems with the change in the community,
he wouldn't do that. That's just my thought. And I
will continue to be a Dave Chappelle supporter and fan
because this man is brilliant. I mean, he's absolutely brilliant.
And I really feel like there's been it's so hard.
There's like such a fine line between, especially for comedians,
between comedy and between being controversial. And you know, in

(13:25):
the past, comedians have always been controversial. Like we we
kind of I feel like we would look to them
to make jokes about the things that maybe we're um
stressful or issues or like to the kind of just
make bring a little lightheartedness to whatever these issues are
that are going on in the world. And it, to
be honest with you, Robin, it's to a point where

(13:47):
I think everybody is so supersensitive. I get it. Um.
Social media is an animal on its own right to
the point where so let's so. The other day, Beyonce
posted some pictures she looked amazing. I think Jay opened
up something or no, it was like a movie premiere
for Jay. She was there amazing And as soon as

(14:10):
I saw a picture, I said to myself, oh my gosh,
she's such a baby doll. Right. So I was going
to put in the comments a beautiful baby doll, right,
And I stopped myself from doing that. You wonder why,
Because I felt like people would take the word baby
doll wrong. I felt like they'd be like, she's not
a baby doll, she's a queen or on her a
little girl? Why? Like, and I shouldn't too much. I

(14:30):
shouldn't even have to think that way. It's too much.
And you know what, it's so funny. I hate that.
Like there's times when you know, I see a post
and I want to comment on it, and like you,
I stopped myself because I got that little blue check
next to my name, and I don't want people coming
at me first, like, like, can we just express ourselves
and just say what we want to say? Can I

(14:51):
say behind the baby doll and not be controversial? I
worry about having people attack everything you say. Yeah, it's
it's so. I don't know how do we get here.
I don't know how did we get here where everything
is just so people are so sensitive to everything. Everything
is so controversial. I mean, like I said, comedians like
there they their whole existence and being was to talk

(15:11):
about controversial topics and and make you laugh. And so
why is it now it's just every little word that
people say is being picked apart with a fine tooth crime.
It's really it's sad because it's like, you know, we
want everyone to be treated fairly and equally, we want
equal rights for everyone, but at the expense of like
censoring everything that everyone says. It's so hard. It's hard.

(15:36):
It's hard onto other subjects. I know that the NBA
player are defrauding they have a defrauding benefit plan, and
I don't know much about this, so I'm but but
from what I'm saying, Robin is hot about this. She
got a whole lot to say, y'all, whole lot. Okay,

(15:57):
so news broke. Actually, we were filming the reunion, by
the way. Okay, let's stop right there, pol Guys, we
filmed the reunion. We can't say much about it, but
Nicki Minaj was there, azing and it was amazing, almazing, Okay,
like so amazing. Yeah, okay. So we're filming the reunion
and you know, I signed up for alerts to whatever, ESPN, CNN,

(16:20):
blah blah, and I look at my phone and I
keep I see all these alerts that says eighteen NBA
players were arrested for defrauding the organization's health insurance program. Okay, okay,
and right away I knew what they were talking about.
So the NBA has this. First of all, the NBA.

(16:40):
One of the great things about playing the NBA is
those benefits. Oh where they have good benefits. What what
the benefits? The retirement plan, the insurance all that, okay,
the pension all it's like amazing. So this wan still
is on the pension plan? Is that plan? Yeah? So
so one, you know, he'll get his pension when he
turned a certain age or whatever. But with what they

(17:01):
have is um supplemental health insurance plan for the players,
for the retired players, okay, and it starts a crewing
money when you play. The longer you play, the more
you know, it's put into it. So this program, it's
kind of like, um we call like an hr A
a health reimbursement plan or something that that people get
through their job. So this plan is literally designed for say,

(17:27):
you know, retired players if they either don't have health insurance, um,
if they don't have okay, So if you do have
health insurance, right, it pays for whatever your health insurance
does not pay for. Okay. So for instance, my kids
they got braces. Wants amazing health insurance through his job
paid for the braces, but of course there were you know,

(17:50):
thousands of dollars that it didn't cover. So this NBA
health insurance plan covered that. Yeah, so we didn't have
to pay a penny for two kids braces. I want
to be under the Dixon place, right, Okay, So you know,
so the plan is really designed, you know, to to
pick up those costs, those extra healthcare costs, and then
the healthcare can get expensive. Right. Health care is very expensive.

(18:12):
So these players and what happens They get a statement
in the mail, quarterly statement and it tells you your balance.
You know, how much you have in your supplemental health
insurance account, which is only to be used for your
health insurance God, for your health of expenses, not for strippers, right,
not for for flying the groupies here. Okay, okay, okay.

(18:36):
So what happened was one player, he was a ring leader. Okay,
he came up with a plan to scam the plan, right,
so you know, they saw, oh, we got this money, well,
let's get this money out. So he was in cahoots
with a doctor's office, a dentist's office in Beverly Hills,
and a chiropractor's office that would doctor phony invoices for

(19:01):
players to say that they got this work done at
this office on this date and it cast this amount
of money. Right, So he would give these phony invoices
to the players so that they can submit claims to
be reimbursed. Okay, but the claims are being reimbursed to
the player or to the doctors. Player, because you either

(19:22):
so you either pay out a pocket and get grand
burs you know. So say so, the player says, okay,
I went to the doctor's office and I and I paid,
you know, for my work, and here's my receipt and
I need you to reimburse me and send me a check.
Right so the ringleader, he would get kicked backs. Okay,
this is getting good, So all read and let me
tell you this. I read this whole thirty one page

(19:44):
indictment in bed and I was cracking up at the
stupidity of these people. You should be a lawyer. You
read thirty one pages because let me tell you what
was happening. This dumb ass ringleader was giving the same
invoice for the same work on the same date at

(20:07):
the same office. Oh my gosh, she was too to
multiple players and just changing the name. So this goes
under stupid criminals, stupid, like so stupid, man, it was
like typos and like so stupid. Now let me tell
you this. Players would literally put in a claim for
thirteen root canals on the same day. Who does that?

(20:32):
And then turn around a few months later and put
in another claim for six root canals? Have a question?
Have a question? Aren't these people well paid? Yeah and
so so I was talking to one. I was like
one and so and so played so many years in
the league. Why did he do this? And he was
like because to them it was free money. But if
you have enough money and so there's there's no limit.

(20:55):
I mean I always want more, I guess so. And
and the crazy thing is like, I'm very familiar with
this program because you know, I handle all the paperwork
in our house. And so when you're some men in
a claim the fine print and not even fine it's
like I attest that this information is true or I'll
be subject to a federal crime and blah blah blah.
So like you should know, don't don't play with them. Okay,

(21:17):
this is health insurance part. So let me tell you
that this is the crazy part. At least five are
One's former teammates were involved. Yes, so these are the
wrong men. Yes, so these are all retired people. They're
all retired. Lord happened. Five of them were one's former teammates.
One of them had Okay, so so one one of

(21:38):
one's teammates had They had a mutual friend, right, So
the mutual friend reached out to one a few months
ago and was like, yeah, I'm I'm gonna not say
his name. Yeah, DoD O brains trying to get in
touch with you because he said, the league owes you money. Okay,
so you know, I'm like, oh shoot, they like just
fine like money trail. Let's let's call Dotal Brain and

(22:02):
find out where this money is. What do you mean
because because they have you know, the players, they have
been sent like checks just years after for whatever reason.
So thank god we didn't call Dodo Brain because Dodo
Brain was on This was one of the players who
was getting these kickbacks. So he was literally trying to
get one and date he was literally right literally calling tailwan. Yeah,

(22:25):
he performed some health and health insurance fraud. You know
what I'm saying. So, but I want to like, these
people are going to jail. Oh yeah, this is definitely
a crime. This is definitely like you're going to jail,
especially the ring leader. But can I tell you how
much these guys were like defrauding? So and this is
the well that's like the total, so eighteen players, it
was like two point five million that the program kicked out, Okay,

(22:48):
but how much were they getting like so like some
players literally would get got reimbursed for three hundred thousand
dollars health insurance claim. And the crazy part to me
is this program. I look at it as this is
wonderful because when one is eighty five, he'll be he'll
be covered. You'll be covering kids, yes, but you'll be covered. No,

(23:11):
no, no no, it is it's it's wine, it's the kids.
It's you know, when we when we get married again me,
you know what what I'm saying. So so when we get
older and you don't have you know that income like
that or you know whatever, it's whatever it is, it's
like that money is there for you to use, Like
if he needs a hip replacement, you can use it.
You know what I'm saying. Like the stud is an idiot.

(23:32):
So they're literally draining those accounts. Well, Lebron will put
it back in. I mean, I mean, these guys they're
not getting that shipped back and but it isn't. I mean,
I was like just the audacity and the stupidity, and like,
you know, I don't wish anyone to go to jail,
but I cannot believe these guys actually put their like

(23:53):
sign put their names on this, like okay, but soon
there will be someone else who's retired, re irving okay
because he does not want to cooperate. And it's ongoing. Okay,
so his latest statement that now I don't know how
the ins and out, so I'm sure you know better
than me. But his latest statement that I heard was

(24:13):
that he was standing up for the people who are unheard. Right,
the hell are you talking about? And this and this
is the part that's not making sense, like he's it's
almost I feel like people are trying to make it
into an NBA issue, like, no, this is a um
New York issue. Yes, you can't. You gotta show a
vaccination card to enter any restaurant, right, Okay, So so

(24:33):
for those of you all who don't know we're talking about, So,
Kyrie Irving is in the league. He plays for Brooklyn
Brooklyn Nets, he prays for the Brooklyn Nets, and he
has decided that he is not getting vaccinated. Right, So
the state of New York it's like, okay, that's fine,
but you cannot go into the stadium unless you're vaccinating
and you show your litt vaccination card. So it's not

(24:53):
necessarily a league thing, an NBA thing, it is a
state thing. It's an employee employee earth. So I feel
like I personally feel like, hey, he's being I think
this is what I think this is my conspiracy there.
I think at first he was like, I'm not gonna
get vaccinated, and I'm just gonna take a stand and
I'm gonna get a little um shine from a statement

(25:14):
make statement, I'm getting little shine from ESPN. But then
he got into deep right, and he doesn't know how
to get out, and he doesn't want to sell out
to Fighter right, so he's like, I gotta I got
a whole strong. So he's and Kyrie makes a ton
of money every season, so he's literally willing to miss
out on all this money because he just doesn't want

(25:35):
to get vaccinated. And I think he does. I think
he does want to get vaccinated at this point, but
he is too far in this whole I'm gonna stay
in my ground that he doesn't know what to do.
So what's your prediction. He's gonna's gone as soon as
I started playing. I think he's gonna give vaccinated, so
he's gonna probably come out. Was like, oh, I did
my research. I talked to some doctors, I talked to

(25:57):
people like friends. I didn't you know, blah blah blah blah,
because there's I'm sorry, like these guys they want to
play basketball, like period the end and listen, and I
got vaccinated. He don't want to talk about it, but
he got vaccinated. But okay, I saw something a post
where it was like it was talking about how many
New York police officers were not vaccinated. So how is

(26:18):
that possible? I don't believe that really was that. I
feel like that was real. That was It was on
Shaun King's Instagram. Shaun King, let's just keep it moving.
I'm sorry. So so Steven A. Smith's panties are in
a bunch. He's going on Instagram live and just screaming
and saying that this is so irresponsible, and I believe
that it is, Like you can't, first of all, how

(26:42):
irresponsible are you towards your teammates, you know, for all
on a team, we're all in this together, like let's
let's do this together. And it's just irresponsible because dude, like,
COVID is real. But what about the players that like
refused to um disclose their vaccination status. That's not happy
a name, right, but I feel like, but it's like

(27:02):
so even like Lebron has not publicly said his vaccination status.
He didn't, yeah, but he said he was vaccinated, but
he said he doesn't feel like he should be the
person that to tell people to get vaccinated, right, okay, yes,
But then they were trying to bring up Magic Johnson,
which made me mad because everybody was like, oh, well,
you know Magic played with AIDS and that was fine then,

(27:24):
And you know, why is it okay if he plays
with COVID. I'm just the two don't mix because COVID
you can get it through the air, through the air
the particles that come out of your mouth, because you
can get the COVID from breathing on people. Okay, the end,
and leave Magic jobs out of this, let him, let
him live in retirement. Who said that? Very stupid people?

(27:48):
All right now, not switching gears just a little bit.
I want to talk about Kim Kardashian. We don't talk
about her often, and we're not gonna talk about her
Exciseman because we've already banned him shady, but we do
have to talk about the fact that she was on
S and now and she killed it like demolished it,
like dropped the mic and one like she did one
of those okay now and one of her jokes and okay,

(28:11):
in all fairness, I do love the fact that she's
able to joke about her life, her family and everything
else going on in her Yeah. I think that was
a great way for people to get to know her
because I think she's always probably been like that. But
you just get caught up in the image the Instagram,
you know what she puts out. But from but anyone
that I know that has met her or that knows her,

(28:33):
they say that she is the nicest person, which is
so good to hear. You don't really hear that often
about people you know her status. So the fact that
she can laugh at herself and that, you know, I
loved it. I became a um Kim fan, kind of
Kim appreciator. I Kim appreciate it. I did appreciate all
of her jokes. I did love this was This one

(28:56):
was strange, though she said she said it seriously, so
I don't know whether or not she knows it's a
joke that she married the richest black man in the country.
She was joking, I think, and she said the best
rapper ever alive. Okay, as as a wife, you want
to say, I'm married to Okay, I just because I

(29:19):
was like him. Yes, that was a joke. Okay, that
was that was a good joke. Then, yeah, it was
a good joke because it mats made people talk yes
to be like, oh god, he's not the richest person.
My favorite joke, though, was the joke she made about
her mother's boyfriend him being a gold digger. I missed
that one. You missed that. She was like, you know,

(29:40):
everybody said I was a gold digger, and I don't
even know, like how to be a gold digger. I
might ask my mom's boyfriend. Now that it's funny because Cory,
what is your job as you just bribe it plane
your life away? Okay? What is your job? Good? See

(30:00):
living that good lighte? Okay? So are you binging anything recently? Okay?
So I need to find something new because I just
recently bended. I might be a little late. I'm binging.
I've just been Lula Rich did okay to watch it? No?
I think I told you to watch it? Okay, okay, okay,
So it was I found it so entertaining interesting because

(30:24):
of a personal connection. So when I lived in the
first town house okay, okay, I used to look out
my back window and in the house across the street,
across the alley. You know, it's like the garage is
like backed up to each other. I could see through
this woman's garage that she had, like like it was

(30:46):
her garage, but it looked like a store, right, Okay,
So wait, all right, So Lula Rich is before I
tell a story about the lady. Lula Rich is a
documentary about the company Lula Row, which pretty much is
a multi level marketing company that sells leggings. Right, so

(31:06):
leggings printed. Like so they like with all these crazy prints.
They're really soft. They're like one size kind of fits
all or like certain you know, I don't know, like
um really soft. And they have all these crazy prints,
crazy prints, and and and they blew up, like their
business like blew up exponentially. So they have all these people,
mostly white ladies, across the country signing up paying thousands

(31:30):
of dollars to get all this Lula Row inventory and
to host the part. You know, you host a party,
people come, they buy stuff, you buy more inventory. Pot. Okay.
But it's like it was like a straight Ponzi scheme. Right, Well,
it started, it went. I think it was good. While
it was good. I think they grew too fast and
too big, and then it and then it imploded. So

(31:51):
Robin is always trying to get people to benefeit the
down They knew exactly what they were doing and they
were there too. Um we have a celebrity guest here
and he's looking through the way. His name is one
high One. Um, I think he's just come home from work,
and um one is We always love one. We love
seeing him. Okay. Anyway, back to the store, it was
a straight pin it was. It was a straight and

(32:12):
way it was straight. I'm I'm familiar with multi level
marketing companies. I've signed up for, you know, to sell
jewelry with Tracy Lynn jewelry and stuff like that, so
I think, you know, when it goes good, it goes good.
And I think they just I think they started off
with good intentions and they just got way into over
their head. Like I think the wife had good intentions

(32:32):
that husband and he was like I'm trying. He was like,
I don't care it, Okay, go ahead, so let me
tell you a story about the lady behind me. Okay.
So I would literally like look out my back window
and I could see through her garage just like lit
those little small windows in the garages, right, and I
could see it was like literally she had the ring light,

(32:53):
she had carpet and sofa and shelving. It literally looked
like a store. And then racks, you know, of all
these leggings everywhere, right, So I'm like, what the hell
is going away? Oh? And then I could see her, like,
you know, talking to a camera holding the leggings up,
and she was doing she was doing her Facebook stuff right,

(33:13):
so doing her Facebook live selling the leggings and stuff.
And so you know, one day I was talking to
her like what is going on here? And let me
tell you this woman had five kids, Okay, quit her
job to sell Lulu row in her garage, and she
was just her how much money she was making off
of these leggings. I even bought a couple from her

(33:34):
because they were really soft, they felt good. Did yours
have bananas on them? Or stars? Or I mean that
the prints on these leggings are more horrible. And I
had I had a few prints, but they also had
some solid so I got like a solid black solid
like light blue, and then I got like a couple
of prints. But I think I wear the prints like

(33:54):
once and I was like WHOA, THAT'SO much. And that
was the whole scheme of it. Like would make a
print and they would only make a certain number, so
you're like searching for that print, but you're searching for
like elephants or I don't know, lizards. Yeah, it was
crazy they made it seeing I don't know it was there,
like they played a whole mind trickery. Like I don't

(34:16):
want to like y'all just need to watch it and
just be amazed by like how it almost it felt
very cultish. It felt like they were brainwashed. And I'm
telling you, when I watched that document so like so
pretty much. You know, it was great people making all
this money. They were like, um, the Lula Roe company
encouraged people to you know, buy designer bags and nice

(34:37):
cars to kind of show off like oh what selling
Lula Row can do for you? So um. So then
you know, start everything started going to ship. They've been
indicted press the late the couple it's a married couple
that that owned the company and run a company. They
have been indicted. Right, they went to travel counts of something.

(34:57):
I will say, the business still exists. I did Google?
Did you end up Google? So they still have a
website and they still exist. So um, you know, they
ended up having supply issues. They were, you know, starting
to steal people's design, like their their designers felt overwhelmed
because they had to like get out so much, so
much stuff. Then they really started I don't see, let
me stop giving away everything when I do want to say,

(35:18):
I swear one of those people they featured on the
show complaining was my neighbor. I swear it was her.
I swear. I can't believe it. I swear it was her.
I mean, and then so I feel bad. I'm like,
she really quit her job to sell that stuff, and
clearly it didn't end up well for her. No, it

(35:39):
didn't end up well for any the majority of the people.
And they were making money. They okay, so the owners
are making billions in the billions and everybody else. You know,
if it's a tear, you know, the top people are
getting the most of the money. So if you get
in early, you're making like a hundred thousand dollars a
month at least, just off of like the people under you.

(35:59):
But so and it's the second tier there they were
making like millions, So they they started focusing on recruiting salespeople.
And that's where things got really bad, because it's like
they had all these sales people and then that's when
the quality of the product, you know, just slipped away
and they got in with the product. That's not how
the quality slipped away. Okay, okay, we're not gonna don't

(36:23):
just watch it, but just know that one of those
ladies complaining on Facebook was my neighbor. It was so
fascinating to watch though her do that, and I almost
contemplated signing up to sell it robbing you. I would.
I would have tried selling you some legons. So I
do not want like because the next the next like
artwork will be like a picture of our faces on

(36:44):
the leggings, right, or it'll be like r h P
all over it, little cherry blossing. So I thought about it.
We are now coming to the part of episode where
we're gonna go over a couple more of You ask
and we answer. Okay, you ask and we answer, Okay,

(37:06):
So let me say who these people are gonna I'm
gonn give the name because this was a very good question.
So just toy box. Okay, so this is this is Instagram.
Just toy box asked me, what is one risk you're
glad you took. I have several in my life. That's

(37:27):
a good question. But um, and every risk that I
have taken, quote risk, my mother has told me not
to do it. So anything my mother tells me not
to do, you do it has worked out well. Sorry mam,
but it is what it is. Okay. For instance, she
told me not to marry Jamal. Guess what, I have

(37:48):
three beautiful kids. So but you can look at it
either way. Yes, yes, the kids, yes, yes, and did
not married him. I would not have these kids. I
might have, of course kids, but not these kids. And
I really really like these kids. Your kids are amazing. Okay,
So was that was that my answer? Okay, I'll give

(38:10):
it multi. My mother told me not to buy my house.
I love my house. Okay, okay, love my house. My
mother told me not to do the real house. Oh
it's a big one. She's like, it's gonna be horrible,
it's gonna be get help. People are gonna throw water
on you, and um, everybody's gonna want people to fight

(38:31):
and bubbapna come sing. They're gonna have f bombs all
over the place, just out don't do that. Guess what,
Nobody has thrown water on me. But everything else is true.
They probably they probably have wanted to throw water on you. Yes, yes,
So I mean in my whole point that it's like, look,
you gotta go with your gut in life and figure
out what works for you, no matter what your mama says,

(38:53):
your daddy says, or your friends. Like, if if you
feel like it's right in your gut, then go for it.
And honestly, if you take a real and it doesn't
work out, there's a lesson to be learned from that
from not working out. So it's not even okay, take
the risk and it better work out. You take it,
and if it doesn't work out, then you learn from
it and you build upon it. I don't do it again. Okay,

(39:16):
So my question did I ever show you all how
little these my questions are because Carle the d o
O printed them. No, this was me you, This was
all Robin. Tell me about a risk that you've taken,
that you're happy that you took a risk that I've taken.

(39:40):
I mean, definitely doing the show for sure, Like, but
for me, it was like I didn't even think twice
about it right, you know, because I I looked at
it like you only live once, you know. And I
looked at it as you only live once. And you know,
I have the attitude of like I don't give ship
anybody think about me, So I don't care what my
mom was saying. My cousin say, you know what I mean,

(40:01):
like I'm doing, um the show, and then you know
I would buying a house for sure. Yeah, I think
that's a risk for you know, almost anyone because anything happened, um,
and you know, like I've I've always open that like
I always worry about money or just like you know,

(40:22):
I'm thinking about, oh my gosh, when I'm eighty years old,
you know, stuff like that. So so buying a house
and definitely a risk for me. Um. Okay, have you
ever tried to get your sons or daughters to start
a new activity piano, baseball, dancing, karate, etcetera, and they
didn't want to do it anymore? How would you balance
from letting them give it a chance to just letting

(40:44):
them do whatever they want. That's a good question. Do
you have an answer? So I tried to get my
kids involved in music. Um, I forced the cello on Corey. Okay,
So when Robin said, music in my mind, you know,
you know what played in my mind drums? What played

(41:06):
in my mind was like a microphone that you sing, right,
she said, a freaking cello. I'll tell you. This was
when he was in third grade. So in third grade
the only thing they could music where I sign up
for was orchestra. I ultimately wanted him to play drums.

(41:26):
So I wanted him to, you know, do the cello,
you know, get the hang of you know, just music,
music class, and um, yeah, I think I ruined that
for him. I think so it was tired of loving
a damn cello. It was the chill was probably bigger
than him. Oh my gosh, which the way mine? Which
child was his core? The older one? Corey, come talk

(41:47):
to me because like your aunt's say, I was gonna
take care of you because your mama's trip. So I
messed that up. I messed that up, really. But you know,
my father is a musician, and my kids would you
go to my parents how else? And they would play
music with him, and so I always felt like, you know,
they had a little music in them. But I guess
I pushed it a little too soon. Yes, yes, yes,

(42:08):
I have introduced my kids to everything. So like I
made them just playing instruments. So a door played the flute,
Angel played the clarinet, Grace played something I don't know.
I put them in swimming classes, I put them in
piano classes, and put them in singing lessons. They did
ballet forever um, they've done soccer, basketball, and they've never

(42:28):
pushed back on you. So after about five years in
ballet um, they told me go town collective years Okay,
after piano for about a year, they told me kick rocks. Um.
So everything they have pretty much said they didn't want
to do anymore. But I had to expose them too
as much as I possibly could, and they appreciated it.

(42:51):
See mine, I can't get them. I think I ruined
it with the child. I can't get them to do anything.
And in the sad part, like so, my son Carter
actually has a really nice voice, like can yes, I
feel like he could sing, but he like he's like shy,
he doesn't want to do it, and he can kind
of rap a little bit. And I feel like these
kids today, the way they're playing these damn video games,

(43:11):
they better get their butt on Twitch and start streaming.
And with Twitch, that's like where they so kind of
yeah so no, so Twitches like where people stream. I
guess you can stream anything. But for whatever reason, you know,
these kids like to watch people play video games and
they make money off of it. Like these people make

(43:33):
like millions of dollars. And I'm like, okay, come on, like,
get you a little Twitch account on and start streaming. Yeah. Talking,
my kids are funny. They're charismatic, Like especially like Carter
is just amazing. He's just so shy. He doesn't want
to do it, and I'm like, give him a minute,
he's gonna break out of the shot. Maybe yeah, as
so as season gets into girls or he's or no.

(43:54):
But the boys, boys, they think they're too cool. They're
not as like adventurous. So all my kids want to
do is play basketball. Okay, so we're gonna end this
episode with red flags because red flags has been a
big thing these days. Okay, it's all over the internet,
the Instagram that everything. Did you have some red flags? Um? Well,

(44:15):
let's see. No, I mean I just thought so it's funny.
I wanted to present question um as like you know,
a topic that we would talk about in the future
episode and then I just the what like yesterday on Instagram,
I kept seeing all these posts about you know, red
flags people, right, right, A lot of times, guys, let's
be clear, we ignore the red flags. We see them,

(44:36):
they're like flashing in our face, they're smacking us upside
the head, but we just ignore them, right right, yes,
very true, very true? Um, I mean okay, right, especially
the ones where it's like the whole like you have Okay,
so like this one, me and my baby mam must
stay in the same house, but we're not together, right,

(44:57):
So who who's the red flag? Four? The dude? The
new dude is telling a new girl, oh that he
lives with red flag? Right, Okay, now when I'm talking
about red flags, like that's no, that's purple, what's darking
in red? Black? Yeah, that's a black flag? Okay yeah no,

(45:19):
or like so it's a red flag, like he won't
tell you where he lives, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, right,
because that means he has a wife, yes, right, yes,
or if like he has a he has a ring
mark on his ring finger, he doesn't have a ring there,
that's a red flag, right. If I read one that
was like Um, he asked me to go half on

(45:41):
the bill for the restaurant. Yeah, yeah, that's a that's
a hill. No, I don't know because I'm getting in
the car and I'm driving home, like, no, but this
one similar by it and I'll give you the money back.
Have you ever actually been so I've like loan people money,
you know, just a little maybe somebody sixty dollars here

(46:02):
or you know. I did loan one of my friends
like thousand times and got it back. But listen, I
an ex boyfriend. I loaned him ten thousand dollars and
he said, you know, I know. I just said that.
Anyway wants his name. So he was like, he was like,

(46:22):
I can't pay you all back at one time. I
can't pay you overtime. I was like, cool, it wasn't
coming fast enough. I literally told somebody else another dude.
I kind of like put a hit out on him.
I was like, Yo, when you see so and so,
you let him know he owed me money. I got
real gangster and street with it. I was like, let
him know he owed me money, and um, yeah, I

(46:44):
got my money real quick, did I did? I got
a phone call and at Giselle where are you I'm
going to give you your money, my god, that's all
you need to do. But isn't it funny so when
you when people owe you money, like, aren't you like
checking everything that they're doing? Like, well this is actually
before Instagram? Okay, but you mean we like, wait minute,
those shoes? Yes, yes, well he didn't really wants to

(47:04):
see because he knew I was gonna be like red
lobsters that he was my sixty dollars Like what anyway,
Oh my gosh, that is our show. People. We love
y'all so much. Thank you so much for listening, and
don't forget either, live your life, reasonable both, all right,
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