November 10, 2021 • 29 mins
The Estefans reveal their own paranormal experiences as renowned psychic medium Matt Fraser connects a skeptical Lili to her mother who died 43 years ago. A grieving mother shares emotional messages from her 6-year-old son after his tragic death, and a survivor of a near death experience describes what happened during the 30 minutes she was trapped underwater and drowned.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Then those me and Gloria Stefan. Here you are listening
to Red Table Talk via Stephens Podcast, all your favorite
episodes from our Facebook watch show in audio. I would
be woken up by groups of people standing by my bed.
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Do you believe in the afterlife? When something like this happens?
You question everything and acclaimed psychic medium connects with the
other side. Your mom says to me, she was very
nervous about you when you were younger with men. Do
you know about this? Yes, for the first time ever
at our Red Table your mom passed. Your mother is
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here the dead speak. She just leaned over and with me.
Now you're gonna let her know. One in three Americans
believe that they have had a psychic experience. Today's topic,
the afterlife, is one of the most popular topics of
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discussion among our Facebook family. In the wake of so
much uncertainty and unexpected loss, it's only natural for more
and more people to lean into the hope of life beyond.
I have personally always been fascinated by spiritual and psychic experiences.
I believe completely, I recognize them. We've talked about it
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all the time. I shared all my experiences. For example,
when I was about eleven twelve years old. When I
would go to sleep at night, I would be woken
up by groups of people standing by my bed. I
never saw actual faces, it was their silhouettes. I wasn't afraid.
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You weren't afraid. No, I was not afraid. And I
asked my mom, Mom, did you bring somebody into my
room last night to say hello? And she goes, no, okay,
but you don't think that was a dream. I was
fully awake. And when I told my grandmother, who was
very spiritual, she said, okay, look, don't ask questions, close
your eyes and pray. I have no doubt that you
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have this ability. But if you develop this ability, you're
gonna be constantly bombarded by messages, people, things that you
may not want to see. So she kind of turned
me away from it. Although my intuition has stayed very strong.
You know that. Yeah, I know that, and I will
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listen and your dad too, will listen to that intuition.
Intuition is the is the beginning of all of our
connection to whatever else is out there. It's an important
tool that we have. I think there are also signs
like the dragonfly for us, like you know, the dragonfly
that I have here on my arm. When Alula, Dad's
mom passed away, Dad and I were there. Dad didn't
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want to leave her side. She was already you know,
like wasn't speaking for a long time. She had had strokes.
The moment that she passed the door clear a bang
and right in the door frame of the door, a
dragon fly inside the inside the house had been killed
and had fallen well. We released her ashes out miles
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and miles out in the ocean. There were dragonflies spinning
around her. And I may not remember this, but when
we went to go to her memorial, we get inside
the car, and inside the car there was a dragon
fly on the steering wheel, which when your dad sat down,
it flew out, and then as we drove out it
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was flying in front of the car, and as we
passed her house it flew into the house. But it
keeps happening because the last picture that I got from
from my uncle Emilia, dragon fly comes to his hand.
I just said, there but on the finger, on the finger.
We don't know what happens after life. That why not
remained connected to our loved ones even if we can't
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see them and hug them, right now people are afraid,
like my hands are cold now, I mean I I
feel like a little bit. Those don't scare me? Right
For some people, you know, they're like I rather not know,
Like have you ever gotten any messages of what you
consider messages from either Nina or maybe your mom or no,
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not that you have focused on because you know I've
told you my mom turns lights on and off for
me all the time. And maybe it's happening to me.
But if I don't pay attention, and I don't think
of a person that is paying attention, I don't even
question things like that. Now do I think I have
a guardian angel? Yes? Do I think that you feel? Yes?
You pray every night, Fla. I pray every night, and
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I finished taking my mom and I sent here a
kids every night. When we were putting this show together
and we were thinking, who do we bring to the table,
because it's a very important subject matter for us, I'd
like to welcome someone that is respect did and has
gained acclaim because of his amazing spot on reading and
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he likes skeptics. All he says, it's coming with an
open mind. He loves skeptics. That's why I love him
psychic media. Matt Fraser is famous worldwide for speaking with
the dead. Your father just tells me that you have
close up his this close that you kept up his
not they're thinking about making something out of my clothes.
Oh god, you know that he loved. Just tell me
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Bahama shirts. So I saved them and we're gonna make
a Quills are best selling author with a hit TV show.
Are you feeling anything now? Yeah? So, first of all,
your mom's depart him. Your mom's sitting right next to
you Matt's readings, shock and aw. Did you lose your dad? Though?
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That he's here? When I'm connecting, he keeps showing me
this issue. You're gonna think I'm in saying of somebody
spraying windex on a planet. Thank you so much. Come
on in mess Did I hear my name? Yes? Yes,
thank you. Take us back to your first experiences that
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you remember. When my grandmother first passed away, she was
the psychic one in the family. She was the one
that I was super close with. She passed when I
was just three years old. I had this incredible bond
with her, and she was actually the first spirit that
I had seen, But I never knew she died, huh,
But it wasn't scary for me. My grandmother would come
and sit on the end of my bed and talk
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to me while everyone went to sleep, and I remember
seeing her just like I'm seeing you, Gloria. The only
difference was is that she had like this white light
around her, and you weren't like, why is grandma glowing? No?
I never really questioned. It was little. How old are
you three? For old? I talked to her. I remember
her coming and reading me stories. But you don't think
that was a dream, and you feel like he was real.
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Sometimes I dreamed and he's so real that I wake
up and I'm like, I can tell you this was
not a drink. There definitely not a dream. After my
grandmother came in and I had that experience with her,
there were strangers coming in and talking to me, like literally,
I had people in the house that had died, that
was sitting over my bed trying to talk to me,
speak to me, connect with me, and I was petrified.
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I remember being in the bedroom at night, yelling and
screaming for my mom to come in and to help
me because I was so afraid and so scared. I
keep thinking that you. I'm like, maybe he was having dreams.
Listen the table and all all opinions, welcome to the table.
What do you tell to the skeptics? I mean, how
can you not believe? There's so many people who don't
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know what to believe. They don't know if heaven or
the afterlife is real. They don't believe in connecting with
the other side. They don't believe in very much. But
you know there's times when one message can change everything. Okay, Matt,
is anybody coming through it right now? So right now
when I'm here, I'm not gonna lie. There's a million
different souls that are here that are trying to connect.
And what's so crazy is like me being here with
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all of you, I'm sensing them, and right away your
mom passed. Yes, your mother is here, because right away
I'm sending her and I keep hearing her saying I'm sorry,
I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. She just leaned over
and said to me, Matt, you gotta let her know
how much that I love her, because your mom says
to me that before her passing, she had a lot
of struggles with her moods. She's telling me that her
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moods were up and down, up and down, up and down.
And your mom stepping forward and she's taking responsibility for
the way that she died. But she's telling me that
this was both a physical issue that she thought and
also an emotional issue. To understand that because for most
of your life, your mom tells me that she thought
that she was sick or thought that there were things
that were wrong with her. She thought there was something
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wrong with her, Like what was she telling me? Why? Oh, absolutely,
she's talking about illness. She thought that she was ill.
She says, I didn't feel well. She's talking about that
there were different parts of her body. Your mom always
thought she was sick here in this world. And the
first thing that she wants to let you know is
that she's sorry because she didn't get to be the
mother that she wanted to be here in this world.
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She says, I was so focused on myself, she says,
in taking care of myself and trying to find out
what was wrong with me. She says that it's like
I got pulled away from my family. And your mom
says to me that what she wants you to know
is that you became the woman that she wanted to
be here in this world, she says, And you need
to know that because your mom tells me that every
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day she watches over you from heaven, she says. And
I'm sorry for ever abandoning you because you feel like
your mom just left your life, she says, But I've
been a part of you every single day. Your mom
tells me that you have a stronger connection with her
now that she passed than she was here in this
world because you feel like she's included in everything. You
know that she's watching over you. And your mom says
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to me, thank you for keeping my positive memories alive.
My mom went through a lot, and it's true that
I couldn't connect when I was a shyl because she
was not well. She was diagnosed as a schizophrenic and uh,
and the conversations that I had with her, um, we
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couldn't connect. It was very, very hard for me. But
I wanted her to know that I forgave her a
long time ago, and uh, she's been so good to me.
I wanted her to know. Your mom tells me that
when she passed away, they gave you a picture of her,
and you carry that picture no matter where you went.
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And still to this day, you have your that picture
with me. You need to bring up this picture because
no matter what my daughter did in life, I was
everywhere that picture went. It's incredible because I always wondered myself.
I wanted my mom sees everything that I've done and
if she's proud of me, always the first thing she
tells me, Wow, she's here. Wow, what a beautiful woman.
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Thank you beautiful, You're welcome. And here's what's also facing.
Your mother is also here, and she's running back and
forth between you and between your daughter Emily here. And
I feel like you and your grandmother and you and
your mom had two different relationships hearing this world. And
first of all, I want to let you know that
your mom wants to thank you for the way that
you took care of her before she passed, because your
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mom tells me that you stepped up to the plate
and you did everything for her. And I'm gonna tell
you she's also telling me, my yeah, that she loved
your husband as well. Here in this world. She adored him,
and she wants to thank you for pulling her back
and being part of the family. You know, your mom
wants you to know one thing. She says to me
that you have never disappointed her. She left this world
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knowing how much that you and the family had loved her.
But your grandma has a very special message for you.
And your grandmother says to me that the one thing
that she wants you don't know and understand, is she
wants you to show the world to the side that
you showed her. Your grandma tells me that you're a rough,
tough frame, puff on the outside on the outside tattoo.
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You're tough and you're strong. But your grandmother tells me
that you love everybody. You love everything. You're there for everybody.
And your grandmother says to me, she says, speak with
your heart. Speak with your heart, she says, because the
world needs to see the side of you that I
saw when I was here in this world. Because your
grandma tells me that you're a little insecure about your writing.
She talks about you writing music and you would sit
on the side of her and you would write songs.
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And nobody knows about this, but you would sit with
her and you would sing for her, and you would
have conversations with her, she says, And I want to
let you know she says that those were the best
times because I felt like I was another mother within
your life. But I'm gonna tell you something. Don't get
upset with me. I'm only the messenger. Your grandma says,
you two need to stop fighting. She says, Matt, She goes,
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they're both so strong minded and they're so tough with
one another. Your mom says to me that you're very
protective over Emily, the same way that your mom was
protective over you, and you shield her all the time
because you're so afraid of something happening to her, about
her failing, about her not achieving something or doing something.
And your mom says to me, it's okay to let
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her go. Sometime she's gonna learn life herself. I'm learning
it and learning it little by little. Your mom says
to me, listen, that's the one mistake that I made
when I was here with you. Your mom tells me
when she was here, no matter what you did, she
had to have her hand and everything. Who is that true?
And I'm gonna tell you something. Your mom says to
me when I'm connecting with her that she was very
nervous about you when you were younger with men I'm
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not talking about dating. I'm talking about she was very
protective over you because she saw things back when she
was younger. Do you know about this, she says, So
I want to let you know. She goes, that I
was protective of you for that reason. She says. It
wasn't that I didn't like your husband or who you
were with at the time. She goes, MY main goal
was protecting you because your mom tells me that she
did not have a good life here in this world
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back when she was younger. She says. I saw things.
I experienced things, things that happened within the family, she says,
and that's why I was so protective over you. I
understand that. The message from my mother is like very
telling for me. So I appreciate that mine was spectagonal
and my mother because I prayed so much for your grandma,
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don't fight with me anymore. She was talking to them,
both of us. And I get it from somewhere. Yeah,
from your dad, We're we're really heavy. They good things, mom, exactly.
I got hear that. But recently you had an online
reading with a woman named Anne, and she had a
tragic loss of her six year old son, and what
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did you know about her before this session. Absolutely nothing. Nothing.
Let's take a look at that online reading. I have
a soul that's coming through and tell me they passed
up their head? Who passed up the aneurysm or like
the brain tumor. My son passed away earlier this year.
Your son just told me that you brought him near
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and far to go and get treatment. Do you understand
that I did. We wait a minute, wait a minute,
don't say another word for a second. Oh, you cared
about asked his mother, was making sure that he was
a normal kid, that he had a normal life. You
wanted him to have fun. You were like you handled
all the stress, all the concern, all the medical and
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you just wanted your son to be like every other kid.
You understand that. Yes, I asked him for every day
for signs for validation, even though I am logical and
I'm I'm skeptical, and I just want to know it
was really him and then I'm gonna see him again
one day. I can promise you that you will. And
he just said to me, I love you more because
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you just said in your head, I love you, thank you.
So I really wish I could come through the screen
and hug you right now. You were really, really wonderful
and I saw that at the end of the reading,
all you wanted to do was give her a hug.
So you know what, I want to make that possible
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for you. And this is an Oh my god, I'm
so excited to see you. We wanted to make that
happen for you. First of all, how are you doing
much better now? A lot better now? I got so
much from that. It was just no, I don't want
to say closure, because it's never gonna be closed, but
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just the amount of healing that I got from communicating
with my son, that's just I needed it so bad.
Understanding my god, I love her. Tell us about your son. Well,
he was born with Wilm's tumor, which is pretty rare
in children under the age of ten, so we started
Chimo right away at three months old. He relapsed several
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times and finally there was just nothing else that we
could do. He knew that he had cancer. He knew
that he had a tumor. That is all that he knew.
He didn't know what terminal even meant. I just tried
to make it as normal for him as possible. But
his in the hospital was his normal. So I just
tried to make it as enjoyable as you did a
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wonderful job, because he said that to you right in
that reading. He didn't Everything that was said in that
reading was a percent accurate, and every single thing he
said things that I've never told anyone. And then at
the end when he said I love you more, my
son said that to me every day. That is so beautiful.
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You know. The reading is meant to validate some of
the things that you already sent and feel, you know,
through your own intuition. Absolutely. And also what's so amazing
is before people even come to me as a medium,
you loved ones already try to reach you. You know,
sometimes we don't pay attention to the signs. Sometimes we
don't know there are signs. Sometimes we question is it
really our loved one? Is it really them? You know?
Why does this keep happening to me? What are some
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of the signs maybe prior or after speaking to Matt
that you feel he sends to you. I started noticing
signs immediately after his passing. It sounds crazy when I
say it does, really sounds crazy. Say, I think it
was the second night after he passed, I was in
bed and I got woken up by this. It was
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like someone was playing adele Hello in my ear and
there was no It was completely pitch black, silent in
my house. It startled me awake and it just Hello
out of a dead sleep in the middle of the night.
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Then I started having the visitation dreams, which it's hard
to explain, but they're just not like regular believe it
happened when I'm in between sleep and awake and there
it's so real that I feel his warmth when I
wake up. He always just looks very content and happy
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and healthy. And does that give you comfort? It's kind
of like double edged sword because you miss him because
I wake up and he's not there. I know, And
what would you tell know? There's that most hope. You
think that you believe things, and then when something like
this happens, you question everything. And even though I was
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getting those signs every day and they were coming in
so strong, I still have that doubt because I so
badly need to know that I'm going to see my
child again. Sorry, I'm gonna see your child so incredibly much.
That's the thing that grief does, you know, Grief is
the worst thing that we ever go through as humans,
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because grief is that one thing that makes us question,
you know, is there a heaven? Is there an afterlife?
You can be the most spiritual person, you can be
the person that's the most faith, but when grief comes in,
it takes away all those positive memories, all of those
good things, and it makes us have doubt. And that's
why your son is coming through in all of these
different ways because he wants you to be able to
let go of that, because letting go does not mean
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and go of your loved one. Letting gold means letting
go of the pain, the her, the grief, the guilt,
so that you can experience him a different way. I
definitely can say that after my reading, I don't doubt anymore.
I actually have someone joining us that is a scientist.
Dr Mary Neil is an orthopedic surgeon, former Director of
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Spine Surgery at USC, and a number one New York
Times best selling author. In Dr Neil drowned on a
kayaking trip. She was underwater for thirty minutes without oxygen.
The experience of dying transformed her from skeptic to believer.
Hell loud, Welcome to the Red Table. We are ready,
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so ready for you. Welcome, Please share your story with us.
I was having a wonderful day kayaking and chile in
South America until circumstances are such that I was held
over a waterfall and my boat became hinned in the
rocks and the underwater features under eight ten ft of water.
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I was without oxygen for thirty minutes. When my body
came over the front deck of the boat, I could
feel my bones breaking. I'm an north Pack surgeon, I
know what that's like. I made a very active decision
and asked that God's will be done. And the moment
I asked that, I was immediately overcome with such an
unbelievably physical experience of being held and comforted and absolutely
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surrounded by this blanket of pure, unconditional love. I never
had panic, I never had fear. I never had any
of those You were there, you were aware. Oh yeah,
I gotta still feel the plastic of my boat. I
could feel the pressure of the water, and at a
certain point my body sort of was sucked out of
the boat. And when that happened, my spirit kind of
peeled away from my body and I was immediately greeted
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by a group of I don't know what people, spirits, strings,
whatever you want to call them, and they took me
down this pathway towards this great down structure that I
knew was kind of the point of no return. And
it was the most beautiful experience because it spoke beauty
to me. And what speaks beauty to me is color
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and flowers and the aromas, and that's what I saw.
I felt so known and so loved. I mean, I
had a great life, I had a husband, for little kids.
I loved my life. But I was home and I
really had no intention of coming back. Eventually got to
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the end of this pathway, and after what felt like
many hours of this incredible experience of understanding not the
divine nature of the universe, but the divine order, and
what I discovered are a couple of things, many things,
one of which is a God's love is present. There
is no room for destructive emotion. There's no bitterness, anger, shame.
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We'll remorse all those things. It's not a matter of forgiveness,
it's just it just doesn't exist. I was eventually told
that it wasn't my time, that I had more work
to do on earth, and that I had to go back,
and so I was given basically a laundry list of
things yet to be done. Every single thing on the
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list has been something that would be challenging and push
me definitely beyond my my comfort zone, not the least
of which is knowing that I was expected to share
my experiences with other people. And one of the most
challenging things certain land the list had to do with
the coming and unexpected death of my oldest son, who
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at the time was nine, and I was given a
pretty strong idea when that would be that he would pass. Yeah,
you were told in your journey that your son was
going to pass and you woke up with that exact memory.
That's unbelievable and difficult and extremely difficult. How long did
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he take? He was nine? Nine years? Wow? Did you
share that with anyone in those nine years? On my
son's eighteenth birthday, I did tell him everything, because there
were some things that happened that made me think that
the plan for his life had changed. Later, probably six
months later, it was like I was picked up out
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of bed and put on the ground and God said, Okay,
you know what you're gonna do what I asked, And
one of the expectations had been that I would start
writing as a way to share, and I said okay,
and I, over the course of five or six days,
wrote the manuscript to my first book. And I was
so elated. I mean I felt so and so joyful.
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So I grabbed my youngest son and we drove into
town to get ice cream and celebrate because I was
feeling so good. And that's when I called my oldest
son to share this great news. And that's when I
was told that he had been hit by car and killed.
Oh gosh, how did you deal with that? Mary? I
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was devastated. I mean, there's no way around it. I
love that boy. He and I were very close, and
I will forever miss his physical precedence. Here. That said,
I will honestly say that even on my most sad day,
I experienced absolute gratitude and intense joy. I wish I
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had that. When I came back from Chile. I spent
quite a long time in the hospital, multiple operations, that
kind of thing, and then many many months have rehab.
And I spent those pans of rehab trying to come
up with some other explanation from my experiences other than
it being spiritual. And at the end of that had
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to realize that, no, this is the real deal. I've
done the research, I've done the reading, I've talked to people,
I've done whatever it takes to be able to make
the conclusion that, you know what, I know, there's life
after death, and therefore when I suffer a loss, setback,
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a challenge, whatever, well I can face that with gratitude
because I know that we are here for a reason
and there really is a plan for each one of
us and the world that's one of hope. Let go
and let go whatever your got is the thing to
do to let go well, because it's all a control thing.
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Let me ask you listening to her, because we have
two people here who are two different stages of the grief.
I mean, your son just recently passed away. I can't
imagine being on this show at your point. You know,
if I had not spoken to him, I would not
be able to be sitting here because I'm literally just
now able to get out of bed like a function normally.
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I'm only forty, like, I have so much of my
life that I have to live without him. And I
asked him every single day, I say, Jackson, what am
I supposed to learn from this. What path am I
supposed to take? That's why I'm here looking at her
and how strong she is. You know, she's going through
a similar situation that you've gone through, and you're gonna
be just as strong, and you're gonna you're gonna believe
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that this is living proof right here. Color will come
back to your world. I think she will be able
to help, and that's why I'm here. I want, if anything,
to give hope to other broken hearted parents that are
just devastated like I am, and to know that they're there.
You know, they're they're the signs. Pay attention to what's
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going on around you, and they'll give you science. He
brought me here. I know that he did. There's a
reason that I'm here. He's just like, listen, listen for it.
And when our loved ones passed, they're just out of sight.
I hope that this gives everyone a little bit of hope,
since we are experiencing some pretty dark days right now. Collectively,
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let's just love each other and try to be the
best people that we can for everyone. All Right, thank
you so much, amazing, thank you, thank you for having
me on a lot of people might think, Okay, is
my loved one seeing everything I'm doing? The answer is absolutely.
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They can see every single thing that you do, everything
that even your search history everything. So I thought we
had a private life, So there's no secret line. There's
no secret life when it comes to your loved ones.
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Then those me and Gloria Stefan. Here you are listening
to Red Table Talk via Stephens Podcast, all your favorite
episodes from our Facebook watch show in audio. I would
be woken up by groups of people standing by my bed.
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Do you believe in the afterlife? When something like this happens?
You question everything and acclaimed psychic medium connects with the
other side. Your mom says to me, she was very
nervous about you when you were younger with men. Do
you know about this? Yes, for the first time ever
at our Red Table your mom passed. Your mother is
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here the dead speak. She just leaned over and with me.
Now you're gonna let her know. One in three Americans
believe that they have had a psychic experience. Today's topic,
the afterlife, is one of the most popular topics of
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discussion among our Facebook family. In the wake of so
much uncertainty and unexpected loss, it's only natural for more
and more people to lean into the hope of life beyond.
I have personally always been fascinated by spiritual and psychic experiences.
I believe completely, I recognize them. We've talked about it
(01:27):
all the time. I shared all my experiences. For example,
when I was about eleven twelve years old. When I
would go to sleep at night, I would be woken
up by groups of people standing by my bed. I
never saw actual faces, it was their silhouettes. I wasn't afraid.
(01:50):
You weren't afraid. No, I was not afraid. And I
asked my mom, Mom, did you bring somebody into my
room last night to say hello? And she goes, no, okay,
but you don't think that was a dream. I was
fully awake. And when I told my grandmother, who was
very spiritual, she said, okay, look, don't ask questions, close
your eyes and pray. I have no doubt that you
(02:13):
have this ability. But if you develop this ability, you're
gonna be constantly bombarded by messages, people, things that you
may not want to see. So she kind of turned
me away from it. Although my intuition has stayed very strong.
You know that. Yeah, I know that, and I will
(02:34):
listen and your dad too, will listen to that intuition.
Intuition is the is the beginning of all of our
connection to whatever else is out there. It's an important
tool that we have. I think there are also signs
like the dragonfly for us, like you know, the dragonfly
that I have here on my arm. When Alula, Dad's
mom passed away, Dad and I were there. Dad didn't
(02:57):
want to leave her side. She was already you know,
like wasn't speaking for a long time. She had had strokes.
The moment that she passed the door clear a bang
and right in the door frame of the door, a
dragon fly inside the inside the house had been killed
and had fallen well. We released her ashes out miles
(03:18):
and miles out in the ocean. There were dragonflies spinning
around her. And I may not remember this, but when
we went to go to her memorial, we get inside
the car, and inside the car there was a dragon
fly on the steering wheel, which when your dad sat down,
it flew out, and then as we drove out it
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was flying in front of the car, and as we
passed her house it flew into the house. But it
keeps happening because the last picture that I got from
from my uncle Emilia, dragon fly comes to his hand.
I just said, there but on the finger, on the finger.
We don't know what happens after life. That why not
remained connected to our loved ones even if we can't
(04:00):
see them and hug them, right now people are afraid,
like my hands are cold now, I mean I I
feel like a little bit. Those don't scare me? Right
For some people, you know, they're like I rather not know,
Like have you ever gotten any messages of what you
consider messages from either Nina or maybe your mom or no,
(04:21):
not that you have focused on because you know I've
told you my mom turns lights on and off for
me all the time. And maybe it's happening to me.
But if I don't pay attention, and I don't think
of a person that is paying attention, I don't even
question things like that. Now do I think I have
a guardian angel? Yes? Do I think that you feel? Yes?
You pray every night, Fla. I pray every night, and
(04:43):
I finished taking my mom and I sent here a
kids every night. When we were putting this show together
and we were thinking, who do we bring to the table,
because it's a very important subject matter for us, I'd
like to welcome someone that is respect did and has
gained acclaim because of his amazing spot on reading and
(05:05):
he likes skeptics. All he says, it's coming with an
open mind. He loves skeptics. That's why I love him
psychic media. Matt Fraser is famous worldwide for speaking with
the dead. Your father just tells me that you have
close up his this close that you kept up his
not they're thinking about making something out of my clothes.
Oh god, you know that he loved. Just tell me
(05:27):
Bahama shirts. So I saved them and we're gonna make
a Quills are best selling author with a hit TV show.
Are you feeling anything now? Yeah? So, first of all,
your mom's depart him. Your mom's sitting right next to
you Matt's readings, shock and aw. Did you lose your dad? Though?
(05:49):
That he's here? When I'm connecting, he keeps showing me
this issue. You're gonna think I'm in saying of somebody
spraying windex on a planet. Thank you so much. Come
on in mess Did I hear my name? Yes? Yes,
thank you. Take us back to your first experiences that
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you remember. When my grandmother first passed away, she was
the psychic one in the family. She was the one
that I was super close with. She passed when I
was just three years old. I had this incredible bond
with her, and she was actually the first spirit that
I had seen, But I never knew she died, huh,
But it wasn't scary for me. My grandmother would come
and sit on the end of my bed and talk
(06:34):
to me while everyone went to sleep, and I remember
seeing her just like I'm seeing you, Gloria. The only
difference was is that she had like this white light
around her, and you weren't like, why is grandma glowing? No?
I never really questioned. It was little. How old are
you three? For old? I talked to her. I remember
her coming and reading me stories. But you don't think
that was a dream, and you feel like he was real.
(06:58):
Sometimes I dreamed and he's so real that I wake
up and I'm like, I can tell you this was
not a drink. There definitely not a dream. After my
grandmother came in and I had that experience with her,
there were strangers coming in and talking to me, like literally,
I had people in the house that had died, that
was sitting over my bed trying to talk to me,
speak to me, connect with me, and I was petrified.
(07:20):
I remember being in the bedroom at night, yelling and
screaming for my mom to come in and to help
me because I was so afraid and so scared. I
keep thinking that you. I'm like, maybe he was having dreams.
Listen the table and all all opinions, welcome to the table.
What do you tell to the skeptics? I mean, how
can you not believe? There's so many people who don't
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know what to believe. They don't know if heaven or
the afterlife is real. They don't believe in connecting with
the other side. They don't believe in very much. But
you know there's times when one message can change everything. Okay, Matt,
is anybody coming through it right now? So right now
when I'm here, I'm not gonna lie. There's a million
different souls that are here that are trying to connect.
And what's so crazy is like me being here with
(08:02):
all of you, I'm sensing them, and right away your
mom passed. Yes, your mother is here, because right away
I'm sending her and I keep hearing her saying I'm sorry,
I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. She just leaned over
and said to me, Matt, you gotta let her know
how much that I love her, because your mom says
to me that before her passing, she had a lot
of struggles with her moods. She's telling me that her
(08:24):
moods were up and down, up and down, up and down.
And your mom stepping forward and she's taking responsibility for
the way that she died. But she's telling me that
this was both a physical issue that she thought and
also an emotional issue. To understand that because for most
of your life, your mom tells me that she thought
that she was sick or thought that there were things
that were wrong with her. She thought there was something
(08:47):
wrong with her, Like what was she telling me? Why? Oh, absolutely,
she's talking about illness. She thought that she was ill.
She says, I didn't feel well. She's talking about that
there were different parts of her body. Your mom always
thought she was sick here in this world. And the
first thing that she wants to let you know is
that she's sorry because she didn't get to be the
mother that she wanted to be here in this world.
(09:08):
She says, I was so focused on myself, she says,
in taking care of myself and trying to find out
what was wrong with me. She says that it's like
I got pulled away from my family. And your mom
says to me that what she wants you to know
is that you became the woman that she wanted to
be here in this world, she says, And you need
to know that because your mom tells me that every
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day she watches over you from heaven, she says. And
I'm sorry for ever abandoning you because you feel like
your mom just left your life, she says, But I've
been a part of you every single day. Your mom
tells me that you have a stronger connection with her
now that she passed than she was here in this
world because you feel like she's included in everything. You
know that she's watching over you. And your mom says
(09:54):
to me, thank you for keeping my positive memories alive.
My mom went through a lot, and it's true that
I couldn't connect when I was a shyl because she
was not well. She was diagnosed as a schizophrenic and uh,
and the conversations that I had with her, um, we
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couldn't connect. It was very, very hard for me. But
I wanted her to know that I forgave her a
long time ago, and uh, she's been so good to me.
I wanted her to know. Your mom tells me that
when she passed away, they gave you a picture of her,
and you carry that picture no matter where you went.
(10:39):
And still to this day, you have your that picture
with me. You need to bring up this picture because
no matter what my daughter did in life, I was
everywhere that picture went. It's incredible because I always wondered myself.
I wanted my mom sees everything that I've done and
if she's proud of me, always the first thing she
tells me, Wow, she's here. Wow, what a beautiful woman.
(11:03):
Thank you beautiful, You're welcome. And here's what's also facing.
Your mother is also here, and she's running back and
forth between you and between your daughter Emily here. And
I feel like you and your grandmother and you and
your mom had two different relationships hearing this world. And
first of all, I want to let you know that
your mom wants to thank you for the way that
you took care of her before she passed, because your
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mom tells me that you stepped up to the plate
and you did everything for her. And I'm gonna tell
you she's also telling me, my yeah, that she loved
your husband as well. Here in this world. She adored him,
and she wants to thank you for pulling her back
and being part of the family. You know, your mom
wants you to know one thing. She says to me
that you have never disappointed her. She left this world
(11:46):
knowing how much that you and the family had loved her.
But your grandma has a very special message for you.
And your grandmother says to me that the one thing
that she wants you don't know and understand, is she
wants you to show the world to the side that
you showed her. Your grandma tells me that you're a rough,
tough frame, puff on the outside on the outside tattoo.
(12:06):
You're tough and you're strong. But your grandmother tells me
that you love everybody. You love everything. You're there for everybody.
And your grandmother says to me, she says, speak with
your heart. Speak with your heart, she says, because the
world needs to see the side of you that I
saw when I was here in this world. Because your
grandma tells me that you're a little insecure about your writing.
She talks about you writing music and you would sit
on the side of her and you would write songs.
(12:28):
And nobody knows about this, but you would sit with
her and you would sing for her, and you would
have conversations with her, she says, And I want to
let you know she says that those were the best
times because I felt like I was another mother within
your life. But I'm gonna tell you something. Don't get
upset with me. I'm only the messenger. Your grandma says,
you two need to stop fighting. She says, Matt, She goes,
(12:48):
they're both so strong minded and they're so tough with
one another. Your mom says to me that you're very
protective over Emily, the same way that your mom was
protective over you, and you shield her all the time
because you're so afraid of something happening to her, about
her failing, about her not achieving something or doing something.
And your mom says to me, it's okay to let
(13:08):
her go. Sometime she's gonna learn life herself. I'm learning
it and learning it little by little. Your mom says
to me, listen, that's the one mistake that I made
when I was here with you. Your mom tells me
when she was here, no matter what you did, she
had to have her hand and everything. Who is that true?
And I'm gonna tell you something. Your mom says to
me when I'm connecting with her that she was very
nervous about you when you were younger with men I'm
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not talking about dating. I'm talking about she was very
protective over you because she saw things back when she
was younger. Do you know about this, she says, So
I want to let you know. She goes, that I
was protective of you for that reason. She says. It
wasn't that I didn't like your husband or who you
were with at the time. She goes, MY main goal
was protecting you because your mom tells me that she
did not have a good life here in this world
(13:50):
back when she was younger. She says. I saw things.
I experienced things, things that happened within the family, she says,
and that's why I was so protective over you. I
understand that. The message from my mother is like very
telling for me. So I appreciate that mine was spectagonal
and my mother because I prayed so much for your grandma,
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don't fight with me anymore. She was talking to them,
both of us. And I get it from somewhere. Yeah,
from your dad, We're we're really heavy. They good things, mom, exactly.
I got hear that. But recently you had an online
reading with a woman named Anne, and she had a
tragic loss of her six year old son, and what
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did you know about her before this session. Absolutely nothing. Nothing.
Let's take a look at that online reading. I have
a soul that's coming through and tell me they passed
up their head? Who passed up the aneurysm or like
the brain tumor. My son passed away earlier this year.
Your son just told me that you brought him near
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and far to go and get treatment. Do you understand
that I did. We wait a minute, wait a minute,
don't say another word for a second. Oh, you cared
about asked his mother, was making sure that he was
a normal kid, that he had a normal life. You
wanted him to have fun. You were like you handled
all the stress, all the concern, all the medical and
(15:15):
you just wanted your son to be like every other kid.
You understand that. Yes, I asked him for every day
for signs for validation, even though I am logical and
I'm I'm skeptical, and I just want to know it
was really him and then I'm gonna see him again
one day. I can promise you that you will. And
he just said to me, I love you more because
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you just said in your head, I love you, thank you.
So I really wish I could come through the screen
and hug you right now. You were really, really wonderful
and I saw that at the end of the reading,
all you wanted to do was give her a hug.
So you know what, I want to make that possible
(15:59):
for you. And this is an Oh my god, I'm
so excited to see you. We wanted to make that
happen for you. First of all, how are you doing
much better now? A lot better now? I got so
much from that. It was just no, I don't want
to say closure, because it's never gonna be closed, but
(16:21):
just the amount of healing that I got from communicating
with my son, that's just I needed it so bad.
Understanding my god, I love her. Tell us about your son. Well,
he was born with Wilm's tumor, which is pretty rare
in children under the age of ten, so we started
Chimo right away at three months old. He relapsed several
(16:45):
times and finally there was just nothing else that we
could do. He knew that he had cancer. He knew
that he had a tumor. That is all that he knew.
He didn't know what terminal even meant. I just tried
to make it as normal for him as possible. But
his in the hospital was his normal. So I just
tried to make it as enjoyable as you did a
(17:05):
wonderful job, because he said that to you right in
that reading. He didn't Everything that was said in that
reading was a percent accurate, and every single thing he
said things that I've never told anyone. And then at
the end when he said I love you more, my
son said that to me every day. That is so beautiful.
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You know. The reading is meant to validate some of
the things that you already sent and feel, you know,
through your own intuition. Absolutely. And also what's so amazing
is before people even come to me as a medium,
you loved ones already try to reach you. You know,
sometimes we don't pay attention to the signs. Sometimes we
don't know there are signs. Sometimes we question is it
really our loved one? Is it really them? You know?
Why does this keep happening to me? What are some
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of the signs maybe prior or after speaking to Matt
that you feel he sends to you. I started noticing
signs immediately after his passing. It sounds crazy when I
say it does, really sounds crazy. Say, I think it
was the second night after he passed, I was in
bed and I got woken up by this. It was
(18:12):
like someone was playing adele Hello in my ear and
there was no It was completely pitch black, silent in
my house. It startled me awake and it just Hello
out of a dead sleep in the middle of the night.
(18:33):
Then I started having the visitation dreams, which it's hard
to explain, but they're just not like regular believe it
happened when I'm in between sleep and awake and there
it's so real that I feel his warmth when I
wake up. He always just looks very content and happy
(18:53):
and healthy. And does that give you comfort? It's kind
of like double edged sword because you miss him because
I wake up and he's not there. I know, And
what would you tell know? There's that most hope. You
think that you believe things, and then when something like
this happens, you question everything. And even though I was
(19:18):
getting those signs every day and they were coming in
so strong, I still have that doubt because I so
badly need to know that I'm going to see my
child again. Sorry, I'm gonna see your child so incredibly much.
That's the thing that grief does, you know, Grief is
the worst thing that we ever go through as humans,
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because grief is that one thing that makes us question,
you know, is there a heaven? Is there an afterlife?
You can be the most spiritual person, you can be
the person that's the most faith, but when grief comes in,
it takes away all those positive memories, all of those
good things, and it makes us have doubt. And that's
why your son is coming through in all of these
different ways because he wants you to be able to
let go of that, because letting go does not mean
(20:00):
and go of your loved one. Letting gold means letting
go of the pain, the her, the grief, the guilt,
so that you can experience him a different way. I
definitely can say that after my reading, I don't doubt anymore.
I actually have someone joining us that is a scientist.
Dr Mary Neil is an orthopedic surgeon, former Director of
(20:22):
Spine Surgery at USC, and a number one New York
Times best selling author. In Dr Neil drowned on a
kayaking trip. She was underwater for thirty minutes without oxygen.
The experience of dying transformed her from skeptic to believer.
Hell loud, Welcome to the Red Table. We are ready,
(20:46):
so ready for you. Welcome, Please share your story with us.
I was having a wonderful day kayaking and chile in
South America until circumstances are such that I was held
over a waterfall and my boat became hinned in the
rocks and the underwater features under eight ten ft of water.
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I was without oxygen for thirty minutes. When my body
came over the front deck of the boat, I could
feel my bones breaking. I'm an north Pack surgeon, I
know what that's like. I made a very active decision
and asked that God's will be done. And the moment
I asked that, I was immediately overcome with such an
unbelievably physical experience of being held and comforted and absolutely
(21:34):
surrounded by this blanket of pure, unconditional love. I never
had panic, I never had fear. I never had any
of those You were there, you were aware. Oh yeah,
I gotta still feel the plastic of my boat. I
could feel the pressure of the water, and at a
certain point my body sort of was sucked out of
the boat. And when that happened, my spirit kind of
peeled away from my body and I was immediately greeted
(21:58):
by a group of I don't know what people, spirits, strings,
whatever you want to call them, and they took me
down this pathway towards this great down structure that I
knew was kind of the point of no return. And
it was the most beautiful experience because it spoke beauty
to me. And what speaks beauty to me is color
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and flowers and the aromas, and that's what I saw.
I felt so known and so loved. I mean, I
had a great life, I had a husband, for little kids.
I loved my life. But I was home and I
really had no intention of coming back. Eventually got to
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the end of this pathway, and after what felt like
many hours of this incredible experience of understanding not the
divine nature of the universe, but the divine order, and
what I discovered are a couple of things, many things,
one of which is a God's love is present. There
is no room for destructive emotion. There's no bitterness, anger, shame.
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We'll remorse all those things. It's not a matter of forgiveness,
it's just it just doesn't exist. I was eventually told
that it wasn't my time, that I had more work
to do on earth, and that I had to go back,
and so I was given basically a laundry list of
things yet to be done. Every single thing on the
(23:30):
list has been something that would be challenging and push
me definitely beyond my my comfort zone, not the least
of which is knowing that I was expected to share
my experiences with other people. And one of the most
challenging things certain land the list had to do with
the coming and unexpected death of my oldest son, who
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at the time was nine, and I was given a
pretty strong idea when that would be that he would pass. Yeah,
you were told in your journey that your son was
going to pass and you woke up with that exact memory.
That's unbelievable and difficult and extremely difficult. How long did
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he take? He was nine? Nine years? Wow? Did you
share that with anyone in those nine years? On my
son's eighteenth birthday, I did tell him everything, because there
were some things that happened that made me think that
the plan for his life had changed. Later, probably six
months later, it was like I was picked up out
(24:36):
of bed and put on the ground and God said, Okay,
you know what you're gonna do what I asked, And
one of the expectations had been that I would start
writing as a way to share, and I said okay,
and I, over the course of five or six days,
wrote the manuscript to my first book. And I was
so elated. I mean I felt so and so joyful.
(25:02):
So I grabbed my youngest son and we drove into
town to get ice cream and celebrate because I was
feeling so good. And that's when I called my oldest
son to share this great news. And that's when I
was told that he had been hit by car and killed.
Oh gosh, how did you deal with that? Mary? I
(25:24):
was devastated. I mean, there's no way around it. I
love that boy. He and I were very close, and
I will forever miss his physical precedence. Here. That said,
I will honestly say that even on my most sad day,
I experienced absolute gratitude and intense joy. I wish I
(25:46):
had that. When I came back from Chile. I spent
quite a long time in the hospital, multiple operations, that
kind of thing, and then many many months have rehab.
And I spent those pans of rehab trying to come
up with some other explanation from my experiences other than
it being spiritual. And at the end of that had
(26:09):
to realize that, no, this is the real deal. I've
done the research, I've done the reading, I've talked to people,
I've done whatever it takes to be able to make
the conclusion that, you know what, I know, there's life
after death, and therefore when I suffer a loss, setback,
(26:32):
a challenge, whatever, well I can face that with gratitude
because I know that we are here for a reason
and there really is a plan for each one of
us and the world that's one of hope. Let go
and let go whatever your got is the thing to
do to let go well, because it's all a control thing.
(26:56):
Let me ask you listening to her, because we have
two people here who are two different stages of the grief.
I mean, your son just recently passed away. I can't
imagine being on this show at your point. You know,
if I had not spoken to him, I would not
be able to be sitting here because I'm literally just
now able to get out of bed like a function normally.
(27:18):
I'm only forty, like, I have so much of my
life that I have to live without him. And I
asked him every single day, I say, Jackson, what am
I supposed to learn from this. What path am I
supposed to take? That's why I'm here looking at her
and how strong she is. You know, she's going through
a similar situation that you've gone through, and you're gonna
be just as strong, and you're gonna you're gonna believe
(27:40):
that this is living proof right here. Color will come
back to your world. I think she will be able
to help, and that's why I'm here. I want, if anything,
to give hope to other broken hearted parents that are
just devastated like I am, and to know that they're there.
You know, they're they're the signs. Pay attention to what's
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going on around you, and they'll give you science. He
brought me here. I know that he did. There's a
reason that I'm here. He's just like, listen, listen for it.
And when our loved ones passed, they're just out of sight.
I hope that this gives everyone a little bit of hope,
since we are experiencing some pretty dark days right now. Collectively,
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let's just love each other and try to be the
best people that we can for everyone. All Right, thank
you so much, amazing, thank you, thank you for having
me on a lot of people might think, Okay, is
my loved one seeing everything I'm doing? The answer is absolutely.
(28:43):
They can see every single thing that you do, everything
that even your search history everything. So I thought we
had a private life, So there's no secret line. There's
no secret life when it comes to your loved ones.
Thanks for listening. To join the red Table Talk family
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