June 16, 2025 • 39 mins
Standing in nobody’s shadows, going according to their own algorithms. Panamanian Afro-House en Español Pioneer Nino Augustine. Rapidito ft. Agent DMZ.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Make God has something so honest.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
If I had to make a blanket statement about Panamanian's
mehant is that we're stubborn and before any of you
pick up your pitch forks, I think that's a good thing,
knowing not that my own nations.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
It keeps us raw fresh.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Running in the opposite direction which can come off as crazy,
and we are crazily talented. Someone Talentedario. We're too talented
to be put into a box. And in my opinions,
the industry doesn't understand us or know what to do
with us, and the nchance it gets it wants it
to play the game come all using.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Which is why I was typed to be able.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
To chop it up with Nins, the person Nani Nino
Augustini more than NAIs while the industry is pushing everybody
to do that same old regat on Formula, Nino said, Nah,
I'm good and he's paving his own.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
Name with AFA House and it finan.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
To do.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Sorry.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Spanish vocals, African rhythms, Caribbean energy and music. Casa Oliver,
tell me the emple this episode a patela hen this
is that so re formula alma so I think I
phone Almanara m Levada, that's get into it Aki, don't callada.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
And that's a don't call lost colosking.
Speaker 5 (01:56):
You know I seen of your.
Speaker 6 (01:57):
Persona catch going down, so cheesy, happy to see me Amia, Yes,
got Synna got Yes.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
They're a tarking and Grammy's weak recently when I take it,
How are.
Speaker 7 (02:18):
You feeling machine akitakam projector so the promotion project to
you pros toy Yeah, great champion names see easy championing
the names project.
Speaker 5 (02:36):
He's the more promotion that how the feeling?
Speaker 7 (02:41):
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afroball muslin sis super ssa. So motion the mentor and
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you'll throw it on you so so you know me.
Speaker 5 (03:09):
Much like look my throw say you know the bang
on the woman.
Speaker 4 (03:16):
They have the moves and the right after like one
day facing you know.
Speaker 5 (03:23):
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Speaker 8 (03:28):
You like to nurture everything like one of l I
see some mentor.
Speaker 7 (03:35):
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you know, I said, I said, who know that I
that I that my deficile did then then like nut
come on don the sacco wunna he put us put
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so it to more creatokay okay alumulo freco. Yeah so
lokay mu Chicago algorecolte.
Speaker 5 (04:14):
Yeah, it's in.
Speaker 4 (04:15):
You can no no get pensata masagon it's coming in.
Speaker 9 (04:20):
Kind I can geta have no like with that livery.
Speaker 8 (04:24):
You know see if any dam in the.
Speaker 7 (04:28):
Flexidia dumpia working nothing, go now I'll get the nod
okay to.
Speaker 8 (04:35):
Person so so miketa or I said loko.
Speaker 4 (04:40):
Mala I want yeah, no, I won't call your the
the osama come home doing no yay so like ya
to process. So you come on through, come on to
manta awata because I want you. I'm want your pot
friend started right the coma conata. That's a process like
(05:00):
and also so look I thought I said song that
I'm going on.
Speaker 7 (05:07):
See one of your your collections. We need los so
the mosica be like like like yeah, so the musica.
There's a forma p literal little pongo e nam.
Speaker 5 (05:25):
Mocho.
Speaker 7 (05:25):
So so it's cosake make no.
Speaker 8 (05:34):
Co the owner at so ya.
Speaker 7 (05:38):
Come come lellendo comsica or oriendo mentale.
Speaker 5 (05:45):
Manango majorees like they they agreed, right, it's like it's
see the room.
Speaker 4 (06:01):
If you don't understand like the basics of like you
know what it is a composition.
Speaker 5 (06:06):
How are you gonna compose?
Speaker 8 (06:08):
Yeah, you've been okay saying on course.
Speaker 7 (06:12):
Yo KOs up indiendo he he he KOs mejorando he
he had he singlehandos. I mean I said, give me
more like a oof I I challenge myself, you know,
and and and and course you see grando nobody.
Speaker 5 (06:32):
I love la, I love that's it's see the way.
Speaker 8 (06:39):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (06:39):
And then there I said single.
Speaker 8 (06:41):
On you know you know, uh, I'm moda.
Speaker 7 (06:48):
It's a throne processing sick he up with in diendo
as my journey has been, you know.
Speaker 8 (06:54):
Like developing mm.
Speaker 7 (06:57):
But all y'all men men that yeah, of course and
lawk importante, the k the business, the osho he come
from and of course he care that epsi independent importante
(07:19):
he cannot you know. And for coming my hand and
and dies a prend posis lokay locally real young.
Speaker 5 (07:28):
Needs no one's because I mean I don't know what
you know.
Speaker 8 (07:38):
He can be a tantot can be a tanto so.
Speaker 7 (07:45):
Same pay ye a course so but yeah so a
young needs like prind the lock protest, see hated to yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
So and so on. As you already know how it be.
I don't want to pause.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
But you're here with more, you know, Augustine, right after
these messages take don't.
Speaker 5 (08:15):
Move, its a coma finish.
Speaker 8 (08:23):
You know, your physical empoet and poet.
Speaker 9 (08:28):
There's the thing.
Speaker 7 (08:29):
The pente is like that you are, you know, my
flu throw your your processor. The sake is the most different.
You know, well be loka is mainstream, your toy literal
so you know recto and lokay and lokay and okay
(08:51):
and okay okay, locate meta carrera ceo ma trauma endo process.
So the progress or author markinas in mensi. You have
to look at mikada ata you don't put me free
man and propos.
Speaker 4 (09:16):
It's true and co joy whats and thup and you're like,
what's my aspect of the namba los artists, Like what's
what's working?
Speaker 1 (09:31):
You know?
Speaker 8 (09:32):
But the demitoria look.
Speaker 7 (09:38):
Love for me, look at look at that, look at
the funds. The pens finalelda too into siantes cares or
the inn can properta real Henuina no Sando New pal.
Speaker 8 (09:57):
Joe so King so musica.
Speaker 7 (10:01):
It's so enjoy that beings Okay, it's lokay, it's a
it's an advantage so.
Speaker 8 (10:09):
So so it can then and a music you.
Speaker 4 (10:15):
Can like in mos come the land musica right loc
process Okay, see saying as as lots of ports, what
are they also they Okay, okay, come on. One of
the best opportunities that you feel like the industry is
providing right now.
Speaker 5 (10:34):
For artists to like be their best sells. Like what's
working that they're offering? Right that can if a you
(10:59):
too pronto you know.
Speaker 7 (11:03):
I di rectamented links from Algo Town Instantano.
Speaker 8 (11:15):
Little like or la technolog you know how fast like
sad So move on.
Speaker 7 (11:24):
My first depends okay, and so that the platonia de
Algo yah.
Speaker 8 (11:33):
Or music yea pens and amazing to me, you know,
you know, you know.
Speaker 4 (11:43):
As soon as okay, not.
Speaker 7 (11:48):
Like yeah, no, I mean to say, was like you
know my fruit po masum there is perfect assum the
(12:12):
ya those Kobe paste, Kobe paste, Kobe paste.
Speaker 5 (12:29):
Yours.
Speaker 8 (12:30):
Okay, okay, we should start championing again. You champions, Yeah,
like I said.
Speaker 5 (12:39):
No, but it's true, that's the first time.
Speaker 4 (12:42):
And there you know, I'm an aera from okay you
know about the group and that's that's pretty much.
Speaker 5 (12:49):
The mold of like our culture right one way, and
that's how we like to format things.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
And it's like, I think it's cool that in hip hop,
like I'm Cardi and Glorrella, you Nikki, you know, they're
so different and they're all.
Speaker 5 (13:04):
Celebrated at the same time, right another.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
A lot of like.
Speaker 7 (13:10):
Boys You're a thing of Temple, lad is getting Colo.
Speaker 5 (13:31):
Being Yoko Timple and Save you know, yeah, yes, I'm.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
Okay okay then, but that said, and my last question
really like what does it mean to chift culture?
Speaker 3 (13:54):
Like you you know, every single artist was dope and
and can that's on the number of streams you have
on its growing. I see yeah, you are you are,
I see you ye.
Speaker 7 (14:08):
So, And I wanna and I really wanna get better,
Like that's the thing, Like I wanna get better, I
wanna learn more, and I wanna.
Speaker 8 (14:15):
Keep creating music like Dope soap you know.
Speaker 7 (14:18):
So I'm gonna keep getting better and hopefully we're gonna
keep growing you buy you yes, yeah?
Speaker 5 (14:24):
What does it mean to shift culture? Like you know,
every artist.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
Nothing I can said mainstream, It doesn't matter if it's
mainstream or underground. Like I feel like, you know, the space,
it's big, it is, but it's also not like we're
all in the same room, right, so I feel like,
you know, everybody sees each other.
Speaker 5 (14:42):
Like you know, you have collaborated with.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
Some really great artists as well, and they they really
recognize real you know, and in which case you're you're
leaving your Martha Marco with Champion then but then you
know you're artistry.
Speaker 5 (14:57):
What does that mean for you to like leave that mark.
Speaker 8 (15:02):
Honestly? Like Joe John Zoomer and yeah, okay, comt do that?
Speaker 7 (15:12):
I said, Okay, the full Yeah, okay joan full.
Speaker 8 (15:29):
Lot of chances that the I and and the top simply.
Speaker 5 (15:39):
So SI.
Speaker 7 (15:47):
You know, ky like and you know, like, okay, I
get that he hallow you hallow tongue local poke So
so como no I master representation?
Speaker 1 (16:09):
Oh my god?
Speaker 2 (16:10):
You know I gu saying it's saying the things behind
you already know how I feel. I don't want to pause.
We'll be right back with morning, Augustine. After these messages
take I don't move, I said, local.
Speaker 8 (16:25):
Local, local, peral Joe. I made peace with that.
Speaker 7 (16:29):
Well you know what I said, yeah, periment said pack
last massas.
Speaker 5 (16:38):
Ok.
Speaker 7 (16:39):
Sorry, A lot of massas consume marking, consume big machines.
So com mart in the Metoka pensa forma. He said, okay, yo, yeah,
I just I'm just I made peace with being ahead
and gem like literally, I'm like, I treat my career
(16:59):
as a hitting jam.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
I love that.
Speaker 8 (17:01):
Yeah, so there's like ill do you know, oh wold
e E and Domini.
Speaker 7 (17:12):
You know, we went to Okay, I've been consistent. So
I'm a hitting Jim and and I'm made peace with that,
you see. I mean, but I'm in peace with being
this vinyl that is like gold and it's worth a
lot of money.
Speaker 8 (17:29):
Like that's how I feel about my career is like
this is this is a hitting Jim.
Speaker 9 (17:34):
I thought, yeah, yes, yes, ya, thank you.
Speaker 10 (17:45):
So much for being here.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
Thank you experience. So, first of all, he's one of
the most time unto people I've had the pleasure of
knowing throughout the years in this crazy industry. To be
quite honest, here we interviewed twice to be able to
capture something epic by Boil the first time. They're in
the Latin Grammys in twenty twenty two and has again
(18:16):
the recently. I was skeptical about going there for my analysis,
but I'm gonna take it there. Let's talk about racism
in the Latin music industry and the weird shit that
be going on really quick, because honestly, it's just ridiculous. Okay,
So in the industry, there are these phenomenons that exist
for people of color that skate past the line of
tokenization in the straight colo dero. No, for people that
(18:39):
are wondering, aren't Are there any industry wide type ddty
scenarios in this industry. No, but that doesn't mean there
aren't predators. Racker Scratch side note, Datty was looking to
do business in Latin music during the time of the
rollout if his last album, The Love Album. I actually
met him, interviewed him, hugged him. I've been in shocked
(19:00):
since the allegations drop from Cassie, but that's a story
for another day. My point is there are many things
I had to learn about the creative process, cloud power,
who's in power? Who keeps power, who stays in power
and the rese ofment orders throughout the years and what
talent actually means. Talent in this industry means to be
(19:21):
able to carry artistically and see projects of completion. In
my opinions, some of the most talented indie artists are
the ones putting out music in a consistent basis because
much of the development process they take on. Talent in
this industry means being involved in your creative process, but
also keeping up what other brilliant minds were in the
(19:41):
room and me open young because it's one thing to
be brilliant yourself, but when you're in a room with
other brilliant people, you really gotta remind people while you're there. Okay,
And where I'm going is I've noticed the Latin music
industry on the business side. It's filled with a lot
of women, which I love to see as a plus.
I would, but women can and regularly do a whole patriarchy.
(20:05):
Some I don't support all women. Some of these bitches
are dumb.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
I say that all the time, but it's the truth.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
But in the way because what's.
Speaker 10 (20:13):
Wrong with them and most of them being white?
Speaker 1 (20:15):
Forget about it.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
I meinly, you didn't stay with me. The truth is,
in this industry, people see talent coming from a black
person and think, how can I apply that to somebody else?
If you think I'm I am the way the truth is.
I mean, look at everything going on with these ice raids.
A ton of people in these industries are frozen, don't
know what to say, even if they were given talking points.
Speaker 9 (20:39):
Why.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
Because of the way racism works in this industry is systemic.
Everything they see with a racist problem, they're like, oh,
it's this is a problem to resolve. It's something quick,
it's something nagging, it's not something that's ongoing. Like, they
don't see it that way, and it keeps a lot
of people in power ignorant. So mean it back And
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why the hell that I mentioned because if y'all knew
the weird fucking dynamics that I experience coming out of
that scenario, after the press thing, when the allegations came out,
and the way people were eager to say people are
always trying to hold him down aka dedicated to not
seeing the abuse for what because it was too early.
I'm telling you, some women keep up patriarchy, whether it's
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you know, when other people express concern, whether it's when
an artist uplifts their voice regarding their own talent, whether
it's and artists advocating for themselves for funds. Sometimes we're
not worth the investment, but you can take from us
in a sign to other people. If I start talking,
everybody's about ity be dizzy now, But talented acts like Nino.
(21:44):
I'm going there because the truth is people see greatness,
act like they don't see greatness, and play with the
time of black I means I'm always that's what not
ye happened from me? I can't wait to hear what
you have to say right now. INDJ advocate the brilliant
(22:10):
mind behind Fedil to the people. Okay, when I know
you got a lot of hot takes, my dear, so
let's get right into it first and foremost, who are
you listening to right now?
Speaker 10 (22:27):
And who should people be paying more attention to?
Speaker 11 (22:29):
Personally? I'm really listening. I love him. I love Dela
Rose like I fuck with her like I'm like yes, bitch, yes,
Like I love the lyricism of hers like she's actually
like I feel like in Regatton right now, there's a
lack of lyricism and I appreciate her lyricism honestly, and
(22:49):
I like my day because and I like I can
play that at the club.
Speaker 10 (22:54):
So love it, love it. I love that last part
that you said, I can actually play that at the clubs.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
Because look, okay, let's go there, because there's a lot
of things that come out.
Speaker 10 (23:04):
It's amazing.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
But also boy said joke on, y'all know, I'm a
baby DJ, so I better. I want to one and
I open a lot for the parties that I have. No,
not for nothing, I'm doing a lot of because there's
a lot of great music. But no said and move,
so so can you talk to me a little bit
about that because I know you got your own thoughts.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
On jo.
Speaker 11 (23:31):
Like I'm like, I get it, like, but I want
to move my body like that's why I try to
like mix like old school, like I love two thousands.
Two thousands is great and moves, and then I mix
it with aura because like it gives you like that
range of everything. But yeah, I don't know, I don't
know what's going on, Like I want to move, I
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don't know, do not get like I want to sweat,
like I want to sweat if I'm gonna go to
the club. I want to sweat. I don't want to
just sit.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
There and like yeah and be sad, like I'm right
there with you exactly. It's this joy body, this this
I don't have any words for. I'm going to keep
it cute, but moving forward, I'm dying to know. You know,
you're an amazing and for what you are, creative avoc
you are the culture got to some d What is
(24:23):
your heart take on Ragaeton right now? How do you
feel about what's going on Regaton right now? Who has
your attention? And good and bad ways?
Speaker 10 (24:30):
What's going on.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
For me?
Speaker 11 (24:37):
I just feel like I don't see anybody that looks
like me, and it's kind of turning into like novela
type shit, like where you just see like a certain
type and then like you think, oh, that's all that
there is in that country, and then you realize when
you grow older, it's like, no, there's like actually black
Colombians and there's actually black Mexicans that you know exists,
(25:00):
and it's like it kind of like eraces a lot
of us and a lot of what we're doing and
a lot of the history as well, because you know,
as time goes by like people don't care about you know,
what happened, you know, thirty forty years ago. Unfortunately, that's
why we're going through what we're going on right now.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
Absolutely absolutely, and let me think, let me be specific.
There are a lot of phenoms going on right now.
Did you happen to watch the cattlege documentary.
Speaker 11 (25:29):
I did not because I have issues with like her
whole owning the w Chota and like now she's doing
like tropical and I've like seen peeps of shit that
people are talking about and I'm like it is a
little weird, but I don't know, like people are saying
that she copied bat Bony, that she's not even from
(25:53):
the tropics like Acidomo Chakowsa. But also you know, she
also has a team behind her, and she has people
behind her that are telling her things. I don't know,
like if it's really her really like being like yeah,
I want to do I want to be like this
or is it her team because they see the formula
and they're sticking to the formula.
Speaker 10 (26:15):
So you touch on a number of things.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
I would say this what a lot of people don't
know is that some not everybody, people of her team
and by Bunny Team actually cross over, but.
Speaker 11 (26:26):
I saw That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 10 (26:28):
Yeah, So it's like a lot of people don't know that.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
So I kind of just be sitting here like but
because it's like, oh, she's copying by Bunny, I'm like,
but it's like yeah, so I'm like, what if that's
just trickling over? Yeah, in which case, you know, So
I just want to put that out there for context
for people listening. The other part too, it is I
actually about the documentary actually saw it because I was like, okay,
(26:53):
I can't critique what I don't know. I saw it
and I was like, I'll be honest, like I wanted
more because it's like, at the end of the day,
she's the biggest rage in the industry.
Speaker 10 (27:05):
No one can argue this. It's a fact, you know.
Speaker 11 (27:10):
And so I'm like, all right, what was her journey?
Speaker 2 (27:11):
Like I wanted a little bit more because I just
kind of felt like I ended it and I was like,
I still don't know who she is. Like she used
some footage from when she was younger, and I was like, okay,
here we go, Oni mo animal, and then it was
cute like there were some videos of like her performing
when she was little. It was really cute, but I'm
(27:34):
like I wanted more, you know what I mean. There
was like a hint and I was I I as
a woman, was especially looking forward to this because she
was talking about some abuse and this had me like
on the line, like people do need a trauma dump
for public consumption. At the same time, it's like I
kind of wish I didn't need specifics of her trauma,
but I kind of wish I had more information regarding
(27:58):
what were the type of dynamic that exists that are harmful,
so other women know, yeah, that's harmful, you know what
I mean? Because I like you know this too as
a woman in the industry, when people don't talk about
yeah that happens, you don't know to look out for them.
Speaker 11 (28:13):
Yeah, until it happens.
Speaker 10 (28:16):
I'm so tired of being surprised, you feel me. It's like, okay, okay,
that's some weird ship, you.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
Know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
So I kind of felt that, but past that, you
know again another support and she's the biggest artist.
Speaker 11 (28:28):
She's doing her thing. She she's very good at marketing,
like she has like I can't and you can't deny that,
Like the business side is on points right.
Speaker 10 (28:41):
Which I will never argue with the brico. Ever, I
just also want to know what you think because.
Speaker 11 (28:47):
From okay that it is like I'm being being at
the you know, the they're like a different type of
life that she's not even about that life, you know
what I'm saying, Like she not about that life.
Speaker 10 (29:03):
It's been in your opinion, has beach hold? I've been rebranded.
Speaker 11 (29:06):
It's been rebranded. No, it's been rebranded. It's like it
doesn't have the same meaning yeah as it did before.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
What do you think it's important now for people to
understand that context now that it's rebranded, or it's just
that things are so different now. Okay, it doesn't make
a difference, like what I know, that's a hard question.
Speaker 11 (29:26):
But my hot take on that, I think at the
end of the day, I guess it doesn't really matter.
It's rebranded. Girls have not taken that as something empowering,
So I guess the flip side of that is that
that happened. But I can see why, you know, Briquas
are like.
Speaker 10 (29:46):
But I always be like, jus gave it to her,
I know, And that's another thing.
Speaker 11 (29:51):
That's another thing that's another thing that I have issues
with Ebriqua men be giving mad props to like fucking
all these foreign shits and there's like people right there
and their sucking backyards. Yes, o keys, Gormala, Ninfa gomore,
baby Pa like La me Ma, like cloud, like baby Wine.
(30:13):
I love I love that song. Look baby Wine, I'm
gonna look that up. Knock on DJ d J next song.
I like, it's like a tropical song, a summer tropical song.
Speaker 10 (30:27):
And so now the I mean if it's with d
J Nelson did and d JEN Nelson.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
So I know that's a yeah, look that up, Yeah,
look that up. Okay, So tambang, I'm dying to know.
In pastor, Mike, we spoke a lot to a recent incident,
and I just want to give you space to coming
on anything else that's going on in the world.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (30:51):
What do you want people to know in this moment,
because I mean, like it's it's kind of us like
if you you mentioned it briefly in regards to everybody
doesn't need to do the same things.
Speaker 10 (31:03):
I would love for you to experid my line.
Speaker 11 (31:05):
In my opinion, everybody has a role. Like I'm not
an activist I don't call myself an activist, but I
am an advocate. I will advocate the shit out of anything,
like if I believe in it and I have a heart,
like that's who I am because that's what I do.
Like in my job, I'm an advocate. I'm a social worker,
so and I've been doing this for twenty years. So
for me, it comes easy and I love doing it. Yeah,
(31:28):
I love doing it. So the social work and the
DJing kind of goes hands in hand with me with
this and for me, people we don't need. Everybody doesn't
need to be on the streets. Yes we do need protests.
Protests do are needed. I'm not saying that that's not important.
But there's some people that can protest. There are people
(31:50):
who are in fear that they're going to be deported.
There are people that have medical issues. There are people,
you know, for other reasons that may feel guilty because
they can't go out in protest. Like so I feel
guilty because I can't. You know, I have a life,
like I have kids, and I have to do other
things and you know, take people to school and college
and all this stuff, and sometimes you know, but I
(32:12):
try in my way, like I'm really good at the
centering information, creating videos like I'm good at that, Like
I'm good at talking to people one on one and
you know, telling them. I'm good at using my experiences
and what I've been through, like emotionally to tell people,
(32:33):
you know, this is what's going on. So you know,
we all have our roles like people. We need storytellers.
We need people to keep history. That's very important right now.
We need people to document history because they're taken away
our history, like slowly. We need people to to just
be present. I feel like people need to be present.
I think a lot of us are are indiferente saloiendo
(32:59):
yo te gonsalam being you know, we gotta work, we
got to eat. They don't want to pay us to work.
They want to take away our jobs now like you
know with AI and all this stuff, you know, robots.
So it's really there's really a war against like people
don't want to talk about it like that, but it's
(33:20):
really a war, and we have to be very smart
about it. Not we have to have people on the
inside politically as well, like do the same shit they're doing.
Like we need to have our people in the inside.
We need to have our people create, like our own
whatever fucking twenty twenty five project twenty twenty five. We
need our own people to do that, like we need
(33:42):
our own lobbyists. Like I feel like we we focus
on one thing, but there is several things that we
could all be doing because we have people who are
good politicians. We have people you know that could probably
get into politics, who are younger and could probably you know. Like,
I just feel like we all have a duty because
right now everybody is in danger. I don't care who
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you are. You can be white, black, small, big, blind, beautiful,
a maga. You can be even a fucking maga. You're
in trouble. Like that's the thing about right now, Like
it doesn't matter who you are. You can be poor,
you can be rich. Well maybe not the rich people.
Speaker 1 (34:25):
I don't know.
Speaker 11 (34:26):
I don't know, but you feel me like we are
all under attack, and I feel like people are not
realizing that, and people are I don't know if they're
scared or they're just like, oh, nothing is going to happen,
because they're like, oh, nothing has happened so far. It'll
just die out and we'll just continue living our lives.
(34:49):
But what's happening in LA is very scary. What's happening
just people being kidnapped, Like I work with what I
documented youth, and they're all scared. And I don't even
like I feel so bad, Like I feel so fucking
guilty sometimes and it's not even my fault because like
(35:11):
I didn't even like I'm like, I didn't even vote
for the dude number one. I don't give a fuck
about that dude. But I just feel so guilty just
because I'm an American and they're going through this, and
like I really I feel powerless in a way. But
we're not powerless. That's what they want us to think.
We're not powerless. We just got to like keep pushing
and keep living and keep being ourselves and not being quiet.
Speaker 10 (35:34):
I love every single word of this. You are so brilliant.
I honestly can't thank you enough, and mehand if you
had it. I need you to listen to all of
this twice three times. Listen to happily though, like three,
four or five times, study.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
It because honestly, this is a masterclass in what we
should be doing, you know, and you ended it on
such a beautiful note, like at the end of the day. Yes,
we are powerful in numbers to gather in action in organization.
So me hinted, we can't be discouraged or something's heartbreaking
going on. Absolutely guess what. That kind of has been
(36:12):
going on forever. It's just that it's been being more documented.
Speaker 10 (36:18):
Now more than ever.
Speaker 2 (36:18):
And of course I will not and the right off
the escalation by this administration and so we're not. My
point in being is that this has always been an issue.
It's an issue for everybody, you know, and so it's
a matter of like m Lucas and it's just literally
bravo to everything you just said, Monique, like sorry agent,
like it's amazing and so get that ego. But happily though,
(36:43):
to wrap up here, I'm dying to know, you know,
Like again, I keep bringing it up because it's some
part in me hint that I'm here with an afrobriqua like.
Speaker 10 (36:55):
In my community like.
Speaker 2 (36:56):
And I O, I'm so happy right now, and so
I'm dying to hear what if you can dream about
and and manifests better said, what Regaton might look like
in the future, what is that for you?
Speaker 10 (37:09):
Like, what is the dream for you? In regards to hagetone,
how it sounds like, what it looks like? You know
what it feels like?
Speaker 2 (37:17):
Because considering everything going on right now for Hagaton and
for culture.
Speaker 11 (37:23):
Yeah, I want Ragathon to be more queer, more queer.
I feel like that is where the direction it should go.
I feel like we need to expand our minds and
be and think about futuristic what does that mean? Like
what does like NaIO Garib look like? What does nail
(37:44):
like Reggaeton look like? What does that look like in
the future, Like what does that beyond like the same
beats that we always hear, like, how can we like?
And people are doing that like you know, like Djwadi,
like Bandy, like these people are really like trying to
push the envelope with that, and I appreciate that because
(38:05):
like as someone you know, like you too, you did
your you know your rock So yeah, I want to
see more that. I want to see more like yeah,
yes that's what yea and more maqueer.
Speaker 10 (38:22):
Well then gonna going up. It'll be queer and rockets fuck.
So yes, I got you for me.
Speaker 2 (38:30):
Handed Listening Agent is actually Grace one of my music
videos that I'm excited to do it very soon, so
all shut is coming out, coming out for your listening.
Speaker 10 (38:39):
It's been like two three years.
Speaker 11 (38:41):
I don't even look like this anymore.
Speaker 2 (38:42):
I look totally different, So that'll tell you some me
handed that's all talking up for Agent d MZ, follow
Agen DMZ and to the people.
Speaker 10 (38:54):
So you got to.
Speaker 2 (38:59):
Mean some.
Speaker 1 (39:00):
It's been an amazing episode, has it not? Well? All
of it?
Speaker 2 (39:04):
It's not possible without my team, So it's time with
La Flores Like the Glagata is Anahar Media production executive
produced by Shiks and Media edited by Selaan sevast Duro,
produced by.
Speaker 1 (39:19):
Grace Gonzalez Mia Mode.
Speaker 2 (39:22):
Shout out to my amazing production assistant Naomi Sado and
Kayla Ecklisson. Las Amo music by Hobby Vibes Lavi Bra
shot directly from Clevelander and South Miami Beach. Your I'm
your host, Lagata, See you next time here and like
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Make God has something so honest.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
If I had to make a blanket statement about Panamanian's
mehant is that we're stubborn and before any of you
pick up your pitch forks, I think that's a good thing,
knowing not that my own nations.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
It keeps us raw fresh.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Running in the opposite direction which can come off as crazy,
and we are crazily talented. Someone Talentedario. We're too talented
to be put into a box. And in my opinions,
the industry doesn't understand us or know what to do
with us, and the nchance it gets it wants it
to play the game come all using.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Which is why I was typed to be able.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
To chop it up with Nins, the person Nani Nino
Augustini more than NAIs while the industry is pushing everybody
to do that same old regat on Formula, Nino said, Nah,
I'm good and he's paving his own.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
Name with AFA House and it finan.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
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Sorry.
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tell me the emple this episode a patela hen this
is that so re formula alma so I think I
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Speaker 4 (01:50):
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Speaker 5 (01:56):
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Speaker 6 (01:57):
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Speaker 4 (02:11):
They're a tarking and Grammy's weak recently when I take it,
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Speaker 7 (02:18):
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you pros toy Yeah, great champion names see easy championing
the names project.
Speaker 5 (02:36):
He's the more promotion that how the feeling?
Speaker 7 (02:41):
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you'll throw it on you so so you know me.
Speaker 5 (03:09):
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on the woman.
Speaker 4 (03:16):
They have the moves and the right after like one
day facing you know.
Speaker 5 (03:23):
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Speaker 8 (03:28):
You like to nurture everything like one of l I
see some mentor.
Speaker 7 (03:35):
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you know, I said, I said, who know that I
that I that my deficile did then then like nut
come on don the sacco wunna he put us put
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it over a gimpot no dark and latia limiteds mm
so it to more creatokay okay alumulo freco. Yeah so
lokay mu Chicago algorecolte.
Speaker 5 (04:14):
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Speaker 4 (04:15):
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Speaker 9 (04:20):
Kind I can geta have no like with that livery.
Speaker 8 (04:24):
You know see if any dam in the.
Speaker 7 (04:28):
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okay to.
Speaker 8 (04:35):
Person so so miketa or I said loko.
Speaker 4 (04:40):
Mala I want yeah, no, I won't call your the
the osama come home doing no yay so like ya
to process. So you come on through, come on to
manta awata because I want you. I'm want your pot
friend started right the coma conata. That's a process like
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and also so look I thought I said song that
I'm going on.
Speaker 7 (05:07):
See one of your your collections. We need los so
the mosica be like like like yeah, so the musica.
There's a forma p literal little pongo e nam.
Speaker 5 (05:25):
Mocho.
Speaker 7 (05:25):
So so it's cosake make no.
Speaker 8 (05:34):
Co the owner at so ya.
Speaker 7 (05:38):
Come come lellendo comsica or oriendo mentale.
Speaker 5 (05:45):
Manango majorees like they they agreed, right, it's like it's
see the room.
Speaker 4 (06:01):
If you don't understand like the basics of like you
know what it is a composition.
Speaker 5 (06:06):
How are you gonna compose?
Speaker 8 (06:08):
Yeah, you've been okay saying on course.
Speaker 7 (06:12):
Yo KOs up indiendo he he he KOs mejorando he
he had he singlehandos. I mean I said, give me
more like a oof I I challenge myself, you know,
and and and and course you see grando nobody.
Speaker 5 (06:32):
I love la, I love that's it's see the way.
Speaker 8 (06:39):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (06:39):
And then there I said single.
Speaker 8 (06:41):
On you know you know, uh, I'm moda.
Speaker 7 (06:48):
It's a throne processing sick he up with in diendo
as my journey has been, you know.
Speaker 8 (06:54):
Like developing mm.
Speaker 7 (06:57):
But all y'all men men that yeah, of course and
lawk importante, the k the business, the osho he come
from and of course he care that epsi independent importante
(07:19):
he cannot you know. And for coming my hand and
and dies a prend posis lokay locally real young.
Speaker 5 (07:28):
Needs no one's because I mean I don't know what
you know.
Speaker 8 (07:38):
He can be a tantot can be a tanto so.
Speaker 7 (07:45):
Same pay ye a course so but yeah so a
young needs like prind the lock protest, see hated to yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
So and so on. As you already know how it be.
I don't want to pause.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
But you're here with more, you know, Augustine, right after
these messages take don't.
Speaker 5 (08:15):
Move, its a coma finish.
Speaker 8 (08:23):
You know, your physical empoet and poet.
Speaker 9 (08:28):
There's the thing.
Speaker 7 (08:29):
The pente is like that you are, you know, my
flu throw your your processor. The sake is the most different.
You know, well be loka is mainstream, your toy literal
so you know recto and lokay and lokay and okay
(08:51):
and okay okay, locate meta carrera ceo ma trauma endo process.
So the progress or author markinas in mensi. You have
to look at mikada ata you don't put me free
man and propos.
Speaker 4 (09:16):
It's true and co joy whats and thup and you're like,
what's my aspect of the namba los artists, Like what's
what's working?
Speaker 1 (09:31):
You know?
Speaker 8 (09:32):
But the demitoria look.
Speaker 7 (09:38):
Love for me, look at look at that, look at
the funds. The pens finalelda too into siantes cares or
the inn can properta real Henuina no Sando New pal.
Speaker 8 (09:57):
Joe so King so musica.
Speaker 7 (10:01):
It's so enjoy that beings Okay, it's lokay, it's a
it's an advantage so.
Speaker 8 (10:09):
So so it can then and a music you.
Speaker 4 (10:15):
Can like in mos come the land musica right loc
process Okay, see saying as as lots of ports, what
are they also they Okay, okay, come on. One of
the best opportunities that you feel like the industry is
providing right now.
Speaker 5 (10:34):
For artists to like be their best sells. Like what's
working that they're offering? Right that can if a you
(10:59):
too pronto you know.
Speaker 7 (11:03):
I di rectamented links from Algo Town Instantano.
Speaker 8 (11:15):
Little like or la technolog you know how fast like
sad So move on.
Speaker 7 (11:24):
My first depends okay, and so that the platonia de
Algo yah.
Speaker 8 (11:33):
Or music yea pens and amazing to me, you know,
you know, you know.
Speaker 4 (11:43):
As soon as okay, not.
Speaker 7 (11:48):
Like yeah, no, I mean to say, was like you
know my fruit po masum there is perfect assum the
(12:12):
ya those Kobe paste, Kobe paste, Kobe paste.
Speaker 5 (12:29):
Yours.
Speaker 8 (12:30):
Okay, okay, we should start championing again. You champions, Yeah,
like I said.
Speaker 5 (12:39):
No, but it's true, that's the first time.
Speaker 4 (12:42):
And there you know, I'm an aera from okay you
know about the group and that's that's pretty much.
Speaker 5 (12:49):
The mold of like our culture right one way, and
that's how we like to format things.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
And it's like, I think it's cool that in hip hop,
like I'm Cardi and Glorrella, you Nikki, you know, they're
so different and they're all.
Speaker 5 (13:04):
Celebrated at the same time, right another.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
A lot of like.
Speaker 7 (13:10):
Boys You're a thing of Temple, lad is getting Colo.
Speaker 5 (13:31):
Being Yoko Timple and Save you know, yeah, yes, I'm.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
Okay okay then, but that said, and my last question
really like what does it mean to chift culture?
Speaker 3 (13:54):
Like you you know, every single artist was dope and
and can that's on the number of streams you have
on its growing. I see yeah, you are you are,
I see you ye.
Speaker 7 (14:08):
So, And I wanna and I really wanna get better,
Like that's the thing, Like I wanna get better, I
wanna learn more, and I wanna.
Speaker 8 (14:15):
Keep creating music like Dope soap you know.
Speaker 7 (14:18):
So I'm gonna keep getting better and hopefully we're gonna
keep growing you buy you yes, yeah?
Speaker 5 (14:24):
What does it mean to shift culture? Like you know,
every artist.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
Nothing I can said mainstream, It doesn't matter if it's
mainstream or underground. Like I feel like, you know, the space,
it's big, it is, but it's also not like we're
all in the same room, right, so I feel like,
you know, everybody sees each other.
Speaker 5 (14:42):
Like you know, you have collaborated with.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
Some really great artists as well, and they they really
recognize real you know, and in which case you're you're
leaving your Martha Marco with Champion then but then you
know you're artistry.
Speaker 5 (14:57):
What does that mean for you to like leave that mark.
Speaker 8 (15:02):
Honestly? Like Joe John Zoomer and yeah, okay, comt do that?
Speaker 7 (15:12):
I said, Okay, the full Yeah, okay joan full.
Speaker 8 (15:29):
Lot of chances that the I and and the top simply.
Speaker 5 (15:39):
So SI.
Speaker 7 (15:47):
You know, ky like and you know, like, okay, I
get that he hallow you hallow tongue local poke So
so como no I master representation?
Speaker 1 (16:09):
Oh my god?
Speaker 2 (16:10):
You know I gu saying it's saying the things behind
you already know how I feel. I don't want to pause.
We'll be right back with morning, Augustine. After these messages
take I don't move, I said, local.
Speaker 8 (16:25):
Local, local, peral Joe. I made peace with that.
Speaker 7 (16:29):
Well you know what I said, yeah, periment said pack
last massas.
Speaker 5 (16:38):
Ok.
Speaker 7 (16:39):
Sorry, A lot of massas consume marking, consume big machines.
So com mart in the Metoka pensa forma. He said, okay, yo, yeah,
I just I'm just I made peace with being ahead
and gem like literally, I'm like, I treat my career
(16:59):
as a hitting jam.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
I love that.
Speaker 8 (17:01):
Yeah, so there's like ill do you know, oh wold
e E and Domini.
Speaker 7 (17:12):
You know, we went to Okay, I've been consistent. So
I'm a hitting Jim and and I'm made peace with that,
you see. I mean, but I'm in peace with being
this vinyl that is like gold and it's worth a
lot of money.
Speaker 8 (17:29):
Like that's how I feel about my career is like
this is this is a hitting Jim.
Speaker 9 (17:34):
I thought, yeah, yes, yes, ya, thank you.
Speaker 10 (17:45):
So much for being here.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
Thank you experience. So, first of all, he's one of
the most time unto people I've had the pleasure of
knowing throughout the years in this crazy industry. To be
quite honest, here we interviewed twice to be able to
capture something epic by Boil the first time. They're in
the Latin Grammys in twenty twenty two and has again
(18:16):
the recently. I was skeptical about going there for my analysis,
but I'm gonna take it there. Let's talk about racism
in the Latin music industry and the weird shit that
be going on really quick, because honestly, it's just ridiculous. Okay,
So in the industry, there are these phenomenons that exist
for people of color that skate past the line of
tokenization in the straight colo dero. No, for people that
(18:39):
are wondering, aren't Are there any industry wide type ddty
scenarios in this industry. No, but that doesn't mean there
aren't predators. Racker Scratch side note, Datty was looking to
do business in Latin music during the time of the
rollout if his last album, The Love Album. I actually
met him, interviewed him, hugged him. I've been in shocked
(19:00):
since the allegations drop from Cassie, but that's a story
for another day. My point is there are many things
I had to learn about the creative process, cloud power,
who's in power? Who keeps power, who stays in power
and the rese ofment orders throughout the years and what
talent actually means. Talent in this industry means to be
(19:21):
able to carry artistically and see projects of completion. In
my opinions, some of the most talented indie artists are
the ones putting out music in a consistent basis because
much of the development process they take on. Talent in
this industry means being involved in your creative process, but
also keeping up what other brilliant minds were in the
(19:41):
room and me open young because it's one thing to
be brilliant yourself, but when you're in a room with
other brilliant people, you really gotta remind people while you're there. Okay,
And where I'm going is I've noticed the Latin music
industry on the business side. It's filled with a lot
of women, which I love to see as a plus.
I would, but women can and regularly do a whole patriarchy.
(20:05):
Some I don't support all women. Some of these bitches
are dumb.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
I say that all the time, but it's the truth.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
But in the way because what's.
Speaker 10 (20:13):
Wrong with them and most of them being white?
Speaker 1 (20:15):
Forget about it.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
I meinly, you didn't stay with me. The truth is,
in this industry, people see talent coming from a black
person and think, how can I apply that to somebody else?
If you think I'm I am the way the truth is.
I mean, look at everything going on with these ice raids.
A ton of people in these industries are frozen, don't
know what to say, even if they were given talking points.
Speaker 9 (20:39):
Why.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
Because of the way racism works in this industry is systemic.
Everything they see with a racist problem, they're like, oh,
it's this is a problem to resolve. It's something quick,
it's something nagging, it's not something that's ongoing. Like, they
don't see it that way, and it keeps a lot
of people in power ignorant. So mean it back And
(21:00):
why the hell that I mentioned because if y'all knew
the weird fucking dynamics that I experience coming out of
that scenario, after the press thing, when the allegations came out,
and the way people were eager to say people are
always trying to hold him down aka dedicated to not
seeing the abuse for what because it was too early.
I'm telling you, some women keep up patriarchy, whether it's
(21:24):
you know, when other people express concern, whether it's when
an artist uplifts their voice regarding their own talent, whether
it's and artists advocating for themselves for funds. Sometimes we're
not worth the investment, but you can take from us
in a sign to other people. If I start talking,
everybody's about ity be dizzy now, But talented acts like Nino.
(21:44):
I'm going there because the truth is people see greatness,
act like they don't see greatness, and play with the
time of black I means I'm always that's what not
ye happened from me? I can't wait to hear what
you have to say right now. INDJ advocate the brilliant
(22:10):
mind behind Fedil to the people. Okay, when I know
you got a lot of hot takes, my dear, so
let's get right into it first and foremost, who are
you listening to right now?
Speaker 10 (22:27):
And who should people be paying more attention to?
Speaker 11 (22:29):
Personally? I'm really listening. I love him. I love Dela
Rose like I fuck with her like I'm like yes, bitch, yes,
Like I love the lyricism of hers like she's actually
like I feel like in Regatton right now, there's a
lack of lyricism and I appreciate her lyricism honestly, and
(22:49):
I like my day because and I like I can
play that at the club.
Speaker 10 (22:54):
So love it, love it. I love that last part
that you said, I can actually play that at the clubs.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
Because look, okay, let's go there, because there's a lot
of things that come out.
Speaker 10 (23:04):
It's amazing.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
But also boy said joke on, y'all know, I'm a
baby DJ, so I better. I want to one and
I open a lot for the parties that I have. No,
not for nothing, I'm doing a lot of because there's
a lot of great music. But no said and move,
so so can you talk to me a little bit
about that because I know you got your own thoughts.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
On jo.
Speaker 11 (23:31):
Like I'm like, I get it, like, but I want
to move my body like that's why I try to
like mix like old school, like I love two thousands.
Two thousands is great and moves, and then I mix
it with aura because like it gives you like that
range of everything. But yeah, I don't know, I don't
know what's going on, Like I want to move, I
(23:53):
don't know, do not get like I want to sweat,
like I want to sweat if I'm gonna go to
the club. I want to sweat. I don't want to
just sit.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
There and like yeah and be sad, like I'm right
there with you exactly. It's this joy body, this this
I don't have any words for. I'm going to keep
it cute, but moving forward, I'm dying to know. You know,
you're an amazing and for what you are, creative avoc
you are the culture got to some d What is
(24:23):
your heart take on Ragaeton right now? How do you
feel about what's going on Regaton right now? Who has
your attention? And good and bad ways?
Speaker 10 (24:30):
What's going on.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
For me?
Speaker 11 (24:37):
I just feel like I don't see anybody that looks
like me, and it's kind of turning into like novela
type shit, like where you just see like a certain
type and then like you think, oh, that's all that
there is in that country, and then you realize when
you grow older, it's like, no, there's like actually black
Colombians and there's actually black Mexicans that you know exists,
(25:00):
and it's like it kind of like eraces a lot
of us and a lot of what we're doing and
a lot of the history as well, because you know,
as time goes by like people don't care about you know,
what happened, you know, thirty forty years ago. Unfortunately, that's
why we're going through what we're going on right now.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
Absolutely absolutely, and let me think, let me be specific.
There are a lot of phenoms going on right now.
Did you happen to watch the cattlege documentary.
Speaker 11 (25:29):
I did not because I have issues with like her
whole owning the w Chota and like now she's doing
like tropical and I've like seen peeps of shit that
people are talking about and I'm like it is a
little weird, but I don't know, like people are saying
that she copied bat Bony, that she's not even from
(25:53):
the tropics like Acidomo Chakowsa. But also you know, she
also has a team behind her, and she has people
behind her that are telling her things. I don't know,
like if it's really her really like being like yeah,
I want to do I want to be like this
or is it her team because they see the formula
and they're sticking to the formula.
Speaker 10 (26:15):
So you touch on a number of things.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
I would say this what a lot of people don't
know is that some not everybody, people of her team
and by Bunny Team actually cross over, but.
Speaker 11 (26:26):
I saw That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 10 (26:28):
Yeah, So it's like a lot of people don't know that.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
So I kind of just be sitting here like but
because it's like, oh, she's copying by Bunny, I'm like,
but it's like yeah, so I'm like, what if that's
just trickling over? Yeah, in which case, you know, So
I just want to put that out there for context
for people listening. The other part too, it is I
actually about the documentary actually saw it because I was like, okay,
(26:53):
I can't critique what I don't know. I saw it
and I was like, I'll be honest, like I wanted
more because it's like, at the end of the day,
she's the biggest rage in the industry.
Speaker 10 (27:05):
No one can argue this. It's a fact, you know.
Speaker 11 (27:10):
And so I'm like, all right, what was her journey?
Speaker 2 (27:11):
Like I wanted a little bit more because I just
kind of felt like I ended it and I was like,
I still don't know who she is. Like she used
some footage from when she was younger, and I was like, okay,
here we go, Oni mo animal, and then it was
cute like there were some videos of like her performing
when she was little. It was really cute, but I'm
(27:34):
like I wanted more, you know what I mean. There
was like a hint and I was I I as
a woman, was especially looking forward to this because she
was talking about some abuse and this had me like
on the line, like people do need a trauma dump
for public consumption. At the same time, it's like I
kind of wish I didn't need specifics of her trauma,
but I kind of wish I had more information regarding
(27:58):
what were the type of dynamic that exists that are harmful,
so other women know, yeah, that's harmful, you know what
I mean? Because I like you know this too as
a woman in the industry, when people don't talk about
yeah that happens, you don't know to look out for them.
Speaker 11 (28:13):
Yeah, until it happens.
Speaker 10 (28:16):
I'm so tired of being surprised, you feel me. It's like, okay, okay,
that's some weird ship, you.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
Know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
So I kind of felt that, but past that, you
know again another support and she's the biggest artist.
Speaker 11 (28:28):
She's doing her thing. She she's very good at marketing,
like she has like I can't and you can't deny that,
Like the business side is on points right.
Speaker 10 (28:41):
Which I will never argue with the brico. Ever, I
just also want to know what you think because.
Speaker 11 (28:47):
From okay that it is like I'm being being at
the you know, the they're like a different type of
life that she's not even about that life, you know
what I'm saying, Like she not about that life.
Speaker 10 (29:03):
It's been in your opinion, has beach hold? I've been rebranded.
Speaker 11 (29:06):
It's been rebranded. No, it's been rebranded. It's like it
doesn't have the same meaning yeah as it did before.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
What do you think it's important now for people to
understand that context now that it's rebranded, or it's just
that things are so different now. Okay, it doesn't make
a difference, like what I know, that's a hard question.
Speaker 11 (29:26):
But my hot take on that, I think at the
end of the day, I guess it doesn't really matter.
It's rebranded. Girls have not taken that as something empowering,
So I guess the flip side of that is that
that happened. But I can see why, you know, Briquas
are like.
Speaker 10 (29:46):
But I always be like, jus gave it to her,
I know, And that's another thing.
Speaker 11 (29:51):
That's another thing that's another thing that I have issues
with Ebriqua men be giving mad props to like fucking
all these foreign shits and there's like people right there
and their sucking backyards. Yes, o keys, Gormala, Ninfa gomore,
baby Pa like La me Ma, like cloud, like baby Wine.
(30:13):
I love I love that song. Look baby Wine, I'm
gonna look that up. Knock on DJ d J next song.
I like, it's like a tropical song, a summer tropical song.
Speaker 10 (30:27):
And so now the I mean if it's with d
J Nelson did and d JEN Nelson.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
So I know that's a yeah, look that up, Yeah,
look that up. Okay, So tambang, I'm dying to know.
In pastor, Mike, we spoke a lot to a recent incident,
and I just want to give you space to coming
on anything else that's going on in the world.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (30:51):
What do you want people to know in this moment,
because I mean, like it's it's kind of us like
if you you mentioned it briefly in regards to everybody
doesn't need to do the same things.
Speaker 10 (31:03):
I would love for you to experid my line.
Speaker 11 (31:05):
In my opinion, everybody has a role. Like I'm not
an activist I don't call myself an activist, but I
am an advocate. I will advocate the shit out of anything,
like if I believe in it and I have a heart,
like that's who I am because that's what I do.
Like in my job, I'm an advocate. I'm a social worker,
so and I've been doing this for twenty years. So
for me, it comes easy and I love doing it. Yeah,
(31:28):
I love doing it. So the social work and the
DJing kind of goes hands in hand with me with
this and for me, people we don't need. Everybody doesn't
need to be on the streets. Yes we do need protests.
Protests do are needed. I'm not saying that that's not important.
But there's some people that can protest. There are people
(31:50):
who are in fear that they're going to be deported.
There are people that have medical issues. There are people,
you know, for other reasons that may feel guilty because
they can't go out in protest. Like so I feel
guilty because I can't. You know, I have a life,
like I have kids, and I have to do other
things and you know, take people to school and college
and all this stuff, and sometimes you know, but I
(32:12):
try in my way, like I'm really good at the
centering information, creating videos like I'm good at that, Like
I'm good at talking to people one on one and
you know, telling them. I'm good at using my experiences
and what I've been through, like emotionally to tell people,
(32:33):
you know, this is what's going on. So you know,
we all have our roles like people. We need storytellers.
We need people to keep history. That's very important right now.
We need people to document history because they're taken away
our history, like slowly. We need people to to just
be present. I feel like people need to be present.
I think a lot of us are are indiferente saloiendo
(32:59):
yo te gonsalam being you know, we gotta work, we
got to eat. They don't want to pay us to work.
They want to take away our jobs now like you
know with AI and all this stuff, you know, robots.
So it's really there's really a war against like people
don't want to talk about it like that, but it's
(33:20):
really a war, and we have to be very smart
about it. Not we have to have people on the
inside politically as well, like do the same shit they're doing.
Like we need to have our people in the inside.
We need to have our people create, like our own
whatever fucking twenty twenty five project twenty twenty five. We
need our own people to do that, like we need
(33:42):
our own lobbyists. Like I feel like we we focus
on one thing, but there is several things that we
could all be doing because we have people who are
good politicians. We have people you know that could probably
get into politics, who are younger and could probably you know. Like,
I just feel like we all have a duty because
right now everybody is in danger. I don't care who
(34:05):
you are. You can be white, black, small, big, blind, beautiful,
a maga. You can be even a fucking maga. You're
in trouble. Like that's the thing about right now, Like
it doesn't matter who you are. You can be poor,
you can be rich. Well maybe not the rich people.
Speaker 1 (34:25):
I don't know.
Speaker 11 (34:26):
I don't know, but you feel me like we are
all under attack, and I feel like people are not
realizing that, and people are I don't know if they're
scared or they're just like, oh, nothing is going to happen,
because they're like, oh, nothing has happened so far. It'll
just die out and we'll just continue living our lives.
(34:49):
But what's happening in LA is very scary. What's happening
just people being kidnapped, Like I work with what I
documented youth, and they're all scared. And I don't even
like I feel so bad, Like I feel so fucking
guilty sometimes and it's not even my fault because like
(35:11):
I didn't even like I'm like, I didn't even vote
for the dude number one. I don't give a fuck
about that dude. But I just feel so guilty just
because I'm an American and they're going through this, and
like I really I feel powerless in a way. But
we're not powerless. That's what they want us to think.
We're not powerless. We just got to like keep pushing
and keep living and keep being ourselves and not being quiet.
Speaker 10 (35:34):
I love every single word of this. You are so brilliant.
I honestly can't thank you enough, and mehand if you
had it. I need you to listen to all of
this twice three times. Listen to happily though, like three,
four or five times, study.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
It because honestly, this is a masterclass in what we
should be doing, you know, and you ended it on
such a beautiful note, like at the end of the day. Yes,
we are powerful in numbers to gather in action in organization.
So me hinted, we can't be discouraged or something's heartbreaking
going on. Absolutely guess what. That kind of has been
(36:12):
going on forever. It's just that it's been being more documented.
Speaker 10 (36:18):
Now more than ever.
Speaker 2 (36:18):
And of course I will not and the right off
the escalation by this administration and so we're not. My
point in being is that this has always been an issue.
It's an issue for everybody, you know, and so it's
a matter of like m Lucas and it's just literally
bravo to everything you just said, Monique, like sorry agent,
like it's amazing and so get that ego. But happily though,
(36:43):
to wrap up here, I'm dying to know, you know,
Like again, I keep bringing it up because it's some
part in me hint that I'm here with an afrobriqua like.
Speaker 10 (36:55):
In my community like.
Speaker 2 (36:56):
And I O, I'm so happy right now, and so
I'm dying to hear what if you can dream about
and and manifests better said, what Regaton might look like
in the future, what is that for you?
Speaker 10 (37:09):
Like, what is the dream for you? In regards to hagetone,
how it sounds like, what it looks like? You know
what it feels like?
Speaker 2 (37:17):
Because considering everything going on right now for Hagaton and
for culture.
Speaker 11 (37:23):
Yeah, I want Ragathon to be more queer, more queer.
I feel like that is where the direction it should go.
I feel like we need to expand our minds and
be and think about futuristic what does that mean? Like
what does like NaIO Garib look like? What does nail
(37:44):
like Reggaeton look like? What does that look like in
the future, Like what does that beyond like the same
beats that we always hear, like, how can we like?
And people are doing that like you know, like Djwadi,
like Bandy, like these people are really like trying to
push the envelope with that, and I appreciate that because
(38:05):
like as someone you know, like you too, you did
your you know your rock So yeah, I want to
see more that. I want to see more like yeah,
yes that's what yea and more maqueer.
Speaker 10 (38:22):
Well then gonna going up. It'll be queer and rockets fuck.
So yes, I got you for me.
Speaker 2 (38:30):
Handed Listening Agent is actually Grace one of my music
videos that I'm excited to do it very soon, so
all shut is coming out, coming out for your listening.
Speaker 10 (38:39):
It's been like two three years.
Speaker 11 (38:41):
I don't even look like this anymore.
Speaker 2 (38:42):
I look totally different, So that'll tell you some me
handed that's all talking up for Agent d MZ, follow
Agen DMZ and to the people.
Speaker 10 (38:54):
So you got to.
Speaker 2 (38:59):
Mean some.
Speaker 1 (39:00):
It's been an amazing episode, has it not? Well? All
of it?
Speaker 2 (39:04):
It's not possible without my team, So it's time with
La Flores Like the Glagata is Anahar Media production executive
produced by Shiks and Media edited by Selaan sevast Duro,
produced by.
Speaker 1 (39:19):
Grace Gonzalez Mia Mode.
Speaker 2 (39:22):
Shout out to my amazing production assistant Naomi Sado and
Kayla Ecklisson. Las Amo music by Hobby Vibes Lavi Bra
shot directly from Clevelander and South Miami Beach. Your I'm
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