EP#13 We're Talented, Opinionated & Not Sorry ft. Locatora & Valeria Cid

The legacy of Latinas in podcasting, What Latinos are getting wrong in culture, and more with Mala & Diosa of Locatora, Marijuanera & Señora Sex Ed. Codigo of the week with Artist on the rise Valeria Cid.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:05):
Podcasting isn't for the week.

Speaker 2 (00:08):
Most people who start stop, but that's not true for
today's guests. Mala Idiosa, the masterminds behind loc Marija and
Senora sex Ed are badasses in the podcasting realm and
are great friends of mine. A shout out to Radio
Manea and bag Ladies and my baby Bet I want
to one who are all part of the early generation

(00:29):
of podcasting pushing culture forward. It's amazing the community you
can build with people, some of whom you haven't even
met yet.

Speaker 1 (00:37):
I have never.

Speaker 2 (00:38):
Hugged Malandiosa in real life yet coming up real soon because.

Speaker 3 (00:43):
That'll be n LA, but doesn't start for another day.

Speaker 2 (00:45):
Today I'm getting the hot takes from Malandiosa on what's
going on in the world, a bit of their story,
and of course talking about their experiences when I get
on flipping the script on them because I was just
on their podcast.

Speaker 1 (00:59):
I'm excited and later on.

Speaker 2 (01:01):
This week's Codigo is with Valeria sid an amazing Dominican
Bodrigua artist based in Miami who can sing honey. The
mic is on her persistence in the industry is honorable
and I take any advice that she'd give because she's
still here and her time is coming. So much is
taken on this week's episode of I said get bongas

(01:26):
this one's gonna be good.

Speaker 1 (01:27):
Young. I'm super excited because, OK, hey, what the girl
my day once?

Speaker 2 (01:47):
Locatra mala, that's true. Last de Los Angeles, ladies, how
are you doing?

Speaker 1 (01:53):
Hi?

Speaker 4 (01:55):
I'm good, so nice to be here talking to you again.
The last time we we had a conversation, you were
on our podcast.

Speaker 2 (02:02):
Yes, Oh my gosh.

Speaker 5 (02:08):
Hey girl, it's THEOSA. I'm super happy to be in
conversation with you. We have been I can't even remember.
I think I might have found you and your work
and your platform on the OG podcast Radio Mania. But
I've been like just such a big fan and supporter
of your work since then, and we've had you on

(02:29):
our show, we've had you on our other show, like
we've like, are super down to collab with you. So
it's an honor to be in conversation with you.

Speaker 1 (02:37):
Y'all know, I had to spend the block.

Speaker 2 (02:39):
I love y'all so much for y'all listening, as these
ladies are my day ones. As you've heard in the
monologue prior to this conversation and in which case we
are going to hop right into it me some motives Loka.
Oh my god, it's literally been years. You guys are ogs.
I mean in the sense of like latinas in podcasting.

(03:01):
It's a very general and hard question, I guess I
would say, but like if you had to like reflect
on what it's been like all these years storytelling this
telephonic novela of yours and not to mention marijuana, not
to mention like all of the evolutions of you know,
your storytelling, Just tell me what is that like, both

(03:24):
as like a storytelling experience and also with the dynamic
of both of y'all.

Speaker 4 (03:28):
You know, it's so interesting that you ask that question now,
because we just saw news of a podcast where like
their second host has dropped out right, and it's not
easy to keep a show going, and hosts don't always
make it past a couple seasons.

Speaker 3 (03:50):
And we've seen that with several podcasts where.

Speaker 4 (03:54):
It's not meant to be a rotating host setup, but
it ends up becoming a rotating host setup because host leave,
other host get brought in on and on and on,
or the podcast just close out and cease to put
out new episodes. So on the one hand, it's been
so amazing working together and building our show, building our slate,

(04:17):
building our company, bringing in friends. It's also been really
eye opening over the years to watch other shows not
do the same. So I don't know, I just I
feel grateful, I feel inspired, and I wish there was
a way that like podcasting could be.

Speaker 3 (04:34):
More sustainable for people.

Speaker 4 (04:36):
But it's hard. It's hard to keep a show going.
So at season ten, I'm like, I'm so happy with
where we are season ten.

Speaker 1 (04:45):
Yeah. Ten, y'all they're not new to this.

Speaker 2 (04:47):
They treated this dedicated, like honestly goals, honestly, just like you.

Speaker 1 (04:54):
Guys said, Oh, it's an honor to be here. It's
an honor to have you.

Speaker 2 (04:56):
I love y'all so much, and y'all inspire me and honestly,
in many ways, more ways than one, you guys have
kept me going as well, So.

Speaker 1 (05:04):
Thank you for being you. Like I'm excited to give
you all, y'all flowers like that.

Speaker 2 (05:08):
As one of the many reasons why I love y'all
so much is because y'all keep it real, and y'all
keep it real well being exactly who you are, like
this is where I am. This is what's going on.
This is my take, this is the background of it.
You guys take like journalism seriously, and I appreciate that

(05:29):
because how oh to grab a mic and stop start talking.
So oh yeah, there's some people just be on Amazon
find a little kid yeapping just saying anything. So like,
I know y'all got opinions on that and that whole phenomena,
especially with everything going on, I want to hear from you.

Speaker 1 (05:48):
What is your take, because yeah, yeapping girl.

Speaker 5 (05:52):
I know, I mean, listen. I love the podcasting is
in some ways like has democratized the media space in
the sense that anyone can really make their own show,
and a lot of underrepresented voices have made their own
shows successful ones. I applaud that. I always will. At
the same time, not everyone with a mic is a journalist, right,

(06:14):
Not everyone with a mic should have a podcast, you know,
And I'm talking about the menisphere. I'm talking about like
the misogyny, transphobia, homophobia being spread on some of the
most popular shows out there that I'm not about. And
so it's like everyone could have a podcast, not everyone
should have a podcast, And that is my take.

Speaker 1 (06:36):
It's it's and.

Speaker 3 (06:37):
I'm not talking about the women.

Speaker 5 (06:38):
I'm not talking about the marginalized voices that are that
should be like given platforms and should be given resources
and money to make a successful show. I'm talking about
the ones spreading the hate, spreading the misinformation the manisphere.
Like that is what I have a problem with my goal.

Speaker 4 (06:56):
I think what happens too in this space is once
somebody with their podcasts or their TikTok account or their
their Instagram, once they gain enough of a following and
enough visibility, there's almost this immediate transference to this title
of influencer, you know, like they're influential. And then in

(07:18):
times of crisis, like the time we're in right now,
we see a lot of I think energy spent like
asking people with visibility and large followings to be like
voices of the community leaders say something, do something. But
are they the right people to say something or do something?
And I think sometimes we put to and I say

(07:41):
we the Latino community to keep it specific. I think
sometimes we put too much stock and too much importance
behind somebody with a microphone and a million followers or
a million monthly downloads, and the question is like, what
are they put pushing out to those million followers, and

(08:03):
what are they saying that's being downloaded a million times?
And is it making a dent in the problems of
the world? Is it adding to it? Is it propaganda?
I think we have to be careful. And this is
where the idea of like literacy comes in, Like can
you figure out what's a legitimate place to get your

(08:23):
information and what is a place that's just yapping.

Speaker 2 (08:27):
I know I pushed this podcast in the right direction
because it's the way that my last couple of guests
have said the exact same thing in regards to media literacy.
In regards to like my being a privilege, it's like exactly,
and it's like, again, for those listening, we are not haters,
be great. At the same time, it's like, bro, it's
a privilege, Like you can't just be saying shit, and

(08:49):
like people are listening, so like super super stuck on
like that part that you said regarding like wanting to
put these people with these million followers talk and it's like, yes,
we should be.

Speaker 1 (09:05):
Listening to people who already saying the things. There's so
many people saying the things.

Speaker 2 (09:09):
Already, so it's like if that's where they at let's
just accept it for what it is. And I'm guilty
of that too because I used to be like, yo,
these artists are and I'm like, you know what, we
don't need J Bob.

Speaker 1 (09:19):
I'm talking about Afro Latinos like you go stay over there.
You feel me like you you do? You? You know
what I mean? Colorus great?

Speaker 2 (09:27):
Read as a song, Let's go like that's your arrange
and I need to stay over there. But you know,
like passing the mic is something that's very effective and
if only then implement that. So that's something I want
to say, So think.

Speaker 4 (09:39):
Just on that point, Like I've seen so much every
time there's a crisis, why aren't Latino influencers saying something?
But I never see them reposting Mariaino Hosa, who's been
saying very legitimate things for decades, and who is a source,
and who has a team, who has a a production

(10:00):
company and fact checkers and researchers and writers.

Speaker 3 (10:04):
And the input and the interest.

Speaker 4 (10:07):
In the Latino community and the things that are going
on with us instead and and she has visibility, right,
she has a platform. But we're stuck on why why
isn't when do you Ortiz commenting why isn't so and
so commenting on such and such, And it's like, but
why them and why not the ones who have been
doing it?

Speaker 5 (10:26):
I agree one hundred percent with mala said, And I
think part of that is that there are folks that
are now solely getting news from influencers, from TikTok, from
social media. They're not going to see Maria Nokosa on
MSNBC as a correspondent.

Speaker 3 (10:40):
They're just not.

Speaker 5 (10:41):
And so I agree with with what Malas says, but
I think that piece of like, well, they're not getting
their news actually from new sites or new sources anymore.
I think is a big reason why there's like a
pool or a push and a call for the influencers
to speak on things. But I don't like they're influencers.
They're like, at it core, their influencers with positive messaging

(11:02):
that are our social justice oriented and activists and all
of that. But if we're thinking about influencers at their
core and the types of influencers that they're asking to
maybe speak on a certain topic, they're selling things like
influencers are influencing you to buy something, They're not there.
There are influencers like I said that are do more

(11:22):
impactful work. But there's also like the influencers that are
influencing you to buy something from their links, their commission,
and it's like those are not the people we should
be getting our information from also, and it's not shade
or hate to them, but it's more so asking and interrogating,
like why are we so quick to go to the
influencer versus like the journalists. And there's like this interesting

(11:46):
amalgamation that's happening on social media where the influencers are
journalists and the journalists are being forced to be their
own brands and be like create influencer content. So it's
this weird like enmeshment that's happening right now, and it's
really it's really challenging and it's a really confusing time.

Speaker 1 (12:03):
I think for the landscape heavy on.

Speaker 2 (12:05):
It's weird because it is. And yeah, I approved this message.
I'm as we are on so Subonic. We're on a
reggaeton podcast, so I'm gonna ask you some reggaeton related
oriented questions as what's your relationship with Haaton, who do
you listen to?

Speaker 1 (12:24):
What are your hot takes?

Speaker 4 (12:25):
I'm going to hear that from you, So, like with
things that are happening right now in the world, I
think that it's really important for us to like really
think about what the most affected people need. And what
the most affected people need is not necessarily the Dodgers
saying something about immigration. What the most affected people need

(12:47):
is not necessarily an influencer attending a rally and posting
selfies of themselves at the rally. What the most affected
people need are funds to pay for attorneys. What the
most affected people need are calls to our elected officials.

Speaker 3 (13:05):
Demands that changes be made.

Speaker 4 (13:08):
What the most affected people need is for the community
to know thy neighbor and check in with people that
need support with getting driven to work, grocery shopping. We
need to alert each other when ice is in the neighborhood,
and I think that on the ground level, we see
that folks are doing that. So when we think about

(13:29):
what needs to be done, I think the best place
to start is who is being the most affected and
what do they need and how do we meet that
need before we think about individual personalities and what they
should be doing.

Speaker 1 (13:42):
Love that.

Speaker 5 (13:43):
I want to go back to your question Gata about
our relationship with because when you pose that question pre interview, right,
I really sat with it. I was thinking about it
because I I think I really connected to Raggedton when
I was in high school because you know, I grew

(14:06):
up in the like Wincine and De Dono mad Ebe
Queen Daddy Yankee era. And it's also like you know
when you're in high school, it's like when you're coming
into your sexuality. That's when I was coming into mind
exploring my identity, my queerness and being curious and interested
in like a sexual experience, right, And so I think

(14:26):
that for me, that's when I like connected with as
a genre. And I also grew up in a family
that loves to dance, and our family parties like they
go until like three four in the morning.

Speaker 3 (14:40):
Like we have.

Speaker 5 (14:41):
Abunimo who's a DJ, and he like it's just a
regular family party and there's a DJ because my cousin's
a DJ. Right, So there's like always a good playlist.
And I think also living in Peru when in twenty
fourteen like exposed me to like listening to Rayton like
before it hit mainstream, And so that's when I like

(15:01):
first like got into like Blambe and obviously they had
been like in the in the industry for longer than that.
But I think like Blambe is like a duo. That's
when like it like really hit for me. And but
like now I listen to like still like what would
be considered like reggaton viejo, right, because like that's like

(15:22):
the stuff I grew up with, So I'm going to
keep listening to it. And you know, but then like
contemporary artists that I'm also into now it's like you know,
the bad Bad Bunny, right, who doesn't love bad Bunny,
Jan Del Tokisha Youngmiko. I know that they don't exclusively
do reggaeton, but they do like reggaton songs, and so
that's like my experience with regaton. I love the genre

(15:45):
I'm here for, like the conversations about the politics of reggiton.
That's like one of the things I've really admired about
your work and your platform. And I just want to
like add that I was a really big Nikki Jem
fan until twenty twenty four. Now I'm just like big
Eye Roll. Anytime I hear him, anytime I see his name,
I'm like, oh, this fool, that's it. That's my relationship

(16:09):
with Riaton.

Speaker 4 (16:09):
I think for me, like it was definitely MTV dress,
It was definitely MTV dress. And music videos from like
Daddy Yankee, Cataluna, Nina Sky, even like Fat Shoe, like
back in the day, like seeing music videos primarily from
artists based on the East Coast who were doing reaton

(16:33):
and watching that from here from California.

Speaker 3 (16:35):
That was my entryway into rehaton.

Speaker 2 (16:39):
So I'm screaming because I asked the question and Mana
was like, before we get into that, this.

Speaker 1 (16:45):
Is what we need.

Speaker 2 (16:46):
And I'm not mad at it because all of that
can literally be applied to these reggaeton rons, to the
larger culture of what's going on, to what they're not doing.

Speaker 1 (16:58):
You know what I mean, Like they can be shributing
two things like that.

Speaker 2 (17:01):
So I'm not like not mad at that because at
the end of the day, you know, like prior to
hitting record, they also now we're getting into just like
my frustration of like how much the artists aren't getting
into what's going on right now.

Speaker 1 (17:17):
And part of that I've been.

Speaker 2 (17:18):
Able to identify is the fact that these artists are
literally from Latin America. So it's like they got their
Latin American issues, but you're not. At the same time,
they're touring in the US and then want the US dollar.

Speaker 5 (17:29):
Okay, but also got that, like, then why is Nikki
jam endorsing Donald Trump? Why is Annuel endorsing Donald Trump?

Speaker 1 (17:36):
Like bueno.

Speaker 5 (17:40):
Bueno CC, you know, like I feel that, I feel that,
I get that, I respect that, Like a lot of
these artists are living in Latin America, so they're not
gonna and they're not gonna no, but then when it
comes down to it, we have someone like Nicki Jam
and Will endorsing the most racist president that's currently supporting
our pe. So like Guendola's gone, oh.

Speaker 2 (18:02):
Absolutely girl, And trust me, I'm not speaking in exception
of I'm speaking in addition to the end, so like
right on the money and exactly why I wanted to
bring that up because I'm like, you know, that's what
really her maas response was really not off topic. It
was really just right there, like it's like really just
an encapsulation of what the heck is going on in

(18:22):
our collective frustration, which is valid because come on, now,
like people can be doing much more because exactly as
you said, you also it's like this is not cute
and so on this sense, and only because you know
they also you brought up by Bunny Girl. What's the
heart take on him skip in the US? At this point,

(18:44):
I'm asking everybody who comes on the show because I
just love hearing everyone's hot take. I thought it was gangster.

Speaker 3 (18:51):
Yeah, I think so too.

Speaker 5 (18:53):
I think it was so I mean, and some of
you who have said this, I'm not saying anything new,
but I think it's so beautiful that he started with
a residency in Portoreo Go. Like he's going back home
after touring the US, like he gave us a tour.
He gave us multiple tours multiple years. You know, I
saw him back in I forget when you're La Pandemia
and when it was for sire that tour. So I mean,

(19:17):
I've I've he's been to La or he's been to
the US many times. I love that he's prioritizing one
going back home to Puerto Rico and two like prioritizing
a tour in Latin America because a lot of artists
don't actually go to Latin America. They'll skip, Like there's
so many times Betu is skipped over, you know. So
I think that it's it's great. I support it, and

(19:38):
I think he's he's sending a message. It does obviously
hurts the Latino fans who love him and want to
see him maybe don't have access to travel to see
him in Latin America or Puerto Rico.

Speaker 1 (19:49):
So I get that.

Speaker 5 (19:50):
I understand that sadness and frustration of wanting to see
your favorite artists. But I also get I get where
he's coming from.

Speaker 4 (19:56):
I think it's hilarious that he's like making Americans chase
all over the world. I think it's wonderful, like if
you want to see him, you have to travel across
the globe. You have to inconvenience yourself, you have to
support the local economy of a different country.

Speaker 3 (20:12):
You have to.

Speaker 4 (20:13):
And I think that that's a genius in a lot
of ways. I mean, you know, of course we can
always get into the politics of vacations and tourism. We've
of course covered those things on the podcast, But on
the mere fact of inconveniencing Americans, I think he's right

(20:35):
on the money.

Speaker 1 (20:36):
Absolutely, and girl, you collocked it.

Speaker 2 (20:38):
It is funny to like watch everyone like, well, let
me go buy my flight, Like I I love it.
I support it, I'm with it, like I've never been
so in tune with this man ever, and y'all know
my opinions about him.

Speaker 1 (20:49):
So that's saying a lot. And in which case, my lafe,
I'm gonna go back to you really quick because.

Speaker 2 (20:54):
I'm sorry you said the words funny and I'm like,
this bitch is a stand up comedian.

Speaker 1 (20:57):
We can't just get past that. Hold on pause.

Speaker 2 (21:00):
First of all, I want to give your flowers with that,
because you've been killing it, paying attention, okay, like out
there in these comedy clubs in La like standing up
to these these crowds and whatnot. Either, comedy is not easy.
First of all, Like, let's pause, Let's go back to that.

Speaker 1 (21:17):
What's that been like?

Speaker 2 (21:18):
Girl, Like, I've been applauding you from all way here.

Speaker 1 (21:21):
I love it. I just want to hear about that.

Speaker 3 (21:24):
Thank you. Yeah, it's been really fun.

Speaker 4 (21:26):
I got started with stand up basically in the middle
of the pandemic, when it was kind of okay to
go out again and businesses were opening back up, the
open mic scene and the comedy clubs started to come
back to life. And when that happened, I knew that
I wanted to go and give it a shot. And
for me, it's all about writing and taking your writing

(21:50):
and bringing it to life for a crowd. And it's
like this like very original form of theater. I feel
like just one person a microphone, and that's really what
comedy is. It's storytelling and I love it. Since I'm
in grad school right now and I haven't really done

(22:10):
much stand up since I've been back in school. Because
stand up comedians do go to grad school.

Speaker 3 (22:15):
That just doesn't happen. That's not a thing. They don't
go to class.

Speaker 4 (22:20):
So it's hard to do both because stand up is
a lot of late nights, and if you're really pushing
and you're really doing it, then you're out every night
and you're on stage every night, either doing a show
or at a mic, or multiple shows or multiple mics.
And you know, right now, I'm focusing on learning how
to make movies and TV shows, So I'm at USC,

(22:42):
I'm getting my MFA and film and television production and
that's a whole other monster.

Speaker 3 (22:48):
But I love it. I love it, And for.

Speaker 4 (22:50):
Me, it's like, how can these things come back and
feed the podcast again and feed the production company. Look
at LLC and it's just cool to take all these
different influences and sources of learning and sources of art
and reflected back into the trunk, which is look, I thought,

(23:13):
our productions, and then we have all these branches.

Speaker 3 (23:15):
So it's been dope. I love it.

Speaker 4 (23:17):
I also like the stand up is there's a lot
of men, and there's a lot of white men, and
there's a lot of like creepy, creepy men and uncomfortable men,
and so it's one of those things that as a
woman you really have to like navigate the space and
be smart about be smart about it.

Speaker 3 (23:36):
And audiences are hard.

Speaker 4 (23:38):
They'll eat you right up, they don't care, they will
outwardly hate you, and you just have to be okay
with it and take it on the chin. So I
think anybody who does any kind of public speaking or
who performs, I challenge anyone to do a little stand
up and speak directly to the crowd with no backup
dancers and no band and no you know, co host,

(24:01):
just raw dog performance. I think it It makes for
a confident speaker and performer.

Speaker 2 (24:09):
I did so nobody knows this, but I tried to
stand up once at I can't remember the name of
this club, but it was a comedy club and I
want to say Uptown Comedy Club or something like that
in New York.

Speaker 1 (24:22):
And they had like open calls.

Speaker 2 (24:24):
I don't casting like they had open openings for like
people to go up show their stuff if it is
good whatever. And I bombed so hard. I bombed so
hard because I didn't a like you're like writing, I'm like, oh,
that is important. I was really young when I tried that,
and so I didn't think about timing.

Speaker 1 (24:42):
Like I didn't.

Speaker 2 (24:44):
I didn't think about timing, and it was like you
got five minutes, and if by five minutes you're not done,
there's gonna be a red light that's gonna like shine
at the other end of the behind the crowd.

Speaker 1 (24:55):
And if we read light you you know what I mean,
Like your time is over.

Speaker 3 (24:59):
Girl.

Speaker 1 (24:59):
I was bombing so hard. They had to come up
on stage and tap my shoulder. They was like, girl,
it was like so embarrassing. I was like ha ha ah.

Speaker 2 (25:07):
And I had this is in New York and I
had friends come from Boston to try to watch me
and support me, and it was it was really bad.

Speaker 1 (25:14):
And they were like, yeah, that's okay, You're gonna try again.

Speaker 2 (25:16):
I was like, I'm gonna do lectures, and like if
we're gonna doff, it's gonna be later because like we're
gonna take some.

Speaker 1 (25:23):
Classes first, and like it's not easy. So kudos to you,
Oh my god.

Speaker 2 (25:27):
And speaking of lectures, you said USC is that University
Southern California.

Speaker 4 (25:32):
Yes, yes, University of Southern California. Can I just say
I commend you for giving it a try and going
up there. And sometimes I don't know, I think sometimes
bombing is is hilarious. I think bombing itself can be
so funny, like, oh, I just ate so much shit
in front of all these people, and you just but

(25:52):
you survive, And yeah, I think that's amazing. And what
I love about your your pivot and in lectures and
in academia, the expectation is not to make them laugh,
but if you make them laugh, then they love you
so much and it's a bonus because they're really not
expecting a laugh. But if you can sneak them in there,
then it's a win win for everybody.

Speaker 1 (26:14):
Last thing, and then I'll wrap up. Is that my risk?

Speaker 2 (26:16):
My feedback from my live podcast saping of Better I
one on one at Tribeca was She's brilliantly hilarious.

Speaker 1 (26:23):
I was like, I'll take it. I'll take it, Oh
my gosh.

Speaker 2 (26:28):
And speaking of you know, like just funny and joy
and things of that nature, it's really hard to hold
on to that sentiment right now because there's a lot
of things going on right now, and so I don't know,
not for nothing. They also I would just love to hear, like,
what what is keeping you up nowadays? Like I guess
we're going into the realm of like self care, which

(26:48):
I still think is important. So like, give me that
the girl, because the skin is glowing, you look good,
you look zun, So you gotta be doing something right.
Give me the tips because.

Speaker 5 (26:57):
I need girl. Came back from Mexico. That's my that's
my tip. Anytime I go to Mexico. That's where I'm
able to travel to the most frequently, just based on
geographical location. Right I'm in La. It's a hop and
a skip depending where you're going. Anytime I come back,
I come back relaxed. I've well fed, like I've shopped

(27:18):
a little bit, I've walked a lot, you know, and
so I just like come back a little more refreshed
than usual, So that's probably what the glow is. I've
also been on birth control for like over ten years. No,
that's a lie, well eight years, eight years, and so
I think that has something to do with the glowing skin.
But just I don't know in terms of like just

(27:38):
regular self care. I mean, it can definitely feel. It
does feel like the world is on fire because in
so many ways it is. Being in LA has been
really challenging. I was thinking, like, you know, just going
to mexicover for five days, like just leaving the US,
like my nervous system immediately relaxed.

Speaker 3 (27:59):
You know.

Speaker 5 (27:59):
Obviously I'm I'm going to Maxico as a tourist, so
Meyico has its own like geopolitical landscape to navigate, so
i't want to recognize that. But as a tourist, right,
I go in like mera La, and I think, yeah,
just finding ways to like reset your nervous system is
really important. Obviously that doesn't mean like you can take

(28:19):
a trip every week, but I think for me it
comes back to like resting, Like I try to get
eight to nine hours of sleep, Like I don't always
get it, but on a good day, I get like
nine hours and like I don't sacrifice that running movement
is really important to my just general well being. So

(28:40):
just being active. It's like I don't work out when
you're I think when you're in your twenties, it's like
you work out to be like thin and fit and hot.
And now I'm like, oh, I'm working out for my
mental sanity. I'm working out to like maintain like some
type of calmness or I will like chew everyone out,
you know what I mean, Like I have to exert

(29:01):
this anger somewhere. And so I lately I've been saying,
like my runs have been fueled by rage, because that's
that is what it is right now?

Speaker 1 (29:09):
Real And mom, like your skin glowing too? Girl?

Speaker 2 (29:12):
What you're doing like going to them? What do you
tell about?

Speaker 3 (29:16):
Oh No, I'm just like in love and stuff. So
that'll do it.

Speaker 1 (29:23):
That'll do it.

Speaker 3 (29:24):
That'll do it. That's carrying me. That's all.

Speaker 5 (29:30):
Love will do that to you, that love.

Speaker 1 (29:34):
Glow. Well, I'm moving to l A. Girls.

Speaker 2 (29:37):
I got a one way flight July eighth. I will
be like very soon, so like so soon, and y'all
know for for those listening, y'all know. But every time,
like like as soon as you move, you'll fall in love.
And I'm like, I'm ready because being singles for the birds.
It's for the birds, like I'm done and not for

(29:59):
nothing and just quick side note and this might be personal,
but like I am thirty one and I feel like
since twenty seven, like the older that I get, I
feel when I'm ovulating mad hard and like just like
I don't know, my body is kind of mad at
me for like not for nothing. And I don't mean
to be projecting, but my body in particular the older

(30:20):
I get, it's like angry.

Speaker 1 (30:21):
Because I'm not pregnant, are you guys?

Speaker 2 (30:23):
Like like in some similar ballpark to that, because I'm
over here, like do you got baby money?

Speaker 1 (30:29):
Like what is wrong with you? You know what I mean?
It's like, girl, calm down.

Speaker 2 (30:32):
At the same time, I do want a little word,
just as like girl, where's the money coming from? So
it's like, oh, she's coming, she's she's a little here,
but don't do a thing on there.

Speaker 1 (30:40):
It's just like girl, calm down. I don't know, I'm rambling, Yes,
what is your old relationship with that?

Speaker 2 (30:44):
Because the older I get, the more like this is
hitting me hard, like physically, Like.

Speaker 5 (30:50):
I mean, this goes back to that I've been on
birth control for like eight years, so I have not
had like a natural ovulation cycle. I haven't had a natural,
like a full like twin day cycle right in a
long time. So no, I don't feel that, but I
know that that's real. That's real, like you can feel
when you're ovulating, right, there's signs like you're different cycles.

(31:12):
But I do think that just our age and the
women around us having these conversations of whether or not
they want to have children definitely feels more frequent. I
feel like I can't have a dinner with a group
of women without the topic of children coming up, because
it just feels like that question is just looming over everyone.
It's my friends are in their early to mid thirties,

(31:34):
and so I don't think you're the only one kind
of having this question of like wait, is the baby coming?

Speaker 1 (31:39):
Like am I.

Speaker 5 (31:39):
Ready for this? And so it is something that I
even interrogate within myself, like constantly, I think that.

Speaker 6 (31:50):
I don't know this.

Speaker 5 (31:51):
I'm not basing this off of like this is an anecdote,
This is anecdotal, this is not research. But I do
feel like our generation is like the women that have
interrogated and asked like do I actually want to have kids?
More than any other generation has because there's a choice now, right,
and our choice is being stripped away from us more
and more as we continue. But there were women, I mean,

(32:14):
women have always been socialized to be mothers eventually. But
I do think that we're the first generation that's actually
questioning like do I even want that?

Speaker 3 (32:22):
Is that even for me?

Speaker 5 (32:23):
And so I think that these questions are are part
of this age group and part of the generation that
we're in.

Speaker 2 (32:33):
Absolutely, mala. But what's going on with true girl? Because
it's the word universe once, so like.

Speaker 1 (32:39):
What's that?

Speaker 3 (32:40):
Oh man, it's just babies are forever.

Speaker 4 (32:44):
You know, it all goes if all goes well, you know,
best case scenario, babies are forever.

Speaker 1 (32:50):
And you know there's like.

Speaker 4 (32:52):
People who, oh, once my kid turns eighteen, they're moving out,
and I just that's not how I was raised. We
don't live that way. Once you have a child, they're
always your child, and even when they're adults, they're still
your child. And parenting never ends. Parenting ends at death. Basically,

(33:12):
not to be dramatic, but I think about that, and
then I feel no rush whatsoever. I have no I
have no rush in me when it comes to pro
creation because it's something that is so it's it's your
body creates another body, like they have your actual tissue, right,

(33:36):
like your fetus and your baby are made up of
the things that you're made up of. And it's so serious.
It's such a severe situation and I don't take it lightly.
I don't take it lightly at all. So I'm very
cool with waiting until the exact right moment when I
am absolutely ready to take on that responsibility forever.

Speaker 2 (33:56):
Not girls did, though, because I mean once I tell
people once they're they're here. And yeah, I'm not in
a rush either, which is why I'm looking at my
body like girl, can you hold on? You know what
I mean, like hold on? But oh my god, speaking
of procreating and practicing pro creating, you guys have Senora

(34:17):
sex ed And let me tell y'all something. So again,
I'm single. So I was in the very ghetto place
of Tinder recently and I match with someone right, and
as a public figure, it's always very awkward because it's
like I get on the app and I swipe and
sometimes I see people who know me and.

Speaker 1 (34:37):
I'm like, hah no.

Speaker 2 (34:39):
But then you know, like whatever, there's some people who
I think the scariest thing is like when people know
me and I don't know that they know me, Like
that's that's creepy. But whatever, I match with this guy,
I won't say his name. I'll spread him the yeah,
spare him. And so he matches with me.

Speaker 1 (34:53):
He's like, oh, what do you do? And I'm like.

Speaker 2 (34:57):
I never know how to answer the question because it's
like as soon as I answer, that's it, like you're
just on Google and then all of a sudden, but
I was like, oh, what the hell, Like what do
I gotta lose?

Speaker 1 (35:06):
I'm entitled to a life too, And so I told him.

Speaker 2 (35:10):
So he went down a rabbit hole and he googled
me and he found my interview with you guys. So
we want on a date.

Speaker 1 (35:22):
And he brought it up. He was like, I know
so much about you.

Speaker 4 (35:29):
Oh my god, did we spill your tea? Did we
spill your tea?

Speaker 1 (35:34):
I spilled my tir I was on there.

Speaker 7 (35:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (35:36):
I listened to that episode back and I was like, oh,
I was comfortable with these bitches.

Speaker 1 (35:40):
Like I have never Seen just said all out anyway.

Speaker 2 (35:45):
I just thought that was funny and I wanted to
pass it along, but also being on the REGA podcast sucks.

Speaker 1 (35:51):
Let's get into it, like what is it about?

Speaker 2 (35:54):
My direct question here is what is it about the
because I don't Saw, like what is that maneta for you?

Speaker 5 (36:07):
I mean, just like I just love the way your
body just moves, like it's just it's soun Esenthal, right,
it just comes out when you hear a beat, right,
and then like you're listening to the words and you're like,
oh yes, you know, like the sexy messaging, the just
the sex of it all, the bui of it all.
Like you said, I think it's just is moyamativo right,

(36:30):
and it it as an adult right, like I can
enjoy it and I can. It just feels like I
think you might have said this, Gota, but it's kind
of like a nice for play, you know, into just
I think what's really great about Reggaeton is like you
can just be sexual for yourself, Like it's not necessarily

(36:51):
for play for you to it can be, but it
doesn't need to be for play for you to have
sex with someone. It can just be like I want
to dance and this feels good and my body, like
my body likes it, like it's responding, you know. So
I think that is something that I really enjoy about.

Speaker 3 (37:07):
A's a genre for me.

Speaker 4 (37:09):
I love how explicit the lyrics can be and how
we're just laying it all out there. I want to
do this to your body, and this is exactly how
I'm gonna do it. And I think it's so sexy.
And I love the way that I don't know, I
feel like women femmes when we're on the dance floor,
we are the star of the show. Like reggaetons for

(37:33):
the girlies. Reggaetonis for the pretty bitches to shake ass
and fla on our stuff and wear the cute fucking outfits.
And it sets us up to just be like sirens
goddesses and in a way that like we don't have

(37:53):
to be pure and we don't have to be angelic,
we can be our carnal selves. And I think it's glorious.

Speaker 1 (38:01):
Oh absolutely, I love that. I'm like the calls them too,
what is the take?

Speaker 2 (38:07):
But also I'm dying to know, Like so right now,
if I had to analyze rat and I'd be like okay,
so Tokeisha's giving us the things right, but also it's
like she had thankfully she had like a and I
don't mean to project completely because I know some of

(38:27):
her story she had it hard growing up and developing
and things of that nature. I mean, like mainstream wise
in regards to like, you know, how we're consuming her,
she's had a good run in the sense that, you know,
like for all that she's put out in the messages
that we're very gonkee nicely you know, put together for
our consumption and whatnot, like it's been refreshing, you know,

(38:51):
because it's like where.

Speaker 1 (38:53):
Else are we gonna get it?

Speaker 2 (38:54):
I also wonder, you know, like if it's like a
lot of pressure for her so to speak. I know
she loves I'm also just like I guess what my
question is is like do we need more than one?

Speaker 1 (39:05):
I think yes. I also like am laughing because I
feel like there.

Speaker 2 (39:11):
Was like a such a prominent culture that was like
like hell bent on trying to keep her down and
like try to correct her.

Speaker 1 (39:19):
And which is where I'm going.

Speaker 2 (39:20):
I was inspired by like what you guys said in
regards to like just feeling your body and like tapping
back in with yourself, right, and I'm like, she's done that,
she's achieved that she's doing that for other women with
her music. But the forces at play, you know, which
will never go away. That we're trying to like correct
her into a good woman, and like what represents a
good Dominican.

Speaker 1 (39:40):
It's like it was old and yet you know, she
has been able to push the needle. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (39:46):
I would just love to hear your commentary on like
that whole phenomenon because why you know, and this this
also feeds into the larger topic of trying to police
women and like our decision making, which we've talked about
like throughout this whole conversation in general. To be honest,
I'd just love to hear your take on that.

Speaker 4 (40:04):
Yeah, I think it happens like every generation and with
each new like provocative star and you don't even have
to be provocative. I mean, Brittany got it. Even j
Lo I think gets it. And for their own reasons,
you know, people are also somehow find they find ways

(40:25):
to scrutinize Beyonce.

Speaker 3 (40:27):
It doesn't make sense to me, but.

Speaker 4 (40:29):
It I've been watching Love Island and like the hate
that Hoodah's getting is like out of this world. I mean,
people love to hate a bad bitch who is successful
and on her shit, and we just see it over
and over and over again.

Speaker 3 (40:46):
And it goes back to the idea.

Speaker 4 (40:48):
Of if they're not hating, then you're just blending in
and if they are hating, you must be doing something
right and different and innovative. So as much as it sucks,
I also think it's like Okaysha is like she did something,
She did something and it stood out, and I think
that's something to be celebrated. It's a double edged sword

(41:11):
in that way.

Speaker 5 (41:12):
Yeah, I don't think we cannot be putting like our
hopes and dreams on one soul artist and have them
be like the end all representation of like what a
quote good woman is, because it's reductive, and Toksha has
showed us that she is a multifaceted, multidimensional woman who
enjoys being sexual and makes music about sex and because

(41:33):
she can and she likes it and she wants to
and we like it too.

Speaker 2 (41:36):
Absolutely, ladies, Oh my god, I can gap from here
until tomorrow with you.

Speaker 1 (41:42):
Bet we don't have all that time.

Speaker 2 (41:43):
Yes, I'm honest, I do want to thank you so
much for joining me here.

Speaker 1 (41:48):
Me hen thing again.

Speaker 3 (41:50):
They're not new to this.

Speaker 1 (41:51):
They true to this. If you know me, most likely
you know.

Speaker 2 (41:55):
But for the sake of things, make sure you follow
Loga and sing us her everywhere. Show them some love
and tell them I sent you with some o this.
All the time that we have fort Proxy mar my goodness,
Mala and Theosa are saying the things. I don't want
to stop, but we'll be right back. Right after these messages.

(42:15):
You can know somewhere.

Speaker 7 (42:55):
Mayors, indeed, Cindy, Cindy, Cindy's some sons.

Speaker 2 (43:09):
You know what time it is, this time for las Mana,
the god of the week. This week we have Valeria,
said Adupe body domy artist, who's been in the game.
She's not new to this, she's true to this, and
she's killing it down there in Miami. I can't wait
for you to hear what she has to say. Let's
get into it, Okay.

Speaker 1 (43:27):
So that's the Clevelander and Sami shout out to the Clevelander,
Me Hunter, Estoy and happy Feelies on Thista the oh

(43:52):
yes and me and me and Marc Valeria. Finally, finally,
it's been a long time coming. Yes, how are you moving? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (44:09):
Akiy sdo you always You're always like such a good, happy,
positive vibe.

Speaker 1 (44:20):
I love it.

Speaker 2 (44:21):
I always love your energy, my love, thanks for being
here and oh my god, I'm gonna be here?

Speaker 1 (44:25):
Like where are I? Where do I start? Because honestly,
there's just so many things I would love to cover
with you. Let's get into your story. So like who
is Valeria? What are come on? This is who I am?

Speaker 8 (44:50):
So a devo, Domi vida j.

Speaker 9 (45:02):
J and so gem and Arena das fust from the
Tauela con Goo ws In Croque, Lami da Lahne, the
like lesiaul coriol.

Speaker 1 (45:21):
Mosico and.

Speaker 8 (45:24):
And Don the West, the Universita and Lavos.

Speaker 9 (45:29):
The profess the Momento Manuna Puerto Rico and trenevos Illo
m Migarerarita je Jommy McLean, Creeve bas Sante di pa
and Malia e Crevi cri a cappellita.

Speaker 1 (45:56):
You know theestrumento.

Speaker 8 (45:57):
So did you they camp and proud Lesa ca ye
pla musica.

Speaker 9 (46:07):
Jah and po Cambio, the l Pope so port.

Speaker 8 (46:16):
Ci Jia sa Caambio t Mamobila is.

Speaker 9 (46:22):
Romantica canta and moa s am amre cvilas more so
and kesak kemo mia me experiencea it comes to yo
and la musica sa look at Marcia and Porto s

(46:46):
job show and say, I'm just so you know, abuta
and lama no veolia, camas.

Speaker 1 (46:59):
Marlen keo so j para a la.

Speaker 8 (47:17):
Lomo lopo loma sentimental filing multi.

Speaker 1 (47:22):
Yes, I love that.

Speaker 2 (47:25):
Oh my god, there's so many things that chew from
From the first of all, Balas, I mean that makes sense,
same day, same day, same day, and we're gonna get
into masa.

Speaker 1 (47:39):
What I just want to go back to is because
we have that in common. I stay at the choir too,
good ship. Were you at the soprano altoso? Soprano? Okay?

Speaker 2 (47:50):
I was a soprano once upon a time, and as
I got older started talking like this, Okay, okay, I'm
now an alto.

Speaker 1 (48:00):
Altos are popping too, Yes we are, but no, no,
I love that we have that in common.

Speaker 2 (48:06):
And no I wanted to go there, said Blaas, and
I was like, oh I know, Blada swear I do.
And I started thinking loud up our scend thing, mad
I don't know the next of.

Speaker 1 (48:15):
The words, but you know, like.

Speaker 2 (48:21):
Okay, Harriet, let's go vocals, thank you, no by las
and there keeping me.

Speaker 8 (48:32):
You know know way ladies that very fast.

Speaker 10 (48:34):
I don't know, you go getys love being Oh my god,
no so much starting you hearing so much beauty in
your story and I love this and it makes sense.
It makes complete sense to you to who you are,
to what I've heard to what I see, like it's
all cohesive.

Speaker 1 (48:59):
Look at what I said mochacosa right and then dria.

Speaker 2 (49:03):
Like like not thing that like ms right, but thistic
ament and something I often found as you know, I
have artistic aspirations myself.

Speaker 1 (49:13):
Is like get they go.

Speaker 2 (49:15):
Do you think it would be easier per se if
you like just chose one genre? Like that's always something
that goes through my mind with with artists, like it's
an easier per se like Demino, the Lexito gian Borg
artistic at the spite of the main but not the

(49:39):
loking soy and like I don't know, I don't want
to answer the question, but I want to do ask
you that, like what are you what's your take.

Speaker 9 (49:45):
On that.

Speaker 1 (49:49):
Forge b and the finite.

Speaker 9 (49:54):
Looks and Solomon the will trap and this is what
I do is Solamente is ten supubblico na persona porgetta
tolo rock it does s solo gate and rod ket

(50:15):
solomera person on the rock Portaman that's super good, look.

Speaker 1 (50:21):
Statamboo and music regular. So it's like whatever what sound exactly?

Speaker 9 (50:31):
So really that JOm Castle market come pop itself in
general and hen.

Speaker 8 (50:37):
Kelly momento and po my contra kiras.

Speaker 9 (50:46):
Cato ma purbo ammeto mo tempo and contract bengoe.

Speaker 8 (50:57):
And paracon mimos and motor retro me a moto.

Speaker 1 (51:03):
Moto, henk be a single.

Speaker 9 (51:06):
Popera, motro henta different, cass real different the solo and
contract to wars and look at said kehint and importance
to see yesterday chata set down, But I have.

Speaker 1 (51:28):
No importa. Look look they they know what they are
savag in a song.

Speaker 9 (51:37):
Soa is Tonaldo I Hugara Jools Samra.

Speaker 1 (51:49):
I think that's intelligent.

Speaker 2 (51:51):
Yeah, I hear that and it makes sense and every
really is like on a case by case basis because
hitter too, like I'm trying to get get your Solago
trap because so I can go down the mes trap.

Speaker 1 (52:05):
Is trap. It's so like I really appreciate what you said.
I'm like, oh, I'm with a singer. Like yes, I've
interviewed many people, but like you actually you know how
to sing, which you know, I don't mean this is
this is a there's no respect.

Speaker 2 (52:24):
But it's like made up Oi India. So you don't
even need to know how to sing to make music anymore.
It's not a requirement. And it's it's terrifying to a
lot of people. It's because it's like, Okay, what type
of parameters is there? There really aren't that many, not

(52:45):
an English sons.

Speaker 1 (52:46):
I'm sorry, like laughing. I know it's because it's a
lot because it's true.

Speaker 2 (52:50):
I'm a talk singer if I'm being honest, honest, honest.
And it's not because like cats, I'm not Beyonce. We're
not gonna go there.

Speaker 1 (52:57):
I Am not Beyonce.

Speaker 2 (52:58):
Let's yep, I'm in I know I don't have that register,
that vocal register, pedro whatever. But more importantly, like to
what I want to do, I'm gonna talk, taking her
get into the point you actually say, and so how
is navigating that because I I have in my experience,

(53:20):
I've seen in the studio artists who try to riff right,
you know, do all the la laws and whatever, and
I've seen producers go back and say.

Speaker 1 (53:31):
Na, no, that's what does that feel like? Like talk
to me? I know you go through that Oh my god,
get into that place.

Speaker 11 (53:41):
Yeah, yeah, come on, I'm like what I'm supposed to do,
Like I can't do any less?

Speaker 9 (53:59):
Say je juicella passer conenso for glada cata catillo t
mana be perma brandi and no per theo soya fin
porge momento rosalia al plano.

Speaker 1 (54:22):
For elections to what's some different.

Speaker 9 (54:25):
To mundo sato being rosalia coma bibratos k el Cara said,
said Una calinda rosalia, no nosoferratos biratos and moso lo

(54:46):
usa lahnelo Ama, Yeah, I lael respecta.

Speaker 1 (54:49):
Porke he cannot import the local look so total unque.

Speaker 3 (54:57):
Go sando lo.

Speaker 1 (55:00):
People look at it.

Speaker 9 (55:02):
Yeah, people love different, but people are not willing to
let you be different.

Speaker 2 (55:07):
It's like it's like this thing and thank you because
like it's like this thing where like Okay, I know
what I want to do and I want.

Speaker 1 (55:15):
To be in this lane and I want to be different.

Speaker 2 (55:18):
And then it's kind of like the thing where it's
like until other people validate it, you know that everybody
is gonna see, oh yeah, that's a.

Speaker 1 (55:26):
Good idea.

Speaker 2 (55:28):
That like no should have would have could have stayed
a box, but that'd be different. But that don't you know,
it's like it's exhausting. I've I've I've clocked that in
the in the studio. It's like been very interesting to watch,
and I'm just like, oh, this generation, I often question
if people actually like that's that's where my.

Speaker 1 (55:51):
Brain's been at. That's a very good question, that's where.

Speaker 2 (55:53):
My brain's been at, because look, fux stream culture, Like
if a song is good and it's four minutes, if
it's five minutes, if it's six minutes, I will here
beginning to end, and I'll replay play, you know, but
like making it so short that we play.

Speaker 1 (56:07):
It again and again and again. It's just so cheap.

Speaker 3 (56:11):
It really is.

Speaker 2 (56:12):
It's not giving a love for music, it's it's giving
hurry up and get it over with. Yeah, And I'm like,
what is the rush?

Speaker 1 (56:19):
I don't know we're looking. I'm not I'm not used
to this rush. Joengo de.

Speaker 8 (56:29):
Till that artist really is another album, so.

Speaker 9 (56:42):
Muriouand I invest my time my money.

Speaker 8 (56:48):
As in the bern artists, this is so difficult sometimes
in como.

Speaker 9 (56:54):
Likes but it just seems it's a car.

Speaker 1 (57:21):
And you don't enjoy your process. I'm just to say this.

Speaker 2 (57:24):
I'm not like you say this because this is something
that I don't feel like it's talked about enough. It's
something that I feel like people have really swept under
the rug, like it's not not people are pretty much
like this is the game, get over it.

Speaker 1 (57:35):
And I'm just like, what are we what are we
heading towards? If this is what the dynamic is.

Speaker 2 (57:43):
I I this is why I think I really am
a historian at heart, because I really live in my
nostalgia and like it was sounding like when I went
back in my day, but really but really we're growing up,
Klynn't the little dimple the LimeWire when like you had
to download with these viruses like fan Mundo you know,

(58:10):
you know, and then you're hearing in the songs like
Barrio Phino coming soon to this before and like it's
like it was like no, it was an appreciation, it
was the build up. It was we're listening, this is
the album for the year, you know what I mean,
And like, oh my god, it was just such a
different culture of like how we listen to I miss iPod,

(58:33):
like that culture. I used to do people's iPods. I
used to do people girl. I was a coderback in
the day. People it was my Space pages, them their layouts,
get at me html sss. But no, it was just
such a magical time. I miss sure they put the
little song now on the Instagram.

Speaker 1 (58:52):
It all hit the same. You don't know what it's
like to know. They don't know what it's like to
have on tlleen. We all we all be coding because
my ye man, they don't know a photo bucket, a mihinde.
We're going far.

Speaker 2 (59:11):
But it was a different time and like socially, you know,
how we communicated musically, how we consumed now.

Speaker 1 (59:21):
I'm honest with you, like, I think.

Speaker 2 (59:23):
That's also wise speaking for me, at least, I got
the I've been in the sodia for a while, like
creating the Vault, and I'm also anxious. I'm like, y'all
better appreciate this stuff when I come out, because it
is expensive and I would love to hear from you,
like in regards to, like, you're an independent artist, making
music cost money, Marketing music costs money.

Speaker 1 (59:45):
What has been like the most frustrating.

Speaker 2 (59:48):
Part for you, the beautiful part and the frustrating part
being an independent artist in regards to like building up
your musical repertoire, building up your your audience, having to
be consistent the what does.

Speaker 1 (01:00:01):
That look like?

Speaker 9 (01:00:02):
You know, like Damn Mira Permanea say their sign. Okay,
you know said I don't want to do this anymore.
It's been so long time doing it. No person lak

(01:00:23):
you know, and implemented right and this and this is
very common with and muen siertomo jolimoda is.

Speaker 1 (01:00:58):
The it's an keva plot so.

Speaker 9 (01:01:04):
Jup dido the ma siato map and ma Siato and
control persona and crer purge the projecto solo Jacobs and
Colombia Okay soon the mas.

Speaker 1 (01:01:19):
And contralt look at your career.

Speaker 9 (01:01:23):
Sonar da joa brende como cosa indica musido tango and
let's see repetto repeto. Look make the simple repetto pedro
da camera the in between the sept so the bass

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to say the econ Doomenohina pas Cosa, Prido Projecto and
theo com sell Me album relative song Demos matter is.

Speaker 1 (01:02:00):
The la con Khorn. It's gonna figure it out what
I was doing and your travaando.

Speaker 9 (01:02:15):
They pa Netflix, jerolgo ke Basar peroezo i actual ko
organic coment a medium, the streaming Spotify person so aim no.

Speaker 1 (01:02:41):
No, they're for you girl. So that for me, it's
a very very big thing on.

Speaker 9 (01:02:50):
Meloa Celebra, celebrat, de Fulgobaso and Momentoo maybe Cancillo k Independiente,
Sola Cnae Tornando and Paris Casa Pedro.

Speaker 1 (01:03:12):
That's that's that, that's that's the good thing about.

Speaker 9 (01:03:22):
Mato caet real to look at.

Speaker 8 (01:03:31):
Purges fussy here and that's why that's why pastre.

Speaker 1 (01:03:39):
Sa personage it say you have in okay peget nova
o can you caill numero.

Speaker 9 (01:03:56):
This is a constante nimpt la fama a mum and.

Speaker 1 (01:04:07):
Lamente bien joe.

Speaker 8 (01:04:19):
So momentomento.

Speaker 2 (01:04:31):
And this is why I'm roading for you, no, because
if anyone was like the epitome of like consistency, like
you come to mind.

Speaker 1 (01:04:40):
And I'm not just saying that because.

Speaker 2 (01:04:42):
You're my friend, likemente, like you keep going, you know,
and I know that's hard. You literally just explained how
hard and LIKEDO likea like from like a personal standpoint
as well as professional.

Speaker 1 (01:04:57):
So Melon, okay, it's now laende. I mean what another
thing to say that?

Speaker 2 (01:05:10):
And and and and Spotify and and those streaming like
LaMeta and meg with like this algorithm, there is a
lot of America for some people.

Speaker 1 (01:05:23):
So like no felasis, Oh my god, no no, But
we need to get into singing day saying day, same day.
Let me take you something I saw I said saying
it live.

Speaker 2 (01:05:40):
For the first time at a shout out to sound
trans at a sound trust at.

Speaker 1 (01:05:47):
It was a show showcase, showcase. Yes, and you know
and you know ild I know she's gonna do her thing.
But catch I known as a girl. Did you get
a distribution there for this?

Speaker 2 (01:06:04):
This is the one I hear the song radio tell
me about the songs.

Speaker 1 (01:06:13):
Just start all the lock NOI sister call me wa
Loki as the polar.

Speaker 9 (01:06:25):
That song.

Speaker 8 (01:06:30):
It's a song like crib called.

Speaker 1 (01:06:33):
Jacobs called.

Speaker 9 (01:06:36):
The Sono Spruce and you're creaming Supecto Ino Samia in
a coon like that the vasaria see Essa Colombodia and
passida Salama reavente loco salado. Yeah, it's a baby sorry

(01:07:02):
real okay, jam pork panta distribution deal. We're gonna simphoniancium
still so j.

Speaker 1 (01:07:25):
Nosas implemented and the word you can also re release it. Honestly,
it's it's like it's a hey, it's a hey. I'm
not saying I'm not touring your horn. I mean no,
I'm not your horn.

Speaker 2 (01:07:37):
Like honestly, it's a here I I girl, we get
the house cleaning singing. I it's that song is everything
you are, everything s do like like lotta lat.

Speaker 1 (01:07:58):
And I'm excited for you and thank you for being here.

Speaker 8 (01:08:01):
Thank you for the invite. My god a way.

Speaker 2 (01:08:05):
We had the tamaki and con by it approxima child.

(01:09:02):
That's enough yapping from me. I'm excited to hear from
one of you. You know what time it is then
for some let's get into it.

Speaker 12 (01:09:16):
And I'm here with Eva Regine dalla Stejas representing those mexicanos.

Speaker 1 (01:09:22):
Hey, we live we lit Ev. Thank you for being here.

Speaker 12 (01:09:27):
On tell me you you're from the south, yes, Dallas, Texas.
Some people don't consider Dallas the South. But if you
get here, you will see that we are very much
still the South.

Speaker 1 (01:09:42):
I actually I have never heard that, like get me hip,
what is like? What's that hold there?

Speaker 12 (01:09:47):
And there's a lot of history there, and I wish
we had time for it, but this is called rapirito,
so we're gonna make it fast.

Speaker 6 (01:09:52):
So a lot of people say that the.

Speaker 12 (01:09:54):
South technically stops at Houston. Houston is obviously a big
city here in Texas as well, and so so a
lot of that Houston culture and a lot of that
emersion that happens I think across any state absolutely still
reaches Dallas. And so that that is a bigger conversation
for another day. But we I a lot of us,
younger folks especially, I think we know we're the South,

(01:10:15):
and we like to always give credit to outcast because
the South got something to say, right, as he mentioned
in the I think nineteen ninety five Source Awards right
East West Coast rap battling happening, and this best New
Artist happens, and someone from Atlanta got to put on
for themselves, right, And so shortly after we saw that

(01:10:36):
immersion of Southern rap really take over. But I am
a big advocate of Texas music specifically. A lot of
your favorite icons are from where Texas. So we got
to give Texas the credit it deserves.

Speaker 1 (01:10:50):
Okay, Texas, Yes, I hear it.

Speaker 2 (01:10:53):
I feel the energy. I feel the energy, Yes, damn it.
Because you a Mexican being from the South, being from
Texas specifically, especially there in these times, there's a lot
going on and there's a lot of learned What are
your thoughts on that?

Speaker 12 (01:11:10):
Just in gen Yeah, I think it's it's really heavy, right.
I think we're obviously feeling a heaviness across the nation.
As we know, we are a nation of immigrants, right,
and so there's a deep heaviness that a lot of
us are feeling when we came from them, right, and
we're rooted in our people, and so I know I've
even been asked like why why should people be allowed

(01:11:33):
to fly another flag besides the American one? And I'm like,
I cannot believe we're there?

Speaker 6 (01:11:37):
Right?

Speaker 12 (01:11:38):
When did we become ashamed of, you know, being proud
of where we came from. What a beautiful gift it
is to know your culture right and to be rooted.
So I think for me, it's definitely made me everything
I am and made a big part of why we
created the groats, Right, Why do we tell these stories?
Why are we reclaiming our narratives so that we don't

(01:11:58):
forget our histories in our truths?

Speaker 9 (01:12:00):
Right?

Speaker 6 (01:12:01):
So it's a lot of beautiful parts to it, a
lot of hard parts.

Speaker 12 (01:12:04):
But I think people have a deep misunderstanding of what
actual people in Texas are like and that we're not
all the negative stereotypes that are often said about us.

Speaker 2 (01:12:15):
What is something that is not a stereotype that you
want to see corrected that you're.

Speaker 3 (01:12:19):
Like, yoh, why are people doing that?

Speaker 1 (01:12:22):
Why are people doing this?

Speaker 9 (01:12:23):
Like?

Speaker 1 (01:12:23):
What is that for you?

Speaker 12 (01:12:25):
A stereotype that we want to see corrected?

Speaker 1 (01:12:27):
Is that right?

Speaker 2 (01:12:28):
Or something that is wrong in culture in this context?
So like you want to see corrected?

Speaker 6 (01:12:33):
Oh baby, how much time you got? Okay?

Speaker 3 (01:12:36):
I have a long list go on.

Speaker 12 (01:12:39):
So I think something I've been saying for years, and
there's so much, there's so much we can discuss as
far as anti blackness and Latinis that in general, right
that you.

Speaker 9 (01:12:51):
Know, you know?

Speaker 12 (01:12:53):
But I think more specifically, I often have critiqued, especially
in my work, Latino non black Latino's comfortability with saying
the N word right.

Speaker 11 (01:13:04):
And.

Speaker 12 (01:13:07):
As someone listen, and I'm not even trying to put
my family on blast, but like my family is like
that right where we grew up shout out to oak Cliffe, Texas.
When you grow up in a hood that like makes
you feel like you're okay to say it because you're
cool with.

Speaker 6 (01:13:22):
Black folks, it still does not make it okay, right.

Speaker 12 (01:13:25):
And so that's something I've been preaching for a long time,
and I think it's really frustrating even when I think
of like Latino artists in Texas making great music but
or fun music, but then they're like Trump supporters or whatever, right,
And we saw that a couple times this last election.
But it's just like, how are you going to use

(01:13:48):
this word when you don't even know the history of it?
So you're just comfortable saying it, and then people are
telling you they are not comfortable with you saying it,
but you still do it just because of your own comfort.
Like it's a really to me, it's not that complicated.
You should just stop saying it if you are not
a black person, punto, and if you don't understand that,

(01:14:08):
you should go unpack the history of the word and
why it was used.

Speaker 6 (01:14:13):
So demeaningly to oppress people, and consider.

Speaker 12 (01:14:17):
Maybe using any other word that you can say and
or you know, want to use.

Speaker 6 (01:14:24):
But I've been preaching that one for a long time.

Speaker 12 (01:14:26):
I'm sure even when old Gina Rodriguez when you know,
you remember that era, honey, like definitely a part of
that Twitter era where she left the building after that.
But yes, it's it's complicated, right, and it's definitely I know,
my my chicanol with my Mexican Americans are definitely guilty
of it. But it's by no means limited to just us.

(01:14:48):
I think it's an issue nationwide, worldwide, et cetera.

Speaker 1 (01:14:55):
Oh my god, there's so many something that I.

Speaker 2 (01:15:00):
Hike you with spitches for a second because I was like,
you know, this is something that, yes, it exists, Yeah,
I have you know, I grew up in Boston Coast
and around the Dominicans and Puerto Ricans, and I have
seen I mean, they didn't have an ounce of melanin
in them, and they were using it themselves, and I
was like, you know, and they're using it in front
of me, and I'm just like, you know, and then

(01:15:21):
and then these are the same people who are like,
you're Latino and it's like, bro, you gotta pick a side.
I don't know, because no, it's just you know, the
willful ignorance in certain aspects of this is like so
deliberate because deliberate.

Speaker 1 (01:15:37):
Excuse me, because it's like there's so.

Speaker 2 (01:15:39):
Many parallels to that phenomenon in white supremacy that a
lot of Latinos don't want to accept.

Speaker 1 (01:15:44):
So, you know, kodos are you to bring for bringing
it up because hot tea every day? No, kudos to
you for.

Speaker 2 (01:15:52):
Bringing it up, because yeah, it's it's still an issue,
and you know, especially now where people are like trying
to figure out who should be fighting for who, It's like, bro,
there's so many things to be corrected, you know, say
absolute least here, I think, especially.

Speaker 12 (01:16:06):
Right now as we want to see more black and
brown or black and Latino solidarity or I've seen a
lot more of those conversations, especially as you know, these
protests in LA were happening in these cities that are
have big demographics of both. It's like not that that
might not people be people's number one priority, but it's
a simple shift you can make in your language, which

(01:16:28):
you're in charge of because language is living and it's evolving.
You can transform that and just be a better person.
You don't have to double down just because you're stubborn
and you have ego problems.

Speaker 2 (01:16:39):
Absolutely, absolutely, Emma, I would be remissed if I didn't
ask any questions about.

Speaker 1 (01:16:45):
Podcast.

Speaker 6 (01:16:46):
Let's hear it. I'm honored.

Speaker 1 (01:16:47):
Are you ready?

Speaker 12 (01:16:48):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (01:16:49):
Okay, I love asking people this question.

Speaker 2 (01:16:52):
Now, if you can in our and or assemble a
track with two artists or group artists are alive, who
would it be?

Speaker 12 (01:17:05):
Oh, I gotta get ev Queen in there. You gotta
do you gotta do her one time we were going there. Okay,
can we go? I think he's still alive, but I
know he's no longer like an active reggaeton. But I

(01:17:26):
love even as a child, I remember loving in Like,
know he's alive, but he's like super Christian now right.

Speaker 6 (01:17:36):
So he's not a musician. So it's he's alive, but
he's not.

Speaker 12 (01:17:41):
In the industry anymore. But for me, I'm like, I
need a batty. But I also like the music. It's
like so og classic reggaeton that if I could see
that mashup, that would make my heart flutter because they
still both of them, both of their their works still
are some of the best, even in this modern digital

(01:18:02):
age with so much more advancement in technology. For me,
it gave, So that's probably my initial response. I probably
could think on it more and change it later. But
those are the two that I think I would love
to see a little a little reggaeton vibe too, that
would be something special.

Speaker 1 (01:18:19):
Love it, Love it, I actually haven't had that combo
and Puerto Rica's solidarity. Love it.

Speaker 2 (01:18:26):
We need another Haga thone question. Okay, well, who are
you listening to right now?

Speaker 3 (01:18:32):
You hate? I hate to be.

Speaker 12 (01:18:37):
Basic obviously, I'm a pisces. I think I just have
a natural incline to the to the Water Boy. But uh,
I also went to.

Speaker 1 (01:18:46):
Oh what happened?

Speaker 7 (01:18:49):
I hear you?

Speaker 1 (01:18:50):
Okay, weird?

Speaker 12 (01:18:51):
It just my screen change, so sorry. I don't know
why it disappeared, but I was gonna say to I
don't want to give him any more credit than he
already gets. I think he's over hyped death, but I
still love him. Obviously the Bad Bunny album I went
to pr and it made me love it more. So
I'm not trying to give him any credit, but I
was glad that. I mean, I will give him credit,
but I'm not trying to, you know, boost him anymore

(01:19:13):
than he already is. I do love how he always
highlights smaller artists or like more local artists like Chewy
and stuff like that. So I definitely must say that
I'm grateful to see not just him thriving in that way,

(01:19:33):
but still reclaiming a political lens, which I think most musicians.

Speaker 6 (01:19:38):
Are and or we're afraid of.

Speaker 12 (01:19:41):
And I think when you have the platform that big,
you have to be wise with it. And I think
a lot of this is seat I'm going on a
political tangent. Now, Okay, they tend to just lean back
into like how do I make skincare or hair care
or something to make more money when it's like babes,
if we're gonna keep fielding a movement, you gotta be
intentional about how you're showing up and supporting. But I also,

(01:20:06):
this is the last thing I'll say. I have ADHD
so I hyper fixate on albums and I'll listen to
like one artist for like months, So that's my apology there.
But you know, I am unfortunately, not unfortunately, but like
a Mexican girly through and through, because I'm definitely still
listening to lots of junior h and things like that

(01:20:27):
as well. So I'm guilty. I need to I need
to expand my regaton horizons more.

Speaker 1 (01:20:33):
Okay, cool, since you're well.

Speaker 2 (01:20:34):
Two things I want to bring up before we wrap
up A since you brought him up, Yeah, what is
your hot take on him.

Speaker 1 (01:20:42):
Skipping the US? I thought that shit was gangsta?

Speaker 8 (01:20:45):
Oh, I live.

Speaker 12 (01:20:46):
We don't deserve that. We we don't deserve a lot
of things. And funny enough, a lot of people skip
Texas because Texas is very Texas government, very harmful to
its inhabitants as well. So it didn't hurt my feelings
by any means because we already experience that you're in Texas.
But also, I'm so happy that he's been so intentional

(01:21:08):
about taking care of his homeland right. This, this entire
album was about him reclaiming I think, his relationship to
his home right and so saying, hey, no, actually y'all
are gonna come here. No, actually, I'm gonna wait until
I even announce more shows, so y'all can get nervous
and only consider the beauty and magic of this island,

(01:21:30):
because this island deserves that much more love and respect
than how y'all speak on it over there. So really,
y'all don't deserve me over there, which is true, and
I think unfortunately in the music industry a lot of
times it's not until you make it in Mexico or
in the US that you're seen as like serious, when
it's like, no, the brilliance is in the island already.
Why not bring people here so y'all can enjoy it

(01:21:52):
as well. So I already loved Puerto Rico, but after
visiting this year, I'm officially obsessed. So I love to
see it. I hope the people that go from here
treat it with the great respect it deserves. Treat the
locals with the most love and funds pay them. They
deserve everything. They are a beautiful people, and go.

Speaker 6 (01:22:13):
Learn the history and respect the land while you're there.

Speaker 1 (01:22:16):
Absolutely.

Speaker 2 (01:22:17):
And my last question, because you're Mexican and we're talking
about Nagatton and segeton Mexa, is like like people are obsessed.

Speaker 1 (01:22:26):
People are losing their minds right now?

Speaker 3 (01:22:27):
Are you hip on it?

Speaker 12 (01:22:29):
Like I you know, I probably know it and I
don't even realize it's considered that because when it comes
to the subgenres, honey, they grow every day. So I
definitely am like, who's considered that I might already be listening.

Speaker 1 (01:22:42):
So to answer, I mean, there's just like a lot
of artists.

Speaker 2 (01:22:46):
I'll put you on shout Out too an episode four,
she's about us.

Speaker 1 (01:22:52):
Like Queer Mahicana, thinking can I get on Max?

Speaker 2 (01:22:56):
Off course, this is when you think of artists like
Yetti Mua or Bayakas or like that subset of artists,
and then there's just like a lot like so it's
just like Mexican artists who are making I as a historian,
you know, I won't time in too much, but like

(01:23:16):
what I've been particularly like, I don't know how I
feel about it yet, but like there's there's like a
phenomenon and I feel you there's a lot of subgenres
popping out every week. And it's funny calling them even
subgenres because what they are is that like one producer
heard of Yetto mixtape for the first time and it said, this,

(01:23:36):
this little sound from this one song is dope. I'm
gonna make a whole bunch of songs with this one sound.
And then now they're calling it something else, and I'm like,
there's so much to say about that, but that's what's
going on. Yeah, so but yeah, for those listening, that's
the context of that. And and yeah, thank you so
much for being happy they though listen.

Speaker 6 (01:23:59):
Thank you for having me. I'm excited.

Speaker 12 (01:24:00):
I'm about to go put on some right now because
I don't want to be disappointing my people.

Speaker 6 (01:24:05):
But I absolutely adore you. I appreciate this work.

Speaker 12 (01:24:08):
Thank you for being such a leader in this space,
because we as Latinos have so much work to do,
but we also have a lot of joy and culture
and history to be proud of, and so you're helping
lead that charge in this in this field.

Speaker 6 (01:24:20):
And I'm very grateful to you for inviting me on.

Speaker 1 (01:24:23):
Appreciate you, girl.

Speaker 13 (01:24:24):
Me handed that's all the time we got, childis.

Speaker 1 (01:24:41):
This episode has been amazing.

Speaker 2 (01:24:42):
If I do say so myself, It's time for the
Florist and I Hear Media production co executive produced by
Shaki Easy Media, The Kamucho produced by Grace Gonzalez Diamo,
edited by Soten by Young. Shout out to my my
production assistant, Naomi A. Savelo and Kayla Ecleston Ela Mousikita

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by Habbi Vibes.

Speaker 1 (01:25:06):
I'm your host, Lagata. See you're right here next week,
Lata