May 5, 2025 • 34 mins
Reggaeton Panameña & Reggaeton-Mexa have something in common, their respective movements in their prime caught everyone by surprise. Boza & Abee talk about mental health, staying ahead of the curve, y los codigos to a creative career.
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Meanhanta La is one that more people should understand. But
as a Panama and Jamaica myself, I'll say only three
million people on DSMUS compared to eighteen million Dominicans on
that side of the island. Five million body was in
the United States, and don't get me started on anywhere else.
(00:26):
My point is we're outnumbered, bro, And with that, I
think it's even more impressive that we were able to
make waves in music in the nineties the way that
we did with the Hanadan and on the boom Thelona
and Chombo who did their thing, and Rookie the era
of romantic style with Eddie Lover La Factoria than Fra
(00:46):
Flex and years later Nino Augustine Loracas such as selling
out It, Charlie for Crana Aloud and Balsa who's killing
it in the culture.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
I'm so proud of us. I love us.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
We're missing stood on a mainstream level, and our impact
is on the Nibel on a cultural level. Like or
his musical alliance with everyone, He's collabor and now one
of the biggest ambassadors for Panama and our culture on
a global level.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
And of course I got him to sit in the hot.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
Seat followed by a god by the one and only
Queen of Mexa.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
In my opinion, have it listen.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
For the past gets up ball.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
Mean mom you know Momada, I said those sign and
priven meska gona yaa.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
Carnt sorry.
Speaker 4 (02:28):
When I made on proposito so you know your position.
And I when I was a youn mar come on
come sky and persona litera said your.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
Monto remember that.
Speaker 4 (02:57):
I came.
Speaker 5 (03:00):
Man loco.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
I when it goes okay to musica romantical like I
feel it's as a romantic style. But I mean, I
see you know develocracous express ali and so musica sargo
regita inter hence rega. In a formal I said, see
(03:29):
men see my person format coma bosau avosa and.
Speaker 4 (03:41):
That wasn't the top person also can know no different
yo your cake man.
Speaker 6 (03:59):
For me.
Speaker 4 (04:02):
Man the local the local memo a me can so
your India crake it's a local qua.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
Cosa.
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Then three for the scenario from persona.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
Co mana cake bos y.
Speaker 6 (04:33):
Quarter the.
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Blanda that a former pama bland the common influenza.
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Too, the he be smaller baby b a b.
Speaker 4 (04:51):
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full full mahara b contos a sensia.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
Roads with s s.
Speaker 4 (05:13):
Come on, come on looking from dif you see what
my leg you see dam inside come o side comes influenzia.
I know we all like laments a flow panaman flo,
(05:37):
I love.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
That ye port time sorry para PanAm americanos and parents
and mony thing.
Speaker 6 (05:50):
Like in my opinion. So you conto carrying claro, I.
Speaker 5 (05:57):
Be and.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
Handle and.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
It's like.
Speaker 6 (06:07):
Like master that.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
Jo lor Chombo stage staving ca mas pedro, makanda.
Speaker 6 (06:19):
M mass something No.
Speaker 4 (06:26):
I mean yo yoga local passa croc pasa that for
cas andra musica okay okaya ya from lo loke.
Speaker 7 (06:46):
You look at.
Speaker 4 (06:50):
More you goos.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
You said.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
Sorry and prepara okay, so do persica.
Speaker 6 (07:05):
The city if you're as this young joh In like
it on me.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
Like a little bit ro sorry tanamna mar and your
pressers moucho, you come on tamber come.
Speaker 6 (07:27):
You know like a man never left press and press.
Speaker 4 (07:35):
Said were position an plea pressure.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
Moment morano and.
Speaker 5 (07:57):
He is.
Speaker 4 (08:00):
So leventary case its fo. We come on apprento.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
O yama.
Speaker 4 (08:16):
And impress someone else. He is simple mucho pent tam
being Marano, Okay, socry.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
Your Mosica go a process o s.
Speaker 4 (08:38):
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musica ca ca see o see them and Takondoa and
(09:06):
coming man father Mama present very look one that. Yeah,
when I look on Sea Samuel La l T.
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so lay flow a bare parch then flow coma tu
youyuliendo your own my own boys not professionally.
Speaker 5 (10:10):
So yo.
Speaker 6 (10:18):
Prenento.
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concept canciola canciom ca your America implemented internally there you
locate manera yah pop Sando and okay and macao presto
(10:42):
and sing let me come on conto defeasis mean intended,
I okay, s preco for momente but you know the
cutas mentalmente and spotted for I'm so I'm so proud
of you, you know. And and you have to super
(11:05):
je nd stars. Yes the movie Metal.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
That's side plain. If you go get par.
Speaker 4 (11:18):
Come ogay Musica Sorry, coming to its most ms man
my bass in America. Yeah, look at the recommodations Musica
Panama local had paid yet Pana man if you get your.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
Men like call Musica masts commercial.
Speaker 4 (12:07):
Musica under ounder called marcial Banama, Cantan lommpar Lexico and
Tinto ma lamdric Smo and Matan sal Mare full full
(12:27):
food cool ok Smo, Meno Panaman and American Mansolomna s
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reto and mucho.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
By Cartmica full full.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
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I'm like Sava and compast combas sorry another thoughts and
regat Lorna plend.
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Your per.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
You know if well Primerican comments and movie meo lend.
Speaker 6 (13:27):
Like in Swiss.
Speaker 5 (13:30):
And Mari.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
Miller my le.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
Loo and.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
You flow Panama Lando right flow you can.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
Your arm reggaeton cos.
Speaker 6 (13:53):
Prim and necess different to mother said bad band okay to.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
Do to person to person do I independent sorry and
Tom said no Necessitimon refreshed the mas your your know Rican.
Speaker 6 (14:25):
Okay American.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
So Saturday, I'm sorry.
Speaker 4 (14:35):
Let menoo wan look.
Speaker 6 (14:44):
To do.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
The Puerto Rico Columbia some of the mass retto and
co retto so.
Speaker 4 (14:57):
Afric you know, refresh refresh that so los second gomic
come okay ma music you come on your moon, the wing,
the hand and on no.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
O okay, I'm going to get myself now for ben
come come and I'm like young Starma conry like do
then I get the s flow.
Speaker 4 (15:28):
Sorry, so you ConA masal you to flow come through
my dan sal mahara las m t know someone I said,
but no longer becomes So I see you come on.
(15:48):
That's what I come forward. Come on which fast? Okay
on the egg come o yellow. Then I'm gonna s
by side.
Speaker 3 (15:59):
So I can't wait. Both me and.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
I Yo talking about has be so emotion. It reminds
me of home and although amazing flow that comes from
both us applying pressure. All the impact of these two powerhouses.
Bosa and Our Star featured a little later that maga
ala but don't move.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
We'll be right back.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
After these messages analysis both Wow Massis let me tell
you from his dance hold don't his unique and eclectic
(16:51):
fashion style. Both has committed to living his life and
apologetically and wow the pressure on his shoulders. Let's be
all the way real here, Let's keep it funky Panamanians.
And then movie Mianto have a for lack of better words,
difficult history. When it comes to standing out on our own,
I'm gonna put myself in that statement, and I think
it's important that culture digestice and who chevern me handed
(17:15):
and then movie meanto.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
It's no sacred that Puerto Rican's running.
Speaker 3 (17:18):
We have time by the system.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
It works that little island, but the pump out stars
like it's nobody's business. Then the Dominic Republic eighty million people,
a lot, but countless stars. And then Banaman in comparison,
just about four million people, and.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
Historically we have just a few stars every generation.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
One thing I was trying to be conscious of when
interviewing Volsa, that thing needs to be heard out loud.
I'm gonna say the quiet part allowed me hinted. I
don't want to compare and contrast him. I think Panamanian
artists individually have earned the right to shine all on
their own. I think culturally it's easier to group people together.
But just because it's easy, does it make it better?
Speaker 2 (18:02):
Nah got.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
What I love about Bosa is is that a cacia
to take up space in his own way and mark
history in a way that distinguishes what a quote unquote
Panamagan artist looks like, because okay, what does it mean
to be branded by your nationality in the first place?
Have you ever paused to think about why we do this?
Like I'm just asking a question. Nom Takis Nomentakis. More specifically,
(18:30):
during our interview, he mentioned.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
Lex and.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
And it's echoing everything I'm touching on right now. I
see none of the year and think Ghana and han
and thanks to or money heis. I've been getting a
lot of questions about San Blas and the Gunya, the
indigenous tracks that we have see what Yes, that seems
(19:15):
so one thing I'm skettish on as I'm speaking here
as well. It's an honor to be group with your
fellow peers historically because of where you're from. I think
it's a very basic style of curation when we break
out of that mold and say hmm, I think that's
(19:40):
more thoughtful and takes more effort, but ultimately has the
potential to bring on even more music and sunto the
last thing I'll say is the quiet part out loud.
It's exhausting having to defend a whole country while trying
to exist individual. I think as latinas we have a
(20:01):
one for all and all for one kind of mindset.
I want to see the culture shift on the note
of being more active. I'm celebrating what these artists are
bringing to the table while standing apart from everyone else,
especially because people often don't call out when we're being costumed,
which is both insulting and at this point, with all
(20:23):
of the critique that exists across media by many culture
critics outside of myself. Choice, Okay, this is a choice.
I just wonder I thought, got it there, wal Balsa,
all my love to you. I can't wait to see
what you do next whenever. Okay, you already know if
(20:57):
you're paying attention, Maxa is taking over the world.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
So I'm super excited.
Speaker 6 (21:03):
To introduce our next guest of love.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
Nan La.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
Oh my god, they take me to another place. I
can wait for you guys to hear this. Let's get
into it, k.
Speaker 5 (21:31):
My dear.
Speaker 6 (21:31):
I'm super happy to have you, of course, because I
love you, and so I do.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
I love, I adore you, and I'm super proud of you,
and it's honestly an honor just to be in community
with you, you know.
Speaker 6 (21:42):
And so when it's your growth. I honestly, I'm really
proud of you, Like you've you've been killing it.
Speaker 5 (21:47):
Talk to me about like how it's been lady like
this year more than any other year. I guess this
one has really marked a little bit of like my
career and it's really opening me, like really a lot
of doors. And I'm just like so grateful for that song.
The song before I did I did it with Yaga, Yes, yes, yeah, period, yeah,
(22:13):
And that one really was something that marked my career.
Speaker 6 (22:17):
I think it's it's.
Speaker 5 (22:21):
Sotist this bet as Nale, Yaga Joe.
Speaker 6 (22:41):
And look at it, okay Yaga, Like I love that video,
the pink and green, the Miami guy.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
Yes, yes, it just.
Speaker 6 (22:51):
Looks like fun and like Reggaeton. What I love about Hergaton.
The reason why I'm in love.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
With Hergaton is because Regaton is for whatever you wanted
to be, you want to you did, you want to
be romantic, ying, you wanted to be political, tying you wanted.
Speaker 7 (23:06):
And like so I wanted to be And Santhia, what
was it like that say on and really that toa
so he welcome my own showcase and on the billboards
you're showcasing.
Speaker 5 (23:18):
With the yaga's come up with.
Speaker 6 (23:21):
Mosica and I guess.
Speaker 5 (23:25):
Your okay, is this really happening?
Speaker 3 (23:31):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (23:32):
And then yeah Symbolian Case the Puerto Rico Es. It
also said you're super verty reis ya guy?
Speaker 6 (23:44):
So just stiven with Rapido.
Speaker 5 (23:53):
Has come on raps pretty little Pamela Case.
Speaker 3 (23:59):
Yes, super.
Speaker 6 (24:11):
Yes, but like it was really cool.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
Pro al right and writing being in that process, it's
very interesting, right because run through my hand when I'm
in process personally, Like I like women and I like men,
so like are we empowering the women? Are we socializing women?
Are we empowering ourselves? Like like you know, and that's
(24:39):
something that I appreciate you too, because one thing that
it's very evident is that you're very authentical youth, and
so talk to me about that, like how do you
prioritize that in your creative process?
Speaker 3 (24:50):
What's important to you?
Speaker 5 (24:51):
It's really important, like what you're saying, like just be
real because sometimes people be throwing the ideas like es
or some like no, that's something like I wouldn't say.
So like in all my songs, I feel like it's
always one hundred percent something that I'm feeling, you know,
when it comes to like like you said, like liking
(25:13):
girls or liking men. I feel like it comes naturally,
like the wording and everything. It's just not force, you know.
And when something's forced, like even when it comes to performing,
I'm like, I don't know if I should say that,
you know, like that's kind of weird or you know,
but everything, you know, I just keep it real. I
(25:33):
just keep it one hundred natural.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
Like me, I was writing a song, right and I'm
on Twitter and I'm like, oh my god, I'm writing
a song. It's about sex, and I'm Kindameian. It's like
a Mayae portoic evoegl.
Speaker 5 (25:46):
Right, so my.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
Spanish is all jumbled like in regards of like the
words that I use. So I was like, am I
gonna writeing God or Jean God? And I wrote like
that question to Twitter and everybody was like writing, are
they right? I'm gonna from like these different countries and
it was just hysterical and I'm like, it's it's hilarious
I'm being And it's like I don't like it has
(26:08):
like its own aesthetic being, you know. So it's something
you're just going to think about. But you I know
where you're from but look there when you're in Los Angeles.
Speaker 5 (26:20):
But simply okay, so set and may he going familiar
and ye yeah things Joe, and he says almost a
yeah battle the last may he.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
Go exactly for those who listening, she's biccon period. I
wanted to go there because I don't mix up. It's
like killing here right now. It's and I'm I'm happy
for it.
Speaker 6 (26:54):
Say yo, got him? Okay, I'm like, okay, is ok.
I want to hear get the ardent you're gonna. I
(27:18):
want to hear that, but I don't know. I I
love what's going on. I love the movement.
Speaker 3 (27:22):
I love the excitement.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
It's like an aura that I feel like the moment
honestly needed, like the bigger culture need it.
Speaker 5 (27:28):
Seeing's okay relates to I think that moment just happened,
and everyone in Mexico was waiting so long. It took
us so much time to other artists to like look.
Speaker 6 (27:42):
At us, you know just now, like was here yesterday.
Speaker 5 (27:45):
Right And he literally turned everyone's head to Mexico when
he collaborated with all those guys. I know most of them,
and I know them and they are people that have
been hustling it for a while, and like me personally,
I've been in this industry for almost eight years.
Speaker 6 (28:03):
I was doing something else before, I was.
Speaker 5 (28:05):
Doing ana, which I'm fusing it with this urbano thing
that I'm doing now. But it's really crazy how things happen,
you know, and I feel like it's our time.
Speaker 6 (28:18):
Yeah, this is our time.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
Absolutely talk to me about that that transition, right because
wasn't met with resistance. I'm curious because like when you
come from a place that's like more traditional, always people
are like, what are you doing? You know, like I'm
thinking right now, Victoria Lamla shout out to Victoria Lamla
ria persona who you know, like always talk to me
about the resistance she got from at least her neighbor
(28:40):
who were like, why do you want to put trap
with that?
Speaker 6 (28:43):
And she's like it's the future, Like she was ahead.
Speaker 3 (28:45):
Of her time. What was that experience like for you?
Speaker 5 (28:48):
I think mixing different sounds is something that people really enjoy.
So I think it's something great for like music's evolution
to just be something different for everyone's ears. Because sometimes
when you hear you know, all these songs and they're
all sounding the same, you just put in a little bit,
(29:09):
like a little guitar with like another instrument, and it
just becomes something completely different. Yeah, And I feel like
that ex cites someone and makes someone like just realize, oh,
I'm listening to someone else's music. You can't compare to others.
So I think it's really cool. And like when it
comes to re Don Mike that, I feel like our
sound is really different with the that's out now.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
To wrap up, my last question is what are you
excited for in the future, Like what would you like
to see in the culture in the future.
Speaker 5 (29:41):
I really like fashion, so there's this thing about me
and some artists. I feel like music should be more
than just music. Sometimes I feel like fashion needs to
really come through. And also I just feel like, you know,
the future is coming, I feel like things can just
be more different, more like you know, show stopping things.
(30:04):
You know.
Speaker 3 (30:04):
I really like theater.
Speaker 5 (30:06):
I grew up doing theater school and I went to
theater college as well, so I have like a background.
Speaker 6 (30:12):
Of being in that, you know, in that scene of
doing movies.
Speaker 5 (30:16):
That's why, like my videos are very like storytelling, and
I feel like performing and everything shouldn't just be like, oh,
I'm gonna go on stage and I'm gonna sing my
two songs, and like, no, I feel like it needs
to be a show, you know. So I feel like
most of the artists now don't really care about what
that you look like, you know, so I feel like,
(30:37):
you know, step up like that just that I feel
like that's something that would be really cool.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
I appreciate that you said that, because not too long ago,
Louis Vutan hit me up to learn about.
Speaker 6 (30:49):
I literally they literally flowed me out. No lie, but
it's not a lie.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
They literally flew me out to New York and I
literally was in what they call their Magic Room.
Speaker 3 (30:57):
I'll post it on Instagram.
Speaker 6 (30:59):
I'm still in shock.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
I've been like like, oh yeah, I talk to us
about and I'm like, no, Like it's a thing. So like,
that's one of the highest luxury brands that there is.
And if they're gonna hit me up, think I got them.
It's like, you know, I ago like there's something in
the water that is happening more institutionally, So I'm optimistic.
Speaker 6 (31:18):
I love that you said that.
Speaker 5 (31:19):
Yeah, Like, honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if or like
Gucci has their own record label.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
Where I got for rial, like being a credit director,
Like yeah, I'm gonna put that in the universe.
Speaker 6 (31:34):
Is that is exact to say that, my love, thank
you so much for being I agree to you and
I'm rooting for you and I love you. Oh, I
love you too, And thank you for the interview. I
really really appreciate you.
Speaker 5 (31:46):
And I'm gonna see you later.
Speaker 3 (31:47):
Yes, thank you.
Speaker 1 (31:50):
I can hear her speak all day, but Temp're gonna
take a break and come back. I'm a secu. Some
of view a rappy little I think a way I'm
(32:11):
handed them and that episo today we listened to Bosa
and I listen young and now I want to hear
from some of you.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
Let's get into lappy little.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
Louisa, louisave Yang give yah and I heard that. I want.
Speaker 8 (32:41):
Gonna try claro. What here, I'm gonna us your adversitysters,
what can labo our?
Speaker 9 (32:55):
Okay can here yo my chang and Kuanto l'es tennya
okay the Collora and Kuantoa super Yadan Lorimo.
Speaker 8 (33:21):
Okay Glaria super yang.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
Okay okay Yota. It's time for the flowers.
Speaker 1 (33:44):
And I heard Maia production Executive produced by from Shiksi Media.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
Love Your Nia. Our producer is Chris.
Speaker 1 (33:51):
Gonzales de Lamia, I Love You. Our engineer Harby Vibes,
Dello Mine Delo Mine, A production assistant Tonaomi Sato and
Kayla eccleston. Love y'all and the show is edited by
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in Miami Beach. I'm your HOSTATA See you next week
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Meanhanta La is one that more people should understand. But
as a Panama and Jamaica myself, I'll say only three
million people on DSMUS compared to eighteen million Dominicans on
that side of the island. Five million body was in
the United States, and don't get me started on anywhere else.
(00:26):
My point is we're outnumbered, bro, And with that, I
think it's even more impressive that we were able to
make waves in music in the nineties the way that
we did with the Hanadan and on the boom Thelona
and Chombo who did their thing, and Rookie the era
of romantic style with Eddie Lover La Factoria than Fra
(00:46):
Flex and years later Nino Augustine Loracas such as selling
out It, Charlie for Crana Aloud and Balsa who's killing
it in the culture.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
I'm so proud of us. I love us.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
We're missing stood on a mainstream level, and our impact
is on the Nibel on a cultural level. Like or
his musical alliance with everyone, He's collabor and now one
of the biggest ambassadors for Panama and our culture on
a global level.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
And of course I got him to sit in the hot.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
Seat followed by a god by the one and only
Queen of Mexa.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
In my opinion, have it listen.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
For the past gets up ball.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
Mean mom you know Momada, I said those sign and
priven meska gona yaa.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
Carnt sorry.
Speaker 4 (02:28):
When I made on proposito so you know your position.
And I when I was a youn mar come on
come sky and persona litera said your.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
Monto remember that.
Speaker 4 (02:57):
I came.
Speaker 5 (03:00):
Man loco.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
I when it goes okay to musica romantical like I
feel it's as a romantic style. But I mean, I
see you know develocracous express ali and so musica sargo
regita inter hence rega. In a formal I said, see
(03:29):
men see my person format coma bosau avosa and.
Speaker 4 (03:41):
That wasn't the top person also can know no different
yo your cake man.
Speaker 6 (03:59):
For me.
Speaker 4 (04:02):
Man the local the local memo a me can so
your India crake it's a local qua.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
Cosa.
Speaker 4 (04:12):
Then three for the scenario from persona.
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come come and I'm like young Starma conry like do
then I get the s flow.
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on the egg come o yellow. Then I'm gonna s
by side.
Speaker 3 (15:59):
So I can't wait. Both me and.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
I Yo talking about has be so emotion. It reminds
me of home and although amazing flow that comes from
both us applying pressure. All the impact of these two powerhouses.
Bosa and Our Star featured a little later that maga
ala but don't move.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
We'll be right back.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
After these messages analysis both Wow Massis let me tell
you from his dance hold don't his unique and eclectic
(16:51):
fashion style. Both has committed to living his life and
apologetically and wow the pressure on his shoulders. Let's be
all the way real here, Let's keep it funky Panamanians.
And then movie Mianto have a for lack of better words,
difficult history. When it comes to standing out on our own,
I'm gonna put myself in that statement, and I think
it's important that culture digestice and who chevern me handed
(17:15):
and then movie meanto.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
It's no sacred that Puerto Rican's running.
Speaker 3 (17:18):
We have time by the system.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
It works that little island, but the pump out stars
like it's nobody's business. Then the Dominic Republic eighty million people,
a lot, but countless stars. And then Banaman in comparison,
just about four million people, and.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
Historically we have just a few stars every generation.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
One thing I was trying to be conscious of when
interviewing Volsa, that thing needs to be heard out loud.
I'm gonna say the quiet part allowed me hinted. I
don't want to compare and contrast him. I think Panamanian
artists individually have earned the right to shine all on
their own. I think culturally it's easier to group people together.
But just because it's easy, does it make it better?
Speaker 2 (18:02):
Nah got.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
What I love about Bosa is is that a cacia
to take up space in his own way and mark
history in a way that distinguishes what a quote unquote
Panamagan artist looks like, because okay, what does it mean
to be branded by your nationality in the first place?
Have you ever paused to think about why we do this?
Like I'm just asking a question. Nom Takis Nomentakis. More specifically,
(18:30):
during our interview, he mentioned.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
Lex and.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
And it's echoing everything I'm touching on right now. I
see none of the year and think Ghana and han
and thanks to or money heis. I've been getting a
lot of questions about San Blas and the Gunya, the
indigenous tracks that we have see what Yes, that seems
(19:15):
so one thing I'm skettish on as I'm speaking here
as well. It's an honor to be group with your
fellow peers historically because of where you're from. I think
it's a very basic style of curation when we break
out of that mold and say hmm, I think that's
(19:40):
more thoughtful and takes more effort, but ultimately has the
potential to bring on even more music and sunto the
last thing I'll say is the quiet part out loud.
It's exhausting having to defend a whole country while trying
to exist individual. I think as latinas we have a
(20:01):
one for all and all for one kind of mindset.
I want to see the culture shift on the note
of being more active. I'm celebrating what these artists are
bringing to the table while standing apart from everyone else,
especially because people often don't call out when we're being costumed,
which is both insulting and at this point, with all
(20:23):
of the critique that exists across media by many culture
critics outside of myself. Choice, Okay, this is a choice.
I just wonder I thought, got it there, wal Balsa,
all my love to you. I can't wait to see
what you do next whenever. Okay, you already know if
(20:57):
you're paying attention, Maxa is taking over the world.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
So I'm super excited.
Speaker 6 (21:03):
To introduce our next guest of love.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
Nan La.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
Oh my god, they take me to another place. I
can wait for you guys to hear this. Let's get
into it, k.
Speaker 5 (21:31):
My dear.
Speaker 6 (21:31):
I'm super happy to have you, of course, because I
love you, and so I do.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
I love, I adore you, and I'm super proud of you,
and it's honestly an honor just to be in community
with you, you know.
Speaker 6 (21:42):
And so when it's your growth. I honestly, I'm really
proud of you, Like you've you've been killing it.
Speaker 5 (21:47):
Talk to me about like how it's been lady like
this year more than any other year. I guess this
one has really marked a little bit of like my
career and it's really opening me, like really a lot
of doors. And I'm just like so grateful for that song.
The song before I did I did it with Yaga, Yes, yes, yeah, period, yeah,
(22:13):
And that one really was something that marked my career.
Speaker 6 (22:17):
I think it's it's.
Speaker 5 (22:21):
Sotist this bet as Nale, Yaga Joe.
Speaker 6 (22:41):
And look at it, okay Yaga, Like I love that video,
the pink and green, the Miami guy.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
Yes, yes, it just.
Speaker 6 (22:51):
Looks like fun and like Reggaeton. What I love about Hergaton.
The reason why I'm in love.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
With Hergaton is because Regaton is for whatever you wanted
to be, you want to you did, you want to
be romantic, ying, you wanted to be political, tying you wanted.
Speaker 7 (23:06):
And like so I wanted to be And Santhia, what
was it like that say on and really that toa
so he welcome my own showcase and on the billboards
you're showcasing.
Speaker 5 (23:18):
With the yaga's come up with.
Speaker 6 (23:21):
Mosica and I guess.
Speaker 5 (23:25):
Your okay, is this really happening?
Speaker 3 (23:31):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (23:32):
And then yeah Symbolian Case the Puerto Rico Es. It
also said you're super verty reis ya guy?
Speaker 6 (23:44):
So just stiven with Rapido.
Speaker 5 (23:53):
Has come on raps pretty little Pamela Case.
Speaker 3 (23:59):
Yes, super.
Speaker 6 (24:11):
Yes, but like it was really cool.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
Pro al right and writing being in that process, it's
very interesting, right because run through my hand when I'm
in process personally, Like I like women and I like men,
so like are we empowering the women? Are we socializing women?
Are we empowering ourselves? Like like you know, and that's
(24:39):
something that I appreciate you too, because one thing that
it's very evident is that you're very authentical youth, and
so talk to me about that, like how do you
prioritize that in your creative process?
Speaker 3 (24:50):
What's important to you?
Speaker 5 (24:51):
It's really important, like what you're saying, like just be
real because sometimes people be throwing the ideas like es
or some like no, that's something like I wouldn't say.
So like in all my songs, I feel like it's
always one hundred percent something that I'm feeling, you know,
when it comes to like like you said, like liking
(25:13):
girls or liking men. I feel like it comes naturally,
like the wording and everything. It's just not force, you know.
And when something's forced, like even when it comes to performing,
I'm like, I don't know if I should say that,
you know, like that's kind of weird or you know,
but everything, you know, I just keep it real. I
(25:33):
just keep it one hundred natural.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
Like me, I was writing a song, right and I'm
on Twitter and I'm like, oh my god, I'm writing
a song. It's about sex, and I'm Kindameian. It's like
a Mayae portoic evoegl.
Speaker 5 (25:46):
Right, so my.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
Spanish is all jumbled like in regards of like the
words that I use. So I was like, am I
gonna writeing God or Jean God? And I wrote like
that question to Twitter and everybody was like writing, are
they right? I'm gonna from like these different countries and
it was just hysterical and I'm like, it's it's hilarious
I'm being And it's like I don't like it has
(26:08):
like its own aesthetic being, you know. So it's something
you're just going to think about. But you I know
where you're from but look there when you're in Los Angeles.
Speaker 5 (26:20):
But simply okay, so set and may he going familiar
and ye yeah things Joe, and he says almost a
yeah battle the last may he.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
Go exactly for those who listening, she's biccon period. I
wanted to go there because I don't mix up. It's
like killing here right now. It's and I'm I'm happy
for it.
Speaker 6 (26:54):
Say yo, got him? Okay, I'm like, okay, is ok.
I want to hear get the ardent you're gonna. I
(27:18):
want to hear that, but I don't know. I I
love what's going on. I love the movement.
Speaker 3 (27:22):
I love the excitement.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
It's like an aura that I feel like the moment
honestly needed, like the bigger culture need it.
Speaker 5 (27:28):
Seeing's okay relates to I think that moment just happened,
and everyone in Mexico was waiting so long. It took
us so much time to other artists to like look.
Speaker 6 (27:42):
At us, you know just now, like was here yesterday.
Speaker 5 (27:45):
Right And he literally turned everyone's head to Mexico when
he collaborated with all those guys. I know most of them,
and I know them and they are people that have
been hustling it for a while, and like me personally,
I've been in this industry for almost eight years.
Speaker 6 (28:03):
I was doing something else before, I was.
Speaker 5 (28:05):
Doing ana, which I'm fusing it with this urbano thing
that I'm doing now. But it's really crazy how things happen,
you know, and I feel like it's our time.
Speaker 6 (28:18):
Yeah, this is our time.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
Absolutely talk to me about that that transition, right because
wasn't met with resistance. I'm curious because like when you
come from a place that's like more traditional, always people
are like, what are you doing? You know, like I'm
thinking right now, Victoria Lamla shout out to Victoria Lamla
ria persona who you know, like always talk to me
about the resistance she got from at least her neighbor
(28:40):
who were like, why do you want to put trap
with that?
Speaker 6 (28:43):
And she's like it's the future, Like she was ahead.
Speaker 3 (28:45):
Of her time. What was that experience like for you?
Speaker 5 (28:48):
I think mixing different sounds is something that people really enjoy.
So I think it's something great for like music's evolution
to just be something different for everyone's ears. Because sometimes
when you hear you know, all these songs and they're
all sounding the same, you just put in a little bit,
(29:09):
like a little guitar with like another instrument, and it
just becomes something completely different. Yeah, And I feel like
that ex cites someone and makes someone like just realize, oh,
I'm listening to someone else's music. You can't compare to others.
So I think it's really cool. And like when it
comes to re Don Mike that, I feel like our
sound is really different with the that's out now.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
To wrap up, my last question is what are you
excited for in the future, Like what would you like
to see in the culture in the future.
Speaker 5 (29:41):
I really like fashion, so there's this thing about me
and some artists. I feel like music should be more
than just music. Sometimes I feel like fashion needs to
really come through. And also I just feel like, you know,
the future is coming, I feel like things can just
be more different, more like you know, show stopping things.
(30:04):
You know.
Speaker 3 (30:04):
I really like theater.
Speaker 5 (30:06):
I grew up doing theater school and I went to
theater college as well, so I have like a background.
Speaker 6 (30:12):
Of being in that, you know, in that scene of
doing movies.
Speaker 5 (30:16):
That's why, like my videos are very like storytelling, and
I feel like performing and everything shouldn't just be like, oh,
I'm gonna go on stage and I'm gonna sing my
two songs, and like, no, I feel like it needs
to be a show, you know. So I feel like
most of the artists now don't really care about what
that you look like, you know, so I feel like,
(30:37):
you know, step up like that just that I feel
like that's something that would be really cool.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
I appreciate that you said that, because not too long ago,
Louis Vutan hit me up to learn about.
Speaker 6 (30:49):
I literally they literally flowed me out. No lie, but
it's not a lie.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
They literally flew me out to New York and I
literally was in what they call their Magic Room.
Speaker 3 (30:57):
I'll post it on Instagram.
Speaker 6 (30:59):
I'm still in shock.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
I've been like like, oh yeah, I talk to us
about and I'm like, no, Like it's a thing. So like,
that's one of the highest luxury brands that there is.
And if they're gonna hit me up, think I got them.
It's like, you know, I ago like there's something in
the water that is happening more institutionally, So I'm optimistic.
Speaker 6 (31:18):
I love that you said that.
Speaker 5 (31:19):
Yeah, Like, honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if or like
Gucci has their own record label.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
Where I got for rial, like being a credit director,
Like yeah, I'm gonna put that in the universe.
Speaker 6 (31:34):
Is that is exact to say that, my love, thank
you so much for being I agree to you and
I'm rooting for you and I love you. Oh, I
love you too, And thank you for the interview. I
really really appreciate you.
Speaker 5 (31:46):
And I'm gonna see you later.
Speaker 3 (31:47):
Yes, thank you.
Speaker 1 (31:50):
I can hear her speak all day, but Temp're gonna
take a break and come back. I'm a secu. Some
of view a rappy little I think a way I'm
(32:11):
handed them and that episo today we listened to Bosa
and I listen young and now I want to hear
from some of you.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
Let's get into lappy little.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
Louisa, louisave Yang give yah and I heard that. I want.
Speaker 8 (32:41):
Gonna try claro. What here, I'm gonna us your adversitysters,
what can labo our?
Speaker 9 (32:55):
Okay can here yo my chang and Kuanto l'es tennya
okay the Collora and Kuantoa super Yadan Lorimo.
Speaker 8 (33:21):
Okay Glaria super yang.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
Okay okay Yota. It's time for the flowers.
Speaker 1 (33:44):
And I heard Maia production Executive produced by from Shiksi Media.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
Love Your Nia. Our producer is Chris.
Speaker 1 (33:51):
Gonzales de Lamia, I Love You. Our engineer Harby Vibes,
Dello Mine Delo Mine, A production assistant Tonaomi Sato and
Kayla eccleston. Love y'all and the show is edited by
the Sebastian Yeah. And another shout out to the Clevelander
in Miami Beach. I'm your HOSTATA See you next week
(34:12):
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