May 26, 2025 • 34 mins
Shining on your own, stepping out of a larger shadow is something that these two guests know all too well. Jeremy Ayala is a multi-platinum award winning producer, who so happens to be Daddy Yankee’s son. Immasoul is a multi-genre talent who so happened to shine primarily in R&B En Español. These are their stories.
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
I love R and B. It's one of the most
powerful genres in the market. Next two hip hop, let's
be real. Inspired by jazz, funk, but especially blues. It's
a genre that allows itself to like be expressed lyrically
in a very vulnerable way, and I connect with fans
in a very emotional way. And it's beautiful. And as
a girl who grew up in the hood, I appreciate
that shion I grew up listening to Mary J. Blige,
(00:28):
Jenuine Usher, TLC, but especially like Aliah singing my heart
out to songs many of which I had no business
listening to as a kid for Freka. Today latinos are
finally being recognized for the recent that person and handed
on for a great evolution from the romantic style I
(00:51):
find of Minus That's one of my favorite songs. By
the way, artists like Leano de la Persona and My
Soul Persona are succeeding in Spanish R and B and
are translating that sex appeal to Spanish. I love it.
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We always think of R and B as a golden era.
Like reggaeton, R and B has been accused over the
years of dying. How I don't know and has proven
itself over and over as a genre that is stronger
than ever and is sticking around. We know Today I
have a special guest who's going to bring us into
this world the Lami persona persona I'm excited, y'all aren't
(01:32):
ready and a happy Dao featuring a question by one
of you. And we'll wrap it all up with today's
Golgo by the super Producer and the making my homie
the one and only Jeremy Ayala guess behind Tanda what
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aami hent you.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
My girl?
Speaker 3 (02:10):
Im so?
Speaker 1 (02:11):
I mean listen to this.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
It used on Legos or the Requirds and listen into
your mother Been in the the hell onstro singing for.
Speaker 4 (02:28):
The Lock and thro.
Speaker 5 (02:33):
Ca Sa One Look.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
And Zoom Zoom featuring Barassmicana Charlie.
Speaker 4 (02:42):
Arms.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
Her songs are straight bangers, talented people only a key, don't.
This interview was recorded straight from the Clevelander in South Beach, Miami, Florida.
Shout out to them. We spoke about being forced into
boxes as creatives R and B. He trajectory emas.
Speaker 5 (03:15):
Okay so.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
And yes yes friends, so high, Yes, thanks for having
me here with my girlfriend.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
You guys, I love this woman so much, like she's
so talented, so beautiful, honestly a beautiful, just person.
Speaker 4 (03:37):
Thank you too.
Speaker 5 (03:39):
It is banglish, my love. English fine, Okay, so pretty maman?
How are you?
Speaker 4 (03:47):
Oh yeah, almost no voice but the voice that is.
Speaker 5 (03:52):
Yes, that she'd be singing for real, Okay, my love.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
We've known each other for like a couple of years
now at this point, you know, I've been supporting each
other online, you know, showing each other that genuine love
and so I of course know your story.
Speaker 5 (04:08):
But for those who are listening for the first time.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
Tell me about the town where you're from and how
that influences your music.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
You also want to see that man, it's like the
worst name, but it's my city.
Speaker 4 (04:24):
It's like is who's Amico?
Speaker 2 (04:31):
So I'm likej It's called Frontera and it's really small,
but seeing Okay, let's a school percase like sciente the
Caribbean bibe and energy they look at you, okay, influence music,
So the support a musical important com on the so
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per case, I guess the focus on po.
Speaker 4 (05:00):
He is just like designed for tourism.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
I love that.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
I love your story and almus like I am obsessed
with your sound, which of course leans more so on
like the R and B side, which is something that
is you know, growing in the market that people are
still trying to make sense of, which is funny to
me because it exists in angle and it's very clear
is there that it's a good money maker, So talk
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to me about that. Do you feel like you're being
defiant by creating you know, R and B when people
like expect other things like it is that something experienced
in my projective.
Speaker 4 (05:43):
Tanto R and B.
Speaker 5 (05:47):
R and B.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Rmb must assro beat case in uper Employer al kh
regat Popta in my R and B face.
Speaker 4 (06:09):
Our it in documents and.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
It's like my homemade but the minister cool Comtista's Flora
RINOs Aphrob dance Hall him in Perio Spargetti for life
is so fun. R and B per is so mellow,
coming in so many ways. Co aphrobid Opero feels so alive,
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high energy and bibo comical experience.
Speaker 5 (06:44):
It's more fun.
Speaker 4 (06:45):
It's having more fun so.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
Movement and coolica from Romantic and Pa so R and
B simple look core.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
Miki, Yes, I love that. Don't let nobody put you
in a box girl because and you should be heard
in all of the forms.
Speaker 5 (07:12):
So I love that you said that.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
Yeah, yeah, nobody should be put in a box and
music shouldn't even be thought of that way either, So
I appreciate you. But on that side note of like
your music, my favorite song of yours is anti Bellis.
I've been playing it a lot, putting as you're staying
like in the problemost put I love that song. Talk
to me about you know how you create?
Speaker 5 (07:36):
Everybody approaches it differently. How good for you?
Speaker 4 (07:38):
I was scared for I say, it's like a moment
right it makes it going on.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
It's a bitts No, it wasn't as big as it
is now if we got on a BUZZLX and it
also different mixa has its own sound. Yeah, Regaton case
Romantico mas comso alo. I wrote it for my partner disposal,
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so that was super cute too. Family and in my
side from my mom and suicide from his dad is.
Speaker 4 (08:25):
So that was really cute. I I did sure boy,
I did for him com.
Speaker 5 (08:35):
Album.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
And I'm not always talking about other men or other
romantic situations like see, this is something I did for
you to literal, So that was really fun too.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
Will be right back one right after this, and now
we're back like we never left.
Speaker 4 (09:00):
It's part of.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
Vida.
Speaker 4 (09:04):
It was like really organic.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
Pera comtistas professional.
Speaker 4 (09:13):
The bus is a leader of your comfort zone.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
Cause us and meliss I was in my super comfort
zone am Caza, so I always lead to.
Speaker 4 (09:25):
Consume.
Speaker 5 (09:26):
Honestly, I love the backstory.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
I never knew that, of course, and I love that
honestly as you see you you see every time.
Speaker 5 (09:33):
He tells you I'm talking, I will, I will.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
Diversify my selections gantas, and I love the backstory, like,
oh my god, you love I love that, especially in
today's climate. Girl, Oh hold on to that man, because
the options out here are crazy.
Speaker 5 (09:51):
It's crazy here in the streets. You don't want these streets.
Speaker 6 (09:55):
I know.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
I'm very luckymin ship has up. Okay, not everything is perfect.
All relationships are perfect. You go, okay, okay, just miss
amigas mister manas the woman that's around me that hears
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so much stuff.
Speaker 4 (10:17):
Can you do with the kid? This needs a song?
Speaker 2 (10:19):
Yeah, he logoz bat you having my story in your songs.
Speaker 4 (10:27):
It's about.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
Because just now doing an album that I don't know
my specificly coming to me, but it was crazy to
see oh saying okay, I listen to doctor Curison also communities, and.
Speaker 4 (10:43):
I think I'm a really good adviser in love. I'm
always like the girl that they're like, hey girl, this happened.
I'm like, no, girl, you know your power fucking okay.
Speaker 5 (10:55):
Yeah, I got that too. I got that too, and
I love that.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
And honestly, that's sometime I like for you personally, because
one thing you don't shy away from is how you
express yourself, whether it's your ideas or like your ideas
on like sexuality and things of the nature and some
mohmi opened. And that's something that I feel like it
really does take courses and it don't called a hippo
said that's someone, because there's a lot of women who can't,
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first of all, who would love to but can't, who
are not in situations that would allow them to express
themselves and films of like liberally in a way that
you know that's true to who they are.
Speaker 4 (11:32):
So people like you are, are they accessary because you
know you are that further, you know, I try to
be mysterious, like I have. I have tried before. It's
like the King, I don't know you cheese, but she's
like so mysterious and like super sexy.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
Come okay, but no, just come like I'm like noise
and like I can never be just like hey, but
it's a performance.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
The other day we're talking about the other day, we
were talking about, you know, being ourselves on Instagram and like,
you find yourself being a little bit more out there.
Speaker 5 (12:19):
Talk to me about that, because I'm for it, you
know me, But like what is that like?
Speaker 1 (12:24):
And you know, you know, really like what has that
been like for like this it's kind of like policing,
right because they're trying to tell you what to do
with your body.
Speaker 4 (12:33):
Yeah, it's just like I feel like I'm.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
In an era that I've never experienced before. Super common
corpor Like I really never experienced that.
Speaker 7 (12:42):
You know.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
We have a lot of antists and travistas that I
was a really bully kid. I was like really simple
vagino and never ugly dog syndrome. When I have four sisters,
super beautiful. I'm in a healthy journey. I've been like
trying to feel better about myself. Is in okay, I
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don't know if I'm there not cure, be police to myself.
Speaker 6 (13:09):
Just enjoy.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
And obviously I'm feeling more in myself. I want to
beeling more sexy worship that I never did.
Speaker 4 (13:18):
So general be so for me.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
The aura am in the kirostreolo.
Speaker 4 (13:26):
And it's not specifically a specific.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
Only for mel gays like and even if it is
like it should be allowed like okay, but it's not
only for that. It's okay, grament, I feel free for
the first time. I'm just here for it, like I
love it. I like just in Praye Lado, I do work.
I always dance Spunta casino, s pinaser over sexual or
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over sensual.
Speaker 4 (13:55):
I don't know how to explain that it is there
only wife, but I'm like, no, I feel sexy. I'm confident,
I want to do this.
Speaker 5 (14:02):
I'm gonna do it.
Speaker 4 (14:03):
Is not that well un following my bitch.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
Okay, energy exactly exactly quite literally kept so relate like
so many differences, my dear, we do have to wrap up.
But before we do, I wonder if you have any
message for the women who are listening right now, Like
what do you want them to take away from you?
Speaker 4 (14:24):
I'll say, we always have demons, and we'll see eremonial
no positivo. They enjoy the moment like rapido.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
Come, okay, my biggest lesson in life for get no
freem because I always have thought that I had time
later it's okay. In another is partsim toast using Okay,
if you have an issue with someone solved, if you're
feeling bad about doing something as long if you're afraid
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of something, as people from a critic card so don't
think of much about that.
Speaker 6 (15:07):
Just do it.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
And whatever people say, well they're gonna say it anyway,
so that will be my message.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
Wow, okay, and my soul is a problem, but you
heard it straight from her. To wrap up a couple
of the points R and B and is here to stay.
Latin music can do better about celebrating more than one
genre and then movimento at once. The Anglo market does
it and does it well. We don't do things in
moments in Anglo. We do it like simultaneously Jay Z's
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getting a bag, while Cardi B Is getting a bag,
while this person is getting bag, etcetera, etcetera. In the
ports online then we could come her music is out
and available and you guys should check it out. Period
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and if he happened for me. Here's rapid the section
where I answer your burning questions. Yes yours, my listeners.
Speaker 4 (16:07):
Kayla, I'm from Boston.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
I'm a huge fan of R and B in English
and I want to know who are the top three
big girls of R and B and Espanol be married? Kayla,
thank you so much for your question. That is a
really good question, the hard one too. After meditating, I
came to the three. I'm gonna have to go with
Elie Sani right now and of course in my soul
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behind they make sure to submit your questions. Are happy
it will be answered here every single week out Let's
hear from a legendary producer and I'm making I had
the joy of speaking with none other than Jeremy Ayala.
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You may know him as Daddy and Kee Son or whatever,
but he's a platinum award winning producer, creative and a
good friend of mine. ETOs Son Loscos because and someone said,
I am very excited to have this conversation with another
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than Jeremy Ayada and amazing it's a producer.
Speaker 5 (17:14):
Thank you so much for being here with me.
Speaker 7 (17:16):
Thank you for having me.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
Platinum award winning producer that's have a conversation about it,
because you understand something about la right, you understand something
about what it takes to make a hit record.
Speaker 7 (17:29):
First off, Felicias, thank you, Thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
I appreciate that the song we're referring to some more people,
which again I will say it again, platinum.
Speaker 5 (17:38):
Yeah, what does it take? And I'm particularly intrigued because
you know, there are all.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
These different parameters like how long a song is, what
the structure is, you know, and and then on top
of that needing to be creative, Right, how is.
Speaker 5 (17:51):
That process for you?
Speaker 6 (17:52):
What was that like for you?
Speaker 7 (17:53):
I'd say, like each producer has its own formula.
Speaker 6 (17:56):
It's more of the feeling of what you're creating moment
of So when we were creating, I'm going.
Speaker 7 (18:03):
To be out of nal sense that we were like looking.
Speaker 6 (18:06):
For like that kind of sad but a bee kind
of vibe that it translates different to what the normal
sad like slow reggaeton or danceholl kind of vibe. So
it's just more basically going through the feeling of what
you're creating at that moment and just flowing and going
with the flow of what you're creating and let your
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creativity guide you throughout the whole process.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
That's why, that's why would you consider yourself to be
a melody king, because I wouldn't.
Speaker 6 (18:41):
For that.
Speaker 5 (18:41):
Like I'm not trying to be normatic, but the amlodies
the were the thank you? You know, what was your
process with that? You said it? You know great? Every
producer has their way, like what was your way in
that song? Particularly?
Speaker 6 (18:52):
I mean, I'm just the most important thing for me
when I'm producing is a sound selection, like I'll take
hours just make sure that I'm complimenting the right elements
with each other, and each layer is like it correlates
and they work in harmony all together. So for me,
it's more of a sound selection and maybe creating like
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counter melodies here and there to give it a more
like flavor at this part and ear candy of this part.
Speaker 7 (19:18):
So it's just more like compliment to sound selection with
the melodies.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
I'm happy to s been going through because you know,
we can combat these stereotypes of hagathone together.
Speaker 5 (19:29):
One of the worst I always hear of is like
all hared tone sounds.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
The same people who say that they don't know phone,
we know what people who say, oh, it's so easy
to make a hegathone.
Speaker 5 (19:38):
People who say that don't know what it's like. Open
up on them. You see six different layers.
Speaker 6 (19:43):
Yeah, you see like seven drones stacked together, four melodies
doing the same thing.
Speaker 7 (19:51):
But they don't understand that they're working together to make
it sound full.
Speaker 6 (19:54):
There's a side note here, like there's so much things
that go into it that it's not like drag and
drop a sample and the.
Speaker 7 (20:02):
Reggaeton sound stope. No, you got to make it sound good.
Speaker 5 (20:05):
And the switch ups.
Speaker 6 (20:07):
Yeah, yeah, even more nowadays, Like you go like half
of a song with a certain beat and then there's
a whole switch up that just out of the blue,
catches your moment and then translate to a whole different thing.
Speaker 7 (20:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (20:20):
So people say making reggaeton it's easy, it's not. I'd
say it's pretty hard because nowadays listeners are more picky
with what they want to hear and what, you know,
what songs are going to be, these songs feel me.
So it is nowadays is a little bit more and
more harder to create those transcending all time reggaeton tracks.
Speaker 5 (20:41):
Absolutely putting a little bit.
Speaker 7 (20:45):
Yeah, I would love to know.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
Like if you had to tell a young producer who's
like love rhone, they want to get into the space,
they want to create, they want to be the NICT
platinum producer that I don't call it go like what
is a piece of advice that you do follow that
takes through the distance?
Speaker 5 (21:01):
You know?
Speaker 6 (21:01):
I would say, like just focus more on like making
sure that everything sounds full, like mixing is there, that
everything sounds.
Speaker 7 (21:10):
Well together, all glue together, like everything is.
Speaker 6 (21:14):
For me in terms of when I'm producing my I'm
attacking more as a mixing standpoint, like making sure that
this sound is gonna make this kind of like effect
here and there, and making sure that the drums like
all sound cohesive.
Speaker 7 (21:27):
So for me, I would say mixing, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 5 (21:30):
And going back to I'm gonna plan, just tell me
the story, like how did it come about? Did you
have to be first?
Speaker 2 (21:38):
Did you know?
Speaker 5 (21:39):
Was it a creative collective process?
Speaker 7 (21:41):
Yeah, it was a story.
Speaker 6 (21:43):
It was a creative process with Maka and Felix Alada.
So we were in the studio and uh, Felix.
Speaker 7 (21:51):
I think had I think I had a guitar like
it had the dun and then we were like oh that's.
Speaker 8 (21:57):
That's nice, and steeping off of that and Philix started
playing some other things me and making We're making the
Respace and everything just came together like it was just
magical in the moment.
Speaker 7 (22:11):
It was like everything that we threw on it was
like it goes. We had caught up anything or anything
like that, it just went through.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
Oh my god, I love that feel like he's yeah, yes,
I love a lot of products.
Speaker 7 (22:25):
Yeah, that doesn't make it as well. It's my brother too, definitely.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
As a producer yourself, what are you most proud of?
Like in this space, like what does it mean to
create music?
Speaker 7 (22:35):
You know, the thing that I'd say I'm most proud
of is like my evolution itself.
Speaker 6 (22:40):
Like I remember starting on twenty sixteen, Like looking back
to my first beat, I was like, damn, Like I
have come a long way since the first day that
I started.
Speaker 7 (22:50):
So I say the most thing that I'm proud of
is my.
Speaker 6 (22:53):
Evolution, my my process through the whole industry, Like it's
been it's been hard, but I thank God that it's
been hard because I learned a lot of things through.
Speaker 7 (23:03):
The way and through my past. So I'd say that
I'm just very very proud of myself.
Speaker 6 (23:09):
Or keeping it going and non you know, let it
go downwards, always pushing forwards.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
If I had to guess, like, I would like know,
you know, knowing of who you are, right that you
would go into the music in some sort of format.
Speaker 5 (23:26):
Right, So what spart you to go into production specifically?
Speaker 1 (23:30):
Like why not over like songwriting or even managing or
even singing?
Speaker 5 (23:36):
Like why production specifically?
Speaker 7 (23:37):
I mean I've always been.
Speaker 6 (23:39):
Like since I started listening to rap music such as
jac That the Black Album and Whatnot. I think that
was the one of the albums that got me in
like into production because I would hear the beats and
hearing some songs from just being Timberlake as well, like
Crime mea River.
Speaker 7 (23:55):
I'd be like, how these people make this?
Speaker 6 (23:58):
Like this is so awesome, Like these sounds and these
pockets here and there are so so well thought. I
was like so intriguing to I gotta know the process
and I gotta do this. So I'd say, just by
listening to music, I was like, man, this is awful.
I want to be part of it.
Speaker 5 (24:15):
And where are you from? Where are you from? No,
you're from? I want to say it against the beautiful islands.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
You're creating music from this beautiful island that some are
just beautiful island.
Speaker 5 (24:32):
Like, what does that mean to you? Because you're leaving
your stamp on the culture of your heritage.
Speaker 6 (24:37):
Yeah, I'm super proud and honored to be part of
something that most of the people, or I say most
of the artists from Puerto Rico brought up together. For
me as a it's a privilege to be part of
such amazing minds and talents and artists and songwriters and producers.
That is crazy to me that I get to be
a part of this and add to the culture as
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well and start and.
Speaker 7 (25:00):
Leaving my legacy. For me, it's I'm in awe.
Speaker 5 (25:04):
It's I really want to know if you can tell
me a story of like how you put.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
Yourself on right, because you've had to combat a lot
as well to get the respect that you deserve.
Speaker 5 (25:17):
Right, you worked hard, you made like you made you
made this, you know. Yeah, So if you can tell
me a story like how have you put yourself on?
Speaker 6 (25:29):
I mean i'd say reading, like I read a lot
about like how to make your drums sound better, how
to make everything sound more cohesaid, learning a little bit
more about sound signed to create different towns.
Speaker 7 (25:44):
So I'd say reading.
Speaker 6 (25:45):
I'm mostly reading and watching and seeing a lot of
videos on YouTube that just helps me get into different
things that other people are not.
Speaker 7 (25:54):
So i'd say read a lot, watching a lot of things.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
In other words, you've done your research, yes, like you,
it was very important for you to be intentional understanding
the mechanics of like what actually works.
Speaker 7 (26:08):
Yes.
Speaker 6 (26:10):
One of the things that I did to make sure
that I was making sure that I knew everything. I
studied on full Sell University, so I graduated from there
from recording arts, so I can learn even more. I
didn't want to come into the industry just because I
wanted to come into the industry with a full knowledge
of what it takes to make a good track, good record.
Speaker 7 (26:31):
So I really do my research a lot.
Speaker 6 (26:34):
And what's next, kid making awesome, awesome records and start
like building my own thing in the future of my
own album.
Speaker 5 (26:45):
Okay, I love that. I love that I was looking at.
Speaker 7 (26:50):
Yeah, keeping it a little bit under the reps, but yeah,
definitely my album.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
I'm about this out there because I'm a nerve for
a second phone and I like how you know, in
culture we're seeing like a lot of throwback Thursday elements,
like people are putting in samples, right, you know, of
older songs or whatever. And the word mixtape has been
circulating a lot more in recent.
Speaker 4 (27:11):
Times, but.
Speaker 5 (27:15):
Like I don't see like a lot of mixtape products.
Speaker 6 (27:19):
Yeah, like various artists kind of being Yeah, Like I
remember I put in the CD with my grandpa when
we go to my basketball practices, and it was just
like a whole different tell me what you got, you know.
Speaker 5 (27:33):
Because that's actually that's the legacy of one of dance hall,
right from Jamaican.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
Yeah, and so you know in Jamaica, when you know
these Jamaica producers would create a sound, they were like okay,
you you you and you we have like different songs
in Jamaican, but ones that like it's the same beat
but different people spitting on it.
Speaker 5 (27:57):
Because it's kind of it's like a.
Speaker 6 (27:58):
Cultural like you only hear transition of the CB and
and the other artist artists or sometimes you don't even hear.
Speaker 5 (28:03):
It anyway, is not just someone else.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
Yeah, yeah, and so I love that because that as
we don't know, but you know, including dancehall, right, and
so in which case, like that's is at the heart
of the spirit of this music as well. So when,
of course technology lime wire right, I thought streaming now right,
(28:27):
it took away like the physical aspect of music. I
miss lighting up to get CDs.
Speaker 6 (28:34):
I mean it was it was mainly that part of
that era that was like, man, we got one CD.
We gotta make everything, Like everyone come through. We want
to cut this record. So it's like hop in, get
in the trap and just let it blow.
Speaker 4 (28:46):
So yeah, yeah, so.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
I'm gonna put that out there. You say you're gonna
potentially there when I saw you, because it'd be cool
to see you curate.
Speaker 7 (28:56):
Yeah, gotta be that. That is a dope idea that
like bring back some old times too.
Speaker 5 (29:05):
You're first here, You're first here.
Speaker 1 (29:16):
Wow. Okay, Jeremy is sum and the future and the
best of reaton. I'm holding on to what it takes
to differentiate yourself as a creative today, versatility as being
the future of the hand ital and it being okay
to like stand on your own light instead of doing
what everyone else is doing. That those are my three
takeaways from this interview. Jeremy freaking killed it. Shout out
(29:38):
to you, Jeremy gala, much love in much respect, like
I'm so excited to see what you do next, wearing
on my hands almost don't let your wet meat analysis. Okay,
come on your other hands. Like Ema Sol is a powerhouse.
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As a fan, I've enjoyed listening to her music and
watching her evolution before my very eyes, because in my opinion,
there's something about a black girl capturing the rhythm and
blues essence in Spanish that is particularly special because there
is soul. Remember this music when it was first introduced
to the world, had the power to capture the spread
(30:22):
of the people, specifically African American people. I think that
that's its influencing power on rock and roll, like in
my opinion, and nowadays specifically after experience. And I don't
care how nerdy I sam right now as I'm being
a fallon as it celebrated, like that's what's important here, Okay.
Side note, little story. When I first met Jeremy, it
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was actually with his lovely wife Andrea, and to my surprise,
he knew who I was. He was fascinated that I
was a Raaton historian and like bro, he knew my
work like that Inky Sun, let me tell ya something
I had to like, chill out. I was freaking out.
I was like, oh my god, no big deal, like,
no big deal, like bro. I was losing it. And
(31:08):
that was easy because never mind the fact that he's
the white son, Jeremy is a power house all by himself.
You hear me, like a platinum award winning producer. You
can't buy plaques, Okay, you can't buy plaques. The validation
comes from the people listening to the music. More importantly,
as he heard in the interview, process matters, and I
(31:29):
really like I'm a nerd or like, oh say, I
get obsessed with people who are obsessed with their process, Like, yes,
be diligent, be one with your process. I think that's
beautiful and I think that's what truly separates people from
one to the other, right hinano. And so I just
really appreciate his uniqueness.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
You know.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
It's something that I definitely agree with the sum total
of the small decisions that are being made to make
you you you know, and when it goes okay yo
yamo is like who you want to be as an artist,
As Jeremy put it, ignoring the trends hitting right now
because they won't be relevant in a few months right,
and most importantly focusing on being timeless and using history
(32:14):
to try to help you determine how to go about it.
I wish more people thought that way, because the truth
is chasing trends. Yes, it's a trend in Latin music, Like,
let's do the trend. I get it, But like, I
think that's one of, if not our biggest flaw. Like
it's the reason why a huge chunk of songs, not all,
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but huge chunk of songs being produced today can't stand
next to Mayo Giggle or Gasolina or Rakata or any
time this classic from the two thousands that defines a genre.
And last thing I'll say is an need y'all producers
to start diversifying these producer fruity lupaks. Everybody can be bad, bunny,
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I love with all my heart and soul, and I'll
be lying if I didn't say that. In recent years,
I've been feeling like a lot of reggat been sounding
the same, Like a lot of the drum patterns, even
some of the melodies. It's like in the same ballpark.
I'm like, bro, like, please versify these packs, Like everybody
(33:17):
shouldn't sound the same there's so much to be explored, like,
oh my god, oh my god, I'm gonna stop there.
That's all the times that we have today. Make sure
to follow on socials and subscribe everywhere and follow on
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produced herself from shik it Easy Media. Our producer is
Grace Gonsalez, our engineer is Habby Vibes, and the show
(34:05):
is edited by Sebastian Fayan And another shout out to
the Cleveland in Miami Beach. My people, I'm your host,
La Gata. See you next week right here on the
iHeartRadio app chow
I love R and B. It's one of the most
powerful genres in the market. Next two hip hop, let's
be real. Inspired by jazz, funk, but especially blues. It's
a genre that allows itself to like be expressed lyrically
in a very vulnerable way, and I connect with fans
in a very emotional way. And it's beautiful. And as
a girl who grew up in the hood, I appreciate
that shion I grew up listening to Mary J. Blige,
(00:28):
Jenuine Usher, TLC, but especially like Aliah singing my heart
out to songs many of which I had no business
listening to as a kid for Freka. Today latinos are
finally being recognized for the recent that person and handed
on for a great evolution from the romantic style I
(00:51):
find of Minus That's one of my favorite songs. By
the way, artists like Leano de la Persona and My
Soul Persona are succeeding in Spanish R and B and
are translating that sex appeal to Spanish. I love it.
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We always think of R and B as a golden era.
Like reggaeton, R and B has been accused over the
years of dying. How I don't know and has proven
itself over and over as a genre that is stronger
than ever and is sticking around. We know Today I
have a special guest who's going to bring us into
this world the Lami persona persona I'm excited, y'all aren't
(01:32):
ready and a happy Dao featuring a question by one
of you. And we'll wrap it all up with today's
Golgo by the super Producer and the making my homie
the one and only Jeremy Ayala guess behind Tanda what
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aami hent you.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
My girl?
Speaker 3 (02:10):
Im so?
Speaker 1 (02:11):
I mean listen to this.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
It used on Legos or the Requirds and listen into
your mother Been in the the hell onstro singing for.
Speaker 4 (02:28):
The Lock and thro.
Speaker 5 (02:33):
Ca Sa One Look.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
And Zoom Zoom featuring Barassmicana Charlie.
Speaker 4 (02:42):
Arms.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
Her songs are straight bangers, talented people only a key, don't.
This interview was recorded straight from the Clevelander in South Beach, Miami, Florida.
Shout out to them. We spoke about being forced into
boxes as creatives R and B. He trajectory emas.
Speaker 5 (03:15):
Okay so.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
And yes yes friends, so high, Yes, thanks for having
me here with my girlfriend.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
You guys, I love this woman so much, like she's
so talented, so beautiful, honestly a beautiful, just person.
Speaker 4 (03:37):
Thank you too.
Speaker 5 (03:39):
It is banglish, my love. English fine, Okay, so pretty maman?
How are you?
Speaker 4 (03:47):
Oh yeah, almost no voice but the voice that is.
Speaker 5 (03:52):
Yes, that she'd be singing for real, Okay, my love.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
We've known each other for like a couple of years
now at this point, you know, I've been supporting each
other online, you know, showing each other that genuine love
and so I of course know your story.
Speaker 5 (04:08):
But for those who are listening for the first time.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
Tell me about the town where you're from and how
that influences your music.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
You also want to see that man, it's like the
worst name, but it's my city.
Speaker 4 (04:24):
It's like is who's Amico?
Speaker 2 (04:31):
So I'm likej It's called Frontera and it's really small,
but seeing Okay, let's a school percase like sciente the
Caribbean bibe and energy they look at you, okay, influence music,
So the support a musical important com on the so
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per case, I guess the focus on po.
Speaker 4 (05:00):
He is just like designed for tourism.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
I love that.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
I love your story and almus like I am obsessed
with your sound, which of course leans more so on
like the R and B side, which is something that
is you know, growing in the market that people are
still trying to make sense of, which is funny to
me because it exists in angle and it's very clear
is there that it's a good money maker, So talk
(05:31):
to me about that. Do you feel like you're being
defiant by creating you know, R and B when people
like expect other things like it is that something experienced
in my projective.
Speaker 4 (05:43):
Tanto R and B.
Speaker 5 (05:47):
R and B.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Rmb must assro beat case in uper Employer al kh
regat Popta in my R and B face.
Speaker 4 (06:09):
Our it in documents and.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
It's like my homemade but the minister cool Comtista's Flora
RINOs Aphrob dance Hall him in Perio Spargetti for life
is so fun. R and B per is so mellow,
coming in so many ways. Co aphrobid Opero feels so alive,
(06:40):
high energy and bibo comical experience.
Speaker 5 (06:44):
It's more fun.
Speaker 4 (06:45):
It's having more fun so.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
Movement and coolica from Romantic and Pa so R and
B simple look core.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
Miki, Yes, I love that. Don't let nobody put you
in a box girl because and you should be heard
in all of the forms.
Speaker 5 (07:12):
So I love that you said that.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
Yeah, yeah, nobody should be put in a box and
music shouldn't even be thought of that way either, So
I appreciate you. But on that side note of like
your music, my favorite song of yours is anti Bellis.
I've been playing it a lot, putting as you're staying
like in the problemost put I love that song. Talk
to me about you know how you create?
Speaker 5 (07:36):
Everybody approaches it differently. How good for you?
Speaker 4 (07:38):
I was scared for I say, it's like a moment
right it makes it going on.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
It's a bitts No, it wasn't as big as it
is now if we got on a BUZZLX and it
also different mixa has its own sound. Yeah, Regaton case
Romantico mas comso alo. I wrote it for my partner disposal,
(08:12):
so that was super cute too. Family and in my
side from my mom and suicide from his dad is.
Speaker 4 (08:25):
So that was really cute. I I did sure boy,
I did for him com.
Speaker 5 (08:35):
Album.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
And I'm not always talking about other men or other
romantic situations like see, this is something I did for
you to literal, So that was really fun too.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
Will be right back one right after this, and now
we're back like we never left.
Speaker 4 (09:00):
It's part of.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
Vida.
Speaker 4 (09:04):
It was like really organic.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
Pera comtistas professional.
Speaker 4 (09:13):
The bus is a leader of your comfort zone.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
Cause us and meliss I was in my super comfort
zone am Caza, so I always lead to.
Speaker 4 (09:25):
Consume.
Speaker 5 (09:26):
Honestly, I love the backstory.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
I never knew that, of course, and I love that
honestly as you see you you see every time.
Speaker 5 (09:33):
He tells you I'm talking, I will, I will.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
Diversify my selections gantas, and I love the backstory, like,
oh my god, you love I love that, especially in
today's climate. Girl, Oh hold on to that man, because
the options out here are crazy.
Speaker 5 (09:51):
It's crazy here in the streets. You don't want these streets.
Speaker 6 (09:55):
I know.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
I'm very luckymin ship has up. Okay, not everything is perfect.
All relationships are perfect. You go, okay, okay, just miss
amigas mister manas the woman that's around me that hears
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so much stuff.
Speaker 4 (10:17):
Can you do with the kid? This needs a song?
Speaker 2 (10:19):
Yeah, he logoz bat you having my story in your songs.
Speaker 4 (10:27):
It's about.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
Because just now doing an album that I don't know
my specificly coming to me, but it was crazy to
see oh saying okay, I listen to doctor Curison also communities, and.
Speaker 4 (10:43):
I think I'm a really good adviser in love. I'm
always like the girl that they're like, hey girl, this happened.
I'm like, no, girl, you know your power fucking okay.
Speaker 5 (10:55):
Yeah, I got that too. I got that too, and
I love that.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
And honestly, that's sometime I like for you personally, because
one thing you don't shy away from is how you
express yourself, whether it's your ideas or like your ideas
on like sexuality and things of the nature and some
mohmi opened. And that's something that I feel like it
really does take courses and it don't called a hippo
said that's someone, because there's a lot of women who can't,
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first of all, who would love to but can't, who
are not in situations that would allow them to express
themselves and films of like liberally in a way that
you know that's true to who they are.
Speaker 4 (11:32):
So people like you are, are they accessary because you
know you are that further, you know, I try to
be mysterious, like I have. I have tried before. It's
like the King, I don't know you cheese, but she's
like so mysterious and like super sexy.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
Come okay, but no, just come like I'm like noise
and like I can never be just like hey, but
it's a performance.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
The other day we're talking about the other day, we
were talking about, you know, being ourselves on Instagram and like,
you find yourself being a little bit more out there.
Speaker 5 (12:19):
Talk to me about that, because I'm for it, you
know me, But like what is that like?
Speaker 1 (12:24):
And you know, you know, really like what has that
been like for like this it's kind of like policing,
right because they're trying to tell you what to do
with your body.
Speaker 4 (12:33):
Yeah, it's just like I feel like I'm.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
In an era that I've never experienced before. Super common
corpor Like I really never experienced that.
Speaker 7 (12:42):
You know.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
We have a lot of antists and travistas that I
was a really bully kid. I was like really simple
vagino and never ugly dog syndrome. When I have four sisters,
super beautiful. I'm in a healthy journey. I've been like
trying to feel better about myself. Is in okay, I
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don't know if I'm there not cure, be police to myself.
Speaker 6 (13:09):
Just enjoy.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
And obviously I'm feeling more in myself. I want to
beeling more sexy worship that I never did.
Speaker 4 (13:18):
So general be so for me.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
The aura am in the kirostreolo.
Speaker 4 (13:26):
And it's not specifically a specific.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
Only for mel gays like and even if it is
like it should be allowed like okay, but it's not
only for that. It's okay, grament, I feel free for
the first time. I'm just here for it, like I
love it. I like just in Praye Lado, I do work.
I always dance Spunta casino, s pinaser over sexual or
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over sensual.
Speaker 4 (13:55):
I don't know how to explain that it is there
only wife, but I'm like, no, I feel sexy. I'm confident,
I want to do this.
Speaker 5 (14:02):
I'm gonna do it.
Speaker 4 (14:03):
Is not that well un following my bitch.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
Okay, energy exactly exactly quite literally kept so relate like
so many differences, my dear, we do have to wrap up.
But before we do, I wonder if you have any
message for the women who are listening right now, Like
what do you want them to take away from you?
Speaker 4 (14:24):
I'll say, we always have demons, and we'll see eremonial
no positivo. They enjoy the moment like rapido.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
Come, okay, my biggest lesson in life for get no
freem because I always have thought that I had time
later it's okay. In another is partsim toast using Okay,
if you have an issue with someone solved, if you're
feeling bad about doing something as long if you're afraid
(15:00):
of something, as people from a critic card so don't
think of much about that.
Speaker 6 (15:07):
Just do it.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
And whatever people say, well they're gonna say it anyway,
so that will be my message.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
Wow, okay, and my soul is a problem, but you
heard it straight from her. To wrap up a couple
of the points R and B and is here to stay.
Latin music can do better about celebrating more than one
genre and then movimento at once. The Anglo market does
it and does it well. We don't do things in
moments in Anglo. We do it like simultaneously Jay Z's
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getting a bag, while Cardi B Is getting a bag,
while this person is getting bag, etcetera, etcetera. In the
ports online then we could come her music is out
and available and you guys should check it out. Period
(16:00):
and if he happened for me. Here's rapid the section
where I answer your burning questions. Yes yours, my listeners.
Speaker 4 (16:07):
Kayla, I'm from Boston.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
I'm a huge fan of R and B in English
and I want to know who are the top three
big girls of R and B and Espanol be married? Kayla,
thank you so much for your question. That is a
really good question, the hard one too. After meditating, I
came to the three. I'm gonna have to go with
Elie Sani right now and of course in my soul
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behind they make sure to submit your questions. Are happy
it will be answered here every single week out Let's
hear from a legendary producer and I'm making I had
the joy of speaking with none other than Jeremy Ayala.
(16:50):
You may know him as Daddy and Kee Son or whatever,
but he's a platinum award winning producer, creative and a
good friend of mine. ETOs Son Loscos because and someone said,
I am very excited to have this conversation with another
(17:11):
than Jeremy Ayada and amazing it's a producer.
Speaker 5 (17:14):
Thank you so much for being here with me.
Speaker 7 (17:16):
Thank you for having me.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
Platinum award winning producer that's have a conversation about it,
because you understand something about la right, you understand something
about what it takes to make a hit record.
Speaker 7 (17:29):
First off, Felicias, thank you, Thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
I appreciate that the song we're referring to some more people,
which again I will say it again, platinum.
Speaker 5 (17:38):
Yeah, what does it take? And I'm particularly intrigued because
you know, there are all.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
These different parameters like how long a song is, what
the structure is, you know, and and then on top
of that needing to be creative, Right, how is.
Speaker 5 (17:51):
That process for you?
Speaker 6 (17:52):
What was that like for you?
Speaker 7 (17:53):
I'd say, like each producer has its own formula.
Speaker 6 (17:56):
It's more of the feeling of what you're creating moment
of So when we were creating, I'm going.
Speaker 7 (18:03):
To be out of nal sense that we were like looking.
Speaker 6 (18:06):
For like that kind of sad but a bee kind
of vibe that it translates different to what the normal
sad like slow reggaeton or danceholl kind of vibe. So
it's just more basically going through the feeling of what
you're creating at that moment and just flowing and going
with the flow of what you're creating and let your
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creativity guide you throughout the whole process.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
That's why, that's why would you consider yourself to be
a melody king, because I wouldn't.
Speaker 6 (18:41):
For that.
Speaker 5 (18:41):
Like I'm not trying to be normatic, but the amlodies
the were the thank you? You know, what was your
process with that? You said it? You know great? Every
producer has their way, like what was your way in
that song? Particularly?
Speaker 6 (18:52):
I mean, I'm just the most important thing for me
when I'm producing is a sound selection, like I'll take
hours just make sure that I'm complimenting the right elements
with each other, and each layer is like it correlates
and they work in harmony all together. So for me,
it's more of a sound selection and maybe creating like
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counter melodies here and there to give it a more
like flavor at this part and ear candy of this part.
Speaker 7 (19:18):
So it's just more like compliment to sound selection with
the melodies.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
I'm happy to s been going through because you know,
we can combat these stereotypes of hagathone together.
Speaker 5 (19:29):
One of the worst I always hear of is like
all hared tone sounds.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
The same people who say that they don't know phone,
we know what people who say, oh, it's so easy
to make a hegathone.
Speaker 5 (19:38):
People who say that don't know what it's like. Open
up on them. You see six different layers.
Speaker 6 (19:43):
Yeah, you see like seven drones stacked together, four melodies
doing the same thing.
Speaker 7 (19:51):
But they don't understand that they're working together to make
it sound full.
Speaker 6 (19:54):
There's a side note here, like there's so much things
that go into it that it's not like drag and
drop a sample and the.
Speaker 7 (20:02):
Reggaeton sound stope. No, you got to make it sound good.
Speaker 5 (20:05):
And the switch ups.
Speaker 6 (20:07):
Yeah, yeah, even more nowadays, Like you go like half
of a song with a certain beat and then there's
a whole switch up that just out of the blue,
catches your moment and then translate to a whole different thing.
Speaker 7 (20:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (20:20):
So people say making reggaeton it's easy, it's not. I'd
say it's pretty hard because nowadays listeners are more picky
with what they want to hear and what, you know,
what songs are going to be, these songs feel me.
So it is nowadays is a little bit more and
more harder to create those transcending all time reggaeton tracks.
Speaker 5 (20:41):
Absolutely putting a little bit.
Speaker 7 (20:45):
Yeah, I would love to know.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
Like if you had to tell a young producer who's
like love rhone, they want to get into the space,
they want to create, they want to be the NICT
platinum producer that I don't call it go like what
is a piece of advice that you do follow that
takes through the distance?
Speaker 5 (21:01):
You know?
Speaker 6 (21:01):
I would say, like just focus more on like making
sure that everything sounds full, like mixing is there, that
everything sounds.
Speaker 7 (21:10):
Well together, all glue together, like everything is.
Speaker 6 (21:14):
For me in terms of when I'm producing my I'm
attacking more as a mixing standpoint, like making sure that
this sound is gonna make this kind of like effect
here and there, and making sure that the drums like
all sound cohesive.
Speaker 7 (21:27):
So for me, I would say mixing, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 5 (21:30):
And going back to I'm gonna plan, just tell me
the story, like how did it come about? Did you
have to be first?
Speaker 2 (21:38):
Did you know?
Speaker 5 (21:39):
Was it a creative collective process?
Speaker 7 (21:41):
Yeah, it was a story.
Speaker 6 (21:43):
It was a creative process with Maka and Felix Alada.
So we were in the studio and uh, Felix.
Speaker 7 (21:51):
I think had I think I had a guitar like
it had the dun and then we were like oh that's.
Speaker 8 (21:57):
That's nice, and steeping off of that and Philix started
playing some other things me and making We're making the
Respace and everything just came together like it was just
magical in the moment.
Speaker 7 (22:11):
It was like everything that we threw on it was
like it goes. We had caught up anything or anything
like that, it just went through.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
Oh my god, I love that feel like he's yeah, yes,
I love a lot of products.
Speaker 7 (22:25):
Yeah, that doesn't make it as well. It's my brother too, definitely.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
As a producer yourself, what are you most proud of?
Like in this space, like what does it mean to
create music?
Speaker 7 (22:35):
You know, the thing that I'd say I'm most proud
of is like my evolution itself.
Speaker 6 (22:40):
Like I remember starting on twenty sixteen, Like looking back
to my first beat, I was like, damn, Like I
have come a long way since the first day that
I started.
Speaker 7 (22:50):
So I say the most thing that I'm proud of
is my.
Speaker 6 (22:53):
Evolution, my my process through the whole industry, Like it's
been it's been hard, but I thank God that it's
been hard because I learned a lot of things through.
Speaker 7 (23:03):
The way and through my past. So I'd say that
I'm just very very proud of myself.
Speaker 6 (23:09):
Or keeping it going and non you know, let it
go downwards, always pushing forwards.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
If I had to guess, like, I would like know,
you know, knowing of who you are, right that you
would go into the music in some sort of format.
Speaker 5 (23:26):
Right, So what spart you to go into production specifically?
Speaker 1 (23:30):
Like why not over like songwriting or even managing or
even singing?
Speaker 5 (23:36):
Like why production specifically?
Speaker 7 (23:37):
I mean I've always been.
Speaker 6 (23:39):
Like since I started listening to rap music such as
jac That the Black Album and Whatnot. I think that
was the one of the albums that got me in
like into production because I would hear the beats and
hearing some songs from just being Timberlake as well, like
Crime mea River.
Speaker 7 (23:55):
I'd be like, how these people make this?
Speaker 6 (23:58):
Like this is so awesome, Like these sounds and these
pockets here and there are so so well thought. I
was like so intriguing to I gotta know the process
and I gotta do this. So I'd say, just by
listening to music, I was like, man, this is awful.
I want to be part of it.
Speaker 5 (24:15):
And where are you from? Where are you from? No,
you're from? I want to say it against the beautiful islands.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
You're creating music from this beautiful island that some are
just beautiful island.
Speaker 5 (24:32):
Like, what does that mean to you? Because you're leaving
your stamp on the culture of your heritage.
Speaker 6 (24:37):
Yeah, I'm super proud and honored to be part of
something that most of the people, or I say most
of the artists from Puerto Rico brought up together. For
me as a it's a privilege to be part of
such amazing minds and talents and artists and songwriters and producers.
That is crazy to me that I get to be
a part of this and add to the culture as
(24:59):
well and start and.
Speaker 7 (25:00):
Leaving my legacy. For me, it's I'm in awe.
Speaker 5 (25:04):
It's I really want to know if you can tell
me a story of like how you put.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
Yourself on right, because you've had to combat a lot
as well to get the respect that you deserve.
Speaker 5 (25:17):
Right, you worked hard, you made like you made you
made this, you know. Yeah, So if you can tell
me a story like how have you put yourself on?
Speaker 6 (25:29):
I mean i'd say reading, like I read a lot
about like how to make your drums sound better, how
to make everything sound more cohesaid, learning a little bit
more about sound signed to create different towns.
Speaker 7 (25:44):
So I'd say reading.
Speaker 6 (25:45):
I'm mostly reading and watching and seeing a lot of
videos on YouTube that just helps me get into different
things that other people are not.
Speaker 7 (25:54):
So i'd say read a lot, watching a lot of things.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
In other words, you've done your research, yes, like you,
it was very important for you to be intentional understanding
the mechanics of like what actually works.
Speaker 7 (26:08):
Yes.
Speaker 6 (26:10):
One of the things that I did to make sure
that I was making sure that I knew everything. I
studied on full Sell University, so I graduated from there
from recording arts, so I can learn even more. I
didn't want to come into the industry just because I
wanted to come into the industry with a full knowledge
of what it takes to make a good track, good record.
Speaker 7 (26:31):
So I really do my research a lot.
Speaker 6 (26:34):
And what's next, kid making awesome, awesome records and start
like building my own thing in the future of my
own album.
Speaker 5 (26:45):
Okay, I love that. I love that I was looking at.
Speaker 7 (26:50):
Yeah, keeping it a little bit under the reps, but yeah,
definitely my album.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
I'm about this out there because I'm a nerve for
a second phone and I like how you know, in
culture we're seeing like a lot of throwback Thursday elements,
like people are putting in samples, right, you know, of
older songs or whatever. And the word mixtape has been
circulating a lot more in recent.
Speaker 4 (27:11):
Times, but.
Speaker 5 (27:15):
Like I don't see like a lot of mixtape products.
Speaker 6 (27:19):
Yeah, like various artists kind of being Yeah, Like I
remember I put in the CD with my grandpa when
we go to my basketball practices, and it was just
like a whole different tell me what you got, you know.
Speaker 5 (27:33):
Because that's actually that's the legacy of one of dance hall,
right from Jamaican.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
Yeah, and so you know in Jamaica, when you know
these Jamaica producers would create a sound, they were like okay,
you you you and you we have like different songs
in Jamaican, but ones that like it's the same beat
but different people spitting on it.
Speaker 5 (27:57):
Because it's kind of it's like a.
Speaker 6 (27:58):
Cultural like you only hear transition of the CB and
and the other artist artists or sometimes you don't even hear.
Speaker 5 (28:03):
It anyway, is not just someone else.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
Yeah, yeah, and so I love that because that as
we don't know, but you know, including dancehall, right, and
so in which case, like that's is at the heart
of the spirit of this music as well. So when,
of course technology lime wire right, I thought streaming now right,
(28:27):
it took away like the physical aspect of music. I
miss lighting up to get CDs.
Speaker 6 (28:34):
I mean it was it was mainly that part of
that era that was like, man, we got one CD.
We gotta make everything, Like everyone come through. We want
to cut this record. So it's like hop in, get
in the trap and just let it blow.
Speaker 4 (28:46):
So yeah, yeah, so.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
I'm gonna put that out there. You say you're gonna
potentially there when I saw you, because it'd be cool
to see you curate.
Speaker 7 (28:56):
Yeah, gotta be that. That is a dope idea that
like bring back some old times too.
Speaker 5 (29:05):
You're first here, You're first here.
Speaker 1 (29:16):
Wow. Okay, Jeremy is sum and the future and the
best of reaton. I'm holding on to what it takes
to differentiate yourself as a creative today, versatility as being
the future of the hand ital and it being okay
to like stand on your own light instead of doing
what everyone else is doing. That those are my three
takeaways from this interview. Jeremy freaking killed it. Shout out
(29:38):
to you, Jeremy gala, much love in much respect, like
I'm so excited to see what you do next, wearing
on my hands almost don't let your wet meat analysis. Okay,
come on your other hands. Like Ema Sol is a powerhouse.
(30:02):
As a fan, I've enjoyed listening to her music and
watching her evolution before my very eyes, because in my opinion,
there's something about a black girl capturing the rhythm and
blues essence in Spanish that is particularly special because there
is soul. Remember this music when it was first introduced
to the world, had the power to capture the spread
(30:22):
of the people, specifically African American people. I think that
that's its influencing power on rock and roll, like in
my opinion, and nowadays specifically after experience. And I don't
care how nerdy I sam right now as I'm being
a fallon as it celebrated, like that's what's important here, Okay.
Side note, little story. When I first met Jeremy, it
(30:44):
was actually with his lovely wife Andrea, and to my surprise,
he knew who I was. He was fascinated that I
was a Raaton historian and like bro, he knew my
work like that Inky Sun, let me tell ya something
I had to like, chill out. I was freaking out.
I was like, oh my god, no big deal, like,
no big deal, like bro. I was losing it. And
(31:08):
that was easy because never mind the fact that he's
the white son, Jeremy is a power house all by himself.
You hear me, like a platinum award winning producer. You
can't buy plaques, Okay, you can't buy plaques. The validation
comes from the people listening to the music. More importantly,
as he heard in the interview, process matters, and I
(31:29):
really like I'm a nerd or like, oh say, I
get obsessed with people who are obsessed with their process, Like, yes,
be diligent, be one with your process. I think that's
beautiful and I think that's what truly separates people from
one to the other, right hinano. And so I just
really appreciate his uniqueness.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
You know.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
It's something that I definitely agree with the sum total
of the small decisions that are being made to make
you you you know, and when it goes okay yo
yamo is like who you want to be as an artist,
As Jeremy put it, ignoring the trends hitting right now
because they won't be relevant in a few months right,
and most importantly focusing on being timeless and using history
(32:14):
to try to help you determine how to go about it.
I wish more people thought that way, because the truth
is chasing trends. Yes, it's a trend in Latin music, Like,
let's do the trend. I get it, But like, I
think that's one of, if not our biggest flaw. Like
it's the reason why a huge chunk of songs, not all,
(32:36):
but huge chunk of songs being produced today can't stand
next to Mayo Giggle or Gasolina or Rakata or any
time this classic from the two thousands that defines a genre.
And last thing I'll say is an need y'all producers
to start diversifying these producer fruity lupaks. Everybody can be bad, bunny,
(32:57):
I love with all my heart and soul, and I'll
be lying if I didn't say that. In recent years,
I've been feeling like a lot of reggat been sounding
the same, Like a lot of the drum patterns, even
some of the melodies. It's like in the same ballpark.
I'm like, bro, like, please versify these packs, Like everybody
(33:17):
shouldn't sound the same there's so much to be explored, like,
oh my god, oh my god, I'm gonna stop there.
That's all the times that we have today. Make sure
to follow on socials and subscribe everywhere and follow on
(33:42):
the iHeartRadio app. Thank You for Listening to is executive
produced herself from shik it Easy Media. Our producer is
Grace Gonsalez, our engineer is Habby Vibes, and the show
(34:05):
is edited by Sebastian Fayan And another shout out to
the Cleveland in Miami Beach. My people, I'm your host,
La Gata. See you next week right here on the
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