November 2, 2023 • 11 mins
Bethenny addresses Ramona Singer being cut from BravoCon… and she has a good point.
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Speaker 1 (00:11):
Ramona, Ramona Ramona.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
So the Vanity Fair article comes out and it shines
a light on things that happened between Ramona and Ebony
and a black producer and Ramona's alleged use of.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
The N word, and then there was no reunion.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
They did not film or reunion, but it was because
of this controversy and a quote unquote internal investigation.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
And then Ramona was cleared supposedly, but.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
She was persona on grata and she wasn't going to
be asked back to the legacy show, but she was
asked to go on Real Housewives Ultimate Girls Trip. That's
the show that's going to be supposedly replacing the Morocco
(01:19):
show that got pretty much canceled and will probably never
see the light of day. That's the show that they
were doing drinking games and smoking pot and there was
an alleged sexual altercation. Because there's endless amounts of alcohol,
(01:45):
jet lag, sleep deprivation, unreasonable filming schedules, and drama cells.
So now you have a group of people that have
been fired and they all want to go on Full
Tilt because they're desperate to be asked back for entertainment.
And one of those people Brandy was on another show
in the Berkshire, so now this was her second one.
So you can bet trust and believe that they wanted
(02:07):
Brandy to be Brandy because that sells. And what happens
in this environment is in the beginning, you're applauded for
one thing, enter Leah season one, and then taken down
to the sticks the next season, because what goes up
must come down. Enter Kathy Hilton, Enter Brandy Glanville when
she had a New York Times bestseller. But everybody must
(02:30):
be taken to the top and then crash and burn,
celebrated for how hilarious they are and how amazing they
are and how real they are, and then crash and burn.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
So back to Ramona. So Ramona.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
Is not good enough to be on the Real Housewives
of New York, nor the Legacy Show, nor well the
reunion be aired, but she gets asked to come on
this shit show of a Hodgepodge mishmash because I used
to ask Andy, when would you ever do all Stars?
Speaker 1 (03:02):
When would you ever do a group thing?
Speaker 2 (03:04):
And he said, one day, when we're near the end,
that's when we'll do that. But that's not now. So
it feels like it's now now, but that's the place
where people I don't know Faedra and I have met
her and she was lovely, but she had an incident
with Candy where Candy and Bravo seemed to feel that
(03:29):
Faedra had accused Candy of drugging people, and that's why
Fedra left the show. But now Faedra's applauded and she's
brought on an Ultimate Girl's Trip because Bravo is the
land of forget as long as it's good for ratings.
(03:50):
So Ramona was good enough for the Ultimate Girl's Trip,
and then she was good enough just a week or
two ago to get on Andy's lap in a big costume.
She was the She was the surprise, and you know
she loves Andy. I'm sure she thinks of him like
a brother until it's time to go to Bravo Con
because she says something absurd which is no different than
(04:14):
probably what was said on the show, and now because
of optics, Bravo has disinvited her to Bravo Con. Believe me,
if Ramona said something that made her look really bad
on her own, but it didn't affect Bravo, and they're
being canceled, Ramona would be front and center on the stage.
(04:37):
When Ramona said about my ex who passed away, wasn't
he on drugs or something?
Speaker 1 (04:45):
That was a terrible thing to say. But it doesn't matter.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
Bravo doesn't care about that because it wasn't about Bravo
and it didn't make Bravo look bad.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
It just made Ramona look bad. Bravo is the realm.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
Everybody has to do it so they protect ahead and
they are scrambling like you have never seen before. And
I know from firsthand knowledge. I know from lawyers, I
know from publicists. I know for a fact the powers
that be are scrambling and looking for crisis intervention, you
(05:19):
name it. And Bravo con is just around the corner.
And many of you, not many, a percentage of you
don't want your junk food to be taken away, and
so you say to me, oh, you bit the hand
that feeds you. Oh, now you're going to take this away.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
Et cetera.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Okay, so argument's sake, I'm dead wrong. None of what
I'm saying is true. Okay, first of all, let's pretend
I'm a hypocrite. Okay, I'm a hypocrite. I bit the
hand that fed me. Oh okay, so let's pretend what
I'm saying isn't true. Why Ramona now disinvalued to Bravo
(06:02):
con when last week she was sitting on Andy's lap.
Why because it's a boat filled with holes like a
piece of Swiss cheese, That's why. And the Vanity Fair
story was amazing that Liam McSweeney said Bravo should pay
the flax that made that story what it was because
(06:24):
that story moved the conversation forward.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
Don't get it twisted. And there are at least a.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
Dozen lawsuits that named Bravo and Andy Cohen personally.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
But that article.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Warner Brothers is the company that owns Vanity Fair, and
that's the same company that owns Shed Media, which produces
The Housewives. But the truth doesn't lie, and it's out
there and the toothpaste cap is off the tube. So
(06:59):
Bravo is going to live on without Ramona. Cast of Morocco,
many of which have been disinvited from Bravo con because
that show will probably never see the light of day.
Real Housewives, Ultimate Girls Trip New York is supposed to
replace Morocco in December. What's going to happen with that
when Ramona is its star, so they are in a
(07:24):
free fall. So if you think I'm wrong, why is
everybody changing all their ways? Why is the entire industry
shaking in their boots? Why is Bravo on damage control?
Speaker 1 (07:37):
Why? Because what I'm saying is correct.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
So you may not like me, don't throw the baby
out with the bathwater, because the reality reckoning is real
and it's not going anywhere. And the Bravo conversation continues.
(08:04):
So five people today sent me this watch what Crappens post,
and I didn't understand why everyone was sending it to me,
But this post was basically saying, so we learned that
Ramone is a racist and that people drink too.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
Much of Bravo.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
I'm paraphrasing, but something like that, talking about the Vanity
Fair article with the alcohol consumption, and Ramona allegedly texted
the N word and subsequently being removed from Bravo Con,
disinvited from Bravo Con, and it's been reported that she
(08:45):
has been let go from her real estate position. So
Andy Cohen today did a like laughing emoji on the
watch where Crappin's post, which was belittling the alcohol discussion
and the racism discussion, which is really like shocking, honestly shocking,
(09:09):
especially right now. I think he probably just thinks he's
invincible because he's untouchable and it's been really hard. So
Leah posted I'm glad to know that Andy thinks it's
funny racism and substance abuse, and I just reposted it
and said, Bravo, con seems like it's gonna be fun
(09:32):
because riddle me this, Andy Cohen is laughing at something
regarding racism, why would he not be asked to leave
Bravo kan If Ramona texted something to someone in the media.
It's just it's fifty shades of bullshit, is what it
(09:52):
actually is across the board. But it's bubbling and per usual,
I've overshot the mark. I've gotten calls all day every
day since this whole thing started.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
And women are a different breed.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
They bubble up onto the surface and they start to
get stronger when they feel like they have other women,
other sisters next to them. And it's just for the
first time in Andy's career, he's starting to feel like
what it feels like to be a housewife.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
This is what it feels like to be a housewife.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
Every day, something you say being written about, no one
there to save you, no one there to protect you.
You're ultimately on your own, getting canceled, losing sleep, drinking
more than you should because you're having such anxiety, taking
anxiety medication, taking sleep medication. It's really serious. It's what
(10:53):
I've been talking about. So maybe he'll be more sensitive
to other housewives and to people on reality TV as
he starts to experience what it feels like to be
the subject of constant criticism.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
So watch what happens.
Ramona, Ramona Ramona.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
So the Vanity Fair article comes out and it shines
a light on things that happened between Ramona and Ebony
and a black producer and Ramona's alleged use of.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
The N word, and then there was no reunion.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
They did not film or reunion, but it was because
of this controversy and a quote unquote internal investigation.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
And then Ramona was cleared supposedly, but.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
She was persona on grata and she wasn't going to
be asked back to the legacy show, but she was
asked to go on Real Housewives Ultimate Girls Trip. That's
the show that's going to be supposedly replacing the Morocco
(01:19):
show that got pretty much canceled and will probably never
see the light of day. That's the show that they
were doing drinking games and smoking pot and there was
an alleged sexual altercation. Because there's endless amounts of alcohol,
(01:45):
jet lag, sleep deprivation, unreasonable filming schedules, and drama cells.
So now you have a group of people that have
been fired and they all want to go on Full
Tilt because they're desperate to be asked back for entertainment.
And one of those people Brandy was on another show
in the Berkshire, so now this was her second one.
So you can bet trust and believe that they wanted
(02:07):
Brandy to be Brandy because that sells. And what happens
in this environment is in the beginning, you're applauded for
one thing, enter Leah season one, and then taken down
to the sticks the next season, because what goes up
must come down. Enter Kathy Hilton, Enter Brandy Glanville when
she had a New York Times bestseller. But everybody must
(02:30):
be taken to the top and then crash and burn,
celebrated for how hilarious they are and how amazing they
are and how real they are, and then crash and burn.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
So back to Ramona. So Ramona.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
Is not good enough to be on the Real Housewives
of New York, nor the Legacy Show, nor well the
reunion be aired, but she gets asked to come on
this shit show of a Hodgepodge mishmash because I used
to ask Andy, when would you ever do all Stars?
Speaker 1 (03:02):
When would you ever do a group thing?
Speaker 2 (03:04):
And he said, one day, when we're near the end,
that's when we'll do that. But that's not now. So
it feels like it's now now, but that's the place
where people I don't know Faedra and I have met
her and she was lovely, but she had an incident
with Candy where Candy and Bravo seemed to feel that
(03:29):
Faedra had accused Candy of drugging people, and that's why
Fedra left the show. But now Faedra's applauded and she's
brought on an Ultimate Girl's Trip because Bravo is the
land of forget as long as it's good for ratings.
(03:50):
So Ramona was good enough for the Ultimate Girl's Trip,
and then she was good enough just a week or
two ago to get on Andy's lap in a big costume.
She was the She was the surprise, and you know
she loves Andy. I'm sure she thinks of him like
a brother until it's time to go to Bravo Con
because she says something absurd which is no different than
(04:14):
probably what was said on the show, and now because
of optics, Bravo has disinvited her to Bravo Con. Believe me,
if Ramona said something that made her look really bad
on her own, but it didn't affect Bravo, and they're
being canceled, Ramona would be front and center on the stage.
(04:37):
When Ramona said about my ex who passed away, wasn't
he on drugs or something?
Speaker 1 (04:45):
That was a terrible thing to say. But it doesn't matter.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
Bravo doesn't care about that because it wasn't about Bravo
and it didn't make Bravo look bad.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
It just made Ramona look bad. Bravo is the realm.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
Everybody has to do it so they protect ahead and
they are scrambling like you have never seen before. And
I know from firsthand knowledge. I know from lawyers, I
know from publicists. I know for a fact the powers
that be are scrambling and looking for crisis intervention, you
(05:19):
name it. And Bravo con is just around the corner.
And many of you, not many, a percentage of you
don't want your junk food to be taken away, and
so you say to me, oh, you bit the hand
that feeds you. Oh, now you're going to take this away.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
Et cetera.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Okay, so argument's sake, I'm dead wrong. None of what
I'm saying is true. Okay, first of all, let's pretend
I'm a hypocrite. Okay, I'm a hypocrite. I bit the
hand that fed me. Oh okay, so let's pretend what
I'm saying isn't true. Why Ramona now disinvalued to Bravo
(06:02):
con when last week she was sitting on Andy's lap.
Why because it's a boat filled with holes like a
piece of Swiss cheese, That's why. And the Vanity Fair
story was amazing that Liam McSweeney said Bravo should pay
the flax that made that story what it was because
(06:24):
that story moved the conversation forward.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
Don't get it twisted. And there are at least a.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
Dozen lawsuits that named Bravo and Andy Cohen personally.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
But that article.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Warner Brothers is the company that owns Vanity Fair, and
that's the same company that owns Shed Media, which produces
The Housewives. But the truth doesn't lie, and it's out
there and the toothpaste cap is off the tube. So
(06:59):
Bravo is going to live on without Ramona. Cast of Morocco,
many of which have been disinvited from Bravo con because
that show will probably never see the light of day.
Real Housewives, Ultimate Girls Trip New York is supposed to
replace Morocco in December. What's going to happen with that
when Ramona is its star, so they are in a
(07:24):
free fall. So if you think I'm wrong, why is
everybody changing all their ways? Why is the entire industry
shaking in their boots? Why is Bravo on damage control?
Speaker 1 (07:37):
Why? Because what I'm saying is correct.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
So you may not like me, don't throw the baby
out with the bathwater, because the reality reckoning is real
and it's not going anywhere. And the Bravo conversation continues.
(08:04):
So five people today sent me this watch what Crappens post,
and I didn't understand why everyone was sending it to me,
But this post was basically saying, so we learned that
Ramone is a racist and that people drink too.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
Much of Bravo.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
I'm paraphrasing, but something like that, talking about the Vanity
Fair article with the alcohol consumption, and Ramona allegedly texted
the N word and subsequently being removed from Bravo Con,
disinvited from Bravo Con, and it's been reported that she
(08:45):
has been let go from her real estate position. So
Andy Cohen today did a like laughing emoji on the
watch where Crappin's post, which was belittling the alcohol discussion
and the racism discussion, which is really like shocking, honestly shocking,
(09:09):
especially right now. I think he probably just thinks he's
invincible because he's untouchable and it's been really hard. So
Leah posted I'm glad to know that Andy thinks it's
funny racism and substance abuse, and I just reposted it
and said, Bravo, con seems like it's gonna be fun
(09:32):
because riddle me this, Andy Cohen is laughing at something
regarding racism, why would he not be asked to leave
Bravo kan If Ramona texted something to someone in the media.
It's just it's fifty shades of bullshit, is what it
(09:52):
actually is across the board. But it's bubbling and per usual,
I've overshot the mark. I've gotten calls all day every
day since this whole thing started.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
And women are a different breed.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
They bubble up onto the surface and they start to
get stronger when they feel like they have other women,
other sisters next to them. And it's just for the
first time in Andy's career, he's starting to feel like
what it feels like to be a housewife.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
This is what it feels like to be a housewife.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
Every day, something you say being written about, no one
there to save you, no one there to protect you.
You're ultimately on your own, getting canceled, losing sleep, drinking
more than you should because you're having such anxiety, taking
anxiety medication, taking sleep medication. It's really serious. It's what
(10:53):
I've been talking about. So maybe he'll be more sensitive
to other housewives and to people on reality TV as
he starts to experience what it feels like to be
the subject of constant criticism.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
So watch what happens.
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