OnePlus 12 Smartphone & Mother of All Data Breaches

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The mother of all data breaches, What you need to
know about how to protect your personal information, the new
iPhone security feature you should enable pretty much right now,
and why you might be able to file your taxes
for free for real this time. Plus your tech questions answered.

(00:21):
What's going on in Rich Dumiro And This is Rich
on Tech broadcasting live from Los Angeles, coast to coast.
This is the show where I talk about the tech
stuff I think you should know about. It's also the
place where I answer your questions about technology. I believe
the tech should be interesting, useful, and fun. Let's open

(00:41):
up the phone lines at triple eight Rich one oh one.
That's eight eight eight seven four to two four one
zero one. Give me a call if you have a
question about technology. Email is also an option. Just go
to rich on Tech dot tv hit the link that
says contact. We got some great guests on the show
this week. Juan Carlos Bagnell, some gadget guy on YouTube,

(01:04):
will join me to review the new one plus twelve
smartphone getting a lot of good reviews, and I think
his will be positive as well.

Speaker 2 (01:12):
We'll hear from him.

Speaker 1 (01:13):
Mitch Goldstone of scanmyphotos dot com is gonna explain how
small businesses can secure a portion of a five point
five billion dollar payment card settlement he helped secure and
I got the letter right to my house and it
says it's time to file your claim. So I will

(01:34):
explain why why he did that and how you can
get some money out of that. And John Faulkner of
Clean Fleet Report will join to review the Kia EV nine.
This is their new three row suv. Well it is
bring your wife to work day. Bobo brought Britney in,
his beautiful newlywed wife, so thanks for joining us here

(01:57):
in the studio. She might she may pick some mus
I picked the first song, so well, maybe let her
pick something. Uh okay, So this is really wild. I
switched to the Samsung Galaxy S twenty four Ultra this
week to really put it through its paces. I don't
do this very often. The last time I did it
was with the Pixel fold where I actually switch my

(02:18):
personal SIM card and phone number into the phone. And
it's kind of a big deal because it changes everything, right,
but I really wanted to see kind of like it's
been a while since I was in an Android and
I kind of wanted to see like day to day
what it was like, and it's been amazing. This phone
is really really impressive. When I say this is the
most powerful phone I've ever tested, it truly is. I mean,

(02:39):
the screen is just impeccable. The software I've even gotten
used to Samsung's little special flavor of one. UI have
gotten used to that it is fast. The antenna places
where my iPhone did not have a signal or work
very properly. This thing is just blazing fast. The powerful

(03:00):
nature of this thing is just really incredible.

Speaker 3 (03:02):
Now.

Speaker 1 (03:02):
I will say the one little issue I have with
it is I think the camera is good, but I
think it will be great when Samsung does a couple
software updates. And overall, very very happy with this phone.
I think it is their absolute best device they've put
out ever. The Circle to Search feature is just so
much fun. The little AI features not using them as much,

(03:25):
but the Circle to search is like it's just such
an incredible feature where you can scribble anything you want
on your screen, circle highlight whatever, and it will reverse
search that on Google. So if you're on like Instagram, whatever,
you want to see the shirt that someone's wearing, like
the brand, whatever, just circle it and you can buy it.

Speaker 2 (03:40):
It's pretty cool.

Speaker 1 (03:41):
The one thing I will say I've noticed about is
the the ecosystem that Apple has built. It is really
tough to get out of that. And I noticed it
with my chargers. They're all mag safe. My Apple Watch,
I can't wear that because of this thing. And so
it just goes to show the power of what Apple
has built. It is very tough for people to get
out of it. And not to mention the whole green

(04:04):
bubble thing. Let me read you a couple of actual
texts I got from people in the past couple of days.
Friend number one we texted and he wrote Android question mark.
I figured i'd spare you the complaining about the green
bubble and I said, yeah, I know, I'm testing the
new Samsung phone. Friend number two, Okay, thanks green bubbles.

(04:26):
And then he put a little emoji that I don't
know what it means, but it looked like it was
like two eyes looking off to the side. Acquaintance this oside,
I bobo said, Okay, side eye, that's what it is. Acquaintance.
I don't even really know this person. And we texted
a couple of times and she said, also, I noticed
your green bubble. I take it you're using the new phone.
Random person. Uh call screener Kim. This just happened a

(04:49):
couple of minutes ago. I didn't say anything, didn't prep
this at all. I just texted her from the green bubble.
She goes, also, you're turning my text green today. Ew
must be tech with that Samsung phone. And she made
me switch to WhatsApp. So, Kim, I love you, but
oh my gosh, this is what you have to deal with.
And so this is why I love doing this actually,

(05:10):
because I get to see what it's like to have to,
you know, put up with this stuff.

Speaker 2 (05:15):
Anyway, it's all in good fun.

Speaker 1 (05:17):
My friends know that's from time to time they will
see me text with a green bubble. It is all good.
But Apple, you really really created a division amongst folks
with this thing. Well. As the tech person, you know,
I am tech support for friends and family. I have
people that run into me on the street they say hi,
and the second question is like, hey, can I ask

(05:37):
you a question real quick? It's like it's like the
doctor at the party, right like can I show you
this rash? Like no, I'm trying to enjoy my night.
But that's what people do. They proceed to pull out
their phone and ask me to, you know, figure out something.
Well for family, of course, I've got a soft spot
in my heart. And so my mom, Well, let me
tell you.

Speaker 2 (05:54):
First.

Speaker 1 (05:54):
My son comes home this morning and goes, Dad, I
need a new iPad. This one's all broken. I'm like,
what what do you mean? You need a new ipe? Yeah,
this doesn't work. Just Coulick, go get a new one. Like, no, no, no,
We're gonna figure out what's going.

Speaker 2 (06:04):
On with the iPad. So sure enough, I take a look.

Speaker 1 (06:07):
Everything's like all gobbledygook and this and that, and I said, look,
I looked at his storage. I said, dude, you're at
one hundred percent storage. Your iPad can't physically do anything
else because it's so filled up. And so it took
me a little bit. I figured out that cap cut
was using up all of his storage, cleared it out,
giving back his iPad. He's like, oh it works now.
I'm like, yeah, you just were ready to throw this
thing out. Then my mom I call my mom picking

(06:31):
up the kids on the way to school. Call my
mom just casually. She's like, oh, good thing you called.
I'm like, oh, why, Well, my phone. My TV's not working.
What do you mean your TV's not working? I would
just stop working. Well, what do you mean, Well it
comes on? But nothing comes on? I said, well is
your fire stick? You know, just got the Amazon fire
stick that I set up on a Roku TV, and
you know, sure enough, we go through this whole troubleshooting stuff.

(06:51):
And I don't know if you know, but like troubleshooting
from three thousand miles away with someone who is, you know,
not necessarily tech savvy is not the easiest thing. So
she's pulling out the HDMI, she's pulling out the power cord,
and I have to make sure she gets all this
stuff back in. I can't figure it out. So what
I do. I go to my brother justin you're on
the line. This is my actual brother who I had

(07:12):
to bring in to actually help me with my mom's
set up. Did you help her get this set up?

Speaker 4 (07:19):
Hey Rich greeting from Jersey.

Speaker 1 (07:21):
Yes, greetings from New Jersey. So I had to turn
to you. So I was like the I guess I
was like, what do you do at the hospital when
they kind of like just they figure out like what's
wrong with you? They assess you the trioge I was
the triage, But you actually went to Mom's place and
figured out what was wrong with the firestick.

Speaker 4 (07:44):
To be honest with you, I still don't know. I
tried everything. I swapped out the USB cable, I.

Speaker 5 (07:48):
Tried the plug and the wall I moved that.

Speaker 4 (07:51):
I tried changing the port on the HDMI port on
the TV.

Speaker 6 (07:56):
Nothing would work.

Speaker 4 (07:57):
I think the actual stick is just dead or it's
not accepting power for some reason.

Speaker 1 (08:02):
Now you are a tech savvy person. Would a mere
mortal be able to figure out what you tried to
do with this fire stick?

Speaker 4 (08:11):
I probably not. I mean she she couldn't, so I
don't know.

Speaker 1 (08:15):
I was impressed though she was able to pull the
power chords out yesterday, pull the uh she was likery.
I was trying to describe like the micro USB power
chord versus like HDMI, and I was like, I don't know,
like the small one that plugs into the side of
the fire TV versus the big one that plugs into
the back of the TV.

Speaker 2 (08:32):
I mean, it's really complicated. What did you end up doing?

Speaker 4 (08:36):
So I gave up on the fire sticks all together
at some point, and like, this thing's not working, so
she had, Like you said, she has a Roku TV.
I'm like, let me just download the apps that she
uses onto the TV directly. Let me tell you this
was a process what so it wasn't logged into what?
It wasn't logged into any Wi Fi? So I connected

(08:57):
it to the Wi Fi. Then the first thing I asked,
before you can do anything, you have to update the TV.
I'm like, all right, fine, it hasn't been connected to
Wi Fi and whoever knows how long, so let me
let me do the update. Ten minutes later, comes back
and the Wi Fi is disconnected again. It must I
think it factory reset the TV. So I get it

(09:20):
back on my Wi Fi. And you know how much
of a pain it is to enter in all the
little password symbols through the control, the remote control.

Speaker 7 (09:29):
So I do that.

Speaker 4 (09:31):
Then I had to before I could do anything. Now,
I had to create a Roku account account.

Speaker 1 (09:37):
And you sent me a screenshot of this. And what's
the first thing I said? Because you handed over all
of her personal information right.

Speaker 4 (09:43):
Asked for was like her social her birth data, birth
her ads, like her full address, Like.

Speaker 1 (09:49):
No, you're just kidding about the social but but look,
Roku is a data play. They're getting data right off
the top because they do make money on ads, and
so you put all that in in there and then
you download it all the apps, and I imagine you
crowdsource the passwords for the apps from various family members.

Speaker 6 (10:07):
I contacted everybody I know, my sisters, my friends, my
ex boyfriends of sisters, all kinds of things, and I
finally got log into several different apps.

Speaker 2 (10:18):
So now she's up and running.

Speaker 1 (10:20):
And now she's using the remote that came with the TV,
So she's going from fire TV to Roco.

Speaker 4 (10:25):
Right, But it doesn't even end there. The remote is
I don't know what happened to it, but the up
button doesn't really work that well, so you got to
click it like four times before it moves.

Speaker 1 (10:34):
Ooh, that's not fun. All right, Well, it sounds like
we got to get our a new fire stick. So
I bring you on and we got to go. But
I bring you on to say, is this stuff easy?
Like people call in this show every day. They're frustrated,
they're confused, they're tired of all this stuff.

Speaker 2 (10:50):
Is technology easy?

Speaker 4 (10:53):
No, definitely not. They've made it more complicated than it
needs to be in every possible way all right.

Speaker 1 (11:00):
Justin DeMuro, thanks so much for joining me on the
show today. I appreciate you helping out and being my
my tech support army over there on the East Coast.

Speaker 4 (11:11):
Thanks for having me on, all right.

Speaker 2 (11:12):
Appreciate it all right.

Speaker 1 (11:14):
Coming up on today's show, how Ai is ruining everything
in our world from Taylor Swift to the election. But
first it is your turn. Your call is coming up
next to Triple eight rich one on one. That's eight
eight eight seven four to two four to one zero one.
Give me a call if you have a question about technology.
My name is rich DeMuro and you are listening to
rich on Tech. Welcome back to rich on Tech. Rich

(11:38):
DeMuro here hanging out with you talking technology at Triple
eight rich one O one. That's eight eight eight seven
four to two four one zero one. The website is
richon Tech dot tv. You can hit contact there to
submit a message for me or a note for the
show in the feedback segment. Let's see what else so

(12:01):
on Instagram, it's at rich on Tech. Let's go to
Jim in Claremont, California. Jim, you're on with Rich Hi.

Speaker 8 (12:09):
Rich.

Speaker 9 (12:10):
I heard that the new Android phone might have some
type of translation feature where you could speak to other
people that don't speak the same language.

Speaker 5 (12:19):
Is that true or not?

Speaker 1 (12:20):
Yeah? This is on the S twenty four series from Samsung.
They've got a couple of translation features and they're actually
really cool. So one of them will help you translate
phone calls. So you can make a phone call to someone,
and when you make a call to someone, there's a
little pop up that says call assist, and you can

(12:41):
tap that and it will basically translate the call in
real time, so you can speak your language, it will
detect the other language that the person's speaking. It will
listen to that and then translate it and play it
back in the language that you can understand, and you
can just have a back and forth conversation like that.
Is it perfect, No, but it's pretty good. I mean,

(13:02):
if you can imagine that, you can just call someone
in Japan. They can answer the phone a restaurant and
speak in Japanese and you can understand what they're saying,
and they can understand what you're saying, all because of
this middleman translation. That's pretty incredible. So that's one way
you can do it. The other translation feature they have
built in is in the text messaging app, and so

(13:24):
you can type a message and literally translate it. It'll
be translated in real time, so when that message arrives,
no matter what it says and what language, it will
figure that out and translate it into the language that
you understand. And then the third way that it can
translate things is with a translator app. And so when
you are sitting there talking to someone, it's a two

(13:46):
way app, so on your side of the screen it
has your language and on their side of the screen
it has their language, and then it translates back and forth.
And the neat thing they did here is that you
can hold the phone between you and one half of
the screen is sort of rotated so that they can
read the bottom half of the top half and you
could read the other side, so you don't have to
like flip the phone around.

Speaker 2 (14:07):
And that was kind of the magic of that.

Speaker 1 (14:08):
Because Google translates been around for a while, Apple has
their own translate app as well, but these are all
built into the Samsung Galaxy S twenty four series. They
are coming to the S twenty three series in the
next couple of months, they said, in the first six
months of the year, so if you have an S
twenty three, you can do that and they're really fun.

(14:31):
I mean, and it's got more than just that you
can translate text on screen. I mean, there's really a
lot Like our phone is getting to the point where
you can pretty much, you know, deal with any language
you want on this phone and it works. Jim, thanks
for the call today, and Clairemont appreciate that beautiful day
here in southern California. So a lot of people outside,

(14:53):
I guess enjoying the warm weather for the first time
before it rains again. All right, let me get through
two quick AI stories, because AI is incredible, but it's
also messing things up. So AI, these fake AI Taylor
Swift images are spreading across the internet. These are explicit

(15:14):
images that were generated using AI of Tailor Swift, and
as you can imagine, not very nice. People are not
happy about this. We haven't heard officially from Taylor about this,
but they were spreading on x formerly Twitter for a while,
read it and Facebook, and it took a while for
these things to get taken down. A lot of people
saw these images when they were searching for Taylor Swift

(15:35):
related things, and as you can imagine, not a good thing.
Apparently they stem from this toxic telegram group dedicated to
sharing abusive images of women. So you might be saying, well,
how did they generate these things, because these AI systems
don't they block this stuff? Well, yeah they do, but
people spend their entire day trying to figure out how

(15:57):
to get around these things. So they didn't necessarily say
make me an image of Taylor Swift. They used words
that might generate images similar to Taylor Swift. And then
somehow I haven't seen these, so I don't know what
they look like or what they were doing, but apparently
they were pretty bad. So this is not the first
time we're going to see this. This is not the

(16:18):
last time we're going to see this. This is going
to be this idea of a deep fake. We are
just going to see more and more of this and
it's going to get more and more real. And so
especially with celebrities people in the public light, you are
not going to be able to believe what you see
when you see those pictures. Then when it comes to
the election, we know that this is going to be

(16:38):
the election of AI and it is going to have
a huge impact in this election. With misinformation and all
kinds of stuff, whether it's pictures, whether it's videos, whether
it's audio. So we have the first AI generated audio
robo call. This happened in New Hampshire. It was purportedly
President Biden urging Democrats not to vote in the primary.

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And this call apparently was sent to a lot of
people they got it. I listened to it. It sounded
like Biden, and apparently they use this this eleven Labs
audio feature that basically you just need a couple of
minutes of people's voice to generate an AI voice, And
I thought this sounded very convincing. And the problem is

(17:22):
people are getting these calls. You don't know is it real?
Is it fake? Grobal calls are a part of the election,
So how do you know if this stuff is real?
How do you know if it's fake? You just have
to be on guard. Anything you see, anything you hear,
especially when it comes to celebrities election stuff, you might say,
wait a second, is that real? You just got to
think about it, because this AI stuff is really getting realistic.

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Triple eight rich one oh one eight eight eight seven
four to two four one zero one. Coming up, We're
going to talk about the new one plus twelve smartphone
getting a lot of accolades. You're listening to rich on Tech.
Welcome back to rich on Tech. Rich to me Zo
here hanging out with you talking technology at Triple eight
Rich one oh one eight eight eight seven four to

(18:06):
two four one zero one. It is quite the year
for smartphones. We just talked about the new Samsung Galaxy
S twenty four series. Uh, there's a new mint Pixel
phone which I'll talk about a little bit. But we
also have a new one plus phone, the one plus twelve,

(18:27):
and this is a powerhouse of a phone as well,
very different than the way Samsung approaches things. But joining
me to talk about this phone is onan Carlos Bagnell,
some gadget guy on YouTube. I highly recommend that you
follow him there. He does great in depth reviews of
smartphones and also other things.

Speaker 2 (18:46):
So one, thanks so much for joining me.

Speaker 10 (18:48):
Yeah, I'm really stoked.

Speaker 11 (18:50):
We need to make this a tradition because we got
to chat about the one plus eleven last year.

Speaker 1 (18:53):
Oh my gosh was that last year that we did.
I did not even realize that when I called you up.
I just watched your review and I was like, all right,
I gotta talk this guy about this because you know,
let me.

Speaker 11 (19:03):
You're absolutely right. We've got a lot of fun stuff
going on right now.

Speaker 1 (19:06):
So this phone, you know, it's got the specks that
people love. It's got very high end specs up to
sixteen gigabytes a RAM. It's got a nice display, it's
got fast charging wired and wireless. It's got the you know,
four cameras that you want, Dolby at most. It's got
two colors, Silky Black and Flowy Emerald, and the price
is so glad.

Speaker 11 (19:26):
Yeah, I got I got the Flowy Emerald, and it's
a real pretty phone.

Speaker 10 (19:29):
So yeah, this is definitely a looker.

Speaker 1 (19:31):
Okay, so give me your impressions of this phone. So
it's under a thousand bucks so but well pretty.

Speaker 10 (19:38):
Well under a thousand bucks too.

Speaker 11 (19:40):
So right now, I mean, just like we know with
Samsung and these other companies, they love to come out
with like a pre order deal or some kind of
launch sale. And right now, the top of the line,
the sixteen gigs of RAM with five hundred and twelve
gigs of storage is at the base model price, so
seven ninety nine in this early launch window. So this

(20:00):
is a really clear shot against phones like the S
twenty four plus and the iPhone fifteen plus, but with some.

Speaker 10 (20:09):
Of the hardware that kind of closes in a.

Speaker 11 (20:11):
Little bit more on the more premium pro and ultraphones,
it's kind of split in the difference in a really
exciting way.

Speaker 1 (20:17):
By the way, sixteen gigabytes of RAM, I mean, some
people don't have that on our laptop, and that's on
a phone.

Speaker 11 (20:23):
Well, and I've been doing some technical deep dives, so
I won't border your audience with the hard core nerd stuff.
But the more RAM we put in today, that's a
company's estimation on how valuable AI might be in the future.
The more AI you do on device, you need a
lot more RAM to power that AI. So one plus

(20:45):
the one plus version in China can come with twenty.

Speaker 10 (20:47):
Four gigs overth Oh wow, we know, yeah, we know.

Speaker 11 (20:50):
They're not tied into Google services and cloud services. They're
going to be doing more on device, especially because a
lot of areas don't have robust five G networks. So
when we see these devices coming here having more RAM
on the device, that's not going to do anything for
your day to day phone use. But if you think
AI might be a companion service for you in the future.

Speaker 10 (21:10):
This is sort of the promise of what's to come.

Speaker 1 (21:12):
So in general, the hardware, display, the haptics, speakers STUF
good on this thing.

Speaker 10 (21:17):
Chier very very good.

Speaker 11 (21:19):
So one plus is moving up the food chain. The
one plus eleven was a nice sort of balance of
budget and compromises. There really are no compromises here. These
are extremely competitive cameras. I think they're better cameras than
what are on the iPhone fifteen non pro and the
Galaxy S twenty four non Ultra. But the screen gets

(21:41):
brighter than any other phone that's been released in North America.
The battery is larger, but even though the battery is
larger than even the most expensive Samsung, it charges substantially faster.
Their charge standard on this phone can go from completely
empty to completely full in roughly thirty three minutes.

Speaker 1 (22:02):
Wow, So that's eighty that's the eighty watt fast charging.

Speaker 10 (22:05):
That's the eighty watt fast charging.

Speaker 11 (22:07):
And then you you also mentioned they do have a
it's a unique standard for them, but it is a
wireless fast charging that can charge faster wirelessly than a
Samsung or an Apple can charge plugged in with a cable.
So they're not going light this This phone is coming
out swinging and it's an aggressive play at this kind

(22:27):
of performance per dollar.

Speaker 1 (22:29):
Yeah, that's kind of what I always think of when
it comes to one plus. It's like if you want
to spend your money and get like a lot for
your money, like you're getting you know, you might not
be getting the best camera on the pro phones that
we see out there, but you're getting a really good camera.
And I feel like really good camera. The cameras have
gotten better too. But tell me a little bit about
one plus, like in general, like if you know, cause
dec you don't. I don't think you see ads on

(22:51):
TV for one plus like you put Samsung, Apple and Pixel.

Speaker 11 (22:55):
So one plus is a subsidiary of a larger brand
internationally named Opo, and this is their arm that they
sell in certain regions. And they made a lot of
waves early on in the company's history, before they were
directly under Opo, they were this kind of flagship flagship
killer rebel brand, so really really low cost devices that

(23:18):
were like sixty percent of your premium tier phone, but
you spent a lot less.

Speaker 10 (23:23):
Over time, they've kind of matured into.

Speaker 11 (23:25):
More of just a direct premium handset maker, and for
a while they were showing up in T Mobile stores.
They had a carrier partnership with T Mobile that ended
in between the ten and the eleven, where I think
the brand, especially OPO, was looking at their footprint internationally
where they were really selling phones, and it didn't make
a lot of sense to build phones to carrier specs

(23:48):
and then just have them sit on store shelves like
this is one of those brands you would see in
the dusty back corner of a carrier store. They weren't
paying to really put them up right next to Samsung's
and Apples.

Speaker 10 (24:00):
They've they've kind of scaled back on.

Speaker 11 (24:01):
That operation, but this is still uh they've still got
relationships in North America distribution. These are going to be
showing up in Best buys if you want to play
with them, Yeah, that's gonna be really exciting. Is I'm
not every best buy unfortunately, but you will see some
of these start to show up where you can actually
handle them and look at them and play with them
before you have to commit money into ordering one. But

(24:21):
this is a new strategy. OPO is saying, we're going
to go very very marginly. We're going to sell the
most aggressive technologies that we can get our hands on.
We're gonna cut prices as much as we can, and
in a way, I bet you they are probably balancing
out some of those costs against their previous carrier relationships.
So this is a very exciting strategy for a brand

(24:43):
that has consistently delivered very good value for the money
and now trying to push that strategy even a little
bit further.

Speaker 1 (24:50):
All Right, So the camera, that's the thing that everyone
wants to know about. How are the cameras on this.

Speaker 10 (24:55):
These are so good?

Speaker 11 (24:58):
One plus has stepped up significant. This is the fourth generation.
They're saying Hasselblad. They have a partnership with the photography
company Hasselblad, the company that sent cameras to the Moon.
So every single time we see one of these pairings,
the phone camera just gets better, like a Zeiss even
back in the day Schneider.

Speaker 10 (25:17):
So these sensors are some.

Speaker 11 (25:19):
Of the most bleeding edge sensors for the types of
photography that we see in a phone. This is the
newest stacked sensor from Sony that's coming in for the
main camera sensor. There's a new omni vision, so it's
not the furthest reach, but the telephoto is a very
big sensor that is excellent. It's soaking up light, so

(25:41):
an older Galaxy could reach farther across the soccer field
when your kids are playing in sunshine. But this is
the kind of sensor that is really good at taking
like a fun candid indoors right. The image doesn't fall apart.
You can still catch a moment of people laughing or hugging.
You're not shoving your phone right into their face to
try and get like this moment and distract from what's

(26:01):
going on. It's a really good candid lifestyle kind of
photography solution. And the Ultra Wide is similarly a very
high resolution, high performance sensor. So I would still say
like an iPhone Pro or a Galaxy Ultra is likely
going to outperform this phone, but at hundreds of dollars more.
And when you put this up against the phones that

(26:21):
cost the same from Apple and Samsung, these cameras are
noticeable improvements in terms of hardware the physics of how
we capture and play with light. One plus has the
win in the sub one thousand dollars but still premium
category of phones.

Speaker 1 (26:36):
This year, anything that you don't like about this device,
any red flags, anything people should be aware of.

Speaker 11 (26:44):
I think that kind of goes back a little bit
more to the company's relationship in North America with consumers
and some of their branding strategy, Like the one Plus
ten had a PRO version and a T version. The
one Plus eleven just came out on its own. The
one plus twelve is coming out with a twelve and
a twelve R. If you really try to follow the

(27:05):
roadmap of what one plus devices have been, it's really
confusing to know which phone am I getting. Am I
getting the best phone that they offer? Am I getting
the nicer phone? Am I getting the more budget friendly phone.
You can look at the price tags, obviously, but I
feel like that is part of the education. That's part
of the on ramping to someone who's considering one of

(27:25):
these is you do kind of need to do your
own research. It's not as established as iPhone, iPhone fifteen,
iPhone fifteen Pro, Galaxy S Series twenty four to twenty
four plus Ultra. We kind of understand this a little
bit better. But when I go dollar for dollar, there
really isn't anything I find on an iPhone fifteen plus
or an S twenty four plus that I would recommend.

(27:48):
There's better screen tech, better charging tech, longer battery life,
bigger battery, better camera sensors. One plus has a very
very clear shot at I think what is the weakest
segment of Apple and Samsung currently, Apple and Samsung doing
way better Above one thousand dollars. One plus is seeing
a clear opportunity to kind of hit Apple and Samsung

(28:09):
where they're most vulnerable.

Speaker 1 (28:11):
All right, we're gonna leave it there. One plus twelve
coming in at seven hundred ninety nine dollars available on
February six. You can do a pre order now, and
they've got some deals. You can check them out at
a best Buy as well. One Carlos Bagnew, thanks so
much for joining me today.

Speaker 11 (28:25):
Yeah, pleasure, and I'll make sure to leave a spot
on my calendar for the one plus thirteen planning ahead.

Speaker 2 (28:31):
I like it.

Speaker 1 (28:32):
Go follow on some gadget guy on YouTube, some gadget
guy on YouTube. All right, if we're on a link
to that phone, Rich on tech dot TV, coming up,
more of your calls, Triple eight Rich one on one plus.
I'm gonna tell you about the mother of all data breaches.

Speaker 2 (28:48):
What you need to know.

Speaker 1 (28:53):
Welcome back to rich on Tech. Rich Demiro here hanging
out with you, talking technology at Triple eight Rich one
on one and that's eight eight eight seven four to
two four one zero one. Playing some Michael Jackson songs
this weekend because last weekend, after the show, I went
and saw the MJ play. It was great, but it

(29:15):
was raining, And I'll tell you this is how people
get scammed. Had nothing to do with the play. We
had a great time at the play, but it can
happen to anyone. And I the main thing when you're
getting scammed is that you're under some sort of pressure,
whether it's time, whether it's money, whether it is someone
else telling you to do something. And so that sort

(29:35):
of happened to us, and we did end up getting
scammed in a huge way. But I'll explain basically, after
the play, trying to get a ride home, right called
the Uber Uber circling around. It's pouring in Los Angeles.
Now La shuts down when it rains because people here
do not know how to deal with the rain. We
don't have umbrellas, we don't have boots, we have nothing.
We were wearing shorts and flip flops most of the time,

(29:57):
and so when it rains it gets pretty wild anyway,
So I was under pressure after this play ended. As
you can imagine, there's thousands of people spilling out onto
the streets of Hollywood Boulevard and I can't meet up
with the car. And my wife is like, what's going on?
What's happening? And I'm not blaming her, but it's like
one of these things where you want to get home
like you're done, you know, and so.

Speaker 2 (30:17):
The car is not. I'm just not linking up with
the uber.

Speaker 1 (30:20):
So I see this taxi at the at the curb
and I'm like, you know what, let's just get in
the taxi. So we jump in the taxi. It's pouring rain,
we're soaked, and we start on our way home. And
about three minutes into the ride, my wife is like,
where's the meter. I'm like, oh, no, there's no meter,
there's no sign it was it was a taxi, but
I think the person was off duty and just picking

(30:43):
up rides, and so I was like, oh no, we're
going to be taken here, Like I have no idea
how much this ride's going to be whatever, you know,
are they going to request cash, I don't know. So
long story short, we got home safely, which was my
main goal. The ride ended up being about three times
the price of the Uber, but I was perfectly fine
with that because we were home safe. But my lesson

(31:04):
learned is that when you're under pressure, that's when you
are susceptible to being scammed. When you're trying to do
something fast, you're doing something hasty, stop and think. Because
if I would have thought like why is there no
light on this car? And when I get in, why
is there no meter in this car? Those would have
been two red flags that would have made me get
out of that car.

Speaker 2 (31:22):
Knock, get in.

Speaker 1 (31:24):
Let's go to Lauren in San Diego. Lauren, you're on
with Rich. Welcome to the show.

Speaker 12 (31:28):
How did you and you love your lovely wife? Like
like the taxi ride I gave you last week?

Speaker 1 (31:33):
That was you great? Well, you are a great driver.

Speaker 12 (31:36):
Do you want to tax you?

Speaker 5 (31:37):
Just kidding you?

Speaker 12 (31:39):
One quick question, Rich, would you recommend key mobile five
G home Internet to just the power of one of
device That would be a thirty two inch Samsung Smart TV.
I like to watch the two b TV movies and
like YouTube movies, documentaries and I think also.

Speaker 7 (31:57):
A game show like Match.

Speaker 5 (31:58):
Game with jeene Ate Burn and Charles Nelson Riley.

Speaker 7 (32:01):
Would you recommend that?

Speaker 12 (32:03):
Should that work out?

Speaker 5 (32:04):
Per month?

Speaker 9 (32:05):
Just just well, what do you what do you have
right now?

Speaker 7 (32:09):
Nothing?

Speaker 5 (32:10):
No internet whatsoever? Just a smartphone?

Speaker 1 (32:12):
Okay?

Speaker 2 (32:12):
And what brand is your phone?

Speaker 8 (32:14):
Like?

Speaker 1 (32:14):
What what carrier are you on?

Speaker 8 (32:16):
AT and T?

Speaker 12 (32:16):
And I have a Samstung smart.

Speaker 1 (32:18):
Okay, you're on AT and T. So do you know
if T Mobile works at your home?

Speaker 12 (32:22):
No idea, I take it it does.

Speaker 2 (32:24):
Okay, Well, are you in like a main area?

Speaker 1 (32:27):
Yes, okay, all right, so in that case, I would
recommend this. It's it's not as cheap as it was.
They have raised the prices recently, but it's a great
way to uh, you know, to get internet quickly at
your house. There are two other services. You have T
Mobile Home Internet and also Verizon has their own home Internet,

(32:47):
and then AT and T has one which I'm trying
to remember what's it called, like Airplay or something like that.
I can't remember what the name of THEIRS is, but
THEIRS is not available in many locations. But let me
see AT and T five G Home Internet. I gotta
find out what this name is. Internet Air there it
is AT and T Internet Air. So I would go

(33:07):
on the web and I would check all three of these.
I'm sure you're getting targeted ads for this T Mobile one,
which is just fine. But the main thing is if
you don't have a good wireless signal at your home,
it's not going to be that good. So the good
news is none of these have contracts, so you can
call up you can get this thing shipped to your house.
It's basically plug and play. You plug it in your window,

(33:29):
it pulls in that signal and then it broadcasts that
signal out as a so it takes in a cellular
signal and converts that into a Wi Fi signal that
you would then connect this TV too. So that's what
I would recommend. See which one I would start with
AT and T just because your service is through AT
and T and you know it works. So I would
check to see if their Internet Air is available at

(33:49):
your location. It is in very limited areas so it
may not be, but I would check to see if
that one's available first. Then I would move on to
Verizon T Mobile to a price check, see which one
is cheaper for what you get and the speed you
get and I think as far as this powering what
you want to do, which is just stream stuff on

(34:09):
your TV, it will absolutely work one hundred percent. So
if you're streaming stuff on your phone already, it's the
same thing, it's the same signal. It'll just be on
your big screen TV. So good question, Lauren, Thanks for
calling in today from San Diego. Let's see we got
an email question here. Let's see. Jay says, I would

(34:31):
like to connect my mom's phone remotely to assist her
with installing apps or guide her on how to use
the phone. Is there a free app that we can use.
What would be your suggestion? She has a Samsung Galaxy
A fourteen. Thank you, Jy. I would recommend the free
app called team Viewer. Team Viewer they make an Android app.
They also make an app for basically every platform, whether

(34:54):
it is Windows, whether it's Mac Os, whether it's Linux, Chrome,
Raspberry Pie. You know what that is Android and I
so you can download this for free. It's a paid
service if you're a company, but for personal it is free.
And so if you just type in team Viewer Android
on Google, you can search it. You can install that
on her phone. Then you can install it on your desktop,

(35:15):
and what you do is you basically there is a
special code that the app will generate on her phone.
You ask her for that code and you can log
in from your device and basically take over the screen.
And that should work with no problems. That's the app
that I use for my mom's computer and it works
just fine. And of course you have to do it
with their permission, and there's like a one time access

(35:38):
or you can link them up permanently and have more access.
Thanks for the email, and let me tell you about this.
The mother of all data breaches. Massive data breach with
twenty six billion records was discovered Onlines, probably the largest
data leak in history. Not necessarily new, but it was
compiled from thousands of previous breaches. So they took all

(35:59):
this information that was flowing around. They put it into
one megaaload usernames, passwords, emails, phone numbers from places like LinkedIn, Twitter, Tencent, MySpace.

Speaker 2 (36:09):
Uh, what do you need to know?

Speaker 1 (36:11):
You need to know that you should not be reusing
your passwords and enable multi factor authentication. There is a
website cybernews dot com which will allow you to put
in your phone number or your email and it will
tell you if it's part of this breach. I recommend
you do that. If it is, change those passwords. This
is rich on Tech. Welcome back to rich on Tech.

(36:32):
Rich DeMuro here talking technology with you at triple eight
Rich one oh one. That's eight eight eight seven four
to two four one zero one. This is the show
where I talk about the tech stuff I think you
should know about. It's also the place where I answer
your questions. Coming up this hour. Mitch Goldstone of scanmyphotos
dot com.

Speaker 5 (36:53):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (36:53):
Not only does he run a small business, but he
actually helps secure five point five billion dollars in a
settlement about how payment cards are processed with small businesses.
So you might have gotten an envelope in the mail
if you run a small business that says you can
claim your share of the five point five billion dollar

(37:13):
settlement if you accepted Visa or MasterCard from January first,
two thousand and four through January twenty fifth, twenty nineteen,
and you might have thrown you might have be ready
to throw it out and say, wait, this is probably
junk mail.

Speaker 2 (37:23):
No it's not.

Speaker 1 (37:25):
He will explain what that's all about and how he
won that much money from these credit card processing companies.
I finished watching Killers of the Flower Moon. This is
a epic three plus hour movie that's trying to get
through all the Academy Award nominees, and this, I think

(37:46):
takes the cake as the most paused movie I've ever
watched in my life because it was three hours and
thirty minutes or something like that, and with two kids
and two jobs and a wife and some other things
happening in the world, I can't sit in front of
a TV for that amount of time without getting up
and pausing, and so I think I paused this movie
probably like thirty seven times, also over two days. But

(38:10):
I did switch to a new app for my movie watching,
and I think that you should check it out. It
is called just Watch, and I was using one called
Real Good r ee L g oo D, but I
find that just Watch is actually kind of easier, and
I'm really digging it. I haven't paid for the pro
they give you everything for free, but there's one pro

(38:31):
feature that's actually kind of nice, and it lets you
sort your movie list like your little watch list, by time,
like the run time, So if you only have, like
you know, if you're Friday night, you don't feel like
staying up very long. You want to see the shortest
movie on your list, you can sort it by runtime,
but they charge you two dollars and fifty cents a
month for that, so I subscribe for a couple of
months just to you know, why not right anyway, the

(38:54):
app is called just Watch. And if you know me,
if you listen to this show, you know I refuse
to watch any movie that that are not streaming on
one of my services because I pay for so many
of them. So I've got all of the Academy Award
movies on my little list here, and it tells me
where they're playing and if they're playing for free. So
I think next up is going to be The Holdovers

(39:16):
because that's on Peacock, and so I can watch that
for free since I pay for Peacock. Let's go to
Let's go to Stanley in Bettsville, Ohio.

Speaker 2 (39:27):
Stanley are On with Rich.

Speaker 5 (39:29):
Hello rich On Tech. Hello, Hello from the Great Lakes
region of America.

Speaker 1 (39:36):
How is it there? Is it cold?

Speaker 6 (39:40):
Well?

Speaker 5 (39:40):
It's forty okay, well not nice cold, but dreary, rainy
and snow tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (39:45):
Okay, well.

Speaker 5 (39:47):
Wait, my friend, yeah, anyway, my question, Rich is I've
had an INSPI on twenty four inch all in one
unit from a major computer manufacturer in round Rock text.
I know who, you know who I'm talking about.

Speaker 2 (40:02):
Sure we can, we can deduce.

Speaker 5 (40:05):
Yeah, And I enjoyed it tremendously. And again it's the
all in one CPU and screen all in one package. Well,
looking to upgrade to the twenty seven inch version after
several years, and I opted for the package they offer
to transfer data from the old twenty four inch PC
to the new twenty seven inch PC. Do those things

(40:29):
actually work well? And I'm thinking, if it's going to
work anywhere, it will from the same manufacturer to the
same manufacturer. What's your experience?

Speaker 2 (40:39):
So is it?

Speaker 1 (40:40):
Are you? Do they give you software that's or like,
what what's the old computer?

Speaker 2 (40:45):
Like version of.

Speaker 10 (40:46):
Windows on Windows ten?

Speaker 2 (40:49):
Okay and the new one has eleven?

Speaker 13 (40:52):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (40:53):
Yeah, And this is software that when you're getting this
new computer, they just bundle it in and say for
an extra forty bucks, we'll give you this hard driving
more or whatever.

Speaker 5 (41:01):
That's the way I understand it. I don't know if
it's all software or if there's a physical connection between
some ports or something. I don't know.

Speaker 1 (41:10):
Yeah, it could be. I mean, here's the thing. So
Number one, I typically don't. I don't transfer computers to
the next one like I've done, you know, many upgrades
over the years. I always start fresh because I feel like,
if you're bringing your old computer over, unless you have
a specific reason to why bring all the baggage that
comes with that computer that you've run for so long

(41:31):
onto a new, fresh computer that's going to run nice
and fast and clean. So I personally always install things
with a fresh start. But if you don't want to
do that, there's a couple of ways around this. Number One,
if you're trying to use a program that's going to
bring over, like the applications and things like that can
get kind of tricky, so I don't typically recommend that.
But if you want to bring over your software, your

(41:54):
files and things like that, you know you can dump
those all into something like one drive which is built
into the Windows computer on the you know, the old one,
and then you know, on the new computer just reaccess
those and bring those over. Now, you may have too
many files and that's not going to work, and so
you know, you don't want to spend the money on
buying cloud storage for that to happen, but you can

(42:15):
also just put them on an external hard drive and
you can back them up to a drive and then
bring that drive over to the new computer. The main
thing is that you're probably still going to have to
unless you're cloning a drive, You're probably still going to
have to bring over your applications, which means you're gonna
have to reinstall those on the new computer as well.
Now Windows used to have sort of a migration tool

(42:35):
built in. They do not anymore, which is probably why
this computer company is offering to sell you some software.
The popular software is PC mover from LapLink. That may
be what they're selling you forty bucks online. So if that,
you know, if you want it to be easy and
simple and you want to use the software transfer, then
go ahead. It's it's going to make life a little

(42:58):
bit easier and you know everything's going to be pulled
over to the new computer. Personally, I'm just much more
hands on and I like to know what's happening and
what's being pulled over and what settings are changing and
all that kind of stuff. So I would like to
do this myself. But I don't see any problem with
doing this. If you want to make life easy for yourself,
go ahead. That's probably the best way to do it.

(43:19):
Thanks for the call there in Bettsville, Ohio. Stanley appreciate it.
Let's go to Richard in Saint Charles, Illinois.

Speaker 2 (43:29):
Richard, you're on with rich Hi, I've got a problem.

Speaker 7 (43:33):
I've got a computer that has Windows pen on it,
and it keeps every few days saying you have to update.
It'll do it when you turn it off, if you
tell it to or whatever, and eventually, and I always say,
forget it. I never want any updates. How do I

(43:55):
get it so I don't have to have these things
screwing up my computer all the time?

Speaker 2 (44:01):
Oh? Good question.

Speaker 1 (44:02):
Well, first off, I do recommend doing the updates, and
I know people don't want to do updates because it
changes things, it changes the way their computer works. But
there's a reason for these updates, and it is mostly security.
Sometimes they do throw in an update that will change
the way your computer works. But if you want to
just do the updates that are security related, when you're

(44:25):
looking at that update screen, you should have the choice
to choose the individual updates that you want to do.
You could tell which ones are security related. Because they're
typically marked that way, but other times there's a bigger
update that will change some of the things on your computer.
So I would say it's best to do the updates
just if you want to keep your computer protected. There
is no way to stop the updates easily, as.

Speaker 2 (44:47):
Far as I know.

Speaker 1 (44:48):
On Windows, there are some ways to pause them for
seven days, and you can repeat that if you want
to pause them for a period of time, but there
really isn't a way to stop them forever. Looking here
and seeing if there's a way to defer some of
these updates, yeah, I mean it's one of these things

(45:09):
where there are some ways to just defer them for
a while, but there's not a way to keep them
from never happening. I mean, really, you can defer them
for as long as you want to keep them from
happening for a certain period of time, but eventually you
know you're probably gonna have to do these things, and.

Speaker 2 (45:26):
I do recommend you do them.

Speaker 1 (45:27):
I think with any any device that you have, whether
it is your phone, whether it is your computer, these
software updates are put there for a reason, and they're
put there to protect you from the exploits that are
discovered in the wild, and so especially on a Windows computer,
that is the most common platform out there, and so
there are a lot of things that can affect this,

(45:50):
and so by not doing these updates, you are putting
yourself at a disadvantage. I understand it changes things. I
know sometimes you get these things on there and they're
just you know, they change the way your computer works
or runs. But they still are very important to do.
So my advice is to always do them. I know
it changes, but if you want to put them off,
you can pause them for a while and keep them

(46:14):
at bay for just a little bit. But I always
recommend doing them all. Right, coming up, let's see what
can I tell you about. Speaking of security, if you
have an iPhone, there is a new security setting that
I definitely think you should turn on. And Apple is
changing big changes over in Europe. I'm not sure they'll

(46:34):
trickle here to the US, but Apple is overhauling its
app store in response to this new European Union digital law,
and so I will tell you what you need to
know about that, plus the website. Rich on tech dot TV.
If you have a question for me, you can call
in Triple eight rich one on one eight eight eight
seven four to two four one zero one. You are

(46:57):
listening to rich on Tech. Welcome back to rich on Tech.
Rich Demiro here hanging out with you, talking technology at
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if you hear something I mentioned on the show and
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are basically happening in real time, like everything's being written down.

(47:40):
Let's go to Gordon. Gordon is in Costa Mesa. You're
on with Rich.

Speaker 8 (47:46):
Hey, Rich, I.

Speaker 14 (47:48):
Have a Asis laptop seventeen inch and it's eleven years old
and it's starting to fail, and I wanted to know
what brand is a good brand, whether I should stay
with Windows or Mac. I don't do a few bills

(48:10):
on the computer, but nothing really much.

Speaker 1 (48:15):
Uh as you're thinking of switching to Mac, well, I
don't know.

Speaker 14 (48:19):
I have never used the Mac. I always use Windows.
But a friend of mine was saying it was easy
to learn, but I.

Speaker 1 (48:29):
Don't know, I think it's easy to I mean, it's
definitely a change. I think that uh, you know, a
really really good MacBook, the MacBook Error is an excellent choice.

Speaker 2 (48:40):
But what do you What do you do on the computer?

Speaker 14 (48:44):
Mostly emails and just kind of surfing and you know,
we might get a wireless bill and I just and
it's paid with a credit card or bank account, so
it's not really on the computer that I have a
bank account number such and such.

Speaker 1 (49:07):
Well, look, I mean the main thing is that you're
You're probably gonna be fine with any computer. I think
it's really the specs that matter with these things, because
I assume you're just going to like go to get
like best Buy or something like that to buy one.

Speaker 14 (49:19):
Is that or are you going to try either that
or Costco?

Speaker 10 (49:23):
But oh yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 14 (49:25):
I need I need somebody to assist me to transfer
everything I have on the other computer to the new one.

Speaker 1 (49:33):
Yeah, that's also, well, that would be yeah, I mean
that would be a consideration, especially with this computer that
you have that's been around for a while. But again
I would recommend just you can dump all your files
onto like an external hard drive, and that's an easy
way to do it. But uh, okay, So when it
comes to the question of Mac versus PC, so you
already know PC, you already know how it works, so

(49:53):
I have no problem with you sticking with that. I
personally think that the MacBook Air is a really easy
to use computer that is.

Speaker 2 (50:01):
Going to last for a long time.

Speaker 1 (50:03):
I'm impressed that you got eleven years out of this
current laptop, so kudos to you for that. But you know,
when it comes to the new laptop, I think it
really comes down to the specs. So and Costco you mentioned,
that's a great place to start because they typically only
have a small selection of laptops, whether it is a

(50:24):
couple of Apple laptops or a couple of Windows laptops,
and they're all excellent. So you really cannot go wrong
with something that you buy at Costco. So if that's
if you do have a membership there, I would go
in there see what they have. And when it comes
to laptops on the Windows side, you know they have
some gaming laptops and things like that. You don't need those.
But if it's just a standard laptop like an a

(50:45):
sus or an Acer. I would get something that has
sixteen gigabytes of RAM. That's kind of the minimum that
I would look for. And then for the hard drive,
probably like a one terabyte hard drive. You could probably
be okay with a five to twelve gigabyte, but I
think a one terabyte drive along with sixteen gigabytes of
RAM is going to be best. And then when it

(51:06):
comes to the processor, when it comes to Intel, the
higher the number the better. And so if you're looking
at like say an Intel, you know they usually go
by Core I five, Core I seven, Core I nine.
If it's like a three, that's probably going to be
you know, that's on the low end of things. I
look for at least a five or a seven on

(51:27):
the Intel processors. So that's really what it comes down
to is look for those specs. Make sure you're getting
something that that it's decent specs that's going to last
you a long time, versus something that's just you know,
five hundred dollars a best Buy and it's like a
chromebook style thing and it's not going to last you
very long because you got a long time out of
this last computer. I'm very very impressed Now, when it

(51:49):
comes to the Apple side of things, the Apple the
MacBook Air M one is a little bit older. But
this thing was on sale for like seven hundred and
fifty dollars over the holiday, so I'm checking to see
what the price is now. Oh, it's still seven hundred
and fifty bucks. And so if you want to switch
to the Apple side of things, this MacBook Air from

(52:10):
twenty twenty has an M one chip. It only has
eight gigs of RAM and a two hundred and fifty
six gigabyte hard drive, so that on the on that aspect,
the spect are not very good. But this is going
to be a very fast computer and I think that's
and it's going to last a long time and there's
not a lot of bloatwear on the Mac computer. So
I hope that helps. But I would say go to

(52:31):
Costco and that's probably the best place to start. And
if you need to, you can email me a picture
of those the two that you're trying to decide between. There.
Believe me, people have done it before, so that might
be the best way to do it. All right, Thanks
for the call. Gordon calling in today from Costa Mesa. Okay,
so there is a new feature on the iPhone if
you have an iPhone that you need to enable. It

(52:54):
is called stolen Device Protection. This is an iOS seventeen
point three, So if you haven't updated your phone to
iOS seventeen point three, you'll need to do it. I
talked about this. This is all because of the Wall
Street Journal. If you turn on the setting, it will
now require your face ID or your fingerprint, or a
one hour delay before allowing big changes to your account

(53:17):
like changing your Apple ID password or disabling fine min
and so this will add an extra layer to your phone.
In case someone steals your phone and also figures out
your passcode, they won't be able to make major changes
to your phone that will enable them to not only
steal your phone, but also rob you of your identity
and your data and your financial apps. So it basically

(53:40):
puts one level of protection between you and the bad people.
Go to iPhone settings face ID, and it's under Stolen
Device Protection. If you don't see that new feature, you
got to do a software update again. iPhone Settings face ID,
Stolen Device Protection.

Speaker 2 (53:57):
Turn it on.

Speaker 1 (53:58):
Coming up next. Mitch Goldstone from scan my Photos dot Com.
Welcome back to rich on Tech. Rich DeMuro here hanging
out with you talking technology at Triple eight Rich one
oh one, that's eighty eight seven four two four one
zero one joining me in the studio Mitch Goldstone of

(54:21):
scan my Photos dot Com. Mitch, thanks so much for
joining me today, Rich.

Speaker 3 (54:26):
Pleasure is always for the guys.

Speaker 1 (54:28):
You. You're actually one of only two people who have
been in studio. First, yeah, you were the first, and
now you're actually the third because we've only had Jefferson Graham,
my friend.

Speaker 2 (54:37):
I know Jeff is the greatest guy in there. I
know he is a great guy.

Speaker 1 (54:40):
Okay. Oh and oh, Bobo reminded me, yeah, my son.
Do I have both my sons on? Yeah? Okay, no,
just one, just one? Okay, Parker was over the phone. Anyway,
So the reason you're here, we'll talk about scan my
photos dot Com and the fact that you run this
great business that helps you ble scan all of the
old photos and film reels and all that stuff. But

(55:03):
you also did something really interesting. You run a small
business and you somehow secured a five point five billion
dollar payment card settlement, and it all relates to this
you brought into prop. Tell me if you can hear this,
if you're of a certain age when you went to
the store. That's the sound you heard when you checked out.

(55:23):
It is a credit card. What do you call this thing?
Credit card?

Speaker 3 (55:27):
Imprinter with carbon copy receipts took three days to send
those to Miami. Millions of merchants took three days to
get their money. And that sounds so I have to say,
I'm humbled to be here today after last week's show
with my other hero, Joanna Stern.

Speaker 2 (55:41):
Oh yeah, she's great.

Speaker 1 (55:42):
She awesome, She is awesome and every time and she
emails you to say, hey, join and we come on show. Absolutely.
When when do you need me? Okay, So let's talk
about this settlement. So five point five to four billion
dollar anti trust class action settlement for merchants who accepted
Visa MasterCard from twenty four to twenty nineteen. So what

(56:04):
started you on this journey to try to get the settlement?
What was the problem?

Speaker 5 (56:07):
Rich?

Speaker 3 (56:08):
The problem was my business partner and I, Carl Berman,
ran the photo business, and we realized that everything got
less expensive and faster, much like Moore's law, everything but
one thing. Even with scanning. We digitized two pictures and
a second slides one every second, but credit card fees
kept on going up, so we were concerned. I reached

(56:30):
out to Visa and MasterCard. The biggest mistake they never
took my call from Purchase New York and in San Francisco,
and all I wanted to do was ask why are
these rates going up?

Speaker 2 (56:42):
So what are these fees? Just explain what those fees
are like.

Speaker 1 (56:45):
Every time when you use a credit card at a company,
or even a debit card or is this just credit
credit and debit card, they take a little patient, they
take a little portion, which is a big portion.

Speaker 3 (56:54):
It's tens of billions of dollars a year. Back then,
when you had the credit card imprint and carbon copies,
it was cost based. But what happened was I reached
out and found the most awesome law firm, Robins Kaplan
in Minneapolis. Out here in Century City, Craig Wildfang, Ryan,
the whole group. They're the ones that took on the
tobacco industry. Mister Wildfang was Janet Reno. Worked with Janet

(57:19):
Reno Department of Justice, and we got together and they
explained to me that Visa and MasterCard were both owned
by the same banks, Wells Fargo, ba of a chase,
all of them city and they also had the same
board of directors, and twice a year, millions of merchants
like scan my photos would get a letter saying your
rates are going up. But we got two letters, one

(57:40):
from Visa, one for MasterCard and on the same day
and the same rates.

Speaker 2 (57:44):
So I'm thinking, I don't want to throw out a
term like collusion.

Speaker 3 (57:47):
But five point five billion dollars in collusion took eighteen years.
Carl and I started in two thousand and five with this.
It's collusion, anti competitive price fixing. So the best part
about the lawsuit is once I followed as lead plaintiff,
Visa and MasterCard immediately went public, which confirmed that there

(58:11):
was a problem. And then they did the second thing
almost instantly, they created a separate board of directors because
the same guys are on Visa. So it took eighteen years.
It's a massive, its largest antitrust suit in US history.
And I know every one of your listeners around the
country right now who are business owners, are thinking, well,
how do I get involved?

Speaker 2 (58:31):
How do I get this money?

Speaker 1 (58:33):
But eighteen years, eighteen years, this took, and it's all
because of you, Like literally you.

Speaker 3 (58:39):
Well, but yeah, it's kind of like, you know Aaron
brockovic promos.

Speaker 1 (58:43):
I was going to say, I didn't.

Speaker 2 (58:44):
Yeah, you know, I have a story about that.

Speaker 3 (58:47):
I mentioned at cees at the Netflix Pavilion, I ran
into our dear friend Lance all and Off and I
was chatting with him, and as soon as I left him,
these two guys came up to me and said, I
overheard what you guys were talking about. One is movie
producer and another is a screenwriter. And they were saying,
Oh my god, this is like the next Aaron Brockovitz
two point zero.

Speaker 1 (59:07):
We're going to see a movie with mention it. Oh,
more like Matt Damon.

Speaker 3 (59:10):
There's a lot I don't know, but it was really
it was so inspiring. They were excited with it. But
the point now is people aren't taking this seriously. You know,
if you have a class action envelope, you throw it away,
it's for a penny or a coupon. Rich this is thousands, tens,
hundreds of thousands of dollars based on the size of
the business.

Speaker 1 (59:31):
It is huge.

Speaker 3 (59:32):
So I helped design When people go to the scan
my Photos website, all the information is there. You'll see
the claim form. Carl and I helped design it. We
have barcode in it, so you just scan the barcode.
It takes a second. So now there are all these
other companies that are trying to help businesses with undisclosed fees.
One company all over on TikTok Social is saying for

(59:56):
forty percent will handle everything for you.

Speaker 1 (59:58):
No please everyone. So so just to get this straight,
there is a direct way to do this where you
can file you know, your claim, I guess. But then
there's these other klingon companies that are coming out of
the woodwork saying, hey, we'll do this for you. You
tell us how much. We'll fill out all the information,
but we're going to take a cut of that. Don't
like a third party, you don't want to do that.

Speaker 3 (01:00:16):
No, and you received one as well in the mail, right.

Speaker 1 (01:00:18):
So is this real?

Speaker 5 (01:00:19):
This is?

Speaker 6 (01:00:20):
So?

Speaker 2 (01:00:20):
This is the real one.

Speaker 5 (01:00:21):
That is it?

Speaker 3 (01:00:22):
And all you have to do is fill it out.
It takes a second. There's a bar code in it.
And because there's so many millions, I never thought i'd
be moiles. There are millions of merchants, businesses that are
in business that are also no longer in business. So
we're sending out a million a day, a million of
those every day. And the important thing is all the

(01:00:45):
giant big companies know about this and they're having.

Speaker 2 (01:00:49):
People figure it out.

Speaker 1 (01:00:50):
Right.

Speaker 3 (01:00:51):
I want all small businesses to take advantage of this.
The average is like five percent of people ever redeemed. No,
this needs to be one hundred percent. We need every
small business And the problem is if you don't fill
that out, it just goes into the pool. So everyone
who did gets more. But if you're no longer in business,
and I know a lot of people that listen to

(01:01:11):
rich and tech from you and from years ago, may
no longer be in business, you still get it from
two thousand and four to twenty nineteen, and all you
have to do is fill out the form. We put
everything on the scan my Photos website as well. If
you just go to in the news or the blog,
right up front all the information and there's a direct

(01:01:33):
link to help with the claims administrator. All of that
so really easy.

Speaker 1 (01:01:39):
So the official website is Paymentcard Settlement dot com. Right okay,
scan my Photos dot com will also have a link.
You might have gotten a letter in the mail that
says it's time to file your claim for your share
of the five point five plus billion dollar settlement if
you accepted Visa or MasterCard from January first, two thousand
and four through January twenty fifth, twenty nineteen, and it's

(01:02:01):
it comes from the payment card Interchange Fee settlement. So again,
if you ran a small business and you know, even
if you're not running that business anymore, you may have
a portion of this money coming your way, but you
have to put in the claim for it.

Speaker 3 (01:02:14):
You do, and we want as many people as possible.
That's way even on Twitter at the scan my photo
c or credit card. So on Twitter the address is
scan my photo CEE. Just reach out to us, ask
us any questions, let us know did you get one
of these? Did you not? Do you have any questions
and we'll put your right in charge with the claims adjuster.

Speaker 1 (01:02:35):
Okay, So now that you did this, Mitch, I mean,
has anything changed with the way credit cards are taken
at businesses? Everything?

Speaker 3 (01:02:45):
All the technology has changed because back then you'd have
to swipe the card. Now they're all the security features
are in it with the the chip, the chip, all
of that. So all of the reasons the bank said
we need to charge lots of money because of fraud.
Fraud has been vastly reduced because of how easy and

(01:03:05):
quick and instantaneous. When you use a debit card and
you go and you swipe it, money is instantly taken
out of your account, yet the merchant is still being
charged and interchange.

Speaker 1 (01:03:15):
Right because of that convenience. I always find it interesting
when I can't use my own card, when they're protecting
me from myself. I'm like, no, you're just protecting your bank.
You know that, you don't really care. You know, I've
been in Japan, I've been an other most of the time.
It happens when I'm traveling and all of a sudden,
it's like, you know, you try to use your card
that first you step off the plane. You try to
use your card, even debit or credit, and it's like

(01:03:36):
it gets locked up, and you're like, oh no, now
I got to deal with this card being locked up.
So thank you for doing that. It's very exciting. And
quickly before we go, give me an update on scan
myphotos dot com. This is a huge business that you
run just keeping people's memories digitized forever.

Speaker 3 (01:03:54):
It is well, we have crazy big news tomorrow. I'm
kind of precluded from talking about it yet, but people
will see it all over the country today with you, though,
I'd rather focus on the credit cards than the other part.
Things are going great and on that side, but this
is more about the millions of businesses out there, tiny

(01:04:15):
little businesses, big businesses. Please fill out the claim form.

Speaker 1 (01:04:20):
Absolutely you heard it from the man himself, Mitch Goldstone
of scan my photos dot com. Five point five billion
dollar payment card settlement. Go to the website payment Card
Settlement dot com or scan my photos dot com to
get more information and to submit your claim.

Speaker 2 (01:04:35):
Thanks so much for joining me in studio today.

Speaker 1 (01:04:37):
You're the best. Appreciate it rich On Tech dot TV.
Of course we'll have a link as well coming up
more of your questions at triple eight rich one on
one eighty eight seven four to two four one zero one.
Plus I will tell you about how Apple is making
some changes to their app store because of a European law.

Speaker 2 (01:04:55):
Coming up.

Speaker 1 (01:04:59):
Welcome, come back to rich On Tech. Rich DeMuro here
hanging out with you talking technology at triple eight rich
one oh one. That's eight eight eight seven four to
two four one zero one. Just had Mitch Goldstone in
here to talk about his Aaron Brockovic moment five point
five billion dollars. So if you ran a small business

(01:05:21):
between twenty four and twenty nineteen, accepted Visa and or MasterCard,
you might have some money coming your way. The website
once again payment Cardsettlement dot Com. Well, this week Apple
made some or is announced some major changes to the
way it's doing business in Europe, all in response to

(01:05:41):
this new Digital Markets Act, which takes effect in March
twenty twenty three. Over in Europe. This is all for
the EU. The reason I'm telling you this is because
a it is a huge shift in the way Apple
does business, because Apple historically, traditionally has run a very
clared shop. You buy the iPhone, they make the phone,

(01:06:03):
they make the software, they make the hardware, they make
the app store, they make the payment system. It is
all very apply and then all the accessories you buy
are mostly Apple stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:06:13):
As well.

Speaker 1 (01:06:14):
Over in Europe, they are trying to break down those walls,
and so Apple is making some changes to comply with
this new law. So number one, users are going to
be able to download apps from competing app stores outside
of the Apple App Store. That's for the first time
ever on Android We call this sideloading, and it's been

(01:06:36):
available and Android for many, many years. This is the
first time it's available on the iPhone in a big
way without jail breaking. Banks and other services will be
allowed to offer competing payment methods inside their apps, so
you no longer have to use Apple Pay as your default.
Maybe you want to use Samsung Pay, Maybe you want
to use PayPal pay, maybe you want to use Venmo pay,

(01:06:58):
maybe you want to use Google Pay.

Speaker 2 (01:07:00):
Whatever you want, you'll be able to do it.

Speaker 1 (01:07:03):
The new iPhones will show users an option to download
a different web browser like Chrome and Firefox as an
alternative to the Safari. You could already set a default
browser that is not Safari on the iPhone, but they
are going to also allow a different version of the
web browser to run. It's a little complicated, but basically

(01:07:23):
any web browser that you run on the iPhone still
in the background sort of runs the Safari framework. They
are now going to allow Chrome and Firefox to run
their own framework. The whole point of these changes is that,
you know, it's to limit the power of big tech
companies like Apple, Amazon, Meta, Google, Microsoft in areas like

(01:07:46):
app stores and payments, because right now they have a
lot of power. You buy the iPhone, you subscribe using
Apple Services to any app that you want to download
in there. Now, this is going to have profe implications,
mostly over in Europe, and I think that I don't
really see a lot of this stuff happening in the

(01:08:06):
US unless Apple is compelled to do it here for
some reason. But in Europe this is a huge shift,
and I'll be honest, there's a big debate online about
whether this is going to be good for consumers or
bad for consumers. I think that you can see both
sides of that. So on the one side, let's say
your kid plays roadblocks, and if you buy roebucks from

(01:08:29):
roadblocks directly on the iPhone, maybe they're cheaper than if
you buy the roebucks through Apple's payment system, and so
in that way it will be nice. But on the
flip side, and Apple has said that this is going
to open up a lot of security and privacy risks
for fraud, for hacks, and the reason for that is
that you can now get tricked much more easily on

(01:08:52):
an iPhone because you are using methods to pay, methods
to download apps that are not vetted, and so there
will be many opportunities where people will stumble because you
think you're buying one thing and it turns out you
might be buying another. So you're taking outside of that
guarded security wall that Apple offers right now, and it

(01:09:12):
is going to be kind of a free for all.
So we'll continue to watch that. But again, big changes
in the way that Apple is doing business over in Europe,
and it's going to be a big deal. Ed is
in Las Vegas? Ed, you're on with Rich?

Speaker 5 (01:09:29):
Rich?

Speaker 12 (01:09:29):
Here you doing?

Speaker 2 (01:09:30):
I'm doing fantastic?

Speaker 10 (01:09:31):
How are you good?

Speaker 6 (01:09:33):
Good?

Speaker 13 (01:09:33):
Good? I appreciate your show. I was listening to Leo
for years and said hi to Cam. That was great
to talk to her about. My question? Is here in Vegas?
And I never hear you mention it that they advertise
something called Tableau Ta b L Tableau TV and says
you can even record TV shows. It's supposed to be

(01:09:57):
I guess, kicking your table company to the curb getting
better TV service. Don't know much about it. Is it
worth looking into? Do you know anything about it?

Speaker 1 (01:10:06):
Yes? I just met with them when I was in
Las Vegas at CS a couple of weeks ago. Right,
it feels like forever ago, but it was just recent, right,
But yes, so and I and I used Tableau extensively
for the old model. I've not tested the new model,
but they are sending me that. And so the new model,
which is the one you're probably seeing advertised, looks like

(01:10:29):
a circular puck.

Speaker 2 (01:10:31):
It's got an.

Speaker 1 (01:10:32):
Area on the back where you can attach a antenna,
so you'll need an antenna, and then it has a
built in DVR and there's no subscription, so it is free.
And so what you do is you plug in the
antenna into this device. You got to make sure you
have a good signal for that, and it will allow
you to record shows and you know, just like you
would on a TVO back in the day or any

(01:10:54):
other DVR. And there's really there's really no downside to this.
You get fifty hours of internal storage, you can add
external storage.

Speaker 2 (01:11:04):
It works over Wi Fi.

Speaker 1 (01:11:06):
And the cool thing is anything that's recorded onto this device,
you can watch it on any device in your home.
So inside the house, this little device becomes almost like
a you know, like a DVR for every device. So
if you want to watch the show on your phone,
you can watch it on your phone. If you want
to watch it on your smart TV. You can watch
it on your smart TV. It's pretty easy to set up.

(01:11:27):
You get a fourteen day channel guide for free and
again no subscription fees. So the main things you don't
get no four K support, no you know, no watching
outside of the house. And it is a little buggy.
From my friends that have used this, they say that
there are some software bugs. But Tableau this is brand

(01:11:47):
new for the second generation of it, and it was
just purchased by Scripts, by the way, the big news company,
and so they are pushing this thing hard. And I
believe the price is about one hundred dollars, so I
say one hundred percent. If you have a good signal
over the air and you want to get over the
air shows and you want to record them, absolutely go

(01:12:09):
for the Tableau. I think it's a fantastic device. Just
be aware of the software bugs that you might encounter,
but know that they are continually upgrading and making this
thing better. Thanks for the call today, Ed in Las Vegas,
Triple eight Rich one O one eight eight eight seven
four to two four one zero one. Welcome back to
rich on Tech. Another hour of the show coming your way,

(01:12:34):
plus time for your calls to Triple eight Rich one
on one. That's eight eight eight seven four to two
four one zero one. This is a show where I
talk about technology and answer your questions. It's the tech
stuff I think you should know about. It's a lot
of stuff to tell you about here, But silly me,
I've been telling you all these you know, different web

(01:12:55):
addresses to go to. But the easiest place I forgot
about this feature on the website that has a nice
big banner at the top. So if you go to
rich on tech dot tv, just tap the big red
banner at the top and that'll take you right to
the links for today's show. So I know I've mentioned
a lot of stuff. I mentioned that just watch app
for the streaming services. I mentioned this sole and device

(01:13:17):
protection for your iPhone that you should turn on. I
mentioned the link to check if your data is involved
in that mother of all data breaches. We mentioned the
one plus twelve smartphone, the payment card settlement, Tableau TV,
so many different things. So if you want links to
anything that I mentioned, just go to rich on tech
dot tv hit the big red banner up at the top.

(01:13:40):
Coming up this hour, I'm gonna tell you about being ghosted.
What the Better Business Bureau says, you can get ghosted
by your tax preparer. You don't want that to happen.
New Pixel features coming soon to the Pixel that. I've
played with them and they are pretty cool. Plus, we
have a guest, John Faulkner of Clean Fleet Report is

(01:14:01):
going to have his review of the Kia EV nine.
This is the three row s u V e V
first of many. First, let's go to Matt in Seal Beach, California. Matt,
you're on with Rich Rich. Hi, welcome to the shop.

Speaker 9 (01:14:19):
I've got a networking question for you. I recently upgraded
my internet service to two point five gigabits. They provided
me with an euro Mesh system, okay, which is which
is great, works awesome. The problem I'm having is on
the Euro there is there is a one gigabit jack

(01:14:40):
and a two point five bigabit jack. I would love
to get two point five gigabits coming out of that
through a hard line, but I'm unable to because the
only two point five big a bit jack is taken
up by the connection from the O n T to
the mesh system. And I'm basically looking for a unit
that has you know, multiple two point five out or

(01:15:01):
a solution to get that that hard line.

Speaker 1 (01:15:05):
Oh so you're saying that the two point five jack
is taken up by the INN and the out is one.

Speaker 9 (01:15:11):
Yeah, the out of the one, So I can I
can only get one out, which is you know, I
get It's great, I get like nine and eighty up
and down. Yeah, really like the two point five.

Speaker 6 (01:15:21):
If I could.

Speaker 1 (01:15:21):
Yeah, if you can get well, okay, So first off,
what you have is like relatively new and very high speed.
So yeah, most of these home networking solutions that are
out do not have capabilities for that just yet because
it is so new and it's so high end. Now
with that said, there is a new euro called the
Eero Max seven and it is it's pretty intense. I

(01:15:46):
mean you're talking. This thing is five hundred and ninety
nine dollars for a one pack, and uh, if you
look on this thing, this is meant for these super
high internet standards that you're that are now starting to
come about. Like at my house, I have a one
gigabit connection, but they actually I think it goes up
to five gigabits in my house. I've not upgraded that

(01:16:08):
because I just don't need that much, but it is
nice to have if you can, so I think the
short answer is most of these are not meant for
that type of speed just yet. We're just starting to
see them come into the marketplace. So if I were you,
I would take a look at the super high end
offerings from You already have euro so it may be

(01:16:31):
worth it to just see if you can add one
of these. It's called the EO Max seven. See if
you can add that to the mix. And I think
it should be backwards compatible with your other devices. So
you would have to spend six hundred bucks on this thing,
which is a lot. I don't know if this thing
has gone on sale just yet, you know, I mean

(01:16:51):
it's on sale, like available. I don't know if it's
actually been discounted yet. But that's probably the one that
you want to look at to see if they have
if that'll do what you need. But this one definitely
handles speeds up to nine point four gigabits wired and
wireless up to four point three gigabits, so that would

(01:17:11):
definitely take care of what you need if you're looking
for that high end speed. Otherwise, you know, I'm looking
at the back of it by the way, and there
are one two, three four ports on the back and
there's two two point five gigabit ports and then ten
to ten gigabit ports, so you would be covered with that.

Speaker 2 (01:17:29):
But that's six hundred dollars.

Speaker 1 (01:17:31):
So that's probably the easiest way to add it to
your system is just to go with the Eero Max
seven and that's probably going to take care of it.
But again, if you want to switch to a different system,
I would just take a look at the super high
end like ORB or TP link whatever they have that's
like they're almost their their max or there you know,
pro level systems, because that's what's going to have these speeds.

(01:17:53):
But we're going to see much more of this come
about in the next six months to a year, probably
see many more of these. K for the question, Matt,
You've got some serious speed. Matt's got a serious need
for speed there in Seal Beach. Thanks for the call today,
Triple eight Rich one on one eight eight eight seven
four to two four one zero one. Gary writes in Hey, Rich,

(01:18:16):
you mentioned that Samsung is providing seven years of security
updates with the S twenty four. How long will they
provide monthly updates. Samsung doesn't make it easy to find
this information. The S nine started with monthly updates, then
went to quarterly, then semi annual. Their mid range phone
start with quarterly then go to semi annual. Is Google
any better in this regard? Do they offer monthly updates
for the seven years on the Pixel eight? I'd like

(01:18:37):
an Android phone that provides monthly security updates as long
as possible. Thanks Gary, Well, Gary, you're right that the
new Samsung does offer seven years of OS and security updates,
and on the Pixel eight lineup, they're also offering seven
years of updates as well. Now here's the thing. Nobody
is guaranteeing the frequency of those updates. So with Google,

(01:19:00):
they used to guarantee that the updates would come out
on a monthly basis, the first Monday of the month.
They have gone away from that. And the reason they've
gone away from it is because people were setting their
calendars to it and then getting angry when they didn't deliver,
and that puts a lot of pressure on the company,
especially over seven years, to come out those software updates.
So Samsung has said, yes, we will support this for

(01:19:20):
seven years, but we're not going to give you a
rundown of exactly the timeline of that, so it may
come out, you know, when necessary, but they will keep
it up to date. Same thing with Pixel phones. They
are now just coming out with the updates as necessary
when they can, on their own schedule. So that's the
deal with that. Tony writes in Hey, Rich, after listening

(01:19:44):
to your podcast, I heard a caller talking about Verizon
quietly raising their prices without us knowing. I immediately checked
my bill, and yes they are. I'm tired of their antics.
Living in New Jersey and I travel along the East coast,
Verizon is dominant. I'm thinking of at least switching to
their Visible and going with a thirty five dollars plan.
I drive all night and I stream a lot. My
question is if I switch my iPhone and Apple Watch

(01:20:05):
to Visible and then next year upgrade my phone, it
doesn't give Visible as a provider when I check out
and using Apple's finance for two years, it only gives
AT and T, T Mobile and Verizon. Would I just
choose Verizon as always? Thank you sir for what you do, Tony. Uh, Tony, No,
you could not just choose Verizon. You can you can't

(01:20:26):
just choose Verizon because you're that's for a Verizon plan.
So if you're going with a visible plan, the whole
thing is that you would actually get a cheaper price
on the plan over the couple of years. So they're
not going to give you that financing deal. Now, if
you've heard from me, I don't recommend financing in general.
I always say save up for it and buy it
out right if you can. I understand that most people

(01:20:48):
don't like to do that these days, but you know,
I'm just telling you what I feel. But Apple does
have a program called the Apple iPhone Upgrade Program, and
that is basically their own own version of a financing
program that gives you a new iPhone, you know, every
twelve months or every year, whatever it is.

Speaker 2 (01:21:07):
They have their own sort of program.

Speaker 1 (01:21:09):
So that's if you want to split up that payment
and not pay the full price outright, that is the
program that you would have to choose. You can't just
choose the AT and T or the team OB or
the Verizon because you do have to have an active
plan with those carriers to take advantage. And the reason
why is because they're making money on you staying with
them and paying an inflated price every month to stay

(01:21:30):
with them. So yes, you can get the Visible service
for thirty five bucks a month or one of these
other MV and o's that are much cheaper. But if
you're on one of these big unlimited plans, which you
typically have to do to get that financing or that
quote unquote free phone, they're making, you know, twenty thirty
dollars off of you every month kind of built into
the price of your plan. If you do the math

(01:21:50):
and you look at the old plans that used to
pay for your phone, like let's say five, six, seven
years ago, when you paid two hundred dollars for a smartphone,
basically you would pay less for your phone, but more
for your plan. Now you just pay more for your
plan and are less for your plan and more for
your phone. It's all the same. The math works out
at the end of the year, if you do it

(01:22:10):
like three years, it's about the same exact price. They
just moved things around. It's like a it's like one
of those games, you know with the cups and the balls.
Is there a name for that game? Bobo is laughing.
Bobo really perked up there. I don't know what I
said it's a cups and balls game. I mean, come on,

(01:22:32):
that's what it is. I'm sure there's a name for it.
Let's see cups. I just keep saying cups and balls. No,
it's a cups and balls game. It's a it's a
magic game. Yeah, see Bobo. Get all right? Triple A
Rich one o one eighty eight seven four two four
to one zero one. Uh. Coming up, we're gonna talk

(01:22:53):
to John Faulkner of Clean Fleet Report. He's going to
review the Kia EV nine. The website once again, rich
on tech dot TV. If you're not following me on Instagram,
I highly recommend that you do that.

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(01:23:48):
Rubyl wrote in on Twitter or I guess formerly known
as Twitter now X. The cups and balls is called
shell game.

Speaker 2 (01:23:55):
There you go.

Speaker 1 (01:23:56):
See that's what I knew. There was a term I knew.
There's the term. Bobo say, has never heard of it? Yeah,
it's like to shell It's something.

Speaker 2 (01:24:03):
All right.

Speaker 1 (01:24:03):
Let me get through a few news news spots before
we get to John Faulkner of clean Fleet Report to
talk about the Kia EV nine. It is tax season.
I'm sure you're getting things going for the tax year.
I'll tell you about my favorite app by the way
that I use. It's called fly finn Ai, and it
is incredible. If you're a freelancer or you keep track
of like anything that you could write off at the

(01:24:24):
end of the year, fly finn uses AI to figure
out what those things might be. So you basically link
it up to your checking account or your credit card
or your debit card and all the little like items
the transactions it will identify and like, let's say you
make a transaction that you know, you buy a plane ticket,
It'll be like, well, was this for business? And you

(01:24:44):
can keep it and then give that's your tax person,
or they can do the taxes later. Again, that's called
fly finn Ai really cool iOS and Android. Speaking of taxes,
don't be ghosted by your tax preparer. According to the
Better Business Bureau, these are fly by night tax preparation offices.
They offer large or fast refunds, and at the end

(01:25:06):
of the day they ask you to sign your own
tax return even though they prepared it. That is the
red flag. They don't use a prepare tax ID number,
which if you are using someone to prepare your taxes,
they have to sign them with this P ten PTI
N prepare tax ID that basically links them to your taxes.

(01:25:26):
Doesn't put you, you know, it doesn't take you off
the hook if something goes wrong, but just the irs
knows that someone helped you with your taxes. So what
these people do is they help you with your taxes,
they get you this big refund or whatever they promise it,
and then they they're never to be found again, and
then you're stuck with a major headache. So only allow
your refunds to be deposited in your own account. Review

(01:25:47):
your return, make sure it has the proper signatures on it.
Watch out for any of these pop up tax prep
places that may try to ghost you and leave you
with a major headache.

Speaker 2 (01:25:58):
Just be wary.

Speaker 1 (01:26:00):
This is really cool. I sat through talk about boring.
I sat through a government zoom session on this new
IRS Direct File free tax filing, and it was great
because I learned a lot about it. But it was
like over an hour and it's like, Okay, can you
get to the point here, like what you know? But
the IRS is launching this thing called direct File, and

(01:26:21):
this is a new free online tax filing service. It's
a pilot with only twelve states this year, but it
means you can completely file your taxes through the IRS
website for free. And they're doing it in Alaska, Arizona, California, Florida, Massachusetts,
New Hampshire, New York, Nevada, Hey you say Nevada, South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas, Washington,

(01:26:47):
and Wyoming. And so this doesn't necessarily have income limits,
but it does have certain situations that apply. So if
you have like a lot of deductions, or you have
a whole bunch of like interests or something like that,
you won't be able to use it. But you can
look on the direct file website and see if you
can do this, and if you can, it's all free.

(01:27:07):
And so this is for your federal tax filing. You'll
still have to file your state taxes the other way.
But this is all because TurboTax, which was trusted previously
with the free tax filing, basically allegedly hid their free
service from Google searches and tricked people into paying for
stuff they didn't need to pay for. So the IRS

(01:27:27):
trusted into it TurboTax with the free file service for
many years, and people would get there and they think
they're filing for free, and then all of a sudden
they be like, oh no, you got to pay this amount.
And so now the IRS is doing their own thing
and of course into it and TurboTax say they did
nothing wrong.

Speaker 2 (01:27:45):
But you know, this is going to be much easier.

Speaker 1 (01:27:47):
So if you want to do this direct file thing,
if you want to see if you qualify, it's not
available just yet, but you can read about it on
the website IRS dot gov gov. Do not go to
IRS dot com. That is not an official website. You
will be scammed, or at least you will be. Let's
see what does that go to IRS dot com. That
takes you to I'll see what. That takes you to

(01:28:10):
IRS dot gov. Slash direct file that will take you
to the official one. IRS dot com is a okay,
it's a way to like pay your taxes and stuff.
But it's not affiliated with the government, so they're sort
of come on, government, like, you should just take that
website because that's that's probably confusing to a lot of people.
New pixel features coming out January thirty. First, you now

(01:28:32):
have two new pixel phones in Mint. Pixelate Pixelate Pro
are available in this new Mint color. Pixelate Pro can
now take body temperature using the thermometer app. I tested
this out. It is so cool. It feels like the future.
You take the phone, you wave it over your forehead
and it will take your temperature. And it took a

(01:28:52):
lot for Google to figure this out, but this was
now we know when the when the Pixel eight pro
first came out, had this little had this little temperature
sensor on it, and we're like, this thing is pointless
because you can only use it to take the temperature
of objects, like they said, you cannot use this on people. Well,
the plan all along was to get this thing to
a place where you could use it on people. And

(01:29:12):
it was very complicated because you're holding your phone over
your forehead and swiping it. So Google had to come
up with a lot of different things and algorithms and
a way to help you do that. And it's really good.
And so now if you have a Pixelate Pro, you
can update the thermometer app and it will take temperature
of humans. The other feature coming out is circle to Search.
I've already talked about how cool that is. You can

(01:29:34):
search anything on your phone just by circling it or
scribbling over it. That is going to make Instagram stalking
so much easier. And I joke, but if someone shares
a pair of sneakers that they have, like the other day,
someone posted last night a picture of a meal they
were having and on the plate it said.

Speaker 2 (01:29:50):
The name of the place. I was like, Oh, that
looks cool.

Speaker 1 (01:29:52):
So I just circled to search found the place and
I was like, ah, that's a cool looking place. That
would have taken me like ten extra steps to get
to previous.

Speaker 2 (01:30:01):
All right, they're playing me off.

Speaker 1 (01:30:03):
Coming up, John Faulkner of Clean Fleet Report, we'll talk
about the Kia EV nine. My name is Rich Dumiro
and you are listening to rich on Tech. Welcome back
to rich on Tech. Rich Demiro here hanging out talking
technology with you the website rich on Tech dot tv.
You heard me mention something you want to get a

(01:30:24):
link for. Just go to the website. Hit the big
red banner at the top of the screen that says
heard it mentioned on the radio, Easy as that there
are a whole bunch of three row electric SUVs set
to hit the market. One of the first is the
twenty twenty four Kia EV nine. John Faulkner of Clean

(01:30:46):
Fleet Report has driven it. John, Welcome to the show.

Speaker 8 (01:30:50):
Hello, Rich good speak with you.

Speaker 1 (01:30:52):
Good to have you so welcome to the show. Let's
talk about these three row SUV evs. First off, this
is kind of like the Holy Grail for the US
because people love their big SUVs.

Speaker 8 (01:31:05):
I've been asked for so long, when is a company
going to come out with a three row electric suv?
A true three row. Now, there are SUVs that are
electric that are still the habitaord row, but not really.
This one is a true third row. You can get
two full size adults in the third row with leg

(01:31:28):
room and the back seat and a third row reclients,
so you have nice headroom also, so.

Speaker 1 (01:31:33):
This is uh, this is basically room for seven. Is
that right?

Speaker 8 (01:31:37):
It's if you get the bench seat, you have seven.
If you get the captains chairs in the second row
you have you have six, two four six.

Speaker 1 (01:31:47):
Okay, oh captains, Wow, they offer that. I remember when
we were shopping for an SUV, we really wanted the
captain's seats in the second row because then you don't
have to move the row or the you know, the
seats every time you want to get into the back, which.

Speaker 8 (01:32:01):
Is really something that Key has done nicely. Onto EV nine.
The second row captain source chairs not only slide, but
they fold, therefore getting into that third row even for
a large person someone me, You're you're taller than me,
you'd have no problem getting it at all.

Speaker 1 (01:32:17):
Okay, okay, So this car gets anywhere from two hundred
and thirty to three hundred and four miles of range.
You've got fast charging, you can get one hundred miles
of range in ten minutes. Let's talk about kind of
like the basics of this car. So what do you
get for this price of what fifty seven thousand starting at.

Speaker 8 (01:32:37):
The yes, now well, including including the fourteen hundred ninety
five dollars destination charge, which is mandatorque. You can't get
around paying that.

Speaker 7 (01:32:46):
Wow.

Speaker 8 (01:32:46):
Base the base model light or wheel drive single motor
is fifty six three ninety five and that's two hundred
and two and fifteen horse power to fifty eight torque.
Then you then move up and they have another single
motor called the Light Long Range, and that gets you
that three hundred and four driving range. Then you start

(01:33:07):
getting into the all wheel drive models, and those are
the ones that have all will drive dual motors. Two
hundred and thirty for the Wind, two eighty for the
Land Model, and the one that I drove is the
GT Line and that's two hundred and seventy miles, but
that has the most horse power and power and torque

(01:33:29):
and it's a So when it comes down to which
one you're looking for, this is a true family vehicle,
and Kia has made a statement that they are going
after families, and so you have to make a decision
do you want because that is a price bread fifty
six three ninety five to seventy five three ninety five,

(01:33:50):
So you have to say, okay, do I want that?
Extra horse power and torque when you get into the
all will drive once you could tow up to five
thousand pounds, So maybe that's the sideration. But if you're
just driving around town doing a lot of commuting and such,
probably the best one is the light long range where
will drive single motor. That's sixty thousand and sixty ninety

(01:34:13):
five and that's your three hundred and four all electric
driving range.

Speaker 2 (01:34:17):
Now, what's this?

Speaker 1 (01:34:18):
I read in your review that you can pay for
boost mode.

Speaker 2 (01:34:22):
What's that mean?

Speaker 8 (01:34:23):
Yes, you could pay one time for boost so's it's
it's a subscription plan, but this one is a one
time payment and what that'll do is that will give
you extra power for a short amount of time. Now,
you drove the EB six, yes, yes, and remember that
had the boost button, so that's what this would be also,

(01:34:45):
but that does not come standard on any of these models.
You have to pay extra for that.

Speaker 1 (01:34:50):
We're starting to see more and more of that where
it's like an add on after you purchase it. So
the range, Now, because this is such a large vehicle,
how does it compare to other evs on the market.

Speaker 8 (01:35:03):
Well, if you're looking at a if you're if you're
looking at a vehicle that weighs in over this, like
over five pounds, and it's a gasoline that's probably getting,
you know, in the mid twenties, high twenties, you can
you can just kind of figure out what it would be. Also,
the the the consideration though, obviously with any EV is

(01:35:25):
how far are you going to go? And as soon
as you as soon as you load down an EV
with people and gear, and then your range is going
to drop. And that's that that isn't a mystery to anybody.
So it really comes down to how are you going
to use this vehicle? If you're going to be doing

(01:35:45):
a lot of driving, then in long distances, then you
may want to be going with either a hybrid or
a plug in hybrid suv or a pure gasoline model.

Speaker 1 (01:36:00):
But if you're just driving to and you know, driving
the kids to and from school every day, just like
you know, general kind of day to day around town
kind of stuff, and you have a charger at home,
that's really kind of the sweet spot, right well.

Speaker 8 (01:36:14):
It is, and the and even on a level one
one and twenty volt regular outlet at your house, you
would still get about forty to fifty miles of range
overnight just plugging in for eight nine hours. And but
then if you do invest in a Level two UH
in your garage at your house, you're gonna you're gonna

(01:36:36):
be putting in all the range you're gonna need. And
if you're do need to go to a DC fast charger,
that's the beauty of this. That the eight hundred bolt
architecture that this vehicle has, you're gonna be able to
you can be able to get that. You're gonna be
able to get that extremely fast charging which is ten
to eighty percent and twenty five minutes, and that's that

(01:36:56):
that that's that's fast. If you're on a road trip,
if you're going from here to here to Las Vegas
and you need to stop, and again everyone listening, I'm
in southern California. So if you're driving California to Las Vegas,
you want to stop halfway there, you plug it in
and in twenty five minutes, after you've gone and gets
over to eat and drink, you're charged up again. You're

(01:37:16):
on your way again. So charging now is really not
the issue anymore as far as speed goes.

Speaker 1 (01:37:26):
Yeah, as long as you find a charger that is
you know, is a fast charger from here to Vegas.
Like you know, the last time I went for CS
they they've even got more chargers than before. I mean,
that's that's you know, California is pretty well covered with
chargers in places. It's it's when you get outside that
it could be trickier. What did you think about the
you know, since this is such a large ev what

(01:37:48):
do you think about the ride, the handling, acceleration.

Speaker 8 (01:37:51):
I'll tell you this, this was so smooth and so quiet,
and it's incredibly comfortable. The GT line has twenty one
eighth tires on it, but these are these are designed
to have load noise and and I mean it was
quiet inside. I mean and if you if, if you

(01:38:14):
really think that you need to drownd out any sound,
you're going to have that fourteen speaker seven ohndred night
Watt Meridian Premium audio system that sounds the best thing
you ever heard. So but you don't need that. It
is it's really quiet, it's really smooth, The handling is
really amazing. Obviously, with all wheel drive, which is the
model that I had, you have you have a you

(01:38:36):
have an electronic torque vectoring which basically in simple terms,
is it puts a power to the wheel that demands
it the most, so you're going around the corner it
needs it needs power to the right front wheel or
the left rear wherever. Once it does, it automatically seamlessly,
the cars just it handles amazingly.

Speaker 2 (01:38:56):
Well, got about a minute left.

Speaker 1 (01:38:58):
What is uh?

Speaker 2 (01:38:59):
What what's the competition for this?

Speaker 1 (01:39:01):
I'm assuming early competition is sort of like the Rivian
that's very expensive. What's the competition a gas car?

Speaker 8 (01:39:10):
That'd probably be the gas car the So right now,
the Model Y has a third row, but there's I
wouldn't even put your smallest kid back there. The There
are other three row SUVs and Ribbean R one s,
the Mercedes Benz eqs, and Balbo has the Ex ninety upcoming.

(01:39:30):
Those are all pure evs, but neither the Ribbean nor
then Mercedes has a third row of the same size
as this. Plus they're all over the eighty thousand dollars
federal tax credit limit. For that you can they should
qualify and all of the EV nine's fully loaded to
fall under that eighty thousand.

Speaker 1 (01:39:50):
Range, and that's seventy five dollars credit. It's a little
confusing because right now the initial models will will not
have that, but eventually they will be eligible.

Speaker 8 (01:39:59):
That's right, because the first ones that you can buy
now are built in Korea. The next ones are gonna
be built in Georgia, and that's later this year, so yes,
they will Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:40:10):
John Faulkner of a Cleanfleet Report Cleanfleetreport dot com you
can read his review of the twenty twenty four Kia
EV nine. I should call it the flash drive because
you'll have a full review soon. But this is kind
of like your initial impressions and things like that, but
it is quite thorough.

Speaker 2 (01:40:28):
So thanks for being on the show. Appreciate it today.

Speaker 8 (01:40:31):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:40:31):
Rich all Right, rich on Tech dot tv if you
want to link to that. Coming up, we are gonna
do the feedback you have been emailing me all throughout
the show. I will share what you're saying coming up
when rich on Tech returns. Welcome back to rich on Tech.

(01:40:52):
Rich Demiro here hanging out with you, talking technology the
website rich on Tech dot tv. Click the banner at
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and you can follow me on social media. I am
at rich on Tech. Let's get through a couple of
stories before I get to the feedback segment. Ring is
sunsetting its request for assistance tool in the Neighbors app.

(01:41:16):
So this was for law enforcement. If they needed help
with an investigation, they could put out a request for
assistance to people that may have ring video doorbells in
the area and get the video from those doorbells. But
of course, with the user permission, they would submit it.
But Ring says, you know what, We're not going this
direction anymore. Agencies can no longer use request for assistance

(01:41:39):
to obtain videos now they need a warrant. So they're
still inviting public safety agencies to post tips, updates, and
events in this app. But critics didn't like this. They
thought that they turned ring doorbells into too much of
a surveillance tool that was unchecked, and so law enforcement
now will need a warrant to request video. They could
still go door to door and ask for this stuff,

(01:42:01):
but it's not going to be an easy request for
assistance tool now inside the Neighbors app. Neighbors is kind
of like Rings version of Citizen. New Egg has a
new refurbished program so you can buy resale products top
pre owned products at competitive prices, Apple products, GPUs abs,

(01:42:21):
gaming PCs, monitors, laptops, tablets, phones, vacuums. It's all part
of New Egg Refreshed, and you get a ninety day
guarantee with this, so ninety days New Egg refresh if
you're looking for refurbished stuff at a cheaper price. US
Mobile this is maybe a carrier you haven't heard of,
but they have a very competitive plan now if you

(01:42:42):
pay for the whole year in advance, fifteen dollars a
month for a ten gigabyte data plan, unlimited talking, text,
ten gigabytes of hotspot, and international calling and texting. They
even have better plans that are a little bit more,
but US Mobile with a really really competitive plan fifteen
bucks a month for ten gigs of data, unlimited talk

(01:43:04):
and text, hotspot and international calling. Google has an app
called art Selfie two. This uses AI to transform your
selfies into over twenty five different historic art styles works
inspired by Claude Monet, Johannes Vermiir Renoir, and more. And

(01:43:25):
the cool thing about this not only is it fun
to see yourself in these styles, but then you get
little facts about the art style you so you're learning
while you're having fun with Generative AI. It's basically their
secret way of teaching you about art by doing something fun.
Art Selfie two is available through the Google Arts and
Culture app, So if you're a teacher out there, it's

(01:43:45):
kind of fun get this for your students. Google Arts
and Culture. It's available on iOS and androids called art
Selfie two.

Speaker 2 (01:43:52):
It's inside that app.

Speaker 1 (01:43:53):
If you have a Honda Accord from twenty eighteen to
twenty twenty two, you can get a retro fit to
get wireless Apple Car Play. They're going to offer this
starting late this month in January. You do have to
go to the Honda dealership to get this done. It
is a software update and it will probably cost something.
But if you want to get rid of the cables
on your Apple Car Play and you have a twenty

(01:44:14):
eighteen to twenty twenty two Honda Cord, this is going
to be an easy way to do that. If you're
waiting for that Apple Car to launch, well, it's been
pushed back. The car that we've heard so much about,
but yet see no evidence that it's coming out twenty
twenty eight at the latest. One hundred thousand bucks for
this car and it's not going to be as self
driving as Apple wanted. Apple. I'm telling you just buy Lucid,

(01:44:37):
solve all your problems. Buy Lucid today. You can have
an Apple car tomorrow. And Lucid basically operates like an
Apple car. It's about this, It's very similar. It's expensive,
it's premium, it's luxurious. It'd be a perfect match. Go ahead,
buy Lucid and you could get your Apple car soon.
You heard it here first. And finally, T Mobile Tuesday's
app it's switching to what's called Tea Life. This rolled

(01:45:00):
out to iOS devices on January twenty fifth. Android release
is coming soon. So basically, if you're using the T
Mobile Tuesday's app, it is now called Tea Life and
it has a whole bunch of other stuff inside the app,
so it's like not your account information, but it's like
more than just a T Mobile Tuesday's app.

Speaker 2 (01:45:19):
All right, feed.

Speaker 1 (01:45:20):
Bag segment Mark says, I'm looking for a device that
will mute commercials on TV automatically, so I don't have
to grab the remote, hit mute, then not leave the
room so I know when to unmute. Is there anything available?
Love Your Show on nine to ten am Detroit. I
don't know anything that's available to automatically mute commercials. Maybe
there is something, but I have not heard of it.
Pat says, hey, Rich, I just heard you talking about

(01:45:41):
AI fake images and audio. I have several solutions in
order of importance. Number one, people need to stop being
so stupid. Number two, who answers a robo call these days?
Stupid people? That's who? Well, I mean, you don't know
if it has the caller ID number three. Why would
appla it campaign think a fake AI robo call would

(01:46:02):
be useful? Because people are stupid? See the problem here
proved me wrong. The level of stupidity today is exponentially
higher than it was thirty years ago, headed towards idiocracy
at an accelerating pace. Pat, Yes, and no, I think
that we just have more access to information and things,
and it's just, you know, we know more about this stuff.

(01:46:22):
If someone got a fake phone call years ago or
saw an image on you know whatever sent to their house,
they wouldn't necessarily be able to share it with everyone else.
Now it's instant sharing everywhere, so we just know more
people that are falling for stuff. Renee says, Hey, we
heard you on your show talk about an app that
can be put on the phone and control another phone,
like adjust the volume, brighten the screen. I didn't catch

(01:46:42):
the name, and I want to look into it. My
father in law is constantly putting his phone on mute
or darkens the screen. He lives far away, and I
can help him a lot instead of calling the police
for a welfare check, then they have to fix his phone.

Speaker 2 (01:46:53):
Really wow, what is the name of this app? The
name of the app was Team Viewer.

Speaker 1 (01:46:59):
Team Viewer. That was the name of the app. Randall says,
I have an HP all in one twenty seven inch
Windows eleven PC. The RAM is sixteen. I like to
process raw files. Is upping my RAM to thirty two
gigabytes helpful? The PC will slow down well. Doubling my
RAM help absolutely. RAM will help with that. So I
think you'll be very happy with doubling that and it's

(01:47:21):
not very expensive to do that. Finally, let's read Steven's
email iPhone issue. I got hacked last week. Within three minutes,
I lost all my data on my iPhone thirteen. Apple
support is useless. A hacker can change my phone number
and password and Apple cannot change it back. They say
it's a security issue. I was in the middle of
a conversation when my phone shut down. Opened it up again,

(01:47:42):
and the message told me I had been locked out.
Conversations with Apple Support was a They said nothing they
can do. As the day passes, there are more inconveniences
to overcome. My Apple idea is worthless and I have
zero help. Backstory. I got an email from Apple Support
inform me I was charged thirty dollars. I checked there

(01:48:02):
was no such charge. I clicked here, being busy, I
received the email. I thought nothing of it. Three minutes later,
I was locked out. With as careful as I've always been,
I got sucker punched. Yes, this is a huge issue.
You were fished and they do this all the time.
Twenty four to seven. Please be careful and like I
said with my taxi story, when you're doing things fast

(01:48:24):
and hastily, that's when you fall victim to this stuff.
Steve and I feel for you. Believe me, sorry that
happened to you. If you can believe it, that's going
to do it. For this episode of the show, you
can find links to everything I mentioned. Just go to
richon tech dot TV. Find me on social media at
rich on tech next week we'll talk about the Apple
Vision Pro which is launching. Thanks so much for listening.
There are so many ways you can spend your time.

(01:48:46):
I do appreciate you spending it right here with me.
My name is rich Dimiro. I will talk to you
real soon

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