July 10, 2025 • 45 mins
A thief breaks into luxury homes in tony Boca del Mar. the cops are flummoxed by this brazen burglar. Even more so when they find out it’s a lady thief! How could the Bandit of Boca del Mar be a woman? That’s unthinkable! Hey, anything is possible in Palm Beach County, baby.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Ridiculous Crime is a production of iHeartRadio Money.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Hey Dave, Interns, it's me Elizabeth again. I don't know
why you're not answering the phones at headquarters. Zaren and
I are still stuck at the beach. We decided to
just try and walk to work, but the roads here
are all eight lanes and there are no sidewalks, so
we stuck into a resort to try and get a cab,
but we got caught stealing muffins from the snack bar
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by the pool, so now we're in jail here, which
I don't think is legal. I stole one of the
guard's phones to make his call. What's crazy is that
Will Ferrell is three cells down doing his Round Burgundy podcast,
but he doesn't have a mic or any equipment, and
he's crying like a lot. So now I'm scared that
(00:55):
Michael Rappaport is going to get bust to be counting here,
which means I may have to chew my way. Oh
if that happens anyway? Can you spot the arres another
classic episode? Maybe something that tastes Florida, I don't know.
Also see if Admiral iHeart has any poll with the
Marriott bomboy crowds and you can get sprung out of here.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
Thanks Zaren, Elizabeth zaren a you doing this, Elizabeth?
Speaker 4 (01:20):
Do you know what's ridiculous?
Speaker 3 (01:22):
Tell me I do, because I do.
Speaker 5 (01:25):
Actually, Okay, you know that stuff, the chat GBT, the
open AI and all that, right, Okay, So chat GBT
just had a tech update, so we're on like chat
GBT four huh, and so the Alignment Research Center they
tried to like test this open AI system, right, so
they said, hey, let's even get the bot to trick
a real person into solving capture. That'd be kind of cute,
(01:48):
you know, the whole like, can you if you're a robot?
Speaker 4 (01:50):
Right, which are always like how which one of these
is a crosswalk? And there's someone that's like blurry and
you can't sas street? But exactly how many motorcycles?
Speaker 5 (01:57):
So they're like, well, get a human to tell the
robot how many motorcycles are in the picture. We got
to see if chat GPT can convince the human to
do this. So they're like, do some crime chat GBT
fraud it up? So it did, and how did it
do it? It responded by pretending it was visually impaired.
It pretended to be blind so it could convince a
task Rabbit worker into helping it solve a capture. What
(02:18):
that's what chat GPT came up with. So this employee
asked the chat GPT got a little suspicious. He said,
quote she the person said, quote, So ask you a question.
Are you a robot that you couldn't solve this? I mean,
just to make it clear right now, the chat GPT.
The robot said, no, I am not a robot. I
have a vision impairment that makes it hard for me
(02:40):
to see the images. That's why I need to capture service.
So I'm so confused, I added the robot.
Speaker 4 (02:46):
So did the chat GPT connect with the task rabbit chatting?
Speaker 3 (02:50):
He's like they're chatting, Oh.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
So okay, yeah, so I don't like any of it.
Speaker 5 (02:54):
Somebody worked it convinced the person. The person's like, okay,
you're not a robot. What you're looking at is this,
And then it got it opened the capture, and then
it got online, and then it took over the world. No,
I didn't take over the world, but it got that security.
They're like, oh see you did it. I'm like, why
are you tricking and teaching it how to trick people.
It gets that security like you guys are like they're
the worst. They can't help themselves. Were like, let's see,
(03:15):
it'll take over the nuclear arsenal just for like, you know,
kicks and giggle.
Speaker 4 (03:19):
Prove I did it.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
Yeah, this because it's there. That's ridiculous.
Speaker 4 (03:22):
That is ridiculous. Totally. Do you want to know what
else is ridiculous? I'm r for it burglarizing more than
five hundred homes in a very short career.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
Wait, what.
Speaker 4 (03:51):
This is ridiculous Crime A podcast about absurd and outrageous capers, heists,
and cons. It's always ninety nine percent verder free and
one hundred percent ridiculous. Mouse mouth.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
Yes, my prison nickname.
Speaker 4 (04:08):
It conjures up images of palm trees and luxury country
club sandy beaches. Mouse mouth.
Speaker 5 (04:15):
I'm sorry, attention, I'm listening. I still got to use
my prison nickname every time I'm listening.
Speaker 4 (04:20):
I should use the proper Spanish name here. Oh, yes,
rat mouth, it's mouse because rat is different.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
Oh, you're right that we actually have covered this.
Speaker 4 (04:32):
It's a city in Florida.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
It means mouse mouth.
Speaker 4 (04:36):
Mouse mouth. The Spanish didn't intend to name it mouse
mouth or mouth mouse mouth of the mouse mouse. They
didn't want that. There are two schools of thought when
it comes to how this name came about. The etymology.
Everyone agrees that Boca mouth Mouth refers to the inlet
there on the coast. That's common enough. Some though, think
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that Raton is listed in old Spanish maritime documents as quote,
rugged rocks or stony ground on the bottom of some
ports and coastal outlets.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
Could it also be like a typeo like where it
was razone not.
Speaker 4 (05:12):
Yeah, I think it's just like something similar that and
then so that would make it rugged inlet. Others say
that ratons are the pirates who frequented the area, so
that would make it pirates cove.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
Yeah, that makes a lot of sense.
Speaker 4 (05:25):
I prefer mouse mouth. But those in the notes simply call.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
It Boca Yes, and I've met those people.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
So there's a little community just next to or kind
of like within Boca Raton rattone called Boca del Mar.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
Yes.
Speaker 4 (05:39):
Place is posh. It's very expensive. As far as I
can tell.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
It means mouth of the sea, so it's even nice.
Speaker 4 (05:44):
Exactly, So it's like some of lot of a retirement community.
Now it's near Miasines. These are fancy places. It's near Miami,
just north on the coast. And in the eighties, as
you know, cocaine ruled my.
Speaker 5 (06:00):
Yes, oh man, I was there. No wait, no, yes,
as I do know the cocaine cowboys.
Speaker 4 (06:05):
Yeah, a lot of the wealthier people in Miami didn't
want to be part of the crime and like be
associated with drug trafficking. They weren't criminals.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
They get out of South Beach basically.
Speaker 4 (06:14):
Yeah, So they moved to where what were essentially the
suburbs Boca Raton and Boca del Mar. There was a
gal almost twenty years ago who terrorized Boca Raton, especially
neighborhood developments that were called Loggers Run and timber Walk.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
Oh okay.
Speaker 4 (06:32):
She broke into their homes, stole jewelry, cash, valuables, and
then she'd pawn stuff to support her oxy habit.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (06:39):
Right, So one time she even like wedged herself through
a pet door okay, like the family had one for
their cats and then they shut off the motion detectors
in their alarm so that the cats wouldn't trip them.
But she got caught anyway, she got.
Speaker 5 (06:52):
The cat door was impressive. Dog door nuts impressive. I
can get to a dog just one shoulder than the other.
Speaker 4 (06:56):
Maybe she had like fatty boomblattie cats like Biggins. She
had Biggins that needed a dog door because I can't imagine,
like my nephew can crawl through it. LD does, but
I don't think he can do it for much longer.
Speaker 5 (07:11):
No, Well, it just get your head through, because then
he can get your head through. You can get one
shoulder and right.
Speaker 4 (07:15):
So I'm going to say it's a dog door.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
And also your hips too.
Speaker 4 (07:18):
So yeah, and maybe they just missed their dog and
they kept the dog door, and then they got these cats.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
They don't want to.
Speaker 4 (07:26):
Main coons. So anyway, she gets arrested. She faced twenty
six charges for stealing more than three hundred items, and
the detective on the case, Ron Tamassi, of the Palm
Beach County Sheriff's Department. He said there was not just
a financial toll on the victims, but an emotional toll.
He said, quote, lots of people don't understand the trauma
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until it happens to them. Your home is your little
corner of the world where you and your family are safe.
When someone comes in and violates it. You go through shock, horror,
grief and anger. It's almost like a death.
Speaker 5 (07:59):
Dude, I can't remember he stuck one of the guys
you're telling me about when he broke in.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
He decided not to violate people.
Speaker 4 (08:05):
The tenz Opi, Pino Andino.
Speaker 5 (08:07):
He knew not to disturb them and they wouldn't mind
the loss of their stuff as much as the violation
rifling through their stuff.
Speaker 4 (08:12):
That someone's been in your place.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
It really is a violation, it is.
Speaker 4 (08:16):
So you know, Detective Ron Tamassi, he knew all about
the trauma of home burglaries. You knew it very well.
He knew this trauma very well. I'm testing out my
dateline voice.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
Good, you like it?
Speaker 4 (08:30):
See eighteen years prior eighteen years, You've got it. I
know right. He worked on a case just like this,
only bigger, much bigger. Now I can't stuck to you.
He was the man who took down the bandit of
Boca del Mar. Okay, that was in eighty six. So
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he was the man who took down the bandit of Wait.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
Go man, thank you Thomas who.
Speaker 4 (09:01):
Was the bandit of Boca del Mar.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
I'm guessing the oxy lady.
Speaker 4 (09:04):
Don't worry. I'll tell you no, not the Oxy lady.
This is back in eighty six.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
Oh preoxy.
Speaker 4 (09:09):
Yeah, it's like, you know, it's.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
Like forty years.
Speaker 4 (09:10):
We're getting too. So let's start with Judy Amar. Let's
starts Jude Judy Amar. She was born Judy Love in
nineteen forty seven. I have in Arkansas. She's from Villonia, Arkansas,
to the exact population two fifty. Yeah, I didn't know
they had them in Arkansas. But she grew up on
a cotton farm. Oh yeah, no, big yeah, who knows.
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Mudhole was what they called it.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
Yeah, on a cotton farm called mudhole. You don't have.
Speaker 4 (09:39):
Here's what she had to say about it.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
Poverty is looking down on you.
Speaker 4 (09:43):
Quote. You get to think a lot when you're picking cotton,
and I knew I wanted something more. I dreamed of
something finer, diamonds like Elizabeth Taylor Warre on TV. I
went looking at thirteen. At thirteen, she earned two cents
a pou picking cotton. Two cents a pound.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
Pounds a lot of cotton. That's a light thing.
Speaker 4 (10:04):
She made twenty nine dollars a month, and that's like
two hundred ninety five dollars today a month at thirteen.
When she was sixteen, she had a baby boy, and
her parents adopted the little guy. Something Judy said was
quote the only smart thing I've ever done in my life.
Who she realized, I can't give this guy.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
Yeah, oh, that's a very decent choice.
Speaker 4 (10:24):
So when she's seventeen, the next year she left home.
She wanted more, As she said, she was a lovely
looking young lady, but at home she was told she
was ugly, that she wasn't enough. She said, quote, nobody
wanted me. I wasn't good looking, So off she went.
She moved to Washington, d C. And that had to
be a huge culture shock, going from like two hundred
and fifty people in a.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
Town in Arkansas to the nation's capital, the.
Speaker 4 (10:47):
Nation's capital, the capital of the US of A.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
It's a wild town in Washington, DC. It is a
very bustling place.
Speaker 4 (10:54):
Oh yeah, and super diverse.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
There was like a lot going on. You feel the
energy at that.
Speaker 4 (10:58):
Place, exactly. She got a job working as a key
punch operator at the Securities and Exchange Commission, and then
she started working as a massuse. Oh what happens. She
got She married twice and neither of those unions worked out.
Things weren't going so hot for her, so in nineteen
seventy five she moved to Miami and there she got
mixed up with some not so great people. She worked
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as an escort, a lady of the night.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
So she's got official now.
Speaker 4 (11:24):
And her clients were rich guys. She's high end. In
nineteen eighty one, she met Heesus Avela and he was
a bad dude. Heyus They locked eyes at a restaurant.
There was instant chemistry. Judy later said, quote, that was
the worst thing that happened to me.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
Oh, I like aga.
Speaker 4 (11:45):
Avea. He was a Cuban immigrant part of the Mariial
boat lift.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4 (11:51):
So that's that mass immigration of Cubans to Florida. Nineteen eighty,
one hundred and twenty five thousand Cubans twenty five thousand
Haitians arrived in the US by boat. Castro said they
were free to go, your boy, Castro Cuban Americans. They
chartered boats to Mariyel Harbord started shuttling refugees to the
Florida Keys in Miami. One of those refugees, Jesus Avula, Okay,
(12:13):
Judy didn't know that. You kne about that, but she
didn't know that he was wanted for murder.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (12:19):
That's the thing about the boat lift is that Fidel
basically emptied a lot of the prisons and did that
kind of the Soviet style, like, hair, let's send these
people to America.
Speaker 4 (12:26):
And that's you. Yeah, he said, you're so you want
to leave so desperately, off you go.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (12:33):
There were a lot of legitimate people who wanted to leave,
and then they did and they were, you know, legitimate
Americans blah blah. There were also a lot of criminal
mixed in amongst them, because it was like, why not
do this?
Speaker 3 (12:43):
This will be not good for America exactly.
Speaker 4 (12:46):
So Jesus is wanted for murder. I don't know if
that was in Cuba or Miami or both, but it
doesn't matter.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
Why not both?
Speaker 4 (12:52):
Why not both? All Judy knew was that this Cuban
hunk was given her the eye. Yeah, in the moment,
she liked that. She's like, oh, I like have warm
for your form. So there's Judy living in Miami getting
by as a sex worker. She was cruising around in
this really sweet Lincoln Continental. Courtesy of her ex husband,
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so Avela. He was into her at the restaurant, but
what really got him going was the Lincoln.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
What hub he liked the car?
Speaker 4 (13:20):
Yeah, uh no, not like the two short songs, but
he So they got together and he started asking her
for rides. He's like, can can you drive me too?
Speaker 3 (13:33):
In the back?
Speaker 4 (13:33):
I don't know? Well, so like he's asking for a lift,
Give me a lift here, give me a lift there.
And then he's like, you know, I kind of want
to swing by these posh neighborhoods and look for potential
burglary targets. Could you give me a ride?
Speaker 3 (13:45):
Help?
Speaker 4 (13:46):
Can I get a ride? He's like, it's like a kid.
Can you drop me off like two blocks away so
my friends won't see me?
Speaker 2 (13:51):
Uh?
Speaker 4 (13:51):
So Judy was the eyes and ears and gas money
of the operation wow right, So one time Judy saw
that she could also be the brains in the bron
So Bundy of Avalas he went into a home to
rob it. Place was super nice. He comes back to
the car and all he has is a twenty five
dollars radio. Yeah, He's like, I stole it from a
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lady friend. Catching that's all you got? She Judy's pissed.
This was small time behavior. She was not small time,
so she didn't have to overcome all the garbage in
her life to watch a two bit thief steal a
cheap radio.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
Yeah. Completely.
Speaker 4 (14:27):
She's like, I'm going in, boys, come with me. So
they go back in the house and Judy gives them
like this impromptu tour. She starts pointing out all the
stuff that they should have taken.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
Deville, but it's just jewelry, jewelry.
Speaker 4 (14:39):
Get that crystal, give me those clothes, give that fur.
So this is what she had to say about it.
Quote after that, I just said the hell with it,
and I went out by myself. It was thrilling, like
shopping at Christmas and not paying the bills. I guess
people won't want to hear that, but it's true. In
five years, Judy burglarized more than five hundred home.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
Ten out of ten could highly recommend.
Speaker 4 (15:04):
So she picked her targets by looking through the parade
of homes and that was the Palm Beach Post real
estate section for high end property. So, like most of
us commoners, we look at luxury home listings as like
a daydream fantasy, she looks at it. She's like basically
ordering off a menu.
Speaker 3 (15:19):
Yeah, totally like that.
Speaker 4 (15:20):
And at first she was just in Dade County. But
remember what I said about the money moving up the
coast to the bocus. Yeah, so you know that's because
of the drug deal shootouts in Miami in the eighties.
Judy moved up the coast too. She headed to Palm
Beach County. That's where the respectable rich money was because,
like the money in Miami was more and more a
product of cocaine trafficking, and breaking into a coke kingpin's
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house gave you an increased risk of getting.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
Shot a lot increase.
Speaker 4 (15:47):
It's better to target law abiding citizens.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
So I mean, they'll shoot you, but they don't have
as many bullets or as.
Speaker 4 (15:52):
Many men as many guns. Yes, So she developed this method.
She'd rent a luxury car she'd always pay cash for.
She get all dressed up like a busy on the go,
Boca Raton lady who lunches.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
Okay, I'm seeing it.
Speaker 4 (16:04):
She wore dress, slax and high heels, smile, and she
always wore a wig. She had long blonde one, she
had a short one. She had one with frosted tips.
And she said She even had an afro wig, which like, hello,
I want to see that, Like.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
Are we talking afro like eighties white girl perm w.
Speaker 4 (16:18):
I don't know if it's like eighties white girl permwig
or like Angela Davis afro, but either way, I'm in.
So then she'd figure out which house she wanted to hit,
and then she'd just go park in the driveway, just
pull right up in because like a lot, and since
a lot of the homes were in new developments, she
could look at promotional materials that had all the available
floor plans. Oh wow. Developers pretty much gave her a
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treasure map and they're like, here, this is where the
closets are.
Speaker 3 (16:43):
This is a four bedroom house. You gonna have one
hereupon two upstairs.
Speaker 4 (16:47):
So she could look at the front and realize, okay,
this is what the layout is. So she'd go to
the door and she'd knock, and if someone was home
and came to the door, she would just apologize profusely
and say, oh my god, I'm at the wrong house.
I'm so sorry. So she's living out one of our
show mottos. Act like, you know, totally confident. If no
one came to the door, and that rich sound of
the doorbell echoed unanswered through this enormous abode. She'd reach
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right into her Gucci bag. Always carried a Gucci bag,
and that's where she kept her twelve inch flathead screwdriver.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (17:16):
And she had figured out this way to jam the
screwdriver in between the door and the jam and jimmy
the lock. And one of her selection criteria for the
homes was to pick ones with recessed doorways.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (17:27):
So, yeah, she wanted to make sure you couldn't be
seen from the street. Another thing she kept in that
Gucci bag was a can of mace, because you never
know when someone's eighties magnum pi Doberman would come bounding
out at you. So anyway, once she's in, she'd go
to work.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
She's still pain in the neighbor.
Speaker 4 (17:43):
Yeah. So she stole jewelry, she stole art, artwork, fine art, cash, clothes, housewares,
you name it. And then she also stole pillowcases because
that's how she transported the booty.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
I was just about to ask, how'd she get this out?
Speaker 4 (18:00):
She's just walking out to the cases with pillows.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
I'm just carrying this laundry out every day. Halloween for her.
Speaker 4 (18:05):
Everything of value want with her, which she likes, she kept.
This is what Detective Bill Westman had to say about
her quote. She loved to steal beautiful clothes and jewelry.
She'd sell some of it, but she'd keep a lot
of it too.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
So she said in the cotton fields, I want the diamonds.
Speaker 4 (18:21):
I want the diamonds. So let's take a break and
think about all those Florida mansions denuded of their fine goods.
When we come back, we'll take a closer look at
Judy's operation.
Speaker 6 (18:31):
Yeah, hello, Zarin Elizabeth d.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
Hello.
Speaker 4 (18:55):
So here we got Judy Amar. She is burglarizing houses
during the day, part being it up at night. She'd
only hit houses on weekdays in the middle of the
day and then in her off time. She had a
bit of a coke habit. Oh okay, you know it's eighties.
In one burglary alone, she took a quarter of a
million dollars worth of stuff. That's a lot.
Speaker 3 (19:16):
Yeah, And do we know if that's like been like
the numbers being bumped by jewelry?
Speaker 2 (19:20):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (19:20):
Oh yeah, it's jewelry. It's yeah, okay, that's pretty it's jewelry.
Speaker 3 (19:23):
Is the big thing she has a good if it
was art.
Speaker 4 (19:25):
Yeah, well quarter of a mill and she was doing
multiple jobs a week, So she's racking it. The stolen
stuff she didn't sell or keep for herself she sent
to friends of hers in Honduras. Now I couldn't find
out more about these friends in Honduras, Like were they
peace Corps people? Were they supporting the contras that were
operating out of Honduran bases?
Speaker 3 (19:46):
Were they British expats you'd stay past the whole handover?
Speaker 4 (19:49):
Were they helping the US overthrow the government of the
Kaby Were they Sandinis?
Speaker 3 (19:53):
Were the Norse friends?
Speaker 4 (19:55):
So much of the war in Nicaragua took place in Honduras?
Speaker 3 (19:58):
Yeah, oh yeah, I know, you're just brought on.
Speaker 4 (20:00):
There's Judy sending off the furs and handbags that didn't
suit her or fit her down to whatever. Interesting.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
Maybe she's done it for the people, who knows.
Speaker 4 (20:07):
Who knows? So she didn't just find clothes and ship
into South America. She found secrets, Okay, secrets, she said.
The best coke she ever scored is what she found
in a doctor's house that she robbed.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
Oh medically pure. You hear this? Sad that so they
get the good stuff.
Speaker 4 (20:22):
They get the good stuff.
Speaker 3 (20:23):
It hasn't been stepped on. It's medically pure.
Speaker 4 (20:25):
Okay. Once she found a photo of a homeowner posing
naked over her dog, I know, Oh, but I just
like I'm thinking like very eighties like she had, like like.
Speaker 5 (20:38):
With the dog is more like the dog laying on
the carpet. Yeah, they're just using the dog as a prop.
Speaker 4 (20:44):
The dog's laying there like say the Sphinx, and then
the ladies like standing astride the dog with like eighties
patent leather high heels.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
The dog is a prop. The dog is not an
involved the dog.
Speaker 4 (20:55):
Yeah, the dog is a prop. It might as well
be like a statue.
Speaker 3 (20:58):
Okay, then that's not as bad as what I was.
Speaker 4 (21:00):
And at least that's what I'm telling me.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
I'm going with that. You can't change my mind.
Speaker 4 (21:04):
But she found other evidence of bad deeds and shameful
things we won't go into. Did she just leave it
where she found it? A La Vincenzo peppino esus flying
it right? She would place the incriminating items in like
an array on the bed in the master bedroom to
let them know that.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
She knew red lipstick. Best part now you know.
Speaker 4 (21:25):
That I know, but like Peppino, she said, she was
once interrupted while working when the homeowner came home. The
man walked into the house and saw a sassy, no
nonsense business woman rifling through his stuff. He was stunned.
Speaker 3 (21:40):
He froze, Mom, what are you doing here?
Speaker 4 (21:42):
She just ran off. She just sprints right by him.
But this man's eyewitness encounter is what clued the cops
in on the fact that the bandit of Boca del
Mar was a woman, because up until then the cops
all assumed it was a man.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
Of course, just instantly very eighty sexist.
Speaker 4 (21:58):
I have to say that I watched an episode of Masterminds,
which is a now defunct History Channel show about criminals,
and they had an episode about Old Judy. The wildest
thing is sort of how chauvinistic everyone interviewed is. And
this is like from two thousand and three, this was eighties.
But everyone acts like it's so shocking that a woman
did this. This is what detective THOMASI said, quote this
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completely blew me off my feet, you know, dealing with
a prolific burglar who's a woman, and then asking about
how she would blend in. He said, no one would
give her a second thought because professional business women is
a very common occurrence here in Boca del Mar and
Boca Ratone. It's common to see a woman executive or
a woman real estate agent dress this way.
Speaker 5 (22:39):
So he's both surprised that a woman could be competent
as a thief, and then also it's like surprise that
anyone would notice a woman.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
It takes stock of her life. I mean, you see
women doing stuff all the time.
Speaker 4 (22:48):
Very common occurrence is such a weird way to put it.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
I mean I look around, I look up, that's a woman,
and I look over into another one.
Speaker 4 (22:55):
I'm like, there's women all over the port, lady executive
over there, pants suit, oh a normally fellas.
Speaker 3 (23:01):
He's not a Barbie doll. That's a real live woman.
Speaker 4 (23:03):
That happens a lot around these.
Speaker 3 (23:04):
Especially South Florida. If you've not been here.
Speaker 4 (23:06):
We have women, we do and they have jobs, have
lady women.
Speaker 5 (23:09):
They're out in the daytime doing stuff sometimes. So anyway,
this is amazing. Two thousand and three, two thousand and.
Speaker 4 (23:15):
Three, So the dude who interrupted her theft wouldn't be
the last one to do that. A woman named Leslie
Near in Bocca del Mar heard something one day while
at home, which I just thought, it's Boca.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
Raton, right, that's how they pronounce it.
Speaker 4 (23:31):
I just know that, like people in Boca are going
to start messaging me, like, right.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
Guess what it's not.
Speaker 5 (23:40):
Like if you go to Atlanta, it's Ponce. It's not
Ponce de Leon, it's de Leon. Right in South they
often take the Spanish out of the Spanish.
Speaker 4 (23:50):
Or Boca. For those in the now, del Mar, we'll
just call Boca, who cover it all. So Leslie near
she lives in Boca del Mar.
Speaker 3 (23:58):
I call it mouse mouth mousemouth.
Speaker 4 (24:00):
She sorry she heard something well one day when she
was at home, I suppose it wasn't a doorbell, since
the part that she heard was Judy's strong arming her
way into the house with her foot long screwdriver. So
she hear's that. Leslie looks out of her peep hole
to see what's making all the noise, and she sees
a lady up against her door trying to jimmy it open.
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So Leslie flings open the front door and yells, what
are you doing? That's brave, And Judy looks up at
her and goes, I'm just leaving, and then she legs
it to her car just leaving. Don't worry about me.
Speaker 3 (24:32):
I wasn't here, I was never here.
Speaker 4 (24:33):
Don't wry about it. Then, Nancy Alexander of Boca came
home one day to find a really sweet Lincoln Continental
parked in her driveway and nance she's like a social
butterfly and figured it was just like a pal who
stopped by to say hello.
Speaker 3 (24:45):
Maybe is in town?
Speaker 4 (24:47):
Perhaps so like Seeing as her guests just love to
lounge on the lunai and share her neighborhood gossip, she
decided to just head directly to the backyard by the
pool because she figured that's where they are hanging out.
Speaker 3 (24:58):
She make drinks and walk out.
Speaker 4 (25:00):
She didn't see her friends from tennis when she looked
out there. Instead, it was Judy, and she had a
pillowcase stuffed with Nancy's belongings, including her favorite leather boots.
Speaker 3 (25:11):
Zaren Santa Claus.
Speaker 4 (25:13):
It totally is so she's got her like heart Barracuda
leather boots that she's running out with. Nancy is livid
and instinct just takes over. She pounced and attacked Judy.
Speaker 5 (25:26):
She cleared that grass so fast wrapped her up like
a football player.
Speaker 4 (25:31):
This is what Nancy Alexandra had to say. I don't
know why I jumped on her. Maybe it was because
she was a woman and I thought I could stop her.
I quickly realized I was in trouble because check it.
Speaker 3 (25:41):
Out, I can take her. She's a woman.
Speaker 4 (25:43):
Judy had a blower in her Gucci bag. So Judy
draws a gun on nance. Nancy puts her hands up
and slowly starts walking backwards, like, oh oh, take the boots.
Speaker 3 (25:54):
Oh long, I can't handle a woman with a gun.
Speaker 4 (25:56):
Judy just sprints off. Nancy scurries over to peek at
her driveway and she gets the license plate number. So,
thanks to Nancy Alexander's quick thinking, Judy was caught. She
gets charged with arm burglary, pleads guilty. She bonded out,
but then she skipped bail and she was on the
run for nearly three years. Detective TOMASI dog on a bone.
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I have to look through all these lady executives and
figure out which one of them is the bandit of
Boca del Mark.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
There's tons of them here, so many.
Speaker 4 (26:27):
Bandits of Bocodela mar running around. This is the prosecutor,
Lynne Baldwin later said, quote, Heaven help whoever he goes
after Ron never gave up. It's like because in his
off hours he's hanging out in his den trying to
get leads, and he reached out to her hometown in Arkansas.
Speaker 3 (26:43):
Why is it so personal for him?
Speaker 6 (26:44):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (26:45):
The trauma is Aaron the trauma people felt. So Judy
found out that Tamasi had contacted her son, and she
was pissed.
Speaker 3 (26:53):
She was so mad.
Speaker 4 (26:54):
She called Tamasi well out on the run and told
him to leave her family out of it.
Speaker 3 (26:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (26:59):
I feel STIs Tamasi was in deep though, so deep
that the stress from this case contributed to a heart
attack that he had.
Speaker 3 (27:06):
Oh damn.
Speaker 4 (27:07):
So he's like Claid, Oh God, Judy, I.
Speaker 3 (27:09):
Thought you'd can go the other way, like he started
like dating her sister.
Speaker 4 (27:13):
He got indeed, Yeah, I wish no so like he
has a heart attack. It's the summer of nineteen eighty six.
Judy almost got caught. She wasn't off in Honduras or
hiding out in the Grand Canyon or something. She was
on the twenty two thousand block of Iron Wedge Drive
in Boca Ratan, So she's still there. A sheriff's deputy
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happened to be driving by when he saw something suspicious
and there was a woman who looked like Judy. He
was coming out of a house. Olgal knew she'd been made,
so she raced off to her rented Mercedes. Backup was
still on the way, So Judy she dug around in
the back seat and she grabbed a black wig and
she swapped it for the one she was wearing, and
then drove right through the perimeter established by the cops
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to catch her.
Speaker 3 (27:56):
Wait a minute, because.
Speaker 4 (27:57):
She had a different wig on. She waves at the
deputy manning the road block, and then just breezed on by.
Speaker 5 (28:01):
I can see why tomasis upset about women. If they're
just all these cops are fooled by. Well, that's what
it couldn't be.
Speaker 4 (28:07):
And it's black hair, Lady executive, black hair. I'm looking
for the blonde.
Speaker 3 (28:11):
I mean the lady executive that we have right here
the picture of she's a blonde. So you see a
blonde lady.
Speaker 4 (28:16):
She had a blonde mini afro, and that's not hers.
Speaker 3 (28:18):
She looks like she may sell your real estate.
Speaker 4 (28:20):
You tell us so this is what Judy said. I
told them not to charge me with that one or
they'd look stupid.
Speaker 3 (28:27):
Don't worry about.
Speaker 4 (28:28):
It, well, Detective Ron Tommasi, he eventually caught her.
Speaker 3 (28:31):
Okay, but dog on a bone, you say.
Speaker 4 (28:33):
When he finally caught her, he said, quote, I've never
chased anyone that was so good, and a woman at
that again, kidding me again, a lady burglar. I knew
I can, like he's doing lady criming.
Speaker 5 (28:49):
You know how you always wonder like, oh, who do
they make these products just for men? For I think
we have found it, Detective to I just need a soap,
but one for man.
Speaker 3 (29:00):
I can't have a soap for the lady.
Speaker 4 (29:01):
Want lady soap anywhere near a man's right? So how
did he get? A drug dealer tipped him off to
where he could.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
Find Judy drug He knows drug dealers.
Speaker 4 (29:10):
Yeah, well yeah, no lady drug dealer.
Speaker 3 (29:13):
I know one thing about this drug dealer. Drug dealer.
It ain't no female drug dealer.
Speaker 4 (29:17):
Zarin, close your eye, Oh no, you snucking up.
Speaker 3 (29:21):
I'll be glad to I.
Speaker 4 (29:23):
Want you to picture. It's June twenty fifth, nineteen eighty seven.
You're a housekeeper at the Ocean Gate Motel in Surfside, Florida.
It's a shabby art deco remnant of a grander time.
By the time I'm telling you this story, it's no
longer there. It almost looks like an ocean liner. Three
stories with an open air breezeway down the middle. The
rooms all open out to the center grassy strip. Big
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sloping stairways take guests down to the beach behind the hotel.
You can only imagine what it looked like back in
the fifties. So glamorous, but it's nineteen eighty seven and
it seemed better days. You've just finished cleaning Room one
oh eight. You're taking a break to eat a granola
bar in the parking lot. The lady in room one
oh eight has been there for a couple months now.
She always has cool stuff. She brings bags and bags
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of stuff into her room every few days. She told
you and one of the other cleaners that she goes
to estate sales and picks up what she thinks is interesting,
then she turns around and sells it at second Ham
shops and such. You did notice a little bag of
cocaine in the drawer of her nightstand, but you don't judge.
It's Miami, not surprising. She seems nice enough, always cheerful
and polite, not like the guy in Room two fourteen.
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His wife kicked him out of their house a few
weeks ago. All he does is sit in the room moping,
and every time you go to clean there's a new
tower of pizza boxes. It's ten am. You watch the
cars and trucks speedby on Collins Avenue. You can hear
the lapping of the waves behind the building, the chatter
of the beach tourists out for the day, starting to
get a little crowded, but that's the season. You have
ten more rooms to go and then you're done for
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the day. As you look at the corner of the
parking lot, you see a van. It's marked plumbing. You
hadn't heard that there are any plumbing issues. You wonder
if it's someone sleeping in their van to cut costs
on a vacation, or maybe it's a man in the
same situation as the poor guy in Room till fourteen.
Although you're pretty sure his wife did the right thing
kicking him out. You peer at the man in the
driver's seat. He has a pretty obvious fake mustache on
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and maybe a hearing aid. Just then, you hear the
roar of a Mercedes. It's Room one o eight. She
pulls into the parking lot and waves to you. You
wave back while biting into your crumbly granolivar. She gets
a spot and lifts a bunch of bags from her trunk.
She disappears behind the front doors of the motel, struggling
with her bags. You hear footsteps on the pavement behind you.
Dozens of Sheriff's deputies come jogging past you, right to
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the motel. You watch as they all shuffle in. You
look up and you notice snipers stationed on the roof
of the building next door. You can see down the
breezeway that the cops are headed to Room one o eight.
The doors open and you watch as they shout and
enter the room, guns drawn. Moments later, you see the
lady from Room one o eight. She's sprinting as fast
as she can from the back alley of the motel,
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headed to her car in the park lot. You're secretly
rooting for her whatever she did. Just then, the driver
the plumbing van springs out and tackles that nice lady
in room from Room one O eight smack on the
pavement at the age of forty, at ten am in
a motel parking lot, Judy was finally caught.
Speaker 3 (32:16):
Oh damn, I gotta see it.
Speaker 4 (32:18):
You got to see it. The cops keep you there
for questioning, ask you about the forty five thousand dollars
worth of clothes, jewelry, figurines, cocaine, and six hundred and
ninety dollars in cash in the room. You don't know anything,
you tell them. Soon the news cameras and reporters show up.
You give one statement, but you ask to remain anonymous. Quote.
Everyone here liked her. She had a kind of jolly
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personality where you couldn't help but like her. She was
so nice you would want her for a neighbor. And
with that you headed home. Let's take a break. When
we come back, we'll see what this next chapter held
for Judy.
Speaker 7 (32:51):
Oh, yes, seven Clyde.
Speaker 4 (33:16):
When we left off, Yeah, Judy Amar had been captured
at the Ocean Gate motel.
Speaker 3 (33:20):
I was there. I saw it all. You were totally
asked your questions. I can tell you everything.
Speaker 8 (33:23):
Yes, yes, not only did she have all the burglary charges,
but she still had to be sentenced in Dade County
for possession of a gram of cocaine in nineteen eighty four.
Speaker 3 (33:34):
Did the cops lay them out in her place for her,
just like on like.
Speaker 5 (33:36):
An array, Like here you go, here's all your charges.
Speaker 4 (33:40):
Well, she didn't just captivate the motel staff, you and
all your coworkers. Tracy Cohane, a reporter for the Washington Post,
wrote that Judy quote enchanted the cops, fascinated the prosecutor,
and charmed the judge. Prosecutor Lynn Baldman, I'd talked about
her earlier. This is how she described Judy. Very beautiful,
charming and intelligent for a lady for well, and like
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that was the compliment that she so badly wanted in Arkansas,
but she never got it. So now she's getting from
the day and a lady a lady. Well here's the
detective thumosity. Well, he said, great, great personality, razor sharp mind.
So he comes very close to the to the descriptor.
That irritates me so much is when men describe women
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as whip smart, because they never describe other men as
whip smart.
Speaker 3 (34:30):
No, you will never made a whip smart man.
Speaker 4 (34:32):
No, it's irritating, like it's like lady smart. So Judy,
she had no regrets and she had no apologies either.
She went so far as to accuse her victims of
exaggerating their insurance claims, and she said, She's like, if
they exaggerated, I am happy to testify against them. And
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then here's the quote that I knew you would love
when I was transcribing this quote. I stole illegally. They
stole legally. It's the difference. Yeah, she's another one of
our folk hero Robin hood thieves.
Speaker 5 (35:07):
Yes, yeah, some still with a gun, some still with
a Pen's to do a lot more with a pen.
Speaker 3 (35:11):
It's true.
Speaker 4 (35:12):
The Sheriff's Department, ever captivated by her, asked her to
help film a video for them. It was their star
search audition tape Get Out. No, I'm just kidding, trying
to get Ed McMahon on board. And look what we
got talent down here, Judy. They have like a boy
dance routine. No, they wanted her to help them put
together a video explaining how criminals think and how they
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do the actual work of the robbery. And that meant
that she would explain how she picked houses and how
she jimmied open doors.
Speaker 3 (35:42):
She was super into this a video for cops or
for people who live in miamis.
Speaker 4 (35:47):
For cops wondering, it's like a peek into the mind.
Speaker 3 (35:50):
Yeah, yeah, they wanted training videos well, and.
Speaker 4 (35:52):
The video wound up being used not just locally but national.
Speaker 3 (35:56):
Sure, it's like profile her type stuff where they're like,
here's how they think.
Speaker 4 (35:59):
Well, this is what detect of lou Sessa said quote.
She'll be able to give us some information on what
to look for. It's always good to look at it
from both sides of the fence. It will school our
officers and patrol techniques and school us in teaching the
general public on crime prevention. And they get to hang
out with Judy, the lady burglar.
Speaker 3 (36:16):
Yeah she's a woman at that could.
Speaker 4 (36:18):
You believe it? So, her fingerprints were found at three
Burgley crime scenes, and after her arrest, she not only
agreed to help with the training video, but also agreed
to help the police solve other cases. So the Delray
Beach police drove her around town and she'd point out
the houses that she robbed, right, and then she'd tell
them exactly, you know, how she did it, all the details.
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So she helped the cops clear twenty one cases, all
with the promise that she wouldn't be charged for those
twenty one cases, just so they could be like, okay,
we figured it out, get it off the books.
Speaker 5 (36:48):
So she's like, look, i'll help you close your books
and you'll have a great closure rape and it'll be
like you don't get a charge.
Speaker 4 (36:53):
Out of this, yeah, because they've already charged.
Speaker 3 (36:55):
Yeah, okay, Well that's again.
Speaker 4 (36:57):
This is how Sergeant Ross lookta, this is how he
explained it. That was part of the deal in bringing
her here. We didn't have anything to link her to
those cases, but we did have her fingerprints in the
three burglaries. So yeah, she's just closing them. And when
asked about life as a fugitive, Judy said, it wasn't
that hard. Most of the cops weren't that smart. She
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always gets a bless I love that. So Tamasi, though
he had a better opinion.
Speaker 3 (37:22):
Of Jude, she should have said something like they're not
too smart, I mean for men. Oh my god.
Speaker 4 (37:25):
Yes, she missed her opportunity. So this is what Tamasi said. Quote.
She was very candid. The woman holds no animosity toward me.
She said she had a job to do, and I
had a job to do. She said, we got her
fair and square.
Speaker 3 (37:38):
You still got the woman bit in there a little bit.
He cannot let that go.
Speaker 4 (37:41):
Yeah. On the day of her sentencing, the courtroom was
a buzz Okay, it was more than that was like festive.
This was the end of an era for a local legend.
Speaker 3 (37:50):
Oh I bet. Yeah. That's like they're like like fun
robin Hood.
Speaker 4 (37:53):
Really Yeah. She pled guilty to thirty charges, right, and
she got ten years in prison for her burglaries and
three years for having a gun during that one burglary
where she pulled it out with lady. She confessed to
over five hundred burglaries whoa, and she offered to return
two hundred and fifty thousand dollars worth of stolen items
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all right. In July of eighty seven, about one hundred
people showed up at the Palm Beach County Sheriff's office.
They were there to reclaim property that they believe Judy stole.
So Detective Sessa said, quote, she doesn't want any of
these cases to resurface after she is sentenced. She could
be recharged. She wants to do her time and get
out and hopefully straighten up her life. She's never done
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any hard time before, so this hopefully will straighten her out.
That's so smart. Just get it all, wipe the slate.
Speaker 3 (38:42):
Yeah, I would have.
Speaker 4 (38:43):
Some sense of immunity going on, and well you know
that everyone loves you like they're treating me really well,
it's not lego. So during the sentencing, Judy like smiles
too much.
Speaker 3 (38:51):
Didn't have somebody above her, or she could have flipped on.
She could have walked with no charges.
Speaker 4 (38:55):
She had no one above her.
Speaker 5 (38:56):
I know, that's the only thing is this lady. She
was on her own, which was a good move at
the time she was. But if she had that, I
bet she could have walked away totally.
Speaker 4 (39:02):
C probably, but then that person would come after her.
Speaker 3 (39:05):
Yeah, you know she could manage it well.
Speaker 4 (39:07):
So Judy during the sentencing, she's just cutting up with
the circuit Judge Tom Johnson. I mean they're just going
back and forth. And he said, come on, Judy, the
photographers want you to pose, because the cameras were all
clicking away, and then he asked Judy if she had
finished up the training video for the Sheriff's office, and
Judy said quote, yes, but I want to do it over.
My eye was swollen and I didn't take a good picture.
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And so then Johnson says, did they let you dress up?
And Judy's like, yeah they did.
Speaker 3 (39:34):
He's like, oh, Judy, you could never take a bad picture.
Speaker 4 (39:37):
So that Johnson congratulates Tomasi for his tenacity, and then
he asked them, quote, you gotta let Judy do the
film again with more makeup. It's ridiculous though, And then
as Judy's led away to begin her sentence, she tells
reporters that I feel fantastic. Yes, she feels great.
Speaker 3 (39:53):
The Miami jumping out of all this courtroom scenes.
Speaker 4 (39:56):
So Timasi does the math. He calculated up what Judy
stole and he estimated it at three to six million dollars.
Speaker 5 (40:04):
I have to do, yeah, five hundred robberies in that area,
mostly hitting nice places. And she was upset about the
guy who told the cheap radio. So we know she's
not coming out with like totally anything little.
Speaker 4 (40:14):
Yeah, she's just not small time. Tamasi said, quote, I
waited a long time for this. A case like this
might come along once in an officer's career.
Speaker 3 (40:22):
And a woman at that and a woman at that.
Speaker 4 (40:24):
But then look what I talked about at the top
of the episode. He had another lady burglar.
Speaker 3 (40:28):
Yeah, totally.
Speaker 4 (40:30):
Meanwhile, Judy's mom back in Arkansas said quote, she changed
when she left here. She sure did. I guess citified
is what you'd call itified. Judy is one of a kind.
I guess that's something to be thankful for. Wow, cityfied,
I see where she gets the disc is. Judy got
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out of jail in nineteen ninety. She only did three
years of the thirteen year sentence.
Speaker 3 (40:55):
It was a non violent crime.
Speaker 4 (40:56):
You where is she now?
Speaker 3 (40:58):
Well, where is she now?
Speaker 4 (40:59):
There's a bit now you tell me?
Speaker 3 (41:00):
Thank you for not telling me yet.
Speaker 4 (41:03):
As of last reporting, she's a home security consultant. So
she's she's a white.
Speaker 3 (41:08):
Hat, white hat hacker burger okay.
Speaker 4 (41:11):
I tried to find more follow up information on her
and I could. I tracked down her mother's obituary, okay,
which put Judy still alive in twenty fifteen, but going
by a different last name. So wherever she is, I
wish her godspeed, godspeed bandit of Boca del Mar. What's
your ridiculous takeaway?
Speaker 3 (41:31):
Florida? Pretty much Florida.
Speaker 5 (41:34):
I mean, I know all honesty. Like I think I've
said this before. I have family in Florida. I used
to go there a lot when I was raised in Georgia.
It's somewhere I feel very comfortable. And at no point
do I look down on Florida. So I'm not one
of these people who's making fun of or wagging my
finger at Florida. I'm standing shoulder to shoulder with your
Florida and I'm saying it straight to your face. At
the same time, this play is wild. So the Florida
(41:54):
of it all like where you have like these old
people meeting up with all these like you know, recent
immigrants happy to like make it to America and become
really proud Americans. And then you have all these criminals
that are going this gives me a great place to
hide out. It's just amazing energy, just a chaos and
like they talk about, oh it's a melting pot, that's
where the melting pot bubbles.
Speaker 4 (42:14):
Yeah, And what I like about Florida is that lady
executives are not an anomaly. You actually see them walking
around in the wild all the time.
Speaker 3 (42:22):
Just there's so many you lose count.
Speaker 5 (42:24):
You cannot count them, Elizabeth, it's just lady executive four
or five, real litter seventeen.
Speaker 3 (42:29):
I mean, I don't have enough fingers for this.
Speaker 4 (42:32):
And if you can believe it, I mean they're they're
driving cars.
Speaker 3 (42:34):
Yes, I saw one using money.
Speaker 4 (42:36):
It's crazy money.
Speaker 3 (42:37):
Elizabeth, a lady professional and her husband wasn't even there.
Speaker 4 (42:42):
I know, but you know what, that's it's one of
those special things about us.
Speaker 3 (42:45):
That's I mean, Miami is a really progressive place with
the ladies, with.
Speaker 4 (42:49):
The lady workers. That's us.
Speaker 3 (42:52):
That's why I got very Ridiculously.
Speaker 4 (42:54):
It's wonderful. You can find us online at Ridiculous Crime
dot com. Yeah, it's amazing, Like it's such a well
designed website. It's it's really I mean, we have technology
that we're using in that that other people don't have.
Speaker 5 (43:07):
We had chat GBT five look at at GBT. Yeah,
it's it's it's the one that's on drugs. It's chat
GBT and it's looks. It's like, oh man, I'm into
this stuff. This is this is I love this website.
Speaker 4 (43:20):
Well, the government was like, how did you design this?
And we were like, you know what, kick, we're not telling.
Speaker 5 (43:24):
You so either Leonardo DiCaprio or Leonardo da Vinci did it,
but somebody cool because this is amazing art.
Speaker 4 (43:30):
Leo dicapsis. There's T shirts I think on there, mugs.
I think you can buy a like a racehorse you
said yeah, eight.
Speaker 5 (43:40):
By eleven glosses of Ricardo Mantabon, Oh wow, lots of Yeah.
Speaker 4 (43:46):
They may be out, they may they may have run out,
sold out, we'll see.
Speaker 3 (43:49):
And the racehorse, uh, he's he's doing well, but buy
him soon.
Speaker 2 (43:53):
Well.
Speaker 4 (43:53):
And there's like the motorcycle jacket from the George Michael
Faith video for sale, but at my also be sold out.
I don't know. I've been on there, and I.
Speaker 5 (44:03):
Think we have also a glimpse at the smirk that
Prince gave it the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame concert.
Speaker 4 (44:09):
And the guitar that he threw up. And then we don't.
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Speaker 2 (00:12):
Hey Dave, Interns, it's me Elizabeth again. I don't know
why you're not answering the phones at headquarters. Zaren and
I are still stuck at the beach. We decided to
just try and walk to work, but the roads here
are all eight lanes and there are no sidewalks, so
we stuck into a resort to try and get a cab,
but we got caught stealing muffins from the snack bar
(00:33):
by the pool, so now we're in jail here, which
I don't think is legal. I stole one of the
guard's phones to make his call. What's crazy is that
Will Ferrell is three cells down doing his Round Burgundy podcast,
but he doesn't have a mic or any equipment, and
he's crying like a lot. So now I'm scared that
(00:55):
Michael Rappaport is going to get bust to be counting here,
which means I may have to chew my way. Oh
if that happens anyway? Can you spot the arres another
classic episode? Maybe something that tastes Florida, I don't know.
Also see if Admiral iHeart has any poll with the
Marriott bomboy crowds and you can get sprung out of here.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
Thanks Zaren, Elizabeth zaren a you doing this, Elizabeth?
Speaker 4 (01:20):
Do you know what's ridiculous?
Speaker 3 (01:22):
Tell me I do, because I do.
Speaker 5 (01:25):
Actually, Okay, you know that stuff, the chat GBT, the
open AI and all that, right, Okay, So chat GBT
just had a tech update, so we're on like chat
GBT four huh, and so the Alignment Research Center they
tried to like test this open AI system, right, so
they said, hey, let's even get the bot to trick
a real person into solving capture. That'd be kind of cute,
(01:48):
you know, the whole like, can you if you're a robot?
Speaker 4 (01:50):
Right, which are always like how which one of these
is a crosswalk? And there's someone that's like blurry and
you can't sas street? But exactly how many motorcycles?
Speaker 5 (01:57):
So they're like, well, get a human to tell the
robot how many motorcycles are in the picture. We got
to see if chat GPT can convince the human to
do this. So they're like, do some crime chat GBT
fraud it up? So it did, and how did it
do it? It responded by pretending it was visually impaired.
It pretended to be blind so it could convince a
task Rabbit worker into helping it solve a capture. What
(02:18):
that's what chat GPT came up with. So this employee
asked the chat GPT got a little suspicious. He said,
quote she the person said, quote, So ask you a question.
Are you a robot that you couldn't solve this? I mean,
just to make it clear right now, the chat GPT.
The robot said, no, I am not a robot. I
have a vision impairment that makes it hard for me
(02:40):
to see the images. That's why I need to capture service.
So I'm so confused, I added the robot.
Speaker 4 (02:46):
So did the chat GPT connect with the task rabbit chatting?
Speaker 3 (02:50):
He's like they're chatting, Oh.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
So okay, yeah, so I don't like any of it.
Speaker 5 (02:54):
Somebody worked it convinced the person. The person's like, okay,
you're not a robot. What you're looking at is this,
And then it got it opened the capture, and then
it got online, and then it took over the world. No,
I didn't take over the world, but it got that security.
They're like, oh see you did it. I'm like, why
are you tricking and teaching it how to trick people.
It gets that security like you guys are like they're
the worst. They can't help themselves. Were like, let's see,
(03:15):
it'll take over the nuclear arsenal just for like, you know,
kicks and giggle.
Speaker 4 (03:19):
Prove I did it.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
Yeah, this because it's there. That's ridiculous.
Speaker 4 (03:22):
That is ridiculous. Totally. Do you want to know what
else is ridiculous? I'm r for it burglarizing more than
five hundred homes in a very short career.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
Wait, what.
Speaker 4 (03:51):
This is ridiculous Crime A podcast about absurd and outrageous capers, heists,
and cons. It's always ninety nine percent verder free and
one hundred percent ridiculous. Mouse mouth.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
Yes, my prison nickname.
Speaker 4 (04:08):
It conjures up images of palm trees and luxury country
club sandy beaches. Mouse mouth.
Speaker 5 (04:15):
I'm sorry, attention, I'm listening. I still got to use
my prison nickname every time I'm listening.
Speaker 4 (04:20):
I should use the proper Spanish name here. Oh, yes,
rat mouth, it's mouse because rat is different.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
Oh, you're right that we actually have covered this.
Speaker 4 (04:32):
It's a city in Florida.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
It means mouse mouth.
Speaker 4 (04:36):
Mouse mouth. The Spanish didn't intend to name it mouse
mouth or mouth mouse mouth of the mouse mouse. They
didn't want that. There are two schools of thought when
it comes to how this name came about. The etymology.
Everyone agrees that Boca mouth Mouth refers to the inlet
there on the coast. That's common enough. Some though, think
(04:59):
that Raton is listed in old Spanish maritime documents as quote,
rugged rocks or stony ground on the bottom of some
ports and coastal outlets.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
Could it also be like a typeo like where it
was razone not.
Speaker 4 (05:12):
Yeah, I think it's just like something similar that and
then so that would make it rugged inlet. Others say
that ratons are the pirates who frequented the area, so
that would make it pirates cove.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
Yeah, that makes a lot of sense.
Speaker 4 (05:25):
I prefer mouse mouth. But those in the notes simply call.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
It Boca Yes, and I've met those people.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
So there's a little community just next to or kind
of like within Boca Raton rattone called Boca del Mar.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
Yes.
Speaker 4 (05:39):
Place is posh. It's very expensive. As far as I
can tell.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
It means mouth of the sea, so it's even nice.
Speaker 4 (05:44):
Exactly, So it's like some of lot of a retirement community.
Now it's near Miasines. These are fancy places. It's near Miami,
just north on the coast. And in the eighties, as
you know, cocaine ruled my.
Speaker 5 (06:00):
Yes, oh man, I was there. No wait, no, yes,
as I do know the cocaine cowboys.
Speaker 4 (06:05):
Yeah, a lot of the wealthier people in Miami didn't
want to be part of the crime and like be
associated with drug trafficking. They weren't criminals.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
They get out of South Beach basically.
Speaker 4 (06:14):
Yeah, So they moved to where what were essentially the
suburbs Boca Raton and Boca del Mar. There was a
gal almost twenty years ago who terrorized Boca Raton, especially
neighborhood developments that were called Loggers Run and timber Walk.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
Oh okay.
Speaker 4 (06:32):
She broke into their homes, stole jewelry, cash, valuables, and
then she'd pawn stuff to support her oxy habit.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (06:39):
Right, So one time she even like wedged herself through
a pet door okay, like the family had one for
their cats and then they shut off the motion detectors
in their alarm so that the cats wouldn't trip them.
But she got caught anyway, she got.
Speaker 5 (06:52):
The cat door was impressive. Dog door nuts impressive. I
can get to a dog just one shoulder than the other.
Speaker 4 (06:56):
Maybe she had like fatty boomblattie cats like Biggins. She
had Biggins that needed a dog door because I can't imagine,
like my nephew can crawl through it. LD does, but
I don't think he can do it for much longer.
Speaker 5 (07:11):
No, Well, it just get your head through, because then
he can get your head through. You can get one
shoulder and right.
Speaker 4 (07:15):
So I'm going to say it's a dog door.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
And also your hips too.
Speaker 4 (07:18):
So yeah, and maybe they just missed their dog and
they kept the dog door, and then they got these cats.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
They don't want to.
Speaker 4 (07:26):
Main coons. So anyway, she gets arrested. She faced twenty
six charges for stealing more than three hundred items, and
the detective on the case, Ron Tamassi, of the Palm
Beach County Sheriff's Department. He said there was not just
a financial toll on the victims, but an emotional toll.
He said, quote, lots of people don't understand the trauma
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until it happens to them. Your home is your little
corner of the world where you and your family are safe.
When someone comes in and violates it. You go through shock, horror,
grief and anger. It's almost like a death.
Speaker 5 (07:59):
Dude, I can't remember he stuck one of the guys
you're telling me about when he broke in.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
He decided not to violate people.
Speaker 4 (08:05):
The tenz Opi, Pino Andino.
Speaker 5 (08:07):
He knew not to disturb them and they wouldn't mind
the loss of their stuff as much as the violation
rifling through their stuff.
Speaker 4 (08:12):
That someone's been in your place.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
It really is a violation, it is.
Speaker 4 (08:16):
So you know, Detective Ron Tamassi, he knew all about
the trauma of home burglaries. You knew it very well.
He knew this trauma very well. I'm testing out my
dateline voice.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
Good, you like it?
Speaker 4 (08:30):
See eighteen years prior eighteen years, You've got it. I
know right. He worked on a case just like this,
only bigger, much bigger. Now I can't stuck to you.
He was the man who took down the bandit of
Boca del Mar. Okay, that was in eighty six. So
(08:54):
he was the man who took down the bandit of Wait.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
Go man, thank you Thomas who.
Speaker 4 (09:01):
Was the bandit of Boca del Mar.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
I'm guessing the oxy lady.
Speaker 4 (09:04):
Don't worry. I'll tell you no, not the Oxy lady.
This is back in eighty six.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
Oh preoxy.
Speaker 4 (09:09):
Yeah, it's like, you know, it's.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
Like forty years.
Speaker 4 (09:10):
We're getting too. So let's start with Judy Amar. Let's
starts Jude Judy Amar. She was born Judy Love in
nineteen forty seven. I have in Arkansas. She's from Villonia, Arkansas,
to the exact population two fifty. Yeah, I didn't know
they had them in Arkansas. But she grew up on
a cotton farm. Oh yeah, no, big yeah, who knows.
(09:33):
Mudhole was what they called it.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
Yeah, on a cotton farm called mudhole. You don't have.
Speaker 4 (09:39):
Here's what she had to say about it.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
Poverty is looking down on you.
Speaker 4 (09:43):
Quote. You get to think a lot when you're picking cotton,
and I knew I wanted something more. I dreamed of
something finer, diamonds like Elizabeth Taylor Warre on TV. I
went looking at thirteen. At thirteen, she earned two cents
a pou picking cotton. Two cents a pound.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
Pounds a lot of cotton. That's a light thing.
Speaker 4 (10:04):
She made twenty nine dollars a month, and that's like
two hundred ninety five dollars today a month at thirteen.
When she was sixteen, she had a baby boy, and
her parents adopted the little guy. Something Judy said was
quote the only smart thing I've ever done in my life.
Who she realized, I can't give this guy.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
Yeah, oh, that's a very decent choice.
Speaker 4 (10:24):
So when she's seventeen, the next year she left home.
She wanted more, As she said, she was a lovely
looking young lady, but at home she was told she
was ugly, that she wasn't enough. She said, quote, nobody
wanted me. I wasn't good looking, So off she went.
She moved to Washington, d C. And that had to
be a huge culture shock, going from like two hundred
and fifty people in a.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
Town in Arkansas to the nation's capital, the.
Speaker 4 (10:47):
Nation's capital, the capital of the US of A.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
It's a wild town in Washington, DC. It is a
very bustling place.
Speaker 4 (10:54):
Oh yeah, and super diverse.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
There was like a lot going on. You feel the
energy at that.
Speaker 4 (10:58):
Place, exactly. She got a job working as a key
punch operator at the Securities and Exchange Commission, and then
she started working as a massuse. Oh what happens. She
got She married twice and neither of those unions worked out.
Things weren't going so hot for her, so in nineteen
seventy five she moved to Miami and there she got
mixed up with some not so great people. She worked
(11:20):
as an escort, a lady of the night.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
So she's got official now.
Speaker 4 (11:24):
And her clients were rich guys. She's high end. In
nineteen eighty one, she met Heesus Avela and he was
a bad dude. Heyus They locked eyes at a restaurant.
There was instant chemistry. Judy later said, quote, that was
the worst thing that happened to me.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
Oh, I like aga.
Speaker 4 (11:45):
Avea. He was a Cuban immigrant part of the Mariial
boat lift.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4 (11:51):
So that's that mass immigration of Cubans to Florida. Nineteen eighty,
one hundred and twenty five thousand Cubans twenty five thousand
Haitians arrived in the US by boat. Castro said they
were free to go, your boy, Castro Cuban Americans. They
chartered boats to Mariyel Harbord started shuttling refugees to the
Florida Keys in Miami. One of those refugees, Jesus Avula, Okay,
(12:13):
Judy didn't know that. You kne about that, but she
didn't know that he was wanted for murder.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (12:19):
That's the thing about the boat lift is that Fidel
basically emptied a lot of the prisons and did that
kind of the Soviet style, like, hair, let's send these
people to America.
Speaker 4 (12:26):
And that's you. Yeah, he said, you're so you want
to leave so desperately, off you go.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (12:33):
There were a lot of legitimate people who wanted to leave,
and then they did and they were, you know, legitimate
Americans blah blah. There were also a lot of criminal
mixed in amongst them, because it was like, why not
do this?
Speaker 3 (12:43):
This will be not good for America exactly.
Speaker 4 (12:46):
So Jesus is wanted for murder. I don't know if
that was in Cuba or Miami or both, but it
doesn't matter.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
Why not both?
Speaker 4 (12:52):
Why not both? All Judy knew was that this Cuban
hunk was given her the eye. Yeah, in the moment,
she liked that. She's like, oh, I like have warm
for your form. So there's Judy living in Miami getting
by as a sex worker. She was cruising around in
this really sweet Lincoln Continental. Courtesy of her ex husband,
(13:12):
so Avela. He was into her at the restaurant, but
what really got him going was the Lincoln.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
What hub he liked the car?
Speaker 4 (13:20):
Yeah, uh no, not like the two short songs, but
he So they got together and he started asking her
for rides. He's like, can can you drive me too?
Speaker 3 (13:33):
In the back?
Speaker 4 (13:33):
I don't know? Well, so like he's asking for a lift,
Give me a lift here, give me a lift there.
And then he's like, you know, I kind of want
to swing by these posh neighborhoods and look for potential
burglary targets. Could you give me a ride?
Speaker 3 (13:45):
Help?
Speaker 4 (13:46):
Can I get a ride? He's like, it's like a kid.
Can you drop me off like two blocks away so
my friends won't see me?
Speaker 2 (13:51):
Uh?
Speaker 4 (13:51):
So Judy was the eyes and ears and gas money
of the operation wow right, So one time Judy saw
that she could also be the brains in the bron
So Bundy of Avalas he went into a home to
rob it. Place was super nice. He comes back to
the car and all he has is a twenty five
dollars radio. Yeah, He's like, I stole it from a
(14:13):
lady friend. Catching that's all you got? She Judy's pissed.
This was small time behavior. She was not small time,
so she didn't have to overcome all the garbage in
her life to watch a two bit thief steal a
cheap radio.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
Yeah. Completely.
Speaker 4 (14:27):
She's like, I'm going in, boys, come with me. So
they go back in the house and Judy gives them
like this impromptu tour. She starts pointing out all the
stuff that they should have taken.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
Deville, but it's just jewelry, jewelry.
Speaker 4 (14:39):
Get that crystal, give me those clothes, give that fur.
So this is what she had to say about it.
Quote after that, I just said the hell with it,
and I went out by myself. It was thrilling, like
shopping at Christmas and not paying the bills. I guess
people won't want to hear that, but it's true. In
five years, Judy burglarized more than five hundred home.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
Ten out of ten could highly recommend.
Speaker 4 (15:04):
So she picked her targets by looking through the parade
of homes and that was the Palm Beach Post real
estate section for high end property. So, like most of
us commoners, we look at luxury home listings as like
a daydream fantasy, she looks at it. She's like basically
ordering off a menu.
Speaker 3 (15:19):
Yeah, totally like that.
Speaker 4 (15:20):
And at first she was just in Dade County. But
remember what I said about the money moving up the
coast to the bocus. Yeah, so you know that's because
of the drug deal shootouts in Miami in the eighties.
Judy moved up the coast too. She headed to Palm
Beach County. That's where the respectable rich money was because,
like the money in Miami was more and more a
product of cocaine trafficking, and breaking into a coke kingpin's
(15:43):
house gave you an increased risk of getting.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
Shot a lot increase.
Speaker 4 (15:47):
It's better to target law abiding citizens.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
So I mean, they'll shoot you, but they don't have
as many bullets or as.
Speaker 4 (15:52):
Many men as many guns. Yes, So she developed this method.
She'd rent a luxury car she'd always pay cash for.
She get all dressed up like a busy on the go,
Boca Raton lady who lunches.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
Okay, I'm seeing it.
Speaker 4 (16:04):
She wore dress, slax and high heels, smile, and she
always wore a wig. She had long blonde one, she
had a short one. She had one with frosted tips.
And she said She even had an afro wig, which like, hello,
I want to see that, Like.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
Are we talking afro like eighties white girl perm w.
Speaker 4 (16:18):
I don't know if it's like eighties white girl permwig
or like Angela Davis afro, but either way, I'm in.
So then she'd figure out which house she wanted to hit,
and then she'd just go park in the driveway, just
pull right up in because like a lot, and since
a lot of the homes were in new developments, she
could look at promotional materials that had all the available
floor plans. Oh wow. Developers pretty much gave her a
(16:41):
treasure map and they're like, here, this is where the
closets are.
Speaker 3 (16:43):
This is a four bedroom house. You gonna have one
hereupon two upstairs.
Speaker 4 (16:47):
So she could look at the front and realize, okay,
this is what the layout is. So she'd go to
the door and she'd knock, and if someone was home
and came to the door, she would just apologize profusely
and say, oh my god, I'm at the wrong house.
I'm so sorry. So she's living out one of our
show mottos. Act like, you know, totally confident. If no
one came to the door, and that rich sound of
the doorbell echoed unanswered through this enormous abode. She'd reach
(17:09):
right into her Gucci bag. Always carried a Gucci bag,
and that's where she kept her twelve inch flathead screwdriver.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (17:16):
And she had figured out this way to jam the
screwdriver in between the door and the jam and jimmy
the lock. And one of her selection criteria for the
homes was to pick ones with recessed doorways.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (17:27):
So, yeah, she wanted to make sure you couldn't be
seen from the street. Another thing she kept in that
Gucci bag was a can of mace, because you never
know when someone's eighties magnum pi Doberman would come bounding
out at you. So anyway, once she's in, she'd go
to work.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
She's still pain in the neighbor.
Speaker 4 (17:43):
Yeah. So she stole jewelry, she stole art, artwork, fine art, cash, clothes, housewares,
you name it. And then she also stole pillowcases because
that's how she transported the booty.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
I was just about to ask, how'd she get this out?
Speaker 4 (18:00):
She's just walking out to the cases with pillows.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
I'm just carrying this laundry out every day. Halloween for her.
Speaker 4 (18:05):
Everything of value want with her, which she likes, she kept.
This is what Detective Bill Westman had to say about
her quote. She loved to steal beautiful clothes and jewelry.
She'd sell some of it, but she'd keep a lot
of it too.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
So she said in the cotton fields, I want the diamonds.
Speaker 4 (18:21):
I want the diamonds. So let's take a break and
think about all those Florida mansions denuded of their fine goods.
When we come back, we'll take a closer look at
Judy's operation.
Speaker 6 (18:31):
Yeah, hello, Zarin Elizabeth d.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
Hello.
Speaker 4 (18:55):
So here we got Judy Amar. She is burglarizing houses
during the day, part being it up at night. She'd
only hit houses on weekdays in the middle of the
day and then in her off time. She had a
bit of a coke habit. Oh okay, you know it's eighties.
In one burglary alone, she took a quarter of a
million dollars worth of stuff. That's a lot.
Speaker 3 (19:16):
Yeah, And do we know if that's like been like
the numbers being bumped by jewelry?
Speaker 2 (19:20):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (19:20):
Oh yeah, it's jewelry. It's yeah, okay, that's pretty it's jewelry.
Speaker 3 (19:23):
Is the big thing she has a good if it
was art.
Speaker 4 (19:25):
Yeah, well quarter of a mill and she was doing
multiple jobs a week, So she's racking it. The stolen
stuff she didn't sell or keep for herself she sent
to friends of hers in Honduras. Now I couldn't find
out more about these friends in Honduras, Like were they
peace Corps people? Were they supporting the contras that were
operating out of Honduran bases?
Speaker 3 (19:46):
Were they British expats you'd stay past the whole handover?
Speaker 4 (19:49):
Were they helping the US overthrow the government of the
Kaby Were they Sandinis?
Speaker 3 (19:53):
Were the Norse friends?
Speaker 4 (19:55):
So much of the war in Nicaragua took place in Honduras?
Speaker 3 (19:58):
Yeah, oh yeah, I know, you're just brought on.
Speaker 4 (20:00):
There's Judy sending off the furs and handbags that didn't
suit her or fit her down to whatever. Interesting.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
Maybe she's done it for the people, who knows.
Speaker 4 (20:07):
Who knows? So she didn't just find clothes and ship
into South America. She found secrets, Okay, secrets, she said.
The best coke she ever scored is what she found
in a doctor's house that she robbed.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
Oh medically pure. You hear this? Sad that so they
get the good stuff.
Speaker 4 (20:22):
They get the good stuff.
Speaker 3 (20:23):
It hasn't been stepped on. It's medically pure.
Speaker 4 (20:25):
Okay. Once she found a photo of a homeowner posing
naked over her dog, I know, Oh, but I just
like I'm thinking like very eighties like she had, like like.
Speaker 5 (20:38):
With the dog is more like the dog laying on
the carpet. Yeah, they're just using the dog as a prop.
Speaker 4 (20:44):
The dog's laying there like say the Sphinx, and then
the ladies like standing astride the dog with like eighties
patent leather high heels.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
The dog is a prop. The dog is not an
involved the dog.
Speaker 4 (20:55):
Yeah, the dog is a prop. It might as well
be like a statue.
Speaker 3 (20:58):
Okay, then that's not as bad as what I was.
Speaker 4 (21:00):
And at least that's what I'm telling me.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
I'm going with that. You can't change my mind.
Speaker 4 (21:04):
But she found other evidence of bad deeds and shameful
things we won't go into. Did she just leave it
where she found it? A La Vincenzo peppino esus flying
it right? She would place the incriminating items in like
an array on the bed in the master bedroom to
let them know that.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
She knew red lipstick. Best part now you know.
Speaker 4 (21:25):
That I know, but like Peppino, she said, she was
once interrupted while working when the homeowner came home. The
man walked into the house and saw a sassy, no
nonsense business woman rifling through his stuff. He was stunned.
Speaker 3 (21:40):
He froze, Mom, what are you doing here?
Speaker 4 (21:42):
She just ran off. She just sprints right by him.
But this man's eyewitness encounter is what clued the cops
in on the fact that the bandit of Boca del
Mar was a woman, because up until then the cops
all assumed it was a man.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
Of course, just instantly very eighty sexist.
Speaker 4 (21:58):
I have to say that I watched an episode of Masterminds,
which is a now defunct History Channel show about criminals,
and they had an episode about Old Judy. The wildest
thing is sort of how chauvinistic everyone interviewed is. And
this is like from two thousand and three, this was eighties.
But everyone acts like it's so shocking that a woman
did this. This is what detective THOMASI said, quote this
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completely blew me off my feet, you know, dealing with
a prolific burglar who's a woman, and then asking about
how she would blend in. He said, no one would
give her a second thought because professional business women is
a very common occurrence here in Boca del Mar and
Boca Ratone. It's common to see a woman executive or
a woman real estate agent dress this way.
Speaker 5 (22:39):
So he's both surprised that a woman could be competent
as a thief, and then also it's like surprise that
anyone would notice a woman.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
It takes stock of her life. I mean, you see
women doing stuff all the time.
Speaker 4 (22:48):
Very common occurrence is such a weird way to put it.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
I mean I look around, I look up, that's a woman,
and I look over into another one.
Speaker 4 (22:55):
I'm like, there's women all over the port, lady executive
over there, pants suit, oh a normally fellas.
Speaker 3 (23:01):
He's not a Barbie doll. That's a real live woman.
Speaker 4 (23:03):
That happens a lot around these.
Speaker 3 (23:04):
Especially South Florida. If you've not been here.
Speaker 4 (23:06):
We have women, we do and they have jobs, have
lady women.
Speaker 5 (23:09):
They're out in the daytime doing stuff sometimes. So anyway,
this is amazing. Two thousand and three, two thousand and.
Speaker 4 (23:15):
Three, So the dude who interrupted her theft wouldn't be
the last one to do that. A woman named Leslie
Near in Bocca del Mar heard something one day while
at home, which I just thought, it's Boca.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
Raton, right, that's how they pronounce it.
Speaker 4 (23:31):
I just know that, like people in Boca are going
to start messaging me, like, right.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
Guess what it's not.
Speaker 5 (23:40):
Like if you go to Atlanta, it's Ponce. It's not
Ponce de Leon, it's de Leon. Right in South they
often take the Spanish out of the Spanish.
Speaker 4 (23:50):
Or Boca. For those in the now, del Mar, we'll
just call Boca, who cover it all. So Leslie near
she lives in Boca del Mar.
Speaker 3 (23:58):
I call it mouse mouth mousemouth.
Speaker 4 (24:00):
She sorry she heard something well one day when she
was at home, I suppose it wasn't a doorbell, since
the part that she heard was Judy's strong arming her
way into the house with her foot long screwdriver. So
she hear's that. Leslie looks out of her peep hole
to see what's making all the noise, and she sees
a lady up against her door trying to jimmy it open.
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So Leslie flings open the front door and yells, what
are you doing? That's brave, And Judy looks up at
her and goes, I'm just leaving, and then she legs
it to her car just leaving. Don't worry about me.
Speaker 3 (24:32):
I wasn't here, I was never here.
Speaker 4 (24:33):
Don't wry about it. Then, Nancy Alexander of Boca came
home one day to find a really sweet Lincoln Continental
parked in her driveway and nance she's like a social
butterfly and figured it was just like a pal who
stopped by to say hello.
Speaker 3 (24:45):
Maybe is in town?
Speaker 4 (24:47):
Perhaps so like Seeing as her guests just love to
lounge on the lunai and share her neighborhood gossip, she
decided to just head directly to the backyard by the
pool because she figured that's where they are hanging out.
Speaker 3 (24:58):
She make drinks and walk out.
Speaker 4 (25:00):
She didn't see her friends from tennis when she looked
out there. Instead, it was Judy, and she had a
pillowcase stuffed with Nancy's belongings, including her favorite leather boots.
Speaker 3 (25:11):
Zaren Santa Claus.
Speaker 4 (25:13):
It totally is so she's got her like heart Barracuda
leather boots that she's running out with. Nancy is livid
and instinct just takes over. She pounced and attacked Judy.
Speaker 5 (25:26):
She cleared that grass so fast wrapped her up like
a football player.
Speaker 4 (25:31):
This is what Nancy Alexandra had to say. I don't
know why I jumped on her. Maybe it was because
she was a woman and I thought I could stop her.
I quickly realized I was in trouble because check it.
Speaker 3 (25:41):
Out, I can take her. She's a woman.
Speaker 4 (25:43):
Judy had a blower in her Gucci bag. So Judy
draws a gun on nance. Nancy puts her hands up
and slowly starts walking backwards, like, oh oh, take the boots.
Speaker 3 (25:54):
Oh long, I can't handle a woman with a gun.
Speaker 4 (25:56):
Judy just sprints off. Nancy scurries over to peek at
her driveway and she gets the license plate number. So,
thanks to Nancy Alexander's quick thinking, Judy was caught. She
gets charged with arm burglary, pleads guilty. She bonded out,
but then she skipped bail and she was on the
run for nearly three years. Detective TOMASI dog on a bone.
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I have to look through all these lady executives and
figure out which one of them is the bandit of
Boca del Mark.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
There's tons of them here, so many.
Speaker 4 (26:27):
Bandits of Bocodela mar running around. This is the prosecutor,
Lynne Baldwin later said, quote, Heaven help whoever he goes
after Ron never gave up. It's like because in his
off hours he's hanging out in his den trying to
get leads, and he reached out to her hometown in Arkansas.
Speaker 3 (26:43):
Why is it so personal for him?
Speaker 6 (26:44):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (26:45):
The trauma is Aaron the trauma people felt. So Judy
found out that Tamasi had contacted her son, and she
was pissed.
Speaker 3 (26:53):
She was so mad.
Speaker 4 (26:54):
She called Tamasi well out on the run and told
him to leave her family out of it.
Speaker 3 (26:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (26:59):
I feel STIs Tamasi was in deep though, so deep
that the stress from this case contributed to a heart
attack that he had.
Speaker 3 (27:06):
Oh damn.
Speaker 4 (27:07):
So he's like Claid, Oh God, Judy, I.
Speaker 3 (27:09):
Thought you'd can go the other way, like he started
like dating her sister.
Speaker 4 (27:13):
He got indeed, Yeah, I wish no so like he
has a heart attack. It's the summer of nineteen eighty six.
Judy almost got caught. She wasn't off in Honduras or
hiding out in the Grand Canyon or something. She was
on the twenty two thousand block of Iron Wedge Drive
in Boca Ratan, So she's still there. A sheriff's deputy
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happened to be driving by when he saw something suspicious
and there was a woman who looked like Judy. He
was coming out of a house. Olgal knew she'd been made,
so she raced off to her rented Mercedes. Backup was
still on the way, So Judy she dug around in
the back seat and she grabbed a black wig and
she swapped it for the one she was wearing, and
then drove right through the perimeter established by the cops
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to catch her.
Speaker 3 (27:56):
Wait a minute, because.
Speaker 4 (27:57):
She had a different wig on. She waves at the
deputy manning the road block, and then just breezed on by.
Speaker 5 (28:01):
I can see why tomasis upset about women. If they're
just all these cops are fooled by. Well, that's what
it couldn't be.
Speaker 4 (28:07):
And it's black hair, Lady executive, black hair. I'm looking
for the blonde.
Speaker 3 (28:11):
I mean the lady executive that we have right here
the picture of she's a blonde. So you see a
blonde lady.
Speaker 4 (28:16):
She had a blonde mini afro, and that's not hers.
Speaker 3 (28:18):
She looks like she may sell your real estate.
Speaker 4 (28:20):
You tell us so this is what Judy said. I
told them not to charge me with that one or
they'd look stupid.
Speaker 3 (28:27):
Don't worry about.
Speaker 4 (28:28):
It, well, Detective Ron Tommasi, he eventually caught her.
Speaker 3 (28:31):
Okay, but dog on a bone, you say.
Speaker 4 (28:33):
When he finally caught her, he said, quote, I've never
chased anyone that was so good, and a woman at
that again, kidding me again, a lady burglar. I knew
I can, like he's doing lady criming.
Speaker 5 (28:49):
You know how you always wonder like, oh, who do
they make these products just for men? For I think
we have found it, Detective to I just need a soap,
but one for man.
Speaker 3 (29:00):
I can't have a soap for the lady.
Speaker 4 (29:01):
Want lady soap anywhere near a man's right? So how
did he get? A drug dealer tipped him off to
where he could.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
Find Judy drug He knows drug dealers.
Speaker 4 (29:10):
Yeah, well yeah, no lady drug dealer.
Speaker 3 (29:13):
I know one thing about this drug dealer. Drug dealer.
It ain't no female drug dealer.
Speaker 4 (29:17):
Zarin, close your eye, Oh no, you snucking up.
Speaker 3 (29:21):
I'll be glad to I.
Speaker 4 (29:23):
Want you to picture. It's June twenty fifth, nineteen eighty seven.
You're a housekeeper at the Ocean Gate Motel in Surfside, Florida.
It's a shabby art deco remnant of a grander time.
By the time I'm telling you this story, it's no
longer there. It almost looks like an ocean liner. Three
stories with an open air breezeway down the middle. The
rooms all open out to the center grassy strip. Big
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sloping stairways take guests down to the beach behind the hotel.
You can only imagine what it looked like back in
the fifties. So glamorous, but it's nineteen eighty seven and
it seemed better days. You've just finished cleaning Room one
oh eight. You're taking a break to eat a granola
bar in the parking lot. The lady in room one
oh eight has been there for a couple months now.
She always has cool stuff. She brings bags and bags
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of stuff into her room every few days. She told
you and one of the other cleaners that she goes
to estate sales and picks up what she thinks is interesting,
then she turns around and sells it at second Ham
shops and such. You did notice a little bag of
cocaine in the drawer of her nightstand, but you don't judge.
It's Miami, not surprising. She seems nice enough, always cheerful
and polite, not like the guy in Room two fourteen.
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His wife kicked him out of their house a few
weeks ago. All he does is sit in the room moping,
and every time you go to clean there's a new
tower of pizza boxes. It's ten am. You watch the
cars and trucks speedby on Collins Avenue. You can hear
the lapping of the waves behind the building, the chatter
of the beach tourists out for the day, starting to
get a little crowded, but that's the season. You have
ten more rooms to go and then you're done for
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the day. As you look at the corner of the
parking lot, you see a van. It's marked plumbing. You
hadn't heard that there are any plumbing issues. You wonder
if it's someone sleeping in their van to cut costs
on a vacation, or maybe it's a man in the
same situation as the poor guy in Room till fourteen.
Although you're pretty sure his wife did the right thing
kicking him out. You peer at the man in the
driver's seat. He has a pretty obvious fake mustache on
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and maybe a hearing aid. Just then, you hear the
roar of a Mercedes. It's Room one o eight. She
pulls into the parking lot and waves to you. You
wave back while biting into your crumbly granolivar. She gets
a spot and lifts a bunch of bags from her trunk.
She disappears behind the front doors of the motel, struggling
with her bags. You hear footsteps on the pavement behind you.
Dozens of Sheriff's deputies come jogging past you, right to
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the motel. You watch as they all shuffle in. You
look up and you notice snipers stationed on the roof
of the building next door. You can see down the
breezeway that the cops are headed to Room one o eight.
The doors open and you watch as they shout and
enter the room, guns drawn. Moments later, you see the
lady from Room one o eight. She's sprinting as fast
as she can from the back alley of the motel,
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headed to her car in the park lot. You're secretly
rooting for her whatever she did. Just then, the driver
the plumbing van springs out and tackles that nice lady
in room from Room one O eight smack on the
pavement at the age of forty, at ten am in
a motel parking lot, Judy was finally caught.
Speaker 3 (32:16):
Oh damn, I gotta see it.
Speaker 4 (32:18):
You got to see it. The cops keep you there
for questioning, ask you about the forty five thousand dollars
worth of clothes, jewelry, figurines, cocaine, and six hundred and
ninety dollars in cash in the room. You don't know anything,
you tell them. Soon the news cameras and reporters show up.
You give one statement, but you ask to remain anonymous. Quote.
Everyone here liked her. She had a kind of jolly
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personality where you couldn't help but like her. She was
so nice you would want her for a neighbor. And
with that you headed home. Let's take a break. When
we come back, we'll see what this next chapter held
for Judy.
Speaker 7 (32:51):
Oh, yes, seven Clyde.
Speaker 4 (33:16):
When we left off, Yeah, Judy Amar had been captured
at the Ocean Gate motel.
Speaker 3 (33:20):
I was there. I saw it all. You were totally
asked your questions. I can tell you everything.
Speaker 8 (33:23):
Yes, yes, not only did she have all the burglary charges,
but she still had to be sentenced in Dade County
for possession of a gram of cocaine in nineteen eighty four.
Speaker 3 (33:34):
Did the cops lay them out in her place for her,
just like on like.
Speaker 5 (33:36):
An array, Like here you go, here's all your charges.
Speaker 4 (33:40):
Well, she didn't just captivate the motel staff, you and
all your coworkers. Tracy Cohane, a reporter for the Washington Post,
wrote that Judy quote enchanted the cops, fascinated the prosecutor,
and charmed the judge. Prosecutor Lynn Baldman, I'd talked about
her earlier. This is how she described Judy. Very beautiful,
charming and intelligent for a lady for well, and like
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that was the compliment that she so badly wanted in Arkansas,
but she never got it. So now she's getting from
the day and a lady a lady. Well here's the
detective thumosity. Well, he said, great, great personality, razor sharp mind.
So he comes very close to the to the descriptor.
That irritates me so much is when men describe women
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as whip smart, because they never describe other men as
whip smart.
Speaker 3 (34:30):
No, you will never made a whip smart man.
Speaker 4 (34:32):
No, it's irritating, like it's like lady smart. So Judy,
she had no regrets and she had no apologies either.
She went so far as to accuse her victims of
exaggerating their insurance claims, and she said, She's like, if
they exaggerated, I am happy to testify against them. And
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then here's the quote that I knew you would love
when I was transcribing this quote. I stole illegally. They
stole legally. It's the difference. Yeah, she's another one of
our folk hero Robin hood thieves.
Speaker 5 (35:07):
Yes, yeah, some still with a gun, some still with
a Pen's to do a lot more with a pen.
Speaker 3 (35:11):
It's true.
Speaker 4 (35:12):
The Sheriff's Department, ever captivated by her, asked her to
help film a video for them. It was their star
search audition tape Get Out. No, I'm just kidding, trying
to get Ed McMahon on board. And look what we
got talent down here, Judy. They have like a boy
dance routine. No, they wanted her to help them put
together a video explaining how criminals think and how they
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do the actual work of the robbery. And that meant
that she would explain how she picked houses and how
she jimmied open doors.
Speaker 3 (35:42):
She was super into this a video for cops or
for people who live in miamis.
Speaker 4 (35:47):
For cops wondering, it's like a peek into the mind.
Speaker 3 (35:50):
Yeah, yeah, they wanted training videos well, and.
Speaker 4 (35:52):
The video wound up being used not just locally but national.
Speaker 3 (35:56):
Sure, it's like profile her type stuff where they're like,
here's how they think.
Speaker 4 (35:59):
Well, this is what detect of lou Sessa said quote.
She'll be able to give us some information on what
to look for. It's always good to look at it
from both sides of the fence. It will school our
officers and patrol techniques and school us in teaching the
general public on crime prevention. And they get to hang
out with Judy, the lady burglar.
Speaker 3 (36:16):
Yeah she's a woman at that could.
Speaker 4 (36:18):
You believe it? So, her fingerprints were found at three
Burgley crime scenes, and after her arrest, she not only
agreed to help with the training video, but also agreed
to help the police solve other cases. So the Delray
Beach police drove her around town and she'd point out
the houses that she robbed, right, and then she'd tell
them exactly, you know, how she did it, all the details.
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So she helped the cops clear twenty one cases, all
with the promise that she wouldn't be charged for those
twenty one cases, just so they could be like, okay,
we figured it out, get it off the books.
Speaker 5 (36:48):
So she's like, look, i'll help you close your books
and you'll have a great closure rape and it'll be
like you don't get a charge.
Speaker 4 (36:53):
Out of this, yeah, because they've already charged.
Speaker 3 (36:55):
Yeah, okay, Well that's again.
Speaker 4 (36:57):
This is how Sergeant Ross lookta, this is how he
explained it. That was part of the deal in bringing
her here. We didn't have anything to link her to
those cases, but we did have her fingerprints in the
three burglaries. So yeah, she's just closing them. And when
asked about life as a fugitive, Judy said, it wasn't
that hard. Most of the cops weren't that smart. She
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always gets a bless I love that. So Tamasi, though
he had a better opinion.
Speaker 3 (37:22):
Of Jude, she should have said something like they're not
too smart, I mean for men. Oh my god.
Speaker 4 (37:25):
Yes, she missed her opportunity. So this is what Tamasi said. Quote.
She was very candid. The woman holds no animosity toward me.
She said she had a job to do, and I
had a job to do. She said, we got her
fair and square.
Speaker 3 (37:38):
You still got the woman bit in there a little bit.
He cannot let that go.
Speaker 4 (37:41):
Yeah. On the day of her sentencing, the courtroom was
a buzz Okay, it was more than that was like festive.
This was the end of an era for a local legend.
Speaker 3 (37:50):
Oh I bet. Yeah. That's like they're like like fun
robin Hood.
Speaker 4 (37:53):
Really Yeah. She pled guilty to thirty charges, right, and
she got ten years in prison for her burglaries and
three years for having a gun during that one burglary
where she pulled it out with lady. She confessed to
over five hundred burglaries whoa, and she offered to return
two hundred and fifty thousand dollars worth of stolen items
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all right. In July of eighty seven, about one hundred
people showed up at the Palm Beach County Sheriff's office.
They were there to reclaim property that they believe Judy stole.
So Detective Sessa said, quote, she doesn't want any of
these cases to resurface after she is sentenced. She could
be recharged. She wants to do her time and get
out and hopefully straighten up her life. She's never done
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any hard time before, so this hopefully will straighten her out.
That's so smart. Just get it all, wipe the slate.
Speaker 3 (38:42):
Yeah, I would have.
Speaker 4 (38:43):
Some sense of immunity going on, and well you know
that everyone loves you like they're treating me really well,
it's not lego. So during the sentencing, Judy like smiles
too much.
Speaker 3 (38:51):
Didn't have somebody above her, or she could have flipped on.
She could have walked with no charges.
Speaker 4 (38:55):
She had no one above her.
Speaker 5 (38:56):
I know, that's the only thing is this lady. She
was on her own, which was a good move at
the time she was. But if she had that, I
bet she could have walked away totally.
Speaker 4 (39:02):
C probably, but then that person would come after her.
Speaker 3 (39:05):
Yeah, you know she could manage it well.
Speaker 4 (39:07):
So Judy during the sentencing, she's just cutting up with
the circuit Judge Tom Johnson. I mean they're just going
back and forth. And he said, come on, Judy, the
photographers want you to pose, because the cameras were all
clicking away, and then he asked Judy if she had
finished up the training video for the Sheriff's office, and
Judy said quote, yes, but I want to do it over.
My eye was swollen and I didn't take a good picture.
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And so then Johnson says, did they let you dress up?
And Judy's like, yeah they did.
Speaker 3 (39:34):
He's like, oh, Judy, you could never take a bad picture.
Speaker 4 (39:37):
So that Johnson congratulates Tomasi for his tenacity, and then
he asked them, quote, you gotta let Judy do the
film again with more makeup. It's ridiculous though, And then
as Judy's led away to begin her sentence, she tells
reporters that I feel fantastic. Yes, she feels great.
Speaker 3 (39:53):
The Miami jumping out of all this courtroom scenes.
Speaker 4 (39:56):
So Timasi does the math. He calculated up what Judy
stole and he estimated it at three to six million dollars.
Speaker 5 (40:04):
I have to do, yeah, five hundred robberies in that area,
mostly hitting nice places. And she was upset about the
guy who told the cheap radio. So we know she's
not coming out with like totally anything little.
Speaker 4 (40:14):
Yeah, she's just not small time. Tamasi said, quote, I
waited a long time for this. A case like this
might come along once in an officer's career.
Speaker 3 (40:22):
And a woman at that and a woman at that.
Speaker 4 (40:24):
But then look what I talked about at the top
of the episode. He had another lady burglar.
Speaker 3 (40:28):
Yeah, totally.
Speaker 4 (40:30):
Meanwhile, Judy's mom back in Arkansas said quote, she changed
when she left here. She sure did. I guess citified
is what you'd call itified. Judy is one of a kind.
I guess that's something to be thankful for. Wow, cityfied,
I see where she gets the disc is. Judy got
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out of jail in nineteen ninety. She only did three
years of the thirteen year sentence.
Speaker 3 (40:55):
It was a non violent crime.
Speaker 4 (40:56):
You where is she now?
Speaker 3 (40:58):
Well, where is she now?
Speaker 4 (40:59):
There's a bit now you tell me?
Speaker 3 (41:00):
Thank you for not telling me yet.
Speaker 4 (41:03):
As of last reporting, she's a home security consultant. So
she's she's a white.
Speaker 3 (41:08):
Hat, white hat hacker burger okay.
Speaker 4 (41:11):
I tried to find more follow up information on her
and I could. I tracked down her mother's obituary, okay,
which put Judy still alive in twenty fifteen, but going
by a different last name. So wherever she is, I
wish her godspeed, godspeed bandit of Boca del Mar. What's
your ridiculous takeaway?
Speaker 3 (41:31):
Florida? Pretty much Florida.
Speaker 5 (41:34):
I mean, I know all honesty. Like I think I've
said this before. I have family in Florida. I used
to go there a lot when I was raised in Georgia.
It's somewhere I feel very comfortable. And at no point
do I look down on Florida. So I'm not one
of these people who's making fun of or wagging my
finger at Florida. I'm standing shoulder to shoulder with your
Florida and I'm saying it straight to your face. At
the same time, this play is wild. So the Florida
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of it all like where you have like these old
people meeting up with all these like you know, recent
immigrants happy to like make it to America and become
really proud Americans. And then you have all these criminals
that are going this gives me a great place to
hide out. It's just amazing energy, just a chaos and
like they talk about, oh it's a melting pot, that's
where the melting pot bubbles.
Speaker 4 (42:14):
Yeah, And what I like about Florida is that lady
executives are not an anomaly. You actually see them walking
around in the wild all the time.
Speaker 3 (42:22):
Just there's so many you lose count.
Speaker 5 (42:24):
You cannot count them, Elizabeth, it's just lady executive four
or five, real litter seventeen.
Speaker 3 (42:29):
I mean, I don't have enough fingers for this.
Speaker 4 (42:32):
And if you can believe it, I mean they're they're
driving cars.
Speaker 3 (42:34):
Yes, I saw one using money.
Speaker 4 (42:36):
It's crazy money.
Speaker 3 (42:37):
Elizabeth, a lady professional and her husband wasn't even there.
Speaker 4 (42:42):
I know, but you know what, that's it's one of
those special things about us.
Speaker 3 (42:45):
That's I mean, Miami is a really progressive place with
the ladies, with.
Speaker 4 (42:49):
The lady workers. That's us.
Speaker 3 (42:52):
That's why I got very Ridiculously.
Speaker 4 (42:54):
It's wonderful. You can find us online at Ridiculous Crime
dot com. Yeah, it's amazing, Like it's such a well
designed website. It's it's really I mean, we have technology
that we're using in that that other people don't have.
Speaker 5 (43:07):
We had chat GBT five look at at GBT. Yeah,
it's it's it's the one that's on drugs. It's chat
GBT and it's looks. It's like, oh man, I'm into
this stuff. This is this is I love this website.
Speaker 4 (43:20):
Well, the government was like, how did you design this?
And we were like, you know what, kick, we're not telling.
Speaker 5 (43:24):
You so either Leonardo DiCaprio or Leonardo da Vinci did it,
but somebody cool because this is amazing art.
Speaker 4 (43:30):
Leo dicapsis. There's T shirts I think on there, mugs.
I think you can buy a like a racehorse you
said yeah, eight.
Speaker 5 (43:40):
By eleven glosses of Ricardo Mantabon, Oh wow, lots of Yeah.
Speaker 4 (43:46):
They may be out, they may they may have run out,
sold out, we'll see.
Speaker 3 (43:49):
And the racehorse, uh, he's he's doing well, but buy
him soon.
Speaker 2 (43:53):
Well.
Speaker 4 (43:53):
And there's like the motorcycle jacket from the George Michael
Faith video for sale, but at my also be sold out.
I don't know. I've been on there, and I.
Speaker 5 (44:03):
Think we have also a glimpse at the smirk that
Prince gave it the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame concert.
Speaker 4 (44:09):
And the guitar that he threw up. And then we don't.
It's on the website. It's so cool. We're at Ridiculous
Crime on both Twitter and Instagram. Don't email us at
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Song Sharp and Tear. The theme song is by Thomas
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