February 20, 2025 • 50 mins
A Southern Gothic thriller for the ages, this is the tale of a Coen Brothers-esque kidnapping gone sideways. A bumbling couple take a magazine subscription heir prisoner to fund the purchase of their dream home, and the whole saga is later chronicled by the inventor of a game in which one hunts humans. Listener Lane Price tipped us off to this epic, delivering a Southern fried wild ride.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Ridiculous crime. It's a production of Iheartradioar Elizabeth.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
I'm doing all right today?
Speaker 3 (00:07):
Really?
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Yeah? How are you doing to?
Speaker 4 (00:08):
I'm pretty good. I got it on my checkered pants,
so I feel happy.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
I like this now. So each those aren't like clear checkerboard.
Speaker 4 (00:17):
No, no, I just used it was actually a tablecloth
for like a picnic.
Speaker 5 (00:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
I just had somebody sew them into pants.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
So and then you cut some of the hole.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
That's why.
Speaker 4 (00:27):
Yea, I opened up to air out because it was
like plastic really hot?
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Are you sweating a lot?
Speaker 3 (00:32):
And then but the grip is nice, okay, good.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Aside from your pants. Do you know it's ridiculous?
Speaker 3 (00:38):
Oh my god?
Speaker 4 (00:39):
TV shows, right, Elizabeth, I love you see something You're
like that thing's still on. There's this show called The
Curse of Oak Island.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Yes, I see it on. It's something that I'm like,
there are so many shows on those kind of channels,
like The Amazing. Then and then you watch like five
minutes of an episode.
Speaker 4 (01:03):
Yeah, and there's like five minutes contents stretched out over
twenty two minutes.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Yeah. Yeah, so that okay, I always see it on
the channel.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
Guys, they still haven't found the gold.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
No.
Speaker 4 (01:12):
Yeah, it's they're on this island trying to find gold
and they've been looking and I got big news. They're
very optimistic that this they're really getting close.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
They've got new clues. Elizabeth on season twelve that they're
gone at this time.
Speaker 6 (01:28):
Can't.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
I'm like, how do you get people back past season
eight nine? A Season twelve?
Speaker 2 (01:33):
Is that the one where they like they have like
slew machines.
Speaker 4 (01:37):
You know, you know the Curse of Oak Islands to
the island, and they think that there's like all this
gold buried on there and some people tried digging this
money pit and then they got flooded with seawater and
they've been trying to ever since then, trying to find ways,
but they're worried every time that they were going to
add more seawater and they'll never get to the buried
gold treasure.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
They're always going over like all these like topographical man.
Speaker 4 (01:55):
And there's like a where like I think it's like
seven or eight people have to die before the gold
old is discovered, and I think six people have died
so far, and there's two brothers.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
Oh, so they would fit the bill really legend. So
maybe season thirteen, We're gonna get.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
A real surprise decail.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
But I mean, I couldn't believe it. Season twelve, what
is this Gray's and Natomy over here? Sbu So yeah,
there you go, ridiculous.
Speaker 7 (02:18):
Huh wow, that is ridiculous twelve dumbfounded? Uh do you
want to know what else is ridiculous? Stretching those things
out being saved by snoring?
Speaker 3 (02:30):
Ooh what.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
This is ridiculous? Crime A podcast about absurd and outrageous capers,
heists and cons. It's all we ninety nine percent murder
free and one hundred percent ridiculous. Damn right, I am.
I'm also really excited to tell you about this crime.
Truly ridiculous, like floating over your ages ridiculous. We have
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bumbling criminals, violently rich victim.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
And the main reporting is by the magazine Garden and Gun.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
Yes, like I'm over here doing the Vince McMahon meme.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
The name sounds so unhinged, Garden and Gun.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
It does sound like a joke.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
But if you're if you're from or have lived in
the South, you know it's an amazing yeah, incredible long
form journalism essays by some of the greatest living Southern writers.
Some of the profiles they do have like really over
the top pros, but like it works. It's very iced
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tea on the veranda with well read folks who keep
their politics to themselves and love a hattie story about
their own family history that somehow also ties in with
a local small town scandal.
Speaker 4 (04:06):
Totally maybe also have like a Fuckner quote tucked away
they pull out from time to.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Time, like elevated Southern cuisine and monograms silverware going back
in the like generations, but also like you bring your
own koozy for beers taken out of a cooler in
the back of a Ford expedition at like the fourth
of July. Even love or super Brooks Brothers broadcloth shirts
and like Lily Pulitzer sleeveless shifts. But also you thought
(04:31):
about this well worn flip flops from a gas station
by the beach.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
Oh yeah, I can feel the sunburns.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
Garden and gun. So, like I said, most of the
available reporting on the crime I'm going to tell you
about comes from a really great garden and gun piece. Nice,
and there's also some stuff from like local Birmingham, Alabama
news stuff, But no matter the source, it's beautifully ridiculous.
And to take a page from your book of tracing
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everything in the West back to Memmo the second, the
two time sultan of the Ottoman Empire in the fourteen hundreds.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
I'm telling you like about fourteen fifty three.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
Well, this crime took place in twenty twenty. I want
to take you back to nineteen forty four.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
Okay, please do because.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
That's when Elton Bryson Stephens senior.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
Elton Bryson Stephens Senior.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Yeah, son of a farmer in Clio, Alabama, now c
l Io. Yeah, and I think that's Clio, not Cleo. Yeah, yeah,
I know a Clio. Yeah, that's when he started his
own business, nineteen forty four. So he was always a
hard worker, this guy. As a boy, he'd get up
early milk the family cows bottle and sell the milk
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before school. He sold a lot of stuff actually, like
he sold newspapers, suits, sandwiches, cloverine salve. What it's basically
like vasiline that has rectified turpentine oil in it, white
wax and perfume and it's for like.
Speaker 5 (05:56):
Chapskin kind of different light jelly.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
Oh, we've got an industrial oil that you put on your.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
All this crazy stuff in it, Cloverine Stebs. He went
around selling it as a little kid.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
Love the forties.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
In nineteen twenty eight, he took his savings, which was
one hundred and twenty five dollars. It's about twenty three
hundred dollars today.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
He's in nineteen twenty eighteen.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
Twenty eight, so forty four he starts his own business.
But this is always a kid.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
Okay. The twenties even makes more sense.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
Yeah, he has just gotten out of high school. He
has one hundred and twenty five bucks, so that's like
twenty three hundred if we were walking around today. And
he goes off to college at Birmingham Southern College, Okay,
and that's a good chunk of change. But it wasn't
enough to cover all of his costs, No, not at all.
So he got a full time job as a salesman
in a local dry goods store. Okay, And he spent
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his summers working for Butterick selling subscriptions to their dress
pattern Makers magazine.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
Yes, totally patterns, Yeah, totally, still have some.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Right do you have all in your dress Maks?
Speaker 3 (06:54):
If it's old, Elizabeth, I have some of it.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
So when he's in college. He and five buddies, like
they hitchhiked north to Michigan from Alabama to sell subscriptions
door to door all day long.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
Like reverse snowbird high exactly.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
Oh, they got to get out of the heat and humidity.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
No, yeah, good boy places to sell magazine.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
Subscription the first year, this is what he said, quote,
I saved five hundred dollars and that's like several thousand today.
That meant I didn't have to work as much during
the school year so I could study more. This is
just industrious. Graduates from college goes to law school at
University of Alabama. He married his longtime sweetheart, Alice Varian Robinson.
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They had four kids, including the one who made him
a senior, Elton B. Stevens Junior. Yes, so Elton Senior.
He's sold subscriptions all the way through law school.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
Here he stays with it. He's making good money.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
And he even hired other students to work for him.
And that included fellow Clio native George Wallace, future governor
of Alabama.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
Yeah, George Wallace selling magazine subscriptions.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
So he was the one driving the van. He's like, George,
you get out out the magazine.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
So he gets out of law school and he finds
out that a lawyer makes about seventy five dollars a
month and magazine sales are bringing in one hundred dollars
a week. Yeah, he's stuck with magazines. And he's like,
you know what, I'm just going to expand this empire.
Nineteen thirty seven, he bought into this franchise with Keystone
Reader's Service, and that's like this middleman between the subscribers
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and the publishers, stuff like Saturday Evening Post, Ladies Home Journal.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
This kiny toy doesn't sound like he belongs on this show.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
Just he doesn't.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
Yeah, you know, it's amazing.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
So he and his crew, they're selling subscriptions all over
the Southeast. They hit up an army base and World
War two is just kicking off. Business is booming. The
bases are a gold mine. They just focus on those.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
I mean they need the reading material exactly.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
I touch boys occupy. So he ditches the franchise, starts
his own business, Ebsco, Elton, Bryce and Stevens Company, and
he sold subscriptions to you know, Hawk and subs all
over and he noticed that they're like he's at the
base selling all these subscriptions, and some of them are like, oh,
we'll just buy the magazines to come to like, you know,
(09:17):
this common area. But they didn't have magazine racks at
the bases. So he started another company, Vulcan Industries, to
manufacture and distribute the magazine racks. Then he expands into
publishing and binding. He gets a printing plant, going oh yeah.
So then he's like on these bases and he's you know,
(09:39):
selling all this stuff. He notices that as the war
efforts ramping up, they need recreation equipment for the men.
So you know, they're they're doing boot camp or whatever
and prepping to go, but they need some sort or
if they come back on leave, they need an escape.
And they also as they're built there, you know, the
draft kicks in and we're getting more and more people
(09:59):
in officers clubs are popping. Oh yes, and they need furnishing.
There's there's just you know, so he expands out into
the production and distribution of carpeting and drapery for the
officers clubs. Guys National Billiard America's oldest pool table table.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
Okay, and so then definitely some club.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
Right, So he's just like, he looks around, he sees
a hole. He's like, I'm a fill it. The growth
continues after the war. The company is still in business today.
It handles stuff quote from investments to library periodicals, plastic fishing,
lures to steal joists, indoor advertising to realty. That's according
to the Alabama Business Hall of Fame.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
If you buy it, we'll sell it.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Hepsco they do. They sell everywhere in the US. They
have operations all over the world. And so in nineteen
eighty one, when Elton Senior, he's seventy years old, he
gets into finance. And so he at this time he's retired,
he's turned the rate.
Speaker 4 (11:00):
He's just thinking about because he's at the retirement age.
He's like, I'm going to do some investments.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
I want to do some finance. So he well, he
thought like sometimes it's hard for these businesses to get loans.
Speaker 4 (11:09):
Yes, he knows the other side when you're a young man,
and yeah, a young person going into business.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
So he bought Citizens Bank. It leads Alabama. It had
twenty one million dollars in assets. He buys it for
two million in borrowed funds. It's Citizens Bank, Citizens yeah,
it leads Alabama throws in six hundred thousand dollars of
his own money because he had like browsed around small banks,
like how do I get my foot in the door.
Ten years later, the bank's assets had more than doubled
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because he's just this crazy sales, very industrious, too super aggressive.
He forwarded Alabama Bank Corp. And then he bought Fort
Deposit Bank and Fort Deposit Alabama for three point six million.
Then he started Highland Bank in Birmingham in nineteen eighty eight,
or why not he sold in the late nineties. He
sells Alabama Bank Corp. All it's holding worth about two
(11:57):
hundred and eighty million dollars to Bank Corp. South. So
that's like if he did it today, five hundred and
fifty million dollars. So the company EBSCO is still a
privately held, family owned international conglomerate. That's the way to
do it, right, And so he makes all this money.
The family is supposed to be like one of the
richest families. They were on like in twenty fourteen Forbes
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put them at like sixty six and the richest failies.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
Way to go look at them.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
Right, So he's also this incredible philanthropist, gives a lot
of money to the arts and like his alma maters
a lot of science buildings.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
And see philanthropist not philanderer. He loves theist.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
Okay, very generous man. So his eldest son, James, he
took over as chairman CEO of EBSCOW in the seventies.
His namesake, Elton Junior, managed the real estate division until
he retired in the early aughts. So Elton Junior was
younger than James. So the elder Elton Senior and his
wife and all but one of his kids were very
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private and discreet, like they're in the society pages early on.
But that's the time they have amazing like review of
their wedding, breathless talk of like the parties before the wedding,
of who's gonna have host at this house? And they
were married like on Thanksgiving and she had this crazy
like navy dress. Yeah, it's it's amazing that all the newspaper.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
Areying people get married in Thanksgiving.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
They did.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
I don't know, but it was that like.
Speaker 4 (13:27):
A desirable like Thanksgiving wedding, you know what, we're having
the reception TK.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
So they're just society folks, right, they're very restrained. And
then there's Elton Junior. He likes to have fun, and
with a family net worth of about four billion dollars,
you can have a lot of fun.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
He's the one we're talking He's the.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
One we're talking about, but not the way you think so.
According to a twenty seventeen article in Mountain Brook Magazine,
his vehicle collection entailed quote a Mercedess three hundred SL
and the Mercedes three hundred D, a Maserati thirty five
hundred GT, a Jaguar x ke Ferrari three sixty five,
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a Bentley Continentals one, and a couple of flawless Triumph motorcycles,
all gleaming and in pristine condition. A motorhead's dream.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
Yeah, I mean especially those Mercedes.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
Those are gorgeous. So the Garden and Gun piece, right,
It was written by a longtime friend of his, Charles Gaines.
So Charles Gaines, he's a writer. Most notably he wrote
Pumping Iron, the non fiction book about competitive bodybuilding. Yeah,
the book, right, made it into a movie with Arnold Schwarzenegger,
and that Charles wrote the movie and narrated it. He
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has like produced films TVs, written for all the best magazines,
including Playboy.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
Like yeah, bodybuild published well, no.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
No, he published twenty five books. He's like novels and such. Oh,
he's a serious outdoorsman, big fly fishing. Fishing is a
huge thing for him. Conservation. Interestingly enough, he also invented paintball.
Wait what Yeah, the author of the article invented paintment
in nineteen eighty.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
You're just going to drop, I tell you.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
He and he had this buddy named Hayes Noel. They
had this debate about whether the talent for survival was
an ingrained instinct that could be adapted to any environment,
which is like what Hayes thought, or it was a
pattern of learned behavior specific to a particular environment. That's
what Charles believes. Interesting, So Hayes, he's a stockbroker in
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New York and like, you know, the big pomegranate. So
he thought that his ability to survive the the you know,
and thrive on Wall Street transferred to other challenging environments.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
Ah, the concrete jungle prepared him for the.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
War, right, And Charles is like, that's great for you.
I could make it on Wall Street, but I would
destroy you in a challenge of Deepwood's survival, and so
not long after the debate, Charles, at the time, he's
living on a sheep farm in New Hampshire. He sees
a catalog for all these products for livestock farmers and
in it was this co two powered pistol made by
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a company called nell Spot, and it would shoot a
single oil based di pellet and that was to mark
they used that he had been bred, but also like
foresters to mark trees. And so Charles has this idea.
He's like, I can get a pistol for me, I'll
get one for Hayes and we'll go hunt each other
in the woods.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
Let's go each other.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
And this was of course super fun, so not not
the most dangerous game, but it felt like it it.
Speaker 3 (16:43):
Will settle our nature versus nurture debate with guns.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
So the next weekend like they loved it. They were
just having I.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
Would loved this if one of my friends came to
with this idea, and so.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
They love it. They're like, we have to do this
again with more people. So the next weekend Chris invites
ten other dudes up. They played a more structured game
that they called the Survival Game, and the object was
for a player to collect four different color flags that
were located at stations. Yeah, and the first player to
come out of the woods with all four flags and
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no paint on this person was the winner. That's June
of nineteen eighty one. So three of the players there
were writers for national magazines or his friends, so they
all wrote pieces about it, and pretty soon people were
writing to Chris being like, I want in on this,
I want to come play. So he and some friends
they created a company called the National Survival Game. They
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standardized the paintball rules both for like individuals and like
team versions, and they were the first company to sell
paintball equipment specifically for that purpose. I tell you all
of this because I want you to know what kind
of characters we're dealing with. I'm trying to get a
feel amazing characters. So Charles describes his pal Elton Junior
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quote he has always had a Dionysian lean toward party,
fast cars, good food, good wines, and pretty ladies. He
has an endearing grin, a deep South drawl, not a
shred of pretense or affectation, and a sweet soul.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
So what a good way to go? Through the world
if he could be that, and.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
Your buddy invented paintball. Yeah, so we know the players.
Let's get to the crime.
Speaker 3 (18:24):
Please.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
It's September twenty twenty. Elton's renting a mansion in Birmingham, Alabama.
This place is worth like three million dollars. The owner
is a friend of his, a dairy mogul named George Barber. Characters.
I'm telling you, George Barber's dad was one of the
ones who really promoted pasteurized milk in the US.
Speaker 3 (18:44):
We had to promote it.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
Yeah, George, though he was also like, he had this
huge dairy thing.
Speaker 3 (18:48):
George, this milk is good.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
But he was also a race car driver. And George
Barber is in the Guinness Book of World Records for
the world's largest collection of motorcycles. It has more than
fourteen of them characters. So that's who Elton's renting a
mansion from. And he'd been in there for like a
year or so. He moved he separated from his second wife,
Elton Junior, and he moved into the Dairy Guys mansions.
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Seventy five years old at the time. I need to
pause here. I've set the stage. When we come back.
I promise we'll get to the crime. Okay, so zaren.
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Sometime around two am on September eleventh, twenty twenty, someone
broke into Elton B. Stevens Juniors rented mansion and the
Purps Matthew Burke and Tabitha Hodges. You and Tabitha, So
they jimmy opened the door and they walk right in
like jackpot right. Elton has seventeen luxury cars to his name,
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but only two were in the driveway at the time.
Set in nineteen seventy one Mercedes two eighty sl like,
oh my god, a beautiful car, and a twenty twelve
Masarati sedan and then also a twenty twelve Toyota Tacoma
that it was.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
Like after getting around Alabama.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
So as they walk through the house, Matthew and Tabitha,
they see car keys on the kitchen counter, the Masarati,
so they grabbed the keys. They go outside, they fired up,
they drive away. They drove home the end. What's your
ridiculous takeaway? Now? Okay? So they drive the car home.
They lived forty five minutes away in a trailer in Remlap, Alabama.
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Rev Lap. That's a weird name, right, yeah, it's it's
name for the Palmer family who established the town. Because
Remlap is Palmer backwards. Yeah, rev Lap out Alabama, So.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
There already was a Palmer Alabama.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
Flip it over, flip in the script. So they drive,
they drive in the masarati back to the trailer to
show their two kids. Mind you, it's like it's like
three in the morning. They wake the kids up. They're
like eleven and thirteen. Like kids, kids, we got a maserati.
Don't ask how. They hang out at the house for
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a bit and then they load the kids into the
masarati and go.
Speaker 3 (21:28):
First three in the morning.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
By now it's seven. They went back to Elton's house.
Why not get a school Dad's truck is there. So
the family they walk into the house and after they
had you know, jimmied up, and they make themselves to home,
like they eat a bunch of stuff out of the fridge.
They're like little Goldilocks. They lounge around the house. They're
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playing on the he had Elton had this like vintage
Triumph motorcycle on display in the living room and they're
just climbing on it like posing whatever is it?
Speaker 3 (22:02):
Like a former Steve McQueen Triumph probably.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
I mean, so they go shopping in all the rooms
in the closet. They took a camera, like credit and
debit cards from his wallet, an Italian shotgun, then a derringer,
and then also a nineteen forty five long barrel Smith
and Wesson revolver like all these. He had all these
crazy watches, like expensive watches, and they're just shoving them
(22:27):
in their pockets. And they took a Yetti cooler. Yetti
coolers are expensive, dude, Yes they did. So they know
this is a rich dude's place, but they don't know
exactly how rich or like who he even is. So Matthew,
he finally makes his way up to the bedroom he
left Tabitha and the kids downstairs, and he creeps. Now, Elton,
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like so many other people in the world, has sleep apnea,
and I don't know if he had one of those
sea pat machines. Oh yeah, but he he was hooked
up to something called snore Lab. And so eight am,
September eleventh, Matthew woke Elton up. So we're at eight
in the morning. Let me do a dramatic reading of
their conversation. I love these Matthew, sir, Hello, Why are
(23:14):
you in my house?
Speaker 5 (23:15):
Sir?
Speaker 2 (23:16):
This is Elton. What what are you doing here? You
scared me? What are you doing here? Sir? What are
you doing here? Excuse me? What do you mean? Are
you supposed to be here? Yes? I live here. I
rent this house. No, sir, I just bought this house
off the market. I bought this house and everything in
(23:38):
it two months ago. No, you didn't. So Matthew seems
to be trying to get Elton super disoriented. He comes
in hot. He's like, I just bought this house. Get out?
Who are you boo? Right? He goes harder. At this point,
Matthew asks Elton to see some credentials.
Speaker 3 (23:56):
Good, good, yes, no, no, no, Matthew, I flipped it.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
Wish Elton?
Speaker 3 (24:01):
Are you so expecting Elton.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
To He's like, look, man, I brought my family here
to show them our new house. So Elton's confused, as
any of us would be. Let me continue with my
dramatic interpretations. So do you want me to leave? I
would like to get in my current leave please? No,
we got to figure out why the hell I'm out
of whole house here? Is this a robbery? Absolutely not, sir,
(24:24):
a robbery? Do I look like a robber.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
Yes, I do.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
No, you don't look like a robber. I don't didn't
mean that. Can we go into the living room? Please?
Are you going to be copathetic in front of my family?
We're gonna act real correct in front of my fiance
and her kids. Right. If you make them feel out
of place or something like that, I will hurt you.
Do what because I have no problem with you meeting
my family as long as you act correct. But there's
(24:51):
a reason I'm here.
Speaker 8 (24:52):
What.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
Yeah, So this is when Matthew takes Elton's phone, puts
it in his pocket, and here's the thing that's snore lab.
It's an app on Elton's phone and it monitors his
snoring and such by recording him. Oh of course it
means that the whole exchange was recorded, and Matthew has
no idea. In fact, it just keeps recording, shoves the
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phone in his pocket. So they leave the bedroom, go
down to the living room. Matthew he keeps going hard
on the whole like I bought this house story.
Speaker 3 (25:22):
What a weird angle, right?
Speaker 2 (25:24):
Elton was like, he asks to use the bathroom and
they're like, yeah, okay, you go ahead, And so while
in there, he does exactly what I would do in
that situation. He took TUSANIX. He comes out of the
bathroom and Matthews.
Speaker 4 (25:40):
Like it, goes to his spare phone, which he is
neatly hidden in the bathroom.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
He did what you're supposed to do, Tusanic and Matthew's like,
you know what, I'm ready to make a deal. He
asks Elton if he has any other properties, and Elton's like, yeah,
I have this new house being built in Birmingham, and
I also have a five hundred acre farm.
Speaker 3 (25:59):
Dude, like I got property. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
And so Matthew and Tabitha are like, oh, the five
hundred acre farm, that's more our speed. I'll take it
and hold on. He tells him. He's like a deed
transfer takes a long time. It takes paperwork and lawyers
and such. And they're like, oh, okay, you just give
us the keys. So, like, having picked through all the
like bachelor's offerings in the fridge and the pantry, the
kids declare themselves hungry. They're like, we're starving.
Speaker 3 (26:25):
Sure.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
Elton offers the family some leftover chicken salad. This is
from Garden and Gun quote. Hell yeah, I want some
chicken salad, Matthew says, and he and Elton go into
the kitchen, digging into the chicken salad. Matthew says, you
got any crackers? Where are your crackers at? Don't forget
this is we have a transcript. So this is according
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to Alabama dot Com quote. At one point Record State
Burke asked Stevens, how much life do you think you
have left?
Speaker 3 (26:53):
Dear go.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
Stevens replied ten years. Burke then said, I think you
got twenty more. I think you do good, healthy years,
being successful and whatever it is you may choose to
do after this, as long as you do it right.
Speaker 3 (27:07):
What this guy's is everywhere, by far.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
The weirdest home invasion robbery ever. So according to Garden
and Gun quote, you might well be wondering at this
point what did these people think they were doing? And
the only possible answer is, who knows. Whatever it was,
it might have been influenced by one of the several
illegal substances in which they were known to indulge. Ah,
(27:32):
So like duh, these got there, who knows what they're on?
Speaker 4 (27:35):
So they're like they got like meth brain going and
they're sitting there thinking like, this is our big payday.
What we do do is just elder abuse this guy
and just signing some paperwork and getting his keys to
a five hundred acre ranch.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
Whatever. There's just no logic. So Elton he's like, you know, kids,
you want to watch this. He's like, you know what,
I'll right you check.
Speaker 3 (27:55):
Bring your kids to work for these guys.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
Let me tee. I want on the job training for
the kids. He's like, I'll write you a check ten
thousand dollars. Matthew is insulted. That's so low. How dare
you is yeah, So then they're like, you know what,
let's go somewhere else. Time to change locations. So, according
to Garden and Gun quote, when they leave the house,
he and Matthew in Matthew's black Chevrolet Tahoe, Tabitha and
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the kids following them in Elton's pickup. Elton is understandably
sick with fear and determined to try and make no
mistakes in attempting to stay on the good side of
his as of now kidnappers. But for one large mistake,
he succeeds zaren Yes, close your eyes.
Speaker 3 (28:38):
Oh you sucks past me.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
I want you to picture it. You work at the
Full Moon Barbecue on Sixth Avenue South in Birmingham, Alabama.
The tagline for the restaurant is best little pork house
in Alabama. The place is a drive thru that gets
good business. You are, after all, right off Highway to
eighty the Elton be Stevens Expressway. Your shift start soon
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and you're walking to work. You're just past the McDonald's
when you see a big Chevy Tahoe drive by slowly.
An older man begins to open the front passenger door
and lean out, but the driver grabs him back quickly
pop in some of the buttons on his shirt. The
driver yells something at the man, but you can't hear. It.
Looks like an adult son upset with his father. The
older man looks scared. You think about your grandpa and
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how confused he got at the end of his life.
He tried to do stuff like jump out of a
moving car. The Chevy revs off, and you continue walking
to work, contemplating the weird cyclical nature of life. We
are babies who need help, then we help babies, then
we become babies once again. Oh if we're lucky, and
our fears about mortality and finality make us lash out
(29:45):
at those we most want to protect a life. You
reach the restaurant, a small cinder block building, wash your hands,
put on your apron, and your headset. Make your way
to the drive through window. You greet coworkers as the
place gets ready for another busy day m barbing cars
are already lining up. You confirm an order. So that's
the love me tenders with the side of chow chow,
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one open faced smoke pork on texas toast, an order,
a full moon riblets and deviled eggs, oh, and three
large sweet teas. Please pull around. A car pulls up
to order one chili cheese dog, large barbecue pork sandwich,
cried ochra and an orange soda, one Greek salad with
pulled chicken, and an unsweet tea. You got it. You
tell him, please pull around. You ring up the order
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with the three sweet teas, and the next car pulls up,
the black Chevy Tahoe from earlier thirty three twenty five.
You tell him. The old man reaches out to pay
with a card before the driver can react. How sweet
of him you think he looks tired. This food will
perk him up. Your betting you look at the car,
dos the machine process? Is it? ELK Bryson Stevens Junior.
(30:50):
H The name sounds familiar. You hand them back of
the car and the food and they drive away. Then
it hits you, that's the name of the highway just
a couple blocks over. Wow, you serve someone famous today
from full Moon Barbecue. They headed to the trailer in
red to.
Speaker 3 (31:08):
He was expecting him to mouse something.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
Like no, he okay, they legitimately, first of all, can
we talk about the beauty of drive through barbecue? And
why don't we have that here?
Speaker 3 (31:18):
I in a dignified I don't know their menu.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
I looked over that those were all menu.
Speaker 3 (31:22):
I was practically ordering.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
In street viewed the location anyway. So but no, he
he was apparently, oh no, no, let me get this
and like bought lunch. They were so hungry. So they
go back to the trailer and rem lap. There are negotiations, conversations.
Finally Elton's like, all right, let me let me break
it down to you. I have five hundred thousand dollars
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in cash and I can wire it to you today.
And Matthew and Tabitha are like, that's incredible. We'll take
half of that.
Speaker 5 (31:59):
It's like, why wouldn't you just take the whole thing.
They're not greedy, and you know what, he did pick
up lunch very very Let's let's stop for a minute
and listen to some ads commerce.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
We love it. When we come back, we're going to
stop in at that little trailer and rem lap and
see how the bargaining goes.
Speaker 3 (32:21):
I'll split these ads with you.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
Excellent, all right, zaren. So there we are in the
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trailer and rem lap deal. Elton's like, I'll give you
half a million dollars. They're like, cut that in half,
and so they're shaking him down for two hundred and
fifty thousand dollars. He just wants to to be over
with me. It is so surreal and bizarre. So he
agrees to call his banker. He's like, okay, fine, you
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drive a hard bargain. I'll give you half of what
I've offered. And his plan is to say that he's
buying some farm property from Tabitha and he needs an
immediate wire transfer. So this is according to Garden and
Gun quote. She gives him her account and routing numbers
and Elton makes the call on speakerphone as directed. The
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banker tells him he'll send the request to the wiring
department and that someone will call Elton back in an
hour or so, maybe more. Once the transfer is completed.
He asked what number he should call. Elton looks at Tabitha,
who motions to her phone on this number I'm calling
you from, he tells the banker. Here they are now,
the three of them, with a deal more or less
straight between them for the first time all day, except
(33:49):
for one important detail. You're going to take me home
as soon as the money's in the account, right, Elton asks,
and Matthew says, yes, they'll take him home. Then shake
on it, Elton says, And they do. And so then
they wait. Yeah, they wait, and then and they wait,
and you know, it takes a while apparently for these transform, right,
(34:11):
So they didn't just sit in silence. Again from this
Beautiful Garden and Gun article quote, the world as experienced
by a particular animal, its distinctive perceived universe is called
by ethologists that animal's umvelt. It is hard to imagine
two men with less similar umveldts than Matthew amos Burke
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and Elton B. Stevens Junior. But I believe that while
on the trailer deck, Elton sensed on some pressing primordial
level that the more he could bond his umveldt to Matthews,
the better his chances of survival. So over the next
two hours, Elton brilliantly directs the conversation into the lingua
franca of the Deep South, cars, hunting, and fishing. The
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three of them sit there talking those subjects from a stool,
a wheelchair, and a truck tire as comfortably as three
hog farmers at the end of a long work day. Occasionally,
the undeniable horror of this situation surfaces in Elton, and
once it takes voice. You're not gonna sex traffic me,
are you No, You're too old and ugly. Matthew reassures him. Ah, baby,
(35:22):
Tabitha says he's not that bad.
Speaker 4 (35:25):
Wow, I mean, Tabitha, take a scoop. It's also I
thought it was interesting they left out one thing. I
thought that they would have been a topic of conversation.
They nailed it. I mean, yeah, every single one is correct,
but Alabama football right in Alabama. I mean, you can
always talk Alabama football, Timber.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
Yeah, exactly interesting that they yeah, but.
Speaker 3 (35:46):
Otherwise spot on than I do.
Speaker 4 (35:48):
Like, if nervous you don't want to talk to somebody,
bring up any one of those and you can go
for a while.
Speaker 2 (35:53):
So Elton. One other thing they talked about. Elton wants
to know, like, what are you going to do with
this money?
Speaker 3 (35:57):
You're so desperate I would be curious to.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
Tabitha shows him a picture of a house. It's a white,
two story house, five bedrooms. It's not far from where
they're sitting.
Speaker 3 (36:06):
We want to burn it down?
Speaker 2 (36:07):
Well, no, there's lots of land. Tabitha is like, this
is our dream house. And remember Elton, he was in
real estate. He was like the director, Oh yeah, he asks, okay,
so what are the owners asking for it? That's asking
price in the business, two hundred and fifty thousand dollars.
She tells him, well, that's all wean, that's why, that's
all we need. We'll be able to buy it outright. No, No,
(36:32):
he's like, don't pay the asking and certainly certainly don't
pay cash. He's like, look, go and offer one hundred
and ninety and they'll take it, maybe a little more,
but then you put twenty percent down and then get
a mortgage, like this is ridiculous, don't pay all. So
he picks up Tabitha's phone and like taps away on
the calculator mortgage, home insurance, property tax. He's like, you're
(36:55):
looking at like seven hundred a month. This come on
and so they're they're stunned by his and they're so
thankful for the advice. Matthew tells Elton, like, you know
the reason why they love that house. They want to
get married in that house. And you know what he says,
We want you to come to the wedding. And here's
Tabitha's line.
Speaker 3 (37:15):
Would you walk Tabitha down?
Speaker 2 (37:17):
This is well no, this is what Tabitha says. Yeah,
we want you to be a pall bearer, Like I
would have just lost my mind. I want her to
be my Paul bearer. So the money, I know, that's important.
Speaker 3 (37:36):
Ceremonial events them.
Speaker 2 (37:39):
The wedding, Paul Barrel.
Speaker 3 (37:42):
Wedding there is.
Speaker 4 (37:44):
Well, when grandma passed, we just saved money, and then
Uncle Kleeve got married the same day.
Speaker 2 (37:49):
Why waste money on the flowers? So the money eventually
comes through and the couple's good on their word. They
didn't sex traffic him. They took him home, but they
did tell him that they were going to kill him
if he went to the cops. And also they needed
to borrow his truck and he's like, you know what,
keep it. He's like, just keep it, and they're, oh, okay,
(38:12):
if you insist. But they they did have him sign
a bill of sale for ten dollars, like to keep
things on the up and up.
Speaker 3 (38:20):
Of course, Yeah, get the story.
Speaker 2 (38:22):
Then Matthew gives out in the hug and hands him
back his phone. And by this time it's four in
the afternoon, so I don't think the sleep app had
been recording the whole time, but I think it got
at least the first four hours of the day. And
as soon as they're out of the driveway, Elton calls
his siblings and then he called as a strange wife.
(38:42):
He told each of them not to call the cops,
but he's like, you're never going to believe what happened.
The sister's like, good to his you know her word, Yeah,
I won't call him, sort of though. She called a
former FBI agent that she knew, and the former agent
called both the cops and the FBI. So the next
day September twelfth, twenty twenty, Birmingham police show up in Remlap.
(39:03):
They found the address by looking at the location history
on his phone. The couple gets arrested. The trailers search.
The cops they immediately separated the couple when they got there,
and so they go they take him to be interviewed.
So Tabitha they bring her in. She tells detectives that
she used to have a job as a part time
(39:24):
made for Elton. That's why she went there just like
every now and then, and one time he violently sexually
assaulted her. Oh god, yeah, And she said that she
and Matthew went to the house to get revenge, but
then they chickened out when they got there, and Matthew
just told Elton that they were going to go to
the cops, and like Elton's like, no, no, don't go
to the cops. Here have all this stuff, plus this
(39:47):
truck and a quarter of a million dollars, just whatever
you do, don't go to the cops. Wow, said the cops.
That's a really intense story. Amazing. So they go to
the next room. Matthew, can you tell us what happened?
Of course, he said that he and Tabitha went to
see Elton, who happened to be her former sugar daddy,
(40:08):
and they're so excited to tell him that they're getting married.
They like want to share their good news. And Elton
was so excited. He's like, here's two hundred and fifty
thousand dollars. It's an early wedding present. And because you know,
it's like, oh, he knew about the dream house and
theirlone application had been denied, and he felt bad for them,
but also happy.
Speaker 3 (40:27):
I'm sure we wanted his former side piece to be happy.
Speaker 2 (40:29):
You know, he just wants the best for her. And wow,
said the cops. That's a really intense story.
Speaker 3 (40:34):
Now did the cops get to talk to the kids.
Speaker 2 (40:37):
I don't know. I think they went on to the cps.
So Matthew's like, yeah, that's super intense. And the cops
are like, hey, you want to hear something cool, And then,
in what was probably the greatest most boss move of
his professional life, one of the cops hit play on
the snore lab recording.
Speaker 3 (40:54):
Oh man, yikes, so like Columbo would have lost.
Speaker 2 (40:57):
A whole day recorded, and they play it for Matthew like, oh, really,
you want to stick to that story.
Speaker 3 (41:04):
Do you want to amend it?
Speaker 4 (41:04):
Maybe just slow here here, listen to this and then
think about it.
Speaker 2 (41:08):
So Matthew is now facing both state and federal charges.
I mean, then the thing is we do need to
make clear they had never met before Matthew Tabitha. Yeah, no,
he was never Yeah, so it was just random. So
November of twenty big house. Yeah, they just looked at
a big house with fancy cars in the driveway, and
we're all right, let's go.
Speaker 3 (41:27):
Let's go and start that guy.
Speaker 2 (41:29):
They're just lucky that like he wasn't trigger happy exactly.
Speaker 3 (41:32):
In Alabama going into a big rolling the dice.
Speaker 2 (41:37):
So next year, November of twenty twenty one, his Matthew's
public defender gets him a binding plea bargain in federal court.
They're like, okay, he'll do seventeen years in federal prison
in exchange for dropping the state charges. And like having
taught in both a federal prison and a state.
Speaker 3 (41:53):
Prison, Oh, you definitely want to go to just down
the road.
Speaker 2 (41:56):
From each other. I would one take the federal Yes,
every time, nicer facilities, more services.
Speaker 3 (42:03):
I've been in both federal and it may.
Speaker 2 (42:05):
Not be true in all states. But I'm guessing that
it's true with Gamma. Yeah. So after sentencing, they transferred
Matthew back to Birmingham Jail with a federal detainer notice
and basically Matthew had to cool his heels until the
Feds could move them to an FCI. That's December twenty
twenty one. But like a lot of paperwork, the detainer
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notice got lost. This is according to Alabama dot Com quote.
According to records, Burke had charges with the state which
were dismissed after a court appearance on Friday. At the
time of transfer from a neighboring agency, there was no
documentation left to notify jail personnel that Burke had been
sentenced by another court and was not to be released.
(42:49):
He was released because they don't know to keep him.
They're just like, what's doing no state charges? Okay bye?
So this is according to Garden and Gun quote at
large again, Matthew dyed his hair a bizarre shade of
blonde and quickly learned that very few of his friends
and relatives had much inclination to harbor him, So he
bounced around from motel to motel in various suburbs of Birmingham.
(43:13):
The man who eventually found him was a bald and
bearded born again private investigator named Odie Odin, who had
taken an interest in the case from the beginning. No
one had hired Odin to find the fugitive amateur, he
decided to do so anyway. Man one afternoon, seven days
after Matthew's release, Odin got a call from one of
(43:36):
his many sources around town, who gave him a phone number.
He traced the number to a Chevron station in Alabaster,
about thirty minutes south of Birmingham, so he took a
drive out there and sat in his car surveilling the station.
After a while, he saw Matthew walk out from behind
a dumpster where he was apparently living and go into
the station whose phone he had been using to try
(43:58):
and find anyone who might help him out. Odin called
the Alabaster police and within minutes twelve officers showed up
with shotguns, trapping Matthew inside the chevron. Odie Odin, I
loved a freelance nomad private eye, just doing it for
the people.
Speaker 3 (44:17):
He's like a fifties TV show, right.
Speaker 2 (44:19):
It's amazing. I have to track him and see if
there's anything else. Yeah, So Matthew.
Speaker 3 (44:26):
He's court comes from the odin Facebook.
Speaker 2 (44:29):
Let's interview Odie odin Hell.
Speaker 3 (44:31):
Yeah, track him down.
Speaker 2 (44:34):
Matthew's doing seventeen years right now at a Federal Correctional
Institute in Manchester, Kentucky, kidnapping, bank fraud, attempting conspiracy to
commit the offense of bank fraud. Tabitha got all the
same charges. She's doing twelve years at a women's FCI
Federal Correctional Institute in Aliceville, Alabama. In her original plea,
(44:55):
she said the whole thing was her idea and that
Matthew had nothing to do with it, but.
Speaker 3 (45:00):
She wanted him to take care of the kids.
Speaker 2 (45:02):
She wanted him to be like no, no, no, it
was and he didn't.
Speaker 3 (45:05):
A double jeopardy situation? Is that her? What is their
see this like an n c I s.
Speaker 2 (45:11):
That you were always like, wait, is that their plan?
So she took it back. She's like, actually, I take
it back, it was his. Actually all Matthews, saren, what's
your ridiculous takeaway?
Speaker 4 (45:22):
Like it's it's it's very rare that you see somebody
who's just a living, walking, breathing Cohen Brothers movie.
Speaker 3 (45:30):
Yes, but these two really just.
Speaker 4 (45:34):
I would be curious to ask Ethan and Joel Cohen
like to read them this story ago. Was that like
a favorite dream for you? Was that kind of weird,
like an out of body experience.
Speaker 3 (45:42):
You're like, my imagination's being read back to me because
that was mine? What about you?
Speaker 2 (45:47):
I had thank you for asking. For the first time,
I had to stop myself from doing deep Odie odin
research because the problem is you see these names, like,
you know, the paintball inventor who wrote the article, don't
you hit that? You're like, oh, forget it, I gotta go.
And then the dairy, you know, mogul who owns the mansion.
It's just too much. And the characters are so good.
(46:09):
I'm so relieved that Elton is safe home.
Speaker 3 (46:14):
I'm really knowing that out of all of them, nobody
really got hurt.
Speaker 2 (46:18):
But also it's like, you, you know, he comes from money,
but I was really fascinated by the story of Ebsco.
That's this farmer's kid and he I think he married
into society. I think that that Elton c Elton Junior's
mom seemed to be kind of like I'm sure, yeah, yeah,
So it was like that's why they got all this
coverage in the paper. But his guessing, aggressive sales, you know,
(46:42):
get them so far. Then you have this whole family dynasty.
But Elton Junior like the wild child. He never fought,
He never, you know, just.
Speaker 4 (46:52):
Like it was a charming fellow trying to get along,
going down, going along the highway named after his dad,
being abducted.
Speaker 2 (46:59):
Yeah, exactly, tries to jump out of the car at
the highway named after his dad's like the whole thing.
So I thought it was a classic Southern ridiculous crime
and I loved it. So, Dave, you know, what would
be a cherry on top is a talk bag.
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Ruby Slippers Update episode and I got really excited as
a native born and raised Minnesota when you mentioned we
Let's Bakery. I was taken there all the time after
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there that's like so foundational sensory. I love that, and
I'm a big fan of Minnesota, so that's true. I
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Really?
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Yeah? How are you doing to?
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I'm pretty good. I got it on my checkered pants,
so I feel happy.
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I like this now. So each those aren't like clear checkerboard.
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No, no, I just used it was actually a tablecloth
for like a picnic.
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Yeah.
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I just had somebody sew them into pants.
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So and then you cut some of the hole.
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That's why.
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Yea, I opened up to air out because it was
like plastic really hot?
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Are you sweating a lot?
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And then but the grip is nice, okay, good.
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Aside from your pants. Do you know it's ridiculous?
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Oh my god?
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TV shows, right, Elizabeth, I love you see something You're
like that thing's still on. There's this show called The
Curse of Oak Island.
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Yes, I see it on. It's something that I'm like,
there are so many shows on those kind of channels,
like The Amazing. Then and then you watch like five
minutes of an episode.
Speaker 4 (01:03):
Yeah, and there's like five minutes contents stretched out over
twenty two minutes.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Yeah. Yeah, so that okay, I always see it on
the channel.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
Guys, they still haven't found the gold.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
No.
Speaker 4 (01:12):
Yeah, it's they're on this island trying to find gold
and they've been looking and I got big news. They're
very optimistic that this they're really getting close.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
They've got new clues. Elizabeth on season twelve that they're
gone at this time.
Speaker 6 (01:28):
Can't.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
I'm like, how do you get people back past season
eight nine? A Season twelve?
Speaker 2 (01:33):
Is that the one where they like they have like
slew machines.
Speaker 4 (01:37):
You know, you know the Curse of Oak Islands to
the island, and they think that there's like all this
gold buried on there and some people tried digging this
money pit and then they got flooded with seawater and
they've been trying to ever since then, trying to find ways,
but they're worried every time that they were going to
add more seawater and they'll never get to the buried
gold treasure.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
They're always going over like all these like topographical man.
Speaker 4 (01:55):
And there's like a where like I think it's like
seven or eight people have to die before the gold
old is discovered, and I think six people have died
so far, and there's two brothers.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
Oh, so they would fit the bill really legend. So
maybe season thirteen, We're gonna get.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
A real surprise decail.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
But I mean, I couldn't believe it. Season twelve, what
is this Gray's and Natomy over here? Sbu So yeah,
there you go, ridiculous.
Speaker 7 (02:18):
Huh wow, that is ridiculous twelve dumbfounded? Uh do you
want to know what else is ridiculous? Stretching those things
out being saved by snoring?
Speaker 3 (02:30):
Ooh what.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
This is ridiculous? Crime A podcast about absurd and outrageous capers,
heists and cons. It's all we ninety nine percent murder
free and one hundred percent ridiculous. Damn right, I am.
I'm also really excited to tell you about this crime.
Truly ridiculous, like floating over your ages ridiculous. We have
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bumbling criminals, violently rich victim.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
And the main reporting is by the magazine Garden and Gun.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
Yes, like I'm over here doing the Vince McMahon meme.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
The name sounds so unhinged, Garden and Gun.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
It does sound like a joke.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
But if you're if you're from or have lived in
the South, you know it's an amazing yeah, incredible long
form journalism essays by some of the greatest living Southern writers.
Some of the profiles they do have like really over
the top pros, but like it works. It's very iced
(03:54):
tea on the veranda with well read folks who keep
their politics to themselves and love a hattie story about
their own family history that somehow also ties in with
a local small town scandal.
Speaker 4 (04:06):
Totally maybe also have like a Fuckner quote tucked away
they pull out from time to.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Time, like elevated Southern cuisine and monograms silverware going back
in the like generations, but also like you bring your
own koozy for beers taken out of a cooler in
the back of a Ford expedition at like the fourth
of July. Even love or super Brooks Brothers broadcloth shirts
and like Lily Pulitzer sleeveless shifts. But also you thought
(04:31):
about this well worn flip flops from a gas station
by the beach.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
Oh yeah, I can feel the sunburns.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
Garden and gun. So, like I said, most of the
available reporting on the crime I'm going to tell you
about comes from a really great garden and gun piece. Nice,
and there's also some stuff from like local Birmingham, Alabama
news stuff, But no matter the source, it's beautifully ridiculous.
And to take a page from your book of tracing
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everything in the West back to Memmo the second, the
two time sultan of the Ottoman Empire in the fourteen hundreds.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
I'm telling you like about fourteen fifty three.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
Well, this crime took place in twenty twenty. I want
to take you back to nineteen forty four.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
Okay, please do because.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
That's when Elton Bryson Stephens senior.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
Elton Bryson Stephens Senior.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Yeah, son of a farmer in Clio, Alabama, now c
l Io. Yeah, and I think that's Clio, not Cleo. Yeah, yeah,
I know a Clio. Yeah, that's when he started his
own business, nineteen forty four. So he was always a
hard worker, this guy. As a boy, he'd get up
early milk the family cows bottle and sell the milk
(05:40):
before school. He sold a lot of stuff actually, like
he sold newspapers, suits, sandwiches, cloverine salve. What it's basically
like vasiline that has rectified turpentine oil in it, white
wax and perfume and it's for like.
Speaker 5 (05:56):
Chapskin kind of different light jelly.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
Oh, we've got an industrial oil that you put on your.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
All this crazy stuff in it, Cloverine Stebs. He went
around selling it as a little kid.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
Love the forties.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
In nineteen twenty eight, he took his savings, which was
one hundred and twenty five dollars. It's about twenty three
hundred dollars today.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
He's in nineteen twenty eighteen.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
Twenty eight, so forty four he starts his own business.
But this is always a kid.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
Okay. The twenties even makes more sense.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
Yeah, he has just gotten out of high school. He
has one hundred and twenty five bucks, so that's like
twenty three hundred if we were walking around today. And
he goes off to college at Birmingham Southern College, Okay,
and that's a good chunk of change. But it wasn't
enough to cover all of his costs, No, not at all.
So he got a full time job as a salesman
in a local dry goods store. Okay, And he spent
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his summers working for Butterick selling subscriptions to their dress
pattern Makers magazine.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
Yes, totally patterns, Yeah, totally, still have some.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Right do you have all in your dress Maks?
Speaker 3 (06:54):
If it's old, Elizabeth, I have some of it.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
So when he's in college. He and five buddies, like
they hitchhiked north to Michigan from Alabama to sell subscriptions
door to door all day long.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
Like reverse snowbird high exactly.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
Oh, they got to get out of the heat and humidity.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
No, yeah, good boy places to sell magazine.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
Subscription the first year, this is what he said, quote,
I saved five hundred dollars and that's like several thousand today.
That meant I didn't have to work as much during
the school year so I could study more. This is
just industrious. Graduates from college goes to law school at
University of Alabama. He married his longtime sweetheart, Alice Varian Robinson.
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They had four kids, including the one who made him
a senior, Elton B. Stevens Junior. Yes, so Elton Senior.
He's sold subscriptions all the way through law school.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
Here he stays with it. He's making good money.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
And he even hired other students to work for him.
And that included fellow Clio native George Wallace, future governor
of Alabama.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
Yeah, George Wallace selling magazine subscriptions.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
So he was the one driving the van. He's like, George,
you get out out the magazine.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
So he gets out of law school and he finds
out that a lawyer makes about seventy five dollars a
month and magazine sales are bringing in one hundred dollars
a week. Yeah, he's stuck with magazines. And he's like,
you know what, I'm just going to expand this empire.
Nineteen thirty seven, he bought into this franchise with Keystone
Reader's Service, and that's like this middleman between the subscribers
(08:32):
and the publishers, stuff like Saturday Evening Post, Ladies Home Journal.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
This kiny toy doesn't sound like he belongs on this show.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
Just he doesn't.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
Yeah, you know, it's amazing.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
So he and his crew, they're selling subscriptions all over
the Southeast. They hit up an army base and World
War two is just kicking off. Business is booming. The
bases are a gold mine. They just focus on those.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
I mean they need the reading material exactly.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
I touch boys occupy. So he ditches the franchise, starts
his own business, Ebsco, Elton, Bryce and Stevens Company, and
he sold subscriptions to you know, Hawk and subs all
over and he noticed that they're like he's at the
base selling all these subscriptions, and some of them are like, oh,
we'll just buy the magazines to come to like, you know,
(09:17):
this common area. But they didn't have magazine racks at
the bases. So he started another company, Vulcan Industries, to
manufacture and distribute the magazine racks. Then he expands into
publishing and binding. He gets a printing plant, going oh yeah.
So then he's like on these bases and he's you know,
(09:39):
selling all this stuff. He notices that as the war
efforts ramping up, they need recreation equipment for the men.
So you know, they're they're doing boot camp or whatever
and prepping to go, but they need some sort or
if they come back on leave, they need an escape.
And they also as they're built there, you know, the
draft kicks in and we're getting more and more people
(09:59):
in officers clubs are popping. Oh yes, and they need furnishing.
There's there's just you know, so he expands out into
the production and distribution of carpeting and drapery for the
officers clubs. Guys National Billiard America's oldest pool table table.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
Okay, and so then definitely some club.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
Right, So he's just like, he looks around, he sees
a hole. He's like, I'm a fill it. The growth
continues after the war. The company is still in business today.
It handles stuff quote from investments to library periodicals, plastic fishing,
lures to steal joists, indoor advertising to realty. That's according
to the Alabama Business Hall of Fame.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
If you buy it, we'll sell it.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Hepsco they do. They sell everywhere in the US. They
have operations all over the world. And so in nineteen
eighty one, when Elton Senior, he's seventy years old, he
gets into finance. And so he at this time he's retired,
he's turned the rate.
Speaker 4 (11:00):
He's just thinking about because he's at the retirement age.
He's like, I'm going to do some investments.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
I want to do some finance. So he well, he
thought like sometimes it's hard for these businesses to get loans.
Speaker 4 (11:09):
Yes, he knows the other side when you're a young man,
and yeah, a young person going into business.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
So he bought Citizens Bank. It leads Alabama. It had
twenty one million dollars in assets. He buys it for
two million in borrowed funds. It's Citizens Bank, Citizens yeah,
it leads Alabama throws in six hundred thousand dollars of
his own money because he had like browsed around small banks,
like how do I get my foot in the door.
Ten years later, the bank's assets had more than doubled
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because he's just this crazy sales, very industrious, too super aggressive.
He forwarded Alabama Bank Corp. And then he bought Fort
Deposit Bank and Fort Deposit Alabama for three point six million.
Then he started Highland Bank in Birmingham in nineteen eighty eight,
or why not he sold in the late nineties. He
sells Alabama Bank Corp. All it's holding worth about two
(11:57):
hundred and eighty million dollars to Bank Corp. South. So
that's like if he did it today, five hundred and
fifty million dollars. So the company EBSCO is still a
privately held, family owned international conglomerate. That's the way to
do it, right, And so he makes all this money.
The family is supposed to be like one of the
richest families. They were on like in twenty fourteen Forbes
(12:20):
put them at like sixty six and the richest failies.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
Way to go look at them.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
Right, So he's also this incredible philanthropist, gives a lot
of money to the arts and like his alma maters
a lot of science buildings.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
And see philanthropist not philanderer. He loves theist.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
Okay, very generous man. So his eldest son, James, he
took over as chairman CEO of EBSCOW in the seventies.
His namesake, Elton Junior, managed the real estate division until
he retired in the early aughts. So Elton Junior was
younger than James. So the elder Elton Senior and his
wife and all but one of his kids were very
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private and discreet, like they're in the society pages early on.
But that's the time they have amazing like review of
their wedding, breathless talk of like the parties before the wedding,
of who's gonna have host at this house? And they
were married like on Thanksgiving and she had this crazy
like navy dress. Yeah, it's it's amazing that all the newspaper.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
Areying people get married in Thanksgiving.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
They did.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
I don't know, but it was that like.
Speaker 4 (13:27):
A desirable like Thanksgiving wedding, you know what, we're having
the reception TK.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
So they're just society folks, right, they're very restrained. And
then there's Elton Junior. He likes to have fun, and
with a family net worth of about four billion dollars,
you can have a lot of fun.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
He's the one we're talking He's the.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
One we're talking about, but not the way you think so.
According to a twenty seventeen article in Mountain Brook Magazine,
his vehicle collection entailed quote a Mercedess three hundred SL
and the Mercedes three hundred D, a Maserati thirty five
hundred GT, a Jaguar x ke Ferrari three sixty five,
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a Bentley Continentals one, and a couple of flawless Triumph motorcycles,
all gleaming and in pristine condition. A motorhead's dream.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
Yeah, I mean especially those Mercedes.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
Those are gorgeous. So the Garden and Gun piece, right,
It was written by a longtime friend of his, Charles Gaines.
So Charles Gaines, he's a writer. Most notably he wrote
Pumping Iron, the non fiction book about competitive bodybuilding. Yeah,
the book, right, made it into a movie with Arnold Schwarzenegger,
and that Charles wrote the movie and narrated it. He
(14:45):
has like produced films TVs, written for all the best magazines,
including Playboy.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
Like yeah, bodybuild published well, no.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
No, he published twenty five books. He's like novels and such. Oh,
he's a serious outdoorsman, big fly fishing. Fishing is a
huge thing for him. Conservation. Interestingly enough, he also invented paintball.
Wait what Yeah, the author of the article invented paintment
in nineteen eighty.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
You're just going to drop, I tell you.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
He and he had this buddy named Hayes Noel. They
had this debate about whether the talent for survival was
an ingrained instinct that could be adapted to any environment,
which is like what Hayes thought, or it was a
pattern of learned behavior specific to a particular environment. That's
what Charles believes. Interesting, So Hayes, he's a stockbroker in
(15:40):
New York and like, you know, the big pomegranate. So
he thought that his ability to survive the the you know,
and thrive on Wall Street transferred to other challenging environments.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
Ah, the concrete jungle prepared him for the.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
War, right, And Charles is like, that's great for you.
I could make it on Wall Street, but I would
destroy you in a challenge of Deepwood's survival, and so
not long after the debate, Charles, at the time, he's
living on a sheep farm in New Hampshire. He sees
a catalog for all these products for livestock farmers and
in it was this co two powered pistol made by
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a company called nell Spot, and it would shoot a
single oil based di pellet and that was to mark
they used that he had been bred, but also like
foresters to mark trees. And so Charles has this idea.
He's like, I can get a pistol for me, I'll
get one for Hayes and we'll go hunt each other
in the woods.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
Let's go each other.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
And this was of course super fun, so not not
the most dangerous game, but it felt like it it.
Speaker 3 (16:43):
Will settle our nature versus nurture debate with guns.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
So the next weekend like they loved it. They were
just having I.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
Would loved this if one of my friends came to
with this idea, and so.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
They love it. They're like, we have to do this
again with more people. So the next weekend Chris invites
ten other dudes up. They played a more structured game
that they called the Survival Game, and the object was
for a player to collect four different color flags that
were located at stations. Yeah, and the first player to
come out of the woods with all four flags and
(17:13):
no paint on this person was the winner. That's June
of nineteen eighty one. So three of the players there
were writers for national magazines or his friends, so they
all wrote pieces about it, and pretty soon people were
writing to Chris being like, I want in on this,
I want to come play. So he and some friends
they created a company called the National Survival Game. They
(17:35):
standardized the paintball rules both for like individuals and like
team versions, and they were the first company to sell
paintball equipment specifically for that purpose. I tell you all
of this because I want you to know what kind
of characters we're dealing with. I'm trying to get a
feel amazing characters. So Charles describes his pal Elton Junior
(17:56):
quote he has always had a Dionysian lean toward party,
fast cars, good food, good wines, and pretty ladies. He
has an endearing grin, a deep South drawl, not a
shred of pretense or affectation, and a sweet soul.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
So what a good way to go? Through the world
if he could be that, and.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
Your buddy invented paintball. Yeah, so we know the players.
Let's get to the crime.
Speaker 3 (18:24):
Please.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
It's September twenty twenty. Elton's renting a mansion in Birmingham, Alabama.
This place is worth like three million dollars. The owner
is a friend of his, a dairy mogul named George Barber. Characters.
I'm telling you, George Barber's dad was one of the
ones who really promoted pasteurized milk in the US.
Speaker 3 (18:44):
We had to promote it.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
Yeah, George, though he was also like, he had this
huge dairy thing.
Speaker 3 (18:48):
George, this milk is good.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
But he was also a race car driver. And George
Barber is in the Guinness Book of World Records for
the world's largest collection of motorcycles. It has more than
fourteen of them characters. So that's who Elton's renting a
mansion from. And he'd been in there for like a
year or so. He moved he separated from his second wife,
Elton Junior, and he moved into the Dairy Guys mansions.
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Seventy five years old at the time. I need to
pause here. I've set the stage. When we come back.
I promise we'll get to the crime. Okay, so zaren.
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Sometime around two am on September eleventh, twenty twenty, someone
broke into Elton B. Stevens Juniors rented mansion and the
Purps Matthew Burke and Tabitha Hodges. You and Tabitha, So
they jimmy opened the door and they walk right in
like jackpot right. Elton has seventeen luxury cars to his name,
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but only two were in the driveway at the time.
Set in nineteen seventy one Mercedes two eighty sl like,
oh my god, a beautiful car, and a twenty twelve
Masarati sedan and then also a twenty twelve Toyota Tacoma
that it was.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
Like after getting around Alabama.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
So as they walk through the house, Matthew and Tabitha,
they see car keys on the kitchen counter, the Masarati,
so they grabbed the keys. They go outside, they fired up,
they drive away. They drove home the end. What's your
ridiculous takeaway? Now? Okay? So they drive the car home.
They lived forty five minutes away in a trailer in Remlap, Alabama.
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Rev Lap. That's a weird name, right, yeah, it's it's
name for the Palmer family who established the town. Because
Remlap is Palmer backwards. Yeah, rev Lap out Alabama, So.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
There already was a Palmer Alabama.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
Flip it over, flip in the script. So they drive,
they drive in the masarati back to the trailer to
show their two kids. Mind you, it's like it's like
three in the morning. They wake the kids up. They're
like eleven and thirteen. Like kids, kids, we got a maserati.
Don't ask how. They hang out at the house for
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a bit and then they load the kids into the
masarati and go.
Speaker 3 (21:28):
First three in the morning.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
By now it's seven. They went back to Elton's house.
Why not get a school Dad's truck is there. So
the family they walk into the house and after they
had you know, jimmied up, and they make themselves to home,
like they eat a bunch of stuff out of the fridge.
They're like little Goldilocks. They lounge around the house. They're
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playing on the he had Elton had this like vintage
Triumph motorcycle on display in the living room and they're
just climbing on it like posing whatever is it?
Speaker 3 (22:02):
Like a former Steve McQueen Triumph probably.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
I mean, so they go shopping in all the rooms
in the closet. They took a camera, like credit and
debit cards from his wallet, an Italian shotgun, then a derringer,
and then also a nineteen forty five long barrel Smith
and Wesson revolver like all these. He had all these
crazy watches, like expensive watches, and they're just shoving them
(22:27):
in their pockets. And they took a Yetti cooler. Yetti
coolers are expensive, dude, Yes they did. So they know
this is a rich dude's place, but they don't know
exactly how rich or like who he even is. So Matthew,
he finally makes his way up to the bedroom he
left Tabitha and the kids downstairs, and he creeps. Now, Elton,
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like so many other people in the world, has sleep apnea,
and I don't know if he had one of those
sea pat machines. Oh yeah, but he he was hooked
up to something called snore Lab. And so eight am,
September eleventh, Matthew woke Elton up. So we're at eight
in the morning. Let me do a dramatic reading of
their conversation. I love these Matthew, sir, Hello, Why are
(23:14):
you in my house?
Speaker 5 (23:15):
Sir?
Speaker 2 (23:16):
This is Elton. What what are you doing here? You
scared me? What are you doing here? Sir? What are
you doing here? Excuse me? What do you mean? Are
you supposed to be here? Yes? I live here. I
rent this house. No, sir, I just bought this house
off the market. I bought this house and everything in
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it two months ago. No, you didn't. So Matthew seems
to be trying to get Elton super disoriented. He comes
in hot. He's like, I just bought this house. Get out?
Who are you boo? Right? He goes harder. At this point,
Matthew asks Elton to see some credentials.
Speaker 3 (23:56):
Good, good, yes, no, no, no, Matthew, I flipped it.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
Wish Elton?
Speaker 3 (24:01):
Are you so expecting Elton.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
To He's like, look, man, I brought my family here
to show them our new house. So Elton's confused, as
any of us would be. Let me continue with my
dramatic interpretations. So do you want me to leave? I
would like to get in my current leave please? No,
we got to figure out why the hell I'm out
of whole house here? Is this a robbery? Absolutely not, sir,
(24:24):
a robbery? Do I look like a robber.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
Yes, I do.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
No, you don't look like a robber. I don't didn't
mean that. Can we go into the living room? Please?
Are you going to be copathetic in front of my family?
We're gonna act real correct in front of my fiance
and her kids. Right. If you make them feel out
of place or something like that, I will hurt you.
Do what because I have no problem with you meeting
my family as long as you act correct. But there's
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a reason I'm here.
Speaker 8 (24:52):
What.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
Yeah, So this is when Matthew takes Elton's phone, puts
it in his pocket, and here's the thing that's snore lab.
It's an app on Elton's phone and it monitors his
snoring and such by recording him. Oh of course it
means that the whole exchange was recorded, and Matthew has
no idea. In fact, it just keeps recording, shoves the
(25:15):
phone in his pocket. So they leave the bedroom, go
down to the living room. Matthew he keeps going hard
on the whole like I bought this house story.
Speaker 3 (25:22):
What a weird angle, right?
Speaker 2 (25:24):
Elton was like, he asks to use the bathroom and
they're like, yeah, okay, you go ahead, And so while
in there, he does exactly what I would do in
that situation. He took TUSANIX. He comes out of the
bathroom and Matthews.
Speaker 4 (25:40):
Like it, goes to his spare phone, which he is
neatly hidden in the bathroom.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
He did what you're supposed to do, Tusanic and Matthew's like,
you know what, I'm ready to make a deal. He
asks Elton if he has any other properties, and Elton's like, yeah,
I have this new house being built in Birmingham, and
I also have a five hundred acre farm.
Speaker 3 (25:59):
Dude, like I got property. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
And so Matthew and Tabitha are like, oh, the five
hundred acre farm, that's more our speed. I'll take it
and hold on. He tells him. He's like a deed
transfer takes a long time. It takes paperwork and lawyers
and such. And they're like, oh, okay, you just give
us the keys. So, like, having picked through all the
like bachelor's offerings in the fridge and the pantry, the
kids declare themselves hungry. They're like, we're starving.
Speaker 3 (26:25):
Sure.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
Elton offers the family some leftover chicken salad. This is
from Garden and Gun quote. Hell yeah, I want some
chicken salad, Matthew says, and he and Elton go into
the kitchen, digging into the chicken salad. Matthew says, you
got any crackers? Where are your crackers at? Don't forget
this is we have a transcript. So this is according
(26:46):
to Alabama dot Com quote. At one point Record State
Burke asked Stevens, how much life do you think you
have left?
Speaker 3 (26:53):
Dear go.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
Stevens replied ten years. Burke then said, I think you
got twenty more. I think you do good, healthy years,
being successful and whatever it is you may choose to
do after this, as long as you do it right.
Speaker 3 (27:07):
What this guy's is everywhere, by far.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
The weirdest home invasion robbery ever. So according to Garden
and Gun quote, you might well be wondering at this
point what did these people think they were doing? And
the only possible answer is, who knows. Whatever it was,
it might have been influenced by one of the several
illegal substances in which they were known to indulge. Ah,
(27:32):
So like duh, these got there, who knows what they're on?
Speaker 4 (27:35):
So they're like they got like meth brain going and
they're sitting there thinking like, this is our big payday.
What we do do is just elder abuse this guy
and just signing some paperwork and getting his keys to
a five hundred acre ranch.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
Whatever. There's just no logic. So Elton he's like, you know, kids,
you want to watch this. He's like, you know what,
I'll right you check.
Speaker 3 (27:55):
Bring your kids to work for these guys.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
Let me tee. I want on the job training for
the kids. He's like, I'll write you a check ten
thousand dollars. Matthew is insulted. That's so low. How dare
you is yeah, So then they're like, you know what,
let's go somewhere else. Time to change locations. So, according
to Garden and Gun quote, when they leave the house,
he and Matthew in Matthew's black Chevrolet Tahoe, Tabitha and
(28:21):
the kids following them in Elton's pickup. Elton is understandably
sick with fear and determined to try and make no
mistakes in attempting to stay on the good side of
his as of now kidnappers. But for one large mistake,
he succeeds zaren Yes, close your eyes.
Speaker 3 (28:38):
Oh you sucks past me.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
I want you to picture it. You work at the
Full Moon Barbecue on Sixth Avenue South in Birmingham, Alabama.
The tagline for the restaurant is best little pork house
in Alabama. The place is a drive thru that gets
good business. You are, after all, right off Highway to
eighty the Elton be Stevens Expressway. Your shift start soon
(29:02):
and you're walking to work. You're just past the McDonald's
when you see a big Chevy Tahoe drive by slowly.
An older man begins to open the front passenger door
and lean out, but the driver grabs him back quickly
pop in some of the buttons on his shirt. The
driver yells something at the man, but you can't hear. It.
Looks like an adult son upset with his father. The
older man looks scared. You think about your grandpa and
(29:24):
how confused he got at the end of his life.
He tried to do stuff like jump out of a
moving car. The Chevy revs off, and you continue walking
to work, contemplating the weird cyclical nature of life. We
are babies who need help, then we help babies, then
we become babies once again. Oh if we're lucky, and
our fears about mortality and finality make us lash out
(29:45):
at those we most want to protect a life. You
reach the restaurant, a small cinder block building, wash your hands,
put on your apron, and your headset. Make your way
to the drive through window. You greet coworkers as the
place gets ready for another busy day m barbing cars
are already lining up. You confirm an order. So that's
the love me tenders with the side of chow chow,
(30:07):
one open faced smoke pork on texas toast, an order,
a full moon riblets and deviled eggs, oh, and three
large sweet teas. Please pull around. A car pulls up
to order one chili cheese dog, large barbecue pork sandwich,
cried ochra and an orange soda, one Greek salad with
pulled chicken, and an unsweet tea. You got it. You
tell him, please pull around. You ring up the order
(30:28):
with the three sweet teas, and the next car pulls up,
the black Chevy Tahoe from earlier thirty three twenty five.
You tell him. The old man reaches out to pay
with a card before the driver can react. How sweet
of him you think he looks tired. This food will
perk him up. Your betting you look at the car,
dos the machine process? Is it? ELK Bryson Stevens Junior.
(30:50):
H The name sounds familiar. You hand them back of
the car and the food and they drive away. Then
it hits you, that's the name of the highway just
a couple blocks over. Wow, you serve someone famous today
from full Moon Barbecue. They headed to the trailer in
red to.
Speaker 3 (31:08):
He was expecting him to mouse something.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
Like no, he okay, they legitimately, first of all, can
we talk about the beauty of drive through barbecue? And
why don't we have that here?
Speaker 3 (31:18):
I in a dignified I don't know their menu.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
I looked over that those were all menu.
Speaker 3 (31:22):
I was practically ordering.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
In street viewed the location anyway. So but no, he
he was apparently, oh no, no, let me get this
and like bought lunch. They were so hungry. So they
go back to the trailer and rem lap. There are negotiations, conversations.
Finally Elton's like, all right, let me let me break
it down to you. I have five hundred thousand dollars
(31:48):
in cash and I can wire it to you today.
And Matthew and Tabitha are like, that's incredible. We'll take
half of that.
Speaker 5 (31:59):
It's like, why wouldn't you just take the whole thing.
They're not greedy, and you know what, he did pick
up lunch very very Let's let's stop for a minute
and listen to some ads commerce.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
We love it. When we come back, we're going to
stop in at that little trailer and rem lap and
see how the bargaining goes.
Speaker 3 (32:21):
I'll split these ads with you.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
Excellent, all right, zaren. So there we are in the
(32:46):
trailer and rem lap deal. Elton's like, I'll give you
half a million dollars. They're like, cut that in half,
and so they're shaking him down for two hundred and
fifty thousand dollars. He just wants to to be over
with me. It is so surreal and bizarre. So he
agrees to call his banker. He's like, okay, fine, you
(33:07):
drive a hard bargain. I'll give you half of what
I've offered. And his plan is to say that he's
buying some farm property from Tabitha and he needs an
immediate wire transfer. So this is according to Garden and
Gun quote. She gives him her account and routing numbers
and Elton makes the call on speakerphone as directed. The
(33:27):
banker tells him he'll send the request to the wiring
department and that someone will call Elton back in an
hour or so, maybe more. Once the transfer is completed.
He asked what number he should call. Elton looks at Tabitha,
who motions to her phone on this number I'm calling
you from, he tells the banker. Here they are now,
the three of them, with a deal more or less
straight between them for the first time all day, except
(33:49):
for one important detail. You're going to take me home
as soon as the money's in the account, right, Elton asks,
and Matthew says, yes, they'll take him home. Then shake
on it, Elton says, And they do. And so then
they wait. Yeah, they wait, and then and they wait,
and you know, it takes a while apparently for these transform, right,
(34:11):
So they didn't just sit in silence. Again from this
Beautiful Garden and Gun article quote, the world as experienced
by a particular animal, its distinctive perceived universe is called
by ethologists that animal's umvelt. It is hard to imagine
two men with less similar umveldts than Matthew amos Burke
(34:33):
and Elton B. Stevens Junior. But I believe that while
on the trailer deck, Elton sensed on some pressing primordial
level that the more he could bond his umveldt to Matthews,
the better his chances of survival. So over the next
two hours, Elton brilliantly directs the conversation into the lingua
franca of the Deep South, cars, hunting, and fishing. The
(34:56):
three of them sit there talking those subjects from a stool,
a wheelchair, and a truck tire as comfortably as three
hog farmers at the end of a long work day. Occasionally,
the undeniable horror of this situation surfaces in Elton, and
once it takes voice. You're not gonna sex traffic me,
are you No, You're too old and ugly. Matthew reassures him. Ah, baby,
(35:22):
Tabitha says he's not that bad.
Speaker 4 (35:25):
Wow, I mean, Tabitha, take a scoop. It's also I
thought it was interesting they left out one thing. I
thought that they would have been a topic of conversation.
They nailed it. I mean, yeah, every single one is correct,
but Alabama football right in Alabama. I mean, you can
always talk Alabama football, Timber.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
Yeah, exactly interesting that they yeah, but.
Speaker 3 (35:46):
Otherwise spot on than I do.
Speaker 4 (35:48):
Like, if nervous you don't want to talk to somebody,
bring up any one of those and you can go
for a while.
Speaker 2 (35:53):
So Elton. One other thing they talked about. Elton wants
to know, like, what are you going to do with
this money?
Speaker 3 (35:57):
You're so desperate I would be curious to.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
Tabitha shows him a picture of a house. It's a white,
two story house, five bedrooms. It's not far from where
they're sitting.
Speaker 3 (36:06):
We want to burn it down?
Speaker 2 (36:07):
Well, no, there's lots of land. Tabitha is like, this
is our dream house. And remember Elton, he was in
real estate. He was like the director, Oh yeah, he asks, okay,
so what are the owners asking for it? That's asking
price in the business, two hundred and fifty thousand dollars.
She tells him, well, that's all wean, that's why, that's
all we need. We'll be able to buy it outright. No, No,
(36:32):
he's like, don't pay the asking and certainly certainly don't
pay cash. He's like, look, go and offer one hundred
and ninety and they'll take it, maybe a little more,
but then you put twenty percent down and then get
a mortgage, like this is ridiculous, don't pay all. So
he picks up Tabitha's phone and like taps away on
the calculator mortgage, home insurance, property tax. He's like, you're
(36:55):
looking at like seven hundred a month. This come on
and so they're they're stunned by his and they're so
thankful for the advice. Matthew tells Elton, like, you know
the reason why they love that house. They want to
get married in that house. And you know what he says,
We want you to come to the wedding. And here's
Tabitha's line.
Speaker 3 (37:15):
Would you walk Tabitha down?
Speaker 2 (37:17):
This is well no, this is what Tabitha says. Yeah,
we want you to be a pall bearer, Like I
would have just lost my mind. I want her to
be my Paul bearer. So the money, I know, that's important.
Speaker 3 (37:36):
Ceremonial events them.
Speaker 2 (37:39):
The wedding, Paul Barrel.
Speaker 3 (37:42):
Wedding there is.
Speaker 4 (37:44):
Well, when grandma passed, we just saved money, and then
Uncle Kleeve got married the same day.
Speaker 2 (37:49):
Why waste money on the flowers? So the money eventually
comes through and the couple's good on their word. They
didn't sex traffic him. They took him home, but they
did tell him that they were going to kill him
if he went to the cops. And also they needed
to borrow his truck and he's like, you know what,
keep it. He's like, just keep it, and they're, oh, okay,
(38:12):
if you insist. But they they did have him sign
a bill of sale for ten dollars, like to keep
things on the up and up.
Speaker 3 (38:20):
Of course, Yeah, get the story.
Speaker 2 (38:22):
Then Matthew gives out in the hug and hands him
back his phone. And by this time it's four in
the afternoon, so I don't think the sleep app had
been recording the whole time, but I think it got
at least the first four hours of the day. And
as soon as they're out of the driveway, Elton calls
his siblings and then he called as a strange wife.
(38:42):
He told each of them not to call the cops,
but he's like, you're never going to believe what happened.
The sister's like, good to his you know her word, Yeah,
I won't call him, sort of though. She called a
former FBI agent that she knew, and the former agent
called both the cops and the FBI. So the next
day September twelfth, twenty twenty, Birmingham police show up in Remlap.
(39:03):
They found the address by looking at the location history
on his phone. The couple gets arrested. The trailers search.
The cops they immediately separated the couple when they got there,
and so they go they take him to be interviewed.
So Tabitha they bring her in. She tells detectives that
she used to have a job as a part time
(39:24):
made for Elton. That's why she went there just like
every now and then, and one time he violently sexually
assaulted her. Oh god, yeah, And she said that she
and Matthew went to the house to get revenge, but
then they chickened out when they got there, and Matthew
just told Elton that they were going to go to
the cops, and like Elton's like, no, no, don't go
to the cops. Here have all this stuff, plus this
(39:47):
truck and a quarter of a million dollars, just whatever
you do, don't go to the cops. Wow, said the cops.
That's a really intense story. Amazing. So they go to
the next room. Matthew, can you tell us what happened?
Of course, he said that he and Tabitha went to
see Elton, who happened to be her former sugar daddy,
(40:08):
and they're so excited to tell him that they're getting married.
They like want to share their good news. And Elton
was so excited. He's like, here's two hundred and fifty
thousand dollars. It's an early wedding present. And because you know,
it's like, oh, he knew about the dream house and
theirlone application had been denied, and he felt bad for them,
but also happy.
Speaker 3 (40:27):
I'm sure we wanted his former side piece to be happy.
Speaker 2 (40:29):
You know, he just wants the best for her. And wow,
said the cops. That's a really intense story.
Speaker 3 (40:34):
Now did the cops get to talk to the kids.
Speaker 2 (40:37):
I don't know. I think they went on to the cps.
So Matthew's like, yeah, that's super intense. And the cops
are like, hey, you want to hear something cool, And then,
in what was probably the greatest most boss move of
his professional life, one of the cops hit play on
the snore lab recording.
Speaker 3 (40:54):
Oh man, yikes, so like Columbo would have lost.
Speaker 2 (40:57):
A whole day recorded, and they play it for Matthew like, oh, really,
you want to stick to that story.
Speaker 3 (41:04):
Do you want to amend it?
Speaker 4 (41:04):
Maybe just slow here here, listen to this and then
think about it.
Speaker 2 (41:08):
So Matthew is now facing both state and federal charges.
I mean, then the thing is we do need to
make clear they had never met before Matthew Tabitha. Yeah, no,
he was never Yeah, so it was just random. So
November of twenty big house. Yeah, they just looked at
a big house with fancy cars in the driveway, and
we're all right, let's go.
Speaker 3 (41:27):
Let's go and start that guy.
Speaker 2 (41:29):
They're just lucky that like he wasn't trigger happy exactly.
Speaker 3 (41:32):
In Alabama going into a big rolling the dice.
Speaker 2 (41:37):
So next year, November of twenty twenty one, his Matthew's
public defender gets him a binding plea bargain in federal court.
They're like, okay, he'll do seventeen years in federal prison
in exchange for dropping the state charges. And like having
taught in both a federal prison and a state.
Speaker 3 (41:53):
Prison, Oh, you definitely want to go to just down
the road.
Speaker 2 (41:56):
From each other. I would one take the federal Yes,
every time, nicer facilities, more services.
Speaker 3 (42:03):
I've been in both federal and it may.
Speaker 2 (42:05):
Not be true in all states. But I'm guessing that
it's true with Gamma. Yeah. So after sentencing, they transferred
Matthew back to Birmingham Jail with a federal detainer notice
and basically Matthew had to cool his heels until the
Feds could move them to an FCI. That's December twenty
twenty one. But like a lot of paperwork, the detainer
(42:28):
notice got lost. This is according to Alabama dot Com quote.
According to records, Burke had charges with the state which
were dismissed after a court appearance on Friday. At the
time of transfer from a neighboring agency, there was no
documentation left to notify jail personnel that Burke had been
sentenced by another court and was not to be released.
(42:49):
He was released because they don't know to keep him.
They're just like, what's doing no state charges? Okay bye?
So this is according to Garden and Gun quote at
large again, Matthew dyed his hair a bizarre shade of
blonde and quickly learned that very few of his friends
and relatives had much inclination to harbor him, So he
bounced around from motel to motel in various suburbs of Birmingham.
(43:13):
The man who eventually found him was a bald and
bearded born again private investigator named Odie Odin, who had
taken an interest in the case from the beginning. No
one had hired Odin to find the fugitive amateur, he
decided to do so anyway. Man one afternoon, seven days
after Matthew's release, Odin got a call from one of
(43:36):
his many sources around town, who gave him a phone number.
He traced the number to a Chevron station in Alabaster,
about thirty minutes south of Birmingham, so he took a
drive out there and sat in his car surveilling the station.
After a while, he saw Matthew walk out from behind
a dumpster where he was apparently living and go into
the station whose phone he had been using to try
(43:58):
and find anyone who might help him out. Odin called
the Alabaster police and within minutes twelve officers showed up
with shotguns, trapping Matthew inside the chevron. Odie Odin, I
loved a freelance nomad private eye, just doing it for
the people.
Speaker 3 (44:17):
He's like a fifties TV show, right.
Speaker 2 (44:19):
It's amazing. I have to track him and see if
there's anything else. Yeah, So Matthew.
Speaker 3 (44:26):
He's court comes from the odin Facebook.
Speaker 2 (44:29):
Let's interview Odie odin Hell.
Speaker 3 (44:31):
Yeah, track him down.
Speaker 2 (44:34):
Matthew's doing seventeen years right now at a Federal Correctional
Institute in Manchester, Kentucky, kidnapping, bank fraud, attempting conspiracy to
commit the offense of bank fraud. Tabitha got all the
same charges. She's doing twelve years at a women's FCI
Federal Correctional Institute in Aliceville, Alabama. In her original plea,
(44:55):
she said the whole thing was her idea and that
Matthew had nothing to do with it, but.
Speaker 3 (45:00):
She wanted him to take care of the kids.
Speaker 2 (45:02):
She wanted him to be like no, no, no, it
was and he didn't.
Speaker 3 (45:05):
A double jeopardy situation? Is that her? What is their
see this like an n c I s.
Speaker 2 (45:11):
That you were always like, wait, is that their plan?
So she took it back. She's like, actually, I take
it back, it was his. Actually all Matthews, saren, what's
your ridiculous takeaway?
Speaker 4 (45:22):
Like it's it's it's very rare that you see somebody
who's just a living, walking, breathing Cohen Brothers movie.
Speaker 3 (45:30):
Yes, but these two really just.
Speaker 4 (45:34):
I would be curious to ask Ethan and Joel Cohen
like to read them this story ago. Was that like
a favorite dream for you? Was that kind of weird,
like an out of body experience.
Speaker 3 (45:42):
You're like, my imagination's being read back to me because
that was mine? What about you?
Speaker 2 (45:47):
I had thank you for asking. For the first time,
I had to stop myself from doing deep Odie odin
research because the problem is you see these names, like,
you know, the paintball inventor who wrote the article, don't
you hit that? You're like, oh, forget it, I gotta go.
And then the dairy, you know, mogul who owns the mansion.
It's just too much. And the characters are so good.
(46:09):
I'm so relieved that Elton is safe home.
Speaker 3 (46:14):
I'm really knowing that out of all of them, nobody
really got hurt.
Speaker 2 (46:18):
But also it's like, you, you know, he comes from money,
but I was really fascinated by the story of Ebsco.
That's this farmer's kid and he I think he married
into society. I think that that Elton c Elton Junior's
mom seemed to be kind of like I'm sure, yeah, yeah,
So it was like that's why they got all this
coverage in the paper. But his guessing, aggressive sales, you know,
(46:42):
get them so far. Then you have this whole family dynasty.
But Elton Junior like the wild child. He never fought,
He never, you know, just.
Speaker 4 (46:52):
Like it was a charming fellow trying to get along,
going down, going along the highway named after his dad,
being abducted.
Speaker 2 (46:59):
Yeah, exactly, tries to jump out of the car at
the highway named after his dad's like the whole thing.
So I thought it was a classic Southern ridiculous crime
and I loved it. So, Dave, you know, what would
be a cherry on top is a talk bag.
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I'm Hannah, and I was just re listening to your
Ruby Slippers Update episode and I got really excited as
a native born and raised Minnesota when you mentioned we
Let's Bakery. I was taken there all the time after
school by my grandmother and it was and I lost
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one of my first seat there. So it's just kind
of fun to hear you guys talk about it. Keep
it up, you guys are really funny.
Speaker 2 (47:57):
I love that grandmother, like losing your your first tooth
there that's like so foundational sensory. I love that, and
I'm a big fan of Minnesota, so that's true. I
love it. Thank you for that.
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