Cory Gunz | ROC Solid w/ Memphis Bleek

Drink Champs Network Presents: ROC Solid with Memphis Bleek.

This week on ROC Solid, we tappin’ in with none other than Cory Gunz —  Bringing that raw lyricism, Bronx energy, and grown-man perspective, Cory is known for his rapid-fire flow and razor-sharp bars. Cory opens up about everything from his early days coming up under the watchful eye of his father, rapper Peter Gunz, to carving out his own identity in the industry. He breaks down the pressures of being labeled a prodigy, navigating the expectations that came with his Young Money era, and the lessons he learned watching legends work up close. 

Throughout the conversation, Cory gives rare insight into the creative process behind his most iconic verses, his experiences with Wayne, and how he’s evolved musically and mentally. He touches on the highs, the setbacks, and the hunger that still fuels him today. Memphis Bleek gets Cory to reflect on fatherhood, discipline, and staying true to his craft in an era where authenticity is scarce.

This episode is a reminder that Cory Gunz isn’t just a technician with the bars—he’s a survivor, a thinker, and an artist with a story still being written. A must-watch for hip hop heads, lyric lovers, and anyone rooting for real MCs.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
What up, y'all. This is your main man, Memphis Bleak
right here.

Speaker 2 (00:02):
Welcome to rock Solid, a production of iHeart Radio and
the Black Effect Network in partnership with my guys over
at Drink Champs.

Speaker 1 (00:13):
Big with the year Memphis. I'm back at it. Niggas,
notice the difference. Just pron pressy no stones.

Speaker 2 (00:21):
Yeah, y'all you already know what it is, yours truly
M Greasy, back with another motherfucking exclusive, rock Solid, brought
to you by Douce, always the smoothest Konyak to drink
when you toasted your success.

Speaker 1 (00:34):
You know what it is. We got a special my brother.

Speaker 2 (00:38):
I want to say, my little brother, my little man,
because you not you just my brother from your pops
to you y'all, my family. You was Rockefeller young Money,
one of the best fucking spinners from the b X, Harlem,
Brooklyn Queens. I don't know you gonna place this nigga
any Burrow. Niggas ain't fucking with them, you know what

(01:00):
I'm saying, And they don't know that we really really
family man. Welcome my bro Cory Guns to the mother Man.
My brother always super prowered world up.

Speaker 3 (01:11):
How you've been my gemod first of all shout out
to your album.

Speaker 1 (01:15):
My nigga, My nigga, appreciate that. Yeah, you hit me
when it draft, like.

Speaker 3 (01:18):
Yo, I listened to it consecutively. I'm gonna tell you
my like, I love everything.

Speaker 1 (01:27):
Brother.

Speaker 3 (01:27):
I altro you talking that ship. The intro you talking
that ship you should know by now is probably my
favorite song of my brother. That's that you just put
the video out. Yeah, I'm tapped in you know that
apartment three D man.

Speaker 2 (01:41):
Make sure y'all check that out man in stores, like
I put my all into that one, Like I felt
like this is my last hurrah.

Speaker 1 (01:49):
My man.

Speaker 2 (01:50):
My dog Cheach told me, he was like, yo, bleak, Like,
I'm a real fan.

Speaker 1 (01:54):
I grew up with you your career.

Speaker 2 (01:56):
You did your thing, you put out all dope albums,
but I felt like as a fan, you left us hanging.
You never gave us no closure, like you you was
talking that young ship with us, but then you grew
up and never told us how to be grown with you.

Speaker 1 (02:09):
That's crazy.

Speaker 3 (02:10):
And I was like, damn, chrast, I got I'm gonna
tell you some ship right my dad from when I
was a baby, bro, Like I'm not gonna lie as
soon as he saw me like being like realizing or
as soon as he realized I was in the rap,
he made me study bro. Of course of course is
the mean like he made me listen and understand and

(02:32):
even like grow to understand what he was saying. If
I didn't at the time, Bro, I didn't, then my
pops are attested to it. He'll tell you I didn't.
Then the same goodie with him to buy your album.

Speaker 2 (02:44):
My brother theout me it's not about.

Speaker 3 (02:50):
And get the flowers at the same time, No, my
young influence on the culture and your impact on a
lot of people here as well too, Bro, because.

Speaker 1 (02:58):
People get that kind of like not twisted. They know it.
But if they don't hear people that, I guess, man,
you know what I mean? That should I always say?

Speaker 2 (03:07):
You know, I always say, they gonna give me my flowers,
And that's when I'm at my own.

Speaker 3 (03:12):
Day in Brooklyn, They're gonna get me loyal t day,
like like I heard rel say it, Like, I don't
know if you know the impact that when you yeah,
it's all right verse Bro. That was one of the
verses that made me want to rap as well. Bro,
That verse is really important to.

Speaker 1 (03:26):
Me, Like I was gonna ask you that too before.

Speaker 3 (03:28):
Coming to age, because I didn't understand that at the time.
I'm I'm the kid I was. I was nine years
old listening the crack game. Somehow the rap game remmmy,
I'm trying to break that down and rap and try
to explain to my friends how crazy the beat is.
And he's saying and I'm none. So it's like, yo, bro,
the ship coming to everything like that. I heard from you,

(03:50):
your influences.

Speaker 1 (03:51):
I don't know if you know.

Speaker 3 (03:52):
You probably one of them the people with the most
consecutive cipher beats for niggas in the streets from that as, bro,
all your beats that you for some reason you got
the end at pick the beats the streets and people
want to wrap two that really rapping is really a
hip hop. I used to have to come outside every
day and wrap to mom, right, I used to have

(04:13):
to come outside every day and wrap the men bleakers.
I used to have to come out and do that. Bro,
that's what I remember. Having to go get the not
like yeah, having to because my Pops, I told him,
get this, that's.

Speaker 2 (04:26):
My brother man. Pops used to always be on me.
Your bleak Man, you're doing your things, stay at it.
Don't stop. Every time I used to see them, you know,
because Jay and them used to have shows together. It
was performing together, so we used to be touring together.
And I used to be with Pops and used to
always give me the game, yo, study your craft, practice

(04:46):
your flow, stay in the stude. Don't ever stop, man,
like you know what I mean, like all the time,
Like if people don't know that circle, you know what
I'm saying that og always helped me down and gave game. Yo,
what you're doing, Yo, come fuck with us, because you
know niggas I was it was a young homie, so
you know guns, he helped me down to bleek and

(05:08):
a lot of people in the industry. That's why I'm
glad I got this show, because I'm able to show
the relationships that I got with the family.

Speaker 1 (05:16):
You know, That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (05:17):
Niggas would never think that bro like I love y'all,
like you know what I mean, Like y'all from the ex.

Speaker 1 (05:22):
They know Brooklyn and d X usually don't fuck with
each other, but they do know what they're doing. That's
a fact.

Speaker 3 (05:28):
We got so much similarities that, yeah, don't admit it.
Like everybody on my family from Brooklyn even they're like, Yo,
we were the same.

Speaker 1 (05:35):
That's yo all.

Speaker 2 (05:37):
But you answer one of my questions on what, like
what made you get into the round? That's crazy you
said I was an influencer.

Speaker 1 (05:44):
Man, that shit. You fucking blew my mouth with that.
But Yo, like you was around like what.

Speaker 2 (05:50):
Sixteen fifteen when you signed with Rockefeller when we was
on doing the ding and Baseline.

Speaker 1 (05:55):
Yeah, seventeen, Yeah, I just got the President jay.

Speaker 2 (06:00):
I remember when you got your deal, my nigga like this,
lit celebrated Baseline like, oh we about to kill him
rest of peace.

Speaker 1 (06:07):
Kse Slave. We went to k Slave, went up their freestyle.
My gee. We did so many. We did like about
four or five records.

Speaker 3 (06:14):
I don't got some shop world, We got some joints.

Speaker 1 (06:17):
Word up, my nigga. We cooked some ship, my nigga.
We was in there going man.

Speaker 2 (06:23):
And this was at the same time when Saigone True Life,
everybody was getting their deal and coming up. Man, how
do you feel your impact on you know what I mean,
what was the pressure like for you at that moment?

Speaker 3 (06:35):
You gotta think of I'm around and what I'm around
everybody you just name y'all. So it's like it's like
I can't I gotta eat. I gotta pull up on
my A game. Every day, every trip, every time. I
was always a fly on the wall over there and
always looking. And I remember we did a session one day.
This is the this is the history, like this is
the ill ship that I could say I've been.

Speaker 1 (06:56):
Around like that. I ain't never gonna forget. I'm out.

Speaker 3 (06:59):
I'm in the stool of Google. Shout out the Guru,
shout out, Yah know, young Guru. He is I would say,
a big a big brother to me, but I respect
him more like an uncle, Like he don't understand that
his respect exees a brother to me, like he's I
listen to, I take his advice and bro. I was

(07:20):
in there for when Jay did the joint for Go Crazy.

Speaker 1 (07:24):
We was all in there. I was mixing it.

Speaker 3 (07:27):
You told me in that session, you say, Yo, this
is twenty years ago.

Speaker 1 (07:31):
You was like, Yo, you get the bag, you get
a deal.

Speaker 3 (07:35):
Don't go buying the jury, don't go buy the clothes,
don't go buy whatever the car is out, get your money,
get your property, get that crib you put you hook
that crib up or whatever. You flip that property or
you get whatever you gotta do to make sure that
ship is better than when you went there. After you
make it better, you sell it for more, and you
keep doing that.

Speaker 1 (07:56):
That's right.

Speaker 3 (07:56):
I never forget that ship. You told me that ship then,
and I was looking at you at the time.

Speaker 1 (08:00):
I'm like, mighty, I ain't even think of that fall yet.

Speaker 3 (08:04):
But at the time, for you to say that to me,
it was like, that's some l shit. I was just
learning the game that's going.

Speaker 1 (08:10):
On and everything.

Speaker 3 (08:11):
But but for you to choose to share that say
it to me at that time, I didn't forget it,
even if I didn't know what it meant or nothing.
And then showed the impact of words from people who
inspire and influence and who you look at a certain way,
that far they could go. I always now thirty, I'm
late thirties, yo, and I'm listening and still hear you

(08:33):
say that ship.

Speaker 1 (08:34):
So niggas like you and young Chris Yon niggas cheated. Man.
How these niggas been in the game twenty plus years
is still thirty? How?

Speaker 2 (08:48):
How what the fuck was going on? These niggas got
the O G bag and could get.

Speaker 1 (08:54):
The young nigga back like, that's insane to me.

Speaker 2 (08:58):
I come outside that now, man, No, no, what you
on the fourth floor.

Speaker 1 (09:05):
If you go on the third floor, we fuck with you.
He was blessed, bro, that's a blessing man to be
in the game, y'all.

Speaker 3 (09:11):
On the radio, y'all listen, y'a don't have any seven
I'm listening to here, I'm messing with powers, putting in
my pamps. I remember, I remember where I was at
when I heard You'll on the radio.

Speaker 1 (09:22):
I had it on tapes.

Speaker 2 (09:23):
Yeah, that'shit crazy, like all the nights in the studio, Like,
is it anything you feel like you left on the
table from the time with Deaf Jam when Jay was
up there.

Speaker 1 (09:36):
M M. I know the only thing that I'm that
I think of.

Speaker 3 (09:40):
We got a lot of good, great, great I don't
want to say good great music.

Speaker 1 (09:45):
That's a fact.

Speaker 3 (09:46):
I don't think I left none on the table because
I learned a lot and I was giving the opportunity
and I was able to be around y'all. I learned
that helped me learn a lot, see a lot. I
picked up a lot, like even what being quiet or
just being there and being around helped me see a lot,
like a quiet fast sessions Coles came through.

Speaker 2 (10:05):
That's what was just getting on to you. Was around
at the at the very beginning, Yes.

Speaker 1 (10:11):
Basically what everybody was there.

Speaker 3 (10:14):
So I was just I'm like, what is just blazing here?
Any other days random like Jacob, I'll be in them
in the in the allat of them days. J put the
call and was like, yo, bro, I'm about to come
up here. Niggas gotta go whatever room.

Speaker 1 (10:28):
Yeah, we get kicked out the room. That's a fact
out or whatever the case.

Speaker 3 (10:32):
Like, I've been around for all of that and I've
seen it and I've been able firsthand. Then you gotta
realize I'm still from the fan era. So I'm seeing
a lot of the ship. I'm hearing about it. I'm
seeing in it moved some. I'm seeing stuff like I
remember my pops coming home explaining to me why they
were standing with He was like, yo, we're standing with

(10:53):
j Man Like he's boycotting the Grammy.

Speaker 1 (10:57):
The Max came home.

Speaker 3 (10:58):
And explained to me why because they didn't go up
or accept or do nothing at the time they was nominated.
At the same time, he was like, no, he's standing
with JA like talk about it, nothing like we're gonna
no fuck that, like, what's up?

Speaker 1 (11:11):
So I remember that ship like.

Speaker 3 (11:12):
We being in the living room waiting to see them
on TV and they don't even come on and nothing
and pre tell and what he stood for and the
old like when they explained it him, like hell yeah.

Speaker 1 (11:22):
So it's just it's moments and things like.

Speaker 3 (11:24):
That that I'll remember and I'll never forget, like and
then being around and being to see that ship coming
fruition and being in the around at the same time.
A lot of these verses being recorded, like that go
Crazy verse Crazy is one of the craziest verses I
heard and.

Speaker 1 (11:40):
Shout out young Z. He was in the studio too.
He came through crazy though.

Speaker 2 (11:45):
That verse was ridiculous, and Jay wrote that ship and
then there like and then there like literally Gez came through,
played the joint, came through, played the joint, We smoked
the couple j like, I got it done, crazy bro,

(12:05):
Like hope was it was a magician, man. But you
you I always felt like your round style was just
next level.

Speaker 1 (12:16):
Bro.

Speaker 2 (12:16):
Did you feel like at any point was you ahead
of what people were accepting?

Speaker 1 (12:23):
Yeah? Sometimes I ain't gonna lie.

Speaker 3 (12:25):
Sometimes I did, but then I'm like, yo, I don't
under I didn't at the time understand a lot of
the business and how certain things went.

Speaker 1 (12:34):
I understand.

Speaker 3 (12:35):
You gotta like it's certain, it's certain ways you gotta
presentation is key, everything is key. Like you gotta certain ways,
you gotta do certain things. So I was like, Yo,
I'm rapping this way on this level and this and
nobody in it. So it's been times where I'm like,
maybe I'm just too like nobody understands it, whether it's

(12:55):
yet or they just never gonna get it, whether I
mean I mean be out of it, out of style,
maybe not, they don't get it yet. I maybe, like
I don't know what it is. But it's been times
I thought that way, And then I'm like, like, everybody
that I listen to and look up to has their
own unique traits and their own processes and their own

(13:16):
ways of moving and doing the things they do. They
have their own skill set for a reason, they have
their own whatever, you know what I'm saying, and make
them who they are and make them unique the unique
individuals they are creatively, So I just tap in with
that shit like I don't really get too caught up
in thinking of what I should be doing as far
as being like the next person, because they they who

(13:39):
they are for a reason.

Speaker 1 (13:40):
That's sure.

Speaker 3 (13:41):
So sometimes I did get a little discouraged when when
I hear somebody telling me like you got a chill,
slow down as far as the tempo or rapping. Why,
It's like, yeah, I get that, But when it's like
you gotta kind of like your is your shit is
a little too sophisticated, It's like, bro, I don't think
people are stupid though, right, so it's.

Speaker 1 (14:00):
Hard for me to like, you know what I'm saying,
and you're not stupid, so how can you write something dumb?

Speaker 3 (14:05):
Think is I don't think I'm smarter than everybody else,
Like I think people will get what I'm doing. That's
why I'm doing it for them to get it. Like
I don't, I don't think as far as some people
always had kind of I don't know, but certain ship
is like a it's a common thing with me now, No, No,
I feel you like everything is when it's supposed to happen,

(14:27):
is going to and that's a fact that like I'm
a firm believer. What's for you is for you, and
it will come to you eventually, no matter how how
much how long it takes. But what made me ask
you that question is because I feel like you and
Jay were in the scene. It's like you in the
same position that he was in where he started, you
know what I mean, Like he was like people didn't

(14:49):
understand the money talk.

Speaker 1 (14:50):
Then they didn't, They didn't get it.

Speaker 2 (14:52):
They felt like you showing off you know what I'm saying,
Like they thought, what are you talking about?

Speaker 1 (14:57):
What's this?

Speaker 2 (14:58):
What's And now niggas is looked listening and be like, yo, bro,
he wasn't talking about this so reasonable. That's no fucking
way THINKA been talking about this for thirty years and
I'm just now understanding it. I feel like that's how
they're gonna be with you, Like because yo, bro, I
don't want to fast forward, but I'm gonna be all
the way honest. Your A Milli verse to me is

(15:22):
one of the hardest versus spit right, But you know,
I just, probably like last year, understood the intro of
that verse.

Speaker 1 (15:32):
For a minute, I didn't know what you were saying
because you.

Speaker 2 (15:35):
Said wording my mamam out of my lima being you
don't know what the drama mean that. I didn't know
what dreama mean was at the time, so I'm like, okay,
what drama and drama mean?

Speaker 1 (15:46):
I he did his thing. I go on the road
with somebody in a pop dremma meaning I'm like, wait
the wait what whoa whoa whoa.

Speaker 2 (15:54):
Go back to a MILLI It's like, nah, nah, this nigga,
it wasn't doing this ship this long ago.

Speaker 3 (16:02):
That That's what I'm telling I used to have to
take that ship emotions.

Speaker 1 (16:08):
Yeah, biggers all boats and ship. Yeah. I used to
get costick when I was a kid.

Speaker 3 (16:14):
I used to get cosstick bad. And we used to
have to be on the road a lot, going down South.

Speaker 1 (16:18):
With my grandparents. Yeah. We used to go down south
every summer like then to talk about we going. Were
going for sure, Okay, no, it might.

Speaker 3 (16:27):
Be a most two three months, maybe early, maybe late,
but we're definitely going. At some point, we're going to Virginia.
I used to be on the road six seven hours.

Speaker 1 (16:36):
And be ship. They gotta pull over. I'm throwing up.

Speaker 3 (16:39):
They found that ship. I was taking that ship and
be good. So after a while I just got I
didn't get motion sickness.

Speaker 1 (16:46):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I knew.

Speaker 3 (16:48):
I remember that from having to take that ship so much,
and I know that it.

Speaker 2 (16:52):
Was just from the motion yeah shaking, Yo, bro, I
never heard of that drug until I went on the
road where I ain't gonna say no names because I
got chewed up last time I bought the son Like, Yo,
you dissing me, so I can't even I gotta keep
it like anonymous allegedly, you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (17:09):
And they popped the dream of me. I'm like, what's
that for? Nick?

Speaker 2 (17:11):
To everything you say your for emotion sickness, I don't
like sitting in the back of the car.

Speaker 1 (17:15):
This and this yo were on the boat they needed.

Speaker 2 (17:18):
I'm like, I never heard of the ship and I'm
telling you only place I ever heard that word mentioned
was a MILLI and I had to go.

Speaker 3 (17:26):
Back and I wasn't n That was the middle of
my verse when I wrote that verse with him, like
I wrote it, he played me the song already. People
be a lot of people beginning ship can screw like yo,
you right.

Speaker 1 (17:41):
For a lot of people thought people helped. Wayne is
nice man. He played that ship done already. Yeah, it's
three verses. It was three verses on the record. He
played me the whole song one time already before.

Speaker 2 (17:56):
M so he gave you a cheat code because usually
Nick don't do that. He did come closer, Come closer,
Come closer to me.

Speaker 3 (18:03):
He played it straight through one time for me to
get where he like, I don't know if he played
all three.

Speaker 1 (18:09):
He played like a couple. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (18:11):
He's like, yo, bro, this is it, like, this is
this is how it saund this is what I'm doing
on here. So I'm like, all right, I know he
just ed this ship out. What I'm gonna think, I
gotta edit this ship out, like you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (18:23):
It's like I heard that. I gotta it.

Speaker 3 (18:25):
I can't like so with them on this verse, I
wrote two in my head. I'm like, I'm gonna write
two verses. I'm gonna write one one I'm just punching.
And that was the first part of the one I wrote.
Then the second one, I was like, I'm gonna just
do me on the second part. Like so in the
middle of the verses, when you hear me say nigga
word that my mama, I do a whole verse before that,

(18:46):
and then I cut myself off on something like I'm
skitching into some other ship and then go So that's
the second part of the verse I did, is.

Speaker 1 (18:53):
What he was like. He come out. I'm like, yo,
you want me to do it over? I got to
rewrite doing another one.

Speaker 3 (18:58):
He was like, come out right now it's done. You
don't even know, Like, so I'll go out.

Speaker 1 (19:03):
He's like, yo, nigga, this is it. Using it, that's it.

Speaker 3 (19:05):
You don't got to go and nothing else, like you
sure like this is it?

Speaker 1 (19:10):
That's it. That was it. He was right. He did it,
and that was it. He called it.

Speaker 3 (19:15):
He picked the spot or the verse, everything like the
part as far as like the part he wanted to
cut it out, which like energy wise everything like he
knew what he wanted from the record, so.

Speaker 1 (19:27):
He picked that spot, did everything like man, that's what's up. Man.
Wayne is definitely super talented, super dope.

Speaker 2 (19:36):
But Yo, you know a lot of people, you know,
I even had j Mills up here, and you know,
I see a lot of interviews with a lot of
young money, a lot of young money artists. You know,
people say, yo, how do you feel being from young money?

Speaker 1 (19:48):
You I know, you was down with young money.

Speaker 2 (19:51):
But I don't view you as from young money because
you are and was who you was before you got
the young money and still even after young money. So
my question to you is how did that relationship even form?
Was it something that Wang made a call to you, like, Yo, Guns,
I need you on the team. I need a shooter,

(20:13):
I need a point guard. I need to shooting.

Speaker 3 (20:14):
God, Bro, busy right, I didn't notice, Like it was
a couple of times and a couple of people that
we knew mutually that would tell me that wing say, hell, Bro,
want to holler at you.

Speaker 1 (20:26):
So I'm like, no, you don't like you know what
I'm saying, come on, Bro, I ain't going for that ship.
That's right.

Speaker 3 (20:35):
So's but it started coming from credible sources, and I'm
like what One day I heard he actually pulled up
to my block and the acts came to the block, Bro,
and I wasn't there, and the niggas told me like
that was out there.

Speaker 1 (20:50):
Was like he pulled up, Bro, like we saw him.

Speaker 3 (20:54):
They ain't have a reason to lie about it, you
know what I'm saying, Like they're like, yo, no, he
pulled up, Bro, like we saw that nigga. He was
looking for you whatever he goes. I said what he
was like, yeah, my man, busy man shout out to
busy he. I don't know who exactly it was. That
was his contact with him, but he's like a cousin,

(21:14):
like he's a family move. So he told me one day,
he like, yo, this when I'm on the label I'm
at But he don't know. He didn't notice stipiet. He
didn't know Jay has sign mean through that jin he
comes through this one guru this.

Speaker 1 (21:29):
Every time go mention this, He's like, yo, bro.

Speaker 3 (21:32):
He was like, when I go in the office, you
don't understand the leverage. Niggas say, oh, bro, you have
to because at the time you gotta think this. When
he just dropped Dedication two called the two, he's doing
TRL and all that shit promo about to drop Carter three.
This is in between them that time. So he like, yo, bro,

(21:54):
you just he was like HEO, you know, Wayne just
came through here for you and did y'all. Y'all just
did a record. He was like, yo, bro, they couldn't
get that. With all due respect, he was like, no,
nobody could do what just happened today. Like he was like,
that's right there is. He recorded the joint. It was
originally the shout out the DJ Khalil. He recorded it

(22:16):
and just ended up doing the beatover when Wayne came
to the studio.

Speaker 1 (22:20):
He was recording that. Sony. Wayne came to the.

Speaker 3 (22:24):
Lab he said it. He was like, yo, bro, what's
your situation, Like, what's should like? And I explained to
him with the like yeah, I'm on dev Jaane, but
this is through. When he as soon as he heard
it was through j Bleek, he was like, I ain't
stepping on the big Homie told. He was like, I
ain't know that. He was like I thought. He was
like if ever you know what I'm saying. He was like,
whatever you need from me, we got you.

Speaker 1 (22:46):
That was it. He was like, yeah, this is on
the love though. He was like we got his love.

Speaker 3 (22:49):
He was like, I ain't know it was out of
respect for that and I was like, we already here
doing this. He was like whatever y'all need, whatever, holler
at me. From then on, That's when I started like
I'm like, well, no, I fuck with this nigga. He
pulled up, didn't charge came through In the middle of
his promo run Bro.

Speaker 1 (23:07):
He was on he was doing.

Speaker 3 (23:09):
TRL and one six word up. He came through in
the middle of his promo run. He stopped at the lab,
did have did sixteen? Realized I did thirty two, then
did another sixteen. So we did a whole song and
just was able to chop in make it a record.

Speaker 1 (23:26):
Just we did it. We did two long.

Speaker 3 (23:28):
Verses and just just created CD of something else to
it that made it like So from that it was
like blaze.

Speaker 1 (23:35):
That's how we first linked though.

Speaker 3 (23:37):
That's how that relationship personally me and him, because I
seen him from time to time, like going to New
Orleans or going certain places I see and we know
a few mutual people, but I never met him. That
was the time, the one it was like he was
like nigga. He told me straight up. He was like yo,
I thought he was like I wanted to pull up
here and then we was out. We was going to
hit one O six and do all this ship like

(23:59):
he was like he was about to come with the team.
I ain't gonna step on Homie big Homie tools Like
he was like, fuck with JA.

Speaker 1 (24:05):
He was like I didn't know that. He was like
you family, whatever, y'all need you know what?

Speaker 2 (24:08):
I mean, I ain't gonna front cash money, been fam
since before time. Niggas don't even know that that relationship
with them is like that, you know what I'm saying,
Like wang fam.

Speaker 1 (24:21):
Like word like all of them.

Speaker 2 (24:24):
All of them, the whole cash money b g all
of the biggest man that's the family team word.

Speaker 1 (24:31):
And that's dope.

Speaker 2 (24:31):
Like when I seen you over there in the squad,
I'm like, Damn, they got hitters over there, you J Mills,
fucking Tiger, Nikki Drake I told, I told Miles the
same thing. I just feel like y'all caught the wave
of what I dealt with with J. Like some things
is just anomalies and it just it's just grow too

(24:55):
fast and it's nothing you can do no matter. Like
I feel like if I would have had my run
without Jay trying to become the billionaire he was, I
would have been way bigger. That's like all of y'all
on your money that like Nikki and Drake, Lulu Wayne
already had the wave, but Nicki and Drake caught the

(25:16):
stupidest super life Sonic Solar System spend that that shit
don't happen to nobody. You've never seen a label sign
two artists and they fucking become the biggest artists in
the world at the same time that it doesn't happen bro.
So like y'all was up against that mega monster where

(25:37):
label they're gonna chase the brag. They love all the artists,
they want all of y'all to beat them. But when
when a certain artists get that look, it's just not
on you. And I felt that when Beans came to Rockefeller,
you know what I mean, even when shit was over
and like it was dying thing. P d Krack caught
the neo joint. Niggas ain't throw that was bleak throw

(26:00):
that verse on it. It was nine you the old
it's the new ride. Even when y'all was getting signed
true life, I knew my position. I was there always
just trying to help y'all because I knew y'all was
the new face of the new wave where they were going.

Speaker 1 (26:17):
So I never wanted to be that guy.

Speaker 2 (26:19):
I felt like, you know how, like the quarterback when
it's not your time and it's the rookie nigga come
up and now he hated Nah.

Speaker 1 (26:25):
I want to be that nigga back there with the clipboard,
like this, like, Nah, what's the next play? Your fam?
You could do this like this because I used to
always be in a.

Speaker 2 (26:32):
Stoo every night with you and to be like whatever,
if niggas need a hook, you need me to tell,
just make the beat better, Kanye, make a new beat.
Let me know, Bro, I'm running there and let niggas know.
So I always been pushing for you to win, and
I felt like you won in many many ways.

Speaker 1 (26:54):
Do you feel like you accomplished everything you wanted to
in music? I do. I do to an extent.

Speaker 3 (27:01):
It's certain things and certain things I still want to
like of course there's still certain goals, especially numerically.

Speaker 1 (27:11):
And ship. You still in the new era, bro, when
they're throwing the bags out.

Speaker 3 (27:15):
Yeah, like number wise, Yeah, as far as like art
and culture wise, like I bought everybody that I listen
to growing up and not inspired and influenced me told
me I was dope. So that ship is like a
like a it's not an arrogance, it's not a but
it's a but it's like an I yeah, nigga, you

(27:36):
you're there. That's a fad now what you're doing type ship?
Like that's what I get from it ain't even like
you him now or not. It's a I you on
the radar, So what you're gonna do now type ship?
Like they hate you, they see you. So what you're
gonna do next? What you're going now, Like, how you're
gonna maintain, how you're gonna be better than this?

Speaker 1 (27:54):
Like that's right. So that's how I look at it
and see it.

Speaker 3 (27:56):
But like everybody I listen to that inspired me and
influenced me in ways I was able to, if not
face to face, hit them or see them. And some
on some sort of record say that, like you that
niggas different. He nice, that's a fact, like you know mean,
So it's like that alone. That's what I really at

(28:18):
one point, that's what I was really all about. That's
all I really cared about, was like yo, as long
as the goats still do. But it's still like now
it's like I'm more business oriented with certain ship.

Speaker 1 (28:30):
And that's that's right, man, what's new? What's new? Like?

Speaker 2 (28:33):
But hold on, before we even get into what's new?
Not gonna let you finish? You said you still got
goals you want to what's what's some of those goals
you feel like you want to hit now.

Speaker 1 (28:42):
I want to.

Speaker 3 (28:45):
My main thing that I always want to do. I
want to be able to like be the reason that
somebody is great. Oh no, it's I want to stay
in be hand. I want to be the exact Broason
as somebody listen or somebody was inspired.

Speaker 1 (28:58):
I want to inspire.

Speaker 2 (29:00):
If you don't think you inspired, bro your family you
have from Pops, Lord Torik to you, I told you
before this, right, I know it's a kid out there
you inspired lyrically, But y'all niggas influenced the regular name
rappers in the game.

Speaker 1 (29:17):
Remember before your.

Speaker 2 (29:19):
Pops think Peter Guns, Lord Tarik, if he'd just came
out as Peter and Tarrek, niggas of them like.

Speaker 1 (29:27):
Yeah nah, who.

Speaker 2 (29:29):
Let me hear that? Bust the rhymes throwing that common sense,
you know what I mean? Grabbers black thought like niggas
came with a regular Peter Guns, then Lord Toik and
then Corey Guns like y'all influenced the rappers of today.
Think about it, y'ad fucking Tory Lanes by g like,

(29:51):
it's a lot of them, aren't you.

Speaker 1 (29:53):
Joe Buttens like you film me like niggas that reg
it wasn't that before, y'all is different. So on that note,
you influence in my nigga.

Speaker 2 (30:04):
Like, if you don't hear you your thumb print fingerprint
on the flows up today, then you might not be
listening to the right people because everybody flowing like they
wanna because everybody can't, but they wanna flow like you, bro, Like,
think about it, it's only one other artist two that

(30:26):
I'm gonna say got the illness flows other than you
in this game that I put you with, right, Big
Daddy Kane is number one, because I feel like no one,
no one ever matched that a w flow like like
first person.

Speaker 1 (30:44):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (30:45):
I watched that man perform that record by hisself, no
hype man, one hundred per breath control.

Speaker 3 (30:52):
Spitting like that's the first person growing like I ain't
gonna lie to you, and.

Speaker 2 (30:57):
Then it's you with that nobody ever hurt, nobody mimic
your flow can flow.

Speaker 1 (31:03):
And then I gotta throw my dog freeway up there.

Speaker 2 (31:05):
Free you feel me like y'all three spinners that niggas
cannot immulate, bro, they cannot. I don't give a fuck
how much you sit with, how much tape you watch,
if you you can watch all the film you want.
You're not gonna come out and be sounding like y'all
guys like when y'all spit. You know, so, I definitely

(31:28):
want to give you your flowers on that, mom bro,
because any record niggas hear you on, trust me, you
make the best spinners have to step their game up.
And you did records with some of the goats. You
made all of them around. Better me too, because I
remember being there, like, ain't no fucking way I'm gonna
let this little nag.

Speaker 1 (31:49):
Niggas. Ain't no way. You ain't gonna have to beat
me up.

Speaker 2 (31:51):
They gonna have to say, blee, gotta jump out the
little niggas.

Speaker 3 (31:59):
But you, no, I'm telling you, but you you don't
understand like the pressure and the inspiration and influences would
make niggas want to like it's like a Noah, I
got it, I can't play, I can't I gotta rap.
I got it, Like nah, this week you're listening. You
listen to it his music already like you already, like

(32:19):
you don't need to, like that's extra pressure.

Speaker 1 (32:23):
No, no, no, man.

Speaker 2 (32:24):
You you parted the legendary young spinners that paved the
way for these new young spinners in New York.

Speaker 1 (32:32):
And you still fucking young is what is insane, my nigga.
He was making history as a teenager and still making
history like fucking like, think about it. Niggas play with
a lot of rap names they throw out. It's all
type of battle rap leagues all it is. You ain't

(32:54):
never heard of nigga play with Corey not no gun.
They play with guns, but they don't play with these guns.
I just gotta be honest, you know what I mean.
Niggas literally play with guns. They don't play with Peter
and Cory guns. I'll be ing like it's real talk.

Speaker 2 (33:17):
Niggas even be shitting on me bleep, don't want no smoke.
But niggas ain't playing with you, my niggas, So you
gotta know that that means something.

Speaker 3 (33:26):
Bro, Like, look, bro, it's not a rapper in this
game you but this is the thing, Like you're part
of the reason for that. So well you're not realizing
that I'm even trying to tell you. It's like, you know,
I come from the lineage, like my time in the
class and from there, like you can't like what we're

(33:48):
doing here, Like you know, what it is like you
in this room already gotta be elite.

Speaker 1 (33:53):
You're an elite. You can do what we're.

Speaker 3 (33:54):
Doing here, Like there's no room for nothing but you
being the best that you could be.

Speaker 1 (34:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (34:00):
Yeah, and you and you from the Mecca, bro, the acts,
that's where hip hop is birthed at. You know what
I'm saying, Like you coming from the Mecca, I feel
like you gotta be.

Speaker 1 (34:10):
A spinner, but can't you?

Speaker 2 (34:12):
Yeah, no, you got I mean I think just being
from New York, but being from the Bronx, you gotta be.

Speaker 1 (34:18):
He got the worst critics.

Speaker 3 (34:20):
Like when I say the worst, we got the best
fan base. Because if you come from here, like people say,
you come from here, you make it anyway, literally a diamond.

Speaker 1 (34:29):
Coming out of New York. Oh yeah, that's a fact.

Speaker 3 (34:31):
Real like you if you able to like your skin
is a different level with tough m.

Speaker 1 (34:38):
You come from New York, you good anywhay?

Speaker 2 (34:41):
Literally, No, that's a fact. That's because New York. We're
the toughest critics in the world. Bro, niggas and niggas.

Speaker 1 (34:47):
Yo, you know how many shows I did in New
York where you'll get on the stage and the crowd
not moving one big.

Speaker 2 (34:55):
You be standing in there, like, dude, these niggas fuck
with me and they you think about it. No, Wait,
I'm in New York. It ain't that they don't. Niggas
is too fly, piggas. I'm not sweating out this guccie
out for this nigga.

Speaker 1 (35:10):
You better, nigga, I pay to see you perform. I'm
not performing with you.

Speaker 2 (35:16):
You're killing Yeah, but you see shorty y'all. Wait, look
she just got hair done. She's not sweating that out.
I'm doing that at.

Speaker 1 (35:25):
The Telly or niggas is definitely be there like this
gay hold me killing this shy and they know you
killing it?

Speaker 2 (35:40):
Yeah, nigga Like nah, like you see you got on
a fresh pear of cheeses in the club.

Speaker 1 (35:47):
Niggas gotta play ten feet. That's what I want to
ask you. Nigga, get close. God's gonna be like, hey, listen,
you step on knees. I got a couple of questions,
what's up? But I was too young for this? Like
right when I say too young, my pops was not
letting me go.

Speaker 2 (36:06):
With them, yo, chill. I was that nigga too. I
had to wait in the hotel room. I got left
a lot on tour.

Speaker 1 (36:11):
I don't worry. I got left in the hotel a lot. Yeah.
I went to the tunnel.

Speaker 2 (36:17):
Oh my god, Pops violated. Pops was supposed to bring
you in the tunnel where he.

Speaker 1 (36:23):
Let me go? Like all right, now, mind you you
did speed. Y'all had clubs like Palladium. That wasn't my error.
That was Jay err But I was in there Palladium. Yeah,
I did Pladi. It was after they had speed. Yeah,
you did speed. You had to been in speed. Was
there but at the on my own at one point,
That's what I mean.

Speaker 2 (36:41):
Speed was like y'all tunnel booms you heard, Yeah, booms
was lit.

Speaker 1 (36:46):
That was right by me. I couldn't go.

Speaker 2 (36:48):
Damn, that's fucked up. You miss skate to be able
to do sound checks.

Speaker 1 (36:52):
He missed. Another one was Palladium. It was it was.

Speaker 2 (36:58):
It was a few bro tunnel was y'all. I heard
it in y'all songs.

Speaker 1 (37:04):
How I know? It was like, y'all was my Pops
was picked like Marg's twenty one twelve, all that type
of hit. Do the sound check? Yeah, you can't come
to the show.

Speaker 3 (37:15):
Every the one time and everything I hear everything around
is the tunnel, Like everybody I'm around that I hear
that has been in there and that I'll be wanting
to know these stories about it.

Speaker 1 (37:25):
Now.

Speaker 2 (37:25):
The tunnel is legendary, bro, Like the tunnel was like
that's when you knew it. Oh yeah, the unisex bathroom. Yeah,
you girls and boys using the bathroom together. It used
to go down in the tunnel. Boy, But Yo, the
tunnel was like, I feel like the tunnel was our
way of gauging if you had the streets, if your

(37:50):
song had the streets. Because it's a lot of niggas
winning the tunnel and shit didn't ring off. And there's
a lot of niggas who went in there and they
shit win ape shit the way it felt like everybody
died and came back to life. That's how crazy they
went for Like the club exploded and we all just
came back.

Speaker 1 (38:06):
Like what the funk just happened? Like when my right
dropped broke. That's what I was about. That Listen that beat,
that's Yo's shout out. DJ twins Man, twins Man.

Speaker 3 (38:22):
I could call five people, right, Sonny, you don't remember
every day we come out were playing.

Speaker 2 (38:26):
That Yo, the Twins gave me that joint shout out
Flex because Flex the one who really went crazy with
that fucking.

Speaker 3 (38:37):
Record every day, every day, every style right, and every
day like that was the mean ship.

Speaker 1 (38:46):
That was my pick. That was the go to, like whatever,
I'm mat you know them.

Speaker 2 (38:51):
Nah, but that that was ship. Like, It's so crazy
that that was the moment when I knew I I'm here,
like I'm here, I'm in the game.

Speaker 1 (39:03):
I made it understanding, like myth bleak is what you
think of that? Yo? Bro? I used to get it's
so crazy.

Speaker 2 (39:13):
I didn't even what you think of That was supposed
to be the first single, but we couldn't clear the sample.
They didn't clear the sample until Jay put his verse
on it because I wasn't known. So the niggas is like,
who the fuck is that Jay put his verse on it?
Then they clear the sample. But at that time, Jay
was like, Yo, I gotta go home. Me and Swissland

(39:33):
he y ass got on the plane and went and
did myth bleak is. I didn't even like that record, bro.
I didn't even like myth Bleakers, bro. And it's so
crazy that that song is the reason why I was
in the Bronx so much like you talking about the
other clubs. Man, y'all had one of the best fucking
skating roller rings in the world.

Speaker 1 (39:56):
He what skate what's the name? Yo, bro? They used
took They used to book me every week. They used
to book me every week. I was in skate Key.
Myth bleak is to death by nigger, like yo, trust me,
and I used to love when that ship came up
on the calendar, like the key. Oh we it was.

(40:17):
I'm telling you the impact.

Speaker 3 (40:19):
I'm telling you this ship y'all been the key, do
my lady, But.

Speaker 2 (40:25):
That was I was already passed the key at that time.
Myth bleak is what you think of that? Fucking like
crew love coming to age. Those was the skate Key days,
do mi. I was already in the tunnel. I was
leg I was in ski rest in peace, mister c man.

Speaker 3 (40:43):
You know, I mean what, I ain't gonna lie that
what you think of that? Keep mentioning telling me the
first time I heard that ship shout out buck wow
each other, like yo, this is that my possible? I'm
like you here, like do we hear what's going on?
You're like, yo, this ship is out of here.

Speaker 1 (41:04):
I fuck you, my nigga. I appreciate you, bro. Crazy.

Speaker 2 (41:08):
What's what's next for you musically? Are you like you
got any other ideas outside of music or you just
slowly focused on music right now we're.

Speaker 1 (41:16):
Doing the music. I ain't gona front.

Speaker 3 (41:18):
I got some other ship that I've been working on,
like as far as like I want to tap into
the films, I want to tap into a couple other
business ventures as far as like not only just totally music,
but like even food, even working out different stuff like that,
Like I want to tap into the health and fitness
I want to tap into, Like I'll be into like food.

(41:38):
I want to do something at some point with some
pizza and some movies. Like that's my two biggest things
that I'll be really into.

Speaker 2 (41:45):
Like, and I feel like the Bronx got a major
story too, man, Like it's so many legends, so much
legendary shit from up there.

Speaker 1 (41:52):
Man, Yeah, that story gotta be told.

Speaker 2 (41:54):
Who else but the kid who grew up behind watching
the Lynn. Come on, bro, you're done seen you had
a front row seat at all. So much legendary shit,
bro that the average kid didn't get a chance.

Speaker 1 (42:08):
To live the life you live you know me and
kidding me.

Speaker 2 (42:11):
Man, you was on tour at fucking you was a
running around the world with your pops ten years old.
They platinum, triple platinum on their single tour in the world,
and here you are with the little nigga riding on
stage everything. Think about that, bro, Not every kid had
that life, you know what I mean? Like, like you said,
you might not have had the accolade's music come with

(42:35):
like the yo the album did this or the single
did this? But bro, you live a better life than
certain rappers that did. It's rappers that went gold had
never been on tour, you.

Speaker 1 (42:48):
Know what I mean. It's rappers with platinum singles that
never made the album.

Speaker 2 (42:55):
So so it's like, that's why I always tell people's
success is how you measure happiness. Success is not wealth.
I feel like success is happiness. As happy as you
can be with the decisions and choices in life where
you are at. That's successful to me.

Speaker 1 (43:14):
Bro.

Speaker 2 (43:14):
If you could go to sleep with a smile on
your face and know you did everything you wanted to
do and you accomplished everything, and everybody healthy and good, nigga,
that's success.

Speaker 1 (43:23):
Money is secondary, you know what I mean. So that's
my view of success. You know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (43:31):
So you got any projects, dropping any music, you want
to promote anything.

Speaker 3 (43:37):
Lucy Pat, it's full right on the fourth phone. How
you forget, see said, when you're on the fourth that's
how you know. He got too many raps, too many raps.

Speaker 2 (43:47):
Biggat said he even know the date. I told him
why because every day Friday.

Speaker 1 (43:52):
Only niggas forget the date is because Monday is Friday, Tuesday.
Nigga like, yo, you go out there. I go out
every day. You know what. That's called boss life, live
a boss. You know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (44:04):
You gotta be you gotta be grateful and thankful for
that that you're able to provide and pay bills and
set your own hours. Because I know niggas who work
nine to fives and they say that shit sucks. I
never had a nine to five. My nine to five
always been this, and there's been twenty four to eight,
so I ain't even been a nine to five.

Speaker 1 (44:24):
That shiit twenty four eight.

Speaker 3 (44:25):
Is that's what they don't understand too. That work too
hell yeah, shit like it ain't no like walking the
explain to somebody. I'm like Yo, you complaining and you
know what, Tom, you gotta do whatever you gotta do,
Like I get a call right now, I gotta make
a move. This shit is like any second, any moment,
any given Tom, you gotta get up and make a move,

(44:47):
Like you might have to leave town. You might have
to do this, you might have to be at this
place like it's different.

Speaker 1 (44:53):
That's a fact. Question.

Speaker 2 (44:57):
Isn't any place you ever traveled in form and you
was like shot, like, oh ship, they know me over here, they.

Speaker 1 (45:04):
Fucking my ship down here? Any country city, oh matter.

Speaker 2 (45:11):
Australia, Oh ship, I love the love Australia shout out, yeah, perfect,
that's the that's the ad, that's the top.

Speaker 1 (45:19):
I'm like y'all booking me here. First of all.

Speaker 3 (45:24):
To that ship performed. They rock, They was rocking, Oh ship.

Speaker 1 (45:32):
And that's what's crazy.

Speaker 2 (45:34):
Overseas like places like that Australia, New Zealand, Germany, London.

Speaker 1 (45:39):
Oh bro, they love real hip hop like it was different.

Speaker 2 (45:42):
They don't like that, like they like commercial rapper's gonna
pop me. I could say places like that Australia, New
Zealian like New Zealand, like I got a show coming
out being Japan.

Speaker 1 (45:54):
You'll be going everywhere.

Speaker 2 (45:56):
Yeh see me, I like to travel on something because
I traveled on tour to a lot of these countries,
and I feel like when you go to these places
for a show, you don't really see the city or
the country. You just see the hotel club in the airport.
You might see one restaurant and mad places like that,

(46:16):
and you didn't never enjoy the city. So now, like
being married, I like to go back to these places
with my wife and do a little bit of the
tourist ship. You know, that's a shop, walk around, go
take some pictures, go see what the food of the
of the of the culture.

Speaker 1 (46:32):
Favoring place you went to. It like a right, It's
anything I could. We could come here and be good,
oh like, and I could retire likee.

Speaker 3 (46:41):
I'd rather stay here if anything, If I gotta leave here,
or if I had to choose somewhere to stay countrywise
that you'll visited.

Speaker 2 (46:48):
I think we both. I think me and my wife
both would agreed. Any city in Italy Italy yo, I
want to go any city, and I want to go
because I love them. I love con So, but Italy
is just it's just vibes man like it's cool.

Speaker 1 (47:04):
It's wine wine in pasta. If I'm a retired, call it,
call it a day, kick my feet up. Wine in pasta.
That's my ship.

Speaker 2 (47:15):
Yeah, I've been to nice bro. I've been yo bro,
no bullshit. I've been everywhere, like only places like no bullshit,
Like I'm trying to go to places that like that.
Nobody been to, like new ship, like fucking they got
this spot.

Speaker 1 (47:36):
I think it's Lapland Finland Finland like Lapland, like I've been.
I've been to what is it hell Sinki, But Lapland
Finland is like the edge of fucking Finland. And they
got some ship up there with the rain there is
and Santa Claus that they do for Christmas because it's

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like the North Pole where they really do ship.

Speaker 2 (48:00):
Where they got the uh everything. So I want to
take my daughter there, like you know what I mean.
I want to do ship like Zanzibar where I did Tanzania,
but I never did Zanzibar where that's like the island
off of How is that Tanzania's fire? All Africa's fire?
I mean, like people confuse Africa like it's the whole country.

Speaker 1 (48:25):
It's just the continent.

Speaker 2 (48:26):
And you know every country is is broken up because
like Egypt, fucking Morocco, like you.

Speaker 1 (48:33):
Know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (48:34):
Then you got Johannesburg, Cape Town, Kabong like all those
is different countries on the continent Africa.

Speaker 1 (48:42):
Everybody just placed the whole shit is Africa. Yeah. See
now I want to go to Na Definitely. It's many
different parts. Man.

Speaker 2 (48:50):
Let me listen. And one thing about me, I tell
all my niggas. Anywhere you travel in the world.

Speaker 1 (48:58):
It blizzle.

Speaker 2 (48:59):
I got the up, been there already, don't risk it.
Niggas is already boots on the ground. All you gotta
bring is bring your wraps and you're good. Get you
sit you.

Speaker 1 (49:10):
I don't care if you're in Egypt or lapland Finland.
Hit me up down, but yeah nah, Like where yup?
Where yup?

Speaker 2 (49:25):
What's your favorite place you've been to? A place you
want to travel to? You said Italy.

Speaker 3 (49:30):
I want to go to Italy like Italy, Italy is
Italy and the En and it's Africa.

Speaker 1 (49:36):
It's certain places because a must I feel like it's
a musk for us.

Speaker 3 (49:39):
I want to go to Africa, but I want Africa
to be like a month's long, like, because I want
to go everywhere in it, everywhere in Africa like that.
I can like to every city every like outside of this,
I want to go to every spot.

Speaker 1 (49:54):
It's different countries out there.

Speaker 2 (49:55):
It's not like cities like us, man, like how we
broken up in the cities. That ship is all different everywhere.
It's different country, different staff. Yeah, I did Egypt, did
all that shit, bro, all that shit, bro.

Speaker 1 (50:08):
I want to do that.

Speaker 2 (50:09):
I did everything, yo, Bro, I've been I've been yo, Bro.
I don't sing.

Speaker 1 (50:14):
Ship that motherfuckers will be like no way like.

Speaker 2 (50:17):
And I'm the type why I got homies in all
these places because I live life outside of the velvet rope.
My g like that. That standing in VIP all day. Yeah,
I let them do that. I go out in the crowd.
I want to meet somebody. I want to get the law.
I want to meet the local. I want to do
local ship. I want to eat what they eat. I

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want to see who the plug is.

Speaker 1 (50:41):
We're we're the real club at the strip clubs and
ship like that.

Speaker 2 (50:45):
So everywhere I go. If they call it checking in,
then I check in everywhere I go. But I'm tapped
in with a local everywhere, bro, Like I already got
the homies in Japan making reservations at restaurants for me
right now.

Speaker 1 (51:01):
That's what I'm saying. So it's like.

Speaker 2 (51:03):
Anywhere you go, holler like Japan. Yeah, I remember Ross
was in Dublin. Him and Gunplay niggas hit me up yo,
bleak you yo. You know, had them taken care of
had my irish my GE's pull up smoke for them,
that nigga Gunplay Like, no way, nah bleak you the
plugs telling you anywhere bro, shout out my dogs out

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there Dublin man, my man, Rob Kelly Man or like
we got plugs, my giso. Anywhere you go, it's up for.

Speaker 3 (51:35):
You, that'sz nah. Yeah, I'm trying to go. Man, it's
a few places.

Speaker 1 (51:40):
Still, Like what's your bucket list?

Speaker 2 (51:42):
You said Africa, Italy, Egypt, Egypt.

Speaker 1 (51:49):
Egypt is in Africa.

Speaker 2 (51:50):
But I'm like, I love my niggas because until you go,
you really don't.

Speaker 1 (51:56):
Understand what Africa really is. It's just one big cun
treated that's over here. That's a fact I'm trying to think.
Of course, Japan, I gotta check out Japan too. I
want to go.

Speaker 2 (52:08):
You did the Islands because if I don't like my
second choice, if I wouldn't move to Italy, would be
Saint Lucia, like Jamaica.

Speaker 1 (52:18):
Saint Lucia. Mega. You never been to Jamaica, yo, my man,
Come on man, you could have spent Yo. You could
spend food stamps and go to Jamaica. Man stopping. I
ain't going to Jamaica yet. I'm playing. Ain't mine life
going there going, so I ain't gonna lie.

Speaker 2 (52:36):
Yo, No, you gotta go to Jamaica. You did, can't
coon yo, guns nah man, listen.

Speaker 1 (52:45):
Were hanging out, We all hanging out.

Speaker 2 (52:48):
He don't know what day it is, so every day
it's Friday to him, so I know he got he Yo.

Speaker 1 (52:53):
Ain't like y'all working today every day Friday. If we
all fucking hanging out, you did d y'all p y'all
I did. He's gonna lie.

Speaker 3 (53:03):
I did PR because of the powers to mix your
power simmer before the one we had in Muhammas.

Speaker 1 (53:10):
Yo, chill man, I left the one in Pall. That's
so when I was at when I went the PR,
that's when damon all them dip sat and everybody was
out there. I left because I thought they tried to
set me up. That's when we had smoke with Dip Sound.
They told me I couldn't work. They told me I
couldn't bring nobody with me. Blink, you gotta come by yourself.
So I'm like, all right, cool, fucking I'm with the rockets.

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Cool everybody out there. I get out there. Beans wasn't there,
Freeway wasn't there. I go to the pool. It's freaky.
Zekey Jim Joe, Santana, Cam, all them niggas hit the pool.
I'm like, I see what this is. I got it.

Speaker 2 (53:52):
I took a cab right to the airport, got the
fuck up out of there.

Speaker 1 (53:55):
Niggas they're gonna jump me in Puerto Rico. Fuck that
nigga got out. Yeah, that was when I was that
was it. That's crazy, my nigga. I forgot. We did
the power of something in the Bahamas. That's when. Was

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the Puerto Rico and that's the two I went to.

Speaker 2 (54:18):
That's when Bahamas prices was was chilled. Now, ship's outrageous.
I was out there like a couple of months ago.
I went to jet Ski. Nigga told me four hundred dollars.
I told a nigga. I could buy the jet Ski
for four hundred. That's a damn payment to you are out.
It was like, huh now, I'm cool.

Speaker 1 (54:38):
Ain't nobody coming to pay that for hell No? I
was like, I'm that gotta be COVID price. I guess
abody for coming to pay that. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (54:50):
I'd rather buy the jet ski. Take me to the shop.
We're gonna buy one.

Speaker 1 (54:54):
Fuck that something. I'm a abn be the jet Ski
without leave.

Speaker 4 (54:58):
Yeah, start nb ab water rentals, nigga, yo, if y'all
come up with that plane.

Speaker 2 (55:10):
Just no, they took that ship from Blizz because they
don't they got the helicopters.

Speaker 1 (55:16):
They don't got the water rentals. Blizz as the fact.
That's crazy. But yeah, that Bahamas trip was different.

Speaker 3 (55:27):
It was. It was busy that week in Test.

Speaker 1 (55:31):
I was it was battle. It was. It was active.
It was active.

Speaker 2 (55:35):
Everybody was out there fucking the whole rock Death jam.
All the DJs, shout out all the DJs, man, they
the most important people.

Speaker 1 (55:44):
You know, niggas done every DJ. It was there, yo,
every DJ.

Speaker 2 (55:47):
We was doing drops for days out that motherfucker that Yeah,
my j ship was working.

Speaker 1 (55:53):
They had us working fucking these couple of parties. Out
of that I could get in the night. It was
not like me and nothing you did. You did any
of the tours with Wayne? You went on any of
the tours. Yeah, we did a few, so I know
you was in the club turn making up for a
little like, yeah all the nights. Thing't let me in

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young money talk. Getting that work ship was crazy. I
ain't gonna lie.

Speaker 3 (56:19):
I was definitely getting in a lot of time. Nigga
like on their next see what it was. This is
what I'm missed, Like, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (56:29):
The club is to me, I feel like the party
life what it was back in the day. That ship
is dad. Man niggas don't even dance. Girls don't even dance.
No more man niggas in the club just it's just
outfit outfit wars and bought and by the walls.

Speaker 1 (56:45):
That's it. Who flies, who spent that grip.

Speaker 3 (56:48):
I was telling somebody that I'm like, Yo, there's no
like all the socializing. There's no socializing, Like it's no like,
there's no social activity. And the places that's supposed to
be ain't nobody going out like niggas going out to
grill each other and see who gonna say what first
ship instead of saying what up?

Speaker 1 (57:06):
Instead of just in the bottles and the girl before
they break the ice like and.

Speaker 2 (57:12):
Then now the new curve I sing, right, this is
this is the reasons why I'm glad I'm married, because
I be in the club with dogs.

Speaker 1 (57:19):
You know, I mean some of the dogs holler at chicks.
You know.

Speaker 2 (57:22):
Everybody got a phone, So niggas be like, let me
get your number and the girl hitting with the take
my insta. Yeah that's the major new I don't.

Speaker 1 (57:33):
Fuck with you. You're gonna hit me on the GRAM
and I'm gonna block you and I'm never gonna see
you yet. So hey, niggas really be there like yeah,
yeah my instament. I g put it in your phone
people rather now too. Some people come up to you like,
take my grip.

Speaker 2 (57:50):
That's insane. They know those messages is watched, so why
they think they DM and like, yeah, I got Shorty
off DM and all this message just watched red Skin
and then transferred to the barty you sent it to whoever.

Speaker 1 (58:08):
Yo, Niggas is crazy. Don't yo, don't don't yo, don't
let it go down. In the dem Man song was dope.
The DM is sinking ships out here.

Speaker 2 (58:23):
Niggas was selling packs through the DM, getting booked for real.

Speaker 1 (58:28):
Yeah man, now that's the till me.

Speaker 2 (58:32):
I don't care about the vanishing dmor none of that.
None of that shit matter. The ghost mo DM, that
shit don't matter.

Speaker 1 (58:42):
Yo. Remember the nigga on my Space Tom Nigga like
that reading them shits a vanished MO Gosmo. It's him,
But nigga sit there just like it's fucking perfect. He
fucking chi, fucking look look at this, bitch. Let's just
tell our boyfriend, like telling you you notice you're going

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your DM.

Speaker 2 (59:04):
Dang you noticed sometimes you go on your DM and
that should have bring up messages that should be like
from eighty.

Speaker 1 (59:09):
Two weeks ago, like what you why that fuck back up?
I deleted that?

Speaker 2 (59:15):
They remind you you was on some scumback ship, Like yeah,
remember I remember what you did last summer, nigga, that's
Homie sending.

Speaker 1 (59:23):
It back to you just to remind you you a
piece of ship. He see you posting your family or
love you dub Like yeah, alright, look eighty two weeks ago,
there you go. You put a heart on this picture nigga,
this is what you was on that shit be crazy.

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I look at me like, what the fuck? Yeah, I'm
telling you that should have set up bro, bro gotta
be careful. Yeah, man, sh it is different, Yo.

Speaker 2 (01:00:00):
So yo, is it any you got any young artists
under your under your wing that you're trying to sign
start your own you know, regime spark up.

Speaker 3 (01:00:10):
Like I got my bros man, they I want to
call them. They're not young, they're not old either. But
if there the thirties, they young. That's the new young today.

Speaker 1 (01:00:22):
Now these niggas is like pushing fifty.

Speaker 2 (01:00:24):
Oh man, they're in the class with me.

Speaker 1 (01:00:29):
Yeah. Pull out my bros.

Speaker 3 (01:00:30):
Man, my bros, my bro Reese man in the room
right there, that's right, shout out you know dash yeah
yeah bro lansky Ye, shout out the bros man in
the bill.

Speaker 1 (01:00:43):
Not here. You're not here right now, my bro packs,
you're not here right now. You got the squad of
my listen pro my bro. Come on, man, I ain't
gonna forget the wizard.

Speaker 3 (01:00:54):
My bro whispers. Man whispers is like, come on, man
head shout to the yo.

Speaker 2 (01:01:00):
You see that ship in New York, Man, you really
get well they and he probably really do talk mad low.
That's why, yo, the real name is.

Speaker 1 (01:01:09):
What you are?

Speaker 3 (01:01:11):
You and him gonna cook some ship like me knowing
like I feel like y'all cook all of them like
they all.

Speaker 1 (01:01:17):
You're gonna talk, yo, yo cook.

Speaker 2 (01:01:20):
That's one thing I love about the b X and Harlem.
Y'all niggas. Y'all niggas stick together like Brooklyn, we don't
stick together man like man.

Speaker 1 (01:01:33):
It ain't.

Speaker 2 (01:01:33):
It's like niggas say, what up, show love, but niggas
really don't fuck with each other. Like the first thing
my nigga came in here and said was Yo, I
think smoke, this's a crew outside.

Speaker 1 (01:01:49):
And then I call up like you're like, nah, that's
core regards.

Speaker 2 (01:01:52):
Oh they got the same crew, Like you will never
see that in Brooklyn, my nigga, that's not happening. And
just you said, why not that that you see two
niggas with one nigga, they not hanging with the next nigga,
Like you're not gonna see my niggas over there with
j Rue.

Speaker 1 (01:02:11):
The damn joke shout the vibe bro shout and gave.

Speaker 2 (01:02:17):
Me the crazy verse. But like that's one thing is
crazy and.

Speaker 1 (01:02:23):
And yo, this ship too, like you know what, Yo,
don't you do the Yo? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:02:31):
Man, it's an element. It's a certain like with your ship.
It's a certain feeling like Paul is like, it's a
certain like and invokes like you tap into a certain
bag that is like not that ship.

Speaker 2 (01:02:44):
Because I picked music when I really do music that
I like, That's what I do. I picked the music
that I like. I never try to make music like
this or like, you know, this sound is the sound,
so I'm a make this. I always did what I like.

Speaker 1 (01:03:02):
So what's the name? Ship? Not to keep bringing it up?
You should know by now, Yo, you shout out Cooling
drag bro shout Moses Bros.

Speaker 2 (01:03:12):
That's the family, my g But like that record, that
record came about crazy because we was in the studio
shout out my bro cheese.

Speaker 1 (01:03:22):
We was in the studio with Cool.

Speaker 2 (01:03:24):
Dre wasn't even there and Cool played the record and
then went to another record. It wasn't even like a
beat he was trying to play for me. It was
just like came on real quick and yeah, went to
your next and I'm like, no, no.

Speaker 1 (01:03:37):
What was that? And he like, Yo, this this ship.

Speaker 2 (01:03:40):
We was just fucking with you know, it repeats repetitive,
so I'm like playing and.

Speaker 1 (01:03:44):
He played it, and I'm like, that's the one man.

Speaker 2 (01:03:49):
I could say what I need to say on this
my GM that ship it was perfect.

Speaker 1 (01:03:54):
Like I heard that.

Speaker 3 (01:03:55):
I'm like, Yo, because I saw the video. I'm like, Yo,
hold on, this is when I saw the video. Because
I heard the album. I saw the video. I'm like,
I'm like, it is he did the video of this ship.

Speaker 1 (01:04:08):
Appreciate that ship now, I'm telling you, man, like incredible too. Man,
I kept that ship. I probably gotta do a project.
Ain't Jay said the same thing? Man, when because you
know me, I send.

Speaker 2 (01:04:21):
That's one thing, right, Niggas don't know no matter how
old I get, how many records I made, at the
end of the day, after every record I make, I
still send to Hope.

Speaker 1 (01:04:33):
Hey. That's because but I'm in it.

Speaker 2 (01:04:36):
I'm gonna keep it one thousand. He shipps on me
every time, every.

Speaker 1 (01:04:41):
Time because he knows that he is. He got a
different this. Ain't it you bugging while you rapping this
ship trash? Yo? You're flooding up. Yo.

Speaker 2 (01:04:49):
You waste this space in my box in my email pause.
You waste this space in my email with this, Yo,
you're taking up space.

Speaker 1 (01:04:57):
I need real emails coming through you, Like, hope ship
be like real ship. Like I'd be like, damn, why
send him that joint?

Speaker 2 (01:05:04):
But like every joint on this project, that nigga was
really like.

Speaker 1 (01:05:09):
Now you're on your ship. Brow, you're on your ship.
Bro Noah with yo, yo, who did this one?

Speaker 2 (01:05:16):
Then when I sent them, you should know he said,
if you were smart, you would do a whole project.

Speaker 1 (01:05:26):
Nah.

Speaker 3 (01:05:26):
Look, I ain't gonna When I heard that ship, I'm like,
I don't know who did this one before I even
but then I listened and I heard that.

Speaker 1 (01:05:35):
I heard that because y'a saying in the in the intro, yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:05:39):
He gotta do a project. That ship gotta be like
you gotta do something.

Speaker 1 (01:05:44):
Definitely, p something. Definitely that ship.

Speaker 3 (01:05:48):
That was it that ship because it it brought me
to the to a time like when I heard that,
it's like his legacy. There is new and it's fire
and it feels like they're crazy and it's also like yo, nah, this.

Speaker 2 (01:06:01):
Is yeah, this is the shit we was rocking. That's
New York, Like this is New York. Like that's what
I was trying to make with this album because I
felt like not that we two down south for we this.
I just feel like New York's sound is very good.
You don't really hear it. The only time I hear
it is when I hear you or I hear you

(01:06:24):
know what I mean, J Mills, I hear fucking my
song spit, I hear Benny and them. I hear like,
that's it, that's it. But then it's like it's not
enough of that, you know what I mean? Like if
I go down the list, it's only about the probably
about six of y'all that's really still doing New York music,
smoke all, you know what I mean a lot of
people just doing variety music where whatever stick sticks, fucking

(01:06:49):
we go throw everything against the wall, fucking whatever stick.

Speaker 1 (01:06:52):
We running with that sound today. If they like this,
fuck it, I'm with that.

Speaker 2 (01:06:56):
And me I felt like I didn't want our sound
to get lost in the art bro because I beat
our style. We influenced a lot of what's going on.
G All this shit you hear what's going on? That
shit is just New York sped up or slow down,
you know what I mean, real talk, it's just New

(01:07:17):
York sped up or slow down. So I wanted to
get back to that and what made Bleak bleak and
what made me fall.

Speaker 1 (01:07:22):
In love with hip hop.

Speaker 2 (01:07:24):
That's why even when Nori told me do this show,
I was telling him, Yo, Bro, I ain't no fucking journalists.

Speaker 1 (01:07:30):
I don't want to interview niggas.

Speaker 2 (01:07:32):
And he like, you're not interviewing niggas, You're talking to
your brothers, And then the light went on. I'm like, Yo,
you're right. I got a lot of family in this
game that niggas don't know. Is my family that need
his platform because I'm a firm believer. After this interview,

(01:07:53):
watch how many people call you for an interview?

Speaker 1 (01:07:57):
Mark my words.

Speaker 2 (01:07:58):
Because we live in the world where if you're not
up here shitting on Wang or shitting on Drake, niggas
don't want to talk to you. You ain't got beef
with your pops. They don't want to fucking hear it.
They need some type of controversy shit to go viral.
You know what I'm saying. But I wanted to show niggas.

(01:08:20):
It's niggas more important than that, bro. Our culture is
more important than just to yo. We don't fuck with
each other or fuck this nigga shit like we too
important man, like you got guys like yourself. That's one
of the illest, dopest spittters out of New York City,
out of our era, our culture.

Speaker 1 (01:08:39):
And people don't know your story, Bro. They only hear
you on music. They never like. I never like. If
I want to.

Speaker 2 (01:08:46):
Sit there and be like, damn, what make Corey Gunns
Corey Guns, we cannot go and find that out. I
gotta listen to your music because if I go watch
your interview, niggas is asking you bullshit about yo.

Speaker 1 (01:08:58):
You fuck with this nigga? Yo? How was the competition
with this guy? Yeah, And that's not what this is about.

Speaker 2 (01:09:05):
This is about to tell with who you are so
niggas can know why they fuck with you, and those
who don't know need to know why they don't so
they need to fuck with you.

Speaker 1 (01:09:15):
You feel me. I appreciate that, and that's what I
did this.

Speaker 3 (01:09:19):
Shit for my niggas, And I said respected you know,
I'm I'm a fan firs.

Speaker 2 (01:09:24):
We family, my g we fam we fam like I
want to see all my niggas win. It's enough money, enough, limelight,
enough everything in this game for everybody, bro And like,
like even the shit I like you said I told
you back in the day about real estate, like that
shit still apply to this day, man Like, and right now,

(01:09:45):
this is the best.

Speaker 1 (01:09:46):
Time to get involved in any kind of business. When
people when people tighten their money up and they tighten
their pockets, they feel like, yo, it's slow outside.

Speaker 2 (01:09:55):
That's when you go grab all the business cause niggas
want to sell for cheap. Now when they feel like
it's booming, gotta that's when you when everybody outside like yo,
it's lee outside. When you sit there and be like,
let me chill out, just let everybody blow their bread,
because when everybody's slow, they're gonna be selling me everything bikes, chains, cars,

(01:10:16):
watches because now they fucked up. Remember that come up
on a nice little row Ski. He paid fifty, but
you got it for thirty because he fucked up.

Speaker 1 (01:10:30):
You know what I mean. Shit happens. Me got the weather,
the storm world up, my nigga. Man.

Speaker 2 (01:10:40):
But I definitely want to appreciate you pulling up. If
it's anything you want to say, you want the people
to know about you, where they could find you anything new,
whether what you got going what's the move.

Speaker 1 (01:10:52):
Let it be known, my brother. I want to thank
you first, my brother.

Speaker 3 (01:10:56):
Man, keep doing what you're doing, and keep inspiring and
keep doing what you're doing.

Speaker 1 (01:11:00):
Bro.

Speaker 3 (01:11:00):
Like, like I said, I held all those words so
like your voice is like important, Like even things you're
probably saying that you think going niggas is holding on them.

Speaker 1 (01:11:12):
You know what I'm saying. So to the words, I
appreciate that. Bro.

Speaker 3 (01:11:16):
Militia, Man, it's right, Militia is pulling up shout the
young money.

Speaker 1 (01:11:22):
Were cooking. I got some new stuff dropping on. Bro.

Speaker 3 (01:11:26):
When I say bro, I mean Wayne, I got new ship.
I'm dropping with the team. My man Reese, my man Gosh.

Speaker 2 (01:11:35):
Smokes Corry Gun's crew shot shout trading they traded.

Speaker 1 (01:11:41):
Start as y'all.

Speaker 3 (01:11:43):
This is supposed to do some ship to him chopping
with you about it too, Man, you know what I'm
talking about When he says, all right.

Speaker 1 (01:11:50):
No, definitely know I'm here. So yeah, we're cooking.

Speaker 2 (01:11:54):
Man, I'm here, Bro, anytime I got to step in
the kitchen, my niggaiate you. I got the Brits still
ready with the Italian on it ready, you know what
I mean, got new recipes let's get it.

Speaker 1 (01:12:09):
I know you already know man, you my brother for life.
It's militia forever.

Speaker 2 (01:12:13):
Man.

Speaker 1 (01:12:14):
You always a rock boy, my ge, you young money
with you for life, a rock boy.

Speaker 2 (01:12:21):
So niggas better remember that and watch your steps and
tread lightly. And if you don't know, man, Corey Gun
is better than your father, your step pops, your baby father,
and your boyfriend combined.

Speaker 1 (01:12:35):
Trust me, I told you so. Rock solid nigga. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:12:44):
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Speaker 1 (01:12:56):
You see anybody fraud in flagging