Dave East & Young Chris | ROC Solid w/ Memphis Bleek

Drink Champs Network Presents: ROC Solid with Memphis Bleek.

This week on ROC Solid, we tappin’ in with none other than Dave East & Young Chris —  A powerful episode that blends generations of East Coast greatness. Bringing that Harlem energy fans have been waiting for, Dave keeps it all the way real about the grind that took him from hoop dreams to hip hop stardom, and how linking with Nas and Mass Appeal changed the trajectory of his career. 

East breaks down the pressure of representing New York, the importance of staying authentic in an industry full of gimmicks, and why storytelling is his superpower.

He speaks on his evolution—from “Black Rose” to “Survival” to his newest ventures—and how acting in Wu-Tang: An American Saga opened new doors while proving he’s more than just a rapper. Dave also opens up about fatherhood, losses he’s endured, and how pain fuels his pen. 

Young Chris shares classic Roc-A-Fella stories, how State Property shifted the culture, and the lessons he learned directly from Jay-Z. Dave East speaks on being inspired by that era, how those blueprints shaped his style, and the respect he has for the pioneers who came before him.

From Harlem to Philly, these two lyricists break down the art of bars, the importance of legacy, and what it really takes to survive in the game. Two generations, one mission—carry the torch and keep the culture alive. This is East Coast royalty in conversation at its finest.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
What up, y'all? This is your main man, Memphis Bleak
right here.

Speaker 2 (00:02):
Welcome the Rock Solid, a production of iHeart Radio and
the Black Effect Network in partnership with my guys over
at Drink Champs.

Speaker 1 (00:12):
Big with the year Memphis. I'm back at it, niggas.
Notice the difference, just pron present, no stones. Yeah, y'all
you already know what it is.

Speaker 2 (00:23):
Back with another motherfucking exclusive of Rock Solid. Like I
always tell you when it's going down, it's only two
type of people that represent the show, either you from
the rock or you Solid. And these two brothers right here,
it's both one from the rock, but they both silid.
I got my guy Dave East and Young Chris and
the motherfucking building.

Speaker 1 (00:45):
You know what it is. What's up, my guys? My
brother gun g Yo Gun had a mission getting here. Man.
I'm glad you made it safe. You know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (00:57):
My gee got pulled over me like bleak yo, yeah,
he taking your bleak. They don't be fucking with you
with the weed no more. I'm like, yeah, damn, my man,
while my man threw his butter.

Speaker 1 (01:09):
He yoed you lie swim Dan Dogg is legal?

Speaker 2 (01:13):
He yeah, yeah yeah wid yeah, go to the next
on your word out yo, East, what's something like?

Speaker 1 (01:21):
G I see you got the album dropping.

Speaker 2 (01:23):
Ten fifteen before ten fifteen, twenty five.

Speaker 1 (01:28):
Congrats my brother, yo. So what what what they could
expect on this one? Man?

Speaker 3 (01:33):
Me man like without the without the influence of the outside. Yeah,
you know what I mean. Yeah, it's my first indie project.
Yeah me, I really I feel like I was able
to sit and take my time with this joint.

Speaker 1 (01:48):
You know what I mean. I ain't I ain't had
to rush it. Yeah, you know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (01:50):
I was able to put out other projects in the
meantime of still cooking this one.

Speaker 1 (01:55):
And right, So anybody, specially your work with producer wise.

Speaker 3 (01:59):
I'm on head the home team, definitely home team, budding grands,
Mike and Keys, Michael Keys, the family, he got that schmoke.
Locked in with them. It's it's a lot of different
some new producers. I worked with Nick craven h he
from Canada. He got he got that that soulful.

Speaker 1 (02:22):
Shout out the new new producer, new blood.

Speaker 3 (02:25):
I got new producers and and like they one you
know what I mean, A producers I've been locked in with.

Speaker 2 (02:30):
So yeah, but y'all just dropped fine dying too. Man
going crazy crazy.

Speaker 1 (02:37):
On up yo.

Speaker 2 (02:39):
Like y'all, niggas both is individual assassins when they come
down to spit.

Speaker 1 (02:46):
How was it going in the booth together? Was what?

Speaker 2 (02:50):
Did y'all do a lot of songs together? Or was
y'all sending the verses? The majority was together together?

Speaker 3 (02:55):
You might have might have said maybe one or two
joints everything else. He was in the booth together.

Speaker 1 (03:02):
Keep it real, who yagga was just trying to murk
each other. I ain't gonna lie I was but that.
But so it was like damn, I got the I
got the up it.

Speaker 4 (03:15):
That's the mindset every time it's friendly competition.

Speaker 1 (03:18):
But one thing I said about bro, this nigga had
a good pace. Yeah yeah, yeah yeah his pace is
different than that bitch.

Speaker 2 (03:25):
So yo ya niggas definitely definitely gave him ball for
ball for ball is the death on that one.

Speaker 4 (03:32):
Poblo guns with the better the bars, you know.

Speaker 1 (03:36):
You know what I'm saying, Man's the bar and always
not the country.

Speaker 3 (03:40):
Big I told see I was, I am a fan
of y'all early on you up to that, so to
be able to spark with the nigga I was. I
was like, all right, let's get let's get it.

Speaker 1 (03:55):
Gun.

Speaker 2 (03:56):
The only one from the rock that's really a cheetah
though nobody don't know that. He came in young, so
he's still younger.

Speaker 1 (04:05):
Like these old niggas, get out here. You the only
one he's not in the club like, ain't car ain't
that's facts, man, that's dope.

Speaker 2 (04:21):
Man. I'm glad to see, you know, two artists working together,
because you don't really get to see that no more.

Speaker 1 (04:26):
Man.

Speaker 2 (04:26):
You know a lot of these artists they make album
years lay without no ego that then they make album
years later when it's when it's over y'all still in
the prime of your career, where y'all still putting it down.

Speaker 1 (04:39):
Man, you know what I'm saying. So what's that even? Like? Man, Like,
do you feel like you accomplish what you needed to? Yes?

Speaker 4 (04:46):
See, I ain't done. I'm just getting started, that's right,
you know what I'm saying. So for me, it's a
blessing in itself. We're talking twenty three years later, twenty.

Speaker 1 (04:54):
Three years later that niggas still in his thirties, y'all.
That nigga cheated y'all you know upstairs every day.

Speaker 4 (05:02):
I don't take it for granted, you know what I'm saying.
But one thing I do, I always work. Man, I
never got off my bike. Even when they haven't.

Speaker 1 (05:08):
Heard me mainstream, I was delivering. That's right.

Speaker 4 (05:11):
I got a network series from one through five. I
dropped Politically Incorrect, LL make Bully Last Man Standard Revival, Reintroduction,
I can go on forever.

Speaker 1 (05:21):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (05:22):
You got great bodies of work out there. Niggas wasn't
checking for It's always and my boy.

Speaker 1 (05:30):
Expectations. No disappoint ship with man Riders. Just drop clo.
You know what I say. See to that, you can't
say niggas wasn't checking for the right.

Speaker 2 (05:38):
People who fuck with you checked for it, you know
what I mean, because I listened to it. I was
on a few of right, you know what I'm saying. Yeah,
for sure, like you definitely put your work and it
was doing your thing. And the link up with East
is crazy because I remember when I first met East
was with Wayne Though.

Speaker 1 (05:55):
Yeah, that's what I mean. That's a rock of Philly rock,
rock fella fucking.

Speaker 2 (06:02):
Originally original, and you know that's who introduced me today
when he first was coming out killing ship doing this thing.
So what was that like even you know, coming in
with the tutelage of a of a nigga who was
who was down with that?

Speaker 3 (06:15):
I got mass stories early on, and you know it
was dope with it. Like like I was saying earlier,
I was a fan of the Rock in which which
y'all put out. So the so the come in the
game with somebody that came from that family from Harlem,
like you know what I mean? Like that was that
was just like an almost had like a cheek code

(06:36):
to knowing how sh it was gonna kind of play out,
how niggas act or just all all of the ship
that come outside of the lights and all that WAYNA
was putting me onto that early he was having them
convos on the train or like before the whips and
all that, like you know what I mean. So wain'n't
really he walked me in this ship. You know what

(06:57):
I'm saying. I always salute went on he walked me.

Speaker 2 (06:59):
In the wain't know what's a pup When he came
through to the rock at first and he left, Yeah,
he was more and when he came in. He took
more to gun from Philly in the city where everybody
know what's from Philly.

Speaker 1 (07:15):
I used to think it. I'm like, wait, now you're
from Hall.

Speaker 2 (07:18):
It was from the city, Nigga, from the east side
of all the fact man ship east you went into
the movies. By g the fucking that's what was that?
That was fire, yeah, man, and I ain't gonna fry.
You killed meth. I think you might have killed meth
better than meth. Shout out Meth. That's my mother, man. Man,

(07:43):
that was I feel like that was one of them
once in a lifetime experiences, Like you know what I'm saying,
I can't redo that, Like that was one of the moments,
Like I'm always appreciative of that.

Speaker 1 (07:53):
Shout the Rizard, you know what I'm saying, the whole
man ray, all of them. Man.

Speaker 2 (08:00):
But I was on set with Rizzard day in, day out,
so there's a big, big shout the riser, you know
what I mean.

Speaker 1 (08:06):
But me, everybody like, I just feel like.

Speaker 3 (08:10):
That was dope because that was like, really my first
I had acted before.

Speaker 1 (08:15):
I was in a movie called Beats with Anthony Anderson.

Speaker 2 (08:21):
You know what I mean, big, big act shout to
set free, sept free, put me in that world, your big,
big shout out.

Speaker 1 (08:27):
To set free.

Speaker 3 (08:28):
But the Wu Tang we did three seasons, so that
was three years of me filming you know what I'm saying,
driving the stat now and five in the morning doing
makeup for two hours because they got to cover all
my tats up and.

Speaker 1 (08:41):
All that, you know what I mean. But I'm around.

Speaker 3 (08:45):
Actors should more and Ashton, people that do movies like
you know what I mean. As I'm on the set,
I'm picking up this from that one and picking up that.
So it just it made it easier for me to
just be more comfortable and room.

Speaker 4 (09:01):
To play characters of people that's gone. I wasn't the
had like myth coaching you through the ship.

Speaker 1 (09:06):
That was crazy.

Speaker 3 (09:08):
And the fact that he kept giving me the like
body and that everything I'm seeing you yes right there.
That's all I really needed was him saying it, because
that's somebody that I'm re enacting, like you said, but
he hed, so Nigga can easily be like I wasn't
moving like.

Speaker 1 (09:25):
That, like all killed that ship, that movie, that show
was fire.

Speaker 2 (09:31):
Then you went in to the motherfucker ads with the
pooma shipped like one thing led in to another.

Speaker 1 (09:37):
Nigga was just modeling what was just doing? Public service?

Speaker 2 (09:42):
Right show That's another thing this nigga Dudo saying ship
become a sex symbol. This nigga he only sixteen, then
the sex symbol. Since then then they linked together. Yeah,

(10:07):
fucking dying yo, So out of like y'all both from
competitive fucking you from Philly bro top spinners in the world,
some of the you know, some of the best boxers
in the world. You out of Harlem, my nigga, that
legacy the follow from Harlem is insane. Do y'all feel
like y'all made y'all mark amongst the legendary marks everybody

(10:33):
else made me from? Like being from Harlem? You know
what I'm saying, Like you got Mace, you got you know,
puff ain't really from Harlem, but he claimed Harlem. You
know what I'm saying. And you got what they did
and what Dip said. Did you know what I'm saying? Though,
you feel like you made your mark?

Speaker 3 (10:49):
You're this generation for the for the you if you
was born in two.

Speaker 1 (10:54):
Thousand, you know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (10:56):
Two thousand and five, like you twenty five. Now, I
feel like that that generation, like everybody who just named
inspired me to my.

Speaker 1 (11:10):
Son to do it.

Speaker 2 (11:10):
He definitely like, Yeah, even a nigga spit had my
man b g out of motherfucking Miami. That nigga like, Nope,
that that's nas guy, that's my guy off the yo.

Speaker 1 (11:22):
You're talking generation. So I definitely felt that way.

Speaker 4 (11:25):
You nigga started back out of Philly still putting on.
I carried it the right way they carrying. Yeah, it's
always wrong for growth.

Speaker 1 (11:34):
That's right. So what's next for you? Gun? You got
any pro made the Tokyo okay ready to you? Why?

Speaker 4 (11:46):
Hey that's about I think that's done ninety yep, Tokyo producer.

Speaker 1 (11:54):
No way? Uh you have being ransom? Yeah, joint with you.

Speaker 4 (12:02):
You know what I'm saying, that ship and I'm talking
about the rapping this shit. I'm talking about mixing a
mask that's in the bank. See you had banker here,
Oh yeah, let it out. Yeah, man, homie cooking on
the monster.

Speaker 1 (12:15):
I'm on that small yeah thing pulling up.

Speaker 2 (12:21):
That's one thing I love about doing this show cause
niggas like bank you know what I'm saying, he don't
know how much I don't think he understood how much
of a legend.

Speaker 1 (12:30):
How much impact he's seen the response.

Speaker 2 (12:34):
On the part, and then he hit me like, yo,
good luck bro. You know sometimes I think God's gotta
be reminded of who they are to remember what they
got in this ship.

Speaker 1 (12:43):
For, you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (12:45):
So I heard you even say that too, where you
was like when you was talking about your album, it
was like, this is this is me. I'm doing this
for me, not for the fans like the outside voices. Right,
That's something I always say me. I can look back
now and say on my career that that's where my

(13:06):
train went off track. Because you know, when you first
start making music, you making music for yourself, like you
ain't making mus you don't even know, no fans even
fuck with you.

Speaker 1 (13:16):
So you do it for yourself, my building, and then
when you get paid, you're.

Speaker 2 (13:20):
Like, hold on these niggas like that, all right, let
me make this, let me do this.

Speaker 1 (13:25):
Then you start making music for the niggas and you
lose your way. So stick to the script, man.

Speaker 2 (13:30):
So for you to say that and to recognize that
this early meet, I recognized it too late, you know
what I'm saying like, that's a blessing, bro, because I
know for a fact just by you saying that there's
some classic material on this.

Speaker 1 (13:44):
Shit, bro, you gotta think about it.

Speaker 2 (13:46):
When I came in this shit bleak, it was twenty fifteen,
This is my tenth year all that hit Ice tenth.

Speaker 1 (13:53):
Year, Yeah for the Ice, I'm for some Champagne tenth
year bleak. Oh yeah.

Speaker 3 (13:58):
I came in with NAS big shot love you bro,
you know what. That's how I got it.

Speaker 1 (14:04):
You feel me Jungle Nas, you know what I mean?
That's major.

Speaker 3 (14:08):
Then I got with Depth, Jim, I want to say
twenty eighteen. Yeah, about eighteen I got with Depth Jen this.
So I always had not even nas per se but
massive pill.

Speaker 2 (14:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (14:22):
I always had a bunch of different not do this
type of song, do that type of song, do this
type of record? You need the girls like you need
this type of song and not knocking, no advice coming in.
But that started to throw me off a little bit
because what I the ship I was making is what
attracted them, attracted them to me.

Speaker 1 (14:43):
That's right, you know what I'm saying. So I thought
about that. I was like, Yo, this ain't I ain't
making a shit. I was made coming in like, don't
fix it, you know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (14:51):
So I think this is the first time I really
was able to get back to that, Like you know,
that's why I told you, That's why I took a decade.

Speaker 1 (14:57):
Like mixtapes, when you do mixtapes, you just that's when
you get right.

Speaker 4 (15:01):
You're just not thinking about the best music.

Speaker 2 (15:04):
You're not thinking about it that's the best music. That's
a fact. Like Ship. I feel like a lot of
artists gave away their best work on mixtapes, absolutely, like
it should be better than the album. Really just don't
know because the album is.

Speaker 3 (15:16):
So uh strategic. You got like, I'll never forget with
def Jam, I'll play my album. It'd be a table
full of people. I'm sitting at the table full of
he might I don't know. Ship might be from Texas.
He might like not knocking where nobody from. But you're
not my world. Not you don't know my world. The

(15:38):
project done? They saying I don't hear a single, but
which one is the single?

Speaker 1 (15:43):
Yeah, I ain't asked you to be to market.

Speaker 3 (15:47):
I'm getting all the passage. Go get this Ship off, man,
that's it. I don't need your opinion. On what the
first listen man.

Speaker 2 (15:56):
Definitely be too much pressure put on the artist, like, yo,
you need this kind of record, you need that kind
of record. To me, it's only two types of records,
good and not good. Like think about it, bro, we
listen to records that we don't even know. I got
a playlist on my phone called Spanish Ship.

Speaker 1 (16:14):
I don't know nothing Spanish. I only know the curse
word fire off fires. Tell me these niggas ain't killing ship.

Speaker 2 (16:23):
I know fies and I know this vibe is listen
fact hit.

Speaker 4 (16:29):
They'll pick him every time we all be wealthy. You
gotta let the fans choose.

Speaker 3 (16:33):
It is, because it'll be the song that the ain't
jacketing at the world love Yeah, Yeah, And then it's
like you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (16:40):
So that's for artists out there. Don't make your art, bro,
you know what I'm saying. Don't really let nobody distract yourn.

Speaker 4 (16:48):
It's like a lot of records that might have came out.
We might not have liked it when the Ship first hit,
but the dj constantly play They're going to force the
ship on.

Speaker 1 (16:56):
You while you find yourself singing it. You know what
I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (16:58):
That's how that's eighty five percent of music here today.

Speaker 1 (17:03):
The start off like that was control of the masses
when it was all radio. But now we got this internet.
So but it's kind of fair game, especially for new artists.

Speaker 2 (17:12):
One thing I'm gonna bring up, and that leads me,
congratulations to you Dave for getting a billion fucking strings.

Speaker 1 (17:22):
Amazing, Yo, that was heavy.

Speaker 2 (17:26):
But yeah, that work, bro, I super appreciate that world.
My only thing with that is the half a billion
people play your music is fucking amazing, right, But the
money they give you for streaming this business, you feel me,

(17:51):
Like even if it was twenty five center spin, right,
you feel me. But that's my point right to where
I feel like the way the game went for y'all,
they tricked the new the new generation out of the
methods that made our generation rich. Because how we got

(18:13):
rich was radio. Radio produced the publishing checks, you.

Speaker 1 (18:19):
Know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (18:19):
Them spins on the radio matters, Like if you got
a hundred thousand spins on the radio, you can literally
go by a house, you know what I mean. Think
about a billion streams on the Internet. It's like that's
a major feat, but it don't what is it that's.

Speaker 1 (18:37):
What I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (18:39):
I was like, oh, that sound good might get a
plaque of soe what I want the new generation and
people to realize, Man, get back the radio, bro, don't
don't give up on radio.

Speaker 1 (18:53):
Don't give up on the DJ. The DJ is very important. Bro.

Speaker 2 (18:57):
It's like it's like, yeah, NBA players know how to
play the game, but you still need the coach. You
still need the assistant coach, you still need the conditioning coaches.

Speaker 1 (19:06):
You know what I mean? Like the DJs is that important? Bro?

Speaker 2 (19:10):
And I feel like a lot of people, yes, just
like forget about them and feel like, Yo, they chase
the playlist where the playlists bring you pop popularity, but
they don't bring you that paper.

Speaker 1 (19:22):
DJ enough I said all the time, salute DJ enough.
You heard us. That's that's the That's the one thing.

Speaker 2 (19:32):
Young niggas he got, he crept back in. He ain't
really a young nigga. He's just a young nigga. About
default with y'all niggas, Yo, y'all get the modeling that Brodie.
The companies, Mountain Dude, sprites, PEPSI fucking all these companies
just flooding. They was not fucking with us back in

(19:54):
the day, like you rapped ill, how'd your purse?

Speaker 1 (19:57):
Girls?

Speaker 2 (20:00):
Now like that gotta feel amazing man, like y'all pushing
it forward, man, And I commend y'all for that.

Speaker 1 (20:07):
You know what I mean. The brands that I grew
up to, grew up on Spike.

Speaker 3 (20:12):
Got actually got a bag doing something with them McDonald's.

Speaker 1 (20:16):
See all that. That's crazy.

Speaker 4 (20:18):
You know what I got to What.

Speaker 1 (20:26):
You got a bag? Got a McDonald's.

Speaker 2 (20:28):
Only bag I got was the bag of the big back.
What you got the big bag of fast. We used
to go to McDonald's. This ship, I said, oh ship
full circle. That's dope, man. Get the money back for
what they did to push your in them to man

(20:50):
funk that pushing the yeah for the jingle by damn.

Speaker 1 (20:58):
I know that was That's what that's.

Speaker 2 (21:01):
We got to pull the gun out of push you.
I'm a ride for you, but I need PC. They
pushed his credit on that. They made the jingle My
g you got a bag from That's what I'm saying.
Back in the days, ain't no wasn't no brands thinking
about what.

Speaker 1 (21:21):
Even collaping with a rapper. I think we had the
hard knocked life tour rock the mic.

Speaker 2 (21:25):
Now you look at j and them festivals, all the
festivals everybody doing.

Speaker 4 (21:28):
And then we did the Sprite tour. You know where
the world niggas you.

Speaker 1 (21:33):
We ain't even have no sprite in the dressing room
on that tour. She was cool. This is word.

Speaker 2 (21:47):
I think that was the first time just got it
was like, Okay, we ain't here, new gag, new gag.
We ain't back to the ship. But yeah, man fucking
gun man, let me ask you this bro on some
Rocker Feller ship, the break up, I don't think Rockefeller
ever going back Together's just keep it all the way up.

Speaker 1 (22:11):
Yeah, I don't think run back ye up the blizzards
had to put I said, yo, I don't think Rockefeller
ever coming back together. That naship.

Speaker 3 (22:27):
You know, I look at it like I ain't got
nothing to do with it.

Speaker 1 (22:33):
My younger opinion, I feel like, and this just going
with life. Some ship just gotta did what it did,
Gotta go and embrace what it did.

Speaker 3 (22:43):
The next you know, like that time you remember, like
like now when I see all of that coming out
or whatever, and with me, I ain't seen none of
that with when we were sitting watching the state prop
movie or hearing them albums, it was like, that's crue.

Speaker 2 (23:02):
Ship.

Speaker 1 (23:02):
So to grow up and be like all them niggas
really wasn't They might have not really.

Speaker 3 (23:06):
Been like you know what I mean, like I don't
want to see that. I don't even want to click
on the ship.

Speaker 4 (23:10):
And see to get back together. Like over again, you're
talking like niggas money niggas like saying money.

Speaker 2 (23:23):
It's money on the table, millions the table. It's definitely
on the table. So if niggas differences to the side
for that, you know, to that was leading to, do
you ever think it's a possibility state property we're doing
with all that's going on with the prop. See, we

(23:45):
all fucked up? Man, I think that s all fucked
up now. This is that ship Puff was saying, no
big album, all.

Speaker 5 (23:51):
Fucked up now. I don't even know what he was
talking about this, but I get it. It's all fucked
up now. Ship crazy guys, get the young money.

Speaker 2 (24:04):
Fuck this old see him outside. That's right, you know
what I'm saying. Dave he modeling.

Speaker 1 (24:11):
Ship up. It's still out here. Sniper, he's fine, he says,
sniping no more, he said he sniper. He put his
right for right up, I put that up. This sniper
is old man, yo, yo cool, but it's still snipe right.

Speaker 2 (24:35):
Let's let's let's get into this fucking that that gun.

Speaker 1 (24:40):
Cheating he had old sniper and new sniper. I gotta
get out the gas generation. Yeah, he's a he's the
DC sniper. He was, yo.

Speaker 2 (24:57):
Because back in the days she said that, you was like,
yo crazy, y'all niggas had the eerror before the cameras,
before the yeah, before they catch you in the bed
sleep and they hit you with the picture.

Speaker 1 (25:08):
Like none of that, like it was none of that.
Anything was back then. Word of mouth. I got older
cousins and that was a T shirt or something. You
had to be there.

Speaker 2 (25:20):
If you if you too many miles away, that word
of mouth ain't even making it, yo, you know who.

Speaker 1 (25:25):
I always said.

Speaker 2 (25:27):
I'm not going to say they single handedly did it,
but they played the major part.

Speaker 1 (25:33):
In fucking the game up.

Speaker 2 (25:35):
The unit unit. When they made the song Groupie love
give Me Give Me, that was a smack. They really
did everything about it because.

Speaker 1 (25:47):
The bit just starts saying, I ain't no groopie.

Speaker 2 (25:49):
When that song dropped, that's when you you didn't hear
that before that record gun.

Speaker 1 (25:55):
Was still bro We used to call a bit of
skis Like what's that? They were like ship beautiful black woman.
She was like, yeah, I'm was ski up you thinking
about it? The dog town? Yeah, but that was my coach.

Speaker 2 (26:10):
That was west side, the west But think about it.
That's why that's why I but think about it. You
meet a West Coacht girl, they automatically know you ain't ship.
They automatically know, like, just have some funny. These niggas
ain't ship anyway they treating That's like the niggas talking
out there on the west side. East Coach was different.

(26:34):
East Coach was different. The girls really thought you loved them.
They was down with the it's my But then niggas
fucked it up when it just start saying, ain't no groopie.
Now they think back then, wasn't no uber, no uber eat?

Speaker 1 (26:51):
So if you ain't stopping getting nothing.

Speaker 2 (26:55):
Yeah, before you get to the hotel, it is basically
was eating yard.

Speaker 1 (26:59):
Me must have patched yo.

Speaker 2 (27:01):
Put it this way, that half an a joint today
that that that that like that getting the uber would
would have not gotten a yellow cat, no yellow call
a cab but not back then.

Speaker 1 (27:13):
We used to.

Speaker 2 (27:13):
It was more expensive because we staffed to call car
service for you. If you wanted to move a joint
back in the day.

Speaker 1 (27:19):
You had to call car service. And that was that.
We had car service in the projects. You used to
call it black truck we had today. Ship is bad man.
Like the girls.

Speaker 2 (27:34):
Yo, listen, this is why y'all young niggas getting so
much money. I guess all the bottle, the deals and
all this because the girls wanted to eat.

Speaker 1 (27:42):
They won't go to Capital.

Speaker 2 (27:43):
Grill fleet greedy man, they won't go to steak forty eight.

Speaker 1 (27:56):
You know what I mean? Got yo?

Speaker 2 (27:58):
Sure, y'all young they is as ball as the ball,
this is yo. The most we used to do was
cheesecake factory. Just that was like sort, That's what I'm saying.
But that was like elite back then. I know, Philip

(28:22):
Fridays the jack damn you you got enjoy a jack
Damn you shrip or.

Speaker 1 (28:28):
Steak chicken fingers.

Speaker 2 (28:34):
Some Boston balket. You was that guy. None of that
should have worked today. That's why I got out the game.

Speaker 1 (28:44):
That might not know what the fun that is used
to be paying you.

Speaker 2 (28:54):
Yo, Boston was that ship. That's what I'm saying. I
couldn't even compete with a girl today. Like if I
just met a girl and be like, Yo, let's go
on the date, and she like, yeah, I want to
go to Ruth.

Speaker 1 (29:08):
Like what the roof of my projects?

Speaker 6 (29:11):
Not talking about Ruth print Yeah, Chris, We're gonna go
to Chris first date.

Speaker 2 (29:22):
We're gonna go to see Ruth about.

Speaker 1 (29:37):
Got it? Yo.

Speaker 2 (29:38):
That's why I'm like, damn man, today it's different man,
like and my bugget or what's up?

Speaker 1 (29:45):
Wow? Scammers man? Scammers? Oh man, I think the scammers
did it.

Speaker 2 (29:52):
But think about that. If you take a joint now
in the peace stam I imagine being a scammer. You
take a joint out of your peace stole hit. Gotta
gotta run out of there immediately, the bathroom, Yo, that's
what they gotta need, the joint right getting. I gotta pee.

(30:19):
This piece ain't hit. I'm going to the bathroom, y'all.
Y'all scammers. And the grammar. The gram is bad, man, bro,
the gram is bad.

Speaker 1 (30:29):
I think it's a given the courage world.

Speaker 3 (30:31):
I agree with why you say that, because I feel
like you could you could literally you can have your talent,
you know what I mean, and and don't have no
connections to nothing. But you get you know, upload your
ship on internet, put it on the ground, keep you
know what I mean, create a following from that. It's
to the point where, like you don't even gotta really
be talented. You could just keep doing the same dumb

(30:54):
ship over and over and you're gonna get viewers, you know.

Speaker 1 (30:57):
What I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (30:59):
So I think in that space of getting whatever whatever
you think your talent is, getting it out to the world,
I think.

Speaker 1 (31:05):
It's a good look. No, no, that's a fact. I think.

Speaker 2 (31:08):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (31:09):
The curse of it is.

Speaker 3 (31:13):
Everybody is too familiar with everybody, so like like back
in the day, you couldn't you couldn't fucking DM bro.

Speaker 1 (31:21):
I get mad dms from people. It's real ship. And
I'm not knocking to people.

Speaker 3 (31:25):
I'm not gonna say nobody name, but I actually get
d MS from people that's telling me, yo, I'm about
to get evicted.

Speaker 1 (31:32):
And these are people I don't know.

Speaker 3 (31:34):
It's not family's a complete stranger.

Speaker 1 (31:40):
So I had I'm telling my girl, I'm like, Yo,
what make up person? They like? Yo, they're shooting They
shot you might be one of the people that say,
all right.

Speaker 2 (31:46):
Better fucking I got you, you know, but I get
DMS that saying I'm being evicted. It's me and my
eight month baby. The dad is in jail. I'm being
put out of it. Could you send me. I'm like,
y'all never got like back in the like you could
never just hit hole.

Speaker 1 (32:04):
You couldn't just hits. You couldn't hit these dmax You
couldn't hit these people up. They through a message. No, no,
no fan clubs. We used to get the letters. Yeah,
the message is like you seriously hit me, just the
like the access. Motherfucker's got access to different.

Speaker 2 (32:21):
Man, you know what I'm saying, wear your wear your
outfice more back then, Like, you know what I mean,
that's a fact.

Speaker 1 (32:31):
You can wear that a few times yo. You know
what I mean.

Speaker 2 (32:34):
Now, don't post it, yo, don't get caught in the
picture on the grim with it. Get it between the
in this fucking part. Oh, I don't got a closet
no more. My ship is crickets right now. It's like,
oh ship, I wore.

Speaker 1 (32:48):
This on the part.

Speaker 2 (32:49):
Damn I post this on the ground ship in your
conscience now you think about it be ship.

Speaker 1 (32:53):
I'd be like, oh, I got these new feats and whatever,
and I'd be like, I had that on the video.
Can't wear that again.

Speaker 2 (33:00):
I'm saying, see what I thought y'all would have changed that,
because that was some whack ship.

Speaker 1 (33:06):
I felt like from our era we wore watch the video.

Speaker 2 (33:09):
If the video ain't dropped yet, I'm wearing it again.
I'm put months between it. I can't go back to
back in the same I put some months. If it's
something that's like stand out, Yeah, yeah, certain.

Speaker 3 (33:21):
Ship, I double up like jeans and should I do
that back to back? I don't care about that, But
certain pieces you know in your mind like yeah.

Speaker 1 (33:29):
I can't do this.

Speaker 3 (33:31):
Nigga's too you know what I mean, especially if Nigga's
talking about it.

Speaker 1 (33:35):
Sweater was crazy.

Speaker 3 (33:36):
You know it's over for that sweaterwa It's old for
that hoodie, that motherucking all that you can do with
a bankroll?

Speaker 1 (33:47):
They talking about fucking weather.

Speaker 2 (33:50):
One thing I commend y'all on, like I said before,
is you know the camaraderie do y'all think? What do
you think being from New York? What do you think
to take to get New York all on the same page,
Like you know what I mean, you think the city
could come together get money.

Speaker 1 (34:07):
Like put it like this.

Speaker 2 (34:09):
I was at a show with jeez one time, right,
shout out young Jeezy, Jezu my dog, and he said
the really shit to me. My nigga was like, yo, bleak.
A lot of niggas don't fuck with each other, but
you know the difference with us in the a He
was like, even if we don't like each other, we'll
come together get that bag after the bag is made
back to fuck you, but we're gonna.

Speaker 1 (34:29):
Get that money.

Speaker 2 (34:30):
We ain't gonna leave the money on the table, right,
And I feel like we need to pick that up.

Speaker 1 (34:35):
And why do you think that's ever possible?

Speaker 2 (34:40):
Mmm?

Speaker 1 (34:42):
Yeah, and no, I think.

Speaker 3 (34:45):
A New York nigga attitude is just different than the
average person. So a lot of times after ego go
getting away nine times out of ten.

Speaker 1 (34:56):
You know what I'm saying. I'm not speaking me personally.

Speaker 3 (34:59):
I don't have no problem working with anybody in New
York City, that's me, But I'm talking about as far
as as a whole, Like I think it takes more
of the top artists in the city to fuck with
the artists that they don't really got a name. I
think it takes more of that because you're gonna even saying,
you go to Atlanta and that's all you hear on

(35:19):
the radio, and you might not know who that artist is,
never heard of them, never seeing them, but they keep playing.
It's hot in Atlanta, that's right. And everybody with it,
you know what I'm saying, all the clubs with it.
The DJs that you come to New York and you
don't hear New York rate like I mean, no knock
to the radios or the DJs, but you're not really
it's like a certain hour you get to hear and

(35:42):
there's certain DJs that play the town, you know what
I mean.

Speaker 2 (35:45):
So I feel like that I think it because you
know what I mean, a lot of the young boys
coming up, they don't fuck with the DJs, like, they
don't go to the parties mingle with the DJs because
they got their own loop.

Speaker 1 (35:57):
They don't feel like they need them. They created their
own loop.

Speaker 3 (35:59):
They got their own parties where it's lit, it's sold
out as pass the line around the corner.

Speaker 2 (36:05):
So now that DJs gotta come to their party, they
to make that connection because you, like I said before,
you need radio man.

Speaker 1 (36:13):
And I feel like there's.

Speaker 2 (36:16):
So much money on the table if niggas want to
be rich like they say, they all like they dream
they are. You only better, You're only stronger together, So
we can't win the war by itself. Same thing in Philly,
My gee, I got so much talent in Philly, and
I always felt like Philly shouldn't have been as difficult
as New York because it's small.

Speaker 1 (36:36):
Small.

Speaker 2 (36:36):
Yeah, you know what I'm saying. New York, we fucked
every borough is probably the sides of Philly. What I'm saying,
real talk. But y'all segregated like New York, you know
what I mean, made it tougher town. You know what
I mean, It's only a select group and get on
out of that. I feel like more chill. I feel

(37:00):
like y'all know state property. Y'all made the biggest impact coming.

Speaker 1 (37:04):
Out of phil and we covered every part of the city.

Speaker 2 (37:08):
Each y'all was from you, each part of the city. Yeah,
like I feel like y'all. That's why everybody that comes
through Philly, they gotta grab one of y'all to come
out on stage.

Speaker 1 (37:20):
You free thing, you know, what I mean. I just
had sparks up here.

Speaker 2 (37:26):
Too, man, And that's what I'm saying. Like, even from
you being from New York, mans, so many fucking spinners
out of New York just to fucking make your impact
that you did, Bro, you gotta feel like yeah, like Bro,
it's since I still ask myself.

Speaker 3 (37:47):
That's sometimes I still don't what I did, the work
I put in, But sometimes I'd be like this, Wow,
niggas nicer than me.

Speaker 1 (37:56):
It's niggas that.

Speaker 3 (37:57):
Never got that light, never got that And I can
still pull up on him in the and they still.

Speaker 1 (38:03):
Got a thousand balls for me on the spot. Some
new ship. Yeah, everything today well not just you know,
I can't just rap no more.

Speaker 2 (38:15):
I feel like I came in just rapping, but I
learned quick getting the gym, making image a certain way
where they seeing you now it's just a rapper, you
know what I mean?

Speaker 3 (38:26):
Like, stop drinking and get off the line, Get off this.
Get I stopped. I got my ship together because I
start peeping. I'm about to be in a light, bro,
I'm about to be Cameras is about to be on me.
I don't want to look up on these cameras that's right.
You know what I'm saying. I never wanted to that
to make a mother fucking judge you in the wrong way.

Speaker 1 (38:50):
I mean it be.

Speaker 3 (38:50):
Somebody that you might be intelligent as a motherfucker. Somebody
see that one ship like that. Niggas a bozo.

Speaker 1 (38:58):
I cuts down for that guy. Wanta be that guning them.
Used to be tripping to come out from with the wash.
Used to be looking at these niggas and.

Speaker 4 (39:10):
We come for city where niggas drinking straight. When I
seen niggas mixing it, that was new to us.

Speaker 1 (39:15):
Like you know what I'm saying. I know, I know
Texas is known for.

Speaker 3 (39:20):
But the first time I see lean in the city
and it was in Little Jaws, it was not mixing.

Speaker 1 (39:26):
That ship was soda. Nothing to the first time I
ever seen it. You feel meo. These niggas used to
be shipped on the tour bus.

Speaker 2 (39:34):
Roused to hate these niggas. We used to go to
the show, go to the after niggas. One of our
niggas function on live.

Speaker 1 (39:44):
Get record, because then your body know it. Get on
the cours.

Speaker 2 (39:49):
These niggas especially c come on chill, M no, not
right now, you know you.

Speaker 1 (40:01):
Bro we had.

Speaker 2 (40:01):
The busier guys used to come fuck with niggas.

Speaker 1 (40:06):
That's all season that you draw, not right down e draw.

Speaker 2 (40:16):
I'm telling you the niggas, Nabby, the only one who
was up with me was free him, Beads and him
in the back of the bus.

Speaker 1 (40:24):
Dad like niggas just filmed scar Face eight. Let she
have a nigga walking zombie. No, that's a fact, bro boy.
I'm glad both of youall niggas you know, was able
to that.

Speaker 2 (40:36):
You know I will lay that's a fact, man, because
these young boys is wilent.

Speaker 1 (40:42):
Nigga's crazy wild. It's the drugs that win so far.

Speaker 2 (40:46):
Man, it's is insane man like no maount like weed
and liquor always been my vice.

Speaker 1 (40:52):
I feel like, ain't no higher than high. I don't
want to sky dive. I won't get higher. I can't
come back. Sometimes you can't come back. That's a fact.

Speaker 2 (41:03):
I ain't gonna say a nigga name, But we had
a nigga.

Speaker 1 (41:06):
Before it was cool. They make the ship cool like that.
That's what I'm saying. That's why nigga start dropping.

Speaker 2 (41:12):
We had a nigga that that what you said, you
get high and can't come back.

Speaker 1 (41:18):
I know a nigga was fucking with you know what
I mean? What was them ships?

Speaker 2 (41:21):
They used to put it on their tongue paws and
I think, don't I don't know what.

Speaker 1 (41:26):
The yeah ship?

Speaker 2 (41:30):
Yeah, something though going on. Nigga was starting chase level.
Fuck the dog chase you. He chased dogs.

Speaker 1 (41:40):
He was a dog all that. I'm telling you. He
never came back bro with.

Speaker 3 (41:47):
The shrooms like before, like and I feel like the
shrooms like the shrooms kind of the effect of acid,
but they don't fry you out.

Speaker 2 (41:58):
You ain't never lose a limb on shrews before, right
because brad Man lost his feet, Nigga being the matrix.
But I've seen some ship off it. I definitely didn't, like,
definitely hallucinated. They had to hard. Not brad Man lost
his feet, Nigga shrews.

Speaker 1 (42:16):
I lost my feet. I got no feet. That's why
I knew that. Yeah, that's why I knew.

Speaker 2 (42:23):
I never take that, like, Yo.

Speaker 1 (42:34):
That wouldn't me. Don't do that together. I ain't saying
you take them off jail. I ain't saying you chill
your word.

Speaker 2 (42:42):
Man.

Speaker 1 (42:42):
It was a bad mister x Era. Yo.

Speaker 2 (42:46):
I never took it, man, Mi the ex era, I
never fun with it. That's what I'm saying. Man, don't
don't say was I.

Speaker 3 (42:52):
Was a younger now, I was a younger when the
X was rocking because outside it was Miley.

Speaker 2 (42:58):
Yeah, but I knew a nigga who took mad acts.
That that nigga study with Stanley. Now, yeah, you can't
talk say a straight sentence. Ship crazy now.

Speaker 1 (43:08):
Pill to me, a pill is never the vibe because
I feel like you can't control do what it do?
Want you take it? Yeah, you can't tell the pill chill.
I'm high, Like stop, you can't. You can't stop it. Yeah,
you can't be like pill. That's enough. That ships still going,
that in motion, that ship doing what it does.

Speaker 2 (43:28):
That's why that ship doing what it doster.

Speaker 1 (43:35):
You can't stop.

Speaker 2 (43:36):
You gotta get by yourself somewhere, like get me out here, bro,
I don't watch Pill whooping it as.

Speaker 1 (43:45):
Whoop pill and whoop mine. Yeah, aything you can stop.

Speaker 3 (43:49):
You can be like all right, I drunk enough, smoked enough,
I can put the blood down.

Speaker 1 (43:53):
That pill is in motion, that ship keep going. That's
your night going on, your dam roller coaster, that whatever
going on you're like, oh, this is still ya.

Speaker 2 (44:04):
Ship was different, man, Ship was different than pills. Has
never been my vice.

Speaker 1 (44:09):
Man. These niggas like I take a talent, I take
a perking fuck your bitch, like I take a perk.
I'm falling asleep on that bench. Robbed me. I took

(44:32):
a perk. Yo, that's the new ship too.

Speaker 2 (44:36):
You gotta be careful with these bitches out here drugging
and robbing niggas.

Speaker 1 (44:41):
I know two victims. Yeah the white yo yo yo yo. Oh,
I wanted to ask you that. God, I heard it.

Speaker 2 (44:49):
I heard it off the back niggas through the way
after you. How you feel being considered the original first
yn Yo? I've seen that video they call you the first,
and I'm gonna tell niggas whoever post that video five, Yeah,
you are so bullshit because coming only bleak though, that

(45:14):
was Yeah, that was that was reckless bleak.

Speaker 1 (45:17):
Not standing on that. You're not the original, you not,
that's the same ship.

Speaker 2 (45:21):
I'm a stand on. We was outside. We ain't give
a fuck. But I'm not gonna stand on the message
of that video.

Speaker 3 (45:26):
If they had the yn og Awards and they and
they oh yeah we in there, You're gonna get the
get the win.

Speaker 2 (45:33):
I go get it because I was the youngest nigga
performing in the tunnel, used to be in the skate
key Empire, sixteen years old. Myth bleak is shutting it
down like I think I wasn't even old enough to
be in the tunnel. I'm in there like seventeen, eighteen
years old. Let's get it, you feel me. So we
was outside first, Like, but that video that's circulating, I'm

(45:57):
be honest, true life gass me. Yeah, shout out Lindsey
the kid. Lindsey was outside blogging, so I'm looking at
him like yeah, yeah, yeah, that's how we do it.
Fuck these niggas, nigga fuck So.

Speaker 1 (46:14):
I went crazy Lindsey. It was his fault Hard Knocked
Life tour.

Speaker 2 (46:22):
I was about what eighteen hard knocked Yeah, eighteen on
the nineteen, and that tour was wicked because y'all niggas
had it easy.

Speaker 1 (46:33):
When y'all started coming on tour. You was able to
bring your homemades. You this my man, my man, and
your this that me.

Speaker 2 (46:41):
You only can bring one nigga, bleek. That's why I
ain't got no friends. See this is that talk. This
is the reason why niggas don't fuck with me. Yeah,
from that shit still affect this day today.

Speaker 1 (46:54):
I go to the hood, niggas.

Speaker 2 (46:55):
Like you laughing me, nigga still watch this fuck I
don't fuck with that nigga her me on tour, he
picked me out.

Speaker 1 (47:02):
It was the nineties, yo hot. They really mad like
bring me yo.

Speaker 2 (47:16):
We was jumping out of caves on that tour. See
running from the caves like we was popped. Like this
is what I mean is this is why y'all niggas
gotta thank social media because we didn't have none of that.
You know how we had to go find the weed
on the Hard Knocked Life tour. We had to go
to the mall and look for a nigga who looked

(47:37):
like us, yeah, and then you run down on him
like yo, fare without we out here on tour.

Speaker 1 (47:43):
We need that.

Speaker 2 (47:44):
Just imagine you do that today, nigga clapping you fuck
you mean I got the wi you police bang dad
Now back then, that's how we had to find the weed.
And no bullshit. Literally damn near every nigga ever met
them all and bought weed from still my man to
this day.

Speaker 1 (48:03):
Oh god, Now nigga get twenty d ms before you
get to that city. Yeah, I got it, I got it.
I'm gonna meet you here, meet you, and I got
some smoke. Bro kind of crazy as I feel like
we now it's wave, It's wave. Are they it wasn't.

Speaker 3 (48:24):
I feel like it always was probably man we but
it didn't feel like it was man. We feel like
you can get certain weed from certain you can go
to uptown with the dykman get certain bud.

Speaker 2 (48:32):
I'm gonna tell you. I mean it's because it gave
out so many licenses. You know, I'm in the game now,
so I see what's going on. All the licenses they
gave out from Canada. Fucking uh coloradoody know. Yeah, So
they growing and then in a lot of these cities
and a lot of these states that they growing the weed.

Speaker 1 (48:53):
The price of a pound is so cheap. So once
they feel figure out, hold on. It cost me three
hundred the greatest pound, and I'm selling it for six
hundred dollars and I could sell the same pound for
two thousand in New York. I send all this ship
to New York. So that's what happened.

Speaker 2 (49:09):
How to how the streets is just so flooded with
so much weed from Kentucky everywhere. They don''t even flying
the wheel without it. But now now when I get this, somebody, yeah,
that's a fact.

Speaker 3 (49:21):
Only places I ain't gonna make at nod, gad gay.
When I take my little my vacations and ship, when
I go to the islands and sh like that, I break.
I'm bringing that with you everywhere I go because I
don't really know when I get over.

Speaker 1 (49:34):
It depends on what islands.

Speaker 3 (49:38):
I got you plugged not I I'm beajing like you mean,
I got fair that's out there and all that. But
a lot of times it'd be like, you know what
I mean, I like to bring that gas.

Speaker 1 (49:51):
You get what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (49:51):
I ain't gonna start over if you're going overseas Like me, Bro,
I did so much footwork because I always watch my
crew behind velvet rope, and I used to be like, nah,
I'm going over here, let me see what is really
out like outside. So Bro, don't give a fuck if
you in Africa or Finland, hit me, oh it's there now,

(50:15):
you know global man, Like you know.

Speaker 1 (50:17):
What I mean?

Speaker 2 (50:19):
Like Boogie and Them. He Boogie and Them was in Paris.
They hit my little man. Nigga called me, was like, yo, bleek,
you know somebody here, Yes, I do. I got you,
took care of them. My little man was just in Egypt.
It was like, your bleak, I need a plug. It's like,
I got you that, Nigga said. He came home and said, Yo,
I'm never gonna tell no you the You're the greatest
plug in the world.

Speaker 1 (50:39):
You got Egypt, my nigga, I don't care where you go.
I was in the States. I just called you two
weeks ago. I got you. Now Egypt got it? Yeah,
he was in the oh. Yeah, Like just get past that, Like, yeah,
Egypt is crazy. That's what I'm telling you, bro. Right now,
I don't care where you go.

Speaker 2 (51:00):
I got you broke Finland, Africa, New Zealand.

Speaker 1 (51:07):
Wait, hold on, we're gonna get to that.

Speaker 2 (51:08):
But listen, Finland, Africa, New Zealand. I don't give a
fuck what part of the globe you laying, bro. I
just had family in Santorini.

Speaker 1 (51:18):
She hit me.

Speaker 2 (51:19):
She said, I said, were you at Sint Terini, Greece?
She was like yeah, It's like all right, give me
ten minutes. Got the plug there? Done, listen, Blizzle, he
was everywhere for sure. You know what I'm saying, Blizzle.
It's like I'm to connect, just like y'all was on
the song Casino man.

Speaker 1 (51:34):
Said, the earth is my turf. Yo anywhere, I'm the
plug man.

Speaker 2 (51:38):
But yo, the song Casino, y'all niggas went fucking dumb man.

Speaker 1 (51:41):
How is that? You know? Oh? Yeah, I record, we
was in there together.

Speaker 4 (51:46):
See when we're in there and we'll be cooking about
three at least three.

Speaker 2 (51:50):
So y'all got left over. So from find downa y'all
got left over.

Speaker 1 (51:55):
Everything like that like that, Ye.

Speaker 2 (52:06):
Give him the.

Speaker 1 (52:09):
Definitely got left They got to get.

Speaker 2 (52:11):
The left over whole number were already no a yeah.

Speaker 3 (52:21):
But now Casino, I feel like that's you know, we flipped.
That's that's that's classic classic. Just to even with that beat.

Speaker 1 (52:31):
For me, when when that ship was on and the sip,
it just took you back. It's just nostalgic.

Speaker 4 (52:37):
And that's why even when I came with the verse
almost like the delivery, I was thinking about the record, the.

Speaker 1 (52:44):
Record, yeah yeah, and that's why my delivery like that
ain't in front.

Speaker 2 (52:47):
They tried to steal a z he from Brooklyn nigga
stopped by, Yo, my man, let's bring up my man
b G real quick though, Miami.

Speaker 1 (52:59):
That niggas say, Yo, bleak you interview in nas protege
if you was young like him talking that no ship,
y'all have beat?

Speaker 2 (53:09):
He was yo first, right now, that's some ship.

Speaker 1 (53:15):
I was like at the time.

Speaker 2 (53:18):
Yeah, depending on the year, that might have been like, man,
I ain't doing man, you.

Speaker 1 (53:24):
Know what's crazy?

Speaker 2 (53:24):
Right? I was telling Norri right because NOI was like, Yo,
who you think you want to interview?

Speaker 1 (53:29):
Like who would your dream interview be?

Speaker 2 (53:31):
So I told him, Yo, I would love to sit
down and talk to Nis, right, because I wanted to
ask him, right because one of the little homies from
my projects, my man, the one who called me and
told me your son dissing you on this track, and
that's what made me go at him. So I said
to Norri, Imagine I sit there and I asked the
nigga your son on this record, like, Yo, was you

(53:51):
talking about me? And he like, nah, your whole ship.
I mean I started smoke for nothing talking about you, right, Yeah,
that'd be.

Speaker 1 (54:03):
Some crazy ship nigga.

Speaker 2 (54:04):
That niggas would be like bleep, he made a good
time and hippie, but he fucked up dog.

Speaker 1 (54:11):
Like, So what was that like?

Speaker 2 (54:12):
Like you ever been in the stool like that recognized
getting points from him?

Speaker 1 (54:19):
Man, I feel like with him it was.

Speaker 3 (54:24):
As hype as I was to to to to. I know,
it was real, like oh no, he really fucking with me,
like the way he was and like the vibe we caught,
like the hype went away immediately, like you know what
I mean. I'm like, that's really mind my dog my
nigga right here, you know what I mean? Like the
fans ship kind of went out the way like it
was always there, but it was like how years it

(54:47):
was like, oh nah, funk with this nigga.

Speaker 1 (54:48):
Like you know what I'm saying, solid solid dude. That
was a goat.

Speaker 2 (54:51):
Man, I bought it ain't hard to tell, you know
what I'm saying, Like ship, I was a fan, you
know what I mean? A lot of these you know
what's so crazy? I telling Cam that that it's whacked
that being from the same city. Of course, your music
is all playing on one or two stations, so I'm
forced to hear your music. And when you're getting smoke
with niggas, it's like now, I'm not supposed to like

(55:14):
your music.

Speaker 1 (55:15):
Niggas know they be playing your ship on the love
like this, like nah.

Speaker 2 (55:19):
He can't like yeah, still get busy like God saluted.

Speaker 1 (55:28):
That was hot. You know what I'm saying, cannot.

Speaker 3 (55:31):
Feel like we were saying earlier with the difference with
laying And it's the New York nigga. It's the ego
of a nigga from the town, and like we just
feel like you're from Brooklyn, y'all feel like what it
is Brooklyn is Brooklyn over everything was raised. I feel
like that, like that's that's just a new that's some
New York ship. Bro like Biga and Queen's for the

(55:52):
same way, Bronx for the same Like, I.

Speaker 2 (55:54):
Feel like we just need to put that energy towards
getting that check instead of putting it towards each other.

Speaker 1 (55:59):
The bag.

Speaker 2 (56:00):
It's been there and it's waiting, you know, Like I said,
unity brings checks. Man, You seen Queen Latifa ever since
she made you and I t y out of here,
out of here.

Speaker 1 (56:15):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (56:16):
And you on that same wave like as rapper turning
actor and that's that's dope.

Speaker 1 (56:22):
Man, It's not many of us who survived in that game.
I did what.

Speaker 2 (56:25):
To two rolls and nobody never holloed back like the
bleak out there, pack them up, pack.

Speaker 1 (56:30):
Them up, finishing yo.

Speaker 2 (56:35):
In that movie it was it was my nigga and
finishing ship.

Speaker 1 (56:40):
YoY. They told me I'm gonna die.

Speaker 2 (56:42):
I'm like no, and Yo, I ain't gonna lie. The
ain't never never bring up how beans ratted on me though,
Beings called them people on me like yeah, get that
nigga yo, or ain't put me to because they know
how the toe.

Speaker 1 (57:07):
I said. They killed my son by run down on seat.
No beads, ran down door seeing I was with beds.
That was the muscles.

Speaker 2 (57:16):
Them niggas was like, yeah, get down, get there, get there,
We're gonna get there.

Speaker 1 (57:32):
He threw that ship up the street that she said.

Speaker 3 (57:36):
That like y'all let y'all legends for that though, like
in the hood that should want to oscar in the treasures.

Speaker 1 (57:45):
Crazy class to hell.

Speaker 2 (57:47):
Yeah, every shot in the school that's secret that you
feel what I'm saying, think about it.

Speaker 1 (57:53):
That's so classic that us. My dressing room was in
the school. These niggas were really young. It's like not
want to mathterday. We ain't going to school today. Yo. Right,
that's hard. See that's hard. And all that ship Bro

(58:14):
used to get on like I got to go back
to school, man was on my eyes, but you know
it kept going up.

Speaker 4 (58:21):
Music business man, this ship that my homies where the
Jersey to school?

Speaker 1 (58:25):
Now you want to drop my folks off school? That's
what I mean. Man, Like, just think about it, bro.

Speaker 2 (58:30):
Yeah, just the words you think in your mind that
you put on the paper.

Speaker 1 (58:35):
You was able to make a way to feed your family. Man,
that's a blessing. Man.

Speaker 2 (58:39):
And to continue, like you said, you've been in it
ten years.

Speaker 1 (58:43):
We've been in it twenty three years.

Speaker 2 (58:45):
See like, Bro, just to get one year run just
five years, it's insane.

Speaker 1 (58:53):
I gotta feel like.

Speaker 2 (58:55):
I've seen so many come and go. This is what
I'm saying, Bro. And to still be here, Bro, Like
that's a blessing. People still checking for you, Like you
said you got the joint October, I mean yeah, October
twenty fifth, coming.

Speaker 3 (59:07):
Out, fifteenth Coma fourteen.

Speaker 1 (59:10):
Yeah the fifteenth y'all like Coma Ford We hear man,
you're still moving.

Speaker 2 (59:16):
That's insane, bro, Like I come in y'all man, y'all
the next wave, Ghanna, you really?

Speaker 1 (59:22):
I'm fucking y'all, well, bro, singa cheating one thing with me? Blake,
I ain't. I ain't getting this ship? Oh yeah, oh yeah,
y'all what you're said?

Speaker 3 (59:33):
I was saying, I ain't getting this ship to uh
to to not keep doing what I'm doing, You know
what I mean?

Speaker 1 (59:40):
I ain't.

Speaker 3 (59:40):
I didn't look at it as a I'm gonna do
this ship for five years and get out to it.

Speaker 1 (59:44):
Ain't. No, I ain't never look at it like that,
you know what I mean saying?

Speaker 2 (59:49):
Just for the people to even still be checking because
I think about the niggas that I came in the
game with.

Speaker 1 (59:56):
Excuse me, how many of them still here? Only really kiss?
You know what I mean? Rude's still touring right? Who else?
Anybody else? Background dances, nigga? You feel what I mean?

Speaker 2 (01:00:13):
Like he back there, put your hands behind, we put
your put your hands with I can see.

Speaker 1 (01:00:19):
Hey, they hype it up, pump it up before I
get on stage. You know what I'm saying? Like? Who else?
They not? They not outside no more? Bro? So that's
what I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:00:29):
To have that run and still be here is insane
but Yo, I definitely gotta say, Yo, my man, you
wow out due each you wow. You told niggas highly
bleep they want to speak the whole hogh that mythh man, No,
don't please don't ya. I'm like when I said that,

(01:00:54):
then I was I might have said that a ball.

Speaker 1 (01:00:56):
Say yeah it was a ball. Yeah nigga like you.

Speaker 2 (01:00:59):
Just hopping my ship niggat niggas in my d M
two like your big When I said that, get the
word the hole and I'll be looking at that niggah
like na like I even bring your name up, I
might be kicked out the wind for six months.

Speaker 1 (01:01:18):
Like, no, don't want to hear from you from yo.
Remember I went through that for the last years. Man, Yo,
bro think just want to know bro. Bro.

Speaker 3 (01:01:31):
When I had oh Bro, he don't want to just
not this some time in mind for this song.

Speaker 1 (01:01:37):
He don't want to hear that.

Speaker 2 (01:01:38):
Bro. When I had the Werehouse, I'm not about to
be the middle man. Remember when I had the Wealehouse.

Speaker 1 (01:01:44):
Like where I'm at, I had a lot of artists
under warehouse. And now remember a whole shded on me.

Speaker 2 (01:01:53):
I called him to talk about certain artists and that
nigga was like, Yo, bleak, like Yo, you know, to
you you.

Speaker 1 (01:02:02):
It's regular, this is bro shit. But you know when
you're talking about these niggas this like I'm fucking jay
Z Nigga, Like you know what I do in my day,
I't fucking what about these niggas, Like, Nigga, you fucking
kidding me?

Speaker 2 (01:02:17):
Like I was, like I had to sit there and
really think about it, like this nigga could be on
the phone discussing billion dollar deals, a hundred million dollar deals,
and I'm over here talking about some big stonh this nigga, Like, Nigga,
don't call nigga what levels?

Speaker 1 (01:02:34):
Man? Yes, always levels to ship. That's a fact. So
that's why when you said.

Speaker 2 (01:02:38):
That, it was like, Nah, I don't want him to think, Yo,
he's gonna be calling me about these niggas now, No,
I'm not whole.

Speaker 1 (01:02:45):
I'm only calling you about me. Baby. That ship went
with the rhyme, I ain't gonna finn it's cool niggas.
Niggas it looked like they could high. I ain't behind that.

Speaker 2 (01:02:56):
We just better have that check. I'm gonna tell him whole.
We're gonna do it like we dude, yo. Yeah, yeah,
hold on the phone. Yeah, take him out, bro and them.
You know what I'm saying, drop that bag, get that right? Yeah,
they got that bag.

Speaker 1 (01:03:09):
We could go to We definitely gotta get the dog.
We gotta get it with us.

Speaker 2 (01:03:19):
Niggas want to talk dog and that deposit here goes like, yeah,
what I I'm telling y'all, man, take care of the bros.

Speaker 1 (01:03:26):
Man. Yo. You see the skip wear nigga talk about
he ordered the Jay Voice, order it for the restaurant.
Talk about me.

Speaker 2 (01:03:35):
I want to honey orders the chicken and the lady
was like, I don't believe it's jay Z come in.

Speaker 1 (01:03:39):
He was like, bleak, she ain't going for damn. Why
I'm in the car?

Speaker 2 (01:03:50):
Yo. That ship had me dying by nigga. The game
is crazy. The skits in and thatt Yo. Do y'all
see I just seen you on the with Jim and
the Man shout out gym fab may know my guys. Yeah, man,
how would rap about it? Y'all started one as a unit. Yeah,

(01:04:10):
that's dope.

Speaker 1 (01:04:12):
That's dope.

Speaker 3 (01:04:13):
Man, that's gonna be that's dope. It's for me for
like I feel like I'm you know, I'm the young
and at the the.

Speaker 2 (01:04:18):
Group just just important, you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (01:04:26):
But I'm also to them as well, you know what
I mean.

Speaker 3 (01:04:30):
It's sure this whole ship for me be dope because
like I feel like I'm still the young and still learning,
you know what I mean, and I get to do
different ship. I mean, whether it be the music, whatever
it be, like that's right. I feel like I'm supposed
to be at one thing.

Speaker 2 (01:04:48):
Got one piece of advice, I would say that all
the young guys getting money now, man, please man, invest
your money wisely, please invest, make moves because I never
thought about the game stopping. I never thought about Rockefeller
being over.

Speaker 1 (01:05:05):
So when they.

Speaker 2 (01:05:06):
Pulled the rug from under us, you know the magic trick,
when they pulled the tablecloth and the glasses is still
standing like nothing happened. That's how I felt. When Rockefeller ended.

Speaker 1 (01:05:16):
It was like I didn't feel it shift, but it shifts.

Speaker 2 (01:05:20):
You know what I'm saying. And when it did, I
wasn't prepared. I was, so I always said to myself
a familiar nigga, the next.

Speaker 1 (01:05:29):
Time I get a look out, I'm acquiring.

Speaker 2 (01:05:34):
Businesses all day, because if it ever stopped, you never
want your incomes to stop. So that's my word of
advice is like whatever you love, bro, I don't care
what kind of business it is. And like, don't be
the guy too trying to chase one hundred percent of businesses.
One hundred percent of a business is a fail business.
Anything you own one hundred percent of is not making

(01:05:55):
no money. Like you have to break bread with everybody.
So this injured, you know what I'm saying, Like people
who look down on percent of me shit, give me
one percent. That one percent turned into a billion. That's
a hundred million for me. I'm good, you feel me so.

Speaker 3 (01:06:11):
And I got deal with distresses of having one hundred
percent of it.

Speaker 1 (01:06:14):
And running it like you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (01:06:15):
You don't have to run the business day to day,
but definitely get your portfolio up and invest your money
man like, because y'all y'all making way more money than
we did for a show, bro. Like and my heyday,
top top day, the most I ever got paid for
a show was about thirteen bands. Y'all laugh at that.

(01:06:38):
Y'all ain't just hitting the stage today, niggas. I been
here a getting sixty seventy thousand, Like, huh, nigga, I
take your kids to school tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (01:06:45):
You give me fifty mins you hit the stage.

Speaker 2 (01:06:48):
Don't worry. You got a babysit of them all. Your
wife he could go out. I got it, straight up,
straight up fifty send the kids to the crib. Don't worry.
Disney right down the block.

Speaker 3 (01:07:01):
But you know what, or for that what you're saying,
I wonder what was the shift? Because back then I
felt like you made more money off your album going
platinum whatever.

Speaker 1 (01:07:10):
Not necessarily not to recoup first.

Speaker 2 (01:07:13):
So a lot of niggas went to the studio, was
ordering clicko Christyle.

Speaker 1 (01:07:19):
That came back on that going to Chris Roof.

Speaker 2 (01:07:24):
So all that studio budget was hitting bro like niggas
blew millions. Like I remember looking at a budget the
way Guru looked at me and was like, bleak, you
fucking bugging We gotta finish this in the crib. Ain't
no way we could finish this in baselin. We don't
have no more money, Like you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (01:07:43):
Budgets was way bigger though, yes, we.

Speaker 2 (01:07:46):
Didn't think about the recoupment, you know what I mean.
So when you recouped a lot of people never.

Speaker 4 (01:07:53):
Spent well over one hundred thousand for no Better Love video.

Speaker 2 (01:07:57):
Look just for the video now niggas hopping out with
just the one nigga with the rag on the blacks
and that viral straight like, but niggas used to sit
and wait to watch that video, whether it was Rap City,
whatever it was on. Like they're doing the same thing

(01:08:17):
with you. You know, barble shots and how many niggas
cribs I go to.

Speaker 1 (01:08:21):
They just got rocking all yeah, just rocking all day.
Ship ship. So I hit you one day and told you, like,
you got some ship working ship all day, just rocking.
That's what I'm saying. I see you all.

Speaker 2 (01:08:34):
Over the place, by nigga. You got videos with everybody everywhere, Nigga.
You fucking working. Nigga. Can't say you ain't working und
you got over probably fucking lady.

Speaker 1 (01:08:49):
Word up.

Speaker 3 (01:08:50):
That's the new that's the new ship though. You gotta stand.
I mean the phones, Bro, they on them phones man, so.

Speaker 2 (01:08:57):
And I'm glad you got my bro working because Seeping
a quiet assassin.

Speaker 1 (01:09:01):
He just wasn't seeing been one of my top, my
top for forever. Bro.

Speaker 3 (01:09:07):
And the funny part with me and him, we've been
locked in for years, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (01:09:13):
The chemistry better than that. It was finally like all right,
what we're doing.

Speaker 2 (01:09:18):
He did a lot of work, he just didn't shoot
a lot of videos.

Speaker 1 (01:09:21):
That's a fact.

Speaker 2 (01:09:23):
You dropped a lot of projects and you ain't capitalize
on the videos audience.

Speaker 4 (01:09:29):
Now, as you can see, me and Bro shot majority
of the shooting.

Speaker 1 (01:09:33):
We shooting. That's done because nigga want you know what
I mean? When I learned now Bro.

Speaker 3 (01:09:38):
The youth, the youth is is on these bro like
so they like our age and older.

Speaker 2 (01:09:44):
Is listening to what we're actually saying. Anybody else want
to see something, you know what I mean? They want
to see They want to see what we got on.
You want to see who we are, you know what
I mean?

Speaker 1 (01:09:55):
They want to see the holes in the video.

Speaker 3 (01:09:58):
They want to They just want to see the vibe
watch that.

Speaker 1 (01:10:03):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:10:03):
I mean.

Speaker 3 (01:10:04):
So, you're a fool at this day and age if
you dropping music and you don't got a visual to
follow it, you gotta The visual is just as important
as the audio.

Speaker 2 (01:10:12):
To me, sometimes it's more important, probably more that sometimes
it is because it's a lot of artists today like
you were saying like you like in my day, you
had the people like I heard this both from damn
you know what I mean, God bless both of them.
DMX and Earth got it man, like they both with
two people on it, like you trying to write the

(01:10:33):
best rhyme that nobody gonna remember. They only gonna remember
the hook. So it ain't about being the nicest, you
know what I'm saying. So that's one thing that in
my mind, like bleak fucking just get the verses done, know,
just the hook band get the verse?

Speaker 1 (01:10:49):
Well.

Speaker 4 (01:10:49):
We then set it off and uh Swiss was telling
us like, yo, just do eight bars versus.

Speaker 1 (01:10:55):
It's like any time the hook big, like you always
want to hurry up and get back to that hook,
you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (01:11:00):
Yet Tom up too crazy, that's what they're going to
sing along to producers to work with, like everybody, Yeah,
you got a favorite producer you love.

Speaker 1 (01:11:08):
Working with, like you fair, we would want to work with.

Speaker 3 (01:11:13):
I feel like I worked with the majority of my
favorites besides.

Speaker 2 (01:11:18):
Like Alchemists, get that's crazy, you know it's crazy.

Speaker 3 (01:11:26):
I've wrapped on the Alchemists beat, But I was a
feature somebody else me and we ain't got to sit
together everybody that I got what I got with the
majority of the people I wanted to work with, you.

Speaker 1 (01:11:40):
See, like a maybe like a doctor Dre, yeah, Dre
for sure. For sure, Timbo. I got with Timbo on Survival.
We did a joint. I got to go down there,
came with him. Yeah, that's dope. Swiss was always one
of my favorite producers.

Speaker 2 (01:11:58):
Swiss of course the zi yeah switch to give you
that ship and he coach you through it too.

Speaker 1 (01:12:05):
You ain't leaving Swiss without nothing, for sure.

Speaker 2 (01:12:08):
But that's how y'all got set it off because I
went down there and made like that and Swisch, yo, bro,
it's so crazy like that the song and each verse
which wrote out of sync. The third verse was the
first verse I wrote, you know what I mean, and
the first verse was the last verse I wrote, and
Swiss was like sound first switch and do this one
and do this and then when I said the slow

(01:12:29):
down and this, he like, yo, put that in every verse.

Speaker 1 (01:12:32):
I'm like, ill got you. And that's how we made
the record.

Speaker 2 (01:12:35):
And I remember going to the office because that's when
they was playing their records too.

Speaker 1 (01:12:38):
When dropped out.

Speaker 2 (01:12:39):
But at the same time, and it was like, Yo,
we're looking for a fucking single. I'm like, Yo, Swiss
got that ship. He was like, for real, Like Yo,
go down there right now.

Speaker 1 (01:12:49):
Nigga. Niggas came back with two singles. Sure Swiss Swiss different, different.

Speaker 2 (01:12:53):
Telling you he got that ship. My nigga, that's one
of the best producers.

Speaker 1 (01:12:57):
I like worrying for sure. For sure his energy to
be on beyond the beast switch and sell your corny
beast just by how he moves.

Speaker 3 (01:13:04):
Swiss energy day one on one. I love Swiss swits
to give you some ship. Just sitting there like this,
You're like, that ship gotta be hot.

Speaker 1 (01:13:14):
He's bothering to it.

Speaker 2 (01:13:15):
That ship. You're gonna tell that it gotta be hot.
Like to man, I appreciate y'all coming up, kicking it
with the dog man dying out.

Speaker 1 (01:13:29):
What's coming.

Speaker 3 (01:13:32):
Dropping on the fifteenth, fourth and fourth.

Speaker 2 (01:13:37):
Listen, y'all niggas, man, keep killing, keep getting to that brand, man,
stay healthy, man, family, you know, make sure family good
and keep winning. My guys, man, I love that your
niggas ain't involved with none of this bullshit hate that's
gonna it ain't no room for that man, Man, that
what I learned.

Speaker 1 (01:13:55):
You know what I learned, bro Like.

Speaker 3 (01:13:58):
And no knock that nobody that that that be going
through it out here with the rap ship.

Speaker 1 (01:14:03):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 3 (01:14:03):
But I feel like when you really haven't been through
it before.

Speaker 2 (01:14:08):
Rapt to bring I didn't get I didn't get in.

Speaker 1 (01:14:13):
Niggas. I don't know. I never met that don't ain't grown.
I'm trying to.

Speaker 2 (01:14:20):
Get to it would be trying to say that these
ships the kids up and go and go see the world, bro,
that it used to be on some ship. You know,
I'm a drill, y'all. I'm spending the block right now,
a nigga. I ain't got time to be mad at
you in the Chauff car. That's how I'm spending. And
I'm gonna say what up that anybody outside to the world. Man,

(01:14:43):
Like I said, I appreciate y'all. Keep killing, keep doing
your thing, man, healthy, keep winning, bro manez man my
niggas man right solid man anytime.

Speaker 1 (01:14:59):
Yes, my house is your house.

Speaker 2 (01:15:02):
My door's always open, family man, you know you my
motherfucker brother dog anytime, even if y'all want to come
up here and curse out of baby mama too. You
know what it is, rock solid baby, do say Mafia shit.

(01:15:25):
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Speaker 1 (01:15:37):
You see anybody fraud and flag them